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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Serph Saturday & Sunday Edition

New 3DS game is called "Strange Journey Redux/Deep Strange Journey" further info and trailers:

http://atlus.com/strangejourney/home.html
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/dsj/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXOfSFb2EU [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvLc8kXrz1g [Embed] [Embed]

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut9ekAp2drs [Embed] [Embed]

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
https://pastebin.com/J6ER3Eve

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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>>183546536
DDS love thread?
DDS love thread.
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The divine girl fell.
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>>183547129
more of this
MORE OF THIS
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>>183547129
>look at her panties
>>dance on her
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>>183546536
I can respect this. The edition, that is.
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>>183547129
Amane is nopan.
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Chaos hero is fuckin' nuts
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Digital Devil Ludo
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Is getting the ''will of'' skills in apoc worth it?
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>>183549048
Estoma though
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>>183549048
>nigga done fused with my Lilim

Fuck that guy.
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>>183549048
Haha I got revenge on the guy that bullied me 30 years ago by the way Hero I'm leaving your ass cuz you can't handle my STR.
Fucking nerd.
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What Persona 5 costumes should I get?
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>>183549735
Yeah I pretty much went Law because the Law hero was much more of a bro and I didn't know how to game the alignment system into Neutral
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>>183549048
>people shit on him on this site
>he's pretty cool even if he goes alignment retarded and ditches the team first
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>>183549861
>going with your bro who got brainwashed by lawfaggots
>same guys who nuked and flodded tokyo
>your bro isn't even himself at this point
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>>183549773
Raidou, Catherine and SMTIV look best imo. Although the Raidou one is really only good for Joker.
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>>183550009
He had a sick ass theme though
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>>183549048
>fused with my nekomata in 2 separate runs
gay
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>>183549773
If...'s is the only one you need to be honest. The costumes and theme are the best, too bad the battles don't take long enough to hear all of it even on Hard.
>>183549861
Fuck no, Law Hero became a horrible asshole the moment he accepted to get mindfucked by whatever archangel offered him the choice. Chaos bro broke you out of prison and still considered you a friend even when you kill him in the Law/Neutral routes.
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>>183549393
I think it's better to have Trisagion/Ice Age/Thunder Gods/Deadly Wind instead because smirking
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Why call them both dicks when they're both Ok people in the end?
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>>183547304
>more of this
I fuckin wish there was more.
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>>183550274
Yeah, i asked beacuse i'm about to fuse Amaterasu and since she already has trisagion will of flame won't really be worth it right
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>>183550123
>Fuck no, Law Hero became a horrible asshole the moment he accepted to get mindfucked by whatever archangel offered him the choice.
You're probably right but since I was always Law aligned I never experienced his asshole side. Either way I need to play the game again, it was actually really good all things considered and I never got the other endings
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>>183550396
GODDAMIT WHY

*goes chaos route*
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>>183550448
I mean Trisagion is the only fire spell worth to use
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>>183550123
>brainwashed
>he played the inferior version and hasn't watched the visionary Items
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>>183550939
Give me a rundown on the visionary items.
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>>183547129
*look at her panties*
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>Be chaosfags playing nocturne
>Mantra headquarters fighting tournament was cool
>Chiaki is a likeable character. A weak girls coming to terms with the world going to shit and trying to find the means to thrive in a world of STR
>Transformation is cool
>muh beauty, muh genocide
>Literally uses angels
>Ends up being law disguised as chaos
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>>183553827
Hoy in hell, Lucifag
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HEE
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just like >>183557594 said
truly a ded series
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>>183558179
This
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>>183550037
Jesus christ that underboob.
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Playing through Raidou right now and I have some questions:
Why did Raidou resort to murdering his little sister over such a petty argument? It seemed like such an out of character decision, and even more weird is that the plot point is abandoned as quickly as it came up in the first place.
Also, when is it established that he can talk with cats? The quest to locate Johnnie Walker, the cat killer who plans to make a flute out of cats' souls, in Nakano Ward was similarly out of the blue.
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>>183560074
im too old to understand this, because in the context of megaten itself its dumb as dirt
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What level should my party be for Belial in DeSu ?
With so many dialogues options and not many mandatory battles I cant get the grasp of what level I should be for an upcoming boss.
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>>183562501
You can never be too old or young to call out bad quality memes.
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>>183547129
and then she lost to the cock
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idiot here, what's the meter in the top left corner in nocturne? it says [number]/8

also, is it normal to have to hold r2 to move around while emulating it?
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>>183569508
That's moonphase meter. You'll get to give critical hit to enemies during full moon and basically grant you an extra turn.
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>>183569508
camera controls are bad in nocturne, you have to use triggers to move it around or press circle to re center the camera. the number is the kagutsuchi phase which affects alot of stuff, on full kagutsuchi phase you can perform sacrifice fusion, the special chests give you good stuff and some demons can only be recruited during full phase
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>>183569721
>>183569778
oh okay, thanks.

yeah i can control the camera okay but i can't move the MC unless i constantly hold R2 which is getting tiresome. maybe i screwed up something in the pad config.
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hoy there
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>>183572982
hoy
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>>183572982
I'm not yet ready to kill tayama
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>>183574035
"If you don't want to get your hands dirty, you're a pussy", said Tayama
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>>183575072
Me in the middle.
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where all my chaosbros at?
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>>183575978
too stronk, they killed each other
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>>183574035
such a shame he always dies, i felt real impact when he gets really nervous and tries to stop you in chaos path when you are about to press the button
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HEY! YOU WITH THE PONYTAIL
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THESE ARE DEMONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE
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H-H-HEY!! DON'T BLOW ME OFF KID
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COME ON!! I'M BEGGING YOU
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DON'T DO THIS!!!
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so this place is deadass dead because someone pressed the remote
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BOTHER ME AND YOU'LL BE ALL-I-CAN-BEAT!
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What does /smtg/ think of Simplydad?
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Any hopes of a pc port of smt v?
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>>183580803
We don't even know if it's coming out on the PS4 yet.
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Im on the DeSu mission where you have to stop the soldiers with comps from escaping but this one guy is so slippery, he just darted 8 squares past my Yuzu and Atsuro blockade, also everything having ENDURE doesnt help much.

Any advice ?
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>>183549048
he always fuses with that particular demon every time i play this game
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>>183575072
>based on her new design
into the trash it goes
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>>183580292
Who?
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>>183580292
you should ask peegee that instead
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>>183581463
Ok I figured out how to take care of the soldiers but I got petri-locked by Abbadons that spawned afterwards and just kept attacking me from 3 spaces away.
What am I supposed to do with the portals ? Stand on top of them and kill the reimaining demons ? Because apparently you cant destroy them ...
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How are the novels ?
I only saw that 2/3 books were uploaded, do you need to read all 3 books to get the story or can you only pass with the first 2 ?
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I'm getting real tempted to just cheat all my characters to 99 with max stats in Eternal Punishment just so I can actually finish it and be done with it.

This has got to be one of the worst games I've ever played in my life, how do people play this game? At least Innocent Sin on the PSP was so pitifully easy that I could powerhouse through with the starting Personas while shitposting on /smtg/ or watching anime, in EP I actually have to play the game and it's so painfully slow and awful.

I'm still convinced P2fags are just being contrarian.
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>>183580292
What or who the hell is that?
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>>183588315
P2's gameplay is really garbage. On paper, it's just a regular turn based RPG but the gameplay itself is so repetitive and slow that it just comes out as complete garbage, Granted, people don't play P2 IS/EP for the gameplay anyway except for, of course, contrarians. Story, characters, music and atmosphere are the strong points of P2 IS/EP.
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>>183590510
Why is Lucifer reading a letter addressed to Satan?
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>>183587875
I don't know anything about the 3rd novel but the first 2 are great occult fiction schlock. They're very short so there is really no reason not to read them, but the first novel is especially worth it for how classic Megami Tensei it is.
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>>183590867
SECONDARY SCUM made the comic probably.
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>>183590867
Satan is just showing the letter to Lucifer I'd think. That or what >>183591174 said.
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What was exactly the point of this quest?
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Hassou Tobi or Kanuki Throw
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stupid SMT IV question:

i've beaten ares, david, and the fugitive monkey. mido told me that they were unlocked for fusion, but i can't find them under special fusions nor in the whole compendium.

how is babby formed
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Help me /smtg/ I'm getting kind of burned out of DeSu's combat, and am currently on day 3 on DeSu 2, should I just finish it or drop it and go play SMT I and II which i've felt like I should have ignored the starter guide since the beginning and just gone for?
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>>183596605
ÿou need to get atleast one of the demons required for its fusion before it shows up on the list, just look it up online what demons you need
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>>183596948
Finish what you start.
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>>183596948
The combat is the only thing that should keep you going in DeSu 2. If you're really not enjoying it, just drop it, go play SMT I/II and then go back to DeSu 2.
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>>183597101
Well, it's mostly because I just finished DeSu1 and am playing DeSu2 back to back.
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>>183597301
Then you shouldn't have done that. Take a break from DeSu 2, go play SMT I and then try to get back to DeSu 2 at a later date. No point in forcing yourself to play something you're not enjoying.
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>>183596971
okay, take david for instance:
>chagrin
>apsaras
>naga
i had both chagrin and apsaras once before. do i need to get all three, or do i need to have at least one with me?
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>>183597301
I know that feel, also if you're gonna play SMT 1 and 2, don't do them back to back either, I made that mistake also, and I feel like it ruined alot of my enjoyment of SMT2.
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Don't fucking die on me /smtg/.
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post your best hoys to revive the thread
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>>183602739
>requests hoyposting
>doesn't post a hoy
Denied.
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>>183603510
>a cute Japanese girl will never hold your Mara

Why live?
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I can't believe how irrelevant Raido was. You'd think meeting yourself in an alternate universe would be significant, but it lasts one episode and your entire time there is spent trying to leave. You don't even need to talk to him.
I was waiting for him to at least show up to help during the last boss, but it amounted to fucking nothing.
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Wake up
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How would you feel if V ditches the traditional Law/Chaos/Neutral system like Nocturne did?
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>>183610579
As long as they offer some more attractive choices than Nocturne and don't make one route objectively the best in terms of content like TDE.
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Dont worry bros, SMT V will save mainline


just wait, it'll be our turn to laugh at p5 fags
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>>183610780

To be fair that's because TDE was added later with all the bonus stuff. And even then you can just opt not to go down the last elevator for the Labarnyth and you'll only miss out on the Lucifer fight.

Vanilla Noctune isn't any better in terms of what route does what, unless you pick the eternal vortex ending in which case you don't even get a final boss at all.
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>>183611669
>all those crisp, HD p5 demon models in a proper megaten game
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>>183583386
I did.
This is him
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>>183612234
atlus using their p5 money to create the greatest smt game yet


HOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>183612234
>crisp
Shading doesn't fit smt, hopefully they're properly reworked.
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>>183612234
I honestly just wanted another portable SMT game and PQ2. Guess I'll make do with Deep Strange Journey.
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I've been playing strange journey and it's really good I named the hero Henry Jhonson since is the most american sounding name in my head, Jimenez seems to be good chaos boy but I'm still in Antlia so I can't say too much
Also, how you learn skills in this game?
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>>183613045

We've had enough of those.

We need an actually good looking SMT game like Nocturne or DDS again.
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>>183613535
Guns
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>>183613535
Hero doesn't learn skills. He has access to different guns with elemental properties though.
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>>183613045
Well, the Switch is portable so you're still getting what you want.

Although it's not an actual portable in the sense that you'd play it on a bus or something
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>>183613656
Tfw playing IV after Nocturne felt like a step back in terms of graphics and dungeons.
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>>183613749
and skills
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>>183613656
But I prefer sprites over 3D modules.

>>183613759
Meh, not even SMT is gonna make me spend a cent in that clusterfuck of a console. Maybe later on, but for now I'll pass on a Switch exclusive SMT.
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>>183614073
>clusterfuck of a console
How is it a clusterfuck? Aside from how it deals with online communication.

I can borrow a Switch from a sibling so I'm good.
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Hallelujah is a cutie!
Give me something to draw, I want to practice my drawing, but don't expect quality tho
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>>183614561
Teacher fucker Isamu
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>>183614561
Flynn doing that thing with his nose.
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>>183614561
Dagdad
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>>183614859
>Flynn doing that thing with his nose.
what?
That part when they're delusional because of that demon?
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>>183615830
That's the one.
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>>183614561
Demi-fiend and Chiaki on a date.
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Starting Soul Hackers on the 3DS. Anything I should know beforehand?
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>>183614561
comic strip:
Demifiend being proposed to by gods/deitys , demifiend turns them down.
loud: ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>183587875
the first game is an alternate timeline anyway, takes place after the 2nd book
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>>183616694
Sorry but haven't played nocturne and I don't have enough knowledge to make a comic strip of it ;_;
I really want to play this game but playing it on a emulator with keyboard is really unconfortable, so I'm saving for a ps controller
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>>183616335
Sexy defines her.
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>>183617523
Nanashi going on a date with Toki while Asahi watches, then?
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>>183616335
It's very uncommon, but the game can freeze on you. From what I've read, it's mainly in the frozen warehouse (funnily enough) and/or during a battle animation.

It's only happened to me once in my playthrough, during a Poltergeist ambush in the frozen warehouse iirc. Although my 3DS didn't freeze, it just suddenly shut off when I got hit.
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>>183616335
get undub, english VA is pure trash
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>>183618536
Hitomi sounds hot as fuck in English though
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>>183614561
Hallelujah getting buttfucked
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Played Nocturne during this weekend

Knew only that:
> world of strength
> buffs/debuffs matter
> Matador will shit on me

> game is amazing. I love how fast and dynamic combat is. Plus Fierce Battle is the best battle theme ever.
> Matador being difficult is a meme. I've beaten him on level... dunno, 16-18. Little to no grinding. Picked anti-physical Magatama while my team was anti-force, equally spread both buffs for my team and debuffs for him. Got him in third approach.
> Thor required lots of grinding for me because my whole team had electricity weakness and the only demons with protection were 25+. After that he was pathetically easy.
> When should I do Amala Labirynth? And it is normal that I cannot catch any demons there, right?
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Mainline is as popular as it is now
>scarce quality art
>comfy hoys and discussions
Mainline gets popular
>flood of art (only new game)
>every discussion gets derailed into waifufaggotry (of course only characters from new game)
>newfags running everywhere

How successful you want the new game to be?
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>>183618402
This please, Toki is the best girl and Asahi's reactions are always cute
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>>183620890
>and the only demons with protection were 25+
Take-Minakata.

You didn't even need to grind for Thor, just made sure you didn't have anything weak to Electric. Not sure why you thought it was necessary.
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The only fusable demons with prot-ele required 2-3 levels.
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>>183620890
yeah, it's normal. Just do it when you think you are strong enough, you don't have to do all kalpas at once
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should I play DDS or Raidou games next? I just finished smt4:A
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>>183620932
I just want it to be hard to keep the normies out.
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>>183620932
I don't care how successful it is as long as it's good
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>>183622148
Raidou for comfiness and humor. DDS if you want more of Nocturne's engine and combat.
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>>183614561
draw you killing youself fujoshitter
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Can someone tell me about chink imagine. Is it just all the English content? Or just link me, I guess.
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>>183624405
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>>183625685
kek. what a bitter, vengeful bitch you are.
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Revival hoy
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>>183628453
HOY
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>>183620890
>Matador being difficult is a meme. I've beaten him on level... dunno, 16-18. Little to no grinding. Picked anti-physical Magatama while my team was anti-force, equally spread both buffs for my team and debuffs for him. Got him in third approach.

Matador's hard for people that have never played a SMT before and are thinking in FF terms. Ie spam Attacks, don't buff because in FF they're not worth the trouble don't bother debuffing because bosses are always immune to those things in FF.

If you're aware of SMT/Persona's buff/debuffs and element blocking then yeah he's a cakewalk.
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>>183629757
Not to mention that Nocturne doesn't really tell you how to fight, it expects you to learn via experience.

Compared to Persona, which handholds you and tells you things a fucking 10-year-old would be able to notice.
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>>183575173
>>183575072
>>183575276
Cool
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>>183620890
wait until you get to the true asshole
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>>183614774
>>183614859
>>183615794
>>183616172
>>183618402
I think that those are enough, so I'll get start drawing.

>>183620252
Never draw nsfw but I'll try my best
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>>183632125
>wait until you get to the true asshole
>doesn't post the true asshole

I know this fight is pretty much a meme now, but he really was the hardest part of my first playthrough.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIjVvnO5lgM
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i find the lack of trustworthy people in this thread disturbing
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http://hiro.moo.jp/owariya/basic/story/basic3.htm
Translation WHEN
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>>183620252
No need for that, this artist is a huge hallelujahfag and has drawn a bunch of lewd of him https://pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=12394
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I miss the alignment wars that we used to have
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>>183618402
>>183621264
I second this.
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>>183634461
that was before
>objectively good neutral ending
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>>183634894
>neutralfags
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>>183620890
matador is harder than minotaur atleast
>>183620932

hoy
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>>183635075
>matador is harder than minotaur atleast
I disagree, you can easily prepare for Matador if you know what's coming, but if you happen to get Walter against Minotaur you might as well just reset.
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>>183629068
Why is hoyposting so great?
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>>183635634
this, and it's a hit and miss with buffs against minotaur, one time he kep critting fucking everything despite sakukaja'ing to the brim, and another time he missed fucking everything
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>>183635634
>hoy
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>>183635634
you can do the same for minotaur, just have a team with ice spells and you'll beat him.

matador doesnt even have a weakness and he removes debuffs on himself.
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>>183635634
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>>183635634
>but if you happen to get Walter against Minotaur you might as well just reset.
It takes more effort getting demons (especially with Nocturne's shitty rng negotiations), getting the skills you need, and fusing them than simply just resetting the game.

The fuck kind of comparison is this? Resetting the game takes like 10 seconds at most. The only thing that makes Minotaur difficult is him getting a critical by chance and Smirk your team to death.
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>>183635634
HOY
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>>183636843
HOYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>183637753
H O Y
O
Y
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>>183638225
HOY?
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>>183638321
HOY
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>>183638416
HOY
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I'lL END IT THUS
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AARRGGHHHHHH!!!
IT'S THE HOYPOSTING AGAIN
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>>183638507
HOY
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>>183638626
hoy delete dis
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>>183638694
my hoys are a bit different
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>>183638717
HOY
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>>183638626
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>it's a hoy episode
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>>183638919
>>183638919
BEHOLD MY HOYS
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>>183638876
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>>183638863
HOY
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>>183638919
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>>183638919
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>>183638919
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We must purge this filth from our lands. Defeat these filth and be granted safety in our kingdom.
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>>183638416
>>183638507
>>183639263
These HOYs are getting too abstract for me.
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>>183639482


pathetic

ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>183639482
>it thinks the golden tits have any power agaist the HOY
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>>183639579
OC is too abstract?
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>>183640503
no HOY can be too abstract
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>>183640503
That Hikaru is cute.
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>reminder that this exists
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>>183641697
>Tumblrtale drew inspiration from SMT and probably got more people into the series
Literally nothing wrong here. Stop being such a pessimist, anon.
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>>183641697
disgusting
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>>183641860
>drew inspiration
fucking barely

undertale has the depth of a puddle compared to any megaten
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>>183641697
Delet this
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>>183642363
nothing fazes me anymore
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>>183641860
>got more people into the series
>nothing wrong here
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>>183642807
>doesn't want to sprea the hee-hoos
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>>183642807
>he fell for the "popular things are automatically bad" meme
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>>183643037
>he thinks that it's a meme
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I think I spent ~8-9 hours in this giant piece of shit dungeon today. PLEASE tell me Sea of Flames is better.
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>>183643163
it just gets worse
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>>183643163
and please no "kek" :(
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>>183643118
>unironically judging a game by its popularity and not on how good it is
>being this retarded
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>>183643163
mazurka is the worst part of the entire game
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>>183643337
Popular stuff that's good and not lowest common denominator pandering garbage is rare as fuck and that's just a fact, and deap down you know it fag, keeping something niche keeps it pure
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Should i play the originals SMT? What about MT?
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>>183643578
Yes, and no.
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>>183642363
This was 100% written by one of us
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>>183643552
>this is what hipsters actually believe
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>>183643837
Go back to Persona 5 please. We all know you came to here because of it and we want you to leave now.
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>>183643837
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>>183643980
>>183643981
>le secret club logic
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>>183643980
I'll go back to SMT II and I'll enjoy it for the game being good, not being niche.
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>>183643837
Not him (and I don't entirely agree with him), but there is some truth with the niche stuff.

Compare early Persona with current Persona. Current Persona is more casualised and panders to the lowest common denominator (waifufags, shitty dating sim).
also lol SMT4A
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>>183644120
>glorious bonds ending
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>>183644120
>also lol SMT4A
That horrible bonds route
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Jokes on you if Megaten gets too popular I'll just move on to another niche series.
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>>183644256
>bonds
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>>183644365
Don't go, I'll miss you.
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>>183644413
No you won't.
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>>183643552
>playing niche games because they're "pure"
>not games you made yourself

You guys are all a bunch of fucking casuals.
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>>183644376
>only true choice
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>>183643837
>this is what normies actually believe
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Finishing day 6 on DeSu1 Overclocked. I played the original years back, and while I've forgotten a good deal, I still remember enough of how stuff generally panned out (did lawfag end, chaosfag end, nuked end, and Atsubro end). Probably going to keep my day 6 evening save and go back to it later for the different endings, since I don't have a clue what happens on day 8 for any of the old ends.

Who do I go for first, /smtg/?
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>>183645043
anything but beating the shit out of lucifer is faggotry
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>>183644924
>"i don't like this game because other people like it"
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What spells is a STR-build MC supposed to have in IV:A? Is my setup optimal or is there any key spell I should have
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Is this the shit mega tense general? Do these video games allow me to kill my virtual friends?
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>>183645283
>world of str in IV:A
boy you have much to learn
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>>183645202
please, I can still feel the morningstar's bruises left on my junior high self's ignorant and tender asshole almost 10 years later
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>>183645283
Arrange your skills
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>>183645043
You're making me want to pick up Overclocked again and finish my lawfag run, but then I remember I'm at the bullshit final boss, underleveled and with shitty demons. I definitely need to replay it later on though, since I was playing it blind and let the glasses dude die (Keisuke I think?)

Any tips for the final battle?
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>>183645283
>STR build
>not full lucc
Is this your first megoomi?
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>>183645043

Should probably save Chaos for last since that's probably the biggest extra end and can net you all the party members in the game.

Also the neutral endings have no day 8. Only run away, lawfag and chaosfag.
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>>183645381
Strength is god tier in iV:A
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>>183645381
lawfag detected
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>>183645258
Who are you quoting, normie?
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>>183645283
Manso weón
Phys is shit in IV/A but just fill up your luck and presto
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>>183645960
>normie
Shut the fuck up, riajuu.
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>>183646016
>Phys
>Shit is IV A
Literally the best option
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>>183645943
>implying i joined golden tits
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>>183645526
It's a fun game and the new VA adds to the charm except Midori, holy SHIT she's awful and her voice is starting to make me hate the character. It's literally been at least 7/8 years since I last played endgame so I don't remember the specifics, sorry (just getting raped by Lucifer while jamming out to his sick bgm). What was your build? I went full magic (did it again on Overclocked) and things have always been fine to me. Running into some money problems though since I tend to try fusing demons prioritizing on Anti-skills especially those that would cover up what's otherwise a natural weakness

Also Drain is great

>>183645775
That's super useful, thanks! I'll flip a coin between law and neutral first then, neutral would be a good refresher and both Gin and Atsuro are cool dudes. Gonna save helping onii-chan bitchslap God for the end
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>>183645283
Get rid of Media, you have supporter demons for that.
If you haven't fought Krishna yet (assuming you aren't a dummy who plays on Conflict), that's also the absolute last thing you want on your Nanashi if he gets charmed.

Power Punch, Oni-Kagura, Fang Breaker are pretty good skills at that point. I ran a high luck build and used those at that level.
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>>183647242
DON'T TOOT IT
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>>183647420
FOOL! Trumpeter toots as he pleases!
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>>183646346
Jesus, don't get me started on Midori's VA. I wish I could exclusively undub her voice and keep the others as is. Atsuro's VA in particular is really good. I'm also running a MA build with Drain, but my demons are kind of shit. Well, guess I'll give it a few tries and see what happens
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>>183546628
>wanting the fanbase to filled with cancer so the game becomes shit trying to cater it's tumorous demands
Loook at Danganronpa it sure worked well for them
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>>183643648

Sorry for taking so long to answer. What exactly is bad about MT? I mean the Kyuuyaku update that includes the first and second MT.
I know it is annoying to ask, but i couldn't find much info on how good MT 1 and 2 are, and these games are normally too long, so i would rather avoid playing them completely blind
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>>183648090
1 is OK but repetitive and the mid-game section is painful
2 is good
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>>183648090
I started KMT1 on Friday night and am already at the second to last dungeon. It's been a little painful, but overall I like the game so far.
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>>183641697
Eh.
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>>183648138

Got it, thanks anon. I can deal with repetition, but a painful mid game might be too much for me. I'll definetly make sure to check MT 2 even if i can't force myself through MT 1.

>>183648321

I see, sounds like one of those deeply flawed games that manage to still be good thanks to it's qualities.

Thanks a lot, you two!
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>>183648090
I started playing it like a month ago, and it's so grindy that I can't even enjoy it.
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>>183648537
if you have to grind in MT1 you're doing it completely wrong
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>>183648537
I didn't have to grind at all in KMT, and found myself stupidly overpowered by the time I got to the end-game. Maybe if you're using a guide to go exactly where you need to go instantly, but if you're exploring blindly you shouldn't need to.
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>>183648625
>>183648668
Please enlighten me on the strategies that I'm just not seeing apparently. Nakajima, and Yumiko get chunked for big ass damage by some of the enemies on floor one of Daedalus, and I've bought the armor from the shop already.
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>>183648797
use demons as meat shields for the early game

get weapons that can hit more than once
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>>183648858
I do have the multihitting weapons, but with MAG draining being a thing, is it actually worth it to leave your demons out? I've been painstakingly going through everywhere with those two alone, and it's been a real drag.
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>>183649027
You're going to have more MAG than you can spend until late-game when enemies stop dropping it as frequently. It's there to be spent, not ogled at.
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>>183649027
resource management is a pretty important part of the early game

you can either have a bunch of weak demons that use no MAG to serve as meat shields or have one strong demon that eats up all your MAG
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>>183649178
>>183649180
Alright, I'll get around to trying the game again tonight. Coming straight off the heels of Soul Hackers, the thought of leaving my demons summoned just doesn't feel right.
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>>183648687
That's horrifying. Why would anyone put themselves through such torture?
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>>183648687
>yaso magatsuhi
never fails to give me a tiny giggle
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i just got a Fairy Pixie with Megidolaon in Soul Hackers

any suggest for fusing strong demons? the Metatron w/ Megidolaon guide did fuck all for me at the very end.
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>>183647590
>not letting her die so you never have to hear her again

I will say almost everyone else had god tier dubbing. Yuzu is mediocre though
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>>183652312
>Giving up Black Frost
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>>183620932
So /smtg/ becomes /feg/ pre FEH? Please *record scratch* no
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>>183654786
>thinking that would be bad
have a pity
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>>183654978
Just how big is the overlap with FE and SMT anyways?
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>>183655135
pretty deep if you ask me
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>>183655135
They're confirmed to be in a shared universe.
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>>183655135
if you like one, odds are you'll like the other. source: /feg/got who loves it when lawposting and chaosposting breaks out in that general

>SMTxFE could've been medieval fantasy DeSu
It still kinda hurts
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>>183655135
SMT is the FE of JRPGs
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>>183655135
The fanbase of niche jap games overlap in general, often law and chaos posting make their way to /fgog/ for example. I blame the neutral shilling and muh canon fags who force it for making /smtg/ this barren wasteland, where everyone who disagrees with them must be killed for "balance" and "non-extremism".
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>>183655135
Huge. Smtg regularly shit post fe characters and vice versa. If any external franchise is posted here it's SMT
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>>183655980
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>>183659529
Tsubasa having the best tits in the SMT universe is canon right?
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>>183383818
>crying about sexist designs
>still says it's a good game

One of the more sane folk, I guess...
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>>183659529
>
what smt game is this
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So, is Krishna supposed to be immortal?
Gods can't kill other gods, which is why they had to seal Krishna, but why did he go back to his seal after being sliced by Nanashi? The likes of Odin and Maitreya died after being defeated, and the scene where Krishna is beaten strongly implied he died, but he was just sent back.
Did i miss an explanation?
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Hoy of life
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>>183669281
>no post in an hour
>shit post bump

Let us be free
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCviKitCHE8

IMAGINE 2 when?
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>>183669491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvx4159jsA
NINE 2 when?
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>>183669491
>>183671597
We can only hope soon. I miss having a MEGATEN MMO.
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>>183669491
Hopefully never, I don't like MMOs or online games in general.
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>>183655135
A little bit, but only due to KOWASHITAI and that old promotion they did with SMT4 and Awakening.

I am a Fate fag, and I'd say that overlaps far more. FGO general cannot stop mentioning or talking about SMT.
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>>183671597
>console MMO
>for the original Xbox
>in fucking Japan

NINE was doomed from the very beginning, seriously who thought that was a good idea?
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>>183671935
if ever, the gameplay would need to be better. i couldn't get into imagine, the controls were annoying for some reason.

they could've gone the turn based way as classic megaten. or they could've gone raidou way. instead they went into that strange pseudo mmo frankenstein.
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wat smt is this?
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At least if they would port Imagine ost to the new game
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>>183674227
Cybersluts.

Now stop posting it.
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>>183633174
>1:30
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>>183546536
>[Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
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>>183593728
None. Either options leads to nothing.
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>>183610579
Wait there's another choices in Nocturne?
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>got Law ending on MT II
>also Demon Ending on Nocturne
I'm a failure
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HOY
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>>183676148
damn it I don't wanna make threads any more
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>>183677590
Demon ending in Nocturne is comfy
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>>183678878
world of STR in all it's glory
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>stopped playing smt iv after beating minotaur
>want to get back to it
>afraid i'll get lost because i dont know what to do
should i go further? I literally saved and left right after beating minotaur, didn't move an inch.
Can i somehow teleport back to the first floor of naraku, if i have to go back?
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>>183679282
You know there's a 'Quest' menu option that tells you exactly what to do and where to go right?
>Can i somehow teleport back to the first floor of naraku, if i have to go back?
In the room right after Matador you gain access to a terminal.
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>>183679372
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>>183679372
>In the room right after Matador
I gotta hook up my PS2 for that? A bummer :^)
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>>183679372
*Minotaur
Got Nocturne on the brain
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Revival HOY
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>>183674227
DDS3
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how was smtg back then at 2011?
or some time period where SMT 4 wasn't a thing??

because geez these hoys
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>>183682252
it was a dark and uncomfy place
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>>183682403
just as ded as now huh?
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Has somebody counted all hoys spoken in SMT4?
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>>183683663
there is only so much one hoyposter can do
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How does this image make you feel
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>>183682252
wished Walter wasn't a thing
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>>183684047
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tell me about your SMT bullshit moment
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>>183684163
randomly getting killed by hama or mudo
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>>183684163
not preparing for the fight and having to go all-out on jack frost for him to just mediarama, it took few lucky crits to take this cunt down
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>>183684163
DDS: Ananta spamming Mamudoon on his 7 press turns
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https://twitter.com/BentoBooks/status/884208297506521088
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>inb4 Matador/Minotaur salt
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>>183684456
both are easy and I suck at games like that, so it says something
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>>183684456
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>>183684456
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>>183684163
Those delicious OHKO in smt iv, I was my first megaten game so it was pretty frustrating
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>>183684163
Wasting some much time trying to fuse Astaroth to get Ishtar when I couldn't use either of them because I was Law.
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>>183684163
>SMT4
>getting into encounters in Blasted Tokyo
>The enemy strikes first!
>Macca Beam

Also, it's very annoying how reinforcements group can strike first sometimes, too.
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>>183685814
In SMTII btw
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>>183685814
>lawfag
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>>183648687
THE WHITES WERE RIGHT
I DON'T WANNA TRY TO FIGHT THIS LOVE
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>>183686186
It couldn't be helped. Zayin was based as fuck.
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>>183686493
He reminds me of that
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>>183684163
the Beelzebub fight in Soul Hackers 3DS
>all buffs prepared for Lv75 Sexy Nemissa and MC
>have all the damn end game gear
>nearly kicking the last extra boss' ass
suddenly
>no magical mirrors or a fast demon with Makarakarn
>next turn comes
>he casts Mazionga
>MC gets paralyzed
>second attack is fucking Nice Short
>ded
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wew
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>>183689530
toot machine broke
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>>183682252
A lot more alignment wars and long winded-posts. Very overwhelming for newcomers.
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>>183689530
no fucking way
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>>183689530
B-but Trumpeter toots as he pleases
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>>183690731
does this mean that the true tooter is krishna?
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>>183689530
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Tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tututu tu tu tu tu tu tu tututu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQnqqsVla1o
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Hoy, wake up.
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wake up you lawfaggot
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>/fgog/ has 3 threads up
>2 with 800+ posts
Fuck, and people say mobage isn't cancer.
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>chaosfags don't realize that going neutral would result in their beloved world of strength

why is lucifer dumb
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stop playing a shit series and stick to a better franchise

we got meme skeletons and demons too
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>>183698071
(You)
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>>183698071
I love me some FF too but /ffg/ is just a mobage general at this point. God forbid anyone from talking about actual FF games there.
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>>183698071
In the past I played Crisis Core, XIII and X-2 and dropped them because I found them boring. Not my franchise, but the later games look pretty at least.
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>>183684163
Explored the whole poison/area/dungeon on DDS1, even fought those big monsters that didn't really give that much xp, climbed the ladder, got into a new area, been almost 1 and a half hour since last save, get into fight, 2 Succubus manage to charm my whole team as I slowly have to see them die hoping it'd go away for almost 10 fuckin minutes.
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>>183697384
english version of that shit was released like few weeks ago, so probably they are swimming in newfags
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>>183700006
That is a bizarre(ly stupid) choice of games to play.
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>>183698071
1-10 are amazing games but the series died with XIII. That said, I'll still buy every new mainline FF game because I have hope that they'll recapture that magic someday.
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>>183700286
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>>183692417
>warding shout
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>>183698071
I haven't played a FF since XIII. I bought a PS3 for that game.
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>>183700596
I don't see the meaning of this post.
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>>183700942
the lord speaks in mysterious ways
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>>183700086
english version has general of its own, /fgog/ is just full of nips and weebs
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>>183697590
No it wouldn't
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>naoya persuades me to fight god
>amane persuades me to fight with god
"You can be the king of Bel"
"You're the only one that can do it"
>get my ass handed to me on a hard battle vs Decarabias and Berserkers
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>>183684163
smt4 bubsy
fuck that bastard with a tuning fork
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>>183596605
>>183597653
can /smtg/ please put down the hoys for a moment and help a poor prentice
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Can someone seriously give me one good reason why Musubi isn't the answer to everything?
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>>183701946
for david you need to fuse all three together
i think ares and wu kong are just normal demons of their races
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>>183596605
Some of them are normal fusion demons, for special you need to have at least 1 demon required in compendium
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>>183702061
I can't. It's literally the best reason.
>But you're alone
Then just make some people to not be alone with.
>But you'll get bored
You literally have infinite possibilities to do whatever you please.
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>>183702061
>memesubi
world of locking yourself in your room with your philosophical zombie pals is gonna do a whole lot of good when kagutsuchi comes to kill your self-centered ass
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>>183702061
It makes your existence cheap and pointless because everything that happens to you isn't earned and nothing will ever oppose or challenge you.
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>>183702061
freedom is best way, our world is good enough as it is
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>>183684504
Matador is really dumb if you're new and have no idea how buffs/debuffs work
The worst part for me was him being a surprise fight at the end of a dungeon with no saves nearby and that it was impossible to beat him if you werent prepared
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>>183702712
>surprise fight
>a manakin right in your path all but tells you something up ahead is gonna fuck your ass
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>>183702540
Why do you have to suffer to feel like you earned something? What's the point of life to you?

>>183702663
Do you honestly think that?
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>>183702712
>no saves
>there is village few steps back with a terminal
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>>183702926
Life with no suffering and challenge is no life at all
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>>183703190
I don't really agree with that, living in a dream seems better than any kind of life that you can get in this world
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>>183684351
what smt game is this?
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>>183702135
i can't freeform fuse, nor can i find the bosses in the compendium. how do i unlock the fusion of these fuckers once i've whipped their asses?
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>>183702926
If things are given to you for free, the impact they have on you is greatly lessened. It's like playing with cheat codes. Sure, winning is fun, but the high is much greater if it was an uncertain, hard-fought battle. You'd lose interest in a life like that very quickly because any spontaneity and surprise would cease to exist.
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>>183703403
digital devil saga
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Okay, at this point what the fuck is wrong with aeon genesis?

Let me play the shitty dungeon crawler already, fucks sake m8
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>>183702926
I can't really think of a reason to live without external stimulus of some kind. To me, life is about learning new things about the world around you which itself is shaped by other people or just nature itself.
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>>183703680
And what's your point? It would be better to never have something if you can't achieve it? Besides a lot of things are decided for you by the enviroment you were born in and other factors like that, sometimes when things don't go your way it's not even that much of your fault, can you imagine being born in a village in the middle of Africa? I don't see what's so bad about living a dream when the other option is coexisting with pampered self-centered people like in our world

>>183704361
I can see your point, but the world straight up isn't that interesting thanks to the way that people live and behave
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>>183703650
disregarding the requirements for making their fusions available in the first place:
david requires that you fuse apsaras, chagrin, and naga together in a special fusion
wu kong and ares are both normal demons of the fury race
david is level 22, ares is level 31, and wu kong is level 57

no demon will appear in the compendium until they are fused or recruited, and special fusions will not be visible until at least one of the required demons has been obtained
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I just finished IV, help me smtg

Is there any good post-game content in IV? (like bosses and shit)
Should I bother playing Law or Chaos if I went neutral, or just youtube it?
I haven't played the spinoffs besides persona, which one should I start with?
Is apocalypse any good? The edgy MC gives me a bad impression but that's all I know about it.
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>>183704994
Play the chaos route, the NG+ content on it is god tier, just be careful not to miss it, there are some quests in infernal tokyo and blasted tokyo that you need to do to unlock part of it
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>>183704994
not much experience with iv postgame, i got bored
every ending except neutral is some combination of needless destruction and genocide, IV/IVA both have the huge boner for neutralfaggotry
most of the ps2-era spinoffs are good, also desu if you can stomach yasuda's terrible art, i'd personally recommend dds or raidou
apoc's gameplay is generally considered to be a lot better than IV's but the writing is easily the worst of all mainline games and among the worst in the whole series
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>>183705152
NG+ seems like a lot of work though, can I plow through it fast enough to not get burned out? Maybe picking Reincarnation to keep my shit?
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>>183705358
You should pick reincarnation to be honest, Demiurge which is a chaos boss, for instance would be too hard if you don't. As for getting burned out i don't know, i personaly didn't get burned out at all but i can't speak for you, just power through the early and mid game
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>>183703680
they're not given to you, you make them with your own power and ability.

your power's just much greater than in a shared world where you can't make anything meaningful without the whole network of slaves and resources called economy, just to see it corrupted by some shithead, or in a world of str aka world of pure struggle for survival/jungle law where you can't make anything period, because you now lack even that, living closer to a beast than man.

if you really wanted to, you could create obstacles and goals, temporarily limit your power and memories and then play that as if it was real.

your imagination is really limited.
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>>183705707
THIS. Man i love you, you wrote exactly what i think
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>>183705707
"i wish to live in a hollow world devoid of any genuine companionship in which i must self-mutilate to suppress the knowledge that this is the case, but it's okay because the other two reasons are also this retarded"
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>>183705707
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>>183706202
And this world has meaninful companionship? Damn, what kind of disney movie are you living on anon? This world is the definition of meaningless struggle
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>>183654978
Seeing this picture made me realize that Jedah would make a pretty good Law Representative in SMT.
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>>183705707
They're given to you by yourself, for free, in a world where nothing has any consequence. Literally nothing you do in your own 'world' matters. It's the ultimate masturbation fantasy for delusional losers like Isamu who think they're hot shit and should be looked up to by everyone when they've done nothing worthy of admiration or respect.
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>>183706472
not everyone is living the same life and one choice is not going to please everyone
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>>183706602
>become a god
>naw it's a stupid masturbatory fantasy, i'd rather be a slave of such god and circumstances.

yhvh confirmed for a wanker.
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>>183664170
Odin and Maitreya aren't dead, the ones you unlocked are the same ones you fought in battle.
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>>183706602
Again, have fun accomplishing nothing is this world were apparently accomplishments bring the ultimate joy
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>>183706846
The difference between a person in a Musubi world and a God figure like the Great Will is big though. In Musubi you're limited by your own knowledge and imagination, which you can't get anymore of since you live in a completely isolated world. Basically, you still haven't put forward an argument beyond "Musibi is comfier than this world". Literally what is the point of living in true isolation?
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>>183706472
caution: sharp edges
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>>183707943
dagda would be pround
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>>183706472
The struggle itself is what gives our lives meaning
Removing that and you're left locked within a nihilistic nightmare
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fat protagonist when?
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>>183708785
when he'll be older then 19
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>>183708282
You can live as you please in Mosubi, you don't need meaning when freedom already brings infinite possibilities
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>>183709060
>infinite possibilities
you mean as many possibilities as you can think of which aren't as many when you get around to it
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>>183709060
Everyone in your world has as much (or less) knowledge of science/math/literature/art/etc. as you do right now, forever. Good luck constructing a pleasant place to live.
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>>183553827
All of the reason endings are law endings in disguise.
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>>183708785
damn, Naoki Kashima really let himself go
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>>183709813
>can will things into existence that would defy science and make 2+2=6
>can literally design new physics, math and entire reality that works on absurd principles that "just works because god said so"
>science/math of old world is important, everything needs to add up using this world's rules

also
>literature/art
>knowledge of
>implying you remember more than 1% of all the literature you ever read, rather than just a few blurry bullet points, if even that
literature/art is born from imagination, not from a head bloated with useless trivia knowledge. an art critic, no matter how many books he read has no imagination to make his own, at most to imperfectly recreate what he saw.

now that i think about it, i can see musubi being a nightmare for sad fucks with no imagination, who need to replace it with substitutes like struggle to find meaning in their life.

i guess that's why so many people are against it. they lack the ability to use such power, and instinctively fear it.
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The white were right.
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Some days I go through this thread and think wow I gotta be the dumbest guy here then I remember I think philosophy is a massive waste.
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What if Musubi is real, and we are all just part of someones imagination?
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>>183717424
Musubi is a pretty shit reason then.
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>>183717424
>musubi is real
>this world was made by some cuck who had no imagination, so he designed it like a machine and gave it a 'struggle' theme because that's all he could think of
>because of that fat fuck everyone suffers

>>183716905

or alternatively tell him to fuck right off after we die and get out of here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B24w5Fu1ATI

Good that Kaneko has showed up, because they all look the same, with different colors
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>>183717424
It is, and the guy with shit tier imagination is called YHVH
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>>183718470
great find man

https://youtu.be/WnmyYdw_v18
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Picked this up a couple weeks ago and just recently got around to investing some time into it.
I'm about 25 hours in, and it's pretty good so far. The world map is a fucking pain to navigate though.
Thinking I might pick up Apocalypse afterwards too, but I've heard mixed things about it. Is it worth it?
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>>183718285
>>183718721
>undereducated college philosophy majors call the world uninteresting
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>>183719780
>bonds ending
my advice is to speed through the story and enjoy the gameplay
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>>183719780
Yes.
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>>183719862
I'm a law major actually, and i have no idea why you're going out of your way to be a white knight for the world when i bet you would like some deep changes yourself
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>>183718470
you mean like palette swaps? that's normal since they had to fit it in a NES cart
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>>183685987
>Macca Beam
Made me lose two hours, I was livid. Shit like this is why I have saving compulsion and need to do it every minute or else I get uncontrollably twitchy, Nekomatas became my most hated shits for the rest of the game
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>>183720218
Just because you want to change a few aspects of the world, doesnt mean the world itself is uninteresting. The natural world is infinitely complex and would take a lot of "imagination" for a God-like being to create.
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>>183720009
>>183720019
Alright, I'll look into it then. I appreciate the responses since I'm sure this is something you get asked a lot in this general.
Does Apocalypse also retain the whole alignment system? I think that's a really neat feature.
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>>183720218
>literal lawfag
i shouldn't have laughed but i did
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>>183721195
Apocalypse only has good boy points and bad boy points, but they actually have no impact on ending
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>>183721195
law and chaos are joke endings
it's only p4 ending and edgy kid ending both being neutral
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>>183721195
There is no law/chaos/neutral on IVA. Ultimately, it's massacre/bonds (Dagda or your shitty friends).
Except it's done pretty poorly, and really affects the last two bosses. Just treat your friends shit overall, it's easier to go Massacre route->Bonds than the reverse. Or just do Massacre and watch the shitty Bonds ending/final battle, the last dungeon is a pain in the ass to go through.

But yeah, writing is shit in IVA but the gameplay is really good and fixes pretty much all the gameplay problems IV had. Play on at least War mode.
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>>183721427
>>183721439
>>183721484
Damn, sucks to hear the writing is shit. I've actually been enjoying it a fair amount in IV.
But yeah, I'll give it a go after I've finished IV.
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>>183720218
>deep changes
not those anons, but i'm perfectly satisfied with life as well as adapted to it.
The only way it could get better is if I didnt have to work and could have all of time to myself instead of givving up 1/3 of it to society.
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>>183721612
If you like current Persona, you wouldn't really be bothered with IVA.

They both have shit writing, but thankfully SMT is more gameplay focused than Persona.
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>>183721612
we can only hope the new one will deliver good shit
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>>183721746
I like current Persona, but for different reasons. So maybe I won't think it's too bad, but we'll find out later I guess.
>>183721747
I really hope Atlus puts even half the effort into SMT V that they put into Persona 5. Persona 5's gameplay was pretty solid, so I hope they put everything they've got into SMT V.
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If... translation when?
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Well guys you figured out. I created this world just so I could live out my dream of shitposting about things for eternity.
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This is the least dead we've been in a while. which is ironic since we're discussing Musubi
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>>183721057
Just stop dude, it's not interesting and the complexity is wasted thanks to the way we live

>>183721423
I'm not actually a lawfag in SMT

>>183721641
And that's perfectly fine, but there are a lot of people that aren't as comfortable as yourself in life
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>>183721975
never
>>183721940
i hope they put in the same effort they put in nocturne
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>>183721975
Don't worry, it's 80% now!
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>>183721975
REEEEEEEEEE--oh wait I think I heard that it's still ongoing
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>>183722158
>nocturne
That's actually another one that I really want to give a go since I've heard pretty good things across the board. Unfortunately I can't get it to run well on any emulators yet and I don't think they have it on PS4 PSN.
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>>183721940
I didn't like Persona 5 but I loved playing IVA, a lot more than IV too.

It's really Nozomi and Toki that drags the character writing down, everyone else is forgivable and can be likable to some degree. Also lack of Divine Powers route is a bummer
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>>183722138
>it's not interesting
If only your law major required ANY math class beyond algebra or ANY science class, you would know.

>the complexity is wasted because of how we live
What did he mean by this
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>>183722387
it would be a joke ending like chaos or law though
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>>183722387
I thought Persona 5 was fun, but too much time is spent on the social aspect of it all. I guess that's Persona's thing, but it felt really bad this time around. I know it's a meme but the whole "Go to sleep!!" thing really did get on my nerves.
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>>183722530
they need to update that system
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>>183722387
Toki and Nozomi were fine desu, i quite liked Toki but Nozomi not so much
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>>183722773
the master shit was unneeded trash imo
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Social stuff in Persona has killed it. Now we have shit and boring story, bland characters and shit gameplay as always was there. If they are forcing that characters, they at least should make them interesting
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>>183722469
I disagree. I think there's a lot of potential with it, like friends/their demons replacing the typical Divine Powers bosses, Dagda being the main boss instead of Krishna.
It'd have to be done late game though, like maybe after killing Odin or something.
>>183722530
Pacing issues + awful characters were the main issues of the game. The "go to sleep" thing was an exaggeration, but Morgana is an annoying fuck regardless.
Writing Morgana out or having him killed would improve the game a lot.
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>>183722860
That true, but i liked how useful she was during the whole jar stuff and also how she acts like someone who would actually survive in a world like that
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>>183722979
that wouldn't happen though after all look at the chaos/law endings, your idea sounds cool btw
>>183723078
IV:A has it's moments but they're dragged down by the rest of the game
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>>183723078
That was when Toki was a decent character. Then they completely fucked her up by pandering to people still stuck at the mental age of 12.

Also adding that stupid love triangle shit with Asahi, even though she never displayed romantic interest in Nanashi for the well majority of the game.
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>>183723372
>after all look at the chaos/law endings
In IVA, they were essentially side characters.

More importantly, they don't serve the same end-goals as Dagda/friends and the Divine Powers (killing YHVH). Even if they had put effort into the Chaos/Law route (which wouldn't work too well, because there's no chaos/law alignment points), you'd still be writing off half of the game.
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>>183723496
She still has her moments even after falling for Nanashi but i get what you mean, though it never really bothered me that much
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Another batch of newfag stories. Haven't played much but here are some thoughts:
> damn, Nocturne still does not get boring
> initially I thought "Dante crossover in this game is cringeworthy". Never been a huge fan of DMC. Still, fucker delivered. Fight was hype as fuck.
> haven't sided with Gozu Tenno. Generally, I don't really feel alignments in this game yet so not sure how my decisions will affect the outcome.
> Daisoju was fun except of his bullshit Mudoon/Hamaon out of fucking nowhere. Combat against him ended up being RNGfest a bit too much. Besides from that, it was good.
> just so you guys can laugh... I have to admit that for first 10-15 levels I didn't knew how to equip Magatamas. I'm a bit behind in regard of skills. Currently my protag sports Lunge/Heat Wave/Focus and buffs/debufs from support Magatama. No magic, because fuck magic.
> worst moment of the game was when my Pixie lost her Dia because I allowed her to change a skill. Nearly at the start of the game. Went through lots of shit without even basic healing (just items).
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>>183725172
if you btfo daisoju be sure to fuse him as soon as possible with dekaja and dekunda if possible
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>>183725583
I'm still at level ~25 (I think 27). So it will take me a while. But yeah, I miss dekunda & dekaja a lot.
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>>183725172
>No magic, because fuck magic.
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>>183725583
>using the Fiends on your first playthrough
I bet you play on Easy Mode whenever it's an option.
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>>183726865
>not using shit the developers put in
i wanted to remain sane for a while longer ok
>>183726824
world of STR little man
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>>183726824
Newfag here.
I was told to punch god in the face.
I need to be strong for that.
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>>183725172
>No magic, because fuck magic.
It's useful to have for the sake of hitting weaknesses, until you have something to replace it later on in the game
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(pic realated) when?
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>>183727873
> Chad Ziodynecock not being first
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>>183728749
>>>/v/
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>>183728749
he's where he belongs at the bottom of the ranking
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I want to fuck Hikaru
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>>183643578
I'm actually playing through KMT right now as part of my backlog grinding.
First one is alright. Pretty repetitive and doesn't really have much other than the setting to distinguish it from the western CRPGs it's aping. But I do like the old RPG idea of the entire game taking place in one gigantic dungeon for some reason.
The second one is a lot better and I like it a lot so far. Kinda similar in the jump in quality between Dragon Quest I & II. And you can really see the series come into its own and establish some common tropes and mechanics often seen later in the series like the apocalyptic themes, law and chaos routes, a dark hero type character, more robust fusion (including triple fusion), a non first-person overworld map, and guns+swords.
And I really like seeing how series evolve like this, so I'm having a gay old time.
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>>183730820
Nice. Have you played SMT I/II yet?
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>>183731051
I played some of SMT I a long time ago and didn't really make much progress and got my ass kicked. But I was probably just playing badly. Hopefully my KMT experience will be like MegaTen boot camp and I can show it who's boss whenever I get around to starting it up again.
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>>183731197
You won't have any problem with I and II after KMT. I was going to ask you how you would compare MTII to SMT I and II in terms of story, atmosphere, and overall quality since I'm about to finish up KMT I soon. Have fun with SMT I and II though, II is one of my favorite games ever.
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>>183731507
fun fact: SMT1 started off as a remake of MT2
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>>183731507
Can't speak to it too much, of course, but MTII still doesn't an extremely fleshed out story and doesn't have as much of an unnerving atmosphere from what I remember of the earlier parts of SMT I. But it's getting there.

>>183731582
Yeah, I can definitely see that.
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How do i get nerve bullets in SMT1? I hear they're one of the best weapons in the game but i don't know how to get them.
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>>183725172
Only level up your STR, AGI, and VIT to 30. One magatama you get boosts everything but luck by 10, so just dump everything else into luck.
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i wonder why they got rid of some of the art in the remakes

here's izanami trapped in a body horror-esque contraption
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>>183723496
She's introduced in the mid game and falls in love with Nanashi shortly thereafter so...I'd say she does for the majority of the game.
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>>183733503
Yeah, that looks really cool. Maybe I'll go back and play the original versions one day.
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>>183733219
>>183733219
The heroine is equipped with some.
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>>183721612
The writing isn't all shit, it's just that the Divine Powers were so good that they made the hunters, Law, and Chaos look retarded. Their plan is literally stay in the sidelines, then point and laugh at humans, angels, and demons argue who's the biggest Flynn Fag.
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>>183733625
Toki spent most of the game being possessed by Inanna, who projected her desires onto Toki and made her act like waifu bait. The problem is that there's a lack of proper foreshadowing her possession outside of the fact that you don't unlock Inanna after "defeating" her spirit, or the fact that she didn't attack Toki.
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>>183734381
Best villain
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in the DLC for IV:A where you recruit past progatonists the demi-fiend says he got killed by luci confirming TDE as cannon but if that happened that means the cycle of birth and rebirth has been stopped therefore nulling all the of the plans of the divine powers and dagda
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How come there's no nuclear winters in this series? It's just mostly arid wastelands and cloudy areas. Where's the frozen wastelands that pop up? I heard Shinjuku got frozen in MTII but that's more because of lucifer.
>>183723496
>decent character
>boring stotic assassin
Same throughout, only difference is that they just cut the crap and went straight to dicklust.
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>>183735089
Or maybe you're reading too hard into a fanservice DLC
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>>183735996
it's like 4 AM here and i got nothing better to do
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>>183735710
>boring stotic assassin
She wasn't though, she was pretty reliable and badass, also it was great how she didn't care about emotional stuff and focused on the mission
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>>183735710
"decent" as in bearable, more like.
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Bind is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen in a video game.
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>>183737702
oh enemies just LOVE bind in that game
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How good is Etrian Odyssey? I hear its similar to SMT and this gorgeous concept art is making me want to try it.
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>>183575634
I actually do like the IV archangel designs, just not in the original artist's shitty inks nor in SMT.

Anyone know the artist?
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>>183738190
Try the demos.
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>>183733219
Your second visit to Shinjuku if i remember correctly.
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>>183738190
It's not that similar to SMT. If you've ever played PQ, it's pretty much that. First person dungeon crawler, 5 man parties, classic turn based combat. You have to draw your own maps, which is fun. It's a pretty comfy series.
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>>183738190
Not every SMT like, but they're really fun games.
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when was the World of smtg first created?
this is for the sake of the newfags
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>>183740016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcSh_wsMIV0
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>>183740087
Why has nobody posted this in the 8 months I've been here
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>>183736849
I mean she still can do the things she did before she left anyway and until getting possessed again or killing your friends she doesn't ditch.
You know in hindsight training a 14 year old like that would backfire the moment libido and puberty kicked in in a place like Tokyo.
>>183737435
Ah.
But seriously, where's the nuclear winters
>>183737702
It's not really that different to most stop player ailments in RPGs.
Just sucks if the MC gets hit. Paralyisis is worse for me because of the fucking slow as a snail movement speed on the over world plus the flashes every step.
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>>183740517
I'm the last of the oldfags. No one else here knows about it.
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>>183740647
>It's not really that different to most stop player ailments in RPGs.
I don't know of any other RPG where your entire party gets inflicted with a status ailment that renders you literally unable to do anything (even use an item to cure it) except wait and hope the RNG gods decide you're cured at the end of each turn. MC getting hit isn't a problem, the heroine is the one you need to not get hit since she's like the only fucking thing in the game that can cure it.
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>>183740709
are you one of these lads? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRPpAIl9hj8
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>>183741312
I was around when it happened, but I didn't participate.
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>>183740886
I guess.
Btw, do not hand over the pot.
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>>183741985
I chose not to, but she took it anyways
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YellowHeadVeryHeavenly
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>>183740886
Petrification in Final Fantasy.
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>>183742048
And gave you the bind
>Lilith will never bind you
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>>183742672
In FF1? That's similar, but it's only ever a problem if you get ambushed by a lot of cockatrices. And even then, petrification in FF1 has a much lower success rate than what seems to be pretty damn near the 100% that bind does. Plus the attacks that bind you are multi-targeting.
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>>183742858
Just wait until you play Megami Tensei where the enemies can permanently drain levels
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>>183743142
Sounds like Wizardry.
I mean you can just run or bind once you figure it out, and there's no harm in save stating.
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>>183743142
Already beat the KMTs, I'm doing the franchise in order. Energy drain was no problem, since you had plenty of sources of Tetraja to block it.
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>>183744116
I didn't even notice it was happening at first because I was slamming through the battle messages so quickly. Then I noticed my two humans didn't level up at the same time as they usually did and it was the fucking worst.
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>>183740709
Does it feel lonely, anon?
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Trying to start smt I, is the shop meant to look like this or should i probably find another rom?
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>>183746486
are you playing with the orden patch? if not, do it right away

it'll still look like this but if you press A you can see the full name of the item before buying it
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>>183746640
Oh right, that works. Any way of making sure i'm using the orden patch? Just kind of downloa.ded one of the things from the links in the OP
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>>183746894
i think one of the most telling things is the names of the demons

i believe for example that aeon genesis didn't translate demon races (fairies are known as yousei)
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>>183747060
Cool, thanks.
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i really want to fuck this thing.
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>>183747418
You sound like a faggot
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>>183587875
Only the first two have translations.

They're fun pulp novels.
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>>183704228
The dude just doesn't care anymore.
It's like that one time when you wanted to get into guitar, drawing, working out or whatever, and then dropped it halfway through after hitting a batch in the road.
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>>183709813
With infinite time, infinite power and the luxury of not having to worry mundane needs, it sounds doable.

Skills aren't learned in one day. You would only need to keep trying.
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>>183722957
I still like it for the time management aspect and slowly acquiring proficiency in different things, even if they don't have any real impact.

But despite the improved battle UI and controls, the combat feels very easy and braindead though. It's been a while since I played any other Persona, but I don't remember it being so easy.
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>>183747846
what? it's only half dude.
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Hoy.
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Is Persona 2 IS/EP any good?
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>>183754292
The story is good, but the combat is painfully slow and the games are not very difficult.
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>>183471468
My preorder says March, for whatever that's worth.
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Playing dds blind immediately after beating nocturne and it seems real interesting so far. Am i gonna be disappointed in terms of customization here? From what i can tell theres so fusing going on but the mantra system seems p cool
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>>183684163
The Asura challenge quest
>Asura nulls gun and force
>Nozomi uses both
>Asura oneshots Nozomi
>quest ends when Nozomi dies
There's also Ongyo-Ki in Nocturne. Had to look up the full moon trick to beat him.
Luckily both of these bosses are optional.
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Time to die.
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Haven't played Final yet, is she really a dog or is it just because her clothes are Pascal's color?
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>>183755345
Yeah, mine says the same, hopefully it's around, or before then.

>>183760759
Yeah, that's really a dog.
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>>183588315
i rather like the gameplay of p2. the start/stop battle system and not having to input commands every turn after the drudgery of p1 felt so liberating.

i cant tell if i actually like it or if it just feels so good after p1. i think i like it, it kinda feels like ff6 but without having to input commands every turn. plus, fusion spells feel like theyre doing what chrono trigger did but better.
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>>183761583
That shit is backwards.
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>>183761661
Not backwards, but Keroberosu should be Ultimate.
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>>183761767
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>>183761971
Perfect
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H
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>>183496762
EP is trash.
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>>183764834
IS and EP are both trash.
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>>183529116
read the epub fag
or pdf if your desperate
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>>183549048
Someone said there was always a way to know which demon he'd fuse with but I sure as fuck don't remember what it was.
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>>183765430
I figured it was just whichever was your highest level. Unless it just worked out that way for me coincidentally.
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>>183765778
That's probably it. Greedy Chaos bastard.
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>>183603510
Hope you get an extra 500
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-029165

>Ami preorders are fucking closed anyways
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Did anyone else play Tokyo Xanadu? It's like a shitty Persona game.
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>>183616694
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>>183764834
I liked Baofu and some parts of EP and ultimately it's a huge letdown compared to IS, but calling it trash it's a little too much.
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>>183770768
I only call it trash because it let me down so damn much.
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>>183642807
>>got more people into the series

I don't believe you.
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>>183644091
>smt2
>good

pick one, beadman
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>>183648687
We need to change Persona 5 guy to SMT 5 guy.

Or Persona 6.

>we still don't have if
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>>183672369
>I am a Fate fag, and I'd say that overlaps far more. FGO general cannot stop mentioning or talking about SMT.

how/why
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>>183684424
fucking finally

how many books is there, anyway
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>>183700635
I'm so sorry...
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>>183766861
Not really doing a good job of making the game sound appealing.
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>>183774002
Chu chu train
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>>183774232
I'm not trying to, I'm trying to get people to cancel their PS4 preorders if they were insane enough to do so.

What I posted is the first dungeon in chapter 5. There's only like 7 chapters.
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>>183738190
The demos are huge, try one
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>>183740709
Yeah, don't get dramatic now

I remember when this was stickied on /v/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSyIzGfTEBA
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>>183773304
>implying smt2 is bad
I respectfully disagree, but i am curious why you dislike it.
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>>183775478
Shittier game play than 1
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>>183775607
Good review, anon.
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where are the smt I memes
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>>183776659
don't feel too the dog is kill your rocks with your bare hands
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>Isebeau's japanese VA
I get it now
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>tfw a party member dodges your mediarama
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revival Hoy
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New servant in Fate/Strange Journey looking good.
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>>183780806
Demeter?
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>>183780806
Is she a Caster?
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>>183780806
Imagine all the new demon designs in SMTV if they let Doi off his leash
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>>183781298
90% would be female waifu bait and 10% would be like Satan and true form record scratch.
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>>183780806
Doi's still pushing with this weebshit style? Anahita was pretty OK, but come on now Doi, this ain't trauma center nor persona. Cute and/or feminine demons should look less blatant than this. Just fucking revive kaneko already jesus
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>>183781502
Kozuka truly is the only good thing about all the new blood joining SMT.
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>>183781298
A normal schoolgirl
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>>183780806
what is she holding?
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>>183780806
Why mother earth is a little girl?
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I want Doi to go and stay gone.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPvXDBoCkTc
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tfw too old to be a devil children
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Revival HOY
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>>183785124
>tfw too young to be a devil granpa
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>>183781891
It's not Doi, it's Atlus who are working hard to push moe shit. They are trying to get the Persona crowd hooked on Mainline. Plus, remember what Yamai said, the new members of the Maniacs want moe characters.
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>>183780806
Doi you piece of shit stop trying to ruin SMT's beautiful aesthetics.

Some day they will have phased out Kaneko's art entirely and the whole series will look like this. This is the future we have to look forward to.
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>>183780806
Based Doi.
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>>183789687
still looks better than devil survivor
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>>183780806
What is her name?
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>>183789840
they should keep that shit in dusu then
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>>183789051
I'm pretty sure it won't and as a personafaq it does nothing to me
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>>183789051
What makes you think Doi isn't one of those new members that want more moé?
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>>183766861
it's weird how falcom can't seem to make a hard game anymore

i liked trails in the sky but i got burnt out by how fucking easy it is and never finished it
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>>183766861
Planning to get it for the vita if I ever find a physical copy, but I guess I have to import it like with SJ and P1. Sucks being yuropoor sometimes.
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>>183780806
Oh shiet it does look like a castah
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What makes a good and fun dungeon anyway?
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>>183791953
Teleporter mazes.

A high encounter rate.
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>>183792114
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>>183791953
One way doors that lead to dead ends.
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>>183791953
Large, labyrinthine floors with massively damaging floor areas.
Scarcity of healing items/skills.
No entrance teleportation options.
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>>183791953
pits that lead you to one way door corridors towards the beginning of the dungeon
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>>183791953
H-scenes after the end of every battle
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What's exactly the point of Silent Prayer? For all I see, it's situational as fuck and ends up being a wasted slot when you could just putting something else more useful.
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>>183797483
You've pretty much got it
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>>183797648
Then there's no real use for it? Atlus should tweak somehow to make it relevant. Fuck, having a Dekunda or Dekaja ends up being more useful as it stands.
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>>183797483
>>183797786
It's basically just a way for bosses to fuck you over.
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>>183790484
He's pretty much an artist who draws what the scenario writer needs for their games. You should be more worried that Atlus might ruin Law and Chaos again to make Neutral look good in Deep Space Journey, it seems like they're going full Anthony route.
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>>183800567
I don't worry about Atlus ruining things anymore.
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>>183800567
>>183800946
Moeshit being present is not as bad as the writers ruining the series core themes and story. I may not like it, but I'll tough out cuter designs as long as the story remains in the same style as the older games, and stays true to the series.

Apocalypse was the warning for what is to come.
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>>183803567
Dont do this to me anon
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>>183655135
The ironic thing is that FE arguably borrowed some good parts from handheld SMT while SMT took a couple of bad things from FE.
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Is there a name for Nanashi's haircut?
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>>183805379
Advanced Faggotry.
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>>183805379
The "fight with a lawnmower."
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>>183805379
When your Mon ties to cut your hair but you bitch out halfway through.
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>>183805379
Butch-dyke lesbian.
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>>183805379
Attention Whoring Techniques 101
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>>183799580
But then why make it available to the player? Surely Atlus had some semblance of idea for this skill.
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>>183805379
the it's not just a phase mom
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>>183805379
>tfw accidentally made my hair to look like that
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>>183806392
you are now stuck on the world of STR ending anon
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>>183806381
I mean, I guess it's good if the boss is buffed and you're debuffed at the same time, but that's a very unlikely situation to find yourself in if you're not a complete shitter, so the skill is just really situational.

There's a lot of useless skills, I wouldn't fuss too much about it.
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>>183806390
>>183806001
Don't let you mom be an obstacle in your road to true individuality, kill her.
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You're in the club and these guys point their rifles to your Kaneko's ass. what do you do?
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Does Kaneko have any online presence ? twitter ? blog ?
I want to see what his interests are to fuel his art
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>>183806381
It sounds useful against bosses that can buffs faster than you. Only one I can think of is Krishna and I'm not sure if you can even get Silent Prayer in that level range
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>>183811908
HOY
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>>183811908
wew
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>>183805379
>Mfw the early style with him having a full head of hair looked 100X better

It hurts
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>Nanashi from apocalypse looks EXACTLY like this one emo edgy kid back in high school who pretended to be satanic
I simply can't take him seriously, smtg. How do I play Apocalypse.
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>>183813496
play it like the joke of a game it is
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Revival Hoy
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We need new hoys
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>>183817593
HOY
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>>183817593
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>>183817593
I miss when people posted hoys with specific filenames.
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>>183780806
I like it. People act as if demons weren't cute before, bet if she just had dull eyes, pale skin and black lipstick you'd be sucking the dick of who ever made it.
What's the name of the demon anyway?
>>183791953
Status traps, decoy/mimic/booby trapped treasure chests. 1 way maps, annoying encounters, several unique floors.
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Ryuji spin off manga is crazy shit
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>>183813094
Pic?
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>>183818581
EFFIN GROWN-UPS
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>>183819679
DON'T YOU LOVE BEIUNG A PHANTOM THIEF THO?
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>>183818548
>What's the name of the demon anyway?
Are you fucking blind or something? デメテル, it's right there.
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>>183655135
Zero.
Every SMT fan knows FE is shit.
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>>183820354
can you read moonrunes?
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>>183818590
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>>183820502
Don't bother, I'm not gonna translate If...
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>>183780806
A female character!? AKA a waifu!!

Whoa... SJ is RUINED.
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>>183820543
Now I'm mad.
This looks so much better, like an actual fucking SMT protag.
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>>183820610
aparently it's 80% done so no need also what do these runes say?
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>>183820649
Don't post shit frogs.
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>>183791953
One which doesn't respect your time or patience.
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>>183820543
looks like asahi's dad
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>>183820543
tfw we will never get adult banter between proper Dagda and adult Nanashi
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>>183820913
yes
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>>183820543
Oh, I thought you meant normal Nanashi with different hair.

I actually like how final Nanashi looks, but you just know the game wasn't originally going to be Persona-lite if that's how he was initially going to look.
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>>183820741
Don't bother with those /jp/ faggots showing of they learned to read kana, they wont answer shit easily one of the worst shitposters on /smtg/. Her name is Demeter btw.
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>>183821106
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>>183820741
>what do these runes say?
Are you asking about the demon's name or did you forget to post a pic or something? It's Demeter.
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>>183821414
the demon's name
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I'm about to fuse Izanami in apoc and i'd like some suggestions, i'm considering giving her: Thunder Gods, Dark Grudge, Concentrate, Smile Charge, High Elec Pleroma, Elec Pleroma, Debilitate and Mana Surge.
But i could also give her Megidolaon, Mediarahan and Dekunda. What would be the best way to build her?
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>>183820425
It's got great mechanics, bro.
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>>183823593
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>>183823754
I wish /v/ would learn not to spam WEGs with lol so many ebin pictures.
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>>183780806
>looking good
It really isn't.
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>>183780806
someone needs to stop Doi
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if Doi will keep doing what he is doing, demon dating may be a thing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHfs74JTTOU
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>>183825615
Good. Let SMT fall apart so I can cut all ties with this series that I keep trying to find positives in.
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>>183825615
>he doesn't wanna date pixie
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>>183825615
Just embrace the Persona anon, sooner or later they'll rename demons to Persona's anyway.
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>>183825615
my magnetite is ready.
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Shin Akuma-chan Demon Girl Quest
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>>183823952
They really don't get it.
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>>183825615
>I might get to spitroast Alice with other people in the near future
Based Doi.
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Explain how this is a demon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYPOoQHgSN0
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>At this very moment Doi is currently making new demon girls to replace most of Kaneko art on SMT HD
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nocturne newfag here
> hell rider was suprisingly difficult
> there were shitload of easy bosses. I'd even dare to say that non-fiend bosses stopped being relevant.
> wandering for half of hour around prison because I missed a switch was meh
> wandering for half of hour in east ikebukuro looking for tunnel was NOT fun
> wandering for half of hour in these caves is just annoying
> at least Mothman is sweet and cute
> fused Matador. I agree with other guy that said that fiends make this game easy. At least Matador is cool and can dispell debuffs
> Magatamas are confusing. But I finally picked up Frost Breath & Frost Fog which is an upgrade over standard debuff. Also got protection from death (ability) because fuck dying
> did first Kalpa. Used it as a grindfest.
> Succubus sucks. At least she could suck dicks but no, she sucks as everyone has Nerve prot.
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>>183826968
Read his lore in the game
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>>183827130
>at least she could suck dicks but no
we really need that demon dating game
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>>183827721
Just don't let mainline do it. I like it edgy and autistic.
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>>183827130
>>at least Mothman is sweet and cute
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>>183827721
No we don't, demons should be mysterious and dangerous beings, if you can fuck it you won't fear it
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>>183827130
Hope you're having fun anon
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>>183828361
this, I don't mind 90% of the people in the whole company wanting to do moeshit since I also enjoy it, but moe/waifushit is not the reason why I play SMT
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>>183828449
>he doesn't want atlus to the lowest of the low
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smt 5 will have demon waifus to capture the persona audience
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>>183828604
Yes I do. That post could sound like a bitching but game is great. Atmosphere, combat system and fusing all feel great.
Nocturne convinced me to pull the trigger on N3DS purchase to play SMT IV & Apocalypse. I know that they are different and it seems that people complain about them for a reason but still, just the combat system alone can keep me hooked.
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>>183829359
I liked them.
SMT IV i found to be way more enjoyable than Final mostly due to actual writing and decent characters + intriguing story.
Final does improve the gameplay itself a lot tho, I wish for SMT 5 to be a mixture of those with potentially better endings and I'll be happy.
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>>183829148
>yfw it has a bonds route
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>>183829761
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>>183818548
I like her too. Not sure why people are surprised about the style of art after seeing the redone sprites and Alex's design.
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>>183821265
>>183780991
>greek god who's was one of the 12 main ones
Hey a first in ages.
Wonder if we get to help hades kidnap her kid?
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>>183830435
The problem is that it's Demeter who has no real reason to be a loli.
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>>183826968
I only just noticed his tattoo is a Jack Frost, that's pretty rad.
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>>183830772
New route is about fusing Meme Aleph with Demeter to make one big mother
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>>183831016
a jack frost who gives you the middle finger
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>>183830772
Is there any reason for her NOT to be a loli?
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>>183830772
Either it's no reason, there's two forms to represent yearly cycle, References the Triple God thing with Robert Graves or got to compete with Alice and Mon Shuuvuu
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>>183831474
You mean reasons like an actual mythology or having a bit of taste?
Since when Lolis are mothers? Mothers whose kids are fully grown?
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>>183831784
>Since when Lolis are mothers
>he doesnt know
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>>183831784
>a mother must automatically be a thicc milf, and hormonal changes from before childbirth must be permanent even long after her kids reach adulthood.
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>>183830772
Can't wait for her to start calling me master :^))))

Apocalypse's writing wasn't a mistake!
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>>183832747
>fusion result screen does just that
>general and /v/ explodes with fury
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I want the neutral ending in IV but I haven't been following a guide. Am I fucked? I'm at Shinjuku but I don't remember all of the choices I made previously.
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Does someone know where I can find the cutscene from Apocalypse that is the "dream" Nanashi had? The one with "come masakado!", where the firmament is formed?
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>>183828449
This reminds me, in SMT1, one of the coolest parts of the game was how mysterious, intimidating and lethal demons were.

I want that aspect to come back.
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>>183833273
Not yet, check your alignment, follow a guide.
Also, you need to do quite some challenge quests, they will be listed in the guide.
You can still do it, the ending is shit but you can pull it off still.
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>>183833474
>Same game with naked furry cat girl
Now hold on a second
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>>183833639
You got a problem with nekomata, faggot?
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where's the new Doi husbandos tho
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>>183834330
Already got your poo in loo twink in Final.
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>>183834824
Talking about DSJ my dude
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>>183835189
Gilgamesh never
Maybe we will get another greek god.
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>>183835382
Kind of dumb now that I think about it, but I've always had the assumption that Gilgamesh was a popular historical figure in Japan.

Only because of (Fate) Gilgamesh's popularity and that Girugamesh meme.
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>>183833495
It seems tedious as hell to open a guide each time I need to make an alignment choice. But you gotta do what you gotta do I guess.
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>>183836536
As long as you make it a priority to be an indecisive cunt, you'll get neutral desu.
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>>183836675
not in iv tho
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>>183837309
best demon in the series
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>>183836536
most of the time you can flip flop and be okay. It's only imperative to guide it up after the cynical man disappears, because that's when the alignment lock draws near. do keep in mind that some non-dialogue events change your alignment. killing bosses usually pushes you toward chaos automatically. just make sure you avoid law at all costs, because law is shit in IV.
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>>183838513
I guess you know how small that Japanese creator's dick was.
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>>183837894
>spoiler
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>>183838673
fuck, meant for >>183838513
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>>183837894
SMT4 law is best ending though.
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>>183838513
mara never forgives mistakes
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>>183830772
>A goddess of harvest needs big tits and fat hips because that's what I love to fap to and associate it with fertility
Reminder that the roman god of sexual attraction Eros was a shota
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>>183839194
Eros was depicted as an adult (or young adult) very often.
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>>183838960
Why? You protect Mikado which is a boring as fuck place and that's about it
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>>183838960
you miss out on a bunch of demons, like lilith and the defense divinities on law. Plus you kill your ultimate bro, Mastema. A real tragedy.
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>>183840978
Pixie would never cuck demi, this post is a lie
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>>183841443
>>183841443
>>183841443
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>>183839194
To be fair, a pre-pubescent looking girl isn't exactly what a normal person would have in mind with 'fertility'. Unless you live in Africa.

It's clearly just Doi pandering to people who want to fuck anime children yet again.
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>>183836019
There's also Gil from Tower of Druaga, which is a pretty classic Namco game over there. Gil wearing gold European armor actually originates from there.
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>>183840978
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