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>[Chaldea Heat Odyssey ~Progress of Civilization~ Lite rerun]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170720.php
>5* Artoria, 4* Marie, 4* Martha
Artoria is always on rate up
20/7 to 22/7 Everyone
23/7 to 24/7 Marie
25/7 to 26/7 Martha
27/7 to 29/7 Everyone

>[Chaldea Summer Memory ~White Beach of Healing~ Lite rerun]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170712.php
>5* Tamamo, 4*Anne and Mary, 4* Mordred and 4* Kiyohime
Tamamo is always on rate up
21/7 to 22/7 Kiyohime
23/7 to 24/7 Mordred
25/7 to 29/7 everyone

>Summer event farming dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/rMyit

>News
http://view.fate-go.jp/
>English FGO has its own general for now, search /fgoalter/ in the catalog
>There are now costume options, Mashu is the only one available now
>Skill interludes for Astolfo and Arjuna, NP interlude for Geronimo, quartz interludes for Cu Alter, Jeanne Alter, David, Billy the Kid and Li Shuwen.

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Farming Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA/htmlview?sle=true#

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/RA8Px5jz

>Friendlist Spreadsheet (last reset: June 29)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate Servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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Mama thread
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10.0 thread.
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Xth for laser beam guaranteed to blow your mind
Anytime~
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Oni thread
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>>183518759
What the fuck are you doing anon
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Mah Boi Achilles 5-Star Rider coming soon, bros.
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>Gold ticket from Artoria Mission
>Summer Mordred
So this is the power of a father's love....
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>30 roll
>all the summer tickets
>not a single gold servant

WTF BROS
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>>183518759
>>183518818
Fuck wrong image, time to sleep I guess.
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Which servant would have a spanking fetish
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Press S to pay respect
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>>183518828
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>>183518828
Best Rider
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>>183518962
Penth wants to spank Achilles ______gently with extra lewd_____[/spoiler[
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Is Nightingale's NP even worth leveling or did I just draw some rare prisms?
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>>183519084
RP, non-aoe berzerker isn't very helpful.
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Reminder that Achilles killed two Servants and helped in beating Karna
He the real MVP
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>>183519084
How many times have you actually used nightingale?
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Apo event when.
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>>183519015
>tfw a literal fanfiction is going to have better Achilles fight scenes than the anime
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>>183518987
>when you nut but astolfo's still sucking
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>>183519201
You just got it a few weeks ago, how are you enjoying your new CE?
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>>183519143
>helped in beating Karna
huh? but aren't they in the same team?
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>>183518828
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>page 2
Is this it bros?
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>>183519084
It's a pretty significant increase, but at the same time she can't spam her NP at all so it doesn't matter in the long run.
She can only work as a supports in fights like Kiara where she's neutral and not weak to everything.
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>feels good to be the strongest Servant
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>>183519308
higashide is a hack
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>>183518987
Sucks even more that his showing in the anime is trash.
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>>183519341
You tell me
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>>183518987
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Reminder that Fate powerlevels are irrelevant since Goku could solo the entire Fateverse.
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>Siegfried didn't say Sumanai

WORST ADAPTION OF ALL TIME
WORST THAN TURKEYHANDLE
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Why is the Rider class (bar Astolfo) the most likable class?
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>>183519540
Fate doesn't have powerlevels
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I could write a better HGW than Higashide
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>>183518987
>>183519532
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>>183519540
Reminder that Goku jobbed to heart disease and Gae Bolg is an instakill.
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>>183519654
fuck off Kubo
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So anons, who do you think will be? Summer Gil for fujobucks or Summer Mozart to match Marie and BTFO Sanson?
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>>183519412
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>>183518828
I hope his NP is that he flies away from the battlefield like a bitch with his chariot.
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>>183519718
>Pestilence can BTFO Goku
W E W
E
W
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>>183519718
>Goku has fighting instincts that makes Arotoria look like a rookie
>somehow he wouldn't be able to avoid Gae Bulge

Uh Cufags...
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>yfw we get Swimsuit Sumanai
>He decides he needs a vacation as he feels a lot of people talking about him
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>>183519871
Goku is also dumber than Nero with migraines.
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>>183519816
Heh... Sumanai... Kid.
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>>183519862
Don't forget that Servants are immune to anything not charged with mana, which is different to ki.
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>>183519980
Literally just pretending to be retarded like Tamamo Cat.
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How did your FGO favorite character do in the shitty niche survey? Was it among the top 50 or did you get BTFO?
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>>183519871
Instinct doesn't do shit, he needs a good luck roll.
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>>183520037
Are they also immune to not having a planet?
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>>183519341
Do you have autism? Do you have brain damage? Are you okay, anon? Do you need me to call a teacher?
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>>183520056
>Able to move so fast he stops HIT's ability to warp reality and stop time
>implying he wouldn't be able to do the same against Cu
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Making challenge quests this hard should be illegal.
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>>183520046
Better than I expected.
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>>183520219
It was easy, anon.
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>>183520181
Literally doesnt matter if cu manages to get gae bolg off
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>>183520219
b-b-b-b-but you can beat the game with 1* servants!!!!!!!
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>>183520219
It's a lot more fun this way, please git gud.
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>>183520409
The same way it didn't matter against Altria or Archer right :^)
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>>183520181
That's not the point. Once Gae Bulg is invoked, it has already struck you. Even Fragarach which outright changes the order of events cannot nullify it.
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>>183520219
>challenge quests are challenging

woah
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>>183520219
Git gud
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>>183519795
Whoever is it, I don't think it'll be a summer servant.
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>>183520540
>He'll have time to invoke it
That was his point anon
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>>183520219
What should really be illegal is the shitty prize for completing it. If you want to give us a fou then cool, but throw in a ticket or grail with it.
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>>183518828
Will he and Chiron revive Quick?
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>>183520502
Saber's heart didn't get pierced because of her high luck and he never used the piercing version against Archer
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Defend this!
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>>183520674
But then the people that cannot clear it would whine DW locks content behind impossible quests.
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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN ACHILLES JUST BECAME APART OF THE BROGADE WITH MY BROSKANDAR AND WAVA VELVETTO. FUCK YEAH MY DUDES
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>>183520850
Not an argument. DW did exactly what I suggested with every other challenge quest.
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>>183520757
Without a doubt.
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STOP POSTING ACHILLES RIGHT NOW
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>>183520795
>chess
>in anime
what the fuck did you expect
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>>183520757
Not if they're released in 2017.
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There literally hasn't been one good gameplay servant released in all of 2017
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>>183520964
Stop being so cute then.
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SHERLOCK GACHA WHEN?
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https://twitter.com/probocchi/status/888598561884995584
>official never ever
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>>183521138
Lobo, Passionlip and BB are pretty good though.
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>>183521138
>wanting powercreep
Gameplayfags everybody.
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>>183520964
>>183520935
>>183520757
>>183519981
>>183519816
>>183519625
>>183519412
>>183519324
>>183518987
>>183518828
My guys, is this the birth of a new DUDE
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>>183521138
Hijikata is pretty good, and Melt is decent too.
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Lolis are for ___
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>>183521308
Fuck off
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>>183521308
Fuck off
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I need more female Hector
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>>183521308
Fuck off
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>>183521429
Me
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>>183521308
Fuck off
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>>183520964
where is my Penth x Achilles rape doujin

>>183521308
Achilles is more like Cu than DUDE
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Any theories on Hippolyta's unknown NP? Her horse, spear and bow all look normal-ish.
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>>183521446
>>183521448
>those post times

N-nani
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>>183520046
top 10.
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>>183521446
>>183521448
>posted before
>higher post number
NANI???
>>183521308
Fuck off
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>>183520046
Anyone saved the pics?
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>>183521446
>>183521448
HE'S FAST
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>>183521308
Fuck off
sorry
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>>183520046
Where can I see the list?
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>>183521308
Fuck on
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>>183521446
>>183521448
M-MASAKA
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>>183521446
>>183521448
PUT ME IN THE SCREENCAP
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Hello everybody, I come from /fgoalter/ to shitpost since there's a fag from your general in ours shitposting, so I gotta keep it balanced.
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>>183521974
which one
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>>183521974
Fuck off
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>>183521974
I want proof.
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>>183522030
I don't know, he's shitposting about gacha rates and reddit.
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>>183521974
Braindamage is your problem now, sorry.
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>>183522124
literally all of us here do that though
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>>183522124
Isn't that normal over there?
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>Alter stole Braindamage from us

I take it back NA F/GO wasn't a mistake.
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>>183521308
fuck off

Achilles is fine, DUDE is shit
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>>183521540
Cu is called the Irish Achilles, so it only makes sense that Achilles would be Greek Cu.
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>>183522272
They're going to kill memu too in retaliation.
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>>183521974
>implying you can survive shitposting here
This is not /v/ kiddo
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>>183522216
Shit
>>183522224
Nah, past couple of days it was all memu vs phonefags shitposting. Oh, and yesterday someone was defending medb and discord.
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I want Male Mash boypussy even if Merlin has to make me a woman to keep Mash straight.
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>>183522370
Who cares?
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>>183522272
Is the "It's not gay if it's clay" anon yours too? Did he die?
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>>183522405
>/fgoalter/ hates medb and discord too
some of you guys might be alright
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A-At least we're getting a top-tier HF adaptation soon!
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>>183520046
>106 Nitocris
It's alright.
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>>183522610
>advertising saber and rider
>who do literally nothing in the movie
At least it's better than advertising Siegfried.
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>>183522610
I'll watch it for Cu and Hassan engaging in a star wars level fight on a truck.
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Illya (True) servant fucking when?
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>>183520046
I trimmed it from Tsukihime/KnK/Mahoyo characters because I didn't feel like translating all, but this is Fate characters ranking.

Top 50 (Fate Only)
1) EMIYA
2) Saber
3) Gil
4) Shirou
5) Cu
6) Sakura
7) Rin
8) Tamamo
9) Iskandar
10) Nero
11) Mashu
12) Kotomine
13) Kiritsugu
14) Jeanne Alter
15) Illya (FSN)
16) Karna and Okita
18) Hakunon
19) Waver
20) Medusa
21) Edmond Dantes
22) Roman Archaman and Kiyohime
24) Robin Hood.
25) Jeanne
26) Heracles
27) Arash and Astolfo.
29) Scat
30) Liz
31) Altera. Saber Alter and Angra Mainyu.
34) Hans Christian Andersen
35) Mordred
36) Enkidu
37) Arjuna, Ozymandias and Bediviere.
40) Proto Saber
41) Lord El Melloi II
42) Jack the Ripper and Medea.
44) King Hassan, Diarmuid, Uryuu and Merlin
48) Doctor P, Fast Wheels, Kintoki.

FGO-debuting characters top 20
1) Mashu
2) Jeanne Alter
3) Dantes
4) Roman and Kiyohime
6) Scat
7) Arjuna
8) King Hassan and Merlin
10) Kintoki
11) Tamamo Cat
12) Raikou
13) Cu Alter
14) Cu Caster and Nightingale
16) Marie
17) Helena and David
19) Caster Gil and Chev

If there's any correction/mistakes because I didn't recognize a kanji, make corrections. Always clarifying this is a non official pool where most votes were single digit and the surveyed were members of doujin circles that were subscribed to the Komiketplus magazine (most of them males). This magazine generated 0 hype in Japan and had less than 1k likes/retweets in their official twitter. I'll post the female/male top 20 another anon sorted.
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>>183522835
When we find a cure for your autism
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>>183522713
>who do literally nothing in the movie

Saber will BTFO Rider in the first movie
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>>183522124
Are you sure it's not a normal poster ?
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>>183522871
JUST
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>>183522871
>poll that shows that core fans still care about old characters more, and still remember shit besides Fate
>remove all non-Fate characters

For what purpose.
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>>183521428
>this is your average /alter/ poster
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The last fair/real challenge quest was the Dante and Valentine's day quests. These were actually fun and required a strategy with you using any Servants you want. The Ibaraki and Raikou fights were fine also.

Everything after these have been nothing but fights with the either the difficulty artificially raised (You have to use BBC) or a ridiculous amount of HP for a ton of AoE Berserkers.
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>>183522871
Nasu BTFO
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>>183523081
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>0/10, my husbando gil dies so early!
I can't wait.
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>>183522871
>Sakura above Rin
uhh, Rinfags?
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>>183522871
Waifu top 20:
1. Ryougi
2. Saber
3. Arc and Sakura
5. Rin
6. Tamamo
7. Nero
8. Mashu
9. Kohaku
10. Touko
11. Jeanne Alter
12. Aoko
13. Illya (FSN)
14. Alice (Mahoyo)
15. Okita
16. Hakunon
17. Satsuki
18. Akiha
19. Medusa
20. Kiyohime

Husbando top 20
1. EMIYA
2. Gilgamesh
3. Emiya Shirou
4. Cu Chulainn
5. Iskandar
6. Kotomine Kirei
7. Emiya Kiritsugu
8. Nanaya Shiki
9. Karna
10. Waver Velvet
11. Edmond Dantes
12. Romani Archaman
13. Robin Hood
14. Tohno Shiki
15. Heracles
16. Arash and Astolfo
17. Angra Manyu
19. Hans Christian Andersen
20. Enkidu

Thought this made by the other anon was interesting because as he pointed out Fate dominates the male higher positions of the survey (niche as it is) while female rankings are more 50/50 split between fate and non fate favorites.
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>>183522871
>Andersen made it

Satisfaction.
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>>183520046
180, along with the Koala.

It's probably cause she's a pain for doijinkas.
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>>183518962
Mordred almost certainly
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Why does Brynhild not have Andvaranaut as a NP? She died with the thing, so it should be there to increase her suffering and pain.
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>>183521446
>>183521448
>>183521505
>>183521508
>>183521538
>>183521540
>>183521657
>>183521789
>>183522031
AIEAIEIAIEAIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIIEIEIEIEIEIIEIEIEUIUIUIUIUIEUIEUI
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>>183523253
>Waifu
>Husbando
Kill yourself.
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>>183523253
>Sacchin made it
I'm so happy for her
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>>183523146
MONSTER was cool.
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>>183523074
Because this is a /fgog/ thread, go to /tm/ or /a/ for non FGO-related content.

>any doujin circle that subscribed to the magazine
>core fans
I laugh. Most core fans ignore the survey in 2ch.
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>>183522963
Well he said he posted on /fgog/. I guess it can be falseflagging or that one designated shitposter though.
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>>183523253
wtf bros why is sakura in third place i thought we hated her??
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>>183523490
Rape bait sluts are very popular among doujin artists
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>>183523276
>below ORT-tan

HAHAHAHAHAHA PASSIONFAGS
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>>183523436
This, core glfans love Scath and hate Shirou so you know it's bullshit.
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How old were you when F/SN first came out?

Poster is one year off. It came out in 2004.
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>>183523607
What's even the point? We'll never get another one as great as that one with Herc.
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>>183522871
>>183523253
Why is Robin so popular? Where're Kiara, Sherz and Tiamat?
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I want to be Medb's personal cock giver. I would gladly become her cumdump too.
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>>183523710
Poll was made before Shinjuku but after New Years.
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>>183523662
Ten
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>>183523710
>Kiara, Schez and Tiamat
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>183523276
It was a pre-Shinjuku poll though. Moriarty isn't even in the poll.
She'd be much higher now.
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>>183523710
>Kiara, Sherz and Tiamat
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I need your help, /fgog/.
I need to know what are is actual, best way to get the best out of the gacha.

I had 30 quartz that I planned to use in order to get Mordred Rider. Now, I've heard a lot of times how single rolls were the best way to get the most out of quartz.
I was reluctant, so I though: "Hey, let's do a 10 roll just for the sake of it"
>pic related

How can we beat the gacha? Doing the opposite of things? Altering our desire meter?
Happy and prosperous rolls, lads.
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>>183523696
You mean /fgog/ specifically? Because pic related is the best HG of all time that will never be surpassed.
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>>183522871
>>183523253
Sasuga Emiya.
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>>183523662
12
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>>183523696
Never forget.
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Did anyone ever try to play FGO from an ad-hoc wireless network?

Cable goes into the laptop which gives off wi-fi, but for some reason FGO is the only app that doesn't want to work through it, even streaming Twitch works.

Is there anything I can do to improve the performance of my ad-hoc?
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>>183523253
>19. Medusa

Will HF movies improve the situation?
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>>183523662
6
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>>183522408
>to keep Mash straight.
Mashu is a raging gay though
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>>183523662
8
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>>183523826
I don't think so, the people who were surveyed didn't strike me as FGO players.
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>>183523662
Damn, I was only 10
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>>183523784
>>183523826
So it's older than the FGO servant poll? Makes sense then that even Melt is that low.
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>>183523146
I liked Dantes because Eye was enough to clear it
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>>183523870
It's all luck. You could spend 1000$ and not get what you wanted while some guy uses one ticket and gets it.
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>>183523662
I was 10.
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>>183523893
That's pretty good, but I meant /fgog/ specifically. >>183523935 was more fun than any other HG on this thread, except maybe the one mods tried to delete.
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>>183522591
It's literally half of /fgog/ with a few fate oldfags who couldn't read moonrune. /v/ left when there was nothing but a month of grinding.
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>>183523662
16
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>>183523870
Light meme
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>>183523826
If this was a survey taken to fans, sure, but these are doujin circle members. The reason why Emiya beats Saber is because Emiya has a large chunk of doujin market (with Cu, they are the golden BL pairing), and Ryougi is the secondary favorite, here someone memes Iskandar, but in Japan, it's Ryougi because a secondary fan can watch her movies and know everything of the character while Fate demands you to dig deeper to get to know some characters that appear in Zero.
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>>183524131
My point exactly.

You could not do shit like that with these last two quest as they want you to use a specific team and not have fun with it.
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>>183524294
Iskandar's introduction is the end of his development.
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>>183523870
Do a gacha dance. Minyami and fake Mashu did that.
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>>183524213
I'm /v/ and I'm still there and I whine about you fags being there like every 3 days.
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Why won't TM do another character poll? How long has it been since the last one?
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>Boudica sets Lip on fire
>Lancelot sees from a distance
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>>183524294
Ryougi is secondary bait here too though
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>>183524430
2012 I think
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>>183524387
Do the nips call her fake Mashu too or are they respectful of that kind of thing?
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>>183524426
What a coincidence. I'm an oldfag who hangs out in both and I complain about /v/ every 3 days since yall ruin everything.
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>Hyper whale friend has maxed Merlin and Waver
>Uses Jeanne Alter for All slot
>Does THIS
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>>183524514
Nips [insert my own opinion I want to strengthen by saying the nips feel like that too].
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>>183524117
See >>183524294
Keep in mind that even among those who played FGO, didn't even bothered to beat the first part of game until they rushed in for the CCC collab months later which jumped from 30% or less to around 70%.
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>>183523662
18
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>>183524430
It won't be good.

Look at the 2012 poll. It is not truly reflective as it was taken in the middle of the F/Z anime. If it was done to day all the F/Z would tank and would be replaced with F/GO characters.
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>>183524772
Hey now, this isn't the place for that. Tvtropes is elsewhere.
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>>183524747
whales are retarded, what else is new?
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>>183524382
Iskandar's popularity is linked to Waver and the fans dig to find out what happened to Waver, so no. Ryougi is secondary-face of Type Moon according to hardcore nip fans. Not Iskandar, you're confusing western market with nip one again. Waver began to feature everywhere (as Nasu wanted it but he took advantage of this) to bait those people.
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>>183524792
Isn't it about time for you to fall asleep watching Matlack reruns, grandpa?
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>>183524747
Delete him for being a cuckfag.
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Gareth-chan when?
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Jeanne or Astolfo?
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>>183525026
get off my lawn faggot, I was here first.
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>>183524747
I'd honestly do it for laughs.
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>>183523935
Too bad HG guy died before Day 2 happened
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>>183518572
Uhhh /fgog/?
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>just got my first credit card in the mail
Is this what unlimited power feels like?
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>>183525106

Astolfo.
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>>183523662
6
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>>183525254
Only until it feels like crippling debt
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>>183522871
How did Gil barely beat Shirou when he had a WHOLE Order for him?

And how is Tamamo higher than Nero when Nero also had a WHOLE Order for her?

Is TYPE-MOON pandering the wrong characters?
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>>183524780
Yeah, Shiokawa mentioned that they were trying to make people desperately advance in the story because they couldn't move their lazy asses. Maybe Camelot traumatized them.
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>>183525254
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>>183525368
Shirou had a whole 2 VNs and several anime
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Sita when
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>>183523662
15
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>>183520540
>>183520409
Is this just people pretending to be retarded? Cu dies by Goku powering up or sneezing at him
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>>183525254
Don't whale too hard with it. That's my best advice to you.
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>>183523634
BB has just 13 votes. 13. Fucking poll.
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>>183525368
>And how is Tamamo higher than Nero when Nero also had a WHOLE Order for her?
If anything that order is the reason Nero is lower
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>>183524294
We all know secondary favorite is Saber since fsn is a thing.
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>>183525254
Don't do it, anon. Put a couple cheap things that you can pay off easily on it and get a good credit score. You'll thanks yourself in a few years.
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How many chickens must I sacrifice to get a race queen event?
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Why haven't you pulled me yet, Anon-kun?
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>>183525496
It's people making fun of DBZspics that still take that trash seriously and can't understand anything but linear powerlevels. Like (You)
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According to Waifuhunter the Tamamo expert, Tamamo is the only servant in CCC that Karna respects and likes
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So the stream will be next Sunday right? That is 761 days from the original game release
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>>183525368
Shirou was riding fresh from the UBW re-broadcast and this was taken before the majority of fans ever even bothered to beat FGO story. See >>183524780

Shiokawa had to force them months later by locking content with the CCC collab because the vast majority did not clear part 1. This survey was taken after New Years.
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>>183525629
>pulled
>Schezfag
Kill yourself
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>>183525592
Any recommendations?
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>>183525629
No, I'll take the five rare prisms instead.
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>>183525551
KnK is way more popular among secondaries.
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>>183525368
See how low are FGO characters? It's safe to assume most voters aren't FGO players. And the difference of votes between Nero and Tamamo is minimal.
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>>183523634
I had never seen a poll in which the supposed "elite, well-versed, and creator" part of a fandom has objectively worse taste than the secondaries and mainstream one.
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Are you having fun?
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>>183525674
It looks like the only one that he doesn't like or respect is EMIYA. Gil and Nero have his respect to some degree, at least.
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>>183525629
Fuck off
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>>183525818
This, why the fuck isn't Scath #1?
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>>183525806
>It's safe to assume most voters aren't FGO players
More like they're just not shallow secondary scum that started with FGO
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>>183525368
You realize that Shirou has a whole VN for him right? More if you count Prisma.
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>>183525818
>elite well versed and creator
They aren't, someone post the result of how many of them made TM doujin.
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>>183523662
11
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>>183525368
about tamamo easily Nip waifu wank for the betas plus not having Sakurai ruin you like (s)he did with Nero
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>>183525967
Shirou got his votes split just like everyone else though
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>>183525765
I was traveling a lot when I got my first one so I put stuff like airline tickets and travel expenses on it then immediately paid it back. If that's not in your ballpark, small stuff like quartz might not even be a bad idea. Just don't think of it as free money, that's how people dig themselves into stupid holes.
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>>183525882
>Scath
fuck off
Anyway, we know already EMIYA is the king of Fate fanfiction. Doujinfag was right.
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Who do you think Asanagi/insert other doujinka voted for?
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>Giltard can't explain this
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>>183526174
Who cares?
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>>183525674
Kill yourself reddit
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Is it okay if I've fallen in love with Tamamo?
I never gave a shit about her until I started having fun with her during the summer event.
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>>183526203
Gil has never lied before. Why would he start now?
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>>183526203
>Half man and half god
But that's fucking wrong
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>>183524747
That's pretty good.
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>>183526214
Unlike you EOP, Waifuhunter actually reads and translate moonrunes, you should be the one to kill yourself since you're virtually worthless and have no purpose in life other than sitting on your fatass shitposting with your cheetos covered fingers.
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>>183525674
>She's a Divine Spirit even more superior than me
ummm lancelotfags?
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>>183523662
9
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>>183526384
>wrong
Sorry bitch, it's canon.
Cry more.
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>>183522871
If this was taken now, Merlin, King Hassan and a lot of other characters would be higher. Merlin had his doujin boom after April. Presumably because fans actually beat Babyalone.
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>>183526367
>Gil has never lied before.
He always lies.
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>>183526339
Do as you please but she cucks you for Hakuno
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>>183525882
I was thinking the same. I went to one convention in Japan during June, if I remember correctly, and I just saw Jeanne Alter, Mashu, Shuten, and Sakura clones' doujins. There was other stuff like doujin of the rest of the Alters, Scat, and others, but they had less than the first ones I mentioned.

And judging by the images released of the upcoming Comiket, it will be almost the same situtation, just adding Summer event and commemorations of Part 1's ending added.
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>>183526203
Someone post the Divinity part of Gil's profile. There should be something interested there.
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>>183526558
Only potatoniggers and dirty eurotrash cares about Scatshit, the rest of the world actually has taste.
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>>183526558
Did you buy anything?
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>>183526513
They are pretty high all things considered.
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>>183525796
No, F/Z is the more popular installment between secondaries, even in jp. Dont push the "Shiki is for secondaries" meme just because you dont like her.
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Maybe Tamamo taking the backseat isn't so bad. She'd probably get the shilling instead.
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>>183526442
sure thing reddit scum and no one cares about CCC so end you fucking life piece of trash
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>>183526513
>Merlinfags in damage control
He's only liked because of gameplay memes.
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>>183526442
Kindly fuck off, Reddit. Okay? Just fuck off and die.
Nothing of what you guys do has any value at all. Nothing. Literal shit scribbles on a shit site.

Why do you guys even come here for? What purpose if there to be an annoying faggot on a community that actually supports itself on desire to help each other. Rather than karma, or whatever your shit like system is.

Fuck off and stay there.
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>>183526731
Fuck off, underage.
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>>183526558
>one convention
What convention was that?

>June
This survey was after New Years, when less of 30% FGO players cleared first part, keep in mind that when is about post camelot characters. I'm sure Extella release is also influencing the positions of some characters too.
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>>183526671
Melt and Jeanne Alter keychains that looked very cute.
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Rate up is a lie
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>>183526731
>>183526903
>not caring about TM content
>not interested in new lore
Expected of a fat neckbeard whose only joy in life is shitposting on an imageboard.
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>>183526650
Most Irish people here seem to hate her though.
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When's servant marriage?
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>>183526861
Aren't nips massive gameplayfags?
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>>183526920
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I'm glad I have no loyalty to 4chan or reddit. Is this is symptom of being old enough to remember that both these sites were always crap?
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>>183526517
source?
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>>183527021
>continues to prove my point
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>>183526991
Not soon enough.
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>>183526991
>kiara
>marriage
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>183527014
Yes.
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>>183526681
Nasu acknowledged that Shiki is popular among secondaries in the popularity ranking.
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>>183527014
I think that's chinks.

Granted, there's Schez, but that's partly cause she's not limited, sucks, and autism.
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>>183527034
We can have actual translators or we can have worthless shitposters like these two;
>>183526731
>>183526903
I think the choice is obvious
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>>183526972
Try harder, Reddit. Screencap all your (you) s for validation on your shit site.
Just kill yourself. Laughable.
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>>183526972
Aw, how cute. The only thing the dumb redditor can do is spout stereotypes.
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Why does Pent hate Achilles again? Because he killed her?
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>>183526924
Sunshine Creation at Sunshine City. It was pretty good for a TM fan.
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>>183527072
>some Servants are off limits for marriage
>if you try you to marry them you get a line saying they're interested in [hint for another character] or whatever else for their special case
DO IT DW
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>>183526991
Screw marriage. I want a servant petting minigame for bond points.
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>King Hassan's NP instakills Tesla
OH FUCK
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>>183527147
What are you doing here then?
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>>183527185
He belittled her status as a warrior with a toss away line about how beautiful she was mid-combat.
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>>183526946
Keep going, I rolled that exact same rare prism 4 rolls before I rolled my Mordred.
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>>183527034

4chan is much less toxic than reddit.
This place may be a shithole among shitholes but at least there's dignity here.
>>
>>183527179
>>183527181
What do you two useless suhhumans even contribute to this thread, let alone the TM fanbase, just off yourself worthless scums.
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>>183527185
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>>183527185
Because he said she's cute.
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>>183527185
He disrespected her as a warrior when as she was dying rather than celebrating his victory or being relieved he had won he just commented that she was beautiful

it was an insult to everything she was because in that moment she was shamed as being not a warrior but a simple woman
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>>183527436
So an SJW
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>>183527358
Nah, it's only a sudden urge to roll so I waste 4 tickets and hey! He appeared!
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>>183524035
When the surveyw as taken, she's in a good place, anon with her new animations, Ana and Gorgon. Even if most fans didn't beat Babylon until later, she had Extella when the survey was taken, that explains why she had this placing (most Extella characters have a good placing, hint).
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>>183527468
No. Fuck off.
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>>183527185
He called her pretty. This was unforgivable.
>>
Reading nips twitter about Sumanai death are both funny and depressing as fuck.
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>>183527563
>I'M NOT A WOMAN ABLOOBLOO ;(
Okay tumblr.
>>
>>183527563
Pent is literally an ancient feminist
>>
>people say Lip is good
>use her
>her NP is shit
Why did you lie to me?
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>>183527628
She cut off her tiddies bro
>>
>Achilles got his invulnerablity 6 centuries after the fact, and necrophilia 22 centuries after that
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>>183527682
cccfags are delusional, what else is new
>>
>>183527628
Gamergate was years ago, senpai. Let it fucking go.
>>
APO IS OUT Sumanai is going to die already? Are you fucking kidding me?

https://animeflv.net/ver/46569/fateapocrypha-4
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>>183527687
Not it the Nasuverse.

>>183527616
What are they saying?
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>>183527682
>healing NP on a tank
>bad
You're just dumb
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>>183527386
Keep going, Reddit. You are making me hard.
I might actually wank to your post, as to imagine a "renowned" Redditor posting here, trying to get recognition shilling himself on a Mongolian basket waving image board.

Come on, plead more!
>>
>>183527682
Her NP is literally only there to make some stars or start off a BBC when she only has 2 Busters available.
>>
>>183527682

Nobody lied to you.
Her np is more used for the aoe heal than the dammage, although you may proc the instakill effect from her third skill with it.
Her skills makes her a decent taunter. And her buster brave chain actually pack quite a punch with crits.
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>>183527778
Fuck off retard.
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>>183527687
Good thing the form we got was pre-removal.
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>>183527863
I thought instakill doesn't apply on her NP?
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>>183527765
>that shitfest
>relevant
People like that still exist, especially in the UK. Pent just needs to calm the fuck down and get out of here with muh warrior muh honour shit. That BS got old with Deertrash. If she's still having problems she can come to me and I'll make her feel like a woman again.
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>>183527436
What a retard. What's wrong with being called beautiful?
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>>183527765
>calling out dumb tumblr bullshit is GG, which happened years ago and was completely irrelevant like a week later
Fuck off tumblr.
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>>183526749
>>183525601
where did this 70% come from? i've seen it floating around in a lot of places, but it seems like a universally accepted asspull to me. did DW or Aniplex release this percentage? or is it just a user-compiled estimation?
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>>183528105
Basically he was saying "what a shame i had to kill a fine piece of ass", so her whole life was invalidated
>>
>>183528105
Amazon's were very tsun.
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>>183525674
Isn't this the Tamamofag from Beast's Lair?
>>
>>183528105
Well the Amazons were basically "warriors before women" so Achilles just undid all of Penthesilea's life work with a single throwaway line instead of celebrating her as a warrior
>>
You'd think Penthesilea would be more angry at the guy who stabbed her dad, dragged her corpse behind his chariot and then dumped her in a river to deny her of burial rites to spite some faggot than she would be about the aforementioned faggot thinking she's cute while she bleeds out on the ground.
Isn't it sad Diomedes-kun?
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>>183528105
Ignoring how stronk she was hurt her pride.
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>>183528105
Achilles saw her as a woman instead of a warrior so she got mad.
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>>183528221
Maybe cause NA's pool is smaller?
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>>183527778
Thank goodness I know Spanish.
>>
>>183528221
DW said so
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>>183528105
it'd be like if you trained to be a super pro in some fighting game. then in the middle of some long tough fight against another player, he beats you. but instead of commenting on your skill or being happy he just looks at your defeated face and says "nice shoes"
>>
Why won't anyone put the nightingale CE on a assassin
>>
Who is the Servant with the most servant kills in the franchise?
>>
Is Achilles into tsunderes?
>>
>>183528494
He's into Atalanta so probably
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>>183528393
those subs are overly literal trash though
>>
>>183528480
Gil
30k+
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>>183528308
Diomedes' shit treatment of Penthesilea isn't mentioned in Fate or in most extant accounts of her part in the Trojan War. Meaning it's completely irrelevant to her character here.
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>>183527110
He doesnt say that she is popular among secondaries, but that her popularity got boosted thanks to the movies
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>>183528228
Her life was invalidated anyway. She lost.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>183528308
At least Diomedes considered her a warrior. It's easy to boil it down to her being tumblr, but really it's like >>183528306 said. In one sentence, Achilles undermined everything she'd spent her life working at.
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>>183528480
Passionlip and Shiki.
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>>183527185
Because he was a GREEK MALE.
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>>183528625
Okay tumblr
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So Achilles and Evil Cat relationship are more like kouhai-senpai thing?
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Pent should have stayed in the kitchen desu
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>>183526616
>Someone post the Divinity part of Gil's profile
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>>183528228
>>183528306
>>183528310
>>183528362
>>183528437
Does the bitch not understand she was such a weakling and not worthy of being considered a warrior? Achilles probably thought it was some autist flailing angrily.
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>>183528480
Nero maybe, just because she has that one kill on Iskander in Extella over Tamamo and Emiya.
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Who are the top 3 fastest Servants and why aren't they Assassins?
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Finally I pulled Altria Archer on her banner
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>>183528802
How do you even become 2/3 god
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>>183528802
Fucking NA
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>>183528874
Lancer Achilles, Rider Achilles and Berserker Achilles
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>>183528614
It's not even debatable that 99% of movie goers never read the novels.
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>>183528907
Gil's dad was a demigod and impregnated his wife while possessed by another god. Presto.
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>>183527185
He said that she was cute which triggered her.

And then Achillies's friends decided to desecrate her corpse by dragging it behind a chariot. Which pissed Achillies off.
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>>183528802
Fuck those that became actual gods I guess.
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>>183528874
Because Assassin's don't have NPs or Skills that let them go fast.
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>>183529074
How ironic.
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>>183528105
He wouldn't have said that to a man, that's why she couldn't forgive it.

It's not that she was weaker than a man but she didn't receive the same respect solely because of her beauty

That a why she incarnated as not her mature self because in her mind her prime is when she won't be disrespected for her beauty
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>>183528903
>look mom I did it again xD!
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>>183528802
>神性:B(A+)
最大の神性適正を持つのだが、本人が神を嫌っているのでランクダウンしている。
三分の二が神、三分の一が人という高い神格を持ち、この世で彼に敵う存在はなく、この世のすべてを手に入れた超越者として完成している。
>この世で彼に敵う存在はなく
Sasuga NA
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>>183528802
How can Lancelot ever compete with a SUPREME BEING? BTFO forever, kek
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>>183529047
Dantes is faster.
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>>183529065
Wouldn't that make him 3/4
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Which servant would be the most likely to pour the milk before the cereal?
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>>183529102
Why are Assassins mostly QQQ then? I want more non-Assassin QQQs. Dantes should've been QQQ.
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>>183529219
None because you can't become a heroic spirit as such a fucking degenerate
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>>183529219
The cows.
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>>183529161
By being INVINCIBLE
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>>183529219
I'm inclined to say Spartacus but Spartacus is more inclined to pour motor oil into a garbage can then proceed to eat the cereal with a knife he's holding with his foot.
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>>183529189
His mother was fat.
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>>183528874
Why it would be assassin?
Logically it would be rider.
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>>183529074
>Achilles getting mad for dragging someone's corpse behind a chariot
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>>183529189
They hadn't invented math yet, shut up.
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>>183529219
They wouldn't eat cereal because they aren't cumskin subhumans
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>>183528907
Babylonians had funny ideas about genetics.
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>>183529085
I'll never understand this.
>Karna, Tamamo, Rama, Herc are all actual gods
>A
>Gil is 1/3rd less god
>A+
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>>183529320
>So SUPREME Lancelot needed to cry for help to defeat him while he wasn't even fighting at half strength
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP
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>>183529261
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>>183529339
It's okay when Achilles does it.
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>>183529156
>in this world
Lancelot came from the world of the fairies though.
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>>183529219
Caster Gilles. Committing sacrilege is kinda his thing.
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Lorewise, is he the strongest Rider or is it still Ozzy?
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>>183529429
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>>183529490
Noah
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>>183529475
He actually doesn't, he was adopted by a fairy after his birth parents died
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>>183529490
Iskandar is stronger.
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>>183529219
Sounds like something Merlin would purposely do to piss (You) off
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>>183529064
Have you read them? Let me spoil you, they are trash. Even Nasu acknowledge the movies are the best way to get into KnK.
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>>183529490
Indrajit beats them both.
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I wonder if we'll ever get any male gods. Goddess Core is a bit awfully specific.
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>>183529436
>so INVINCIBLE Gilgamesh needed to cry for help while he wasn't even paying attention, and even with help Gilgamesh was unable to kill him
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>183529473
>its OK when Achillies does it

Pretty much sums up a good chunk of Greek History.
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>>183529545
>The Ark of Noah: Amidst the Sea, Upon Ararat, Genesis: EX (The Ark of Genesis is a tremendous structure constructed of reeds and slathered in pitch. It is too tremendous to be summoned on a whim, and must be constructed by Rider, either through the gathering of proper materials or by the accumulation of mana to the ship's frame. Once constructed, the ship is immobile outside of water and possesses no means of propulsion. It possesses no offensive capability, and instead serves as a shelter for Rider and any beasts she has come to possess. Within the Ark these beasts are regarded not as within modernity but as the ancient creatures they descend from. They grow closer to their primal roots and become exponentially more fearsome. The outside of the Ark us a bulwark against the divine, blessed with safe passage to withstand the cataclysmic means in which Rider's god chose to end the age and wipe away human civilization. So long as one is inside this Ark, they need not fear acts of god.)

>S------ and V------: B (A single familiar stays close to Rider's side at all times. It is the size and shape of a young woman but formed by clear, ever-flowing water. Its true name has been obscured by Rider and its power diluted, but it is still a powerful Noble Phantasm that carries the enduring nature of still waters and the rush of an angry sea. With the tides its mood alters, and it transfers between a calm entity that guards its master and a vicious creature that drowns servants in water that consumes their mana.)

I don't get it, is flustered saberfag's Noah also Neptune?
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>>183529429
>Karna, Tamamo, Rama, Herc are all actual gods
They all were born from humans, though.
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>>183529779
>history
look at this retard and laugh
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>>183529490
Ozzy is probably stronger since his temple is OP as fuck. Maybe Achilles could beat him if he manages to enter the temple and uses his sanic speed to reach him.
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How do I make it bearable to farm oil
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>>183526446
She's pretty weak in her current form, but even in her Beach form her divinity is at least A rank. I'd almost think that Nasu is slowly retconning her being weak due to splitting her power by the nineth power.
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>>183529429
Karna and Herk are 1/2 god. Tamamo and Rama are avatars of gods, not actual gods themselves.
Actual gods have Divine Goddess Core and shit instead of Divinity.
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>>183529553
His training that made him INVINCIBLE was all in the world of fairies.
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>>183529490
Lorewise, probably.

He is literally invulnurable unless you hit him in the heel, so the only person who would know to aim for that part would be those that knew him in life i.e. Paris, Chiron, Diomedes
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>>183529490
Drake is stronger
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>>183529756
>So SUPREME that he cleaved Lancelot's most powerful weapon in half, a literal Noble Phantasm, with a single shot, and two more was all it took to knock the second strongest servant in the war out cold
HOW WILL ANYONE ANYWHERE INCLUDING ME RECOVER
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>>183529817
It doesn't matter, they have their divinity at A rank because they're gods. Demigods like Arjuna only get B rank at best.

>>183529892
I should have put it better, they get A rank because at some point, their existence was, is, or will be divine. Karna and Herc were demigods who became actual gods when they died, and Tamamo and Rama are incarnations of actual gods. It still seems weird that someone who's only 2/3rds god would be more divine than them.
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>>183529832
Achilles is divine so he can use NPs inside the temple, it's gg after that because ozzy himself doesn't fight and his divinity doesn't apply to the entire building
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>>183529892
Both Karna and Herc became gods after they died.
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>>183529074
How do you even get this mixed up? Achilles in Fate removed her helmet and admired her beauty. She took offense at that. There is no "and then" in that account.

The stuff about anybody Achilles knew doing anything to Penthesilea is not mentioned anywhere in FGO, and ancient sources provide different accounts depending on what you're reading. But I don't think I've ever seen anything outside of Fate treat Achilles' appreciation of Penthesilea's beauty as an insult to her.
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>>183529992
>He is literally invulnerable unless you hit him in the heel or have Divnity of C or higher
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>>183528310
Its not even that, if he had lambasted her as being weak that would still be him acknowledging her as a warrior.

Instead she was neither strong nor weak, she wasn't even in the playing field for him, she was just a women. Those words drove her insane. She lived her entire life as a fighter, she didn't mind even if she had lost, since that only meant they lacked virtue. But instead she died not even being considered a fighter, just a women.
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>>183529693
And Knk was the first push to making Type-Moon a name for a wider audience because it had serious and gritty storytelling without the bishoujo trash hangups of f/sn.
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Is she forgiven yet
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>>183529992
His invulnerability can be negated by having high enough divinity. His protection weakens with each level of divinity and is completely bypassed by B or higher.
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>>183530076
>Achilles is divine so he can use NPs inside the temple, it's gg after that because ozzy himself doesn't fight and his divinity doesn't apply to the entire building
Not how it works. The NP in question had to be used or owned by a deity, or the Servant in question needs to have been a deity themselves. Divinity by itself isn't enough to make it work, and neither is being a Divine Construct. Achilles' isn't going to be immune to the Divine Beasts or the poison curse, and with Mesektet and Dendara he'll be forced to turtle until he dies.
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>>183529490
Where does Quetz actually place on the Rider tier list Lorewise?
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>>183530272
Dendara is a siege weapon, not a point-and-shoot gun. Why do people treat it as such?
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>>183529553
>The twin turbofan engine, receiving Berserker's alien power, gave off a monstrous roar.
>receiving Berserker's alien power
>alien power
Lancelot is a descendant of ORT which is why he has a NP similar to Crystal Valley.
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>>183530257
How many servants have B or higher divinity though.

It cant be many.
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>>183529992
>unless you're a divine being who can punch his shit down like herkek or ex wrastlin literal who
>or if you have a divine weapon which almost anyone who isn't shit does
he's meh compared to riders we already have
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>>183530257
By C or higher, you mean. Equal Divinity to him is enough to negate it.

>>183530364
A siege weapon that can still be used on single targets.
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>tfw Herc could beat Ozzy if it wasn't for the dumb poison
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>>183528572
The show and novel are literal shounen trash.

Man, this anime looks like it was made before 2010. Even freaking Kanon 2006 looks and is animated better.
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>>183530501
Can the poison bypass Godhand?
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>>183530356
It'd probably be like
Ozymandias
Achilles
Iskandar
Perseus
Quetz
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>>183530364
Anything is a shotgun if you're brave enough.
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>>183530373
Alien in that sense means foreign. Lancelot isn't like ORT, he's just the spic of Camelot. A foreigner who thinks he's hot shit, demands love and free stuff, and throws a violent shitfit that destroys his neighborhood when he doesn't get his way.
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>>183530092
>>183530074
They got recorded in the Throne right after they died, before they became gods. It was in Herk's FSN profile or something, I believe.
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>>183523662
21
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>>183530392
Quite a few considering that a lot of heroes are demigods, and any level of divinity means they can at least scratch him. And like the other anon said, it might actually be C rank completely bypasses it and I'm remembering wrong. Divine weapons of high ranks also bypass it IIRC.
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>>183530074
But they are summoned like heroes, not gods. Gods weren't supposed to be servants in the first place. And as heroes they are only 1/2. Tamamo and Rama aren't actual gods either, they are just avatars.
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>>183530392
Heracles
Tamamo no Mae
Karna
Rama
Suzuka Gozen
Gilgamesh
Cu Chulainn
Cu Chulainn [Prototype]
Cu Chulainn
Arjuna
Child Gil
Ozymandias
Nitocris
Gilgamesh
Berserker of El Dorado
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>>183530452
>A siege weapon that can still be used on single targets.
So can a ballista but that doesn't mean it's easy to aim
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>>183530076
>>183530272
I think it's better to wait for the mats before getting too set on one idea of how it works exactly. Remember how people used to say nobody with divinity below C could harm Achilles at all, but then it turned out those with lower ranks could harm him but to a reduced extent?
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>>183522871
>Sakura
>More popular than Rin

Ha, eat shit faggots.
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>>183530553
Probably, and Herk was fatally wounded by poison in life. He's likely conceptually weak to it.
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>>183530018
>So INVINCIBLE that he pierced through Gilgamesh's armor, a literal Noble Phantasm, with a single stab from a street pole, and that was all it took to kill the second strongest servant in the war
HOW CAN GILTARD EVER RECOVER FROM THIS?
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>>183529490
Lore-wise Quetzle is strongest to date, but that's since she's an existence beyond servants that's lowering itself slightly into being a servant.

Read Babylon if you want, but she's strong, strong enough to damage invincible Tiamat and dry up the oceans. Divinity is already at the highest rank, stats are all high, and she fairly counters Ozzy and Achilles.
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>>183530554
Quetz would evaporate Iskandar's IH in a second.
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>>183530356
Strongest rider, she singlehandedly repelled Tiamat and is a divine spirit of one of the oldest people
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>>183530554
Quetz counters Ozy pretty hard though
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>>183530554
More like:
Ozzy
Drake
Achilles
Iskandar
Quetz
Perseus
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>>183530698
Easy on the inferiority complex, bro.
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>>183530356
The strongest shown so far, She can't be summoned normally though so it doesn't matter; Nasu's usual stuff.
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>>183530229
But Ufotable Cafe uses always the cast from F/Z for its events since they are more popular among secondaries.
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>>183530356
Anybody who read Babylonia would know she reigns at the top of the Rider class' powerlevels.
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>>183530764
>Drake stronger than Achilles and Quetz
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>>183523662
26
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>>183530257
goddess divine core is the same as divinity though
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>>183530764
Drake literally can't even touch Achilles
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>>183530356
A literal God. Is pretty clear she is at least in the top 5 strongest servants to his day
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>>183523662
11
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Does Perseus have Divinity? For some reason Fate tends to treat him as a favourite of the gods, not Zeus's son.
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>>183529219
Sounds like something in modes ballpark.
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>>183530939
That's an issue of compatibility. EMIYA having a good matchup against Gilgamesh doesn't make him better than Gilgamesh overall.
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>>183530764
I can buy that Drake would be above Perseus, because frankly Perseus' toolkit is mostly crap against anything not named Medusa, and Medusa's still got Perseus' best stuff and even more good tricks on top of that, but I'd doubt she'd come out ahead of anybody else you listed.
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>>183522871
>Altera under Liz after Extella release and how much it shilled her as one of the main 3 routes
RIP.
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>>183530939
>Pioneer of the Stars EX
Makes the impossible possible
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>>183530554
Quetz has a NP to counter Ozzy's, and her physical feats are the best ones by far. When it comes to foot-speed and skill at close combat, Achilles is superior.

About Riding itself, Quetz lack feats to know how good she is, but she has EX-rank, so again, she could take that one as well. In fact, I think she and Violet are the only Servants with Ex-riding but they have never shown them fighting using that skill so far in any story.
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>>183530836
The female characters in F/Z might as well not exist to the fans of it. Ryougi has the strength of being a protagonist in her story.
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>>183530573
>A foreigner who thinks he's hot shit,
Just like ORT
>demands free stuff
Just like ORT
>and throws a violent shitfit that destroys his neighborhood when he doesn't get his way.
Exactly like ORT.

>ORT is an invader that paints the earth world into an alien planet.
>The iron pole in Berserker's hands was being tainted in black.

>The starting point was Berserker's two hands. The black lines were spreading on the entire pole like a spider's web from where the black gauntlets are holding it.
>Well, thankfully ORT's a good-for-nothing spider

>By just him being there, the Earth is changing to the environment he lived in. That is, the rewriting of physical laws, a leaking of his "alien order/system".
>The twin turbofan engine, receiving Berserker's alien power, gave off a monstrous roar.
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>>183531183
To be fair Liz was alright in Extella. It made me like her more.
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>>183531052
I'm not sure about that. Top five is a tough spot to make, even excluding Grands. The Indian servants alone occupy a good chunk of the top ten. Top five is probably something like (in no particular order and excluding Grands):
Gil
Karna
Herc
Saber (with all of her stuff)
Cu Alter
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>>183530729
>So SUPREME that it took a shot from an unstoppable Beast opposed to all life on Earth to kill him, while the so-called INVINCIBLE went down at the hands of King Arthur's secretary
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUG
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>>183531390
>Karna and not Enkidu
>Cushitter
Fuck off
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>>183528310
She got her ass kicked easily. What else was there to admire?
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>>183531357
>Black things are now an alien planet
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>>183531357
>Columbus is a foreigner who demands free stuff and destroys the neighborhood
Damn, he was the real ORT this entire time
Really makes you think
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>>183531390
Don't forget that we also have the High Servants and BB. Protea, Melt, Lip, and BB at their prime could be as useful and powerful as a Grand.
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>>183531196
>>183530764
>Drakefags are actually this retarded
Not surprised. Call me again when Drake can dry the fucking sea like Quetz can
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>>183531324
Quetz rides a pterosaur according to her profile.
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>>183531502
I admittedly forgot Enkidu and only included Cu Alter because no one else came to mind. Karna definitely gets top five going by his feats, especially in Extella where he's still nerfed. If I'd remembered someone else, I wouldn't have used an Alter at all.
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>>183531196
Is there even a single instance of that helping her out in any way? Because I'm pretty sure it didn't do anything to save her from getting fucked up in Extra. And most of the heavy lifting in Okeanos was done by other people than her since she couldn't do jack or shit on her own.
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>>183531163
She is easily above DUDE because it's Entire Fleet of Ships>Dude Army, Achilles is a meme and her Pioneer of the stars makes it possible to hit him. You guys underestimate Drake because she isn't good in gameplay but lorewise she is a top tier Rider.
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>>183530639
Ozzy literally uses it against two people in Fragments.
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>>183531608
I purposely left them out because, like Grands, they're different than regular servants. And it just goes to show how rough the contention for top five is.
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>>183531778
Then explain how nerfed EMIYA could beat her
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>>183531704
I meant to show their Ex-riding skills in the story. We can just see Quetz riding stuff in combat but just as gameplay as of now.
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>eating cereals with milk
Water is good enough, milk is very bad for body.
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Can someone post quick CE leveling guide pic ? i forgot to save it :(
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>>183531982
>eating cereals with water

What the fuck is wrong with you
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>>183531879
He's an oc donut steel with huge amounts of plot armor even in F/sn.
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>>183531879
Same way broken EMIYA defeated Gawain
Red man always finds a way
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>>183528802
Later it clarifies is technology, you know tieing in with Gate of Babylon concept. I actually have Gil in NA and have him at bond 5.
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>>183531982
Water goes better with oatmeal anyways.
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>not eating cereals with orange juice
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>>183531879
The same reason Emiya could beat Arcueid, he was the main characters servant. Liz even could beat Origin Gilgamesh in CCC.
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>>183531459
>so INVINCIBLE he killed something that an """""unstoppable"""""" Beast couldn't kill
HOLY SHIT HOW CAN ANYONE ALLOW THIS?
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>>183531778
She's good, anon, but beating Achilles and Quetz is out of her range.
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>>183529429
Gil actually becomes an underworld god in some versions of his epic actually. He hangs around with ghost Enkidu.
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I eat my cereal dry.
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>>183532076
This is what was taught to me.
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>>183531982
Here's you're (You), filthy animal.
>you're not wrong.
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>>183531390
>Gil
Wrong, he thinks he is strong but he is not.
>Saber (with all of her stuff)
Lancelot is still stronger.
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>Not eating cereal with the blood of young virgin maidens
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>>183531735
The ability makes it possible but not certain.
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>>183532418
Fuck off, Carmilla
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>>183530373
>ORT which is why he has a NP similar to Crystal Valley.
That's canonically Marie. French revolutionaries can kill TYPES, discuss.
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>>183531879
Nasu says it best, "As long as Shinji was her master, winning wasn't ever going to happen". Another guy at TM also said Drake would have been a likely candidate to win the war, if not for that.

She's a pinoneer of the stats who can make anything possible, but she gets revved up more facing a stronger enemy. Its said in mats that protag nobody failed to rev her motor up much. Her power level is also dependent upon money, resources. The more rich her master is the more she can get fired up. But in Extra she was regulated to just playing the part of a bit piece villain, which Drake herself lampshaded a few times. Ever since she first saw her master she made comments about how they were just going to end up playing the role of a villain. Her final lines to Shinji were that a villain only meets a miserable death in the end. As long as Shinji was her master she was bound to lose either way.

FGO is the heroic Drake, she's a women who goes both ways depending on who's paying her tab.
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>>183531778
>beaten by a nameless nobody with a limp
>beaten by a fighter so weakshit she only for to be a Saber because of self-delusion
>beaten by a Caster who held back
>outmaneuvered and overpowered by Blackbeard until (You) did everything
>stated to be the most easily overwritten of the servants in Agartha
Her Pioneer of the Stars and EX-rank luck have literally not ever been good for anything other than getting you to do all the work for her in Okeanos. She's not beating Achilles.
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>>183530756
>>183530806
>>183530857
>waifushitters being this delusional
Quetzaltrash can't handle Ozymandias and Dendera alone would be enough to rape her stupid ass.

>NP is only A
HILARIOUS
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>>183532509
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>>183531390
The servant Quetz we know is just a little portion of the actual Quetzalcoatl, nerfed to fir in a servant recipient. Her real power is probably at Gil's level
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Reminder that Drake has Luck EX and Pioneer of the Stars EX.
She basically has protagonist powers like servant Kiritsugu.
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Please don't bully.
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>>183532714
Shinji confirmed Anti-Protagonist.
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Reminder that Quetz has another NP that she doesn't use in FGO
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>My face when the lore argument jerking session is happening again

Can we just post supports or something
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>>183532614
>NP is only A
It's EX.
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>>183532614
Remind me what Ozy did against Tiamat again? Owait
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>>183532573
>beaten by a nameless nobody with a limp
>beaten by a fighter so weakshit she only for to be a Saber because of self-delusion
>beaten by a Caster who held back
Those don't count because it's Extra and Drake isn't one of the main characters servants

>outmaneuvered and overpowered by Blackbeard until (You) did everything
Wasn't she a normal human in Okeanos?

>stated to be the most easily overwritten of the servants in Agartha
Wasn't even her
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>>183532780
I mean, yeah. Shinji is a shitter.
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>>183531373
I mean that the high peak popularity for Extella was the release month and the month after which was when the survey was taken. It doesn't have FGO characters excuses of people not clearing the game until April that we know thanks to Shiokawa, this was taken at height Extella popularity (that's why Hakuno is placed so high) and yet Altera couldn't beat Liz even if it was the game that focused on her background and she had a fucking route.
I knew she wasn't very popular, but it hurts to know this. She didn't even made it to top 20 female characters when fucking Alice of Mahoyo did.
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>>183531390
Top 5 strongest Servants
1. Edmond Dantes
2. Ozymandias
3. Lancelot Berserker/Alcides
5. LoD Vlad
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Event with skill cookies when
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>managed to harm a beast that shouldn't be harmed, etc
Nasu wank>Sakurai wank
Easy PZ melvin
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>>183532752
i cant understand why anyone would do this to himself
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>>183532781
>literal global storm powers
Unbeatable
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>>183532781
So she's basically Storm from the X-Men riding a flying dinosaur?
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what skill order should I go for for tamamo lancer? I'm wary of levelling her charm because it has cuck properties.
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>>183532509
>battle against TYPES collab
>Sanson NP can one shot them
His time to shine!
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>>183532614
>Tfw rolled Ozzy on Drake's gacha when I wanted her
I still want her, but after playing with him for a while...
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>>183533104
every servant with charm and half of the servants with taunt CONFIRMED KEKBAIT
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>>183533120
>tfw rolled two Ozys and three Karnas on White Day
>All I wanted was Arthur
I'm still mad.
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>>183532781
Wait, so dinosaurs and the like are naturally OP in the Nasuverse? Phantasmal Beast tier even?
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>>183533104
1>2> 3 or 1>3>2
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>>183532834
It's A, both of them. If you are using the irrelevant NP stat, see how well that went for Arjuna KEK

>>183532860
>Shitmat
>relevant
That bitch was only allowed to be born because Giltrash was shit as usual, Ozzy wouldn't even have let that bitch appear.
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>>183532871
>Wasn't even her
But it was? Sche got her to Agartha and altered her to the point where she thought she was Dahut. Dahut herself could not be summoned, so Sche settled for remodeling Drake. And Sche said Drake was the one servant most easily changed out of the ones who'd arrived in the singularity.
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>>183532614
Honestly, it looks like Quetz was created to be superior or the perfect counter to Ozzy. Just look at the rank of their skills and their parameters, how useful Quetz's NPs are against Ozzy's, and the fact that Piedra del Sol is very powerful when she isn't even at her prime.
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HOW CAN I BEAT THE NEW CHALLENGE QUEST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183532934
If you mean Quetz, she didn't. The one who harmed the Beast was King Hassan when he took her wings.
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>>183533250
>allowed to be born
Confirmed for not even reading Babylon.
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>>183532781
>rank A
So it's fucking shit then
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>>183533316
Honestly Quetz shouldn't even count for powerlevel arguments since she's a literal god.
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>>183532213
>So SUPREME that he can decide on a whim to steal skills that belong to world-ending beasts and break every rule his world has laid down
>All VINCIBLE can steal is weapons
BY GOD, MAN, IT'S UNFAIR. WHAT CRUEL GOD WOULD MAKE SOMEBODY AS SUPREME A BEING AS GILGAMESH
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>>183532752
What the fuck.
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>>183533389
boar killer+mashu+merlin
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>>183533250
>jetfag with no arguments but shitposting
Sad to see you shit on Ozy too
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>>183533316
As long as Ozy has his temple, he's superior to Quetz.
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>>183533221
We were cucked away from our waifus
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>>183533312
Who else did she even change though? The other was Herakles that literally has skills to resist mental influence. Helena never got changed at all.
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>>183532108
>Same way broken EMIYA defeated Gawain
Gawain without Numeral is trash so that's not a good feat unless you beat him in 1 hit like Lancelot.
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>>183533316
Nasu did it on purpose, that's why he used Edison earlier and took control of Babylon for a bit.
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>>183533495
EX divinity
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>>183533495
except Quetz hard counters Ozzy's temple and anything decent inside it, including the sphinxes and shit
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>>183533312
Sche had her power boosted by Phenex to be fair. Even if was her idea.
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C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D
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>>183533565
>>183533250
You could at least pretend you aren't just Jetfag shitposting through this conversation the entire time. People might at least pretend to have a decent conversation without you.
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>>183533120
I rolled two (2) Quetz when I wanted literally any other Rider
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>>183533565
Didn't Extra state pretty strongly that even without Numeral Gawain was the strongest enemy Hakuno had fought until that point? Which would include the likes of Lu Bu, Cu, fucking Arcueid, Li Shuwen and Sad Vlad?
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>>183532509
Care to explain me why Marie is considered the ORT of fate? In detail if possible
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>>183533395
>If you mean Quetz, she didn't.
She did. Tiamat just regenerated because they were on the surface and Tiamat still had her unkillable status.
I swear it's like you people skipped all the story and just paid attention to the HYPE XD part with King Hassan in the underworld because that's the only part of the chapter I ever see being mentioned here.
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What is quetz ranking in the survey?
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>>183533464
>he talks about no arguments when he made this post

>>183533409
It's a known fact all went to shit because Gil is incompetent as usual
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>>183533769
It's a dumb meme. Nothing else.
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>>183533495
One of her main NPs directly counters the temple
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>>183533674
But Karma is gay.
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>>183533769
Technically it's her hat, not Marie
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>>183533495
>Xiuhcoatl: A recreation of the flames which consumed Quetzalcoatl’s own temple, when he burned it down to prevent the evil Tezcatlipoca from acquiring its many treasures. Flames envelop the area, and enemies are prevented from invoking their Noble Phantasms for a time.
>Pedra del Sol: When used in the Babylonia Singularity, while retaining half of her Divinity, Quetzalcoatl's usage of this Noble Phantasm still managed to evaporate a majority of Tiamat's Chaos Tide. Ishtar speculates that had Quetzalcoatl used this on the city of Uruk, the entire city would have been vaporized.
>Better riding, charisma, divinity, and magic counter.
>Best physical feats and an Ex skill useful for close combat.
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>>183533438
I'm glad somebody finally found a good buzzword for Gilgamesh. Now Melvin has a friend to play with and might stop bothering us
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>>183533769
Her NP is based on ORT's power
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>>183533769
Nasu said he based her character and crystal palace shit on ORT and Crystal Valley.
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>>183533846
No he isnt
delete this
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>>183533718
>ad hominem
But of course the stupid gilcuck will rely on that when he has no argument, as we all know he writes stupid shit like pic related.

No wonder he think Cucktzalcoatl is good, fucking spic I swear.

>>183533751
>Which would include the likes of Lu Bu, Cu, fucking Arcueid, Li Shuwen and Sad Vlad?
All those are trash so I don't see your point.
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>>183534009
>Nasu said
[citation needed]
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>>183533674
>>183533832
Even the Hunger Games knows.
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>>183534057
>ad hominem
>stupid gilcuck
Thanks for the laugh cancer-kun
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>>183534075
Summer Marie in FGO mats. After Altera shit, I'm honestly expecting him to reveal Marie was ORT brain-all along.
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>>183533751
Dude, anyone that says Gawain is shit without Numeral is shitposting, you should know that by now. Even without Numeral he fought evenly with Karna and against high rank servants for the majority of Extella. Even without Numeral he tanked a hit from Rhon in Camelot, since it was directly pointed out Numeral didn't function within the throne room where he was attacked. In CCC event without Numeral he beat Vlad easily, he beat pillar demon imitations easily, held his own against Passionlip the entire time you were gone, held back Passionlip with EX rank strength for a few seconds, and was your main asset in for awhile helping to beat a lot of servants until he was killed.

Whenever you hear the phrase that he was shit without numeral, you know its just Jetfag shitposting like always. He's not even hiding it, he thinks if he just repeats something endlessly it'll be accepted.

Its like saying Arthuria is confirmed shit tier without Avalon. Avalon makes her stronger for sure, but she doesn't need it to be strong, she's still high tier without it.
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>>183534053
Is Brahmastra Kundala supposed to be the upgraded version? Astra or whatever?
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>>183533741
I also want to roll her. I'm in love with her beautiful smile.
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>>183534057
>stupid gilcuck

You're not very good at this
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>>183533596
>Dendera

>>183533613
>Quetz hard counters Ozzy's temple
She literally doesn't, shitposter. She gets wiped out by Dendera.

>>183533824
Her NP counters True Names for a while, he an easily keep up with Mesektet until that effect is down.

>>183533892
>Ishtar speculates that had Quetzalcoatl used this on the city of Uruk
Ozzy can BTFO Tokyo with just Mesektet.
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>>183534191
Summer servants aren't in materials yet. Try again.
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>>183533790
>implying anyone cares about the story and not only look at reddit summaries of parts they can shitpost about
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The real reason Ozzy is stronger than Quetz is that Ozzy is a cool GAR Husbando and Quetz is a shitty genderbent waifu
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Dendera gg lol
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>>183534284
>takes two hours to destroy a smaller city
>has no other big AOE that can otherwise besides Dendara lightbulb that's even weaker than EXcalibur
lmao
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>>183534246
Strictly speaking, the "official" upgraded version is Brahmashirshastra. Kundala serves the same purpose as an upgraded version of Brahmastra, but it's something Nasu made up.
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>>183534002
Quetz overpowering Ozzy Doujin when
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>>183533790
It's more like the 99% of people here are EOP me included
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>>183534173
>he doesn't know what adhominen is
OH BOY HE NEVER LEARNS DOES HE

>>183534257
>samefagging
Nice try Gilfag.
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>>183534248
I really like her shark teeth and wish she did it more often
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>>183534248
I want to make Quetza tap out in bed
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>>183533797
127th along with Irisviel, Archimedes, Mozart and others.
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>>183534057
so you have to attribute any argument against Ozzy as a Gilfag, nice to know you know you lost.
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>>183534515
Mathman when
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>>183534284
That was the nerfed version of Piedra del Sol though. Remeber that she was weakened. And again, Ozzy's temple biggest weakness are NPs like those of Quetz.

>Normally, this Noble Phantasm is the Sun Stone that is engraved with the Aztec calendar. However, Quetzalcoatl herself can become the sun, a legend where Quetzalcoatl was the Second Sun in Aztec Mythology. Upon activation, it creates a gigantic source of heat, unleashing powerful solar winds from it

No need to argue anymore. Quetz is just that powerful.
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Why is this Melvin so bad at shitposting?
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the next year (2018) DW will rerun again the summer event (2016) right? I can try roll tamamo lancer and archuria the next year, right?
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>>183534602
Because imitations can't surpass the original.
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>>183534708
maybe
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>>183534587
>become the literal sun
First servant that can compete with DBZ characters. Period.
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>>183534708
They can always run gachas with the servants in them without doing the event.
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>>183534708
only the gacha
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>>183534371
Ozzy Temple walls are so resistant the average Anti Army NP literally bounces back from them, and an average Anti Army NP is B+ Gae Bolg. With all her NPs at A rank, the whore known as Quetzaltrash isn't going to do much better.

The Temple also has Anti Purge properties like Enkidu's Enuma Elish. Also the immortality even a GRAND SERVANT couldn't bypass. Have fun with all that + Mesektet.
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>>183534708
Most likely, yeah.
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>>183534708
It could be. They also can put gacha without event.
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Limited SRs are suffering
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>All this cool ass lore about Quetzalcoatl
>fgo decided to go with lucha gimmick
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Where is Mashu taking you?
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>>183534587
>Upon activation, it creates a gigantic source of heat, unleashing powerful solar winds from it
Dendera is Solar Flare tier and as we saw in Camelot, the EX Dio attack is even stronger than that.
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Apocrypha might not have been the best story, but I think if they had adapted it by the book it would have been at least good kinda or something. It would have been passable. Kinda like the manga, the manga so far has been good.

But the anime can't even do that much, its changing things in pretty strange ways. Jeanne was there for Seigfried dying, so now she doesn't go to Black camp and show her ideals, have a religion conversation with Vlad, and act as a proper Ruler at all during the contest now. The scene with Vlad was one of her most important scenes character wise. Now she also doesn't go searching for Seig either, this creates a lot of oddities.

Achilles takes one hit from Chiron, and decides to get the fuck out of there instantly.
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I haven't even started summer part 2 yet
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>>183535079
Hopefully she's taking me out of this hell
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>>183534913
Her NP is cool though
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>>183534913
Whers is that pic from?
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>>183535079
gensokyo
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>>183534913
gib full image
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>>183534215
Even without Numeral, he lost in one single fucking hit against Lancelot. Wow, so strong, clearly a top servant. Oh wait, he wasn't called that in Extella because he fucking sucks and only reaches top Servant status for 6 hours out of 24.
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>>183535262
I hope so. I want to meet moot.
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>>183535079
That's not (You)
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>>183535079
I want to fug Mashu
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>>183535414
That fugly Scat. At least Musashi looks decent, but somehow Quetz is the best part of that image. What went wrong?
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How strong is the edgeman in a normal HGW? for example the 4th one of zero
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>>183535414
I like it
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>>183535597
stronk
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>>183534357
The reason why Ozzy is stronger is because her shitty A rank NPs can't even get past the walls of the temple and her strongest NP is still weaker than the Solar Flare tier Dendera.
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>>183535141
>NP5 Martha
jel-
>Kiarashit
Fuck off.
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>>183535389
Literally who?
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>>183535597
He could solo the 4th war
Gil isn't worth shit
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>>183535597
Pretty strong, probably could win in the 4th one.
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>>183535597
He would give Kerry the revenge against evil he deserves
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>>183535672
>faggot is mad he couldn't roll Kiara
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>Ozzyfags are the neo gilfags
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>>183535660
Her second NP literally lets her become the sun when it isn't nerfed, Dendera can't compare
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>>183531982
>milk is very bad for body
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>>183535846
>implying I spent even a single quartz on her tacky ass
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>>183534913
>Cool ass Quetzalcoatl in Fate
>/fgog/ only bitches about it constantly and says Lucha is wrong and bad.
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>>183535846
Not him, but I would prefer a NP 3 Nito and obviously a NP 5 Ruler Martha over Kiara.
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>>183535846
>you're just mad you couldn't roll scat
>you're just mad you couldn't roll jeanne alter
>you're just mad you couldn't roll kiara
I sense a pattern here.
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>>183535597
What will happen if this hooded edgeman summoned this french edgeman?
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>>183535876
Ozymandias could handle 5 top tiers by himself. Ozymandias was so strong the Lion King had to wait for Lancelot before going to invade his Temple. Ozymandias could handle the attack from a Grand Servant without actually dying.

Gilgamesh lost to a human and got raped by Lancelot in Accel Zero.
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>>183536010
That you have anger issues?
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>>183535962
yeah
rip anon
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>>183535918
Forget it, son. He isn't gonna stop. He is just shitposting.
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>>183535965
Lucha gimmick is fine but they could at least give her a normal moveset/NP
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>>183534913

> Piledriving everything so hard they catch fire like meteorites entering the atmosphere at high speed.
>Not cool as shit.

Bitch please.
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>>183536010
I don't get why Kiarafags think their whore is some highly desired Servant.
At least Scat and Jeannefags have a basis for that statement.
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>>183535660
>NP is a literal conceptial counter against temples
>EX divinity (goddess core)
>Close quarter combat that counters divine beasts and others EX
>can fly
hmm, seems like Nasu tried to screw over someone here.
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>>183536076
He would get his soul burned for attempting to take Tokiomi's wife and family.
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>>183535597
He can solo the 4th war under optimal conditions, mostly hinging on whether or not he gets the jump on Gil with Enfer Chateau d'If. Iskander and Gilles might be trouble too if they get their respective NPs out; Edgemond doesn't really have a proper response against the giant sea demon.
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>>183536076
>burns zouken's soul
>saves and heals both sakura and kariya
>helps kariya have a glorious revenge against tokiomi
>wins the rest of the war by himself
It's the perfect outcome.
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>>183536261
But it was Tokiomi that took everything from him and then fucked it up anyway
>>
Aoi was a dumb whore and Kariya being hung up on her was his problem. Urobuchi even says she was probably twisted like Tokiomi.
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>>183536163
Way I see it, Quetz is one of those cases where she's got such a huge advantage against most enemies that she does whatever the hell she wants for fun.
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>>183535918
>Upon activation, it creates a gigantic source of heat, unleashing powerful solar winds from it
Nice """""sun"""""" you have there faggot.

Solar Flare > Solar """"Wind"""""

>>183536139
>samefagging
Epic
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>>183536312
>Edgemond doesn't really have a proper response against the giant sea demon.
Can't he just burn its soul? Or get inside the demon and beat the shit out of Gilles or something
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>>183536076
how would he be summoned in a standard Fuyuki HGW? He is
1. An Avenger
2. A Fictional character
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>>183536370
>took everything from him

He didn't take anything from him. Aoi just loved Tokiomi instead of the Matou betacuck.
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>>183536527
>magus """"""love""""""
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>183536317
Nice headcanon, now see >>183536261

>>183536370
Tokiomi didn't take shit from anybody, Kariya was a slow cuck and Tokiomi ended up getting the girl.
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>>183536509
The 4th HGW was already modified into summoning Avengers anyway
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>>183536527
>Aoi just loved Tokiomi
Not really.
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>>183535672
Better?
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>>183536639
You mean the 3rd
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>>183536085
>Brynhild, Paracelsus, and Serenity
>top tier
Not saying that any of them aren't impressive enough on their own, but I will say that none of them make it into the upper crust of their respective class. Even Arash is iffy, since he's competing against the likes of Gilgamesh, Arjuna, Tesla, and the Emiyas.
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where the fuck are drawfags when you need a good picture of the seigi no mikata squad? Emiyas and Siegfried.
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>>183536639
but what would they use as a catalyst to summon a fictional character?
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>>183536453
I haven't read the translated Babylonia, but what do Merlin and King Hassan think of the goddesses? Are the Grand Servants more powerful than them? Just read that KH and Quetz had to sacrifice part of their powers to deal with Tiamat.
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>>183536576
>>183536689
Call it whatever you want but Aoi chose Tokiomi herself. She didn't love Kariya.
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>>183536694
Fuck off ressit.
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>>183536423
CHRIST IT'S LITTERALLY WRITE ITSELF

>Both cucked out of the woman they love by circumstances beyond their control
>Both subject to torturous conditions for an extended period of time in which they become obsessed with revenge and fundamentally change as men
>Both loosely held back from going totally evil by a daughteru figure

>>183536261
Tokiomi pls. You sent your daugther into worm rape and you knew what's going on

>>183536423
Seriously this. he should tried to find a better waifu
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>>183536694
>Quetzalcoatl
>Nitotits
>Altera
Great taste anon
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>>183536746
Dantes isn't fictional in Nasuverse.
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Remind me again why Saber didn't get along with Kiritsugu?
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>>183536923
muh honor
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>>183536813
She didn't love anyone. She's a fucking robot whose life goal is all muh bloodline muh lineage
Literal subhuman
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>>183536746
Dantes has already been said to not be fictional. Although Durmas indicates in SFS that he basically got rich stealing some guy's life story, and when Dantes came to get revenge on him, he disgustedly walked away seeing the gaudy house he built.

Dantes was a real guy in Fate, he killed Roa.
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>>183536923
They were both too perfect for the world that the world itself did not understand them.
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Zeus when?
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>>183536694
About the same really, in my humble opinion
Okita>Altera
Ishtar>Arjuna
Quetz>Drake but only barely
Shuten=King Hassan
MHXA>Mama unless you're going for gameplay
and obviously Jeanne>Kiara
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>>183536923
muh chivalry
muh honor
lemme fight Lancer, mastah
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>>183536746
His own desire for revenge, also >>183536830
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>>183537041
He isn't benevolent enough, he's kind of a prick really, Thor could probably get in.
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>>183536248
>NP is a literal conceptial counter against temples
Nice headcanon, I guess KoH allows Lancelot to beat everyone who has a sword if he grabs an elm branch.
>EX divinity (goddess core)
Yeah so only the NP block is out of the picture, still needs to deal with the Anti Anti-Army Walls, Anti Purge, Dendera, Immortality and Mesektet.
>Close quarter combat that counters divine beasts and others EX
Now try IMMORTAL beasts
>can fly
How is that going to help her win?

>>183536830
>Both cucked out of the woman they love by circumstances beyond their control
Except Kariya is the one who wants to cuck. No, that piece of trash would get destroyed by Dantes, not helped. There is no pity for such piece of shit.
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>>183536923
Kerry and Saber Alter would have been the perfect duo. I'm pretty sure it's confirmed canon that Kerry eats like shit, so the two of them could just go to the McDonalds and eat shitty fast food.

They could work on some sort of weird magitech detonators that let you transfer the power from Mana Burst to an explosion, and drive off into the night on a motorcycle while blowing up hotels behind them with magic bombs.
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>>183537049
Good taste, except for
>but only barely
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>>183537201
Fuck off Tokiomi
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>>183536503
>Demon
>Soul
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>>183537041

He'd try to fuck everything female in Chaldea.
Like a Fergus on crack, cuckposters would have a field day.
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>>183537201
>>183536248
>>183536261
And the shitposting continues.
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>>183537189
Zeus could be a good entry to give us Archer Heracles
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>>183536746
>Anon tries to look for an out to say it can't work
>"Well he's a fictional character so he can't be a servant, you wouldn't have a catalyst"
>Completely loses

No shit you'd just use his book as a catalyst
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Le bone of my sword xD
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>>183537108
>Kariyacucks believe Dantes will help him cuck another man and screw their lives over
Yeah he would totally help someone qho wants to do do to Tokiomi what was done to him.
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Give summer Gil.
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>>183537241
>Saber Alter and Kerry wrecking shit together
That would have been fun.
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>>183537201
>Kariya found out Zouken plan for any kind of heir from him
>Kariya willingly stopped trying to get Aoi and left to protect her from Zouken
>he returned years after, she already engaged to Tokiomi
>Kariya gave up on her because she seemed to be ok with Tokiomi and it's better than Zouken
>Tokiomi threw Aoi daugther into worms rape
>TOKIOMI KNEW ABOUT IT AND DID IT ANYWAY

And then people wonder why Kariya is mad on him
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>>183536923
What's the point of having a whole kingdom if you're not spreading the burden out as much as possible instead of putting everything on draining one village at a time? I mean, if the invaders are out to get 11 villages and you're only racing one of them to prepare your army, what's even the point of being lord over the other 10? If all 11 villages are at peril then 10 of them should not do nothing to defend themsleves. That's just suicidal. And if the invaders could be defeated without them posing a threat to 10 out of 11 villages, why not still just get some resources from the 10 safe villages instead of ruining the 11th village by letting it co tribute everything on its own? That way you would still have 11 villages instead of 10.
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Question Apofags, wasn't Siegfried supposed to say that he wanted to become an ally of justice at the end of episode 4?
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KING
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Is it write too like Kiara?
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>>183537418
>Dantes take one second to look at Sakura
>ask Kariya
>Kariya explain
>MUH REVENGE

There. now fuck off to BL Tokiomishitter
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>Tokiomi isn't a monster that needs to be put down
I love this meme
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>>183537589
That's none of his problem, Dantes could initially help Kariya indeed but would instantly burn his soul when he sees Kariya true feelings and intentions.

It's good that he didn't summon Saber Lancelot either, because he would have killed Kariya too.
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Should i bother leveling Marie? I got her up to NP3 last year but i never used her.

>>183537049
Thanks for your feedback
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>>183537743
Tokiomi did literally nothing wrong though.
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>>183537749
>It's good that he didn't summon Saber Lancelot either, because he would have killed Kariya too.
True, just not on purpose.
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>>183536708
If the 3rd was modified then the modification would carry over to the 4th too, right?
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>>183537598
That's a lot of assumptions.
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>>183537797
Don't you have some old men to please, Rin?
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>>183537797
Tokiomi gave his daughter away to a monster because he didn't want to have "competition" between two sisters and then never once cared to see her afterwards.

Kariya was a fucking idiot but at least his heart was in the right place before it stopped beating.
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>>183537749
>he would have killed Kariya too
He's so autistic that he would've killed himself by falling on his bent sword 50 times
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>>183537307
Why is Taiga so cute?
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>>183537797
The only people who believe that are
>Aoi, who is as much of a monster as he is
>Kirei, WHO IS AS MUCH OF A MONSTER AS HE IS
>Zouken, who is a literal dickworm monster imitating a person whose true will and hopes burned out decades ago and wouldn't even be recognized by the man he once was
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Tokiomifags are insane.

>post yfw you saw his stupid face when he died
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>>183537739
>MUH REVENGE
>along the way he discovers Kariya true intentions like Kotomine
>it's actually MUH KEKING
It's hilarious if you don't think Dantes would crush Kariya if he knew the retard choked Aoi.
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>>183537749
>Kariya summons Saber Lancelot
>decides to go for Aoi
>Lancelot ends up fucking Aoi
>freezes up and jobs to Arturia
imashine
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>>183537875
>wanting to reach the Root is a bad thing

Muggles get out
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>>183536729
Let's be real, the vast majority of heroic spirits are low tier in the Nasuverse's scheme of things.
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>>183537602
I noticed that too, I think he didn't say seigi no mikata once in the entire episode.
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>>183537875
>gave his daughter away to a monster
He doesn't know about Matou's way of training.
>"competition" between two sisters and then never once cared to see her afterwards
He feared that the Association will just take the other girl from him to research.
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>>183537846
nice meme, Tokiomi did nothing wrong.
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>>183537812
>not on purpose.
Entirely on purpose.

>“I am a sword. For as long as your path is righteous, this blade shall not be pointed towards you.”
> For as long as your path is righteous
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>>183538017
>He doesn't know about Matou's way of training.
He actually knew the basic idea, he just didn't care.
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>>183538056
[citation needed]
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>>183537993
Wanting to reach the Root is fine. Giving your daughter away to a literal monster in every definition of the word and then carrying on your life as if nothing is wrong is pretty fucked up. Magi are all backwards.

>>183538017
Even supposing he doesn't know what their training is when he gives Sakura to them, what the fuck did he think happened to Kariya when they met during the War? That Kariya willingly fucked his entire body up just for kicks with zero aid from Zouken in doing it? That those bugs he summoned just happened of their own accord?
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My goodnes, this thread is horrendous. Somene start baking the next one. Don't care if it's too early.
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>>183537937
>made Rin an emotional autist incapable of caring about others, left her alone to fight a war on her own at a young age
>gave Sakura to one of the most awful people on the planet so that she can get raped for the next decade
FUCK TOKIOMI
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>>183537980
>>183537883
Gilcuck samefagging shitposter, see >>183538051

Lancelot would have killed Kariya long before even Gilles used Chtulu.
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>>183538169
at least we don't have braindamage here
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>>183538169
How is it bad?
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>>183538189
They deserved it for being cheap waifubait.
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>>183538169
Fuck off waifucuck
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>>183537875
>he didn't want to have "competition" between two sisters
Literally the opposite. If they fought and killed each other he'd be cool with it so long as it got at least one of them closer to winning the Grailbowl.
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>>183538189
He was a good magus.
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>>183538248
he is falseflagging
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>>183537812
>>183537883
>>183537749
>>183537980
>Kariyacucks are actually giltards trying to make Lancelot look bad
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA FUCKING EXPOSED THEMSELVES AGAIN OH GOD.
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>>183538331
Magi are subhuman.
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>>183537939
Except if he had Dantes as his Servant and not a Berserker literally incapable of coherent thought beyond "muh kang" he wouldn't have choked Aoi to begin with. He likely wouldn't have even spoke to Kotomine.
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>>183538189
> emotional autist incapable of caring about others
>literally saves Shirou in the first night because she feels bad about him and Sakura

u wot
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>>183537939
Would Dantes rescue Kayneth?
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>>183538134
That French interview with Uro. Tokiomi also thought that "Sakura could handle Zouken" somehow if need be. Horrible judge of character, he is.
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>>183534248
The smile that captivated a civilization.
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>>183522871
Top 51-99 (Fate)
51. Siegfried, Tamamo Cat, Bazett, Lancelot.
55. Illya (Prisma), Semiramis, Tokiomi
58. BB, Karen, Kuro, Raikou.
62. Gawain and Cu Alter
64. Cu Caster, Nightingale, Meltlilith and Koujiro
70. Vlad III, Marie Antoniette, (YOU).
73. Helena, David, Manaka, Ayaka, Kariya and Musashi.
79. Caster Gil, Jekyll and Hyde and Nobunaga
82. Chev(*), Nitocris, Boudica, Frankenstein, Shirou (prisma), Hector and Ushi.
89. Asterios, Gilles, Jason, Darius III, Mephistopheles, Drake, Ko Gil, Ibaraki, Shuten and Cursed Arm Hassan

100th is a lot of characters, so I won't bother.
(*) I committed a mistake in my FGO debut ranking,
19) Caster Gil
20) Chev
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>>183538356
>Had to find a new target because he couldn't stand up to the power of a SUPREME BEING
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get em
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>>183538207
His main purpose is to save Sakura, not just fuck over Tokiomi and fuck Aoi. Of course retarded jetkek wouldn't know.
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>>183538380
>requires based Shirou to regain her emotions and capability of caring about her sister again
Best boy. Undoing Tokiomi's bullshit.
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>>183538380
>autist saves another autist
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>>183538056
>>183538017
>He didn't know
>No he only knew the basics

Both wrong, hew knew it all

>TMF : Did Tokiomi know what Sakura was going through after she was adopted by the MAT?
>U : What is important for Tokiomi is not filiation but the magical progression in his family. So he is conscious of having literally thrown his daughter away. >One can imagine that Tokiomi thinks that, through his dear daughter, he will arrive to have superior thaumaturgical powers.

>Tokiomi knew what Sakura was going to undergo but for him, it would allow him to become a real mage. As long as it increases the thaumaturgical potential of his family, he had no problem with the Sakura treatments in MATŌ. However, had he known the fate of Sakura, being a matrix for Zōken, he would have refused. He also imagined that if things went too far, Sakura could of itself stop Zōken. Unconsciously, even if he had never said so, the battle between >Sakura and Rin at the end of Heaven's Feel was for him the best thing that could happen to the TŌSAKA.
>Aoi, on the other hand, knew nothing.

There are F/Z mats that directly say if Rin knew her father's real character then she would grow up miserable. The guy was heartless, he was the typical evil magus at heart. He doesn't care what he has to sacrifice to get his goals, he only married Aoi to produce superior heirs. His ideal is both sisters fighting to the death over the grail.
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>>183538365
Except Kariya would have done the exact same because he choked Aoi when she complained about Kariya killing Tokiomi.

>>183538453
>literally didn't read the novel
Kariya was exposed by Kirei and Gilgakek.
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>>183537939
>Braindamaged guy from worms, torture, suffering and breaking down that he got A MONTH to live.
>dominate the mana drain from Berserker Lancelot, the most ineffcient servant ever, even Karna is better
>suffer from unbelivable pain from the worms and the mana drain, still keeping up
>manage to dominate his will to kek up Gil twice instead of REEEE'ing on Arturia
>got burned almost to death
>got tortured even more, the whole "lmao it's the worm who took Sakura virginity you just eated" that broke him up into tears
>still keeping up
>find Tokiomi is dead, tried to explain to Aoi it isn't him
>too braindamaged for explaining himself
>she blame him for Sakura and Tokiomi
>she tells how he never loved anyone and break his mind
>fit of despair, rage and insanity, he choke Aoi
>instantly realized what he has done and regret it, instead of spitting on her body
>still trying to save Sakura
>even with his body breaking down and in the middle of a fucking fire, he manage to crawl into the Matou house
>drag himself to unshackle Sakura in the sea of worms
>died while trying

Kariya did nothing wrong.
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>>183534913
But Luchadors are the coolest though.
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>>183538453
>His main purpose is to save Sakura

I always thought that was an excuse. He wanted to save Sakura because he thought Aoi would love him if he did.
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>>183538169
How is it bad? The Quetz vs Ozy batlle and the "what if Dantes ..." are alright topics
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>>183538625
That wouldn't happen if he had a Servant that didn't make him suffer. He was driven beyond insane.
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>>183538401
she is too hot, figuratively and literally, too bad artists don't take too much advantage of her gorgeous, tall, and fit body
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>>183538668
Kariya wasn't a completely hopeless person, but he was deluded and selfish. He wanted Sakura to be saved, but for her to be saved BY HIM.
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>>183538668
>delusional
>shot of him saying he has the strongest Servant that Jets loves to post
wew
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>>183538430
>>183522871
>not even Top 100
With Presence Concealment this high, maybe she can qualify for the Assassin class.
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>>183538625
If Kariya doesn't go to the Church like Kotomine tells him to then he's never in the same room as a dead Tokiomi and an alive Aoi, he never has his mental breakdown and he never chokes her the fuck out.

How the fuck is this difficult to understand? Are you retarded?
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>>183538754
>He wanted Sakura to be saved, but for her to be saved BY HIM.
[CITATION NEEDED]
Who the fuck else would've done it? You think he has someone else to turn to?
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>>183538668
Read the novel and yeah, basically. He wanted to be around Aoi, but felt awkward when he was with her, so he turned to interacting with her kids to fill the void. Rin and Sakura were always just replacements for the joy that being with Aoi gave him.
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>>183538694
Nice headcanon
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>>183538668
>>183538625
He literally entered the war because of Sakura. Fucking Aoi is just a bonus.
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>>183538430
Reminder that BB hast just 13 votes. 13.
Take that as you want.
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Biggest revenge the sisters can have against their dickass father is a threesome with Shirou.

>TMF : One last Fate / Zero question before moving on. How would Tokiomi react when he learned of his relationship with Rin in Unlimited Blade Works and Sakura in Heaven's Feel ? [Laughter]
>U : It is not impossible that he would have been green with rage because it would penalize his quest for magical power.

Don't confuse the fact that he has some power, to mean that he's super duper heir creator. Reality marbles aren't hereditary, its only a product of his mentality, any heir he creates would be a shit tier magus most likely. Tokiomi would be insane at the sisters fucking a shitter.
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>>183538754
Except he's fine with DUDE and everyone else saving them in Accel Zero?
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>>183538832
Accel Zero. The reason Iskandar sets up the whole "slave" thing with Sakura is to give Kariya a scenario where he manages to save Sakura, because he needed it to avoid literally going insane.
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>>183538430
Mama no
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>>183538754
Who the fuck else is he going to turn to for help? Of course he wants her saved by him, nobody gives a shit about her. Is he gonna walk up to Kerry and try to play nice? Have a sit down session with Ryunosuke and ask for a favor? Ask the young, inexperienced kid Waver for help?

Literally the only person he could rely on to actually do it was himself.
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>>183538360
They're superhuman.
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>>183538860
>>183538832
I will post the quote from the novel in 30 minutes, fucking gilcuck proving again he didn't read the novel.
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>Apocryfags
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>>183538846
>headcanon
>Berserker fighting drains him of prana at a ridiculous pace and causes him immense pain as the Crest Worms go spastic, has to keep him in spiritual form most of the time
>the worms that literally broke his spine, crippled him, and ate away at his brain
>but clearly Berserker had nothing to do with this at all
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>>183539049
Somebody keep an eye on BL, see if there's anybody begging for novel passages
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>>183538916
Is Tokiomi the most irredeemably evil person in Fate?
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>>183539035
>Is he gonna walk up to Kerry and try to play nice?
He never wanted the Grail.
Kerry is a Magus Killer.

Just tell Kerry, "Hey man, I've got this great Berserker here that can tag-team that Archer with your Saber. If we work together we can curbstomp the War. Just give me one of those contracts to make me kill my Servant when we're done, all you gotta do is kill this asshole worm vampire."

Done.
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>>183539035
Everywhere beside some autists on 4chan like the jetfag and BoysLove which is Tokiomiinfestation Kariya is pretty much "damn can this guy take a break already? he didn't deserved it"
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>>183539049
What's the purpose of your quotes if you have no reading comprehension whatsoever?
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>>183539217
If we're just talking about FSN then that's probably still Zouken.
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Speaking of the novels, anyone remembered this part?
>Lancealotofshit about to die
>Gil the strongest hero
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>>183538430
>64. Cu Caster, Nightingale, Meltlilith and Koujiro
3 of those were the main Servants in their respective Orders. Melt has some released and upcoming doujins, and a character song that beats Liz, Nero, and Tamamo's. Yet, they still end up placing in 64.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ31EvUlKTY
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>>183539217
Tsubaki's parent's in SF are almost on his level. But Magi in general are all cunts with few exceptions.
>>
Moving whenever.
>>183539364
>>183539364
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>>183539217
No, that's Shinji

Even Zouken had some amount of willingness to redeem himself at the very end. Shinji was just pure evil dick that tried killing hundreds of people without a care several times, and each time he was given a chance to realize his mistake he only recommitted to making the same mistake. At least Zouken was once a good man that rotted, but Shinji was just rot from the start.
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>>183539353
The poll was before the CCC event, it's surprising she placed that high considering Caster Cu's boost from First Order.
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>>183539269
>just walk up to a literal murderer and tell him you don't actually want that thing everyone is fighting for, then ask him for a favor
Kerry would have shot him in the head before he even got the first word out of his mouth. He has zero reason to trust Kariya.
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How come even just half the stuff Touko's done is still more impressive than the totality of feats attributed to any Caster lower than Grand?
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>>183539217
Kotomine.
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>>183539481
Magic contract bro.
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>>183539353
Why vote for Caster Cu when you can vote for the regular one, there isn't much difference personality wise.
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>>183539353
I dunno I'd say Nero's is about equal because it's pretty fucking good. Tamamo's is too but it doesn't sound like her unless you buy into the whole "this is the real her" bullshit
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>>183539595

I think it's mostly because of how he was in First Order. Guy had a really great showing there.

Makes me wish he was that good in gameplay as well.
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>>183539590
>magic contract
You mean the same kind of contract Kerry himself circumvented to kill Kayneth? Yeah I don't see him trusting that.
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>>183539504
Because Touko is a Grand :^)
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>>183539703
>3 of those were the main Servants in their respective Orders. Melt has some released
I meant that it beats the other songs in the sense that it is more popular. I have just read the lyrics of Melt's song because they are available in the comment section.
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>>183539703
>>183539876
Where can I find the lyrics for the other songs?
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>>183522871
>Shirou beating Rin by a decent margin

Wow. I mean, I agree, but she used to have a huge lead on him.
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