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/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>Got POW RIGHT IN THE KISSERed three times at once
>>182984580

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
https://pastebin.com/FiDXYjfs

>DARK SOULS
https://pastebin.com/Rtb5w9yS

>DEMON'S SOULS
https://pastebin.com/tehcGm75

>BLOODBORNE
>>>/vg/bbg
Bloodborne discussion is welcome here, but you'll get more help in their general

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>COMMUNITY
Player list: https://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
Steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
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*ninja flips*
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Honestly love the demon prince fight.
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>>183078436
Shame that doesn't do triple the damage.

>>183078595
Oh hey, Marc, how's the kids?
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>tfw two /dsg/ threads..
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>>183079015
Blame the single-link autist who keeps wanting to promote the Discord.
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so whats the lore behind the chosen undead being unable to PAUSE HIS FUCKIN GAME
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In the end, which metas were the least and most fun?
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>>183079389
it's actually because two people made threads at 740 at the same time
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>>183079427
git gud

If you know you can pause at any time to collect your nerves and plan ahead, a lot of the tension and flow of the fighting is removed.
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Souls like:

Story / World
>Dark / High fantasy setting with supernatural powers
>faceless protagonist
>lore told through item descriptions and npc dialogue, not cinematic custscenes/direct exposition
>world-ending or post apocalyptic peril
>Guiding waifu for the player
>Multiple morally ambiguous endings

Non-combat mechanics
>Third person rpg movement and camera control
>explorable levels with shortcuts, traps, gimmicks, and enemy rooms (metroidvania)
>multiple classes and gameplay styles that play drastically differently
>varying speed classes of weapons and armor (light, mid, heavy, etc.)
>lots of character stats and build creating with tradeoffs, not just linear upgrades
>random enemy item /weapon drops
>"boss" weapons and armor

Game Design
>large end-dungeon bosses
>surprise mid-game player or NPC invasions
>open-world exploration or varied boss order
>Asymmetric multiplayer
>unified currency for items and rewards from enemies
>tweaking of basic game mechanics (walking speed, stagger, dodge distance, basic combat options, etc.)

Combat Mechanics
>combat-first melee focused game design with blocking and/or rolling
>enemy lock on and strafing
>stamina bar that is consumed by movement, dodging, and/or attacking
>critical/riposte attacks like backstabs, shieldbreaks, or headshots
>easy mid-combat weapon swapping
>mid-combat healing
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>>183079427
Enforced integrated multiplayer. If you want to pause, you'll have to quit the game temporarily while in an area not populated by mobs.
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>>183079427
Many reasons

Pausing breaks the flow of a fight and being unable to pause means you're also fighting against your own nerves

The other big one is asymmetrical multiplayer. Can't have that and a pause button too.
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>>183079427
Za warudo
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Post your character cosplays!
Post builds for them too!
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>>183079681
Solid list.
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https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
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>found the glitch to get summoned as a dark moon blade under the next 30 seconds
Wew I live under a rock
If only I knew it before then I wouldn't had to farm those fucking knights
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>>183079427
>
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>>183079681
I think there are enough specific staples here for Soulslike to be considered a legitimate genre.
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>>183079847
What glitch? Just started a deprived guy for another run today. Would be helpful to know
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>>183079946
He's baiting you retard
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>>183078595
Best boy with the best Souls

>>183078820
>how's the kids?
Probably at his parents' house? I thought he only had one daughter though.
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C3AX2Hk is the link

For those wondering
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>>183079946

Starting a new Steam account was believed to give you more blue invasions.
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>>183079681
I still want a Souls/Soulslike with a bright, fantastic world full of hope and optimism, with a happy ending for everyone locked behind the hardest, most punishing content that could only be considered vaguely fair.

Like these fucking reindeer holy fuck
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>>183079632
>"Hey man how do I pause this game I need to take a shit"
>"Git gud"
I hate this community sometimes
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can't wait for the pillars of the community to recognise das2 as the superior souls game at least compared to das3
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>>183079427
I'm pretty sure being able to pause mid-fight with a boss or mob would ruin most of the feel of these games.

You can "technically" pause if you're undead/hollow/offline or somwhere invasions are blocked, and in a place where mobs are cleared. Instead of pressing a button, you just gotta make sure your guy is safe.
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>>183080682
I hate you sometimes too, anon
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>>183079439
>if don't care about winning or learning the game
Most fun: DS3
Least Fun: DS1

>if you actually wanted to play the game and figure it out
Most fun: DS2
Least Fun: DS1

>If you are the type of player that throws a fit when they lose
Most fun: DS1
Least Fun: DS3
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>>183080682
Unless you're in a boss fight, then just chill somewhere where there aren't enemies. If you haven't just been running past everything finding such an area isn't remotely hard

With the way online works, you can't pause without fucking things up. But just stay hollow/unembered if you don't want to be invaded. Also in DS3 you can teleport to the hubworld at any time via a homeward bone. Since they're cheap you only have yourself to blame if you don't have one on you.

Stop sucking.
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chloanne has POWERFUL collar bones
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>>183079773
10/10
Nice to see cool cosplays.
That, and I have seen too many """"Guts""""
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>>183080281
That's absolute horseshit. Anybody who believed that got memed on hard.

t. 28 Ears in 3 and a half days on a Steam account that was created in the 2003 beta

>>183080682
It's not that hard to hold in your shit for the 15 seconds or so it takes to run away from mobs, quit from the menu and then get up and walk to the bathroom. Inconvenient perhaps, but not difficult.
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>>183079773
youre on another level
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>>183081503
>>183080281
>>183079946
>>183079847

It's because blues work on a priority system where if you die a lot, you don't get summoned as much.
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>>183081812
proofs?
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>>183080980
>Learning the Game
>Shit Souls 2
Fuck off
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>>183081812
That's also horseshit. Were that the case, someone would have found that out with CE long ago.
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guys I cant beat the abyss watchers, died probably 20 times already halp. Git gud obviously being on the table first, what else do would you suggest?
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>>183082643
are you struggling with anything in particular? first phase? second phase? both?
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>>183082643
Let them kill each other in the first phase.

Press R1 on him in the second phase, because he's a shitty boss with zero poise that lets you stagger him.
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>covetous demon has a gimmick where you can free hollows so he chases them instead
WHY
He's already easy as fuck
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>>183082643
Red Eyes is on your team
They can be backstabbed
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With the changes to Stamina breakpoints when using the FaP +3

How much is ideal for the Valorheart? I'm trying to make a build around it and the Lothric Knight Long Spear
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>>183081738
I-Is that a good thing...?
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>>183082195
>hating build variety
go back to fox only final destination
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Is there a posing mod for Dark Souls like the ones for Skyrim and Oblivion?
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>>183082643

If you're on PS4 I'm happy to give you a hand, I'm certainly around the average level for it. I'm waiting for someone to help me with a boss so it'll pass the time
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>>183082784
>>183082643
>>183082643
mostly the first phase it takes so long as i just run when the unfriendly one spawns and wait for them to fight eachother, but i can never hit the backstab there.and i feel like it maybe harder to get behind him with a keyboard or im bad.
also thanks for the fast replies
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>best emotes
>best fashion
>best build variety

dark souls 2 is the best game for player expression
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>>183082853
Maybe they thought the base form would be harder. The mechanic is pretty neat though, and I will always take any opportunity I can to fuck over those assholes for what they do to you later in Undead Crypt.

>>183082908
Ideally at least 34, optimally all the way to 40. Valorheart is stupidly stamina-hungry because of the block-and-attack trading that it's designed for.
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>>183083040
Build Variety is worthless in a shit game
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>infinite hyperarmored healing

Why is this allowed?
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>>183082978
>generic anime villian
Looks like a bad attempt at making a Griffith cosplay.
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>>183083103
Im on pc :(
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>>183083158
2 has the worst, most obnoxious gestures. No Way is way more annoying than someone using Well What Is It?
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>>183083627
because you lack the stomach
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>>183083627
Why are you giving them time to heal? They still take damage, so go get hits in. Wind up that heavy for when they're done healing so it makes as little difference as possible.
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>>183078595
>ds3friends disappointed that he's liking DS2 more than DS3
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>>183083627
Because you should be backstabbing him for massive damage instead of R1 spamming him for minimal.

>>183083696
Just set a pass and ask for some help. Loads of PC players here are always willing to co-op.
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If you were in charge at Fromsoft and could make one last balance patch before leaving ds3 entirely, what would you change:

>Rework sharp infusion so that 60 is the softcap and increase the damage there, but make it so that you can't get the insane damage some weapons have at 80 now
Buffs:
>luck in general: make it so that at 60, it feels like how good it was in earlier builds
>Blessed/Simple: both give only physical damage bonus with their regen mechanic, but give them actual damage. Should only be about 10% less AR at 60 than in the weapon's intended stat. Either that, or allow both infusions to be buffed with resin/spells.
>Partizan type 2HR2s have poise frames
>all damage types can do counter damage now, not just thrust, but to lesser effect
>Feasing Branch scales with int instead of str
>rose of ariandel true combos with lightning arrow at max cast speed
>shield splitter speed increased and deals more damage to shields
>Firelink Greatsword scaling increase
>Executioner greatsword can be infused
>Spin stomp changed to be able to roll catch
>Almost everything that deals increased damage to shields gets better shield damage
>Bloodlust gets additional bleed damage with the WA, in addition to the damage boost
>Axe warcy r2s have poise
>drang hammers and twinaxes have l1 posie, but decreased damage
>Gargoyle flame hammer and all demon weapons have increased scaling
>Dragonslayer spear/swordspear have decreased dex scaling, but increased faith scaling that improves lightning and phys damage
>Emit force damage boost
>Divine pillars damage boost and tracks target
>Magic barrier increases all elemental resistance
>Vow of silence increased time
>Lifehunt scythe speed increased
>Bursting fireball, profaned flame, boulder heave, black fire orb, floating chaos, and flame fan increased damage
>firestorm increased damage and poise
>flame whip speed increase
>power within and carthus beacon increased time
>seething chaos lasts longer and activates by proximity
cont.
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>>183083858
taking bets on what age she starts lurking /r/happas
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>>183084096
14 at the slightest. With an ugly looking father like that? She's bound to find other happas for connection
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>>183083448
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>>183083987
Nothing, because I'd make sure all the playtesters and balancers were working hard on making the next AC / Dark Fantasy / MMO they're working on instead
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Where does DeS belong on ENB ranking (DaS > DaS2 > DaS3)?
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help lads i forgot
whats the best time to stop leveling vigor
27 am i right? asking for a sl 120
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>>183084581
At least 35, optimally 39. 27 Vigor is for if you want to be two-shotted by a UGS combo.
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>>183084581
27 minimum, but at SL120 there are enough death combos that you should have 35-40 vig to give yourself some wiggle room. 35 with FAP or life ring, 39 or 40 otherwise.

27 is fine if you're an embered host, but not if you're doing pvp
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>>183084562
>Epic Miscarriage
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great swamp ring and witchs ring stack right?
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>>183085071
Yes
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>>183078436
Getting an itch to play DS2 Scholar Edition again, which community is more active? PC or PS4?
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>>183085071
>what is google?
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>>183085572
pc
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>>183083987
few more buffs:
>all soul arrows have increased tracking
>farron darts have increased damage at lower int (should be more useful than throwing daggers at 30-40 int)
>farron hail/crystal hail increased damage per pellet
>soul stream damage boost (should be capable of 1000 damage at 60 int with all boosting gear equipped)
>farron flashsword damage/poise damage increase
>soul greatsword/old moonlight speed increase. Increased damage with high-scaling catalysts (keep the pick combo about the same)
>pestilent mercury no longer hurts the caster
>hidden weapon changed to body buff (but does not mask weapon buffs)
>dark edge poisecasting

Nerfs:
>curved greatswords have less scaling across the board
>daggers are easier to roll out of after 2 hits (or cant roll catch as easily)
>murky hand scythe scaling changed to scale primarily with int/faith, but can't be buffed on any infusion
>longsword, greatsword, and katana phantom range fixed (same with fist running l1)
>throwing knives capped at 15 per fight
>healing spells cant be used in arena fights/cannot be posiecasted
>lightning arrow poisecasting ends after 4 seconds
>fire surge slight range decrease/fp consumption increase
>homing soulmass speed decrease/crystal HS damage decrease
>Farron dart fp increase
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I want a Souls game with a bigger focus on attrition. Very scarce bonfires, big, a bit more open areas, and constant risk of getting invaded, as you'd have to go human at a bonfire. I can imagine long, comfy coop runs through huge levels, players resting mid run in that apocalypting setting, all stalker like.
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>>183084581
27 used to be the case, but with many patches, things in general just deal a lot more damage, you need 35-39, including rings of favor+3 and life ring +3 if you can
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what if i want to name my character in a japanese name
but i cant type japanese and i cant paste because dark souls 3

is there a way?
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>>183085874
No fuck Magic
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>>183083758
>No Way
>not comboing I'm Sorry into Have Mercy after every kill
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>>183086089
27 was never the case
>>183084581
39
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>>183086102
Fuck
Your
Mom
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>>183085920

So, basically what DaS2 was first imagined to be?
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>>183086145
Magic seriously needs a buff and poise needs a nerf
I never lost to a magic user but high poise fuck me over
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>>183086345
what if a staff was introduced that had only like 60% damage as other staffs, but could poisecast?
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>>183086184
>Not gesturing and just doing the slow walk away
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>>183085572
Ps3
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>>183086145
the problem with magic is that there's 4 spells that are way too fucking good, but everything else is fucking garbage
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>>183083158
>Bow
>Spam VERY GUHD
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>>183086339
Even bigger and even longer. And no life gems of course. You know, something that would make you try your hardest not to get hit, just because it could fuck you up in a long run.
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>>183085071
>>183085487
I really wish they didn't, and that all spell damage was re-balanced to account for this.

The way it should work is that all spells should do more damage across the board, and you get the 15% ring early on. Then in the late game when you actually have good spell buff, you get the 25% ring and replace the 15% one, and do as much damage now as you did before with both rings. It would at least give more flexibility for utility ring slots.
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>>183085920
I want Souls games to never, ever go back to armor sets with gender differences.
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>>183086526
Poise casting isn't fun though. If I wanted to trade, I'd just make a str build.

>>183086345
How would you buff it? It deals very high damage already and is very strong in PvE. You'd have to cut down on the i-frames, speed casting up or just give a bigger variety of spells for it to work better in PvP.
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>>183086952
I see. My problem with sorceries isnt in them as a whole. Moreso that my favorite spells in the series are all melee-range spells: Soul greatsword/flashsword, lightning stake, lifehunt scythe, and flame fan are all rad as fuck, but only lightning stake is viable due to its high damage and posiecasting. I really wish that soul gs/old moonlight would be fast enough to actually hit something outside of the pick combo, and if it did, it would feel like a decent hit. Maybe if they had combos like flashsword does it would be a different story...
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>>183085920
Snowflakes wouldn't be able to handle this and nobody would buy it. Just have to face the facts that these games are casualized for maximum sales.
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>>183087858
I know they aren't planning another one anyway, I'm just thinking how nice it could be going through such huge levels with a friend and watching the comfy landscapes and designs
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>>183083987
>make poise actually fucking work outside of hyperarmor
I don't care about anything else.
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>dark souls 2 is getting me back into the dark souls series

holy shit dark souls 3 absolutely btfo
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>>183086918
>being this deluded
This was never the case, there was never a "golden age" of fashion.

Demon's Souls, the first Souls game, was the worst offender since it had gender-locked sets and most of the unisex sets had major gender differences.
Dark Souls was one of the least offensive ones but still had major differences for sets like Pyromancer and Shadow.
Dark Souls 2 contended with Demon's for worst offender, with tailor-fitted slutwear all around.
Dark Souls 3 was initially on the same tier as 1 and maybe even better, but it tossed it all out the window with the DLC slutwear.
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>>183088140
>slutwear means gender restricted

nah

there's literally maybe 2 chest pieces in the entire game (either DS2 or DS3) where they aren't identical across the two genders.
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Killed Dragonrider second try. That was really easy, damn.

I still did so bad at the beginning of the Tower that the 2 giants near the fire won't spawn anymore. I'm dumb.

Dipped into the tower, saw scary things. Found next fire and got out.

Should I upgrade my shit? Been rocking the fire sword and nothing else really. Got a neat leather shield that I never use.
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>>183088513
dark souls 3 didn't really improve much with the dld
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>>183088714
Fire sword is pretty neat early game. What build are you going for?
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>>183088714
Heides Tower of Flame and Forest of Fallen Giants are all relatively easy areas because the game expects you to go to one of those first.
Get a bow and arrow to meme the dragon,kill the Dragonslayer whos relatively easy and is just basically watered down Ornstein with maybe a new move or 2.
If you're going to no mans wharf you might wanna upgrade your weapon a tiny bit as the darkloving creatures are annoying as fuck
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>>183088309
>where they aren't identical across the two genders.
Excluding curving based on body shape and tits, it's the opposite.

DaS2 alone had the Bandit, Desert Slut, Executioner, Lion Clan, Moon Butterfly and Fume Sorcerer (won't count the rags set since that one's obvious).

It's more the case for DaS3, at least up until the DLC introduced the slutwear.
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>>183089130
>dur I put colander on my head for helmet
DaS2 Bandit is the most retarded set ever and I can only hope it never appears again, Falconer Set welcomed though.
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>>183089002
Probably good old sword and board, or 2 hander.
>>183089078
>Get a bow and arrow to meme the dragon
Forgot about the dragon, hm. I got a crossbow, I'll see how that goes.

Don't know about the Wharf. Saw one of those lizards that turn you to stone (?). I kinda dipped after that.

I think I'll go kill the Pursuer first. But I'll keep your advice in mind.
>>183089305
Thanks a lot.


Should I buy the stone-to-flesh branch or just level up? The branch opens up, well a branch heh, doesn't it?
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>>183088714
It's such a shame how poorly executed Dragonrider is. His moveset and tempo actually increase as he gets lower in HP, he'd be a fun boss were it not for that huge fucking blind spot where his shield arm is.
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>>183090296
Basilisks aren't that hard to deal with. The ones in DaS2 actually have basic attacks instead of constantly spitting gas at you, but the nature of their threat in DaS1 was that they would always mob you and petrify you via blocking off your movement and keeping you in the clouds. This is much harder to accomplish in DaS2 (moreso since they can actually spend time trying to attack you instead of gassing, and those attacks are pathetically easy to block/dodge), and I think there's only like one or two in that passage anyways.
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>>183090296
IIRC you get a branch after killing the first Pursuer. The one for 12k souls is just if you're trying to avoid him for some reason, or for accessing optional treasures.
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>>183090296
>Should I buy the stone-to-flesh branch or just level up? The branch opens up, well a branch heh, doesn't it?

Yes. If only because talking to melentia after spending 10k souls (the branch is 7.5k) will give you the silver serpent ring +1, which lets you gain more souls from enemies. So the sooner you buy the branch the sooner you get the ring and the sooner you get the ring, the more souls overall you earn. It pays for itself.
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>>183090837
There's a fixed number of Fragrant Branches in the game, exactly equal to the number of statues I believe. But there are several statues you can skip, and which are generally not worth it anyways.
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Why do they say ring of steel is nerfed in pvp? When I check the stats in arena or invasion it still gives 17% instead of the 5% it's supposed to give
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>>183091338
It says 17% but actual damage numbers work as if it's 5%. Your "displayed" absorption number only applies to pve.
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>>183091005
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>>183091585
why is the darksign listed as part of the moundmaker's covenant?
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>>183091789
Boss invasions
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>>183092059
doesn't count anymore because it was patched
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>>183091005
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>>183090296
Also HOLY FUCK THEY WOKE UP
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>>183091319
It's worth looking up what statues guard which gear/items/shortcuts though.

The soldier at the top floor of Aldia's keep is one of the most useful enemies in the game since he drops 2 ascetics and you can repeatedly farm him, meaning you can then farm effigies in FotFG and Sanctum easily.
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What's a good level for hypermode shenanigans?
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>>183091005
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>>183092343
Oh and they're tough as fuck too. I know morningstar ain't a great strike weapon but fuck.

Dipping till I get more shit I guess.
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Why does Aldrich Faithful and watchdoggos have to invade in the two most boring areas in the game? They're literally 80% flat ground
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>DaS1 has Cleansing Greatshield, which doesn't have 100% physical block but laughs at spell damage
>DaS2 has Rebel's Greatshield, which is the same but better since elemental damage is so ubiquitous in DaS2
>DaS3 has ___________
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>>183093329
good rolling
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Do you think 18 ATT is enough FP for a Faith build? Lightning Arrow and Steak are the only offensive miracles really use.
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>>183093329
havel's, and it's shit.
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>>183093329

Havels has 80% across the board, I know it doesn't really fit your criteria because it's a fuckhuge 100% physical resist stability monster but that's all we got
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>>183093329
Pontiff knight shield :^)
It'd be a good shield if it didn't have like what, 47 stability on a medium shield?
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>>183093494
>Steak
yes for hybrids; no for casters
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is raime's ring or some equivalent available in dark sous 3?
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>>183093696
No
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Why don't hollows attack other hollows?
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Anybody wanna join me on Wolnir? On PC, pass: dsg

I'm SL 40. I've cleared everything in Catacombs except what's below the bridge ladder, but I can do Wolnir before killing Horace to keep Anri alive right?
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>>183093792

I always thought that they attack you because they want the little bit of humanity that makes you not a hollow but I'm not a lorefag so idk
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>>183093057
>Bastard Sword
Mein African American
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>>183093819
Yes, just kill him right after Wolnir
Why would you need help vs that boss tho?
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>>183093819
Wolnir can be done at any point in the quest, yes. If you talked to Anri before the bridge, then it doesn't matter what happens to Horace because then she leaves for Irithyll.

I'll be there in a second.
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>>183093918
I think that's the Judgement GS
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>>183093948
I don't need help really, but it's my N'th run so I like to spice it up + get it over with quickly with meme bosses like Mr.Skeltal.

And coop is always fun.
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>>183093918

That's not the bastard sword, it's the greatsword of judgement

That being said I really like the bastard sword
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>>183091005
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>>183094054
Nice.
Ill be at the Catacombs bonfire in like 2 mins, we can head straight for Wolly. Already talked to Anri.
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>tfw don't like the direction these games are taking now
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>>183078436
DSP is streaming and is about to start playing shit souls 2 sotfs on ps4 right now. If you are on ps4 and on sunken king at roughly 1.5mil - 2.5mil SM, go snipe him and fuck him up.
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Any Souls news in the last month?
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>>183091005
Only played DS1 and 3 and can't remember shit from 1
what do people use to work these edits? mspaint is sit and can't handle pngs or I don't know how
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>>183094947
Dark Souls 1 is getting a remake
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So what do I need to know before doing a hollow build? I'm planning on 40/60 dex/luck with a frayed blade (444 AR) and blood warden twinblades (shit AR but bleed) and repeating crossbow offhand + splintered bolts (or maybe Avelyn instead)?

I know it's been nerfed to shit but I'm a masochist and I like doing odd playthroughs
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>>183094992
Are you kidding me? DaS and not DeS?
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>>183083987
>Axe warcy r2s have poise

They already do though, it's just the attacks are even slower than greatswords so no one ever uses them.
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>decide against better judgement to try lords of the fallen
>even at the lowest equip load, everything feels like molasses
>roll is either too long or too slow to be useful
>camerawork by Michael J Fox

Is there any reason to continue, or is it just irredeemable shit?
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>>183094598
Well too bad. It's over anyway, and Miyazaki and crew have moved on to make AC, new souls in a new setting, and some other shit. All without Bamcos dates and deadlines for shit. So next game will be ok or great, don't worry.
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>take the time to farm concords for DMB
>never use it because of how OP it feels
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>>183094971
Photoshop.

>>183095162
Yes, he's kidding. None of the games are getting remakes.
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>>183094992
Post proof nigger. And I mean absolute proof, straight from Bamcos mouth, none of that neogaf trash
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Thanks bud.
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>>183095509
>OP
lol what
buffs are shit in ds3
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>>183095058
Pretty sure Hollow damage caps at 40 Luck, and depending on the source (read: Kekxtra) status effects may cap at 50.

My suggestion would be to go 35 Luck and fill the gap with Hollow infused off-hand. Saves you points.
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>>183095629
Sure thing. I wanted to see if it was actually possible to kill Wolnir from one-third HP, thus all the Lightning Arrows. Guess they really do intend for you to kill him by hitting the bracelets.
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>>183095646
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>183095723

Okay thanks, I'll stop at 40 while leveling and have a look at the bleed damage scaling with rosaria
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>>183095646
heh
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>>183096012
For extra fun, invest in 18 Int 18 Att and get Man-Grub's Staff. You'll have access to only a few Sorceries (better ones if you strap on Sc**lar Ring), but they'll all hit like a 50 Int staff. And no need for Sage Ring either because 40 Dex.
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How do you use heavy weapons properly in DaS2?

Powerstancing great hammers and nobody will come near me unless I initiate an attack. So I try to bait them with a free aimed heavy swing to catch their roll behind me, it either lands or I try to recovery-frame roll away and get warped back. Same shit every fight.
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>your hits don't register until after his poise frames start
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>>183096431
Heavy Weapons in general are just bait and attack
Unless you have high poise,then you can usually afford to trade hits
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>>183096852
People never try to trade with me though since they know they'll get flattened.

Proper animation cancelings would be amazing, not exactly overpowered for ultra weapons that swing so slowly anyway.
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>>183095948
Yeah he's usually a hard fought battle for me, because trying to kill him normally just gets you bumrushed by skeletons. Now I'm just stopping by smouldering to off Horace and on to Irithyll. Smouldering Asshole is a headache ill save for later.
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>>183097179
Maybe try offhanding a crossbow so they can't play quite as passive.
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>>183097330
Throwing Knives could also do the job for him,no?
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>>183097179
You can animation cancel with backsteps to some degree, but catch someone once with it and not kill them then they will be even more passive
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Just experienced my first ever invasion (may have been an npc)
That fucking sucked man
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>>183097767
What was their name?
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>>183097767
NPC invasions always suck cause they make no sense
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>>183096431
Trade damage and use range and spacing to your advantage. You can chase down people pretty easily with an ultra and put yourself in situations where you force them to trade or back them into a corner.

Remember, your weapon is a big giant area denial tool, if they're rolling away from you then you can push them into a corner. If they're rolling toward you, you can space far enough away so that they won't end up behind you after their roll.

If they're rolling behind you, then you're attacking too close to their location
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>>183097819
Armorer Dennis
That's why I thought NPC, plus the fact noone plays in the area
>>183097849
I had just gotten done with an annoying area too
RIP
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>>183097767
npc invaders blatantly read your input, do at least twice the amount of damage a player would do and have at least twice the amount of health a player would have
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>>183097972
Oh yeah, that's an NPC, and he'll be back later. Even better, I think he's one of the Scholar invaders, which are all more difficult than the ones in the base game. When you compare Dennis to guys like Dragonfang Villard, the difference is astounding.
Have fun with Maldron.
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>>183097972
Dennis is such a bullshit invasion
>Soul spear at fucking FOFG
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>>183097972
Dennis is always a pain, he is at his worst if you try and take him on in FofG, his later incarnations are significantly easier as long as you have some kind of a build going.
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>>183097972
Yeah that's an npc
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>>183096431
another tip: Play without lock on, catch them by dead angling your running or roll attacks

Ultras can be played EXTREMELY aggressively if you have good stamina management, since no one can trade or out-space you

If you want to play an ultra right, try using a 2H zweihander. It's got the perfect moveset and reach to train you how to change your attack angle, predict opponents and chase them down.
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what are some fun strength weapons. are the drang hammers any good??
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>>183097972
Armorer Dennis is a cunt, he's meant to symbolize an OP twinked invader.
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>>183098101
that area is completely optional though and only meant to be accessed after you beat pursuer, it's perfectly acceptable for the challenge and reward
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>>183098101
>>183098113
I was at fofg yeah ;_;
Soul spear is that huge fucking magic swing he does? That hurt man, and I'd never seen him before
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>>183098170
Yeah I play with lock off, practised a lot at aiming too so I can catch most things. Just kinda sucks when I miss by a frame or two and get a punishable backstab that I can't do anything about. Not moaning tho, I know timing is the key.
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>>183098230
Drang Hammers are alright. Winged Knight Twinaxes are even better though if you're going for paired weapons. Millwood Axe and Dark Sword are also fun and useful options.
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>>183098230
It has really shitty range but I have a lot of fun with the Pickaxe
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>>183098230
Millwood greatbow
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How do I into Valorheart?
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>>183098314
Dude that got wrecked here. He always appears there? Fuck, man.

I already grabbed some stuff in a chest, I think I'll pick up my souls and try to run to a fire.
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Is there a moveset associated with the twinblade in DS2 that doesnt look lame as all fuck?
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>>183099090
Once he's invaded bonfire access is cutoff.
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>>183099190
Fuck my life, I just saw that.

I think what I should have done is rush to the part where he appears, then run back to where the Turtle dudes drop, and use Seed of a Tree of Giants
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>>183099505
It's not particularly worth killing him there, he's meant to rek your shit (and sometimes make you destroy the hunter gear chest by accident)
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>>183099710
I KILLED HIM

I WAS HALFWAY HOLLOW TOO
FUCK YES

Also his magic sword shit goes through pillars, that's bullshit
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>>183099993
If you played Dark Souls 1 you'd know true bullshit when every single attack but yours just passes through walls
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>>183099993
nb

Can't remember if he respawns later on if you kill him there but if you did you made Iron Bridge a lot easier
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>>183100085
Dark Souls 3 takes the cake. The fucking axe-on-a-chain assholes in Archdragon Peak that can not only hit you halfway across the map, but can also hit through walls and the fucking floor.
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>invading in high wall
>host and yellow phantom
>okay, not too bad for me to handle
>blue comes in
>oh I guess I'll ju-
>and another one
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How good is all this leather stuff btw? I was rocking Royal Swordman armor, Infantry hat and the rest was the starting Falconer stuff. 58.6 encumbrance.
>>183100085
Haven't actually. Looking forward to the suffering!
>>183100136
Neat.
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>>183099664
>Dragonrider Greatshield
Holy fuck, you may be the only other person I know of who likes that thing. I've always thought it was sexy as hell, but stats-wise it's so inferior to other greatshields, even the Tower Shield. Makes me sad.
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Tell me about Havel the Rock, why does he sit at the bottom of an Undead Burg tower that overlooks the Darkroot Basin?
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>>183100616
>Haven't actually.
then why are you playing das2?
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I swear to god, I've gotten fucked by the action queue in DaS3 more than anything else.
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>>183100917
He supposedly went hollow so Ledo (it's most likely him) locked Havel in that tower for eternity
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>>183100616
All armor is good and viable except stuff like Prisoners Rags
Just remember that upgrading weapons is more important than upgrading armor

Heavy Armor will require lotsa points into VIT to allow proper movement,but heavy armor will also sometimes ignore hits (You'll still take damage but your character won't flinch)
Light Armor allows better movement and doesnt require much VIT investment,but offers less protection
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>>183100917
Because it was his prison after he went hollow.
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>>183100917
More importantly why does Jester Thomas wanna help you so much in DS2
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>>183100986
Humble bundle yo.
>>183101109
Hm. I'll give the light armor a try. It seems rather marginally worse than the Falconer stuff that carried me a good bit, but lighter.

We'll see I guess. The Wharf should be a good trial
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>>183100917
It's probably not Havel himself. Havel was in command of an order of knights who also wore that armor, hence why you see several of them all over.
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>>183100917
>>183101098
Havel's lore annoys me, he's just like Vader in the Star Wars EU and cartoons.

Badass who fought in the great war, literally wears armor made of solid rock and wields a dragon tooth. Why is he an early game pushover? There are countless hollowed bosses much more powerful than him.
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>>183101948

cba finding the source but iirc it's confirmed to be him. the set you find, the gank squad and ds3 are soldiers of his
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>250 hours in DaS
>recently picked up DaS2 and started playing
>realize I'm still just as gud as I go through all the mobs and first boss

>mfw on the pursuer and still stuck after 20 attempts without any real progress

Fuck me. Should I give in and use a shield again? I always thought a shield was easy mode in DaS1 (and it fucking was), but god fucking damnit, why are my rolls so shit in this game
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>>183101057
it's really bad against enemies that have shield bashes but yeah it's just generally bad
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>>183102536
>Stuck at the Pursuer.
You're either not nearly as good as you think you are OR you have base AGI.
AGI directly affects your iframes on rolls.
85 is the lowest. If you have 85, don't even try to roll.
96 is equivalent to the standard mid-roll from DaS1.
Adaptability and Attunement affect your AGI.
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>>183101994

Same reason a literal god can be killed by a meager hollow

Havel went full hollow, you never go full hollow. If he was in posession of half his mind he'd probably have been nigh insurmountable
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>>183102536
Adaptability increases your i-frames, it's something like 32 for DaS1 frames although attunement affects it too.

Keep two handing. Damage output is far more important in these games.
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>>183102536
You dont need a shield for the Pursuer
Roll under his attacks.
If you're having trouble with timing that,practice your parries,and parry him,then shoot him with a nearby ballista
He's basically there to train you for other humanoid bosses in the game
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>>183102869
How does that work? Not that dude but I'm in a similar position. Got him to 50% health tho.

I didn't increase AGI at all I think, but I did increase Adaptability
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>>183102536
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This has irritated me for an eternity. I'm simply trash against Straight Sword users, whether they're a novice or a veteran, and these happen to be the most commonly seen weapon in all of PvP.

If the SS user wants to do nothing but mash R1 in my face, there's almost nothing I can do, even if I do roll away I'll get roll-caught in phantom range whether or not they're timing it right (in fact I get roll-caught even more frequently by the mindless mashers than I do by the intelligent R1-R1-R2 setup, which indicates actual PvP skill, ugh). I can't parry, I've practiced and practiced and cannot get the hang of it, not with a shield, or a katana weapon art, or a Curved Sword, and I refuse to use a Caestus because it is ridiculously ugly. So the mashers almost always win. It wasn't so bad PvPing at SL30 when they were super-weak Irithyll Straight Swords and they only had the stamina to swing five times in a string, but now that I'm in the mid 60s I'm seeing 7-swing strings or even 9 or 10 sometimes, and half the time it's more than one phantom doing it in unison (ganking).

To make it even worse, these players often Point-Down or Applause or some other obscene gesture and think "wow haha I'm so gud at this game and u suk" when any monkey with half a brain would see it and be shaking their head in disgust and disagreement. I don't mind the gestures actually, but I hate the fact that they think they deserve to be called good, when they factually do not deserve it.
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>>183102869
>>183102993
oh fuck, I forgot to lvl my character

so base stats, I think, I don't even know

>>183103082
sweet, totally forgot about parrying as well. Must have slipped my mind when rebinding keys...

Anyway, I'll keep twohanding, get gud and either parry or get my stats up
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>>183103327
To put it in perspective: I don't recall ever once beating a Black Knight Glaive, in a duel or in an invasion. Not once. But I never once feel salty about it, because every single Black Knight Glaive battle has been fun, and has been played by an opponent who's clearly skilled with it, as it's a weapon that's very difficult to use compared to the more basic weapons. I get beaten soundly, or get beaten after a super close match, and my reaction is always "Awww NIIIICE CATCH! GG brother" or "Jesus that back-roll attack out of nowhere! Beautiful stuff!", where with the Straight Sword monkey-brained mashers, it's more like "Great. Perfect. You gonna Point-Down now? Give me something? Anything? YES. THERE WE GO. Fuck you too. throws controller onto pillow I'll throw your parents in a room and gas them, prick."

I never get this angry when the SS users play properly. I think it's more like, when they do nothing but mash, I feel like they're disrespecting or insulting me just from the way they fight. They're saying "this tactic is all I need for the likes of you" and I take stuff like that very personally even if they don't see it (or care), I guess because respect is a very important element of PvP to me.

I'm so triggered by Straight Swords now that whenever I co-op on the rare occasion and summon phantoms, I screen each one and if any of them have a Straight Sword I will not summon them unless they have a really cool name and good Fashion Souls. If I'm expecting to be invaded (from co-oping) I want my phantoms to represent what kind of player I am, and I feel that even being remotely associated with scrubby Straight Swords makes me look bad. THAT'S how irritated I am at them.

But I do feel a lot better after typing out this rant. If anyone can relate or has related horror stories about smug noobs, feel free to share and we can get some good ol' ranty discussion going and get some salt out of our systems.
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haha just ironically died to wolnir for the first time in months he probably thinks he actually killed me but i actually only died ironically lmao
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>>183103215
pro-tip: he's easy as fuck to parry. try it with a buckler
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>>183103712
Died a handful of times on new builds desu, only ever to that smog that appears out of nowhere seemingly impossible to escape

Such a shit boss, hit his golden trickets and win or you stand in the wrong place and insta-die. Yet still he's the coolest looking muthafucka in the game
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Are katanas fun/good? Currently using grand land.
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>>183103215
Adaptability increases agility among other things but not every point will give you more i frames
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>>183104927
Sir Alonnes katana is hype as fuck
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>>183104927
>grand land

GRAND LANCE

the fuck was that , brain?
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>>183104927
Katanas are good because they have high counter rating, powerstanced blacksteel katanas deal an unresonable damage with the strong attack.
Alonnes katana when buffed reaches 2k with just two strong attacks, around 1.5k with just light attacks
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>>183105085
>grand land
Man, I wish I could use an entire island as a weapon
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>>183104927
Katanas are excellent weapons, cancerous in PvP though due to their speed and range.

Grand Lance is a lot of fun, if you can get used to its moveset I'd recommend a run with with. Grab some FAI for some buffs though.
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>>183104927
GRAND
LAND
FLEENSTONES?
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>>183105283
Quakestone and Ledo's come close
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is there anything like ds2's marakumo's instant rolling parry in ds3? the ultimate baiting weapon
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>>183105496
Not even close, smelter hammer on the other hand
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>using whips in DaS
I'd forgotten how shit they were
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>>183106054
Old Whip had an AR of 400+ in DaS2 I think.

Broke in two swings but that thing was a lethal finisher.
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>>183106054
>mfw the threaded cane turned into a whip that was very good
Finally
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>>183103771
I suck at blocking but I might try. Got that white leather shield with 90 reduction.
>>183105020
Oh yeah, now I remember. Agility isn't a stat you increase directly like a main attribute, right.
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>>183106054
They've never been particularly good in any of the games. Witch's Locks in DaS3 is only good because of the Pyro scaling. Also the R2 has absurd range, you can literally sweep entire swathes of Deacons with the thing.
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>>183106356
Its worth googling darksouls 2 agility and checking the table the wiki has so you can have a better idea of when you will get more i frames
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>>183106356
don't need to block.

he's unbelievably easy to parry with a buckler, half a second before his horizontal swing hits you and you'll see what I mean
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>>183106054
Use and abuse the rolling R1. At least for DS3.
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>TFW I liked helping people in DS2 more than I do DS3

How is this?
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>>183106695
I might do that.
>>183106708
Brainfarted, forgot they were different things.
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*screeches in your path*
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>>183107171
It's not easy to connect with out managing shit and wearing a ring. Feels more satisfying for you I guess (i don't like 2 co-op). Knowing you helped out a struggling player in this world of different rolls and nice stances
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>>183107171
Avid co-oper/babysitter reporting

DaS2 had lifegems to help someone through a whole level, DaS3 cut your estus in half
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Dark Souls really needs a "Pat head" option
I wanna pat Shalquoir
I wanna pat Queelag's Sister
I wanna pat the Emerald Herald
And Dark Sun Gwyndolin
Its not fair
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>>183107874
I want to fug that cat
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>>183107494
>no pus of man rune or covenant
Love this game but goddamn wish I had a time machine, so I could use my average Japanese to yell at Bamco and from....
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>>183107494
*throws Firebomb*
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>>183108162
*screeches louder*
It's over, ashen one, all your eardrums are belong to me
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why is everyone talking about Dark souls 2 again? what happened?
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>>183108478
It was on sale on both steam and humble bundle not long ago
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Getting sunlight medals in DaS2 is such a pain. There isn't enough people as there is, and they're all spread out over a bunch of areas.
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>>183085572
PC is still pretty active; not sure about the other systems though.
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>make a goofy boxer/pyromancer for fight clubs
>build for carthus beacon and pontiff rings
>the ar boost gets lowered during PvP
What do I do with all these dumb spell slots, /dsg/?
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>>183108478
Some ENB poster shilled his stream to high hell and it brought out the DS2 players like roachs to sugar. Also summer sale, so new meat asks for help as well. It's 12$ so it's not really shitty investment since the game matches its price tag now
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>>183108535
roger that, I was afraid it was some bullshit like ENB actually having influence
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>>183108629
>boxer/pyromancer
>no Demon Fists
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>>183084562
>where does DeS belong on ENB's ranking?
His souls favorites kinda shift around but :
Back in 2016 streams he said Demon's Souls was his favorite overall but DS1 is really up there and so is Bloodborne although he said that he personally has trouble enjoying BB due to the "dark themes"(see pic).

So for ENB it's probably safe to say DeS / DS1 take turns being his favorites with BB coming after that and before the started Scholar run he kinda ranked DS3 above DS2 so I think his ranking would be something like :

DeS / DS1 > BB > DS3 > DS2.
It's kinda ironic that his ranking of the games is pretty much the same as Luci's even though Luci hates ENB. ENB himself hates ranking the games but he's gone kinda back and forth between liking DeS the most and liking DaS1 the most.
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>>183108743
I don't like how they look and I wanted the character to focus more on the punching and only to have dabbled in pyromancy to make punching better.
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>>183108478
Personally I got it from july's Humble Bundle. First game in the series for me. H-hi
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>>183108478
I dunno, but I'm sort of getting the urge to reinstall SotFS since I have a SL120 meme build at 1M SM that I could use for some small PvP activity. I still have at least 3 builds in DaS3 that I haven't completed yet though.
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how is the DLC content for dark souls 3? would you guys consider the season pass worth it?
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>>183109540
eeeeehhhhhhh
DLC1 is overpriced, DLC2 is about the right price
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>>183091005
this took a bit
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>>183109540
25$ is considered a hard spend....
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>>183108478
The Souls Community is finally recognizing DaS2 for the masterpiece it is
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Guy in the last thread who wanted a summon for Greatwolf I am home now. Got waylaid by jackassery. So if you are here please stand up.
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>>183108945
You don't need pyromancy to have fun with Demon Fists, friend
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>>183109851
But anon blood borne exists already.
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>>183098921
start with no less than 30 endurance, then make a quality build
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no more dark

when does Armored Souls release?
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>>183109540
AoA is a disappointment, it's decent content but too short to be worth $15. Plus one of its main selling points is something you get for free from TRC anyways (not that it matters since AoA is "mandatory" for understanding TRC). TRC on the other hand is worth it, good length and plenty of goodies from armor to weapons to great boss fights.

If you have to buy, get the season pass.
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>thought I'd try invading as soon as I got creos
>12+0, except nothing but "countertwink" ganksquads
>first is a guy going normally through the game with a wizard buddy, quickly dispatched him and basically dueled the host
>second is a downscaled phantom who the host actually let me kill without intervention (bastard sword stomp is pretty good against cocky fucks)
>host has infinite hp on
>smack him around a bit and point down
>he actually runs off a cliff and sudokus
am I in the twilight zone?
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>>183110298
>he hasn't already played it

>>183109851
As someone whose favorite of the three is DaS2, that's bullshit. It's far from a masterpiece, despite the amount of fun that can be had with it.
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>>183110347
Forgot to mention, the phantom dropped ~2.3k souls. Is there a way to tell from that what level he was? In ds1 it was 10% of the last levelup but I'm pretty sure it's less here
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>>183109934

Aye man, luckily enough I was just heading back to give it another try. Been levelling a fair bit since I got my Watchdog Covenant rewards so should be easier
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>>183106054
ds2 is the only game where whips are a considerable option, seeing as the rest of the game is at a slower pace but whips are about the same. Plus they feel a bit stronger and have the nice ability to phase through walls. It's always nice to take one with you through the gutter/black gultch and just destroy all of the statues from afar and through walls. Then you have powerstanced spotted whips which almost insta-poison foes
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>>183110638
I will finish up with BB and cone to the bonfire in a bit
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How do i get good with FUGS on ds3? I don't know how to use it properly, and i can't punish rolls with how slow it and i don't that much to always trade.
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>>183110854

No worries mate, pass will be dsg so just pop your sign down when ready
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>>183109540
The season pass is worth the price, but TRC is considerably better than AoA. DLC1 has some neat things here and there and its worth a playthrough, but literally every character you will ever make has something to be excited for in DLC2, and thats not just because of the best rings getting +3 versions without going into ng++++++++ to get them
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>>183110978
Sign is down by the Depths of the Painting bonfire
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>>183110876
that's gonna be a problem with every ultra weapon in ds3. You absolutely need the poise to make trades when the chance comes up, and the endurance to make use of the block frames and stamina-inhaling monsters that are ultra-weapons. The best advice I could give is to take advantage of FUGS strengths: use the WA to make trades, make use of its insane reach, and bait out misstimings on your opponents rolls by staggering your r1s as necessary.

ultra-weps in roll souls 3 are a tough beast to use, but its very satisfying when you get that pancake, or when someone is stupid enough to fall for your trade
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I am a new player to dark souls 3 and I like the game so far.. but my friend is telling me that I am cheesing the game for myself by using certain shit.

For example, I got the "dark sword" from right before abyss watchers and I like the look and style of the weapon but a buddy tells me that it really turns the game easy later on when you get some upgrades in it. Is that true?

I remember a situation back in dark souls 1 when I played it. I got the dark knight shield really early on and that shield apparently is broken as fuck and makes the game baby easy?

So now, I am not sure what I want to use. I also like the carthus curved greatsword but my friend told me that it is GARBAGE and you are actually gimping yourself by using it.

SO I don't want to gimp myself but I also don't want to cheese the game. Why are so many weapons like this? What can I do or what should I do?
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>>183110876
Use staggered R1s to force trades. Your best offensive option that's aggressive is rolling R1 pokes. You just need to learn the timings to punish other players but even then it'll be tough, FUGS range and damage make it easier than other ultras though.

>>183111475
Straight Swords are sort of PvE easy mode in 3 but so are a lot of things so I wouldn't worry. I would just say use what you like and fuck your friend, if your enjoyment of the game is being adversely effected by what you're using then I would change it but otherwise do as you like.
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>>183073924
>taking 20-30 minutes to kill a host
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>>183111475
Your friend sounds like a fucking ass.
Yeah, the Dork Sword is strong as hell.
CCG is fun and certainly not actively gimping yourself.
Use what you enjoy.
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>>183111475
id tell you to not turtle and not r1 spam, but tbqh its the most viable approach against the lothric knights

just dont be a faggot, the dark sword is by far the least useful straight sword for almost all builds, go on the wiki and take a look at some of the weapons there, and pick 3 different ones that suit your build from different catergories to use.
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>>183111249

And there I was worrying that drinking a pint of Cuba Libre would cause problems. Cheers for the help man, can't wait to give the weapon a whirl
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>>183111475
You should ignore your friend and use what you like (he's wrong about Dark Sword anyways, shit was nerfed almost a year ago). Anything is viable in PvE, the only thing that's a "crutch" is greatshield turtling, and even that's inferior to just rolling to dodge attacks. Also, no summoning phantoms, but that one's a given.
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>>183111475
>don't use this, it's too good
>don't use that, it's not good enough
First off, tell your friend he's being an asshat. As long as you don't summon or read guides before completing your first playthrough, you're fine.
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>>183110978
>>183111249

Lol we fucking dumpstered him. Btw a good way to cheese the wolf solo is to first kill off the gravetender, then keep one of the pillars between the wolf and yourself. This allows you to let him break his charge into the pillar and you can get free hits on him when he's recovering. But lemme know if you want to co-op some other boss / attempt to
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>>183111776

How are bows in this game? I liked the great bows in the other games but never really tried other bows. I really like carthus weaponry so far. I like the style and fluff of carthus too.

Does carthus have a armor set? When I made my character, I had a like "middle eastern" swordsman in mind. I never really liked katanas at all and prefer the more "scimitar" kind of sword. but apparently the carthus "curved sword" is a cheese weapon as well. Looks cool though.
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Dream Lore:
>The Gwyn you fought in Dark Souls 1 was an allusion, really he was killed by Vendrick
>Aldritch is the guy on the rotten's shoulder who escaped and became a priest
>Gough starved to death because he can't see food, he's not actually blind it's pine resin on his helmet
>Tsorig didn't kill Fume Knight, Fume Knight let him have his ring and sword after being strong enough that he didn't need either
>Fume Knight killed the primordial serpents because they're fags, the Sable Church are a bunch of roleplayers
>Soul of Cinder is Aldia, who doesn't die when you kill him by the way
>Pontiff Sulyvanh is Vengarl after reuniting with his body
>the Dancer is a fragment of Manus
>DaS3 Andre is an allusion made by the shrine maiden, DaS1 Andre was killed by the titanite demon
>Prince Lorian is a cyclical rebirth of Velstadt
>Siegward died in Sen's fortress, the guy you meet with afterwards is a rapist snakeman who snatched his armor and wants to fuck Sieglind
>Seathe, Nito, 3 of the 4 Kings, and Smough are allusions, you didn't actually kill them in DaS1. The only meaningful end game fight in DaS1 is bed of Chaos. Also Smough is a girl.
>Anastascia kills herself after the DaS1 Chosen Undead sets himself on fire. Fire isn't actually linked, he just burns to death
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>>183111475
dont listen. There's almost nothing in DS3 thats even close to as broken as some of the noob-traps and broken cheese strats in ds1. Do whatever makes you feel good, anon. As much shit as the game gets, its pretty balanced.
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Not (You) again
>>183112009
>countering the boss' moveset is cheesing now
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>>183091005
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>>183082853
Covetous Demon is a good boss fight because he has a ton of neat gimmicks.
-Grab that unequips all of your items (this would be super annoying if a difficult boss had it, so it's appropriate here)
-you can make him roll into all the poison urns, poisoning him
-hollow mechanic you mentioned

He's the most underrated boss in a Souls game.
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Anyone else having problems with steam?
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@183112092
>this pasta again
Don't even deserve a (You).
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>>183112045
all bows are shit for anything but cheesing, with the sole exception of greatbows, which are ok for some things

nope. also carthus got nerfed, but its ok because now its actually a really nice sword that isnt babby tier. the only reason i avoid it is because while i like the blade shape i dont like the hilt or aesthetic of it, im more of a fan of this kind of curved sword.
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>>183112009

I'll bear that in mind for next time I'm doing a low level run. Which seems to be a running theme of every build I make now

Wish I could offer you more bosses mate but I cleared the rest a solid 40 levels back, except for the DLC2 bosses which I'll save for when I reckon I can take a crack at them 1v1
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Is pure crossbow possible?
Is it Fun?
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>>183112283
It's Tuesday maintenance time.
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>>183112256
>WotG
>smelter dildo
>kiln
not too bad desu
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>>183112045
Stop caring about what people thing are "cheese weapons", what are you some sort of cuck? Carthus is old news but it wouldn't matter even if it were still relevant. Light version curved swords are strong right now, but need to be used 2 handed and 2 handing a small curved sword looks retarded. The heavier types are best as 1h, including Carthus.
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>>183085920
That would be really frustrating without co-op, and bosses are just much more satisfying to beat by yourself.
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>>183112045
I have a soft spot for greatbows. The DLC greatbow is broken as all hell, but I prefer the Dex one you find later on. Combining that with Hawk Ring and long-range arrows is fucking cash.

>>183112283
Yes, Steam was dead for a short while.
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>>183112406

Depends on if you can work out how to resin them

If you can't, eh

If you can, you can pretty much slaughter anyone
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>>183112406
Mixed crossbows are usually better and healthier. Besides, crossbow breeds are mostly made up by nobles who had too much time on their hands. You're supporting an industry that produces twisted results of inbreeding
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>>183111475
The Dark Sword was one of the best pvp weapons shortly after release, but after getting hit with some nerfs there are much better straight swords. Also if someone sees you using it they'll probably think you're just some noob who googled best weapon in the game.

For pve I'd say you'd have an easier time curved greatswords or normal greatswords than straightswords. You don't really need the speed of straightswords in pve and the poise damage of bigger weapons makes some annoying enemies like black/silver knights, lothric knights, etc much easier to deal with.
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>>183112158
I don't feel about cheesing bosses but the games' A.I and collision detection is a bit iffy sometimes so completely breaking a boss kinda feels a bit cheesy sometimes imo. Like back in DS1 I exploited DS1's poor collision to stab Gwyn to death through one of the stalactites in his boss arena.
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>>183112597
Gosh, I had no idea. I guess I could adopt one from a crossbow shelter. Anything else a new owner should know?
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Is the ds2 online service down for anyone else? It keeps trying to log in, but it won't connect
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>>183112092
What the fuck is this shit? Are you trying to upset people who hate Dark Souls 2?
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>>183111475
Your friend sounds like a massive faggot.Should cease all communications imo.

If the game feels too easy with what you're currently using to the point that is gets boring, just try what you think feels the most fun. Just about anything that's not deliberately bad can get you through PvE just fine.

You can respec at Rosaria whenever you want.
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>>183112341
Haha it's ok, have fun with DLC2 when you get around to doing it I'm actually leveling in preparation for it as well
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>>183112916
steam is under maintenance for a few hours
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How's this looking for a lvl 80 pyroish invader? Spells would be vestige/chaos orb and black flame or black flame+whatever the fuck.

I sure as hell won't be relying on spells much, since especially the actually damaging ones barely hit anyone but retards. And even hitting them is a miracle.

Onyx blade is a must, obviously. Armor would be whatever the fuck. Just give it to me straight if some stats are fucked or if you think poise would matter as a pyroish invader
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>>183112916
Noticed that. Steam maintenance I think.
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>>183112341
>>183113053
my personal belief is that if you can make it to dlc2, you are prepared for it, no matter what level you are at. Both friede and lothric are indicative of the level of skill needed for those segments, the only difference being their levels of HP. Even then, if you go in underleveled, there's a good number of titanite chunks and twinkling titanite in the dreg heap, plus a free slab
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>>183113220
use a dark longsword and chaos dagger
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>>183091005
why did they have to make the greatsword so xbox hueg in 2 and 3
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What the fuck am I supposed to put in my left hand if I don't want to use a shield? I am trying not to be shitter by relying on a shield but what do I use instead of one? Right now I am using exiled curved greatsword.
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>>183113519
Crossbow, blesses Caestus, a fast offhand weapon like the Estoc, or nothing.
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>>183113519
blessed caestus

also using a shield makes you smart not a shitter
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Is this how you build a dark weapons dude?
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>>183113220
>Parting Flame despite not meeting the Str requirement
>and with Black Flame as your only melee range spell
May as well switch to regular Pyro Flame at that point.

Get Endurance to 26, that's a break point with FaP +3. You can shave off of Str if you just two-hand Onyx.
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>>183091005
Don't use spells much, I think the hexes in DaS2 would probably be on there if I actually used them, they looked cool.
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>>183113481
>implying it would make a difference if you played online
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>>183113220
onyx blade is only good if you have the poise to keep up with it. Otherwise, you are most likely better off with a dark longsword/saint's bident. Flame surge is the best pyromancy in the game, only because its free damage, even against skilled players. Black snek is also pretty good for setting up people to roll into your vestiges. I'd argue to get your att to 24 if possible just for the variety. And consider Demon's scar as an alternative casting tool/melee as it has a neat true combo with black flame, which is extended further with dragonhead shield if you use the l2 first at close enough range. You can also end with the shield l2 to rollcatch people but its not guaranteed.
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>>183113481
>he likes a WOMAN's armor set
and you call yourself a warrior
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>>183114103
>women cant be warriors
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>>183114103
it's just so pretty
I'm a huge slut for heavy armor though, so stuff like ds1's steel set, ds2's royal soldier & syan sets or ds3's knight set are all pretty damn unf
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>>183113637

fuck I think I sold my caestus like an idiot. Is there anyway to get another or maybe there is a caestus alternative?
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>>183112092
>>Gough starved to death because he can't see food, he's not actually blind it's pine resin on his helmet

Was somewhat on board til this
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>>183114414
llewellyn
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>>183114414
Then use a blessed parrying dagger
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>>183112092
>Siegward died in Sen's fortress, the guy you meet with afterwards is a rapist snakeman who snatched his armor and wants to fuck Sieglind
That's bullshit but I believe it.
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Greatswords need to do less poise damage.
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>>183113476
>>183113689
>>183113903
Parting flame was a miss-click. I want Onyx blade in my arsenal, thats what I meant. Obviously Ill be hardswapping depending what Im up against. And I DEFINITELY want to be able to one hand Onyx blade sometimes.

Here's the "fixed" one. Any other armor recommendations are welcome, somebody told me in the last thread 27 poise is recommended for greatswords.
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>>183112647
love using the offhand dark sword

It's fast LT move is a great balance to the slow powerful ultra great sword and great axe I use in my main hand.
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Fuck my life I just lost 9k souls. Probably not that much in the grand scheme of things but shit hurts.

Particularly since it was an optional area. Discovered the true secret there, a Phrarro's mechanism.

All in all better than the Tower of Flame now that the sleepy cunts have awoken
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>>183115660
>LT
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>>183115660
don't greataxes get faster hyperarmor on one handed l1 attacks? or was that patched?
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>>183115696
You will be 9000 souls behind on Soul Memory

F O R E V E R
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>>183078436
>DaS1
>Anor Londo
>Get gravelorded
>in NG
eh... whats the point?
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>>183113519
dark sword or caestus
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>>183115436
Try this

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/223868

you'll be able to poise through other greatswords and halberds
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Harald Curved Greatsword

What is it good for? Why would I use it over the Exile Greatsword?
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>>183117091
OH NO what is that
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>>183117631
Nothing just retarded game design. Don't worry about it, if you plan to PVP then it's a sign of concern.
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>>183117609
It's the longest range curved Greatsword and one of the highest ARs in the class with a great WA for poise trading and fucking up roll spammers around you.
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>>183117609
It has considerably more reach and the WA a lot of fast poise that can punish running R1 spam and stagger people between poise frames.
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>>183117831
>>183117917
Interesting, you had me at 'longest curved greatsword'

These things already rollcatch like a motherfucker because of their weird attack timings.
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>>183113519
Crossbow, casting tool, parrying tool, blessed item, simple item, offhand spear/straightsword if you are okay with 1h movesets, lothric war banner, morion blade, whip.

you have options
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>>183113680
help

i need feedback on my generic meta build
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>>183118582
There isn't really anything to say, except that you don't need those extra 5 levels since 39 Vigor is good enough for most purposes anyway. The Str is also a bit wasted since the physical base damage and scaling on elemental infused weapons go down the shitter.
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Why is Dark Souls dragonslaying so boring?
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>>183117358
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/223868
I have a level 80 or 85 with full havels with a greatsword for those kind of shenanigans. Must have been the most ebin build Ive ever made what comes to fun. Just with a mere greatsword being able to shit on even some ultras. Good times.

The fun factor goes x200 when the host/phantoms underestimate my P O I S E or don't understand why they lose nearly every trade
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>>183113442
>both Friede and Lothric are indicative of the level of skill needed for those segments

Demon Prince is rough as fuck though. I just came from beating Demon Prince and can't really imagine doing that fight with low damage and with low VIG.

The longer you have to take on Demon Prince the more opportunities he will have to chip damage you with the fire attacks and he will chew through your flasks.

I was lucky to enter the second phase with 14 Flasks but the fight depleted all but one flask.
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>>183093057
>Black Iron Set
We are one and the same, brother
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>>183119098
Kalameet is pretty fun.
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>>183095172
>
lmao
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>>183091005
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>>183119484
I guess some can be, maybe other games have spoiled me with more fast paced dragonslaying.
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>>183119098
Idk, I think Kalameet, Sinh and Midir are pretty cool and high tier.

Oceiros and Seath are meme tier

Guardian dragon and the bridge dragons in DeS / DS1 are ok tier

DS3 bridge drakes, Dragon God and Ancient Dragon are bad tier.
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Give me a bow build
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>>183119023
On higher STR scaling weapons like the harald, you still get ~30 AR for taking 16 to 26. Seems worth imo.
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Is Astora Straight Sword a good weapon for a raw infusion, or is Longsword still a better choice?
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>>183121116
Now, raw Longsword outdamages it now without having a Faith requirement.
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>>183120294
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/223881
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>summon yellow/white for some fingered 2 vs 3 action at pontiff
>phantom dies right away and ends up being a 3 vs 1 gank
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>invade at pontiff
>get ganked 3v1
>roll around for minutes, waiting for others phantoms to join
>"dark spirit has invaded"
>oh nice finally some hel-
>he helps them to kill me + point down
>I can see him getting killed right after as the screen is fading
ok
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>first ever Dark Souls 3 run
>having fun far, but still an adjustment coming from Bloodborne
>summon for random shit since co-op is fun
>finally get to point where next three routes consist of Nameless King, Gundyr and TRC
>hear how hard these bosses are
>will be called a cuck bitch if I keep on summoning on my first run

back to Bloodborne and Pokemon Sun I go!
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>try pvp in dark souls
>get dumpstered
>greentext about it on dsg
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>>183122382
>not sharing your pvp experiences will fellow jerks
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>>183113729
heides with falcon shield and lothric knight UGS in 3 would be p legit
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>NG+ DaS2
>Never used a boss weapon before
>Try Orinstien's spear
>Breaks every 60 seconds

Does every boss weapon do this?
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>>183122351
They're hard but fair bosses. Nameless Kang has a first phase that's basically like fighting Paarl, the camera is the real boss. But if you've already done BB then most of these shouldn't be that big of a stretch, more than anything Champ's pace is similar to that of a BB boss.
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>>183122654
>fap with 11 end
>nopoise without dwgr
>ass crest
>12 int
>>183122924
Stop spamming the special. And it's Ornstein, you pleb
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>>183122924
Literally every weapon except Santier's does this. And ironically Santier's is the one you WANT to break.

Hope you brought Repair Powder and have been upgrading more than one weapon at a time.
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What does the average STR/FTH build look like?
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>Midir is a big guy
>Yet my attacks never hit him, he keeps moving his head left and right
what the fuck, the window where I'm allowed to do something else than rolling and running is already small, stop dodging
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>>183123279
27 Str 60 Fai, put the rest into Vig, End and Att. PChain helps since you need the extra levels and the Vit lets you equip heavier armor for poise.
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>>183123279
For what purpose?
If co-op and invasions, 26 STR two handed hueg weapon and some healing/blessed weapon.
If meta shit, 60 FTH Crucifix.
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>>183123279
26/60 STR/FAI. Your ATT depends on how many spells you want. You also may want up to 10 or 11 INT, 10 for Crucifix and 11 for Murky Hand Scythe and the Dragonhead Shield.
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Should I play Dark Souls if I liked Dark Souls?
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>>183123491
Stay in front of his head, and dodge the combo. He literally stays still long enough for you to land a free hit on him after each attack.
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>>183123672
No.
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PERSONAL COMPUTER

FIGHT CLUB
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>>183123672
Either you mistyped something or you're meming.
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>Trying to get Flame Blade early for some fun DaS2 build.
>These FUCKING pyromancers in the Ascetic'd Sinner fight.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT THEY FUCKING EXIST.
THEY HAVE TO SPRINT AROUND LIKE CLOWNS THE ENTIRE FIGHT.
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>>183123156
>12 INT
>Not wanting to be smart
but yeah I'll probably switch a dwgr on and stop hating the FaP ring there's literally no reason to not have except for some casting builds
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>>183123672
You shouldn't play dark souls at all.

It's a meme game.
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if i use cheat engine to spawn in dlc items without owning the dlc, will I get banned?
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>>183124028
DLC items can be dropped to anyone, so no, just go offline when you do it.
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WHY DO I INSIST ON PLAYING THESE GAMES WHILE TIRED

First guy on the Wharf already despawned, fuck me, man. I think I lost another 5k souls.
I'm going to sleep
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>>183123905
Two-hand a greatshield, equip Redeye Ring and summon Lucatiel. Occasionally pull out a weapon and hit the pyromancers, they hit hard but they're squishy enough.
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>called a Zweihander
>people still use it with one hand

why is this allowed?
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>>183123662
>>183123587
Is 18 Attunement enough if I want to use Lightning Arrow kinda liberally and poisecast Stakes?
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>>183124427
Yes, especially if you're doing arena duels because of the 5 free ashtus you get there.
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>>183124385
>a game where parrying will stun the other guy long enough for you to run them through with the flat head of a scythe
>and where you can stop the attacks of fuckhuge building-sized monsters cold by using a shield
>yet this is the thing you have a problem with
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>>183123947
Yes. That's a casting build though. And judging by the heal, I imagine it's coop. Fap is op in 1 but with your particular stats you don't utilize it.
>>183124028
No. You can even spawn spells if you want
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>>183124351
Got 'em on my fifth or sixth attempt.
Wew laddie.
I'm glad that's over.
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Holy shit how fucking rare is the heide knight set in SotFS? Been farming these fag wagons for awhile now with a +1 gold serpent ring and the jester's cap, and I haven't gotten a single thing.
I swear, it was easier in the original where they only respawned with ascetics.
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>>183123839
where?
password?
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>>183124685
Drop rates get completely fucked after a certain number of respawns. After that, you're better off Ascetic-ing and trying again from the ground up.

Didn't stop me from farming 30 Dragon Scales at Dragon Shrine with CoC, it just took me a literal week and I got three or four times as many Awestones in the process.
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>>183125169
>Drop rates get completely fucked after a certain number of respawns.
What the fuck? Why? Does this mean using CoC doesn't actually help with farming items?
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>>183124685
Same problem.

Have yet to use an ascetic yet but all I've gotten after killing them over and over again is the chest.
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>>183125279
Some other anon has the data, but apparently farming them without item discovery equipment gives you a higher chance of getting the set.

They still drop shit after passing the normal despawn limit, but it becomes a lot more tedious.
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>>183124579
Not really any other rings I want to use and FaP is in general just a good ring
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>>183123662
>murky hand scythe
Is this settled yet?
What's the best between FTH/dark and FTH/lightning?
Isn't light infused lothric SS better than scythe?
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>>183124334
Samefagging just to say the screaming ugly cunts that are afraid of fire were a pretty cool encounter

Though they don't seem to like it if you take the fight to their nest (?) house
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>>183125678
Be careful about over-reliance on that torch. If you bully them too much, they'll fight back.
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I'm not holding my breath for a PC port, but how long till they release Demon's Souls on the Playstation Network
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>>183125647
>What's the best between FTH/dark and FTH/lightning?

I don't know what you mean by this exactly but Dark damage is generally the best elemental damage type because less people are resistant to it since innate Dark defense is only raised with Faith while Lightning defense is raised with Endurance.

>Isn't light infused lothric SS better than scythe?

I mean that's like saying isn't a Exile Greatsword better than a Dark Sword, they're both completely different weapon classes with different strengths. A Lightning Lothric Knight Sword is strong but Lightning itself is probably the worst damage type in pvp, and also investing in STR won't get you much damage for that. Meanwhile the Murky Hand Scythe benefits from being a dagger that has physical damage that scales well with Heavy lending it to 26 STR 2H and innate dark damage which can be buffed with Dark Blade, which scales only off Faith remember. It's an underrated gem for STR/FAI.
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Jesus FUCKING christ, Fire Lizards are awful.
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>Fighting Lost Sinner in NG+
>Decide to bring Luet because he's a nice fellow
>He somehow survives the fight with the smallest sliver of health
That guy is an absolute hero
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Is Wolnir's Holey Sword any good?
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>>183127038
No.
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>>183125903
Do they fight back after you kill a number of them, start to hurt them, or what?
I just kinda pounded them and they didn't fight back. Or at least I didn't notice if they did.

When I went into the house though, things got nasty.

The torch dude I freed was there just to show you they are afraid of light, right?
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>>183127038
It's pretty good as an R1 machine, it's the second longest greatsword tied with Gael's and Wolf Knight and has good AR on 26/60 or 40/40 STR/FAI. Biggest problems are Bastard Sword R2s and the still very slow WA but it's nowhere near a bad weapon.
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>>183127112
Torch Hollow shows up in a few other places to help light the way. Just be careful with him, he has the potential to aggro a later game NPC that may be useful, I learned that one the hard way. You'll know who I mean when you get there.
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>>183126189
I meant STR/FTH with lightning lothric UGS vs STR/FTH crucifix
I think that's the usual builds I see around
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how can I tell what the current server world tendency is for des?
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>>183127461
Both are good but Crucifix is far stronger as a weapon, also if you want to use Lothric Knight GS on a STR/FAI build you either want to Heavy infuse it and buff with Lightning Blade or infuse it with Blessed.
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>>183126581
The ones in FoFG? Yeah, they're literal cancer, you're better off buying Poison Arrows and plinking them from a distance.

>>183126754
I swear, he doesn't scale with NG cycles, because I tried summoning him for NG+ Lost Sinner once and she carved him a few new assholes before I could even land more than a half-dozen hits on her.

>>183127112
The torch dude is a SotFS addition and he's there to be a free torch for you so that you have both hands free. You won't always want one of those around though, especially in one specific zone later on.

And the Dark Stalkers will go into a frenzy if you back them into a wall with a torch, they'll stop being afraid of the light and fight back.
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>>183127598
It's it better Sharp on 80 DEX anyway?
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>>183127608
I was using a spear with the Leo Ring with about 40 Dex, so the pyromancers died in a few hits and it was just a race for Luet's life after that. I still don't know how he survived, I couldn't even see any remaining health.
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So how do you feel about spells(any school) in ds3? If we could skip the >using spells part
how do you personally feel about them?

I think they're mainly for supporting/nukes only hit retards(or distracted people)/baiting into something else. Not trying to say everything is trash, but in my personal experience fighting sorcerers/faith builds(who try to cast too much) are the easiest shit ever. Yes, of course I might have encountered shitters, but melee still seems to be the king when we're talking about invasions/duels.

How about you, Anon?
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is SL 80 actually a meta or is that just a meme?
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>>183127790
That's the optimal path if you want to maximize it's physical damage but 26/60 nets you good physical damage for it while allowing you to reach the max benefits of Lightning Blade or the Blessed version of it which is a 720~ AR UGS with innate regen. They're both pretty comparable in damage but the STR/FAI version gets you access to the best miracles if you so choose.
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How much poise is necessary for the Crucafix?
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I turn on cheat engine when fighting Bed of Chaos because it is a cheap fight.
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>>183128004
All Soul levels are meme levels
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>>183128174
About 25 if you want to tank Great Hammer R1s with the WA.
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>>183128004
it's a meme
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>>183127953
Faith is absolutely horrible to build, you have shit for offensive potential until Lothric Castle, and you don't get the best shit until the end of TRC and after beating SoC. The results are pretty nice, but the path there is needlessly retarded.

Never tried Sorceries, probably never will, my idea of fun isn't to turn my back on the other guy with Crystal Soulmass and backstep towards him with a CSS ready.

Pyro is definitely the most fun one, it's got a nice and easy buildup where you get everything you need by the time you enter Irithyll, and it combines melee swordplay and close-range spell casting.
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>>183127953
Faith build seems fine to me since you can win most trade with sunlight spear
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>>183127243
>>183127608
Thanks for the info about torch dude.
>And the Dark Stalkers will go into a frenzy if you back them into a wall with a torch, they'll stop being afraid of the light and fight back.
Really? I backed one into a wall before and nothing happened. Guess I got lucky.


I'm still salty about the souls but I'll learn to play better now
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>>183128004
SL 80 is shit. It's impossible to make a passable caster without resorting to some retarded """"""glass cannon"""""" meme setup.
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>>183127598
RKPGS is THAT bad?
I see many people with it and they keep fucking my shit up. I know I'm a shitter but still
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>>183129070
Depends if we are talking invasions/duels.
Inb4
>85
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>>183129095
You'll almost always ruin your first character's Soul Memory anyways, because it's a shitty mechanic. Best to just ignore it and enjoy SotFS as a single-player experience. Invading is a very chancey thing anyways, you won't have much to worry about no matter what platform you're on.
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>>183129220
In duels it's pretty mediocre now since the tracking and manual aiming of the WA got nerfed. The WA nerf was the worst part since it was the best way to hit actual competent people with the weapon. Still good in ganks/invasions though as much as any ultra is I guess.
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>still haven't finished the game on my healslut to get SLS because the next boss is Spears
>still haven't gotten to Dancer on my Pyroslut because I want Great Deep Soul from Aldrichfagging and don't have enough upgrade materials to bring my desired weapons to +3/+6, or infuse them to Dark because lol only one Dark Gem before Lothric Castle
>have a dick-ass thief waiting in the wings at High Wall but don't want to start that until I get access to Hollow and Blood infusions on my main who's at the beginning of NG+2
>still haven't progressed my Dex/Int build past High Wall because laziness
>have yet to make a quality character at all
Fuck all this autism.
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What's a good place to invade at 30/+2?
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>>183130701
>draws artorias eating
>isn't thicc
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>>183130701
Just use CE you faggot
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>>183130942
Swamp
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I don't understand the placement of Anor Londo in DS3 at all. What the fuck
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>>183131254
Time is convoluted anon
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Will I fuck up Anri's questline and consequently the Lord of Hollows ending if I venture to Smouldering Lake before the Cathedral of the Deep?

I want muh Izalith pyromancies right nao!
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>>183131364
just make sure you get yuria in firelink before you kill abyss watchers
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>>183130942
Farron Keep
Cathedral
Carthus
You might get some activity in Crux Woods as well, but that's usually SL25 domain.

>>183131364
Pretty sure Anri doesn't show up in Carthus until after you beat Deacons. And Smouldering Lake doesn't matter, as long as you don't send Anri to a still-living Horace (I think you can lie to her too and just send her straight to Irithyll).
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What are the minimum amount of levels in faith and attunement in which I can outclass estus recovery using ashen estus?
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The respect for sunbros is dying
Not even a hello nor goodbye sometimes, not even treated better than a mere doggo
Jerks
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>>183131753
Like 20, 25? At least, until somebody notices you don't have any Estus and are healing purely through casting, and then imagines the sound of a dinner bell ringing
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>>183131753
12/10
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Found a good ol' normal longsword.

Do I enchant dump on it?
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>>183132639
make it Sharp and gouge DEX

or make it Dark because meta
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Alright which one of you is tranny_wheels69
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>>183132639
It's literally one of the best weapons, so ye
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>>183132218
Don't coop with these casual brats, join the red master race
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>>183133016
pu$$y $layer here
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What is the meta for SL again?
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>>183131753
Theoretically it's always more efficient even with the shittiest healing spell and 10 Faith.

Let's assume that you're using a shitty basic Talisman with 100 spellbuff, and you only have Heal Aid to your name. Even that will heal for 1.5 times the catalyst's spellbuff, so you're spending 27 FP for 150 HP. Assuming you have 14 Attunement, you have 114 points of FP to expend. Assuming further that you've found two Undead Bone Shards, your +2 flasks will recover either 410 HP or 110 FP.

With that FP bar, you can cast Heal Aid four times before running dry, and you'll recover your full FP bar with one sip of Ashen. Those four casts of Heal Aid will heal 600 HP, which is more than what a sip of regular Estus will heal you for.

The further you upgrade your flasks and the more Attunement you get, the worse it gets. A +10 flask will only heal up to 600 HP per sip, and 200 FP for Ashen. That 108 FP you expend casting Heal Aid four times already equals a single sip of regular Estus, and if your FP bar exceeds 220 FP (say, by reaching 30 Attunement), then you've already reached an efficiency ratio of roughly 2 to 1. And again, this is with the shittiest healing spell available to you.

The whole trade-off here is that you have to stand still and cast the heal, whereas regular sippies are much quicker and one of the entire reasons why PvP is broken. But healing Miracles are much more efficient per sip, and can also recover HP for teammates, multiplying their effectiveness by the number of buttbuddies you have.
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>>183132997
>>183133042
Dark Souls II btw. I keep forgetting to say what game I'm talking about, I'm sorry.

Does the advice stay the same then? Do I 2-hand it or 1h plus shield?

>make it Sharp and gouge DEX
>or make it Dark because meta
Of that I only understand how to pump dex now
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Will I get reported for hacking or something if my connection is acting like shit? Dude last night posting on my profile asked if I was that guy with infinite iframes and some guy I just invaded as a Faithful ended up with me getting two teleport backstabs when I was nowhere near his back and wasn't even hitting the attack buttons anymore. Connection is just shitting itself but I don't wanna be accused of something and banned
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>>183133879
Yes. You won't get banned though. Try not being an idiot and fix your fucking connection.
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>>183133842
2h doesn't increase effective STR, only the STR for requirements in das2. It's down to which moveset you prefer, honestly.
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>>183128004
I take characters to 134.
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>>183133879
The only way you'll get banned is if invalid data is detected on your save file. And that only happens if you actually cheat or get your save data fucked by someone who's cheating.
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>>183134448
Only thing I ever did was like, last year. Edited my character name and added the Sneering Mask because I missed the last part of the quest line to get that invader. Would any of those be an issue?
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>>183133842
Old trusty Longsword is still tip top tier in DaS2. It has C/C scaling uninfused meaning you want 40/40 STR/DEX.
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I thought both bells had to be rung before Lautrec would kill Anastacia, but this time I made the trip down to kill Mildred and light that bonfire, bone home and he killed her already.
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>they brought the pursuer greatshield back but not the UGS
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Why isn't Dark Souls an esport?
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>>183135351
Because it has no reason to be.
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>>183134664
If they didn't get you when you did it, then they probably never will. And it's not as if you'll be the only person who gets accused of hacking with no substantive evidence.

>>183134834
Apparently the specific triggers are for you to grab the Fire Keeper Souls in Parish and Blighttown. It's just that you'll kill the bosses and ring the bells at nearly the exact same times as grabbing those souls.
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>>183135042
Good. Shit moveset. Although good D A M A G E N U M B E R S
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>>183135495
Why does Lautrec not want you to have a reinforced Estus flask?

So how many people preemptively kill Lautrec, and who just does the questline anyway? I hate dealing with his fucking fanclub in Anor Londo
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>>183135791
You can Poison Arrow his fanclub to turn it into a 1v1, or only poison Lautrec to turn it into a free cheese.

Restoring Anastacia gets you dialogue and eventually a free full kindle of Firelink's bonfire. Doesn't matter all that much either way so long as you don't eat her soul or use it for reinforcement.
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>>183136030
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>>183135584
Literally most of the movesets in DaS2 were the same across weapon types. It was only once you got to DLC weapons (Majestic Greatsword) and gimmick weapons (Puzzling Stone Sword) that you start getting different results.

DaS2 was more about customizing weapons based on elemental damage and status effects, than it was about the movesets anyway.
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Will I get softbanned for spawning champion's bones?
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>>183137352
You only need the one, and it's not like Gravetender and Greatwolf are a particularly hard boss. Hell, if you can't beat them then just get into TRC and kill Lapp for it.
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>>183134220
Hm. I like the thrust a lot. We'll see.
>>183134702
Thanks. I probably want to keep it uninfused, correct?


Should I get a mace, by the way? My morningstar seems trash as a strike weapon. Mace seems good, and cheap enough.
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>All those blood stain in front of rosaria
???
Is that because they are rebirthing?
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>>183137710
>I probably want to keep it uninfused, correct?
I'd say so because infusions weaken Ring of Blades and Flynn's Ring. But it's also pretty good infused and buffed with a matching element. It's just a good weapon no matter what.

>Should I get a mace
Sure. Mace is pretty OP in PvE since you come across a lot of armored enemies.
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>>183135351


pvp isn't mean to be competitive or taken seriously. It's just for messing around and having fun.
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>>183138463
>pvp isn't mean to be competitive or taken seriously.
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>>183138052
Impromptu fight clubs, perhaps. Or people who got chased into a dead end by an invader. Or just retards who think they're safe in a covenant room and don't realize you need to kill Deacons to actually stop invasions.
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>>183138553
you cant get invaded in rosaria's room and its blocked off by a fog wall when you get invaded
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>>183138052
Every time someone posts this question, no matter what board or website, nobody every has a right answer. SOMEONE has to know, right? At least one person here has to have done it, or known why other people would. This has been bugging me since I got the game, and I need answers dammit.
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How much STR do I need to correctly use a 28 str bow?
28 or does the 2Hands automatically apply?
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>>183138790
Because the exact situation in which you would encounter this is quite narrow. Most invasions into Cathedral end with a death before anyone manages to get up to the roof zone (unless you're an asshole deliberately camping the rafters with Millwood), or with the host going into the boss fog for Deacons. It's rare that the host or his phantoms and the invader will all make it into that general area, because a host and his buttbuddies would either kill the invader or die to him in the rafters at the latest, or gun straight for the boss room.
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What is the edgiest possible build in Dark Souls 3?
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>>183139546
19 Str for Millwood, I believe. Just mule over a K***ht's Ring along with the bow and you can use it at base values as Warrior or with one point of investment as K***ht.
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>>183139979
Good idea thanks
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>tfw you invade and kill some cuck escorting his girlfriend through the game
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>the crow guys and the new tree enemies actually turned out to be real
So what happened to the rest of them? Put off until Bloodborne 2?
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>>183100085
>play dark souls 1
>rush to the boss
>enemies behind me
>enter fog door
>THEIR ATTACKS GO THROUGH THE FOG DOOR AND KILL ME AS SOON AS THE FIGHT STARTS

every time
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>>183140907
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>chain axe goes through fifty million dimensions and oneshots me
If it's not the fucking ancient dragon glitching out forcing me to warp it's the fucking enemies being a pain in the ass fuck this boss
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I'm at SL 64 +6. For the best range of invasion activity, should I stop or keep leveling?
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>>183140862
What even is this image. Some "prediction" post about AoA?

And there isn't going to be a BB2. It's a single standalone exclusive, and I'd much rather it stay that way.
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>>183139952
Dex pyro with dual kats.
Abyss Watchers or Fallen Knight set.
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>>183139952
Make a pale skin white hair, red eyes character an edgy name
Use a Frayed Blade and a Hornet Ring.
Wear nothing but black.
Begin every fight with Legion Etiquette, then attack when they buff, gesture or drop a carving.
Slow walk away and pop Quiet Resolve when you win, ideally with a Hornet Ring crit.
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>>183141038
>that loading transition
Nice potato.

>>183141120
Stop. +6 is good enough for SL40-60, go any higher and you'll start encountering people with +8 weapons on a regular basis.
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>>183141120
You already passed the prime level for Irithyll/Anor Londo invasions (45-60). You should still get some activity though.
80 is good for late game areas, particularly DLC. And you get to go to +10.
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>>183141097
That chain snek is the sole reason why I equip a bow for that specific "boss" fight. You can lure it to your side of the bridge, then gun for the ladder.
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>>183141412
Whats the highest level range for watchdogs?
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>>183141512
At 40 you get much less summons, at 45 - almost none. 25-35 is optimal.
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>>183140907
>tfw half a dozen clams in Seath's boss room

>>183141512
Well, there's a heap of activity at meta levels everywhere. Watchdogs should ideally be very low if you want to catch people in NG, like 20-25 with a +2 weapon.
Watchdogs can invade anyone so long as Abyss Watchers or Sage (I think) are still active, so you could get activity all the way up to 40 +4.
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>>183141512
I saw regular Watchdog activity at SL25+2, both as a summoned blueberry and invading grapist.
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>>183141512
Because of the large downsearch range, level doesn't matter as much. You can get summoned at SL35

BUT... weapon memory does matter because you can't get much large titanite until after abyss watchers.

+2: Most players
+3: Only players that optimized their titanite and are in farron swamp
+4: Only players that already beat abyss watchers but are still hanging out in the swamp (aka, no one)
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>>183141762
you may get +4, while still on the Wall, but it's not worth the trouble.
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>>183141762
The problem with that is that Watchdogs don't invade inside the poison swamp, so anyone doing Abyss Watchers will have already gotten the Farron Keep bonfire and thus not trigger Watchdog invasions anyway.

You can only reliably invade as a Watchdog if the guy is taking his time slogging it towards Crystal Sage. Hell, I think invasions only proc if the host steps foot into the watery areas at all, if they stay at Halfway Fortress and don't come down then no Watchdogs get summoned.
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>>183140773
kek that happened to me yesterday except the cuck was under cheatengine and keep reviving after dying so I had to go for the host
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>>183141412
Holy shit newfags get to anor londo at level 45?
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Why is it that sometimes when I summon / get summoned in Dark Souls 2, the bosses die in one hit?
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>>183126581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guhZebW-Vcg
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>>183141950
Actually, that's not true. From and Wikidot fucked that up, the numbers are reversed so you only get the same downsearch range as other invaders, you just get a bigger upsearch range.
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What are the best areas to invade at SL120?
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>>183142416
Password summons stronk
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>>183142237
I usually just gun for the host anyway, since the game doesn't punish you for resummoning and even a retard can stall while a babystiller puts their sign down.
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Someone help me figure this shit out, when I am fighting an invader as a host, sometimes I do no fucking damage to them at all, like my hits just go throught
at first I thought it was maybe lag? but they neiter skate or teleport around and no matter how many hits I land they take no damage
The weird thing is that they do take damage when phantoms attack them (or it seems like that)
It doens't happen always but it has happened 3 times already and I don't know if it's some cheat meem or bug
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>>183142480
>Fire Lizards have drop attack animations
I never knew that
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>>183142480
>the flame salamanders have a custom animation for landing a plunging attack on them
I honestly have no idea how anyone figured this out, because I never knew this despite having 300 hours in the game.
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>>183142802
Happened to me before too. At this point I just accept it as cheats and just sprint to the fog.
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>>183142828
>>183142480
>>183142865
>1000+ hours
>beaten cardinal tower at least 20 times because early game chunks
>NEVER knew about this

god dammit From

why do you continually surprise me
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>>183142416
If you spend your souls on fashion and spells, then yes, it's easy to get to beat Pontiff at SL45.

>>183142802
Most likely Collector's Edition. I once encountered an invader who made himself immune to bluecop attacks but not to the host. He was one of the more "honorable" ones as some people just turn on outright invincibility.
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Post weapons you never see in PvP
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>>183143145
>He wasn't there for the FP regen glitch
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>>183143145
>could have been the jagged ghost blade of DaS3
>it's not
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Is it still edgy to use Legion Etiquette if you're a Watchdog?
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>>183143145
I'm the exception.
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>>183142480
The custom animation is baller but

Is that how you're suppossed to get down there? Plunging attacks protecting you from fall damage?
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>>183122201
Had a similar situation earlier invading as a Faithful. There was already a red there that had the host on the ropes so I jumped in and tried to help him finish him off and the shithead back stabbed me and allowed the host to heal. Host killed him almost immediately after that, too. Just why?
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>>183143262
There is a big pile of stacked furniture that blocks that area off from outside that you can drop down to, and then drop to the floor.
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>>183143262
You are supposed to get the key and go there. Also, silvercat ring.
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>>183143354
Man what the fuck I tried that and fucking died
Do I need more health/that ring/the spell or did I just do it wrong
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>>183143246
>using Legion Etiquette
The brand of an elite with patrician taste
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>>183143230
Was that even any good? I never used it since there were already so many better weapons by the time you have to enter New Londo.

>>183143262
No, there's a key you get in Iron Keep. It leads to that door in the hallway to the Last Giant boss fight that you could never open before. And that door eventually leads down there.
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>>183143437
Soldier's?
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>>183143447
You might need Silvercat Ring.
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>>183143246
I will accept a Legion Etiquette over Point Down or Applause faggots any day.
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>>183143762
My favorite victory emote is My Thanks. Like it's supposed to be a praise emote but it reads more "Victory shriek" to me
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>>183143547
No, the key in Iron keep.
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Sharp Rapier is better than Sharp Dagger for riposte damage, right?
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>>183143762
>>183143943
>waiting to be invaded
Sit Down

>when summoned and meeting a host
Legion Etiquette or Bow

>After beating and invader
Quiet Resolve or no gesture

>After beating a boss
Prayer
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>>183143537
This moment is really fucked up. There is not even a slightest hint, what is this key for, so the only options - go to wiki or run through the world, like retard, trying all doors.
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>>183144109
Marry me please
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>>183138052
A couple of memers committing sudoku and the occasional retard aggroing Leonhard and dying to him
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>>183143547
>>183144042
Something you'll learn about DS2 is that most areas (especially lost bastille, fallen giants, and heide's tower) are not supposed to be "cleared" all at once, but you are supposed to travel back and forth between different areas, re-discovering them in new ways and taking a nonlinear approach.
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>>183143762
The biggest disrespect is "Welcome"
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>>183144102
Crow quill is the best. Though Ledo hammer with hornet does great riposte damage too.
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>>183143943
I always do the by my sword gesture at the start and end of every match.
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THE WALL AFTER YOU MET THE PURSUER CAN BE BROKEN FOR A SHORTCUT?

FUCK MY LIFE I DID THE WHOLE FUCKING LOOP IN ONE GO
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Does anyone else find Bloodborne's soundtrack sort of lackluster compared to those of Dark Souls proper? I mean when listening to them outside of the game.

There's a few pretty good songs like Cleric Beast and Lady Maria, but most of the rest just don't appeal to me. On average most of them are better than a lot of DaS2's songs, but there's no equivalent of Sir Alonne, LGK or Burnt Ivory King, which really get me pumping. And then you have the soundtracks for DaS1 and DaS3, which have numerous songs that really knock it out of the park.

Personal opinion and all that, but I'd like to hear others' thoughts just to confirm my level of shit taste.
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>>183144449
pic or you gay
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>>183144109
>summoned
Spin Wave or Duel Bow

>beat an invader
Two-hand greatsword and spam block

>ally gets hit by grab attack or initiates visceral on boss
Spam "Very Good!"

>beat boss
By my Sword or Bow, then walk to the bonfire and Rest

>>183144449
The powder kegs stacked against the wall are your hint.
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>>183144463
>there's no equivalent of Sir Alonne, LGK or Burnt Ivory King

Every DLC boss theme.
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>>183144102
Nvm, just tested. Dagger's better.

>>183144361
Really? I thought they nerfed the crit rating so the Rapier was better. Guess I'll go pick it up.
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How do you feel about healing during arena duels? Does the opponent using something slower like med/great heal feel more acceptable than the instant guarantee of heal aid/projected heal? How do Tears and regen stacking lie in this opinion?
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>>183144663
>spam block
When someones does this I label him as autistic
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>>183144597
Gotchu a vid:

https://youtu.be/q5WepaarKp8?list=PL57hJfweW_2t9hMXgGAYZF46ouOlvXy5b&t=716

>>183144663
>The powder kegs stacked against the wall are your hint.
BUT IM DUMB THO
I thought it was just for the firethrower to blow up/for me to bait the guards downwards into killing themselves
Which mind you they kinda are and they would have revealed it I guess but I just avoided them like the plague
Fuck, man
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>>183144463
Dude you have such horrible taste.
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>>183144109
>summmoned
Wave / Cheer

>defeat an invader
Nothing; run away / onward as if he was just a regular mob

>After beating a boss
Collapse
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>>183144950
>Nothing; run away / onward as if he was just a regular mob
This when the guy sucked
Why even bothering giving him attention
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>>183144926
Oh THAT wall.
You seriously didn't know about it 3 years later? The firebomb hollow never blew it up for you?
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>>183144463
they're different styles. DS2's OST is mostly a hype track, whereas BB's OST is mostly atmospheric.

Production quality, composition, and creativity is far better in BB though
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>>183145037
>3 years later?
I started playing like a week agoI always killed or avoided the fire hollow
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WHY DID MIYAZAKI REMOVE ASCETICS

I JUST WANT TO FIGHT LORIAN AND CHMP AND SOUL AND NAMELESS FOREVER
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>>183145323
*WHY DID MIYAZAKI REMOVE FUN
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>>183145323
Nigga just go into NG+
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>>183144691
Laurence is just a retread of Cleric Beast so I don't really think it counts.

Ludwig's is on the weird side, the first half just doesn't feel right in contrast to the boss you're fighting. The second half is good but doesn't quite make up for the first half.

Living Failures just sounds like a Batman song. Decent, but not great.

Lady Maria is pretty great, as mentioned.

Kos starts out pretty good but it kind of gets generically fast-paced in the second half.

Again, maybe just shit taste, but I don't feel that most of the Bloodborne soundtrack can compare to songs like Ash Lake, Ornstein and Smough, Kalameet, Executioner's Chariot, Darklurker, Aldia, Gundyr, Yhorm, Homoprinces and Gael.
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>>183145657
>Laurence is just a retread of Cleric Beast so I don't really think it counts.
We're talking about the songs, not the fights.
And Laurence's song is nothing close to Cleric Beast's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3XXGmu-dw
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Which weapons benefit the most from the darkmoon blade buff?
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>>183145567
>going all the way through the linear trash pve again just to fight a boss
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>>183145323
the real question is why they removed ascetics but didn't put chalice dungeons in

DS3 and DS1 are the only games without some way to fight bosses without going to NG+
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>>183146057
Demon's?
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>>183145323
Boss
_Twin princes
__Defeated____________0
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>>183145830
>Anything with already native magic damage but can be buffed
>anything small that hits multiple times.
>Paired weapons, which have 1.5x modifiers for buffs

since the first category doesn't exist for magic (I think) anything in the second category is best
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>>183145830
Fast and/or paired weapons
Weapons that scale with Faith
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>>183145956
You could finish the pve in about 3-4 hours if you aren't shit. : )
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>>183146265
Drakeblood is the only one, I think
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>>183146392
It's not about having trouble with the enemies, it's the linearity and complete blandness of all the levels conjoining into a literal turd.
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>>183146392
>in DS3 people defend having to play for 3-4 hours just to fight a boss a second time
>in DS2 people hate having to play for 15 minutes in the arena match to get a cracked red eye orb

the double standard is real
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>>183146758
>>in DS2 people hate having to play for 15 minutes in the arena match to get a cracked red eye orb
Or you can cut that time in half by just grinding executioners, whose CREO drops are Common-tier, in SOTFS.
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>dicking around to invade as faithful
>parrybaiting those dudes that shoot fire
>3 of them swing at me at the same time
>I parry them all at the same time
huh..did not know I could do that, I've never seen it on youtube in pve or pvp
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>>183147173
Yeah, parries don't care how many people are swinging, just that the timing is right. You can still only riposte one at a time unless there's a buddy ready to jump in.
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>>183147145
Man, I remember farming Alonne Knights for greatarrow drops just so that I wouldn't inflate my SM. What a horrible system.
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>tfw I actually like road of sacrifices
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>>183145830
Buffs add a flat number (based on spellbuff) to a weapon's AR, so if it's a small weapon with a high attack frequency, you'll be adding that flat numbers to a lot of hits. Brigand Twindaggers is a pretty nasty one since you also get Quickstep as the WA.
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>>183148148
The only thing I hate about it is the Corvian staff-wielder at the end of the initial trek who can screech and cause literally five nearby melee ones to transform and bum-rush you at the same time before you even cross the stone bridge. I always have a bow ready for that specific encounter.
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>>183148127
I'm very glad that we got weapon memory as a means of stopping twinks, but in a perfect world, it wouldn't count weapons lying around in your item box and unable to be used
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>>183148371
just run past everything
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>get summoned with red sign for pontif dude
>get him down to a sliver of hp
>about to use a fire bomb
>but decide to beat him honorably instead
>he then uses his estus
>precedes to go through almost all his estus as I repeatedly knock his health down
>points down when he beats me

Part of me thinks he was just trying to fish for hate mail.
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>>183148494
That would obviate picking up a lot of the loot, some of which is pretty good and/or mandatory for builds.
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>>183148575
At that point you should have run through mobs and start plinking him with arrows, he wouldn't be able to log out and wouldn't be able to summon another guy to duel since he's out of Estus.
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>>183144728
If you're a passive fuck who let the other guy get away and cast a heal, you deserve it.
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Wow, Vordt's hammer really is digustingly good at low-level invasions.
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>>183149683
Yes, the frostbite buildup is stupidly good, if you catch a guy with an R1 the second one is virtually guaranteed to proc the frostbite and kill them outright. There's a reason why it's a favored twink weapon.
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>>183142583
>SL120
>invade
You're at least 40 levels too high for that, son. Only place you'll find actual activity is in the DLC zones, SL120 is purely for duelfaggotry.
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Why does Gael have spooky skellingtons coming off of him?
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>tfw you guard break someone's Shield of Want and riposte all their meme vigor away
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>>183149683
It's ridiculous. So is any frost or two handed STR weapon really.
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>the moonlight fucking sword has B scaling maxed and does split damage
Why is this allowed? Every Souls game should have a pure magic/fire/lightning/dark weapon. Y/N?
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>Downscale Dragon form phantom in Watchdog woods tries to parry 2-handed Vordt hammer

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>183151470
I concur
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>>183151470
Demon Scar. Unless you mean one of each
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>>183151790
One of each, and Demon's Scar is a p2w weapon locked behind DLC paywall anyway.
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Is there a reason to use any other weapon?
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>>183151850
No it's not and if it was, it wouldn't invalidate it
>>183151894
Poise
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>>183151272
>people are still using shield of want
Will the plebs ever learn, also was he wearing piss-pants?
also
>anita
what is rong with you
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>>183151973
What's wrong with the shield of want?
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>>183151007
Because he ate the Dork Soul, brah.

>>183151470
The split damage doesn't matter in this case because the physical damage is shit enough to ignore anyways. And MLGS only really exists as a carryover from King's Field. I'd be for a pure elemental melee option for every damage type, but most are good enough without needing that.
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>>183152053
There's just plenty of more efficient shields, that either way less, give more stamina, or have better stats, & a better weight ratio. The shield of want is a noob magnet. It looks decent though. It's commonly used in conjunction with the piss-pants armor, & a katana.
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>>183151272
Shield of Want has decent stability at +4, it would be one of the better medium shields in the game were it not for Black K***ht Shield existing.

>>183151850
>you can drop it for others for free
>locked behind a paywall
I don't know why people even use paywalls as an argument, a Souls game is not considered complete unless you have all the DLC. PtDE and SotFS both integrate the DLCs into the base game seamlessly after the fact, TFFE should be considered the "complete" version of the game as well.
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>>183152563
People will find literally any excuse to try and justify not liking something
See figure 1 "Luci still complaining about the agape ring not existing"
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>>183122351
If you finished Bloodborne Old Hunters the DLC bosses will be roughly the same tier. Champ is a good fight but sifficulty wise I'd rate him on par with Gascan : the parrying just obliterates him.
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>>183152224
Shield of Want is actually one of the better shields. It has similar stability values compared to shields like Sunset, Stone Parma, Sunlight and Silver K***ht, while weighing less than or equal to most of those. The only shields that are clearly better are Lothric K***ht and Black K***ht shields. Plus it's one of the few medium shields that lets you use WAs (of all the above, only Black K***ht also lets you do that), which is a positive since parrying with medium shields sucks ass.

It has the negative stigma attached to it, of course, but it isn't fair to blame the shield for that.
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>>183153302
>parrying Champ
The only people who should ever do that are the ones who've already beaten him at least once in a straight fight. Parrying him kills the fun of the fight, just like with Pontiff.
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>>183153493
Fuck you, dexfags. He has infinite poise and never stops attacking. When ever is it supposed to be my turn to use my Yhorm's Machete? I had to parry him.
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>>183153596
So use rolling attacks, those are fast enough if you time it at the end of his combos. He also has huge windows after his jump attack and when he twirls the halberd at the end of some of his combos.
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>>183153596
Use timed charged r2s you fucking casual. If you hit him with a few charged r2s he'd fall to his knees and receive massive counter damage. But nooo, you can to completely bypass your moveset to fight. Makes you think, do you even like big weapons or just the numbers?
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>>183153596
I was using the Bastard Sword on my first run and I can't parry for shit in 3, and never had much trouble finding windows to attack the Champ. Maybe I was just lucky with RNG, but I didn't find him all that agressive.
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>>183153778
Greataxe rolling attacks have no range.
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>>183153854
So hug him. Champ isn't a human player who knows about spacing, so there's nothing stopping you from rolling into him since he won't try to dodge or make distance.
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>>183153961
His attacks reposition him too much.
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>>183154029
If you absolutely can't, 1hand
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>>183154084
That's not a bad idea actually, but if you 1hand you might as well parry with the other hand.
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>>183153493
If beating him the way devs intended for you to do kills the fight then it wasn't that good to begin with and I'm definitely not going to start intentionally handicapping myself just to give the boss a "fair fight". If you kiss a parry he'll rek you. Risk and reward.

And I have beaten without any parries but that was on the pc when my fps was shit enough that parrying was entirely too risky for bosses.
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>>183154296
>image_for_ants.tga
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>>183154180
>if you got a vibrating toothbrush you might as well stick it in your ass
what the fuck am I reading
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>>183154343
If I made it any larger, it'd look even shittier. I don't think the joke's worth it
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>>183154370
I see no fault in your analogy.
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>>183154421
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>>183144728
I use tears and I max heal if I have the opportunity to
People usually get mad and start claping hands therefore I stopped using heal to opponents who salute me at the start of the battle
The one who rush me can go to hell
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>>183149124
Good bait kek
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what are some good/fun weapons to use left hand

mostly looking for moveset variety
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>>183156214
crossbows, rapiers that parry, valorheart
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>>183087896
how did the player die here?
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>>183156214

Crossbows are good if you're using defensive weapons like Greatswords that don't have much in the way of a chase

Greatswords themselves can be handy to have offhand if you're running an aggressive weapon, as it allows you to switch to trading

Pikes give extra poise and can be good for getting a heavy leo ring counter if you time it well

Yhorm's Machete is infamous for a left hand weapon due to its speed changing if I remember right

On a FAI/DEX build, having a blessed Scimitar offhand lets you do very good damage when 2-handing as well as giving you a parry tool
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>>183156214
Scimitars and most curved swords are pretty cool; they allow you to parry and attack. Really great when paired with a heavier weapon like a greatsword or a great axe. I have always loved the idea of an offhand fist weapon. Spontaneously punching someone in the middle of a greatsword combo never seems to get old.
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Was raw dsa nerfed? I just got invaded by some dude with it at fairly low level (30) but it did shit for damage
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does anyone have the latest tier list?
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>>183156584
>left arm valorheart

why?
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>>183156909
>he doesn't know
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>>183156997
>he uses that bait
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>>183156909
You get the sword but it still has the defense values of the shield.
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>>183156909
It gets the ss 1hr1 with the block stats of the shield. Not anything amazing, but it's the best offhand ss unless you're doing a status build
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damn, willy is a fucking cunt at low level. thankfully he's dumb as bricks and thinks catalyst=spellcaster
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So, thanks to the help of a very kind anon I was able to beat the Gravetender and get the Valorheart yesterday

Now I'm loving it, but I'm noticing that enemies seem to be doing the same amount of damage through my attacks, despite it apparently having the "block on attack" trait that the FUGS used to have on certain attacks

Do I just need to time my attacks better? And what's the ideal way to make the most of this weapon?
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>>183158375
It only blocks at the first few starting frames of an attack, and only has 60% reduction (35% for elemental) so it won't block attacks fully.
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>>183158375
It is like, the only weapon that requires skill.
You have to manage stamina and try not to get guard broken.
Also, the hit boxes on it are fucking precise. I find more often than not, I miss the weapon art stab. If I do not hit it with the tip, I just slide off of them.
It is painful to learn, I have spent days trying.
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>waste over 60 hours trying to beat Slave Knight Gael with a melee two hander large weapon class
>spend the entire time trying to figure out his movement patterns
>keep dying endlessly
>never be able to get his health below 20%
>give up on that character entirely
>start a pyromancer run
>get to Gael
>beat him on my first try
T-thanks, FromSoftware!
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What's the lore behind Ariandel not getting any damage before the fight and not dying after it?
>>183158815
I'll take "things that never happened" for 200
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>>183158815
>melee two hander large weapon class

So you staggered him every third hit.
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>>183158815
greatsword 2H is the easiest way to beat gael
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What's the most annoying cunt build for invasions in ds3?
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>>183158815
You sound like a true shitter
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>>183159418
milwood greatbow at the cathedral rafters.

force spammer in catacombs of carthus

obscuring ring for both

basically any build where you hide for 20 minutes and then bounce the opponent of into a death fall.
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>>183159418
Low level Vordt's.
Millwood Bow + Obscuring Ring.
HP regen tank in extremely early areas.

There's not much, really. Nothing's really guaranteed when the host has so much going for them.
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>>183159418

SL 15 +2 poison ghru knife & blood bandit dagger. wear a combination of catarina & smough armor, be at 99.9% encumberment. quickstep your way into legend.
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>>183159615
Sounds boring and unreliable
>>183159617
A nice idea t b h
>>183159817
This sounds pretty cuntish

I have collectors edition so I might try all of these
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>>183159027
Chaos Bed Vestiges are OP as fuck.

>>183159124
Yes. I always ran out of stamina by then though. My build was probably shit.

>>183159165
How? Do I need to overlevel? I was around 120 when I gave up.

>>183159463
Yes, I am.
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What is the most kino weapon to fight Gael with?
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>>183159891
>Sounds boring and unreliable
Welcome to DS3.
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>>183159958
Gael staggers if you hit him with a greatsword 2H. You can roll-R2 repeatedly. As long as you spam roll to avoid his major attacks (the grab attacks, lunges, etc.) you an do a quick 2H R1 combo.
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>>183160140
gundyr's halberd
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>>183160321
I never even thought of that. I guess I really am a shitter.
>>183160140
https://youtu.be/DIruTJyWPPY
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>>183156903
>>183127598
>>
is it me or is demon's souls just kind of... boring?
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>>183160689
it has less flash and hype because
>much lower budget
>focus on atmosphere / RPG elements over combat or story
>no marketing / publisher meddling, so not made for casuals and E3 cutscenes/demos

People don't play DeS for the hype or excitement, they play it for the atmosphere and level design. It's a simpler game.
>>
i just finished memeborne and now it's time for DS3

parries are way harder in this game but everything else is just... better. lack of rally took me a bit to get used to.
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>>183161096
better than BB? Or better than DS1/DS2?

DS3 is an awesome vertical stack, but it's weaknesses are in the overall structure and lack of replay value.
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So this is how a throne room of a majestic castle looks like, huh.
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>>183161214
Better than both.
>>183161096
Does anyone actually ever came to rely upon the rally mechanic in that game? It might be something helpful in the first couple of areas on your very first playthrough, but against enemies that matter rally is rather irrelevant.
They do too much damage to try and go in to try to get your health back with rally, because you're just risking to get oneshot.
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>>183161214
>lack of replay value
Why? It's the one I put most hours and completed the most times of all the souls games, so there's got to be something there.
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>>183161376
Kurwa
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>>183161214
DS3 is my second game in the series so I don't know about the previous games. Everything feels more open to choice though and I enjoy it.

>>183161417
Rally is more of a pinch hit in boss fights.
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>>183160140
Any weapon as long as you are wearing the Thrall Hood
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>>183161628
>Thrall Hood
How humiliating.
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Does hollowslayer and/or artorias' greatsword deal additional damage to gael?
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Considering running a Corvian Greatknife. Is it at all worth it? If so, what's the best infusion for it?
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What is, in your opinion, the top possible bullshit build

The build so cheap it should've been nerfed into the ground when they were still patching
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>>183162443
it's a good weapon and it works best on a quality build
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>>183161376
Is that the DX9 version? It was fully lit when I went there in Scholar.
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>>183162519
Any straight sword build.
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>>183162443
raw with dmb or 30/30 dark infused
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>>183162291
Yes. But for some reason Wolf kn***t sword seems to lose its extra damage during the second and third phases.
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>>183162654
What an interesting lore implication hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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How do I do a bleed build?
I've got a 60 dex, 35 (40 with hollow infused caestus) luck, and using bleed infused mankin claws, sharp crow talons +rouge or poison infused corvian scythe.
While it works in PvE, because the first two can stunlock enemies into oblivion, especially since they barely use stamina, I just can't make it work in PvP. It seems near impossible to actually bleed someone out, and even if it does work, I'm not sure if the damage is higher than if I were just going full dex. Any tips?
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>>183163190
I remember the hollow infused grave warden twinblades were popular back when I tried a bleed build. R1 into WA was an instant bleed in some cases.
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>>183162519
DS3? Pve or PvP? Invading or arena? SL?
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>>183078436
I'm back from vacation and will start to work on the picture for the A E S T H E T I C Weapons

VOTE
https://pastebin.com/qBkCy5eE
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>>183163367
hollow and rouge were nerfed to shit iirc. bleed infusion is the new hotness. ccgs and ccs are pretty gud i heard
>>183163190
you can roll through bleed. the particle effect plays out and the meter goes away, but no damage is dealt. use that to see in how many hits you bleed them and try to make the bleed happen during a 2 hit combo. it takes practice and quick thinking, but it's possible. of course, you could just go sharp with 70 or so dex and do actual damage without relying on the enemy getting caught that particular moment
>>
Why is the age of dark so bad?
>>
>>183163676
Well, good for bleed infusion, I guess. It was pretty much useless before.
But hollow infusion was really only used on weapons with innate bleed. Did the changes make it useless in turn?
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>>183163531
Voted, cool stuff. How many votes have you managed to gather so far? And when do you expect to finish the list?
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>>183161376
It's a fake
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>>183163690
Oolacile
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What is better when youre baked;

Doing a ds1 run for the first time

Or

SL 50 invasions in irithyl
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>>183161603
>Everything feels more open to choice though and I enjoy it.

DS3 is the most restricted for choices, except for BB, so you're really going back through the franchise backwards as they moved closer and closer to BB style gameplay.
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>>183160928
>focus on atmosphere / RPG elements over combat or story

I don't really agree with the sentiment that you can't have good combat AND good atmosphere. I understand that with DeS the series was still searching itself but trying to defend the clunky combat with "b-but it's not the focus! muh atmosphere!" is just dishonest imo.
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>>183163870
>age of fire is bad because Izalith
lol k
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>>183163871
I've never been "baked" but from what I heard, SL1 is a good choice
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>>183162654
>>183162291
He's abyssal in his first phase, he becomes hollow in his second phase.
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>>183164030
>>183164030
>>183164030
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