/svg/ - Shadowverse General

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HATE NO
HATE MADE

Haven will be worse than blood after nerf.

>not copy the nerf bat news into OP
one job

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More than 5 cards being nerfed, including legendaries
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/887244868245798913

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ITT we laugh at anons who said legendaries would never be nerfed. Post yfw

>>183067930
HAMETSU NO HATE NI NANJI GA BATSU ARI
It all makes sense now...

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>>183068036

>>183068036
>the game's meta has gone to such shit that they have to nerf legendaries now
sasuga KMR
sasuga cygames

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>>183068036
>mfw many faces

reminder if Haven goes untouched it's going to be the next dominating deck.

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>>183068150
Thank you.

>>183067930
playing eachtar is so satisfying

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I kind of want to get back into it, but i already deinstalled the game and honestly they've lost my trust forever by designing a card like spawn. The card gives me the impression that they don't give a fuck about the game, so i won't either.

I'm fucking pissed because the game can be really fun at times. But my confidence in cygames just isn't there.

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>>183068036
I said that they wouldn't but I'm glad that I got BTFO

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>>183068036

>>183068237
>general is dead
you clearly don't go on many generals

>>183068274
If you uninstalled why are you still here. If you've moved on, then move on.

>>183068274
>but i already deinstalled the game
>still posts here
Kill yourself you cancerous piece of shit.

Nerfs are irrelevant, where are the leader polls?

>>183068497
>nerfs are irrelevant
Kys bandwagonfag

>>183068497
on mid July they will announce it :^)

>>183068027
Guesses on the cards that are going to get nerfed?

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Why do people complaining about Tea Time?

>>183068782
Go figure.

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>play a card
>it does not remove opponent's board, fill my board and discard all the cards from opponent's hand
trash
when will they actually print cards that do something when played

Concede all over my face senpai
38278

>>183068782
I dunno with them, ESL-kun. Tea time in itself isn't a bad card, sure it's strong when paired with garuda but it's a lot more fair compared to the neutral crew

>>183068274
The next step is leaving /svg/.

Fly you fool.

>>183068931
>but it's a lot more fair compared to the neutral crew
so what do you think is going to be strong after they all get nerfed? hmmm... I wonder...

>>183068036
>ITT we laugh at anons who said legendaries would never be nerfed.
Sorry to break the party. Like (You)?

>>183068869
Thanks Carabose bro you are the cutest thing I've ever had on my phone.

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>hags ACTUALLY defend this

>>183068018
>6 to face and huge followers
Take the blast from the early curve aka Aria or Neutral and there you have it.

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>>183068383
>>183068970
>>183068491

i dunno. i kind of like the game. and my account should still be there if i wanted to get back.

and admittedly this is the best move they could've made at this point in time. but funny enough, even this won't cut it. there are more expansions to come in the future, and they've already shown me that they can't do it.

>>183069089
>dragoncuck getting outramped
Gotta hear that roar of yours, son.

>>183069089
>greedy hand full of trash
>didn't ramp
>he think he gets to complain
happens once in a blue moon and only if you are retarded enough to keep doing nothing pretending you didn't see it coming from a mile

t.blood main

>>183069089
Just Sybil bro , she is broken XD you deserves more nerf let Blood and Shadow untouched :DDD

>>183069307
>ramp
>when she has goblin leader, snow white and alice in hand
kys, i used 2 spells to clear that shit

>>183069307
He fucking ramped 2 times because that's his craft mechanic and still lost. Cygames just can't into anything.

>>183069228
Focusing heavily on neutral killed the game brah.
No amount of changes can fix that. It's time to leave this and all other CCGs behind.

>>183069537
Dragon can indeed do it since
>2pp, 1pp basic removal

>>183069228
Think like this. SV is still better than irl, as asshole as it get from a company nothing can beat all the surrounded retardation irl.

>>183069346
>dragoncuck mad about sybil
She's aegis and eachtar level of cancer. They are just different types of the sane illness.

If they touch these three, alice and spawn I'll actually spend money in the game.

>>183069346
Geez, dude. You got fucking triggered hard. Maybe take a sip of tea or something.

>>183069864
Fuck off back to C rank shitter. Go play t2, that's what Cygames wants shitters like you to do.

>>183069864
>still complaining about sibyl
kill yourself AA rank faggot

will i get banned if i send friendship requests with "kill yourself" to bloodfags

>>183070419
Try something less harsh like "bandwagon piece of shit" instead

>>183068380
>general is not dead
lol

>>183071503
reddit?

>>183071587
discord?

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Need a concede at 80115
Thanks in advance.

>>183071710
What are those girls about to do to that innocent meido?

>>183069228
Go back to /hsg/, retard.

>>183071702
skype

>>183071710
Thanks vampy chan

>>183071812
she's about to get spitroasted by their huge futa cocks

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>all those nerfs including legendaries incoming
Guess I should spend my gold on WLD instead of saving it for the next expansion.

>>183068782
Because Soldier is overstatted and give way too much value.

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>>183068036
>and it only took for the meta to be a complete cesspool of shit for Cygames to make this decision
I'm one of those people but this is one of the few times where I don't mind being wrong.

>>183072034
>5 for 4/5 that evolves into 5/6 is overstatted
Sybil says hi.

>muh two soldiers
The other one takes 3 turns to come out unless you have Garuda.

>>183071710
me on the left

>>183071710
>biting leg
VAMPIRE
GET THE STAKE

>>183072034
Actually not overstatted at all. A 4/5 evolving to a 5/6 with evo effect is perfectly on curve.

>>183072206
>unless you have Garuda.
there you go

>>183072206
and you can't play Spawn on 6 unless you have Baph.
but wait you do because you didn't get horribly unlucky.

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>>183068036

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>>183069864
>Sibyl
>She's aegis and eachtar level of cancer

>>183072206
I fail to understand your logic, Sibyl is retarded as well. I want to see both getting nerfed.
Also, waiting 3 turns isn't a big deal for Haven and Storm will always have Garuda anyway.

>>183072229
>>183072343
>>183072206
Did you guys just suddenly forget that tin soilder does 3 damage to any minion on evolve?

>>183072343
>it's not okay because it can be cheated with specific card
Just like daria, right?

>>183072401
Yeah but you have multiple chances to draw into baphomet thanks to cards like Goblin Mage.

>>183072574
>waiting three turns isnt a big deal
yeah if you dont mind getting bopped by neutral shit

>>183072672
>any minion
More like anything.

>>183072672
How many followers don't do something on fanfare and upon evolve these days? Like, rune already has 6PP 3 damage that gets better if you have sigil. And you don't even need an evolve.

>>183072771
Just themis bro.

>>183072850
yeah but young levi is also a 4/4 for 6, not the on curve stats of Tin.

>>183072672
You get a slightly better Dragon Warrior for 1 more PP?!?! Holy shit!!!!

>>183072964
Dragon Warrior can hit face? HOLY SHIT

>>183072964
>can hit face too
>still on curve stats
>btw you get another one for free when you play eagle next turn haha
yeah just like Dragon Warrior.

Menes it's simple. If Tin Soldier get nerfed COCK need to be as well. And I'd be fine with both due to insane raw power and synergy like Shadow should've.

>>183072964
You can get a second dragon warrior for free in 3 turns or less? Holy shit!!!

>>183069864
So this is power of havenfags?

>>183073267
>5PP 4/5 do nothing on turn 8
Woah.

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Can't wait until they nerf flower princess, what a broken fucking card holy shit :^)

>>183073460
actually it's 0PP faggot. kill yourself.

>>183073460
>turn 8
THESE GOLDEN WINGS WILL END YOU

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M U H
U
H

>>183073579
>>183073612
0PP or not, it doesn't matter. Either you pop it early with Garuda, or it will come out too late to save your ass.

>>183073462
Well /svg/ thought neutral forest was going to be T1. It even won all the simulations!

>>183073731
Why do lolis wear fishnets

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How did we went from:

>we will never nerf legos
>we don't care about self report data
>we think our meta is perfect
>our testers are smarter than you

to:

>we will nerf legos I promise!
>pls don't give up he game yet here's free packs
>we know the game sucks right now
>we'll nerf mostly everything don't go away

>>183073842
Save what. You only need one

>>183073992
The weight of a year's worth of powercreep finally caught up to them. Retarded blizzard-style balancing didn't help

>>183073842
yeah same with Spawn.
either you play it early with Baph or it's too late by turn 8.
but turns out curving out isn't hard.

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M U H
U
H

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>>183073992
I have no ideia dragon bro but it seems Discord still want Rahab to be nerfed. As you can see in this pic it's too strong even for WD!

>>183074156
Why nips call eachtar as hector? How do they call this guy then?

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I really surprised how often hagfags defend their shit so hard in /svg/
>someone call Elana cancerous
>le D rank
>someone call Aegis cancerous
>le do nothing
>le game not going past T9
>someone call Storm cancerous
>le muh dragon
>someone call Haven cancerous
>le shadownigger

>>183073992
>>we will nerf legos I promise!
I just got here who's saying that?

>>183073731
This card is so fucking broken

>>183074481
DELETE THIS I AM CHEMO !!!

>>183074363
ヘクトル (Hekutoru).
Eachtar is ヘクター (Hekutaa).

>>183074481
That's just how big of faggots haven users are. Sword never defended Albert, Shadow never defended Eachtar, Blood never defended Spawn, Dragon never defended le zell + saha + baha combo but only Haven and Forest defended their bullshit cards.
>hurr roach is balanced counting takes skill !! durr Aegis is turn 9 do nothing.
Those guys can fuck right off.

>>183074514
Stephen does.

>>183074787
Eachtar goes by hector dude

>>183074927
>Stephen does.
Where, when and to who did he say it?

>>183074902
>Sword never defended Albert
>Dragon never defended le zell + saha + baha combo

who are you trying to fool? even in this thread you can see serious sibyl downplay

>>183074902
>Dragon never defended le zell + saha + baha
Actually they are

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>>183068782
>why are people complaing about a 5 mana amulet worth 8/10 in stats

>>183074902
But Roach is balanced

>>183075191
Not when pre-nerfed goblin mage existed.

>>183073992
3 expansions worth of bad decisions finally reached breaking point.

>>183075272
that was over 5 months ago

>>183074156
AWAKEN

Just spent 1k gold on WLD that should've gone to next expansion. Not gonna miss out on this vial boost.

Are we getting packs

>wake up
>hear announcement of major changes including legendary cards
>sitting on 2 Abyss, 3 Aegis, and 3 Eachtars
I'm going to have so many vials I'll be able to afford wallet dragon now.

>he still

>>183075694
>>hear announcement of major changes including legendary cards
Where? It's not on the official shadowverse news page and nothing is linked in the OP.

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>>183068727
>>183068036

So I got to dominate the meta for an entire month AND I get back all the liquid spent doing it? You're the best, Cygames. I can't wait to oppress all you fags with the next T0 deck after the nerfs.

>>183075694
You, bandwagoners, are really disgusting

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>people complaining about a 2 turns play that requires 2 EP

>>183073992
Because numbers are dropping fast. The suits at Cygames aren't going to sit and watch a successful product die because the devs are being retarded.

>>183075813
Ctrl+F twitter.

>>183075981
thanks

When the new leader skins tho

Lego nerfs announced:

>Alice cost increased to 5 mana
>Spawn stats decreased to 5/6 > 6/7 fanfare changed to when destroyed on conceal deals damage to self
>Sibyl stats reduced to 5/6 on evolve recover 2 hp per turn
>Ouroboros recover on destroy is removed
>Bahamut cannot attack face under any circumstance
>Eachtar gives +1/+0
>Albert enhance effect only remains for the turn it was summoned. It can't double attack the next turn

>had 5 alice before pressing the liquefy extra button
fuck ME in the ASS
hope she doesnt get nerfed

>>183075069
You're retarded fag.

>>183076286
t. retard

>>183076296
Auto liquefy don't dust legos though.

>>183076286
>Dragon gets the most nerfs
>slap on the wrist on Eachtar
>nerfing Albert on the 7% playrate class
>No Aegis nerf
Go away hagfag.

>>183075191
lol.

>>183076286
Newfags, just drop this game if you can't stand losing to balanced and current unplayable/oldass expansion cards like Sybil and Albert. You don't know what the fuck you're doing. Only WD is getting nerfed.

>>183076519
that's all?

>>183076497
It totally does, though?

>Sybil and Albert are unplayable
Not even worth a @

>>183076286
don't forget to nerf fafnir and beast dominator while you're at it

>nerf inconsistent deck/unsure data Dragon straight up
>tier 0 shadow get catacomb "nerfed"
>1 month later they "nerf" Reaper
>Kys Blood left untouched
What did Cygames mean by this?

>>183077341
>nerf inconsistent deck/unsure data Dragon
(You)

>>183077341
>nerf inconsistent deck/unsure data Dragon straight up
Dragon had higher winrate at high ranks than Shadow. It was just played less because it's fucking expensive.

Alice is a safe craft now right?

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Here comes some real skill.

>>183076996
Full-Albert is unplayable given that neutral, Midrange Shadow and aggro destroys anyone before turn 9.

>>183077341
>KYS blood is consistent
Yeah, try drawing bel every game.

>>183077524
Part of its low playrate has to do with it being a wallet deck too.

>>183068036
>B-BUT SKULLFANE WAS IN BETA! IT DOESN'T COUNT!

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>>183077551
How good is Oz in take 2?

>>183077567
what the fuck is "full-albert"

>>183077524
>winrate
Lies. Play rate. Play, not winrate, never winrate. And why Dragon was that playable? Because of Shadow and all the board flood that only LB could deal with, only 7% of the time though.

>>183077750
>5PP refill your hand
Sounds like a plan for me.

>>183077584
You don't need bel. The opponent does that job for you when you don't draw it. Blood's followers also slowly do it, which is more than sufficient.

>>183077753
You can't go full Albert on turn 5.

>>183077753
A deck of 40 alberts

>>183077753
The old """"""mid""""""" range sword that carried the class post nerf RoB.
It sucks now because it got no new cards while everything else got better.

I think draw system is rigged for non neutral crafts and control in WD

>>183078036
>your opponent left you at 11 on turn 5
>cannot drop airjammer for massive swing
What now?

>>183078178
>sword returns to its rightful place as walletcraft

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Is meme band viable at all? The only success I have with this deck is beating on dshift.

>>183078239
>flood the board with 2pp 1/4 follower
What now?

>>183078212
>It sucks now because it got no new cards while everything else got better
>let's not add Sanic, CoCK, Shield of Flame to the mix
Is this what swordfags do? Just complain because there is no broken shit?

>>183078405
why would you play a deck with no broken shit if all your opponents on ladder are playing decks with lots of broken shit? are you new to card games?

>>183078297
>3/6 Dragon Fairy
How

>>183078381
And how are you going to flood the board with imps if your jammer is not at full potential? Play them one by one?

Fucking grimnir topdecks are the worst. REMOVE THIS SHIT

>>183078527
You know someone got to GM with Sanic, right? When the cancer that is neutral blood was figured out?
>5PP 3 1/3s with ability is not broken
Oh vey.

>>183078529
I was only able to send 1 fairy to death because my opponent kept wasting her bounce on them.

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>Play Spawnless Cat Blood
>mfw I'm winning and having fun

>>183078547
>flood the board
Just wipe off the enemy's board using Diabolic and combo with General like you usually do.

>>183073992
Surely another powercreep expansion will fix it!

>>183078710
Just has storm, ward and bane, all on different followers for 5pp, shit really

>>183078821
>having fun
Maybe because neutral decks are RNG based decks?

>>183078927
>11 defense
Nice meme. I don't even play blood.

>>183078976
>5PP for 3 3PPs
>5PP for 9PP

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54824

Please concede.

>>183078821
I hope you draw 2 non-neutrals.

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>tfw your three aegis is in the bottom 9 cards of your deck

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>>183079001
>He doesn't have perfect draws every game

>>183079045
>le COCK is 3/9 Zeus for 5pp meme
Kill yourself you tremendous retard

>>183079045
Just wipe their board then, pronto. You're leading the match now.

>>183078821
6PP 5/5 draw 2 is already OP
>bonus 0-4 face damage

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>Alice buffs +1/+0 to neutrals on field, +0/+1 to neutrals in hand
>Feria changed to 3/3 on evolve, only buffs +1/+0
>Tove drops to 3/2 and loses rush
>Abyss gains no stat on evolve and stays at 6 damage, loses ambush at beginning of turn
>Hungering Horde dropped to 2 damage
>Tin Man dropped to 3/4 to 4/5 on evolve, damage dropped to 2
>Lion increased to 8cc
>Aegis changed to BnB effect, dropped to 7/7
>Lucious changed to deal 1 damage AOE, if it does damage to Goblin, Goblin Leader, Goblin Mage, Goblin Princess or Goblin King, destroy them
>Rabbit Ear Attendant increased to 4cc
>Sibyl loses the life gain effect
>Eachtar increased to 8cc
>Zombie Party increased to 8cc enhance
>Crimson Sorcery changed to 2cc: deal 4

No changes to Forestcraft

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Why does this slut heal and why does she have bane?

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>>183079062
A-Anyone?

>>183079283
Cock is obvious power creep, stop trying to defend it

>>183079298
>wipe board
>they throw another out
Nice themis

>>183079283
Yes, tell me how many times you don't have to remove that 1/3 bane.

>>183079369
Thank god you'll never be in charge of changes in your entire life.

>>183079417
Because you'll get free vials in august out of her.

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>>183079417
because that's what blood cards usually get

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>>183079464
>>183079062
Thank you Ding Dong... thank you.

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>>183079830
>tfw you join the room but someone already conceded

>>183079417
And why she has 4 HP?

Obligatory reminder that in addition to the obvious nerfs on cancer in this set, they also need to nerf Bahamut, Grimnir, Dshift, Aegis, Seraph, PTP, Mordecai, and basically any other single card wincon for this game to get back on track. There are several layers of cancerous meta that need to be purged, taking off the current top accomplishes nothing.

CoCK is balanced.

Just themis bro
Just conflag bro
Just master Levi bro
Just BKB bro
Just double ETA bro
Just use your own CoCK bro

>>183079521
>can get rid of the biggest threat of a 5pp card with 2pp removal
Wow what a waste

>>183079952
>Mordecai
Dark Alice too?

>>183079417
Seriously why does this have bane? I though that was mainly a shadowcraft thing, it should be on a weaker minion if other crafts want to have it. I seriously believe it was supposed to have ward or something instead

>>183080052
>implying there is no feria or Alice in the game to buff them

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>>183079875
We all know that feel.

>>183080256
>destroy your deck
She's balanced :^)

>>183080357
>he doesn't know how DA deck works
Mordecai is balanced too

>>183080320
>+7pp plays in 6turnsverse

>>183080268
Blood sucked at non-squishy removal. If there is a Bane follower that you should complain about it's Scyther.

WHAT THE FUCK GUYS I HAVEN'T PLAY IN A WHILE BUT THIS GUY JUST PUT AN 8 ATTACK MINION WITH STEALTH INTO PLAY ON TURN 6 THEN HIT ME FOR 16 WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS MORE CANCER THAN ROACH BOUNCE

>>183080771
It's getting nerfed by the end of the month. Chill.
Enjoy Shadowverse.

>>183080256
DAlice would probably be okay if Grimnir and Bahamut didn't exist, the problem is they do. She's just a really fucking weird card in general though.

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>>183080771
But he played a turn 5 do nothing.

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>>183080567
I meme with it all the time
>No Lucifer
>No Foul Tempest
I'm poor.

>>183080771
litteraly me when I came back

>>183080771
It's a memey card :^)

>nerfs haven't even came out
>/svg/ already complaining about other cards before they even get to see the new meta
Not surprised. People here cannot live without complaining.

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I fall to Cat meme.
You will never trick me again

>>183075421
Baaaaaaa

Need a concede, pretty please
ID: 67879

>>183081187
I'll stop complaining one Cygames fixes their shitty game

>>183081571
Thank you, Forte

>>183081229
You are doing it wrong. In order to play the full unga bunga neutral cat, you don't put any spells on your deck, only followers. Then, you have a 50/50 to win vs spawn, if you get a premium draw

>>183081893
what neutral cat can do against BnB elf?

>>183081187
I'm a such sissy i come here everytday just to cry abou the meta i hate myself pls i'm a crybb

>nerfing MORE THAN 5 cards INCLUDING LEGENDARIES
How the fuck have they not fired their entire playtesting team after this shit?

>>183082860
They're going to commit sudoku now that they ashamed their ancestor

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>>183082443
Haven't been playing that much, only dailies, so I haven't encountered a forest BnB, and if I have I killed them at turn 5 or 6. Been using this, plus 3 cats, 3 gobs and 2 merman not shown in the picture.
If you get a half decent draw, and the opponent is not haven, you can usually win at turn 6 or so. Is vital to NOT put Spawn, Emeralda or Scarlet in the deck or Hector and Cat won't work

I hope they're also nerfing Aegis and Eacthar.

Or else this game will become shadowhavenverse.

>>183082545
>look at me im such a grownup because i complain about people complaining xd

>>183068036
What if they buff other legendarily to Alice/Spawn/Eacthar levels instead?

>>183083274
i literally hate my life and complain everyday about a children card game

>>183083245
>what if we make this expansion neutral based lmao
>oops shit we went too far better pretend it didn't happen lol
Enjoy 2 extra months of ToTG.

Since they confirmed a legendary nerf is it safe to craft spawn to farm these next 10 days or is KMR baiting me and is actually going to nerf snow white, aegis or Oz so blood wins more?

>>183083381
>anomeme gets storm if 2 cards were played this turn
there

>>183082860
Wait links pls

>bloodbabs already deflecting to haven now that its confirmed their month of tier 0 is going to be up
Really hungers my horde

>>183083450
Alice is pretty much guaranteed. Not sure about Spawn. It's possible that they just nerf Baphomet.

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>>183068036
>by changes they meant buffs to legendaries instead
>"Because of the nerfs to these bronze and silver blood cards we want to ensure Spawn can effectively end games so it will now have Storm in addition to its other effects"
>"Thank you"

>>183083560
Oh right. I guess ill keep playing cat then to enjoy the last days of tove

>>183083545
Read the thread.

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>>183083193
>half decent draw
Not possible. My draws looks like this 90% of games.

Is it childish to bm like a retard against blood when winning ?

>>183083797
I see the problem, you are playing forest

>>183083916
Craft doesn't matter

BnB won't be nerfed right? It's the only thing keeping Forest alive.

>>183083842
Yes. You are supposed to not only BM, but also rope them.

So the players jew won? they will nerf legendary card just because of fee fee?

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I've been thinking of adding Gruff Mauntaineers to this
Any ideas what to cut? I'm thinking mainly Feena

>>183084050
>lowest winrate/playrate craft
Why would you even consider that as a possiblity?

>>183084162
Yes shadowniggers win.

>>183084237
You don't know KMR as well as I do.

Fuck off Dshiftniggers

>>183084287
Everyone except bloodnigger win.

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I hate Elana and neutral rng trash

>>183084450
Im sure everyone misses getting eachtar'd yes.

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>>183073992
i just don't understand why these idiots do this. how the fuck do they not understand what powercreep does to a game? no matter how many cards they nerf they will never ever be able to truly undo this.

even if you argue that powercreep is necessary for sales, you can still do it a lot more slowly. i'm just fucking baffled how a card like spawn made it past the concept stage. it's earlier and better than albert and it has no downsides whatsoever.

FUCK cygames.

>>183084005
Joking aside, on some days I get 7 win streaks, and in some others I lose 5 or 6 games (not in a row) before being able to complete my dailies, all with the same deck.
It's like playing Dragon and praying to RNJesus to draw Oracle on the first 2 turns, shit's rigged as fuck

>>183084572
I honestly can only attribute this to incompetence. I wouldn't be surprised if their playtesting team got fired after this like that other anon suggested.

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English translation for WoB when?

>tfw khemo will rise
tks cygames not even shadow can't deal with khemecraft

>>183084572
>and they had guts to show ppl how Spawn works in E3
spicy

>>183084851
>Midshadow is positive against Haven
You wish.

Lost 1 game and lost 122 points. Then lost again and got +22 points. Wtf?

>>183085042
>meme data
>unlock the banish to deal with early game and more chemo tools

>>183084820
what i find especially funny is that a lot of their choices are perfectly fine and even fun sometimes. but there are always a few choices that are braindead as fuck.

it's almost like there are a few people in the team who understand TCG/CCGs and then there is this one retard that just does stuff randomly without any understanding of value and resource management.

>>183081229
just baph > cat > 4 damage lethal

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LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE

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I only play Dragon and I'll say this, Dragon will be #1 easy after nerfs hit. Unless they hit a Dragon card which I really hope they don't and is unwarranted.

94796
Concede onegai

>>183085524
It's not like she likes you or anything.

>>183085145
Compensation for playing against blood so much

>>183085575
>tfw no mommy dragon miko to cuddle in the pool
Just look at this magistic body and tummy

>>183085503
>cat > 4 damage lethal
I draw Baph

>>183085575
I'm inclined to believe you
Saha Ramp has been my best deck for climbing so far, though I can't see how the meta will change after the nerfs, could be unforgiving for dragon.

>>183084572
Playtesters at cygames are literally retarded.
Remind yourself that they left anomaly as it is "because it left a big impact on thetesters" even if the producers literally knew he was complete fucking shit. They have no clue on what they are doing.
Look at all the incredible blood cards that were released in this expansion. What the fuck where they even thinking, they can ALL easily trade 3, or even 4 for one with literally no drawback.
Why the fuck does spawn get to have that much health even if he has the ability to kill you from any range on turn 7? And why the fuck does he STILL punish you even if you play around him with random removal or wards, making only ONE class actually able to someone deal with him, and only thanks to lucky draws?
Why the fuck does sabreur have so much health while having bane, removal reach AND heal ALL by herself?
Why in the fucking fuck BKB has an evolution tier effect on his fucking fanfare, and gets full evo gains?
WHY THE FUCK TOVE HAS RUSH?
"We didn't focus on any craft" my fucking ass. They wanted to push lood to tier 0 for no reason and they did it.

>>183085575
Haven is still has an advantage over Dragon this expansion but I'm thinking that's probably because a lot of Dragon decks run super defensively right now because of all the neutral shit. It depends on what changes and how much more Storm/OtK focused Dragon can get.

I'd actually like for Wyrm God and Windmill decks to become viable.

>>183085575
her face looks odd compared to her body desu

>>183085852
And what does Baph do again?
Don't tell me you have other targets than the cat

>>183085958
The testers aren't retarded. None of this is accidental. The last thing they missed due to oversight was Goblin Mage in fucking January.

>>183086052
Read Phantom Cat description.

>>183085634
Plz Hlp

>>183085250
Yeah. I still can't do anything but praise their approach to Vengeance Blood in the last set. They managed to not only make Blood's previously worthless class mechanic viable, but also good, not broken and fun, while keeping its whole concept of risk vs reward intact.
At the same time, they print absurd cancer like Catacomb, make stupid design decisions in regards to Anomaly and print do-everything cards obviously meant to carry or overpush classes like Eachtar and Sibyl, and, then, a single set after, destroy class identity by making Neutrals absurdly strong and completely ignore what they did to Blood previously by just giving them stupidly strong cards that completely ignore the class's mechanic.

>>183086285
>5PP 3/4 1/4 1/4
>not broken

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>>183085634
Thanks again Bosse.

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>>183085958
I still don't get why people don't understand why Anomaly was kept as is
It's the same reason why people want Roost back it gives them an idea to build decks around even if they're not fully competitive
Anomaly has an interesting effect, it's garbage yes, but it still satisfies both the Timmies and the Johnnys, that's good design imo.

>>183086285
As a blood player i hate the current state of my craft and miss kys blood the patrician deck

>>183085042
Midshadow was barely positive against haven in ToG after 1st nerf. Now reaper is nerfed and haven got snow white and teatime.

>>183085958
Thank you.

>>183084217
Certainly Feena. She just doesn't make the cut anymore. Gruff can trade favorably against BKB, BnB and he allows you to keep an evo in some cases, which is crucial in some matchups.

>>183085987
I always ran 1 poly to fuck over haven. If dragon plays poly early against haven they might as well concede

>>183084217
get a knife and cut your wrists

>>183086435
Go look at the cards Forest got in ToG. They were obviously trying to make Control Forest viable. They even said Anomaly was supposed to be a Control finisher. By making Anomaly a complete meme they not only fucked with Control Forest, they made the entire set completely worthless for Forest ONCE AGAIN.

>>183086435
While I do agree his effect is really interesting and all, you can't just print him when there are NO cards that can sinergize with him properly while also dropping a bomb like eachtar on the meta and expect anyone to actually try him out. Playing meme dicks is fun when you get to pull out your memetic bombs once every 20 games or so, not once in 100 games only because you played against a guy that was playing fighter.

>>183086435
It's not good design when Forest has been unplayable for two expansions and needed something to push them back into viability

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>>183085987
>>183086701
Hold the phone
>Poly roar to start chipping away the board
>Wyrm God
>Then the next turn all you need is Urd for the OTK all the while Poly Roar is giving you monster tempo
Now if only Dragon could afford two t9 do nothings

>>183086871
Maybe they should give control forest a board clear

>>183086435
how can it satisfies anyone if you only able to pull it once every 100 matches?

>>183087059
With a properly constructed deck it works 1/10 matches :^)

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>>183086906
Coincidence that the most healthy metas have had forest as tier 1?
I think not.

It wasn't very strong wasn't very usable

"Why did you have to change it?"

It left a big impact

and now it's here

>>183086435
I think it's shit design because it doesn't belong in Forest. It's combo potential is extremely weak, and doesn't fit with or help any of the archetypes they were pushing for Forest.

The card's effect makes way more sense in classes like Dragon, Haven or Blood.

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>>183084830
>tfw no cheerleader card on swordcraft
They are missing an opportunity here.

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>>183087156
>forest was tier 1 during DE and RoB
it all makes sense now

>>183087156
There's no correlation between class tier and meta quality. There is, however, a direct correlaton between number of expansions and meta quality.

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>including Legendaries
>mfw actually pulled 4 alices 3 spawn, only for this moment

They are going to nerf Eachtar, r-right?

>Got all dolled up in her expensive dress and glass slippers
>Her only purpose is to man a pirate cannon

>>183087223
Is that a 1/1/1 or a 7/7/7
God I hate this font

>>183087596
You wish.

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>>183087598
Forgot pic

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Remember, as bad as WD is, the game will never be THIS bad

>>183087682
I want to dress up like that.

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>>183087682
>>183087598

>>183087747
I want to dress you up like that.

>>183087148
>Shadow
Eachtar kills with 2 zombies
>Dragon
Bahamut
>Haven
Themis
>Sword
Roland
>Blood
Revelation
>Rune
Mutagenic Bolt
>Neutral
Dance of Death
Only left is Forest itself with 4% playrate so 1/10 is way too high :^)

>>183086972
Wyrm God is pretty bad against Haven because they run Naoise and he cocblocks her effect. Poly is still good because it's constant pressure Haven can't deal with.

>>183087705
Eachtar is better than this.

>>183087705
what game is this lmao

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>>183087610
It's 1. This is a 7.

>>183087705
It's basically powercreeped Fangblade

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>>183087620
>they're going to nerf x legendary right?
>">nerfing legendaries", "you wish"
Shadownigger quaking in their pedoboots

>>183087985
I'm a runetumor, actually. I've never played shadow.

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Did I include everything? Anything else that MIGHT get nerfed for god knows what reason?

>>183088220
Eachtar

>>183088220
Yurius
Themis

>>183088212
Why say "you wish" then, shouldn't you have said "I wish"?
You can't hide from me shadownigger

>>183088220
sibyl

>>183088294
If eachtar gets nerfed I'll vial my entire collection on stream

>>183088341
They won't nerf legendary cards like yurius

>>183087985
why is luna so cute

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>>183087223
We have Ginger.

>>183088349
Eachtar only really bothered me back in ToG, I don't even get mad when I lose to it anymore.

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I just mulliganed 2x Emeralda + Spawn and got this. How it's not rigged?

>>183088220
Shit, I didn't even think of Teatime and vialed them already. Elana doesn't have the WR to justify nerfs, Storm Ramp will return to chemo that shit.

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>announce that nerfs will happen to some obviously overpowered and annoying cards
>but not now lmao enjoy shadowverse
How does he get away with it

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>>183088487
I forgot about her.
I wish I had another Zeus and Abomination so I could give this Ginger meme a try.

>>183088495
your fault playing control

>>183088492
>only bothered you when it was the only t0
You do realize it's still insanely OP right? Once blood is nerfed shadow may come back.

I sitll believe that beauty and beast is a fucking busted card. Thank god that forest only got them and TEA because I really don't want to face them.

>>183088382
Just like anon who said he'd buy 30 standard packs?

>>183088648
What do you mean may? We WILL get ToG meta back if they hit all the strong WD cards.

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>>183088495
STOP

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>>183088801
Out fucking skilled

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>>183088424
She's only cute when she's whining and crying from being tortured. Nothing is better than abusing lolis.
I'm jealous of the burglar sometimes.

>>183088738
They're running the same neutral cancer as everyone else, and yet have the lowest class WR and usage. It's not Spawn, Eachtar, or even Albert good.

>>183088941
She is like /svg/ then?

>>183088801
Beauty and Beast is the only card that gives me joy playing Forest for my dalies.
It's funny how the opponent, except it is Rune, has no idea how to handle that card.

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>>183088801
>>183088495
I hope you brick every game until July 29th.

>>183088801
Dude cut Vampiric Kiss why the fuck are you using it? I imagine your game would have gone a lot better if that was an actual 2 drop. You're not skimping on 2pp followers to goblin mage into baphomet are you?

>>183088941
Stop being mean to my daughterwife please.

>>183088801
I see your problem. You aren't playing neutral.

Post yfw they nerf grimmnir

>>183088648
>Once blood is nerfed shadow may come back.
I'd rather play against a tier 1 deck than a tier 0 one. Now that reaper got nerfed, their early game isn't as good as it used to be. Currently, I can easily beat shadow with saha ramp, dirtrune and aegis haven. And I could easily beat them with daria back in ToG. I don't mind playing against them.