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BRING BACK THE DUK Edition

= NEWS =
>Ultimate Tekken Bowl trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs [Embed]
>Geese Howard DLC trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA [Embed]

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU [Embed]
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94 [Embed]
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8 [Embed]
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o [Embed]
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg [Embed]
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs [Embed]
>Low parrying
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U [Embed]
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0 [Embed]
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI [Embed]
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM [Embed]
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU [Embed]
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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>>182980739
I want Dokter back!
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YoshimitsuXLeo doujin when?
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>>182980739
More like:
>[Embed] Edition
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Really though, how will you know when you are actually good?
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If you refuse a rematch for any reason other than lag, kys.
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>>182981068
When you stop thinking online ranks matter.
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Still missing the best girl
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Is PS4 connections wonk or are people dodging me for some reason
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practice
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>can only rematch once
Why not just make it best of 3? 1-1 leaves everyone unsatisfied.
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>>182981068

When you start placing in the money in tournaments
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>>182981291
>PCucks
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>>182981068
16dan is a bench mark, and honestly if u reach genbu you're legit good at tekken
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>>182981229
heihachgi mishiba :DDDD
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>>182981291

PS4 already got the patch where you can get infinite rematches. PC is getting it soon.
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In japan, if you're overly buff and muscular, you're gay. But if you're a pretty boy, every woman in Japan wants you
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>>182981446
based gooks
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>>182981446
You can say that about any country or region in the word.
The same goes for the exact opposite.
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>>182980921
I don't think it makes any difference at all, i still get better results on DS4 than on my xbox pad or keyboard. Tested DS4Windows and steam's driver separately.
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Play Mashimas or else you're a scrub
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Show me your Kazumis and Lilis, I need some ideas.
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>>182981840
no, I play honest fisticuffs man of hot mothers
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>>182981840
But I play Eliza instead
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>>182981840
i wonder if tmm makes his gf dress up as Jun
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>>182978648
>>182978392
f+4 trades with jabs if d/f+1 hits, it's 19 frames and d/f+1 on hit is +9. It can be sidestepped though so be wary.
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How do you use Gigas's d+3+4?
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>>182981840
you're a scrub even with mishimas
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>>182981171
She plays a decent role in the comics tho, so there is still hope
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Turns out I have actual Autism but not the good kind that makes me good at videogames but the bad kind that really makes somsone say ''jesus that guy is autistic''
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>>182981912
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>>182982558
Me too anon
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>>182980739
>every missing characters returns
>except shuffled in Mokujin
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Nina mains who do you sub? Looking for someone similar to her but less difficult because I'm fucking trash

I'm interested in Law King and Jin not sure they fit the bill though
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>>182981840
Does Jin count? He's kinda hard to play thinking about giving up desu
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>>182981754
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-street-fighter-5-face-off

The input lag introduced by those drivers is greater than the input lag difference between the PS4 and PC versions of Tekken 7.
If you're fine with that I have nothing more to say about the matter.
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>>182981840
t. King dodging scrub
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>>182982685
Jin it is then.
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>>182982786
I saw him fight a King when he was practicing Akuma and he got bodied hard. He was mocking the guy then got destroyed. And then he was like "uuummm that King knew what he was doing I guess."
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>>182982558
haha me too
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>>182982597
Thats really shitty but thanks.
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>>182981058
he's probably making the best Tekken guides right now. all of his shit is super easy to understand, he has the credentials to back up what he's saying and he always seems to be legitimately excited for whatever character he's talking about and really gives it to you straight.

in his claudio tutorial he straight up says "claudio is really cheap and that makes him fun"
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>>182982723
why do people say he is hard to play? he has a high skillcap sure but he's not hard to learn
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>>182981840
>not Shaheen
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>>182983082
Hard to play either means difficult execution or a high skill ceiling/lots of shit to remember and implement.
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>>182983034
>sperging Lili hater posts again
heh, predictable ;)
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>>182982779
Well since Tekken supports dinput natively, i'll try playing with all external drivers disabled and see if I can feel any difference. Thanks for the info.
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>>182982656
Replace Mokujin with Dural as a guest character.
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>>182983082
I feel like I have no way of opening people up besides hellsweep and I cant do point blank hellsweeps without eating free damage
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>>182980739
I'm still missing my main man.
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https://youtu.be/HD7Ge_h2Wq4

Asuka has an unbreakable tackle that does around 44 damage and gives a free f+2
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>>182983734
how did baek play like?
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>>182984403
like a spastic hwoarang
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who is the cheapest character in the game in terms of free wins
and why is it lucky chloe?
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>>182984537
perfect for a spastic like me.
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>>182984678
Don't you mean hwo

You need to be actually good to make use of a garbage character like chloe
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>>182984403
Like hwoarang but even more annoying
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how the fuck are you supposed to learn anything if people leave after one game? bad enough it takes 5 minutes to find a damn match.

this lobby system is absolute garbage.
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Why did Aris keep saying "everything changes in 2 out of 3; 2 out of 3 makes this character viable" shit like that?
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>>182984762
Quick match in player matches
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>>182984756
i wish he was in this game then so i can stop trying to learn hwoarang
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>>182984817
excuses to justify broken tierlists
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>>182984817
Maybe it's a character that's easy to beat once you adapt to the player's habits with them.
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>>182984817
Tier Lists are based on sets of 10+ matches
2 out of 3 rounds is nothing in comparison ie. tier lists mean nothing in tournaments
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it feels like my opponents are always faster than me even when I use my 10 frame punishers
wtf am I doing wrong
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>>182984886
that's exactly where i am. no one plays for more than one or two games, especially if they lose the first and win the second.
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>>182984817
Because tier lists are based off long sessions
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>>182984817
The only tier lists that matter are the ones made by JP/SK players, and they are for marathon sessions for arcades. In a best of 3/5 any character can beat another if both players are close in skill level.
Anyone who bitches about tier lists in tourney or online just need to improve more.
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Remember that it is always valid and morally upstanding to dodge Akuma
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I've won 0 out of 6 games today
how am I supposed to learn anything if people my rank are this good?
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>>182985734
What rank
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What would a tierlist based on a tournament setting (3-5 matches) look like, then?
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>>182985734
winning is not learning. As long as you learn shit even when you lose then that is improvement.
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>>182984817
The tier lists you see tend to be based on very long sets (I heard first to 100, but I am not sure how accurate that is). The difference between a first to 100 and a first to 3 is in a first to 100, you have much more time to learn your opponent's play-style and gimmicks, meaning the character's tools become much more important.
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>>182985851
Jack is at least S.
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>>182985865
I'm getting gang raped so hard and so fast that its over before I could tell wtf happened
>>182985830
my highest is brawler but I'm trying a new character and I'm at mentor right now
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>>182986049
>brawler
>mentor
>people this good

Plug your brain
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>>182983079
>watching his tier list video
>"I had made a 2 hour long version where I went through every character"

fug I wanted to see that
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>>182985851
>SSS
Jack, Dragunov
>B
everyone else
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Why are there never any high placing Alisas at tournaments?
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>>182981912
If I could color the character's hair while still having a hat, I'd turn Lili into Bulma with the bunny outfit.
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>>182981965
Probably not - TMM hates pretty much all female characters in Tekken. Except Kazumi.
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Is the move where Feng waves his arms around like a retard punishable?What's the notation?
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>>182986380
That would be way to hard to script.
There is no human way to change your hair color AND that of your hat.
That would require intense workload for namco.
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>>182986564
>Except a Mishima

hmm...
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>>182986601
Nigger go in practice with the framedata bot and make Feng do the move so you can see it for yourself.
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>>182986601
gotta be more specific haha

but if it's the one I think you're talking about it's df2,2
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>>182985851
mostly just relative to the long set tier list
jack, kazumi, dragunov, shaheen, asuka, yoshi, feng, chloe move up
bryan, steve, hwoarang, lili, lee, king, claudio, lars move down

the rest more or less stay the same imo. maybe mishimas move down, too, but that just largely depends on the player on that day.
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>>182986601
You're talking about db222 it's low low mid and it's safe on block
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>>182986808
why would hwoa move down
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wait, does this mean Geese will have a special chapter like Akuma?

Are we going to get to fight Nightmare Geese?
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>>182986620
Especially when they're already working around the clock to make black custom hairstyles possible.
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I main Feng, I know his 10 string button for button and animations to animation

Yet I cant low parry or block it when some random 3th Kyu Feng does it

So emberrassing, i'm trash
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>>182981229
call him Betty
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>>182986897
Some characters can parry the last hit.
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>>182987152
Its insane they took up this project, just imagine, true black on not default hair styles.
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>>182986808
everyone safe and easy to play are top tier

everyone else is below
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>>182987152
dont forget trying to release a new DLC character by winter even though he is 100% complete
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This was a lot easier to do than before I can't tell if it was because of me or Leo.

Now I can't decide on whether or not to learn a new character get my other guys up to green.
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>>182986947
might also depend on the player, but if you play wild with hwo vs someone familiar with him, you get punished and launched a lot for trying out wild stuff before getting much info, and these alone can lose you short sets. like, there's a lot of complaining about hwo here, but a fuckload of his stuff (strings in particular) is risky and/or not real. but if you play conservative, then you're playing a slow game in a short set, which is also not that great for the tournament setting.

i mean, the character kills you in two combos on a wall stage, but he's a lot easier to deal with offline where you can at least be kinda precise and pick your spots better in neutral. basically this >>182987456
there's a reason jdcr switches to drag when he's not feeling 100% on heihachi. even though hei is a pretty safe poke character, he's still a mishima.
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>>182987495
shittest hair in the game
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Question to katerina players:

What moves do I do when they are crumpled or on the ground?
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>>182987495
Yes you are awesome.
Next pick Eddy, King and Paul to green.
You are very much skill and totally not everyone can do that with them, especially with Leo.
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Even though it's a meme, how many hours do you think it takes to become actually good with a character?
I don't mean "go stomp a tournament" good, but more of "able to compete and do reasonably well"
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>>182987915
>>182988009

What is wrong with you?
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will you never succeed in this game if you can't juggle?
>fight someone
>i'm doin pretty well pokin pretty hard
>I make one mistake
>I'm in the air until I hit the wall, then I'm at the wall until I'm dead
>this repeats infinitely until I get demoted

it seems like everyone just practices one combo and it fucking works
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>>182988115
They're mad they can't beat leo
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>>182988083
prob around 200 assuming you have previous years of fighting game experience
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Does asukas b3 low crush as well?
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Trying to decide between Tekken 7 and Injustice 2, how's my boy Lars in this one ?
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Square, octagon, or circle?
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>>182988347
nowhere as good as he was in t6 and tt2
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>>182987640
so someone like Feng, who also does pretty monstrous damage and pressure but can play a safer game, would fair better?
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>>182988403
Square is shit. The others depend on what you want.
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>>182988347
>playing Chip Damage 2
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>>182987940
bls resbond
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>>182988347

he looks like a mongrel
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>>182988172
Look, just find a launcher that works for you and then start experimenting. Thats what I do. Then you start throwing your custom comboes in matches. Then you start practicing the best comboes to use them.

Its all small steps
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>>182988347
He's good
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>>182988172
Juggling is simply this game's versions of max damage combos. The same as jump in combos in SF and so on. If you can't learn your character's juggle combos, especially from WS punishes or whiff punishes, you're missing out on significant damage, especially if your character happens to play around conditioning and punishing / counter hits. This also results in you never pushing to the wall and gaining wall pressure and securing rounds, creating 50/50s, etc. You're essentially asking them to make 6 mistakes to lose instead of 2 because you choose to punish and damage for significantly less than what you should be doing.
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How much damage does asuka get on her combos. Wall included?

Like 70?
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>>182988172
Just find a combo that works off of multiple launchers and practice that.
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>>182988881
the fuck are you talking about
asuka shits damage and wall carry
literally 90 damage combos off regular-ass launchers because everything carries across the stage and wallsplats for gorilla damage every time
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>>182988482
overall, yes. not to say hwo doesn't whiff punish well or has to go to the wild stuff to do well, but it's just cutting a chunk of the character that makes him great in a longer set and as an overall character. but you make for that in being really smart on defense and movement in neutral, and luckily hwo has pretty good tools for those compared to previous versions of hwo.

he's a better tourney char now than he's ever been (which speaks volumes to how good maddogjin was back in tekken 5 and 6 in tournaments), but his weakness still shows especially from lesser hwo players who can be reliant on the wild stuff or who aren't so stellar on defense.
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>>182988172
Story of my life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJggs3QujYo
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>>182988825
I would say they're basically combos in general in this game.

Most characters really don't even have hard juggles.
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playing against a lili, how do i get off the ground? feel like i get hit off every option and get sent on the floor again.

rolling, getting up backwards or neutrally, trying to hit with a low or mid kick, or just standing there and taking a hit. nothing works and i'm just eating so much free damage.
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>>182988347
Injustice is not a good game
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>>182989340
yeah maddogjin is absolutely nuts. i'm glad he's making videos again.

i'm newer to tekken and was looking for an aggressive, high damage character and hwo seemed to have that in spades. i've played other fighting games for awhile so the execution doesn't frighten me but i don't want to gimp myself by picking him up.
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>>182981840
I play DVJ and I'm a scrub. Checkmate atheists.
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>>182989310
U serious? 90 damage? From which launchers
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What does
>KND low which puts opponent FDFT
mean?

Knockdown low that.... fdft?????
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>>182989947
face down, feet towards
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>>182989947
Face down feet towards. It's a really advantage position
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>>182989947
Knockdown low which puts the opponent face down feet toward, duh.
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Jesus Christ I cannot deal with master raven.
The fuckin crouch dash into the low can be tilda into a mid or she can just do that mid launcher out of the dash
Not to mention her 4 is a stupid fast ch launch.
Halp me
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>>182989612
i think he's very hard to learn when you're playing to improve. i consider him my main and i still don't play him in tournaments because even though i practice him a lot and play him a lot, i still never feel like i'm at a good spot where i can beat someone with 100% solid hwoarang play. but i can do that with feng, shaheen, or even bryan.

but if you're looking for aggressive high damage because those are part of your strengths as a player, i think you should pick hwoarang immediately. i picked him up because i am a generally patient and defensive player, so hwo's ridiculous offense makes up for one of my weak points and i can shore up his weak points by playing him my style.

it's going to take a long time for me to be comfortable enough to play him in tournaments or it might never happen, but if you want to take hwo's strengths and bulldoze people, i think you should start now. either way, you will learn a lot, and i don't think you can ever hit a plateau with this character.
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Is the alt-tabbing issue really fixed?

I have to make I alt-tab when there is no dialogue prompt or menu loading or else I can't get back into the game
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>>182990403
my biggest strengths as a player are predominantly in yomi/reads, relentless aggression and solid fundamentals. i'm kind of bad at smart defensive play because i like to go for big guesses and my execution is just alright. so i'm still not entirely sure of hwoarang is for me, but then again i haven't really seen any higher damage characters.

i've only ever seen the speedkicks morning bread and butter guide for hwo, is there any other good sources of information for him floating around?
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>>182990336
>her 4 is a stupid fast ch launch
So a regular magic 4?
just guess right and punish
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>>182990572
>have to make sure
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>>182990707
I guess. Seems very fast
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did you guys ever find playing to improve as a beginner fun?

i'm find myself getting annoyed and frustrated more often as if recent, even though i know i suck and am a beginner. i think it's mostly because i don't know what to do, rather than know what to do and trying to implement it..
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>>182990683
Definitely Paul is for you. Besides demo man and deathfist his df1b series is really good and his qcf mixups are good even outside of deathfist. He is a totally based on yomi and rushdown and does a fuck load of damage
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>>182990336
Just stay in her face and rush her down. Block punish and recognizes all her strings that go into a low. Ducking against raven is also not a bad idea.
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I FUCKIN HATE SHAHEEN
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>>182990842
The pure dopamine injection when i realize that i'm better outweights all the salt.
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>>182990683
>>182990846
yeah if you're unsure about hwoarang, paul seems right up your alley. so does feng, actually. sounds like you're one of those guys who needs a hopkick on defense (no offense meant).

but if you want more info for hwo, speedkicks' streams taught me a lot. check some vods on his twitch channel which is /speedkicksatl
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>>182990842
Who do you play and what do u have trouble with?
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>>182990846
we both thought i'd like paul but he was who i first picked up when i started Tekken 7 and i got bored with him after a week. i've tried paul out a few times since then and while he definitely plays to my strengths he gets boring really quickly.

i hate to be a baby but do you have any other recommendations?
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>>182991108
no offense taken. this is the first fighting game i've played where i've really struggle to find a main. i'll take a look at Feng. what's his whole deal?
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>>182990842
>research
>practice
>treasure battle
>play online
>repeat

Build as you go. Biggest tip is don't try to be over reliant on launchers. Most of your damage should be coming from pokes or crushes.
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>>182991195
gigas bruv
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does anyone find that the player base just a million times better some days than others? Like last night I was on a fucking roll, got two promotions
this morning I lost 12 matches in a row and I'm back to where I started..
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>When Feng's db 3 crouches under my mids

FUCK
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>>182991609
Maybe it's you.
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>>182991376
Not everyone plays asuka
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>>182991337
feng is like...paul but safer and less reward but also has access to two of the best whiff punishers in the game and some stance stuff and oki setups that are pretty interesting. he's a super versatile character i recommend to anyone. extremely good at playing basic and simple with lots of cool stuff for lab monsters. his damage from fast counter hit pokes is absurd because of the guaranteed hits you get from them and his combos with wall carry do like 55-60%. he's not so hard on execution, either.
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>>182991609
Every good player was watching or attending EVO
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>>182991337
defensive character with tons of tools, strong crushes, strong lows and very high damage
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>>182991182
i play steve and have trouble with almost everything except hit confirming and combo execution.

i don't know what my opponents characters full strings and lows are, so i'm always getting launched, ch, or chipped, i can't break throws even if i react to it because i don't know if they're 1 or 2 breaks, i have trouble getting off the ground even when going for safe options, i always get hit out of side steps, i almost always get hit with dickjabs when i go on the offense, or get hit with opponents wake up option, even if i'm trying to space far away from it, and just overall confidence in my pressure.

i'm pretty sure most of the things i have trouble with are experience related, so i can't do much other than keep playing.
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>>182991609
weekend players are obviously gonna be more casual than weekday morning players
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>>182991774
what sort of horrible habits could I have picked up in my sleep that made me unable to win a single match over night? I'm playing the same character and everything
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>>182991831
>>182991851
i'll take another look at paul and start digging into feng and make sure to not play gigas. if i don't like paul or feng, i'll settle into Hwoarang for the long haul.

thanks for the help guys
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Has anyone here reached out to their local Tekken community?

I ended up going to 1 gathering but there was this obese guy that smelled like cat piss and it has put me off ever since.
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>>182991195
What do you get bored with?
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>>182992024
gigas is like a difficult paul

fuck you fag
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How do I become an even bigger ass in this game?
My only aim is to annoy the people.
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>>182992154
did he play josie or nina
i bet he played josie or nina
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>>182992403
Play chloe and spam the Wan tuu move, always winquit
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>>182992403
I hope you're utilizing item moves to the fullest
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>>182992294
i honestly don't have a good answer. playing Paul just never felt super enjoyable. like i said, i'll go back and take another look at him. maybe i was just getting matched up against people who didn't know how to fight Paul so I felt like I was winning because it was easier for me to pick up a simpler character like Paul than for the guy who has spent the same amount of time on the game but is trying to play Devil Jin or something so I felt like my good wins were kinda whatever.

i also don't get off super hard on people sending me angry messages about deathfist. it doesn't bother me in the slightest, but alot of people i know who play paul just live for that shit and it doesn't really do much for me either way.
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>>182992403
play hwaorang, josie or paul
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>>182992403
RUCKYYY
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>>182992315
if gigas did more damage, i would play gigas.
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>>182991920
You sound like me when I first started playing tekken. Steve is a character where u can't just pick up at level where u have no fundamentals.

He his very different as he doesn't have good generic lows, no fast launchers and is based around counterhits and small pokes.

Try Bryan he's easy, with a high skill ceiling, is a character that will teach u fundamentals and snake edge is always fun. He doesn't have a fast launcher like the rest of the cast (jet upper should be used to punish) but orbital goes a long way
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>>182992010
consistency is something every player struggles with even if you can't pin down the concrete aspects of what's different between one day and the next
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who is the edgiest character in this game
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What kind of character archetype counters.. whatever it is that Asuka does?
I feel like rushdown just has me getting a reversal, power crush, one of her 20 million throws, a launch for free, whereas poking... has the exact same results.
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>>182992403
never runback. It's basically the most annoying thing possible considering how long queue times are.
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>>182989310
>>182989706

Asuka has ok damage. She usually gets around 57-70 in juggles depending on the launcher and the move you use after the launcher

I think the most damage you can do in a juggle is off a CH ff1 > 4 > ff2,3 > 2, 1, 1+2 > ff2,1

But I haven't tried it yet because CH ff1 is super unreliable
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>>182992874
Bryan or Devil Jin.
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>>182992874
This is reality.
*kicks Xiaoyu down a flight of stairs*
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>>182992593
Paul is borderline broken but he is what you've asked for being heavily reliant on yomi and rushdown. If he doesn't cut it I'd have recommended armor king but he's not in T7. You can try heihachi or Dragunov. They're both pretty offensive characters. Law is another great one and he's pretty hard to learn with all of his dss stuff. Miguel is an offense character as well with good pokes and ch launchers
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>>182992750
Bryan is easy? what? I though Feng was easy and I'm having a ton of trouble with Bryan.
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>>182992575
I would not know he just kinda say there.
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>>182992403
Just play a Bear and always winquit
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>>182992985
delete this at once
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So if I use a move that's +6 on block, can I then throw out a i16 move and beat their i10 jab? Or does will the i16 trade, and I need to use an i15 move?
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>>182993107
Bryan is easy cuz his gameplan is easy
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>>182992750
yeah i know what steve has and doesn't and what his gameplan should be. he's the character i find the most fun so i wan't to learn tekken fundamentals with him, even if i lose a lot.

i think king is cool and played him. i learned his basic launch combos and win a lot but i'm just mashing and not learning anything. i feel like the same thing will be if i picked up bryan and abuse orbitals and snake edge until i go up against really good players.
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>>182993163
Can't keep her all to yourself lili
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>>182992586
Yes, I think.

Whenever I wallsplat someone I throw a fish at them or use the trumpet close up.
Or I dress up some characters seriously faggy and try to hit the heart box on them so that little hearts constantly appear over them and then I just lay myself on the ground doing nothing or rolling around, like saying "please fuck me desu".
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>>182993098
>>182993098
you and the other guys here have already helped me out a ton, i appreciate it. i'll revisit paul and see if he's gotten anymore fun since then, and try out feng and hwo as well.

Heihachi is a possibility but learning electrics will be a pain. I like Miguel and Drag alright. I've never tried out Law but I'll look into him.
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Is Devil Jin harder to play than Xiaoyu?
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>>182993304
The thing is you can't learn tekken fundamentals with him. It's VERY difficult because he is a character that is just strange for the reasons I mentioned before. He has stances, no fast launchers, moves that need to go into stance and be stance cancelled. U have to be aware of the strings u can interrupt, u have to be aware of frame data to fish for ch, no generic lows, etc etc

It is a VERY long road ahead of u
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>>182993163
But why?
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>>182993234
Its very simple + - maths anon.
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>>182993498
No
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>>182993234
trade
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So are fight sticks worth it?
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>>182993498
Yes
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>>182993498
Maybe
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>>182993778
>king has paws on the soles of his shoes
Fuck this character is so lame lmao
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>>182994310
why would look at his shoes
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>>182994039
Nope.
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>>182993298
What's his gameplan?
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>>182994039
Only if you are korean
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Fadango don't ever ki charge me again
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>>182993996
>>182994052
>>182994098
Thanks.
I don't even know why I asked, she doesn't have an EWGF.
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>>182993778
damn she came hard
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>>182994787
EWGF isn't difficult
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>>182994906
Replace EWGF with any other Mishima shenanigan.
That said, I can land his EWGF starter combos maybe once per hour.
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>>182994787
Try accurately using Xiaos AOP d1 on CH.
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Haha... sure love practicing a new character against Paul...

Don't bully
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>>182995114
None of them are very difficult if you're not a complete noob
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>>182995129
if it makes you feel better paul wasn't at evo
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>>182995129
>random ass point blank deathfist because demoman is 100% unreactable so you have to crouch randomly
I'm convinced all paul players are actually apes being studied
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>>182991810
Their loss
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>>182995345
Demoman is reactable though.
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does anyone know why there isn't more Paul at high level play? does he just get figured out by pros?
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>>182995439
it's literally not
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>>182995376
Meh, I find her to have a boring play style and her animations are pants on head level.
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>>182995439
lmaooo
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>>182995117
>>182995267
You have a point.
Should probably stick to Kazumi for the time being, can't handle either of those yet.
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>>182995439
>15f low is reactable
Poor bait
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What can I get out after doing a parry with Xiaoyu?
If my opponent keeps mashing buttons I get a free launcher of my choice but if they actually defend then somehow only sometimes the most I can get is her shoulder attack? Though not always.

How much of an frame advantage to I get?
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>>182995756
You get to take your turn
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>>182995756
When you parry something it basically means they whiffed whatever move they did

So if you parry jabs you get fuck all
if you parry a deathfist you can go make a sandwich and come back in time to punish
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Does anyone else sometimes just go into practice mode to do EWGFs, despite not playing a Mishima?
That crackle of lightning is like heroin for me.
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>>182994525
Db3 qcb3 for lows catch em ducking with df1 3+4 uf4

Get frame advantage, see what opp does then counter it ex they ss u ff4 if they duck u use mid

Get frame advantage and ch launch with f3 or 3+4

Carry to wall and taunt b4

t. Vindicator Bryan
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>>182996131
Yeah sometimes i do this with heihachi just for fun
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>>182995567
I am not a fan of her standing animation, but the rest seem fine to me.
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>>182996019
If you parry with Jin you get a free d3+4 launcher.
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Lost my 5th promo match today

I'm in hell
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>>182996131
No I don't have autism
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>>182996131
Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the EWGF vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but EWGF.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Mishima. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual in involving hundreds of CH DF2 PEWGF loops.
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>>182996818
t. themainman
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>>182996818
Mashimas don't have shit on master raven
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>>182996818
Until you get put on player two side
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>>182980739
He's got some hot feet
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Remember to dodge all kings on PC for the optimal Tekken experience.
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>>182997301
I can actually only do EWGF on player 2 side.
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>>182994039

Depends on your character and what they have to do

King has to deal with people being able to hear GS coming on a fightstick, for example, but shit like iSW, KBD and electrics are much easier.
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>>182996818
>Have an 11 year old cousin who never played Tekken
>Give him D.Jin and show him how to do electrics
>After maybe 10 minutes of trying its all he does

Is he a prodigy or are EWGFS executions simply overestimated?
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>>182997402
*deathcradles you*
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>>182995345

Just stay out of Demoman range and punish deathfist

It won't make Paul a pushover or anything but that's basically the whole anti-Paul gameplan right there: stay away from Demoman.
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I'm in hell
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>>182997674
did you just fucking take a picture of your screen
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>>182997776
It's faster than taking a screenshot with the PC and a lot faster than taking one of the ps4
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>>182997776
Exactly, a screenshot.
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How do I fight this?
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>>182998195
Jerk it before playing so you don't get as distracted
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>>182997402

Or you could learn to break throws and not be a shitter
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How do I get my Japanese friend to take Tekken seriously?

He just keeps posting about failing sales figures in Japan and how he hates Koreans.
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AHHHHHHH HOW DO I BDC
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How do I play Feng? What should I be trying to do or avoid?
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>>182998819

Whiffpunish everything forever
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>>182998753
I don't know why this made me laugh, fucking nips and koreans.
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>>182997960
>press the combination of keys bound to screenshot in Steam

That's it.
And I mean LITERALLY.
The photo has been taken and it's saved on your disk.
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>>182982656
>Mokujin literally hand sculpted his waifu

Now wonder why her tits are so big
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>>182999016

Paul
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>>182999016
I'd say Paul. Since a single fist from him does more than most full hitting strings. Its retarded. UUHHOOOOO!!!
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>>182992874
Lars
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>>182995129
this has nothing to do with the character youre playing though
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>>182999537
Found the Leo main
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yay i got a win
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>>182999324
Then you have to find it and upload it. It I take it with a phone it's right there at the press of a button. Plus you get the same information.
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>>182999661

I dont play either, shut up paul main.
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>>182997674
120 wins at fighter rank means you need to stop playing ranked and study+training mode more focusing on things you observed both from your opponents and also things you can do different or may not be doing at all that you should
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>>182999842
There is literally nothing wrong with 120 wins at Fighter
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>>182999842
The fuck? 120 is fucking fine at fighter.
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>>182999842
Not that guy but why? I just want to fight people.
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>>182999842
It's just hard with kazuya. I have 3 other characters at warrior+ with 100 wins

I've been going back and forth from vanguard to brawler since ~60 wins as Kaz. He just doesn't have some easy tools to use at green ranks
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King players were a mistake
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>>183000240
H O W
O
W
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>>183000240
>120 wins
>2nd kyu
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>>183000309
player match
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>>183000240

Literal child?
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>>182999767
The mental gymnastic behind this post is jaw dropping.
It doesn't make any sense, use your god damn brain and you'll see how every single thing you said is fucking inane

God you're stupid
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So I pirated Tekken 7 on PC and been trying to git gud. Currently been learning Lucky Chloe since she can hit fucking hard, my favourite combo (coffee grinder or something) takes half an opponents health bar if all parts hit, and she's reasonably fast. Going to try and get the basics of her combos and stuff down before learning the mechanics in the videos in the OP.

I like fast characters, also trying to learn Guilty Gear and I main Millia since she is also fast as fuck. What other characters in T7 are fast and maybe somewhat similar to Millia (if any)?
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>>183000240
obviously player matches. You can get to Dan just by losing.
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>>183000192
kazuyas a pretty honest fighter i sympathize with you there

he forces you to work on mid match adjustments that much more which is not really something you can training mode either
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>>183000513
Steve's fast
Xiaoyu is fast
Regular Jin is also kind of fast
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>>182999842
>meanwhile I met several people with 200+ wins in GM
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>>183000715
You know how easy it is using Paul in green ranks? Throw game is legit, good homing, safe mid launcher, hopkick, unseeable knockdown low that splats, good counterhits. I breezed through in 1 day using Paul

U gotta work for every single thing as kazuya. Hopefully I'll make warrior soon next is heihachi then devil jin
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Remove 50/50 moves

Nothing about them is skillfull or fun, even Gigas' rage drive is cancer
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>>183001447
>Remove everything from the game
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>>182998819
lmao just f3,4 f1+2 f3,4 b1+2 when they whiff, free 70 damage combo with the easiest execution in the game. shoulder / 3,3,4,b+3 when wallsplat
d/b3 for pokes, ss4 for easy juggles from a sweep,d/f22 for punishing
easiest character in the game
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>>183000513
xiaoyu has a unique flow that feels pretty good and would be my top pick. next would be paul because his high low is just very effective but requires none of the execution needed for a chara like millia
chances are when you start actually playing tekken youre gonna feel like everyones millia though when they are slamming buttons in your face and you dont know how to make it stop

>>183001151
those people look so silly and i actually feel bad for them because all they are doing is flipping coins and not really trying to play

>>183001168
yeah. i sure as fuck dont have it in me to play the mishimas though i never wanted to and didnt play them in the past
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>>183001519
It would be entirely remove Paul and Leo so I approve
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>>183001447
Yes, lets respectfully poke each other with mids and highs. Also no throws allowed.
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>>183001447
getting someone into the situation where you have a real 50/50 is probably the part that was skillful...
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>>183000513
just try out each character in practice mode, pick what moves you're vibing with, and go along with the character you find to be the most fun.
as for fast rushdown characters -
katarina, law, claudio if you're low IQ
nina, steve, hwo (arguably) if you're high IQ
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>>182996475
You don't
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>Improve on main
>Try sub for 2 days
>Go back to main
>All skills gone
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Why exactly are people upset that Jin ditched the Mishima style and developed his own (cooler) martial art?
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Umm Harada???? I think you have made a mistake. Devil Jin's hellsweep is launcher if you only do the first hit?!?!
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>>183002343
>Play main
>Play subs for 2 weeks
>Main improves
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>>183002412
Nobody is.
Also Devil Jin is just T3 Jin with wings and lasers
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I am now a qualified mommy poster.
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>>183002792
>green rank

no
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Jin not having sidestep moves completely ruins the character for me, it just doesn't feel natural
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RAKKIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>Tfw i cant make any combos because every time i press buttons there are big spaces between them.
Please tell me what i'am doing wrong.
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>>183003041
I still don't know why they decided to remove Steve's SS+1+2
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>>183003041
just hopkick you big baby
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>>183003041

uf2
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I've just lost so hard it broke my will to play anymore today
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>>183003203
you wanna...talk about it
>>
how do i get rid of the anxiety i have playing online? So far ive had 14 matches online but ive only won 3 (LMAO) and i want to get good but i don't want to play other people online (Which is a bit contradictory)
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>>183003203
Who'd you lose to?
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>>183003691
b urself
>>
what is the most hipster pick?
Lee?
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>>183003691
Where are you from? I'm sure there's people here willing to help you practice in a long set.
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>>183003863
fucking Australia, im currently at 6th kyu in ranked since i only play player matches but the only people who i can go up against in ranked are 2nd dan and higher. I get my ass handed to me
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>>183003375
>>183003723
I got kicked over and over again by a Shaheen at the wall and I tried to tech roll out of it twice but it didn't work, he then 3-0'd me in the revenge match and got 2 perfects
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>>183000512
Nice response you retarded faggot. Glad to see you were literally BTFO.
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>>182995129
Aww you didn't keep the long coat
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>>183002412

Nobody is anymore. The issue was with T4 but T5 saw Devil Jin enter the roster with a large portion of Jin's moves from T3.

Personally I wouldn't be surprised people are just pissed off because of how insanely overpowered Jin was in T3 with later games nerfing him.
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>>183003961
>2nd dan
>I get my ass handed to me
Three hours in the lab and those scrubs are toast.
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Can someone post the SS chart?
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>>183003168

Most characters have had staple moves removed from them without any real substitute. I noticed missing moves and combos on Kazuya when I was using him in T7.
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>>183003835

Lee
>>
I'm gonna kill myself if I lose the next game :)
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>>182992874
dev jin by far
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>>183003168
F U C K I N G THIS

U

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K

I

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G

T
H
I
S

I knew I wasn't crazy. I just thought they changed the input or something but nope they just took it out for NO REASON.
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>>183004013
you
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>>183004040
I still have it as another slot
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>>182992874
Don't listen to them, Devil Jin is just a cool guy who likes to chill at the park
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When do we get bikini?
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>>183004672
And you officially admitted defeat
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>>183002645
this has just happened to me
I think really it's because I started to pay attention to frame data when using my sub and generally fighting a lot smarter
now those skills have carried over to my main and i'm actually having fun
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>>183004636
At the very least it forced me to actually learn how to use Steve instead of abusing the plus frames at low level.
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>>183003998
you gonna...go into training mode and see what you can do about that?
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I can't fucking play Feng he feels so God damn clunky and slow
>>
do I use the joystick or dpad on a 360 controller
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>>183005328
neither literally neither
gun to my head id have tears streaming down my face while accepting my 360 pad fate
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>>183005465
ok what fighting thing do I buy
30 hours now and I'd throw this piece of shit into the wall if I wasn't also playing dragon's dogma on the side
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>>183005315
of course, i want to make it into yellow ranks
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>>183005626
A dualshock 4, or a fight stick
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>>183006185
dualshock 3 is objectively better
DS4's dpad gives me cancer
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>>183005626
a sony pad is solid enough
a stick is cool but if you dont already own one i wouldnt bother (unless you find some madcatz shit on the cheap since they went under)
alternatively old nintendo pads are actually really good if you somehow have this option (advanced mode)
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>>183006379
4 is way better to be quite frankly honest
>>
For the josie that just unga'd me to death, good matchers, but a fighter rank shouldn't be fighting 3rd dans
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>>183006379
R2 and L2 on both pads give me cancer desu. But I like the dpad on ds3 more also.
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>>183005316
I felt the same way about Bryan, but the more I use him the more I'm getting used to it. Besides, I'm really enjoying how much damage he can do off of some of his counterhits
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>>183005316
*shoulders you*
SEAYAH!
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>>183006185
>>183006379
>>183006421
ps1 controller with no sticks is the best, the downside is you have to buy a usb adapter for it
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>>183001151
Thata probably normal if it is your first Tekken. There are so many lows and gimmicks you need to learn before you can get out of the low ranks.
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>>183006445
Fuck Josies. Went against one like 4 rsnks above me with literally 50x more wins than me and he left as soon as I figured out his cheapass tricks, got 2 perfect and 3-0 on him. Then he sent me a message calling me a cocksucker
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Shaheen is getting boring. Tryingto decide between Feng, Miguel and Bryan.
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>>183007051
i had a 2 bar wifi user actually send me hate mail after he scrubbed me out and he didnt even mention the lag
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>>183007163
play em all and decide or come back with more to say as to incite a decent convo
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>>183007163
Miguel. Not enough people play him
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>>183000513
raven
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>>183005169
You select the directory where to save your screenshots prior to taking the screenshot, you do it once, fucking mongrel.

You have to upload your picture whether you use your PC or McStupid phone, retard.

You don't get the same information since you literally took a photo of your fucking screen with damn 2M pixel mouth-breathing phone.


You cum slurping idiot what is so hard to understand?
Use that butthead of yours.

Press a button, take a screenshot, upload it, hit post.

Pull out your retard phone, take a photo of your Play-Doh screen, use your sausage-sized finger to scroll to the correct thread, tap your Cheetos-covered finger on Post a Reply, type on your semen covered tactile screen the dumbest shit your mind can come up with, tap with your stinky finger on Choose File, scroll through the thousands pictures of My Little Pony in your 1-800-RETARD phone, chose the correct blurry photo, hit post

What seems to be the most efficient choice?
I really wonder how you can even breath on your own.
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>>183007738
settle down, bunghole
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>>183007814
Don't reply to me
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Any NA PS4 want to play.
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>>183007872
dont reply to me
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>>183007921
sure whats your psn
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>>183007921
Depends
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200 wins in and I feel like I am never getting out of green ranks. It feels impossible to parry junkyard and dragonov's sweep on reaction. I still have trouble blocking snake edge and fengs sweep after an hour of training mode.
Maybe I should just give up.
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T7 is my first Tekken. Which game had the best OST? Im getting tired of the current one and want to play around with the jukebox
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>>183007738
No wonder you're so dumb you're just another AOLer
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>>183008149
3 by far
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>>183008149
Tekken Tag Tournament
2nd place goes to Tekken 4 tied with Tekken 2
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>>183008149
Tekken 6
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>>183008083
HTC21112

>>183008124
On?
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>>183008170
Says the guy who took a photo of his monitor with his mobile phone.
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>>183008407
east or west coast?
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>>183008229
>>183008314
>>183008357
Guess I have a bunch of different stuff to try out
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>>182995129
I fucking hate Paul. Who at bamco thought he was a good idea?
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>>183008546
Mid South
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>>183008810
Only two 1's in your name, right?
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>>183008149
Tekken 3
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>>183008771

Never be in demoman range and never whiff anything and Paul becomes super manageable
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>>183008125
DON'T YOU DARE GIVE UP.
Keep at it. You will be able to block those sweeps on reactions if you stick at it. I thought I'd never get it either but now I can confidently see them coming and react accordingly. You should get a feel for what kind of guy you're fighting after the first round, if they're the sort of person to spam sweeps quite often or not. A lot of green ranks will try and cheese by constantly doing it, but keep at it and it will click eventually and then when you consistently block snake edge you'll have a hard time keeping that throbbing erection of yours down.
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>>183008893
yea I fucked up its HTC2112
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>>183008982
Classic rip
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>>183008982

pls no

Consoles are inferior for every other genre but trying to have a local event on PCs is a fucking nightmare for so many reasons. I've tried to do it.
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>>182995129
>>182995345
The thing about demo man is that it only combos at close range, a range where you can easily punish Deathfist on block. As long as you stay outside that range, he can't threaten a low. And when you are inside that range, the mixup is just as dangerous for him as it is for you.
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>>183007738
>>183008451
>have my phone out already since I use it while playing the game
>take quick pic
>press a button and upload
Here's one for you friend my lucky Chloe costume:)
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>>183008771
Paul was in the first tekken. You fucking 17ers need to fuck off
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>>183009226
>Implying Paul has played the exact same since Tekken 1
>Implying that even if he did, changes to other characters and the core mechanics of the game wouldn't cause the character to function differently than originally intended

How does it feel to be a fucking retard?
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Just got to green in about 60 wins, it's my first Tekken. What do I have to do now or get better at in particular to get to Yellow Rank?
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>>183009359
>Just got to green in about 60 wins, it's my first Tekken. What do I have to do now or get better at in particular to get to Yellow Rank?
Realize that green is a whole different league and your gimmicks will stop working and you'll demote a lot
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>>183009359
Go lose some matches. Find out what you're losing to and what to do about it.
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>>183009359
Learn to defeat scrubs abusing gimmicks.
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>Literally 4 fuckin Mishimad + Lars the semi-mishima

>lol u can't have Armor King, who's been in almost every other Tekken game, he's too similar to King

Also where are Julia/Jaycee and Lei
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First time Tekken player and fairly new fighting game player in general, and learning Dragunov. I'm doing my best to learn combos and use them against my (also new) friends in spars. I'm landing them pretty well when they actually connect, but I'm looking to improve more, but not sure what to practice. Any tips?
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>>182982685
M.Raven
Alternatively stop being a scrub and put the work in to get better as Nina. It's frusterating at times but it's definitely worth it, because like the Mishimas she has an almost infinite skill ceiling.
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>>183009357
>How does it feel to be a fucking retard?
I don't know, you tell me you whiner
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>>183009565

Focus more on poking/playing neutral thatn going for big combos, it will serve you in the long run

Also, this game is whiff-punish central. Learn to KBD and in general bait out a whiff then fff2 that bitch or whatever.
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>>183008995
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>>183009565
Learn instant wr2, tap ffff2 close. Don't abuse your unsafe lows or they will become a crutch and get you killed at higher ranks.
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>>183009661
Paul main spotted
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>>183009794
As if. Drop your tag pussy
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>>183009913
>1v1 me bro

Even if you beat me, Paul is still retarded. What would you be trying to prove?
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>>183010091
Show me all this high level Paul play.
I don't care about your scrubby blue rank was getting tossed around
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>>183000786
>>183001693
Just been trying Xiaoyu and fuck she's fun and good. Not been able to grasp most of her combos but been hitting a few. Done pretty well in Treasure Mode until near the end when I fucked up blocking and got my ass handed to me. I know that's pretty bad since I'm facing AI but I've only played T7 for a couple of hours at most and still am trying to figure out the blocking and movement basics, still can't low block but I had way more fun and success with xiaoyu than King, Yoshi and Lucky Chloe.

I'll give the other ones all you guys mentioned as well.

Also fuck that turbo mode that randomly appears in matches in Treasure mode.

Also going to give the Op videos a watch.

After how long playing would you guys say it's best to switch from AI opponents to online? I'd have to buy the game first obviously but I'd like to have a general idea of when I'd be competent enough.
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>>183009671
>>183009769

I've heard iwr2 is pretty essential as a Drag player. Any good videos on how to learn it? I've watched one before for a bit but couldn't land it.
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>>183010178
the sooner the better dont be afraid of fighting other players thats the entire point of the game
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>>183010175
t. green rank
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>>183010175
But dodging you and watching you sperg out over it gives me way more pleasure than beating you ever could.
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>open game
>enter practice mode
>fail at everything
>fingers get cramped
>quit game
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>>183010493
But I don't give a shit anon. I'm just giving it to you straight. You're a scrub and Paul is fine. Play him if he's so fucking op
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Is Feng the "honest" man's dishonest character?
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>he plays a bear
Enjoy that dodge
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>>183010827
quit posting too
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What's the best way to hit Chloe's rage art?
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Are there any Lars guides that aren't close to an hour long or unfunny joke guides like
https://youtu.be/5JdttTK4_f0
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>>183010847
no
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>>183010879
Honestly this. I wish I didn't hate the bears but they're just dumb and not fun to fight
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>>183010879

Bears 100% exist as a scrub check. They're bad but you have to learn them. Dodging a bear is admitting you're willing to stay shit forever.
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>>183011858
>>183012220
Literally the only characters I will dodge. I'm not wasting my time learning them because there's 5 faggots out there who decided to take them seriously and actually play them
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>>183012220
Not him but I can beat bears. I just hate playing them. They're literal joke characters and I never get a close fun match
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>>183011745

Armor through something
Use it on someone who doesn't know it's low

Hinestly I don't know shit about Chloe but 9/10 times RD is better use of meter than RA

>>183012347

Matchup knowledge IS Tekken m8, Bears are annoying but this is why they exist. Don't be a scrub.
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>try to git good at EWGW whiff punishing
>have to only use EWGW
>cant even beat Dan
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*dodges a Geese Howard player*
PREDICTABO
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Is Lars viable? I'm trying to find a nice fundamentals character, but don't want to sink time into someone I might switch off later.
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>>183011812
>aren't close to an hour long

How long do you think it takes to learn? All the best character guides I've ever seen are like 2+ hours. An hour is nothing considering you're gonna spend hours on the game
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I'm new as fuck at this game. How do I beat Eddy? Just played my first online game against him and I have cancer now.
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Why is Armor King so much better than King?
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>>183013712
dark upper
practical wavedash
cooler outfit
df+1
grounded stomps
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>>183012475
I mean hitting the rhythm game in her Rage Art
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>>183013405

Lots of safe mid pokes, also go into training mode and learn his strings.

Honestly spend a week and learn Eddy so you never get memed on again
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>>183013921
not as cool as the original king
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>>183013405
Safe mids, mids with big hitboxes to keep him honest and out of his stances. Use less highs because he can evade them easily. Low pokes. Backdash away from relax and handstand generally
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>>183013993
Why is cheapest fight stick 50$ while most expensive is 400$??
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>>183014401

Expensive components that provide precision, durability and are wuieter so your opponent can't hear your moves coming as well.
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>>183014401
Why did this post quote an other post wtf?!
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Post rank
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>>183014807

Still blue but not for long
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>>183014807
hi ketae
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>>183014528
Most expensive buttons that you would need for that are only like 10 dollars a button, even less usually. Stick is less than 50. So even with 8 buttons and a stick that's only 130 bucks. A case is really the most expensive part. The controller board is pretty cheap too only like 20 bucks. So when it comes down to it people are just paying a premium for a name and nothing else. You could commission a custom stick that's exactly as you want with the best parts and an extremely nice case for 400 dollars.
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>>183014954
hi
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>>183001629
Post 30 seconds of you playing your Seiryu Feng right now.
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Is there any way to practice general defence and not character specific one?
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>>183014807
I don't want to play Online yet because i cant do strings.
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>>183014807
im blue dabade dabadie
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>>183014807
Still this thing
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>>183014807
I cant even get pass Kyu
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>>183015240
hey dude that's pretty impressive
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how the fuck do you deal with lili, her lows come out so fast wtf
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>>183014807

stopped spamming and gambling, started working on how you're actually supposed to play

this will take a while
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>>183015137

Set training dummy character to do these things at random:

Standard throw
1+2 break throw
Slow low sweep
+ in block mid follow by jab
Jab punishable move
~13 frame punishable move
with block after each non-throw

Then practice responding correctly to each of them
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>>183015240
>you will never play Ageha offline
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>>183016008
dude that's fantastic, thanks so much!
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>>183016008
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>>183016116

Sure thing. Go blow fuckers up with your newfound reactions
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>>183014259
I'm pissed PC doesn't have this yet. We don't have the ranked match patch yet either what the fuck. I own this on ps4 and pc, but goddamn.
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>>183012967
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>>183016008
>+ on block mid followed by jab
What is the meaning of this?
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>>183016476
yes
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>>183016537
A move that leaves the opponent at a plus frame advantage. Meaning they recover faster than you.
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>>183016537

Do a mid that's +on block like King's chest bump or Drag's fff2, then have him do a jab. Teach you not to hit buttons when you're -.
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>>183016562
Perfect.
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How is Josie even remotely fair?

When can I press buttons?
I'll never get out of Vanguard if I can't deal with Josie
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Do Rip and Aris not like each other?
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Tfw I'm going on vacation for ~2weeks next month
Tfw I'm scared I'll lose all my skills
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>>183016917
Rip and aris are best friends m8
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>>183016889
lots of her stuff can be ducked. Also armored moves are your friend unless she spams lows.
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I'm sorry I had to leave so abruptly but GGs. That was the most I've ever fought of Claudio and Eliza, those are some tricky ass characters. Its always fun playing against new people, I'll play with you guys anytime
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>>183016889

Respect her stance and you'll be fine, she seems like she never stops because she's + going into switch stance and it doesn't look like a stance so it just seems like she's doing moves all the time. Go into training and learn her stance transitions
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>practiced Kazuya for a few hours
>alright let's go online
>dragunov
>oh gosh I'm gettin nervous
>not doing too bad, this drag is pretty good tho
>final round and I have 40% hp
>land 2 electrics out of nowhere, do a full combo into rage art at the wall
>win
>he leaves
In that brief moment in time, I felt the soul of TMM enter my body and take over the controller
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>>183017494
If it was really TMM you would have lost and his spirit would have forced you to shitpost about drag.
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>>183008985
Do you know how fucking hard both of these things are?
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I got sick of playing paul/akuma already, what character should i pick up? Still very new to the game desu senpai
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>>183017182
GGs, hopefully our connections don't poop out on each other so I can play more sets against you.
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>>183018027

They're not abnormally hard, particularly keeping him out. And whiffing is always bad in Tekken. That's the game m8.
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The worst thing about playing Gigas is that you have to be straight up smarter and better than your opponent at Tekken to win. He has no tricks or gimmicks except like f, f+4, 2 and even then once your opponent realizes that it's high it's not even that good
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>>183018524

Huge jabs, the mixup on block, that fucking RD

He's not good but he does have gimmicks
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>>183018524
So gigas players are just fedoras
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Yo, is it fine to learn the game competitively with Mishimas?
Or is hitting electrics consistently required to even touch them? I'm like 3/10
Always liked devil jin as a kid.
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>>183018629
>Huge jabs
Doesn't even matter when all of the good characters have a quick WS launcher to blow you up for that. The rage drive is ok I guess but that's about it.
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every single time i open up rommaler's stream he's bitching about something. he literally never stops bitching whining and moaning. amazing.
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>>183018726

Thankfully, Devil Jin has other really great tools to rely on if your Electrics aren't on point. So landing them 3/10 times should be fine.
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ok so im learning claudio and i have the whole hopkick whiffpunishing and f+3 spacing thing down pretty well, just made it into greens

i am now starting to have trouble with defensive players, how do i open them up with claudio? jab -> ss+4/ss f+3/ss hopkick somewhat works, but it gets blown up if they have a read on it and do some homing mid to catch the sidestep, which happens a lot, and i don't really get damage from it unless i take a risk using the hopkick

can anyone help?
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Wish me luck I'm subbing Steve when my main is Kazumi
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>>183018726

LEarn with Jack then move to Mishimas or you'll just be trying to electric all match
>>
What character in T7 makes the least amount of people salty?

Probably the only players I've seen bitch more about characters are smash players and I'll be fair, I'm guilty of bitching as well
>>
Is Gigass good for learning fundamentals?
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>>183019505
You'll have to block a lot with him. So, yes.
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when i leave
you wanna keep
talkin shit
but then when i come around
you dont wanna
post up
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>>183019490
Kazuya. He's too fair
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>>183016889
>When can I press buttons?
Literally any time she's not in switch stance?
How the hell did you make it to Vanguard?
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>>183019950
green ranks are the new blue ranks
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>>183019821
What a gay post
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>>183013921
>grounded stomps
Stomping on niggas just feels so good
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>>183020117
Please do not project your homosex onto us.
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>>183020075
What are 1 to 3 then?
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>>183019490

Jack
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>>183020319
3 is the lowest rank all your characters are as soon as you get out of the newbie ranks
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>>183018524
Bruv gigas is a strong character. d/b 2 really strong move bruv. Jab to command throw is really sick bruv oh my days really a lot of sick moves bruv I think his moves are what +6 +10 on block? Oh my days
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>>183020129
I wholeheartedly agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmxhvYsA3yw
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>>183020737
I've wondered, can you still drop below those by losing? I would assume that it should be still possible to suck ass and drop back to 1 dan.
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>>183020897
Why the fuck did you play Shaheen at EVO you fucking traitor?
>>
I just played against a Fighter rank Dragunov player named Sacha :))))

The guy had an 11-match winning streak and about 29 wins.
However the guy was literally trash. I was about to 3-0 him when he disconnected.

Something is fishy.
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>>183019851
*1243 b1+2 b2.4,1 b1+4s you*
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>>183021063
PC EU btw
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>>183021063
nice blog?
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>>183021063
Fuck you. See me right now.
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>>183021331
>blog
Telling people to avoid cheating rage quitters in ranked is blogging
ok
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Do I need to learn any actual combos with Steve or can I just play an aggressive rushdown/ capitalize on your whiffs?
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Can KingJae give me some advice on what color to make my waifus bikini?
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>>183021050
Shaheen's a really strong character man if I'm being honest he's real bare bruv
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>>183021576
no, that'd be
>avoid fighter drag named sacha, is a ragequitter

instead you decided to blog about a whole bunch of other shit nobody cares about
>>
Is there an easy way to hunt for what moves make your character wallsplat someone? Rbnorway frame data pages don't include that detail.
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>>183021576
>>183021394
>>183021331
Let me blog even more
Here is his profile
http://steamcommunity.com/id/1231231231211/

>vac ban
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>>183021775
Who's your character
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>>183021775
All tailspin moves will wallsplat. Any other move youll need to find out on your own
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>>183021710
Nobody cares about your opinion though
>>
Is anyone else mad that Mokujin is not in the game?

I always used him as a warm up.
>>
>>183021849
Leo
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>>183022036
apparently you care enough to reply. try blogspot next time, it's free
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>>183022095
db1+2,1 hit confirm
df3
qcf3+4
uf1.2 13 frame punish
ff2 whiff punish
uf3
1+2 power crush
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>>183022169
hahah you got me
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>>183022169
replying doesnt mean caring ding dong
proof me
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>>183022241
Thank you.
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>>183021592
Yes because when your b1 actually DOES CH what the fuck are you gonna do?
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>4 bars
>match is stuttering and laggy as shit
Are they on Wi-Fi or something?
>>
I really hope Asuka gets thrown off a cliff in Tekken 8
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I want to impregnate Josie.
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What's the basic game plan for Raven? She's cool but I have no idea how to play her and I haven't come across any online
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>>183023071

I hope Lars gets thrown off.
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>>183023146
crouch dash mixups. back turn mixups, frame traps.
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>>183023146
Framewhisperer
Youtube
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>anon posts leo wallsplats
>try out d/b+1+2,1
>b+1,4 knk3,4 followup means 66 damage
Well shit maybe I should have studied Leo's wallgame better. This is fucking crazy.
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>>183023612
damn this looks pretty good. ty men
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>>183023747
Same anon here. Try this combo after a high wallsplat. 4 uf3+4 df2+3. Delay the uf3+4 so that it hits them when they're almost on the floor and scales for 60% or the df2+3 won't be guaranteed. Should be useful after wall carry (usually without the 4) or something like ch b1+4 into hopkick at the wall.
>>
I want to play the shit out of Yoshimitsu, he looks fun as hell and has interesting variety.
>>
>>183023308
why? Lars is based
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>>183024065
Appreciate the tips man.
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>>183023082
I want to impregnate sexy vampire!
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Is Alisa hype? Should I play her?
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This is my favorite game series for over 15 years now but I literally get pissed every single time I play it.

I can go on a 10 winning streak, the one loss will infuriate me.

Fuck this game, man.
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>>183024648
ugh
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I can't do fucking anything on Feng. All of his attacks aside from like 2 have way too much fucking start up time and everyone online always always only uses their fucking safe on block strings. That and his range is abysmal I can't ever hit them I don't know what the fuck to do I'm ready to break my fucking stick
>>
>>183025019
Its not the gsme, its your emotional instability.
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>>183017494
don't ever act like TheMoanMan is anything other than a dumpsterfire you fucking idiot
>>
>>183025336
t. armchair psychiatrist
>>
>>183025057
What am I looking at here?
>>
>>183025019
No, fuck you. Something happened to your patience and happiness and you fucked everything up. Sort yourself out, the game will be waiting.
>>
>>183025416
>>183025336
>this much projecting

this general is pretty awful tonight
>>
>>183025542
>if I call it projecting it'll make them look like the sentimental morons and not me!
>>
>>183025542
The fuck do you expect us to think? That the game magically became frustrating after being "your favorite game for over 15 years" for reasons other than you being bad and that you being pissed at losing is the game's fault?
Fuck you for baiting me this hard.
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>>183025734
>>183025676
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>>183025542

M8, I'm not the one who gets frustrated, how could it be projecting?

You need to relax your tits and/or git gud
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>>183025676
because you are a moron
>>
>>183025926
>>183025852
>le epic troll ebin : DD
>>
Wow. I wonder where all these fucking Steve's came from...
>>
>>183026174
At least Steve is fun to fight
>>
>>183024965
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>>183026223
But I keep losing
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>>183026709
Then all you have to do is stop losing silly
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>>183025057
huh?
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>>183026174
don't worry, they'll all be gone by next week when they realize how hard he is to play well

>>183026709
stop mashing. steve cant do big dammy without a CH, if youre getting blown up by steves youre either pressing too many buttons or getting outspaced
>>
>>183026223
Literally not. He's fucking unga bunga to the God damn extreme
>>
>>183018749
yes jabs are completely useless in tekken lol :p
>>
>>183026940
>steve
>unga bunga
you either don't know what unga means or you are so lost i have to question how you managed to access the internet on your own
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>people saying Lars is easy to learn

come the fuck on. Nigga has like 4 different stances
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I'm having problems in long range engagement as katarina

What move should I be doing to ensure I don't get btfo getting close to them?

I tried the harrier mid move but it seems to get beat or traded by everything. Is there some sort of shoulder charge or armor move she has instead? Or am I out of luck
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>>183027091
Le punchy man of many fists :D
He can be played by literally anybody he's extremely easy to play
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Is it wurth picking up Tek7 now, or should I wait until all the inevitable DLC is released.
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I feel like I'm losing braincells by playing the Italian man of Hopkicks
Who should I play to raise my IQ to double digits?
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>>183027294
It's worth buying.
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>>183027091
t. 3rd dan steve main
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>>183027104
almost every character in the game has a stance or more, lars is pretty straight forward in that he does simple things and his transitions are easy and he can do everything he needs to from neutral without remembering how to get to a stance to do something

>>183027232
steve has shitty lows and shitty launchers, he gets his damage off counter hits. stop pressing buttons in his face and lab his strings

>>183027471
i play maven
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>>183025372
post 10 seconds of you landing 5 consecutive EWGFs online
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>>183027294
be prepared to spend ~5 hours learning you character at first

but after that it's really fun to play, I didn't really play fighting games without my friends before but with tekken 7 I am enjoying even playing against randoms

very satisfying game
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Jesus Christ I think I've seen everybody called unga at this point
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>>183027629

I haven't.
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anyone use a trainer to unlock everything? notice anything strange online?
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>>183027294
it's a trade up between getting it now and catching the end of the wave of release players, or waiting until it's way cheaper but much fewer people are playing and the people playing are all, as we say, 'tekheads'

although i think there'll be people to fight for quite a long time, i lent someone my ps4 the other day so i went on tekken 6 on ps3 to see the differences my character has and experience this fabled input lag, and there were still people to fight. (poor people i assume)
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>>183027725
but lee is actually the most unga, that's the mix up
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>>183027941
PS4 already seems to be running out of silver ranks. Keeps giving me only blues.
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rate my Alisa
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>>183027764
i did it for all the customization items like a month ago and i still play online a ton, its fine
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>>183028128

itsaset/10
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>>183028106
PC as well. Looks like green ranks will be the next blue ranks soon.
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>>183025057
Handlebars
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So how come top level koreans were getting counterhit by Steve's b1 all the time? Surely they should know better than that.
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>>183028509
The ranking system is kinda shitty for new players.
"Here play against people who have 5 ranks above you and even if you happen to get wins you'll never rank up, as playing against people that much above you gives you almost nothing".
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>>183027725
Because nobody plays him, therefore, nobody loses to him either. Give it time. Some salty retard is bound to run into a good Lee and then come here and bitch about
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>>183028128
Not tournament legal/10
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>>183028761
>you will never use Eliza's horns as handlebars as you cum deep inside her mouth

Why can't she be real?
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>>183027216
Did you try forward dashing?
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>>183029019
Okay that is pretty hot
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>>183028258
do you also have an issue with a lingering notification on character customization? i think it might be eliza related.
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>>183029019
Go pay some escort or get your girlfriend to do it.
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>>183027216
HALP
>>183029050
Forward dashing does no damage
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>>183029053
i've seen a sfm of that angelic healer character from overwatch in this situation, both with her halo and with devil horns (alt costume i guess)
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>>183029183
space and react properly.
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>>183029183
Did you try necking yourself? Does plenty of damage
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>>183029179
It won't be the same.
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>>183029084
nope but i dont have eliza
i think i got it once and never got it again
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>>183029179
come on bro, if you can feel that the horns are firmly attached to her skull what's the point
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>>183027216
>>183029183

The reason why you're losing long range engagements is because you're using not just slow ass moves, you're using moves that come out of a slow stance. And Kat's Harrier is slow as fuck. This bad habit of yours will become your undoing once you find people who can whiff punish you for that shit.

Use i10-15 moves to start your offense.
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>>183029019
>she gags and punctures your abdomen by accident
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>>183029890
>implying she wouldn't be massively turned on by it

Remember anon, she's a vampire/succubus demon thing
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>character animations locked at 60fps
ok, sounds reasonable and expected, cool
>entire rest of game (game camera, all effects/visual flair, and background animations) also locked at 60fps
Why?
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>>183026789
I think he is implying Vampires can't be horny.
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How about your fastest KOs and general triumphs of momentum?
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>>183030086
I mean, she only has horns and is from hell because Harada doesn't know the difference between a vampire and western succubus.
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>>183029805
I'm talking about when they're knocked down and I'm closing distance. They can just do the hop kick wake up and knock me out of harrier mid which is retarded. Obviously I am not using harrier to initiate offense in neutral
>>183029393
eat a dick
>>183029318
I want to counter their move before they do it though, but if I have to react I guess there's no other option
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Tekken taking over! Capcom is dead!
https://youtu.be/XFsgrNSg9Uw
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>>182982685
>less difficult
>king and jin
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>>183030483
>king
>not comfy af ez mode
lmao
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>>183028128
r8 my Ed
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>>183030354

Oh, ok. My bad friend. However, it's still a bad idea to be using Harrier for wakeup. If people like to use wakeup attacks, just wait it out and whiff punish.
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>>183030574
he looks like an autistic child dressed by his mother in the 90s
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So how exactly does ranked work. I know you get more points if you play people near your own rank but it took me forever to get from 7th to 8th dan but only like 3 matches to get from 8th to 9th
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>>183030716

Why give a shit about rank at all?
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>>183030778
My autism
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>>183030610
Yeah I assumed Katarina would be too strong if she also had a strong distance closer.

I will just bait now until they stop waking up with moves.

Once they stop waking up fast do you think u/b+2 or d+3+4 is better for people waiting on the ground?
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>>183030680
Exactly the look I was going for. Thanks, anon
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>>182984678
Kazumi. Seriously fuck her!
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>>183030574
looks fucking bad in the best way possible
i dig it
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>>183030856

I really like ub4 personally.
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>>183030852
Rank is status and it would be more autistic to not care about status. But of course at 4chan everything is autistic.
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>>183030574
from the thumb i thought it was going to be an "only play once, then dodge" tier costume, but it's actually pretty cool, sort of like what people in 2030 will be wearing in the 'retro 90s' scene
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>>182984678
i'd say law. he has too much utility at lower ranks and you can boost wins easy with him until blue ranks
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>>183031120
shit that's what i meant

yeah the stomp is theoretically better but I keep fucking up with it so i'll try to use ub4 more now
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>>183031482

The problem with the stomp is that sometimes the input will register during their quick rise, and you will whiff it completely, leaving you open to something dangerous. ub4 is still unsafe, but it's a better option imo
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Capcom is dead!
https://youtu.be/XFsgrNSg9Uw
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>>183031751
disliked and reported on youtube
lol
>>
anyone know what the twitter account is for the tekkenbot dev?
>>
Why aren't you playing master raven?
Her design is great and she's really fuckin strong. You aren't afraid of a little execution or mind games are you?
>inb4 nigger
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>>183032928
Yeah it's eat my ass you fucking spaghetti loving Italian piece of shit
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>>183033195
She reminded me of blanka and I really wanted to try her but my defense sucks ass and she really needs to be able to create space and I ain't good at that.

Played gigas instead and eventually switched to Katerina
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>>183033221
im white though
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>>183033358
>literally posting a facebook picture
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>>183033195
*smacks lips*
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>>182982905
Jin is similar to Nina?

>>183030483
>>183030552

What would you recommend then?
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wish there was a better hat for this

still though falcon punching people in tekken is pretty good
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>>183033824
Nina's rushdown mixup right? Katerina is similar and much easier. I don't even know any combos besides 44444 and I'm doing well
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>>183000512
>>183007738
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What does -7s mean?

I looked at notation and it says s stands for "hits special mid (block d/b or b)"

not really sure what that means
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>>183034201
it means you're at 7 seconds of frame disadvantage
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>>183034201
it means your move comes out in negative 7 frames, and if you press down, or down back then they can't block it.
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>>183034201
7 frames disadvantage, special mids can be blocked while crouching or standing as opposed to normal mids which can only be blocked standing.
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>>183034201
If you're looking at rbnorway it means you are -7 and recovering in crouch. This means you can only immediately retaliate with WS (while standing) moves or FC (full crouch) moves and you can only sidestep in one direction
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What are my combo options after landing a screw as Leo?
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>>183035030
Ah alright, yeah this move is for counter attacks this makes the most sense
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>>183035469
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>>182992154
I went to a tourney a town over or so. It was pretty cool. Got 2nd place and lost to a Lili that dickjabbed me repeatedly sadly. It was also fucking hot as hell in there. And there was some guy in a trench coat and top hat who mained Lars.
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>Jab
>Jab
What comes next /tekgen/?
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>>183035469

f3~f1+2? I don't remember the input. Haven't played Leo since Tag 2
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>tfw you have an unseeable low that evades most highs and is +6 on hit
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>>183035803
>jab string with a mid in it
>>
>find a yellow rank as a lowly blue
>very close matches around 10 times in a row
>each game 2 rounds to 3 alternating between us
>final game he gets two perfects and 3-0s me

N-NANI?!?!
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>>183035676
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>>183036201
i always try to be nice like this to blues and kyos and such, but i'm only brawler so unless i play properly they just beat me, lol
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>>183036201
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>>183033195
i already play her
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>>183036107
alisa?
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>>183036409
He didn't do much differently, but the moves I was punishing or counter hitting before started landing on me every time. He entered the zone it was crazy. But yeah maybe you're right he coulda been focusing on something else.
>>183036456
Thanks famalam
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>>183036575
probably Josie because the bitch is busted
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>>183036107
Close! Gigass!
(d/b+3)
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>>183036575
>>183036873
4 u
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>the connection the opponent has been lost
Why the fuck does this keep saying this? My ports are forwarded and my NAT is open.
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>>183036575
i don't alisa even has any safe lows let alone plus
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What is fengs armor move?
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>>183037560
i don't think*
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>>183037423
they can decline the match and the matchmaking is just generally shit
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>>183037578
ff+1+2 i believe. if you hold the buttons, he extends the armor/startup and the move becomes + on block.
>>
How does ravens counter from fade work?
>>
What is Saint accomplishing by dashing like that?

https://clips.twitch
.tv/PuzzledCaringDonkeyAliens
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Is Queen Crimson the highest ranked tekgen player?
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>>183038101
i think he can only do that because they know each others styles so well
if you do that online against someone they will jab you at least
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>tfw have no idea what I should be doing as Bryan

I find myself just back dashing and trying to catch my opponent whiffing but I feel like I should be more aggressive.

Any beginner tips for him Tekgen?
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>>183038423
yeah hat wouldn't work online since lower ranked people never stop fucking pressing buttons.
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>>183038423
I get that but what is the strategic purpose of him dashing so many times?
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>>183038045
it's not from haze, it goes into haze. the input is bb+2 and the startup parries stuff. i think it's only mid/high punches.
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>>183038512
daring jdcr to stop him or react in some way besides backdashing
like any offensive move he gets information
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>>183038423
Holy fuck this is pain

>matches with friends
>trying out kazuya for wavedash practice
>they don't even think about mixups and just me out of it

Maybe I have the timing wrong
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>>183038448
b1 for frametraps and counterhits

run up to them and keep sweeping until they duck and then orbital if your green rank and below
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>>183038671
they have to be afraid of your cd before it will stop them from doing things
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>>183038671
You are supposed to condition your opponent to not press buttons

That means abusing EWGF from range 2 and other fast moves

If they start crouching you can ff3/f4 them
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Why isn't Jack7's f,F+1 + frames on block? it's total bullshit.
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What direction do I side step flamingo stance? hwaorang is fucking retarded
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>>183038423
>Playing Gigas
>After a couple of rounds/games I will find a spot in my pressure they block
>Instead of attacking as usual sometimes I will just dash 3-5 times in my opponent's face and then f+1+2
>Get the counterhit headbutt for 58 damage
>Works 95% of the time
Tekken is sooo fuuun
>>
>>183039568
Backwards
>>
I'll always like fighting Heihachi
>>
>>183038687
How would you beat the
>soccer kick X times in a row then orbital
mixup without having to guess high or low?
>>
>>183039568
The side he's facing
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>>183040057
Backdash
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>>183040057
you don't
Knee did that all the way to semi finals in evo and then he forgot to do it to JDCR so he lost
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>>183040057
Soccer kick doesn't crush so it will get beat by a jab check, which will float him if he goes for orbital.

Backdash then block low or KDB a couple of times

Fuzzy guard
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>>183040323
No way post a video
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Saint jobbed to JDCR on purpose, didn't he? They're buddies and Saint already got the previous EVO and Rev major. Those dropped combos and raw RAs looked pretty fucking out of place
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>>183040425
Stop trying to make King Jae look like less of a prick for collusion
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>>183040425
Yeah I do the same kind of shit when playing with friends so they don't quit playing with me for beating them too bad
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>>183040853
Literally who?
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What the literal fuck? I just had a rage quit on a player match in the first match.
It's a fucking player match my man it doesn't matter at all
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Other than for humiliating someone as a risky finisher, is there EVER an actual use for Yoshimitsu's suicide move?
Like I get that it's in the game because it's so iconic and has been around since the beginning, but I still have yet to see any actual utility to it. Is there really none?
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>>183041117
>What the literal fuck
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>>183041196
At the wall
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>>183040425
Saint wasn't even in top 4 at RevMajor lmao.
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>>183041196
The lack of utility is it's utility in a sense, a lot of Yoshi's moves rely on suprising your opponent by being unpredictable

In theory it should be the last thing to expect from a yoshi, but sadly almost everyone who mains him loves to just be a huge memelord and throw it out once a round
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Feng is so fucking mediocre Jesus Christ
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Eliza for purchase when?
Also, Eliza SFM porn when?
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which one is the most viable waifu
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>>183042837
Same question.
>>
>>183042837

You cannot marry any of them. They are not real.
>>
>>183042978
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNqVYkTqQdc
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>>183042837
Xiaoyu and Leo are the most viable
The others are all viable but not overwhelmingly so
Chloe could possibly be considered not viable
>>
I haven't had time to check anything from evo yet.
Did Tyler win?
>>
>>183043257
JDCR won, but Jeondding almost sent him to the losers bracket.
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How did my boy Aris Nivek do? i was stuck at work all weekend so i didnt get to watch EVO.
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>>183043486
he stunk like a fuckin bin
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>>183043651
Well, thats a shame. He was one of my favourites entering day 2
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>>183043257
no im practicing my raven for evo 2020

i live in florida so i might go to CEO next year though
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Katarina is literally designed to be a mixture of Christie and Anna. Double slut
>>
anyone wanna play on pc, midwest here
it's my first tekken and i need to practice my new character
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I love Josie
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tfw no geese
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>>183045678
Don fret, my child. We got bowling coming to keep us occupied
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Miguels fucking counter hit normal 10 frame poke into 65 damage is absolutely fucking retarded. Literally 0 consequence to just spamming it.
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>>183045865
sweep his legs
sidestep his charges
win
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>>183046680
AKUMA HAS NO TEETH
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>there are people
>in this thread
>RIGHT NOW
>that get so assblasted when someone so much as MENTIONS Leo
>gets so irreversibly asspained at this character that they can't beat
>that they call people tier whores for playing Leo
>in a game where tiers mean jack fucking shit
>these people get autistic about being shat on because they pressed buttons against an unga character instead of being patient and punishing

next you're gonna tell me people ACTUALLY complain about King's chain grabs
>>
>>183045865

Which poke is that? I don't play Miguel.
>>
>>183046680

Going to spoil the fun. This is Lee doing his RA in Akuma's skin.
>>
>>183042520

>Feng is so fucking mediocre Jesus Christ

>one of the best characters in the game is mediocre
>>
>at 70+ wins with Bryan
>bouncing around 3rd Dan and Initiate

Am I just embarrassing my self? Should I try a new character so I don't look so bad?
>>
>>182996818

This is actually true and a perfect illustration of the unbridled autism most Mishima players suffer from. It's the reason why they underperformed in T5 and T6, relative to how strong the characters are. Even with the terrible movement those games had, Mishima players have no concept of fundamentals. Their tactics consist of actually role playing as their characters.
>>
>>183047169
Why do you seek validation from strangers?
>>
I need help with Feng L, I'm stuck at brawler and keep going up and down, down and up. Anyone have some good pointers? Of any kind? Do I need to play more defensively?
>>
>>183047169
JUST
SNAKE EDGE
BRO
>>
>get bryan to green, easiest rank of my life
>try to sub jin
>can't even get out of 3rd dan
you really have to work for everything with this character, jesus christ
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Third guest character confirmed
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>>183047072
>responding to bait
He is the same shitter who said the same thing about bob, stop replying to this obvious shill.
>>
>>183048324
shit, did I miss a trailer?
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>>183047169
Learn kbdc and Taunt dash. Punish whifs with Jet upper.
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>>183048064
Getting to green is stupidly easy unless you're an ultimate shitter. This is my first Tekken I've taken somewhat seriously and I was able to take multiple characters to 13th without much issue.
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>>183048324
>>
what if harada himself was the 3rd guest character?
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>>183048772
could atleast hide that line
>>
i hope the third guest will be a nintendo character

link did great in soul calibur, wario would be goat in tekken
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>>183048772
Bruv
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>>183048560
and learn taunt jet upper. Bryan is literaly unplayable whithout it.
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>>183048808
what if Mokujin encapsulated every guest character guess
>>
Any nina players here? Just fought a Nina and I literally can't move because she doesn't stop attacking. Please tell me how do I counter that. I can't explain it well but she literally doesn't stop moving and attacking
>>
>>183047169
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

Look at that, go into training mode and mess around with each of those buttons. Find out why they're good and when you should use them.

Look at which of your buttons you can get a combo off on counter-hit. Find a counter-hit combo and practice it until you land it every time.

Look up some basic mid-screen, wall-carry & wall combos. Practice it until you land it every time.

Watch some Korean Bryan players and watch how they play.

All of that has let me take every character I play to green ranks without any issues. Taunt jet upper will come later, don't worry about it for now. If you can't do the basics then everything else is useless.
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>>183049369
Backdashing and keepout moves
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how to good at teken
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>>183049369
Find out what moves you're getting hit with. Look up the frame data to see what your options are after you block. Go into training mode and figure out how to deal with it.

This alone will put you ahead of most players.
>>
>>183049475
>>183049567
yeah I mean I know that but she cornered me to the wall and did infinite amount of moves. At first I thought she did a 10 hit string but it keeps coming after that. I'm wondering is she has a move that transitions to other moves
>>
>>183049369
try not being trash LMFAO
>>
>>183049682
SS+1 gives frame advantage and can transition into her sway moves and ws moves.

The "10 string" might be her high low kick string, just low parry or dickjab if you can't lowparry it. At the wall try stepping and dickjabbing/crushing with hopkicks and backswing blow moves at frame disadvantage.
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>>183049825
Thanks. First time encountering a nina with that playstyle. It caught me off guard
>>
>>183049682
>yeah I mean I know that

No, you obviously don't otherwise you wouldn't be here asking to be spoonfed information.
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>mfw Bryan main
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>>183049992
literally me irl
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>>183049992
where can i get one of those bandanas?
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>>183049992
That was pretty great. Too bad he got fucked up pretty badly
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>>183050375
>ywn comfort and cuddle some asian twink cosplaying as bryan after he gets fucked up on stage at evo
why live
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New thread?
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>>183052082
>>183052082
>>183052082
New Thread
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>>183051316
Why not make it yourself instead of being a fat lazy cunt?
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