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2018 HYPE Edition

New to the Series?
Quick Start Guide:http://i.imgur.com/kTpXdtz.jpg
Every single Kingdom Hearts game, besides the phone game, is now available on PS4! Catching up has never been this easy.
KINGDOM HEARTS 1.5+2.5 ReMiX -- Released March 28, 2017
KINDGOM HEARTS 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue -- Released January 12, 2017
KH 1.5 and KH 2.5 also available separately on PS3

<Kingdom Hearts 3 News>
Coming 2018
D23 2017 Toy Story Trailer: https://youtu.be/E4y7UK4nqnQ [Embed]
Nomura and Shimomura in a Famitsu Interview: https://www.khinsider.com/news/Famitsu-Interviews-Nomura-and-Shimomura-Production-on-KINGDOM-HEARTS-3-s-Music-to-Start-Soon-9580 July 12, 201
Gamespot interview: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/kingdom-hearts-3-director-tetsuya-nomura-explains-/1100-6451732/ July 16, 2017

>Lore Resources
https://pastebin.com/tKPLZLiE


KINGDOM HEARTS Union X[cross] Resources:
Available for both iOS and Android devices.

>GLOBAL Updates
https://twitter.com/kh_ux_na
>JP Updates
https://twitter.com/KHUX_PR
>General News+Updates
https://twitter.com/Daybreak_Town

>Quick Help Guide [heavily depreciated]
http://pastebin.com/jQVKegVw
>Wiki
http://www.khunchainedx.com/
>Damage Calculator
http://khuxtracker.com

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First for boy's love is best love
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started ReCom last night.
question: what changes when a card goes premium?
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Second for creepy Woody and questionable work safeness.
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>>182936419
Cost becomes lowest possible but the card can only be used once per fight. Think of it like the card at start of a sleight. That's pretty much it's optimal position in a deck.
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>>182936419
>There's another Re: CoM anon
How far are you? I just got to Atlantica on Sora. Also Premo cards have lower CP costs but can only be reloaded through items.

Is Riku's gameplay more enjoyable than Sora's? I'm not really a fan of this so far and am trying to get to KH2 asap
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>>182936805
I read Riku is better.
so I died to the first boss because I ran out of cards.

what.
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Will she finally be playable?

What would her special moves and spells be like?
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>>182936002
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>tfw 40+ minute fight in current Hades Cup
JP is a ride sometimes
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>>182936805
Riku's gets a different fixed deck for each floor (I think, I'm pretty sure that's how it worked)
So if the whole card deck management thing is what you're not a fan of then Riku's will be marginally easier on you.
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>>182937143
>Will she finally be playable?
I certainly hope so. It'll be really great to see her do something other than run away or be captured. All I want is some chance for her to shine. She's on my short list of the "other playable character" with Roxas, Ven, and Riku.
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>>182937143
berserker
Sora plays like Ventus, Riku plays like Aqua, Kairi is gonna play like Terra
Nah just kidding, she'll probably be a mage/support type or something
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>>182937143
Berserker Kairi is very much a real thing
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G A Y
S H I T
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>>182937654
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>tfw no HD Ariel in KH3
The boner would pierce the heavens
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>>182937724
Needs more gay
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>>182937654
I agree
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>That journal that Axel wrote as Xion died
Fuck
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>>182940940

what did it say? never played days.
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Night, Aqua.
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>>182941754
>Day 357: To My Best Friend
>Author: Axel
>Roxas left. It's so like him to just leave that WINNER ice cream stick behind. Come tomorrow, I'll probably get the order to hunt him down, but leaving that here makes it feel so permanent. I wish the three of us - three? No. That the two of us could share some ice cream again someday. That's what it is to be friends.
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>>182940940
desu I find Saix' reports and overall arc sadder, especially when you see how dejected he is when Axel chooses others over him and how you can pinpoint around when he got Norted
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>182926004
I really hope this means Port Royal returns

While looking on Behind The Voice Actors it seems Captain Jack now has a better VA than Tidus and it looks like Bill Nighy would come back to reprise Davy Jones like in Disney Infinity
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>>182944552
Whoops, meant to do this
>>182926004
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>>182937143
I fully expect her to be the playable tutorial person. If it isn't Sora in Olympus.
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So if Ansem becomes a battleship and Xemnas rides a battleship then does that mean Xehanort will become a battleship riding another battleship
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>>182944552
you do realize that rating is for 1.5+2.5 which is on the other side of the poster right?
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>buy weekly deal 6 weeks straight to guilt 1 nerfed medal
I've never felt such abject disgust before
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>>182945358
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>>182945360
>RP-E10+
>RP
>for a game that came out months ago
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>>182945823
>RP for KH3
>E10 for 1.5+2.5
the rating description matches the one on the 1.5+2.5 website. Ratings are made after the game is complete and KH3 obviously isnt complete
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this might sound retarded but what's the logic behind some worlds like halloween town or pride lands being optional?
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>>182945360
I feel stupid now, but to be fair I did competently forget the poster featured the ReMIX lineup on the back, they only showed it on the stream for a few seconds
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>>182937654
>>182937724
>>182939609
>>182936204
Faggots
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>>182937637
[Citation needed]
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Friendly reminder that Aqua is a bitch
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>>182946517
Ask Nomura

My guess? It's because they are worlds with different control schemes (Atlantica, Pride Lands) or weird story progression (Olympus Colosseum uses tournaments) that are the most likely reasons, it seems to be the only thing in common with them.

I never understood why second visit Space Paranoids could be skipped but maybe it wasn't considered that important to the story.
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>>182947254
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>>182947304
Forgot to add Hundred Acre wood but that only adds to the point
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>>182934873
It's funny when 4chan is the voice of reason among fans.
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>>182947254
aqua has no character
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>>182947565
I don't know about that, I'm part of a pretty comfy KH group on facebook. None of them seem to be as autistic as on here or other bigger KH groups, but yeah compared to other places this place is nice
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>>182947791
You must have lucked out. Whenever I look at the KH twitter or FB page it's autism incarnate. And not the funny 4chan version of autism.
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>>182937143

What will her 4k panties look like?
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>>182949827
she will be only in cutscenes never allowing you to be a pervert.
After she is done with her training she will wear shorts or spats
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>Roxas confronts Axel about Sora
>leaves to find someone who will tell him
>no stated or implied intention of defection
>suddenly the Castle's Nobodies are after Roxas
>Saïx gatekeeping (who told him Roxas was defecting?)
>replays KHII scene where Axel tells him not to turn on the Organization as if he hadn't literally just done it

This is a very weird sequence.
It's like they desperately wanted the castle escape sequence, but couldn't break canon, and I guess nobody brought up the idea of Saïx or someone else hunting Roxas down after he's left.
I mean, it might have been cool to have all the remaining members chase you through the different worlds. That'd be a better gauntlet than magic final boss devices for Xion.

Also Xion goes missing for a total of 43 days with very little done about it.
Roxas gets a little butthurt and immediately the entire Castle is out to get him.

Even though it came later, this endgame reminds me of the way χ[chi] wrapped up, in particular Agrabah's ending.
This game feels like the team forgot there was a story until it was time to finish the game. The plot doesn't really move until about Day 255, and after that point time skips eat up the majority of the days left. It feels rushed, and the time skips really fuck with the narrative (like X story event happens and then 30 days of in-universe nothing, then the story picks up as if it just happened).

They probably just shouldn't have used "days."
Unfortunately even the title is married to this concept so we're stuck with it forever.

I'm so close to finishing these stupid stats why did I even start this
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>>182949827
They'll give her spats or skin tight shorts so we can't sneak a peak at her cute panties.
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>>182950976
days really is pure dogshit
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>>182950791
>spats
I HOPE SO.
Spats is sexier than panties.
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>>182951556
and skirt over her spats you pevert
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Will Goofy have spats
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>>182951884
I think we should be covering up Donald with spats first.
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exclusive preview of Kairi's KH3 outfit
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>>182953308
Since its a Disney product I'd expect something stupid like that.
Since Japan is making it, I expect something something way more lewd.
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>>182950976
It's for the character development.
>(like X story event happens and then 30 days of in-universe nothing, then the story picks up as if it just happened)
People usually spend a while contemplating their problems before doing anything about it. The characters act the most realistically in Days because of that. If you're going to complain about something, complain about how Riku was willing to let Xion go despite going against his character or how she psychically tells Riku to stop Roxas from doing what she herself told him to do.
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From the clips you can see right down the entier street it seems. How much of the Toy Story world do you think they'll let you explore?
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>>182953628
I'm hoping there are no invisible walls like in 0.2 but there probably will be some
Hoping that you can explore the whole of Andy's room
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>>182953628
We better see fucking Pizza Planet. I wanted that place to be real as a kid so I could go there.
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>>182953765

Olympus seems pretty fucking massive though, we've seen like 5 different areas already

I'm sure you'll have plenty of explore
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>>182953832
I really want Pizza Planet too but I think Galaxy Toys is the stand in for it unfortunately
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>>182953624
>People usually spend a while contemplating their problems before doing anything about it.
Let me give you a specific example.

On Day 322, Saïx says that the devices will be operational in a couple of days.
Time skip to Day 352, 30 days later, and Roxas is tasked with setting one of the devices.

It took them 30 days to set all of that up? It feels weird, and this isn't the only time something like that happens.
It's an awkward way to speed through a time frame that was too large for the story they had to tell.

>The characters act the most realistically in Days
No, they... they really don't.
I mean, to an extent that's what should happen, being Nobodies. Like how they have to keep telling each other they're best friends, which is awkward.

But they certainly don't behave realistically.
No memes, if I wasn't a KH fan and you told me Axel was actually just autistic, I'd probably believe you.
Whether you want to draw some kind of intent there by the concept of Nobodies is up to you.

>how she physically tells Riku to stop Roxas
Yeah, this dialogue pretty much feels like it was forced in to give Roxas a reason to go to Memory's Skyscraper. Not the most graceful ending.
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>>182954013
>I think Galaxy Toys is the stand in for it
Fuck you for even suggesting that. If don't get to play Whack-A-Chestburster as toy Sora I will fly to Japan to punch someone in the face.
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>>182953881
If you've played 0.2 there are plenty of areas that seem explorable but actually aren't i.e. the castle of dreams
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>>182954252
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>>182954252
Didn't Nomura say that 0.2 as a whole is only a little bigger than a single KH3 world?
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>>182954230
Someone here said Galaxy Toys is multiple stories and a huge place. I know KH3 worlds are supposed to be enormous, but an entire toy store plus what appears to be all of Andy's street. I don't know if Pizza Planet can fit as well
>Galaxy Toys, Pizza Planet, and Al's Toy Barn in the same strip mall and you can enter all 3
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>>182954303
If that's the case I guess it's fine, but 0.2 as a whole is very restricted unlike >>182954293 which has big open areas.
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I hope they let Sora swear in KH3
We Kingdom Hearts fans are adults and can handle it
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>>182954395
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/07/16/nomura-shares-more-details-on-kingdom-hearts-iii-and-its-toy-story-world.aspx
>“Galaxy Toys is going to be your primary stage where a lot of the action is going to be happening in this world,” Nomura said. “Because Sora, Donald, and Goofy are toys and very small, the playing field is going to feel very large. We also have multiple floors and each section has its own personality, so to speak.”

>>182954447
Because they were trying to fit multiple worlds into the span of a single world. So it's obviously going to hurry you along from place to place so you can see as many of the BbS worlds in the new engine as possible in 0.2's 2-3 hour length
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>>182954549
>I hope they let Sora swear in KH3
Are you 12?
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And now I never play this ever again
Probably

https://pastebin.com/dw1CXrXj
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>>182954293
>the mountains here
>Mount Olympus
>The entire city of Thebes or wherever it is
So many different huge spaces and yet they're all the same world.
I swear I'm going to have a heart attack from hype before this gets released
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>>182954549
>We Kingdom Hearts fans are adults and can handle it
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Looks like I'm finally done rerolling, only took me like 10 hours.
How do I bind my account?
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>>182954683
why would you sacrifice your time for this? I mean other people including me find this interesting but why did you decide to do this?
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how do you guys handle the lore of the keyblade war?
Is chi/UX the absolute law about the bleyblade war and if a character of the maingames says something about the kbwar that contradicts khux are they just wrong/didnt know better or are both views correct?

Damous example being: was the keybladewar about the chiblade?
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>>182954774
there should be a twitter button on the main hub in the bottom right corner where your character runs around. Khux jp uses twitter while khux global uses facebook
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>>182954213
That example makes more sense, although it could also be a translation error, originally meaning something closer to 'complete' or 'manufactured' instead of 'active', which would make sense considering the general quality of Days' translation. It's also interesting that the 1.5 version cut out the castle escape, but really, who cares when the manga did everything better.

The characters still do behave the most realistically, largely due to the circumstances they're presented with. Real people don't go on adventures through ten civilizations without ever sleeping, eating, or relaxing, adamantly and unthinkingly pursuing a single goal except also having ADHD. The real autistic melodrama is in KH2 and BBS, with gems like
>goofy... sorry about the ice cream...
>I gotta tell terra that xehanort is evil!
>...
>kthxbye
>HAS THE DARKNESS TAKEN YOU, XEHANORT.
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>>182954303
>>182954447

Too be fair 0.2 had to be linear because it was just a way to show you the new mechanics and what not

I doubt the worlds in KH3 will be linear
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>>182954872
I started the playthrough almost a year ago so honestly I don't remember.

Part of it I think was as a refresher of the actual game as opposed to the movie, which cut some of the story out.
Not much really important, though. Some of the cut scenes would have been better than all the clocktower stuff they kept in 1.5, though.

I think at the time I had been chimping out about very specific details about the game in a couple arguments, or something like that. So I started looking into it to sate my own curiosity.
Probably.

>>182954892
The Keyblade War is only known by people in the present through vague legends. I believe a certain leniency should be allowed to χ concerning mild discrepancies.

Nomura recently confirmed in an interview that the Master knows about the χ-blade. So it just remains to be seen how that factors in.
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>>182954303

>Didn't Nomura say that 0.2 as a whole is only a little bigger than a single KH3 world?

I hope he means scale wise and not time wise, because it only took me about 3 hours to complete 0.2
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>>182954651
>>182954738
There should be a scene where Xehanort is saying something like "the darkness is the light of those who seek" and Sora says "FUCK you, Xehanort!" (the fuck should be in all caps in the subtitles) and Donald Duck says "You're damn right, Sora"
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>>182954293
"You see that mountain? You can climb it"
- Tetsuya Nomura
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>>182955453
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>>182955456
guess its gonna be delayed by 3 years and be on PS5?
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>>182955517

Nah it comes out next year, December 31st 2018 at 11:59pm
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>>182955453
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>>182954549
>unironically wanting KmH: Kingdoms may Heart
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>>182955375
Well he did just say that he doesn't like to use time as a scale because it varies depending on how fast you try to get through it, so it's possible he was talking about scale even back then.
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>>182955375
0.2 was roughly the time it would take to play one world in KH3. So expect 2-3 hours per world depending on playing ability.
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>>182955453
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>>182955646
>Riku uses his Keyblade to kill Maleficent and her unborn child
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>>182955456
>Andy's street is a fully explorable road that is 2km ingame long to the toy store
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>>182956118
kek
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>>182955646
There needs to be a scene where Sora is about to fight Xehanort's Grandma and she says "Who the FUCK are you" (the fuck is capitalized in the subtitles to make sure you know) and Sora says "I'm Sora the heartless slayer, has a nice ring to it doesn't it!" and Goofy says "Kill that bitch! Kill that fucking whore!" and Sora says "Jesus Christ you fucking spaz I'm already on it"
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"I-it's not MY fault the game took so long to make! It's the company!"
which company?
disney? square? both?
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>>182955940

I hope thats not the case
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>>182956182
When it comes to shit like "which engine are we using?" I would assume Square.
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>>182956182
Anon KH3 was revealed back in 2013.
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>>182956164
then she pulls out her keyblade, says "dumb child, I survived the keyblade war" and murders Sora
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Can KH1 be played by simply holding forward and moving the camera left and right to turn?
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>>182956182

Square, they made them change engines
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>>182956484
Yes but why would you do that?
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>>182956182
>there were some decisions that the company had to make, and it just didn’t work out for certain timings that we were hoping to hit
Sounds like there were some movie advertisement tie-ins they wanted to do
no way disney would step in the way of an ad for themselves
it must've been square then

So what tie-ins do you think we missed the timing for, anons?
my bet's on The Force Awakens and the 1st avengers movie
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>>182956531
for what purpose
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>>182956583
Promised my khux party I'd do KH1 with guitar hero drums. Figuring out controls. Thanks, anon.
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>>182956219
>>182956531
I thought that was nomura's choice because the luminous engine had too many limitations cuz of all the crazy shit he's squeezing into 1 game
desu it was nomura's own artistic ambition that spurred the delays
i mean this is the same guy responsible for releasing 4 canon spinoffs to make the biggest narrative in kh3
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>>182956750

Luminous engine is shit
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>>182956812
>Promised my khux party I'd do KH1 with guitar hero drums.
>tfw menu management with drums
Record it and post it on youtube, I'd watch it tbch
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>>182956204
That's pretty inline with KH1 and KH2 worlds.
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look out Riku, its Cloudirioth!
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>>182957021

Yeah exactly

I was hoping KH3 worlds would be much longer
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>>182957007
If I can actually make it work, I'll upload it somewhere. Most likely I'll get stuck on Cerberus forever.
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>>182957104
Oh.
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What is the most comfy KH world?

Its Traverse Town
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>>182956182
Absolutely Square

They announced both KH3 and FFXV too early in a panic because of the FFXIV disaster in attempt to appease angry investors.

Honestly I don't think the engine swap itself is bad but the fact that they took part of the dev team that had luminous knowledge definitely hurt. Overall Unreal was the best decision and if you can recall back in 2014/15 Nomura was definitely praising the engine and after the latest trailer I can't help but agree with Square's choice here.

Then there's the part on how they promised the KH team more staff after they reached certain points in development only to say "actually not right now" when the time came. The combination of taking all the luminous-literate devs away then not giving the team more is probably the greatest contributing factor to the slower development.

Ultimately a 4-5 year development cycle isn't bad though.
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>>182957315
Didn't we have this discussion not too long ago? Everyone knows it's Christmas Town.
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what was the point of the tattoed tear axel had?
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why did daddy Nomura put Ventus into Union X?
What was the point?
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>>182958024
Just because you're an allegedly emotionless evil dude it doesn't mean you can't be stylish
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>>182958121
>This was the first thing in Kingdom Hearts that made me think "This is convoluted bullshit."
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>>182958024
Well he has killed a couple of people.
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>>182958121
When did that happen and how does that make sense with the whole "hundred years before bbs" thing?
Come to think of it, how are Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Chip, and Dale in Daybreak Town a hundred years before bbs?
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>>182958464
>When did that happen
You new around here?
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>>182958635
It's not in the english version yet dude.
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>>182958464
the last one is because they are fake. Every character that isnt a keyblade weilder&chirities ( and probaly a other Malificent) are fake people created with the book of prophecies
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>>182958698
So you're new.
Fucking summer.
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>>182958817
They said that about the worlds they visit, but they are in daybreak town when this happens.
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>>182958975
look these people joined our general because of a new kh3 trailer
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>>182959153
And? If they can't do their own research I'm not going to spoonfeed them.
If they come in and ask stupid questions I'm going to treat them like idiots.
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>>182958698
To answer your question, I think that story update came out in like, March?
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>>182959294
It's a stupid question because I don't play the moonrune version?
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>>182959472
Its a stupid question because everyone here already fucking knew about it and talked about it endlessly, which is how its fucking obvious its your first day here.
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>>182958817
How do we know ven isn't just a projection of the book of prophecies?
are we just making assumptions because ven didn't have a backstory yet and this could be the best chance to tell where he came from?
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>>182959575
because Ventus looks younger and he atleast told us he talked with Ava
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>>182959575
Because he was a dandelion and one of the new Union leaders?
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>>182959517
So basically your idea of "stupid" means "doesn't have cosmic awareness of things that he was not previously exposed to"?
By the way, I don't think I'm considered "new" if I just haven't been to the general in a few months and thought to check back after the new trailer came out.
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>>182959517
You're all the worst parts of /vg/ combined.
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>>182959802
>cosmic awareness of things
Or you could just LURK MOAR.
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>>182959872
>>182959834
we re struggling to survive most normal days
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>>182939609
Is this incest or masturbation?
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>>182959872
>LURK MOAR
>Summerfags
I want /v/ to leave. Sometimes people just want discussion even if its old news.
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>>182945358
>Gurren Lagann-esque final boss ending in a fist-fight with Xehanort

Fucking do it.
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>>182960018
How would it be incest?
>>182960059
Exactly. We retread shit all the time here.
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next possible opportunity for kh3 update is gamescom next month. But I expect they skip that to show new stuff at the tgs in 2 months
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>>182955453
This is also Disney, yanno
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>>182959689
So just because he shows up for a longer time and participates in the main storyline?
that doesn't really rule out him being a projection
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>>182961076
Being a dandelion pretty much rules him out as a projection.
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>Nomura confirmed Kingdom Key has a transformation

What's it gonna be?
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>>182961713
but he has a point
>>182961774
isnt that just second form?
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>>182960018
I mean, Nobodies are your own body. You would literally be "playing with yourself", so draw your own conclusion.
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>>182962697

Cant wait to buy the PS5 complete mega ultra 4K remastered collection
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>>182962804
>1.5.5 UltraFinal Deluxe
>2.5.5 UltraMegaFinal Deluxe
>3.5.5 SuperUltraMegaFinal Deluxe: GOTY Edition.
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This new trailer left me with more questions about the plot. Like, in which Toy Story is it based on? I can only assume not the first one because Woody and Buzz get along. Was Andy kidnapped? It seemed like he was judging from the trailer. Does he know that the toys are alive now? Why kidnap toys and possibly Andy? What are those new monsters? (Yes, new because The Unversed have different sigils).

I can't wait for the game.
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>>182963502
My guess is it's either set between 1 and 2 or between 2 or 3. Pixar told them to create an original story so it's not based during a movie. We didn't see Jessie with the gang so my guess is it's between 1 and 2.
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>>182963502
>>182963672
Interviews said that it takes place after Toy Story 2.
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>>182956182
Square Enix
This isn't the first time either. Between 2006-2009, very little work was put into Versus XIII. This was because Square hadn't finished the engine the game was supposed to use and they took a good portion of the versus team and put it on Final fantasy XIII so that game would get finished
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>>182963828
Cheers.
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>>182956182
Square. Look at Versus XIII and what happened to that. Hell, look at the fact that Nomura didn't even know he was directing FFVII-R until he saw the trailer
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>>182961076
>player or someone else visits land of departure via the book thinking it's real and meets ven
>says he should come to daybreak town
>his projection walks around and acts like a real person for as long as the narrative needs him to be
It's not impossible

Also this dandelion meme needs to fucking stop
ven wouldn't be introducing himself to other dandelions post-war if he was already a dandelion
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>>182964660
Your argument is pretty much "I don't like how Ven's backstory is developing so everything is a dumb meme!!"

You do remember that the forming of the Dandelions was an underground movement of Ava recruiting members from each Union right? Of fucking course not everyone would know each other. It's not like They're going to be announcing it to every person they see
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>>182964660
>ven wouldn't be introducing himself to other dandelions post-war if he was already a dandelion
Except it was a large group and not everyone knew everyone else?
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Ventus is the fucking traitor dinguses, why else would he be the only one who escaped the Realm of Sleep
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>>182964660
If Ventus was part of this group, What does this mean for Vanitas? Does he remember? Could these events be the reason why he had so much darkness? Will something horrible happen?
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Just turned on UX and noticed Bears placed 4th last week.
How come I don't see any bear memes in the thread?
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>>182965919
Fucking this. Why else do people think he was so overly goody two shoes in BBS? It was an over-correction and also partly due to Vanitas being extracted from him. We'll see the REAL Ventus in KH3 when he gets his heart back.
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>>182965927
>What does this mean for Vanitas? Does he remember? Could these events be the reason why he had so much darkness? Will something horrible happen?
Nothing? Why would it mean something for Vantias?
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Ventus is the real mastermind behind the series.

Pic fucking related.
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>>182966827
Except Ven and Vanitas merged at the end of BBS, didn't they? Unless I'm misremembering, it's been a while since I played.
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>>182966634
Ventus doesn't remember but there was speculation that Vanitas might. Or who knows? Maybe Ventus is overcompensating, like >>182966370 he said. Nobody knows until they canonized anything or explain well
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>>182967089
No, they didn't. Ventus had to break his heart when Vanitas tried to forcibly merge them and is in a coma now
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>>182967089
I thought Vanitas got disintegrated. If that's the case, then he'll teleport back after Aqua wakes him up and it's revealed he is an asshole.
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>>182967102
Again, why would Vanitas remember, but Ven not? Vanitas didn't split from Ven until he was under Master Xehanort which is looking to be way after the war.


When it comes to Vanitas in these threads people to forget or intentionally miss the point that Ventus was a complete whole regular person before Vanitas was forcibly removed.
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>>182967303
>Ventus was a complete whole regular person

He was, but we don't know how he actually acts. We got one line out him.
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>>182967401
What does it matter how he acts? I'd assume like every other person in the series where they have both light and darkness in their hearts. I just don't see the point of bringing up speculation on Vanitas' reactions to a part of the story where
1. He didn't exist independently.
2. Would be a long ass time before he did to be cognizant of the events.
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>>182965037
My argument is that there is no solid evidence to make my theory any less valid than yours

Also
>underground
they had a huge meeting outside at the fountain
that looked pretty public to me
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>>182967616
Because Vanitas is a red herring and who he was originally a part of is more important in the story seeing as Ventus was a dandelion and an original keyblade wielder that SOMEHOW got out of the realm of sleep.

The reason Vanitas is important is foreshadowing why he's so fucking strong and was coherent and intelligent the second he spawned. Ven was in a kind of coma for a little bit after Vanitas because he was so much weaker than his darkness.
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>>182947359
Stop using Velma to control my emotions. Aqua is not nice! REEÉEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182967774
This sounds like the most ass pull stuff ever. I know Vanitasfags want him back really bad, but think.
>Because Vanitas is a red herring
Or, just bare with me, he's not as important as you want him to be.


>Ven was in a kind of coma for a little bit after Vanitas because he was so much weaker than his darkness.
I assume you mean, after he was born, in that case it's because that's not the natural state of him. Ven almost dying and being in the coma isn't because Vanitas is so much stronger than him it's because Xehanort removed an intregal part of Ven's person. Had Sora not have help, Ven would have been a goner, seeing as that's not how he's naturally supposed to be.
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>>182968086
>because Xehanort removed an intregal part of Ven's person

That's the point. Someone's darkness isn't supposed to be that strong: see Sora's darkness being a tiny shadow.
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>>182968156
How do we know Vanitas was really strong at birth?
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>>182968156
>Someone's darkness isn't supposed to be that strong: see Sora's darkness being a tiny shadow.

Where is the line in the game, interview, or reports that says that there's a rule on how strong someone's Darkness can be.

>see Sora's darkness being a tiny shadow.
What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
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if only there was a person overflowing with a extreme amount of darkness.
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>>182968505
Unless the Master is secretly a hermaphrodite, the theory doesn't work.
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>>182968156
How do you explain Riku then? Because of how strong his darkness got despite being a warrior of light does that mean he's secretly MoM?
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>>182967303
I know that, thank you very much, but Vanitas is still part of Ventus. He may still have some memories from him. At least in the novel, he has some sort of synchronization with Ventus on top of that but I know the novel is considered non-canon
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did anyone buy the orb deal?
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>>182969021
Why would you waste the jewels?
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>>182968156
I dont think the tiny amount of Darkness in Soras Heart is demonstrative of the average amount of Darkness in a normal persons Heart.
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>>182968856
>but I know the novel is considered non-canon
Then why bring it up?
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>Nomura said DLC might happen

Please no Nomura
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>>182969463
I bring it up because I don't fully discard it since it makes sense
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>>182969507
>episode Kairi
>episode Mickey
>episode Ansem
yes please
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>>182969574
But that doesn't mean anything to those who consider the novel non-canon, so you bringing it up to make a point doesn't really do anything.
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>>182969248
the guy who gets murdered in Traverse Town turns into a Soldier

Vanitas is a sentient, talking monster who can summon a whole new breed of monsters
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>>182969507
A $10 superboss DLC is a lot better than buying a $60 Final Mix.
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>>182963502
What new monsters? Those mechs? I honestly think they aren't new monsters and they are just toys.
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FLOTSAM
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>>182969797
>Vanitas is a sentient, talking monster who can summon a whole new breed of monsters
Xehanort, is that you?

The same was said about Nobodies but it turns out the have hearts so we can assume the same from Vanitas because he is sentient. Every sentient being is capable of growing a heart
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>>182970805
AND JETSAM
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>>182971148
But Vanitas already had a heart. Well, at least half a heart.
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>>182971185
LOYAL DARLINGS, STRONG AS THE TIDE
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>>182971185
GET ON THE HYDRA'S BACK
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>>182971148
>but it turns out the have hearts
No, they can GROW hearts if their host body is strong/pure enough (Roxas) or they are around people with strong hearts (Axel and Xion). Nowhere has it been implied that Xemnas had a heart.

Xigbar, maybe.
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>>182973081
It's actually implied that all nobodies that aren't simple dusks can grow another heart,
Sora even calls both Mansex and Xigbar liar for telling the other members or the Orgy the lie that they don't have a heart
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nobody cared?
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Does the KH series get less cringy if you replace every instance of "heart" with "soul"?
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>>182973893
>still playing that garbage
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>>182973909
No because soul is technically a separate concept in this series.
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>>182973909
No, because souls are also something else in Kingdom Hearts.

Souls are also pretentious historical fabrications to generalize a wide network of interacting elements whereas hearts are a poetic device.
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>That one anon who mentioned Sora just kicks his friends' asses until they see straight as opposed to Ven and Roxas
He wasn't playing around
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>>182975521
Sora is best friend.
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Update for next OP

<Kingdom Hearts 3 News>
Coming 2018
D23 2017 Toy Story Trailer: https://youtu.be/E4y7UK4nqnQ
Excerpt—Hercules Trailer: https://youtu.be/GNebfmXqHQ4
Nomura and Shimomura in a Famitsu interview: https://www.khinsider.com/news/Famitsu-Interviews-Nomura-and-Shimomura-Production-on-KINGDOM-HEARTS-3-s-Music-to-Start-Soon-9580 July 12, 2017
Nomura on DLC and what tooksolong: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/kingdom-hearts-3-director-tetsuya-nomura-explains-/1100-6451732/ July 16, 2017
Nomura on details about the Toy Story World: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/07/16/nomura-shares-more-details-on-kingdom-hearts-iii-and-its-toy-story-world.aspx July 16, 2017
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>>182977664
>>
kingdom hearts is not real
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What would the best field theme for Toy Story be and why is it The Cleaner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRGN_by6ZQ
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>>182978538
Tell that to Xehanort.
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If Pixar wants original stories for the worlds, we're definitley not getting Wall-E or Incredibles. Most likely we'll get Monsters Inc.
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>>182979346
Big hero 6 means no Incredibles probably
Can't have 2 hero worlds
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>>182979346
Don't you think it's more likely we'll get just one Pixar world?
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>>182979591
Can't think of many more "transformation" worlds that wouldn't be retarded other than Monsters, and we usually get a few for the big console games. It could even be them in shitty monster costumes.
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>>182979741
>Frozen
Heavier clothing, not much of a transformation
>Incredibles
Superheroes without capes
>Emperor's New Groove
Mayan style, but they didn't change for Agrabah
>Monsters Inc.
Boo's monster costume
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>>182980213
They'd do it for Incredibles, doubtful for Frozen
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>>182980213
I really want Incredibles just so I can hear Sora complaining that Donald didn't magic a cape onto his world outfit.
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god I hate it when people talk about their dream worlds.
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>>182980620
go back to your pulls kid
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>>182980458
>Sora; Why don't i have a cape? I'm a superhero, right?
>Donald: No capes!
>Sora: What? Why not?
>Donald: Capes are for Wizards only!
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Alright boys, pick your dream worlds. Pick your top 5
I'm thinking about doing a live action version too
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>>182980620
>>182980692
I'm not sure if these mobile shitposters are baiting or not
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>>182980620
>khux cucks are salty real games are being talked about
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>>182980692
>>182980982
>>182981042

>Guys guys wouldnt it be awesome if they did a gravity falls world??? Sora could hang with those piner and maline oh uhh that grandpa could do all those funny jokes and they could make references to the show and they fight that triangle and sora learns all those leasons. it would be so awesome and funny haha
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>>182980932
>Emperor's New Groove
>Incredibles
>Jungle Book
>Frozen
>Treasure Planet
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>>182980932
>implying high school musical wouldn't have the GOAT singing minigames
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>>182980932
In no particular order

>Up
>Atlantis
>Meet the Robinsons
>Emperors New Groove
>The Great Mouse Detective

I also know that these will never happen. At least I can't be disappointed.
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>>182981147
No one mentioned a Gravity Falls world you thick cunt
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>>182981147
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>>182981147
>people mentioning plausible worlds is the same as gravity falls and steven universe picks

mobilefag pls
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>>182981349
>>182981509
thats how you people sounds
>haha an incredibles world and Sora wears super hero clothes and they do a cape joke haha Sora could hang out with that sonic boy
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>>182981147
>reeeeee why aren't you complaining about shitty pulls and getting jewed again
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>>182980932
I genuinely want this one the most though with keyblade forms we'll probably never get another 4 legged form ever again
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>>182981617
Yes, all of that would be great. What's the problem?
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>>182980932
1. Robin Hood
2. The Black Cauldron
3. Atlantis
4. The Jungle Book
5. Treasure Planet
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>>182981617
post-modern irony only mobilefag pls
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Finally finished saix 13 with this setup
it's pretty sadistic they lock a medal behind gen defX7, attribute defX7, and DB3 triggering every single hit
but RNG finally did exactly that for me
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I feel SO happy that Kingdom Hearts is getting a Toy Story world, but I'm also filled with a mix of disappointment, because I can't ignore the one giant problem. We all didn't need to see a TS world to get us to buy the game. This has got to be, the biggest wasted opportunity in gaming since...EVER.

This could of been, the gaming twist of ALL gaming twists, forget fucking Bioshock 1 twist, forget MGS twists, forget Metroid being a girl twist.

The somefuckinghow, Nomura got PIXAR to let us have worlds in KH twist, a meta twist that only we know that doesn't effect the game at all.

Can you imagine playing KH3 for the first time, the true fans out there, and stumbling upon a fucking TOY STORY world, live, in the moment, not knowing it is coming? Imagine as you're forced into this world, and your mind is racing as you cannot fathom what the FUCK is going on, fighting the heartless in Andy's room and your mind suddenly clicks, still in that moment of pure bliss

"Holy fuck. Pixar doors have opened. What can come next, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Monsters inc... BUGS LIFE?"

but now, this will never happen. The hype of TS will slow down as we wait a year, and your mind as time to realise we're probably getting more Pixar worlds, and Nomura just came out and said pretty much every world will be revealed until release, and most likely others in DLC. Sounds alot like fucking XV.

I just wanted to experience that magic for the first time, you know?
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Do any of the character paths in BBS have worlds exclusive to their path, or do you all go to the same areas

I just finished on Terra and now I'm on Ventus
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>>182981980
you go to different areas on each but some overlap. no exclusive worlds
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>>182981617
This is how this general used to be before you mobileshitters ruined it.
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>>182950976
>Also Xion goes missing for a total of 43 days with very little done about it. Roxas gets a little butthurt and immediately the entire Castle is out to get him.
Xion is a shitter while Roxas is strong other than this I agree with you 100%
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>>182981968

its time to stop posting anon
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>>182981749
They dont do those things. Unless their name is winnie the pooh Sora wont hang out with disney kids. They won't reference movie jokes or repeat them. Woody will never say to Sora "You are a toy!" or "Look out Sora a heartless hahaha" .
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>>182981968
Every KH game has had its worlds revealed before release. This is nothing new. Also
>toy story
>not hype
I think you underestimate how much people love Toy Story.
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I'm a bit disappointed that they're apparently gonna skip the obvious gag where Woody and the gang think Sora's crew is just going through the same thing Buzz did
I guess it's necessary for pacing purposes or something but still
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>>182982310
>Every KH game has had its worlds revealed before release
Don't think that's true
>>
>want to play KH2
>remember the level design
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>>182980932
>>182980932
>MEET THE ROBINSONS
>Bambi
>101 Dalmatians
>Monsters Inc or the Incredibles
>Atlantis
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>>182982105
Why?
>>182982310
You misunderstand anon, I know exatly how hype TS is. That is exactly the point i'm trying to make, imagine if it WASN'T spoiled, and we ran into it without knowing pixar was in the game
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>>182982438
Disney worlds are always, ALWAYS revealed. I remember the shitstorm when Tron and Pirates of the Caribbean were revealed
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>>182982223
>They won't reference movie jokes or repeat them.
Two words. Bullshit.
>Sora won't hang out with disney kids
Peter Pan and Pinocchio don't count? Plus there's a family of four plus Frozone. No one said that Sora explicitly has to run around the world with Dash.
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>>182982517
Id jizz myself on the spot
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>>182982438
Sorry, should have said Disney worlds. I think one or two of the original worlds weren't revealed.
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>>182982575
If you go back and watch non-english launch trailers for all the games, they don't really reveal every world
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>>182981968
>Calling Samus Aran Metroid

GTFO, normie
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>>182982441
>Want to play CoM
>Remember the cards

Speaking of, how the FUCK did Luxord not show up in CoM
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>>182982065
thats a horrible story
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>>182982641
Now instead you can edge for a year and a half and nut all over your screen when you finally play the world.
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>>182982739
Nomura only designed half of the Org at the time of CoM
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>>182982726
>Saying "normie"
>ever
Plus, everyone and their mother knows that the MC is Samus.
>>
Will Mickey finally stop being a mysterious fucker and actually help or not?
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>>182982823
But CoM and 2 were written with each other in mind.
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>>182981968

yeah because you're a fan scouring for information.

Just be happy for the new generation of kids that will pick this up randomly/get into the series/get it as a gift/whatever who will get to be surprised by everything.

I played KH1 and KH2 as a kid and getting to each world was a surprise, but I'm sure adults who were Square fans for example kept up with news & knew most of what worlds were in them before they booted up the game.
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>>182982894
Are we pretending to be in 2005 now?
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>>182981980
Being restricted to certain parts of the world's for no reason at all (even after finishing the world) was a stupid move and that's without mentioning how fucking stupid Castle of Dreams is.
>>
Larxene looks and sounds like the type of girl who will call you Daddy but also make you the sub
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>>182982894
Of course not. I'm sure he'll take off for 3/4 of the game like usual.
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Best world since KH1, prove me wrong.
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>>182983056
>aww what's the matter daddy? Did you wanna be on top tonight? Well tooooo bad.
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>>182982726
Newfag alert!
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>mfw picturing a Wall-E world flying through space with Wall-E and Eva

Just realised we won't be getting a Wall-E world because of the costume, what could Sora turn into... a robot? Stay human?
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>>182982912
dude, one of the Org XIII members in Com itself didn't have an actual weapon designed for him yet
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>>182983262
I have been here for a while. Maybe I just need to lurk even more
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>>182983198

It was oright i guess
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>>182983290
Who?
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>>182983271
forgot my god damn face
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>>182983271
Robot I guess because the actual humans are fat
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>>182955453
I'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit!
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>>182983252
I'm shocked that she was so boner-inducing.
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>>182983440
Zexion died a cutscene death in CoM, and his weapon display in KH2 was shattered (the room that leads to all the personal rooms with the Luxord and Saix fight)
He only got an actual fight once Re:CoM was a thing
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>>182983605
She stomp on your boner
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How many worlds should we realistically expect in he base game
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>>182983716
More like she'd electrocute it.
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>>182983716
>*She would
Sorry, brainfart
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>>182983801
At least 10.
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>>182983801
More than KH2FM, which was 15
So >>182983912 isn't wrong.
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>>182983801
IIRC, Nomura said there'd be more worlds than KH2. So at least one more, however many that is.
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>>182983198
>best world
>picks world from DDD
>doesn't pick Symphony of Sorcery

How could you forget possibly one of the best worlds of ALL TIME
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>>182957104
>>182957021
What? They take me 1~1.5 hours per game. Unless you mean in their entirety.
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>>182984341
I'm a slow player. I always take my time.
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>>182984097
Kinda tasteless since Otsuka/Nimoy are dead. But it would be interesting if there was a power struggle among the thirteen
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>Re:CoM Hollow Bastion
Fuck me man one battle in and I already know this place is going to be hell.
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Well now.
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question for the experts.

is "Terra possessed by Xehanort"at the end of BBS "Xemnas"? or is Xemnas ANOTHER separate character

will it become clearer. I'm determined to have a basic understanding of what's going on before KH3.
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>>182983801
>Can we expect far more worlds in Kingdom Hearts 3?

TN: With every Kingdom Hearts title, we plan to deliver more worlds than actually appear in game -- so we have something in our pockets to work with. Then as we begin to hone these worlds and stages, and some do get cut. [At this point], we have prepared more worlds, in that respect, than Kingdom Hearts 2.
https://www.engadget.com/2015/06/17/kingdom-hearts-3-e3-2015/
They had more worlds planned than in kh2, which was around 15-16 iirc. Whether they actually will have more is yet to be seen
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>>182984546
Just you wait until Destiny Islands and then finally Castle Oblivion. Castle Oblivion will make you want to kill yourself with all the Defenders and Neoshadows.
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>>182984626
They clearly say who Xemnas is in 2, if you're one of those 1 and 2 only players.

If you're making your way through the games, you'll find out.
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>>182984341

>he doesnt enjoy playing the worlds
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>>182984626
Terranort
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>>182984813

I think I understand who Xemnas is now, it's just been about 10 years since I beat 2. but then what's the current status report on Terra-Xehanort?
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>>182985004
Says who again? Don't project.
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>>182983801
>>182984097
>>182984641
What we have so far
Twilight Town
Mt Olympus
Tangled (new)
BH6 (new)
Toy Story (new)
most likely Radiant Garden
most likely 100 Acre Woods
Cable Town (new)
so at least 8 more worlds?
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>>182985253
Vanished, unknown location
His lingering will lives on in the keyblade graveyard
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>>182985323
Shibuya or riot.
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>>182985323
What is Cable Town?
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>>182985630
A world shown at the 2.5 launch event.
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>>182985630
A few years ago there was private screening at a fan event that showed concept art and footage for kh3. When of the things described was the cable town world
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>>182985836
*One of
fuck me
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>>182936002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMYLzPs0qq4

>friendly reminder to brace yourselves for incoming normie influx of "I LOVED THE TOY STORY LEVEL XDDD" on facebook
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>>182984747
>tfw I'm already getting annoyed with the Wyverns, Defenders, and Wizards now
Should I be running anything else other than Sonic Blade, Fire Raid, and Cross Slash? I'm getting bored and I'm doing every battle I can on Standard because I'm worried about being underleveled.
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>>182985371

Thank you. I think I'm starting to piece things together.

It seems like I'm going to have a lot of my questions answered when I finally get to Dream Drop Distance on my PS4. which is weird because it was described to me as one of the less important games.

I'm replaying everything, but I was considering skipping KH2. It's clear that I better replay KH2 too though. Obviously I'm going to forget a lot from a game I bought on launch night when I was 13.
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>>182986207
you should be able to spam Jafar + Ars Arcanum by now
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>>182986118
>using social media
I think I'll be good.
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>>182986118
look in this thread if you want to be sad
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>>182986270
>which is weird because it was described to me as one of the less important games.
Somebody lied.
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>>182986118

What is this, an image for ants?
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>>182986207
Personally I never ran any sleights besides Blizzaga on Proud so I have no clue what's actually good for fights. Trinity Limit only appears in Castle Oblivion and Mega Flare I can't remember when. Just have Jafar and Maleficent in your loadout. Start with Maleficent to drop the penalty she brings and then use Jafar right after, that usually cleans most groups you fight. Also look into how to set up Keyblade combos since that increases your damage output as well.
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>>182986379
he must've made a trip to /v/.
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>>182986270
Final Mix adds a bunch of stuff too so you better play KH2.
>It seems like I'm going to have a lot of my questions answered when I finally get to Dream Drop Distance on my PS4.
Oh boy, you'll just get more questions than answers in that game.
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>>182986270

>Skipping KH2
>Skipping the best game
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>>182986554
Why didn't YX summon his keyblade during his fight in BBS?
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>>182986690
listen if I could choose between lightsabers and keyblades I would choose lightsabers
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>>182986642
I tried to play it when I was a wee gal. Never again I said but I changed my mind. I will think to play it by buying the compilations. My only question is if they can be played on the PS4 so I don't have to buy 2 consoles.
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>>182986992
>gal
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>>182986992

>I tried to play it when I was a wee gal. Never again I said but I changed my mind

Thats some shit taste
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>>182986690
Because he didn't have a keyblade back. If he used one in DDD, it was because MX was possessing him.
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>>182980932
>the gang time travel too far into the future
>xehanort has already won
>the world is in ruin looking like the keyblade graveyard
>wall-e comes out from behind a rock to say hi to the gang
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>>182987087
I had the game but it didn't run. Though I also learned it had a longass prologue which made me feel like not touching it until the compilations were released.
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>>182986303
>182985630
>Jafar + Ars Arcanum
I don't have Ars yet
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Ok, so Young Xehanort uses laser swords, Master Xehanort could use laser swords but uses a keyblade, Xemnas who doesn't have a keyblade therefore uses laser swords, right?
Why doesn't Ansem use laser swords?
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>>182987134
>possessing
Where do you guys get this?
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>>182987367
what level you at though? if you're in Hollow Bastion and you've fought most mobs you should get it soon
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>>182986992
pls pls pls be in london
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>>182987461
You mean SoD? He has his guardian to do the work for him.
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>>182987461
because ansem has memory problems
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>>182986690
Two lightsabers > one keyblade
>>182987461
Ansem is a heartless
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>>182987461
It's been heavily hinted that Xemnas COULD use a keyblade but doesn't. Everything points to Terra/him tricking the Org
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>>182985323
>most likely 100 Acre Woods

How? There is nothing left to tell
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>>182987482
I'm at 40 right now.
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>>182987926

Theres like atleats 98 acres left
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>>182987926
There was never anything to tell in the first place. I'm sure they could easily find more trouble for Pooh to bumble like a retard into
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>>182987986
well, you'll get it soon then
you could do what the other guy said and fill your deck with blizzagas (plus the blue flying heartless as an enemy card) too, just keep some physical sleights for wizards
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>>182986642

when I said "skip", I meant that I wanted to play Dream Drop Distance ASAP. But now I think I'll replay 2.5 HD on PS4 before I even try Dream Drop Distance.

either way I'm going to replay every single game before KH3.
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>>182986992

Every game is on PS4 now. obviously SE is thinking about $$$ but it really is a great thing for new players that you can just say "every single game is compiled and remastered for PS4" and its not a hassle to get into the series now, just in time for KH3.
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Kingdom Hearts 7 when
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>>182989051
4040
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>Want to get a ps4
>Going to uni in the fall

Looks like I'm stuck playing KH2FM on my Laptop
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I hope KH3 has 100 Acre Wood and I hope it has more Winnie the Pooh-themed extreme sports
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>>182989210
I hope they put all Cure spells in 100 Acre Woods so you have to do it if you want a healing spell
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>>182989408

delet this
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>>182988195
Alright I'm looking forward to it

Also how is there no cleavage here
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>>182989551
cleavage shadow is there
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>>182989551
>>Also how is there no cleavage here
you know very well why
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Anons, give it to me straight, I should just give up on a Dumbo world, shouldn't I?

It's my dream world, man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CORf1liT9cE
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>>182989914

Dumbo world would be boring as shit
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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/07/16/kingdom-hearts-3-director-hints-at-second-playable-character

Who would be the other playable character /khg/? Riku again?
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>>182989914
Would Sora turn into an elephant or a mouse
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>>182990042

Kairis panties
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How many Disney characters know about the existence of other worlds? At least the princesses of heart, Simba, Mushu, Beast, the villains and Mickey's crew, right?
How is world order not completely fucked at this point?
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I literally have no idea how KH3 is about to continue after the "Xenahort arc" ends if Sora stays as a main character. And I feel the relationship between Sora and Kairi will either go absolutely nowhere due to this or it turns into another dramatic plot point in the future.

I guess it really doesn't matter though because I won't even live long enough to see KH5 anyway.
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>>182990062
neither
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>>182990042
Riku, Kairi, Ventus, or Roxas maybe.
Riku, Ventus, and Roxas would be boring. I'm hoping for playable Kairi or a surprise like Skuld or Ephemer
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>>182990401
second keyblade war arc my guy
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>>182990365
well, I'd argue all of the other summons too, but Stitch for sure since he shows up in some Hollow Bastion cutscenes crawling on walls
Merlin and the fairies too
also King Triton
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You know, I think a lot of the frustration people have with KH comes from them straight up not paying attention.
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Roxas on critical is pretty annoying.
Level 40 right now, I can use reflect a couple times to get him down to 2 or so health bars but afterwards he just rapes me.
Send help.
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>>182990980
I always thought it was pretty neat how Mushu and Simba recognized SDG even though they were only summons in the first game.
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>>182989134
>playing KH2FM on my Laptop
How good is your laptop and how well does it run?
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>>182989134

Get a job poorfag
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>>182990401
>Worlds are connected again
>Sora and co. train a new generation of Keyblade wielders to act as the DARKNESS police/peacekeepers
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>>182990365
>How is world order not completely fucked at this point?

It's basically the Prime Directive, it WILL be fucked with but the goal is not to. I would love a game in the series where the world order gets thrown out the window and everyone is interacting with everyone, but it won't happen.
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>>182991157
Protip: do a full combo on him without explosion and avoid his retaliation
Also git gud at blocking and keep your distance
There's also a way to cheese him by making him do the same attacks over and over again but it's boring.
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>>182991149
From the lack of reading comprehension you seen from people freaking out over the >It's coming in 2020 guys!! click bait articles, the haha it's never coming out xD memesters, the entitled 1+2 onlies, to the shitty reviews from "professional journalists" who get basic kh facts wrong I am thoroughly convinced that people are absolutely retarded when it comes to KH.
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>>182990365
King Triton
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>>182983336
>Normalfag*
Yeah
Lurk more faggot
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So what exactly determines when someone has to go back to their original time when time traveling? I get that they go back and forget everything after a certain point, but couldn't YX Xemnas and SoD stay in the future indefinitely as long as they go back at some point? Also, what if you were to kill a time traveler? How would this setting handle time paradoxes?
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>Mark of Mastery
>MoM
>Master of Masters
>MoM

horey shiet deepest lore
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>>182994892
>Sora's mom hasn't shown up since she called Sora for dinner
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>>182995494
R E T C O N N E D
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Who's the worst KH3D boss and why is it Tron?
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>>182996251
Does the triple boss fight for Sora in Traverse Town count? The one in that small area. I can't believe anyone thought this was a good idea.
Meanwhile Riku has to fight some Rhinos instead.
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>>182996484
Oh, fuck that one too
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>>182990062
He'd just be real tiny, like the first game.
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>>182982438
DDD had all it's worlds revealed before release. Heck, we knew the World That Never Was was going to be the final area before it even came out.

And all the other ones have had heavy featuring of their various worlds.
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>KH starts doing original stories for some worlds
>People still assume that we're getting Alice In Wonderland 2010 instead of normal Wonderland
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>>182980932
Meet the Robinsons
Frozen
Treasure Planet
Emperor's new Groove
Port Royal for the Dead Man's Chest plotline
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>>182980932
My dream world would basically be The Great Mouse Detective with Freya tagging along as a guest character but they don't really do FF characters in Disney worlds aside from Olympus do they
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stop requesting Aqua lewds on drawthreads.
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>The Vexen fight on Floor 10
No matter what I try, I can't fucking get him. If I weren't so determined to finish this before moving on, I would have gone on to 2FM already.
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>>182998476
no.
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How would it be like if there was a Meet the Robinsons world?
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>>182998951
Something something time travel with young xehanort trying to use it for himself.
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>>182998951
nobody cares about this movie. I rather have a dinoseurs 3d world than that.
>>182998746
look at this! You people need to be stopped
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>>182999368
Speak for yourself. At least two people here want it
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I hope MoM retcons the story that noone ever mentions seasalt ice cream ever again
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there are two ongoing adventures in kh3.

sora and gang's
riku and Mickey's

the second playable character is obviously riku.
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I fucking hate Nomura
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>>182942942
>and how you can pinpoint around when he got Norted

Oh shit, really?
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>>182982096
Actually by that point in the story, Roxas is significantly weakened by Xion, to the point where Saïx refers to him as "the one we can't use."
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Kimgdom hearts songs could use some vocals
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>>182998476
>dont stop requesting Aqua lewds on drawthreads.
ftfy
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>>182984321
>Sound Design Sins: The World
No
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>>183001369
Dive into the heart: Destati
All you need baby
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>>182999368
uncensored where
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>>183000656
Not him, but while it seems Saix and Axel were on shaky ground by the time you find out their backstory in Days, there's clearly a point in the reports where their already flimsy friendship just implodes. Which is a shame when you find out how good of friends they were in BbS and the fact that Axel offed people for Saix. The Norting is more than likely what caused it to go to shit so badly.
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How many Keyblades will Sora be able to use at once in KH3
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>>183001992
>>>/d/7542956
:V
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>>182957315

Destiny Islands.
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>>183002296
:D
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reminder Bears are monsters
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>>183002762
Fuck you Ava I just wanted to find the traitor.
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>>183002296
How did she kiss her own cheek?
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>>182998476
t. gaybro
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>>183002296
That looks awful.
Jesus Christ.
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>>183000298
Honestly I hope that this is the case. Playable Riku with even more broken worlds to explore and Mickey, and later Aqua, as partners? Sign me up
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>>183003407
Mirror Aqua
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>>183003696

don't forget our boy, diz.
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>>183003987
when Mickey and Riku rescue Aqua they will leave Diz in the dark realm
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>>183004265

umm, why would riku and Mickey mouseabandon their ally?
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>>182969797
>the guy who gets murdered in Traverse Town turns into a Soldier

And there's either one/two other guys that look like him, or he has a twin(s), or perhaps a nobody.
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>>182985323
Don't forget Land of Departure, it was supposedly shown in the Cable Town trailer
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>>183004620
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>>183004739
theres a theory they are both the same worlds but we know too little
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>>183004739
Cable Town is probably just where Xehanort and Eraqus are from if there's a chess theme, which means it's >>183004852 because we know that Eraqus stayed behind to inherit his master's whatever. (Castle? Kingdom? Planet? we don't know)
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>>183005103
Xehanort is from Destiny island
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>>183005197
right, forgot
so it's their master's house or castle. I'll be impressed if Nomura wraps it all up and the decrepit house in Twilight Town was his estate
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>>183005103
>Eraqus gets a lavish castle and private world all to himself
>Xehanort gets a fucking fancy keyblade
I'd be bitter too, goddamn
>>
Do you have party members in Dream Drop Distance? or is it just KH1 & KH2?

The combat is so fucking fun in BBS but not having party members is the only shortcoming gameplay wise
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>>183004762

Yeah but the look alike in Traverse Town isn't even a recolour and he's like "Oh? No you must've mistook me for someone else." which means they knew they looked completely the same and didn't bother to recolour him!
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>>183007593
Dream Eaters are basically party members but without a wide variety of moves compared to the other games.
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>>183007593
You get Dream Eaters, but they're kind of dopey and not much use in combat
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>>183007593
DDD has a pokémon system for its party members
Get R & R Seal's second chance ASAP,
once more too but later on.
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>>183007593
You have party members.... Once or twice. Hercules and the Prince from the Sleeping Beauty fight with you. And there is this one fight with the rest of the trio

Aside from that, you are right. And I am glad that I'm not the only one who likes the gameplay of BbS
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Was Saix gay for Axel?
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>>183008909

It's 50/50 honestly.
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>>183008909

they were best friends before axel gave up on saix.
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>>183008002

yeah I know. I'm almost finished now- on my last character story. In a way it works, since you're these well trained Keyblade Masters with tons of moves in your arsenal. but I do enjoy having party members fighting by your side.

People don't like BBS gameplay?

The only thing that confused me so far is when I'm trying to get into my Command Style and I do a finish attack instead and the bar resets. Also I don't understand why they had you put potions in the same slots as attack commands.
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No matter what order i put the middle 3 medals in, the damage output remains the same
I thought some enemies are weaker to gen damage than attribute damage
help me out /khg/
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I really hope Square Enix fixes Woody, Buzz and the rest of the Toys blink animations, they're suppose to have an offset blink, maybe even give SDG that while in Toy Form
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>>183010126
No one likes BBS gameplay. It's stiff, restricting, completely unbalanced, and makes no sense.
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>>183010564
Seriously, who the fuck cares about blink animations? It's such a non-essential detail. Curb your autism and roll with it.
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>>183010564
I don't remember this. Did they do that in TS2 and 3?

Maybe they blinked out of sync because CG in 1995 was really jank
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>>183010564

Oh man.
Talk about attention to detail Anon.
I'm not sure I would have noticed/realized that.
But I did feel like something was a little off when they closed their eyes honestly.
Then again I haven't watched the Toy Story movies in years.

But Pixar is actually working with SE, so they'll probably change it. Although weren't the characters doing a thinking blink?
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>>183010564

Did they keep that in TS3 though?

Funny enough, I remember my friend complaining that they didn't do the animation properly for Halloween Town in KH1, but the game came out in 2002 so I didn't think they'd even be able to do that properly.
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>>183011804
>>183012536
Just watched a few scenes from TS3, Woody seems to be the only one who carried this trait over, but it's not as noticeable as before, so I guess SE doesn't really need to fix it

>>183012271
No those were screenshots of just normal blinking
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>>183000360
Delete this.
I know you can't but find a way.
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>>183012810
The Little Green Men still have noticeable offset blinks in Toy Story 3
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>>183010759

it's definitely unbalanced. I thought it was meant to make you feel a bit overpowered. don't agree with the rest of your comments on it. It's fun.

What do most KH fans consider to be the best of the series gameplay wise?
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>>183013126
>What do most KH fans consider to be the best of the series gameplay wise?

combat gameplay*, that is.
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>>183013246
KHIIFM
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>>183013529
Is there a huge difference between KH2 and KH2FM gameplay wise?
The only difference to Sora's moveset I can remember is the addition of Limit Form.
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>>183010759
I like it. The other anon likes it
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>>183013246
Sort of off-topic, but was DDD considered a good game
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>>183014403
Block got buffed (it gives you some iframes following a successful block), Quick Run got buffed, some keyblade abilities were modified, a lot of small stuff
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>>183014717
its fun but in no way balanced and lacks depth
better than BBS imo
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>>183014717
>entering any battle without a maxed drop gauge
Only his fault desu, DDD has a lot of flaws but I think it has the best character development in both Sora and Riku.
Sora, accepting that his keyblade is his only because of his friends and Riku, by finally admitting that he can be happy again and that his mistakes were forgiven. Also Riku's final battles are pretty cool, but the rest of the game is meh
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>>183014852
Neat, thanks for the info!
KH2FM gets even better the more I learn about it.
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>>183015227
>Sora, accepting that his keyblade is his only because of his friends
>KH1 Hollow Bastion
>Riku, by finally admitting that he can be happy again and that his mistakes were forgiven
>KH2 TWTNW
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>Chinese Lilo and Stitch

https://youtu.be/KLAShf3dEeU

Just how popular is the "Stitch" franchise?
It had like 4 movies, a TV Series, an anime and now a new Chinese cartoon.
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>>183013126
Enemies randomly breaking out of combos and dodging attacks doesn't make you feel overpowered, nor does it make sense. Getting stuck in attack and command animations with no ability to react and no i-frames can only be described as stiff and makes no sense. When bosses only have one or two ways of being defeated, which can usually only be learned by grinding commands, that's restricting. It's literally impossible to survive Dark Zack's opening attack on Proud unless a full Shotlock is perfectly timed or one grinds to an obscene level.
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How many Disney worlds do you guys think will be in KHIII? Up until this point everyone I've heard has been assuming that it'd be at least as many as in II, but I'm a little concerned after that recent interview where Nomura sort of vaguely implied that they're focusing on quality rather than quantity.
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>>183015227
It's easy to forget about.
>Fighting Wargoyle on critical for the first time.
>Get demolished a couple times
>Figure I need to switch to Riku soon anyway.
>Get prepped and go in so I can learn his pattern.
>Expect to drop mid fight.
>Get a good rhythm going.
>Last bar.
>Gauge is ticking down.
>Beat him in the final second.
That moment was satisfying enough to redeem the drop gauge for me.
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>they will never even attempt to fix bbs
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>>183016467

>>182984641
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>>183016467
I heard in an earlier interview he said there would be more than KHII.
I'm parroting from here and can't source that though.
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>>183016467

he said it would be more than kh2. and keep in my mind this game has been development for 4 years now.
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>>183015937
I think that's an anime. Is that Stitch!, right? Another reason why Lilo & Stitch is not gonna happen: Japan hates Lilo
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realistically, i don't think there'll be that many worlds in KH3 since every world seems to take them a lot of time to complete
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>>183016873
Any reason why they hate her?
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I wonder if we'll get anything as cool as Hollow Bastion again?
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>>183016873

No it's not the Stitch! anime.
They're making a new Chinese Stitch cartoon.
It looks more accurate than the Japanese cartoon surprisingly.
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>>183017224

Nomura already said it'll have more world's than KH2
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>>183016873
It's Ai & Stitch, a brand new series created for the Chinese audience, it takes place before the Stitch! anime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_%26_Ai

Dragons and other Chinese mythological creatures appear in it
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I unironically like Terra.
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>>183018141
I like him too, but you can't say he doesn't have an Anakin level of ignorance
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>>183017374
Japan's history with Hawaii isn't that great
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>>183018247
All three did. They all just believed whoever first talked to them but Terra got unlucky. Aqua helped Peter Pan even after he admitted he stole the treasure from Hook.
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ITT: Call your predictions for TGS 2017, if KH3 shows up there

>Final Fantasy orientated trailer
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>>183018464
Final fantasy isn't getting any worlds, this was confirmed last year and has never happened before in the series
So unless they focus on guest characters for 3 minutes: no
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>>183018247
At the very least, Terra didn't outright lie to the other two like Aqua did.
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>>183015514
They also shuffled the level up abilities so that Sora isn't as powerful early in the game.

In addition, Critical Mode is new to FM and cuts your HP and MP in half while also giving Sora a x1.25 damage buff and several abilities at the end of Roxas.
It makes the game much more engaging by offering a properly-balanced challenge, around which all of the new bosses are designed.
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>>183018247
Doesn't stop me from liking both

>>183018328
Reminder that Ventus helped the Evil Queen
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>>183018758
Aqua is a bitch. A BITCH. I hate how she treated Terra and I hate how inconsistent it is with how she defends him when it comes to other people badmouthing him
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>>183019029

Aqua kind of is a bitch.
She willing to completely destroy anyone with a lot of darkness in them. Didn't she pretty much murder Cinderella's step sisters?
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>>183019653
>Didn't she pretty much murder Cinderella's step sisters?
Haven't finished the game yet but they pretty much killed themselves by spawning the Pumpkin boss throwing bombs.
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Aqua is beautiful inside and outside.
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>>183021106
Aqua is a piece of shit
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Aqua is a divisive character who could be saved by actual good writing.
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>>183021106
Aqua is meant to be coated with semen inside and out
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>>183015937
>>183016873
>>183017637
>>183018013
Don't fans, as well as the creators of Lilo & Stitch, hate the anime?
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https://www.khinsider.com/news/Nomura-Confirms-Attraction-Flow-Will-Be-A-Constant-Surprise-9753
How does everyone feel about this? Personally I never used or cared about summons so I don't give a shit about this either
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>>183024161
eh, as long as they're not forced on you I don't care. I'll probably use them once in a while but otherwise ignore them
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>>183023289

Yes.
I think it had a couple good episodes but in general I didn't like it either.

The new Chinese cartoon takes place after the first movie. I think it involves space pirates trying to use Stitch as a weapon and he ends up falling into China.
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>>183024161
It means that it's the new Frozen Fortune. Hopefully, it won't be as retarded to get
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>>183024161
So that means it's different depending on what terrain you are on?
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>>183022754
Aqua is solely responsible for more destruction than anyone else in the Kingdom Hearts series except for MoM and Eraqus and should have been the one to suffer Terra's punishment.
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>>183025598
Am I forgetting something? Apart from saving Terranort what did she do?
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>>183025773
She saves Terra-Xehanort from becoming trapped in the Realm of Darkness, though at the cost of her getting stuck there instead. This leads to an amnesiac Terra-Xehanort becoming Ansem the Wise's apprentice, which in turn causes a chain of events that allows every other game in the franchise to happen. In Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Aqua mentions that Ven is in the Chamber of Waking... right in front of Xehanort!Possessed Terra... who then uses this to fuel his ideas, which Xemnas later uses himself in The World That Never Was, as mentioned by Xigbar.
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>>182980932
Ayo give me Treasure Planet and Atlantis and we're all good.
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>>183026096
>>183025773
She also drove Ven away from the Land of Departure and broke Terra's trust, facilitating the creation of the X-blade and Terra's fall to darkness that made him a worthy host for Xehanort.
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Which is the better manga Days or KH2?
I'm searching for reaction images
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>>183027270
Days
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>>183027270
Days manga is meme central.
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>>183027270
Does BbS have a manga?
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>>183027270
Days is great
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>>183027553
No, and I heard that there won't be one. I hope that was misinformation, or just plain wrong, because I'm going through the manga right now and I would like a BbS one at some point.

Also is there anywhere I can find english scans on CH 66 and up of KHII? I can't seem to find them anywhere.
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>>183027810
Amano put KHII on hold to do all of Days.

Then he went back to KHII, finished it, and said that the manga was over.
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>got another Young Sora from grinding UC last night
>got extra attack on it
>didn't go up in percentage though
Finally this is almost useful. Slightly more than my double attack not-guilted Cinderella does. Maybe I'll use both when 0 ap ends sometime in the week so I can tank the boss' attacks an pick it apart slowly without going back in.
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>>183027608
>Roxas
There's no way this is real.
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>>183022828
I want to put my semen on her tummy.
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>>183028342
The context was Demyx warning Roxas that Phil's training wasn't only meant to increase their power, but also bulking up to looking like Lexeaus.
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>>183028342

It's real Anon.
Just read the manga.

They're all pretty much parody's.
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Finally starting my 3rd BBS playthrough (Aqua route).

what types of abilities/commands should I focus on getting her for a quick & efficient playthrough? Best command style for aqua?
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I hope Aqua is not a slut though masturbation is fine.
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>>183030071
All Magic commands. I actually kept her first shotlock but I heard there were better ones

Get all HP Boost as soon as you can and Exp Walk too

Focus on getting the elemental powers, I guess, and for the love of Kingdom Hearts, GET SEEKER MINE
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>>183030071

Just play the fucking game Anon.
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>>183030071
>>183030117
I forgot. Magic Haste is also a must
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>>183030071
Second Chance, Once More, Leaf Bracer, Magic Haste, Attack Haste.
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Why is kh1 so comfy bros? Must be the 30th time I've played the game and it's just the best
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>>183031464
Because it's Simple and Clean
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The closer we get to KH3 the less hype I get. Not because it looks bad or anything, in fact I think it looks fantastic. But, I think I enjoyed theorizing about what KH3 might be more than actually seeing it after all these years. Same thing happened with Twin Peaks.
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i hope the other playable character in 3 is larxene :3
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>>183032019

That would be a twist.
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>>183032204
Larxene is dumb for saying that she is drinking a non-alcoholic beverage there. I mean, for what purpose?
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>>182980932
Incredibles
Atlantis
Treasure Planet
Monsters Inc
Black Cauldron
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>>183032515

Who knows?
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>>182980932
-The Jungle Book
-Sword in the Stone
-Treasure Planet
-Atlantis the Lost Empire
-Wall-E
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>>182980932
>The Rescuers
>Robin Hood
>Atlantis
>Treasure Planet
>The Incredibles
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>>183032017

I remember all the buzz around the kh2 secret ending m. Everyone thinking it was kh3. How foolish we were
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>>183034040
I would not be surprised if at some point Birth by Sleep was going to be KHIII somehow.
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>>182980932

Per usual: Treasure Planet and Atlantis

Bambi (I dunno how, but I'd like to see it)
Dumbo (for elephants on parade)
Ichabod and Mr.Toad (because that could be fun)

I think The Sword and the Stone should happen because the characters are already familiar with Merlin. The Black Cauldron and Sora Donald and Goofy can be very easily inserted into the plot. The Emperors New Groove could be fun/interesting just to see what they do with the writing. I'd love to see Oliver and Company just because I really like the movie.
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>>182980798
Pocahontas
Jungle Book
Treasure Planet
Emperor's New Groove
Wreck it Ralph
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>>182980213
those costumes wouldn't be necessary, not every world needs an outfit change
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>>182980932
Treasure Planet
Atlantis
Emperor's New Groove
Monsters Inc
Zootopia

>>182987257
I actually kind of like this

>>183026651
>>183033061
>>183033374
>>183033546
>>183034470
>>182981756
Surprised how many people want Atlantis and Treasure Planet. Is it too much to hope they make it in?
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>>182987257

Xehanort rips open a portal in time and flings them into a future ruled by Xehanort. Insert watcha
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>>183035550

>long ago in a distant land, a foolish keyblade warrior stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck I Xehanort master of evil ripped open a portal in time and flung him into a future ruled by my evil.

Etc
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>>183035283
Treasure Planet has a very high chance of being in it, it seems it was going to be in 3D

Can't wait to hear bootleg Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Emma Thompson
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>>183036151
Then Jungle Book should have a high chance since it was on BbS
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Let's admit it here. Probably only over half of the world's will be the plot-related exclusive ones and only the other half will be Disney
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>>183036702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGO8-_mPZ4

I wonder what the story would have been. Terra gets hypnotized into doing villainy by Kaa making the other two hear bad stories about him as they visit, Ventus as a battle against Louie's monkey army, and Aqua ends it with a boss battle against Shere Khan?
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Does anyone know why Sora has cat ears in Toy Story world?
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>>183037592
Maybe I'm a Lion.
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What do you think Larxene smells like?
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>>183037887
Trash
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>>183037887
Lemons. What do you think Aqua smells like?
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>>183038323
Wet dog
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>>183038323
The ocean. What do you think Sora smells like? And would the different Soras have different smells?
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>>183038542
sweat
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>>183038542
Sand.
I want to go to the beach with Aqua.
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>>183038542
Like a new toy you got on Christmas morning for this form
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>>183038542
Kairi.
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playing recom.

soo... how do heartless cards work? I same you just put them into deck and the effect is active until the mentioned limit, amirite?
also I have 99 World cards already, do I really have to manually delete them one by one? how do I even know which ones are safe to throw away?

I got into the sleights and it's fun so far, reached neverland after larxene fight.
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>>183039785
Press Select

>do I really have to manually dleete them one by one?
Yes
>how do I even know which ones are safe to throw away?
World cards don't matter and you can't delete Keys. Just keep what you want to keep.
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>>183040640
ps4 here, press select refers to?
thanks for the info so far!
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>>183041278
fug
I've played this game on three different systems with a Select button

It's the touch pad. Press it during combat to see your enemy cards.
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>>183041278
Touchpad you silly.
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Imagine if Nomura didn't have to announce KH3 in 2013. 0.2 might have been an actual game.
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>>183041278
Touchpad is the new Select on DS4.
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>>182984612
>He pulled a BEGINNER DEAL
>He didn't pull a Gem deal

Dude?
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>>183041983
>>183041874
>>183041795
yes yes fug I played it with ps2 in mind ha.
I feel stupid now, those boss cards are so good. suddenly the battles get easy as fuck.
thanks guys kek
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>>183041969
I like the way it is now. It doesn't need to be a full game.
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>>183042409
If you've got Maleficent and Jafar they will essentially carry you. Start a battle with Maleficent to bypass its downside and then follow up with Jafar. Same deal with bosses.
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>>182987615
as far as I knew SoD is TN's Heartless with MX's memories, that's what makes him a unique Heartless.
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why do people claim Rinzler is hard?
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>>183038920
I will make this come true. I hope I can get someone to buy Sora for me. I want his toy so much ever since I saw it
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>>183041969
I don't mind 0.2 being a Ground Zeroes kind of game
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>>182987772
>yfw they didn't take the opportunity to add an extra phase to the Xemnas fight in FM where he pulls out a keyblade and you're like WHAAAAAAAAAT
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god Kh3D trailers were so filled with false hope
>omg vanitas
>appears only during that 1 scene, never gets discussed
>omg repliku
>doesnt say a thing, fucks off, kidnapped pinocchio for no reason. plot of world resolved
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>>183043861

frozen
Tangled
big hero six
toy story
treasure planet
Atlantis
emperor's new groove

are all the new Disney worlds.
>>
do people actually want more vanitas? he was like the worst part of bbs
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>>183046667
No, you just have shit taste
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>>183046165
That wasn't Replica Riku.
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>>183046829
Then who was it?
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>>183046667
imagine fighting Vanitas, Riku Repilca and Re:coded's Heartless Sora simultaneously
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>>183047065
Not him but there is an alternative, Possessed Riku in a cloak.

Granted that's a pretty low power level to bring to the table.
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>>183047065
Riku. It was a representation of when he was consumed and driven by darkness. Hence the line, me at my worst.
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>>183048051
>black coat
It's Riku-Ansem
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>>183048213
I was half right.
>>
whatever, people thought repliku back then in the trailer
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Post Nova level and how much money you've spent
>229
>f2p
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aqua always sounds really sleepy
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>>183048905
post proofs nigger
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>>183050061
I have guilted every story medal to max except 2 which is 72 levels. I'm usually quite lucky with my rolls for some reason, so maxing event medals doesn't take too long compared to some people
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>>183048905
1234
$1000000
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>>183026096
B-but she had good intentions, right? And everything will be alright in the end, right?

Still, how she acted around Terra was pretty shitty.
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>>183052879
You know what they say about good intentions. Just replace Hell with the Realm of Darkness.
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Aced smells, has a big belly and isnt cute at all.
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>>183054094
Shut up Ava.
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>>183054094
Choke on my 10 inch cock Ava. I know you want to don't deny it. You know damn well it's a step up from Gula's 4 inch wonder.
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>>183054292
Ira has 12, has bigger muscles than you, smells better and isnt retarded
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>>183054396
IRA IS A TRAITOR!
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>>183055029
We all know you're the traitor Aced, you're just too stupid to realize it yourself.
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>>183056148
>the only one willing to hunt down the traitor
>the only one willing to fight the darkness head on
>the only one who didn't sit around doing nothing
Yeah. Totally the traitor.
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>KH3 will feature less Disney worlds than KH2

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20016371.html
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>>183056842
Good. Less filler bullshit.
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>>183056923
>Less filler bullshit
looks like disney worlds are going to be more involved in the overworld plot though
>sora going to Olympus to regain strength
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>>183056842
>moonrunes
Come on, man, it's too early for this shit.
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>>183057026
>overworld
meant to saying overall
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>>183056663
I was gonna call you out saying Aced does none of those thing but you are actually right.
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>>183057026
Oh nigger please. "Going to regain strength" is just the game's way of making you start from level 1 again.
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>>183057139
What quest is that?
I'm guessing global doesn't have it yet?
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>>183057289
675
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Coming back to this series on a whim; haven't touched it since KH2 ten years ago. I don't remember it being that good, but nostalgia compels me to see where it's ended up.

Good God, that's a lot of re-releases.
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>>183056842
If it has 10 that's fine by me. KH1 has 12 IIRC. KH2 had 15 and at least two of them could be cut without effecting the game at all. Nomura has stated that the world's will be bigger and more involved so that'd be better than the nothing KH2 worlds were.
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>>183057409
PS4 has three HD collections containing everything bar KH3.
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>>183057389
2 months away then.
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>>183057471
2
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>>183057524
2.8 sort of counts with DDD.
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>>183057635
That makes 2
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>>183057474
uhhm
in 2 months is union cross questline which started with only 5 quests in jp.
I dont remember how long jp had to wait for the other 10 quests or if we only get 5 quests too
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>>183057649
Oh, right.
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>>183056842
KH2 had 13 disney worlds and 15 overall
kh3 already has 4 announced and TT
We have at most 8 more disney worlds to go
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>>183057743
And they'll all be revealed before KH3 is released. They'll have to pick up the pace with information.
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>>183057802
There's plenty of time. Don't expect KH3 until Q4 2018.
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>>183057887
It'll be December 22 just like KH2 13 years prior.
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>>183057996
Exactly. I see you've taken the 13pill too.
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>>183057996
That's my birthday, so I'll be pretty happy with that.
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>>183056842
Seems like a season/month will be given next trailer along with a look at BH6?

KH2 has 11 disney worlds (not incl. disney castle), KH3 has 4 currently announced, there probably at least 10 if this report is correct. Nomura has said he has more worlds "planned" than any KH game before, but due to time constraints, worlds he feel like don't fit or is saving for another game this may not be the case.

Even if this is true nomura has mentioned that the worlds are huge and dense. Keep in mind it mentions DISNEY worlds, being the final chapter of the Xehanort saga we are most likely going to see alot of KH original worlds:
>twilight town
>cable town
>keyblade graveyard
>castle oblivion (aqua will most likely turn it back into land of departure)
>mysterious tower (not original but no disney plot)
Radiant garden, disney castle would probably appear. Would be cool to see traverse town in HD but I see no reason for its return.
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>>183017224
>B-B-BUT NOMURA SAID THERE'LL BE MORE WORLDS THAN IN KH2. IF HE SAID HOW CAN IT NOT BE TRUE???
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>>183058450
Who are you quoting?
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>>183058450
>SAID THERE'LL BE MORE WORLDS THAN IN KH2.
He didn't actually say that
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>>183058596
delusional kh fans with low standards
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>>183058630
What?
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>>183056842
I told you fags that Nomura interview was worrying
>>
so the rumor was true
>>
>>183059534
No it wasn't
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>>183059534
whar rumor?
Toy story wasnt a rumor it was wishful thinking
>>
It is official that KH3 has less disney worlds than KH2. Add this to the OP next thread

http://gematsu.com/2017/07/kingdom-hearts-iii-less-disney-worlds-kingdom-hearts-ii-final-fantasy-vii-remake-along-areas
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>>183059667
>"...there are various different projects that happen within our company, so unfortunately timing did not work out. So we had to make due with the timing that was appropriate for the company...the company makes the decisions, so unfortunately sometimes it is out of my control.”
>2018 release

seems to me like it was
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>>183059725
>FF7R cutscenes are further along than KH3
nani
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>>183059751
Are you retarded
>>
>>183059794
FFVII part one lol
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>>183059723
a guy on twitter that was known for predicting stuff about other videogames said the KH staff was going to release the game in 2018 even if it wasn't "finished" (as in not including everything they'd intend to for the complete version of the game they had in mind)
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>>183058259
KHII has ten Disney worlds if you don't count Hundred Acre Wood and count Disney Castle + Timeless River as one world. I'd say conservatively KHIII has anywhere from 7-10 Disney worlds.

As for original worlds, I don't think anybody doubts there's gonna be a shitton of them since this is wrapping up the Xehanort saga, we're just trying to gauge the likelihood of our favored worlds making it in given what's been revealed and how many slots are left.
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>>183059902
it's still a full game and FFVII is huge dialogue-wise

more dialogue than most series in fact
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>>183059913
>a guy on twitter that was known for predicting stuff about other videogames
https://twitter.com/Jose_Strife/status/742753903083683841
I can't believe you are this fucking gullible
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>this is canon to Toy Story
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>>183059978
Not even close to being true.
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>>183059994
what does this have to do with it you mong
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>>183060230
>what does the source of the kh3 rumor have to do with it
>pls ignore that the guy saying this rumor is an attention whore who doesn't actually know anything
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>>183059978
Doubt they would include every single word from the OG, plus FF7 remake scenes are being based off something that they can look at where as for kh3 alot is new and the artstyle is harder to create (also osaka teams first big HD game)
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>>183060190
With the introduction of voice acting most modern video games don't even break the 100k mark for words in their script

FFVII has a whopping 600k alone

>>183060318
On the contrary, I think they will be adding more to the script to flesh out characters and events as they have said.
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https://youtu.be/UhcqCIWc2wY
https://youtu.be/3PEHvEoRURA
https://youtu.be/4zzYICLVTYo
https://youtu.be/Q2gC0UzCffw
https://youtu.be/VUZteAoN3ew
https://youtu.be/o_Nc7pQ8PcI

Just a reminder that all signs point towards 3 being a garbage game with no proper balancing, good combos, enjoyable bosses, or depth of any real kind.
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>>183059725
>(In response to the question of around when in 2018 Kingdom Hearts III will be released) “Please wait for the proper followup report. (Smiles.)”
>Smiles
Looks like they have a specific date in mind so it will be this time next year at the latest
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>>183060795
>I can't make up my own opinion so here's what people told me to think
I see /v/ermin are leaking out of their containment board again.
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>>183060795
>I watch soraalam and one of the bizkits, pls notice me /khg/
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>>183060525
FF7 doesn't even beat Namco X Capcom in dialogue text. You literally know nothing. FF5 has more dialogue text than FF7.
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How is Nomura gonna get around using copyrighted characters like Mr. Potato Head? I mean he is one of the major characters of the TS franchise.
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>>183061053
It'd be hilarious if Disney bought the rights to it like they did for Oswald
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>>183061047
Then post the numbers and some sources friend
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>>183060941
>>183061015
>truth makes them mad
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>>183061089

Well they are highly likely to end up buying Hasbro in the future

>YFW world based on a certain girls franchise loved by middle-aged men gets a world in KH4.
I'm talking about Jem and The Holograms of course.
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>>183061153
Are there even websites that list the amount of dialogue words in an rpg? That seems like the most useless trivia there could be.
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>>183061234
The truth is half the shit you posted is based on assumptions, the other half is about problems exclusive to the handheld titles and 0.2 has proven KH3 will not have.

>>183061271
I found this

http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_longest_video_game_scripts

according to it FFV is only 33k words

You can also just google the games script and count yourself :^)
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>>183061153
http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_longest_video_game_scripts

Lots of games beat FF7 in dialogue.
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>>183060795
Bloody bizkitz is a guy who cant get over "MUH KH2FM GAMEPLAY" cause hes played the game 50 fucking million times, Soraalam isnt as bad but hes still on a similar level so theyre opinions aren't the best.

Now don't get me wrong the handhelds are fucking shit, because they are on handhelds so its not like Osaka was going to make a masterpiece on shit hardware.

Osaka then moving on to good hardware, are now used to making shit combos so there will be an effect BUT Tokyo team (behind KH1 and KH2) have worked on KH3 a little bit so it WILL be be better than KH3.

However alot of situation commands is a little concerning, and I do think there will be a fuckload of one too many gameplay options but I guess we will have to wait and see
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>>183061437
But most games do not. I am not saying it is THE largest script in video games, just that it beats out the majority ad thatsite that we both found verifies that it is among the top and loses only to a few other RPGs and Visual Novels.

To put it into perspective, FFVII's script is larger than the entire XIII trilogy script.
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>>183061553
>But most games do not
No kidding. Some games don't have any dialogue at all.
That doesn't change the fact that FF7 isn't high up in the list of longest video game scripts.

>>183061429
>>183061437
I was looking over that list and it omits a lot of games with really long scripts. Like Namco X Capcom and Sailor Moon Another Story.
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>>183061748
My statement was that it beats most video game series in script length. You said it false. Now you are saying "maybe it does but that doesn't mean it's the biggest!" something which I never even implied.
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>>183061802
My point is its fairly average for an rpg of that time.
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>>183061890
If you ignore the visual novels on the list then there are only 8 titles there that have a larger script than FFVII

unless there were only 10 games in that time then it is most certainly in the minority, thus obviously beating the majority.

FFIX was also of that time and it's only at 170k, FFVIII 150k

FFVII script is larger than both the other PS1 FFs combined
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I'm ok with less worlds, honestly I expected something like this. I just hope they don't repeat worlds, I don't want anymore Agrabah/Atlantica/Pride Lands, Olympus Coliseum for the 4th time was a mistake.
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>>183061234
You didn't post any truth, you just shitposted like the typical underage /v/ermin that you are. Now fuck off back to /r/eddit
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>>183062121
You can't trust that list cause it doesn't list every game.
Its missing a lot of games that would beat FF7.
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What if Nomura means there is less Disney worlds because there is more Pixar worlds?
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>>183062175
Even if there were another 50 games that beat it, it would still have more words in its script than most other games! That is my point!
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>>183062212
Pixar is Disney
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>>183062143
Finally someone who gets it. Though since we're going up Mount Olympus this time I'm okay with it. Plus, where else would we have the cups hosted if not Olympus?
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>>183062143
Well, we're definitely getting the Colosseum (or a new named equivelint) seeing as how Olympus exists.
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>>183062212
nah i think he meant more dreamworks worlds
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>>183062212
more OC worlds
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>>183062327
about time
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>>183062342
This. Especially since its the end of the Xehanort saga, I assume there will be more original worlds.

>>183062246
Nigger when you're saying "most games" that shit better be 90%+.
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>>183062327
Fuck yeah dude I can't wait to have RJ and Hammy in my party
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>>183062446
I'm pretty certain that 51 games would be less than 1% the total amount of video games in existence
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>>183062309
>where else would we have the cups hosted if not Olympus?

literally anywhere? ffs they just need to come up with another mirage arena kind of world
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>>183060095
>Kingdom Hearts is canon to Toy Story
>Toy Story 1 had a quick part where Hakuna Matata could be heard playing on a radio
>the Disney Animated Canon itself exists within the Kingdom Hearts universe as a work of fiction
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>>183062516
I'm also pretty certain there are enough games that beat FF7 to push it out of the top 10%. Which is where I would call it the "most".
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>>183062739
There are thousands upon thousands of video games, potentially millions and you're saying 10% of THAT has such large scripts? I sincerely doubt that.
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>>183062607

Don't forget a fuckload of other shit.
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>>183062847
FF7 isn't that large. That's my point.
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>>183059725
>The Toy Story world is set after Toy Story 2. It isn’t a parallel world. Rather, the events of Kindgom Hearts III are part of the Toy Story time axis. (In other words, it is canon.
Now all I need is for KH to show up in an actual Disney film, and that will be the final proof that we're living in the dankest timeline.
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>>183062942
Heck, looking at the site again I noticed FFVIIs script is bigger than the entire KH series script
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>>183062143
I hope Agrabah is back so we can do the third movie (we did the first and second ones already). I like Olympus. I don't want to see those other two either.
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>less worlds
>all of them pointlessly huge with giant fucking rooms that you need to spend a thousand hours to traverse across

yeah, fucking awesome, lets sacrifice the world count so that the game plays more like DDD

KH2 was a good game because the rooms were a mix of big and small, this just looks like a mess
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>>183063058

Well we could eventually get a Kingdom Hearts Cinematic Universe with all the live-action adaptations.
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>>183063182
I don't trust that site at all.
It lists no sources on the word count of the games it lists.
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it sucks but this game seems to be going the ffxv route
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>>183063364

Didn't Nomura say more worlds than other games?
>>
Looks like we're getting an influx of /v/ermin
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>>183063373
That's unfortunately the only site I could find that was autistic enough to actually count script lengths
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>>183063516
Same, but if I learned anything on this damn website its to not trust anything with no source.
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>>183063468
He later explained that he meant that they had more worlds conceptualized, i.e how the Toy Story world was conceptualized back during Kingdom Hearts II.

Effectively he was just building baseless hype.
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I see the world roster being mostly recent films and Pixar, with some of the few remaining profilic 2D films like Jungle Book and Princess and The Frog, as well as some older worlds with material left in them.
>>
>>183063481
Unfortunately. Just ignore them, they're mums will soon be by to tell them to go to bed.
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>>183063712
>Princess and The Frog
lol not happening
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>>183063737
>tell them to go to bed
>at 10am
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>>183063364
KH2s worlds were awful
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I hope in Toy Story 4 there's a scene where Woody and Buzz reminisce about the time when they helped Sora, Donald and Goofy defeat Xehanort of Organization 13 and the Heartless
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>>183064039
Your mom is awful.
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>>183064076
nope
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>>183064053
Well I hope you're being sarcastic because that's autistic as fuck. Best we can hope for is some minor background reference like a poster or something.
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>>183063468
>>183063692
The exact quote's already in the thread and he didn't say that
>TN: With every Kingdom Hearts title, we plan to deliver more worlds than actually appear in game -- so we have something in our pockets to work with. Then as we begin to hone these worlds and stages, and some do get cut. [At this point], we have prepared more worlds, in that respect, than Kingdom Hearts 2.
He just said they planned more worlds but the actual worlds that make the cut will decrease as they flesh them out
>>
so they had more worlds in mind for kh3 than they had for kh2, but in the end there's gonna be fewer worlds in kh3 than there actually were in kh2

big fuckup, yup, definitely not rushing things
>>
>>183064039
Fuck no, they have the best fight layouts out of any game. If KH2 worlds suck then every game's worlds suck.
>>
Man, the /v/ermin really are going all out
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>>183064332
>rushing things

That's just HD development. They shoot for less worlds but all of the worlds are FUCKING XBOX HUGE just so that mouthbreathers can look over the horizon and choke back tears instead of actually play the game
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>>183063889

>Tiana's an official Disney Princess.
>Dr. Facilier is one of Disney's more popular villains.
>PATF was the last 2D feature.

The movie is as likely to get into KH3 as much as an Inkling getting into Smash Brothers 5.
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>>183064413
They're just blocks with some textures slapped on the only halfway decent area in 2 is Cavern of Remembrance because there's actual platforming.
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>>183064053
What if they make it "canon" by making it be the toy version of Sora who they met and he just believed he was the real thing like Buzz

so the toy Sora they revealed after the trailer is canon in Toy Story but not the actual Sora
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>>183064332
not being able to put in everything you planned is entirely normal for video game development.
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>>183064332
when he said they had more worlds "planned" they could of starting developing further into them and realised they wouldn't of worked
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>>183064532
nah, only "muh diversity" tumblrites want that world
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>>183064583
>people still care about platforming in KH
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>>183064332
Did you know KH2 actually had TWENTY worlds planned? Yes, Kingdom Hearts II is now forever ruined in your mind because it is a incomplete game!
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>>183064532
Wasn't the 2011 Pooh movie the last 2D feature film?
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>>183064332
WHAAAAT!? You're telling me there's going to be a cut world in a Kingdom Hearts game? Nooooooooooooo!
Seriously, fuck off back to your containment board >>>/v/
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>>183064976
Considering it can be done right? Yeah
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>>183064583
>they're just blocks with some textures slapped on

what's wrong with this, though? KH2 is an action game, all of Sora's moveset is built for combat. If the game is a series of fight rooms then it's a focused game, I never felt the need to have the worlds be fucking enormous because the thing that I'm most interested in doing (fighting) is never very far away.
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>>183064695
>>183064771
He shouldn't have said anything then. Hell, he even acknowledges in the quote itself that cutbacks happen, and knows how autistic the fanbase is, there's no reason he should've gotten people's hopes up like that.

If I had to guess, I'd say he deliberately dropped that as a passive-aggressive way of demanding more dev time. "Oh, you wanna rush the game out already? Well, a lot of fans are gonna be disappointed because of that interview..."
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>I dont like what this guy is posting, why is he not sucking nomura's dick? better call him /v/ermin!
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>>183065214
Kingdom Hearts combat isn't good enough to carry the game so it gets boring when you're just going from room to room
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>BH6 was the last world decided to be in the game
So thats why we haven't seen footage

http://blog.hokanko-alt.com/archives/51718090.html
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>>183065086
Except your saying the platforming in CoR was the only good part about KH2 which shows you are a fucking idiot.
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>>183065348
Wow anon nice sidestep
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>>183065310
>Kingdom Hearts combat isn't good enough to carry the game
Are you fucking high?
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>>183065332
this needs to be translated ASAP as this one say something along the lines of "less worlds than KH2" (no mention of disney) and "the game story is dark"
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>>183065332
>BH6 was the last world decided to be in the game
fuck
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>>183065267
While I respect your opinion, I heavily disagree and feel that if you are a KH fan that dislikes the combat you are on the highest plane of suffering
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>>183065805
meant to respond to >>183065310
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>>183065332
>One of the first worlds publicly announced is the one with the least amount of information that can be given
nomura pls
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>>183065761
If that's the case
>moana
>zootopia
>inside out
>the good dinosaur
>coco
are all out
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>>183065968
they said Disney gives them private screenings to future movies though.
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>>183065968
I don't why people thought we were getting any of these, they would of chosen all of the worlds by the end of 2014 at the latest
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>>183066138
2015*
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>>183065473
No, I'm right, and if you knew anything about game play you would know what you're talking about or even have any good talking points to begin with. The mechanics aren't deep enough to be interesting outside of boss fights and even then it's on the low end, revenge values shouldn't be what carries a game it should be something that's just there. Compare literally any boss in 2 to any game that actually can be carried on combat alone and you'd know what I'm talking about. Anyone, lets looks at one on the low end even, even the worse boss in Metal Gear Rising is better than most of KH2s bosses, it's almost just abusing revenge values in KH2, that's not impressive in the grand scheme that's boring, in Rising you're not just doing that you're relying on a shitload of other mechanics too. Kingdom Hearts isn't carried solely by the combat, in reality it's far too shallow to do that, no brainer. Series is carried far more by its music and nostalgia.
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>>183066348
>Metal gear rising
>February 19, 2013

>KH2
>December 22, 2005

There seems to be a large flaw in your comparison. Come back with a more comparable game, and then we can talk seriosuly.
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>>183065968
good, all of these were mediocre
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>>183067256
Not him, but
>Devil May Cry 3, February 17 2005
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New thread: >>183067821
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>>183067276
>zootopia
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We should get a playable mickey
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>>183063391
Elaborate, because I don't see what you're talking about at all.
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>>183064784
Or people who want more good villains in KH3.
Dr. Facilier is one of the best Disney villains in the past 35 years
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>>183067856
Yes, even your furry movie was mediocre
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>>183069209
You could in KH2
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>>183057205
No Kairi tutorial, pals. Not that I ever believed that there would be one
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