/xcg/ - XCOM General

pistols are useful

1st for burning vipers alive

So, who's going to try and get Mox and Dragunova to form a bond?

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>>182554927
Nice try faggot :^)

>>182554996

K

E

K

I've never used flashbangs in any of my playthroughs

does this make me elite

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>>182554802
Would you ever fugg an ayy lmao?

Also:
>182554996

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Antique gun ports when

>>182555281
Advent is the Enemy and Enemy is FOOD

>>182555056
I'll still burn you alive in a pile of tires. All collaborators must fucking hang.

>>182554802
So what tis shit like shadow of mordor now

>> Well the Alien Hunters are apparently noncanon anyways. According to Jake Himself.

Also... Was XCOM 1 an alternate reality where they won? Which is Canon?

>>182555056

remove snek fuckers

Never used 1 grenade in my commander play through respect me faggots

Anyone else love the new music so far in WOTC? I especially love what seems to be the Chosen's theme, given it suddenly takes over the normal combat music for the mission in Lost & Abandoned. It feels sinister and powerful, unlike the main game's OST which is half generic heroic music and half wubwubwubwubwubKssssHHHHwubwububwub

>>182555435
Shadow of Mordor was a great game.

>>182555454
Everything is canon in the multiverse. I just want Vahlen back gdi.

>>182555454
Well the Alien Hunters are apparently noncanon anyways. According to Jake Himself.

>>182555528

I bet you used bombs to avoid the technicality didn't you faggot

>>182555454
Both, alternate universes apparently.

Although all this is based one a single tweet where somebody said he was told that the Volunteer in XCOM 1 is still alive.

Got a sauce on Big J saying Alien Hunters is non-canon? Seems unlikely to me as it confirms things about Vahlen, just like SLG does for Shen.

>>182555454
>XCOM 1
XCOM:EU was just a simulation, pay attention to what flashes on the screen during the scene where Tygan explains what the Aliens were doing with the commander for 20 years.

>>182555560
>>182554996 →
fuck I fucked that up. I was trying to do this

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>>182555653
Don't you start this again

>>182555534
no i mean with te traits n shit

>>182555714
Something literally in the game vs. Age-old tweet from before the game was even released. Pretty sure I'm right.

>>182555726
Jake confirmed that was the inspiration, and it's a welcome one. Chosen would be jokes without the element of chaos in their progression.

>>182555793
Pretty sure you're an idiot

Rich Evans voicepack when?

>>182555793
I don't necessarily disagree anon, and I don't think that XCOM 3 is going to be a follow up to 1 (since they're using 2 to set up a new enemy etc), but people get real touchy about thinking that their victories in XCOM:EU are non-canon simulations that helped the Ethereals kick the resistance's ass.

>>182555793
It's not from a tweet, it's from an interview concerning X2 with Jake.
I'll lay it out one more time in case you honestly haven't seen this before.

XCOM 1 is canon
But in XCOM 2, XCOM 1 isn't canon and is mostly a simulation.
Because they are alternate universes
But both are canon in their own universe.

>Solomon: Yeah, I view it as – you can already hear the designer bullshit coming out in my voice, but – this is the way I view it, and I think it’s fair, when we were talking about this idea we were like,"You know, the setting for XCOM 2 is actually going to be if XCOM lost the first game." And I think a lot of people had this reaction of, "Wait a minute, I just invested all this time and I beat XCOM." To me it feels like every time you start a new game of XCOM, you’re kind of spinning off an alternate universe – and so, in the worlds where you beat XCOM, there just never was an XCOM 2, you know? This is just in case somebody actually lost a game of XCOM, which has happened, and this is a chance to go to that world and try it out.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/interview-the-death-of-interceptors-iron-man-mode-and-xcom-2s-next-step

>>182555906
Nice job not offering any retort to explain why I'm wrong, despite EU literally being in the game. :y

>>182555632
Jake has also said all your victories still count, they just wanted to explore a new angle of xcom.

IGN saying ironmeme impossible is canon is not evidence of the contrary.

>>182555952
He laughs everytime he gets a critical hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTEdf5VS3EA

>>182555543
>Supposedly significant bug fixes and performance fixes
What are the chances they release a non-buggy product at launch considering their previous track record?

>>182556032
They took trailer clips and put them in a five second clip. Never mentioned again.

It's completely meaningless.

>>182556049
Yeah, but chronologically and going forward, XCOM:EU is non-canon, its victory is only canon for that game itself, as the XCOM game timeline advances, that victory is non-canon, because XCOM 2 is pushing the story forward.

Jake's comments were basically (very expertly) set up to stop people raging about the fact that XCOM 2 assumes that XCOM lost the war.

>>182556136
50% to hit. I'm more concerned if they can Fix LOS bugs (See through walls, broken cover.)
Minor stuff can easily be patched.

>>182556175
Certainly possible. We might see a sequel to EU/EW yet.

>>182556136

35%

hopefully they've had enough time with the engine now that it sin't a complete shitshow

I wish we get to see what a botched cover mission looks like, Jake said it's just gonna be 2 soldiers sneaking past lost and ADVENT with just pistols.

>>182556310
Well the dlc was pretty bug free right?

>>182556354
Patience anon

>>182556167
>Enemy Within
>Suddenly you have Gene-Modified soldiers and MECs
>Fighting against a bunch of humans who do covert ops against you and field basically the same tactics as XCOM

It's a retcon, doesn't change it's what's implied by the game, especially with the Ethereal mocking you by saying "defeat them as you did before" in the final mission.

>>182556002
>Solomon: Yeah, I view it as – you can already hear the designer bullshit coming out in my voice, but – this is the way I view it, and I think it’s fair, when we were talking about this idea we were like,"You know, the setting for XCOM 2 is actually going to be if XCOM lost the first game." And I think a lot of people had this reaction of, "Wait a minute, I just invested all this time and I beat XCOM." To me it feels like every time you start a new game of XCOM, you’re kind of spinning off an alternate universe – and so, in the worlds where you beat XCOM, there just never was an XCOM 2, you know? This is just in case somebody actually lost a game of XCOM, which has happened, and this is a chance to go to that world and try it out.
Seems like a bandaid to stop people from being upset.

>>182556440
>What the devs said doesn't mean what they said
Don't be a faggot anon. What the devs say is canon, is canon.

>>182556305
Not likely, they're definitely pushing the "Incoming 2nd enemy that terrifies the Elders" angle even harder with WotC (Watch the cutscene with the Chosen getting their orders in ChristopherOdd's video) and have a more interesting set up going forward in 2, especially now that we have hybrids fighting with humanity etc, which is starting mirror the story progression of the original x-com games, with the hybrids in Apoc etc.

>>182556428
It's hard to be patient when they're drip feeding all these great vids.

Am I the only one who wants to not kill any of the chosen so in the Water World level you not only fight 3 avatars but also the 3 (Max level) Chosen.

>>182556558
>Am I the only one who wants to not kill any of the chosen so in the Water World level you not only fight 3 avatars but also the 3 (Max level) Chosen.
No that could be pretty fun. The last level is already insanity.

>>182556428

I think it was? I don't remember

I guess I figure there's a much higher chance of bugs given the overhaul nature of this expansion

>>182556354

iktf bro

>>182556539
This. They're not going to drop the XCOM2 universe, especially as they have no reason to - they even have a terror from the deep tease (which is followed up in the cutscene you mentioned, we see a dark psionic power coursing through the earth's crust).

>>182555653
Except Jake and the team literally said that xcom 1 was not a simulation.

>>182555632
It was on a stream some time ago. I think someone brought up that Xcom was killed off early so why did the downed Skyranger in Alien Hunters have laser weapons.

Jake was pretty much like "lol Alien Hunters is not canon"

>>182556440
It's not worth arguing over, we'll just have to agree to disagree

>>182556695
The metric is simple:
>EU/EQ: No sequel tease.
>XCOM2: Two sequel teases, with the WOTC chosen cutscene..

XCOM2 is the main universe from here on out, boys.

>>182556679
Watching the lost and abandoned vid already got me pumped for the lost (small areas with huge swarms holy) so after seeing what the lost can do, i can already see covert missions will be 20 times the insanity, would also be fucked up if the Chosen can spawn during the botched Covert mission.

>>182556440
>defeat them as you did before
That was 100% Asaru the ethereal talking

>>182556739
No fuck that faggot.
>Here's proof that shows what you are saying is false
>hurr I don't feel like it's real evidence because of my own personal interpretation

>>182556093
Perfect voice for an assault specced for crits.

>>182556934
>would also be fucked up if the Chosen can spawn during the botched Covert mission.
rip operatives

>>182556895
What if in XCOM 3, the greater threat is multiversal and threatening both universes?

>>182556895
>>EU/EQ: No sequel tease.
Part of that was definitely lack of certainty of a sequel period.

I mean we don't want a HL2EP2 or beyond good and evil type situation here.

>>182556737
Aren't all the weapons you loot from the downed skyranger alien though? I got the impression they were supposed to be the 'native' equipment of the Vipers, hence why the young ones use boltcasters etc.

I suspect specific details of AH might be non-canon, but given it concerns Vahlen, I'm guessing the "She got up to dumb mad science" is canon.

>>182556965
>Asaru
Does Asaru have the greebly XCOM;EU voice in the Bureau? I never actually played it because I hate the concept of a shooter XCOM game and the entire metafiction angle seems pretentious, but I'm just asking since that mysterious voice sounded a lot like the Uber Ethereal from EU, I would expect with Asaru's graceful design he'd have less of an ugly voice, but once again I haven't played the game so please inform me!

>>182557042
XCOM 3: Apocalypse from the Deep when?

>>182557238
Haven't played Bureau in years but iirc Asaru has a smoother voice compared to the other Ethereal, he is also much younger (thousands of years younger) and in the end of the game his essence just vanishes from the host you pick.

>>182557478
I personally see the Bureau as "broad strokes" canon, I believe that the commander is an Ethereal but I doubt that it's specifically a male one, since they outright cut lines from the Commander in XCOM2 so that the player, no matter their gender, could project onto them. Alternatively maybe unlike in the Bureau, the Commander and Asaru are actively communicating with each other from beyond the scenes instead of Asaru mostly controlling them.

>>182557158
Well not according to Jake Soloman. He would have answered it like that then.

>>182557238
Bureau is awful, but it does explain alot about the xcom universe. Asaru actually literally is the manifestation of the player. You start playing one character the entire game then when asaru leaves that one character and manifests another character and... whelp you play as that character he manifests. It is pretty on the nose. The commander is literally bonded with Asaru and that is why he is tactically capable of leading such a group.

I mean... the Elders are basically screaming at the Commander to join them and the death of them means that they are the death of everyone. The Elders know he is an Ethereal.

>>182557674
Well, we don't actually know if psychic space ghosts (which the Ethereals in The Bureau, which seem to be some kind of ascended form of them since Asaru had no physical form but that which he inhabited) actually have a gender/sex, so Asaru could still be a self-insert.

Whether the Commandy-One is host to an Ethereal is up for debate, but I'm also pretty convinced that they are too.

>>182557948
>Well, we don't actually know if psychic space ghosts (which the Ethereals in The Bureau, which seem to be some kind of ascended form of them since Asaru had no physical form but that which he inhabited) actually have a gender/sex
This is true, especially since Angelis seems to have both a female and a male voice. Odds are weird psychic space gods are just odd in general.

>>182558079
Don't forget that the Avatars seem to be designed to be androgynous. It's very unlikely the Elders fit into puny human gender dynamics, especially with their body-hopping tendencies.

>>182558320
>Avatars seem to be designed to be androgynous
Are they though? I haven't seen any evidence of this, and ADVENT hybrids have genders.

>>182558462
They're pretty thin, but don't have breasts or thighs. I think they're smaller than male soldiers.

>>182557948
Space ghosts/ethereals are basically the evolution of Elders that you fight in Xcom. They can live without form and I suspect that they are the elder's masters that they keep going on about. Except they cannot do what ethereals do to live forever so they basically are invading planet to planet to find a host to replace their dying one.

>>182558558
>They're pretty thin, but don't have breasts or thighs. I think they're smaller than male soldiers.
This. They don't share a body model with male or female humans or ADVENT troopers. They look very much like they're designed to be genderless, which would make sense from a practical perspective, as they serve no function other than being fresh hosts for the Elders.

>>182558619
Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me of the Ethereals that are leading the invasion in XCOM2 aren't actually dying - they're evolving to a bodiless, non-corporeal state that some members of their species have already achieved, but for some reason are desperately trying to retain their physical forms for whatever reason.

>>182558813
Yeah, especially since the Ethereals have made it pretty clear they don't NEED dual sexes on their forces, only using it when it offers drastically varying abilities (Male Mutons being smaller while females being fuckhueg), as evidenced by how they continue to produce vipers despite having eliminated their males.

Odds are there's only gender variance in ADVENT troops to keep up the ruse they're normal people to the public.

>>182558945
>they're evolving to a bodiless, non-corporeal state that some members of their species have already achieved, but for some reason are desperately trying to retain their physical forms for whatever reason.
Nah, they specifically state that they failed to ascend unlike the other ethereals. That's why the are desperate.

>>182559043
>Nah, they specifically state that they failed to ascend unlike the other ethereals. That's why the are desperate.

That explains a whole lot. Where was this explained?

>>182558945
They confirm that they have space AIDs at one point in the final mission, I'm pretty sure, and that they need the fresh hosts of the Avatars to survive.

Also, doesn't it get confirmed in The Bureau around the time of the Asaru reveal that when he bonded with Carter it was to save both their lives? Asaru needed a host and bonding with Carter saved him from death.

Suggests to me that Ethereals need a host or to be contained/manifested in some way to survive long-term. (The one who was powering Mosaic or whatever it was called was contained/manifested in machinery designed to contain it)

Xcom 1 was the original war that started the events of 2 in 2 we know the humans lost in the war against the aliens / xcom failed , it's also implied why would the aliens give a fuck about the commander if X1 was just a simulation since all the commander would be to them is another human and not the person who almost kicked their ass , further more why even keep the commander since his tactics clearly failed in the first one.

>>182559043
>>182558619
You telling me that the entire story of xcom is basically one alien race fighting eachother by using other races like chess pieces?

>>182559130
The uber ethereal on the temple ship

>>182559242
Probably not. Whatever the Ethereals are afraid of, it's fucking HUGE. The new cutscene in WOTC shows the psionic energy it emanates or (IS) is large enough to course through the earth's fucking crust, practically dying the entire thing purple.

>>182559130
Here, found the direct quote:
>Behold the greatest failure… of the Ethereal Ones… We who failed to ascend as they thought we would.
We who were cast out. We who were doomed to feed on the Gift of lesser beings… as we sought to uplift them… to prepare them… for what lies ahead.

>>182559242
Basically, yes, you've got the Ethereals, who are themselves divided, and something that terrifies the shit out of the Ethereals, and humanity has gotten caught in the middle.

Ethereal M.O. is to take over and control other races to diversify their forces against the things that threaten them, whilst searching for a race with the potential to serve as new physical hosts for them.

>>182559343
I thought that was them accidently poisoning earth's ocean thus setting up enemy from the deep.

>>182558813

They do though. Go load up the XCOM dev tools. Avatars have about the same gender differences ADVENT soldiers do. They look most similar to landers.

>>182559501
I thought this was the case. Can you post the different models?

>>182559441
*Who are themselves divided between the ascended and those who failed to

>>182559458
ChristopherOdd's video has a cutscene in War of the Chosen where an Ethereal gives the Chosen their orders, that clip is shown again in the same breath as the Ethereal talks about their great enemy.

>>182559441
I really hope they go in this direction, Earth just being a strategic position caught in the middle of a war way bigger / older / weirder than we can get is dope and barely gets used (I mean, where else do we have it, I can only think of the Kree-Skrull War from the top of my head)

Guys, what if the reason that the Warlock goes insane and starts thinking of himself as a god higher than the Elders and the only one who knows the true power of psionics despite boasting how loyal he is in his trailer is because he's being corrupted by whatever psionic force the Ethereals are afraid of.

>>182559501
Oh, weird! I've been given false info, then. Despite this, I think it's pretty sound to think that the Ethereals don't follow exact human gender dynamics, given they're a race that makes a habit of body-hopping and going by their concept art from EU don't even have any ORIFICES, let alone genitals.

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Joey mod when?

Shit guys, the price of WOTC is rather steeping.

>>182559843
If you don't want to go grey-market, get it from GreenManGaming, there is a code in the previous thread which nets you even more money off.

Takes the sting out of the price a bit.

>>182559812
I mostly agree, but they do make a point of having male and female voices for the ethereals for some reason. Surely they had gender at one point of time, perhaps before they started stuff like cloning themselves to cheat death, combined with their over-dependence on psionic energy, eventually leading to bodies that were mere husks. I don't know if they actually cloned themselves, that's just a guess.

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>>182559551

Alright, since I figure you don't want to download 45gb of content.

Gender differences in ADVENT are so subtle I didn't even realize they had different genders until 100 hours in.

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>>182560106
That avatar is thicc

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>>182560106
Thanks anon
Could you do me one more favor and post the stuff that proves they don't have faces?

>>182559812
The way I see it, the alien army's makeup when it comes to gender and sex is basically:

Sectoids - Clone species, either genderless or only one gender.

Mutons, and by extension Floaters/Archons - Male and female, females are more aggressive and large, possibly augmented by Ethereal race-engineering.

Chryssalids - Presumably have a model close to real life eusocial animals, with female drones and a queen. Due to how they parasitize other species with eggs, it's doubtful they have male specimens, though perhaps in their original, low-tier insect forms they had male drones like real ants.

Vipers/Thin Men - All female, used to have males, but explosive breeding and male viper dominance made it unappealign for the Elders, who neutralized the male Viper.

Cyberdiscs - As silicon-based life, it's hard to tell.

Gatekeepers - Presumably genderless, as they are just big ol genetically engineered fuck balls.

Outsiders - Presumably genderless constructs.

Codices - Female for whatever reason. Maybe it has to do with the Ethereal leader in XCOM2 presenting as female?

Faceless - Genderless blob things, probably.

Ethereals - May have had gender in the past, but their decayed bodies clearly have non nowadays.

>>182560106
I wish they used the female archon model more as well

>>182560346
Codex Brain appears to be based off of a human one, so that might have something to do with their 'physical' appearance.

Also Advent - Have both genders, likely so as to not cause the human populace to wonder why a "volunteer" defence force that "recruits" both genders is mono-gendered.

>>182560106
Wait, what?

>>182560346
>Sectoids
They didn't have gender in x-com (ufo defense), so that confirms it for me.

This gender question is useless, the real question in XCOM is why did they call the shinobi a shinobi? Why not "scout"?

>>182560851
weebaboos

>>182560851
So you could shitpost about it constantly.

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>>182560851
I dunno but the stupid class names alone made me want to not play LongDong2. Fuck Anime and fuck any manchild who consumes it.

>>182555089
>>182555281
>Enabling a DLC that caused a metric ton of negative reviews on steam storepage that Fraxis had to tone down for the expansion.
Yez of corse.

What if in XCOM 3, with the Ethereal leadership destroyed, but other planets clearly still being occupied and used for race-production via void gates, the various aliens the Ethereals have enslaved over the years become independent factions, shards of the empire following the leadership's destruction.

It'd make sense for some of them too, like the Mutons being described as tribal in EU anf the Ethereals calling the sectoids intelligent, but cruel. I bet those little bastards would love a chance to take over after their bosses went to the shitter.

Space Aids?

Space ghosts?

Commander is an Ayy?

Was I not paying attention in X2?

Someoen please help

>>182561954
>Someoen please help
You mean like the entirety of this thread? Just go read everything just posted, all the lore is discussed accurately to what is in the games.

>Was I not paying attention in X2?
Yes

>>182561568
>that caused a metric ton of negative reviews on steam storepage

Yeah, from shitters who probably couldn't even complete the game on Veteran. The rules aren't hard.

>>182561636
>I bet those little bastards would love a chance to take over after their bosses went to the shitter.
Nah, see, Sectoids are like Space Pirates from metroid. They're piece of shit little mooks who will go and serve the next alien big bad no matter who it is. In XCOM 3 they'll immediately start working for the dark force the Ethereals are afraid of. I can see it now.

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>tfw my self insert is a panicky little bitch

>tfw the qt punk girl got critted despite being 3 stories high on an overpass and 1 shotted

fug

>>182562309
>The price of self-inserting

>>182562309
>self-insert
>not male

pls

>>182560997
Man you're a fucking idiot

one silly class name and you write off the best mod on the workshop

Bravo

>>182562140
393/528 split if you feel that way go add your own even things up a bit commander.

>>182560851
Because they use swords

So how many races have the elders subjugated?

>sectoids
>mutons/Berserkers
>vipers
>humans(advent)
>chryssalids
>faceless
>andromedons
>gatekeepers
>chosen

Then you have mechanicals which were just created(codex, spectre, MECS, sectopods).

>>182563175
That seems about right, though there's a fair chance the Chosen are an entirely new genetic creation.

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how do you feel about XCOM becoming anime?

>>182562309
Unless it's a recent LW2 change, height advantage does not affect your defense. If you're on a roof in half-cover, you're just in half-cover. The only difference the height makes is additional accuracy for you shooting at lower enemies.

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>>182563372

>>182563372
>becoming anime
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX0Cm3N_n6k

Anon pls

I wish the XCOM wiki had like, story stuff in them

I demand pictures of mox

>>182563982
Right? It's an easily underrated aspect of the games, and the best part is that ti doesn't cut in on the gameplay at all. A good example of integrating a plotline into a game otherwise played for the gameplay.

>>182563175

>andromedons

Who are these guys anyway? At first I thought that they were some sectoid variant. Why'd you need an entire new species to pilot robo suits, when you can field actual robots?

>>182563434
>>182563536
>muh oldcom intro
weak argument as games never had that kind of feel until X2, avatar troll dolls and it's outro fight. Even EU2012 was GI Joe + aliens and I never got any anime vibe from it.

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Is there a mod that adds more nicknames? I'm not creative enough to think of my own.

>>182564426
>I'll just add "muh" to your arguments. This will be a good refutation!
Your own post contradicts itself as well.

>>182564396
Pretty much only exist to imply the Ethereal Empire is far larger than we thought, via the name . This by extension makes the fact that the Ethereals are terrified of some other force a far more pressing concern.

>>182564504
Yes

>>182564426
GI Joe is a line of goofy, over-the-top action figures and was popularized by a goofy, over-the-top 80s cartoon. Even EU2012 had cartoony armor and weapons, especially in the later tiers.

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>>182564989
Armor and weapon design were already cartoony enough until EXALT came along to bring some edge

>>182564752
>Cross-Galaxy empire defeated by some apes with material scraps and a stolen vehicle
Somehow deeply amusing to me.

>>182564989
yes and?

I was just curious how people feel about XCOM becoming anime.

>>182565302
It's okay. I come to XCOM for the gameplay, and the story isn't egregiously anime. Plus, any excuse for Worf is an awesome excuse.

>>182565302
But it's not becoming anime, it has always been inspired by it, your question is stupid but you, being another contrarian faggot probably hot from /v/, can't accept you're wrong. And I fucking hate animes before you call me a weeb or some shit.

has anyone bought the expansion from gmg already? it keeps declining my shit and not letting paypal complete either, the hell is up with that?

>>182565302
It's fine because it's always been slightly anime.

>>182563175
I'm pretty sure chryssalids, faceless, gatekeepers, and chosen were genetically created by elders not subjugated.

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>>182565413
>But it's not becoming anime, it has always been inspired by it
only anime thing about XCOM was oldcom intro and guile hair, the game itself was a alien invasion scenario and it was pretty dark, even more so for TFTD

real anime shit started with X2 and it's going into overdrive in WotC, was just curious how people feel about it because I my feelings are mixed.

> being another contrarian faggot probably hot from /v/, can't accept you're wrong.
I don't have to go to /v/ for a daily dose of retardation with people like you in /vg/

>>182565302
I mean though it doesn't even look like an anime. The closest thing it got to an anime was saiyan hair on the avatar.
>>182565167
meh this is why i always install the hk417 mod

>>182564373

Story isn't "underrated." It simply isn't good. It's campy and inconsistent. Talking about nu-com.

The story is most well told through environmental/map/enemy design. Actual writing bits (dialogue and text which is the stuff you'd read on a wiki) are hilariously bad and make the characters look retarded.

Jake and Garth playing the Lost mission on firaxis' twitch

>>182566425
>teleports behind you
nothing personal kid

and not really... assassin that is quick and speedy and uses a blade. Talk about one of the biggest tropes in the world. Everything is not anime. HGate to say it weeaboo, but not everything comes from anime.
>>182566474
The campy mood kinda reminds me of independence day. I like it.

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How do I get lasers in long war 2? I already have this shit researched. Where do I go next? this tech tree is a mess

>>182566823
Wait, if you already Modular Weapons you should have laser.

>>182566425
Anyone remember that fail screen for xcom when you lose? Gave me nightmares.

Basically the aliens win, poison the atmosphere and make you slaves. The atmosphere makes humans become a breed of genetically deformed beings. Then THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING SHOW YOU THE FUCKED UP FUTURE GENERATIONS. Shit was great senpai.

>>182567075
Yeah I remember that screen. Pretty freaky when I was a kid as well.

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>>182567075
>>182567146

this is the pic

>>182567075
>>182567146
>>182567265
that short alien invasion movie that was popular few weeks ago was pretty close to that scenario, real dark

>>182566823
>>182567008
you need hybrid materials to unlock laser weapons I'm pretty sure, probably along with modular weapons but I cant remember

>>182567454
Rakka.

Its good shit.

is there anything worse than getting oneshot by a fucking trooper

>>182567796
It's pretty much how I imagine things being for the Resistance, really.

Kind of disappointing that the Purifies Flame thrower has a hit chance.

Was any early access streamer stupid enough to get hit by a Lost?
Is there any info about their melee damage and acc?

>Ranger slash causes crash
nice

>>182570053
Well, it looks like the environmental/burning damage was whiffed by the fact the truck was in the way.

But I'm not disappointed, a guaranteed direct hit from such an enemy would be pretty bullshit, even if not giving them it is quite game-y.

>>182567796
I wish they continued it. I'm okay with a short story, but that one didn't seem to have a proper closure.

>>182555136

No just dumb.

That's like saying I own spoons and forks but only eat with my hands. What's the point? Use the tools you're given.

>>182556136

0, just shut up and pay your 30 bucks and accept them putting a premium price tag on what will be a bug ridden mess. Also don't forget it essentially copies mods off workshop as "new features" to justify it. Be a good goy and don't question.

Music confirmed to play outside of the special mission in the stream!

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>be me
>"oh boy what'll be in /xcg/ today?"
>everyone talking about lore and not gameplay
>what's worse, being autistic about it

see ya next edition lads

>>182554802
Is this the XCOM/Shadow of Mordor crossover

No TNX tonight boys. Something came up

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>>182571529
>essentially copies mods
wew lad, not this again

>>182571529
Just because some guy modded Bullups into the game doesn't mean he has some intellectual property over such a common weapon design

>>182571957
>not enjoying lore discussion

>>182572753
and its not like its ability is a mod either, people forget that it is from the heavy in xcom eu

>>182572529

Why not? Only thing that I need to admit was I was incorrect about Notoriety.

Rest is pretty much accurate if you like these practices, you must love how they gouge Civ players too.

I just wait till it's feature complete and on sale to buy. (Civ and XCOM) I won't pay for piecemeal product at premium price because "fans are dumb they'll pay" is a valid strategy these days.

Which ammo do you use on your assaults? Talon or venom/dragon? Bluescreen? I'm using bluescreen right now as nobody else has the damage output to one shot most robots.

>>182573835
show me some of these ripped off mods

>>182573883
Talon since I build assaults for crit.

>>182573835
I wonder what it's like to be a stupid prick like you.

How do i turn on ingame sound when browsing /xcg/?
It's turning off even in borderless windowed.

>>182573835
I'm happy to pay for it because XCOM is a game I love, and by voting with my wallet I'm telling them that I want more of it. And I have enough disposable income to afford the cost, so whatever.

>>182573883
Talon for big crits. Bluescreen works well on Sharpshooters, who can either tag something with a pistol so it can be hacked, or just obliterate it with Double Tap/Fan Fire.

>>182573883
Talon is the best overall

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Threadly reminder that he is the ELDER's MOST LOYAL CHAMPION

>>182573835
>tfw you share a planet with people like this
>tfw people like this are the reason trees are so important

>>182574686
>tfw some unironically copied your ironic post

>>182574863
Wot? I didn't copy shit

>>182573835
Stop baiting people dude.
Your argument ends in the name. MODS as in MODIFICATIONS to the code the devs made.
All mods, even long war 2 are just alterations and added variations of what firaxis already made.

Where as the expansion actually has new content. Like new animations, voice acting, and such.

>>182570515
They said they are going to do stories based around the setting of their new films. May not be the same people though... Sigourney Weaver I missed u so much

>>182574627
>official written article says he thinks he is a god beyond even the Elders
>video says he is the most loyal Chosen and wants nothing more than to please his master

so what is the truth

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I feel like getting back into LW2, what files do I need to wipe to get rid of any mod leftovers?

>>182573835
Gun that shoots twice! Better tell Nigel Thornberry firaxis is running wild with his intellectual property!

>>182572458
Found the witch.

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>>182556136
95% and then it misses the mark like in the game.

>>182575090
Documents folder has my games/xcom/config

Blank config out

>sectopod reveals itself
>gunner with shredder is the last to shoot always

thanks jake...

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>>182575069

He has two sides, nicest guy you'll ever meet, and TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH.

>>182575069
In the video, he's lying.

>>182575069
Maybe there's a disconnect between marketing and writing

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>>182575215
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGz-d60hvs8
Reminder for anyone who needs it that Jake is a great human being.

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>>182575136
>gun that shoots twice
those hacks are ripping off designs all the way back to the 19th century, how can Jake be stopped?

>>182575069
His personality changes over the course of the game. He will start as the most loyal Chosen, but as the game progresses and he receives more and more upgrades he will sink into megalomania. At least that's what I think.

>>182575021
Okay that's good to hear.
I tried looking them up, but it wasn't really clear whether they are contiuning Rakka or make more shorts in different settings.

>>182575620
I'm split on watching more jake but also having to suffer with that god awful fatty

>>182575714
truth be told, they are probably banking on netflix.

Just replayed the Alien Hunter's viper mission again.

I forgot how Vahlen slurred her S's as she spent time with the Viper King.

It was kinda hot.

Do you think we'll ever find out what happened to her?

In the mean time, one of you perverts recommend a good fapfic, I know one of you has an opinion in this subject.

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>>182575668

>19th century

The fucking Chinese did it forever ago. How do we stop this madman?

>>182556965
You know, this quote actually created a headcannon for me.

Xcom 1 victory happened and was real, but psi is bullshit space magic, which makes me think that after their defeat, the ethereals used it to travel back to the beginning of the invasion and take it seriously (Which is why Xcom 2's Xcom had such a brutal and immediate beginning.)

Like, Xcom 1 was a test to see how viable humanity would be, but the ethereals were never in any actual danger, because time/dimensional travel. And that would greatly explain the Ethereal's interest in the commander, because they've already seen how successful the commander can be.

>>182573835
>/xgc/ will defend this

>>182573835
Let me tell you son about a company called Paradox...Seriously though Xcom got like 1 cosmetic pack so far. That isn't bad.

>>182576062
rakked vahlen tumblr

Google

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>>182576251
>flintlocks
>swords
>axes
this shit is ancient, but nobody took notice until one heroic anon pointed it out to us

>>182576062
I never liked vahlen. She was way to eager to want live speciman. One day she takes the live speciman and the next day it is a corpse I can sell

>>182576689
I just want you to know I read this in the voice of a vaguely middle-eastern store owner, like a deli or something, and it improved the experience immensely.

>>182576654
Woah you know old, old, OLD sci fi writers considered the possibly of energy weapons long before xcom?

>>182576654
>flintlocks
What were they thinking?

>>182576503
plus firaxis isn't doing shit like microtransactions. That shit is in pretty much every big game now.

>>182567796
>Zygote reminds me of Phoenix Point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWB-MVJ4sQ

>>182576654
>>182576869
It's actually a percussion cap

>>182576062
>one of you perverts recommend a good fapfic

Sadly I don't think there are any, bar a couple of EU ones with Valhen and a Muton. It's criminal how little porn there is of the Viper King, especially since almost all of it is gay shit.

>>182576972
>Firaxis isn't the biggest Jews and Trump is President.

Is this the will of Stein's Gate?

>>182577168
>Stein's Gate
Wasn't that anime based on a debunked theory about a Guy who pretended he was from the future on a forum. It's anime so it is automatically garbage anyways.

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>>182576689
>tfw XCOM denies you fresh ayylien corpses

>>182577406
>>182576689
>>182576062
So Vahlen is definitely a war criminal right? Pretty much if Unit 731 or someshit was a living breathing human being.

>>182576543
This is good.

You're a good guy.

>>182577156
This is a travesty. Do I have to write it myself? Jesus you guys are slacking.

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>>182577557
she is now the head scientist of the Templar, codename "Geist"

>>182577707
W8 no seriously? Don't play with my heart anon.

>>182577707

IT MAKES SENSE

>>182577816
its a stupid theory that probably isn't true

>>182577707
It's Durand. It's why we haven't seen much of them.

>>182577947
>>182577816
He's not being serious, he's fucking with you.

>>182577707
Makes sense, Shen gets a DLC, Vahlen gets a DLC right after.

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>>182577816
>>182577990
>german codename
>nothing revealed yet about the inner workings of the Templar
>already equipped with warden armor and psionics
but that's just a theory, a game theory

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>>182578120
>>182577990
GODDAMMIT

>>182578057
>some literal who frogeater was capable of researching end game tier armor and psionics

>>182577629
>This is a travesty. Do I have to write it myself? Jesus you guys are slacking.

I actually write porn myself, but I've just never got around to it. There's always been other stuff in other settings I wanted to do more.

Kinda want to ship Mox with one of my recurring soldiers though, that man is husbundo-tier. And maybe do something where another soldier is abducted and raped by the Hunter or the Warlock.

>>182578485
she was strong enough to mind control xcom hq

>>182578485
Durand and the Furies were natural psionics stolen by the Humans, so yeah, checks out.

Their armour looks kind of similar to the suits that Spectres wear, so its not like Warden armour is a wholly original invention.

God, you guys are going to be so disappointed when it isn't Vahlen. (Its probably not the Furies/Durand either)

>>182577629
>This is a travesty. Do I have to write it myself? Jesus you guys are slacking.

I am not about that life anymore man

>>182578057
Don't remind me of that waste of a dlc.

At least Zhang had a cool mission and voicelines.

>>182578774
>stolen by the Ayys

>>182577629
You are welcome

>>182578846
Hey deluge was cool and gave us another roadway map for long war

>>182578701
Xcom porn
> don't fuck with me you better make it

>>182577557
Anon, rule number one of xcom is that there are no war crimes against aliens. This rule extends to alien sympathizers as well.

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>meet this terrifying new enemy
>its weapon looks very dangerous
>void rift 3 of them
>manage to mind control one
>this is its weapon

I'm not sure if I should be scared or not desu

>>182579568
My first encounter with them was... interesting.

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What would the aliens think about Joey? Would they try to subjugate him?

>>182578701
Dragunova and Mox look like a ship to me, anon.

>>182579568

The weapons don't actually do anything hilariously. Boas can only constrict.

Neat concept (like most things in ABA2), but poorly executed. The idea is that Boas will be able to take out half your team by binding them, but you can easily kill an entire pod of them even with their high health and armor.

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>>182579978
No way

Apparently if you use killzone on a door that you know aliens are behind, they won't move when you activate it. What a shame. Or not.

>>182560346
>Outsiders - Presumably genderless constructs.
they look like buff dudes

i mean, i get that they aren't like tittyflashy codices but they're pretty male like Optimus Prime is male

>>182560997
all i get from people enjoying memri tv shitposting is that they actually agree with the arab degenerates more than they think

I dreamt that somehow during a mission a female XCOM operative got infected with some sort of ayy virus, and then back at the Avenger the Commander would be informed of something going on in the troopers' living quarters, an operative screaming in agony. A cutscene from the Commander's POV running to the living quarters followed and then a door breaks open and a snek that can speak English appears behind it.

When I woke up I decided I'd stop playing XCOM for a while

>>182563405
I thought that was changed from XCOM 1 to 2.

>>182581328
No, damn good ground is the one who gives a defense bonus.

>>182579978
That would break poor Volk's heart.

My ears don't deceive me, right? Volk *is* voiced by Frakes?

>>182581328
Definitely not in vanilla, at least. Not sure about LW2.

>>182581671

Think the whole expansion is voiced by Star Trek cast m8.

>>182581671
Marcus from fallout and worf

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Post vials

>>182582096
Your soldier looks like a person who would piss me off if we met in real life. I realize this says more about me than anything else, but I want you to know that your screenshot actually made me kind of angry for half a second.

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>>182582096

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Bitch deployed, Commander.

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>>182582379

Why's that, anon?

>>182582379
looks like a crazy girl I used to know

>>182582493
>posting ugly bitches

>>182582493
what a beautiful and pure blonde girl

Is Beags gonna do XCOM tonight or not

>>182582493
If this was what you were aiming for for your operative, you missed the margin by a lot. But that's ok because faces in XCOM 2 are pretty meh.

>>182563536
>that fucking 90s music
>rookie jumping like 50 meters and blasting alien fucking shits with conventional weapons

fucking hell this intro was some cool shit

>>182583371
The new XCOM opening is actually just a recreation of this intro minus the fighting part.

>>182577707
>inb4 Geist is a strong independent WoC who's woke kang descendant followers have been having way more success than you resisting the ayys using their superior technologies and natural psychic abilities

>>182583212
It wasn't, she was randomly generated and I thought she looked kinda cute. They're usually all bald or buzz cut MtFs in my games.

>>182583371
expectations vs reality:
When you boot up the game and enter your secret key from the manual and watch the intro and you're super pumped and you think I'm gonna be a team of badasses then you select normal difficulty but you're on the release version of the game and it's bugged to only play hardest difficulty and you spend time loading up your skyranger and naming your soldiers Joey Loads and Rod Thurston and then you shoot down a UFO and you're super pumped to waste some xenos but when you land a sectoid oneshots your first rookie down the ramp and another panics and fires a rocket in the skyranger and everyone dies and you lose the mission and all your gear and the skyranger too and the council of naitons calls you a retard and signs pacts with the aliens even though they know they're gonna get mutated and fucked up because they'd rather have three arms and a rocky ass than deal with your failure anymore and you realize that life will never be good to you...

>>182585708
I thought the release version was bugged to the lowest difficulty

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>>182585849

Does anyone use this mod? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=623809996
If so, does the Beatdown skill prevent you from nonlethally knocking out Dark VIPs?

>>182585849
You are correct.

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>>182582096

>>182585849
>>182586162
and it was TftD that had it bugged to the hardest?

>>182586268
no tftd just had its difficulty upped because people thought the original was too easy

>>182586268
>>182586465
Yeah TFTD they just ramped up the difficulty, I believe working off the feedback that UFO was too easy (because it was bugged to always be on easiest difficulty).

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>>182582096

>>182586040
I don't see why it would preclude subdue

>Moox and Skirmisher aesthetic is pretty much tthe TF ports
Sweet

>>182578485
>XCOM never finds Durand
>EXALT finds Durand
>EXALT creates a psionics division with Durand at the head
>EXALT is ground into the fucking dirt but the psionics division continues on as the Templars

I mean you find out about Durand from an EXALT member.

ARGH I want to play XCOm but it's pointless until the expansion is out

>>182586040
Every time I have a dark VIP I worry about beatdown. Every time, it just works, at least for the "Blue move adjacent to vip, then beatdown." With the caveat of I don't know about yellow move melee.

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>>182582096

STELT

Eventually I just blew a hole into the back wall and dashed out

Still managed to get a Gravely Wounded because the evac zone had shit positioning and two mechs dropped on the flare

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>>182587507
Same.

>>182587414
EXALT captures her and hands her over to the aliens so they can assault XCOM HQ, and EXALT attempts to retrieve her; resulting in the aliens bombing the dam convoy. She's probably dead.

But my headcanon is that she was recaptured by the aliens and put into stasis like the commandy one. At least that's my excuse for her being in my character pool. Same thing with Zhang/Van Doorn.

>>182587987
You know there's a MEC behind you right?

1-3 Long War 2
4-6 GTA V
7-9 Xenonauts
0 Fap

>>182588392
>EXALT captures her and hands her over to the aliens so they can assault XCOM HQ
I don't think EXALT ever cooperates with the ayys in vanilla. The entire time they are just fighting over stuff with normal earth forces in the mix.

>>182588578

I started the mission and dodged the main road because I heard turrets

I ended up making it all the way to the vial in full containment, the positioning of the evac was total garbage though so I had to adjust a lot

I did rocket the back wall to leave but I got a really shitty dropship and a wounded. And I guess a pretty solid kill cone, 6 shots off, main wound came from having to run a MEC overwatch though

>>182588578
He likes to watch like a little cuck boi he is.

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>>182588826
She's in a photo in exalt hq

>>182589152
Yeah because they wanted to capture here.

>>182589441
If I'm not mistaken she's part of the reason EXALT ambushed that convoy in Portent. Thin men are present, which may mean they're cooperating with the ayys, or at least enemy of my enemy.

>>182589697
Those missions are supposed to be EXALT and Aliens fighting over the Furries/Annette and other psionics. EXALT loses.

>>182589697
I don't know if Portent includes any palpable links with Anette or if it's just to introduce you to EXALT in a roundabout fashion, but in the last DLC mission, the aliens are attacking an EXALT convoy to try and abduct Anette for themselves. My assumption was that EXALT and the aliens have been constantly fighting one another for control over the Furies - at one point the aliens have control over them, leading to the XCOM base assault, but she either escapes or is freed by EXALT, who seek to use her for their own ends. It was stated numerous times in interviews leading up to Enemy Within's release that EXALT and the aliens aren't working together. EXALT is a third faction with its own goals, not a group of alien collaborators. They're looking to exploit the invasion for their own ends.

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>>182589872
Makes sense

>>182590327
Do they ever mention who was in that suit?

>>182590536
It's just a blank template AVATAR. The one the commander uses for the final mission.

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>>182590536
It's an unfinished avatar. The same one you commandeer for the final assault

WHERE IN THE FUCK DO I GET ELERIUM CRYSTALS IN LW2

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>>182590789
Smash n grab
Supply raid
Advent HQ assault
Ufo raid
Render elerium cores

>>182590736
>>182590772
Ah, that makes more sense. I thought they just patched up the Avatar corpse

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What do you think they're talking about? :3

>>182591249
sssnek ssstuff

>>182591249
How hard it is to get laid when their is no male of their species and due to the Elders constant watch.

>>182590986
thank you, you were very helpful

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>>182591249
What they want on their headstone.

>>182590327
I don't remember this being in the game?

So what species do you think is under constant mind control and what species willingly follows the elders orders?

>>182591484
The forge.

>>182589872
>EXALT loses
Maybe they did in EW but XCOM 2 is a different timeline. Maybe things go different because XCOM lost so early.

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>>182591484
You don't remember the forge mission?

>>182591468
>Ranger without huge muscles.

How odd.

>>182591714
Except EXALT isn't around by X2, so they lost either way.

>>182589102
Cute guy.

>>182591891
Doesn't mean they didn't get Durand out. 20 years is a long time. The Templars exist and they have advanced technology but aren't Ayys.

Someone had to develop it.

>>182591714
>the aliens defeat xcom and let their guard down
>exalt steals the furries under their nose
>exalt goes into hiding after the foundation of advent
>in the past 20 years they have devoted into researching psionics hoping to match the same power the elders have
>the now call themselves "The Templars"

>>182592063
>"The Templars"
Can't wait to hear more about them.

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>>182591864
It's just the normal male body.

>>182592000
Oh that part, yeah that can work.

>the maniacal laugh that the German 1 VA does after shooting something

God yes.

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>>182593104
ITA 8 is a real hardass. He sounds like he's ready to tear some heads off every time I give him an order.

>>182593104

>Intense Australian Male 01

'ERE I COME

>>182588302

God damn Priests look stupid.

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>>182591960
Piers Nivans is quite the cutie.

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t-thats xcom b-baby

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>haha finally preorder is o-
>mfw the price

>>182593607
All they needed to do was cover the mouth

>>182592063
>>182592178
Isn't the Templar's icon kinda similar to the EXALT one?

desu I'm expecting them to be EXALT's successor

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>>182593762
oh

>>182593607
The helmet is too big

>>182589102

Surprisingly cute, too bad about the everything from the neck down.

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dae have their soldiers sort of "fall apart" when they're rotated very fast

>>182594292

You have to be able to distinguish these units in a glance. Priests being white need a helmet shape to make them visibly different from Shieldbearers.

>>182594929
yes

>>182593909
It's very possible, four-pointed stars are on both logos and the Templar logo has a pyramid with a dot at the top, reminiscent of the eye of providenc,e which the Exalt Logo was based on, just with an odd octagonal shape for some reason.

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>>182594830
Don't like ottermode guys?

>>182594992

While i don't disagree, i don't think that argument applies to Xcom, Xcom is a turn based game, not an RTS where a korean is throwing armies of little tiny monsters at you at surprising speeds. You literally have all the time in the world.

>>182593909
Definitely. They both have the same stargleam symbol and the triangle on the Templar logo is clearly an illuminati pyramid.

Finally, those that claim EW was just a simulation will be shut up for good.

>>182595103
>>182594830
I do not understand gay dudes at all.

Breasts and beauty are way too much to give up imo.

>>182583127

Probably not. Don't be surprised if he rage quits after that Shit show he put on a couple weeks ago. His barracks is fucked and I don't think he has the willpower(motivation) to continue an uphill battle