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Old >>182507716
First for a shit game.
Post elf.
What's a good deck to build to more or less learn the game with?
>>182551234
Neutral
>>182551234
>learn the game
1,2,3 Alice!
that's it
now you are SV Grand Master
What's the point of this card anymore?
>>182551337
250 vials
>>182551206
pls dont lewd the elf
>he still plays shadowverse
>>182551206
They really like goblin dick, don't they.
>>182551365
Nabbed it off twitter. Has been working rather well for me.
>>182551431
Make me.
>People are now defending RoB release Daria decks
Shit was broken as fuck too. Levi + Piercing is still some of the biggest bullshit this game has seen, and hoping it bricked so you could win didn't make it any less bullshit compared to neutral blood since that can brick too. By the way, what nerfs are you guys expecting? I think they'll bump up Tove to 3pp and change Goblin Leader's effect to activate at the start of your turn. I'm not sure how they would change the other cards though.
>>182551856
(you)
>>182551537
Because I just started right before ToG.
>>182551856
Scarlet needs to be a 2/3. BKB hits your face even if vengeance is active. Goblin Leader's summon is a fanfare.
>>182551856
It's not "defending" in the way you think. It's just a simple fact that Daria wasn't a t0 deck like Blood is.
>>182551903
Kill yourself, ketchupnigger.
>>182552076
i'm a blood main since DE and i know this is the worst meta, not gonna play the game until they nerf baph
>>182552075
And when it vomited 3 oglers on the board it ended the match just like Spawn.
>>182552076
Better be a ketchupnigger than a shadownigger.
Fuck, I thought the last word effect triggers AFTER I finished attacking.
Urias and Luna would make a great couple. They can live together in a spooky mansion.
>>182552285
Yeah if you highrolled. Blood doesn't need to highroll to get their free wins.
>>182552397
Dude, that's how a reaper survives Israfil
>>182552397
the order is 2 damage to all enemys -> lurching dies --> isra dies before she can deal 8 damage
I think...
t. A rank
>>182552285
Dariafag here, out of 1k+ daria games, the t4/t5 three ogler thing happened only 5 times. The deck is inconsistent as fuck, last month I had 11k mp and 45k score at the end of the month. You either win on turn 5 - 6 or just get fucked by eachtar/dragon's boardclear and heals. I don't even want to see how good daria is in this meta.
>>182551337
To fap, just like medusa and erinyes.
>>182552647
That's correct, anon.
DEAD GAME
DEAD GENERAL
>>182552718
>I don't even want to see how good daria is in this meta.
Let me tell you.It's not.I wish Heinlein was good.
>>182552718
>I don't even want to see how good daria is in this meta.
Oh, but you'll get a kick out of this. Those oglers?They're too small to contest the board against Alice vomit.
>>182552980
>I wish Heinlein was good.
Me too. T6 is just too slow and you're better off playing daria instead.
STOP!Give me your midrange sword list and Vampy will give you the mantis.
>>182553261
I just want a blowjob from Vampy.
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201707/11137362.html
Is someone translating the Famitsu interviews?
>>182553324
stop
>>182553376
No!
>>182553261
I'm doing fine using vengeance blood
Luna is old and busted.
>>182553719
Claudia is a cutie!
>>182553594
How are you surviving all that direct damage? I tried it for a while but kept dying to Claws, Cats and Spawn evolves.
Man, I'm such a countfag, but at least it's reassuring to know I'm doing fine.
>>182553789
Spiderweb imps from dark airjammer helpes, helps early turn if you get her too, and disagreeable demon as well
>>182553261
GIVE ME BACK MY MANTIS YOU SLUT
>>182554074
But all the damage that gets past taunts is what I'm talking about.
>>182554303
It's vengeance blood, so I make it my goal to win before spawn goes face. With diabolic drain and constantly keeping your hp at 10, spawn evo alone can't kill you, but you must win next turn else you lose.
Phantom Cat is late and won't be used with perfect curved bapho abyss if you use him at curve. Vengeance blood will have enough board to threaten the enemy early game, and dark general for finishing off later. but yeah it's a bad matchup in general, still, but still good against other factions
Why we don't have an "orc craft"? So every elf can have a husband.
>>182555031
delet this
>>182553594
>vengeance blood
Show me your dick.
>>182555314
Nevar! It's my friend's dick so I treasure it to death!
>>182555031
Literally the worst fetish
>be me
>lose
why go on?
>>182555031
Never ever
>>182555985
Just win bro
Just go first bro
Just keep 2PP removal bro
>stealing climbing 1k pts per day with a deck that got ridiculed by everyone
This expansion is so fun. I hope I hit GM before everyone knows the list.
HOLD UP
how do I get those sleeves?
>>182556257
>go back in time
>be born japanese
>>182556257
Live in Japan and get a mobile plan. Or something like that.
>>182556257
https://www.linksmate.jp/about/game/shadowverse/
>>182556257
Only if you are in nipland and I doubt they will ever change that because nip privilege.
>fart
>it stinks
Nice fucking game KMR
concedu desu please thank you
77261
>>182556257
Post dick
>>182556740
thanks vampy
>>182556349
>>182556386
>>182556410
>>182556560
fuck the nips
>spend ten minutes thinking about what broken card to use
bloodwagoners, I swear
>>182556906
I'm not sure what to replace for my third Sybil when the prebuilts come out. Maybe Conflagration.
>>182557113
>zell in this day and age
That's some spicy meme.
>>182557213
He's actually so good with Queen of the Dread Sea.You can combo them with Arriet, or go for the classic Bahamut.
How is Nep doing now? What deck build is best atm? I run her with dingdongs but I feel like they might be a liability
>>182557378
>Need evolve
He's shit.
>>182557432
Good unless your opponent get a perfect curve.
You'll also get fucked hard by Rune with how prevalent mutagenic and both Levi are.
>>182557432
I haven't been playing Nep this meta, but here's two from guys who got to GM. Rune is obviously an issue, though.
>>182557737
It's not hard to keep one evolve for your win with a bunch of removal.
>>182557737
>thinks evolve is the problem with Zell
D rank?
>>182557873
>playful necro
>orthrus
>that random fucking mummy
i can't take these seriously
>>182557894
>everything is above x/4 now
Dragon has no removal.
>>182557894
Salamander and lel turn (8) nuke dragon got all outclassed- or should I say become all unplayable.
>>182558118
Are you trying to invalidate my lived experience or something? Because I'm winning a lot with this deck, even against Spawniggers.
>>182558087
Then just take the more cookie cutter 2378 variant.
Who 1k here?
P-please channel your energy for best girl
>>182558301
That's a damn of a good lie. Removal turn X do nothing can't compete in this meta, in any meta, really. Even Themis is subpar now, which's the only good removal along with Revelation.
>>182558583
>windowed fullscreen-kun again
please stop that
>>182558583
you're probably just going to brick while playing against constructed tier deck
Dragon has 1pp 2 damage removal along with 2pp 2x2 damage removal. Dragonewt fist is risk, but maybe worth it. The followers themselves have board damage effects long before BKB
>>182558583
I recently won 5/5 with sword.
If I could, you can as well!
>>182552718
Why would you use Daria when you can do the same with neutral engine bricking so much less. But during RoB era I got from AA0 to AA2 in a week and didn't even played the game every day. 8 win streaks with this deck was hella easy to pull.
I honestly can't pull 8 win steaks with neutral vampire at all. Mostly because you go second and don't pull tove so your opponent wins. My record is 5 wins and I honestly believe those big streaks it's because they went first on all.
>>182558789
Nothing below 5PP can destroy a follower with 3 defense by fanfare along.
>>182558839
>Why would you use Daria when you can do the same with neutral engine bricking so much less.
Neutral isn't fun.
>>182558920
>BKB
>>182558998
I know. This game stopped being fun a long time ago.
>>182558920
halo golem and bkb
>>182559003
>not a dragon card
>>182559117
>needing sigil
>>182559186
>nothing below 5PP can destroy a follower by fanfare alone
>moving goalposts
just admit that you're wrong and move on
>log in
>press skip twice
>close game
Thanks KMR
Not a fanfare, but Surefire Bullet helps
>>182558789
Are you being ironic or something? Forest and Rune are all better at it than Dragons. Dragon and Sword when it comes down to removal are in the same tier. That's how bad it is, you're better off spamming 1 body bahamut.
>>182559457
Same tier you say. Where's the whole board removal from sword and forest lol
>40+ packs
>only meme legos to show for it
t-thanks cygames
Sofiel when?
>>182559553
>unaware of what Forest can do
Well, nothing can be done anymore.
>when your hardest matchup is against swordcraft
It's the only one that I think it actually is a test of "who can go faster"
>>182559943
kys luckshitter
>182560163
It's a shitfest of "I'll storm your shit next turn and place bane plus a ward and storm your shit again next turn."
>>182559349
>fanfare alone
>fanfare earthrite
>fanfare alone
I haven't moved anything
>>182560314
bkb is fanfare alone
>>182560716
>Bkb is Blood's and Blood alone
ftfy
>>182560163
Forest has always had trouble dealing with Sword.
>>182560859
What the fuck are you trying to say?
>>182560859
Siegfried :^)
>>182561018
That your ass need to be nerfed you fucking nigger.
>Give card a cool name
>It just summons some shitty dragon and deals 1 damage
>>182561219
>2 PP 6/7
How is this card not broken?
>>182561291
*6/6
>>182561219
>the name is cool because it's edgy
12 btw
>>182561373
>I don't like edgy things I-I'm a mature person! I need to prove it to others!
16 btw
>>182561291
Its slow?
>current year
>still not Grand Master
I think I'll switch to Blood just for a bit
>>182561373
You don't know what edge means
Post meme decks.
>>182561809
>grinding the 10k in the most boring and shitty meta
>>182561809
good post, good meme
I want to sit next to Eris in church. I hope she doesn't shush me.
>>182561219
>one (1) fucking damage to all
holy shit nerf dis
>>182562228
thanks
>>182562743
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
How's your animated legendary collection coming along?
So apparently the reason why KMR introduces to us the Abyss meta is because they are promoting Made in Abyss.
>>182563106
fake and gay
>>182563358
So what are they going to promote next
>>182562928
I wish Carabosse was better. Maybe next expansion if neutral dies somehow and then she would be better than Cat.
>>182563106
>>182563464
Daria is cuter
>>182563637
Gay.
>>182563606
>dark alice
>seraph
im jelly
>>182563606
I'm still waiting for Medusa to become playable
>>182563637
>>182563671
Pascale/Pamela is better than both.
this one is pretty cool
>>182563606
>Maybe next expansion if neutral dies somehow
The only way Neutral will die next expak is if they introduce something more cancerous for every deck type. Which they won't. They'll introduce something cancerous for 2-3 types, and we'll be back to the ToG meta of only two viable classes.
The ONLY way to fix this game now is for ban/restricted lists. Alice needs to be restricted to 1/deck, etc.
>>182563861
>White Ridge Swordman
>Lilac
>Fugitive Fangs
nope.
>>182563637
better forrape
>>182563606
>>182562928
>>182562928
WLD increased my collection considerably.
>>182559943
I want that animated carabosse.
>>182563945
>The ONLY way to fix this game now is for ban/restricted lists.
This game is literally unfixable at this point, they would need to ban or restrict at least 3 expansions (possibly more in the future), which will never happen. But people will keep playing it anyway like the shiteaters they are, just like how they keep playing ASSFAGGOTS despite being utter shit.
Once you get this popular, there is virtually no way to lose your shit eating consumers.
>Bahamut in Take Two
I thought I wouldn't see Deathwing anymore after I left hs.
>>182565007
At least Deathwing discards the rest of the user's hand when they play it.
>>182565270
DELETE THIS
>>182565270
>Not mating with goblins
Dropped
>>182563927
What's wrong with her face?
>>182557873
No more ledger?
>>182565270
>yui hoire saying this
>>182565332
you're underage
>>182564892
Nah, a ban/restrict list could easily fix this game and make it playable again. The whales would bitch though, and they can't have that.
>You will never be so bad to have barely 10% winrate with neutral blood.
Really makes me question if it's any worth for me to continue playing this game.
>>182565270
That's not what you use toilets for.
Need a friend and concede for Private Match
46108
>>182566085
Thanks famalamadingdong
>>182560986
Forest has trouble against board-spam shit. When sword switched to the storm midrange version in RoB and TotG Forest did a lot better against it. Forest had a positive winrate against Sword for the entirety of TotG even.
Shadow replaced Sword as the board spam class and now Forest has trouble with them instead. The only Sword deck that actually fucks over Forest now is control Sword.
>>182565974
You are retarded. You'd have 0 master points if you had <50% winrate.
>>182565980
>he doesn't splash his semen into the toilet
????
>>182566450
>not recycling your own semen
>>182565270
Source?
>>182566341
I'm not running anything crazy forestmeta right now but if I see sword throw down the turn 1 goblin before I can that's usually a bad sign of how the rest of the game will go for me.
>>182564384
Forest only board clear is the unreliable ETA and Will of the Forest which again might be unreliable depending on how much do you brick.
It's pretty retarded that fairies doesn't hold up anymore as a pseudo board clear.
23019
Need a concede
NEUTRAL NERFS WHEN!
>>182567563
>It's balanced because everyone can use it
Thank you.
earthrite its fun
>>182567691
>then you realize it isn't because tove exist
Thank you.
>>182567691
>implying everyone can go first
>>182567691
When everyone's meta
No one is
>>182567870
Post list.
>>182568137
>>182568360
>>182567870
>bullying dragon
But yeah, dirt is fucking fun. It also feels different unlike muh neutrals that got into every craft.
I can only play haven and dirt now. Fuck nautrals, these crafts can work with class cards
We need discover
>lol neutral curve
>>182559943
>2 carabosses
I wish I was you
>>182568713
>We need more random "le stories to tell your friends" mechanics
Fuck off.
>>182561809
>grinding for GM in this meta
what's the point of playing in this shirry, unfun meta
>>182568713
Bronze follower for Blood, 2/1 for 5. Fanfare: Discover a follower with Ambush, reduce its cost by 3.
>>182569030
This meta is literally better than ToG and RoB though. I don't understand you crybabies
>>182569037
>t5 do nothing
>>182561219
>literally 7pp 6/6 1 damage to everything
trashy af
We need silence.
>>182569438
Banish.
>>182569438
then shut up
>>182569382
This meta is fun. It's very different than when the game started for sure and meme decks can't win in ranked anymore, but the games are all so intense if you have a decent deck.
>>182562928
I'm literally forced to make count haven work every expansionIt never does
>>182569382
>>182569741
go away kmr
>>182568713
No, what we need is fucking Scry.
>>182570036
Once you actually play this meta, you realise that it isn't as super garbage as you expected it to be. Thank you.
Will Ginger ever be good?
I want to fuck Lyrial
>>182569382
>>182569741
The flying fuck? This is the worse meta ever. Even ToG was better than this garbage. At least Balanced man didn't came until round 7, now with the neutral garbage the game is decided by turn 4.
>>182569382
>>182569741
Bloodbabs detected.
Can someone please concede for a quest?
94836
>>182570343
if we ever get a card that gives spellboost: substract 1 from it's cost (way inconsistent and highroll dependent) or an ongoing boardwide invulnerability
>>182570242
ayyy
>>182570598
Thanks!
Give me one (1) reason to continue playing this shit game.
>>182570242
>in that cse it's good design, right? you see the cards and they're exciting, but then they turn out to be balanced
>thank you
fucking kimura
>>182570951
You're susceptible to the sunken cost fallacy.
>>182570951meme decks
>>182570951
Luna!
>>182571171
She's the only reason I kept playing through TotG.
But I'm fucking done.
>>182569438
>>182569438
>>182570343
Until bahamut and themis exists, no.
>>182570479
Not either of them but how in the fuck is inevitably losing to the same shit every game any better because it's slower? fighting shadow felt like a huge waste of time, you maintain tempo? doesn't matter my 2/2 will kill your 15/15 for practically no cost lol, you clear their shit 3 times? doesn't matter you give them fuel to fully recover again lol, you slipped and failed to kill a couple followers? 8/8 t5 reaper and eachtar targets lmao.
Shadow was the worst of the worst. Every match felt like torture.
>>182571171
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
>>182571264
>literally wah wah why is my class no longer t0 after 3 months
Nobody will miss another filthy shadownigger, now kill yourself.
>>182571834
Stop acting like there weren't ways to counter shadow. While it was tier 1 they had Dragon to keep them in place. Who the fuck checks on Blood? This shit is basically you go second against blood is fucking over. Both Shadow or Dragon never got to the point Blood has this expansion, the winrates and playrates of neutral blood are fucking stupid.
>Weak minded people jump ship when they have to deal with a meta they don't like
>>182570343
I hope so, she's the only way I could ever use my animated Erasmus and I really like the guy. It needs boardwide destruction protection that's not activated on fanfare
Hearthstone is a coin flip clown fiesta.
The new Elder Scrolls Legends expansion has a shit-ton of rng broken cards even though they market it as a competitive card game which it absolutely isn't with bullshit prophecies.
Duelyst devs completely fucked up the game expansion after expansion, why does that game have a board if they are not gonna use it? Also the game is dead.
Eternal is a digital card game with mana screw problems in 2017.
Shadowverse is an uninteractive brainless game atm in which you know if you won or lost at turn 4.
Gwent - Can't say anything about it since I haven't played it, but I'm honestly not that interested in it.
So basically, are all digital ccg becoming shit or is there any other card game in which doing quest isn't a fucking chore?
For fucks sake
>>182571264
>shadow niggers crying
Every time
>people say elf and dragon are dead
>see 2 streams in openrec playing otk elf and polyroar in masters
Elf stream just ended.
>>182572382
Play the superior digital card game.
>>182572382
>at turn 4
start of the game. and no, ccg are just caschows where you don't even have to invest on printing shit unlike tcgs
>>182553594
>played against kys blood today
>he drops belphegor and makes my job twice easier
>i drop 5pp abyss
>suddenly 3 spiderweb imps
>evolve abyss and razor claw
>>182572154
Dragon shadow matchup was a 50/50 at most, and then what happened? Dragon got obliterated with nerfs while shadow might as well been left untouched. Stop acting like shadow wasn't as bad as blood.
I FORGOT THERE WERE FREE PACKS FOR LOGGING IN
Have I lost free packs?
>>182572848
These events always have some leeway
This time round I think you have 2 weeks to get 10 login rewards
>>182572382
>mana screw problems
always loved this argument
are you a sandnigger btw?
also Elder Scrolls is unironically the most balanced game of those you mentioned
lol
>>182572382
>not mentioning the superior and most balanced CCGI wished it was still alive
>>182572848
Fucking rip my friend
That could've been the animated alice
>>182572154
>Stop acting like there weren't ways to counter shadow
Not that I agree with him in the fact that ToG was worse than WD, but Midrange Shadow had as much counters as Neutral Blood has right now, which is none.
>>182572576
Just because there are people torturing themselves by playing not-Blood, it doesn't mean that not-Blood isn't dead.
>>182572576
anything not t0-t1 for swordbab gen is ded craft
>>182572576
There is that one guy that only plays elf, but masters at this point is a meme only gm counts
>>182572662Fuck that bullshit Zapdos OTK
>>182572154
No deck was a counter to shadow, so no there weren't ways to counter shadow. Pretending shadow was in any way healthy for the game and not completely broken is beyond retarded.
>>182573893
And thinking that blood isn't fucking worse is even more retarded.
>>182574217
>b-but blood
hmm i wonder whos behind this post
Hi, i am just starting Shadowverse since i have seen it reccomended everywhere and i am pausing Faeria until expansions comes out.
Is there any decent deck in the game that contains next to no anime girls or possibly some male(read: not girl looking) characters?
the artstyle looks sickening to my tastes, but i need something more than mechanics to keep me interested.
>>182573853
The entire endgame is just fucking insane.
Best pokemon game ever
>>182574397
>>182574342
>t. blood nigger
>>182574397
maybe heartstone is up to your par with the horrible art
>have a bunch of Dragon dailies
>almost jumped into ranked to do them
>>182573212
What are you trying to imply with that picture fellow Gamer?I'm serious tho
>>182574397
dragon probably, maybe neutral with goblins
>>182572848
WAIT, I'm a dum dum. It only started a few days ago. Somehow.
>>182574397
Play Duelyst
>>182566341
>Shadow replaced Sword as the board spam class and now Forest has trouble with them instead
>and now Forest
Everyone else, you dumb fucker. Shadow is broken.
>>182574645
>shadowverse
>good """""art"""""
kys weeb
>>182575080
nigger
>people complaining about spawn and blood
Show me a pic with 30 and above wins faggots.
Both midshadow and OTK forest did this in the past.
>>182574397
if you don't like the art there's not much left
>>182575080
>on a chinese cartoon image board website
>calling other people weebs
tell me more about it anon
15 min until I open the game and close it again in less than two min.
>>182572157
>6 months straight of a complete shit meta is a good thing
>this will totally attract players and improve the game
>>182575171
There's the Japanese voices.
I opened 2 legos in the last 2 packs
will this be the third?
Daily /svg/ phases based on time of day:
-Defeated whining about the meta
-Passive Aggressive shitposting
-Defeated whining about the meta mixed with discord shitposting
-A few hours of actual discussion
-Repeat
>>182574397
Hearthstone?
>>182576772
Euro hours are always the worst.
NeutBlood was the best thing to happen to this game.
Most matches now end in less than 5 minutes so now I can do other things while grinding master.
>>182576772
you forgot vampy feet posting
>>182572157
>playing a game you don't enjoy
>feeling superior for it
lol what a cuck
>>182576963
SEA niggers are the worst
Euro hours are the best :^)
>>182574397
kys
>>182576987
t. takeshi uematsu, commuting salaryman
>>182577169
>not using the superior version
POCKS
>>182573045
>bethesda
>balance
>>182575165
Yeah but it's okay when shadow does it dumb bloodnigger
I want to sit next to Eris in church. I hope she doesn't shush me.
bree bacs
PAXX
this shit is pretty strong desu if your opponent got a bad opening hand
>>182572157
>those who jump shit from a shitty game are "weak minded people"
>aka people not suffering from sunk costs because they poured hundreds of dollars into a trashy waifu simulator
>>182572382
digital ccgs are destined to either be rng/op shitfests or die from a tiny playerbase. the rng and grossly overpowered shit attracts the lowest common denominators of the mobile market - kids/casuals addicted to "freemium" models where they can spend a few dollars to gamble for the chance to get really strong shit, and whales who will max their credit cards so they can have the best/shiniest shit to show off. actual serious, competitive players make a very very very tiny portion of the market.
with these games the matches need to be short and full of bright colors + flashy animations to keep people's attention and it needs to have a level of ease and rng so even the shittiest player will win sometimes, feel good, and feel compelled to buy packs or crystals or gems or whatever the in-game currency is. as long as games like candy crush and castle clash whatever can print millions you can expect to see digital card games stylized in a similar way.
Got a full set now.
Got an Emeralda and a Dark Alice.
Th-thanks
>master of memeic arts
fuck off KMR
>>182578023
animated attendant tho
Need help for a private daily
36190
Is that an animated jojo reference I see
>>182578324
AWAKEN MY MASTERS
You like little babies.
Watch THIS
[P A C C]
>>182574397
Ramp Dragon or Control Sword is the closest thing to it, but they are some of the most expensive decks in the game.
Other than that, you have the option to either deal with it or go play another game.
>>182578580
Was this supposed to be impressive?
>>182578324
haha oraoraora
My sides in kennedy space centre
>nothing
>again
Yeah whatever
stop posting your shitty packs unless it contains multiple legos or an animated one
>>182578580
>>182578621
I guess this is my punishment for not playing blood.
Yes!
3rd animated bunnycunny!
>>182578640
muda da benisbenisbenisbenis :D
>haven't played Take Two since just after WD came out
>just had my perfect 5-0 run ruined by Spawn of the Abyss in game 5, die to it because I'm seeing it for the first time and didn't realize that it does double its damage if its to face
I'm so fucking confused. There's no fucking way something of this power should be allowed in T2, right? Did someone make a mistake?
>>182568875
You really don't want the kind of luck that pulls her.
Im glad i logged in today.
Is forest still shit?
>>182579064
>Stop doing T2 once RoB hits
>Only do it on rare occasion, like once per month or so
>After a run can't bring myself to do another one so I sit there with a drafted deck for a month
>Last 5 runs were all 5-0
I don't get it either
>>182579457
fuck you i want animated jabbermeme
>crafted 3 oz
>open 2 more in the next week
nande
>>182578640
>>182579009
why do i laugh at these shitposts
>>182579570
>still early in the meta
>rush to craft 3x
nah you are retarded
>>182579064
>doesn't know how Spawn works
Have you been living under a rock? It's not that you haven't played Take Two, you haven't played the game at all post WD.
>>182579730
>Have you been living under a rock? It's not that you haven't played Take Two, you haven't played the game at all post WD.
Yeah, I forgot to mention that I haven't touched the game. Oops.
>>182579543
Play Neutral Forest.
>balance knights into feria
wow such skill much sword
>>182579547
I'd happily give it to you if I could. Only dragon I've ever played is face.
>>182579818
The card has been ruining constructed as well because they can play it turn 6 with Baphomet without a care about tempo loss due to how strong the Neutral early game is.
>>182580038
>turn 7
just themis brah
>>182580038
>shove cock
>next turn feria + alice
Might as well concede
>9th Alice's Adventure
Stop, I want to get off this ride already.
>>182580216
Feria and Alice are cocksluts.
>>182580278
Did you get three animated yet?
>>182580341
Only one.
>>182579543
kys luckshitter
God exist
The Levicalypse is here!
>>182580216
>feria + alice
always a auto concede for me
>>182580725
kill yourself luck shitter
>>182580725
Holy fuck.
>>182580725
kys luckshitter
>>182580725
>>182580725
Die
>>182580725
>>182580725
>played since DE
>have never even gotten a 2 legend pack before
This is fine.
How can one bird be so based?
>>182580725
I'll get the rope ready luckwhale-kun.
rune strim
https://www.openrec.tv/live/803A839gtjh
>>182581819
>not Neutral Rune
Why even bother?
>what if we printed a card worse than a silver from standard
>as a joke
AHAHAHAHAHAHA Good one KMR
>>182581940
>neutral anything
why bother
its always the same shit
>got memed to death by a sigil dshift
what is this???
>>182551118
Is there a better example of a good game being killed so quickly?
>>182582012
I remember that one anon accidentally used his seer globe on that
>>182582263
Hearthstone? Literally downhill from the first expansion.
>>182582012
Sage Commander is not even from Standard, it's a basic card.
>>182579543
Forest is the worst craft currently
>>182580725
i once got an animated + normal lego but i never got the same twice in the same pull PLUS another one. lands of wonders indeed
>>182581819
Oh its that guy from RAGE killed himself the same turn as the elana player and lost because of the scripted misplay
>>182582263
Most games get fucked in this much time.
>>182582012
>getting a worse version of basic cards
just forest things
>>182582452
That's Dragon.
>>182572662
I beat that game like 3 or 4 times. I fucking loved it.
>saha-bahamut-zell combo and lightning blast are OP
>this shit and mutagenic bolt isn't
>>182582729
>this shit isn't
Who said that?
>muta bolt
If you could organize your deck in any order, so that you know exactly what you draw each turn (as well as your starting hand), what would be the best deck?
>>182576217
>our statistics show that many people logged in during Wonderland Dreams. We think our audience enjoyed the expansion and hope to make many more like it
>>182582892
D shift
>>182582892
dshift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ack-ZtiKuYI
>>182582892
dshit
>>182582729
>doesn't even mention baph-spawn
kill yourself bloodnigger
>>182583043
>duelyst
>good
go away jew
>>182583004
>>182583043
fuck off, shill
>>182579457
>one playable legendary
kys luckshitter
>>182583043
Thank you for spreading the word of Duelyst! One epic crate key has been deposited to your account.
Regards, CPG.
>>182583496
>not rewarding one Envybaer
>>182583274
Is this actually real?
>>182583635
I respect women. I don't treat them like objects that can just be given away, sorry.
>>182583726
you mean the review? yes, just go to the Duelyst steam page and filter for bad reviews
what it implies? no idea because I never played it and never will
the art is atrocious
>>182583783
then you get the reward to feed envy eggs
>>182583783
>I respect women.
>>182583929
Women could feed themselves, it's 2017.
This gross game is destroying the minds of white males everywhere.
>Hate playing as elf niggers
>Hate playing against elf niggers
Why is Vampy so mean?
>>182583072
Bath-spawn can at least be countered by shadow and haven
>>182584204
>>182584134
This is not how cages work.
What's the point of drawing fetish you don't even remotely understand
>>182584379
Don't reply to discord
>>182584045
so you don't want to feed her because she's transexual, fucking bigot
>>182583043
>imfuckingplying
>>182584072
>create class that sacrifices tempo and value for powerful swing turns and explosive finishers
>slowly but surely destroy any identity the class once had by giving zero (0) support over multiple expansions
>eventually just say fuck it and turn the class into tempocurvefirstverse anyway
Why does Cygames hate Forest so much?
>>182584685
cygames never cared about their game
>>182584685
Blame roach, forest can't get good cards because of it.
>>182583884
That's not really a good argument when the entire front page of the shadowverse steam page is full of negative reviews now.
>>182584797
>everyone else gets OP shit that goes literally unpunished
>albert, eachtar, spawn
>but god forbids roach becomes a thing again
does KMR still have PTSD from losing to interns playing roach or something?
>>182584851
Well the game is shit now, so the reviews are accurate.
>>182581819
what deck is he playing?does he have 3 of everything?
>>182584851
did I imply that shadowverse is a good game? nigga I already uninstalled that shit the 2nd day of WD
I'm just here for the memes
>>182584685
>create a class that sacrifices early to get to the late stage faster
>Endgame cards sucks
>eventually just say fuck it and turn the class into a meme
Why does Cygames hates Dragon so much?
>>182584685
They realized they had no idea how to balance Forest after it stayed tier for over half of the game's lifespan and just nerfed it to death and gave up on it.
>>182585084
Theres endgame in shadowverse?
>>182584851
100% deserved
>>182585271
*tier 1
>>182585084
>endgame
>in gamesaredecidedatturn4verse
lmao
>>182584685
It's the same thing with Rune. Original combo class that they have been pushing towards the same tempo/midrange shit everyone else has.
I think they just hate combo decks because it's what every shitter cries about.
>>182584906
Because Roach is uninteractive. Eachtar you need a full board before they can kill you on turn 7 while Albert you have to wait until turn 9 with an unspent evo point to do 10 damage. Roach will outright kill you on turn 6 or 7 unless you ward up and they'll just wait until your wards are gone to otk you from max health.
>>182584134
I find this arousing and I don't want to
>>182585719
What was Run OTK? Dshift?
>>182585941
>he is still losing to roach all the time
how?
Which cards were nerfed most recently? I'd like to cash in/ cry if I missed out.
>>182586427
D-shift was basically Runes only real deck until RoB.
>>182585719
I want more combos. Combo is my favorite archetype and I'm sad it's fairly limited.
>>182585941
>combo decks kill you with burst damage combos
Wow
>>182586592
Last card that was nerfed was shadow reaper
>trying to play my old daria deck to try and scrape a rune win for a daily
>Daria's old vomiting bullshit can't contest the play on curve neutral shit in every game
Never thought I'd see the day. What's the go to rune deck? Dirt? I'm missing 2 Oz and 3 young levis for it.
>>182585941
>turn 6 or 7
Are you stuck in RoB or something?
>turn 6
Nah, you are just retarded
>>182585941
>roach killing you on turn 6/7
>thinks it can even reach anywhere near OTK damage on those turns
>>182586570
It's probably "muh aegis" haven player. Even after getting all the insane value cards they are still angry about 5% playrate forest.
Two more weeks until KMR disappoints you.
Thank you.
>>182586842
Neutral Rune is pretty good. It's just the standard Neutral core + Mutagenic Bolt, Witch of Sweets and Falise.
>>182586781
nice anon, thank you
>>182586909
Roach can actually OTK on turn 7 though, but it's absurdly unlikely and it shouldn't even be taken into consideration.
>>182586592
Test of Strength, Prince Catacomb, and Shadow Reaper I think. But it might be over now
>>182584851
it's accurate since this game became shit
So I don't have any Darias and I'm missing 3 young levis. How am I supposed to get 4 wins on AA rank as Rune? Been at this for 39mins already and I'm starting to get really pissed off.
>>182586931
Honestly as an aegis player I fucking fear playing against forest. B&B is basically Aegis earlier that I just can't remove. I think that people are sleeping a lot in forest, twin elf is fucking amazing and the neutral package works like a charm with them. Blood is simply too strong right now but forest cna use neutral pretty well too and I'd say that they got the best interection cards with them after the vampires.
>>182586931
I really don't understand how people can still be bitching about roach 2 and a half expansions later. It's like they have refused to change their deck since standard or something.
Are we alive?FUSHIGI NO SEKAISUTEKI NA SEKAI
>>182587325
Stop doing your dailies in ranked.
>>182587325
Why are you doing dailies on Ranked? Just play Neutral or DShift on Unranked.
>spawn dingbat can't into beating khawy even though I misplayed him
>has no way to killing minthe because blew all his evolves because muh spawn
>LEAVES A FUCKING LURCHING CORPSE ON THE FIELD FOR 7 TURNS
Oh god, I can taste the stupidity.
He literally BKB'd me 3 times, not once did he clear the lurching.
>>182587325
1- Go full Neutral
2- Craft fucking Levis
3- Don't do either and reroll
4- Kill yourself
I'd say 4
>>182587459
kys shadownigger
>>182587550
t.spawnnigger
>>182587390
I have 1 ranked daily, one rune daily and one evolve 3 times daily.
>>182587360
You can blackened B&B when you bring it down to 3 health. You really shouldn't be losing to forest as haven, elana destroys forest if they don't draw perfectly, but drawing perfectly is good for any deck.
>>182587325
Just play d-shit in unranked and concede until you get matched with a hag-fag.
>>182587360
I agree that Neutral Forest is pretty strong. The amount of games I've lost to ETA alone or to a B&B that I couldn't remove is way too high. Everytime I see Forest I wish it is just Roach.
>>182587459
>LURCHING CORPSE
I never clear them either. What's he going to do with his stronk 1 attack? Him and attendant are hilarious. Nice way to throw your fucking tempo through the window idiot, my fucking goblins are already 3/4
>>182587610
>You can blackened B&B when you bring it down to 3 health
It has 10 health. You think I have strong followers before Aegis?
Also, are you sure that I can blacken it? I honestly don't know because I never brought them beyond 7 life but the description says outright that spells and effects don't work.
>Implying I'm playing Elana
>>182587638
ETA is such bullshit. They killed my fucking board at turn 5 and I had a god damn evolved tiger + doggo. Of course it didn't target my shitty bird
>sleeping on hedgehogs
>going face
Feels exactly like winning with mushushu
>>182587978
I honestly don't know how that works at all. It's a fucking 1/3 at turn two. It's like leaving yurius alive, retarded people.
>>182587941
>Also, are you sure that I can blacken it? I honestly don't know because I never brought them beyond 7 life but the description says outright that spells and effects don't work.
Yes.
Description says that they can't be damaged or destroyed by spells or effect but everything else still work.
>haven't played in a while
>do a few arena games
>jump back into ranked with a jank Shadow Ded Moroz deck
>neutralshit
>neutralshit
This is worse than Hearthstone
>>182587941
Just tech Acolyte's Light in, barely anyone plays Forest
>>182586909
t4 EPM evo
t5 Feena evo
t6 DoD something
t7 Roach for 17, 19 with evo
Keep in mind roach could easily get chip damage in if it was the aggro build, t6 kills were normal
>>182587360
Muh ETA
ffs that shit is unreliable unless you play neutral but then you are left with a "forest" deck,forest is fucking dead
>>182587941
It can be banished or transformed you obviously don't play against it much
>>182588373
I think you're missing quite a few steps there
>>182588373
You're missing the part where you're dead to the neutral engine by turn 5.
>>182588503
Ah yes, needing to have 1 roach and 1 bounce in hand, how could I forget?
Most of the times you were roaching for 8-12 damage anyways, which was piss easy even for the braindead. You didn't need to rely on monster burst unless you were running the OTK version with WotF and Selwyns and shit.
>>182587941
>haven players don't know what to do if something can't be themised
Ah
83426
need a concede please. stay after if you need one too.
>>182587627
This meta is fucking disgusting. This game deserves to die. Something or someone is fucking up the game. Until that is dealt with, it will just get worse and worse. I cannot stand this meta of 70% win rate for one deck type, and 30% win rate split across 5 other crafts.
>>182588746
>Were
Lad, we're talking about now, not RoB
>>182588797
Thank you
>>182588785
Thank you Garuda
>>182588373
>7+ card combos with multiple evolutions
>actually mentioning pre-nerf RoB when we're talking about current decks
>meanwhile blood has tutorable 2-card OTKs on turn 7 and you're stupid enough to think Roach is a problem
>>182588328
>complaining when playing with Shadow
Fuck off.
>Every game no matter the class is uuga buuga bullshit with the neutral package
I'm actually amazed that you could fuck a game up so hard. All these classes have a unique mechanic, I know, why don't we make every class use the exact same fucking cards?
>>182589192
Roach at its best before the Gobu nerf, isn't as fucked as
>Turn 1 Goblin
>Turn 2 Unica/Lyriel
>Turn 3 GOBLIN
>Turn 4 Alice
>>182584906
What are you talking about?
Sword hasn't been good at all in post-DE.
Shadow got literally nothing new this xpac
Blood won't get anything next xpac.
>>182588390
Every Forest deck plays ETA. Every class would do the same and play Into the Looking Glass with ETA if they could.
ETA is fucking retarded.
>>182589359
>Sword hasn't been good at all in post-DE.
Are you actually retarded? Midrange Sword was the best laddering deck in post-nerf RoB.
>>182589354
Neutral was a mistake. I was saying this shit long before WoD came into being. It was a mistake since the game's inception. You saw the beginnings of the terrible mistake it was with Wallet Dragon last expansion, how putting tons of broken shit ANYONE could use was a BAD. FUCKING. IDEA.
But now you fucks are finally seeing what I knew, because I played CCG's since Magic, and Magic had the same fucking problem with it's artifact shit allowing incredibly broken deck types to emerge because it could be splashed into any deck with no consequences, and some crafts are simply not supposed to have options like this for game balance reasons.
>>182588746
>still losing to roach 2 expansions after it stops being relevant
Yikes, also you are a retard since you think only a roach and a bounce are needed, that is only 3 damage for 5pp you need also Evo cards like epm or feena for set up beforehand for zero costs. It's typical of retards to complain about roach 2 expansions later while not even knowing how it works
>>182589572
>Midrange Sword was the best laddering deck in post-nerf RoB
>being "good" for 2 weeks before a complete meta change means you're good
Fucking retarded, every last one of you.
>>182589572
>forgetting people losing their mind over sword 60% winrate
>>182588390
Just like Hector. So unreliable :^)
>muh forest
You are still trying some old shit from standar or RoB right?
>>182588485
Well, yeah. When it appears I autolose. Maybe my deck is just weak against it, I don't need to tech because they are pretty rare, but it's good info for the future
>>182588772
Tell me your craft m8 I can meme harder
>>182589894
yes
>getting lethal thanks to mutagenic'd Spawn
>>182588390
>that shit is unreliable unless you play neutral
So, tove?
Card having a downside doesn't count if a downside is a non-issue in 100% of the cases the card is played.
>>182589757
1) I mentioned the evo cards in an earlier post
2) I was talking about roach at it's peak
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/885624730316926976
Do you?
Fuck this game and fuck you people.
I'm out.
>>182591098
>reddit spacing
>>182590887
Oh wow, they actually retweeted a post that's giving them shit about Neutral Blood. I missed that.
Casino deck list anyone?
>>182590887
based intern kun
Been doing nothing but losing the entire game and I'm getting so frustrated
Fuck aegis
Fuck spawn
Fuck eachtar
>>182591875
what are you playing anon?
>>182591875
>losing to T9 do nothing
>>182592029
>implying haven doesn't have the means to save an evo point for turn 9 via tribunals, judges and themis for a 10/10 undestroyable rush turn 9 into double baha lethal
>>182592183
>turn
>nine
>do
>nothing
>>182592286
epic meme
>>182592029
Golly gee aegis sure would be a decent card in a archetype with every remove and stall mechanic in the game that allows them to save their evo points
Oh gosh oh geez
>>182592029
>>182592286
>second strongest deck in the game is suddenly not strong
>the real problem is d-shift and roach fuck those cards killing me when I drop Aegis
t. Hagfag
>>182591989
Control sword because it is the only fucking deck I can enjoy this expac
Neutral shell is to boring, I hate playing spawn blood, burn rune also feels like fucking trash.
It is all unthinking playing your curve hit the face decks
>>182592416
>>182592337
>>182592183
>>182591875
>>182592490
Literal D0s
the game is getting faster and faster
right now the meta is literally concede by T4 because there's no way to recover from a perfect curve
and you're complaining about a 10/10 T9 do nothing brick
>>182592286
>meanwhile you have 8 turns of doing nothing as haven destroys your board every turn unless you're full unga
>then haven just heals off your unga via bunga
>then comes big fat UNGA DUNGA himself to hit your face twice to end the game
>>182592607
>Haven is the only other thing in masters/grandmasters being used aside from spawn blood
Literal beginner here
>>182592607
>neutral core engine with aegis finisher with havens healing and removal
Your play anon.
>>182592607
>can't win with a good deck like aegis
>no way it's my fault this deck is SHIT
fucking shitters
>>182551856
>tove
is now 3/2
>goblin leader
spawns at start of turn, dunno why it wasn't already like this, but whatever
I don't think BKB or Scarlet are gonna get nerfed.
Bephomet
>can now enhance at (4)
>but only gives you 6p+ -2
so spawn only at t7 rather than t6. not sure what else you could do without ruining the card
>>182592607
>he thinks control isn't viable right now when neutral shit is actually removable unlike shadowkike cancer from last expansion
Beginner 0?
Oh look I won
>tfw wyrm god's effect multipiles evolve
>>182593405
>going second
Nice try.
>>182593405
>2nd
no you didnt
>>182593521
>>182593535
LOL
>>182593481
>burn rune
>can't burn shit
the hell?
>fight 3 spawn bloods
>all turn 5 Baph
>all turn 6 Spawn
>lethal them all the turn after they drop spawn
>all of them disconnect in rage
Heh...nothin' personnel spawnsuckers
>>182593664
I baha'd his essences on turn 5
>>182593615
>actually took a screenshot of beating PtP forest
>>182593615
Please stop shitposting with Sword, you have Blood for that
>>182593768
>baha on turn 5
well there's no way one can recover from that amount of ramping
>>182594059
I got beat by a turn 5 satan a few minutes ago.
>>182584851
>decide to check steam review page of shadowverse
>most of the recent reviews this month are negative
>mostly people ranging from 200~600+ hours of gameplay
Surely free packs will solve the problem.
>>182593765
>all turn 5 Baph
>all turn 6 Spawn
>lethal them all the turn after they drop spawn
so they were retarded
>>182593879
>>182593926
Hey guy I was just proving my point to the people who said I lost cause I went 2nd
thanks, lads, it was fun
>>182594248
>I proved my point
>by showing everyone I can beat PtP Forest when going 2nd
Woah, so this is the power... of going 2nd
Alice can't get enough gobbo dick!
>>182594191
I tyranted 1 of them and dragonewt'd the other 2.
I don't care how much damage I take bloodbabs, if you have nothing on turn 6 to hit and can't lethal me with your board I know I've won, you'll always save evo for spawn.
>make MR deck that does ok vs spawn
>fight nothing but aegis haven with tribunal/themis/healing
>make aggro deck that does ok vs spawn
>fight nothing but elena haven
you fucking turds are the reason why they made spawn in the first place
>>182594059
imho wyrm god seems scarier than zell combo
>They realize that the game is decided by curve
>Add cards that create random cards to counter that
>Game becomes RNGstone
>>182594847
ramp dragon shits on literally everything if they ramp just right
>>182594847
>turn 5
That's turn 6
>>182594847
she's way slower though.
>>182594501
>I took my screenshot of my hand claiming I won
>hurr no you didn't you went 2nd lol
>still playing the game
>take the screenshot of the opponent conceding
>proved them wrong
I wasn't even trying to claim that going second was good or anything, the entire was that my curve was so insane that my opponent couldn't do anything about it. He just dropped that ptp because he gave up but if it were any other card that forest usually runs he would have lost anyway. I couldn't care less if my opponent is playing a shitty deck or not I was just showing the guys who said I lost that I actually won. Don't be such a faggot about it holy shit.
>>182594873
>create a game about different classes each one with a distinct play style
>game develops into several decks, most of them competitive in ladder and played by many
>people have fun and promote the game
>cygames release the game in China and Korea
>slowly transform the game into curve shit ever since until it becomes absolute curve
>classes mean jack shit and all of them play the same now
I guess cygames wanted curvestone audience in Asia.
Chinks seem to be loving WD.
Inb4 cygames repents and makes abyss stealth effect only trigger on vengeance.
We can dream right guys?
>>182595075
If your opponent had the same hand as you but was going 1st they would've shit all over your curve. That's why people were greentexting you. Having that hand going 2nd isn't even screenshot worthy because you can easily get destroyed by any Blood deck with a decent curve. The fact that your opponent was PtP forest just made it even more hilarious.
>Spawn is hidden for 4 turns
>Fishes grimnir out of his deck on turn 10
>lose
two broken pieces of shit that'll never be nerfed.
>>182595431
Spawn is not the card that needs to be nerfed.
>>182595498
>spawn hidden for 4 turns
Why did he never attack with it
>>182595560
Waited for lethal?
>>182595553
Goblin leader, Feria, Tove and BKB first?
>>182595702
Without Baphomet Spawn is not as dangerous as it's now.
>>182595476
>If your opponent had the same hand as you
They didn't which is why they lost. Going second or me playing against blood would not have mattered. If they don't have a perfect neutral engine curve but your opponent does then you lose.
>>182595560
>>182595663
I threw a shit load of wards so he couldn't OTK me.
Those didn't matter though since they got wiped by grimnir
>>182595702
Weaken their early game significantly or kill Baphomet. Just the fact that Cat Neutral is so strong right now is proof that Spawn is not the issue with the deck.
>>182595060
Is she? Zell oftenly bricked my hand, but with 2 wyrm gods in deck i can get some control and do 18 face damage.
Can I get a concede at 42003?
>>182595498
>fucking dragon ramps to 10 pp like a madman
>drops 3 grimirs in succession
>eat my whole hand away
>end with a baha just because
For one thing I'm glad this expac killed ramp dragon. That shit was the main reason I stopped playing during ToG.
What's that one lego you just can't stop getting for each set? Erasmus, Imperial Dragoon, Gaywine and Corpselord for me, can't be much worse than that
>>182595894
>wards
>stopping spawn
Oh, I see, he had totally bricked.
>>182594767
reminder that haven is the most cancerous class in the game and every single deck or archetype that isn't haven absolutely fucking despises haven
they're the epitome of no fun allowed. not a single person has ever had fun playing against haven, and that's a fact
>>182595940
This, I can easily win at turn 6 going first with neutral cat, Spawn can't even get into the field.
Though I do think that a couple of other cards should be nerfed too, like CoCK (to 6 PP), Maisy (to 3/3 evoed) and such.
dog is streaming again
>>182596143
Front guard general my dude
I could have easily beaten his brick if I ever drew my roland.
>>182596146
I have fun playing against Havenwhen I play Dshift
>>182587978
>angry hedgehogs noises
Sonic is cute and Strong!
>>182596272
>you were sword
He could have just rammed spawn into you and whittled you down because LMAO no healing for sword.
>>182595987
Thank you, those GM sleeves sure are pretty.
>>182596119
>That shit was the main reason I stopped playing during ToG.
Same here, I came back when I heard they nerfed it though.
>>182596146
pretty much this >>182596292
haven will never become a thing (except storm of course) because of DShift
nobody likes playing against DShift. Its much worse than haven
specially because these shitters need to spend the entire turn thinking just to play an insight
intentionally or not
Got blood dailies and I have no spawn or belphegor, just aggro bats. Is there something I could play to get them done? I also have no Alice, but 2 Carabosse.
>>182596139
Beast Dominator, Matriarch, Hulking Giant, Deepwood and Jabberwock
>>182589202
>complaining about shadow in a bloddniggers meta
What is the matter faggot? Balanced man raped you one too many times during ToG?
>>182596459
Search for some Carabosse deck.
>>182595882
>still completely misses the point
It's not about what actually happened you moron. It's about the fact that you're stupid enough to think that hand is game-winning when it can easily get shut down by the player going first.
>If they don't have a perfect neutral engine curve but your opponent does then you lose.
Blood doesn't even remotely need a perfect curve to beat that. Literal D0 insights.
>>182596459
Aggro bats is still decent. Don't expect to win against the T1 blood or haven decks, but you have a decent change against anything else. Carabosse should help, since my deck does fine and I don't even have her.
>>182596241
>doesn't kills wights first
Who is this scrub?
Not by any means an Elf, Daria, Alberto or Negromancer apologist but Jesus this is the worst meta we'eve ever had.
>>182596513
People still complain about roach two and a half expansions later
>>182596459
You could just aggro bats with carabosse.
Funnier if you throw in baph to pull Cara and make people think you have spawn. It really scares folks.
>>182596373
Yeah this upsets me the most.
Every other class has gotten different archetypes as well as mechanics their class shouldn't have.
But the question is, should sword get a new archetype instead of throwing things on curve and overwhelming? Should sword get draw or heal or a board wipe that isn't conditional garbage?
No.
But on another note, if you manage to mitigate damage early on with decent trades and get roland by 7 blood can't burn you down considering sword has higher value late game.
>>182596513
>haha can't u forget 3 months of the same shit bro???
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
>>182591717
You may spend mad money on Casino dragon, try to fill the board and by turn 8 you jabbermeme into 2 zeus and 2 genesis dragon for an overkill OTK.
>want neutralshit and blood to be nerfed asap
>then remind myself ramp dragon, midshadow, aegis haven and dshift still exist
>>182596812
You going neutral sword or commandercraft
>>182596452
haven and d.shift are the reasons why we have to deal with some of the dumbest shit cygames have thrown at us for the past 2-3 expacs
>d.shit and haven counter control
>gives you aggro/auto t7 win legendaries or ramp so people can actually win
all the design issues in this stupid game goes back to haven and d.shift
>>182596241
>playing as beginner
why do these western fucks do this
are there literally no western master/GM streamer?
>>182596743
Can you craft neutral Cat? It doesn't uses almost any card of aggro bat, but the only gold it uses is 3 Cats
>>182596459
Not that guy, but it's still infuriating to get OTK'd by roach, specially when the opponent spends 2 whole minutes playing fairies and returning them to their hands. I'll much rather lose to Dragon since it only plays one card per turn
>>182596890
Shadow was nerfed twice, fuck off
>>182596890
>complaining about dshift
Why people hate it? It is so fun to play and brick with it.
>>182597083
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
>>182597097
kys runetumour
>>182597097
>why people hate
>why do people hate when they arent allowed to play the game
???
>>182597379
You can play the game, the fact that I can control you and build up my win condition is your problem not mine.
>>182597097
>play nothing
>win
it's a terrible, terrible design decision
i'm actually looking forward to formats/sets where we won't have to deal with d.shit or elena
>>182597058
Wouldn't I have to craft 3 Alices for it?
>>182597449
you sound autistic
>>182597449
>getting my turn skipped, which in all means not being able to do anything, is playing the game
>>182597575
It can work without Alice, its just not as consistent.
Can I get a concede please?
78649
>>182597097
Kill yourself, subhuman.
>>182597473
>complaining about elana
hmm...
>Get the core of the nut draw
>Nothing I do matters because his cancer is too virulent to match
I regret every day I found this game
>>182597749
Gotta admit though perfect curve elana is stupidly powerful right now.
>>182597707
Thank you!
Nice sleeves btw.
>>182597749
if it's elena it auto counters all aggro
if it's aegis it auto counters all control
and then someone in between you have d.shit lurking to rape the bottom-feeders. all of this is a design of terrible game design, that explains why the last 2-3 expacs have given out OP shit just so crafts aren't held down by these 3
>>182596923
Commander
I don't run support cannon or anything, but I rely on making trades early on with rush followers or my 2pp spells
>>182597894
>hungering Horde
get fucked lmao
Reminder that we might get the leader poll results tomorrow.
>>182584906
I'm fine with roach falling away, my beef with kikegames is that that are just so, so, so many interesting combos in forest and you can't play them because virtually everything that is meta is on-curve from hand powerhouse cards. Non roach/bolt Forest simply doesn't work in a 40 card deck
Gentlemen, how do we fix shadowverse?
>>182597058
If you are losing to roach a lot your deck sucks badly, nothing more to say other than you should be able to expect their damage based on the number of zero costs the have
>>182598468
Either change almost every card released so far or formats
>>182598468
By uninstalling it.
>>182598468
Formats.
>>182598468
Make 1st turn less advantageous.
>>182572382
I kept telling you guys about Shardbound. Im pretty happy playing it.
>>182598468
Build a time machine? There's too much damage. The only thing that can save it now is releasing something like an 800 both re-release of updated cards and the ones the other base archetypes never got Standard II balanced around the new bullshit curve they've done
>>182598468
A full expansion of just buffs/nerfs to try and fix all the powercreep issues.
>>182598468
I want to marry demon eater!
>>182598403
Roach is really the only playable combo card in forest, a lot of the """""combo""""" cards are just understated play 2 cards to get a mediocre buff
>>182598468
you don't
either formats radically change the game, or...it dies. there's too much dumb shit going on between 1st/2nd turn. if you play this game expecting anything genuinely competitive post DE, you're a fool.
>>182598468
Remove shadowcraft as a whole and the game starts healing itself.
>>182598836
I tried this out the other week and I got matched against a faggot deck that put down some kind of amulet thing that summoned a 1/1 for my opponent at the end of each of his turns. And he had TWO of those.
What a fucking faggot.
>>182598037
>if it's elena it auto counters all aggro
>if it's aegis it auto counters all control
This.
Fuck haven to hell. They exist to be a pain the ans for everyone.
>>182598468
remove shadow and swordcraft, they are the cancer that killed the gaem
>>182599410
Haven really is the no fun allowed class
>>182598984
I want Demon Eater to look at me with disgust.
>>182598468
CUTE LITTLE HUGS WITH DEMON EATER!
>>182598037
>>182599410
>>182599668
>>182599803
CUTE LITTLE FUGS WITH DEMON EATER!
>>182598037
>if it's aegis it auto counters all control
We've gone through this millions of times already. The shit that auto-counters Control is DShift. The only thing Aegis counters is Grinder decks, which are already dead because they got 0 support since Cygames doesn't want them to exist due to muh salaryman. The only Grinder deck left is non-Storm Ramp Dragon. Other Grinder decks, like Grinder Dirt and CBlood, were already almost dead and buried on RoB. The only reason people even played CBlood in RoB was because of the Daria match up, but the deck lost against pretty much everything else. ToG giving them nothing good just finished them, the decks were just not viable.
Control decks with a wincon, like Seraph, Control Sword and Spawn CBlood, can win through or regardless of Aegis. The card doesn't hard counter them in the slightest.
>>182599901
>Everyone that dislikes my cancer anti fun class plays Shadow!
Pathetic.
>>182599410
The funniest thing is Elana can be both Elana AND Aegis so you really only have this awkward moment around turns 6-9 to kill them before they just become unbeatable
So all they need to about 2 themis at that time and they win.
>>182599410
>>182599668
At least Garuda is honest.
>>182599929
But you can't do that!
>>182598037
Yup. Dshift and Haven in general sum up every issue with the game and the reason why it's the shit show it is now. This game will literally never be enjoyable until that kind of shit is removed via set rotation or card bans.
>>182600063
I don't think people actually complain about Garuda, is Control Heaven with Aegis and retarded Elena that trigger people.
>UNGA WHY DOES A CONTROL DECK PLAY A CONTROL GAME BUNGA
>>182600268
>''people''
shadowkikes are subhumans
>>182600056
Funny how haven used to suck against dragon but thanks to aegis and tribunal shit it's just impossible unless you play with nothing but storm units.
>>182600063
Garuda was the original daria bro.
>>182598468
If they changed everything back to standard and never release blatantly overstated cards like garuda, beast call, otohime, piercing rune, khawy, daria, sibyl, etc or "do everything" cards like albert, eachtar, zombie party, grimnir etc this game would be better than perfect
>>182600380
>ugh like GOD why can't I just play my uncounterable card and win? I like literally can't even right now *vapes*
>>182600408
Yes yes controlbab, everyone you disagree with is certainly part of the shadow boogeyman
>>182600380
>wow...fucking aggro/curveverse sucks so much cock
>why is control not viable still ughhh
>wait why are these 2 control decks viable i don't like them
>control is ruining the fucking game
>>182600727
/svg/ in a nutshell.
>ranked against neutral blood (Tove, baphomet and goblin mage)
>left him at 11 for one last push with him at 6pp
>Ambling Wraith into Revelation
I still won, but fuck this literal shit.
ETA nerf when? 2pp killed tove and grimnir
>>182600823
>running ambling wrath and goblin mage
My god you fought a retard.
>>182600056
Have is the reason people have to basically otk from hand with storm shit because they just clear your board forever and then drop aegis
>>182600056
>Elana can be both Elana AND Aegis
>give class with fuckloads of healing and removal the most broken board-buffing amulet in the game
>allow it to buff even when overhealing
>have to kill them before their board becomes 50/50s but you cant pressure their life because their deck is all healing
>can't keep the board clear because any new creatures immediately triple their stats
>also give this exact same craft the single most broken late-game card that has ever and will ever exist in any CCG
>wonder why the game devolves into OTKs and turn 4 lethal unga bunga shitfest
really spellboosts your dshifts
>>182600823
just play around vengeance bro
>>182600682
>this work was deleted
no wonder i never saw that beatiful isa before
>>182600727
wait control decks are viable again?
Can they actually net wins or is it more of the "this deck kinda almost counters this tier 1 deck but auto loses to everything else" viable like last time?
>>182600987
Pure Elana was never fucking relevant and it's still an inconsistent highroll deck, you retarded unga. It's not the thing that shaped the meta to be what it is.
>>182601139
>hagfags making excuses for a control class getting a miracle deck that triggers off of healing
even if elana has a 0% winrate it still deserves to be deleted from the game
>>182601106
Nothing is viable besides Neutral Blood.
Burn Dirt, Control Sword and Aegis are the closest things to a Neutral Blood counter, so there is your answer.
>>182600882
Two weeks.
>>182600882
>losing as blood
>losing to elf
>>182601318
Yeah, bro. I hate playing against Discard Dragon. I guess that deck deserves to be deleted as well right?
Unga bunga for you too, fellow face hitting friend.
>>182601318
>remember the 6 billion
>still playing shadowverse
nerf elena to 5pp
>>182600882
Hopefully never, kill yourself bloodnigger.
>>182599000
Yeah but that can be fixed. Amulet slots enable refuge/band. 3pp festival helps cforest. A fairy trait and fairy stacking, option for larger deck sizes. etc.
>>182600882
>only good card forest got in months
Yeah, no.
Why are so many of these hyper removal attrition shadow decks showing up in unranked? They lose to blood but rape me whenever I'm doing dragon or forest dailies.
>>182601590
Not that guy but come on, other than D-shift I can't stand losing my time playing against Elana Haven with Aegis. Unless you enjoy getting Tribunal-Temis-Tribunal back to back into Aegis.
nerf yurius
>t7 khawy
>t8 khawy
>t9 khawy
FUCK OFF
75344
Need help for daily please and thank you I cum inside.
>>182602574
>T10 Rise of the dead + Khawy
I did that once.
>>182601106
Even if control decks becomes viable again they can't win against Aegis and dshift anyway.
Either you deal with early game bullshit of forced turn 10 end game.
>>182602689
thx vampy i came inside
>>182602170
Band is actually very bad since it happens at the end of your turn BUT also something like goblin leader that spawns a goblin at the end of your turn will not count since the amulet checks your board first then goblin will spawn so it doesn't proc. It's a lot harder to keep 4 different named followers on the board while band costs 3pp which is way too high anyway.
Maybe you could play like 4 1pp cost cards like fairy, may, water fairy, goblin the turn after but that would require filling your deck with a ton of 1 cost cards and you would basically auto lose if you couldn't draw band and 4 unique followers early.
The only really okay amulet they have is brambles but then that's only 2 turns and your units don't even keep the buff when it expires.
>Cygames admits that they "nerfed" Aegis by changing ToS's effect because only literal D0s were having trouble with it
>they did it despite Aegis being a non-issue in Masters
>/svg/ continues to bitch about Aegis
If you ever needed proof regarding the skill level of most people here, all the evidence is right here.
>>182603031
my god you cracked the code. where do I line up for your autograph?
>>182602925
Sukuna or Abby get around the t4 impact
Have you read your bible today?
>>182603031
>Aegis wasn't good last expansion so it will always be bad forever
see >>182592959 you idiot
>>182603031
Because people in masters play aggro since they just want to farm points faster?
Doesn't change the fact aegis kills control decks and even dshift now that haven has Naoise.
>playing Alice buffs neuts in play
>Evo Alice buffs neuts in hand
Will this fix her?
>>182603031
>aegis is bad
are you just pretending?
>end turn
>30s later opponent's turn begins
Fuck you and your shit internet
>>182603031
That people stopped playing non-hyper aggressive cancer decks doesn't change that Aegis kicks the shit out of the decks it does, having a very negative impact on the meta in the process
>>182603278
I don't know why you would play either of those cards, but you have to spend your turn 3 doing nothing when you want to play band.
>>182603483
No because the damage is already done
La la la la~
>>182603031
>nerfed ToS Aegis combo because of D0 babs having issues on it
>they did it despite (ToS) Aegis being a non-issue in Masters
>Svg continues to bitch about Aegis
pick one card you fucking retard
>>182603751
Because muh 18 stats, 4 body t4 board
>people complaining about elana
>People complaint about Aegis
Who let the b3's out of their cage?
>>182601106
If cards were printed today:
Odin: 7 cost 5/6, banish a target enemy follower/amulet and all of the same name in play/deck.
>>182603848
You need 4 different named bodies on board and if you are playing two two costs you are assuming 2 cards from turn 1 and 2 are still there since you skipped turn 3 to play band.
>>182603878
>I play neutral blood so those don't affect me huehuehuehue
>>182603417
No, people in Masters are good enough to win games before or after a turn 9 do nothing in a game that is literally made to end before turn 9/10. It's people in lower ranks that end up in super long duels because both players are unable to build decks properly or make the right plays in order to win.
>>182603507
What decks does Aegis dominate? Even my Leonidas deck does well against Aegis since Roland is there and turn 9/10 Albert easily finishes games after a Aegis is dropped.
>>182603483
the only thing i would want from a nerf is multiple alices to not stack together, literallly shadowbab tier retarded
i mean can anyone defend this?
>>182603842
Aegis had 49% winrate according to Cygames themselves.
>>182603031
>how dare you insult the thinking man's deck!
kill yourself
>>182604083
>people in Masters are good enough to win games before or after a turn 9 do nothing in a game that is literally made to end before turn 9/10
Are stupid or just pretending?
>>182604017
Keep projecting my man
>>182604284
I'm not your man, faggot.
Concede plz
88292
>>182604113
ToG meta dumbass.
The instant shadow dropped eachtar the game was over. Blood is actually much slower when it doesn't get 123alicebapho curve
Crashing this meta.
>>182604405
Thank you carabosse
>>182604492
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
Guys Aegis is terrible right now that's why it represents all the tournaments picks aside from Neutral Blood
>>182604083
>What decks does Aegis dominate?
Grinder Ramp Dragon with no wincon. That's it.
The only thing Aegis (the card) is good for is being a wincon that requires no deck dedication and allows you to play more Control tools and tech against the meta harder. That's why ToG Aegis builds and completely different from current Aegis builds. It's a card that allows you to play anti-meta.
90% of the time Haven wins with Aegis it's because they managed to completely stabilize and gain full control of the match by playing a control game (like any other Control deck would), which would already be a win regardless of Aegis. Aegis is just the game closer that makes sure Haven won't take 15 turns to actually finish their opponent, since that would annoy salarymen.
>>182604582
>comparing the meta to tournaments
>>182604715
see
>>182592959 you retard
>>182604582
>le turn 9 do nuthing lelelele
>kicked the shit out bloodniggers last nip tourney
Retards here are still stuck in TotG apparently. I don't think they even touched this expac yet.Can't blame them.
>>182604582
Guys, Aegis does well (not even 50% winrate) against the literal t0 deck running around; therefore, it's seeing lots of play. That must mean it's overpowered!
>>182601139
>just land elana on t3
>highroll
hagfags are this delusional
Why even have fucking classes if everyone is neutral cancer?
Why have other tempo decks when neutral is better in every way?
You can only use cards depicting characters you would have sex with.
What deck do you play?
>>182604790
the only thing I see is ching chong nip nong and shadow at 60% winrate like the cancer it was
>>182604954
see
>>182592959 you retard
>>182605059
scrap that, I'm retarded. thought the image was from ToG
Can anyone concede to me for the private match quest?
27478
Not sure if you guys have a need for this, but here's some sort of manual score tracker I made. Just input the necessary data in the highlighted box to see how well you are doing.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vjyzec
>>182592959
>Aegis Haven (a control deck) has a good winrate in a meta where everyone is playing aggro
>it's actually just barely positive besides against Dragon and Shadow, what is already expected
What's the fucking issue?
>>182605248
literal autism
>>182605048
So they can powercreep the fuck out of every other class next expansion.
>>182605348
Where do you think you are?
>>182605306
>positive winrate against literally everything but blood
>th-there's no issue at all
>>182604660
It does well against most classes actually. cards like Naoise made the csword battle which used to be nearly impossible thanks to Roland now actually not too bad since the turn 9 Albert can be averted. Also the new elana support made the combo stronger and less dependent on dropping followers with heal one by one. Tenko can heal multiple times, Odile can heal at the end of the turn etc.
Like the chart shows what pushes haven down is neutral blood for obvious reasons.
Only animated cards I got this expansion
>>182605058
Sword full commander deck.
>Opponent plays spawn
>Esmeralda's literally anything you do to block it
>Evo spawn and esmeralda for twenty fucking damage
What did motherfucking kikegames mean by this? What the actual fuck do they expect me to do? They aren't dshift, I can't just rush them down against the insane control the deck has. I can't board them. I can't ward them. Just play a different class and whale for gold/legos is fucknig amazing kikes
Spawn takes more skill to pilot than ToG dragon and shadow.
>>182605693
>Roland is a great counter to spawn
>they forsee it and print emeralda
>kikes
Seriously, why don't you fags stay in their containment board?
>>182605750
t. Bloodfag
Yes, both have a 2PP with 3.5PP worth of stat. Fuck you.
What's a set of 7 budget daily decks that works in WD?
>>182605750
Like fucking what? They remove your board then win
>>182605750
>>182605750
The only choice you make is whether or not to evo and attack with spawn or have it sit there
>>182605580
>Elana
If you are going to base yourself on Shadowlog stats to talk about Aegis, go look at Elana's stats as well.
The deck having ways to highroll harder doesn't change the fact that it is inconsistent as fuck. It's the same deck it's ever been, it just makes bigger numbers now because of Tenko.
>>182605873
>spawn requires skill
>>182605592
>1 eta
kiss me luckshitter
>The more I see bloodcancers using Vampy skin the more I'm starting to hate her
I really want to strangle her
>>182606139
Claudia has always been a cancer leader.
>>182606116
I have one too, do I get a kiss?
>>182605972
Elana without Aegis sucks and that's obvious. I'm talking about the combo.
>>182606116
O-okay
>>182606139
>>182606196
As Vampy's bloodkin I cannot allow such disparage.
Fight me.
>>182606258
Elana Aegis is just a worse Aegis deck.
>>182606329
fuck off back to discord
>>182606238
No, you get a nice dinner and then I'll walk you to your door before passionately embracing you and whispering in to your earthat forest is shit tier and Arisa is a garbage character.
>>182606347
It's better against aggro decks. Still sucks against neutral aggro apparently.
>>182606238
I'll kiss you
>>182606538
It had a chance to be, I dunno, a sliver deck, I've never played mtg, but holy shit does deck and board size murder forest.
>>182606116
>>182606238
>>182606287
>>182606862
HOMOS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THIS BREAD
>>182607074
>hagfags are racist homophobes
gee who would've thunk?
>>182607074
i'm not homosexual though.
>>182607294
>racist
he never said anything about that matter you retarded shitposter
Cygames should just raise hp total to 30 and set vengeance to 15 or below
20 hp was fine when 4 pp 3 dmg demonic strike was a repectable nuke and a 3 pp 3/4 follower was genuinely overstatted
Now the cards have all been so powercreeped that they're even stronger than hearthstone cards on average. Look at the shit that gest played in WD meta, everything except maybe wise merman would be playable or overpowered in HS. Yet we get 10 hp less than HS.
>>182607629
With this clusterfuck meta Cycuck should buff leader HP to 30
>>182607629
Japanese salarymen are happy with the current max defense value for leaders.
Thank you.
>>182606575
>better against aggro decks
Stop insisting you can drop a 3PP do nothing in this day and age.
>>182607074
>Those gloves
>Giant butt plug
>Not homosecual
It's like you haven't looked at masked giant either or how everyone is going inside skullfane
>queue up for ranked to grind up to GM
>match up against D-Shift
What the hell? I thought the unga bunga meta was too oppressive for those solitaire buggers.
>>182607903
>Curves out perfectly
>Hag has a minimum of 2 dead turns
Gee, I wonder why
>>182605592
this is what i got
>>182607802
please stop the thankyouposting. it's triggering my rage.
>>182608317
They feed on aegis havens trying to 'counter the cancer'. Also dirtburn runes, because if you don't play followers they can't do anything with their mutas/dods/piercings.
>>182607629
We have evolves and less board than HS too.
>>182608412
>get to turn 1 and 2 plea and turn 4 and 5 cuckgel
>dead turns
It's not my fault he played like shit.
WD was a mistake.
Guys, help me out. What's a WLD deck that's:
1. Actually fun
2. Not complete shit
3. Does not involve Spawn of the Abyss in any way
I've been playing since DE and I am really, really struggling to keep playing this game. It is just fucking unbearable for me right now.
>>182608489
Thank you.
>>182608595
Hag is for domestic abuse.
>>182607629
>>182608547
Most Hearthstone damage removals can target face and board. Also, the general stats for cards is higher in HS.
Help me anon!
>>182608661
CaraBurn Aggro
>>182608661ControlSword.
Please....I....beg you....
>>182608594
Doesn't help you if you're getting eaten alive.
>>182608661
There aren't any.
The power creep has savaged the viable decklists
Haha good luck.
>>182608829
No.
>>182608595
What the hell can you play that does 11 by turn 3?
>>182608829
____ ______, ___!
>>182608661
Just take a break from the game, everyone who has ever played a card game took a break from it at some point in time. Set the rewards to single player and only touch the game for logins. Wait a week or two and then you will be re-energized enough to play normally and the nerfs to blood decks will be right around the corner. That's what I'm doing right now and I only check out these threads once in a while instead of all the time.
>>182608874
Just got a Cara in a pack earlier. Hit me up with a list for that shit, I'll craft the other two. I don't give a fuck right now.
>>182608941
I could do it with Bats before WD. It's not that hard really.
>>182608941
Aggro bats.
>>182608661
Just solo it until the end of the month. There's no point in playing in a legit tier 0 meta.
>>182608684
STOP
>>182609159
y-you too
>>182608661
Elana Haven and Burn Rune are the only decks I can stomach this format.
>>182609159
>>182609183
>tfw no blonde thicc Eris cosplaying GF to creampie for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
>>182608998
This works