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>Dark Souls was the only one with metroidvania world design
Why did they give up?

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Damn, Fume knight is tough bastard

>>182359802
Can confirm, was in the game in the post dlc release

anyone else having major problems with lock on in das3? wont lock on to anything more than 10 feet away, locks onto the wrong enemy constantly, and more often than the other two, will just swivel the camera around in a retarded fashion when the enemy is right in front of me.

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>tfw no equivalent in DaS3

>"Haha dude Fume Knight is so hard"
>I beat him on my 2nd try
>"Alonne is really tough man"
>Beat him on my 4th try
>"Smelter Demon is ass,just a rehashed boss,easy"
>Died to him over 30 times probably
Does playing DS2 with a dex build just reverse the difficulty or something

>>182360104
not like any of the hexes are worth using LOL

>>182359691
It's some Discord promoter who keeps changing it. That's the one you ignore, the original never had a link to the Discord.

>>182359790
>metroidvania
someone please explain this buzzword to me

>>182359496
>The worst kind of anime pedophiles without a life shit the thread full everytime they beat a "hard" boss or see an invader
>"Omg what dis XD"
The sale filled the thread with even more poor sub humans

>>182360362
He means DS 1 was the only 2D platformer in the series

>>182360104
>not just using chime hexes
all the other shit isnt even worth using

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>>182360104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-_Duke1ZY
>catalysts dont have insanely high AR anymore

>>182360425
The best one wasn't even on sale tho

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>>182359790
Why put in the time, money and effort for this big interconnected world when you can just give players warping right off the bat and eliminate the need for it all together?

>>182360513
I miss DS2 pvp
is scholar of the first shekel on PC still alive? I might get back into it.

>>182360362
>buzzword
You must be 18 or older to post on this site, friend.

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What are the most fun builds to use in DS3 besides magic?

Lads what the fucking this weird think in the dungeon? It's got a human head but a fucking ridiculous body and is not attacking me.

What's the lore there?

>>182361004
it's the spooped version of that, the other ones will attack you
lore is pontiff locked his abominations there

>>182361004
Sullivan and his jailers did an experiments on prisoners, trying to make them dragons. Tey got this degenerates instead of dragons.

>>182361190
Didn't they also keep Aldrich's meals or ex-meals there, sort of a pantry to store the leftovers if he got hungry again?

>>182360976
what else should I call it? made up word that means nothing without context?

>>182360980
STR with millwood greatbow
Quality still has the most flippy anime weapons in the game, so if thats your thing its fun.
Pyro with demon scar
also did you just medium roll? I hope you didn't just medium roll in that light as fuck armor, you either go 30% or 70%

>>182361287
I like these undead being his meals now that he no longer has the road of sacrifices to feed him. But maybe now that he is after devouring gods they are left to rot since they are now useless

>>182360961
Yeah, it's still active.

>>182360362
>>182361352
>being this new to video games

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>>182360961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P1eKThZG-g
I miss when Limit made pvp videos, i guess DaS3 pvp is just that shit.

and scholar has more players on it than DaS1, not that thats saying much, combined they're barely half of the DaS3 player base.

>>182359790
PCFags complaining it was too hard. They can't beat the game without using CE to give them infinite health, items etc. I wish they could've experienced unpatched DS1. They'd probably an hero.

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>>182361681
>I wish they could've experienced unpatched DS1
>mfw Sen's bomb throwing giant

>>182361604
good to hear, I guess I'll dl and fire up my old saves. PVP experience in das3 is complete shit and I'm probably just going to drop it seeing theres no point in looking for post-game content.

>>182361491
explain how das1 is metroidvania. is it a backtracking 2d sidescroller with a hueg map?

>>182360980
stop posting your shitty webms

So, i finally got the expansions for Das3, so I'll come back to play it, and I will start a new character, but i dont need OP bullshit, I want the most fun build you can think of.

>>182362019
there are shortcuts... and stuff

>>182362391
Go Pyro :^)

>>182362391
theres nothing fun about this game

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Please offer me some words of encouragement as I attempt to bash the skull of this already brain addled qt into the incestuous wall that stands between her and the Soul of Cinder

This gentlemen, is how real men make twink builds

>DaS2 did fashion souls right
>tfw playing DaS3 and your neck shows on most of the shit

>>182362391
>I want the most fun build you can think of
>das3
Uninstall wizzard
Das 3 is very polished gamo have fe, but it's hard to have there
Everything just to safe
You can't even have arrows and urns that destroy armor and weapons for some reason

>>182360225
huh? I thought hexes were good. It's been ~2-3 years since I played ds2 but I recently picked up sotfs.

Where are all the chimes btw?

>>182362840
I meant in das3
hexes in das2 are awesome as fuck.
only 2 chimes you should care about are caitha's in drangleic and dragon charm from hotwheels

>>182361363
That thing looks fun. How is it in pve?

>>182362552
you can do it, I need to do that on my own SL30 twink since I want some fashion from TRC

>>182362391

Well, I'm about to make a dark caster. But one of the most fun builds I've ever made was a pure sorcery build. No Moonlight Greatsword, no Crystal Flamberge, no Greatsword of Judgement, no melee weapons whatsoever. Just a court sorcerer staff, a crown of dusk, a scholar candlestick, the 4 top sorcery rings and a ton of fun. Won a lot of "fight clubs", both by beating people honoraburih and by dunking on the host. This was pre-dlc mind you

I've also enjoyed the stealth sorcerer build, the luck sorcerer build, the pure faith qt healer build for co-op purposes

>>182363024
>charm
chime

also i forgot where the branch staff was, sorry

>>182362683
>both genders have manly shoulders
I know it's to keep the hitboxes consistent but goddamn. Ruined slutwear for me.

>>182363047
Thanks for the tips. Might look at sorcerer, never played one for fun only.

Now Im thinking about a stealth STR with minor sorceries like chameleon and millwood bow. Dont know any good str melee for this theme.

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>>182363028
you definitely want the hawk ring because its damage falls off fast.

why does everyone (especially /v/) shit on ds2 so much as the worst souls game? I cant name a single thing it's done wrong.

>>182363304
Pretty much a close range sniper? Sounds silly enough for me. Gonna get some utility sorceries next to it, or should I go pyro? The thing is, i dont really know my way around the dlcs, especially dlc magic

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>>182363365

>>182362391
>>182363047

Adding onto this, this is an RPG with a character creator, so making up a role and a character really does help to increase fun

Quality build? Why not a mercenary/bounty hunter? You know how to use damn near all weapons and you're more than comfortable pelting your marks from range with a bow before lopping them apart with a greatsword

Interested in miracles? Play the story of a meek priestess, trying to aid those who would come to her call with her healing before she learns the true power hidden within the miracles she so eagerly reads, becoming a frail yet deadly master of lightning

Figure out what sorta weapons you like, what sort of builds might work with them, and then think of a story that would lead a freshly revived corpse to be taken down the path that leads to these

>>182363037

Danke, technically I'm not making a proper twink build since as soon as I've got all the Watchdog items I'm gonna be heading to 60-80, but knowing it's possible makes me really want to make a tryhard regen tank for low levels

>>182363365
>I cant name a single thing it's done wrong.
the hype train was the problem
DaS2 had been hyped up a bunch and the downscaling of its graphics really fucked it in the ass.

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>>182363365
It done wrong plenty of things, but 4chan dislikes it because it was quality and quantity over style unlike das3
Best design book though, only des one can compete

>>182363535
millwood is a STR weapon and is basically made for dragonform flynn builds (red tearstone if you really wanna get crazy)
also it leo hit counters
and friede is a cheating bitch because she has several frames where she cant be knocked back by great arrows despite getting a heatshot

you dont really need magic to go with it

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>>182360980
>spend most of webm running to enemies for cover
>proceed to spam soul arrows while the blueberry has to deal with extra projectiles
You're going to tell me magic is viable, right?

>>182363298

Moonlight Greatsword will work wonders, combining bows with greatswords has always been useful since the bow prevents people from passively play at range

Also, the combo weapons such as Splitleaf are fantastic, go like 28 STR, 2-hand the splitleaf and enjoy using buffs like Crystal Magic Weapon to go from bullying people at range to obliterating them in melee

>>182363606
if you really wanted to do a tryhard low level twink you'd use Dragonslayer greataxe

>>182363365
You really are desperate my man

You can like it all you want, just dont delude yourself that what you like automatically needs to be great

Everyone has guilty pleasures, yours is DaS2.

>>182360980
Thank god that brainless blue chased you into enemies before you ran out of juice to plink at him with. If you had been forced to draw him you'd never have done it.

>>182361681
>console babby acting like he's hot shit

Cute.

>>182363365
Dark Souls 2 on release was much different than it is now with all the expansions. Mostly in the enemy positions and layout. It's a fun game, but if you had come from the experience of Dark Souls 1 Artorias of the Abyss you'd often have thoughts like, "Did they not look at any feedback? How'd they manage to let this into the final game?" Dark souls 2 was just suppper hyped by so many people and it didn't shatter expectations, so it left a bad taste in the mouth of some people.

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>>182363678
>QUALITY
>Dark Souls 2
That game is the definition of quantity with very very VERY bad quality.

>>182363950
(you)

>>182363928
>Feeling superior because the platform you play on
*C R I N G E*
What a loser lmao

>>182363769

>Makes an INT build
>Fights with a bare amount of intelligence

The gameplay fits the build. STR builds almost always favour charging enemies down and finishing them off with either a ridiculous combo of a few overpowering blows using your unmatched Strength

Dex weapons favour chipping away before dexterously parrying the opponents attack to get a massive crit riposte

Faith is best employed in a team environment, where your comfort with staying in the fray to keep your allies alive truly shows your faith in your team mates

INT builds favour smart plays, only attacking at the most opportune moments due to the inherent weaknesses that offset your often overwhelming barrages of magic

>>182364132
>*C R I N G E*
gotta be 18 to post here, friendo

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>>182361838
That is no lag, I'll show you lag

>>182363892

And there's the thing, I didn't make this build to be a twink. If I had I'd have gone knight or something since my Pyromancer's points in INT and FAI are more or less useless. I literally just took the character, leveled VIG to 27 first like I do with all characters I make, got the points to wield a raw SS, stayed like that for the sake of getting the Watchdog items and progressed during the slow periods where I wasn't etting much PvP action.

Only to find that I was infact more than capable of soloing my way past area after area after area with the build as it is, with next to no trouble. Meaning I was getting better rings, better armour, more estus flasks, and stronger sips

>>182364242
Yeah like I said: not viable. Be as smart as you want, it doesn't mean jack when you don't have the fallback of running away. The smart thing would be to build something that can preform well on its own.

>>182364043
The lack of arguments shows that I am right

>>182364643
>dark souls 2 is le bad
amazingly constructed argument. how can anyone recover from that

>>182364643
Here's an argument for you. The art quality is top notch. So many of the armor sets are beautiful and there are a lot of them, so it's awesome for people who like collecting items.

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>>182362552
you call that a twink build m8?

>>182364242
Int does not favor smart plays, int favors plinking until you run out of juice or they fall over. The problem is, competent players won't get hit by spells. And if they just refuse to follow you into enemies, you're fucked. If they use a seed, you're fucked. If they don't panic when surrounded by enemies, you're fucked. You can't ever go toe to toe, so the entire build is rendered useless except for some outlier situations.

>>182364604

If you're not able to run away, you're playing the game wrong

This is a game with so many shortcuts, yet you find yourself stuck? No, not buying it

3/10, you got a reply because I've little else to do with myself

Or do melee builds not benefit from the strategy of Turn and Burn when facing multiple opponents in PvP?

>>182364318
>Acting like an authority
>On the internet
Stop it you cringey loser

>>182364876
>>>>>>Deprived
Deprived is the WORST possible choice you could have made.

>>182364998
stay in school kiddo

>>182364985
What if they refuse to chase you and just arrow down the enemies? What if they are competent enough to kill enemies AND dodge magic? What if they have a magic resistant shield? Are you just going to keep running even after you have long run out of FP?

>>182364885

I've managed to win countless invasions, beat countless gank squads, win multiple duels over and over simply by taking the sorcery build and playing smart

No one has perfect prediction, if they do they're not wasting their time on a non-competitive game, they'd be busy making ridiculous sums of money in gambling and other activities

If you play the build smartly and utilize all the tools you have available to you, you are more than capable of outplaying people just by outsmarting them. In invading and 1v1

>>182363950
Vanilla isn't that bad, but absolutely no style. DLC's got great style but shitty gamedesign.

>>182364825
It manages to have
>Worse bosses, graphics, combat, enemies and level design
than Dark Souls 1,
Enemies and Levels look like shit and a mit Well designed, enemy placement makes no sense, the clunky mechanics are just disgusting, the music underwhelming and a lot more

>>182365273
I've won past the item cap for pale tongues. I doubt your words.
>perfect prediction
None of your spells are faster than a second. It's not a matter of prediction, you don't even have any attacks that FORCE prediction. It's all reaction.

>>182364985
If you need to run away you aren't playing it right. The game is just spacing and timing. You could have just rolled through the UGS user, then slapped his ass with a flashsword. Or set up a soulmass and freeaimed some soul spears. Or maybe actually use one of the two pretty good catalyst weapons to keep your options open to something more than kiting and reliance on monsters. Running to enemies for support only shows that you don't have the basic knowledge of the game down.

In other words you need to gain proficiency.

>Get DS2 in Humble Bundle
>Cool, might try it out
>Make a sorcerer, sounds fun
>Figure out that spells are pretty okay, but kinda meh because of low amount of usage
>Starts using a staff and sword to fight my way through things
>No idea where to go, heads off the the heide place
>Runs around for a while, and finds this armoured dude in a tower with a ridiculously small platform
>Kills him without using spells, because fuck that in such a small arena
>Still haven't died yet
So when does this game actually start to become hard?

Also, whats up with the random ass knights that show up and jumps around like idiots? They doesn't seem to give a lot of souls compared to how annoying they are to deal with. They just follow you around forever, and dodge around like spastics, but never actually poses a threat.

Also, how bad is it to switch from Sorcerer to fighter mid-game? Or can I just keep leveling my Intellect and whatever, and be a good mage at some point later on in the game? They don't seem that good right now. Yeah, I can kill some knights before they reach me, but then I have exhausted a third of my spell usage, and wasted a lot more time than I would had I just dashed in, dodged around, and showed my sword up his ass.

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>>182365273
>pussies out into a pile of enemies
>heheh I'm so smart xddd
nigga...

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>>182364486

>>182365209

So if you played a sorcerer, your idea of playing smartly would be to waste your spells when you know they're not going to hit? If that's the case, i can understand your reluctance to play that type of build

You're thinking about too many what ifs: What if the opponent rolls out of every single one of your melee attacks? What if he parries you on the first hit? What if he happens to lag at the worst moment?

All builds lose if they're countered perfectly. You invade and get guys who won't chase you. Make yourself a nuisance every time they find a mob of enemies. That's what invading is meant to be about, becoming a part of the other player's world that they can either deal with by killing or deal with by avoiding

>>182365525
you can respec. you could fight hard bosses now or keep going the easy path,

>>182365075
not for vig gouging at SL15 faggot, I dare you to find a class that can hit 24 vig at SL15
all other stats are pointless when you use the dark hand

>>182364486
The best lag death must fucking be that one nigga that died from a pvp backstab in DS2 after the pvp was over and after he has already rested at the bonfire

>>182365720
Your idea of Sorcerer is literally "Run from encounter to encounter and hope you get lucky enough to land a hit". You don't have the pressure to force mistakes, you don't have the damage to punish mistakes, all you have is a pool of FP and the hope that you will kill them before you run out. You are just a bad build.
>what if the opponent perfect rolls out of every attack
Catch their rolls
>What if he parries you
If he has a parry tool out don't be a retard and swing away
>What if he lags at the worst moment
If you are in such a tight spot as a single lag hit will kill you, you were already losing.
Meanwhile you have one option: hope they are dumb enough to get hit by a slow spell

>>182365527

Don't judge me by your own standards, I've never claimed to require the use of enemies to win every invasion because that's simply not necessary

You turn and burn when they chase with a flashsword. You chip at them with a dart when they run. You hang back and cast nukes when they're too busy to be looking. You use the large amount of combos available with weapons such as Immolation Tinder and Heysel's Pick. You don't waste casts because you're not desperate. Even if you die you're likely to re-invade with fresh estus while they've got, what, the two extra you gave them from making a mistake?

Every build type, from strength to faith to dex to int and all the hybrids inbetween are viable. Don't have to like it, but it's a truth. Anyone can beat anyone on any given night

>>182365525
Attempt to get a sword called "Blue Flame". It acts as a sorcery catalyst and a pretty solid sword beside. Also, funny when you fuck around with it in PvP and pretend it can't cast until you have an opening for a kill shot. Gets people the majority of the time.

>>182365849
Vigor is inferior to Vitality at ultra low level. Knight or Warrior are both superior choices because they don't waste loads of stats on mentals

>>182366064
Faith builds are not viable and neither are sorcery builds. Anyone CAN beat anyone, but not if they are both playing at an equal skill level with disparate builds. Sure a tourney player could accidentally fuck up every little thing against a pure faith caster, but the likelihood is with a little bit of effort that faith caster will die having not done much.

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>>182364876
>>182362552
>>182365849
>Not making a twink with no VIG

>>182366420
>wearing partial armor
>wearing armor with bad efficiency

>>182366489
>implying it matters at that low SL of 28

>>182366547
It matters even more because of the bonuses of flat defense and absorption outstrip Vigor gains by a lot. You can't call yourself a true twink until your opponents can't do shit for damage against you.

>>182366208
>Vigor is inferior to Vitality at ultra low level
at no pooint is vit better than having at minimum 27 vig

why is AoA and TRC so fucking shit?
the core game looks like pure gold compared to this

>>182367023
what's so bad about them in your opinion?

>>182366916
Well no, it should be at MAXIMUM 27 at low levels. And at 27, Warrior is a straight upgrade to Deprived. Vigor at low levels takes a deep backseat to flat defense and absorption. It doesn't help that much if you have 1000 health if enemies still do 150 per hit, as compared to them hitting for like 50 but you have 700 or so.

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To the people who wondered about ENB's stance on Dark Souls 2 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2642mAJQm0Y

Fresh from the man himself

>>182364643
>top tier covenants, nothing in the series came even close to their QUALITY
>NG+ was worth playing
>top tier QUALITY bosses for the that console generation time, honestly I will pick smelter demon over half of das3 bosses and ivory king over gael
>Actually well and QUALITY made poise and armor system with way around like buffed estoc, best in the series despite
>for the first and last time in the series npc weren't des ones rehash
>QUALITY boss soul weapons that were actually viable unlike das and das3 one
>All playstyles were viable
>top tier armor design
List goes on
Dark souls 2 was actually very well made game, it's just faggots like you prefer style over substance garbage like das3
>>182365449
>Worse bosses, graphics, combat, enemies than das1
Here, last (you) for your poor bait

>>182367235
Doesnt feel like DS3 i think, it feels much more like Bloodborne

>>182360356
what's the link?

>>182367459
DS3 in general feels a lot more like Bloodborne than it does DS1.

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Hey guys I did it

>>182367717
Did you get sidetracked for a long time or how did it take 2 whole years ?

>>182367240
>And at 27, Warrior is a straight upgrade to Deprived.
correction: Warrior gets to have 1 more vit than the deprived at SL15
as for the int/faith it scales with the dark hand

>>182367986
Dark Hand is terrible except for absolute new player spanking. Raw dragonslayer is just better.

>>182368070
>Dark Hand is terrible except for absolute new player spanking.
>SL15
>anything but highwall ganking
m8
just admit you fucked up

>>182365449
>worse graohics and level design than 1
take off the nostalgia goggles man, holy shit. You're actually going blind

>>182367391
Lol

>>182367598
Here: https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk

>>182368126
Well first, I'm attempting to express to you that 27 Vigor is retarded to build for and you should spend most of those points into Vitality. Second, you are using "ganking" completely incorrectly. We aren't arguing over which starting class is better to get to 27 vigor, we're arguing which is just better, period. As previously stated, getting hit 10 times and dying at 27 vigor is inferior to getting hit 14 times before dying.

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>>182368070
>opponent meming it up with dark hand
>revs up R2
>astora GS charge into him
>it has poise

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I've heard the Repeating Crossbow is shit, which is a shame. How are the other crossbows in DS3?

>go back to DaS
>nearly all weapon R2s are shit and will get you killed
Man, Miyazaki really hates fun.

>>182368686
You didn't know that? They actually made lifedrain usable, which is great.

>>182368483
>getting hit 10 times and dying at 27 vigor is inferior to getting hit 14 times before dying.
numbers pulled directly from your anus

>>182368780
dumpster fire levels of garbage, dont bother

>>182368780
Crossbows in general are only useful for chip damage in PvP when used off-hand with Exploding Bolts. Sniper Crossbow can be handy for plinking in PvE if you're doing a pure caster build with shit for physical stats, but that's about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2642mAJQm0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2642mAJQm0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2642mAJQm0Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2642mAJQm0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2642mAJQm0Y

>>182368780
Avelyn and Arbalest, both with exploding bolts, are pretty much the only ones worth using

>>182368961
It was an example, dingus. Early level, flat defence is miles more important than Vigor, because it's basically free conserved vigor. Furthermore, high absorption can flat out neuter incoming damage entirely.

Would you cum in Karla?

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>>182366208
>>182368483
>Knight or Warrior are both superior choices

stop lying on the internet I'll tell your mom, deprived is superior for both vit and vig gouging

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How can others souls games even compete?

>>182368283
not that anon, but while graphics in DS2 are more detailed, I guess, they somehow do look worse to me than DS1 graphics. maybe it's the lighting

>>182369293
If you only want to use Dark Hand I suppose.

>>182369550
And das looked like garbage compared to des visuals
But of course everything that doesn't fit "a-team are de best" narrative should be ignored:3

>>182367957

I got stuck on The One Reborn and gave up for a while. Went back and just sucked so I started a new game. Quit playing for a while after that and when I started again I didn't remember where to go/couldn't find the path to Unseen Village so I took another break and focused on other games. I finally figured it out yesterday, along with finding the bath teleport to make it easier to retry the boss. TOB was by far the hardest boss for me and my biggest roadblock in the game. No other boss took me more than 4-5 tries but he took me a good 20.

>>182369703
I don't know anything about any teams or who done what and when, all I know is what I like in my game, and I didn't like the graphics in ds2, but I liked the graphics in ds1. sorry if that upsets you

>>182365741
Where to then?

Heide was stupidly easy so far. So do I go for that Giants forest thing, or is there another place I should have access to that is actually difficult?

>>182366071
I don't care for PvP though, so I likely wont bother with it.

>>182364486
pretty sure that was just a cheater

>>182369550
>Answering that samefagging retard after he repeats over and over again "no it's good XD" despite the arguments
Most people here ignore him, He can play his shit game alone

>>182368686
Should have charged up the R2

All DS3 does is throw more enemies at you, this inherently makes it worse.

Discuss.

>>182370769
>the arguments
dont see any here, boss :^)

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Is it just me or is the hyperarmor on this thing ridiculous and broken?

>>182369247
>you will never smell her ripe lady scent from years and years of stewing in those clothes

>>182369247
She's hollow and was sitting in a dungeon for however many years wearing the same disgusting robes.

She probably smells like a rotting corpse.

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>>182369120
Yeah well no surprise he regrets that tweet

>>182371117
if you perseverance with a caestus you can bs it.
won't work on good players tho

>>182371117
It is, it has greatsword poise on its R1s and R2s unlike every other glaive and its WA has enough poise health to tank greathammers with 25~ poise.

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>>182370769
>alone
pffffHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>182371117
DLC weapons are literally pay to win.

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>>182368283

>>182371345
But DS2 is more fun than 1 tho
1 had that dumb "Oh you pressed "attack" 2 minutes ago?Let me do it now" shit and was generally just unfun.It was a better experience ,yea ,but in the end DS2 is the one you go to to have fun with.
Its like in Elder Scrolls,Daggerfall is the best one yet you'll be playing Morrowind to actually have fun

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>>182371458
the best weapon is in the base game though

>>182371441
>3000 on Steam after a sale
>Almost as much as one
Nice activity

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>>182371715
>1 had that dumb "Oh you pressed "attack" 2 minutes ago?Let me do it now"
That pissed me off so much. It seemed to happen a lot during the 4kings fight.
>use estus
>nothing happens
>go to attack
>use estus

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Fight of the century

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>>182371901
>30 day average still 500 more players

>>182371945
I can never get the mimic to land an attack, but the skeleton always ends up getting in like 4 or 5 hits.

>>182367391
You seem to be confusing "quality" with "quantity". All the content in the world won't make a game that plays like ass a good game.

>>182371856
Indeed, but the best greatsword, halberd(s), and armor set are all in DLC2, not to mention the +3 rings

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>>182372165
You're a bad coach

>>182371663
>DaS1 with texture mods looks better than vanilla DaS2
Well, no fucking shit.

>>182372090
Both games are practicallly dead but the Trash Sequel has almost as much players as 1 while 1 is much older
No wonder it's a shit game

>>182371117
I fought somebody competent with this for the first time and I couldn't interrupt it to save my life.

The fact that you can't interrupt after its R2 swing is complete bullshit.

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>>182371663
hey ma look

>Fighting Velstadt for Sunlight Medals
>Every host feels compelled to run through every enemy instead of staying to the sides
>One idiot tries fighting the Dragonrider at the end
Why do these people feel compelled to fight everything here? It's a great way of getting yourself killed.

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>>182372750
I can also pick cherries.

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Are there any weapons in DaS2 and DaS3 that are functionally like the Golem Axe, with a small projectile that basically acts as a long-range r1? Not counting the MLGS or the GSoJ, of course

>40 attunement only gives 6 slots in DaS3
Yeah I know you no longer have to attune duplicates for more spell count but that seems a little low

beat the first in 40 hours, holy fuck, i think this game is the best i played in year, i didnt feel nothing similar since Metal Gear 3 years.... awesome, now lets do it with 2.

Its funny because till Orsntein and Smough i died like tons of times, but the rest was easy, i beat all the gods at 2 o 3 try, Gwyn just at 2, really easy at this point

>>182373207
There's...I guess Twincest Sword in 3 and Drakewing GS/Dragon CGS in 2

>>182373258
Good luck and play 2 like you did 1. Blind with no help except this, level ATT and ADP to high levels to actually roll in 2

>>182373207
Dark Souls 2 has Drakewing Ultra Greatsword and Curved Dragon Greatsword. The range on their blasts is really, really far.

Dark Souls 3 has nothing.

>>182373207
That weapon that Leonhard uses has a projectile. Crescent Moon Sword.

>>182373231
how is six (6) spells low? do you need a fucking rolodex of spells nigga?

>>182373258
DS is a game that actually gets easier as it goes on since you upgrade the crap outta your stats and gear

>tfw actually liked how stats in DaS2 influenced each other

>>182363678
>they couldnt stand wasting a design such as giant lord so they just put him in DS3
i'm ok with that

>>182369551
do you also comment on dex builds how they dont have enough str to use ultras?

>>182363678
I still fucking love how Last Giant gets pissed at you cause you destroyed him in the past when he was the Giant Lord

Why do people hate dex builds?
Are they just outright bad and useless?
I did a spear dex build and it worked out really well

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Post shit spells. I'll start.

>>182373773
No but I do comment on Dark Hand builds by telling them that they've made a poor decidsion when it comes to anything but actually new players.

>>182373207
There is a warhammer in TRC that shoots out sharpnel

So I defeated the giant King or w/e the hell his name is is my next step really Aldritch?
I mean I walked in, she spawned a fuck tonne of arrows and killed me straight away.

Doesn't feel like a good progression curve imo

>>182373956
don't tell anyone, but it's a meme

>>182373956
Strengthfags from DaS days.

>>182373956
In DaS 3? Which spear? Only the halberd seems to work properly

>>182371458
>Why don't we use the dlc to introduce all new weapons that complement the existing lineup?
>Miyazaki: nah, let's just reskin halberds and greatswords and give them all R1 > ... true combos that do ridiculous damage
>...

Fuck Miyazaki. Dlc weapons raise the skill floor and lower the skill ceiling, fucks both new and experienced players. REEEEEEEEEEEE

Why das3 was so soulless and uninspired compared to every other soulsborne games?

>>182374593
because they wanted to sell the most copies

>>182374593
They wanted to play it as safe as possible for max cash gains. Bamco, basically.

>>182374593

See >>182367264

>>182374593
Because everybody whined about DaS2 trying to do something different and fix all the problems with DaS1.

DaS3 is literally the definition of playing it safe with a Triple A title.

>>182373361
>>182373513
Thanks, yeah i think i am going to enjoy it a lot, thanks too for all the info and the good work with all these links and support.

>>182374435
DaS2
Winged Spear +10
>>182374132
Oh alright

>>182374593
magics sucked and pvp sucked because of lacking build diversity. only viable setups in pvp and pve were select melee builds and pyromeme

>>182367264
Make it short

>in order to get the forlorn set you have to kill him four times
>he invades at random
>also those summonable ones in Aldia's Keep don't count
Fuuuck you

>>182374856
tl;dw
people didnt like the gameworld
people didnt like the i-frame stat bullshit in 2 but its less complained about than the former
people had different perspectives on both of the games because they each had their own experiences

thats about it.

>>182374812
PvP sucked not because of lack of diversity but lack of options. Spells were never a viable thing at high level play, it has always boiled down to melee versus melee even in DS1 where magic was at its most broken. However, with the gutting of poise came the complete and total dominance of speed and reach over damage. There is no reason to ever use most of the strong attacks in the game. With the gutting of backsteps punishment became about spacing, not prediction.

>>182373993
i haven't tried it but i imagine this might be good for a combo after a demon's scar swing

>>182374812
>pvp sucked because of lacking build diversity.
And rolls
And estus
And gank priority
And covenants being the same shit

>be at 25 +2 in Cruxification Wood
>get no summons with no fun patrol, the badge doesn't even glow

What did I do wrong?

>>182375106
ide say ds2 had shit figured out with pvp honestly. magic was perfectly usable and the melee combat was pretty responsive.

>>182375339
It's not just you, I'm getting absolutely nothing

>>182375339
some anon said 35 +3

>>182375339
that covenant is shit and doesnt work, what did you expect.

>>182375106
>However, with the gutting of poise came the complete and total dominance of speed and reach over damage
Poise would make those kind of weapons even stronger. Even in DaS1 slow but high damaging weapons are only useful as backstab sticks.

>>182374074
nvm killed her easily by actually moving around

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>tfw backstabs in DaS2

>>182375160
Why bother when black flame exists

>>182374939
They invade reliably enough that you should get enough invasions before reaching Drangleic Castle.

>>182375339
If the badge isn't glowing, you're in the wrong place. You have to be standing in an area that isn't a boss room or transition zone.

>>182375635
It's more that it only matter who attacks first in range, there's no moving in to trade with a heavy attack to stagger them before they stagger you or any kind of incentive for using most heavies in general.

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>>182373993
it's not that bad

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Why couldn't they have just let this thing be good?

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How much poise is necessary for a Friede's Scythe build?
What's the biggest thing you want to make sure you can WA into?

>>182376252
A better question is why couldn't immolation tinder be pyro flame?

>>182373993
I got hit by this then rapier poked and I'm pretty sure I heard the counter "thunk". Does counter modifier only count for physical like in 1 or for the entire ar like 2?

>>182376264
>using the wa to trade
bad idea. you're probably going to lose it even if you poise through

if I wanted to make just a MLGS build would I do 60 int base required strength or the other way around?

>>182376252
>it could be a way to trade damage for poisecasted black flame/flame whip
>nah, it's just a shit flame and a shit talisman

>>182376602
Why's that? Shouldn't you be able to hit your opponent between their poise frames?

>>182376602
If you poise through you'll probably stagger THEM and get a second hit off.

>>182376789
Are you fucking serious? Can't you look at the numbers and letters and think for yourself?

>>182373207
Similar weapons effectwise in 3 there are the 2 Tailbone Weapons, Ledos Greathammer, Twin Princes Greatsword (or Lothrics Holy Sword), Ringed Knight Paired GS, Valorheart, Dragonhead Greatshield and Crescent Moonlight Sword

Related are also Frayed Blade, Old Kings Hammer, Dragonslayer Greataxe, Pontiff Knight Curved Sword, Storm Curved Sword, Demons Greataxe, Follower Javelin and Preachers Right Arm

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>>182377058
I thought someone would know and save me booting up my pc!

>>182376789
40 int, base strength

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>join a 2v2
>using exile gs
>teammate stuns a guy while i spin slash and end up killing both players
>one of them stops fighting and throws poop constantly
>join another game, same guy is on the other team but get the glitch where two others don't show up
>he just stands still and throws poop, then uses chameleon
>literally wait the entire match doing nothing
>join another, same guy is on my team
>he strips naked, puts the thrall hood on and equips bloodlust
>kills himself over and over again

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>tfw you can tell when someone is getting visibly impatient

>>182377423
You can check when you boot it. And if you have access to 4chan, you have access to mugen

Guys where can I get better armour? I keep getting owned quickly in fights or is that just DS3?

>182378018
You are shit that's why

>>182378018
vigor and get good

>>182378018
stop jumpattacking into ugs r2

>>182378106
yeah but two hits from Dancer of the >>182378106
borealis is ridiculous man
>>182378123
I see, thanks anon

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>little nephew is over for the weekend
>asks what games I play
>show him DaS, he really likes it
>he arrives at the shortcut door in the sewer tunnel right after firelink
>he asks how much it costs to unlock the shortcut
>ask him what he means
>"There's no coins or credits to unlock stuff in this game?"

Holy fuck, the tablet games have already poisoned these kids their minds. Dark days ahead friends, dark days

>>182378018
Armors don't matter much in DS. Its all just separated in Heavy Armor for poise and Light armor for longer rolls
As long as you're not wearing meme armor like prisoners tatters youll be aight

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P U R E S K I L L

>>182378267
Why are you loser at home on a weekend

>>182378284
i wear nothing but master's gear and loincloth and i do quite alright

i'm being modest

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>>182378267

>>182378462
Because he has family visiting?

When the earliest possible time to get a big axe in DaS2 SotfS?

>>182359496
how many of you are actually close to suicide?

>>182378693
me

>>182378693
used to be but then i got drugs

drugs make life wonderful again

>>182378690
Well, you can trade Last Giant's souls for one and you can buy one from Steadyhand Mcduff.

>>182378797
>>182378848
stop_getsomehelp.gif

Surely there is a better way to gain back health from hits than pontiff's left eye.

>>182378690
Buying a better game should have been your first thought

So, how does a dagger focused build work, and how does it look like?

A ton of DEX and ADP?

>>182378986
Yeah, it's called chugging your Estus Flask.

>>182378986
Sun Princess Ring
Blessed weapon
Blessed infusion
Bountiful Sunlight

>>182378693
I say shit like "I'm gonna kill myself" and "kill me" all the time, but I'm not sure how serious I am. I am quite depressed though.

>>182379058
epic answer bro

What fucking character do i press on PC to delete a fucking character on Dark Souls 2 SOTFS?

>>182379305
Del?

>>182379305
nevermind it's E which is unusual since you use E to drink an estus in DaS1

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I fucking love the basic Halberd, the moveset is so good at literally everything from roll catching to outspaced poking and the counter damage is just icing on the cake

What is the comfiest fashion in ds3?

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>>182379305
>playing on a keyboard

>>182379489
>ds3
>fashion

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>>182378267
>>182378462
>Tuesday
>weekend

>>182379489
>DaS3
>fashion

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>stone greatshield is required for knight's honor
>it also has the same chance of dropping as stone greatsword
>been farming stone giants for almost an hour now and all greatsword drops

>>182379143
You use the Corvian Greatknife which is basically a quicker Straight Sword and with more forward momentum, and the normal Dagger for crits.

>and ADP?
Wait, you're talking about DS2?

>>182379241
>I say shit like "I'm gonna kill myself" and "kill me" all the time, but I'm not sure how serious I am.

Anon, go talk to a psychiatrist. I know people who nestled themselves incredibly deep into a hole and still made something out of themselves after they sought professional help.

>>182379489
Cornyx' Set

>>182379540
My DS4 refuses to work with my pc

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>>182379470
>yfw discovering the true wonder of the Lucerne

>>182379629
I thought you could buy one from Shiva?

>>182379718
DS4 is retarded when it comes to wanting it to work on PC, but a DS3 has never failed me.

>half way through sotfs
>only killed lost sinner and freja, about to stroll into iron keep
>level 90 with 5 (five) slabs in my pockets
are they lubing me up for the dlc or what??

>>182379773
That's the greatsword.

>>182379781
Slabs are thrown around like candy in Scholar

>>182372946
Why not just kill the bell ringers so the spirits never spawn, then kill the three easy melee enemies in front of the door?

>>182379718
Then get a wired Xbone controller. On windows, it's it's literally just plug and play.

Does black flame do more stamina damage than clay or lkss war1? Anyone willing to test with me on pc? I have BF attuned but I almost never use it

is there anywhere to farm ember before Lothric castle?

Invasion/helping is not an option

>>182379990
in my experience it does do a shit load of stamina damage

2 hits is usually all it takes to break the guard of a medium shield

One more question about Dark Souls 2 SOTFS on PC how do i rotate my characters head? Clicking and dragging with the mouse doesen't do shit.
>>182379947
i live in an shit country an xbone controller here is equivalent to 100$

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>tfw no crystal sage lewds
Just ram a damn coiled sword through my chest whydontya

>>182379470
Rediscovered this bad boy recently. Love that top down smash and the weight is ridiculously low.

>mfw I just realised that Alonne Knights are called that way cause Sir Alonne trained them how to use Katanas

>>182379489
Wilhelms garb/Clandestine Coat
Firekeepers Gloves
Sorcerers hat/No Hat
Slave Knight Panties/Leonhard's Trousers
Friedes Scythe

>>182380351
H & K or J & L according to the steam forums. Check to see what keybinds rotate the camera in the game, because they should be the same.

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dergen butts

Which is more of a samurai weapon (besides the glorious nippon steel of course), spear or halberd?

I currently have Black Blade and Twinspears for my black samurai build but Twinspears just don't seem fun enough to use, and they seem to always bounce off my enemies.

>>182380990
Weren't Samurai known to use spears?

In your opinion what's the creepiest/unnerving part of Dark Souls Lore/part in any Dark Souls game?

>>182380990
weren't halberds used more in china?

>>182380920
Incorrect, that is a human butt.

>>182380826
Thank you so much you just saved my characters nose it looked good from the front but once i hit L it was a whole different story.

>>182379489
ringed knight hood
antiquated plain garb
violet wrappings
friede's pants

>>182381131
I've failed...

therefore try jumping off

>>182380412
He's ugly.....so
No>>182380539

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>he fell for it again
>>182381121
By far the Embedded

>>182379652
>Wait, you're talking about DS2?
Yes, sorry, should have clarified.

>>182380803
This looks cute :3

>>182381121
The dudes in Lost Izalith with eggs in their backs,begging you to kill you

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Well that took a good 25 minutes, Friede has way more poison resist than I remember.

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>>182381116
>>182381127
I'm no historian.

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>>182381132

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>>182379489
I love the Sunset Armor and Deserter, the worn and dirty rags really looks great

>>182381502
But they don't want to be killed they are worshiping their fair lady.

>>182381502
>begging you to kill you
wot

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WHY FUCKING WHY IT HAS BEEN AN HOUR AND A HALF. I HAVE 4 FUCKING PAGES OF STONE GREATSWORDS AND ALL I NEED IS A FUCKING SHIELD DROP. MATHEMATICALLY IT SHOULD HAVE DROPPED AN HOUR AGO.

Also ignore the points in resist I was rushing through NG++ and just threw some in there. Turns out resist does literally nothing.

>>182381701
Its the Way of the Samurai 4 scenario where you kill your doppelganger
I meant kill them dummy
>>182381685
I thought only Engyi or whatever hes called did that

>>182381701
The monsters you see on your way down Quelaag's Domain are praying for someone to put them down. (or praying to the Fair Lady to give them the succ)

>>182381121
Age without fire
Seth's experiments
das2 chasm of abyss with you exploring insides of one giant corpse that died millenia ago
Das2 giants antem being ultimate hate machines and waging war against humans

>>182381750
Inhale 10 humanity and wear the gold serpent, or mimic head.

>>182381824
Im still angry there is no mod that allows you to give headpats to Queelaggs Sister
Like what the fuck is the Souls community fucking doing

>>182381790
Engyi is just the most lucid of her worshipers.

the old demon king is the second worst boss in this game, besides aldritch of course.
fuck this.

>>182381750
>MATHEMATICALLY IT SHOULD HAVE DROPPED AN HOUR AGO
that isn't how it works. Every drop is based off of a percentage syntax list

if you flipped a coin 500 times or just 50 the chances of getting said head or tales is still the same

>>182381976
Already knew about that, still got nothing but swords.

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>>182381824
>>182381790
They are praying towards Quelaag. I don't remember towards where the ones after her beg, but they're not begging for death
>>182381750
>17 res

>>182381989
Point Up when you're in front of her.

>>182382029
Well yeah I already explained that in the bottom text.

>>182381948
They're not really ultimate hate machines,they're kinda like elephants
They never forget shit and since King Vendrick wronged them they want him and his dudes punished

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jesus christ dark souls 2's character models are shrek tier.

>>182379489
You can so alot with Dragonscale Chest, Hodricks Set, Shivas Set, Drakeblood Set, Knights Set, Alva Set and Firewitch Set

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>>182381750
>Stone Greatshield is "heavier than a mountain"
>only requires 38 STR

>>182382135
Looks alright to me.

>>182382135
They wanted creepy realism or some shit
Cartographer guy looks like the dude in porn videos that lets his wife get fucked

>>182382118
Doesn't stop me from laughing at you

so if the undead are corralled and sent away

does that mean there are regular humans somewhere?

>>182382135
Like retarded alcoholics

>>182382392
yes

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So which spear would you say is more fit for a black samurai?

Tailbone
Lothric Knight
Pike
Javelin

I'm digging the cloth on the LKS.

>>182382392
Yea,just from basic conversations with random NPCs from DS1 it would seem that its nowhere as bad as it is here ,and there is most definetly normal civilization out there

>>1823282392
Humans are literally all over the planet.

>>182382207
>dragonscale chest
Why
why does everyone wear this convulted garbage
the leggins are okay but the chest piece is shit

How is she looking so far? Any tips on thing that i should change?

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>>182382312
I still like his design
Miyazaki always go with pretty longheared boys, we need real men

>>182382392
"Regular" humans. As soon as they die outside a proper age of fire, they'll zombify too

>>182382475
I love the Pike, iirc it's the longest reaching melee weapon..not counting whip specials that hit form 5 miles away

>tfw DaS3 beard options
I'd prefer DaS2 clay beards over this scraggly ass shit. These are a HUGE downgrade to BB's options.

>>182382693
but he's a closet weeb

>>182380990
Splitleaf greatsword says it's made in a distant land

that's usually codeword for Japan