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OBEY

Blood wont get any meaningful nerfs and will keep being T0 until the next expantion.
Screencap this

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Support when?

>>182322325
Nah, I uninstalled, I'm not coming back, this was the last nail in the coffin
I've already wasted over 500 hrs on this, WD and Red Shell helped me finally break free

I only wish I hadn't ordered an Olivia figure that has yet to arrive now that I'm sick of this, but that's the last time this greedy shit company will ever get my money

>>182323043
Just vial it already.

>>182322915
EIDOLON RITUAL
SKULLFANE EAST QG
ERIS AND NEXUS HAVING TEA
GORILLION NIGGERS- SHADOWNIGARIES VANISHED

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>>182322973

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Post flat waifus.

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>Go first
>Play Baphomet on turn 5

>>182322973
reddit please leave

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>>182323248
>play blood

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>>182323239

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>>182323239
>>182323234
>>182322973
post more SV girls with nice feet

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>>182323286

>autistic tove screeching

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>>182323417

Why post nice feet when I can post the best feet?

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>>182323417

"pious"

>>182323489
Wait is that the fairy dragon in the background?
whew

>>182323646
waits for liza to die :^)

>>182323617
Saying "Oh God" over and over while in bed counts right?

>>182323617
more like pieds

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>>182323617

This game, and thread, is making me too sexually frustrated.

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>>182323158
KYOGY GIMAN SORAYATO SUTEYO

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>>182323960

Resist temptation!

>>182324069
SANBI SANBI SANBI SANBII

>Useful Links: https://pastebin.com/cFugs2Mm
What is changed?

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Despite her fake tits and misaligned eyes, I still think Snow White is the sexiest thing ever.

>>182324390
>fake tits
you mean it's a boy?

>>182324360
Someone removed "http://game-ai.jp/" from the heading netdeck/meta trends. That's it.

>>182324390
>shadow player
>don't even like hagcraft
>opened a playset of her
Eh, at least she will be helpful for dailies.

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>>182324390
I'm weak to washboards

>>182324453
>girls can't have fake tits

Alice likes taking in goblin dicks!

>>182324570
why don't you?

>>182324471
That's Mastema.

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>>182324471
i want to pull that tail

>>182324643
I mean metera.

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>>182324643

>The black-winged temptress grins in satisfaction when you assent to step into the darkness. For she is no mere maiden, but the monarch who rules the abyss...

>>182324885
>no mere maiden
>not pure
used goods

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saha ramp is good again

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>>182325207

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So why aren't you Grand Master yet /svg/?

>>182325334
I don't play

>>182325334
shut the fuck up blood nigger

>>182325334
Because I'm poor and I suck big time

>>182325232
That tits look fake

>>182325334

I only need 1K more Spawn Coinflips to get to GM in Bloodmirrorverse

>>182324390
>Ouji kiss her
>she becomes a Sword follower
Fuck off

>>182325514
wut
she is not neutral

>>182325334
Because this game is shit and there is no reason playing anymore.

>>182325620
But she still wants the ouji dick. What do you thinks gonna happen next?

>>182325687
They have pleasurable sex?

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34724

concede please

Why the name of god did Blood got sooo many good cards this expansion??

>make it to 7000
>past couple days cant climb, just keep win trading for hours till I get tired
>today I drop 500 points

I JUST WANT FUCKING GM AND THEN TO STOP PLAYING THIS SHITTY META FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH

>>182325334
current meta is too shit for me to autism grinding to there

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>>182325862

>raging ettin
>lion champion
lmao cygames,did they forget that raging ettin exist?They simply powercreeped it with lion champion.

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Last guy had ouro, used hamsa, warded it up and he couldn't clear

Cygames here
To prevent giving out a lot of vials from nerfs we will instead buff Rune and Forest to the same level as Blood right now

>>182326162
kys

https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/884525149210513409

Intern-kun has a bad day

>>182326162
>To prevent giving out a lot of vials
i msure this is the only reason they dont nerf legos

If they go as far as to give 200 Vial from bronze and silvers

imagine how much till will have to fork out for Legos

>>182325059

She's confirmed a virgin because she is literally the fucking Grim Reaper. Who needs a chastity belt when everything that touches you dies?

>>182326254
I cant help but to imagine the poor guy in a corner, crying.
I bet he hates the expansion as much as any logically sane person

>>182326005
Look at Sektor vs Fighter, same shit. Objectively better in every way.

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>>182326254
>https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/884525149210513409

Hip, hip, hooray!

>>182325813
That's not how the real world works!

>>18232639

Lyrial, Sektor, Unica and Feria are all objectively better than Fighter.

>>182326254
>let's showcase the most problematic card from the expansion
I mean, what could go wrong?

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>>182326005
Forest has Jungle Warden at 5PP. They don't give a shit.

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>just lost to burn dirt with ramp dragon

>>182326526
>the most problematic
2nd most, most problematic still Abyss

>>182326620
dragon also has owl guardian

>>182326664
Alice pathed the bloody road of going first. Without that, you won't be able to baphomet with ease.

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>>182326254

>>182326664
Not him, but the neutral package is what allows you to drop t5 baphomet without losing on the spot. The best strat to counter Spawn is to somehow threaten enough damage to kill him if he wants to play Baphomet.

If Aegis becomes the savior of the meta, will you still call him a 9pp do nothing, svg?

>>182326471
NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE!

>>182326841
Dies to Themis

>>182326664
>>182326767
Alice literally throws the advantage of an earlier turn evolve for the second player out of the window since she buffs the board and proceeds to remove whatever followers the second dude has. The reason why Sage Commander is okay is because you can respond timely to remove the followers (with evolution etc) before he buffs them.

>>182326841
I smell Wyrm God/Urd shenanigans.

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>>182326759

>Furry Avatar

Really enhances your Baphomets...

Should I spend all my vials on 3x Alice?

>>182327019
wait till end of month for the nerfs

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Has anyone actually seen Wyrm God get played?

>>182327248

on the first day of WD, never after

>>182327049
But if Alice is nerfed I'll be able to vial her for a full refund. Or do you think they'll nerf the neutral core to the extent that Alice is no longer worth it?

>Spawn
>Alice
>Feria
>Goblin Leader
>Baphomet
>CoCK
>Card Draw bunny
>Emeralda
>Tove
Pick 2 and only 2 cards to be nerfed

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>>182327248
I play it for my dragon dailies on practice against beginner AI

Insider here
Instead of card nerfs cygames is going to change the game mechanics
Player 2 is now the player that first gets an additional mana point instead of player 1
So mana is now
1 2
2 3
3 4
4 5
instead of 11 22 33 44 55

>>182327248
its fun for memes, but dont find any place in amy meta

>>182327282
i want they to nerf spawn and alice but its going to be something like goblin leader and baphomet

>>182327282
where is Frog Kiss??

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>>182327375
>second player gets to drop leader into alice first
>winrate of going second soars
Brilliant, they should hire you.

>>182327375
You're a fucking retard.

>>182327375
thats retarded lmao

>>182327375
>remove all possible advantage to going first
You can't be pretending to be that retarded.

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>>182327375
Simpler.

>>182327282
Goblin Leader, Baphomet. If I had three I'd add Tove, but I wouldn't touch anything else.

>>182327419
>Frog Kiss
D0?

>>182327608
you truly showed me, Master Rank. AA0

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>>182327668
>AA0

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>>182327692

LEAKED BALANCE CHANGES
>Goblin Leader
>Now 4pp

>Baphomet
>Enhance now costs 6pp
>tutors 4attack or higher

>>182327282
Goblin Leader (effect on Fanfare instead of end of turn)
BKB (effect on Evolve instead of Fanfare)
If a third is possible, Tove (3/2 instead of 3/3)

Ruin Blood's early game to make Baphomet unplayable.

>>182327806
>tutors 4attack or higher
wow it did nothing

>>182327248
Once in a blue moon. 14/18 Genesis Dragon is kinda funny. Almost nobody uses Dragon though.

>>182327282
Delete Alice and Aegis from the game and the meta will miraculously recover from its terminal ass cancer

Just make alices fanfare an evolve effect

>>182327248
Huh, I haven't actually looked at her art yet but that's gorgeous.

>>182327862
Say goodbye to your Emeraldas and Alucards.

>>182327939
that was never the real problem

>>182327939
>>182327862
they are not the problem nig nog

Nerfing anything other than alice herself and Abyss is just a try hard work around

>>182327939

Doesn't matter, 16 damage to face on turn 7 is unrecoverable

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>People honestly think Bapho nerf is gonna do anything
Yes it will stop the t6 spawn shit, but their winrate won't be affected in the least
Instead they'll just keep the train rolling on t5 instead of losing all tempo on bapho and by the time they'll hit 8pp they can just evo Spawn for lethal straight away, no need for a do nothing

>>182327282
Tove and Alice. Easily. Leader is not a problem without Alice.

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Any Australia/New Zealand in here? Just wondering what the demographics of this general are like.

PROFESSIONAL GAME DESIGNER HERE
HERE IS HOW TO FIX SPAWN
>GAINS AMBUSH AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR NEXT TURN AND THEN LOSES THIS ABILITY

>>182327282
Goblin Leader and Alice. I'd pick BKB over Alice but he's not on the list. Seriously FUCK blood having what is basically a cudgel on turn 4 even when going first.

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>>182328041
Regional NSW reporting in.

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Phantom Cat + Abyss is master race

>>182327535
What do other card games do to balance first and second? I haven't played a lot of them but the coin in Hearthstone actually seems like a pretty good one.

>>182328001
>try hard work around
Which is exactly what they are going to do. Is this your first nerf?

>>182328212
I will never use phantom cat because it is the reason we didnt get fat ass cat

>>182328239
the problem cards will remain, and ten the nerf will be for nothing

>>182328212
>BITCH I GOT GM WITH T0
Congratulations. You get to join with the other 910 cool guys.

>>182328212
Is that the version with 1 or 2 spawns?

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>>182328041
Right here
You could make a poll

>>182328304
Post fat ass cat?

>>182328212

MOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM

>>182328212
Post deck please? I'm currently using spawnless phantom cat.

>>182328212
>11 days to get to GM with T0
Whoa, you suck.

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>>182328212
Congratulations, you are just like 91% of the GMs. Now fuck off.

I can't stop spending all my gold on take two.

I'm new and suck, so I should spend my gold on packs to get better cards and practice before wasting all my gold on t2, but it's so much more fun than constructed. The first time I won 5/5 was exciting.

>>182328714
T2 is a shitfest anon please stop it

>>182328212

So, do brainless autopilot players like you actually feel like you've done something impressive, or?...

>go first
>blood mirror
>opponent gets to grimnir first
>lose
epic :)

Is there a way to utilize Archer and robbing hood in a forest deck?
Especially archer since mid-late game her effect isn't that good against big bodies.

>>182328041
Australia here. I've been playing nothing but solo since the game is shit now. Just waiting for nerfs.

This game is so shit now. Is it just me or is this expansion actually the worst yet?

>>182328714
T2 is all about luck, you are asking to lose all your money

>>182329246
nah pretty sure its just you

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>Special package for girls
Oh vey.

>>182329246

When almost half of the ladder is made up of one class, and not even just one class but one DECK, there is a huge problem.

>>182329106
No. Not only are their effects quite weak but forest lacks too many things to make anything that isn't B&B or roach work.

>>182329295
Would pick Lucifer or White Ridge. Veight is a good choice too but a bit close to a doujin I was reading earlier to be comfortable.

>>182329246
>play against haven
>turn 1 goblin > Feria > Goblin L > Alice
>play against rune
>turn 1 goblin > Feria > Goblin L > Alice
Yeah, it's certainly in a bad shape.

>>182329309
Yeah, when ladder was almost 40% Haven in DE, at least that was split between Pure Elana, Pure Seraph, Elana Seraph and Storm.

>>182329329
shame

>>182328714
T2 players spend their gold on T2 rather than packs. If you feel like you'll only enjoy T2 in this game, it's alright.

honest to god I feel like my winrate vs. spawn is WORSE going first because, even if I manage to deal with that fucker using untargeted removal, I'm forced to play on the back foot so much that the 3 evos run me over

Red pill me on carabosse. I love blood but I don't want to play with abyss.

I want to eat Demon Eater's stinky pussy

>play Spawn
>turn 5 takes forever and you lose
>go against Spawn
>turn 5 comes away quickly and you just concede
Why does this happen?

This meta is disgusting
So i bought a switch. damn i'm hype, i haven't played a zelda game since twilight princess
ps nerf spawn

>>182329519
I don't have that issue playing KYB shadow. There was one time I had multiple ways to lethal the guy and just toyed around with the bloodfag.

>win against neutral blood with back to back grimnir's
not even the slightest feeling of guilt, get fucked

>>182329246
>play against any other crafts
>neutral shit
>neutral shit
>neutral shit
>neutral shit
>neutral shit
great variation and don't get me started on fucking the spawn that runs that fucking shit

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>>182329295
Cygames employee here.
I'm sorry but you have the wrong image.
Here is upadated for Wonderlands Dreams expansion.
Thank you.

>>182329642
>go first
>can't drop spawn because you're treated by neutral
>lose mirror even going first

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What if Saxton + Haunted House to infinitely trade

>Mash that mother fucking concede
>Game hangs for nearly a minute before accepting it

I'm just gonna start alt+f4'ing from now on. I hate how the game forces you to watch evolves and lethals despite you having hit quit.

Just fucking nerf spawn by increasing its cost to 9 or 10. 6/12 or 8/16 damage at them turns is still reasonable or just remove its damn ambush so it can be banished.

Even if bapho is nerfed by either removing or increasing its enhance, shit is still a strong doom clock to play compared to dshit or aegis since you can tutor it while going full midrange neutral package.

>>182329867
Sword is also annoying with Neutral+Albert going face.

>>182329916
They knew you would try that so.
>non-ghost follower

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I was looking forward to opening some legendaries for so long, and I finally did... a fucking second Dread Queen and third Cthulhu, both of which I don't fucking need.

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>>182329992
>(Excluding ghosts)
No fun allowed

>>182329992
Why can't my Aegis be pulled as Neutral?

>>182330048
dumb frogposter

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>saved 4k gold for the worst expansion in Shadowverse.

>>182330068
How do you even pull him out in the first place?

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it's like pottery

>>182329585
just phantom cat bro

>>182330139

>opened 50 packs day one
>one legendary

>>182330139
Also the most powercreeped one yet. Just like every expansion before it. So you'd be a fool not to spend gold on it.

>>182330142
Saha. That neutral spell promises to turn every card in my hand into neutral. It's false advertising. Aegis is in my hand not on the field. Why the fuck doesn't it work?

>Cards that are in need of a nerf

Alice
Spawn
Actress
Goblin Leader

>play dirtrune
>get anything slightly less of a perfect curve
>lose to turn 4 Alice
I hate this fucking card and game so much.

>>182330269
>any follower under 8PP
>Aegis is 9PP
GEEE, I wonder why you stupid fuck

>>182330270
Tove still needs it the most.

>>182330269
Re-read Mirror's ruletext.

>>182330204
Great Aegis ignore that shit- Oh wait, Cygames actually nerfed Aegis despite babs saying otherwise.

>>182329406
Even that went down eventually. Royal and Elf were the top two most played classes at the end if I remember right. Vampire isn't going to be stopped without nerfs.

>>182330139
Kill yourself, Lelouch.

if alice buffs your goblin leader, all the goblins it spawns should also have the buff

>>182325207
What changed?

>>182330304
>>182330349
Saha is worthless anyway. Dumpster.

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>>182330204

>>182330139
>Forest main
I saved gold day 1 in last 3 expansions.
Thanks Cygames.

>>182326997
>a cartoon dragon
>furry avatar

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Thinking :^)

>>182330425
Hired
-CyGames

>play dirt
>literally brick every single fucking game because the game hates me
>lose 1000 hard earned points
I give up. I'm going to play blood where I can literally play whatever and not have to have 2 cards to do something.

>>182328038
tove isn't a problem without alice too

>>182330557
You're lucky, because that's useless against blood.

>>182330620
90% of this fucking cancer meta is not a problem without alice

that bitch is has way too much stats for its own skill

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>>182329295
>veight
>package for girls

>>182329585
consider neutral with phantom cat then, carabosse is trash

>>182330504
luckily enough I have yet to deck out with Alice memes
how many neutrals are you running?
I don't like the list that runs only 3x ToS and 1x Satan, I think having value cards like Luci/Arriet/Grimnir as buffers against reaper is really valuable

>>182330620
>2PP with 3.5PP worth off stats
It isn't hard to just fill your lower curve with neutrals like Lyrial and Grimnir for it.

>>182330718
There's always the /ss/ crowd.

why did they create a neutral expansion?

no one wanted this, Just keep adding cards to the current crafts and create different deck types from there.

>>182330557
>DB in a Blood meta
you've got a pair of brass ones, don'tcha

CARDS THAT ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE NERFED
>Abyss
>Alice
>Feria
>BKB
>Tove
>Emeralda
>COCK
>Red hood
>Rabbit-Ear Attendant

>>182330772
likely they thought it will balance out the game giving similar opportunities to all crafts

They over buffed the neutrals and the game became stale cause now all decks run the same neutral core + few cards from each craft that takes advantage of it

>>182330729
I have 3x ToS, 1 satan, 3x grimnir and 2x baha. I just had to keep spamming ToS there so he couldn't kill me with aegis.

>>182330718
>>veight
>>package for girls
Girls can like femdom too

>>182330839
>actually wanting to nerf Maisy
Anon, please.

>>182330896
>free removal on a full evo body
just no

>>182330620
Tove should be like rapunzel, getting locked at end of turn and needing a new neutral follower per turn in order to attack.

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>>182330839
>no Grimnir

>tove
>now loses its ability to attack on the end of your turn

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>>182330921
Don't talk to me and my daughters. Yes, daughterS.

>>182330772
Because they literally don't know how to balance the game in any other way.
Naturally, they fucked that up too.

>>182330996
sig needs it to be damaged
squasher needs shadows and an evolved target
maisy needs NOTHING

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>>182331042
>another neutral follower and an EP is a better bargain than 4 shadows or a damage follower
Anon please.

>>182331042
>uses evolve and neutral follower on board
>needs nothing

>>182330839
>nerf cards in a tier 4 deck
No one is playing Neutral Sword anymore. It died 3 days into the expansion. Sword is tied with Dragon as least played class, probably now lowest now that duckmill memes are becoming more common.

>>182331098
how many soul squashers atre still played
how many maisys are still played
think about it

>>182330752
> It isn't hard to just fill your lower curve with neutrals like Lyrial and Grimnir for it.

if you do it you deserve to have some bonus

it was the idea of wd but they overbuffed the neutral package

>>182331145
>how many soul squashers atre still played
3

>>182330234
>>182330718
>can't play carabosse because a gold is better than her
Just kill me now.

>>182330359
Forest was never a top played class, simply because so many players can't do roach math. The most successful sure, but never the top played.

>>182331304
>6pp magic missile

>>182331145
I have been laddering and mostly see control sword than neutral sword. Meanwhile, I am squishing things left and right with a 2-drop.

>>182331127
I'm more amazed there are people butthurt with neutral sword.

If sword gets useful cards in next expansion, they'll drop the neutral package and go back to maid and tutor IKUZO.

>sword getting nice cards
Can't have that, must push cblood harder since it failed because people just played midneutral spawn.

>>182331145
3 Squashers vs. 2 Maisys
You can remove the neutral requirement from Maisy and it would still be a shitter card. A single evo point is much more valuable than 4 shadows.
Maisy should have been a 4 pp 3/4 destroy one follower if a neutral follower is in play. I mean if BKB can do it, why can't a fucking gold card?

>>182331304
you can't really compare them, it's just that carabosse is meh

there is a lot of leggos that are worse than golds and even bronzes. ginger is worse than levy, so what

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/meta-deck-analytics-july-3-9
>those forest stats
what the fuck

>>182331417
>ginger is worse than levy
it's like comparing aegis to a skull beast

>nerf Alice, the marquee lego of the set, so that games are no longer decided in the mulligan phase
>neutral curve now inferior to just regular aggro curve
>more than half of the new set becomes utterly unplayable because it needs neutrals to work
This might be the fix we want, but it's most definitely not the fix Cygames wants. Don't get your hopes up too much.

>>182331514
alice was always supposed to be a tempo card and not an aggro card

>>182331514

Evolved Actress Feria still allows for a strong neutral curve, it just requires resources and is limited to the board.

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>>182329665
IT SUCKS TOO

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>turn 5 Baphomet
>turn 6 abyss
>turn 7 alucard
>die from 20 life

wew nice gaem

>alternate timeline
>turn 6 abyss
>turn 7 abyss, evolved over your taunt for 8 damage.
>first abyss hits face for 12 damage
>die from 20 health

>>182331514
that's why i am strongly against nerfing tove (also cock, kiss, cat etc) because those strong cards are ideally needed to make overall weaker pure neutral engine competitive

>>182331416
KMR needs a cheap removal with a body that doesn't need evo so BKB happened.

>>182331569
>upgrading 1PP goblin into 3PP worth of stats
>not aggro
Don't joke yourself, anon.

>>182331627
>>turn 6 abyss
>>turn 7 abyss,
nigger wut

>>182331476
>Haven fucking destroys everything except blood
>tfw nerfing blood would just make Haven tier 0 which would be even worse than spawn shitters everywhere
there's no hope for this game

>>182331627
>turn 6 Abyss
>turn 7 Abyss
Come on, you can do better than that.

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Give me the scummiest neutral blood deck before I fucking break something.

>>182331641
Tove needs fixing. It should be like rapunzel that needs a new neutral to attack.

>>182328232
the first guy skips draw phase

>>182331641
And why would you want neutral engine to be competitive unless you're a cygames employee

>>182331689
>tfw want to play haven
>don't have the 3 snow whites that are now core to every haven deck
What is a poor player sopposed to do? What can I replace her with?

>>182328232
1st guy does not draw

what makes SV more "unfair" regarding who 1st or second is the fact that you get steady PP every turn no matter wat.

Games Like Magic 1st and second dont matter much if you dont draw the mana cards.

>>182331747
Because it allows weaker archtypes and classes to always have a decent engine to fall back on and build around
Dont even pretend lyria/unica/grimnir werent already played in 90% of decks

>>182331689
Yep, and unlike Blood, there's no WD card that can be used as a cop out to nerf Haven.
It's literally Aegis. Aegis has to be nerfed or Haven will be relevant tier 1 unless an actual tier 0 deck exists.
You fuckers also will be bitching about Elana and Tenko in August, quote me on this.

>>182331803
that only makes all the game the same proto shit with some variants. which is shit.

>Dont even pretend lyria/unica/grimnir werent already played in 90% of decks
yes, and everyone complains how 3 grimmir per deck on every single deck was bullshit

>>182331790
Just use Reno if you're running storm.

>>182331803
ah yes it sure is nice to have the objectively most powerful deck to "fall back on"

>>182331732
>>182331802
But the 1st player in SV draws 1 less card on the first turn so isn't it the same thing?

>>182331747
why not since we have a tematic expansion
it also can make the game more acessible despite the growing amount of leggos
it should be an option though, not strictly the best package

>>182331802
>Games Like Magic 1st and second dont matter much if you dont draw the mana cards.
Magic has a much more lenient mulligan though
It's very easy to brick in SV as player 1 if you need a 1drop

>>182331790
Literally nothing, she's an auto-include 3-of in every Haven deck and probably will be forever. Can't wait until the top meta deck is 50,000 vials and every game is just spamming removal until Aegis hits the board.
>but muh chemo

>>182331476
So what is this control forestcraft deck?

>>182331879
is not cause it adds 1 more chance to you in case you hand and mulligan is not that good

also as I said. the main problem in SV is the guaranteed PP per turn.

That means that as long as you have the cards you will always be ensured curve.

now imagine you have curve for 1PP 2PP 3PP 4PP followers but you only managed to get 2 PP in those 4 turns

>sword is getting its neutral engine nerfed because of blood
.________________.

>>182330839
So basically you're saying that sabreur is fine?

>>182331931
>Magic has a much more lenient mulligan though
yes cause on teh same degree your Draws are "wasted" on Lands

Anyone else stuck on the title screen? I can't seem to start the game.

send help

>>182331846
Aegis doesn't just need to be nerfed to balance Haven, it needs to be nerfed or deleted if the game has any hope of having a healthy meta again. It's the single most degenerate card in the game, warps the FUCK out of the meta putting a non-negotiable 11-turn clock on all control decks (which in turn kills all control decks besides itself), and is probably in the top 5 most bullshit cards ever printed in any CCG ever.

Whoever designed the card should be cleaning the shit out of a mcdonalds toilet for a living

>Haven tier 1/0
Hahahah. Midrange Shadow, Kys Blood never happened right, guise? Oz also doesn't exists, nor does Dshift or Roach OTK.

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>>182331970
no idea, but I have fun with my own Control Forest

>>182332139
delet this

>play against neutral blood
>stabilize at 12 hp
>he has 2 cards
>those 2 cards are double Alice buffed Gilgameshes
I'm fucking done with this fucking game until they nerf this fucking cunt to oblivion.

>>182332112
Get to Master shitter. Stop complaining about irrelevant shit. What's next, Leonidas?

>>182332139
>zero 4 drops
huh?

>haven not even T1
>shitters complained about haven already despite them having obvious counter

are people really still that buttblasted about DE

>>182332164
why

Are all the neutral blood GM already ?
I'm not playing against a lot of them today

>>182332250
No one wants to play Dshift or see Dshift ever again.

>>182332139
>no 2pp 3 damages spell
>get rapes by Tove

>>182331802
>Games Like Magic 1st and second dont matter much if you dont draw the mana cards.
That's not the reason for Magic being more lenient towards 1st vs 2nd at all. And it's only more lenient. It didn't fix the problem. You still ALWAYS want to go first unless you're playing some weird Legacy/Vintage combo deck. The reason Magic is more balanced is because the defending player decides how combat goes. You can no longer safely go face with your 2/2 once a 2/3 hits on the other side and can just block it dead, recovering a ton of tempo for the second player. Also, the second player can actually interact with the first players turns thanks to counterspells/instant speed removal, potentially preventing them from just perfectly curving out every time in that way.

>>182332309
Man, if things get to this just drop bahamut and tech Odins just like even shit like Sword did back then.

>>182332242
I dont know any card on that range that is usable, all Followers I have is cause their abilities,
Egg is shit
Teena is not bad, but I would rather save the evo point
demonic stick is over expensive

>>182332354
sure, tell me a Forest card that does that, other than Elf Assault cause this is not an neutral core deck

>>182332309
oh my, that's too bad

>>182332239
>as long as the game is still playable, dont complain about shit card design
gee i wonder why cygames keeps getting money for not even fucking trying anymore, definitely not cause of shills like you goy

If you are bored here is a way to have fun:
>go to decks
>choose your craft
>auto generate one
>???
>hit that motherfucking ranked button

>>182332548
>drop 7/8/9pp Polyphonic Roar
>lose, not viable
>drop 9pp Aegis
>somehow safe, auto win the game
See how d0 rank you are?

>>182332605
do it yourself, post deck and then post results

>>182332843
all right:

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/1?hash=1.1.61k2Q.69MKa.61l_a.5zvAi.5zvB0.5zxcy.61jKo.61jKo.61lly.6Gzti.5zvvQ.61joo.61qeS.61qeS.69Lc0.69Lc0.6Gzts.69Omg.6DATQ.61jZA.5zvAs.5zvAs.61lmu.65XT0.65XT0.61l_Q.65XTK.65enI.69O2G.69O2G.61oww.5zvBU.61lma.61lma.65Zv6.6H0K6.69LcK.6DCBG.61SDy.694Vo

here we go

>>182331304
I prefer carabosse in burn aggro, since you don't have to run neutral cards

>>182332736
The point he's trying to make isn't terribly clever, but you're a dumb motherfucker for still not getting it

>>182332548
>This presents no issue in itself, but the deck’s win rate is higher in lower ranks: in B rank the win rate is 54.0%, and in C rank the win rate is 56.5%. (The win rate of most other decks doesn’t vary greatly by rank.)
There. Cygames already did something about it. there's no need to cry. Enjoy every tier 0, tier 1 meta instead.

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no bamboozle

>>182333134
Kill yourself.

>Stopped playing once ToG hit
>Want to get back into the game
>Meta is even more cancerous than ToG
See you in 3 months.

>>182333030
What you shitters need to get is that Aggro is permanently the braindead King and the only issue this game will ever have aside from Dshift.

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>>182330839
Don't touch my wife

>face 7 blood in a row
>every single fucking one of them had tove into leader into alice into Baphomet
How do they fucking do it?

>>182333376
The "Alice turn 4" gets me everytime. Cygames obviously did something to the games code for the time being

>>182328714
If you like it and are good at it then there's nothing wrong with it, especially since going 5/5 gives you great rewards and enough gold to keep going. If you can consistently go 4 or 5 out of 5 then it's more value than buying packs. That being said, If fucking hate T2 and think that it's mostly luck-based so I just stick to packs and limit T2 to when I get free tickets. I've only ever gone 5/5 once, and that was like a week ago after playing for half a year.

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Looking for a concede please

52936

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>>182330839
>No Goblin Leader

>>182332052
restart steam

Do you guys think old dragon with Lightning Blast and Zell would be op in this meta?

>>182333623
Goblin Leader is no longer a problem if Alice gets nerfed.

>>182333749
too slow, not at all

>>182333134
anon why

>>182331641
Neutral engine should never have been a thing in the first place

>>182333578
still after a concede

>>182333760
>Feria worth of a 7pp Commander
Nice try

>>182333776
So why did they allow shadow to terrorize the ladders until the end of the expansion, while they gutted all of dragons good card halfway and left them in the sorry state that they're right now? Fucking KMR

>>182333962
>nerf zell combo because it's broken af
>give it to blood in next expansion
I love cygames

>>182333962
Dragon was chemo for multiple times in the same expansion. They killed that chemo so Blood and Shadow could reign supreme and keep the tryharders aka dolphins and whales happy.

>>182334076
>playing solitaire until you can storm out a wincon a turn
>chemo
you might as well play dshift

>>182334076
You got it wrong. Dragon was the cancer and shadow was the chemo.

>>182333815
>he cant beat them

>>182334137
How would you remove a board full of last word skeletons and face damage, or Mordecais + Khawy? What about surviving the Blood menace? 3 LB aren't enough.

>>182334047
>Doesn't even need an EP to deal like 90% of the damage
>Only need one card in hand to pull it off
ebin

>>182334319
but it's not storm

>>182334276
x3 Lighting Blast wouldn't be enough even for Spawn.

>>182334381
It's also tutorable
It also deals damage no matter what when placed on the field unless returned to hand by homecoming or mischief
just placing one on the field and evolving another to take care of a ward follower is enough to win the game

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>>182332843
>>182332905

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>tfw actually farming bloodnigger with shadow

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>>182319892

>He isn't skilled in +Luck

Gitgud kid.

>>182334886
post dick

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NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE

>>182328212
Congrats anon. Ignore all the haters, they're just mad they're garbage midrange shadow got powercreeped by the superior craft and they're too poor to craft spawns.

>>182334968
(You)

>>182334967
And did you know that Odin and Zeus were actual mythological figures worshipped in real life too??
Retard

>>182334967
Are you retarded or underage?

>>182334967
are you retarded

>>182335009
>>182335051
>>182335081
i was just pretending

>>182334967
AND ALICE WAS A REAL-LIFE LOLI WHO WAS RAPED BY A FACELESS OLD GUY TOO

>>182335051
just your typical weeaboo

What's up with that executioner's axe tech in nblood? I've seen it multiple times in mid-high masters today, and a few times yesterday. Is it some new superstrong grandmaster deck that uses it?

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>ToG was way bett-

what killed rob in the west?

>>182335312
People in charge of the localization were pantsu-on-head retarded

Need a concede please:

68316

>>182335308
>1 craft being able to do that
>vs 7 crafts being able to do that
ToG was way better

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>>182334936

>>182335426
>still need to craft 2 soulsquashers
th-thanks

>Turn 1 Goblin
>Turn 2 Unica/Lyriel
>Turn 3 GOBLIN
>Turn 4 Alice

And people think they're good for getting to masters with this?

>>182335394

Thanks!

>>182335426
>spectre

>>182335419
Yeah thats why only blood is played

>>182335472
Great for trade with Tove bro.

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w-which do I pick

>>182335419
>All crafts being able to play equally is worse than one craft being the only craft with the broken combo
wtf am I reading?