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BASIC INFORMATION
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>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Character Overviews:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame Data
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 Moves per Character
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS
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>KBD
https://youtu.be/3whW6bh9Aks
>Buffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iJWsjc_w8
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on Pad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5Ji23k4LU
>Getting Up
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
>Video Playlist for Combos with Every Character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n

NEWS
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>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>New PC Patch Segregates Hackers and Other Fixes
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements
>Tekken Bowl Announced
http://gematsu.com/2017/07/tekken-7-dlc-ultimate-tekken-bowl-announced
>PS4 Patch Version 1.03
-Changed Revenge Match Restrictions in Online Mode
-Made Adjustments to matchmaking conditions
-Made adjustments to game balance
-Fixed bugs related to some customization items
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Why did they make the roster so shitty?
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Leave JDCR to me
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Play the robot
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>>182269393
>No Wang
>Ganryu
>Lei
>Julia/Jaycee
>Kunimitsu
fuck this gay earth.
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>>182269512
I already do.
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if you play a fucking bear
I'm downloading a trainer while I kbd away from you and turning it on
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Jack is shit
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Remember to filter tripcode user Lucifer !!ss9GITmavRN
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>>182269461
my boy mr naps looks like the people who torture you in asian mafia movies
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>>182269512
Sorry I don't play misogynist characters and get off to male power fantasies.
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>>182269512
he's a cyborg not a robutt
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>>182269754
Faggot
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>>182269754
This
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>trying to learn Nina's IWS 1
oh my god

my body was not ready

this is the hardest thing to do in tekken im pretty sure
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>>182269887
Gigass is the best robutt
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>>182270019
yeah its real hard
its on par with taunt jet upper and ch df2 electric with kazuya
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Korean Feng player 일십백(OneTenHundred)'s opinion on Knee's Feng pick

''Feng is a good character. It's not as insane as Leo and Paul where you are filled with OP moves or that crazy bitch [refers to Xiaoyu] where you can spam one stance to play 50/50 while dodging high and mids. But Feng certainly is one of the best character at close range combat.''

Leo fags btfo
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>>182270316
can I get source on this?
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Would anyone want to play a Genbu Alisa on PC NA or something
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>>182270316
lmao even korean pros says the same shit scrubs in here do
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>>182270248
Nina's IWS is 5+ just frames in a row so definitely much harder
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It's like my Japanese animes
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>>182270356
huh? why would anyone want to play against you?
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>>182270350
Original source is http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=fightgametekken&no=1408254

Translation is on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/comments/6mf8wl/a_korean_players_analysis_on_knees_feng_pick_for/
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>>182270356
>na

no
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>>182270316
Aris has said the same about Feng: he is a really versatile character than can play in your face or poke from afar but he doesnt have any really good and/or cheap moves, just a whole bunch of OK moves.
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>>182270586
It's why I main him, I feel no other character has as many options
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>>182270546
the best part is that this guys right
Paul is too strong in this game compared to his past iterations (imo his enemy is literally when his opponent is at the wall)
and Leo can still heavily mix you up to the point that every frame is a guessing game
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>>182270356
>genbu

i dont feel like getting 100 - 0'd today sorry
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Nigga that's cringe. Why did you make your shitty webm the thumbnail
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>>182270519

>>182270946
Okay. Please, keep working hard so you can feel confident enough to fight me in the future.
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>>182270356
I'll play against you in like 10 minutes if you want
t. Fiend
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>>182269461
I knew it he looks like this motherfucker.
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>>182270316
>spam one stance to play 50/50 while dodging high and mids.
He sounds like a scrub
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>King players never tech when they get thrown
Really makes you think...
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>>182270002


I need that alisa tech add me, steam id peraliq
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>gf has hots for DevJin
>meanwhile Heihachi is my nigga

Which one do I pick up, tekgen?
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>>182271417
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>>182270019
thats why i only use the simple moves like
d 4 - 1 then f 2 1 4
why is nina so fucking hard
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>>182271417
>the king player who runs at you from halfscreen to try and shining wizard
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>>182271213
I don't think so sweet cheeks
Alisa is completely dishonest and low iq (which explains how you're in genbu anyways)
pick up a real character and I might consider going against you
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>>182271304
that's exactly what I was thinking. Mad Dooooog!!!!
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>>182271417
it's true. I suck at teching throws. I only really break them when I fight a character with a command throw like Bob or Kazumi. They always go for it and they're 1+2 break so it's easy.

>>182271571
I can do instant shining wizard in front of your face! I only get it half the time though. I need to practice.
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"Eliza will be available 30 days after release"

But its okay when Tekken does it.
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>>182271313
>One of the best Feng players in Korea's arcades is a scrub

wew lad
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Yellow rank gameplay is so much more fun than green. It's like tag 2 again

I wanna bring up a few more characters to yellow before I continue ^__^
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>lost my promo to fighter AGAIN

I guess I don't deserve to make it out of greens...
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>>182272058
Why are you losing?
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>>182271842
who said it was ever okay?
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>>182272229
me
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>>182272283
stop being dumb then
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What's a good Jukebox song for Arctic Snowfall
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Play the Robot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8-gr1AXKZo&feature=youtu.be
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>>182270356
Replied to the wrong person, you still trying to play? I main alisa so if we play it will be mirror
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>>182272424
gigASS is not a robot
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>>182269552
>"No ganryu" is a bad thing

Nani
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>>182272424
Fuck this shit was frustrating to deal with

t. Love dawn

Grats on vanguard 1 more til yellow
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>>182272546
I have like 20 throw setups. Also thanks
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>>182272527
sorry I just like sumo wrestlers. They're neat.
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I really like Leo's moveset, but her movement is not very fluid. Like, a lot of her moves end up with static animations but she is still in her recovery frames so the whole experience is janky.
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>>182271451
Play young heihachi
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>>182272664
Ok that's understandable

Usually when people complain about him not being in the game, they have never even touched him
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>>182271451
Your gf has shit taste
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>>182272132
If it's the first match, getting outplayed. If it's the second match, its my opponent just turning it up because he doesn't want me to promo.

I really don't think I'm playing any different because it's a promo, but I don't know for sure since there's no replays.
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>tfw I'm STILL garbage with Xiaoyu
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>>182265761
Please respond
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>>182273047
region?
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>>182272976
Could be nerves and thinking about that promo making you impatient. Happens to me.
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Tips for playing Steve against Asuka?
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>>182273047
ask in the discord
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>>182273007
watch Tanukana gameplay.
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>>182271451

HEIHACHI
MISHIMA
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>>182273147
IS DEAD
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>>182273147
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>>182273117
Lows
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Is this the best robit?
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>>182273261
W E
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>2-2 against Gigas
>glitchy broken fucking annoying hitbox
>i have full hp
>he has 1 hp
>trying to jab to kill him
>his throws have longer reach than my jabs
>his throws also crush and ignore highs
>he figures it out and throws me 8 times to death

fuck this game
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>>182273319
>>his throws also crush and ignore highs
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>>182273319
after the second time why didnt you just duck or break the throw
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>>182273305

No
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I will win EVO Bruv
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>>182273117
PAB d/f+2 if she's spamming reversals
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>>182273319
O U T P L A Y E D
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>>182273319
>tried the same tactic 8 times and got punished each time.
Anon...
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>>182273394
wiv shaeen..i fink hes a good character
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>>182273379
I can't break 100% of throws, just most of them
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>>182273408
What is the pkb df2 combo? Tfw warrior rank Steve and I don't even know it lmao
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>>182273319
>Complaining about Gigas

How salty are you, Anon?
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>>182273587
His hitboxes are buggy and it's somewhere in between annoying and irritating.
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>>182273091
US
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>>182271842

>Eliza will be available 30 days after release

Honestly she's nothing special. I kinda wish she wasn't part of the Tekken universe as she's a gateway for Tekken characters to have super meters now.
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1-3 Kazuyer
4-6 Heihachi
7-9 Jin
0 Kuma
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>>182274092
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>>182272704

>I really like Leo's moveset, but her movement is not very fluid

Her animations snapping like that seems to be intentional as in the martial arts she uses have real moves that do that.
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I vastly underestimated the difficulty of transitioning to Tekken from a SF/MK background. Like holy shit it feels like every characters movelist is double the size I'm used to and it doesn't even include the juggle options. I'm the type that likes to grind out in training but I still feel like I don't know half the buttons available to me, mostly because the buttons feel unintuitive (but probably because Tekken just feels unfamiliar). Maybe I got spoiled on how easy it is to pick up new characters in SF5 and IJ2.

How do you first time Tekken players do it
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>got myself a stick
>playing Kat
>4 4 4 4 4 ing all day
>got a perfect
>4th kyu already
I am pretty much godlike, this shit is easy.
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>>182271661
You're kind of right. I feel like Alisa has very good mixups options that makes it hard to guess and I have good IQ so I can easily make use of her.

However, I play a lot of characters. What do you consider a real character? I might be able to play them.

>>182272425
Some things came up, but please do add me so we can play later.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198042010266/
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>>182274424

I tell this to every new player that gets scared by characters with large moveset. Don't let it intimidate you. Less than half of your characters moves are useful at all.
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>>182273394
....bruv....
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>>182274424

What character are you playing. I might be able to help you out and show you which of their moves are good.
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>>182274470
>Razer mouse
>Star Wars cup
>vape
>fidget spinner
>Siberias
are you the walking meme?
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>>182274470
>mayflash
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>my jabs get blocked
>im -10
>guy does snake edge

?????
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>>182273506
I use 1, 2, d/f+1, 2 S! dash d/f+1+2.
But if you want the optimal one it's in the pic
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Got to vanquisher awhile ago at 71 wins. Now all I see is terrible juggernaut-destroyer Lings. Is this what purgatory feels like?
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>>182274984

>jab
>-10

What

Who are you playing.
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>>182274470
I want to believe this is bait but google can't find this image...
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>>182274984
block
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>>182275117
he meant his whole string, probably
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Wanna try me guv?
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>>182274984

>guy does snake edge
>you see it, block, and launch him

?????

It high crushes I guess so maybe he was IN YOUR HEAD brew
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>>182275117
sorry my whole 2,2 string
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>>182275140
>>182275173
i did block it
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I was having a good day today before I played Tekken.
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>>182272704
>>182274387

Leo's fighting style is Baji Quan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA9a977HzFg
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>>182274785
Not really set on a character yet but I've put the most training time into Lili and Akuma.
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>>182275160
not me it'll be like you
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tfw i keep getting demoted due to losing to people of my rank and winning against people higher and lower
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>>182275160
ey u... u wana try me guv?????
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>>182274424
I just picked one and stuck with it, found out which combos click with me, which moves are better than others and just grinded out matches
jk I'm an unga Feng 3,3,4,d3 and shoulder spammer
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I've been playing ling for awhile now but I think I'd like to play normal tekken from here on out. Who would you recommend?
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>>182275716
>playing normal tekken
nah man, now you gotta learn them bears of honest honesty.
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>>182275716

Rashi-- Shaheen is one of the most honest characters in the game outside of his godlike hopkick. He's good to learn to real ins and outs of the system.
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play the zombie
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I lost to a random spamming 9th Kyu Alisa with 4 wins and i'm Fighter

I just dont understand this garbage fucking anime character
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Who is Eliza and why does she have meter and why does she have FADC?
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>>182276038
that's my wife you're talking about
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>>182276034
put on a trip already so i can filter your scrubby autism
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>>182275716
Ling is normal tekken though?
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>>182276034
I can give you a breakdown of Alisa's moves if you don't want to spend 5 minutes in practice mode.
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>>182276034
post the replay so we can make fun of you not punishing unsafe stuff.
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>>182276034
they're just words
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>>182276038
She is basically a test run for Akuma and the like to see how they would work in Tekken.
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>>182276034

It's normal. Even looking at Alisa can cause losses from how trash she is. But take her to training room. Lots of scrubs do really stupid shit with her that is high/unsafe/etc.
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>>182276215
I don't think so. She does her own thing. Not as much blocking, rather just evading with stances and jumping around
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>>182273394
Awight bruv.. so im thinkin' yeah.. if I'm bein honest bruv, Gigas is really good..
So if I pick em yeh, Im thinkin' I'll win evo..
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>>182276215

>this is what Ling players truly believe
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>>182276432
I refuse to believe he said Gigas is a good character
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Am I too old for fighting games?
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>>182275970
This Rashid/Shaheen meme is retarded when Shaheen came out first
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>>182276545

Yeah. That's pretty much 90 year old man tier results.
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>>182276545
link?
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>>182275970
41heen is retarded fuck off
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>>182276715
But I'm only 19 years old.
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>>182276545
The hell is that
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>>182276781

How the fuck is that possible? I am blaming your monitor and not you now.
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Why do I give these fucking cretins re-matches when they run the second they win? Why is everyone such a massive fucking bitch?
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>>182274470
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>>182276545
Nah, I get 24-25 and I'm able to block snake edge online just fine. Millia blocker is a garbage test.
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wew i just KBD 3 times and whiff punished with an electric 100% on reaction in real match for the first time

it's the little victories
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>>182276881
post your result
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>>182274424

use the new characters until you are comfortable. it's a fair difference. they have all the basics and hardly anything more than that. pretty much everything has an intuitive use, without much overlap.

there is actually quite a lot of semi-universal stuff once you dig into a lot of characters. df2/WR2 launchers, magic 4, df1 mid poke, b4 knee, to find 10f punish you look at 1 strings, 12f you often look at 2 strings, d1/d2 floor break, hopkicks, combo flow with screw attack, find your power crush, etc.

for combos just watch people and take the most repeatable shit. some characters can use 2 combo routes across 10 different starters. combos is the easiest part which i usually get out of the way first, actually knowing what to do apart from combos takes more work and real game time.
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>>182271465
Nina feels very difficult to play against, especially when a player is mixing up with her SS cancels. I really need to take her into the lab and figure her out.

>>182273506
I do:
PAB d/f+2; WS+1; d/f+1,2~1~b; DCK+2; EXTDCK+1; d/f+1+2
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So is leo a boy or a girl or what?
Where are his tits?
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>>182277370
G e t
O u t
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>>182277352
Nice webm, Anon.
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>>182277352

Is 7 your first Tekken?
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I've played in high greens so much that 1st -3rd dans completely throw me off
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>>182277370

Considering Leo's full name is Eleonor Kliesen you can make up your own mind what that means.
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>>182277352
I love low parries
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>>182277694
I know guys named Stacey. Your point is moot
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>>182277064
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Is Nina the least popular character in the game or what?

I've played 300+ matches and never ran into her once.
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>>182276034
Aris called her an annoying ass character and s should lab her but didnt feel like it because he likes having fun. You are good, bitch is hated by every oldskool Tekken player, that BITCH SIMPLY AINT TEKKEN.
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>>182277694
Whre are his tits tho?
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>>182278049
please stop being mean to my wife
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>>182278015
Aris is a bitch, he even hated Tag 2.
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>>182278157
tag 2 sucks dicks
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>>182278157

Who didn't?
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Alright so real talk /teknigs/
Should I try to learn Lars or Alisa? Which is objectively the better character in this game? I come from playing Bob so speed is definitely good although I know I'm losing the weight. Which has the better mixup game or at least the better lows?
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>>182278157
Funny because most pro players despised Tag 2, Aris is not alone on that one.
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I can learn a lot more stuff from Rip's stream than that stoner's stream.
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>>182278157
Casual and competitive in tag 2 was literally garbage in tt2. It was only good for fucking around and playing with friends. 6 and 7 were/are much better
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>>182278272

>Funny because most pro players despised Tag 2

You really shouldn't be talking out of your ass like that.
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>>182277780
Link
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>>182278241
I don't know about Lars, but Alisa doesn't have good mixups.
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>>182278241
lars finally looks like a man so him
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>>182278208
>>182278217
>>182278272
>>182278361
Most people who are good at Tekken liked Tag 2.
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>>182278394
I can post several links to Aris old ass podcasts where you have the entire American Tekken scene bashing it. It was fucking trash, GTFO newfag bitch.
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>Decide to fuck around with a new character every now and then just to experiment and keep things a little fresh
>Barely keeping head above water
>tfw suddenly everything clicks and you just start steamrolling people
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>>182278241

Overall, Alisa is a stronger character. Lars has better lows though imo
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I liked tag 2 a lot more than 7

Lots of more characters to play

Stages were all diverse and great

Bound and tag assaults and tag crashes made gameplay a lot more dynamic and interesting

Music was better

It was a better game overall
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>>182278534
>I can post links
>doesn't
also,
>American Tekken scene
>pros
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>>182278446

The only people who liked Tag 2 were people from NorCal, Koreans, and garbage online players.
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>>182278534

>American Tekken scene

That's all I needed to know. Your opinion has been discarded.
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Is the EU or Murca better at Tekken?
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>>182277794
I'm in GM right now and I only see the same 5 characters.
>King
>Katarina
>Law
>Paul
>Dragunov
In the last 20 or so matches, I didn't meet a single char outside of these 5. I want to go back to kyus
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>>182278534
Their best player, Jimmy called him out for being a TTT2 hating bitch
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>>182278534
>American Tekken scene
lmao
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Alright I give up.

Ill come back to Mishimas if i'm still playing next year or so, trying electrics is ruining my hand and this is way too much effort to win

Sorry Heihachi, you did nothing wrong.
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>>182278808
Murca
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>>182278691

I loved Tag 2 as well, but come on dude, the music was the worst in the series.
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>>182278691
Hell no T7 is far superior than tag 2
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>>182278742

The Japanese didn't like it either. You can see from sales and Nobi's interviews on the scene's opinion on it.
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>>182278909
EU is the only relevant region in Tekken. Opinion discarded once again.
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>>182278446
Tagging is such a garbage boring fucking mechanic I hope there won't be another tekken tag game ever.
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>>182278856
Atlanta is the only relevant Tekken scene in the USA, they all despised the shit out of Casual Tag 2.
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>>182278827
All I ever see are
>paul
>drag
>Bryan
>Kat
>Steve
>jin
I literally hate playing against all of them. Steve is a cheap piece of fucking shit and it seems like Bryan is safe on every single attack they ever do.
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>>182278886
>aim to win
>tulip festival
>your sunset
>its not a tuna
Most of my T7 shitty stages like the helicopter pads are all TTT2 music now
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>>182278856

Jimmy is a world renowned contrarian bitch. NorCal in general really.
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>>182278808
No one in America could beat Kaneandtrench. They probably have an overall stronger top 5 though.
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>>182278987

The only scene trasher than America. Sick.
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>Tag 2 was pretty much the SFV of Tekken
>newfags pretending it was the best game ever and muh koreans like it
Koreans are autistic retards, they literally cant play anything else.
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>>182279217
>being this jelly of the best Tekken player in America
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>>182279196
Helicopter pad is fucking great faggot. Literally the best in the game for grudge matches.
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Guys check the catalog
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BOARDS GETTING SPAMMED PROTECT YOUR GENERAL

t./wowsg/
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>>182276720

Search millia blocker.
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>board is being wiped by some pokemon autismo
You guys mind if I stay here a bit? I played a bit of tekken like once or twice.
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>>182278885
There's not a single EU player that could beat any of the top 5 US players
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>>182277658
Nah, first one I've taken seriously outside of being a lab monster.

>>182277719
That Nina player bodied me, 28 - 0 before I finally called it quits with loads of close endings to matches. Thankfully I know where I went wrong, I just wasn't good enough to take advantage of his patterns.
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>>182279289

I am 100000000% positive that he isn't even top 5 in T7. You'll see at EVO.
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>>182278808
>>182279218
We should get a reasonable measure of strength and depth when world tour finals happens.
5 players from Europe, 5 from Americas, 5 from Asia and the winner of Evo.
Probably a surprise if Asia doesn't win both Evo and world finals but at least we'll get Europe vs Americas in loser brackets
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>>182279358
is this what being a refugee is like
steve is the most fun tekken guy btw
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>>182278157

Aris has stated that the biggest issue with ttt2 is that it brought in a whole new dynamic that dominated the combat that was only going to exist in that game making it pointless to master.
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>constantly going back and forth between winning and losing
>basically every other match is a loss
>feel like I'm learning nothing with my character and have no idea where to go
>starting to think I'm actively getting worse at the game
>nothing else I want to play so feel obligated to stick with this despite not having fun anymore
fighting games fucking suck
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>>182279358
Yeah we're a loving and accepting community
unless you play King, you lil bitch
>>
Can someone please tell me how the fuck to beat Steve?
>all attacks he ever does are safe on block
>big attacks push you back so you can't even retaliate
>Can hit you on the ground and launch you
>normal punches into launchers into combos
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We need to keep refugees out. Remember what happened to Sweden?
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>>182279431

Use f3 my dude, it's amazing.
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>>182279745
allahu akbar baby
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>>182279654

That's common, dude. The better you get the worse you feel because you can actually see your weaknesses clearly the more you know. Now instead of feeling discouraged think about what you're lacking in and practice at strengthening those weaknesses.

If you're bad at KBDC, grind that shit for hours in practice room.
If you're bad at whiff punishing, focus all of your ranked/offline matches on doing them.
If you're bad at remembering at executing punishes, grind the game more and read as much as you can.
etc
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What is Xiao's db 3 even for?

I can't decide if it's useless or if I should be using it constantly in neutral for the free frame advantage
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>>182279737
Don't let him get in your face. If you do let him get in your face stand block 75% of the time and duck when you feel a high is coming (Steve pressure is full of highs)
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>>182279645
The biggest problems were the endless Mahvel-esque 50/50s thanks to the tag mechanic. Tekken is not Mahvel, it destroyed neutral. Also, RA (good players dont like RA no matter how hard you T7 fags defend this trash) and way OP damage.
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>>182275136
It was posted on reddit a few days ago.
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>>182279737

Realize that he has garbage range for the most part. The longer range moves he has are unsafe lows. Fighting him up close is suicide most of the time so try to zone with a wall of tracking moves and whiff punishing his aggression.
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>>182279907
Oh believe me I tried, trying to get it in on that player was next to impossible though. Once I figure out where I can find holes in her offense I'm sure I can worm it in though.
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>>182279312
How's WoW one year after Legion actually? Did they change Disc Priests?
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>>182280287

>ducking against Bryan for no reason

It's like people want to kill themselves for free.
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>>182279303
what the fuck happened?
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>>182280435

Low soccer kick is pretty scary, my man.
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>>182279957
That's not what I said though, I said specifically I don't know where I should be going with learning things. I'm practicing things like KBDC and whiff punishing but it's not really doing all that much for me. I'm not understanding what I should be looking for or how to fix my mistakes because I don't know how to do that.
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>>182280646

I am 100% okay with eating that instead of a 70-80 damage wall carry.
>>
everytime I accept a Paul match I just regret it
everything he does is bullshit, safe and is impossible to trade with
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>>182280646
scarier than a 70 damage + wall carry orbital?
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>>182278015
>>182278272
>>182278534
How well regarded is Aris anyways?
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>>182280882

I don't like using this word, but he's a literal e-celeb that's good at online Tekken.
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NO OTHER CHARACTER IS AS FUN OR FEELS AS GOOD AS FENG

PLEASE RECOMMEND ANY

IVE TRIED JIN, HEIHACHI, LARS, LAW, KAZUYA AND ASUKA
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>>182280817
Thank god most ps4 shitters playing cancer characters have paul/law avatars, so it's easy to dodge them
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>>182281124
keep playing feng?
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>>182280752
>>182280752

Watch your losses and see exactly why you got fucked up. Pay attention to simple things like your spacing being shitty/throwing out unnecessary buttons and disrespecting their frame advantage. Those are two really common culprits for getting bodied.
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>>182280882
He's a funny dude who streams and occasionally commentates. That is all.
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>>182280435
>>182280834
That's not a duck. If you get up holding back off of that spike the qcb+4 is guaranteed. There's only 2 ways out of that trap, stand up straight and punish, or roll on the ground to your right and get away from any launcher traps. If you stand up straight you risk getting caught by a second trap with f+4,1.
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>>182281124
Lucky Chloe!
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What the fuck is happening to my posts
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>>182280752
How are they not helping you you? When you lose you should be asking yourself "why did I lose?" Lack of character knowledge/framedata? Slow reactions? Put in unfamiliar situations? Dropping combos? Keep playing and focus on your weak areas and go from there.
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>>182280805
>>182280834

I think I'm just scared of lows that do alot of damage that I can't visually see. I duck alot against Mishimas too.
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>>182281289

I'm stealing this tech
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>>182281289
WHY DOES NOBODY TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE DISCORD?? TEKKEN ZAIBATSU SUCKS DICK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182281289
I should really learn bryan. After watching knee use him I feel like I need to learn him asap. The only thing I'm afraid is how to do the taunt cancels
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>>182281707
It's a neat trick that people haven't figure out yet. You probably just lose out on damage if you use it against people who realize what will happen if they get up.
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>>182281868
Bryan is gonna blow up after Naps wins evo with him. Too bad scrubs will drop him because he's awkward af to play.
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Why aren't you watching Lord Aris?
>>
>Aris testing and learning Eliza
>She still isn't out so I can learn along
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>>182282076
Because he's currently AFK.
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>>182282076
Gonna make some oatmeal and get comfy
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>>182281868

You literally just have to press forward to cancel a taunt. Just make sure you don't press f+taunt, or you'll grab. The trickiest part of taunt is not even landing the guaranteed attacks after it, it's learning the method of catching people who tech roll at the wall, because the taunt will miss them. You have to press taunt twice for it to track a tech roller, and THEN learn the timing of when to press f2,1,4 or b4 or Jet upper.

The best tip I can give you for landing f2,1,4 or b4 after taunt is to remember to press the directional input and the attack button at the same time, because if you delay them slightly, it will cancel the taunt without landing the attack.

Practice taunt 2,3 and taunt df2,1 first, then move into the harder shit.
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>ps4 and xbone are fully up to date
>steam still behind on patches when ps4/xbone are the ports
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>>182282523
>trusting harada whose best friend is ono
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>>182282167
he's sniff posting right NOW
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Can I get some tips on Dragunov's sneak cancel?
Do I for example press f2df then as soon as I press df press u1 or do I delay the 1 after the u?
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>>182282076
I'm not fond of stoners
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>>182282765

You delay the 1 slightly. Don't press u1 at the same time.
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>>182282712
I seen the newly discovered lore of Eliza.
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>>182278691
finally someone with decent taste
>>
I want to tongue punch Asuka's butthole
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>>182272390
The christmas theme in Tekken Revolution
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>block a low
>let go of the joystick
>delay my buttons from a fraction of a second
>press my WS punish
>a motherfuckering down 1 or 2 comes out

reeee
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>>182279008
rage is such a garbage boring fucking mechanic
i hope there wont be another solo tekken rage game ever

>>182279253
t7 is the sfv of tekken though
similar shitty business model
dumbed down some stuff
incomplete roster
esports
i wouldnt be surprised if evo numbers are also cut in half next year
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>hwoarangs command list
I wonder how far I could get just mashing 3 and 4
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>>182282823
Do you think the frequent gay advances made towards aris are in jest?
Because they kind of give me the creeper factor.
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>>182283548
according to this general, yellows at worst.
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>>182283442
>dumbed down some stuff
What's been dumbed down???
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>>182283442
Only throw breaks were dumbed down. Even then some chars still have throws u need the proper break to challenge
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>>182281697
>>182281707
Have some tech with your back to the wall using CH f+3, gives a taunt attempt if they get caught. Or you can just use the usual shit and get wall combos.

>>182282520
You can do taunt that way, but I prefer to do dash into taunt, the general effect is the same you just add an extra input into it.

>>182281868
Don't worry about them, they're not needed to be good, but to be honest the furthest I care to learn it is up to taunt~b+4 and taunt~f+2,1,4.

>>182282041
You don't lose out on that much damage to be honest. The BnB I use is:
CH f+3; SSR~d/b+2; 2; b+2,4; (S!) b+3~f~4,1,2
Which gives 64dmg, the spike combo gives 54dmg and has a guaranteed d+4 afterwards for +8dmg, so it's worth trying once (and given the escape isn't obvious they'll probably take the qcb+4 on the ground for even more damage than the above BnB).
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>>182283224
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>>182283442
Get over it kid Julia is never coming back
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>Characters without a WS launcher

How do you do it
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>>182283618
Throw breaks. But that's a good thing
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>>182283880
i might have been going crazy or training mode sucks, but i think if you do f+4,1 spike as an ender, you get a free qcb+4. not sure if it's legit, though, i don't play bryan.
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>>182269286
How hype is evo going to be? Just the fucking pools of RevMajor contained more hype than every TTT2 tourney combined.
https://clips.twitch
.tv/PerfectArtisticBottlePicoMause
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>>182284091
hopkick
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>>182284184
Works if they don't quickrise with back, if they do quickrise then it'll get blocked.

I've heard that a qcb+4 on the ground can give a possible getup trap by doing:
qcb+4; bb+4
but I haven't tested it properly. I imagine you can get caught out by tech rollers.

For min-maxing you can get CH qcb+3 into bb+4 for 2 more damage than the standard, it needs to be buffered though.
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>>182284441
Can you even hopkick a blocked snake edge? You have to stand up
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>>182283576
Well Aris was pretty gay for Kayo police
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>>182283880

>You can do taunt that way, but I prefer to do dash into taunt, the general effect is the same you just add an extra input into it.

Yeah, I think you're right. They might have changed dash taunt to be more lenient with tracking, but I remember back in T6 you could whiff taunt alot.
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>>182284594

No, you can just press uf4 without standing back up or even crouch canceling.
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>>182284594
You can do whatever you want, snake edge on block is -26, so you have time to crouch cancel and hit him with your biggest fuck off launcher.

>>182284732
Tekken 6's was always a bit more lenient, you needed to do a micro-dash to taunt to get it to track, too deep and it whiffed. In TTT2 they changed it to the current system that requires the deep dash to hit.
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>>182284494
oh ok i just didn't test thoroughly.
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>>182284917
>>182284918
Oh, guess I must have missed it in the tutorial
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>>182282076
Because he is boring to watch, honestly. Don't get me wrong, he is entertaining enough at first or in short bursts, but it gets old quick. He seems like he might be fun to hang out with, but on stream or youtube he just constantly makes the same jokes. The stupid ass comments that constantly popup are similarly distracting and detract from the game play as well.
>>
I don't really get how to use Xiaoyu rain dance. All the moves out of it are just too slow and I get punished. Not to mention they can see me go into it
>>
>>182285208
Yea. I wasn't asking you.
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>>182285363
Don't reply to tripfags.
>>
>filter lucifer posts
>1/5 of the thread is gone
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>>182282076
too much Josie, honestly the most boring character to watch
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>>182285363
It was an open question, so technically, you were.
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>>182285516
>filter him
>talk about him anyway
Neck yourself
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>>182273319
>it's the games fault I didn't break one singe throw
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Which one of you fags is a hwaoring with 500 wins in player match and is named donald duck
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Why is it called ''Snake Edge''
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Picked up based old man as a sub/potential main. I'm working on getting the top 15 moves/EWGF/Wavedash atm but have no idea what my gameplan/win conditions are. Any good resources/googledoc for gramps?
>>
What is zai doing on atp stream?
>>
>>182286075
hidden your post to be honest, your pic is creepy
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>>182284619
I wonder what happened to that qt
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Aris should customize his characters, I know he did in Tag 2
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HEIHACHI DID NOTHING WRONG

https://youtu.be/wfh6beGPS3I
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>>182274978
Mfw I am unironically using a mayflash
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IM SO HYPED FOR EVO I WANNA SEE TOP 8 RIGHT NOW
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>>182269512
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>>182286780
Loser. All that shit is max cringe
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>>182287057
You have to go back

>>>/out/
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>>182286494
no one want to look at your gay creations
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>>182286494
I have nothing customized
Not even the title card
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>>182273394
bruv..
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>>182287242
I don't have the HUD customized cause that shit distracts me but I do recolor the default outfits and maybe add shit on my back like that golden ring on Heihachi's back
>>
>>182273394
Literally /ourguy/
>>
>>182287442
Nah, Lucifer's /ourguy/
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I really like Gigas
I wish he wasn't shit
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>>182286543
>video literally made by a retard casual "may as well be max" fan that knows nothing about the tekken story and told a watered down piece of shit story from the worst retconned perspective and knows absolutely nothing
>he admits to being exactly this in the first minute or so

Boy, I'm going to kill you.
>>
Another serving of spicy peppered beef.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siRVVpxkMqc
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These King Jae impression posts are getting a good chuckle out of me for some reason. Keep up the good work.
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I want Asuka to pin me down.
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can you react to dragunov down 2? i feel utterly bamboozled everytime he puts me in blockstun.
>>
>>182288304
why does lili look sad in this pic, she should be happy
>>
>>182288393
She wanted to be on top.
>>
>>182288345
I guess its a good reason for why they spam it so much even at top level.
>>
>>182288345
Pretty sure it isn't. That thing is faster than a Bryan low soccer kick and nobody blocks those on reaction.
>>
>>182288202
jaeposting is top tier shitposting
>>
>>182288345
No. It is the reason why dragunov is top tier
>>
>>182288345
Kind of. It's 18 frames so if you're certain he'll do it then you should be able to react to it.

In reality though. No.
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>>182273394
bruv miguel is so sick
>>
I'm struggling to win many games as Xiaoyu but I find her style way too fun and free
Life is suffering
>>
>>182287578
Oh my days
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>>182289054
They ruined her with that garbage Street Fighter gameplay and those horns
>>
The reason tekken has a lot of input lag is to make things harder to react to, right? Like the fastest move in this game is 10 frames outside of that weird Yoshi move. So if there was little to no delay everyone would be blocking these slow ass lows on reaction right?
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>>182289310
ttt2 and earlier games had 6 frames or less, i think 5 had like 4f. people still got blown up lows.
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>you just lost to rucky chrory
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>>182289837
SEEEEEEE YOOOOOUUU NEXT TIIIIIIIIME

BYYYYYYYE
>>
Whenever I get a Xiaoyu mirror the other guy never rematches, feels super bad because they're always super fun.

Also, how many of you guys on PC dodge Xiaoyu if you see her? I'm wondering if it's my connection or some other factor preventing me from getting matches (after seeing player name and character etc.) or if people just hate playing her that much.
>>
>>182290078
>>182289837
Why is she so cute? I can't even get mad when I lose to her.
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>>182290329
Are you the same Luci from bbg
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If you are in the tournament please get on Discord.
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>>182290796
I should never have made this webm
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How the fuck is a fighting game, with this severely disappointing lack of single player content, 60 fucking gigs?
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How's this Heihachi combo?

it's easier and does more damage than what I could find in video tutorials
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>>182291042
I hope you like hundreds of useless item customizations
>>
>>182291148
Even with all the customization, it shouldn't be this big. Does Harada/Bamco not know how to compress shit? What the fuck. Are the things from the season pass going to be 5-10 gigs all on it's own?
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>>182291086
It's not a Heihachi comb without at least 3 otgf's
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>>182290852
It's too late, it's already been spread through reddit and twitter
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>>182291276
Oh I just realized thats probably not possible anymore.
>>
>>182291086
Seems ok, in any case a combo you can do completely consistently is a lot more valuable than one you frequently drop.
>>
>>182290796
how the fuck is that fair exactly? dude can just do the same button press with minimal timing and get a 50% damage combo?

if the patches remove dodging characters i'm done with this game
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>>182281124
why not keep playing feng then
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>>182291253
Everyone stopped compressing after bluray became standard.
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>>182291584
There's 38? characters, ofcourse he wants to try others
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>>182291549
not to mention he has a launcher off of his armor moves
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>>182291549
Rage, counter hit, and wall?
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>>182291549
he hit the wall thats why he died i thought
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got so mad i uninstalled the game

wew lad
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>>182292059
yeah wall or no wall you shouldnt be able to press the same button at that distance

not sure if he could even roll out of it
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>>182279654
fighting games are traps.

You pick it up hoping to have some fun, and eventually realise fighting games aren't about fun. They're about memorising shit and improving.

At this point quitting seems like the optimal thing to do if you don't want to devote hours of your life into practising and improving just be a "average" skill level player, yet quitting, even though you're not having fun, is hard to do because you don't want to give up on something you invested yourself into.

Sounds like I'm projecting, but I just used "you" in this form to embody anybody who's in a similar situation

I really don't want to invest so much time to get better at this game anymore but I don't want to quit because improving is addicting, even if there's no actual reward for improving, other than a high rank, a tournament win, or pride. I'd go back to League or Overwatch, but something always makes me want to play this game each day, even though I'm not enjoying anything.

Hopping onto online after practising movement/combos/launchers/pokes and certain matchups only to get stomped by a matchup you haven't learned yet is just frustrating; the only thing keeping you attached to the game is a sense of pride saying "I lost to this but I'm going to win this matchup eventually", which isn't FUN.
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What did the bears do to you?
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>>182292315
Hit me with a roll that 100% looks like a low but hits mid

Hit me with some stupid forward meme slide

Exist
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>>182281124
I find yoshi to be really fun. His pokes, mixups, stances, mindgames, and evasion are kind of similar to Feng. I'd suggest just messing around with him.
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Was Bryan's CH qcb+3 changed in a patch or something? It seems to give a completely different animation in that combo video.
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>>182292549
it doesn't give a combo on ch anymore, just face up? knockdown
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Tfw can do ewgf
Tfw no ew gf
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New to fighting games. Not struggling with learning. I'm improving slowly. My first 12 losses came from the first day I bought the game, where I thought all you had to do was mash and I was ignorant to anything else.

I'm noticeably getting better, but not enjoying the process at all. Yoshi's the only character I really like playing, and I'm learning a lot about the game with him, but I'm just drudging through this miserable process of improving with hopes that when I "git gud" I'll start really enjoying the game.

Should I drop Tekken? Or should I keep pushing through this initial learning phase with hopes that I'll eventually enjoy the game?

First fighting game btw.
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>>182292231
Just did some testing in training mode, he could have avoided the last hit only. Side rolling up gets you hit 3 times, not doing anything gets you hit 4 times, holding up gets you hit indefinitely.
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Why does Snake Edge get so much notoriety in particular? Isn't it just a slow-ass sweep?
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>>182292624
I see. Looks like df+3 is the best follow-up to it now?
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>>182292993
yea that's fucking bullshit lmao
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>>182293006
new players cant block it
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>>182292295
learning is fun.
solving problems is fun.
learning to solve problems is fun.
sounds like you enjoy none of those things, but they're really fun and enjoyable things that apply to more than just fighting games.
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>>182292775
fighting games take a while to get good at. You're looking at around a couple hundred matches until you begin to understand whats going on, and 200+ losses before you can have an effective gameplan.

It's up to you if that's worth it to you.
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>>182292775
Stop being a whiny bitch and keep playing. Either you commit or don't, it's all up to you
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>>182292775
see >>182292295
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>>182292775
is alrdy 7 tekken games friend i pretty much expected awful start for new players
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>>182293006
haha yeah... slow....
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>>182293006
it's hard to react to online
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>>182293006
it's been around since tekken 3.
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>>182293073
you might get a mid soccer kick guaranteed but idk, don't play bryan
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>>182292775
The Tekken lover and fighting game fan in me wants to tell you to keep pushing on, but honestly if you're thinking like that then you're not really going to end up enjoying yourself.

But you already dropped $60 on it and are probably past the refund period so you should just keep at it anyway to see if you actually do change your mind.
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>>182292775
If it is your first fighting game why don't you mess around in arcade or treasure mode before going head first into online knowing nothing.
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>>182292775
Youre just awful. Quit fighting games. It is clearly not for you.
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>>182293385
>>182292775
>>182292295
Fighting games a lot more fun if you have friends that you can lobby up with and chill and joke with. Like getting hit with a rage art is no longer that rage inducing cause you can laugh with each other about it. Whereas if it was a random hwaorang with the name xXxyoloswagxXx you might get tilted.

I would not play a fighting game without friends, as it's primarily a social type of game.
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>>182291445
I found this. 8 more damage but the timing is more strict
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>>182293883
>all those wgfs
My autism!
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>>182293172
I think I'll just take it slowly. I'm in no rush to get good, but I think repeatedly getting shit on (learning) quickly takes it's toll on you if you don't give it a rest.

Last thing I want to do is give up on this game, but it's very tempting sometimes.

>>182293184
That's the thing though, committing to it requires a lot of time, which I don't have an infinite amount of. I was just pondering if all the effort is worth it, if I won't get much out of it. Said above though. I'll stick to it, just more casually.

>>182293209

You're right, people with lots of experience in the game will always have the advantage against noobs like me. That's okay though, because I can always reach that level eventually, it's just the process is horrible.

>>182293385
Yeah I'll just focus more casually on it now. I tried to learn to quickly and was disappointed. I don't want to drop it though, so I might as well take my time with learning it.

>>182293461

That's what I'm currently doing. Just practising my mechanics slowly. Learning matchups is a whole new story though.

>>182293556

Sometimes I think that, but my pride doesn't just let me quit on a game so easily. Now i'm in this mental predicament where I'm torn between accepting the fact that I'm bad and actually focusing on pushing through it and improving.

>>182293810

Luckily for me my one friend just got into Tekken, I have a feeling he'll refund it, because of the way he is, but I'll try to see if we can be training partners of sorts.
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>>182294080
fix your reddit spacing dude my eyes
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>>182293883
that's pretty much the best most consistent combo. not sure how it works off-axis, but try that next. then again, you can just go into bf+2,3 after the second wgf then do CD4,4,1.
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>>182294349
>but pressing enter is

>

>

>F U N
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i swear to god breaking throws online is going to make kill someone

i broke all those damn throws man
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Anyone fight against a King player called The Gay Community?

Dude ragequits literally every single time.
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>>182294349
>reddit spacing
this is the 2nd worst new meme, the 1st being cropped porn/hentai.
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>>182294634
>ok i know he's gonna do the low ender of this string
>hold down back
>get hit by the low
HARADA
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>>182294750
>cropped porn/hentai
>new
>meme
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>>182294804
this shit right here annoys me
especially when its Bryan/Kat/Lili
it's like
I see it
I visually fucking see it coming
and i hit down
and yet there I go flying into the air
FUCK YOU
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some jin in ranked literally mashed me into paste as the same rank with just as many wins
on paper we're the same guy but in practice he took every single round in three matches.
he would just set up mix-ups with plus frames over and over and over
i've never felt quite so bad in this game, holy fuck
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>>182294634
>>182294804
>my friend plays king
>learn grab breaks
>know what's safe/unsafe and how to punish them
>play online against shittier kings
>can't do shit
Online fucking sucks
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>>182294946
>>182294804
>>182294634
Yea it's totally the game XD
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>>182295072
meh that can happen dude, I can get perfected one round and perfect him the next round

tekken is all about momentum and if you keep it up the matches can seem a lot easier than they actually were
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>8 winstreak
>Get matched with a """""""""""""4"""""""""""" bar Bob
>It's actually 2 bars ingame
>Lose
I'm fucking done with ranked.
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I took a match of a Yellow ranked player playing his Fighter Kazuya

I'm growing stronger
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>>182295549
Was it me? Like earlier on today
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>>182295892
Happened like 30 minutes ago
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Characters that go straight to my decline list:
Hwaorang
Paul
Akuma
Josie
Eddy
Bears

If you play any of those characters, your rank is meaningless.
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>>182295997
>your rank is meaningless
so is yours
kek
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>>182295549
I beat several times yellow and orange ranks

I still consider myself a scrub
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>>182296159
Well I do too, but I can see improvement.

A month ago I couldnt even do a juggle
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>>182295969
Nvm then
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Anyone here play Law?
Got any tips? I'm testing him out in the lab.
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Which character players do you "honour" the most?

For me it is the Heihachi players. An honest, original character that is god damn Heihachi.
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>>182296541
Welcome to the official Who to Dodge List of /tekgen/.
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>>182296641
Ling Yoshimitsu Katarina are the biggest offenders in my book desu.
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Who do you dodge /tekgen/?

I dodge king, alisa, law, and hwaorang. Anyone else is fair game
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>>182296541
get dss stuff down
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Any Steve frame traps?
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Characters that go straight to my decline list :

Akuma
Alisa Bosconovitch
Asuka Kazama
Bob
Bryan Fury
Claudio Serafino
Devil Jin
Eddy Gordo
Feng Wei
Gigas
Heihachi Mishima
Hwoarang
Jack-7
Jin Kazama
Josie Rizal
Kazumi Mishima
Katarina Alves
Kazuya Mishima/Devil Kazuya
King
Kuma
Lars Alexandersson
Leo
Lili
Ling Xiaoyu
Lucky Chloe
Marshall Law
Master Raven
Miguel Caballero Rojo
Nina Williams
Panda
Paul Phoenix
Sergei Dragunov
Shaheen
Steve Fox
Yoshimitsu

If you play any of those characters, your rank is meaningless.
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Does anyone take this clown seriously?
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>>182295997
>dodging Bears
It really says a lot about your incapability to get gud
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>>182297172
Yeah

1 on block or hit into b1 or df2. Works wonders.
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>>182297282
Definetely for Steve. Definetely for the entire cast.
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>>182297180
Calm down, Eliza.
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>>182297172
literally anything into b+1 or df+2 or flk 1,d+1
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>>182297253
btfo lmao

don't know who that is but I love the jaeman
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>>182297373
What did he mean by this
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>>182296905
Nobody you fuckin shitter
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How in the fuck does the junkyard kick's 3 look like a low
What the fuck is this bullshit
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>>182297510
No I meant Jae.
>some scrub talks a bit of shit
>he gets so upset that he cancels his uber and proceeds to play him for 5 games
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>>182297527
Neutral 1 is +1 for the entire roster, so its a frame trap for everyone
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>>182297657
He's an entertainer. That was entertaining. Kill yourself my man
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>>182297253
Delete this Bruv
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>>182297760
calm down
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*perfects a scrub two times and starts popping off*
what a god
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I'm not the one belittiling random ecelebs
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One of these days I'm going to meet a Lee player and get destroyed because I have never fought him
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>>182298289
EXCELLENT!
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>>182298289
Whats a lee player
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>>182298289
I'm trying to think of what lee even looks like
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>>182298526
EXCERENT!
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>>182298786
Has anyone figured out how the rank up system works?
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>mfw when someone does the 10 hit combo
I'm in vanguard and I still don't know how to counter it
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>>182299146
Asuka's?
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>>182299181
All of them
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>>182299146
>King 10 hit combo
>>
>ling has a low launcher
>jumps over me after
>instant back turn launcher
yeah she's going on the dodge list
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>>182299278
practice
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is black going to stay grey forever now?
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>lili players on that stage with all those floorbreaks
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Howd I do famallama ding dong? Sorry about the 4th one, it got away from me.
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>>182299676
Wait it actually looked like that
Now I understand why people got mad at this during night stages
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>>182299731
>580 frames
>bryanmainslaughing.jpg
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When is a good time to do a rage drive? I play heihachi, and his drive seems a bit slow and predictable. It doesnt give any armour either it seems. You can combo it, but his rage art fits that purpose better.
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>>182296159
player matches are good for us scrubs, you can run into a lot of good players and improve without having to worry about points. went on 12 winstreak to GM when i went back to ranked because the people suddenly felt like ass compared to all the marauders/warriors/brawlers i had been playing in player matches.
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wtf bruvs i thought Aris was on
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>>182293810
>tfw my friends get super smug, talking shit and start shouting lines from their characters as soon as they win one match

i dont know if they're being shitty or if i just get too angry when i lose. it's just banter but sometimes i just want to chill and laugh and say gg
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>>182300185
shut up idiot
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>>182300185
he was lad, you missed him spam the same stupid jokes and same strings with josie again

bagoosh!
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yoshi main, who should I sub?

literally nobody else is that fun to me, I'm taking suggestions.
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What is the average rank of tekgen?
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>>182301302
im an eternal blue shitter
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can't win, not learning

i don't do well self studying either, i need a fucking local thing to talk shit over with knowledgeable people, this sucks cock
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>>182301302
Seems like it's blue/green some are yellow few are orange and there's like 1 that's red
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>>182301302
I'm just a green rank trying to improve
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How do I get faggots off of me as gigas? Like steve or bob can just stick on top of me close range and I can do nothing. They put me in the wall with one combo and then I can't even back dash to get space. What the fuck
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>>182301635
Down
Juan.

Alternatively just block and wait for your spot.
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>>182299529
It's far from instant, grandpa
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>>182301635
>>182301858
Also for maximum effectiveness learn to buffer your command throw from crouching. d/b+1,command throw is the ultimate fuck you sequence
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>>182302132
>>182301858
What about my armor move? d34

is that useful or nah
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>>182302331
It's pretty solid. If you armor something which has a lot of blockstun you'll probably guarantee a 1,2 punish pr maybe even d+2 if you're super early. However most of the time you will just be at + frames. After you armor it's usually best to go for a mixup or frame trap if your opponent is buttonsy
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Is tekken 7 the usfiv of tekken seems like it
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>>182299676
most probably, but you never know, if people keep complaining about it they might do something more specific, they have to sell dlc after all and the people who are most butthurt over not being able to make their waifus hair dark purple are the ones who will buy dlc
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>>182302897
Just take away the option to colour the items that made Mr meme n watch. Ta da!
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>>182301635
Down jab is typically what you wanna go for but remember down jabs can be parried and straight up avoided by some moves.
d/f+3 is your fastest mid at i13, and it leads into a 40 damage string if you counter hit. It's usually my go to when I know they're going to be ultra aggressive with mids/crouching and I can sneak one in.
If they're spamming jabs use b+1, it's a high-crush launcher(it won't crush certain highs though like WGFs).
Beyond that, just try and read what's going on and wait to punish with 1,2. If they're going for low mixups, hit them with u/f+3 for that sweet counter hit and full launch.

>>182302331
imo it's not good for pressure, but good against running attacks. If you're in a situation where they're running at you just throw it out. You deny them the + frames of the running attack and punish them with a full launcher. Works wonders against predictable drag players.
Against faster moves it's useless because you don't have enough time to actually punish them and you just take free damage when you could have been blocking.
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>>182291086

My boy do these instead:

EWGF/WGF, f3, df1, b1,2 S! f3+4, 2,1 -65 damage.

EWGF, EWGF, f2,3 bf2,3 S! f3+4, 2,1
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>>182301472

Who's the red rank player?
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>>182303195
>>182301858
>>182302738
Alright I'll try these out.

Had no idea u/f+3 was a ch launch /low punish launcher
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>>182303417
Ageha?
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>>182299146
Block a couple of hits and hold df and hope it's a true blockstring until the low. If it is you'll automatically low parry the first one. Thanks to the anon who told me this, doesn't work for everyone but it's better than nothing.
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how the fuck do you duck as steve?
am I totally wrong in thinking that it's a major part of his character? is it just a combo tool? people just block that shit or better yet fearlessly smack me the fuck out of it
i can't even understand how people call him unga or whatever in this general when he has numerous invitations to punch him in his smug face all strewn throughout his moveset
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Where's that /tekgen/ Google doc with the stuff on iWR/S and combos / overviews for characters? Its not in the OP even though it should be.
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN DEMOTED BACK TO 1ST DAN HOW AM I THIS FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME
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>>182303236
>EWGF, EWGF, f2,3 bf2,3 S! f3+4, 2,1
That's what I've been practicing. >>182293883
Only it's difficult without electric but I can only get it like 20% of the time.

Would that also be a good combo to do after a ff2 in place of the first EWGF?

I'm having trouble with the CD 4,4,1 finisher especially if it's right after a dash.
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>>182301302

I am red but most of the general is blue or green.
>>
I want Queen Crimson to dominate me!
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>>182305372
Jesus christ, shut the fuck up
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>haven't played 2 days in a row
>don't even have an excuse
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182304782
>Its not in the OP even though it should be
you can thank lucifer for that
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>>182304641
Steve is the opposite of unga.
You have to really think about your offense and adjust heavily depending on what your assessment of the opponent's mental state is.

You need to be able to make them scared of challenging your offense by showing them your counterhit buttons, and you need to display that they WILL take 60 damage into more pressure to the face if they press something, until you feel that they've got their lesson. Only then you can go for the ducks into ext dck f+2 and such. Only then you can go for the slow-ass lows Steve has out of PAB and FLK. You need to constantly be analyzing what's going on in your opponent's mind when you're on the offensive, and it's not as simple as a 50/50 mid/low mixup, since oyu don't get much reward out of those at all. Your reward comes from slowly breaking down you opponent with stray lows and jabs until they get frustrated and either go into complete lockdown, allowing you to go for the only real mixup Steve has (ext dck f+2/ext dck 1, for a high guard break vs a mid), or finally attempting to get you off them, which is when you need to pounce and counterhit them into a big boy 80 damage CH confirm combo, which are hard as balls to do.

Steve isn't an easy character to play, not only because of his stances and the lack of universal tools that every other character enjoys, but because he has to work the hardest for his wins.
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>>182305647
>steve is the opposite of unga
>his normal strings literally ch launch and are safe
lol
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Is there an easy way to know what my characters CH moves are?
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>>182305157
yeah that's fine to do after ff+2
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>>182304641
>how the fuck do you duck as steve?
f+3 f+4 lmao
It can also be done out of certain moves/strings.
1,1,2 -> Duck
d/f+2 -> Duck
WS+1,1 -> Duck, to name a few

>am I totally wrong in thinking that it's a major part of his character? is it just a combo tool?
You're not wrong. I would say it's important that you understand how to use it if you want to come closer to maximizing his offensive potential.

>people just block that shit or better yet fearlessly smack me the fuck out of it
Obviously you shouldn't just be throwing out duck out of no where unless you've got a read on your opponent or are trying to whiff punish something.

There are multiple moves in Steve's moveset which you can transition into duck, which is useful as it can make certain moves safe, allow you to build momentum or start offense or greatly decrease the recovery frames on other moves allowing, etc

>i can't even understand how people call him unga or whatever in this general
Unga is a word 3rd dans use to describe characters they cannot beat, pay them no mind and do your thing
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>>182304782
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q/edit?pref=2&pli=1#heading=h.kzgxevy80bc3
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>>182305717
Turn CH properties on. Go through moves.
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>>182305505
Can you do me next?
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Post your tunes you listen to while in Ranked.

https://youtu.be/_b_zT6mdN3c
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>>182305715
Yeah, and those strings have no mixups in there. It's all highs and mids.
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>>182305157

CD441 is really inconsistent, I recommend just doing CD41 instead. Other good combo enders are f2,3, or df1,2
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>>182305695
I like the way she dresses
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>>182305893
your mixup is your fuckin meme dodges when you back off or randomly cancel the string

it's pretty unga dude you can just randomly do strings back off hope they whiff and keep doing em all the way to the wall on ch
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>>182305695
Oh no! Looks like she's trapped in a tumblr gif!!
>>
does startup frames in frame data include the frames needed to input certain moves?

like back/forward moves should take 1 extra frame, no?
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>>182305048
worry not matey, for there to be gods, there must also be men, and indeed for there to be men, there must also be bugs

we're under the bugs

i don't know why some are good, and some are bad, why some are smart and handsome, others dumb and ugly, only that we imagine the universe to be a scale and it is indeed something much more complex and much less fair
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>>182305849
Thank you.
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>>182306045
it's the number in parentheses for startup frames longer than the other one
for example, ewgf is 11f without the motion but with the motion becomes i14 at fastest input
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>>182306045
No because idealy, you inpiut f and 1 on the same frame. f,F2 would take an extra frame though.
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>>182305993
Do you even realize that what you're saying right now is that Steve has to stop the offence, get out, and "hope" they whiff something? Those "meme dodges" are exactly that, a risky meme that will get you 15f launched or d/f+2 counterhit mid launched if you pick the wrong time to do it
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>>182305874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIC0aQ56ASE

>>182306046
i got by into 2nd dan i was on tilt for a while there. if im going to be under the bugs im going to shoot for the top of wherever that is
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>>182305048
What rank you were? Please don't say green ranks
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>>182306231
When would the motionless frame data be relevant if Tekken has no buffering?
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>>182305695
she has a good succ
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>>182306336

i cant get out of dans senpai
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>>182306379
some moves can be buffered, stuff like giant swing or instant while running moves
but no quarter circles or crouchdash-style moves
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>>182305874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOngRDVtEQI
I'll never get tired of this song
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am I doing it right?
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What do you guys do when you get burned out?
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>>182306657
no the motion is b,d/b,d,d/f,f,d/f+2
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>>182306657
No, Its a half circle forward motion. Slide your thumb on the d-pad from back to forward hitting all the inputs.
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>>182306657
you're pretty close, anon
ideally after the first b~b to start the backdash, you only want to alternate between d/b and b
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>>182306759
i fucked up the joke it's d/f+1 at the end please delet
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>>182306868
That's how the db input tends to look like on pad.
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>>182306972
oh
then you're good
have fun, anon
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>finally win two matches as Jack without cheesing it due to lag
>its not really fun fighting defensively and barely winning
>it's tense as fuck and not fun

That's enough for one night, don't want to have a fucking panic attack
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>>182306657
Post a webm.
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>>182306734

Go to the gym, go for a walk, draw, read, play some animal crossing or DMC, make some tea, get some sleep, come back the next day and rip my hair out trying and failing to hellsweep Asukas and Pauls, rinse and repeat. im having a great summer
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>>182306734
hydrate, smoke a cigarette, see how i feel. if i'm into it after that. i keep going. if i'm just getting bored and lazy, i stop.
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>>182307058
that tense feeling and then winning solely based on my own merit is what i live for.

step it up a notch with Kazumi where you have to be aggressive and you have even fewer tools than jack[/spoiler[
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Garcon, can I get two orders of hype please.
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>tfw got to yellow with Gigas because nobody can consistently break my throws
>I'd like to think I can play solid if I have to but I usually can win with tick throw setups so I don't really know for sure
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>>182306734
Listen to music, read something, play a mobage for a bit, watch streamers, cook, masturbate to Eliza
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As Asuka I can't make
DF2, FF2,3, -> anything
connect against Chloe

this shit seems hella unfair
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>>182307391
bruv gigas i fink he good bruv
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>>182307616
It hits kind of late, dont give up
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Let me get this right. There's about 7 frames of dealy so If my opponent uses a 23 frame low, I have 16 frames to react? Is this correct?
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>>182307719
its impossible
only against chloe too wtf
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>>182307635
Ayy lmao I just realized my feels guy looks like KingJae
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoD566W16qA
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>>182307342
But I hate her whole tiger-shooting gimmick. Also I want to git gud at the OTHER robit
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>tfw you cant get out of 3rd dan in ranked
>and treasure battle is too hard now because you have to fight purple cpus

time to uninstall
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>>182307848
You sure? I've just done it like 3 times
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>>182308172
i just have no idea when to time it
need to see her hitboxes
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>>182306734
Work out 3 days a week.
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>>182308350
Well, Im beginning to notice it goes a bit off axis, df2 ff2,3 1,2,4 is guaranteed though. Try that instead
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>>182308412
1,2,4 sucks though unless you can setup the tech trap and im not that level yet
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>>182272718
holy fucking shit, I didn't look at Heihachi's customization options. Thanks anon.
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>>182308514
I understand that but if you're having issues its what you should be going for. Besides she gets running 3 after
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>>182308058
i mean obviously don't use it. i just like it because it looks cool but it's for like fucking around with your buddies and as we saw at Rev, clearly not part of Kazumi's gameplan.

Oh you wanna play the OTHER robit. Not THAT robit.
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>>182307616
You get a tailspin just fine.
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>Playing asuka
>Lose because ff1+2 didnt come out
fff
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>tfw you finally accomplish your goal of making it to green by beating your longtime albatross Law
feels good. onto the FFXII remake tomorrow.
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I want to play a new character but the thought of going through the learning process for another month is keeping me away
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whats the point of turbo mode in treasure battle
it just fucks everything up
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>>182309386
Yea pretty much this
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>>182306657
If you are on pad, this is what it's supposed to look like. Yours need work.
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is jdcr a bonjwa?
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What's the difference between cd and f,d,d/f?

I looked up cd which apparently translates to f,d,d/f. But sometimes a guide uses both notations.
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>>182309914
Not him but I must be doing it wrong somehow then. Playing as Eliza and these inputs barely move her. Maybe I'm doing it too quickly?
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whats your longest treasure battle stream
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>>182310267
f, n, d, d/f is a crouchdash input
cd or crouchdash is just easier to say and describes the characters movement
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>finally get fighter after struggling to move from Marauder for 40 matches
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>>182310291
https://www.twitch.
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Starts at 05:49:54. Best explanation ever for pad players.
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If Kazuya's Perfect EGFW is The best move in the game, why isn't he the best character?
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>>182310356
streak? like 90 wins or something
it doesn't actually matter beyond the first 5 wins so that kind of discouraged me
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>>182310267
>>182310443
forgot to add that that input does not become an actual crouchdash for some characters, yoshimitsu for instance has f, n, d, d/f inputs but doesnt have a crouchdash
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>>182310460
Because a high, that you can sidewalk being the best move in the game doesn't make sense.
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>>182310460
because you have to actually do it
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>>182310564
>yoshimitsu for instance has f, n, d, d/f inputs but doesnt have a crouchdash

Funny story, the guides I read listing both f,d,d/f and cd were Yoshimitsu ones.
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>>182310460
high attacks can never be the best in the game by virtue of being high attacks. ewgf is pretty fucking strong, but being a high is a huge weakness. not to mention it track one direction and even then not super well.
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>>182280062
>Pros don't like RA
>Every match in the top 8 had at least 1 use of rage drive
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How do you put up with any of the custom health gauges? Only the lightning and G Corp ones are tolerable.
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>>182308797
>Oh you wanna play the OTHER robit. Not THAT robit.

Do you mean Bryan? I am still too green to learn to use crazy ol' taunt Jet Upper robit
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>>182310454
Thanks. I'll give this a look.
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>>182310869
I would never use anything but my Tekken Girls life bar

and nameplate

and title border

2d is all I need
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>>182310903
I mean I thought you meant the OTHER robit. Girderman is cool because you can like learn his basic shit and go far with that and start implementing the big taunt Jet Upper mess when you've got his other stuff down and by then you're probably good enough to do it.

jack attack
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>>182280062
>pros don't like rage art

I see you didn't watch top 8 at the most recent tournament.
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>>182309386
>>182309818

No, the main hurdle is learning how to play Tekken.

If you understand the game, picking up characters isn't so difficult, as long as they aren't Steve, Nina, Mishimas or like Hwoarang etc
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>>182310949
He is the first person I've heard elucidate it so succinctly. His "input cheat" makes it so easy.
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>>182311148
It took me two months to learn I have a ch hop kick mid as gigas. I don't think you understand how hard it is to learn characters buddo
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>>182288304
I want to give Asuka a chili enema and make her hold it in at school.
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>>182311148
>picking up characters isnt difficult as long as they aren't [ALL OF YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTERS}
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>>182311148
What if I want to pick up Bryan? The character overview says he's advanced. I've gotten to Grand Master with Jin and I'm getting a bit bored with him
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>>182311148
This.

When you realize that every character can be successful at the fundamental level, you can quickly pick up any character because Tekken doesn't have as big of a focus on character specifics like other fighting games.
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>PC release peaked at 18k first week
>dropped to 3k daily after 1 month

this is a dead game in PC isn't it
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>>182311148
>tripfag says dumb shit
I've already seen this one
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If you KBD with

B n B n QCB n B n QCB etc

Does that leave you vulnerable since you are pressing down after neutral? Like how do you know you are doing it right so you can't get hit
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>>182311709
Yeah that's your problem. You've been playing for 2 months?

All characters in tekken play the same except Steve. Get good with one and others will follow. Get good with others and your main will inprove like it's nobodies buisness

If you're not playing minimum 5 characters you're not playing tekken. Ideally you should be playing 10-15 chars well
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>>182312006
Advanced? The fuck? I mean, Bryan's skill ceiling is really high because of the potential of unblockable b4, damage and the combination of being a fairly unsafe character but he'll definitely teach you all of the fundamentals you need for Tekken.

He really is a character you can start with and constantly set new goals specific to Bryan.
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>>182312530
yes, it's imperfect
it also doesn't work with sway characters (nina, paul, bryan)
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>>182312648
Don't actually go play 15 characters but he's saying that you can play every character basically the same when you understand how tekken is played and what you need to be successful with any character.
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>>182312530
>learning qcf shortcut
Just do it right from the start.
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>>182312649
>Keeps saying Bryan is unsafe
>Doesn't post rank with Bryan

Fucking shitter
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>>182312779
I have lots of trouble doing Db but QCB feels ridiculously easy
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So honestly would I be wasting my time trying to main Lars? I don't really want to waste my time learning someone mediocre and just get blown the fuck out by legitimately better characters
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>>182312869
Don't waste your time just play Bryan
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>>182312842
Are you on stick or pad?
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>>182312827
Really doesn't matter since I've been playing Bryan since TTT2 and every pro Bryan will tell you the same thing along with all of the resources for learning how to play Bryan. But alright. You got it.
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>>182312869
Just play Josie
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>>182312648
>If you're not playing minimum 5 characters you're not playing tekken.
What a stupid fucking post
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>>182312973
Oh man now you're saying rank doesn't matter? Fuuuuuck you must not even be green ranked LMAO kill yourself boyo
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>>182311709
You can learn lil things like this by looking at frame data or watching other players.

You're probably focusing too much on the character aspect and failing to understand that once you know what is required for you to win and that if you're able to apply fundamentals to literally any character, you'll win no matter who you play.

Why do you think there are so many players out there who play multiple characters each at a very similar level.
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>>182312952
>>182312952
keyboard
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>>182313046
No, I'm saying that my rank in T7 isn't going to be an accurate reflection since TTT2 has been out for 6 years and 7 has been out for a month in the US. If you want, I can play ranked 8 hours a day to get my standing of 6 years back to prove a point when you could just go read anything from even better Bryan players than myself.
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>>182313263
Oh I play on stick. Everyone says that keyboard is easy for precise inputs so I would have assumed the normal input for KBD would have been easier.
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>get to greens
>fight green Asuka who only does strings into parry
Things I discovered through that fight:
1. Josie's superman punch is actually an elbow move
2. If you're not green yet you have no fucking excuse
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>>182313581
>2. If you're not green yet you have no fucking excuse
fuck off I can't even get past 2nd dan this game is brutal
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>>182313581
Rank is almost fraudulent from the fact that you can still choose who to fight and rank up against.
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>>182313326
GO READ FRAME DATA. PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO PLAY BRYAN UNSAFE.

The tools you use that are unsafe are fucking db3(-12) qcb3 (-14) df3 (-26) df1 (-10) df23 (-13) ws3,4 (-10)

Now what kind of dumbass would be using df2,3 when the safe extension df2,1 exists? What kind of retard finishes double knees all the time. And what kind of MONG uses snake edge?

Literally what the FUCK are u even saying that Bryan is unsafe?
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>>182312827
i think he means that bryan's pressure is not ever safe or extended. lots of his main moves have good pushback or ability to delay that can make them safe (you don't want to take the risk of hitting in between delays) and even threatening, but a lot of it is still very minus or punishable. but that's also kinda the point since he has plenty of counter hit launchers and big whiff punishers from range 1, most notably orbital, so when it looks like it's okay to check him or throw something out to gain some momentum or take your turn, you die.

and you get impatient because of all the jabs, db+3, low soccers, df+1, df+2 adding up just as pokes. then the frame traps work even better. but if you consistently backdash and step well to avoid f+3 and b+1, he has to play slow and patient and actually just settle for the pokes to slowly whittle you down unless he gets a f+4,1 or qcb+2,4 whiff punish. both of which are unsafe.
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>>182312530
Down blocks lows, I think
Hell I have no idea how neutral guard works, either it simply doesn't block some moves or it only blocks when your character completely returns to neutral animation
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>>182312649
>He really is a character you can start with and constantly set new goals specific to Bryan.

This x100000. Bryan at high levels takes some crazy shit but you can straight up start playing Tekken with Bryan and always have new goals to set.

He's fun, too.
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Why is ranked full of lag but player match is fine
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>>182313802
cuz muh rank
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>Jab
>Jab
What comes next?
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>>182313948
If he's not retarded, backdash or sidestep
If he's retarded, throw
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>>182313948
Df1 into rain dance shenanigans
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>>182313802
You have a wider pool of people you can be matched with.
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>>182313948
Snake edge
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>>182314090
Nephew explain why going for a throw is retarded when the opponent is clearly willing to block highs?
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>>182313702
>Now what kind of dumbass would be using df2,3 when the safe extension df2,1

Because df21 is mid and high that doesn't jail. So, you need df23 to mixup and get a CH when they blow you up for using df21 too often. I don't recommend it but Bryan is not comparable to any of the safer characters in Tekken.

Man, I'm not going to keep doing this because you aren't going to listen to me no matter what.
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>>182313948
d/f1
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>>182314342
Do u know how hard it is to duck and launch df21? They can't "blow u up" just like that.. unless you're truly just spamming it. But why not mix up df21 with just df2 or df1?

Bryan is one of the most safest characters in tekken bruh.

Also, if u want me to listen why don't u go boot up tag 2 and show me your Bryan rank? If u don't wanna show me ur T7 one I don't mind. I've played thousands and thousands of games as Bryan so I'll acknowledge your skill with him just by you showing me your rank.
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>>182269552
>no Bruce
>yfw Josie replaces him forever
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>>182314291
High risk/low reward
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>tfw can't cd consistently no matter how hard I try
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>>182314291
cause they can duck it? and if they're good they'll break it?

unless the throw break will put them in a corner you probably shouldnt
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>>182314876
Good
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>>182288304
I feel the roles in this photo should be reversed
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>>182314746

>people in the year of our dear lord 2017 thinking rank means shit

FT5 him and stream it.
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I'm trying to do Yoshi combos and his finishers are making it hard for me to pull off. I can execute the beginning and middle parts of the string well and the b2, 1 part of the finisher but I can't hit them with KIN f2. How do you put it in there? I see everyone else do it instantly but I can't get it in without some delay on it.
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What's the correct KBD input?
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>>182314746
>>182314342

Just play a FT5 Bryan mirror you shit heads.
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>>182312761
I love this about tekken, it's all fundies with some exceptions
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>>182307953
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>>182314746
What? Punishing a mid high that doesn't jail is some standard shit. If you know what it is, you're going to default to blocking df2 standing and crouch because you can react to the 3 if they go for it and interrupt.

>But why not mix up df21 with just df2 or df1?
Yeah true. But that's not a bryan exclusive thing to do for pressure.
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>>182315121
Rank matters man. More than you think. Look at the leaderboards, they're all well recognizable and tournament players

Anyone that shows they have a high rank has my respect. It's not easy to climb up. If the anon saying Bryan is unsafe is some red rank Bryan then u know what? I'll fucking admit my fault because obviously I'm missing something about tekken that makes me think Bryan is safe

Imagine he's a silver rank Bryan who is telling me he is unsafe when he's just spamming snake edge.

Rank holds weight in tekken
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>>182312489
that would make it the most alive fighting game on pc i think
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>>182314957
Why do top players get hit by throws?
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>>182315479

I've seen hundreds of shitters in Fujin+ and plenty of tournament players who don't give a shit about online and are in the dans. It is basically meaningless.
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>>182315479
Bruh, why would you even THINK that I'm over here, bombing out SNAKE EDGE? and saying that bryan is unsafe? Are you INSANE? You know what, gimme a month, I'll give it to you.
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Is Akuma any good, or does he just not work as Tekken character?
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>>182315441
The animation for df21 is very hard to duck and launch. Unless you know the pattern and are sure they're gonna do it then yes u can duck and launch it. It's like a hellsweep. Usually u make a hard read based on the opponents offensive patterns.
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>>182313948
if i'm playing alisa he jabs again, punches off her head and gets rocket punched across the stage
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>>182315598

Throws are reactable in Tekken. That doesn't mean they won't hit. They're a great option but they look have risk just like doing anything. Don't listen to the dudes who say don't use them. Using a 1+2 break throw on ranked with take you to red ranks because people suck.
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>>182315598
Because throws from behind cannot be broken
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>>182315689
df21 is not a hellsweep. What the fuck. The mixup isn't even close.

If Bryan throws out a df2, he's either going to stop there and be -5, go for the 1 which is the faster option and is a high or go for the 3 to counterhit you if they EVER do it. No shit, things that you've never seen before are harder to deal with.
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>>182315603
This argument sounds like hurr durr I've seen an unattractive guy with a hot girl.

Literally what? Maybe the fujin is fucking around in player match or the Dan is a smurf. Why would u compare blue rank (literally top 1%) to Dan's (lowest rank)

Fucking lol you're retarded

>>182315639
It was just an example comparing red and silver. Hell don't even provide proof of your rank bro just SAY anything about your rank in tag 2 and I'll be quiet. Seriously.
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>tfw not sure if I want to pick up Josie, Lars or Nina on the side
choose for me lads
my main is xiaoyu
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>bryan is spamming snake edge
>hop kick it every time
>laptop is lagging and drops half my inputs
>eat most of snake edges
>lose game to snake edge
who wants to donate money for me to buy a new desktop?
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>>182315657
he's really quite good, just plays really different to other characters, especially online you should get tons of free wins
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>>182315898
play Nina so you have at least one high IQ character
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>>182315898
the world needs more ninas
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>>182315897

People like you are guaranteed to be trash. Literally guaranteed.
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>>182315897
Yeah, I agree with you that rank does have some weight. Anyone saying that they are *MEANINGLESS* is being retarded. I was in the blue ranks. Yakza was the highest I actually hit then I started to go to locals, did poorly and quit until T7.
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So ya'll garbage kids gonna deathmatch on stream or what?
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>>182316098
>>182316131
guess that settles it
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>>182316287
meet me at the dump tonight kid
ill death match you irl with a wrench KID
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just picked up tekken 7, never played a 3D fighter before

see me at evo in 2 years, screencap this post. "tyler" will win evo 2020
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>>182317103
Good luck tyler
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>>182316205
This is the anon saying Bryan's unsafe? U made it to yaksa in tag 2? I'll shut up ^_^
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>>182317103
Are you korean?
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>>182317187
thanks josie

>>182317218
america number one, my grandad killed koreans in a war once. this is destiny.
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>>182317103
better see that ass at evo or else i'll KBD to your house and bash your head in with my mayflash stick
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Looks like somebody forgot to dodge all Ling's :^)
I hope the webm works
This guy wasn't actually that bad. He at least had the decency to play a few sets
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People should throw more. Yes they are breakable on reaction, but guess what. Breaking a throw is NOT a punish. Because people know you can break throws, most people don't duck them so against most people they are a nice low risk, medium reward option. They are excellent against defensive players who are willing to block all day. In addition to that 98% of players don't watch hands and break throws on reaction, they guess. Therefore, mixing up between your regular throw and command throw(s) will give decent results if they are the majority of players who don't duck throws. Finally if you are up against the 2% of players who can consistently watch hands and break throws, guess what. You should still try to throw them anyway. Why? If you are mixing up your throws and being unpredictable with when you throw and they break all of them, they are spending a lot of mental brain power on stopping throws. This is brain power that is not being used to keep you out of a certain spacing, try to counter hit you, dealing with your lows, not whiff punishing you etc. Basically their attention to your throw game weakens the rest of their game and lets you go for more things. JDCR gets hit by throws against other top players. Saint gets hit by throws against other top players. Knee gets hit by throws against other top players. This is because top players know how to implement throws in their mind games. Sure they will tech 90% of the throws, but guess what. As I said teching is not a punish, it just resets to a neutral position and sometimes even side switches. Top players almost never duck throws. If they duck throws hit em with your sick mids. Hell launch em if you're feeling brave. Point is throws are not useless. If they are buttonsy enough to not give you the frames to go for a throw, sidestep and launch their bitch ass or CH launch them.


tl;dr - Throwing is an excellent tool against defensive players who don't duck a lot. Throws aren't useless.

t. guy who uses hella throws
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>>182317630
>I hope the webm works
hey if you lower the resolution you can webm in higher fps or higher kbps
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>>182317660
I'm not gonna read that wall of text but I agree.
Throws can be good to just break momentum and regain some ground. Even if they're broken
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>>182317748
Thanks, I'll do that. It is pretty choppy. Also the capture on PS4 is kinda shit too imo
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>>182317660
Who the fuck thinks that throws are useless?
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>>182317660
>>182317750
>playing kazuya
>throw opponent but they break it
>d/f 2
>get the counter hit

Satisfying
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>>182317630
>Somah1980
You feel big beatin' up on an old man? Do ya?!
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People should throw more. Yes they are breakable on reaction, but guess what. Breaking a throw is NOT a punish. Because people know you can break throws, most people don't duck them so against most people they are a nice low risk, medium reward option. They are excellent against defensive players who are willing to block all day. In addition to that 98% of players don't watch hands and break throws on reaction, they guess. Therefore, mixing up between your regular throw and command throw(s) will give decent results if they are the majority of players who don't duck throws. Finally if you are up against the 2% of players who can consistently watch hands and break throws, guess what. You should still try to throw them anyway. Why? If you are mixing up your throws and being unpredictable with when you throw and they break all of them, they are spending a lot of mental brain power on stopping throws. This is brain power that is not being used to keep you out of a certain spacing, try to counter hit you, dealing with your lows, not whiff punishing you etc. Basically their attention to your throw game weakens the rest of their game and lets you go for more things. JDCR gets hit by throws against other top players. Saint gets hit by throws against other top players. Knee gets hit by throws against other top players. This is because top players know how to implement throws in their mind games. Sure they will tech 90% of the throws, but guess what. As I said teching is not a punish, it just resets to a neutral position and sometimes even side switches. Top players almost never duck throws. If they duck throws hit em with your sick mids. Hell launch em if you're feeling brave. Point is throws are not useless. If they are buttonsy enough to not give you the frames to go for a throw, sidestep and launch their bitch ass or CH launch them.


tl;dr - Throwing is an excellent tool against defensive players who don't duck a lot. Throws aren't useless.

t. guy who uses hella throws
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Anyone got some general throw setups that work with most characters? I already know shit like jab and then throw but curious what everyone else around here tries.
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>>182318004

1980 was 67 years ago.
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>>182318047
Fuck you don't copy my sick 2000 character essay to shitpost. I make good points!
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>>182315429
What's the point in that? You can just jump then punish him.
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>>182318060

>Become +3 or higher.
>Grab.

There you go.
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>>182318306
yeah the post is fine but youre gonna get shitposed at because you dont know what line breaks are

press enter a few times next time you write a long post. careful, not too many line breaks or else youll get shitposted at for "reddit spacing". youre playing a dangerous game, anonymous
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Name a more obnoxious character than Ling. I'll wait.
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>>182318461
Bob
Eddy
Bears
King
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>>182318461
whichever character you play
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How the fuck do you beat Gigas?
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>>182318686
By hitting him more than he hits you.
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>>182317103
there's already a tyler who is fairly well known on tekken zaibatsu
you're gonna have to change your first name.
sorry, jason
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>>182315603
This is probably the stupidest fucking post I've ever seen in this general. Tekken 7 is not tekken tag 2, especially on PC. People can actually play tekken on PC, so good people actually belong to where they belong and garbage stay garbage. Just fuck off already
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>>182317103
>>182318819
this anon is right
no hard feelings, hank
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>>182318747
gigas hits really hard though so you need to hit him way more
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>>182318967
He's also slow as balls and has no good midrange damage. 1,2 is unsafe so Gigas players will check you with raw 1. So just crouch, launch them and keep fucking their butts because when they get going, you're about to get fucked up.
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>>182318819
>>182318935
yeah well when im the evo champ and he's mr zaibatsu it'll be him who has to reclaim the name
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>>182318836

I am saying that I personally know tournament top 8 placers who have played like 8 matches on ranked and said fuck it. Tekken online is a completely different game and some people don't tolerate it. And by the same measure there are loads of high ranked shitters who abuse many aspects of online and can't hold a candle offline.

Stay free, my friend.
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Asuka tried to please old men for money, but she forgot to charge so often she just started doing it for free.
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>>182319083
Yep. I hate when people think they can be top 100 in a leaderboard and think they can body people at a tournament. Most of these people are just playing player matches with their other buddies actually learning shit instead of grinding for e-peen.
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>>182319080
best of luck to you frederick
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>>182319218
is that dakota?
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>>182319378
its dotacapitalist
dota is for fags desu
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>>182310460
kaz's offense is a meme. He has bad pokes and bad frame data.
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>>182319083
Maybe if you play on a 3 bar connection. However, you can play amazing games if you have a strong connection with the opponent. I feel like you're basing your impression on other people's opinions. You should try it out yourself if you haven't and see if your opinion changes.

Personally, I can block lows and do movement perfectly fine online as long as I get an honest 4-5 bar. There's the occasional jitter, but it's understandable.

Also, if you're on PC NA, would you like to play a game?
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>>182319538

He's easily top 5-10. They just didn't give him an obnoxiously good mid because that would make him a boss character.
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>>182319618
I have a strong connection with your mum and our tekken matches are terrible. Good thing she can deep throat like a champion
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>>182319618

I've played online plenty. You can't get around the fact that there will be more latency online and certain things like reacting to throw breaks will be more difficult. It's a different meta and people who regularly play on it devise strategies for it whereas offline tournament players don't bother.
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Does Nin still play?
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>>182319687
Oh yeah, he's good. But he's not the best character in the game because he doesn't come online until his opponent fucks up. But once they fuck up, oh boy.
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Who's got the best move for practicing WS punishes on lows?
Should I just set Bryan to Snake Edge?
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This is how koreans and japanese rank the mishima's

Kazumi > Shit >Djin > Kaz > Heihachi.
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>>182320051

You should practice punishing a bunch of different lows to get the feel of reacting and properly punishing. Things like snake edge can be punished by basically any move in your movelist.

Try setting the CPU to do like -11 low, -13 low, -15 low, stagger low.
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>>182320126
What the fuck are you even talking about.
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>>182320126

Did this randomly change in the last month? Japanese and Koreans both consider DJ the best, Kaz close second, Heihachi 3rd, and Kazumi by far the worst.
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>>182320126
No, that is how anon shitposts on 4chan
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>>182320286
It did change in the last month. Nobody knew how fucking cheap Kazumi's pokes were until someone did it well in the tournament. Even the RevMajor proved Kazumi was a fairly strong character against basically everyone.
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>>182319794
Hmm, well by the fact that there are known Koreans placing in red ranks, honest hard work and normal tekken gameplay can easily place high ranks faster than anyone. There might be some bad people abusing their way into high ranks by virtue of lag abuse and such, but Knee being Byakko and Low High being Suzaku is a testament that rank can't be simply disregarded. Good tekken players can beat laggy/bad abusing people.

Basically, there might be bad players in high ranked, but I believe that there are more good than bad, especially with how well this game was made on PC. It might depend on the region, though.
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>>182320126
>kazumi
>mishima
whut?
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>>182320482
Are you pretending to be retarded?
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tfw graphics are so shit i cant tell if im ewgf'ing or just wgf'ing since the lightning doesn't appear on my body but sometimes it comes out of my fist.
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>>182320535
I forgot about kazumi's electric, hellsweep, wavedash, OTGF. My bad. Retard.
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>>182320425

Bad characters can do well in tournament. Look at Jack for fuck's sake. He's considered to be in the bottom 5 and Saint has been fucking everyone up for two years with him. Everyone knew Kazumi's pokes were good from basically day one. That doesn't make her a top character.
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>>182320584
does your character yell something like DORYA or OHYEAH? If not, you didn't electric.
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>>182320649
>bad characters
>Kazumi
Kazumi is not a bad character though. Even knee acknowledges how safe most of her strings were. Her fucking 2,1 string is a +7 on block.
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>>182320608

tfw Kazuya isn't a real Mishima because he doesn't have OTGF
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>>182320741
>Her fucking 2,1 string is a +7 on block.

Picked up
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>>182320789
and wavedash, and electric, and hellsweep. Turns out not having most of the mishima toolkit means she's not a mishima. Strange that.
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>>182320741
It's -5, the fuck are you talking about. It's +7 on hit, learn to read frame data charts.
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>>182271842
It's been more than 30 days where is she then

I don't even want to play her just unlocked shit for her and want to get rid of the damn exclamation mark
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>>182320851
Sorry I got it mixed up.
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>>182320741

People have been playing Kazumi for two years+ and have consistently been saying she's in the bottom 10 or worse for all of that. She has strengths like any character in the game. Chloe is technically the worst, probably, but she has insane damage and wall carry. Kazumi has busted a busted df1. Good players can make them work great like Saint does with Jack.
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>>182320887
they said after 30 days not in 30 days, different thing
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>>182320608
>Jinpachi is not a mishima

boo fucking hoo.
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>>182320997
He's not. Jin isn't either. There are three mishimas, DJ, Kaz, and Hei.
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>>182320839

Devil Jin isn't a real Mishima because no OTGF. He's really a Kazama because he has three ring circus. It all makes sense now.
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>>182320928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE
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>>182321069
Jinpachi Mishima and Kazumi Mishima are not Mishimas?

Oh my god what do we call them now?
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>d/f 1
>crouching d/f 1
>f f+1

Are there any other useful spacing/poke moves for Jack?
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>>182321080
uhhh... DJ has TGF man. what do you think cd1 is?
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>>182321150
just characters? Mishima is a character archetype in this game, like shotos in street fighter. Sagat has a DP, a fire ball, and a forward advancing kick, but he's not a shoto.
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>>182321150
well kazumi is only a mishima at all by marriage right?
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>>182321167

21, db1, ff1, uf2, fcd1, ff3, df1, b3, ss2. Those are pretty much your bread and butter buttons in neutral.

df2, ff1+2, ff2 for whiff punishing.
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>>182321171

That's TGF. Not OTGF. Heihachi is the only one who has that.
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>>182321384
Sorry it's one in the morning and i made a typo. mah bad.
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>>182321171

That terrible feel when Kazuya only became a real Mishima in Tekken 4 with an electric. And that electric only launched on counter hit so he was basically bootleg Mishima.
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>>182321284
Dude, Jinpachi is the original Mishima and he's not even a Mishima according to /tekgen/ lmao.
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>>182321478
and like, everyone that plays tekken. Mishima is an archetype, like shoto, or puppet character.
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>>182321549
Except the original post here was talking about the lineage not the archetype.
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>>182321596
No it was not
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>>182321596
literally, no one uses "mishima" when discussing gameplay to refer to the lineage. Mishima in gameplay terms is quite well defined.
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>mfw today I learned Heihachi is the only tried and true Mishima
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Will ling become a mishima if djin fucks her?
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new bread

>>182321785
>>182321785
>>182321785
>>182321785
>>182321785
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>>182321685
Shut the fuck up TMM, your autism is showing.
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>>182321820
Who's the best shoto? Sagat, Guile, or Ryu?
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>>182280882

He's good, but not great. He just loves Tekken and is very knowledgable/experienced. IIRC he was more of a Soul Calibur player back in his day.
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>>182321854
Balrog obviously.
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>>182319378
>>182319476
who?
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>>182318386
Jump is easier to fuck up at least going by reactions on 4chan.
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Katarina needs to be nerfed. Fuck this cheap bitch.
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>>182322810
What rank
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>>182324329

I would be Grand fuckin' Master, but I got demoted by some Katarina playing bitch.
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>>182324634
I'm grandmaster too and let me tell you we're just super bad. Katarina ain't too good if you know how to punish her. That being said just dodge the fast meme characters like hwaorang, law and katarina
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>juggernaut at 300 games
>still juggernaut 300 games later

im getting over tekken if i keep hitting into this wall, what the fuck do i do guys to get out?
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>>182326201
isn't that yellow rank? Idk how you get over that without being actually smart and reading your opponents. I'm pretty ass at execution (don't like autistically practicing) but my reads are amazing so I made it yellow.

Watch some pro players?
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>>182312489
players new to the series probably impulse bought it and gave up because they don't want to invest ridiculous amounts of time for minimal results.

I can assume. I've had a few buddies who bought it in the first week, played about 5 hours and never touched it since.

The game just isn't fun for most people. Hell, I even wonder why I put so much effort into it sometimes.
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