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>Choked
>>181892285

>App 1.14, Regulation 1.35 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/3044845282383816896

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
http://imgur.com/a/eSXdv/layout/grid

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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FPBP
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Any fellow skeletons still out there?
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Infinite Rolls 3 is shit.
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SL 80 or SL 120?

Which do you like better?
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So I posted this build last thread, didn't get much in the way of replies as to what can be changed/improved

I plan on going more into full casting once I've gotten used to the spells
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does anyone have that webm where zullie does ZA WARUDO?
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>>181959119
>not even hollowed
Memeface undead need to double-kill themselves.
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>>181959167
SL80 for invasions and 120-125 for duels.
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So if I want to turn Irina into a Fire Keeper, I need to give her the Carim and Lothric Divine Tomes, and keep the Londor and Deep (or at the very least not buy any of the dark miracles they provide)?
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>>181959167
60 +6 if i''m honest
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>making a new thread at 740

are you autistic?
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>runs up behind you like a fucking Naruto wannabe
>unsheathes Coldsteel Katana, folded 1 million times by the finest smiths in the Old Iron Keep
>stabs you at speeds exceeding Mach 5
Heh...nthin persunelle, STRfag...
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>>181959342
Stats look fine, I'd switch Llewellyn Shield for Dragonhead Shield though. Also switch Snap Freeze for something that will actually synergize with your build like Homing Soulmass or a healing miracle.
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>tfw DS2 FCs
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>>181959167
80 was always garbage and never a meta. 120 is better for dueling and end game invasions. 50 is better for earlier invasions.
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>>181959631
Aren't they technically broken? I remember hearing something like they move and attack at literally double the speed they're supposed to when the game is at 60fps.
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DS3 Power Within worth it y/n?
Red Tearstone Ring worth it y/n?
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>>181959636

Those are fantastic ideas, thank you so much

I had the Llewellyn shield on for the sake of having a blessed parrying tool, but I can probably practice parrying on a build more suited to it, and use the dagger for backstabs and quickstepping
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>>181959790
Nah, both are nerfed to shit compared to how they were in DaS.
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>>181959790
No, yes if you hotswap when you're in the HP range but not worth keeping it on all the time.
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>>181959905
Thanks.
Do Carthus Beacon and Pontiff's Right Eye stack?
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>>181959993
Yes.
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>>181957717
>>181958295
That build looks more or less fine.

>Are there any immediately obvious ways of improving the build as far as stats go? Taking some Endurance out for more ATT or VIG for example?
You can drop Endurance down to 26, that's a breakpoint with FaP+3. But there aren't many places to put the points back in anyways, except into Int/Fai since the softcap for Dark is 45/45.

>Also, for PvP, is Caitha's Chime better than Sunless Talisman? And how does Crystal Chime perform?
In general Dark Miracles aren't worth building for since there's only four of them. The two Gnawing spells do shit for damage and are only good for the bleed buildup, which doesn't scale at all (they inflict as much bleed at base requirements as they do at 45/45 with Sunless Talisman). Dead Again and Lifehunt Scythe are just pure shit so don't bother with them either. Plus you'd have to find room for Sun's First Born somewhere, and the whole problem with Hexer builds is that you'd have to spread yourself thin with the ring loadouts if you want to use more than the Dark Sorceries.

Sunless Talisman is considered better than Caitha's Chime since their Spell Buff difference isn't that much and Sunless lets you poise cast. Again, Dark Miracles aren't really worth building towards though.

>Also, are there any particular spells/miracles/pyromancies you'd recommend for a 40/40 build? Would, for example, lightning arrow be of any use compared to Great Deep Soul with this build
Crystal Chime is for casting regular Sorceries and Miracles on a 40/40 build. So shit like Soul Spear, Lightning Arrow, and the like. The problem, as above, is that if you truly want the spells to hit hard you'd need to find room in your build for both Sun's First Born and Bellowing Dragoncrest. You can otherwise cast healing Miracles fine since those don't get the boost from Sun's First Born.
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Is there any better feeling than cosplaying havel and popping a great magic barrier right in front of a filthy intfag's face?
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>spam halberd r1 from a safe distance
>instantly roll away as opponent tries to attack you
>resume spamming halberd r1 from a distance

There is no bigger scum in arena. Run away healers and quickstep niggers are way above this.
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>>181959661
Is DaS2 still alive?
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Ring of Favor +3
Ring of Steel Protection +3
Life Ring +3
Estus Ring

Rank these from best to worst for keeping you alive.
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>>181960245
>havel "cosplay"
>magic barrier
You're just another havelshitter.
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>>181960395
>leaving yourself open after attacks
dude get punished lol XD
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>>181960473
Favor
Life Ring
Estus
Steel Protection
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Are you getting ready to have fun this weekend, ashen one?
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>>181960470
Yes.
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>the way those falconer guys run in SOTFS
My sides are gone
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>>181960473
Favor
Life
Estus
Protection

Favor gives you health and lets you use heavier armor
Life gives you more health
Estus gives you more use from each sip
Protection only guards against physical, meaning any elemental damage will fuck you up.
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>>181960132

Excellent! I'll take END down to 26, especially since I'm using lighter weapons. Not sure if I want to take myself to 44 VIG with that or go 42/42 with my INT/FAI

As for the dark miracles, I'm really only interested in Dohry's Gnawing since I found it incredibly for doing co-op boss runs on one of my now retired characters. But good to know that Crystal Chime is more for normal spells/miracles, and Caitha's is fine to avoid

I'm not tooo worried about the need for maxing out damage with both of the spell boost rings, since I have a weapon to fall back on, but of course when I go full caster I'll be using the both to get the most out of it. But only when I've worked out the best methods of guaranteeing they hit

Thank you so much, you've saved me a whole lot of boosting up unnecessary catalysts
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>>181960473
What a shitter
The Rings don't give you skill
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>>181960470
No. Even when I did my SotFS run through, I don't think I ever got invaded, and I very rarely saw any summon signs. That was quite awhile ago too, so you know it has only gotten worse.
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>>181960523
go back to sucking seath's scaleless dick faggot
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>>181960245
>full Havel cosplay at SL120
>having enough Faith for GMB
I'll take things that never happened for $2000, Alex.
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I really wish the Work Hook was added to DS3.

I want to plunder people's booty and get hooked on hooking them.
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>>181960523
>>181960245
delet
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>>181960712
Hey it's not my fault you can't get your drake sword anymore.
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is DS locked at 30 fps?
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How much poise do you need to tank a greatsword with a UGS?
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>>181960739
someone literally posted a build last thread

also there is literally nothing wrong with going over the level meta for a cosplay build
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>>181960656
adarki aeldari?!
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>>181960820
You never see him cast it, do you?
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>>181960883
22.22 at 100% poise, 37.78 at 80% if you haven't reset your poise value before a hit.
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>>181960846
If you're talking about PC get DSFix. Just don't go over 60 and be careful sliding down ladders.
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>>181960883
your moms vagina
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>>181960883
>>181961176
I forgot to add that is only if you're using any UGS besides FUGS or Ringed Knight Greatswords in which case the poise needed is lower since they have great hammer poise health.
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>>181961253
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I wish we'd gotten a chance to talk to him before he died.
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What kind of performance can I expect with Dark Souls 3 with a 1050ti and an i3 7100 @ 3.9 ghz?
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>dude everlasting dragons lmao
>they all die
what did they mean by this?
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>>181961204
yeah i just checked the pastebins, sorry about that

>be careful sliding down ladders
is clipping a real issue?
like, it happens very often? or i can play for hours without experiencing it?
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>>181961521
Nothing you poor piece of shit
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Any suggestions on where I should spend stats? It's my first character in ds3, obviously going with quality first and foremost. At this point I'm wondering how many points I should be putting into Vigor and Endurance before enough is enough, and if it's worth dipping into Attunement and Faith to slot/use more miracles.
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>>181961610
People killed them. They aren't everlasting when it comes to getting smacked with swords and pierced with arrows.

Fuckers deserved it.
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>>181961689
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>>181961615
The only one I know of for sure is the one at the Taurus Demon boss. You'll fall through the world and die.
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>>181961615
Other anon here but it's hit or miss. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it won't. IIRC it's only a problem is you slide RIGHT to the bottom of a ladder, so stopping short in your slide should be fine. Thankfully DSfix comes with a hotkey to toggle the 30--60fps (backspace by default I think), because certain jumps can only be made in 30fps.
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>>181961615
60 FPS can fuck up some pathing and jumps too, not just ladder slides.

There's an option for toggling the FPS between 30 and 60, so you can just switch it off for various platforming sections like the Great Hollow.
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>>181961610
It means they were immortal, but immortal doesn't mean they can't be killed. They will just never die naturally.
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Does anybody own the PS4 version of DS3? I really need some help.
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>>181961915
What do you need? I'm trying to earn some more Souls before I take on the Demon Prince again.
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>>181962060
I fucked up. I accidentally bought and then sold Siegward's helmet from Patches. I'm trying to save both of Siegward and Grierat. I need somebody to just drop me the helmet because I can't buy another one from Patches.
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>>181961521
I'm playing it with a computer built in 2014 and a GTX 750 plain. I can run it at 30 FPS and the only place where I experience hiccups is the Dreg Heap. Yours should be just fine.

>>181961787
Pump up Vigor to at least 27, otherwise your build is more or less fine. The only problem is that you went Herald class for some fucking reason, but that only matters for minmaxing if you ever intend to take this character into PvP.

If you're going to use Miracles, either you stay at 15/18 Faith or you go all the way up to 60. For a quality build don't bother putting points into it beyond 15 for Blessed Weapon.
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>>181961787
Stop Vigor at 27 for PvE and End anywhere from 20-30 depending on what weapon you're using then go all in on STR/DEX up to 40.

Since you started as Warrior investing in Attunement and Faith wouldn't really be worth it, you're best just doing pure melee.
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>>181962224
At this time, could you be reasonable help against the Demon Prince? I'll help you if you help me.
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>>181962312
>30fps
>acceptable
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>>181961610
With the advent of Fire, Dragons were "corrupted" with Life
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>>181962370
Alright, but I'll have to load up another character than the one that needs Siegward's helmet.
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>>181962594
Done. Where do you want to meet to drop it? Pass is dsg?
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>>181962312
>thirty(30) fps
>3
>0
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>>181962370
>>181962594
My profile is" xX Edgelord Xx"
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>>181959414
This one or one of the Pontiff ones?
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>ng+
>get to soul of cinder
>it doesn't use your previous champion
Are they even trying?
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>>181962802
A small part of me wishes there was an actual time-stop spell in DS.
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>>181962703
What's the dsg?
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Since when can a ugs combo the 2second swing with a first swing?.
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>>181962889
Might be hard to resolve in multiplayer.
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>>181962703
Oh, I realize you mean password. Okay, I'll drop my sign right before the Demon prince boss fight.
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>>181962850
Dragon's Dogma did this,it was fucking amazing
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>>181963316
Is this the character getting the Catarina Helm?
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>>181963458
Fuck, I really need to get round to finishing Dragons Dogma. Such a fucking fun game. Plus the fashion in it was pretty solid.
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>>181963316
Okay, you good to go now?
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>>181963513
>>181963709
No, that isn't the character that needs the helm. My character is far earlier in the game.
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>>181963772
You just want to hang onto it to mule after this, or should I take it back?
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>>181960473
>Trying a zero deaths run
>Want Estus Ring
>Too cowardly to try the jump
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>>181963227
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>>181963959
Cat ring.
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>>181963959
Use a different character to practice the jump a lot. If I recall correctly, you can just sprint off the edge and land as well.
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>>181962370
Did you finish it?
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>>181963772
You're a fucking hero, my man. Where am I dropping the Helm?
>>181964393
Yeah, we just ended.
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>>181963872
Take it back because I don't know how to move it to my other character. Since I helped you with the boss can you do me a solid and go to an earlier level? Just leave a sign so I can summon you and you can drop the helmet.
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>>181964550
Yeah, where am I going? You helped me, of course I'm helping you.
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>>181964473
Huh, well how about somewhere easy. How about someplace not likely to be invaded like. How about the Cleansing Chapel?
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>>181964805
You got it, just let me get the Demon's Scar. You want to run the rest of the Cathedral while I'm there?
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>>181964884
Actually I already finished up the Cathedral. But I can wait.
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>>181964805
>>181964884
Okay, sign is down by the bonfire in front of Gael, password is still dsg
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>want to pve with my main again
>maybe host an fc
>every boss is dead
>ng++
>haven't bought the dlcs yet
fug
>>181963959
Go to the edge of the ledge and backstep off. 60% of the time it works every time
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Is it worthwhile wearing the Sage Ring for spells that already have fast casting speeds, like Great Soul Arrow and Soul GS?
I can't even notice a difference unless using spells that have GHSA's cast time or slower.
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>>181965075
I don't think you'll be able to summon me if the area boss is dead. Anywhere else open? Maybe in Farron somewhere, at the Old Wolf?
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>>181961859
>>181961871
>>181961874
thanks lads
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At what point in DS2 will a regular longsword outdamage the fire longsword? Also, are whips viable in PvE?
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>>181965208
Yes, compare them with and without Sage Ring and you'll see there's a noticeable difference. It doesn't matter in PvE but in PvP where these spells have no hyperarmor and every second counts it makes a difference.
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>>181965306
I am and can't notice shit, but I'll take your word for it.
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>>181965076
I can't seem to find the sign. And I'm standing right by Gael. Maybe your character is too overleveled? Try putting down a red sign.
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>>181965487
I could have sworn that passwords bypass level locks. Red sign is down.
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>>181965218
Oh, that makes sense. Well the only place I haven't explored quite yet is the area after the Abyss Watchers.
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>>181965628
I just got summoned by someone named Sword of Alm, is that you?
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>>181965573
HAHA! I was right! Red signs can be placed anywhere.
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Hello, /dsg/. New here, but I figured if anyone could give me some helpful pointers, it would be you.

I've gone back to the first Dark Souls to try and play through in a manner I've never tried before: without a shield. I've always kept a medium 100% physical protection shield on me , and going without has been a learning experience. Can't pressure enemies the way I used to, and oh boy are those Balder Knights with the rapiers a pain in the ass.

Anyway, do you have any advice for a turtle abandoning their shell?
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what's the point of scythes? what do they do that other weapons can't?
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>>181939065
>I admire your effort and suggest you screencap this for a info dump image rather than replying with these huge posts, because as useful as these posts are, no one is going to read them as-is and they will be forgotten

Yep, I did that pretty much after I wrote it because I don't want to type it out ever again.
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>>181965842
Kinda fast R1s
Fun to use
Gimmicky
Pretty edgy looking
Bleed buildup (if you care about that sort of thing)
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>>181965713
Yeah, that was me. Thanks for the helmet. Lol, I don't think the Scar does very much damage.
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>>181965959
The gimmick is that it doubles as a Pyromancy Flame. We'll see how effective against the homoprinces.
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Question. Does matchmaking only take my highest upgraded weapon into account, or does it add everything up.

i.e., +6 Bastard Sword and +6 Pyro Flame. Am I SL +6 or SL +12?
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>>181965842
mow grass
reap crops
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What does an buffed Demon's Scar look like?
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>>181966027
Yep, but once again thank you for the helmet. I was thinking I was going to have to start another character.
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>>181966052

Now, there's no such thing as a stupid question, but why would it work like that? So, someone who experimented with a lot of weapons would have a harder time matching up with others

Christ that'd be like a worse soul memory
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>>181959167
SL 50
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>mfw Flamelurker
Stop jumping around you faggot REEEEEEEEEE
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>>181966368
PFS
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>smouldering lake
>doesn't seem that bad so far
>BUT WAIT, MOTHERFUCKIN TRIPLE BALLISTA GOT YOUR NUMBER
>GIANT VOLCANO CRABS ALL OVER ONE SIDE
>A FREAKIN DUNE WORM THAT SHOOTS LIGHTNING BEAMS ON THE OTHER
And I'm out
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>>181965793
1. Level Vitality, if you do fuck up and get hit then it's not the end of the world.

2. Take utmost advantage of two-handing a weapon.

3. If you're not going to block, it might be worthwhile to learn how to parry.

4. Darkwood Grain Ring can massively improve your rolling capability, but also requires you to level Endurance a shitload too (which everybody should in DaS1 anyways since it's the most broken stat in the game).

>>181966052
Max upgraded level ever obtained with a single weapon. There's no going over weapon level +10.
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>>181965208
i dont get this picture
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Who the fuck were these guys? Pygmies?
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>>181966307
>>181966549
Wait, does it count even if I don't have the weapon in inventory?
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>>181966441

Deep breath, think about it

The Ballista has a timing you can memorise, use that

And think, what could a Ballista that size be used for? Maybe that Dune Worm is hiding underground for a reason? A three-round, heavy duty reason?

And the crabs, well there just hardier versions of the ones near farron keep. Practice fighting them. Try strafing right or left of them, makes things easier I find. Remember, it's not a race to kill them unless you make it one
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>>181966642
Read again. Maximum upgraded level obtained on the character, ever. If you upgrade a weapon to +6 and then sell/drop it. your character still counts as having weapon level +6.
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>>181961521
3x the performance of my 750ti.
I get 30-45fps so you will get a solid 60fps everywhere I'm sure.

I have an i3 2120 and it alsways fucking freezes when loading new sections.
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>>181966740
There isn't even a point in fighting them since they're guarding literally only one thing that you can reach without fighting them.
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>>181963043
lol you dummy
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>>181966863

Course there is, revenge from the swamp, and revenge against from for not finishing the "get babby crab to mommy crab" easter egg

Also, you know, practice. Maybe you'll get an invader who wants to lead you that way. Sure be a shame for him if you could dodge the crabs better than he could

No stupid questions, no pointless battles
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>tfw your DeS playthrough was ruined because you didn't know how OP thief's ring was
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You know, for a guy who fought the Demon Prince, Lorian has piss poor fire defense.
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>>181965842
They were supposed to be the Long range + Fast + Wide arc weapons. Fromsoft probably balanced them on the idea that they were AoE Spears.
None of the numbers really work out for them, so they end up being unremarkable in each strength they were meant to have, and ultimately inferior to poster child SS's.
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>play on PC
>play with kb+mouse
>still not sure if theres a heavy attack button, or its the sprint+lmouse
>still not sure if theres a difference between weapon art and skill
>can only do the freeze attack with fiores schytes left hand
>only notice this after i completed the game with 2 characters (a quality and a sorcerer)

am i retarded? half the time the button i set in options doesnt do what it should
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>>181966549

Yeah, my aim is to just level vitality, endurance, strength, and dexterity. (Magic isn't really my thing)

Gonna kill me a ninja and get that ring as soon as I can.

I never parried before this run, but it's forcing me to learn. I gotta admit, parrying a black knight's giant-ass sword with my bare hand looks badass.

>>181966441

Seriously? The ballista, crabs, and dune worm were the least frustrating parts of that place for me.
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try jumping
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>>181967150
>>play on PC
>>play with kb+mouse
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whats the best place to burn a bonfire ascetic if I need Titanite Chunks and Slabs
I got like 7 of em
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>>181967454
Play the game? You get over 20 chunks for a single playthrough. Or just bellbong, that's by far the most reliable method of getting chunks.
Cardinal Tower gives you 3 chunks at trapped chest after the ballista trap
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>die once
>miss some unique items from the area
>die some more
>super-powered black phantoms everywhere
Hahaha ok
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>>181967454
Just strap on Agape and CoC, then run through the Gyrms at Doors of Pharros. Repeat (but without CoC) for the Stone Soldiers in Drangleic Castle (those spear shitters in the room with the Ruin Sentinels and torch Golems)
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https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=nMBc8AzwHuY23H8c
Key for scholar of the first sin, enjoy u faggots
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>>181967642
I know it gives me loads ,but I have my second Winged Spear at +8 and my Infantry Set is around +6 and I cant fucking find the rest for the life of me
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>>181967451
i literally cant play on controllers because my thumb keeps sliding of the sticks due to excessive sweating.
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>>181965793
Get a big weapon with good str scaling. Not using a shield will come naturally. The next step is not using any armor (or at least no poise) while doing so, which will teach you to tack advantage of your weapon's range rather than facefucking everything
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>125
>still bothered that I'm 5 levels over
>really don't want to play the whole game again
The vitality is so nice, but this autism is starting to kill me. I just don't want to run through again.
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>>181959167
I SL 80 for duels and invasions, hate seeing mages, so I don't go to 120 anymore
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>>181967920
Already bought it on the steam sale but thank you far sharing it anyway!!!
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>>181967995
Is this a meme? Someone posted this same thing yesterday.
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>>181967926
Why are you upgrading armor
Why are you upgrading really shit armor like the infantry set
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>>181966635
Yes, servants of the gods
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>>181967920
Thank you anon!
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>>181968136
>Why are you upgrading armor
Resistance to poison and bleed
>Why are you upgrading really shit armor like the infantry set
It looks nice
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>Really hate the covenants in DS3.
>really wants covenant items
What do I do? Farming items from creatures takes for goddamn ever!
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>40 dex 40 int darkmoon longbow
>does less damage than 40dex regular bow
JUST
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>>181968115
No. It's still me. I'm way too broken up about this and need some outside opinions on how I should go about this.
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>>181968320
Deal with it. Either grind or deal with PvP.
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>>181968341
Get CE and lower your level you autist.
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>>181968341
If you're actually serious don't worry about it. You're not the only one playing at 125. Don't give two shits about some madeup meta.
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>>181968460
I'm on PS4. I'd happily lower my level if it were possible.
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>>181968308
>Resistance to poison and bleed
Thats like, a really really really bad reason, you are throwing upgrade meterials and souls into armor that will in the end still be worse than +0 armor you find later on.
But still if you insist on going on with it then bellbonging is the fastest way, you can buy infinite chunks once you beat the game
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>>181968327
DID U RIKE IT?
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>>181967961

Eh. I'm not a fan of weapons bigger than I am.

But, I've never used any serious armor, either. Slowed me down too much. Poise? Can't miss what I never had!
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I have a few partially unrelated questions regarding a couple of different characters I want to try out.

What's a good rapier for a nice ponce/noble fellow? What's a good off hand parrying weapon/shield or failing that what's the smallest looking shield with 100% physical block?

For the other character whats some nice, lightweight metal armor, something that looks semi-knightly but doesn't weigh a literal ton. How well do the broadsword and the bastards sword perform, and is there any reason to use them over their nearest counterparts (claymore and i guess longsword)?
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>>181968575
Just make a new character you autist.
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>>181967995
You already fucked up by hitting 120

SL 80 is better due to nothing being softcapped and builds being in the rough
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>>181967150
>fiores schytes
Anyway, this is my KB only setup.
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>>181968690
Estoc. Llewellyn/Iron Round Shield for parrying. Stone Parma is probably the smallest looking shield with 100% physical block.

Armor choices would be Outrider Knight, Knight/Elite Knight, Alva's, Nameless Knight and most of the Ruin Armor. Broadsword is great, Bastard Sword is decent. Broadsword is good if you're a pure STR build that wants to use a straight sword, Bastard is really only notable if you want to use Stomp on a Greatsword and is otherwise worse in every way over the Claymore.
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>>181968690
>What's a good rapier for a nice ponce/noble fellow?
Any and all but the posher one is Ricard's
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>>181968478
>>181968714
Thank you. It only now clicked in my head that I could keep my 125 and make a 120. Depending on when I get paid and my expenses, I might throw up a code for money on Steam at some point.
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>>181968690
>What's a good rapier for a nice ponce/noble fellow? What's a good off hand parrying weapon/shield

You can do one of my favorite builds and use Ricard's Rapier in your main hand and offhand the regular rapier for parries.

>For the other character whats some nice, lightweight metal armor, something that looks semi-knightly but doesn't weigh a literal ton

Perhaps the Harald set.
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>>181968861
>SL 80 is better due to nothing being softcapped and builds being in the rough

Pic related
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>its another quickstep spamming faggotry episode
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>>181968690

Llewellyn is the poshest parrying tool, and not a half bad shield for its size

As far as rapiers go, the poshest is easily the Crystal Rapier, which has the bonus of being one of the best mage weapons going. Otherwise, Ricard's Rapier is literally the rapier of a former prince, so go with that

Broadswords are good if you plan on going for just swing spam and damage, since they're the highest damaging of the three Straight Swords with the stance Weapon Art, though also being the shortest. Bastard Sword is essentially a worse Claymore, with the Claymore being one of the best 40/40 weapons in the game. Lothric Knight Sword is posher anyway if you're going for that look

Nameless Knight Armour, Elite Knight Armour, Alva Armour, Mix in a bit of the Firelink Set if needs be, Herald Armour makes a good squire set and the helm is good for having a visible face while wearing a helmet

Tell us what you're looking for and we'll try to give you what you want
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>>181969315
>harald
He means Herald. The second DLC added a heavy armor set with only a one letter difference. It's also not knightly at all.
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>>181969324
>pchain
>dex
lol
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>spawn in arena
>see guy
>drop hello carving
>tries to rush for a backstab

Why? Do you really want to win the video game that badly?
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>>181969510
>having trouble with quicksteppers'
dude just roll away lmao use horizontal swings
don't lock on ahahahaha
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>>181969581
Not an argument, the original statement was literally that SL 80 build could not reach softcaps and in that pic both Vigor and Endurance softcaps are reached along with the first Dexterity cap which will do great damage at that SL range due to lower standard defenses.
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>>181969313
Are you retarded?
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I'm trying to make this fashion work but the stick neck and popped collar are making this difficult
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>>181969324

Like it, but you could easily take away some of that END and still have plenty. Get it to 26-30, put the points elsewhere. More DEX, or more STR to wield something like the Hollowslayer, and a better parrying tool. More VIG, plenty of options and better places for those levels to go when you're using light weapons
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>>181969751
cool
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Is it just me or does this look comfy? Its like a ball of blankets and rugs with a few armor pieces strapped on.

I'm early in the game still so I don't have much else. Post some comfy looking /fa/ guys.
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I finished harvest valley and am now doing earthen peak, will there be worse areas in das2? All of these boss fights are terrible too, the chariot, skeleton lords and covetous demon were first try fights.
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>>181969845
Why are the necks so fucking long?

They could've kept the neck normal and "stretched" the model when a helmet is placed.
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>>181969581
>whining about PChain
The absorption penalty literally doesn't matter compared to the benefits you get.

>Dex
He also could have gone Warrior and done a 40 Str build instead. His point is still valid.
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>>181969814
No. I'm rarely bothered by things, but when I am, it's like an itch that never goes away.
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>>181969845
maybe I should just go to bed
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Daily reminder to collapse this while invading, some hosts don't expect the fall to hurt them
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>>181969975

Very comfy and smart anon, you even have your din-din plate on your chest for after-battle bonfire munchies
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>>181969868
Oh definitely, the point wasn't to make a completely optimal build though but to show you could reach both survival softcaps and an offensive softcap easily at SL 80. I hate Chain so much.
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Normally I invade but I put on blue sentinel cov to see how being a cop would be.

SL 56 + 6, roughly how long should it take to get summoned right after Pontiff?
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>>181969324
>80 is enough to softcap three stats
What the fuck are people doing @120?
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>>181970043

Could try Vilhelm's Chest, similar colouring with the armour, you get a comfy poncho, and it's not a part of the pisspants armourset which is just a massive bonus

>>181970165

Don't need to convince me mate, I've ran viable sorcery builds at that level with health, reasonable damage and backup weapons
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>>181970228
Going all the way to 66 Str or 80 Dex. That, and building casters that actually have Vigor.
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>>181970043
Try the Sunset chest piece. Might not look good with those leggings though but Vilhelm's helm does
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>>181969510
caestus has worked for those who just spam
L.storm if it's a faith build
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>>181970167
a little longer than what 25+3 usually is, you might want to try Aldrich Faithfuls it's constant invasions 24/7
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>>181970228
Builds that require getting an offensive stat to 60 or 40/40 quality/pyro. Pure STR/DEX are the easiest builds to make work at SL80 due to the first softcap being at 40 in each stat and Prisoner's Chain being stupidly strong now, it's why people saying SL80 should be the meta are in the wrong imo since it would just be 99% 40 STR or DEX builds.
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>>181970375
>already using his sword and helm
I think not. Besides, there's literally nothing wrong with the chest or gauntlets. Only the pissed pants and huelm
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>>181970228

Why, hardcapping three stats silly

Don't you want to experience the full spectrum of possible spells on your caster? Don't you want to be the best healer for your teammates on your faith build? Don't you want to be able to wield all the weapons instead of just some of the good ones? Don't you want to get HUUGE?

Don't you want to have fun?
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>>181969050
So there IS a strong attack, for BOTH hands?
Shit.

Thanks m8, time to learn the game again
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>>181970042
Why not just make a new character now?
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Give me ideas for fashion using the Fallen Knight chest piece. I was thinking Sellsword Gauntlets with it, but I can't think of anything past that. Any suggestions?
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>>181969657
>meet invader
>exchange gestures
>neither of us wants to attack

We need an option to go canadian on their asses and kill them with kindness or a poisoned Siegbrau
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Why does DS2 have the best fashion?

>captcha: calle catarina
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>>181970582

Then use a different helm, I dunno, you're the one asking for advice here

We don't even know what fashion you're going for. Dark Knight, anything with a cape, a good colour mix
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>>181970167
Maybe 20 to 40mins
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>>181966613
Gwyndolin and the Firekeeper traded masks.
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>>181970980
Gonna roll with this for a bit, I don't want to start moving around stats again. And for the record, I was bitching about the neck and collar, not asking for advice
>>181970721
Left hand strong attack will either parry/bash/perform right hand weapon WA with shields, parry with some weapons and attack with some others. You can't actually use the right hand moveset on the left like in 2
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>>181970584
I don't think that way sadly, I believe if you want to go all in on a stat and get it too ridiculous levels like 80 or 66 you should have to sacrifice points from somewhere not just increase your SL
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>>181959772
I don't know about that, but I'd believe it
As soon as you step out into the bridge area there are like four of these fuckers sprinting at ridiculous sanic-tier speeds
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>>181968861
You can easily have 60 or 66 str at level 80. 80 isn't better in the slightest. It is just entirely biased towards pure physical builds.
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>>181971501

Then by all means, do so, but I personally tend to take my build, spend some time at 80 and make it as viable as possible, then when I've achieved that I move on to building for 120. Which considering the consistent use of certain weapons means building to counter the meta, rather than just building for basic viability
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>>181969535
What I'm aiming for is two different characters, one a posh noble sort who looks like they're going with richards and a Llewellyn shield as of now. Maybe a smidge of magic but not a ton.

The other guy I'm aiming for a hyper practical but kind of grungy fighter. A guy in dirty but effective armor, light but still protective, and with a smaller weapon to swing around instead of a fuckhuge sword. Uses bombs and bows when they're pragmatic, may not have magic at all but if he does its probably minimal investment possible
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How do I maximize my chances of getting the Black Knight Sword drop in DS1?
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>>181971939
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>>181972271
10 humanity, 99 lloyd's talismans and wait until sen's. but you got a fuckton of tries at it
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>>181971898
This is a lie though, the lower the SL the more powerful pyromancer/dark is
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>its another totally original epic troll who wears silly clothing, uses dumb or meta weapons, has an obnoxiously bright skintone and stupid face, and spams l1 at all times
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>>181971939

First build I would say is perfectly viable as a melee int build due to the possibility of weapons, but if you're going for Ricard's Rapier then just go 40/40 and use resins for buffs. I'd say you can either go very low armour with that and use Orbeck's Clandestine coat or something similar with a matching set of gauntlets

For medium armour, can't go wrong with the Elite Knight Set, although as you'd essentially be cosplaying Ricard at that point you may want something else

Heavier armour? Wolnir's Crown with the Sunset Armour is fashionable as all hell, although a bit "seen-better-days" so you may want another type of gold armour

Other than that, Herald chest with Silver Knight gauntlets and leggins works very well and has a dashing cape


As for the grungy hedge-knight who gets shit done, Nameless Knight Armour is very practical both in terms of looks and in terms of weight/armour. There's Alva's Armour if you want a sort of "dashing, rogueish" set, Faraam set

I've always liked mixing Faraam's Chest with the Cathedral Knight gauntlets and leggins, works very well, is medium leaning towards heavy and offers plenty of defence. Plus, overcoat for days
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>>181971071
>>181970467

Eh, it's more fun trolling blues anyways.

>invade
>host nowhere to be found
>aldritch and blue going at it
>kill the aldritch
>bow to blue
>Black Fire Orb him as he bows back and straight sword troll
>patches squat

Also, fightclub! Come on in. SL 56 + 6.
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>>181972405
Wrong. Their shit is still just as easy to roll through as it is at higher levels, except now they don't have the stats for a decent melee weapon or stamina to play defensively, and I can now one shot them with my a melee weapon, especially if I use something like a true combo.
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>>181972719
>rolling through a weapon is suddenly easier if it's infused
??????
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>>181972580
>someone isn't taking the game as seriously as I am

What the fuck are "dumb or meta weapons"?
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>>181972785
>people STILL responding to him
jesus christ
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>>181970893
I'm waiting for someone. We're going to play Dragon Quest together. I'll start a new character when I can, though.
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>>181972785
"Their shit" is referring to their spells, genius.

>>181972930
I know, right? You would think they would know by now that they are always going to lose when they have me as an opponent.
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>>181972930
What if he's just using a phone and replying to himself?
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There is something so jovial about spamming block.
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>>181973017
So i'm to assume all physical builds use 0only bows and crossbows?
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What Soul Level do you prefer to stop at for Dark Souls 1, 2, and 3?
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>>181972874
It's not that they aren't serious it's that they come off as obnoxious twats, that's all
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check this shit out
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>>181973236
80-90 since its hard to get further without excessive grinding
200-230 because its harder the further without excessive farming
0 because I'm poor
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>>181973236
120
150
120
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>>181972580
I wear waifu shit to get that exact response from try hards.
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>>181973567
Imagine our shock.
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>>181973485
>14 END
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>summoned for Vordt
>host is a female cleric
>is nothing but a fountain of healing
>me and the other summon takes Vordt down slowly
>estus runs out
>every time my health gets low
>"ding ding" host has heal on the ready

I thought to get a screenshot just in time. Thanks HealingAngle
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>>181973567
>I'm a degenerate
>B-but only ironically
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>>181973665
What's even better is that I win 99.99% of the time, and you know it just burns them up.
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>>181973485
>14 end
dude this isn't bloodborne, what are you using?
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are halberds slower 1 handed? I've been using lucerene and crescent axe on builds since release and I've always thought it looks slower.
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>>181973743
the weapon i chose only has a 1-2 combo so there's no point in wasting more stamina on a hit i won't land
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>>181973820
Was there ever a post more useless than this
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Okay, so I gave Siegward back his armor set. What exactly are the do's and dont's of having him save Grierat? Do I talk to Siegward first in the kitchen? I know I'm supposed to avoid using the bonfire in the Manor nearby.
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>>181973485

Why not use a P-Chain, and hit the cap for STR while having 44 VIG? You'd even get more END with zero stat investment
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>>181973820
>Angle
thats cute
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>>181973485
How retarded can you be
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for a quality build what should i be leveling up first?
im guessing vigor but i dont know when to stop.
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>>181974227
should've waited desu
Patches can save greirat with a confirmed "tell him where greirat went" option
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>>181974164
Yes, yours.
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Was there pride/nobility/honor/happiness in the Souls world during the cycles between when the gameplay takes place? It's all so dreary and hard to imagine linking the fire will accomplish much when every game takes place in a complete shithole.
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>>181974227
bump. im also wondering about this.
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>>181974367
Get Vigor to 27 for PvE and 20-30 END. Then get STR up to 26 and DEX to 40 before raising STR higher.
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>>181974427
I know that. I usually do that. But I accidentally bought his helmet so he can't do it anymore. I know Siegward can also save Grierat though.
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>>181974227
>What is google
kys
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>>181974367

Caps are at 27, 39 and 44 respectively

Get to 27, get to the point where you can both equip your weapon/weapons of choice and use them effectively (Damage softcaps and END softcaps for this will depend on the weapon) Then go for the 39 VIG softcap, then get to 40/40, get whatever END you need and if you have 5 levels left over after that, feel free to hit 44 VIG

Plan this around using a Prisoner's Chain (5 in VIG, END and VIT) and, unless for some reason you're really strangely specced, the Ring of Favour and Protection. That way you won't overcap a stat
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>First boss soul in game gives you the strongest pve/pvp breaking weapon

What did From mean by this?
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Hello, do you guys have a namefag problem?
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>>181974852
Crutch for bad players.
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>>181974852
Vordts is only good for twinking
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>>181974572
I looked up the walkthrough but it's just a tad bit unclear. I just want to make sure that Siegward saves Greirat.
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>Take golden shekels as gift
>Buy 7 undead charms and farm mimic in tower
>No helmet

Was I rused?
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>>181974456

Presumably between fire linkings in the past, there's been times where the world hasn't been a complete shithole.

But by the time of 3, it's been done so many times that there really isn't much left to save. The First Flame has gotten too weak.
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>>181974515
cool thanks
>>181974685
i have no idea what you said but thanks anyways
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>>181974852

Nowhere near the strongest unless you're lower level

At the 20-30 range it's outshone by the Dark Hand, which has the benefit of being able to get a hit and a roll in the time it takes you to swing, nullifying your poise WA

80-100 it's logically outshone by strongest STR weapons such as the Splitleaf, since the damage you'll be getting from the frost proc will be outshone by other, easier to hit weapon combos

120 and up is the same as previous, except now most of the weapons outshining you are getting buffed with Blessed Weapon on pure melee, or Lightning/Dark/Darkmoon blade on Buff hybrids. Even the rare Strength Int build is outshining it, as it's easier to proc frost with snap freeze buildup and CMW is basically the same as DMB anyway, just spikier


It's a good weapon, don't get me wrong, and I was still comfortably using it endgame on my STR build, but it can easily be outdone on the one build it's strongest on, and outshone yet further on meta builds like STR/FAI

And you need a weapon to go with it, it's not set up in a way that allows it to deal with overly defensive players that prefer to counter hit
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>get to the catacombs bonfire
>summon a guy
>we get to the room before the bridge
>open the shortcut and run down the hall to kill tsorig
>as i'm backstabbing him the phantom runs past me with 6 million skeletons chasing him
>we try to fight them but it's a futile effort
>2 skellies stun me and tsorig pounds my boypussy
>panic roll to the bridge and cut it
>we somehow survive
>climb down, i hope he knows that i'm going to cheese the demon
>demon runs up the stairs and attacks me instead of backing off
>roll away, where the fuck is the phantom?
>do a running attack
>get a mimic hurricane kick to the face
>really considering bcing this guy
>thankfully it attacks the demon and kills it
>run across the lake
>he goes in a different fucking direction
>get to the tree before the worm
>he runs directly into its beam attack and dies
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I never believed how terrible the pvp meta was at first. I had only done pvp at pontiffs, however. Just did a few undead matches.

Holy shit.

Its nothing but r1/running attack spam and pointing down
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>>181975324
You realize you only need 1 coin per 5 charms, right?
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>>181975901
>pointing down

I see the plebs at undead haven't figured out the Patches meta.
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>>181975901
Of course they are going to push your shit in and point down. You are a memer not a PvPer. They have no reason not to do simple shit like that until you can prove to them they need to.

>Do what works until it doesn't.
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Ive had a bad week /dsg/

please tell me to be strong
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>>181976179

Git gud.
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>>181974227
>>181974506
http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Greirat_of_the_Undead_Settlement
>It's not necessary to progress through Irithyll of the Boreal Valley or to talk to Siegward in the kitchen in order to get him to do this, only that Siegward received his armor and has left the cathedral. So long as the player does not enter the Irithyll Dungeon to continue progress with Siegward's questline, Greirat will return to Firelink Shrine safely.
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>>181976002
W-What? You can just spam them on the same mimic without resetting it?
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>>181975901
At least it's not as bad as prepared ganks who struggle to kill you 3 on 1 and point down anyway.
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>just got a smooth as fuck kill on a gold
>press to record the last 5 minutes
>go back to the folder when I can
>it's nowhere to be found
WHERE IS IT?
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>>181976361
>Pop coin
>Throw charm
>Wait a few seconds for item to appear
>Punch with bare fist
>Throw another charm
>Check again
The coin lasts like a full 1-2 minutes, it's more than enough time to reset and gas the mimic 5 times.
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>>181976179
Be strong and don't let a random shitty weekin your I dunno 22 years of existence slow you down.
Remember, in order to improve you'll have to experience defeat, so don't let this week keep you down and realize you've improved.
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>>181975324
You need to wait until the teeth roll back before you get a drop prompt. Waking it up too early just loses you a drop opportunity.
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>tfw when you finish a difficult enemy off with a single knife throw

So satisfying, feels operator as fuck.
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>>181976536
Cancel that, found it. It was in the "desktop" folder for whatever reason. Looking back he had impossible hp, around 1900, not to mention fastrolling with all that shit. How fucking trash can one be?
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>>181977686
Lel fucked that shitter
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>>181977686

By the light it was like he was trying to find something to boost himself up further
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Is there a better feeling than beating a boss with a sunbro and then throwing VERY GUHD stones until he disconnects
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>>181978529
Yes
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>>181978529
Clapping at the exact moment as your fellow invader over pile of corpses of the host and his 729394 phantoms
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>>181978529
"""Sunbros""" are cockroaches.
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>Host at Pontiff's using infinite iframes while his two """downscaled""" phantoms throw vestiges
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How do they keep falling for it, lmao
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Why wasn't the Golem Axe in DaS3
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so how do prevent the firekeeper from cleansing my darksigns?
im doing the ursuping of fire ending and im trying to get 5 levels from yoel. i also know that i need to do this before the catacombs.
any tips or things i should be aware of?
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>>181981332

Yeah, don't give her the firekeeper soul, and if you do, don't take the option to clear the dark sign

>>181981172

So is that a full health kill from that height or do you need to damage them first?
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>>181981330
I don't know but I also don't mind because original weapons > warmed up leftovers.
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>>181981332
you have to ask her, so just do nothing stupid
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What's she looking at with those new Firekeeper eyes?
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>>181974903
>>181974852


Greathammers used to be fucking horrible in pvp before poise was re-enabled. And should you want to use it, you need to advance to Settlement and kill Greatwood before you can transpose it and even then it requires 30 something STR and if you want to wear armor with it, you'll want vitality as well.

>>181974456
Between the cycles it's implied that society is more or less "normal".
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>>181982097
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>>181981724
Aren't like 70% of Dark Souls 3's weapons reused from previous games? There's even like 5 axes from previous games that are identical except for model and stats, one of those could have easily been the Golem Axe.
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>>181981463
It does a lot of damage so if your vig is not good enough you may not survive it
I've seen two people survive it but everyone else dies
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>>181982097
Do her fingers have burn marks on them?
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Anyone willing to help me out with low level Dancer? SL 19, right outside the fog, password: dsg
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>>181965842
They have a lot of reach, a wide arc, high innate bleed (And frostbite if you're into the Pontiff Scythe) and a cool as fuck moveset.

Unfortunately they hit like they are made of soggy cardboard. The balancing on scythes is janky, there's no reason for them to be as weak as they are when shit like LKS exists.
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What's the point of axes and greataxes anyway? What niche do they fill? Especially greataxes, since they just seem like shorter greathammers a lot of the time.
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>>181982725
>aren't 70% of Dark Souls 3's weapons from previous games?

More or less yeah. I don't have a problem with generic weapons like Flamberges, battle axes, Halberds or things like that being from the previous games but I like that most of the boss weapons / unique weappns are mostly new. I was pretty annoyed to see stuff like Ornstein's set making it into the game but being unable to gwt the Dragonslayer Armour's armor. Thankfully they gave us that good stuff in DLC2.
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>>181983170
She gets an itch during that time of the month.
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>invasions are hard
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>>181968690
Alva set

Steel Soldier Helm + Herald Armour is amazing. Mix and match leggings and gauntlets as required.
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>>181983379
I'm more bummed about the weapons not working like dsa uses them.
>dsga doesn't have the stance as a weaponart, even though it has that handle specifically to be held in stance
>we get this lame-ass PARRIABLE WA that should've been the charged 2hr2
>the shield doesn't have the quick 2 bash combo
And why the fuck does it protect from lightning rather than fire? What the hell?
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>>181983273
Different moveset. Greataxes also generally do a little bit more damage in exchange for that lesser reach and combo ability.

Yhorm's Great Machete is both the strongest and longest weapon in the game, but it can't combo at all and eats like 50 stamina per swing.
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>>181983436
>that entirely unnecessary first 15-30 seconds
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>>181982731

I thought fall damage was percentage based. And could be mitigated somewhat by high DEX
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>>181983971
They're there to make a point
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>>181984328
It is and that guy is wrong, both Vit and Dex reduce the amount of fall damage you take and fall damage is percentage based.
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what did he mean by this?
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>>181981172
Muh nigger. I've had so much fun with this thing.
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>>181983879
I wish From had just said "fuck it" and created Bloodborne with Dark Souls world and aesthetics and had like 30-50 weapons but all of them being unique transforming weapons like in BB.
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>>181984527
The point being that your webm is shitty and poorly cut, and thus isn't worth watching?
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>>181984530
Thanks anon
The more you know~
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>>181984847
>>181981172
Where are these magic hosts that die to Force and millwood greatbow? They are never in my invasions.
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>>181985018
The WA is for hitting people hiding behind cover, you'll rarely find anyone stupid enough to just chill out on a ledge after they've been invaded.
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I plan to start the Souls series and get the platinum for each games, so in which order should I play them ?

In the releases order ? Or do these games have a timeline and it's better to follow the timeline ?
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>>181984712
Got a problem with soup? You should try it.
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>>181985018
For me, low level Cathedral always works, using Force on that little bridge outside. It's even better if you spawn near there and act AFK
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>>181985190
release order every time
when do you ever play a series not in release order unless its super long?
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>doing arena
>defeat guy 2 times
>bow respectfully both times
>get him the third time some time later
>defeats me in a close match
>starts pointing down like he actually done something
>scrub the floor with him in the next rouns

I'll never stop getting amused by people who act like they're hot shit when they win ONE match.
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Didn't know this til the other day but apparently stomp cancels out force. Dunno of there's some hidden poise number that's required or if it always does. I'm sure some autist would know.
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>>181985190
If you can't play Demon's definitely start with Dark 1 first. Demon's is definitely worth a playthrough though if you have access to a ps3
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What's the best GS for a pure STR build?
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>>181983436
Did you make it extra long for that ad money
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>try to help shitters with midir
>they die 10 seconds in
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>>181985190
Release order, going backwards in the series hurts because in spite of all the memes later games add too many quality of life mechanics that feel really bad to play without.
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>>181985347
I don't know, I never started a series with so many games before
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>>181985640

Wolf Knight or Black Knight
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>>181985456
>sunbro
Fucking disgusting.
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>>181985190
The timeline is release order.
I would recommend playing is kind of a release order so
Demon's Souls -> Dark Souls 1 -> Dark Souls 2 -> Dark Souls 3 -> Bloodborne.

I would save Bloodborne for last because it feels like a breath of fresh air and mechanically superior to Dark Souls 3 in my opinion at least.
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>>181985190
Release order
Recommendable games that aren't Souls that you should also grab if you like them are Bloodborne , Nioh and Dragon's Dogma
Kings Field is a prequel to Demon's Souls but thoughts on it are waried so you might skip that one
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>>181985190
You could start with any, the story doesn't much importance.
The games share lore though, and 3 pays homage to 1 a lot. You'll either hate this or love this if you play by release order, or you simple won't care if you don't.
2 is the oddball of the series.
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>>181985456
Nice throw
>>181985640
Clay probably, or bastard. If you mean ugs, ckgs if you like godpokes, otherwise the greatsword
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>>181985640
Black knight
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>>181985018
You do it at snowfield, but I am not really one shotting or anything and rarely manage to shoot them off a ledge
I mostly stalk them for a long ass times, shooting when they fight enemies or when they don't see me until they run out of estus and then I just keep shooting
Most of the time they die to enemies but there is plenty of enviromental deaths like in the wolf cliff and making them do a poor attack at the top of the tower
All in all, I enjoy the feeling of stalking the host and harrassing it
it helps that I have to much free time
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>>181985190
DeS -> DaS 1 (Prepare to Die edition, not that you can really find anything else these days) -> DaS 2 (Scholar of the first Sin, preferably PS4/XBOX1/PC) -> DaS 3 (Fire fades edition if on console, collectors edition or whatever on steam) - > Bloodborne (Old hunters edition)
Those are the GOTY "game + DLC" bundles
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Are there any advantages to the Claymore over the Bastard, or vice versa?
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>>181985997
I wanted to start the Souls game after finishing Nioh and also because of the crazy promotions on the PSN

Isn't Lords of the Fallen also a Souls like ?
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>>181986342
Claymore has a 1hr2 poke.
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What did this game do better than Dark Souls 3?
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>>181986405
Lords of the Fallen is a trash "souls-like" with obnoxiously overdesigned high fantasy armors and enemies. Perfect example of someone trying to aim for the souls niche to do a heartless cashgrab.
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>>181986557
Size, more progression paths, more fun and unique weapons/movesets, better balanced magic. Arguably slower more stamina management heavy combat.
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>>181986557
just way more content, in general
DS3 has a lot more polish and genuinely good design, but DS2 had just so much stuff packed into it that it's impossible to see everything even with 1000+ hours
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>>181986557
More content, less linear.
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>>181986557
Armor, infusions and stats. I wish they kept DaS2's ADP and Attunement system.
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>>181986342

Claymore has a better moveset, simple. Bastard Sword is essentially the broadsword to the Claymore's longsword/lks
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>>181986557

Better :
>actually different content on NG+
>less linear
>you could aim spells easier with binoculars
>left handed movesets
>ruined and non ruined versions of the same armor
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>>181986557
Less linearity, more weapon flexibility, more resource management, better covenants.
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Does enchanting a upgraded weapon in DS2 with an element/poison/bleed put it back to 0 ?
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reminder that if you started as warrior you're basically cucking yourself off defense and access to better weapons and weapon arts for >luck
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>>181987259
>started as cleric
i've got dmb on this character, fuck making another
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>>181986557
World design is much less linear and not as mind-numbing to clear on your nth playthrough.

More variety of viable builds
Rolls and are actually punishable
Estus is much less potent
And my favorite thing about DaS2, the Hornet Ring doesn't exist.
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>>181987160
It works exactly the same as infusions in DaS3, you just attach an element to it and the upgrade level stays the same.
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>>181986953
>ADP
>not a useless stat sink for something DS3 fixed
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>>181987487
>>181986557
Also, DaS2 has Straid and DaS3 does not.
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>>181987806
FEEBLE, CURSED ONE.
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>>181987675
Alright thank you
Any recommendations for a +10 Winged Spear ?
My other +10 Winged Spear is Lightning Enchanted , I power stance them
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>>181987806
Why does he yell at me even when I buy stuff from him
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>>181965295
>At what point in DS2 will a regular longsword outdamage the fire longsword?
For most enemies, not until the DLC.
>Also, are whips viable in PvE?
Yes.
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>>181988084
He's just worried you might not be able to handle the stuff he's got.
He's looking out for you, feeble cursed one.
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What the fuck is the point of the dragon tooth R2s?
Do they even have more range than the R1s? It doesn't look like it.
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>>181965295
DS2 even allows broken swords to be viable in PvE if you put mundane or poison on them ,its nuts
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>>181987806
REEEE DARK SORCERY FAGS GET OUT
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>>181987778
That's the point. Melee builds, particularly STR, are ridiculously efficient on levels compared to casters in 3.
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>>181969993
Depends on what you mean by "worse". What are your specific issues with the areas?

Also no, every boss is fucking easy save for maybe LGS with a good human summon.
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>>181989108
>disgusting cleric knight who has as many braincells as a fucking slug
Get out.
Only sorcerers are allowed in this part of town.
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anyone wanna do some TRC on PS4? SL87
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How is magic in DS3? Heard that it's not as good as previous installments
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Anybody want to do some pc sotfs co-op with a 4.7sm dex fag. Let me know where to put my sign if you do.
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>>181990531
Magic or any form of sorcerery is trash tier as it should be.
Based Miyazaki neutering wizards in the final installment
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>>181965295
>At what point in DS2 will a regular longsword outdamage the fire longsword?

The best damage type/infusion depends more on the enemy you're fighting than your own stats. Against any enemy with decent fire defense (anything standing in water or most bosses), or whenever you have access to both ring of blades and flynn's ring. Also as damage and defense numbers scale higher, they favor physical.

Short Answer:
>So take the physical component minus 120 times 5/6
>Take the element component times 0.7 to 0.3 depending on the circumstances.
>Compare

Long Answer:

Physical damage is always:
>AR - Enemy Defense * 5/6
>Enemy defense between 70 and 130 depending on how far into the game you are
>1 AR = 0.833 damage before multipliers

So take (physical AR - 100) *5/6 to figure out physical damage

Elemental defense is always
>AR * (1-[(0/1000)+.1)])
>Enemy defense ranges from 200 to 600. Standing in water or being rained on adds 300 fire, drops 300 lightning
>1 AR = 0.3 to 0.7 damage before multipliers

Also, only physical damage is affected by type weakness (strike/thrust/slash) so pure physical is generally better against enemies when you have a strike weapon.
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Am I the only one that wants to fuck a jailer?
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Boys I am playing Dark Souls 3. I haven't played since the 1st dlc. I beat that, and am now on the Ringed City. What is the best weapon? More specifically, is there a better greatsword, or non-ultra weapon that is stronger? I am okay with Halberds, is this Splitleaf thing any good?
I am kinda annoyed that my Lucatiel Greatsword isn't killing these things with sickles on the ground. They have like 1 hp at the end of 1 hit.
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Anybody have an extra pair of Caestus they don't need?
On PC.
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Like clockwork
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>>181967905
>>181967454
don't listen to this guy

You get 5 chunks, 15 twinkling, and two slabs from the crystal lizards in the dragon aerie for each ascetic if I remember correctly. It's a dedicated farming area for that reason.
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>>181967667
it's actually best to start on Pure black world tendency, farm all the souls and grasses you need, and then never go human again and just let killing the bosses increase your world tendency. Then, once the game is all beaten, step down one WT at a time by dying again. This is the only guaranteed way to get all the unique items, primeval demons and crystal lizards in a single playthrough.
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>>181974164
kill yourself useless faggot
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>>181991294
What SL are you doing this at? Mind posting your build. Bullying hosts in the snow sounds pretty fun.
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>>181991919
I suggest doing it with a warrior, I have a knight just because I fell in love with this invading method while playing it
Remember to invade to fuck with the host, not to win!
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>>181991132
bump
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>>181992272
Winning is the best way to make the host feel bad though.

The trick to invasions is not walking into situations where your disadvantages outnumber your advantages.
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>>181992367
Splitleaf is the go-to weapon for any scrub since it's fucking broken
Best UGS is Profaned Sword
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:3
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This place is really good
I actually ran throught the bridge while the host and his urine avatar were watching over it from the church, it's amazing with you can get away with the untrue dark ring
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>>181992524
>Not Astora Greatsword
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>when he thinks he is safe after crossing the bridge
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>>181987259

>picking anything but Deprived.
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god i wish i was a cewizard

i want to put the FrUGS L1, WKGS L2R1, L2R2, BKGA Warcry, and GGS L2R1 & L2R2 attacks on the Ultra Gutsword
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>>181969535
Probably dumb question but when you say crystal rapier do you mean the crystal sage rapier or the regular rapier with the crystal infusion?
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>>181968320
Prep:
>Make sure you get moundmakers before curse-rotteed greatwood
>Use undead hunter charms to get the symbol of avarice early
> buy the Untrue White Ring for shackle farming (helps to trick hosts by killing mobs)
>Beat crystal sage, but not abyss watchers (get the cyrstal sage rapier)
>get red eye orb
>Do NOT upgrade or level past 25+2

Ears, Shackles. and swordgrass:
>Reach SL25, go to farron swamp
>Way of the Blue
>30 ears + some shackles by killing watchdogs/mad phantoms. Between fights, kill ghrus.

Swordgrass: and shackles
>watchdogs of farron
>kill hosts and mad phantoms
>between invasions, farm ghrus

Tongues and Shackles,
>unequip covenant, invade with a red eye orb to get 30 tongues and some shackles

Shackles:
>Moundmakers, Invade with red eye orb to farm 30 shackles.

The reason why this order is efficient is because you can obtain shackles as any of the other covenants, but not vice-versa, and because swordgrass and ears require sitting around and waiting to be summoned, they should be done first since you can farm ghrus while waiting.

Only AFTER you have all of the aforementioned should you level up beyond SL25 and kill abyss watchers. You should get ~1 covenant item every 5 minutes or less, so expect 5-10 hours of gameplay doing pvp before you are finished. Still much faster than doing a NG+ run.

Sunlight Medals
>Advance in the game normally
>go to any area with embers on the warp screen, and put your sign down in front of that boss gate. Get 3 medals before you advance and kill the boss in your own game. Optionally, just stop progressing and farm all 30 at once.

Human dregs
>level to SL50 +5
>equip aldrich faithful, farm the deacons after pontiff while being summoned, kill hosts. Do not advance until you have 30 dregs.

Spear ornaments
>Level to SL100 +10
>Throw on spears of the church
>farm whatever items you're still missing while waiting to be summoned

Congrats, you have all covenant items as fast as possible to obtain.
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any fight clubs going on?
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>>181992524
splitleaf takes some skill to use properly though. The best scrub weapon is probably black knight sword, since perseverence R1 spam is the best strategy that doesn't require any thought to do. That or red hilted halberd, but most scrubs don't know/have it.
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Have you ever met a real girl player in the game?
Would you add them? I don't know im kinda shy.
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>>181993586
Literally the first rule as a host is not to cross bridges while invaded
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>>181994519
>perseverence R1 spam is the best strategy that doesn't require any thought to do
not really, ive seen scrubs use it at the wrong time tons of times, as well as people never even trying th WA when they have the sword.

I use it extensively and most fights where I fight somebody sing the same weapon doesn't even know how to use it.
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How is the level design in DaS3? Better than Bloodborne?
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What's the most casul thing you've ever done?
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>>181995036
>>181995234
>>181995268

Samefag trying way too hard. Is this what your weekend consists of?
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>people actually summon on their first playthrough
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Post webms of people doing stupid shit
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>>181995873
>people actually run all the way back to the last bonfire
>phone up a friend
>tell him to get on Dark Souls 3: The Fire Fades Edition
>put his summon sign down
>and summons him at the first sign of an invader
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>>181995268
sex with your mom
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>>181996123
>My world my rules
Invaders will never learn!
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chamaleon is suicide in this zone
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>>181995887
I swear I had some pvp saved where I destroyed parry spammers in the same way. Can't seem to find it though so here's some greed instead.
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>>181996660
I wish it wasn't but it is
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>>181996123
>Unzips Obscuring Ring
>Unzips Millwood Greatbow
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How good are bows or a bow-heavy build in 3?
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>>181997289
Chameleonfags are funny

>Run past, pretend you didn't see them
>Spin on a heel and hit them with a lloyds
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>>181998326
The only use for bows is cheesing PvE and unzipping obscuring ring in PvP if the host is being a shitter
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>>181998326
Bows are pretty shit in pvp with crossbows being infinitely better and limited in pve due to arrow limits.
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>>181998412
>>181998428
So I'd be better off just carrying an Arbalest for select moments?
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>>181998326
Good enough if you are gonna be a real piece of shit for a good while
Fun guaranteed
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>>181998516
Pretty much.
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>>181998627
I'd ask about the Avelyn, but considering it's all the way in the Archives, I won't
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>>181998615
>tfw you get a headshot on a rolling pisspants knight of want with the millwood
>does a twirl and falls as the explosion detonates
best feeling
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>>181998749
Avelyn is pretty good once you get it but Arbalest will definitely serve you up to that point. Avelyn is great for multiple hits or doing freeaim exploding bolt memes.
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>>181995887
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>invade a shitter as Aldrich Faithful
>he's a bumbling retard and doesn't heal

>few hours later go Dorkmooning
>summoned to the world of that exact fucking bumbling idiot
>run to the floating crystal in hopes the retard host doesn't die on me before I get there

>it was a mad spirit and he goes home without me getting an ear
GOD FUCK OFF YOU PURPLE FAGGOTS
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>>181998428
>>181998516
Crossbow is good for punishing sips and buffs mid-fight. Bow fills a completely different niche.
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Didn't expect the roles to be reversed this time.

Fucking Hosts are basically toddlers, he would've died if I didn't fire the bow in time.
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>>181999192
>Blues cucked +1

The count ever rises
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>>181994301
I banned all FCs
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>>181999687
I think more than anything I was trying to make a DaS Forest Hunter with the build, like the one who drops Pharis's Hat. I figured out the intended armor, but got completely stuck after that.
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>>182000286
dang you're good
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I know these threads are generally about PVP, but any tips for this cunt?

I can get to phase 3, then she fucks me up. She's relentless. No boss in the main game gave me this much trouble. I've tried getting good, but it's not working.

Any recommended weapon? I feel like my greatsword is too slow and I'm not good enough with timing to overcome that.
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>>182000503
Shit man you read my mind earlier this week, but you actually went through with it.

Use Pharris bow, but also keep a Millwood bow with you.
You'll love using that thing.
Pro-tip: you dont need FP to make the arrows explode so don't worry about lacking FP.
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>>182000507
lmao just don't get hit
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>>182000507
Friede is usually difficult for first timers but after learning her moveset you learn she is very easy to cheese.

In phase three what you should be looking out for is any opportunity to backstab or R1 spam her when she's not doing moves. After one of her longer combos or certain attacks like the jump into black serpent she does at the beginning of phase 3 you can backstab punish easily by rolling into her. I suggest staying back and observing her to determine which moves are safest to backstab, or just watch a DS3 all bosses speedrun and see which attacks they punish most. After each successful backstab you can always get a Charged R2 punish.

Your greatsword should be fine for Friede depending on which one it is, you should be using mostly 2HR1s to poise through some of her combos and stunlock her briefly though some of her attacks have hyperarmor, I forget which.
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>>182000507
If getting good isn't working, just summon like three dudes and gangbang her
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>>182000620
I haven't made it yet, it's still in the design phase. I just finished my pyro run and began my run to get all rings (which will be as fun as it sounds) using an Astora Knight RP, so it's a ways off before I actually do it. I still need to do a wayward drunk before I take the hunter, so I have time to make the actual build beyond base requirements for the bows and crossbows, as in the regular weapon.
I haven't gone this overboard with intended builds since my BB days.
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reeeee why don't sword spells have hyperarmour
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Sure is BORING around here.
Anybody at SL50 wanna finger up and help out some blues with ears?
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>>182001730
>Helping blues
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Whoever at From decided it would be a good idea to Spearchurch invade by placing your white sign should be executed.
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Is it impossible to get a second Millwood bow?
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>>182002065
It's a concept lifted from DeS, and it is a good one.
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>>182001730
I'd rather gank but I haven't played this game in a while and rather watch a movie.

Waiting around hiding for hours while blues get farmed by reds isn't interesting to me
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Bored out of my mind on my new character
SL50, can't enter irithyll or fight dancer but can go anywhere else
Pick me up please, I promise no funny business
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>>182002208
By placing a red sign sure but not a fucking white one.
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>>182002636
Nah, by placing a white sign too, especially since you are less likely to be fully decked out in Meta shit.
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what greatsword has the most thrust attacks?
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>>182002256
I mean, I can help with dancer but I'll probably die and that's no fun
Just nothing in irithyll or past dancer
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>>182002837
Claymore and Hollowslayer.
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Is there anything more infuriating and UNFUN than a fucking host who just runs away after his buttfucking buddy of a downscaled phantom dies?

God damn that wasn't even satisfying to finally kill, I can't believe people like this exist.
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>Consider making a mid level build to mess about in Post-Pontiffs
>Remember all the times people would camp the Water Reserve bonfire
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How long until From releases a Dark Souls trilogy?
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>>182003004
thx
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>>182003242
>kill 2 phantoms
>host runs away to summon
>kill phantom
>begin to chip away at host
>sits still for a second
>connection error returning to your world
hes next to the bonfire, what is he scared of? me no die xdd
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>>182003457
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>Oh hey this weapon has a really cool WA
>It's backstab bait
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>>182000507

For fuck's sake, I can't catch a break.

>Decide to give it another shot today
>Get her down to just a sliver of health while I have full health
>This is it! Just another hit or two, FINALLY
>Game fucking completely freezes and there's nothing I can do

Fuck this shit, it just doesn't want me to win.
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>>182004351
Save your estus for later
Phase 1 - Hit her relentlessly, stopping only to regain stamina
Phase 2 - Ignore her and kill big poppa pummel
Phase 3 - Study her for a little while, getting one or two hits in when comfortable, drinking estus without restraint
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>>182003383
Never, Dark Souls 2 isn't canon
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>Invade
>'Unable to summon phantom'
>Sprint to central irithyll bonfire
>Host is there
>Starts running away around the fountain
>Tries to summon another phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>Continues running
>Third time lucky
>UNABLE TO SUMMON PHANTOM
>Finally catch him and grind him into paste
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>>181959016
If Dark Souls 2 was a human, it would get the Death Sentence for being the most disgusting game ever made
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>>182004351
haha mad shitter
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>>182004351
Just summon Gael
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>>182003383
From won't.

Bandai probably will.

Sort of like how Konami is still releasing metal gear compilations after Kojima's studio left.
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>683,294 souls later
>only 19 concords
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Ayyoo I was wondering if anyone has bought this edition of ds3:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201979340256?_mwBanner=1

If so, is it region locked and does it have German available on it?
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>>182000507
just summon a couple dudes, this fight isnt worth the headache. if it wasnt for Bed of Chaos, this would be the worst fight in the entire series.

>>182002784
kill yourself stupid faggot
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>Invade world
>Host is in fallen knight armour
>Two white phantoms in fallen knight armour
>Sunbro in fallen knight armour
>All four immediately try to backstab gank me
>two phantoms die to one unlocked R1 combo because novig
>Host tries to trade with perseverence'd great mace until he dies

Amazing

Really, just incredible
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>>182005550
How would DS2 get the death sentence over any turnbased JRPG?
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>>182006882
If only Papa Miyazaki would let us share
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>>182007997
ITS BEEN HOURS

I HAVE 400 FUCKING TITANITE SHARDS
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>>182004351
be sure to stick her with a few throwing knives in phase one so you can see exactly where she is when she does the invisible leap bullshit
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>playing a faith character
>fighting ancient wyvern
>realize that my basic lightning spear does 1/20th of his health, and with just a few ashen estus I can kill him normally without doing the gimmick plunging attack

is he super weak to lightning?
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>>182008101
its actually faster to start a new character, get them to SL25, and farm ears from invading enemies in the swamp than it is to farm them with silver knights
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>>182008249
>Is the dragon descendent weak to lightning

gee anon i dunno
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>>182008385
And with how familiar you are with the place, Watchdog invasions will be easy as can be
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>>182007354
>>182005787
>>182004725
>>182006152
>>182008218

Beat it, only after it completely freezing on me twice and having to use task manager to close it. The 3rd phase just requires patience and waiting for an opening, then r1 spamming or trying to get in a backstab followed by a heavy attack, then getting the fuck out when she begins her flurry of bullshit.

This DLC was kind of lame imo, they want $15 for it separately and it's just a few hours of content at the most, and there isn't much to the area itself. The moving trees were cool though. But that wolf boss was a complete joke.

Now I'm moving onto The Ringed City, which apparently has the hardest bosses in the whole game? This should be fun...
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>>182008249
And by attempting this I have just realized

Ancient wyvern is a fucking AWFUL boss to fight normally. Even doing decent damage the camera and hitbox fuckery is the worst in the entire series.

I wonder if at one point he was supposed to be a normal boss but they added the plunging attack kill because they realized that the game couldn't really deal with the camera angles of trying to fight him even at projectile range
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>>182008784
>Locking on
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>>182008784
>>182008249
and now he's dead.

That was a lot less rewarding and way more disappointing than I thought it would be. He has no special moves or second phase or anything worth seeing by fighting him directly. Just lots of stomps that hit you even if you aren't anywhere near the hitbox, and lots of fire that doesn't hit you even if you're standing in the flames, and a lock-on and camera that make it impossible to hit his weak spot unless you are directly underneath him (which maybe have been intentional).

I bet you could beat him more in a satisfying way by using lighting arrows/greatarrows instead of lightning spears
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>>182009404
You can't hit him with a lightning spear unless you lock on and stand beneath him, since only his head and underbelly seem to take regular damage (the rest takes something like 20% damage or less). and the head doesn't allow lock on. You can't manually aim lightning spears. Kinda makes the whole battle boring since you can't aim and attack without being right up his butt and unable to see anything due to the camera.
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>Fighting 2v1
>Another red comes in
>Throws CBV at the host and hits me with it
>Gets killed immediately afterwards

Jesus christ
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>take a piss
>come back
>see "You died returning to your world"
i should really disable Darkmoon if im leaving for like 3 seconds
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who here /helping out newshitters with Ruin Sentinels/
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>lol lets turn on voice chat
>aldrich faithfulling
>brazilian ganksquad
>all laughing and shittalking, half of it static earrape
>their mics are peaking and my headphones are struggling with these frequencies
>HUEVOCE E TAO MAL HAHERUEWAHU when i finally die after 10 minutes
>rinse and repeat but chinese version ding dao long hai
why is voice chat a thing??
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How much leeway does a level 120 Pyromancer have to put points into Str and Dex for weapon requirements? Is 16 and 18 respectively too much? I kind of want to try a Chaos or Dark Corvian scythe, but I'm worried about what that would do to my HP and Stamina, and also a little bit worried that with 16 Str a similarly infused Claymore or Bastard Sword might make the Onyx Blade obsolete, and I'm enjoying the Onyx Blade too much for that.
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Bleed being completely fucking useless makes me sad
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>>182010808
tell that to my bleed infused rotten ghru dagger faggot
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>>182010539
Dark Souls 3 has voice chat?
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>>182011035
It only functions right at like below SL25
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>>182010764
You have some leeway with chain though reaching both 16 and 18 is a little much for 120. On my pyro I have him at 125 just to reach those STR/DEX levels but if you want to keep ATT to 18 or sacrifice some Endurance it's doable at 120.

Dark Claymore is very good but is outdamaged by a self-buffed Onyx Blade still and Onyx is longer anyway so it still has a great niche even then.
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>>182011064
Yeah, under summon sign visibility.
Its usually only Brazilians, Russians, or Chinese players with open mics, nobody else says a single thing.
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>>182010764
Dark Claymore does indeed make Onyx Blade obsolete.

120 pyro only wants 14/12
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does anyone want any help with any bosses? i should have everything aside from the ringed city done.
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>>182011064
So does Dark Souls 2
It's useless because anyone that plays any DS game has no functioning mic
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what do you guys do when you're waiting to invade/get invaded/get summoned?
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>>182011223
>>182010764
Onyx Blade has a lot more reach and lower stat requirements to 1H it, which you do if you want to use your pyro flame a lot. Since pyromancers need to invest in FTH, INT and ATT while also having adequate VIG/END, those extra stats go a long way.
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>Lure black knight all the way from the bridge to the twin ghru headraper room
>Host and two phantoms
>Two of them are distracted by the knight, the last tries to block two greathammer R2s and gets riposted into paste
>Black knight ally dies
>Kill phantom before it can estus
>Host visibly gives up and starts kiting me around a pillar until he dies
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>>182012565
masturbate
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Give me one (1) reason I should get back into this after completing the base game before any DLC's came out instead of starting a modded New Vegas run.
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>>182012565
scratch my vulva
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>>182011223
14/12 makes Demon Scar inaccessible, though.

>>182011175
I'm currently using Darkmoon Ring and 24 Attune at level 93, and I don't think I'm going to lower that. I'm still doing PvE, mostly just the DLCs, Twin Princes, and Soul, and I want a little more weapon variety than what I currently have access to. I suppose I can always try the higher Str and Dex investments going to 120 and decide from there if I want to respec or go up to 125.

The big thing is that I don't know if I have room for the Prisoner's Chain. I assume Great Swamp and Witch's rings are non-negotiable, and I'd rather not lose the attunement slots from Darkmoon. Is Sage's Ring not necessary for Pyros? I can definitely feel the difference between having it and not.
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>still no berserk soulslike by FSW

come ON
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>>182013092
What are you using Darkmoon for? There's only a few worthwhile pyromancies and you can switch between them easily with the 4 slots 24 gets you. Sage Ring is important enough especially if you want to use Black Flame that it's mandatory. The extra points Chains gets you will save your ass in making the build complete at 120 as without it you're gonna be far more starved for vigor and stamina. If you really want to keep Darkmoon Ring you can lose Great Swamp and you won't lose that much damage compared to Witch's Ring.
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I miss the tracking on the RKPGS
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>>182010120
It's the anti-everything from my experience, deleting Nashandra and her goons in 4-5 hits.
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>>182012565
practice ravioli steps
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>>182013426
ravioli ravioli
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>when you have a long ass invasion with a satisfactory end
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>>182013535
give me the backstaboli
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>>182013426
what's that?
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>>182013301
>What are you using Darkmoon for?
Vestiges, Black Serpent, Black Flame, Fire Surge, and one extra slot to fool around with. And also the FP. I spent some time invading Pontiff's at 70 the other day and had Bursting Fireball in that last slot; it wasn't particularly amazing but it was pretty cheap and has the exact same windup as Vestiges. There were also a few instances, particularly on that ladder down to the Archdeacon, where I thought Boulder Heave would have been useful as well.

I could drop my Attunement down to 18 but I felt starved for FP when using Vestiges or Chaos Fire Orb.
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>>182013805
Nah 24 is fine, all you need as a pyro really is Vestiges, Black Flame and Fire Surge, with Vestiges being the most easily expendable of those spells.
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>>182012565
shitpost on /dsg/ / watch videos / farm for items i need liKE THE FUCKING CONCORDS WITH A FUCKING %3 DROP RATE
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>>182013869
Black Serpent can set up a combo into Vestiges, and if they roll into me to avoid Serpent I can punish with Black Flame. Both of those setups were very effective when I was invading.

Though my Int and Faith were quite a bit below 40/40 at the time, so I suppose by the time I hit 120 I might have made up the damage I would lose from sacrificing the Great Swamp ring.
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>>182014327
At end game level ranges Serpent is far more unreliable since people know how to avoid it easily walking to the side Vestiges on it's own is far more useful as a general fast nuke punish and pressure tool. If you want it though do what works for you.
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>>181963227
ZA WARUDO
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>>181963227
>pontiffs face when
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>>182014435
Yeah, like I said earlier I'll sacrifice a few more levels into Str and Dex, and see how my HP and Endurance feel at 120.
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>that guy who thinks you're cheating because you're cosplaying
what a retard
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Too much fried shitter and sauteed bluefag

I couldn't eat another bite
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>>182015846
>cosplay crestfallen warrior
>still called a hackerman
I don't get it
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>>182016041
*braps on your plate*
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All they need to do is make Darkmoons get summoned during Aldrich Invasions.
There, covenant fixed with an added pvp experience for post pontiff
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>Blue falls down the hole into the lava while fleeing for his life

Made me giggle
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>>182016327
No, they need to bring back the Sin system. Blues get called to the aid of Hosts, Darkmoons use Blue Eye Orb to invade people who have sinned and Aldrich Faithfuls.
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>>182016327
that or make white sign summons have a blue tint with any blue covenant equipped
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>>182016469
How can they hunt down sinners without Gwyndolin or Velka? Darkmoons are gimped for lore reasons.
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>>>/vg/llsifg
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>>182016713
oh no...
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>>182016673
Then they should have made it a fucking sidequest, not just cloned the way of blue covenant.
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The pvp of this game is making me more angry than the pve
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>2 phantoms and I doing TRC with dried finger
>swamp area, just before ornstein
>two invaders show up
>unzipsgank.zip
>the invaders split up, one runs and hides behind ornstein
>fucking phantom actually chases him
>madman aggros ornstein
>reds just keep throwing vestiges at us and trying to fish for backstabs
>we're getting fucked
>idea.jpg
>pull ornsteins aggro, lure him far back away from the fight and just keep his attention so the duos can duel
>teamwork.png
>phantoms suddenly notice im gone and have a panic attack because im not within arms reach
>they run to me
>and bring the reds with them
>proceed to get blacked by the pc and npc trio because we got stuffed in a corner
>mfw the phantoms logic
>mfw got pointed down
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>>182017239
All this pisspant knight of co-op is breeding some really awful players, while the reds just get better from crushing them

So rarely do I actually see a phantom who knows how to play.
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>>182017492
Yeah. The worst part is when you summon because you just want to streamroll through and get on with it, and it ends up taking even longer because of the phantoms shit logic
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Did Gwyn actually do anything wrong? From what we've seen so far the abyss, age of dark, deep, whatever seems like a horrible place
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if I summon an SL120 phantom and let me kill them, will i get alot of souls
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>>182018208
The abyss is to dark what chaos is to fire

Self destructive and horrible for everyone involved
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>>182018282
If you want a lot of souls just get someone to dupe Large Soul of a Champion for you.
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>>182018282
No, that's not a good way to farm souls unless you have a level 802 buddy

Drakeblood dudes are faster
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>summon someone using fallen knight, dark sword and grass crest shield
its just a joke right? how many times am i gonna see this epic setup
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>>182014896
KONO POWA
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>>182018490
I like the look and moveset of the dark sword but I can never use it because of the shitters it's associated with
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i feel bad for some of the pisspants knights
theyre not aware of the stigma that set gets, and sometimes i just can't bring myself to kill them
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>the way soul of cinder looks up one last time and slumps down in defeat
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>>182018490
>He uses the grass crest shield to block
>Gets guardbroken instantly and riposted into the shadow realm

>He swings
>He hits! Twice!
>Shame about the additional four R1s that were dumped into empty space
>Oh look he got comboed into the shadow realm before he could recover

>Oh no he got hit
>Rollcaught
>Immediately tries to roll again
>Rollcaught again
>Does it a third time and dies

I swear it's like a badly programmed AI. None of these are real players, they're just NPCs dressed up to look like it. I swear to god this behaviour shouldn't be so common among humans.
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>the best fashion always has the worst defense

>spend ages perfecting your fashion, it looks gorgeous
>get the absolute bag beaten out of you
>go back to the loadout that is uglier but has better stats
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>>182019175
I dumpster them on sight

Don't feel bad for shitters. Unless you teach them how bad they are they'll never be anything more than R1 spamming, backstab fishing, ganksquad summoning shitters.
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>>182019208
>when Sir Alonne commits seppuku
>when Sif recognizes you
>when you have to fuckin kill Artorias
>when you realize Gwyn is weak to fire because even he, god of sunlight, went hollow
>when you realize that the towering bed of chaos is controlled by a weak, small, defenseless, ugly bug that is just someone that wanted to fuggin help
>when miyazaki hits you with that nerf
>when you have to PAY EXTRA MONEY to get good slutwear
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>>182019175
>>182018490
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>>182018490
w-what's wrong with fallen knight armor
>>
>>182019593
its associated with walking talking summoning garbage
>>
>>182019593
oh boy you're in for arude awakening
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>>182019482
Unlike most people I actually liked the fight and the the concept that this huge corrupted monstrosity was nothing but weak frail insect.
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>>182019593
It's the sign of the Pisspant Knight of Want
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>>182019482

>when you have to kill Nito who was just sleeping peacefully in his crib
>when you have to kill Lothric even though you would rather join him for apocalypse and chill
>when you realise Sully did nothing wrong
>>
>>182019706
>>182019850
>>182019970
man I just like that cloak is all
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>>182019593
Read the description of the fallen knight trousers

The fallen knight set is literally pisspant knight cosplay
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>>182019175
I-is it okay to just wear the h-helmet?
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damn Karla...
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>>182020134
No, the helmet is arguably the worst part.
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>>182020271
What? Helmet is the only redeeming part of the set.
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>>182019482
>when you go through new londo and see how everything is either dead, undead, or ohgodwhydidtheymelttogetherlikethat
>when you realize oscar got pancaked by the asylum demon and got shoved into that cell and then abandoned and died alone
>when you find the crestfallen warrior down in new londo, hollowed
>when you find solaire, the one nigga that could, insane and/or hollow
>when you wear witch's ring and talk to quelaag's sister
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>>182019208
>tfw you try your hardest but fail
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if you make a game where the easiest way to win is to just run past everything to the next bonfire and never attempt to actually play the game

then you made a bad game
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>>182020145
Karla caca
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>>182020574
>if you play the game and not play the game the game is at fault
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>>182020376
>when you take the path through darkroot and backway of Blighttown first and Firelink is almost always empty save for one or two people at a time
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>>182020145
All of her gear says that, so it isn't piss or shit.
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>>182020574
Which enemy did you die to new friend?
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>>182020659
W I T C H
M U S K

Zullie what does witch pussy smell like.
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>>182020625
>create a game with lots of creative effort into the combat, enemies, and level design
>forget to create a game where any of those things actually matter or reward you for engaging, because ignoring everything and just rushing to the bonfire/boss is by far easier than actually trying to play the levels
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>>182020738

Delicious
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Okay, so when will NPCs hurt invaders? So far I've been killed by the Undead Settlement giant and giants in Anor Londo. Any other things to watch out for?
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>>182021025
giant crabs
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>>182021025
Irithyll is not Anor Londo.

Also all NPC invaders attack normal invaders too.
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i have ignore statuses and ignore 1 hit deaths enabled in ce but still get cursed and die
how do i not get cursed
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>>182021307
don't play the game
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>>182021434
already uninstalled, dont worry
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>>182021468
there ya go
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>>182013805

>And also the FP

The slot rings give extra FP now?
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>doing darkmoon/blue sentinel cause bored
>get summoned
>guy hits me once and i instantly die
heh... another bluefag down my rebbit Gods
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1-3 DaS
4-6 DaS2
7-9 DaS3
0 go masturbate
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>>182021767
I just had a blue spawn into an invasion with some Yakety Sax host. The fucker was Greatswording and FATROLLING. It was awful.
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>>182015846
How exactly?
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>>182021983
roll
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>>182016469
What about both? Darkmoons now invade sinners with the reo or some beo but can also be summoned against Aldrich faithfuls. They are making sure Aldrich is undisturbed while voring the trap, that's collaboration to direct trespass of the highest order against the gods
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What sword can I use in place of the firelink sword for a cinder cospvp?
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>>182022295
That is literally what my post said friendo
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>>182022295
>>182016469
One covenant for invading (Darkwraith)
One covenant for invading invaders (Darkmoon)
One covenant for protecting invaders (Anti-Ganksquad)

One covenant for co-op (Sunbro)
One covenant for invading /mimic co-op (Moundmakers)
One covenant for protecting co-op (Way of the Blue)

One covenant for area offense (Farron Watchdogs)
One covenant for area defense (Gravelords/Spear of the Church)

Darkwraiths invade normally
Darkmoons invade darkwraith's normal game based on their covenant rank
Anti-way of the blue auto-invades whenever an invader is outnumbered

Sunbros are summoned by hosts
Moundmakers are mimic summon signs, show up as white but are summoned as purple phantoms
Way of the Blue automatically summons to protect hosts that are being invaded (as long as the host is either sunbro, or no covenant equipped).

Farron Watchdogs are auto-summoned to protect a certain area
Gravelords use items that make the host's pve harder until they find the gravestone or die
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What UGS should I use for a super original Guts build
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>>182022889
greatsword
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>>182022919
thanks
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>>182020738
Witch pussy smells like an old book, vanilla, and magic dust.
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>>182020738
like a nursing home
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>>182022865
I think there's room for multiple area defense and offense covenants, but yeah, that more or less sums up the perfected Covenant system.
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>>182022481
Ringed Knight Sword, Ringed Knight Spear, Lorian's Greatsword, Gargoyle Flame Spear, uh, Profaned Greatsword, Demon's Greataxe, really any weapon which sets itself on fire works
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>spear of the church
>guy is using dark sword and greatshield
>runs around for 5 minutes in a panic
>has no idea what to do other then turtle and r1
>gets killed atfter like 9 chugs
he didn't know it was a player boss, huh.
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>>182023210
You'd have to also make the level ranges match the player ranges so that as you progress through the game, the multiple invasion / protection covenants don't overlap.

Early game:
>Darkwraith (high range upward)
>Sunbro (high range downward)

Mid-game
>Watchdogs
>Moundmakers
>Way of the Blue (protecting sunbros and hosts from early game darkwraiths and mid-game moundmakers/watchdogs)

Late game
>Anti-gank squad (high range downward, protecting early game darkwraiths from mid-game way of the blues)
>Darkmoon (invading people who previously used darkwraiths a lot)
>Gravelords/Spear of the church (high range downward)
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>>182021983
But I already masturbated.
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>>182021983
r r r oll
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Was thinking of doing another Caestus run.
Should I do refined 40/40 or go for mixed damage with Str/Int?
DS3 has the smoothest caestus combos, but DS2 has the Vanquisher's Seal.
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>>182023572
I love dark sword/greatshield turtles

They legitimately don't know what to do when you keep swinging and break their guard. Riposte, 70% healthbar eaten, back off, chug like a motherfucker, and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING AGAIN
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Odd question, but does the Pus of Man's shriek fall under "sound effects" or "voice" in sound settings on PC?
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>>182023665
I don't follow.

All the covenants except the area covenants should be viable at all stages of the game. Matchmaking should be lenient towards the host in terms of SL, but it should also penalise for phantoms
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>>182023572
>>182023782
>tfw I beat Champ, Homoprinces and SoC with a Dark Sword + greatshield turtle on my first character with 25 Vigor, 25 Endurance and like 30 Faith
I mean, I feel like I've gotten better since then, but I still can't beat Friede without Gael's help.

>>182023901
"Voice" defines NPC speech that also gets subtitles. Which Pus of Man is not.
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>>182023958
>All the covenants except the area covenants should be viable at all stages of the game

Nah, that doesn't give you incentive to change covenants mid-game and it means that some of the covenants just will never be used because they're inconvenient. That's how you end up with people being forced to farm for covenant items, because there are gaps in the progression where players have clustered around a 2/3 covenants and stopped using the others.

Darkwraiths, sunbros, and watchdogs can invade anyone circumstantially, so the other covenants just match up with those and provide different activity. Darkmoons are late game darkwraiths fueled by the amount of early game darkwraiths.

Moundmakers (which, I should add, should be allowed to fight bosses and get shackles if they kill a boss) are mid-game sunbros fueled by the amount of players looking for early game sunbros to summon.

etc.

Ideal covenants should mean that through a normal gameplay you should be able to easily max out 2-3 covenants without having to stop progressing, based on what kind of character you are playing.
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>>182022889
>>182022919
>>182022993

>tfw this moveset will NEVER EVER be in the game for the Greatsword(UGS)
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>>182024284
>>182023958
better way to say what I mean:

You shouldn't make all covenants available at all points in the game, or people will always pick one.

You should make 2-3 covenants available at a time, where they depend on each other for activity so that players will naturally gravitate toward picking "teams". Then just as a normal playthrough would make out those covenants, you make the next 2-3 available.
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>>182024376
gael's
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>>182024376
>it's literally just a spastic version of the artorias flip and double spin, but sped up until the animations look stupid

And thank god for that. That looks fucking awful.
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>>182024507
>wolf stance is an overhead smash, using the weapon as a pole-vault, using downwards momentum upon landing to perform a horizontal 360° low-slash, into a triple front-flip into overhead smash, into a full body lunge, into a multi-directional 720° slash, to a left, then right horizontal slash, followed by throwing your 250 kg sword, then making two extremely quick hops before catching your sword, following it all up with a horizontal slash

i bet you point down everytime you kill someone using any of the anime weapons, huh?
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>>182024376
That is pretty silly for a greatsword. I want a greatsword moveset with sturdy and elegant movements. I want a greatsword moveset to look like a three person dance between the swordsman, sword, and opponent played in a Largo or Grave tempo.
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there's two phantoms, one is spamming black serpent, the other is spamming running r1 katana

wat do?
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>>182025586
parry katana spam
ded
roll serpents
ded
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>>181973567
>45 vig
nigger what??
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>>182025636
>finally get a window to parry
>get hit by black serpent
good job
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How to make necromancer?
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>>182025639
I was originally planning on going to 125.
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>>182025689
roll serpent
ignore serpent spammer
parry r1 katana
ded
roll serpent
ded
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>>182025586
Uninstall Gank Shit 3
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Most useless spell in the game?

Seriously, has anyone EVER used this? Apart from testing it to see how useless it is?
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>>182024976
>using downwards momentum upon landing to perform a horizontal 360° low-slash
>momentum
>video game

did you even watch the webm? It's just going from one jerky animation to another, there's no weight or momentum to it whatsoever.

Faster moves with more hits are not better, and the overhead vault is EXACTLY what the artorias GS does.

If you like anime flips and shit, go play another series.
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>>182025974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyL0cVb36Xc&ab_channel=DamnNoHtml
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>>182026059

in that webm, the player is currently in frenzy mode on an extremely high level character; the animations are not at their normal speed.

Couldn't you just slow them down?
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>>182025586
parry the running katana, shit is so easy
the second he brings the katana to his left side parry and its pretty much a guaranteed parry
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>>182026279
>Couldn't you just slow them down?

congrats you just created an artorias GS with one or two extra moves at the end of its combo, which no one will ever have the stamina to use.

There's a reason why weapons don't have 4 move chain combos. Gael's GS or the curved wolf GS is probably the most extreme example in the franchise and even that maxes out at 3.
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>>182023768
2 has bone fists anon
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>>182025716

First, let's take a look at the classic necromancer. Robes, a small army behind him, and most of what he does himself has to do with poison, pestillence and the abuse of souls

Now, I like the crucifix, but not only does the item description not suit the selfish nature of a necromancer but the builds required to make use of it don't allow you to use a whole lot of the "necromancer-esque" spells

Personally, I'd use a dagger if I was making a necromancer build. Nice, light, and fits the aesthetic of someone who really doesn't like being in melee, which suits a necromancer down to the ground. Failing that, a Corvian Great Scythe has a good look to it, works well with either Chaos or Dark infusion, has inherent bleed and isn't fought often enough for the majority of people to be comfortable with it. Hell, wield both, since you should be wearing mostly robes and maybe some decrepit armour, stolen from the dead you've desecrated in the name of "progress"

Next, spells. Now, come on, if you were thinking a Death Knight style necromancer then i could uncerstand you not having much in the way of spells, but a full blown necromancer, you should be revelling in putting enemies between you and your foes and blasting them with dark, soul powered spells from afar

Want more enemies on your side? Rapport, great pyromancy spell, works on damn near anything
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Hey guys I'm currently playing DaS 2 for the first time and just found Vendrick and I noticed one thing, my character is female now. I'm not sure when excactly his gender changed but is there a reason why it changed and is there a way to turn it back?
I found it out after wearing that one ring that makes you look human again and my character suddently looked like a female with downsyndrom.
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>>182026883
Did you get into the coffin at Things Betwixt?
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>>182026883
Coffin in the tutorial area changes gender, hop back in to change back.
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>>182026726
>using Bone Fists over Caestus
>At 40 40 it has 14+189(203) without enchantment and 20+203(223) for Bone Fist+5 , so the enchantment is pointless. For comparison Caestus +10 has 90+182(272) damage.

apart from the hadouken it's inferior. Think i'll just go for the DS2 Fisting run. Should i grind out the awestones for the ring or just go full boxing?
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>>182026937
>>182026939
Oh, so that was meant by "the nature of your existence" (I'm playing in german so this might not be the excact translation).
Thank you guys, I didn't notice it changing my gender.
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>>182026993
Mundane bone fists are stronger than caestus, and the kick is one of the strongest moves in the game.
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>>182027076
>Mundane
isn't mundane nerfed to shit and then again?
it also makes you very strangely balanced
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>>182027052
filthy bratwursts infecting my souls thread

get out
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>>182027052
guten morgen ^^
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>>182027130
I'll go, dince I don't want to get spoilered or anything
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>>182026993
Bone fist has slightly better scaling, aoe attacks, better running/backstep attacks and is just more fun to use. Nothing beats slapping shit around with shockwaves all over the place
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>>181959342
>Imgur
>>
>Start PvP'ing
>Suddently every weapon in the world is better than my weapon
Recommend me some fun strength weapons. I'm getting fed up.
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>>182027347
Smelter Hammer
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>>182027347
greatsword
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>>182027347
Powerstanced smelter hammers, don't worry you only need 99 STR to use them.
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>>182027126
Mundane is the opposite of raw.

It halves the base damage and a slight reduction in scaling, then adds 140-170 damage depending on your minimum stat. It's great for weapons with low base damage but high scaling. Because of this, it's actually better than almost any infusions once you hit ridiculously high (SL300+) SLs since you can softcap everything.

So normal bone fists are better at a low SL, but once you can get everything to 20 or 25 or so, mundane is absolutely better no matter what.

25/25 Mundane Bone fist:
>10+40+185 = 235

40/40 normal bone fist:
>20+210 = 230

Plus mundane gives you full access to utility spells like Sacred Oath for even more damage.
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>>181962802
>>181963227
How was this achieved?
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>>182027504
Collectors Editon
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>>182027468
Last time i did a mundane run was a year ago with twinblades and it was meh. Will try it out since why not.
The bone fists require 15/30 though so getting a decent mundane will be hard AF.

Now I wonder if I should farm awestones for the ring to go Fist/BF or just go Caestus/BF
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>>182027660
For twinblades you minimum stat should be something like 30 or 40 before it's better than normal

don't think of mundane as a "run", it's an infusion you use to optimize damage when you're at a very high SL.

If you're doing a "keep all stats the same" playthrough, then Dark is better than mundane until you softcap dark around 27 or 30.
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>>182027452
np pham
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>>181965208
>>181966613
>>181971309
Would come inside both of them the way i use obfuscation ring to hide in rafters and 1shot any cunt that comes under me desu
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>>182027452
>>182027407
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dark Souls 2
Give me recommendations for the real dark souls game, not 1 or 2.
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>>182028069
>DS1 pvp
>DS3 pvpppppp
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>>182021025
Watch out for Mad Phantom Hodrick,the Lothric Castle Dragons and Yellowfinger Heysel.

Also the Crabs.
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Can you powerstance weapons in DaS3? It seems fun even though it also seems completely stupid.
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>>182028069
You can block the lava damage at Tsorigs spawn with a shield if the camera is facing towards the stairs.
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>>182028127
>DS2 PvP
>Demon's Souls PvP
>King's Field PvP
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>>182028260
Cool but what does that mean?
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>>182028265
What's wrong with DS2 pvp?
I can't fucking wait to read what you have to say.
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>>182028257
Nah, some weapons are just "paired" weapons that you can wield in 2 hands to get new movesets.
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>>182028460
Sweet dude, what weapons are those?
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>>182028480
twinblades
twinspears
twin hammers
twin ugs
caestus
claws
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>>182028480
http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Paired_Weapons
Not nearly as much variety as 2's powerstancing but better than 1 and BB
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>>182028417
You have to go through the goddamn awful garbage PvE portion of the game to PvP.

Meme stats like adaptability.

No functional arena
>>
Was this rude of me? I only realized in post that he was going for an additional emote...
http://plays.tv/video/5960a1a60f279d4dbd/how-long-should-give-them-get-ready-d-1v1-aldrichfaithful
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>>182028646
>have to go through goddamn boring garbage PvE portion of the game to get to the goddamn awful garbage PvP

>longsword spam
>roll spam

>muh 5 phantoms

>No functional arena
>>
>>182028678 am i hearing a mechanical keyboard and mouse
>>
>>182028646
>>182028802
Oh yeah not to mention unpunishable estus
>>
>just started properly doing DS3 pvp last night
>got a couple of successful Watchdoggo invasions off as well
>drove a host into a corner and chip damaged him through all of his flasks and murdered him
>had jolly co-op from a red invader

I can see why people like the pvp aspect in this game as well.
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>>182028678
C L I C C

O N

G E S T U R E

fuuuuuuuuck youuuuu
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>>182028802
Looks like someone needs to git gud.
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>>182028646
>no functional arena
Full retard.
Brotherhood of Blood arena is solid.
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>>182028963
GOTTEM.
Thanks for giving up so easily.
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>>182028802
>floaty ass combat
>horrible turning
>rob flynn
>le one shot hexes
>nonpunishable roll punches
>SM
>havel monsters
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>>182028864
>>182028930
Stop bully i smashed my 360 controller while finishing DaS2, also i can more easily tab out to shitpost on /tg/ while finding a new Joe "DMT for those who cannot see" Rogan podcast.
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>>182029014
Sorry for laying down the truth bruh.

>dying to longsword spam in 2017
>crying about phantoms like a little bitch
>undead match is not functional arena and somehow oolacile and bridge """""""honor"""""" duels are better
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>>182029168
Not him but you need to see that DaS2 was quite awful mechanically, despite how much you might be able to spank it to Vendrick's soulful soliluquy.
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>>182029062
>clunky ass combat
>horrible backstabbing
>flip ring
>le one shot hexes
>twinking
>havel monsters

btw roll punches were patched thnx
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>>182029232
Roll punches are still in the game, what are you talking about? They were only patches on vanq seal.
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Ignorant slaves
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>>182028646
>Meme stats like adaptability.

what's wrong with ADP? All it does is give you more options, it doesn't restrict the player at all and lets you min max even more.
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>>182029232
>horrible backstabbing
l2 bs escape : )
>>flip ring
Balanced due to only two ring slots, and having to give up fap or wolf/havel for it. So you can't poise stab
>>le one shot hexes
Got me there
>>twinking
darkwraithlaughing.jpg
>>havel monsters
You have to sacrifice damage stats by pumping end if you want to use havels and fast roll, other wise you're bs bait.
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>>182029378
He's just mad because he has to relearn when to roll instead of just mashing B/O a million times.
>>
Shields are for pussies
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>>182029378
>All it does is give you more options
In the same way Health and Stamina stats do.
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>>182029440
>re-relearning to roll
>aka leveling up up your adap to 20

very skillful
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>>182029359
Nice bossfight dude, literarily forgot you existed until i realized i needed that one gay ring
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>>182029430
it's impossible to get backstabbed with full havels and a curved sword, you don't even need to roll, just mash r1
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>>182029560
except the game also gives you 40 more levels to compensate for adding the stat, and leveling ADP is not optimal or necessary for the first few parts of the game anyway.

Compare that with 27 vigor in DS3, which gives you fewer levels to play with and is more mandatory than 20 ADP..
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>>182029610
You're not learning if you're leveling up your crutch stat.
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>>182028678
Only people worse than those who do not gesture, are people who bait others to gesture then attack.
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>>182029541

instant iframe buttons are for pussies
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>>182029705
>Compare that with 27 vigor in DS3
Every fucking Souls game has a health stat that you're fucked if you don't invest substantially.

Also DS2 starts you with the lowest numerical stats in the series.
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>>182029840
>Also DS2 starts you with the lowest numerical stats in the series.
Then level up? Souls games aren't exactly all that difficult, anon.
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If i die while invading, how many souls will my killer get? 50%? Because i kinda feel like grinding up a huge soul pool just so i can surprise some poor cuck that might need it.
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>>182029950
It's based on the cost for leveling yourself up, not on how many souls you have. As an invader you have no way to influence that because the downsearch range is so low.
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>>182029616

MLGS, nigger.

He should be harder, though. He's far too easy.
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>>182030335
MLGS? Also i'm actually white
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>>182030426
>Also i'm actually white
DOUBLE NIGGER
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>>182029840
>>182029935
>>182029705
>>182029707
>>182029610
>>182029560
>>182029378
>>182028646

Stats to reach:
>50% of 40 vig health
>110 stamina
>92 agility
>58 equip load
>enough str and dex to equip claymore
>enough int for sorceror's staff
>enough fth for talisman/cleric's chime

DS2: SL55
>7 vig
>15 end
>13 vit
>15 adp
>20 str
>13 dex
>10 int
>10 fth
Total Cost of Souls: 110915
>Number of bosses you have to beat (assuming you fight the lowest soul reward/easiest bosses, no skipping): ~7
>Last giant, Dragonrider, Flexile, Skeleton Lords, Covetous, Pursuer, Chariot
>Total no. of mandatory bosses: 22
>mandatory bosses you need to clear to reach the level: 5
TOTAL PROGRESS THROUGH THE GAME TO REACH MINIMUM STATS: 22%


DS3: SL31
>17 vig
>19 end
>18 vit
>16 str
>13 dex
>10 int
>10 fth
Total cost of souls: 64306
>Number of bosses you have to beat: ~6
>Iudex, Vordt, Greatwood, Sage, Deacons, Abyss watchers
>total no. of mandatory bosses: 13
>Mandatory bosses you need to clear to reach the level: 5
TOTAL PROGRESS THROUGH THE GAME TO REACH MINIMUM STATS: 38%

And this even favors DS2 more if you go pure physical, since you save only 2 levels in DS3 but you save 10 in DS2. DS2's ADP requirement isn't NEARLY as harsh as DS3's vit/vig requirement, even though DS2 uses more levels, because the soul rewards are so much higher in DS2 and the levels cost so much less.
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>>182031065
also, tl;dr:

Both games take about the same amount of time to build up a minimum set of stats for a character to play comfortably, but DS2 does it with more min maxing and a longer overall game, whereas DS3 has you still working on your minimums a third of the way into the game.
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>>182030571
;-; no bully

also anyone around LEVEL 96 come and get some at Pointiff Sulayvayhna bonfire pvp area
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>>182031065
Let us not forget that Attunement gives Agility as well, while not significant early it means anyone with 6+ attunement slots already hit a 92 agility, even less if you say take enough attunement for 4 slots, then as little as 5 ADP will bring you to 92 agility
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>>182028678
hey, I play on keyboard and mouse too
I am not alone!
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Does anyone have webm's of that onion-headed faith anon?
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Spears of the Church is such a shit covenant. Pretty much every time I get pulled in there I'm going 3v1 with no estus and you know the little yellow soulmasses that are supposedly "helping" you out? They fucking break people out of stuns SO OFTEN that I miss half my ripostes. Same goes for combos. Think you're about to get a sweet 800dmg battle art off? No, fuck you, yellow sparkles dealing 30dmg means they can roll away and heal for the 11th fucking time. Oh and I have to itemslot this deadweight item that people hardly ever get baited into, and the only reward for winning is a better version of that same piece of shit item. I honestly wish I could just invade SoC as a fucking red with no bells and whistles and half estus so I could gankspank the way I do in invasions.
Yes I fucking mad. What a turd of a covenant.
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>>182031298
What platform?
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Well I'm level 26, +2 weapons, and still I can't get summoned as a blue
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SL should be the only thing that matters for multiplayer.
Soul memory fucking sucks. Weapon level fucking sucks.
Fuck you From
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>>182031517
Centre platform, in front of the bonfire you silly
PC xd
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>>182031626
SL only is stupid in a game where a character with minimum stats to wield a +10 weapon will outdamage a character with stats capped with a +0 weapon.
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>>182031626
That's how it worked in DS1 and it resulted in some pretty fucking broken twinking. Even a really good PvPer going through the game normally would probably get fucked by an average twinker with fully upgraded endgame shit.
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>>182031540
Time of day matters, friend.
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>>182031626
you clearly haven't played enough DS1 pvp to realize what that is such a bad idea

Soul memory makes sense but shouldn't have counted souls lost or held onto, only souls spent. Counting souls obtained made it too easy for hackers or twinks to drop tons of souls on death and ruin a save's matchmaking, and heavily punished people who died a lot in pve with unwinnable invasions.

Weapon memory is basically that, since they removed everything worthwhile spending souls on that would affect your character's overall strength except for titanite. It's a half-assed version of soul memory by devs too scared to make a better system, but at least it's balanced better than SM was.

SL-only is the worst of all of them.
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need help for the skeleton lords in DS2 on PC im 700k soul memory and used a bonfire ascetic if that matters
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>1v1 a girl called "Anri of Astora"
>Beat her and do Collapse
>Suddently a white outline of someone wearing Horace's gear appears and dissapears
P-pepe?
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>>182031860
Just summon Creighton and equip a bunch of Alluring Skulls, Skeleton Lords isn't really a boss at all.
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>>182031860
enemies standing in water are weak to lightning
all skeletons are weak to strike
they share a health pool, so if you hit 2, you do twice the damage.

All of this should point you toward a lightning infused mace, which you definitely have available to you right now, or the AoE lightning attacks like heavenly thunder, which you also have available. Both are unlocked at Heide's tower, which is why you have to beat heide's tower to fight skeleton lords.
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>>182031959
>>182031956

im a wizard with low str and vig and creightons sucks, I guess Il try the skulls
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>>182031657
If you run into a caestus cleric that's me
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>>182032043
If you run into someone called "Ez2WreckU B-)" then you'll know ;) I just love men's cocks
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>hitting king of the storm with two 60 faith perfect lightning stakes in a row, causing him to instantly stagger and be riposted for a single-combo kill

oh god this feels so good I love faith

now if only I had a damage option against nameless king other than a blessed longsword
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>>182032019
>>182031956
ayo nigga still need help? I MIGHT be in your range
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>>182032019
You should have 2 copies of soul spear already, (you get one for every bonfire ascetic burned in huntsman's copse, including NG) and that just SHREDS groups of enemies.

Otherwise, you can just run away and spam soul arrows, none of the skeletons except for the lords have projectiles, and they all move slowly. If you kill the lords and bonewheels, the rest will just slowly try to catch you.
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>>182032092
Protip: as a relic of the Age of Gods, he's weak to what the "gods" feared the most.

Also, Dorhys' Gnawing makes him a joke.
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>>182032084
>I just love men's cocks
same
who else /faggot/ here?
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>>182032190
Is that why you chose cleric, so you can be the big warriors bitchboy? also what's your character's name so i can look for you
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>>182032274
I'm not that same anon, anon. I'm just a fag.
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>>182032043
Are you me?
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>>182032454
>>182032454
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>>182032318
Alright. In my experience, people like you usually spam soothing sunlight and rollspam like sanic the horgehorg.
post boypucci? :3
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>>182032116
Already done, just respect and took a lightning dragon tooth into the fight, so much easier
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>>182032184
I'm not too worried. It's only my second playthrough but I beat him pretty easily at SL120 using a +10 longsword and this time I'm SL100 with a +10 blessed lothric knight sword.

I'm doing a regenerator lloyd's ring build though so I only have 20 vigor. and 47 absorption on 16 vit
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>>182032480
Well, I'm nothing like that. I'm a good girl summon
Also buy me dinner first.
>>182032535
T-Thanks. Not like I wanted a sunlight medal or something.
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>>182025974
amazing for the skeleton lords fight no other uses
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>>182031860
Snipe the Wheelies first. Suddenly it's impossible to get hit by anything. Just circlestrafe until the enemies are in harmless clump that you're spamming spells into.
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