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= NEWS =
>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>Latest PC patch notes (June 21st)
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements/detail/134924063582

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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Don't forget to filter tripcode user Lucifer !!ss9GITmavRN
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Excuse me but I make the OP!
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What's the cheapest shitbox I can build to play this on?
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how do i do this combo
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>tfw no matter what I try with customization I always go back to default or recolor the default

Some of the back items are cool though, I love the giant brush
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>>181768773
A KEYBOARD
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Reminder to dodge King players
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>>181768662
>Ducking the rest of the post

LMAO.

THIS NIGGA ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>181768806
>Landing 5 EWGF's in a row
wtf nerf Kazuya now
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>>181768773
>building cheap pieces of shit, for any reason

Either build a gaming PC, or don't build a gaming PC. If you just want a cheap box that plays games at subpar settings, get a console.
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>>181768806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyD1jlq7aBA
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>>181769007
Jesus, and my previous comment was a shitpost >>181768884
That's actually possible without using the wall?
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Did the EU servers just die or what
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>>181768865
Are you gay?
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>>181768865
I just finished a set against a King player and I feel like now I know all his most used moves.

Feels great to literally read your opponent and and win 10 matches in a row
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>>181768971
But Tekken is better on PC and my budget doesn't currently allow me to build a good one.
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Local tourney in an hour. Maiming Miguel.
Nervous as hell.
Especially since I know the best three players there use Xaiyou, Hwaorang and Dragunov and I'm still not good at handling those three characters.

W-wish me luck.
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Be honest, /tekgen/, does playing this game stress you out sometimes?
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>>181769284
Which character did you pick?
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>>181769171
yea it's possible midscreen as you can see. the amount of electrics you need to grind to be able to do this is mindboggling. not even knee goes for these kind of combos because it's just not worth it.

although if you can land ch df2 pewgf in a real match you can do 6 electrics.
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>>181769380
Only when I face:

Hwaorang, Alisa, Law or King

I used to hate Eddy but I know they're all memers and don't actually think they're good
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>>181768836
Not what I was asking.

>>181768971
Yeah, consoles are an option but then I can't browse the chan and keep up my meme score. Also what he said >>181769320
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>>181769380
No, because it's just a game
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>>181768870
>gets btfo
>w-where are the proofs
It's a shame you wasted your time with that explanation considering he just wants to claim an argument victory rather than actually learn
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Someone explain to me the thought process of why Bears needed to be nerfed.
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>>181768870
>>181769578
S-S-Still no webm!
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>>181769773
Harada wants them in the game for flavor but doesn't actually want them to be competitive.
I don't know.
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>>181769773
bears need to be removed from the fucking game
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Still so fucking mad we don't get jukebox on PC

Legitimately makes me play it less
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Attention all narcoleptic vampire players
Use b4 dp1 thanks have fun
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>>181769989
pc jukebox is in the files so it's probably dlc. if not someone will mod it in.
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>>181769007
>go against Main Man
>gets 6 ewgf'd
>mindfucked
>hours later, realize he uploaded it
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>>181769389
Leo

>>181769989
I have the background music volume set to 0 and a tekken playlist on loop
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Can someone help me out? Are any of Ninas strings actually useful? And if so what are they. I find people just standing block and make a lot of my pressure irrelevant unless I'm near a wall. She has good lows but they definitely aren't safe. Thanks in advanced.
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This game sucks for stance characters

Can I have a lei? I'll take a Zafina
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>>181770197
have a hwoarang or a yoshi
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>>181769989
I'm a sonygger and I see now reason everyone shouldnt have it
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>>181769989
It's in the files. Most likely a timed exclusive. Genuinely hope you guys get it as well. Non one deserves to listen to G Corp Night's song.
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>>181769989
here's a link to the pc jukebox mod:

www.youtube.com
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>>181770440
No*
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>>181770576
>>181770147
obviously you can YT playlist but it's not the same as settings each stage individually to the music you want. YT playlist you have to do it manually, jukebox you just set it and forget it.
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I WANT THE DARK COLORS BACK
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>>181770817
I could see why people would be bothered by the lack of jukebox but I thought that everyone and their grandma has their own music library at this point. I personally haven't heard a single in-game piece of music in years.
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>>181768870
>>181769578

Holy crap, this is like talking to a wall.

See: >>181766881
>I even told you I would have changed tactics if they side rolled when getting up.

What part of, "if I saw them tech to the side I would NOT have done another d+1+2," is so hard for you to understand?

Your argument is retarded because it is basically, "but if you did this thing you said you would NOT do then you would be fucked."
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>>181771071
sometimes i want to listen to my own playlist. sometimes i want to listen to the tekken tracks i set. cant do that on pc.
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>>181769845
>>181769845

Lmao, I'm fucking chuckling.

Whenever I'm having a bad day I can always literally go on /tekgen/ and blow him the fuck out and watch him choke for a good laugh
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>>181771163
>can't kbd at all
>as oscar
what a shame. thought you had potential
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>>181770324
Hwo has lame stances and yoshi is too meme for me.
I'll just play ling till dlc I suppose
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When's the right time to use EWGF in a match against a real opponent? I'm not bad with the execution of it, but I can only properly utilise it in real-time once in a blue moon.
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how to get out of yellow?
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>>181771539
>another red herring
Can't say I am surprised, but the one on the left is a recording.
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>>181771691
Stop rage quitting.
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>>181771803
Alright. How do I get out of blue?
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>>181771803
But I don't?
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>>181771738
>can't even block a low that's recorded
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>>181771574
you use it as a punishing tool for moves that -14,15 or more (-14 is pretty difficult). you use it as a whiff punishing tool when they are close. you use it for pressure since it's +5 on block. you use it after when you duck or sidestep an obvious move.

really just use it as often as possible when you are in the right range. it's a high though so good players will try and duck and punish it but that's when you bring out the mids.
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>>181771936
stop losing
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>>181771163
This entire argument is retarded from both sides. Just shut up already. You're arguing about nothing
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>>181771936
Just keep practicing, Anon. I believe in you

>>181771948
That was a joke, Anon. You know, since your name goes yellow if you rage quit frequently.
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>>181771936
Spam jabs and higcrushing moves, use some frametrap and maybe ch launch.
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With Gigas, how do I make him look as good as possible
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>>181768773

PS4/XB1
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Can anyone confirm if Eliza was released for us shitlords with 1.03?
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>>181772116
Actualy havent seen any yellow names. Is this feature even on steam?
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>>181772058
>>181772116
Been demoted twice since grandmaster. I'll try my best.
>>181772120
>ch launch
So if my character has a magic 4 just fish the fuck out of that in neutral?
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>>181772239
No.
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>>181772253
I think it is...? Not too sure on that if I'm honest.
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>>181772132
Color him brown, main Nigga Gigas
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someone told me a couple days ago that playing on a TV was bad for fighting games. is this true, and is it really that bad?
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>>181771969
The entire argument assumes you already got hit by the first d+1+2, jack ass.
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>>181770158
HELP ME PLS, I DONT WANNA BE A BAD NINA AND I LIKE PLAYING HER SO MUCH :(
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>>181772417
Depends on the latency of the screen. Monitors usually boast better latency, but not always.
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>>181772283
not neccacery magic 4, but if you have easy magic 4 all the better. I think I got out of blues by not letting enemy have their turn. Proper defence requires backdash cancel and thats thing that gets you out of green.
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>>181771163
>Damage control
o am laffin

How can you talk this much shit when you literally duck 80% arguments aimed at you and nitpick one little part to try hide your faggotry?

How can you talk this much shit when literally a half hour ago you were talking about how wanting to use the lab to learn play optimally is shit mentality

How can you say talk this much shit when retarded when you're fighting on the same level as a 5th dan LMAOOOO

Stay blue
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I main le whacky meme swordsman cause hes so quirky n random like me :d
LOOK AT MY GIMMICKS LOOKA THE CRAZY MOVES HES SO FUNNY PRAISE LE SUN OOPS WRONG GAME :P
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Who is lucifer and why is he a horrible meme in every goddamn thread.
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>>181772751
someone just got dumped on by a yoshi i see
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>>181772517
>thinking I would read your shitty replies
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>>181772751
Anon are you well?? Do you need us to call someone for you?
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>>181772751
what did he mean by this?
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>>181772718
Stop replying to him you piece of human trash.
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>>181772718
>Lucy vs Anon
>>Promotion chance

In one WebM, I just proved anon was full of shit for the entire argument and completely BTFO. That is good enough for me.

>promoted
:^)
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Can you see if your name goes yellow if you rage quit too much?
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>>181773261
what do you look like in real life
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>>181773261
>"promoted"

but anon your blue ranked ass hasn't seen a promotion in weeks looool
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>>181773419
yep
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>play someone lower rank because I always accept the first match that comes up
>he leaves after 1 set

nigga
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How do you guys usually go about learning a new character?

Do you learn things in a specific order?

Do you take notes?

Do you just play and let it all come to you naturally?

Got a few characters that I'm wanting to pick up and just wanted to know the best way to go about doing it.
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>>181773508
Would you see it in the Online menu or ingame?
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>Just 3-0'd a Juggernaut ranked opponent
Feels good.
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Can I play Nina in the shitter ranks or should I pick another character?
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>>181773261
>Spent the entirety of the last thread getting ANALLY DEVASTATED
>"I-I win!1!!"

D E D
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>>181773157
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Does anyone in europe want to play on PC? I'm pretty drunk right now and can't play in ranked, but can't find anyone in player matches either.
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>>181773790
the little pop-up that you can bring up before the match in the bottom right, where it has your name and the opponents name and shows you who the host is. it'll show your name yellow down there if the game has flagged you for RQing. i assume you can see it during the match as well since you can bring up the same pop-up.

the warning message you get for RQing when you select 'Online' will start showing a disconnection % when you get close, and your name turns yellow at 10% and probably red at 20%.
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>>181774256
get fucked fucking dress up shitter
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>>181774317
How do you bring up that icon on PS4, i never even knew about it
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>>181774582
Click the touch rectangle thing
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>>181774426
t. edgy Mishima main
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>>181774256
CHANGE
PALETTE
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>>181774582
the big center touchpad, press it
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Is Hwoarang hard? His kicks are cool as shit
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>>181774691
That's not the problem. It's already set to the color I want it, but then changes to white once I reload
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>>181774261
>I'm pretty drunk right now
It's Wednesday...
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>>181774825
It's summer.
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ayyy i did it
Kat will carry me to tekken god prime
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How do you deal with Hwo's endless mashing? Holy fuck!

And no, spending 8 hours to learn every string, just to spend yet another 8 to learn how to stop it isn't an option.
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>>181774317
Not him but does it appear also in Casual Matches?
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>>181775314
Seems weird, first yellow rank should put your other characters at the first green etc

Once you hit Brawler all your characters get Initiate right?
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>>181775415
i don't think so. you can quit as many quick matches as you want so I wouldn't think it would show it over there.
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>>181774825
>implying I have a job
I still need someone to scrub around with
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>>181775590
No I mean does it show as yellow if you rage quit in ranked in casual matches
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>>181772132
I have him as a cowboy/ranger/sheriff

Cowboy hat, warrior top, leather pants, revolver, stun baton
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>>181775575
Yeah I think so, whatever the first blue rank is.
Honestly I think the way they have it is fine. GM still matches you with green ranks, up until Vanguard, which is the last tier of green. So that way you're unable to match up to warrior, but able to match all the green ranks.
Unless I'm missing something.
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>>181775324
Backdash and sidestep that shit
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>>181774760
>Is Hwoarang hard?

Yes.

His moveset is one of the largest if not the largest.
He has 3 stances and numerous stance transitions that you need to learn.

>>181775324
Nigga just dickjab

t. Former Hwoarang main
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Give me some Feng customs
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>>181775324
If you down jab you'll interup a lot of his strings. I don't think anything he does jails either, but I could be wrong.
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>>181776081
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>tfw my truck died today AND I got demoted
How do I get good so I can overcome this horrible day /tekgen/?
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>>181775741
like I said, I don't think it does. pretty sure that the disconnect penalty system is only in place for ranked, that's why I brought up the point about quick matches.

i wasn't under a yellow name whenever I was doing quick matches though, so I can't confirm it for sure. i don't think most people care, though. i still got plenty of matches in ranked when my name was yellow, I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem for quick match.
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>>181776723
Oh, because the past hour a lot of games didn't connect, I guess the servers are kinda slow right now
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>5 bars
>lag out the ass

Explain.
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What did the PC update do? And if my name turns yellow can I ever get it back to normal?
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MOMMY
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>>181776984
>And if my name turns yellow can I ever get it back to normal?
yes, just play enough matches to drop your disconnect % below 10%.

my disconnect percentage reset completely when my flag got taken off, so I don't know what's going on there.
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>>181773706
learn their standing punishes
learn the while standing punishes
learn core moves and when to use what when
learn some high crush
learn some low crush
watch koreans play that character (great for learning situational moves, guaranteed moves, character specific tech, etc.)
practice
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>>181776709
I was 1 rank away from finally leaving blue and I got demoted twice.

I don't think you're as angry as I am
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>>181777339
>finally grind my way back to green rank promo match after getting demoted back to expert
>it's a Kuma player with less than 50 wins

RIP
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>tfw you were bad at SF so you thought you might be good at GG but you were bad so you thought you might be good at Tekken but you're bad

it doesn't end, does it? I'm just not made for video games
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>>181777597
"being good" is just practice anon
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Anyone here mains Mr. tentacle sword man? I'm thinking of picking him up. How is he overall? And any tips on playing him?
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>>181773706
>practice mode (Learn their top 15 moves. Learn a combo you can land from multiple launchers. Learn some jab strings.)
>treasure battle
>back to practice mode and repeat until I am ready to play online

Before playing online for the day, hit practice mode then 10 win streak in treasure battle.
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>>181777716
Meme as hard as you can and you will literally never lose unless you meme too hard and kill yourself
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>>181777716
He's probably the best he's ever been, but he still isn't amazing. Has a lot of utility and has the advantage of being a little cooky but his damage is still mediocre for everything but his easy to drop combos.
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Name one character more braindead then Paul. I'll wait
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>>181777636
It's not just that, I'm predictable and I don't learn from my opponent and I let them keep getting away with the same thing again and again and I don't react fast enough and other stuff
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>>181777897
Or make excuses, that's cool too
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>>181777886
>Literally every Paul i have faced has lag and on top of that spams his Death Fist
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>>181777597
I'm honestly not sure which is harder at high level play, GG or Tekken. Regardless they're both tough as fuck. SF has honestly never held a candle to the two.
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>>181777886
>character designed so that 5 year olds and the mentally retarded can compete too
nah I think you win this one, anon.
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>>181777886
Josie
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>>181777886
Josie
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>>181778137
>>181778138
JOSIE MIND
Seriously though explain yourselves
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>>181777886
Josie
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>>181778137
>>181778138
Kek.
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>>181777886
but paul is supposed to be braindead, you're meant to play xiaoyu if you're clever
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>>181778137
>>181778138
>>181778205
t. Mashing blue ranks
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>>181777886
Josie is on par and so is Law
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>>181778459
I'm a mashing green rank thank you

wanna know why? I play Josie
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Retard question, but how do I roll sideways on the ground?
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>>181778180
>>181778207
>>181778459
Josie is unga as fuck, annoying lows, great launchers, simple yet easy combos, high wall damage and 50/50s everywhere.
t. warrior
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Seriously how do I launch people as Bob without using his uf3, db1+2 or his dragon uppercut? Everyone has these jabs into launchers that they can combo off of but I can't find shit.
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>>181778410
Xiaoyu is based.
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total noob and no lifer ready to git gud at tekkan, can someone give me the run down on the following fighters. Who's good for a beginner? Also I plan on spending hours in the labs so i dont mind picking up a complex char.

>Jin
>Steve
>miguel
>shaheen
>MRaven
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>>181778753
1 or d+1
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>>181779269
raven and steve are the hardest out of that list, but you should pick whoever you jive the most with.
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>>181779269
read the character overviews in the op

shaheen and miguel are the easiest there
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>>181772132

>TFW tried to make him Belias the Gigas from Final Fantasy Tactics

>Keyword being tried
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>>181779094
Bob has no quick standing 15 frame launcher

b,b+4 is an orbital

CDS+1 is one of his best moves and launches on CH

WS1,2 is a 14 frame crounching punish move.
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>hit a wall in blue ranks
>remember to actually fucking backdash and punish whiffs
>moving up again
Such a simple thing yet I completely forgot to implement it. It's like a overloaded my brain with all the other less important shit
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BUFF LEE
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>>181780070
Buff ling pls :)
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>>181780018
Lmao backdash gets important in yellow ranks imo. Just spam a easy to see mid low throw mixup and get yourself to green
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>>181772537
>d1 is the fastest dickjab. Learn when you can use it to interrupt someone. Learn when to not use it when someone starts hopkicking.

>f2,1,4 and f2,1,12 has really good range, learn to use it to interrupt someone trying to get in closer

>df3,4,3 and df3,4,34 is also a good string to interrupt someone trying to get close, but learn to use it only as a CH move since a lot of people know how to defend the string

>qcf1 is basically a high crushing, long range, 1 jab that launches. Shit's good man. Also like a jab you get +1 if it gets blocked.

>also learn to beat it to nina's armpits every day for extra motivation
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Something always funny about watching an Asuka stand there helplessly when they misjudge a parry
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>match is intense
>last round
>panic and kill them with a rage art

Hah! B...Bitch~
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>All these salty scrubs in here bitching about paul
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>>181779269
>Jin
Well rounded and adaptable.
Truly shines when the user's fundamentals are strong.
Generally middle difficulty character due to the need to have solid fundamentals to optimize.

>Steve
Great rushdown/pressure character with some insanely good CH tools.
One of the hardest characters to play optimally due to the precision, practice and execution required to execute his offense.

>Miguel
Solid mid/close range in your face bully character. Great at breaking down the opponent with amazing pokes and close range game.
Might just have the best lows in the game.
Though his moveset isn't as simplistic as others, he isn't the hardest character out there

>Shaheen
I don't play sand niggers

>MRaven
I don't play niggers
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Leo is CUTE but everyone and their mother plays HER. what do?
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>>181777803
All this advice and yet you're still blue ranks with one of the easiest characters in the game.
Really boggles the ol' noggin
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How do I know which moves high crush? Do low crush moves besides hopkicks also exist?
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>>181780771
Not him but can you also do one for Law, Lars and Kat?
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>>181780859
I am not playing Josie or Kat. Also, I stopped playing ranked and just play player matches. That doesn't have any effect on me trying to mentor new players.
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>>181773706
i just go off basics and from what i've watched high level players do or use. building from that, i figure out the notation for all the moves i want to use including punishers and such, and then some combos after that. then i try them in games at locals or online.
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>>181779269

>Jin
You'll never master his true potential because you won't be able to consistently ewgf

>Steve
Stances are too complicated

>Miguel
Decent pick, savage stance is easy to understand

>Shaheen
He would be a good noob character if it weren't for the fact that his obnoxious slide input is crucial to using him at the most basic level.

>MRaven
Too high execution

Out of those five Miguel is the most noob friendly.
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I think Bears are the only characters I will never give a run back
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Ok so apparently I don't get the points system

>PS4
>2-0 player 1 rank below me
>find new opponent 1 rank above me
>no promo match
>3-0 him
>no promo
>lose the next two matches against him
>demo chance

How?
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Is there any good law player here that could coach me?
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>>181781098
Asuka might be the easiest character in the game lol
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>>181780687
>watching aris play asuka
>he screams HAND OVER YOUR POINTS and parries
>his opponent is low rank and nervously just backs away
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>>181776081
>wifebeater
>monkey king hair or whatever its called
>formal pants
>tan
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>>181778043
If SF was no match Wong wouldnt be able to get 4th at EVO in T5 while barely playing the game. SF is the most competitive, the most talented fighting game players all play SF. Fuudo (VF) plays SF, Tokido/Xiaohai (KOF) play to SF, now Machabo (GG God) is playing SF as well. No, the question you need to ask yourself why not a single Tekken player has made it into 2d.
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>>181781146
>>181779493
>>181779558

Thanks guys, much appreciated
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>six round losing streak
>beat one guy twice
>Promotion Chance
I don't understand this system at all.
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>>181781146
thanks, yeah im thinking of picking up Miguel and Jin as well. Jin cause of muh nostalgia
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>demoted do 1st dan
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>>181781662
>>181781232
This shit is why I stopped playing ranked matches.
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>>181781098
bro you play Asuka lmaoo
stop with the excuses, you're bad.
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Does PC have unlimited revenge matches?
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>>181781098
you are a new player tho
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>>181781735
so what happens now, anon?
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>>181781923
not till next week
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>>181781790
Don't blame the system for you being retarded.
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Fuck Harada stupid fucking negro HACK. I just want to play Eliza
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>>181781951
I have never made a secret of being new to Tekken. I am just sharing what works for me. I am not new to 3D fighters in general though.

>>181782180
>be 3rd Dan
>Shit stomp 6 grand masters
>lost to 1
>beat an Expert
>nothing
Hm . . .
>Lose to a 3rd Dan Paul twice
>Demotion

[sarcasm]
Yeah, that makes complete and logical sense.
[/sarcasm]
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>>181781065
>Law
Solid close range bully character with fast pokes and solid lows
Plays very well in the hands of offensive minded players
Certainly not a hard character to play

>Lars
Fairly flexible character whose tools cover many situations.
Can find success playing either offensively or defensively.
Fairly easy characters to get to grips with. Executing at a higher level may require slightly more effort though.

>Katarina
Fairly straight forward character with a simple game plan.
Possesses some amazing counter hit tools. Solid for players that fish for big hits for big damage. Somewhat high risk, high reward.
Easily among the easiest characters to learn and easiest characters to play
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reminder to just ignore lucifer
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>>181782619
>gets BTFO, again
>remember to ignore him and the fact that he keeps verbally trouncing me
LOL, every time.
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>>181782439
>Owning up to be 3rd dan shitter

Good lord, I thought you were at least blue but you're a worse player than I thought
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>>181782439
so your input is not very valuable then if youre completely new to tekken
i know some soul calibur and virtua fighter veterans and they are currently seriously struggling learning tekken and these guys like actually went to tournaments and competed in their games whereas im assuming you were not that competitive
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>>181780771
please take your racism back to /pol/
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>>181782439
>Plays Asuka "unga" Kazama
>Still can't make it past 3rd dan

MY FUCKING SIDES!
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>>181781481
>If SF was no match Wong wouldnt be able to get 4th at EVO in T5 while barely playing the game

That was T5.0 and he was playing against nothing but Americans. He also used Steve. You remember what Steve was like in 5.0 right.

He didn't do anything in the game in another other year. It's the "DSP won Evo" of Tekken results.
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>>181782837
I haven't been 3rd Dan for a long time.

>>181782876
Back to the ad hominem, eh?
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>>181782439
It makes sense if you lost matches beforehand
>beat 6 grand masters: +0.75 overall
>lose to one: +0.625 overall
>beat an expert: +.75 overall
>lose to 3rd dan: -1.25 overall

It's this system or the opposite like street fighter where losing one match against somebody low enough negates like 20 matches of wins.
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>>181783034
what ad hominem
i guess the act of just referring to you is an ad hominem
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>connection has been lost
Nice patch
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Would you accept a match against an Overlord in quick matches?
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>>181783034
>"I haven't been 3rd Dan for a long time"
>Proceeds to post a webm of him fighting 3rd Dan with online rank hidden

I mean if you're gonna lie, at least cover your tracks
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>>181783117
I get it; it just isn't logical that a grand master should be worth less than a 3rd Dan.
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>>181783284
Shut up and suck that Harada dick boy this is how we roll.
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>leo has a dab and a dab cancel move

might have to play this character
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>>181783284
>playing post patch PS4
>first match found within 10 seconds of waiting
>connection lost has been lost, guaranteed
>second match found takes anywhere from another 5 to 30 seconds
>connects, guaranteed

Weird shit but I'm fine with it.
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>>181783293
*dodges*
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>>181783017
Wong played Jack. Also, he doesnt play Tekken whatsoever, surely American faggots that main the game should beat that Capcom faggot blindfolded? Another example, just to show you how well Tekken "fundamentals" transfer over: Aris played NRS games competitively, was beating up everyone on stream with I2's Deadshot...Floe comes along online, bodied...Chris G comes along online, bodied, he even RQ his stream after. Floe/Chris dont even play NRS trash unlike Aris. LEL. Tekken is meme city central, these fuckers cant do shit in any other fighting game. Also, a woman is relevant in your game..........MOTHERFUCKING LOL THE WEAKEST MOST INFERIOR SPECIES ON THE PLANET IS RELEVANT IN TEKKEN, WHILE NOT A SINGLE GIRL HAS EVER AND I REPEAT NEVER EVER EVER MADE IT OUT OF POOLS IN 2D ONCE. You got served, now shut the fuck up and KBD your fat ass back home.
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>>181783034
>I haven't been 3rd Dan for a long time.
What'd you get demoted to?
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How many packs of cigs did Dragunov smoke to get his voice to be that raspy.
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>>181784097
lol
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>>181784097
this nigga mentally ill lmao
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>>181784134
Fucking lol
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>>181784134
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>>181784097
wong was grinding the game in 5.0 and i think dr
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>>181784436
He was, played a bit of nina and jack I believe. Maybe feng as well
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>>181784097
Austic 017er /fgg/ babby. Watch Mr. Naps' evil roo in SF4. Also nobody gives a shit about NRS games unironically.
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>>181782573
Laws DSS is a noob filter. He's not especially hard to play, but he does come with some challenges.
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>>181784097
IS THAT YOU LTG
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>>181782573
Could you do the Mishimas?
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>>181784134

Lmfaoooo
Silly tripfag is on suicide watch
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>>181784097
>capcucks are so mad they're literally flocking to our general just to cry
the fucking state of capcucks
don't worry, the next character will save SFV for sure.. Tekken will be finished once MvCI drops...
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>>181784708
>Tekken will be finished once MvCI drops
>not that new DBZ game that surpasses MvCI by Eons
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>>181784134
naisu
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>>181784097
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>>181784558
yea i remember he was trying to go in hard on feng after trying lili and nina
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>>181784708
Literally nobody wants MVCI. Not even fucking Reddit approves of it. And they're the most cancerous userbase.
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>>181785103
This is correct
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>>181784179
He doesn't even pronounce a single word.
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For those that have Eliza, how good is she, realistically speaking?
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>>181785524
eeeeyahhhh
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>>181784179
Well he is a Slav
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every time its a salty 1 - 1 goddamn
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>Kuma running through tournament
>says he's gonna switch characters
>plays Panda
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>>181786069
>salty 1-1
>realize if i wanted to rank up i might as well not have played those matches
>might as well just cherry pick easy matches
>and dodge all characters i have trouble with
I don't do that shit but it's hard not to sometimes when points are on the line.
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>>181786069
What's a salty 1-1?
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>>181786245
>>181786069
also doesn't make sense they're making it infinite now.. all people wanted was a best of 3
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learning this game with kazuya really is hard mode fuck
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WHERE IS ALEX
WHERE IS MOKUJIN
WHERE IS JULIA
WHERE IS ANNA
WHERE IS P. JACK
WHERE IS ARMOR KING
WHERE IS BRUCE
WHERE IS FORREST
WHERE IS LEI
WHERE IS KUNIMITSU

No, instead we have Street Figther characters
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>>181786256
win, other guy wins revenge match, win quit.
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>>181786462
Not on PC.
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>>181786807
Those are all functions.
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>>181786932
I'm 300 matches in and it feels like I've yet to play against like half the roster
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>>181786665
I dunno man. I recently played around with Kazuya, did some of his staple combos and stuff. He really doesn't seem hard at all, and shits out damage. Obviously I wasn't doing perfect electrics but beyond that he seemed pretty basic.
I found devil jins combos harder.

Speaking of Devil Jin, I just realized I don't think I've ever played one online. Maybe they just don't exist below red ranks or something.
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i dont know what xiayou is doing 90% of the time
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im trying to main nina, and i find her combos too complicated? or hard? i mean the combos with ws moves and something like that..i made it to brawler then demoted to expert, and i feel like i cant progress any further not in ranks but in skill? i only do some average damage with some sample combos, some advice please?
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AOP is fucking bullshit seriously

>>181787359
combos isnt the problem here its neutral
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Who is the best pubstomoer character

When I want to shit on randos without expending any effort at all early in bracket, who should I pocket?
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Well, I won two rounds against a bot...and then he stopped letting me tackle him for free.
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>>181786932
>>181787242
Didn't mean to reply to you
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It's nothing big to a lot of you but for my first time playing tekken and my first time using an arcade stick in a fighting game i'm proud as shit to get out of blue ranks.

(blog post)
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I love when she goes into that low stance since she can't block.
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>>181786932
No they are not
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>>181787402
Neither does she
Unlike Eddy you can launch her with an orbital. So, play Bryan, Kat, Lars, Alisa, etc and just go to town on her whenever she does her little fuckme stance.
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>try to sidestep kazumi WR attack
>it hits me literally every single time

wtf is this shit i can sidestep it fine in practice mode
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I love Bob but he's too limited feeling to me. His mixup game is really weak and I feel like that's a big role in this. Is Xiaoyu really that hard to play? I don't know who else to try out
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>>181787778
Hey would you like to play a few games?
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>>181787778
>hiding your rank
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>>181787778
Another classic lucy webm that will be posted again and again. I really should just filter you at this point but being in /dsg/ for so long has kinda numbed me. Plus it's fun seeing you get bullied every thread.
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Unlimited ranked matches have fucked me. I don't know when to quit against better opponents
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>>181787686
Good work! Keep working hard and you'll get to Warrior in no time!
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I'm addicted to MainMan's videos. He's the best Tekken tuber. Help.
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>>181788783
consider suicide
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THERES TOO MANY STRINGS IN THIS FUCKING GAME
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how are running moves even real lmao just sidestep them, walk away nigga
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Did the patch do anything about the eight frame delay? I really like the unlimited revenge matches and quicker matchmaking changes.
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>name one of his moves that is unsafe
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Was talkin to a friend and he maintains that all players should be decent at Ryu in addition to their main for sfv

Which character is that for Tekken?
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>>181788991
Snake Edge
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What's the verdict?
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>>181789201
trash game amigo
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>>181789056
What is your friend's reasoning for that opinion?
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>>181789201
would have been good without the tag crash bullshit
>double capo into gangbang: the movie
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>>181788962
It lowered the input delay from 7.2 to 6.8. It is not a big change. It's a start and hopefully they try to lower it more. Genuinely hope you ps4 guys can get Harada to give you the same experience as PC/Xbox.
>>
How do you feel about this song? Personally I think's it's the best to come from Tekken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyl7t3uoAII
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I genuinely wish the worst on Lili players
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>>181789201
It was fun.
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>>181789464
it's not even the best one from that game
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>>181789464
i agree. tag 2's remix is basically 2nd best.
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>>181784618
>Universal traits
Best in the business when it comes to punishment.
Excel at controlling the pace of the match with great space control and keep out tools
Generally Well rounded
Very hard to play due to requiring well honed fundamentals, accuracy, execution and practice to maximize their potential.

>Kazuya
Incredibly solid defense orientated Mishima with insanely good punish game and great space control
Benefits defensive minded players as he's based around solid block punishment and using movement and spacing to create whiffs
Lacks 13f mid, easy 15f launcher and panic moves so player is forced to actually play smart to see success with Kazuya
Hard to play optimally as he lives and dies by fundamentals and requires player to be very good at identifying and capitalizing on opponents mistakes

>Heihachi
Incredibly solid offense orientated Mishima. Has insanely good mids and solid pressure moves, allowing him to play very aggressively.
Lacks solid lows so can be difficult to chip away a seasoned defensive players.
Benefits offensive minded players as his movelist allows him to play some very suffocating offense
Hard to play optimally as he requires player to be able to have great movement to be able to seemlessly move in into range 0/1 to execute offense and out into range 2 when it's time to play neutral

>Devil Jin
Incredibly solid character. The most well rounded Mishima and considered the middle ground between Heihachi's offensive style and Kazuya's defensive style
Extremely adaptable and has an answer for most situations, thus allowing him to suit most player playstyles
Preforms greatly in every department: Punishment, lows, pressure, etc, but despite being a jack-of-all trades, he doesn't necessarily specialize in anything.
Probably the easiest of the three to play as he possesses 1 or 2 evasive panic moves and doesn't have to rely on EWGF to launch punish -15. That being said, he still remains one of the hardest characters in the game to optimize.
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>>181789464
I dont feel its the best to come from tekken in general, but its pretty high up there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-2cp6rBf0k
One of my personal favorites
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>demoted back to expert again

lmao im not seeing green ranks until 200+ wins
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>>181789370
Something about fundamentals iirc
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>hit with one launcher into wall
Game over. This game is fucking garbage
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>>181790048
Don't get launched.
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lows like miguels far reaching punch and kings FC punch really fuck me up. my brain cannot process they are hitting me from that far away with a low
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>>181789929
If you're playing chloe swap to josie or lili orbasically any female but nina and you'll get there much sooner.
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how do you stop kazuyas lightning screw uppercut is it unblockable?
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>law hits me with his power crush
>half my hp bar gone
>he can do this as a combo ender too against the wall
yeah idk about balance in this game
just doesn't seem consistent
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>>181790278
You must really hate Eliza's MG 4 and Katarina's sweep then. I feel you.
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>>181789056
>Which character is that for Tekken?

In Tekken, I can't really say there's a specific character to be decent with in addition to your main.

That being said, there are a few characters that I would avoid playing until you're proficient as they slow down your development as a Tekken player.
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>>181790169
Lol
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>>181790363
nah man im playing kazuya
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>>181789878
>tfw maining hwoarang because all of his themes are goat-tier
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watching speedkicks on PS4 right now, these connections are awful jesus christ

fuck wifi console users
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>>181790372
hit him
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>>181790015
Asuka or Kazuya would probably be the closest to what he is talking about.
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>>181790513
Why isn't he playing on PC? Is he the only one still playing on it?
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>>181790372
Any moves that have hit effects before hitting you are unblockables. Get out of the way or interrupt them.
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What are Alisa's and Lili's playstyle? Looking for a sub now that I got my main to green ranks.
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>>181790891
see the op
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>>181790891
Lili's a rushdown powerhouse.
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>>181789683
what is?
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>>181790891
Being a piece of shit
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>>181791209
Did you lose to them recently?
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>trillions of moves positive on block
>never ending strings
>THE rage art
post a bigger noob crusher if you even can
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>>181788991
1, 1, 1, 1, 2 (everything past the first 1)

Low soccer kick

ws3, 4

f, f 2

1, 2, 3

f+2,1 4 (every hit)

Snake edge. I could keep going but you get the idea. The key to beating Bryan is to smother him. All of his moves take like 20 frames to come out and all of his launchers are awkward to play with. Now quit your bitching nigger.
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>run up and block when an opponent has rage because i know hes gonna do some dumb shit
>lag spike
>i get hit
>was literally holding back the whole time

o-ok
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>>181791274
King
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>>181791274
>armor on Savage Stance 1+2
>launches into 70~ damage
>90+ with wall

I can't.
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>>181790410
>Katarina's sweep then. I feel you.

i realize i'm a shitter, but Katrina's d/f+34 makes me DIAMONDS

the range is just obscene
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>>181791274
It's Paul by far look at all the noobs ITT crying about him.
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I haven't seen anyone use Panda ever.
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>On characters for beginners/people who have just gotten into Tekken 7
- Saint suggests Lili, JDCR agrees

Remember to play the French lesbian
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What's the worst move in the game to deal with?
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>>181791962
Is she really a lesbian?
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>>181792029
AOP bullshit
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>>181784097
get that ass banned nigga
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>>181792097
I mean, she goes way out of her way to get closer to Asuka. She might as well be.
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>>181791253
I'm kidding
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>>181787954
>His mixup game is really weak
?????

He has a literal hellsweep

d/b+4 is a low that have a mid follow up incase they block it.

d/b+3+4 is a fucked up low that does 26 damage and leaves you at +8

Mix in these lows with the literal fuckton of mids he has at his disposal and your mid/low mixup game is set.

t. Non-shitter learning how to play Bob
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>>181791962
I've been playing alot of Lili's today. I'm getting better at blocking that fucking sweep thankfully
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>>181792368
Make sure to watch out for her hopkick.
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>>181791690
>Katrina's d/f+34 makes me DIAMONDS
Fuck yes, this move got me to Juggernaut rank.

It's like her one good low but it's insanely fucking good.

I legit pre-cum a little bit every time I land a guaranteed stomp when it connects on counterhit.
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>>181792441
That god damn back flip kick has been fucking me up too. I havent played her much before today
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>>181792503

i've breezed up to green in 40 wins

but now i'm scared niggers will catch onto my shit, so I'm focusing more on d+3 and d/f+3

gotta condition those low guards for u+4
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>when you're excited for infinite revenge matches to finally be implemented on PC but then you realize everyone just winquits anyway so it doesn't matter
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>>181792738
Grab a frametrap into df4 and rack up even more wins.
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>>181792287
His lows are too slow and predictable. Only his fndf4 is slightly non predictable
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I dare any of you to read the Tekken 7 steam forums, holy shit its worse than gamefaqs.
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>>181793095

i don't really know what a frame trap us. i just focus on spacing and learning my quickest/most rewarding moves
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>>181793291
gamefaqs is great though.
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>>181793324
you're missing out anon
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I hate getting baited by the dumbest shit shit like dash up block. The motherfucker was doing dumb dash up shit I punished the whole fucking round that I punished. Then he grows a brain at the last second and decides to bait me.

Jesus fuck. ONE DECISION HE OUTPLAYED ME ON AND ONE GUESS AND I WAS DEAD.

I NEED A CIGARETTE.
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Why does Kazuya have no good lows?
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>>181793556
all you need is hellsweep and db4
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How do I make training for countless hours, going online only to get your shit pushed in "fun"?
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>>181793518
>ONE DECISION HE OUTPLAYED ME ON AND ONE GUESS AND I WAS DEAD.
This is why Tekken is crap competitively. It is much fun though.
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>>181793379

it's not by choice. i'm just new and still figuring shit out. i also hate the "studying and reading shit" portion of fighting games. i just try to learn by practice
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>>181793324
Frametraps are basically making the opponent think they have an opportunity to attack when they don't. Like, for example, if someone is mashing jab to get out of a string. A frametrap punishes that.
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anyone got that video that use to be on early2017.com? doesnt seem to work for me
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>>181793824
>Frametraps are basically making the opponent think they have an opportunity to attack when they don't

so basically just utilizing your superior knowledge of your own character to create the perception of vulnerability/greed?
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>>181793235
>His lows are too slow
Loooool, senpai what are you talking about.

db+3, his go-to low, comes out in 20 frames. No one is blocking 20 frames on reaction

d+4 comes out in 16 frames which is standard for a high crushing low move. No one is blocking 16 frames on reaction.

db+3+4,4 comes out in 19 frames. No one is blocking 19 frames on reaction.

Literally none of Bob's lows are slow enough to be blocked on reaction.

>predictable
This is a silly thing to say. Lows are literally only as predictable as you make them. If you opponent was able to predict your low and block it, then it's your fault for allowing yourself to become too obvious in your offense, not the character's fault.
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>>181794045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tym_r716zgs&feature=youtu.be

nvm i found it
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>>181792191
So it's all fanon? Okay.
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>>181794110
Basically. But if you don't do the frame trap, you can usually go for a mixup since the opponent expects you to do it.

Anything that gives a launch on counterhit is a good tool for frametraps.
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>steam is still on day 1 + half of today's patch
I trusted Harada too much
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I have a lot of trouble against people that just hold back after my blockstrings or whatever you call them in Tekken. I play Kazuya and I either try to hellsweep them, db4 or db3 but lots of times I just get jabbed or they hit me with a hopkick or something random. If I try to wavedash I get hit out of hit.

Lots of times if I just block they do nothing and get to move back out of range for free, giving them enough to react to whatever I do to continue pressure. The only time this doesn't work is at the wall where I can so shit like jab jab df4, backdash see if they whiff something, etc.

tl;dr I don't how to keep pressure as Kazuya.
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>>181794243
Ye she just buys people's dojos for fun
And has a like modifier for Asuka in TTT2
Nothing to see here
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>>181794334
>counterhiit

is that using 1+2
+3+4, or do you mean a "counter hit" in a literal sense?

i've been using the former just because I assumed it gave me a frame or damage boost
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>>181794484
>trusting that piece of shit

He lied about Eliza being available after 30 days, lied about reducing the ps4 input delay enough to be noticeable, removed dark colors because "muh competitive sponsors"etc. Fuck him.
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>>181794824
>He lied about Eliza being available after 30 days

no he didn't

> lied about reducing the ps4 input delay enough to be noticeable

no he didn't

>removed dark colors because "muh competitive sponsors"etc.

fuck off faggot. nobody wants to fight your gimp drag or invisible jack trash
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>>181794571
Literal sense. Different moves can launch if you get a 'counterhit' vs not. You're talkin' about Katarina, ya?
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>>181794110
No, not quite. The other anon kind of did a shit job of explaining lol.

Look, a frame trap is basically a situation in which no matter what attack the opponent uses, it will not come out fast enough to avoid being stuffed.

For example: Katarina's 1,1,2 string into d/f+4.

The last hit of 1,1,2 on block is +7. After a blocked 1,1,2 you have 7 frames of frame advantage. d/f+4 comes out in 15 frames, and since you have 7 frames of frame advantage, no attack you opponent uses stands a chance of being able to beat d/f+4 in this situation.

The fastest attack your opponent can use is a 10 frame jab, but because they're -7, it will always get stuffed by the 15 frame d/f+4.

This means you'll get a nice Counter Hit if your opponent tries to swing after blocking 1,1,2 into big damage.
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>Keep getting put against boss characters in ranked

Are they ever going to patch this shit out?
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>>181795072
You're +7. The opponent doing anything is a bad idea. Except certain lows because that knee is finnicky as fuck.
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>>181795070
>You're talkin' about Katarina, ya?

yes. typically my idea of a "counter hit" is 1+1+2, or u+4 if i'm feelin ballsy (or mash 3 if i think they're sidestepping)

>>181795072

that's *tremendously* useful to know. bless u for allowing me to up my cheese game
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Can I get some ling ling tips?
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>>181795614
Abuse Rage Drive. Don't care about the rage art.
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>>181789929
I know that feel. Stay strong and keep on learning from every loss.
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>>181794243
What isn't fanon is that she has an unhealthy obsession with Asuka and is clearly stalking her.

The motive is up for debate but there are only so many options.
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>>181795286

True, but you'd be surprised how many people don't know that 1,1,2 is +7 on block loool

>bless u for allowing me to up my cheese gam
I gotchu senpai
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>playing Eddy in 2017
Seriously, unironically, kill yourself
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Any tips for playing Jin in greens?
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Gonna pick up and try to learn Ultra Rad Bad-Dad

How fucked am I? I've never played a Mishima and I've only just learned basics with Bryan.
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>>181796975
1+2
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>>181797049
I said greens my dude not silver
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>>181796998
If you play through story mode you'll get a crash course.
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>>181797172
>he thinks there's a difference
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>>181797172
Oh shit sorry man my mistake
CD4
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>>181797306
Ayy there we go
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>>181797206
I did but I don't think story assists really offer much.
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>>181796018
It's pretty clear that Lili is an innocent pampered retard that has no real experience with people. She has a mentality of a 6 year old who wants to make her first friend. Not sure how you can mistake it unless you're some person with serious empathy issues.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcayCzH076c&t=59s

How do I get the dash out after the second 1 in the first combo? Can never fucking do it because stuck in animation
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>tfw went from mashing like a retard to being afraid to press any buttons
Gonna hit that sweet spot someday h-haha
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>>181798185
So wait till the animation is done
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>get to green ranks playing like it's 2d
>suddenly everybody starts sidestepping and I eat shit
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Why is everyone afraid to get known in this thread? Isn't the point of this thread to get both knowledge and fights?
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>>181798889
Because if you get known then people call you a meme and harass you all the time.
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>>181798889
I hate attention and would rather stay anonymous
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>>181798889
Too many shit posters and too much bullying.
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>>181799064
>>181799093

then challenge them? if they don't fight, they're full of crap and anything they say gets invalidated

>>181799089
fair enough
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>>181799093
lmao
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>>181785524
shhhhh
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>>181799443
I want my money back after buying SFV. It was just the base game, but they definitely suckered me in thinking they would actually improve anything worth mentioning.
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>>181799567
I'm sorry. I almost went through the same thing but a friend stopped me from doing so. Definitely thankful for that.
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What would you describe as the fundamentals of tekken?
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>>181800028
Calling Harada a hack in /tekgen/.
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>>181800195
seriously, fuck that chink
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Is Jack the best character to learn Tekken fundamentals with at a beginner level?
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>>181800195
Fuck him. When will Tekken get someone that cares?
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>>181800568
Asuka is.
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>>181800568
Saint and JDCR both recommend Lili for beginners.
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>>181800195
Harada's a good dude though
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>>181800776
>>181800568
I picked jack anyway. He's pretty slow but has quite a few tools you definitely will want to turtle in the lower ranks more than mash.

>Abuse your elbow/jab
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>>181800776
Why lili?
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>>181800716
No, Jack is.
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>>181801393
Why do you think that?
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>>181801137
>Saint suggests Lili, JDCR agrees; Saint also suggests Kazumi later. Saulabis mentions matches with Lili where it was relatively simple, nothing flashy, but you can still get wiped if you don’t know her moves. Saint says that Lili can even be played in a slightly 2D style (for a while) and it’ll still be ok. Lili is also ok on the tier list - Saint personally thinks that Lili is a great tournament character. Brief talk about Gura (Korean Lili player).

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_IdGVs8v2mt9Tg4eEhyqPoaqR81EUo409uxXUJV5yQk/edit
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>>181779269
I have a similar question but about King, Gigas and Jack
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>tfw I enjoy every major fighting game
except KoF14 and KI
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>tfw no Lili gf to learn French with, drink tea together, or French kiss.
Is it even possible to find a 3D version of her irl?
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I think I'm done trying to sidestep for the time being. Feels like I get fucked up whenever I do it
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>>181801893
Odss are low. Odds are even lower she'll be interested in you. Best to just fantasize about Lili.
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>>181801972
stop sidestepping when you're negative.
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>>181801726
I usually try them all for a couple weeks but Tekken is the only one I ever take seriously
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>>181801893
>tfw you will never be a buff japanese tomboy getting harassed and stalked by a beautiful french debutante
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>>181801726
>only seriously enjoy GG and Tekken

I feel like I'm missing an entire world.
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>>181801503
>Lili can even be played in a slightly 2D style
>2D style
>character based around sidestepping

someone explain. that's interesting to hear, though, i might try to pick her up.
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>>181802161
If you liked GG, BB might be your thing too.
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>>181801456
It's quite simple really.

Easily superior ranged tools. Encourages new players to utilize KBD and movement to stay out of opponents range.

Better keep out tools to help new players understand spacing.

Better block punishment and great whiff punishment better allows new players to hone the way in which they capitalize on opponents mistakes

Lack of panic/get-out-of-jail moves such as Asuka's B+3 or reverasal, to encourage new player to learn how to escape pressure with backdash or smart patient defense.

And we all know that movement, space control, punishment and solid defense is the foundation of becoming a good Tekken player. Jack 7 teaches all of these better than Asuka could hope to.

On top of that he has db+1, a low unlike any asuka has which can teach basic conditioning and yomi

Better and safer offensive tools to encourage new players to learn how to effectively apply good preassure.

Based Jack-7
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>>181802241
Yeah, I think I'll give that one a try.
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>>181801627
can anyone help me out with this?
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>>181802394
theres also the fact that jack is pretty much the most honest character in the game. if you want to teach a newbie how to by pure outplaying your opponent, then get him to play jack
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Jdcr is currently streaming on ps4 and is trying out Eliza in the lab.
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Am I a shit for maining Steve?
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>>181802394
>>181802394
>Easily superior ranged tools.
Shit like that doesn't teach fundamentals though. It reaches something specific to Jack.

>get-out-of-jail moves such as Asuka's B+3
Except that is not even a get a get out of jail free card. It's very easy to punish.

Asuka is good for learning fundamentals because she has easy execution, and her game plan is pretty generic overall so that what you learn with her will be pretty applicable to other characters as well.
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>>181802973
If you have to ask? Yes. If you hadn't asked, then probably not.
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>>181802973
Nah, he's pretty cool guv
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my friend told me Gigas is just a better version of the bears. is this true?
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>Be 'good' at King in neutral
>Can't remember button combinations for chaingrabs ever

Even low rank shitters can hammer that shit out but it eludes me
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today I will learn devil jin
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>>181803612
It took my 9 year old nephew an hour in practice mode to get the screwdriver down
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>>181803612
button buffering and grinding them out in the lab goes a long way
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>>181801893
Young Charlotte Casiraghi was the closest thing.
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>>181803725
>when your 9 year old nephew is better than you
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>>181791953
top player in Japan plays panda
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>>181771974
>-14 is pretty difficult
nearly impossible to pull off, you'd need to practice vs every move
even koreans dont do it
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Today is the day that I

>learn how to wavedash
>dont get hit by laws monkey moves
>parry king
>ewgf 3 times in a row

thanks for reading
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>>181803612
Start with learning just the Reverse Stretch Bomb chain. It's the shortest of the long chains, has just a couple branching options, the inputs are pretty simple, the animations are long so you have plenty of time to input, and it has several ways to initiate the first grab.
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Today is the day when /tekgen/ doesn't complain about x character being guerilla
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>>181803612
The good ones have some sort of logic to them, just stare at them for a bit. RDC is a good example, it's literally just a roll on the buttons.
>1+3,3+4,2+4,1+2,1+2+3
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Is there a tier list for execution for Tekken 7?
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>JDCR becomes speechless at Eliza's swimsuit version

I love this dude
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>>181804289
Screwdriver is the same, except it goes the opposite direction. Giant Swing does this too, but it's single buttons instead.
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>>181804349
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>>181801726
I loved KI up until I hit a massive wall in my skills and couldn't stand it anymore. Still definitely one of the top fighters of this generation though.
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is jack truly the most honest character?
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>>181804487
I wish I could get gud as Lee.
But fuck if it isn't frustrating fighting most of the cast and watching them do 2x the damage in half the inputs.
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>>181804702
this isn't excellent
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where are nude mods, i NEED to look at Eliza's ass]/spoiler]
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>>181804702
>he can't ms cancel
lmao git gud.
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>>181804487
How hard is Heihachi compared to other Mishimas?
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>>181804487
What does skill ceiling refer to here exactly? And where does this chart come from?
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>>181803018
L0l at how you were only able to nitpick 2 of my several reasons. Shows how almighty Jack is the paragon of Tekken fundamentals and no fucker alive can properly argue against it.

>Shit like that doesn't teach fundamentals
If I start the game learning Nina, my space control is going to be far weaker than if I started the game with Jack. Nina lacks the tools Jack has to control space so a typical Nina player will have less practice and experience with spacing, thus making them not as good at it. Due to the tools each character possesses, a Jack player will more likely be more proficient in controling space while a Nina player is likely to be proficient and knowledgeable in applying effective rushdown, it's logic senpai.

>Except that is not even a get out of jail free card.
it has low crush properties and his some high crush frames too making it an excellent panic move
>very easy to punish
Simply not true. You know it, I know it and everyone knows it. Although it's -1000, the vast majority of the cast don't have a launching whiff punish with insane range like Feng that makes it too risky to become a get out of jail move. And even then it still remains hard to punish because it's common fucking knowledge that b+3 has good recocery time, meaning one needs to be playing on point or at least expecting it to get that punish.
Did I mention she has a reversal?
Did I mention she has a pleothera of other crush moves that big Jack doesn't have?

>Asuka is good for learning fundamentals because she has easy execution
So does Jack. Overall easier execution than Asuka as he has no F+2, F+3, 3~4 or WS+1+2 cancels to have to worry about learning.

>game plan is pretty generic overall
As is Jack's.

Dont get me wrong now. Asuka is good for learning fundamentals
But NOBODY in the cast is better than big Jack when it comes to honing your fundamentals.

#PraiseJack

Reminder to all you fags that if you lost to a Jack player today, you straight up got outplayed.
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Who are some characters with good offense who don't rely much on canned mixups other than Heihachi?
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>>181804674
>Literally zero gimmicks
>Only one good crush move. The rest are slow as fuck
>Very few mixups
>Only one good low
>Relies on user to outplay opponent rather than beat them with shenanigans and mixups

Fuck yeah he is

L O R D J A C K
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>>181805224
If I want to learn Jack are there any specific guides or videos you think I should dig into?
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>>181805338
Xiaoyu
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>>181805224
I never play Jack's. In fact in my 300+ matches played so far, I've yet to run into one
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Is Xiaoyu high IQ?
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>>181805617
Out of the top tiers she's more high IQ than someone like Drag or Bryan but not as high as Devil Jin
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>>181805515
watch saint
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>>181805338
>Canned mixups

Elaborate on.what the fuck this means and then I'm sure I'll be able to help you
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>>181805617
You can unga kyu and silver but she's pretty advanced if you want to git gud
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heck

the only way i can somewhat consistently do electrics is if i place my thumb on the leftmost tip of the downbutton and its wearing the fug out of it

like i literally cant make my brain just press 2 a tiny bit earlier so i have to delay the whole d-d/f process instead

dae
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>>181805617
she's got early gimmicks that can make you shitty but as you get better she grows with you and gives you more and more options.

kind of like Bryan except not for shitters
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>>181805515
Unfortunately I can't think of any.

Look out for Saint and Anakin gameplay, I believe they're the 2 greatst Jacks in the world.
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>>181805779
Strings that have built in mixups like mid low mid or high low mid, etc
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>>181805515
here's a combo i've been using

f3, 1+2 > b1 > df1, 1 > S! > ff4 (or RA)


that's all i got.
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>>181805705
>>181805954
>>181806021
thanks guys!
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So did the new patch actually decrease input delay?

How many frames are we on now?
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>>181804487
Why are four characters outside the ranking?
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>>181806292
6.8
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>>181806357
console only, this is an older chart.
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>>181806292
>So did the new patch actually decrease input delay?

No

>How many frames are we on now?
Still 7.6 lmao this game is trash
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How accurate is this?
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I play Law and Kazuya I'm looking for a 3rd character preferably a girl but more importantly with a bit of a different playstyle.

Any suggestions?
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>>181806465
Is Heihachi really lower execution compared to Bryan?
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>>181806535
Xiaoyu
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>>181806465
I don't agree ling teaches poor fundamentals. You have to space her moves or get punished
She has great sidestep and ws moves too so you learn how to do that
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>>181806438
It's actually 6.8. Not sure where you got 7.6 but it's a start.
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>>181806465
I don't know about Chloe. I think that once her memes stop working, you really need to step up your gameplay to get wins and that requires solid fundamental gameplay as well.
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>>181782573
>>181784572
I'd argue that except for a few situations you rarely need to do DSS to maximize. As long as you aren't a total noob who can only do "le flip flip watcha" memes.

But yes DSS is fairly hard to do perfectly.
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>>181806465
>lucky chloe
>that low on teaching fundamentals
lmao you know the maker of that chart doesn't know shit. On high level rank plays such as orange or red matches, you won't see lucky chloe players using gimmicks or shit. You'll only see fundamentals from them because chloe doesn't have enough good tools to use in a match. You are forced to step up your game and git gud instead of using her unsafe bullshit gimmicks that can be interrupted 85% of the time.
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>>181806465
Pretty bad son, here's the updated one
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>>181806465
What is Bryan's high execution stuff beside taunt cancels?
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>>181795072
Doesn't Yoshi have a 6frame couter?
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>>181805224
>a Jack player will more likely be more proficient in controling space
But only as Jack.

>>Except that is not even a get out of jail free card.
>it has low crush properties and his some high crush frames too making it an excellent panic move
And it is extremely easy to punish on whiff or block.

>don't have a launching whiff punish with insane range like Feng
You don't need a launch to get a good punish out of it.

>As is Jack's.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. You already said that Jack's game plan was long range space control which other characters just can't do.

>>Reminder to all you fags that if you lost to a Jack player today, you straight up got outplayed.
I agree with that, which is why I give even Jack I beat a pity revenge match.
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>>181806748
Of course you have to space her moves punished, literally every single character is the same. You whiff, you get punished no matter who you play.

Ling is literally built around beating the opponent with trickery and shenanigans. She has stances and moves that go under mids which players will be more likely to use that than actually playing defense or using movement to escape pressure.
She has mixups and gimmicks for days, which players will more likely utilize rather than playing a calculated and cautious offense.

For those reasons, Xiaoyu, like other gimmick heavy or mixup reliant characters teaches poor fundamentals.
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>>181806937
literally nothing
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>>181806369
Hmm is that good?
IIRC that's only .5 frames faster than what it used to be and a full frame slower than 6.

Although I full admit that I'm noob who can't appreciate the difference of a frame, seriously I could only notice a slight difference against GG which I'm told is like twice as fast, but couldn't notice Injustice or SF.
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>>181806937
>>181807384
Taunt b+4 into jet upper in the corner.
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>>181807451
>beside taunt cancels?
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JDCR has confirmed Eliza is not good at all. Eliza mains, please find someone else to play.
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Who is the most stylish character?
Why is it Xiaoyu?
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>>181807656
Is Akuma good?

And didn't people confirm Lucky as bad till she won a tourney?
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Are tournaments dead on PS4?
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>>181807587
You don't cancel the taunt when doing it. Cancelling taunts means pushing forward before the taunt hits the enemy. taunt, b+4, jet upper is a guaranteed unblockable free wall combo launcher in the corner without cancelling the taunt.
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Man, the rage quitting is out of control.

I've run into so many trashcan players with Warrior rank and above with inexplicable win-streaks - only to have them rage quit the second they lose.
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>>181784097
> and KBD your fat ass back home.
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>>181806465

King is moderately high execution when played properly.
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>>181808672
Take it easy.
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Is JosieCat around? Baron here. Still need to do our tournament match.
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>>181808826

I'm not really exaggerating. Legitimately half the players in my region are bonafide rage quitters.
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>>181807240
>But only as Jack
Once you gain knowledge and understanding of an aspect of the game from a single character, it can be applied to the rest of the cast, despite the fact that not every character has the tools to greatly excel in said aspect.

>And it is extremely easy to punish on whiff or block.
I've already fully explained how it's difficult to punish on block.

>You don't need a launch to get a good punish out of it
The point I was making was that you need to be able to launch her to make the risk too high for her to be able to use it as a panic move.

>You already said that Jack's game plan was long range space control
Not once did I say this. He's good at it but not once did I say it was his game plan

Either way, whatever because now I'm diverging from the main point.
My original point was that Jack 7 is better at teaching and honing fundamentals than Asuka could ever be. I gave multiple valid reasons why and you were only able to contest 2 of them. Go to sleep, think it over and come back when you can actually give a half-decent explaination as to why Jack isn't the paragon of Tekken fundamentals and how Asuka is the real fundamentals centered character. Once you do that, I'll be happy to blow you the fuck out of some more;)
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can we atleast agree that people that main King are the fucking worst?
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>>181808285
I'm not sure. Someone asked him what he thought of Eliza and that's what he said. Though he lost two matches against her afterwards so I'm not sure if he has changed his stance.

Akuma is good in the right hands but that also applies to Chloe, Gigas, and Eliza so make of that what you will.
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>>181808285
did lucky win a tournament?
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>>181785786
Her dmg output is really nice, but she is really lacking a good mixup game, since only one "combo" has a low in it (10 hit combo), and even that one is easily readable. Her sweep only launches people on CH and her moon slide is an unsafe gimmick. I still like playing her, because I only played 2d fighters before, but you really notice her deficits if you for example play Miguel. I'd say she is low-mid tier.
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Alright /tekgen/

Who's gonna make it into EVO top 8?

Who will win Tekken 7 EVO 2017?
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>>181808285
Jack is also supposed to be bad
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>>181808481
>being this autistic
just lol
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>>181809273
me
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>>181809327
for real >>181808481 you know what he meant
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MASAKA...
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>>181809101

Not really.

I don't really understand where the King hate even comes from. I suppose he's just a shitter-destroyer.
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what tournament did Lucky Chloe win?
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>>181809523
>burst

Guilty Gear character confirmed. Who has the best chance of making it in? Sol? Kye?
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>>181809523
>skeleton
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https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/882869058730811392

so sol is confirmed, right
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Is King's 1+2+3+4 grab a command grab?

What's the break for it?
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>>181809620
Sol because he has a ground fireball
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>>181809162
Yeah I can confirm this as well. I like playing her but once the opponent starts getting used to her, you have to put in a lot more work to win.
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>>181809620
I've been seeing a lot of "fire" in the image so it's definitely Sol.
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>>181809707
Sol will end up being a better Eliza. Sucks for those who main her.
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>>181809695

>Is King's 1+2+3+4 grab a command grab?

Whatever you're asking about, that isn't the right input. That's his ki charge.
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What are Miguel's frame traps? If I understand correctly, these are moves that are guaranteed if the opponent blocks a certain move?
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>>181809523
How will they implement airdash? Can't imagine it in a tekken game.
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>>181809051
>>I've already fully explained how it's difficult to punish on block.

No, you didn't, and I just told you launch punishes aren't the only punishes in the game.

You just refuse to hear anything beyond what you want to. No different than the conversation earlier: >>181771163
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Are we potentially getting Sol Badguy vs Akuma in a Tekken game?
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>>181810014
FUCKING HELL YEAH.

HEAVEN OR HELL, LET'S ROCK
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W-what did he mean by this?

GG/Blazblue character confirmed?
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>>181809863
df 4,1 wait a little bit ,1

and b2,2 from the distance
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>>181809863
Frame trap is when you apply +frames on the opponent and follow it up with a CH launcher or combo. The followup is guaranteed if the opponent tries to attack you with anything - even jab.
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>>181810350
See >>181809523

It's Sol.
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>>181810532
I do not play GG, why should these assets be exclusive to Sol and not just any GG character?
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>>181810350

Add Noel Vermillion to Tekken 7!
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>>181809523
>TK75/character/kum/
n-nani
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>>181810675
A lot of the GG characters have "gimmicks" that simply don't work in Tekken. How do you pull off Elphelt's guns and grenades, Faust's random item, Millia's hair attacks, etc in a tekken game?

The only ones that can fit are Slayer, Kye, Sol, Chipp, Baiken, etc. There are assets for fire and burns which fit Sol.
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>>181809523
>Character/Kum/
>Character/Elz/

Who is Elz? Elphelt?
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>>181810907
Well to be completely fair guns and grenades are already a thing in Tekken
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>>181810875
But I want Baiken.
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>>181810875
Fuck. And I just dropped her for Answer too. Time to pick that shit up!
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>>181811038
Eliza?
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>>181811089
Keep that lewd ninja away from me
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>>181811038
They had a balance patch for Eliza and Kuma earlier. Those aren't GG characters.
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>>181811171
Oh right. Bullet is probably her dark waves. Took that too literally. Now I'm kind of disappointed.
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>>181811089
I almost want Baiken in because the salt would be funny. As a Leifag, I can tell you it would tweak me to no end if Tekken 7 got a character that GG fans were bitching about not getting in their own game before we got Lei.
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>>181811249
How long ago was this? Akuma and Eliza are still trash.
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>>181811089
Can't steal the red hair titty monster spot from Kata
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>IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 15 MINUTES
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>>181811441
Katarina have to many arms.
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>>181809828
Huh I'll be back when I'm at home then.
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>>181811441
Just make another spot. Red haired titty monster who is obviously a prostitute, and Baiken.
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>>181809273
Hey bruv
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>everyone saying they cant get out of blues in 100 wins
>in about 24 wins
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>>181809979
>Still hasn't explained how Asuka is the best character to learn fundamentals over Jack

Blah blah blah, I'm still waiting.

But we both know you're not going to adress the original argument desu since your knowledge of the game is literally baby-level and you're genuinely scared of being blown the fuck out so badly that you're afraid to even look at he thread for 2 hours, ahaha.

>Conversation before
Oh yeah. The funniest part of that thread was when you said that someone wanting to use the lab to play as best as one can play is the true shit mentality LMAOOO
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>Can't get out of green ranks with Eliza
>JDCR doesn't think she's good
>general consensus is that she's mediocre

I knew I should've waited before picking her up. Pretty disappointed that I'll have to switch to a different character in order to improve, no matter how fun she was.
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>>181812551
This is what you get for being a wank titan and chosing to main fapbat titty vampires instead of a real nigga like Feng
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>the request to fight could not be sent

Does this mean people are dodging me?
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>>181812494
>Still hasn't explained . . .

see: >>181809979
>You just refuse to hear anything beyond what you want to.
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>>181812079
king of gigas
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>>181812715
Yup.
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There should be a doujin where MRaven "punishes" Raven for failing a mission. Except instead of a typical punishment, she decides to..."punish" him.
Like instead of reprimanding him or something, she...you know...
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>>181812634
>Eliza's boobs don't even get bigger based on her blood meter
>no custom options, just "flat semen demon with t-shirts" and "big tiddy"
Wasted potential.
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>>181813238
>Wasted potential.
Easiest way to sum up the customization as a whole.
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>>181812094
uhhh
nobody's saying that, sweetie
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>>181812551
If you still want to play a waifu character, play Lili. She has both Saint and JDCR's approval.
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>>181812871

I'm getting a lot of dodgers then.

Must be because I play King and Steve.
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>>181812794
Big man, the jack vs asuka issue came up long before any discussion about b+3, you've been ducking since the beginning looool

>YOU DIDN'T EXPLAIN!
See >>181805224 retard

I clearly stated how despite it being very minus, b3 is known to have notoriously good recovery time making it hard to react to on block
A la claudio 's hopekick

Sit down and go back to ducking arguments son
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>>181809523
If it's a GG character, it has to be one whose fanbase is autistic enough to buy another game just because he's featured in. Who could it be?
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>>181813434
yeah. people would rather dodge than learn. it makes me sad.
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>>181813315
>No good way to make Bryan look like Durga
Wasted potential indeed.
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>>181812079
>>181812824
Are UK players actually like good?

As in do are they good enough to compete with the rest of the world?

I know Starscream was a beast but im pretty unfamiliar with these newer faces
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>>181813519
It can't be any of the popular waifu characters. They're too "gimmicky" for Tekken.
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>>181813329
why did you just call anon that?
kill yourself, unless you're a MILF
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>>181813594

I mean, Ryan Hart is still around.
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>>181813450
What do you want, a WebM showing you're full of shit again?
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>/tekgen/
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Is Tekken anime now?
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>>181813519
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>>181811089
snif
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>>181813720
LMAO, won't change the fact that it's got good recovery frames making it a hard punish.
That would achieve nothing cuz its easy as fuck to punish ANYTHING in practice mode when you literally tell the CPU to do the move you asked it to

>Further ducks Jack issue
I knew I was right yes
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>>181813703
Does he even play tekken seriously anymore?
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even, go in the lab for a few hours and learn some new characters
odd, play the new yuri visual novel I bought
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>>181814496
>yuri
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>>181814359
he has been trying. playing online at least, and i don't doubt he entered at evo. i think he should go all in on tekken because he doesn't really get far in sfv's top level play anyway.
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>>181814130
>proving it is easily punishable won't prove that it is easily punishable
LOL, wut?

>it's got good recovery frames
Since when is -18 on block considered good recovery?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uqeeiuroVQ

Have some real Tekken, you poor sodomites.
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Lez get beautiful!
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>>181814915
>want to fap to some lesbians
>much of the art is hideous, wooden, pug-faced tumblr trash
My hatred for that site knows no bounds,
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>>181814809

Besides from being mechanically superior in every way, notice how the aesthetics of Tekken 3 are also different from its successors'. The animations are snappy and martial. A far cry from the cartoony puffiness of Street Juggler 7.
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>>181814715
bad block advantage does not mean it has bad recovery frames
generic running slash kicks have fuck loads of recovery and are plus on block
there is such a thing as blockstun
you actually dont know anything about anything you talk about
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Damn, Josies old RA was way cooler. Why did they change it?
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/tekgen/ tourneys are live!
US/PC:
http://challonge.com/95bscdbn
EU/PC:
http://challonge.com/kboqilts

When?
Starting 1st of July until 31st of July

Rules:
FT3
Double elimination bracket with random seeding
tourney settings (60 seconds, 3 rounds)
There must be a spectator.
Spectator must be someone who also enters the tournament
First match must be random stage.
Loser can pick character and stage.
Winner can't switch character.
item moves allowed
You have 3 days to complete your match.
Everyone can play their matches until top 8.
Report matches on discord or /tekgen/ thread.
Top 8 will be streamed by me.
5 EUR steam card for winners
PS4 will be in August.

Reminder that you need to play your matches.
JosieCat , did you play your match with baron yet? or was he the dodger?
Jawbz is going to losers, Apoleon will pass to round two, you can play your match with sungarassu
ZetaZaku did you play your match with tits mcghehey?
Kibernetik will play his match with John today.

Lastly, I'm going to start signups for PS4 tourneys next week.
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>>181815295
>thumbnail

or is it just kid kazuya
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>>181815384
This is da powah of da sweepy doodle.
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>>181815235
>pug-faced tumblr trash

Got you covered buddy
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>>181815285
It was a ripoff from SCV
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>>181815436
I still like it.
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>>181815436
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>>181815295
Waiting for tits McGhey on discord, so message me there if you want to develop some secret discord techs.
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>>181815483
Nah, she's not a bad artist. Too bad about the man faces sometimes.
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>>181815605
>sometimes
All the time. Why can't any of those legbeards draw a fucking nose properly anyways?
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Mods asleep post lesbians?
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>>181815759
Hey, her man faces look good on men.
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>>181815264
So I shouldn't be able to block it then punish it in a WebM if I set them to guard after doing it in practice mode, right?
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>>181786807
>Alex
trash
>Mokujin
press random
>Julia
trash
>Anna
Nina
>P. Jack
Jack-7
>Armor King
King
>Bruce
Josie
>Forrest
Marshall
>Kunimitsu
Yoshimitsu
>Lei
;_;
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>>181815957
And it's fucking useless on women. Stop posting that garbage, you've already killed my hard on.
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>>181816052
Let me help you with that anon
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>>181815957
She should just draw men desu, there are probably lots of degenerates who would pay for gay Miguel porn
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>>181816249
Now we're talking.
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Asuka a cyka
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>>181815984
Armor King and King play completely different desu
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>>181816249
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>>181816331
Sweet Jesus
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>>181816369
Characters aren't functions
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So this is gay or straight?
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Is there even a point to playing a mishima if youre probably never going to master electrics
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>>181816660
Most people don't.
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>>181815235
>want to fap to some lesbians
now thats your first mistake. you dont fap to the purest form of love like a savage animal. you're supposed to just sit there and admire it.
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>>181815982
what does this have to do with recovery
besides she can always use b+3,2 and feint and all that
either way punishing in training mode doesnt say much i mean i can -13 punish claudio hopkick every time in training mode but in real matches its harder unless you have that exact read and are completely ready for it
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>>181784097
>Tanukana broke up with her fiance to play Tekken
She is based
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>>181816813
What's wrong with squirting some extra admirers on my stomach?
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>>181816660
Absolutely, they have some of the best punishment tools in the game, wavedash mixups, and will always be good (and available) in every Tekken.
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>>181816582
It's a shit
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>>181816853
As a proud cuck, I do not enjoy yuri unless one of the girls is clearly dominant, sadistic and/or has a huge penis
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>>181816582
Anything involving Lili is gay.
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I've been playing MIshimas with varying success for a little bit now, but when should I start to properly learn EWGF? I'm admittedly pretty god awful at the game so I'm not sure if it's something I should be bothering with yet
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>>181816853
I ain't readin' all that shit nigga
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>>181817145
now. EWGF is 100% essential to all Mishimas
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>>181817120
Even when she gets kidnapped and mind broken by cock?
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>>181817330
it's not desu
watch qudans play devil jin, he hardly ever even uses it
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>>181817282
I SAID STOP
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>>181816871
So we're right back to the excuses, eh?

Look, either it is easy to punish or it's not. Practice mode has nothing to do with it.
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Is this general interesting fics? What kind of tekken-related scenario would you guys like to see?

Nothing lewd please.
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>>181817497
interested in*
typo
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>>181817450
what excuses
its called context which is always important to consider
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>>181817497
The Mishimas fisting each other's wieners.
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>>181805929
I can do electrics easier on the right side. You might have more success that way too.
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>>181817497
I'm interested in a fic where I marry Eliza.
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>>181782439
>I have never made a secret of being new to Tekken
Yet despite this, you've got it in your head that you are some kind of authority in these threads, to the point you think you own them, trying to make your own (worse) version of the OP and autistically screeching when no one uses it.
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>>181817931
what do you like about Eliza as a person?
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>>181817408
As long it is Asuka's feminine cock
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>Nina doesn't have an Irish accent

Now this is a wasted opportunity if I've ever seen one.
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>>181817698
In this case, it it completely irrelevant. It would be like saying Asuka's 3~4 is a good panic move because idiots can't block low, despite it being -26 on block.

The entire reason you see what does what in practice mode is so you can train yourself to react to or otherwise apply something in a real match. You fucking up doesn't change the properties of the move itself.
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>>181818028
I never claimed to be an authority. I let my arguments stand for themselves.
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mfw im considering changing from jin to chloe, shes just too much fun man
>>
THREE
YEARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQlEj_Tfpk
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>>181784179
>go check his age
>27
>check Lee's age
>48
Just give us another timeskip and kill some characters, Harada.
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>>181818282
Yea she looks awesome. Seeing people doing "one, two" and her breakdance move is pretty nice. Also dabooo.
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>>181789201
I miss using Drag/AK
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>>181817497
Nina being forced to fuck the mafia boss after their faux wedding
Kuma raping Josie and Josie learning to love it
Lili and Asuka falling in love and having gay sex
Lee investigating Alisa's compartments
Chloe sleeping her way to the top as an idol
Claudio molesting sleeping Xiaoyu
Eliza partaking in an orgy to refill her succ powers
Kid Kazumi being impregnated by late-teens Heihachi
Katarina being ravaged by Gigas' giga dick
Leo being consensually raped by Yoshi's tentacles
Master Raven interrogating Drag
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This is Tekken.

https://twitter.com/CommanderLovely/status/882921859347611649
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>>181818082
exactly
and we established being -18 on block doesnt indicate that the move has bad recovery given that generic running slash kicks are very plus on block and have huge recovery at the same time
context is relevant in any argument and especially in fighting games
i agree that is the point of practice mode but you see literally every single god tier player fuck up this kind of stuff in matches
the thing is you just havent made any argument that the move has bad recovery besides lol -18 on block which i already provided a counterexample for
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reminder
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>>181818630
I already told you I am happy to prove it with a WebM too.
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>>181818041
Her sense of style
Smugness in regards to so called "exorcists"
Cute while sleeping/yawning
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>>181818758
what is it going to prove
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>>181813807
Tekken was anime since 6
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>>181818664
B-But Leo's Tekken 6 jacket is cool.
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>>181818516
Why would you type any of this?
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>>181818882
Those are the scenarios I want to see.
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>>181818947
You want to see a kid get impregnated?
>>
Unlocking the endings was one of the highlights of arcade mode, so much better than the scenario mode chapters, decent character endings when
>>
Why does Kazumi feel like such a dumbed down Mishima? Her dumbass fly is so much worse than a normal crouch dash. I know she isn't supposed to be Just Another Mishima, but she seems to have half the tools and the rest are just tiger attacks. I just don't get it, I want to enjoy my grandma but she's so lackluster.
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>>181818516
Do not lewd my wife with your impure requests
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>>181819068
She died too soon, didn't get to learn more
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>>181818947
That makes me sad to know. I hope something helps you change as a person.
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>>181819068
At least your character is good and viable. Try maining Eliza or Chloe knowing they're not good at all.

t.Sad Eliza main
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>>181816582
It depends whether Harada identifies Leo as a male or female at the time.
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Speedkicks is an amazing streamer: educational, explains what he is doing while playing, answers everyone's questions, well spoken and godlike game play.
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>>181819068

just kill me
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>>181819396
KEEP IT DOWN OVER THERE!
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>>181819396
he labs stuff and situations kind of like jdcr on stream, but it's way easier to follow because he speaks english.
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>>181819460
That part is fine, the dash up and bf2,1,1+2 is the hard part for me.
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>>181819096
Sorry, which one is it?
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>>181818836
>what is it going to prove
I shouldn't need to spoon feed you this, but it would prove the opposite of this:

>>181818630
>the thing is you just havent made any argument that the move has bad recovery besides lol -18 on block

The same way this, >>181771163, proved my point in the last argument.
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>>181819610
but it doesnt
i can punish it too i dont need a random autist to do it but thats not refuting my counterexample when it comes to the moves recovery
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>>181819607
I know your methods. You won't get me to reveal her so you can continue your lewd fantasies.
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>>181819756
>i can punish it too
Then we're in agreement, and I win again. If you can punish it then it is not a get out of jail free card.
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>>181819557
I want Shin Kazumi to step on me
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>wake up
>thread from 12 hours ago is still here

so do you Euros just not play Tekken?
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>>181820174

its 13:54

also spamming the thread is not my concern when I'm playing tekken
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>>181820174
Americlaps don't actually play tekken they just shitpost which makes the thread seem lively
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>>181820174
I've been playing since I woke up
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>>181819396
This. Actually entertaining to watch
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Why is doing while standing attacks on wavedashers so weird? Some attacks like WS4 and WS3 come out with no problem but WS2 or WS1 on Kazuya never comes out, instead you get electric or dp. Heihachi gets his WS1 fine but not his WS2. I can't do anything out of wavedash with Devil Jin besides his sweep and electric. What's the notation to do while standing attacks out of wavedash?
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>>181818075
>YOU'LL DO NUTTIN!
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>>181820174
Normal people are at work, after 17:00 that one Euro PC shitposter will come home and shit up the thread like always
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Did the update on PC completely fuck the game up for anyone else? It takes about 5-7 minutes to start up (if it even decides to, sometimes it takes multiple attempts), then it takes 5+ minutes to load into a match for the first time so I need to go into training mode before I can do anything else. Even then, some stages like Souq and Forgotten Realm take a really long time to load and there's constant dropped frames on any settings, usually on CH. G Corp Helipad is really bad, and (night) is straight up unplayable.

It also locks up the rest of my computer during loading and in-match, even though it's hardly using any resources. None of the in-game issues are present when spectating a match, either, only when I'm playing.
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>>181806465
Put shaheen in the top left corner
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>Devil Jin wins 6 matches in a row
>loses one
>immediately leaves
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>>181821184
Guilty

Once you win you have figured me out and there's no point anymore
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>>181820053
who cares if its a get out of jail free card im talking about recovery and only recovery
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>Heihachi preparing to throw Jin off a cliff
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>>181820053
>and I win again

Yeah dude, you "win".
>>
Game feels a little more snappy and responsive on PS4. Did they fix the input delay in the 1.03 patch or is that in the next patch?
>>
>4 players in tournament lobby
>Kyu player says "just start"

lol no
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>>181806934
I don't get this
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>Low Tier God plays my character

NO
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>>181822172
Yeah, it's a little better, not much tho
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Why don't you main devil jin yet?
He is the best character you know.
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>>181822479
I definitely notice it. I hope they get it back down to TTT2 levels though.
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>>181822489
but i know a better character, so how can he be the best?
>>
So when is the best time to use a hopkick? I can't seem to remember to use them in matches and when I do they're always blocked. Is it when I'm expecting a low? Or when I'm only slightly negative?
>>
HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT XIAOYU WITH JIN
ALL MY BEST BUTTONS WHIFF

FUCK THIS FUCKING CHINK SLUT
>>
>>181822758
When you expect them to crouch or spam lows.
For example, I often use hopkick if the enemy decides to duck my jabs.
>>
>>181822758
Condition people to block low. A basic way is to spam a couple of quick mid jabs/pokes, then a low. When you notice people blocking them, hella hopkick their ass.
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>>181822815
Unzip pants and she will go on her knees automatically, Xiaoyu wants that devil dick
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>>181819557

Do you have a high quality version of this from the game? I had to capture it off a video because the ones online are piss poor.
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what's the deal with Alisa's destroyer mode? I don't get it, what purpose does it serve? when would I want to be in DES or not in DES? it goes away on hit and block so does that I mean I want to stay in it as long as possible?
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Is Jin good for a beginner to learn?
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>>181808840
fucking
Yes Baron, JosieCat here. I'll be around this evening, in about 8 hours. Can you join discord?
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>>181822815
maybe do more lows. does b+2 whiff on aop?
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How the fuck do you beat this thrice-damned cocksucking, input-reading, health-regenerating, block-piercing, non-interruptible cutscene-having, teleporting behind you, fireball spamming literal fucking nigger?
>>
>>181823235
He's Japanese though
>>
>>181823006
yes if you want to learn tekken
no if you want to win

all the mishimas are strong but you have to play the purest form of tekken with them
>>
>>181823396
Jin isn't a Mishima though
>>
>>181823006
He's easy to learn the basics of but weak in the hands of a beginner. His versatility and strengths shine in the hands of an advanced player. His general framedata is pretty shit and relies on stancecancelling and really good movement to be a threat. You can do better for a beginner character.
>>
>>181823235
do not call your lord a nigger
he's just a chink whose skin darkened due to evil powers and shit
>>
>>181823396
Not him but who is the best Mishima for learning Tekken? I don't really care about losing since I'll probably lose anyway
>>
>>181823509
kaz
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>>181823509
Heihachi
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>single elimination tournament
>playing against Hwoarang
>all he does is literally the same kick over and over
>all I do is block and throw
>win
>he immediately leaves and the tournament ends

great
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TEKKEN BOWLLLLLL!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqX0KBqxNY8
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Is asuka good to learn tekken in general?
She seems slow when i play.
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>>181822441
who does he play
>>
>>181823235
Use story assist, sidestep and spam ewgf
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>>181823782
The apple-waster
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>>181823772
I'm actually happy for this since I loved Tekken Bowl back in Tag 1, however I hope it comes with a new DLC character or something actually relevant.
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>>181823772
Just show the DLC costumes
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>>181823772
Nobody will buy this unless the rewards are really good. Tag1 was cool and all but I mean, I'm probably not going to buy it.
I'm guessing this comes with the season pass
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>>181824134
>I'm guessing this comes with the season pass
Obviously
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>>181823772
ty based harada
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>>181823772
How much?
>>
If Kiryu and Rugal are somehow both guest characters, I will do something crazy
I don't know what it is yet, but I'll do something fucking crazy and post it here
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>>181823772
Wasn't it supposed to be brand new or something? Fuck you Harada I'm going to get it regardless
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Hello anyone want to ft10 against me? On PS4 NA. Maybe in about an hour
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>>181822274
Some anon complained about unga bunga characters and another anon gave each of those tier proper explanation. Which makes sense.
>>
>>181825054
he was just a buttblasted Akuma 17er
>>
Reminder to not use a tripfag thread.
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Who is the best beginner character to use and learn the game with? I currently use Gigas
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>>181823772
going to wait to see the price of this dlc to see if I'll buy the season pass

pls no jew me
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I thought dodge all King players was just a /tekgen/ meme

I was wrong ;_; t. King player
>>
>>181825813
Leo
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>speedkicks Genbu ranked sets rank match to any
>gets matched up with a 7th Kyu
HARADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>181825912
>search for any ranks
>get "any" rank
Wow!
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>>181825909
so far every leo player I met had literally 0 defense because xir is so potent on the offense that they never have to learn to be defensive
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>>181824519
don't ever play and post again
>>
new thread

>>181825985
>>181825985
>>181825985
>>181825985
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>>181772132
Crusader helm, silver and dark plates. Massive mace/sword on back
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>>181774261
Sure thing anon, let's g-
>drunk
DUDE

ALCOHOL

LMAO
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>>181817443
The arts pretty good there though fag.
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