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You can buy a Seer's Globe for 5000 vials (1 time only)
You can also buy extra Seer's Globes, once per month (30000 vials each)

NEW EXPANSION: WONDERLAND DREAMS
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/wonderlanddreams/
OFFICIAL SITE IS UP

NEW GRAND MASTER RANK
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0124

NERFS ARE UP
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance?announce_id=295
>The Shadowcraft follower Shadow Reaper will cost 3 instead of 2.
>The bronze Neutral amulet Test of Strength will now have the effect "Countdown (2) All followers that come into play gain Ward until this amulet leaves play." This will replace the current effect, "Leaders cannot be attacked if there is a follower that can be attacked in their area."

All cards info (so far):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UCa5IN0zZVWRTmZGcSjWpykIi1QR8j-c60fqE9qFb-Q/edit?usp=sharing

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Tool for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Useful Links: https://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

NEW IMAGE PACK
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Old >>181432992
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75
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kill kmr
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>>181452676
get rekt son
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>tfw struggling to climb
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fourth for discord
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whats the least anime class?
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gee it sure is boring around here

i just wonder how gobby's feeling
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PRAISE GARUDA
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what the fuck should I tech in now?
t. dragon
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Best(cutest) standard leggo reporting in. How can anyone even compete with Fortes longevity?
Protip they can't.
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>>181452870
shadow
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Why are all netdecks in gookchinamanese nowadays? Do western content creators even care anymore?
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>>181452870
Dragon
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>>181452870
Blood? western vampires are the thing
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golly it's chilly here
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>>181452660

I know it's for face damage, it's still too slow. It costs 4pp, is terrible on curve and you have new levi for late game face burn now. It's bad for removal which is why it's bad for the deck. Play golem instead.
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>>181452870
blood
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Dude check out this sick play. Had to think super long to figure it out!
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>>181453015
Please, discord, go away.
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>>181452949
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>>181452949
>nowadays
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>>181452964
>>181452993
ツンデレじゃないんだから!
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>Game is over on turn 6 because you have 8 HP
How the fuck is this balanced?
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> just mutagenic bro
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It's only the first week and neutral blood already boasts better numbers than midshadow ever reached at any point.

Either cygames' "mtg pros" are hilariously bad at testing and balancing or they just cynically enforce whatever meta they want. Pick your poison.
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>>181453015
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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thanks shorte
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>>181452949
Because western "content creators" are all trannies and erpfags that only care about their internet popularity. They are too busy faking being a girl and trying to impress reddit to bother.
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>>181452942
cant remember the last time ive even seen a forte

her being in a dead class isn't really helping her longevity
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>>181452982
I'm the one that said it shouldn't be there just to get that out of the way first. The reason they use it isn't because it goes well with Oz as she'll turn it into a 1pp. Ideally you won't be using it as a 4pp card.
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>>181453157
>It's only the first week and neutral blood already boasts better numbers than midshadow ever reached at any point.
No and dragon was better anyway
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>>181453065

Discord is shit though.
It's a chinese data farm. Why would I ever use that trash?

But seriously check out this sick play. This is some serious MLG pro shit right here.
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>>181453135
>mutagenicing that low in the first place
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>>181452807
>tfw climbing really slowly and not being able to come up with a way to improve the deck without killing it's identity.
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>>181453237

it was either that or get raped by 2 tin men and garuda cock
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>>181453135
>/svg/ is single handedly dropping the win rate of a really good deck
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76937
Concede pls
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>>181453219
>MLG pro
oh yeah i meant reddit, sorry
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Wow sick combo Forte, almost got me :^)
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>>181453213
>dragon was better
t. shadownigger
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>>181453213
>No
Yes
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>>181453338
>really good deck
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>>181453356
>still saying this
ISHYGDDT
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>>181453198

It's still a bad option compared to other cards. It doesn't belong in dirt rune in this expac. There are better, more useful spells to combo with Oz.
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> just trick bro
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Spawn has finally made me uninstall the game. The single fact that someone approved of this card is evidence things only will get worse from here.
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>>181453340
>le reddit faic

Haha, and I bet you think I play video games for fun, too.
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>>181453432
Please die
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>>181453213
>It's only the first week and we already have shills in denial
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>>181453339
Thanks Forte
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>>181453565
Make me.
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>>181452870
>play anime game while being bothered by anime
Do you ever listen to yourself?
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can I get a concede please?

72713
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Goblin is really popular among the girls nowadays
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>>181453507
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How many scarlets and knuckles should I run in Cblood? I'm doing 2 of each for now.
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Post a ctulhu deck please, its been 3 days of expansion and i didn't played a game yet, i NEED NETDECK TO PLAY THIS GAME, PLS HELP
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>>181452949
There are no western content creators.
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>>181453706
kill yourself you lazy piece of shit
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Let's see how this "plays out"
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>>181453425
Only because it counters Spawn really hard and everyone and their mother is playing Spawnblood.
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>>181453747
And there will never be. This expansion proves this game is a joke.
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>>181453670
thanks arisa
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Can someone post that one dark alice + ToS deck with satan? I want to have fun.
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>>181453770
You can't expect people to put more that much time into this game when Duel Links or Hearthstone exist man.
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>>181453635
who said i was bothered?

i was just curious
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>>181453789
So does Khawy but I seem to the only one playing Nepthighs atm
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>>181453776
Mhh quite the unexpected result
I should try to get that opening hand more often
>tfw the mirror is the worst match up
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Golem shift is fun as fuck, get fucked havenfag
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Thoughts?
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>>181453913
it's not that hard to find a abyss deck though
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>baller character design
>bad-ass voice actor
>probably the only decent character in the game's really generic story
Why do so many people prefer to play a little girl that squeaks like a goddamn chew toy?
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can this game be played on a toaster?
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>start of the day
>1000 master points
>3 hours later
>1050 master points
How the fuck do you play neutral blood properly? I feel like I'm missing something. Maybe my mulligans are shit.
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>>181453686
>THREE mutagenic bolts
>AND professor of taboos
>What can possibly go wrong :^)
Dude what are you doing
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>>181453990
>AA
Everything works down there
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>>181453706
>being too lazy to make your own deck at the start of an expansion.
>being too lazy to look up a deck
Where's the fun in playing a card game if you are going to ignore most of the cards and go for the top deck all the time? It's like playing a Metroidvania with a fucking guide 24/7, sure you are playing the game, but you are missing out on a fun part of the game.
I get that people like winning, but shit man, at least try to exit your comfort zone every once in a while.
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>>181453581
delete
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>>181454032
It's a mobile game so yeah
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>>181454032
yes
it's a phone game
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>>181454018
Because of their discord ERP partner.
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>>181454018
Because little girls has delicious pussy and body while a old man is disgusting?

Its pretty fucking easy to choose.
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>>181453948
There's actually an anti-spawn aegis deck I've run into a few times. That shit's actually pretty rough.
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>>181454032
Yes this is a mobile card game.
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What's safe to vial?
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>>181453457
I agree it's bad to run it but I do get why they might want to try it. Part of me wants to dick around with Oz and Twin Guardians as a c6 play.
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>>181453948
post dick
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>>181454050
>play tove
>play goblin leader
>play alice
>bapho enhance
>abyss
>????
>profit
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>>181454085
>waste my vials with shit that is probably never gonna be used
>have 0 vials
>never win again

No, i rather wait 2 weeks or more to net deck a consistent T0~1 deck and NEVER EVER looking at other cards.
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>>181453338
What did you expect? Most people here can't play any kind of deck that may not follow curve.
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::critical thinking intensifying::
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Should I open 50 more WD packs just for big vials from the nerfs this week?
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>>181454137
Yeah I meet that every now and then
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>>181454014
True. I just modified my cblood deck a bit to make mine but remember some people haven't touched this game since ToG.

The lack of interest in the community to build sites and guides is kinda disturbing, actually. Even sub 300 active players DGCs I've played tend to have frequent updates on this stuff. Then again, it's clear Cygames doesn't care about the western audience that much and it's just their secondary market.
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>>181454139
>2k 4MB screenshot and quality still as shit as my luck

KILL YOURSELF
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>>181454018
Urias has a hard life
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>>181454139
All forest and shadow cards. Sword too.
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>>181454139
Vanilla Jeanne
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>>181453948
>lvl 84
Kill yourself.
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>>181454468
That deck isn't good anymore
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Once you hit Grand Master you can still lose Masters points... so this is not like another rank right? Is just the emblem and the flair
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>Fanfare: Put a random Bloodcraft follower with at least 5 attack from your deck into your hand.

>Enhance (5): Then subtract 3 from its cost and opponent concedes game if below 8 HP
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>>181454468
>LMAO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO WIN LOSER
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>>181453515

I'm sitting out till the end of the month, personally. Most likely I'll be dropping the game for good. TotG followed by this is no coincidence and I simply don't enjoy playing Shadowverse anymore.
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>>181454426
I hate big images as well. They take too much space on my hard drive.
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>>181454209
I get that, but should I be hard mulliganning for baph?
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>>181454468
Blood dailies can only level you that much
I mainly played dragon up to now, but it's just unplayable in this meta
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>>181454468
>level matters

Kid, please stop.
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>>181454427
Hard lives mold strong men.
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>>181454284
I won't judge you for being a netdecker, but I'm judging you for not knowing how to get netdecks. One of these days I'm just going to compile a bunch of trap decks that look decent so I can post them every time someone asks for a list.
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>>181454554
xd you're so fun and quirky
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>>181454637
Thank you!
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Please Concede
36552
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>>181454601
Bandwagoner please kill yourself
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>>181454554
Are you actually retarded?

The quality of his picture is fucking awful for a 4MB.
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>>181454678
But I was probably the first person to get every craft to 100. I've had every craft at 100 before the game was even out for a week. Level really doesn't matter.
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>>181454713
I don't understand. I am not contradicting you :(
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>>181454678
Blame cygames for enforcing their cancer this fucking hard.
What do you want people to do, not play the fucking deck with 60% winrate with no unfavorable matchups?
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>>181454631
I fell for a bait deck in TotG, wasted 20k vials and the deck didn't had a single TotG card, kek.
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>>181453515
there are cards in the game that can counter the game
simply winning on board counters it
use your brain faggot
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Is there a better feeling? I won like 3 turns ago but I'm having a lot of fun torturing this lunapedo
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>>181454898
>simply winning on board counters it
Why are you playing against retards that skip the first 4 turns?
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>>181453515
They had to make something strong for blood as it was their time to shine as a tier 1 craft again since everyone else has had super broken shit already. Elf will be broken again in 3 months.
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>>181454948
I there's anything worse than Lunapedos it's Dshift desu
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>>181454948
>lunapedo

Disgusting.
Luna is fucking old, Elf child May, vampy and Squasher are the only acceptable hot girls in this game.

Fucking retards, luna is a fucking old tit monster, she is probably on hers 12~14yo.
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>>181455069
ancient alchemist + golem assaults are too fun to pass up
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I'm really not digging this "go neutral or get fucked" expansion.
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>spawn beats aggro neutral sword
>spawn beats most control decks
Shadowbabs will defend this.
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>>181454468
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>>181455219
Nigger it's "go neutral or go anti-neutral or get fucked".

Yeah this expansion fucking sucks.
Nerfs can't come soon enough.
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>>181455250
Just mutagenic bro, just winter's caprice it bro :^)
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>>181454139
To be honest you have some decent legos
Just right now the only legos that matter are spawn, Alice and maaaaybe Lion.
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So, i got an animated abomination from my free packs, is it safe to liquify or nah?
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>>181454468
Does anyone else find it interesting how the immediate response of /svg/ towards anything that triggers it is "kill yourself"?
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>>181454898
>play Spawn on 6
>use single target removal to get rid of a ward/evolve Spawn and then Revelation to get rid of tiny walls
>donk opponent for 12/18 damage.
Also, good luck having a board against shit like Knuckle, not saying Spawn decks are broken (they probably are atm, someone might come up with a good counter), but shit feels really unfair when you get decimated for not having a couple of wards after having to deal with Blood's early game.
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>>181454595
Ya.
Dragon is back to only being master of memes.
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>>181455353
>>181455219
AT least you just need one set of cards to play.
Even if they launched a 800 cards expansion my vials would not even be hit
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>>181455353
More like go neutral blood or anti abyss or get fucked. Other neutral decks are shit. See Forest, 44% fucking winrate.

At least the nerf is coming in less than 30 before the end of July.
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>>181455439
>liquefying anything before a month
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>>181455458
>not saying Spawn decks are broken
lol
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>>181455439
no
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Wow, Swordniggers are the scum of the earth
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>>181455017
Blood was already Tier 1 last expansion, now it's Tier 0
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>>181455517
NO
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>nigger gobu!
ayy lmao I thought it was a meme now I regret being a dubcuk
what does it really say tho
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>>181455439
I'd keep it. It's definitely no good in the current meta and no list is going to fix that, but it might be good after nerfs or with future expansion support. The only legends I'd strictly write off are Fairy Dragon and Wyrm.
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They will surely reprint blast r-right my friends?
I have to protect my family from gigantic abominations from the abyss
Think of my daughter cygames
You can surely help me out here
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>>181455645
>pika pika
>pika gobbu pika pik
Something like that.
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>>181455353
>>181455517
You guys are aware they only said they would do montly ANNOUNCEMENTS right? Nerfs aren't guaranteed.
They'll probably just say they need to collect more data and wait for counters to appear before touching anything.
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>>181454948
>MOOOOOOOOOM I BEAT A TIER 3 CLASS
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>go first
>win
What a great expansion. I've always wanted control blood to be viable. This is really fun and interactive.
I'll be honest, baphomet should just get the lightning blast treatment. Spawn is already a good card at 8.
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>>181455603
>playing Dragon
>calling others scum

How's that sub 30% win rate treating you now, you fuck? Not liking the game anymore now that people can deal with your broke ass shit that oppressed an entire meta for 3 months?
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>>181455698
>Dragon had a counter for Abyss
>It got nerfed

Can't make this shit up.
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How does my control spawn deck look /svg/?
Doing pretty well with it in AA
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>>181455742
It's guaranteed when a deck is at 58% winrate total and 64% winrate going 1st. They nerfed Shadow 2 times in a row because Shadow is still too strong. I don't see them not doing the same for Spawn.
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>>181455803
t. shadownigger mad that another deck beat him sometimes
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>>181455458
>play 4/3 evo on turn 5
>pass turn 6
fuck off you c0 shitter
>>181455005
play aggressive or midrange decks you dumb faggot
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Please, why is BKB a thing? What the fuck are you doing Cygames?
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>>181455645
I want Gobu to mumble at me in Japanese
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>>181455467
>9 hp

Would be a shame if he played reduced spawn into any of bloods 2pp damage causing cards (wolf, razor, etc)
Or a regular spawn into any of blood's 1pp damage causing cards

Or just triple razory, triple wolf, wolf + double razory, etc etc

I'm honestly curious if you won this. There are so many lethal options.
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>>181455868
They still waited two months for the first "nerf"
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Ok abyss is pretty strong but why Yurius is safe after 6months of overstattedoom 2pp 1 3 ?
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>>181453948
>WOW GO FIRST IN MIRROR WITH PERFECT NEUTRAL CURVE HOW COULD I WIN OMG IM PROBABLY GOOD LMAO
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>>181455853
>Dire Bond

Are we suddenly back in standard?
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>>181455853
Jankiest control deck I've ever seen. Drop Limil, Yurius, Belphegor. Add a third BKB, kiss, and grimnir.
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>Heavenly Aegis Vs Spawn of the Abyss meta

Very good. Which side are you /svg/ ? Good or evil?
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>>181454592
depends on matchup, usually you are fine without but mirror and dragon generally want it asap.
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>>181455909
Will playing aggressive or midrange decks magically stop them from playing tove and knuckle chad?
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>tfw you decided to skip this shitty expansion because you could immediately tell it was going to be cancer
Feels good not having to deal with Neutralshit and Bloodniggers.
Sucks to be you, /svg/.
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>>181453948
>netdecker mom posting
just off yourself you fuckface
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>>181455868
"We have been hearing a lot of complaints about tutoring interactions with Spawn of the Abyss. After much consideration, we have decided to nerf the new tutor card Bandersnatch"
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Im hungry for vials. Which of these cards are safe to liquefy?

>Aurelia
>Abomination
>Queen Vampire
>Snek
>Golem Assault
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>>181456103
Fuck them both
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Do these obviously retarded cards like Alice, BKB, Spawn, etc get made due to incompetence or greed?

I really can't tell if these cards are created because the people behind it are too dumb to playtest these things or because Cygames just wants Hirohito's Yen.
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>>181455780
So would you prefer Baph to get nerfed like lightning blast (lose enhance) or Gobu (increase pull pool)

I really hope its increasing the pull pool to be honest. Baph's enhance is a fun enabler for memes, its just spawn is far too powerful for it.
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>>181455982
That's because of the precedent they set for their previous nerfing schedule. It's why people were up in arms about the monthly update/nerf schdule because previously it was 2.5 months of suffering the same decks over and over again before they threw some """""nerfs""""" to tone down the T1 decks.
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>"what do you take out of midrange sword to create a good neutral aggro sword deck? ahah you're not gonna play veteran lancers? It's just not possible"
where the fuck are you now you fucking idiot?
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>>181456203
I want it to lose the enhance. I want my hipster class back.
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>>181456193
Nobody at cygames thought of playing baphomet into spawn please understand :^(
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>>181456156
Queen hasn't really been relevant for a while (bats in general really)
And games don't go long enough for sneks to be effective anymore.
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>>181456076
Limil and Belph are life savers sometimes
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>>181456156
Golem assault, snek, queen vampire probably. Abomination can be used in burn rune and it's decent, Aurelia is just a good card in a really bad deck.
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>>181456128
this is called perfect curve or highroll
you need to have answers for that, depends on the deck
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>>181455970
Yes I won.
he used spawn and evoed it to bring me to 1 hp.
The deck is fun as hell to play when the game decides to not be asshole and actually draw the cards needed.
To bad the game decides that I never should draw 1 of the cards I need for the combo even if I run 2 of all the leggos and 3 rites + 2 tutors there is always 1 missing even when drawing cards like mad.
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>>181456203
Make enhance pull 2 cards but not reduce the cost.
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>>181455780
If you do that, you kill the serpent meme entirely
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>>181456129
>the opinion of someone not playing
good one
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>>181456364
>Playing BKB on turn 4 is "highrolling"
Stop posting you dumb faggot
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>>181456336
>hey what about this abyss legendary
>looks pretty memey to me, no need to test it
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>>181456203
Increase the Enhance to 6 or make Enhance dependent on Vengeance so that it allows for synergy with Snek Memes.
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>>181456193
It's because they intentionally make certain crafts overpowered every new expansion. They even said it themselves.
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What deck can keep up with both neutralshit and blood spawn
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>>181456539
>They literally called it a "memey" card
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>>181456359
You're not supposed to use Belph in control though. But yeah I used limil in RoB and it wasn't too bad, the only bad part was that it was a brick most of the time, you can keep it as a 1-of I guess.
>>181456496
That deck has always been shit though. Never worked against anything that wasn't sword. Even forest would just roach you while you tried to set it up. I'm fine with losing the snek and azazel meme, I just want my craft to stop being cancer.
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>>181456527
>tove and knuckle on curve
>"u-uh that's not highroll!"
off yourself immediately
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Jesus fuck I'm only at 1000 Master score I don't like this meta aaaaaaaaaahhhhh
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>>181456695
Oz with the right deck.
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>>181456708
>KMR was play testing abyss
>he approved this shit
Can't make this up.
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>>181456193
It's a combination of them being greedy and trying to force quick games because muh mobile gaming, just look at shit like Sybil. Grimmnir or Alice, all of them have great stats for the cost and a powerful effect on top of that, just take a look at Forest right now, their shitty fairies can't handle the constant flood of buffed Neutral cards, the powercreep in this game has become pretty obvious and I think things will get way worse on the next expansion if they continue with this "X class is now the best for 3 months, fuck yourselves" philosophy.

It's either that, or the "MTG pros" they have are fucking insane memelords that enjoy watching us suffering.
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>crafted 2 Alice this morning to complete a play set
>pull this today
Oh well, 1k vials.
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>>181456708
>what only 16 damage face on turn 7? Why would anyone play this haha there are like 5 cards that counter this haha what a meme
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>>181456695
None.
Say hello to Shadowverse's first tier 0 deck.
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>>181453686

>Taboo clears the field
>Master Levi clears the field
>Mutagenic Bolt clears the field

You kinda suck at this don't you.
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>>181456889
>KMR literally telling everyone to play blood for this expansions release

Gee, I wonder.
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>>181456856
Just play memes until nerfs.
The grind to GM is just a chore right now that I stopped caring.
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>>181453187
man, you sure have a thing about trannies
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>>181456853
HAHA MY OPPONENT DIDN'T SKIP TURN 4 WHAT A HIGHROLLING LUCKSHITTER
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>>181456856
Just meme until things start settling down.
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>>181456918
Looks like the only one that barely keeps up with this is Aegis at 51.8% winrate for Neutral Blood.
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Shadowbabs, now I know how you felt during ToG. I can't stand all these bandwagoners playing my class. I hate this expansion so much.
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>>181457029
Fuck off tranny
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Hey /svg/, I'm a noob and have a fistful of questions.

For point of reference, since the cards conveniently (mostly) came together I'm on D-Shift. I have a Merlin and a D-Shift among other things, and Spellboost feels good to use for me.

Are there any Earth Rite spells that are fine to run, assuming I'm going spellboost and not earth rite? My curiosity partially stems from Guardian Golems being basically one of the few ways Runecraft gets Ward, and I kinda like the idea of defending myself while my spellboosts go off. Or, is that the job of Neutral followers?

On the topic of Earth Rite, how good or bad an idea is it to run Petrification if I can't Earth Rite it? I recently got locked to death by Mordecai the Duelist and Trial of Strength, which was unpleasant. Also, Ouroboros exists. Both are finishers that, as I understand, Runecraft in general can't deal with outside of hitting it with Petrification.

On the side note of other decks, I opened one Fairy Driver and two Tias one of which is animated, but basically none of the other important rare forestcraft cards, which is a bit problematic. Do I bother holding onto the cards in the hope that I pull together the rest of the forestcraft deck, or do I feed it all into a blender and complete the D-Shift deck?
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>tfw pulled a soul dealer with a daily pack
>spent all my luck getting a shitty leggo
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>>181457220
>doesn't like trannies
fag
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>>181456867
Oz gets fucked by Tove though. It has no way to answer that aside from letting it go 2 for 1 or waiting until evo turns, and by then it has already hit your face for 6 fucking damage.

And god help you if you don't draw mutabolt by turn 6.
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>>181457294
That's not how rng works though
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>>181457148
Not really. Aegis' winrates are currently suffering from white wolf syndrome and are being artificially inflated.
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>>181456918

>3 Baphomets, 2 Spawns
>Turn 1 Goblin
>Turn 2 Unica/Lyriel
>turn 3 GOBLIN
>Turn 4 Alice
>Turn 5 Baphomet
>Turn 6 Spawn

G
Fucking
G

Just kill this unbalanced piece of shit game. Didn't even last a year before it went Yugioh on us. Game should have had clear, and undeniable rules to keep power creep in check. Rules like

>Only one effect per card
>Cards that deal damage as an effect cannot reach more than the pp they cost to play
>Only Legendaries get 2 effects

But nooooooooooo
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>>181456918
Post dick
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>>181457294
Needs more vampy lewds.
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>>181457064
can you sound more retarded and stupid?
please don't, this general is already in a pretty bad state
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>>181457167
Shadowfag here, you have it worse than we did. The meta Shadow deck was at least a real Shadow deck and if you were already familiar with Shadow it was really easy to prey on mirrors with players that didn't understand the tools as well.

Neutal Blood is a bastardization of Blood that doesn't really resemble any Blood deck we've ever had.
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>>181457313
I play Kaleido just for Tove and it works wonders.
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>>181455160
>falling for the 2ch edit
Luna is wearing a victorian-era dress and she still has nothing to show. She's quite easily flat or very small, and compared to her parents' skeletons she also seems to be right around waist/stomach height.
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>>181457148
Might be because of the Iron Maiden tech.
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>>181457292
>Hey /svg/, I'm a noob and have a fistful of questions.
Don't bother. Just leave this shitty game while you can.
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>>181457360
Haven has more represention than Blood in recent Japanese tourney.
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>>181457313
Except it doesn't. Not have I once been fucked by Tove. I don't know what shit you've been playing against. Even if by some miracle you did 6 damage it doesn't even matter since you aren't playing Spawn as it's going to get removed.
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>>181457360
Explain this to me I wasn't playing much during Rise.
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>>181457360
Fair enough. I guess it's once in a blue moon you get matched up to Aegis and I assume that most other players assume that it's a generic Haven deck that they won against when Aegis doesn't pop out from the hand.
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>>181457029
>>181457220
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post levicraft lists
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I just started Shadowverse last week. Is Neutral Ramp Dragoncraft a good deck to play?
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>>181457406
>I-IT'S EASY BRO JUST HOPE THE BLOOD PLAYER SKIPS TURN 4
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>>181457645

Sure. Last expansion.
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>>181457476
Luna is my daughterwife
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>>181457657
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>>181457292
Honestly ward is a inferior way of defending while stalling for d-shift since it can be removed. Its better to just run a lot of removal.

Petrify is alright without earth rite, I'm sure there are some who'd debate me over that.

Brutally honest, I'd say get all the gold and cards availble to you from quests, the story and shit (you can get 2000 gold via battlnig 20 different people in private matches) and see what else you pull before committing to a single deck.
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>>181457292
I'm trying golem shift and it's not that bad, if refined may even be better than D-shift. Don't vial your golem assaults and ancient alchemists if you are interested in the deck
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>>181457645
Yeah but you'll have to craft i since buying old expansions is pretty shit.
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If anything the game needs more lolis. You can never have enough lolis.
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need a dragon list for dailies please
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>>181457645
It's really not a good idea right now, but worse than that, it's fucking expensive to play that style of deck. If you're new and hovering around the early brackets you really don't have to worry as much about the meta shit that gets discussed here, you can climb as far as A rank on jank budget stuff.
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>>181457370
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>>181457292
OI. COPYPASTA BRO, PLEASE SET THIS YOUNG LAMB ON THE PATH TO FARMING GOLD FROM THIS KUSOGE.
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>>181457645
>is the most expensive deck in the game which is also tier 3 good to play?
no
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>>181457881
>No Spawn
What the fuck is wrong with you.
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>trying to play Dirt for the first time to counter the shitty meta instead of joining the cancer
>can only muster a 50/50 winrate

Hopefully it's just me not being used to the deck, but it's frustrating playing this deck sometimes.
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>>181457881
>Only 2 Spawn

Yuck.
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>>181457590
There aren't any real "Aegis decks" per se anymore, players just add Aegis to already existing decks as a secondary wincon and when they lose without playing they just get classified as those decks, on the occasions where they actually get to play Aegis they are a lot more likely to win and get classified as Aegis.
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>remove all 3 Spawns without them attacking
>still lose to because 18 unavoidable damage
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>>181458006
>8pp card on the faaar right
>not le balanced ninja squid of 16 face damage
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>turn Elta into a commander with kiss
>ambush him
>evolve while ambushed
>watch as the blood flounders without fanfares or enhances

Hahaha I wish this worked better then it does. Its an ok combo but you're stuck kinda wasting your turn ambushing and then evolving meaning you've essentially did nothing
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>>181458023
It's just you. I'm winning 80% of my games.
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>>181458098
>manage to remove all Spawns
>still lose to Alice board flood and Alucard/Emeralda storm damage
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>>181458098
hahaha it's balanced bro just transform them instead
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>>181457362
but man, don't you love quick games? you don't like it when games never reach turn 10? don't you love being pounded by the same fucking craft and deck for 3 months? Honestly, fuck Cygames and their shitty testers, it's been 2 horrible expansions in a row and it's not like RoB was a great expansion either, I hate how devs always seem to go for the "Let's powercreep shit instead of making interesting cards" approach when making games, yes we get it, you love money, but there's a limit to people's patience and I don't think your whales are going to be spending much if there's nobody to play with.
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>try the hot fotm meme
>lose against haven/sword/anything that can abuse neutral engine well
im going back to my craft, enjoy the bood falseflagging retards
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What if cygames reverted ALL the nerfs?
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>bloodnigger netdeckers
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>spawn
lmao just go first dude
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>>181458307
>Thinking...
>Why didn't she +1/1 my Toves
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>>181458180
You know you can just give him ambush with shadowed assassin without any other setup shit right
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>>181457512
... it's uncommon to come to one of these threads, say, "hey I'm new and want tips not in the FAQ," and get first response, "run." Is it that bad?

>>181457824
I'm running a lot of removal, so there's that. I just like insurance against shit like Storm attacks taking cheapshots.

Petrify isn't for everyday stuff, it's almost explicitly for Mordecai the Duelist, Ouroboros, and other self-recursive threats. If I can rip the recursion rule off of the damn thing, it makes my life easier.

Thanks for the tip on coins n stuff.

>>181457835
Up to present, I've only vialed things I have 4+ copies of since I'm given to understand card limit in a deck is 3.

>>181457938
I... what?
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>>181454515
And 10 packs
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>>181458097
Oh I see. Like how Elana had a shit win rate but Elana Seraph had a massive one.
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>>181458265
Nobody abuses neutral engine better than blood though, but nice try bloodfag
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>he won anyway
xD balanced
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>>181457881
Why Rapunzel instead of razory or some other blood spell? Her condition can actually fuck you pretty hard when you don't have board control.
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>>181458427
Thats turn 6, assuming you think he can survive the field turn 4
Blood already has 6pp Spawn in hand at that point.
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>>181458304
>5 pp homecoming
Forest would be pretty fucking stronk
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>>181454515
It just means you were good enough to netdeck to 10k in Masters
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Should i make a neutral haven deck and add iron maiden and tribunal to it to counter spawn?
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golem assault worth running?
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>>181458441
>I... what?
Sorry, meant to summon the copypasta that gets bandied about in the general regarding how to farm for gold so that you are set for the game long-term.
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>>181458679
oh so the nerf was the cost? i always read that everyone mentions a nerf but i didnt play that much around that time so
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>all these BMing Vampys
I hate what Spawn did to the class.
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>>181457824
>Honestly ward is a inferior

Wards were put in place to stop aggro decks with their low body high follower spam. But the aggro cards got bigger bodies, and high attacks, along with deal X damage either through fanfares or evolves. Wards can't even stop aggro decks anymore.
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>>181458586
>Why Rapunzel instead of razory or some other blood spell?
Rapunzel doesn't get cucked by knuckle faggot
Bear in mind Grandmasters is almost nothing but blood decks.
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>>181458841
It's worse than a BMing Luna.
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>pulled 3 Fairy Dragon
>decide to try to build Tempo Forest with a lot of Fairy generation
>most of the time I'd rather have anything besides Fairy Dragon in my hand
>even when I can pull off Fairy Dragon with a decent amount of attack, it just dies because it only has 4 defense
>if I ever make a board without Liza or highrolling with Cybele it might as well not exist, so the protection Fairy Dragon provides is irrelevant
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>>181458841
>Spawn did
trampycucks were cancer since the skin appeared, stop being retarded
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>>181458841
Funny how none of the Urias BMed me today.
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>>181458441
Petrify has some other practical uses; denying decks that rely on amulets (Elana is an example, since its made a resurgence in this meta) and can save you from huge cards (like bahamut if you don't have proper removal on hand) or removing an enemy ward for lethal.
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Do we seriously need to wait ONE FUCKING MONTH for the nerfs?

>>181456918
How is this bullshit in ANY WAY acceptable?

HOTFIX THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW OR I WON'T SPEND ANY MORE MONEY ON THIS SHIT GAME
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NERF BLOOD ALREADY
SHADOWVERSE IS DYING
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>>181452602
RIP
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>>181459065
We used to have to wait 2 months, newfag.
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>>181458968
Just change it into a fairy driver deck.
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>>181458970
Don't reply to me Rowen.
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Odin still has the coolest intro of any lego
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>>181459115
Just Eachtar Ledger with some Alices bro
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Could I please get a concede at 62988?
Stay if you need one too.
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>>181457457
It's about the same. Neutral blood is a boring as fuck new blood archetype. Reaper + token vomit was a boring as fuck new Shadow archetype. Neither were frankly very skillful to play beyond having enough class knowledge to tech against mirror matches yourself. It's easy to pity them since this set has what seems like the best midrange shadow (in terms of fun) since standard, but I wouldn't say they're worse off since traditional vengeance or control blood got a lot stronger too.
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>go second
guys how do i stop from making this critical mistake?
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>>181454139
Of what you have? Nothing.
Eidolon maybe.
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DID YOU RIKE IT?
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3 OZ = must have for dirt?
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>>181453990
>using queen

Good luck surviving long enough to use her.
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>>181458304
>piercing rune
Would be a 3of in all rune decks again, but daria would still be tier 3 because nothing survives in removalverse.
>homecoming & gobu
Tier 1 for sure.
>dragon
Even zell and LB would be fair and balanced. Because you know, spawn.
>shadow
Pre-nerf midrange shadow was easily tier 0, so it'd definitely be tier 1 in this meta.
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Man, this just felt degenerate.
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>>181458247
>"Let's powercreep shit instead of making interesting cards"
Then the meta doesn't change and all it accomplishes is enabling some johnny meme decks
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>>181459487
One of each card best deck confirmed
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stop posting that monkey in /svg/, this wasnt a thing before totg, go fucking back to >>>/gbfg/
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>>181459459
after playing with it, yes
best card with young levi in the deck
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>>181459397
just go first duh
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>>181459397
Fill your deck with efficient removal so it's better going second.
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>>181459479
what about the beta nerfs like Skullfane?
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>>181454139
Corpse
Abomination
Eidolon
Hero
Jeanne D'Arc
Prince of Darkness

All safe to vial unless you want to make meme decks. If you're F2P and just want to climb burn them.
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>>181459641
It'd still be shit. Lion is 10 times better.
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>>181459298
Help a retard out.
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>literally 50% win rate today
>went second half the time
what's the meaning of this?
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>>181459487
Damn thats one spicy curve.
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>play blood
>starting cards are anteater, goblin and goblin leader

oh lawd am i going to lose this one?
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>>181459641
Skullfane would basically just be a Garuda who doesn't do free burn.
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Would you concede if you are 1 health?
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>>181459487
>draw spawn
>win T2

lamo

what a nice card
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>>181454139
Eidolon may be usefull if they go full fucking mad and print some sort of amulet that spawns aegis or some shit like that.
Corpselord is a living meme, don't you DARE liquefy memes.
Jeanne d'arc is shit. I can actually see cykagames BUFFING her.
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>>181459725
Thanks, Mr. Krabs.
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>>181459479
>LB
Not LB
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I miss Eachtar
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>>181457590
Take Regular Ramp vs Storm Ramp
>Win against Ramp turn 7
>Nice, won against Ramp, next game
>Win against Storm Ramp turn 7
>Nothing out of the ordinary except some weird tech cards, won against Ramp, next game

>Lose against Ramp turn 10
>Damn, lost against Ramp, next game
>Lose because Genesis turn 10
>So it was Storm after all, lost against Storm Ramp, next game
It's the best way I can explain this. You don't know it's Storm until it's too late so many of Storm Ramp losses get flagged under Regular Ramp losses, hence inflated winrate.
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>>181459517
wow how horrible
thank god the meta has changed
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>>181460024
me too, midrange shadow would actually be balanced with the current nerfs in tog
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>>181460024
I'm not
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>>181460024
stop it
i hate eachtar more than anything
you... you can't make me miss him
>fucking bullshit removals and lovecraft otks, you get so fucking close to finishing them but they get stronger the closer they are to death
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>>181460024
kys shadownigger
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>>181459952
>I can actually see cykagames BUFFING her.
Never. Buffing cards is verboten in CCGs for reasons nobody actually understands.
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T2 is so fucking stupid now. Too many of the bronze/silver cards are so strong so people luck out and get constructed curves until turn 5. Just went 4-1 playing basically neutral blood and there's not really a lot you can do if you don't get as good of a deck.
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>>181459575
Hey, it had two Tove and two Bandersnatch :^)

>>181459943
>tfw only a single game was won due to Spawn and I probably would've won it anyway

Blood's pool in the current T2 is absolutely insane so long as you can fill in the middle of the curve. It has way too much undercosted removal.
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>keep going second
>went back to 0 points today
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>>181457292
Petrify is perfectly fine without ER
Mainly because when you start playing better people, they deny your kaleido targets, so petrify makes one
There's also the extremely fringe scenario where unenhanced Petrify can deal with Mordecai/Alice with Sexton on the field, whereas Enhanced one can't, since there's no Transform protection yet other than Aegis.
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>>181460024
He's not even gone though.
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>Haven and Blood Tier 0
ITS NOT FAIR SWORDBROS
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR EXPANSION
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>90% of the meta is blood

Nice game shadowbabs. Not even shadowcraft was this bad.
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>opponent has no cards in hand in take two
>opponent topdecks spawn
>have to take it out
>opponent topdecks earshock ogre, leaves me at 1 hp
>opponent topdecks razory claw
I love this game
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>>181459929
Eeeeh, you still have potential since you're running meme mask
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>>181460467
Hug me swordfriend, us elfs are suffering too.
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Does anyone else strongly get the impression they _need_ to nerf the Spawn Blood deck before the first month ends, as in it will be damaging for their playerbase if people can't play decks other than Spawn or Spawn counters without just playing a loss simulator?
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Is there any hope of being relevant in this meta without using Alice decks? I want to have a semi-usable deck for every class so I can do my dailies in ranked for score rewards and gold since I'm still in low A.

I have two Lions so I'm considering crafting another one of them, at least for my Haven wins. I don't have any Spawns, but with 2x Belph and 2x Soul Dealer I've been running them in a fairly standard Vengeance deck with some of the new cards that fit well. Rune's pretty safe with budget burn (-Oz +Melvie), so's sword with a mediocre Albert midrange deck. Dragon's pretty rough, I use a pretty cheap storm deck, but I did roll two Jabberwocks I'd like to meme with if possible.

I mulligan Forest and Shadow. I have 3x each of Rose Queen and Minthe but basically nothing else for them, so they're straight fucked for a while.
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>>181460580
elfs? i thought those were just a myth, a legend
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Fair and Balanced
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>>181460626
lol salaryman Tanaka doesn't give a fuck, he just wants his short games.
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>>181460681
looks like SOMEONE should have kept Revelation handy
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>>181460024
Me too. As a hag, he never had enough shadows to do anything.
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Need a concede please.
71499
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>>181460679
Some say they used to be the only ones capable of opening the gates of hell, but that was long long ago.
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>>181460681
>CYGAMES SAW NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS
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B Rank player here
Nobody plays spawn here, its all random different shit
So it wont actually hurt the playerbase
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>>181460858
I still get PtP PTSD when I see this picture.
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>>181460049
I'm saying instead of just printing interesting cards(Nothing wrong with that), they should introduce something that changes the direction of the meta as well
Nothing is worse than a large update that doesn't have any impact on the competitive level, that's why rotations exist.
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>>181460681
Seriously /svg/ How many cards does a roach deck need to play to get 20 damage on turn 7?

How many cards does blood need to do 20 damage on turn 7? 3, three fucking cards.
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>tfw Spawn will never get nerfed because he's a legendary
>tfw we'll get something even more bullshit than Spawn next expansion
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Duelyst is getting a new expansion soon if you want to try some other card games as shadowverse is dying!
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>t4 Lion into evolved Tinman
STOP
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>/svg/ on day one
"huuuh he fell for the spawn meme LMAO"
"snek 2.0 xD"
"blud to meme tier again"

>/svg/ today
"huuuuuhh nerf spwn uhhhuh"
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>>181460731
>entire game is balance around the average japanese salaryman's commute time
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reverse mary when
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>>181460976
Honestly, I refuse to leave B. It's a much better game here, with winstreak bonuses and a varied meta. I'm allowed to play fair/fun decks and win SOMEtimes, so it's perfect for a NIAP Johnny like me.
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>>181460768
Thanks Arisa!
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>>181458968
Fairy dragon will never be good. Unless they add something that gives him storm
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>>181461062
3
2 roaches and 1 bounce
fairies are tokens and not cards
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>50% win rate with neutral blood in masters after 50 games
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG. IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR.
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>>181461184
Rune and haven are way worse than spawn desu.
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>>181461290
You're probably going second more than usual
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wtf i love storm haven now
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>>181461185
>tfw they are killing the game faster than the japs are killing themselves.
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>>181461190
What, like Kel? Healing you does damage to your opponent?

Or your opponent's heals on their turn are transferred to you?

Or your self damage heals your opponent instead?

Not sure exactly wtf you're talking about.
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>>181461264
but where do you get those tokens?
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>>181461185
Is there hard proof for this or is this just an idea? I get where it comes from if it is an idea.
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Anyone else going back to HS?
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>>181461264
Realistically you could only get 19 damage on 7
4 0cost cards is possible, but you need board space
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>>181461414
>alice
Post dek it looks interesting.
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Quick, i need something that can counter spawn
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>>181461604
i got held back too many times, i think that dream is dead. probably will just get a ged.. oh you meant...
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>>181461604
Nope. Too late now. Not gonna spend 500 buckaroos just to catch up.
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>>181461658
Burn rune's the best we've got.
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>>181461634
It's possible if you run lionel but that's stretching it.
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what's the best oz dick?
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>>181461658
Mutagenic Bolt or Winter's Caprice
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>>181461658
Iron Maiden for one turn
Mutagenic bolt
Pixie mischief
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>>181455995
>this meme

Yurius is still too good for his cost honestly. He can easily rack up more damage than he should normally be able to. But he's not broken in the current meta and stop using this retarded meme.
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>>181461723
Even then it wouldn't be a 3-card combo
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>>181461658
Kill leader before turn 6
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>>181461658
Dirt burn feat professor is your best bet. It's not autopilot tho, you gotta try your hand a bit before winning constantly with it.
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>>181461658
There's some Aegis lists running Iron Maiden doing fairly decently against it but terrible against everything else.
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Jeb was right the whole time
We laughed... Who's laughing now?
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>>181461258
Dragon Fairy doesn't need a change. It's a good cards for stalling and protecting other followers. It's like Heavenly Hound. The problem is that Forest barely has strong cards or followers worth protecting. Give Forest some overstatted followers with broken effects to play on the same turn that DF and they will be used in all decks.
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I just want to finish my grind to Master after months of barely playing ranked outside of dailies. AA3 is complete ass.
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>>181461658
I got mine countered just 5 minutes ago.
By Homecoming
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>>181461781
>Pixie mischief
Fuck you just reminded me
I ran into a can't attack maximum stall forest in meme masters once
It could possibly work IF there wasn't a giant overpowered neutral package released the same expansion
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>>181461897
But then you still need a fairy engine to make FD worth it
Turn Fairy into a tribe and add other cards to it and might be okay
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>>181460553
late reply. but heres the end result I won that game
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>>181461062
>Seriously /svg/ How many cards does a roach deck need to play to get 20 damage on turn 7?
You need 3 roaches, guidance and x3 zero cost cards and evo

0 > 0 > 0 > guidance > x3 Roach + evo.
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>>181461897
Fairy dragon would honestly be better if it didn't have ward
At least you'd have a way to protect it.
But nothing can protect you from "lol 4 defense"
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>>181462054
how is that lethal
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>>181462169
Rev'ing his own spawn.
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>>181461861
I've been running that kind of list more or less since the expansion landed and it beats most Neutral Aggro handily as well. The only one it really has trouble with is Forest, but who the fuck is playing that.

I can imagine a lot of decks that'd kick my ass easily but none of them are being played.
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I'm playing "it" and it's disgusting, what the fuck
I have to get to master though, then I can have fun
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>>181462054
Good jorb spawnfriend
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Forest of Memes can fuck your Spawn I think. Maybe roach will come back
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>>181462117
and how do you get those 0 cost cards?
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>sword could only hold on tier 1 for a whole week

l a m o
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>>181462169
Spawn decks might be too high IQ for you.
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>>181462016

Great! Now you just delayed your fate by one turn since 7pp at turn 7 just leaves your field barren and allows them to just play it again.
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>>181462054
post your dick pls
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It should be possible with three 0-cost cards. Play them, Guidance one back, then Roach for 5+6+7+evo.
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Can you lose GM once you gain it? I want to grind with Spawn until I get there then not touch it again, but I don't want to get it then drop down because I want to play a deck that I could play in my sleep
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>>181462241
no, once you get to masters you get to start the grandmaster grind.

there is no more fun decks in master, its even more tryhard than AA now
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>>181462029
I ran a deck with Forest Archelon last expansion to lock shadow players so they couldn't Eachtar.
Wasn't too strong but when it worked was pretty fun. Haven't tried it this expansion but I'm pretty sure it's trash given how you are dead by turn 5 due to Alice and her goblins.
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>>181462169
I would assume something like
>killing albert with 2/4 scar
>dropping Spawn
>limiling the 4/1 Scar
>hitting face for 7
>heals up to 8 protecting him have another enhanced albert
>lethal next turn
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>>181462210
That's some fucking bullshit
Spawn's last words are utterly bullshit
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>Least played craft pre WoD was Heaven
>Save my rupies and vials with the idea of making a great Heaven deck right away
>Second best deck right now is Heaven deck

Feels good to be gangsta and do gangsta shieet.
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wew lads
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>>181462221
Can you post the deck?
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>>181461473
no
mary reflects damage on youre turn
reverse mary would be something that reflects face dmg on the enemys turn
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>>181462241
Grandmaster turned Master into a shitshow. There is no more fun to be had.
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>>181462439
B rank?
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>>181462407
Bouncing Forest of Dreams can buy you a lot of turns, but there's still storm to deal with not to mention the insane earlygame pressure they have
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>>181462286
Spending 2 evo of course. So T7 OTK only possible if you have 3 evo.
>deal 18 damage
>all your roaches on board
>opponent still can win with 2HP
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>open 3 wonderland packs
>don't get shit
>open 4 standard packs
>zirnitra
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>>181462439
t. D1
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>>181462304
rip bandwagoners who crafted Cinderella
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Japanese salarymen ruined this game.
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>>181462510
Did you forget Forest and Rune exist?
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>>181462859
Yes, and those salarymen all happen to work for Cygames.
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>>181458206
the first version of neutral blood had no spawn and did perfectly well anyway
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>>181461046
>they should introduce something that changes the direction of the meta

Ban/Restricted list for Ranked, updated weekly. And nothing is above being banned. None of this "hurr Legendary's are immune to nerfing" bullshit when almost ALL of the games problems are FUCKING. LEGENDARIES.

>that's why rotations exist

They need to make a new base set for that to happen first, and doing that would be very difficult as older players would bitch by having all of their old cards rendered unuseable unless they made their way into this new base set.
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>>181462304
Consider yourselves lucky swordbros.
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>>181462859
>wtf why doesnt a nip gaem balances their shit around neet amerifats? fucking nuke them again guise
you guys are retarded
im loving this exp but for some reason i stick around here and get angry reading all this shit, i have issues
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Can we discuss BO3 tournament meta?
Obviously Blood is going to be autoinclude in every set of decks, but what other 2 decks will be common? I'm expecting Lion and Neutral Sword
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What the fuck are you even supposed to do against Tove? This shit is better than most 3-drops. What were they thinking?
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>>181461658
Necroassassin, lurching corpse, taboo
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39679
help please
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>>181462527
This is the list I'm running right now. Priority is Plea, Snow White, and either Feena or Tea Time depending on whether I'm on play or draw.
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>>181463043
>going second
sorry friend looks like you got outskilled
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>take two is actually worse than hearthstone arena
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>>181463056
Those counter Frog, not Spawn. You still eat 8 face damage unless you transform it.
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>>181458060
wtf is this 3 spawn svg meme, no actual netdeck used 3

do you enjoy pulling 1-2 spawn in your first few turns or what. and then spawn is mostly strong when it is tutored and for that you could go even with one, two for more consistency (suppose you pulled one, still can tutor the second)
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Is runic guardian good in this meta since it's pretty much an ancient elf turn 3 to block aggressive starts and doesn't die to any early removal besides elf twin assault?
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>>181462319
Im a AA3 shitter and Im still testing out the deck in ranked so don't expect a gorrillion wins from it
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do you think cygames anticipates the shitshow after releasing their retarded expansions?
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>>181463271
what happens if you don't get a sigil down early
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>>181463098
thanks vampy
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>>181463173
This looks pretty good, thanks senpai
>>
YOROSHIKU NE~
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>>181463043

Once you play it for yourself, you'll see it's balanced and in line with the rest of the game.
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>>181463389
If we can predict most of it with the lack of data we got and without being able to playtest stuff for weeks/months, then it's safe to assume they can as well.
It's all done so they can sell the game better for Tanaka-san and his coworkers. The rest is just an afterthought.
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>>181463032
Aegis Haven and whatever people cook up to counter either of them.
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wtf i hate lovecraft now
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>>181463271
Offensively statted, ergo shit as a ward
The forest Tree does her job better
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>>181463223
You eat 6 unless they evolve and don't swing it at something for some reason.
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>>181463389
No? 2chan is not so buttmad like /svg/.
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>>181463389
even /svg/ could tell bkb and cthulhu were crazy, so yeah of course they know
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>Matriarch'd a full shadow board
>he had a lunching corpse
>his ability killed my matriarch before she dealt 5 damage to Luna
WHY IS THIS A THING?
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>>181463578
Aegis sucks.
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>>181463649
Why would they swing it?
If they don't attack it keeps ambush and has 8 waiting
If they do they hit you for 8, but they lose the ambush.
Better to keep it hidden unless really necessary
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>>181463043
>about to kill 2 tove with her lyrial who also survives after it
>still complains

luna is a whiny bitch
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>>181463368
okay thanks cutie
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>>181463008
+How did she died? By being angrily gangraped by a horde of goblins I hope.
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>>181463043
Just kindly treant bro
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>>181463858
dumb esl
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>>181463647
It's not offensively statted, it's a 2/3 that becomes a 3/4.
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>>181462169
Go face, play squidboy, nuke your whole board, squidboy does six more damage, game won.
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>>181463810
>Meanwhile he evo's lyrial to kill his lyrial for free while developing Bapho
The whining is justified
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>>181463858
the fairies could only watch and secretly masturbate
the horror
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>>181463858
You're a sick degenerate. Get out of here.
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where's the non-neutral shadow
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>>181463937
I must be remembering it wrong then, my bad.
Still gets royally fucked if you're going 2nd, since Alice buffs Toves to fucking 4/4s to kill her clean
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Wait so how do you get rid of Dark Alice without banish?
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I wonder if you could program a bot to play Spawn. It seems to linear and simple that you could automate your wins. I'm too retarded to program though.
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threadly reminder to ignore "him"
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>>181464076
Everything is neutral now faggot.
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>>181464116
Just win before turn 7
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>>181464116
Turn her into a rat
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>>181464082
>Tove
>Bloodcraft Follower
>getting buffed by Alice
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>>181464116
>how do you get rid of Mordecai without banish
Transform.
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>>181464076
too bad for you, shadow is neutral now
be happy your neutral midrange is spicier than the others thanks to deaths ledger
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>>181464284
Oh, I see. So it really is kinda just like Morde. Why give Shadow another Morde though?
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>>181464116
We've had Mordecai for 4 sets already anon. Just develop your game and don't worry too much about her.
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>>181464262
I've been playing too much Forest lately
Looking glass got to my brain, sorry
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>>181464082
why are you even posting lmao
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>>181464375
...Why give blood another Soul Dealer?

Also she's flat out worse, banishing all your shadow cards in your whole deck.
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>>181464535
>not dread sea + bahamut + dshift
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>>181464535
>turn 7 do nothing at best when blood is doing their OTK the same turn
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>>181464535
You might want to have a seat anon.

https://youtu.be/EB_FmQm5RzM
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A battle between forgotten legends
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What does grandmaster even do again?
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>>181464535
Now this actually feels fun to pull off unlike a certain someone.
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>newfags replying to the avatarfag
/hsg/ is back up fuck off retards
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>>181463402
Concede because you already lost to neutral sword. But really, even you your forced to player her without a sigil she's at least a 2/3 who can trade favorably to the smaller followers of aggro decks. She's pretty much the opposite of mage of nightfall so at least she affects the state of the board. Also dirt burn only runs smelter as it's sole ward and you want to be at an health advantage so you can play mutagenic bolt safely. And late game she at least has ward which can save you in a pinch unlike mage. I don't know, the best way to find out is to just play the game so I'll try her out in my next few games.
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>>181464801
Oh no, it's stalker-san.
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>>181464801
I guess it's the new expansion
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Need a concede pls

36345
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is this a good erp game community
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>>181464801
We're all equal under the sun brother
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>Windmill + Queen of dread sea + Genesis + Arriet
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>>181463368
Why run Laura or Limil?
>>
is spawn honestly worse than TotG shadow?
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>>181464801
Yeah its pretty sad.
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>>181464953
Thanks Vampy
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>>181465079
Too early to tell, it's pretty cancerous, but we had a whole expansion of shadow cancer.
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>>181465056
I'm glad to see Rowen return to his meme roots
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>>181465079
I think what I hate the most about this card is that it can completely turn games around if they let you safely t5 baph. Having gone up against it and used it myself, it feels like a very low effort wincon. I don't like it at all but I wanna get my last 5 levels in blood.
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>opponent plays spawn and evolves
>my turn 9 but i can't evolve albert because it isn't enough damage. use last evolve to clear his board
>3 board space to work with. got grimnir. got CoCK. don't know which one i'm going to lose... but the ward isn't last right?
>lost the bane one, fucking saved my ass after opponent took down both wards with spawn and emeralda, getting lethal with albert
don't give a fuck about momposting, that shit was insane
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>>181465079
Yes.
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>>181465079
I'm not sure, they're different kinds of cancer. TotG Shadow was a broken honest deck. Like, definitely cancerous but it still played a straight game and you might beat it because they drew bad or you had better fundamentals. This actually made it really frustrating to play against sometimes though because you just couldn't do anything except hope the game worked out well sometimes.

Spawn is a broken dishonest deck. It's way more fragile than Shadow was and you can definitely build to counter it, but it it's total bullshit for other reasons because either you can beat it or you can't beat it and that's basically decided the moment the game starts.
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>>181465079
even if you mutagenic whatever they had before turn 7, that means 12 to the face anyway
eachtar is that retarded
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>>181465325
cock always spawn storm -> ward -> bane
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>>181464535
is it a pic of envybae
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Eachtar should give storm desu
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>>181463368
i like that deck that a guy from b made in the previous thread way more
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Is CoCK the most overrated card ever?
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>blood mirror
>win coinflip but brick and draw no bapho
>kill him the turn after he plays spawn anyway
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>>181463785
If they swing it they get 8 damage and remove something. If they don't it eats removal anyway. Swinging is the better choice against shadow because it'll almost always be removed unless you already watched them blow like 3 of their random destructions or you have a bunch of weenies on board, which would be very hard to do against shadow when you played a 5 mana 2/1 earlier. You also have shit like Death's Breath to deal with even if he isn't removed.

Long story short, evolve hit face is not happening against shadow. The reasonable best case scenario for blood is getting two seperate Spawns in, removed or not, and burning the other 6-8 HP off with followers or burn. Neutral blood doesn't have as much burn as control so their matchup is ultimately worse against shadow than Control's.
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>>181465505
>>181457602
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>>181465762
meantime svg claims that ambush is better than storm
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>>181457602
Who's the black guy?
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>>181464721
>he fell for that neutral ledger meme
even dork alice ToS deck is better than this shit
she also has a nice animation
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CSWORD NETDECKLIST WHEN?
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What's a cheapish version of shadow neutral?

I've got two shadow quests, but I own basically none of the shadow legendaries you'd need to make a normal deck.
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I fucking love shitting on these neutral cunts with pepe memes
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Is it worth to join the neutral spawn bandwagon in A rank or should I just keep whatever neutral sword I cobbled up from my packs?
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>>181465870
Meanwhile you still try to defend this retarded deck attacking strawmen
Kill yourself
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>>181465057
>limil
It's used for maintaining my health at a decent rate
>Laura
im not autistic enough to save my last evolve on the enhanced baphomet abyss
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>make tons of neutral aggro cards
>everyone plays neutral aggro decks
Worst expansion to date, it's a shame all the interesting build around cards are going to waste.
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>>181466023
lol fucking madman
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Need some private match gold.
57831
Can anyone help a sod with no friends by smashing my face?
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>>181465325
Read the card, it says in which order they appear
Same with Aliwdas
Same with Aria (I think)
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>>181466023
DELET THIS
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VAMPY-CHAN SAIKYOU DESUSHI~
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>>181465964
I wish I found even 1 of that new 5 drop with bane, played it in take 2 and it's cool
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>>181466035
Building anything because it's "good", particularly this early in the set, is a terrible idea. It could easily stop being good in a week. My homebrews do too well against blood for me to personally think it's going to be the meta king this set.
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>>181466262
discord-kun...
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>>181466023
Now imagine that Snow was Alice instead
You'd be dead twice over
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>go 2nd as cancer blood in mirror
>he gets off turn 5 baph
>still win because I just throw down a bunch of alices and evolve for buffs so he cant drop it safely
>drop my spawn turn 8 and he concedes
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>>181466136
Thanks Vampy
10/20
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>>181466313
I'm not but if it makes you angry then yes, I am a part of the discord.
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>>181466128
You have to go back.
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>>181466350
And? If I had perfect draws as well I would've won before t5.
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Spawn would be way more balanced if we could designate blockers ala MtG
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I've played this game for like two or three weeks yet I'm consistently facing decks with multiple duplicate legos (usually three Alices). Meanwhile I have one Dark Alice and one Satan. How are these people still C rank?
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>ignore a 5/6 on the board
>win
>isn't even cute
Delete this card. Is there any part of the player base that wanted this card?
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>>181465997
Just run the neutral core with Alice and shit then add on random value cards like Howl and your one Eachtar.
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>>181466692
sandbaggers my dear c anon
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>>181466709
Cue some bloodbab telling you about how good sword and forest had it in the past
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>>181466692
>three weeks
>C Rank
I think you're a bit touched in the head.
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>>181466692
they sandbagged to face new people like you and have easy matches
>I have on Dark Alice and one Satan
you should reroll
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43555
Ichi concede onegai
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>>181466709
cblood enthusiasts
but we never wanted this
neutral blood is cancer
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>>181466797
At least those decks took skill.
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>game keeps getting worse every single expansion from a balance standpoint
>powercreep is now the norm
>number of legos multiplied
>rufusal to nerf legos
>extremely scarce western YT/Streaming
>extreme whale catering shit like cosmetics being added out of the whazoo to milk shitters who pay for all cards further throughout these shitty metas and even ways to buy old sleeves
>Shadowbabs will defend this shit because m-muh waifus
>m-muh granb-brue and shitty animeme
>m-muh seijus
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>>181466885
Well, one of them did.
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>>181466853
Thank you meido
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>>181466709
Card is balanced, even with Baphomet in Control Blood. Its activator needs to be having 30 blood cards in your deck to stop the neutral cancer.
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>Vampyfags bringing momposting to a new extreme
You outdid the hags, I'm fucking impressed
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>>181466709
They wanted control Blood, unfortunately no one saw just putting the most overtuned early game engine and then putting Bapho+Spawn on top coming
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>>181466885
nothing in this game takes skill
there just aren't enough decisions to be made for that
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Play OTK dirt
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Reminder to never leave home without your grimnir.
3rd game in a row where he's won the game for me against blood
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>>181466902
worst part is the fucking nerf scapegoats for all their good legends so they can save money. honestly fucking bullshit even Jewstone nerfs legends.
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anyone have cheap neutral witch deck? I need one for daily..
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>>181467138
Just Dshift and farm the bloodshitters.
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>>181467109
you won't live to t10
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>>181465762
>blood mirror
>go second and never draw baphomet
>neither does the opponent
>control the board and go face cause muh evolves
>win turn 9 despite playing spawn second cause he couldn't kill me at 17 hp with it
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>replace "Win 1 match as Sword"
>get "Win 1 match as Sword"
What? Was this always possible?
Fuck off, KMR.
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>>181467115
Grimnir is among the most retarded cards, I feel dirty as fuck whenever I win with him.
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Thoughts
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>>181467295
You can easily, why don't you try it before you judge?
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>tove into leader into BKB going first episode
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>>181467375
Aiela is bad.

Zell is bad.
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>>181466902
>>extreme whale catering shit like cosmetics being added
What's wrong with this?
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>>181466136
Thanks Luna!
11/20
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>Sword wants cute girls
>Blood wants cute girls
>both get stuck with albert and spawn
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>>181467375
>Zell
y
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I miss playing control.
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Someone post the most Tier 1 deck possible with blood. I need to do win 6 ranked games daily and I don't want to play the game too much.
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>>181467526
It's time they could spend doing better stuff like adding game modes, single player content, events and other shit like observable mode arenas.
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>>181467545
pure thunder young guy>>>whores
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>>181467554
>>181467523
he's trying to baha/isra-zell off the ursula, dumb asses
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>lost 500 pts playing Spawn
I thought this deck was supposed to be braindead
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>>181466136
Thanks mama Forte!
12/20
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>>181467750
And that's fucking awful retard. Arriet + Gen is more flexible and does more damage.
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>>181467375
your going to brick hard anon
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>>181467784
with how unga this shit got im not sure how people even last to t6, im pretty sure its swordniggers falseflagging
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>how to fix shadowverse
>add instants
>add a lot of instant removal and counter spells
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>>181466847
In my current deck obviously. I'm hoping to get some Corpselords at some point, and another Dark Alice wouldn't hurt either.

That said I would appreciate some help with this deck. Basically I'm stalling until Dark Alice soft locks. This shit works surprisingly well.
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>>181467750
that's dumb
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>>181467784
you're just that retarded
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>>181467545
I had to stop playing this after the fourth Vampy taunting me while having lethal Spawn set up. Why does the game have to be like this.
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Anyone up for a round of Reverse T2?

13107

Make a terrible deck for each other and figure out how to eke a win.
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>Start match
>Only 3 - 4 pp cards
>First two turns, only draw 3-4pp cards
>Surrender game, uninstall Shadowverse, delete my Steam account, piss on my computer out of frustration mixed with my autistic rage

Yeah, fuck this.
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>>181467375
Use >>181464714
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>>181467545
albert is a cute girl ><
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>>181467902
well I mean, other than adding more alices and trashing pluto, I don't have any more tips
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>>181467839
Arriet + Gen doesn't clear the board
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>1 dmg off from killing bloodfag after he t6 evo'd spawn
>next turn he kills me from 18 by attacking and one scarlet
UH SHADOWBABS?
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>>181468025

what's wrong with pluto you turbocunt
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>>181467965
Scratch that. Something came up in meatspace. Sorry.
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>>181464880
Kill yourself you fucking faggot
youre like shit now
a small one
discord owns you
fucking discord
pathetic fucker
>K-on
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>>181467965
tfw no lou sleeves
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>>181467575
>aegis haven
>control blood
>dirtrune
>dark alice + tos + satan (meme but probably the most fun deck ever created)
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>>181468081
they usually do 20 dmg with either alucard, emeralda or dark general
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>>181466136
Thanks Vampy!
13/20
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>try playing control blood
>always draw one of my 2 spawns
Meanwhile, I never draw any other card every game.
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>>181468081
Esmeralda and Scarlet are fucking retarded and obvious scapegoats when Cygames has to start to nerf Blood.
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These bad boys come into the club and slap your waifu ass what do you do?
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>>181468087
she's useless
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>>181468123
I've never gone to discord. I don't get where you get all those assumptions from. You're a neurotic mess you know that, stalker san?
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>>181468204
you're supposed to play 3 spawns in control
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>>181468230
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>>181468230
Lion their asses if they didn't gangrape Alice the previous turn.
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>>181468209
spawn by itself isnt that strong when you think about it, but when on the same exp you get cards like those plus bkb guy and lmao 2pp 3/3 then you know something smells fishy
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Worth adding 1 Revelation into Neutral Blood?
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>matched against forestcraft with cammy as leader
>open menu to check his rank
>sudden urge to jo to a girl in a leotard
fuck
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>>181468035
Don't need to clear the board if you win the game
Better off doing Windmill+Ursula+LuciferEvo or Windmill+UrsulaEvo+Arriet+storm or Windmill+Ursula+Israfil+storm
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>>181468236
Sorry, what I'm supposed to say now? :c
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>>181467784
It's completely highroll based.
To win you both need to go first and draw good, shit sometimes happen in streaks and sometimes you just lose in streaks.
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Can I make it to grandmaster with a budget Jeb! rune deck?
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>>181468081

>Turn 1 Goblin
>Turn 2 Unica/Lyriel
>Turn 3 GOBLIN
>Turn 4 Alice
>Turn 5 Baphomet
>Turn 6 Spawn

G
Fucking
G

Gitgud kid LOL.
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>>181466857
I miss the day when Bloody mary + Claw + dire bond where impressive 1 turn dmg.
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>go second 7 times in a row
Thanks for the free losses cygames
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>>181468330
I never noticed how rapey those zombies look.

>181468468
Apologize and I might forgive you.
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>>181466136
Thanks Isabelle, animated halo golem is pretty tight!
14/20
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>>181468236
>>181468468
Discord conspiracy!
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>>181468542
Yes. It's counters blood the best
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>>181468542
Not with a budget one.
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>>181468653
By this point I am pretty convinced discord burned some anon's village and killed his entire family so now he's hell bent on revenge.
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>>181468542
people did dat in totg and now you have more aggro dirt cards, so i dont see why you cant
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>>181468612
>telling your friends to tell tales
/hsg/ pls
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>>181468469
no point
reddit here don't understand what highroll means
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>make Gobu
>didn't "see" it will be cancer with OTK Roach

>make Spawn
>obvious as fuck it will be cancerous since Bahpo, at least when they were pushing with sneks it needed vengeance to work

I won't be surprised if the next wave of spawn will be either bandersnatch or demonkey when they axe Bapho.
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>>181468542
Just vial everything you have and netdeck sword. Go for it
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>>181468869
i still believe there was nothing wrong with gobu, its jsut that cykagaems forgot that forest exists
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>queue into the only guy left in the world playing PtP forest on ladder
>lose
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Ban all bloodniggers from unranked
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Shadow needs a board clear like revelation or themis. Something that uses shadows to deal damage to all followers.
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>>181468556

Bloody Mary + Claw + Precious Blood Fang is a potential 9Hp damage by turn 7. From there I would just draw a dark general or Alucard for an evolved 6Hp and that would usually be game. A deck type I used up to TotG that got me to AA.

It was even more hilarious when they had a Yurius on the field since kys Blood was really popular and that 9Hp turn 7 reach became 13Hp.
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>>181464714
I crafted that deck day 1 and after 15 games couldn't pull it off a single time
Worth it, only had to craft 1 more sea queen anyway
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>you thought the game couldnt get worse
>it does
>get called a redditor/D ranker for calling it out because its "hurp durp first week"
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Spawn really need 6 health so it can't go beyond revelation
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>>181468984
>forgot that forest exist
Well that explains a lot, specially with them now being in the fucking garbage, they forgot to cards for the class which is stuck playing Roach.
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>tfw made a new account just to sandbag in C with spawnblood
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>already got the 8000 score mark
>only 3.5k into Master
This is harder then I thought it would be
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>>181468869
Spawn isn't even the worst part, it's the neutral package. Making so many strong neutral cards is the stupidest idea they could have come up with, now everyone has strong aggro decks that control can't properly counter because the neutral haven lists are playing Aegis and the neutral dragon lists are playing Ouro.

Maybe the game will be worth playing after the nerfs next month but right now it's garbage.
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>>181469064
Eachtar is a board clear retard.
Also, Foul Tempest
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>>181468330
save me the lips
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>>181468987
How bad you are. But don´t worry everyone got all those times.
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The nice thing about playing Forest is that you don't mind going second that much.
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How well nep does against both neutral decks and spawn?
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Anyone up for Reverse T2? Build a crappy deck for the other player and eke out a janky win.

17691
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>>181469064
Shadow does have a board clear that comes with a free 5/6 body. It also serves as +8 damage reach in case you want to win the game.
Foul Tempest is still good it's just shadowniggers don't want to run shadow generation anymore and need their precious necromancy for squasher and eachtar.
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>>181469310
Too slow
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>>181468869
>sneks will be collateral damage when Baph is nerfed
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>>181468469
Yeah man haha shit's so weak that's why it has the highest winrate this game's ever seen haha :^)
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>>181464614
That's not worse, just different. Deck thinning can be incredibly powerful.
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>>181469103
I basically got a 5-0 in take two thanks to Quijote and the immortal carrot of infinite storm value. Shit was hilarious I was in top deck mode until I got Quixote and then with carrot the raping started, shit was fun.
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Feels like i am the only one who genuinely enjoys this expansion. Neutral cards allow me to create more than 1 deck without spending much vials.
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>>181469310
>how does a deck that has N O answers to early game and its only 3drops being a 1attack that can only attack wards deal with super aggresive aggro decks?
I dunno senpai you tell me
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>>181469260
Yeah, difference between 42% and 44% WR isn't really worth complaining about.
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>>181469115
Yeah I'm sure neutral blood's winrate will magically go down from now on even though historically the opposite always happens, you're just an stupid redditor
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>>181469210
Foul tempest is 3 with 6 shadows, good luck getting to work on turn 3 or 4 when you need it the most.
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>>181469310
I'm 8-2 in low masters with Nep/ledger today.
Khawy cucks Spawn as long as you stay above 8 life or they don't have Urd.
Early game relies a lot on drawing your cheap removals otherwise you get overwhelmed.
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>>181469186
Spawn is the fast and strongest hardcore wincon.
Think of the sword neutral package. How do they finish out games? T9 Albert. How does Haven? Aegis, also turn 9.
Eachtar is the same turn as Abyss but not even balanced man can pull 16 damage out of his ass on a empty board.
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>>181469310

Games are decided by turn 4, it just takes a while to play it through, but make no mistake senpai. Turn 4, you already know if you are going to win or lose with 80% efficiency.
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>>181466136
Anyone else got a moment for a match?
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>>181469210
>Eachtar
I was talking about a spell. I don't feel like using that in a nep deck. Foul tempest is too slow, if it costed 4 shadows it'd be viable. You'll be dead to Alice before you get 6 shadows most of the time.
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>>181469598
>Think of the sword neutral package. How do they finish out games? T9 Albert.
Or you know, killing the opponent before that with t5 Albert or t6 Alwida.
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>>181466023
can i see decklist? i never have anyone to compare pepes with since no one puts in more than the 5 seconds of thought needed to do dailies with it, but i've rly tried refining it this expansion
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>>181469310
Not very well.

It's strange that Nep hasn't gotten a themis-like card after so many expansions.
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>>181469260
post elf dicks
>>
>NIGERU GOBBU
>>
Feria getting full stats on evolve is absolutely retarded, I hope you all have her starred.
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God I can't win at all with dragon now.
>>
>fight blood
>go 1st or 2nd
>lose

Defend this
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>>181469310
most of versions of nep always were too slow vs aggro, but i guess some versions of it with a lot of wards may be ok

it doesn't have any serious answer vs spawn though
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This card needs to fuck off
>first day
>open 17 packs
>only leggo is this
>this is now the 2nd one i've gotten
It's like they doubled the rate only this one drops.
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>>181469331
No interest? Well, alright. Closing the room.
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>>181466136
Thanks Selwyn, you and the other 6 guys running forest with him are alright in my books.
15/20
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>>181469184
That's a good climbing speed what are you talking about?
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>>181469861
[defends this]
I'm glad I crafted neutral blood first thing this xpac.
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>>181469861
Unlucky dude, you only lost because he's a luckshitter who highrolled, blood is actually really weak and overrated :^)
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>>181469904
It isn't bad though.
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>>181469792
I've got Feria, Goblin Leader starred. I figure Feria will have her evolve reduced to 3/3, and goblin leaders PP increase to 4.

I've also got Tavo and BKB starred as well, they're pretty ridiculous.
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>>181469904
I opened like 100 packs and I still have to get one meme corpse. I want the fucking emblem.
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>>181469554
ledger is probably better as neutral ledger with alic and stuff
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>>181469861
If you go first you lose to their BKB and scarlet which 2/3 for one everything you do
If you go second you get crushed by the neutral shit
And because of that, you can't kill them before turn 7/8 to get murdered by a certain legendary monster
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>>181469945
Is it? Maybe all the GMs just didn't stop playing for 2 days
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i miss neutral sword
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>>181469989
I have never seriously played shadow and never will.
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>>181469260
Post deck please. I'm struggling to make B&B + Arriet work.
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Problem Bloodbab?
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>>181469603
That's bullshit. By turn 4 you can't know for sure if opponent has baphomet or not :^)
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>>181469798
Just bm and pretend to have lethal. Regardless if you do or not.
I get a couple wins a day doing it.
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>blood against blood
>go 2nd
>w-well maybe he bricks
>the two cards I get in the first turn are both abysshits
I deserve it for being such a fucking faggot.
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>>181468402
No. For what purpose? Winning the mirror?
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>>181470136
What happens when he whips out double Urd?
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>>181470136
Emeralda would kill you, you know.
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>>181470136
>MOMMY I POSTED THE ONE GAME BLOOD BRICKED AND DIDN'T GO FIRST
>TIME TO UPLOAD THIS TO MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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>>181466136
Thanks Erika!
16/20
We're almost there!
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>>181470136
>he would still have lethal if he had another spawn in hand or emeralda
I think you got lucky if anything
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>>181469861
>go first
>lose
that's your fault
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>>mfw all the new decks are inconsistent for me
>go back to my old and retarded roar deck
>it just werks
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>>181470206
Haven board floods.
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>play spawn
>only lose to other spawns
really makes you think
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>>181470371
he already used 1 spawn that I killed with khawy.
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>>181470302
Wouldn't Morde come back with the ward? I don't know how the new ToS work.
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>>181470402
>just plain ToTG vengeance blood causes ragequits after hungering horde takes care of all their gobbos
whoa
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>>181470194
>blood against blood
>go 2nd
>w-well maybe he bricks

panty raider/teena/australian bouncer should be enough to break tempo on turn 4 though
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>>181466136
I appreciate the time Urias but I'm looking for a full game no a concede.
>>
Emeralda wouldnt be a lethal you retards
>>
why is grimnir considered bad design?
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>>181470528
>>181470494
You banish ToS, everyone loses ward, emeralda and spawn go face
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Is it just me or is conceding taking a fuckton of time to go through?
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>>181470402
it doesn't really, all the decks you needed roar for (aegis/nep/dshift) are gone, and consequently the meta is too fast for it now. you can still win some games on the backs of sibyl/bahamut/grimnir though.
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>>181470494
Emeralda can kill ToS and go face for additional 4
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>>181469426
You're not. It's just /svg/ bitching. We have some balance problems but a lot decks are T1 and T2.
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>>181470594
retards cant play around the gaem
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>>181470332
Joining you in a few minutes. Need that good myself to buy vampy Chan
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>>181470428
There might be a hidden message here
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>>181470494
Emerelda would have destroyed the ward, allowing Cthulhu to punch you in the face for 12 (16) damage and a stormed Emeralda to finish you off with 4 (6) damage.
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>>181470642
>banish
Emeralda destroys, but, yeah, that's right.
>>
Someone post a blood netdeck? I am a brainlet and can't play this game if someone doesn't tell me how!
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>>181470653
Happens to me a lot too, but the game in general has been running way worse since the update
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>>181470642
I don't think destroying ToS removes wards
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>>181470520
The problem is not the early game but that he plays Spawn before you unless he draws bad, and at that point the game is over
>>181470594
Giving board clear/reach to classes that aren't supposed to have it and there being no real reason to not run him.
Basically homogenizing class identity (which is what this whole fucking expansion is about)
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>>181470753
>>
>>181470314
>Dies Irae translated
>Subahibi announced
>Bald Sky announced
>Rance Quest is secret project
Muramasa when?
>>
>>181470813
Did you literally search for "forest bat"?
>>
>>181470768
I think that you should stop trying to think, that's not your forte.
>>
>>181466136
Thanks Vampy!
17/20
I can almost taste the finishline
>>
>>181469310
khawy is actually one of the only counters to blood but nep herself is usually too slow
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>draw all 3 abysses on mulligan
>>
>>181470813
Don't you meme me, you faglord!
>>
>play neutral face dragon
>tfw gryph rider's ability isn't until end of turn shit

Should I drop Eyfa or merman to get me more removals?
>>
>>181470813
Why not add Carabosse?
>>
>>181470740
>>181470730
>>181470662
>>181470642
Oh I thought ToS gave everyone ward and it would stay even if the amulet is gone
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>>181470872
No, just "bat."
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> it only took me two days to reach a measly 1000 points

this meta is fucking retarded
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>>181471025
Jump on the Blood and Haven bandwagon.
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>>181469749
>>181470134
I think the deck got posted in the last thread or something, it's just one version of this guy's deck: https://twitter.com/yushi_lov/media

He also tweeted his latest version which is quite a bit different but I haven't tried it. I'm still switching cards in and out but somehow got this big winstreak.
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>>181471025
What are you using?
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>>181470653
They intentionally changed that because some players were butthurt that they never got to see their ebin super skilled lethals because the opponent just surrendered first wanting to move to the next game.
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>>181471025
Have you actually been playing?
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>>181470753
I put in a rev, but I haven't tested it much yet
Replace with a hungering horde or something if you feel like early game is missing removal
If haven is a problem run 3 abyss
They can only heal for so much
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>>181466136
Thanks Urias!
18/20
Two more, just two!
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I love dying from near full health in one turn
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>>181470813

what does medusa and medusa's gaze have to do with bats?
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>>181471078
Spawn Blood
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>>181471139
They're cute.
>>
Be honest /svg/, do you think SV will survive until end of the year?
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>>181471138
OUTSKILLED
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>>181471135
Yw
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>>181470332

Post yoru code, cause I haven't had a private match in three weeks so I'm sure we haven't rumbled.
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>>181471138
b-but you got albert! howl is honest!
>>
>>181471168
Well you ended up playing a t5 2/1 so there is that.
>>
>>181471231
Only in Japan because of Japanese salarymen love this meta. It'll die in America since the game requires no thought process, and people will go back to HS or move on to Gwent.
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>control blood
>tier 0
>brick half the time and outright lose if going 2nd
I don't get this meme
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>>181466136
Thanks Urias
18/20
I miscounted
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Why does it sound like Prism Priestess is saying "CUM ON MY BODY" in JP? What is she actually trying to say?
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>>181471231
I don't care. I won't be playing it by then.
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>>181471376
>It'll die in America since the game requires no thought process
lol
>>
>>181471231
Yeah it will survive.
>>
>>181471505
>>181471505
>>181471505
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I did it! I won going second against blood!
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>>181466136
Thanks Urias!
19/20
One more, just one more person has to die and this will finally be over!
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Need a concede pls.
28309
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>>181466352
HUE
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>>181470813
>medusa
it's trash
>>
>>181471376
>It'll die in America since the game requires no thought process
same as fucking HS you retard
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>>181471231
Absolutely. I think the meta is shit and I might take a break myself but the people who've already sunk a lot of money into the game will probably keep playing and keep funding it. Games like this can lose 90% of their player base and stay afloat.
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>>181464714
I've been testing this in unraked and it bricks hard. Needing to have to ramp up correctly, while staying alive and clearing the board, plus having to draw your three wincons, and wasting a turn playing windmill makes this a meme tier deck.
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wtf these solo missions aren't worth shit, why would they do this?
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>>181473521
I only reroll 1 win game as x craft with that option
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