/fg/ - Falcom General #9

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Why is she so perfect?

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I am a man whose insight has made me a monster in the eyes of my enemies. I have foreseen the great upheaval of Zemuria and taken advantage of it so thoroughly that there are many who cannot even see me as a mere mortal. To my enemies, I am larger than life, and require extreme measures to handle. After all, if I “know” everything and yet fear nothing, then bold I must be.

So what do I see ahead of Zemuria, now that the great reformation of Erebonia is truly underway?

I see a rising deluge of violence drowning the Empire. Like the great western ocean crashing upon Ordis, this violence grinds and crushes with every surge, each surge speaking cruelty, lunacy, hatred and entropy.

But it is not specifically the Ouroboros that is the herald of destruction. Nor is it the Red Constellation, or the Republic or the sins of fanatics past, or even my own regime.

It is simply the times.

During the era before the Septian calendar, the times toppled civilizations, bringing them from technological supremacy to the brink of annihilation, their inheritors scarcely any better off than the first ancient peoples of our world who discovered fire and tools.

And so the people of our era blindly make that same journey, now standing on the edge of an abyss.

But to call it an abyss is really a great injustice. There are no words to encompass what it is.

There are, by the last known count in modern times, 117,647 different devices and theorized uses of orbal power, a number that vastly understates the full capacity of orbments. Our knowledge is but one part of a whole that is unguessable in size, crowded with a diversity of objects and abilities which defy enumeration.

And to speak plainly, this was the case for our ancestors, as it was for the Goddess herself.

>>181341261
If she's better than Estelle why hasn't she gotten a boyfriend?

>>181341598
She's saving herself for Joshua who'll come around any day now!

>>181341598
She's got a husband and her husband is me.

>Aina drank 36 bottles of the strongest alcohol and didn't get drunk

Does her liver still work?

>>181341594
Ok but seriously though. How the fuck can Osborne just know when some shit is about to happen and plan ahead for a bunch of shit? Lechter mentions that what was happening at the end of Zero, was "according to his plan", but how the hell would he know it was going to happen?
There has to be something more to it, than just an intelligence division and spies.

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>>181341594

Orbal energy cannot be understood. Not by humans, not by divinity, not by machines.

Our scientists and learned men insist on understanding, but their comprehension can only ever be an abstraction, dead figures modeled on the work of dead minds. Theirs is a description that cannot describe the true majesty and horror of the orbment, that exists through life, death and beyond, inside and outside all of us.

And it is the times that have brought the orbment to our lives, and to the lives of our predecessors and their predecessors, like a double helix that cannot be broken.

To the grand flow of history, the collection of nations in Western Zemuria is the greatest civilization of our day, and the most powerful existence to the people who populate these lands from coast to coast.

And yet, to the vastness of the planes that surround our world, all our works are as nothing. It is the latest in a line of realms that stretches back to the first thinking beings.

When I realized this so many years ago, I turned to dread knowledge of what is not of our material realm. There are 7,405,926 gaolers in Gehenna, the demons and fiends who tend to the dead of our world. And to their number, we add the humans who have joined the ranks of hell, both dead and alive, some wholly absorbed into their army and some who have turned this power to their own purpose.

And I knew then that one man is not an army but an army must act with one purpose.

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Post punchable faces

>Someone calls Trails a weeb game
Does this trigger anyone else? It irritates the fuck out of me. As if Trails is just another Neptunia or something.

>>181343106
Depends on which game, I wouldn't be triggered if they said Cold Steel was a weeb game.

>>181343106
Well, Crossbell and Cold steel are pretty weeb in some aspects. Not as much as Neptunia of course, but calling it a weeb game wouldn't be false.

I would classify the whole Joshua crossdressing thing in Sky as such too.

>>181343106
Well CS is worse than Neptunia according to this anon >>181342180 The word weeb has lost all of its meaning, so I don't really care or get triggered by it.

>>181343287
That's just bait. Ignore it.

>>181342047
He could have an artifact the church doesn't know about.

Yay or Nay on the dub?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DHhlSbOm-g

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>>181342319

Consider the armies of the Empire, of the monarchies and republics of our continent. Such fury they can unleash! To the participants, what these armies unleash is a terrifying, roiling chaos of violence, yet it is the pinnacle of our destructive ingenuity where lives are snuffed out. In such combat, a single man is nothing; he is but part of the machine of the army he serves, as essential or otherwise as a cog or a circuit. He works his appointed task and does what he can to take his own life in his own hands, or he fails in his convictions and searches for a way to save himself from this spectacle. A soldier’s task dominates everything, even dictating his fear of death. War and his part in it are the totality of his existence, and there is ultimately no escape from service, even for deserters.

And yet, such a ultimately small thing war is! The battles take place over hundreds of square selge on a setting where the land expands for millions of selge. What is the explosion of a airship? Twinkles in the distance, and silence, a transient fire that extinguishes itself. On the relative scale, war is simply a nugatory flash outshone by history.

This is why the inverse is true and how war is so important. To one man, his life is of utmost importance for we have but one life to spend and we all fear to lose it without gain. And because man loves life so much, nothing has tempted humanity so much like betting lives for a triumph.

It is what every soldier must face, every single person who has served. Life is not truly measured in years but in the deeds of the living.

Do not forget this Rean.

>>181343425
unlike xseed, based nisa gives the option of choosing between Jap and English voices so it doesn't really matter

>>181343545
I don't think that's the point of his question anon. He wants to know if you think the dub sounds nice or not. If you can switch between moon and burg makes no difference to his question.

>>181343634
>caring about the dub when given the option to play with the original voices

>>181343715
Again now the point.

>>181343763
"not the point" i meant.

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>>181343425
Since NIS aren't as jewish and gave dual audio the dub quality is irrelevant.
>tfw NISA couldn't get Cold Steel and we have to hear dub-Alisa, Sara, Millium, and Rean

>>181343106
If someone calls something a weebgame I know they're an ebin ironic weeb and I can safely discard their opinion

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Calvard when?

>>181343425
I'm gonna play it in Japanese so I don't know and care and so should you.

>>181343425
Sounds about average for a niche game dub. I'd be fine with the dub.

I recognise several of the VAs.

How hard is Ao's first few chapters? If it's SC Kurt-tier bullshit then I won't pick Nightmare.

>>181343425
>The graphics look so bad lol, why is this on PS4 when it has PS3 graphics`?

>>181344184
>So should you

Not everyone has ching chong for brains anon.

>>181344401
It should be fine. The sky games were made without the difficulty setting in mind in the original PC versions, which were only implemented in the PSP versions. So everything past that should be times more doable.

I played new run on Zero with nightmare, and i think the only bullshit moment was in the prologue of Zero with the Wald fight having a time limit.

>>181344459
Who gives a shit. Just play the game, it's not like the voices are gonna ruin it.

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>>181342047
Osborne, the Grandmaster, and Cassius are all aware that they're in a time loop and have been living out the same few years constantly, each time doing more and more ridiculous shit to one-up each other

They were all nobodies when it first started, but as they wisened up they started forming organizations and making grand plans with the foresight they now had
The Orpheus Final Plan is just an attempt to end the loop, but it's going to kill people in the process or something so the others want to change/stop it

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>>181342047

Haha. Truly, it is difficult to believe that I can predict such chaotic events no?

I foresaw that the Society would plot to have orbment rendered useless in Liberl. I foresaw what would happen in Crossbell and Calvard. I already was planning for the civil war to make the Reformist faction the winners at the end of it all. I even deceived the Society as to what I would do to them.

It is because I have spent decades in the intelligence quarters of the Imperial Army. When the chips are down and all is said and done, secrecy and double dealing are the currency of those who would oppose me.

What I must seek in order to understand what they actually want is their perspective. And to that end, I must grasp what would be the most expedient method to achieve what they desire.

Many people fail to understand this. For example, there are countless agents and officers who analyze the actions of Ouroboros, always thinking that they are ultimately playing around, engaging in actions that are destructive but not terribly serious on their end. And often their Enforcers and soldiers aren't serious or with the conviction to single mindedly kill their opponents. This spectacle is an effective deception, with many unable to reconcile the mockery with the deep game that Ouroboros plays.

The ignorant man is a danger to himself. The learned man is a danger to all.

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They look like they've being doing some eating.

>>181344659
Cassius's predictions are not that far out there compared to Osborne and the grandmaster. He uses what he knows to form up a plan and counter the problem, Osborn on the other hand somehow knew that the Priest Joachim would use his connections to control the guardian force to attack the city and try to take KeA for himself, or at least the chain of events happening.

Now that i think about it, Lechter is also pretty far out there.

>>181345140
Nothing wrong with a little fat

>>181345140
In my opinion, the only improvement the Evo versions have in comparison to the original, is not making everyone look like a freaking giraffe.

What if Campanella is the avatar of an ancient orbal computer that is also a sept-terrion?

>>181343947
At least dub Altina is pretty good and she's the main heroine this time.

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>>181345439
>main heroine
you wish

>>181345327
and everyone actually has normal hands in evo.

>>181345551
She's just genderbent Kevin

>Ao has voiced dialogue
Please tell me they actually voiced all the important dialogue and not just the prologue.

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>>181345206

"Somehow" is a great injustice I will have you know.

After all, I meant to meet Representative Hartman in order to discern what he was unwittingly hiding with the Revache, what secrets were in Crossbell that he knew nothing about. Not to mention that a man such as him would've compromised himself seriously. What he did is not important, but who knew definitely would be in order to forsee what would happen. And that was as simple as checking his past schedule and investigating abnormal activities at any location he had been at. Buildings do not simply burn down in the 12th century of the calendar because their owner was careless.

The secrecy with which the Cult was extinguished would serve to hide the cult survivor as well as mask the information he would require in order to manufacture the gnosis.

Truth is not so easily extinguished. For those who are capable of catching the scent, there is nothing that can be hidden from us.

>>181345551
Going to turn out to be a pretend slut who was keeping an eye on Rean.

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>>181345551
She ain't even in his class!

>>181343415
Laplace's demon.

>>181344459
>implying it's just for Japanese stuff
Why would anyone prefer a dub over the original language with subs in any media?

>>181347061
Not him, but because most people aren't turbo-autists like you. We prefer actually playing games in a language we understand

>>181347061
Some dubs are really good, if not better. Cowboy Bebop for example.

>>181347171
>in a language we understand
That's why I said to use subs and I'm not just talking about games, I'm talking about movies/anime. The only movies to get dubbed here are children ones, everything else is original language+subs.

>>181347061
Its a game, I generally prefer subs for foreign TV/films but for games the convenience of being able to understand what they're saying wins out as long as its not really shite.

Where can you get more tiger heart accessories in the 3rd? I have two of them at the end of chapter 6 in my JP game, but can't remember where I got the second one from.

>>181347386
99% of people don't watch foreign movies in a language they don't understand, fucktard. I have zero interest in that bullshit. I want to actually get the full experience by enjoying audio in a language I understand. Now fuck off with your autism.

>>181347061
It's rare but I like some dubs for comedy anime like Haganai. The comedic timings are much better when you don't have to read the jokes.

>>181347541
>99% of people don't watch foreign movies in a language they don't understand
Then I guess no one really watches movies in Europe because movies generally just get subs when they're shown at the theaters.

>>181347061
People are allowed to have preferences, you know. I grew up in a place where subs for TV were common and dubs were usually really shitty (like one person doing all the voices with the original still audible in the background). It's stuck with me and I still tend to find dubs awkward, not just English for anime but also shit like Pixar and Disney movies in my native tongue and such. They just sound wrong. But I understand not everyone's like that and I find the dub vs sub wars pointless and tiring.

>>181347541
>t. American
Why do Americans hate reading and always prefer shitty dubs?

I don't understand flat out refusing to use either subs or dubs. Its better to do a case by case basis.

>>181348013
Most people don't. I just prefer the original language when given the option.

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Name your favorite Ys game and Trails game/subseries

https://twitter.com/NISAmerica/status/881208955208212480
Wow

>>181348682
Thats a guy right?

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>>181348682

>>181348775
Every different frame of this reaction makes me rock hard.

>>181348743
No, that's a strong, beautiful woman.

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>>181348682
>NISA
not even once

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>>181348682
I'm gonna be sick.

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>>181348831

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>>181348492
Dawn of Ys, Ao/Crossbell

>>181348492
I don't play Ys. I'm a story gamer, so Ys has no value to me.

And I prefer the Sky games.

>>181348492
sky

>>181346075
They didn't, but there's a lot more than there was in Zero. It also tends to show up in surprising places. ch 2 Shirley gets a lot of voiced lines out of nowhere, for example. Which I'm a big fan of.

I think we can all agree that if the games weren't japanese this community would be a lot better without the fucking weebs.

>>181349705
Rude

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>>181348492
Ys Origin
3rd

>>181349860
If there were no more weebs:
>No more shitty dual audio crying
>No more pandering to the weebs with CS and their harem/school shit

>>181350207
Sounds nice

>>181349294
>I'm a story gamer
Careful not to tip that trilby too hard.

>>181350298
Does it trigger you that someone plays games for different reasons? Time to grow up kiddo.

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>>181349294
>>181350465
>story gamer
>gamer
>kiddo
I think you need to go back.

>>181350465
Legends tell of objects referred to as "books".

>>181350716
Really, tell me which books include gameplay, music, and graphics?

>>181350667
Uh, no, the one who needs to go back (to NintendoGAF) is you. Now fuck off, kid.

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>>181347061
When the original was so bad that the creators made more bank from a gag dub that they themselves said was okay.

Honestly to me, its just down to the one that I heard first.

did someone link this general in the falcom discord or something?

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>>181349912
I liked the goddess designs in Origin

>>181349294
> I'm a story gamer
>>181350837
>Tell me which books include gameplay, music, and graphics?
Better keep your story straight.

>>181350998
Wow it's almost as if it's not JUST the story I like, but the combination of story, gameplay, graphics, and music. GASP!! Who would've thought??

>>181350894
For anime my rule is if the dub is good and the names are all western I'll watch it in dub, otherwise I'll watch the sub.

>>181350837
Are you sure you're not from reddit who lost his way on the way there?

>>181350964
It's weekend

>>181351041
Then why not play Ys?

>tfw everyone in this argument is being a twat
I don't know who to root for lads!

Why the fuck is there a retard in a falcom thread attacking people who like story in games? This is some next-level retardation

>>181351041
>moving goalposts
>GASP!!
jesus christ. off yourself

>>181351190
because he's a story gamer :^)

>>181351238
There are no goalposts being moved, you absolute retard. Are you mentally incapable of realizing that the word GAMER suggests VIDEO GAMES and that VIDEO GAMES suggest gameplay, music, and graphics? Therefore, being a STORY GAMER means being someone who likes VIDEO GAMES for the STORY.

It's not hard to figure out. Well, maybe for you it is.

>>181351216
>This is some next-level retardation
welcome to /fg/

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Best girl coming through....!!!

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>>181351216
Wouldn't be 4chan without bored kids getting into fights over fucking nothing

>>181351216
>referring to yourself as a story gamer
You're not fooling anyone, anon, so stop samefagging. We know it's you.

>>181351216
Kinda defeats the purpose of being in a falcom thread if you refuse to play a falcom game because you assume there's no story.

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>these homewrecking tomboys
When will they learn?

>>181351216
Because someone baited by implying Ys doesn't have story, anon

You're underestimating what level the retardation is actually on here

>>181351331
Because nobody refer to themselves as a "gamer" around here, lad.

>>181351383
Actually best girl is in the OP

>>181351331
You're a newfag. That's what you are.

>>181351383
Why is she wet but the bag isn't?

>>181351613
Yeah I'm a newfag who has only been on 4chan since 2006. Fuck off.

>>181351642
I've been here since 1876! Newfag.

>>181351642
>using that as your proof
kek

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>>181351504
Hahaha... but lets be serious now.

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>>181348682

>>181351752
I was being serious JOSETTE is best girl

>>181351752
>Can't land a boyfriend
She's pretty pathetic.

>>181352013
She's trapped in Lloyd's harem field and there's no escape.

>>181351720
>falcom games are double homo
Doesn't that make them straight?

>>181352043
Will she be free when it collapses into Elie?

>>181352043
Whats worse, Reans or Lloyds harem field? What happens if a girl falls into the venn diagram between them?

this general has a lot of fucking autistics motherfuckers
>Nisafags
>xseedfags
>dubfags
>lolicons
>reanfags
>anti cs
>crossbellfags
>weebs
>story gamers
>waifus wars
why can't we have a decent thread? :(

>>181352149
Waifuwars are fine as they're tongue in cheek and just a bit of fun.

>>181352149
>lolicons and crossbellfags are bad
you are the problem

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>>181352149
Blame the weebs.

>>181352147
To be fair, in Lloyd's case it's intentional, while with Rean, the girls are trapped with no love interest because the player may choose to pursue then, even if otherwise they don't have an interest in him romantically, without the events.

>Tried to find some comfy Crossbell wallpaper in google
>Get spoiled
Damn, and I've been doing well so far too.

>>181352202
I'm with you, they are the least of our problems, the story gamers are the worst part.

i did read somewhere that zero/ao spoil some events for the cold steel games even tho they came out later, should i just wait for cold steel on pc since its coming this month before i play zero/ao?

>le burning heart man

>>181352441
Zero/ao take place around the same time as CS.
CS will spoil some of Zero/ao.

>>181352441
Ao doesn't just spoil "some events," it literally tells you what happens in the Cold Steel games. If you play Ao before Cold Steel, then you know exactly what you're getting yourself into. On the other hand, the only thing Cold Steel really "spoils" about Crossbell is the fact that the azure tree is a thing.

>>181352441
Zero is the most standalone Trails game with Renne's arc forcefully added to give an illusion of a pre-planned story.
Ao happened at the same time of CS1 and CS2, and yes they spoil each other. But Ao spoil CS more than CS spoil Ao.

>>181352441
don't listen to this guy >>181352578,
you should play the games on release order

>>181352441
You can play Zero safely without getting spoiled on cold steel, but you cannot play Ao.

>>181352578
Well CS2 does spoil who one of the bads in Ao is. And Rixia but Zero barely bothered keeping that a secret anyway.

>>181352702
Ao spoils the shit out of Cold Steel 1's ending.

>>181352743
If they didn't use the same goddamn voice actor and didn't have that early reveal, could have been more interesting.

>>181352841
They could've filtered that shit like they did with C.

>>181352935
>R

>>181352935
Anything other than making your voice slightly deeper.

>>181352441
Spoilers won't ruin the story if it's actually good. CS is shit, so there's no entertainment value left if you remove the tweeest gimmick.

>>181353337
That's funny considering crossbell is the one that relies on a million plot twists.

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I wouldn't really consider some of the facts present in Ao to be spoilers, it's more like intentional info dumps, that make you wonder "wait, how the fuck did that happen?" and then you keep on edge while playing Cold steel wondering when it will happen.

>>181353714
Elie is cute, CUTE

>>181353714
They are spoilers. Ao spoils EVERYTHING about cold steel 1's ending.

>>181353337
here is an anti cs fag

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>>181353761
She's so cute Lloyd couldn't help entering Chad mode for her in Zero. Too bad the speaker destroyed the mood.

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>>181353714
Every picture of them being a giant family is the best thing.

>>181353910
Elie is cute, CUTE here too

>>181353820
Dumb phoneposter

>>181353910
Tios obsession with michey is out of control.

>>181353870
I don't think anyone would be able of resisting!

>>181353910
KeA is so lewd

>>181353910
here is a crossbell fag

>>181353714
Pussy bread?

>>181344659
if this is the big kiseki twist i'm never buying a falcom game again

>>181353820
>>181354165
here is a faggot

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>>181354208

Is it possible to get earth wall on Estelle in chapter 2? I'm playing SC.

>>181354437
I'm not sure if it's possible by that point. Just check the quartz you have and try to reach the requirements.

>>181354427
Forget about that Tio slut, I want to fug that cutie shopkeeper in the bakcgorund

>>181356227
I never actually noticed much about the shop keeper in the back, but now that you've pointed her out, yeah, she's cute as fuck.

>>181356227
I want to fug Elie who is not in the screenshot

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Tio is cuter.

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>>181356493
Elie is cutest

>>181347061
This thread is filled with dubfags. Give up.

Estelle and Joshua's dialogue in Zero's final chapter felt really tacked on. Like they weren't originally there, but the devs are forced to include them for some reason.

>>181351642
>2006
Lurk more. I bet you loved moot.

>>181356707
um no. Estelle and Joshua being there is an essential part of the plot for the entire crossbell saga. Keep playing.

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>>181356227
She's cute.

>>181353910
I want to molest KeA.

>>181356968
Why is Noel so embarrassed?

>>181357104
Yeah but
>pointy knees, 6/10

>>181356968
What is going on with KeAs legs in this art?

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Inshalla we will kill the infidels with our jihad

>>181356889
I get that without both of them present,Renne won't help SSS, but that means they're just a cheap plot device. I doubt there will be good enough explanation for something meta like this, but okay.

>>181357403
Looks like the artist forgot to finish them.

>>181357403
KeA is an amputee

>>181357489
The SSS helped Renne out without Estelle and Joshua's help, She probably would have been there weather they were or not.

>>181357641
>[/spoiler]She probably would have been there weather they were or not.[/spoiler]
Not only is this *not* true, but Ao specifically contradicts this claim.

>>181357703
She went to crossbell because she knew Estelle and Joshua were looking for her in crossbell?

>>181357703
nice spoiler tag faggot

>>181357816
Ao specifically contradicts the claim that Renne would have been there in the absence of a relationship between the SSS and Estelle and Joshua

>>181345551
I honestly want to see how Rean reacts to her seduction. Alfin was always a bit more of a tease to him but it sounds like Muse takes up to the next level.

>>181349040
So that dog is cool with KeA too? Is it like Metal Gear Revengeance where blade wolf was only nice to Sunny?

>>181356227
Sorry, she belongs to Oscar the baker, in her eternal feud for the best bread.

>>181358248
Anon, you keep asking questions about KeA, why not play the game? We're not going to spoil everything about KeA for you.

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YFW Estelle is the grandmaster.

>>181358419
The Grandmaster is actually Tio from Rolent

>sword of abbadon activates on a critical move
>no s crafts ready
fug

Speaking of the Grandmaster what are your theories on who it is? I recall it being mentioned that the Grandmaster has been lightly hinted at already. I'm only missing Ao so I figure it's been hinted in that game.

>>181358702
Its dorothy

>>181358702
Apparently it's someone we've seen already, before Cold steel games, the drama CD where Campanella and her talk has the Grandmaster with a female voice apparently, and CS3 will give a big hint towards their identity apparently.

>>181358702
The two most plausible theories I've heard are Aidios and Ein Selnate

>>181358880
Is Campanella talking directly to her? or over the monitor dealie like in 3rd?

>>181358702
It's Dorothy. She's everywhere, even in Joshua's solo section. That and she suspiciously boarded the wrong plane and ended up staying in Calvard for two weeks.
I know she's a gag character, but still.

>>181359195
Dorothy being the grand master is joke until you actually think about it

>>181359112
I'm not sure. I assume it's on a monitor, or else there wouldn't be any masking of the voice, which i think it's too much of a hint. All i know is that their voice sounds female in it.

>>181359195
Don't forget traversing the old school's basement full of monsters and showing up where Phantom thief B was.

I HOLD IN MY LIGHT A CHALICE OF HEAVEN, MAY ITS HOLIEST OF LIGHT ACT AS OUR SHIELD

>>181359195
Eh don't you see her as a goofy kid in one of the doors in the 3rd?

>>181359328
Poor Kevin having his hands replaced with light, must be hard to hold his chalice of heaven.

>>181359462
Its part of his stigma

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What the fuck was her problem? And why won't Randy headpat her?

>>181359426
Just as a massive Jaegar operation is taking place in Grancel. Bit of an odd coincidence don't you think

>>181358938
Isn't the grandmaster kinda sad that Weissman gets killed by Kevin? Why would Selnate send Kevin to kill Weissman? Also, wouldn't Ouroboros know who Kevin was if it was her?

>>181359635
>Putting hand on crazy.
Not even once.

>>181359635
She's bloodthirsty and psycho, and Randy is probably justifiably scared of her. They grew up together, he's probably seen some of the worst stuff she's done.

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>>181359875
>>181359927
She helped me find a lost kitten yesterday and was very sweet throughout. Sure she threatened to murder some dudes but they were real pricks.

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>>181360101
Shirley is a good girl, a real contender for best girl of crossbell IMO. I like her a lot.

>>181360101
Did...that actually happen?

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>managed to steal a tank from the middle of a research facility
wew

>>181360945
It happens in Ao. Shirley is a real cutie.

In the beginning, there were two great gods.

One boasted unrivaled courage,

the other unparalleled fortitude.

They descended from the heavens with their kin,

and it was upon the dark land below that they first met.

Calamity. Their opposing natures incompatible,

the two were drawn irresistibly into battle,

and thus began a struggle that shook heaven and earth.

The Goddess and the spirits' laments were for naught.

As the land quaked, the skies were torn asunder,

and the gods' kin could only tremble in fear.

After what seemed like an eternity, their clash came to an end.

...But it was an end of mutual defeat.

Their power spent, the empty shells of the two celestial titans were flung into the furthest reaches of the dark land.

All that remained were terrible:

their kin...

...and the Great Power.

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Did she tease Walter the same way she teased Zin?

>>181362014
>that uniform
>those legs
>those heels
>that hair
>that expression
Fucking hell.

>>181361921
>Putting stuff mentioned in the main story only on New Game +

Has anymore interviews with Kondo popped up yet?

Aster house feels pretty nostalgic which is impressive for somewhere we've never been

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This things shows up in the bar, and your waifu slaps and kills it. What do?

>>181364123
>your waifu slaps and kills
Is my waifu Shirley? because that sounds like Shirley.

>the kevin backstory
Thats darker than I expected

>>181359195
Don't forget that Weissman was also a joke character until the end of FC too. Coincidence?

>>181364620
Everyone except for Tita has had something bad happen to them.

>>181364820
Being nearly killed by his own mother in a murder suicide and then later killing his surrogate mother is pretty high up on the dark trails backstories scale.

>>181363349
Yeah it was pretty dumb. Hiding juicy stuff behind optional (especially newgame+) scenes is lame.

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Didn't expect this

>>181366359
Really? Phantasma was created using Kevins memories. I didn't really see it as a twist, more of Kevin realizing it.

>>181366797
I was expecting Celeste to change into Rufina and the lord to be someone he'd stopped in the past like saltman, not Rufina Kevin realised it fairly early on though.

>>181366797
Should say, coming to terms with it, he already knew.

Could Grianos be the Erebonian counterpart of Ragnard and Zeit? How did Vita get acquainted with the bird anyway?

>>181367361
It's dead so no

Should i try to play Ao with the spreadsheet?

>>181367597
If you want to.

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Its slightly horrifying that it generated a hell filled with people actually being eternally tormented with actual fully conscious minds

>>181368193
Notice how the chests in there are not trying to be funny anymore.

>all the chests in gehenna just say the chest is empty when checked again
I guess thats to signal that its at a serious point.

>>181369713
Huh, I post this >>181369723 just as you're posting that. Odd coincidence.

It just keeps getting darker, the fucking child.

>>181367597
I have beaten ao with the spreadsheet, you get used to it quite fast.

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fucking hell

>>181370389
Literally.

How do I rotate the camera in zero with psspp keyboard controls?

>>181372074
You don't. There's no rotatable camera in the Crossbell games outside of battles.

>>181372074
That can only be done during battle by using R and L. Camera is fixed while walking around.

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So when do Randy and Murielle get together?

>>181372459
>>181372471

Ah okay then. Just wondering.

Just did the nepenthes G quest, Fucking abyss worms make a return here too >.<

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>>181372008
She can't keep getting away with it!

>>181373574

Also did they fix the art damage scaling that makes high level spells not worth it to cast?

>>181374090
Yes. The more EP they cost the more damage they do.

>>181374090
Yeah, the main issue in Zero is that the biggest EP healing item is only 300.

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>>181373610
Her ass and titties are out of control.

https://kisekicrack.sanctuarycrew.com/2015/10/01/mascot-or-mastermind/#more-215

>>181376105
Its just Kondos waifu.

>>181364820
Tita had slight parental abandonment, since her parents are constantly gone doing science shit.

Gaius is the true untragic figure.

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>>181375247

>>181377520
>Gaius is the true untragic figure.
That will have to change if he ever wants his stigma awakened so he can take his place among the gralsritter

>>181377520
At least they are alive, unlike the parents of like 90% of the cast.

>Its another Phantom Thief B steals something mission
Does this guy ever stop?

>>181378754
no

He'll probably be in Calvard, too

>>181341880
There is no liver, just a void.

>bought Trails of Cold Steel on a whim
>Zero knowledge of the setting and low expectations
>Wind up really liking the game and the setting
>Final boss was a let down. Feel pretty underwhelmed
>Then all the shit at Valflame palace goes down
>Suddenly giant robots and robot fights
>Rean gets not-Cybuster and summons it

Goddamn, that was a finale. Literally had to get the second one right after I beat the first one.

Why is there so little fanart of the guys? Let alone any character. I'd kill to see good lewds of him or Sharon.

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>>181380095
There's plenty of fanart anon-kun. It's just CS upped the waifu factor and there naturally will be more fanart with the girls.

>>181380095
>Literally had to get the second one right after I beat the first one.
If there's one thing Trails does very well, it is cliffhanger endings in the first game of a story arc.

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>>181380095
Now you should play the older games in the series. It's all connected.

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>>181375247
>>181377602

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I don't care what y'all say, Cold Steel 3 is going to be HYPE AS FUCK. We've got 2 sept-terrions and a whole bunch of cool shit to look forward to and I couldn't be more looking forward to what we end up getting.

>>181380731
>2 sept-terrions

I know about fire, what is the other?

>>181380867
Nobody knows, but the black records (see >>181361921) suggest it might be water

>>181380253

I guess I meant cute/sexy fanart. There's plenty of pretty vanilla doujins on sadpanda, but nothing really sexy.

>>181380095
>Literally had to get the second one right after I beat the first one.
Love it when this happens

What are the chances of a Cold Steel 4? Do you really think they'll be able to resolve both sept-terrions in one game?

>>181381306
Zero didn't really have a big cliff hanger, but CS literally had a dramatic finale that ended before there was any conclusion.

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>>181380095
>People like this guy unironically don't even know what the series is about yet
I'm glad you like the games but it's kinda funny how you will finish Cold Steel 2 and still not know what the Trails series as a whole is actually about.

>>181381445
It'll keep going until Cold Steel 6, after which Falcom will go bankrupt and leave the series unfinished forever

That is, until in 2035 when japanese indie devs try their hand at unofficially making a finale to the series, which turns out to be what no fan ever wished for and goes full Xenosaga on the unresolved plot threads, with Cassius turning out to be an alien, Ouroboros' final plan being just a prank bro, and the true final boss is the ultimate sept-terrion made of all the sept-terrions fusing into a megazord with all the hardcore badass characters like Osborne and Estelle piloting one of its limbs
Once released, it turns out to be so bad that longtime Kiseki fans livestream themselves jumping in front of moving trains and other shit like that which will have become more common due to lax future morals

>>181382045
cool story bro. anything else you wanna add? Maybe something about NISA or dual audio? Or a mythical reanfag?

>>181381786

I'm sorry I haven't played the rest of the entries in a series of JRPGs that are relatively obscure in the West.

There are plenty of people who jumped onto other franchises with late installments in stuff though.

I do plan on playing some of the other entries when I finish.

>>181382198
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying it's funny.

If Dorothy is the Grandmaster what about Nial?

>>181382315
And it's going to be like this for percentage of the PC crowd who'll inevitably discover the series this way. CS ain't the worst way to start but goddamn was SC Olivier's reveal pretty great.

>>181382353
he's enforcer -1

>>181382353
He would have to be a disguised campanella.

>>181382409
I just find it amusing that, through 2 games so far, the Cold Steel series has barely even touched on the main concept that the Trails games are centered on. It's like if Sky FC was split up into 2 games.

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>>181382528
CS3 has to pay us back doubly so.

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Linecon 2017 redeemed. New in box, $42.

Retro Saikou, they have one left, be FAST tomorrow.

>>181382652
When I started FC, I never would've thought that a Vander would ever become a starring character in a Trails game. What a crazy world we live in.

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Juna doujins when

>>181382843
After SC, I didn't think Zechs would be all that much of a cool guy. Nor did I think he of all people needed to be saved from a pack of animals.

Fucking cyclopses

>>181382652
Those are some dangerously short skirts, they cover like 5 centimeters lower than their top

>>181382652
>class VII not even in the boxart

>>181383143
But Class VII IS on the boxart, anon. Just not the old Class VII. :3

>>181382652
What is up with that dumbass weapon Ash is carrying? That is the weirdest most inexplicable thing I've ever seen.

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>>181383518
Some techno-halberd type thing with apparently chain+sickle function. I at least appreciate the fact that the change in times Zemuria is going through is reflected in the weapons too with the whole gun-tonfa thing Juna has.

>>181382652
Who is going to betray us in this game? It's a Trails game so someone's gotta do it.

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>>181384291
Rean's mixed blood acts up and he becomes the traitor.

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I want a game where no one's holding back.

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>>181385423
That would be Cold Steel 3. There's even a special enhanced mode feature that makes bosses get critical hits 100% of the time because they're not holding back anymore.

Holding back is over.

>>181382652

I still get a laugh out of that guy who's literally just a blueberry-flavored Jusis.

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>>181385646
We have cherry flavor now too. Jokes aside, I'm expecting a lot from Kurt.

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If anyone's curious about Elie's bonding event at the end of Zero and didn't bother to play again, here's a save right in front her for it.

https://u.nya.is/gyxrzu.rar

The paste's name will occupy the second save slot, although i THINK you can just copy paste the contents inside of it into any other save you're fine with covering. You have to go into PPSSPP/memstick/PSP/SAVEDATA

>>181386093
Oh yeah, also the entire back alley doctor collection is on that save, if you're interested in reading it.

Anyone else really excited to see how Olivert will interact with Kurt? He grew up with Mueller so logically he'd know Kurt right? And Kurt looks like the kind of guy who'd get embarassed as fuck by Olivert.

>>181361921
I honestly thought the writer of the Suikoden series went to work for Falcom after the Konami debacle.

>>181386230
I'm more interested in how he interacts with Juna, particularly if he gives her the sword of a vander and colonizes her womb with his Erebonian seed.

>>181386380
SWORD OF VANDER IN THE IBC

>>181385538
>bosses get critical hits 100%

Why not just make them stronger so when they do crit its even more damage?

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After days of sidequests I've finally made it. Getting hype

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>English Rean is giant furry
How does this make you feel anons

So based of Kondo's comments from all the interviews. Does that pretty much confirm we're getting Cold Steel 3? Or is it just PR speak.

>>181387034
We already know we're definitely getting Cold Steel 3.

>>181387034
There was never any doubt. We will absolutely get Cold Steel 3. Even if xseed goes out of business tomorrow, someone else would definitely pick it up. Every game even remotely worthwhile gets localized these days.

>>181387194
But Cold Steel is the 3rd game in a series. And sequels let alone third sequels always sell pitifully compared in comparison.

>>181387261
Enough of this nonsense. Cold Steel has sold well in the west and we're getting CS3. If there's any game in the series that is guaranteed, it is that one.

>>181386963
Bad

>>181387261
NISA is publishing a Ys with the number 8 in the title, dude. And they wanted it bad enough to undercut xseed for it. Western publishers are picking up doujin games at this point. EVERYTHING that isn't insanely skeevy gets released in the west now.

>>181381786
What is the Trails series as a whole about?

>>181387685
Headpats and holding back are the core themes of the series

>>181387685
Ouroboros's pursuit of the seven treasures allegedly gifted by Aidios.

>>181387735
And people in glasses being evil.

>>181387663
>undercut xseed for it
I'm actually curious to why they suddenly wanted Ys. It's not like they had no opportunity before like I'd expect them to try to nab Memories of Celceta and port it to PC.

>>181387786
But CS1 did that

>>181387685
NPC autism

Post characters that didn't or couldn't hold back

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>>181387981

>>181382985
>I'm off to kill the empire scum!
>Bai bai onee-chan!

>>181386963

For a guy with a reasonably badass-sounding voice, he looks hella faggy.

Let's talk about Rean's ogre powers. Was he born with it? Is he a gnosis baby?

Anyone see more gameplay on Ys? How's Nis doing on the translation?

>>181386963
Amused cuz now i'm imagine Rean in a Falcon Costume

>>181388358
Pretty safe to assume it has to do with the big ass scar on his chest.

>>181386963

>IMDB says he has a "Thanks" credit in Undertale

He's giving Chris Patton (Sagara from FMP, Ayato from RahXephon, amongst other roles) a run for his money as far as faggotry goes.

>>181388358
I don't think it's gnosis because he is supposedly "mixed" with something. One theory I like is that "mixed" means mixed with the blood of the dark dragon Zoro-Argura which terrorized heimdallr in the past

>>181387343
Why is it nonsense? It's the third game of a series that has it's previous game exclusive only to ps3 and pc. Sony fans won't be able to pay 1+2. If it weren't a story heavy game it'd pass but playing CS 3 would be like playing Second Chapter without FC.

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>>181388736
It's hilarious how many Zoro theories there are

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I'm done responding to obvious concern trolling bait posts.

Post a cute.

>Lloyd and Rean have harems
>Olivier doesn't
It's not fair

Kondo on anime expo twitch stream in 30 minutes

>>181389664
It's the power of the protagonist, anon. Wait until Olivier gets his own game.

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>>181389541

>>181389673
Speaking in general or for NISA? Because apparently one interviewer wasn't allowed to as Kondo anything about XSeed or Kiseki as per NISA.

>>181390012
I mean yeah it's about Ys.

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So he really was sent to Jenis by Osbourne. Figured, but nice to have it confirmed.

What if it turns out that Rean has the sept-terrion of fire INSIDE HIM? Would explain the scar.

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>>181386963

>>181390357
That would be a really weak sept-terrion then. Not to say that Rean is that weak but you would imagine he would be stronger.

>>181390642
He's holding back.