/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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PARTAKE

Any pcbros need help?

>>181157817
Help me with gael? sl1/+0.
You have to let me get the last hit on him.

>>181158089
If you were serious i'd be in, no kidding.

>>181157817
Wanna help me kill Aava? SOTFS SM 2.6

What's the most Morrowind armor combo?

>>181158314
>He plays ds2

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>>181157335
>the First Sin is Gywn linking the flame
>not the Witch of Izalith trying to remake the First Flame
>The Scholar of the First Sin looks like a chaos tree monster and uses chaos lava attacks

Hi Vatti.

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>>181158593
I like it.

>>181158681
Aw, you poor thing. I hope you get well soon.

>>181158681
>>181158932
Fuck i just gave luci a reason to return, im so sorry.

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>>181158664
>Aldia popping out to say high at random bonfires
every time I play DaS2 I forget one and then it makes me fucking shit myself when the bonfire goddamn explodes and sends me flying

>>181159083
>acknowledging the tripfage
take a leaf from /bbg/ and literally just ignore it entirely, tripfags are like a bad smell, ignore them and they'll go away eventually

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What is the best talisman for 60 faith? Saints? I'm primarily looking to heal, I've got Yorkshas for buffs already.

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>>181159083
That's okay, anon. I forgive you. I have him filtered anyway.

I've been idling for 4 hours at 25+2 with Blue Sentinels on and I haven't been summoned.

>>181159559

oh man, that's a good way to keep dumbass hosts alive through that

>>181159559
Just use Yorshka's for heals as well? Or the branch one for a faster cast speed without needing the sage ring.

>>181159559
Stock. Saint's gets staggered out of casting so easily it may as well be a chime without the Gentle Prayer WA.

>invade at SL55 +6 in central irithyll
>host and a phantom
>fight them, kill the phantom
>blue shows up
>fight host and blue for awhile, kill blue
>two fucking blues show up
>kill both blues
>still 1v3'ing
>somehow every time I killed a blue another immediately spawned in
>EVEN DESPITE ALL OF THIS, kill the host with 6 of 7 estus at the end of it all

Jesus fucking christ I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Gotta say feels fulfilling as fuck on my end though doing that all by myself, at least.

also tfw you post something just before the "new thread" post

>>181159792
>>181159767
Neato, thanks.

>>181159721
Yeah just tossing PH at the boss itself is pretty handy.

>>181159947
What level are you staying at for co-op? Seems like it'd be fun

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I want to git gudder at PvP in DaS3. What are some more educational YouTube channels to look at?

>bought sotfs on steam sale
>steam keeps trying to get me to buy vanilla das2 since it's a "similar game"

>>181159878
>Gotta say feels fulfilling as fuck on my end though doing that all by myself, at least.

Congrats. You have arrived. That is why people like invading in DaS3 or gank hunting in DaS1.

>>181157423
source on that hotaru pic?

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>>181159997
That character is 60. But I've got a sl 120 Faith character as well, and I'd like to get better at healing people during Gael since that fight is a slog when a phantom dies early.

>>181160094
>accept nekopara as a meme gift from a friend
>my steam recommendations and queues are all full of random weebshit now
STOP

>>181157335
>My flame is yours for the taking, but you have to find it first! I left everything I own in the Kiln of the first Flame ."
Ever since, mighty Individuals from all ages depart for Anor Londo, searching for the Lordvessel, the artifact that would make their dreams come true!

>>181160227
>>181159559
cute fashion

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>>181160475
Thanks, although I'm not wild about the cleavage. Pale Shade mask is GOAT.

>>181158681
>Furry pedophile
>Likes Dark Souls 2
Adds up

>>181160170

Honestly never understood the fun in being part of the gank, though. I've actually done it once or twice with friends and it just feels boring and too easy, we're actually good at the game with twinked out PvP builds so we just put people through the meat grinder like it's nothing, just seems lame.

Fighting never-ending waves of blues with a host that actually tries to progress through the level and the mobs is fucking sweet, though. Intense as fuck, I love it. It's those fuckfaces who just sit there and expect you to just 1v3 them and never try to progress through the level that really kill my boner, though. Just sitting there for 10 minutes staring at each other, all I can say is at least thank the lord they nerfed the shit out of the giant seed.

Where's that qt trap at who wanted to 2v2?

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>>181160578
The cleavage is the best thing about that chest piece though.

>>181160859
Different strokes, anon. Nice character, though.

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1 like = 1 point in vig

>>181160089

Unironically Scott Jund's channel (DamnNoHtml) is quite good, he has both a combination of weapon-specific videos as well as ones where he'd just do duels in post-pontiff and narrate them for hours on end.

A lot of his stuff is out of date (considering patches and such), granted, but most "big" names have left the community a long time ago. For the most part it's just about educating yourself on all of the weapons and mechanics in the game and their strengths/weaknesses, and learning about timing and spacing. Invasions are what you do after you've honor dueled for a few hundred hours and it becomes boring because you just smash most people, and mostly involve using some form of hornet parry one-shot, miracle buff wombo combo, poise hyper armor, using the level/mobs, or some combination of these.

>>181160780

hosts of the second type are just unskilled enough that they have a severely incorrect perspective on who's at advantage in that situation. they won't leave the bonfire because they feel like it's impossible to kill an invader when you're also fighting enemies, even though everyone else knows that if you have two/three phantoms and proceed carefully you can absolutely clear out a level while fending off an invader or two.

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>>181160780
Honestly I feel like you shouldn't even feel ashamed at BCing out of the setup ganks. And I don't mean the:
>I invaded a host who happened to have a phantom or two summoned, gank GANK WAAAAAH!
I mean the ones where the level has been completely cleared of enemies and the host and his 2 or 3 geared up friends are sitting at the bonfire continually resummoning whenever one of them happens to die. Sure it can be fun to play the odds every so often, but if the people are any sort of good you'll get, as you put it, put through the grinder.

>>181161254
I just make them burn some estus and then BC out.

>>181161254

if there's only two phantoms i always just go hide somewhere, set down my controller and do something else. i think the most fitting punishment for gankers is boredom.

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>>181160697
>furry pedophile
What?

>>181157335
What are the most remarkable NPCs in the series?
NPCs you would recognize by their gauntlets?
I would say Solaire, Kirk, Siegmeyer/ward, Creighton.
Leonhard or Heysel?

>>181161410
This, especially with the White Branch in Farron Keep. They'll never find you.

>>181160780
I would just run into the level and sit by the boss fog when I ran into real gankers. That way they could never use the bonfire and I would take up an invader slot. Eventually, other phantoms would force them to use up all their estus, and they would have to try to progress or pull the plug to replenish their estus.

I ganked once in DaS3. I was trying to help some friends progress through the Cathedral, and we were getting instant non-stop invasions. We basically started ganking in frustration.

All the doors except the front one were closed. I had the host stand by the bonfire while the phantoms all huddled around the bonfire.

The invaders would think the invaded an AFK host and rush him. At that point, me, another, phantom and the host would swarm him. They would always turn to try to run back into the safety of enemies, only to spot a 3rd phantom standing in the doorway doing nothing but blocking with a great shield.

There should be a ring or something that allows reds to not be able to hit each other. Part of the problem when taking on gankfags is the phantoms can just swing at will. Reds have to be extra careful.

>>181161254

That's basically what I do tbqh. If I'm in the mood I'll terrorize them with obscuring ring and MW greatbow with an offhand simple caestus for infinite rocket launching fun. If the level is legit cleared out then if they actually start trying to run at me in that situation I just run away, then if they go back to the bonfire I go back and shoot them a couple more times. It's nice because they don't get to play the game while I'm there but also they can't go AFK because of my explosions.

If they keep going back to resummon but they keep actually progressing through the waves of mobs I'm cool with it though. I have certain alternate win conditions in my mind generally, like killing a certain number of phantoms counts as a win or using all of my estus and then surviving to crystal out counts as a win, but as long as they keep trying to progress then if I can drag them through every mob in the level and make it take that much longer but they finally make it to the boss fog anyways, I count that as a win.

Alternatively I've had newbie host kills or reverse gank easy shit where I get the ember or dregs or whatever but I don't really consider it a "win" per-say. The super easy lame shit. I've stopped doing post-pontiff for mid level invasions because I run into that shit too often unfortunately, central irithyll is way better, so many blue babbies. Don't even need friends to gank anymore, just throw on way of the baby and boom, instant gank squad that resummons itself over and over.

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>>181161641

This should've been a functionality of Sunbro invasions. If you're going to give them a different invader color, might as well let them be allied with each other.

>>181161567

While we're on the subject: what is the best SL and WL to invade farron keep at? I've spent so much time in the usual places but honestly have never invaded the swamp ever, I'm kinda interested in trying. One of the few places I've never invaded, mostly because the poison and slow moving areas are annoying as fuck, but I figure if I just carry a 99 stack of purple moss on me it would probably be fine.

Is it like, a SL35 +4 kind of place or a SL55 +6 kind of place?

>>181162184
I get pretty constant activity at sl20 +2 but I haven't really tried it with others. Ages ago before they changed the range on stuff, I would get action at sl32 +4 but thats probably way too high now.

I need a good place to farm out a shit ton of titanite chunks in dark souls 3 i have all areas available to me, any ideas?

>>181162184
At SL25+2 I got fairly regular bluecop summons into Crux Woods, and at the same range I could grapist invade into Crux Woods and Cathedral with high reliability.

I imagine that you'll want to be around SL30+3 for invading into the poison swamp itself, just so you don't have a crippling level disadvantage because of the 20 level upsearch.

>>181162315

Really? I used to invade crux woods all the time with my SL35 +4, been doing 55 for so long now so it's been a while (strikes a good balance between comfy and challening, I feel), but still. Either sounds like a low level invasion area so I guess I'll go with that.

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Why do people get upset about the end of the dlc not having closure when the end of the series was already done with the end of the main game?

>>181163214
Because it was badly handled. I like the DLC but I'm not going to suck it off and pretend it was done well.

>>181163478
All the buildup to the mythical Dark Soul, and we get a demonic Santa Claus with a bad attitude with the Pygmies more or less nowhere in sight

What infusion do I do for the corvian greatknife? This thing is so fucking fun to use, I am currently doing it in a quality build but the refined infusion looks a bit weak. I guess I could run naked with a flynn ring or something and give it a raw infusion and then give myself max int and buff it?

>>181163746
I didn't have a problem with the fight itself, I had a problem with you chucking the blood at the painter and her going lol thanks.

>>181163214
because it didn't feel like it's own story, gael wasn't built up enough

>>181163746
What's wrong with Santa?

>>181163867
That was the bigger issue, yes. I really felt like Gael should have had a larger presence besides playing hide-and-seek with messages in the Dreg Heap, he felt like a Literally Who coming out of nowhere.
Apparently he's classified as Hollow later in his fight, any idea why? Is it because of the Dark Soul?
>>181163990
I don't have a problem with Santa, I have a problem with fighting him

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>>181163867
I know that feel, I wanted to kiss her or at least get a pygmie footjob.

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>>181160089

InfernoPlus. He will show you how to bait with shields and WA in das3 properly. He do not use meta weapon or tryhard builds so it will be constant source of inspiration if you are not SL140 duel fag.

>>181163214
Because they gave a shit about the lore even after the shitfest of lore from souls 2 existed. Honestly it baffles me as well

>>181164304
Footfags get out

>>181164337
th-thats a lot of souls

>>181163765

CGK is a raw weapon. Put bundles on it or at higher levels you can lube it up with DMB or lightning blade.

I want to pick this game up again (DS3) and actually beat it and see the DLC.

I'm level 31 and last beat Abyss Watchers. Stats are 20 vig, 10 att, 13 end, 15 vit, 16 str, 20 dex, and low casting stats.

I hear there is some fun shit in the game since the expansions.

Can anyone suggest a nice middle of the road way I can go with this? I think dex heavy quality is what I want but does that open fin dlc shit for me?

Tldr; help me have a vision for the future of my build relating to the dlc and weapon possibilities. I hear something called the frayed blade is awesome, is that something I can't get for a long time?

>>181164992
Pump dex up to 80 and sharp infuse. Frayed blade is near the end of the last dlc so don't expect it anytime soon.

>>181164901
yeah that's what i figured, the raw damage isn't much worse than the AR from refined with 40/40

>>181164992
safest way to "level" without worrying you'll fuck yourself over is to aim for something like 30vig 30 end 20str and 20 dex

even with 20/20 in dex/str you can do a lot of damage with a larger variety of weapons.

>>181164992
Frayed blade is at the end of the second DLC. If you want a good Sharp weapon to get early on, the Astora GS is pretty great.

>>181165206

On the other hand if you don't mind the reach you could use a sharp dagger instead.

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>>181164696
>implying that you wouldn't

>>181165495
is sharp really much better than refined on the greatknife? right now im just fuckin around with it and doing a corthus fire enchant + refined + flynn ring and it's pretty funny at stunlocking

>>181160089
none of them
literally just learn yourself you fuckwit

>>181157335
Is Level 20 too high for High Wall invasions?
I am Sl 14 but want Yurias Stuff

>>181165662
No, I wouldn't.
Footfags are worse than Lucy

>>181165662
TIS GOOD

Is the Demon's Fist any fun to use? And it shines the best on a Strength build, right?

>>181165869
Anon, are you sure? Lucy is pretty bad.

>>181165778
you'll need 5 levels so SL 19 is cutting it close
just keep everything at +0 or +1

>>181166041
Yes, I'm sure.
Only thing worse is scatfags.

>>181165869
alright you're obviously delirious

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Is a Heavy Bandit Knife or a Heavy Thrall Axe a better Quickstep option for STR?

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>>181166340

>>181165996
Really fun in PVE

>>181165739

No, sharp on a dagger. Like a literal dagger. You even get quickstep which is quite nice.

>>181160089
Ignore all the ones with tech/ravioli rolling

>>181166701
oooooh okay, yeah i've fucked around with quick step builds, but mostly with the twin daggers. It's pretty fun but I am mostly enjoying the reach, also it's really dumb how many people i've gotten with the weapon skill of the cgk like they hold up their shield thinking "okay now he's just gonna bounce"

Holy fucking shit is there anything more cancerous than invading a solo host with a straight sword and shield who just wants to duel you (with healing of course) and won't progress through the level?

Like holy fucking shit man, I invade because duels are boring as fuck, but you're like "hey let's have duels AND I CAN ALSO CHUG 15 TIMES HAHAHA" like ffs summon 10 guys i don't fucking care as long as you'll actually progress through the level instead of dealing with this faggot who just backs up with his shield raised for an hour. I just want to fucking shoot myself.

>>181165869
>footfags
>being worse than lucy
Necrophiliacs are still better than Lucy. You're just being straight up delusional.

Don't let anyone fool you into thinking Longsword is the best PvE weapon. It's fucking Bandit's Knife.

>>181166939
i have an idea. dark souls needs that mechanic that's in those games like H1Z1, you know where they have the poison fog that keeps pushing you further and further into the map over time and keeps you moving?

souls needs that. just some deadly fog that slowly keeps encroaching so you can't just hang out at the bonfire forever, something that forces hosts/ganks to actually progress through the level or the level will kill them by default. miyazaki pls

>>181167048
:^)

>>181167048
most of the "bigger" knives are ridiculous in pve, you can stunlock just about every enemy and your dps on a boss is crazy. It turned the nameless king fight into a bit of a joke compared to the last time when i fought it with my WKGS

>>181166897

CGK is pretty great against turtles, yeah. I always carry one with my dagger builds.

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>>181167416
HOT

>reading miyazaki interview
>he literally admits to having a giantess fetish

>put on Friede's pants
>can't stop fapping to my feet

>>181167416
female pisspants witch of Manus

>>181158664
The first sin was sealing the humans' power.

>>181165346

Alright. That's what I was thinking. I remember quality being king at launch so everyone did that. I'll aim for that spread then go further into dex maybe. Is there a minimum suggested magic investment dir the bare bones versatile magic that any build can benefit from?

>>181165480

Astora GS is the big heavy one in the graveyard of the church right? It has the GS moveset while being lighter I think? I have gotten as far as ice city before but I dropped that character to start a new one with a buddy and that's the one I'm on now.

To anyone reading, can I rush the frayed blade?...oh wow. It requires 40 dex? I wouldn't have that much if I rushed it.

Footfags
get
out

>>181167904
suck my toe fag

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I like to use the Lucerne against turtles

>>181160697
Luci is a scaly pedophile and he hates ds2

>>181168078

well shit i wouldn't want to be a scaly pedophile, i better start liking ds2

>>181168078
I wish Zullie posted more often and also posted more of their body parts.

>>181168031
There is a difference between being a turtle and being a complete retard

>>181168031
Pretty sure that was somebody from here.

Some anon mentioned using the Dark Sword with a greatshield for good defense and easy attacking.

>>181168507
Wouldn't surprise me seeing as he pulled the plug at the end.

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>>181164337

>>181157335
Whats the point of Soldiers Rest?
Is there a hidden path somewhere or something that I'm missing?
I found the bonfire and beat the NPC invades (Who somehow invaded me despite me being hollow)
I beat the last giant and have no clue where to go next

>>181159559
Are you still sl 60?

>>181159596
Go to sl 50 +6 weapon

>>181168792
easy bonfire to get the giant seed.
you can still be invaded even if hollow in DS2
remember the fog door you went through to unlock the shortcut+elevator for last giant? Look to your right this time.

>>181168958
thanks friend, that's very generous of an SL even for me, I think i'll be unstoppable with my current build

>>181168792
Been a while since I've played DS2 but I think the giant drops the key you need to open those locked doors

Is there any reason to go Quality in DaS2? From what I've gathered, dark infusion or even chaos rapier with rob and flynn's does more damage for a full melee build. Am I just doing it wrong?
I know I can get through the game with anything, but the fucking minmaxer in me has already spent 5 hours, 2 soul vessels, 3 darknight stones, and 2 palestones trying to compare builds.

I just want to finish this so I can start on 3 already.

>>181169045
>easy bonfire to get the giant seed.
Ah yes I found the corpse of the giant but it gave me nothing except "a giant rests here"
Do I need a specific item

>>181169267
Whenever you get invaded, there's a chance that a giant seed will be there next time.
I forgot what the % is, but you can check every other invasion if you want seeds.

>>181169407
Ah thank you

>>181169086
Blues summoning range is very different than a reds invasion range.

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I want to make a build for shitting about in the early areas of the game, both dorkmooning, co-opping and invading, what's a decent level for it? 25+2? 20+1? And how good do the daggers do down there? Discussion in this thread has me intrigued because I've never given any of them a serious shot.

>>181169727
Where will 50+6 put me then?

>>181167416
My dick

what's the key to enjoying pvp in ds3?

invasions is fun and being a sunbro ofc BUT how are people willfully playing arena with all these lags? how are you guys enjoying yourself if the netcode is so horrible?

i really wanna give pvp a go but i just don't get "how"???

>>181169735
Trap ahead
A deep dagger will 1shot almost anything at low levels, especially with hornet.

>>181169854
Try it and find out. You will be surprised I bet.

>>181169854
Its host sl +/- (15 + 10%). Something like that.

>>181168507
no, that anon used the Greatshield of Glory, not havel's

>>181170084
I just use a build I like and win. If you're facing someone with a lot of lag you just gotta compensate for it or accept you're gonna have a bad match but for me most of my matches don't reach that point. If you want some (hopefully) lag free duels I'm up for it if you're on PC.

>>181169238

From what I recall, infused weapons don't get the full benefit of RoB or Flynn's, so there is still a point in going full physical if you use a small, fast weapon and stack those two rings with Sacred Oath. You're basically adding 150 AR onto whatever you like at that point; Bone Fist, a rapier, Bestoc, etc. That's basically what my quality build did.

>>181170092
Too much trouble getting hornet at lowlvl. Dancer, Oceiros and Gundyr.

>>181170084

You get adjusted to lag. Just know that usually what you see is about a half second behind what your opponent is actually doing.

>>181170427
i'm SL30 and beat Dancer and Oceiros, cmon tep it up boy boy

>>181170532
now go beat gundyr

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>>181160089
Generally everybody is shit at explaining the real meat and potatoes of PvP logic, because the micro level stuff is something most people learn to do intuitively without understanding why they do certain things. So when you search for help with PvP what you'll find is macro level information like, this weapon is good against this weapon, this overall strategy is good against such and such, this specific situation can be punished like this.

If you're starting out though, what you're going to struggle with isn't the macro level stuff, because you can just read about that, it's the micro level decision making of how to move, how to time attacks, where to stand, when to roll, when you can be aggressive or defensive. There is logic behind this, it just takes a lot more work to explain it.

>>181169735
Try Vordt's mace. You'll devastate anybody in two hits.

>>181170201
idk for me nearly everyone is lagging to some extent. it's not the same with other games.
>>181170460
really? i guess I'll have to give it another shot


I guess 20 vig might also just not be enough??

it's extremely frustrating for me to die in 2 hits within mere seconds and then having to sit back at the bonfire, go through the menu and wait for the next duel to start.

>>181166939
>>181167173
It's the invader's job to kill the host. If you can't kill a goddamn solo host, it's because you're fucking garbage.

>>181170683
y-yeah i will just gimmie a minute

What are some weapons with godly useful R2s like the great club?

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>>181160089

https://www.youtube.com/user/enisle2004/videos

You're welcome.

>>181169735
blood infused bandits knife and just invest everything in vigor

>>181170771
>I guess 20 vig might also just not be enough??

It isn't, no. Most people (at 120 or above) will have 40 or more.

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>>181170896

Crucifix of the Mad King.

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>>181171140
made me kek

>>181170084
When you have the experience you'll learn to deal with the lag and understand the mindgames that make Souls pvp more enjoyable than the laggy retard rodeo looks at first glance.

>>181170836
This, to be honest. Get good or get out. The separation crystal exists for a reason. Host's world, host's rules. If you dislike it, you are free to leave.

Plus, if they can beat you 1v1, you would absolutely bodied if the summoned help and started progressing through the level.

>>181162604
Ringed city, Filianores bonfire, the great sword dualwielder

>>181170771
You want about 39 Vigor for PvP usually, up to 44 if you can spare the points.

>>181170896
Any Straight Sword, Katana or Greatsword poking R2.

Ringed Knight Spear/Partizan R2 sweeps.

Scythe R2s since you can combo into them from a basic R1.

>>181168310
Yandergirlsonly email dude pls.

can somebody link me that stamina usage spreadsheet?

>>181171293
>Host's world, host's rules
My Invasion, my rules :^)

>>181170092
>>181170738
>>181170994
I'll keep these in mind. What about the level? I haven't touched making specific levelled builds since before the patch that changed how all the ranges work.

>>181167173
That sounds really fucking retarded and I'm glad you're not in charge od designing games.

>LMAO let's put every level on time limit xD

>>181163214
the end of the main game didn't have closure either

>>181170994
is bleed infuse actually worth it now? Last time I fucked with bleed builds it was better to go raw+carthus rouge.

>>181171984
End of Fire and Lord of Hollows felt like a setup for a sequel, honestly. Then again, the other games didn't really feel like any of the endings had much closure, either.

>>181163746
>>181163214
>>181163867
>>181163949
>>181164279

Gael might've come out of kinda nowhere but it sure as hell beat the alternative of them recycling too much shit from the first game. Gael's buildup is a bit sudden especially if you don't play AoA and TRC back to back but he's still a fairly good and satisfying "end boss" for the DLC.

>>181172002
bleed is garbage, no weapons combos can proc bleed so you are just sacrificing 100 damage for nothing.

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What's the hip new level for irithyll+post pontiff invades?

>>181170967

This guy's dedication to turtle shittery through the years has been nothing short of amazing.

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>>181172196
I was honestly hoping for a Manus-style boss, that felt like it would have made a little more sense. My initial hope was actually to fight Gael normally, and immediately have him stomped/devoured by the pseudo-Manus.
I also wanted Lapp to turn out to be Pate, and Chester to return somehow. If they were going to make only one more DLC with TRC, I just wish they went all-out with as many references as they could pack. Even pic related was inspired from my hopes for TRC, a congregation of these chaps.

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What stats should I have for crucifix? I'm thinking 40 str and 40 fth?

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>>181172569

You should basically always be two-handing it and you want a full power Dark Blade, so 27/60 is what I do. Remember you're getting weapon scaling out of that faith too, so you're triple-dipping on faith once you slap Dark Blade on there.

>>181172569
26 STR to reach the softcap while twohanding, 60 Faith for extra scaling damage and to get the most out of Dark Blade buffing.

>>181171521
Not the way it works unless you are actively cheating, but that is why I never play these games on PC in the first place.

>>181170967

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFVtzMben-o

Why is this guy still using Dark Sword? Why not Lothric Knight?

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>that one fucking retard who keeps activating your summon sign just to banish you

this can't be right.
accoridng to the stamina consumtion spreadsheet i should only be able to do 3 swings with my current stamina
but i can do 4

>>181173131
He's using it on a 50 STR build with Moaning Shield and Dark Sword scales great Heavy compared to Lothric Knight Sword and is slightly longer.

>>181173131
Dark sword has ~40 more AR with heavy infusion

>>181166939
git gud

Invaders need to be a higher standard of player. You should be expecting to fight 2v1 on equal terms, so if you can't beat a solo host then you're garbage.

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Evens I buy Friede's DLC.
Odds I just wait for a sale.

>>181173281
I do this if I see the sign of someone that I invaded that was a ganking pussy faggot. Feels good desu.

>>181174520
nah ill still wait for a sale

>>181171293

Only time I really have a problem is when people refuse to progress through the level and I refuse to go through the meat grinder or do some boring 15 estus chugging duel and we just stare at each other and say "Hey!" for a half hour.

It's not a matter of skill it's a matter of people for whatever reason just straight-up being fine with not playing the game for extended periods of time, it's fucking retarded considering how hand holdy DS3 is and how dying has almost no drawback (especially if you just remember to always spend all of your souls before starting a new area, there's really nothing to lose and embers are easy to come by).

I know I can just crystal out but I hate the feeling that I'm rewarding them by doing that. "lol bro just wait a while and the invader will leave, ez man you don't have to fight invaders just wait", fuck that.

i-is it ok to post my dank meme CE PvP videos here?

>>181175443
Depends if they're actually creative or just "lol throwing item machine gun"-tier garbage

>>181175443
>dank meme
no go away, we're not high schoolers who use the word meme for everything here

>>181175250
Their world, their rules. If you don't want them healing, hit them with a talisman. It would be stupid for them to try to solo you and the enemies in the level too. So fight them 1v1 or leave. They are playing smart, and you are the one in the wrong here.

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>can't get dark blade because I'd have to level up with yoel and I'm already pushing it with being SL 125
time for collector's edition?

>>181175597
>Their world, their rules.
Stop saying this false line

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>>181175573

>>181175554
b-be gentle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iY6DVNOd-k

>>181175798
You should've planned better if you wanted DB, but yeah, just CE yourself the spell

>>181175859
flagged as racist for having shitty /pol/ catchphrases

>>181175862
The way to do it safely is to just go offline, drop an item then change the item right?

>>181175935
t-thanks, cuck

>>181157335
So this is my third time playing through Dark Souls III

It's pretty clear to me that this game is not kind to heavy-weapon builds. So I'm thinking about starting over this build and going 100% dex.

What are some of the best dex weapons in the build? What are some of the most successful builds you guys have made in general for Das III?

>>181175826
Since it is not false, I can keep saying it then.

Their world, their rules.

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What's a good weapon/infusion for a lad with 60 fth and 20 dex?

Hard mode: no saint bident or Wolnir sword

>>181176256
SSS

>>181176129
What was your str build and what did you struggle with?

>>181176256
Sunlight Straight Sword is pretty good.

>>181175937
Yep. Dropswapping is the best way. I've dropswapped in the spell scroll items things before and not got bun, so you should be fine

>>181176256
>wolnir
>with no STR
Sunlight SS :^)

>>181176256
vanilla to go with your latte, you fucking faggot

>>181176148
Literally a child

>>181176345
>>181176364
>>181176389
Thx, will try it out.
>>181176413
What did he mean by this?

>>181175826
>Invade Low Level Noob Gankers with downscaled Phantoms in Cruc. Woods
>Buttbuddies probably played 1 time through the game
>Go to the ladder down to the Swamp
>They all fall down while they try to kill me
Git gud shitter

>>181176490
>What did he mean by this?
I honestly have no idea.

>>181176349
This current build I am working on is Astora Greatsword build with lightning blade as a buff. Im actually majoring in dex and giving the blade a sharp infusion, because that is the best scaling for the blade.

Still getting slammed by enemies and bosses. As my character begins to lift his sword for attack I am already slashed at 5 times by these spastic enemies.

>>181176734
Then you're just shit and don't know how to play. I beat the game without co-op with ledo's gh, and I used the great club up until then.

>>181176734
Astora GS is long, so use that to your advantage and outspace enemies.
If you're getting hit, try to time your swings better, like after the enemy has finished a large attack. If you're getting staggered while attacking, put on armor with higher poise.

>invade arche dragon peak at sl 85 +10
>so many fucker shitters

Seems like they are people just passing though rather than duel fags sitting around waiting for invaders.

>>181177227
>tfw getting Arch Dragon Peak over with at SL30
everything is so calm, everybody is still jacking off at Crux Woods every time I travel.

I'm over here laughing. HOHOHO LOOK AT YOU PLEBS STILL STRUGGLING AT THE CRAB LAKE.

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>just got ds3
>decide to invade with the cracked red eyes I have
>INVADING ANOTHER WORLD
>spawn in for five seconds
>immediately get booted

>and it still used up the orb

>>181177710
You can get the full orb pretty early.

What class should I start as for a str/fai build? And what's the best stopping level?

i need a good looking set set for a flynn ring dagger build, I am tired of just wearing masters shit plus rags, i wanna look fresh but also stay under 30%

>>181177962
Desert pyromancer

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>>181177710
Invading at High Wall is not worth it.
You'll get pic related.

>>181177710
this was my experience with DaS3 invading when I got the game 3months ago
>invade high wall
>have 2estus @ +0
>3 password phantoms
>die
>point down

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>>181177710
>>181178002

>>181177914
Yeah I guess I gotta run around the settlement some more and find a tongue.

In DS1 you could use cheatengine to just bypass such things (i.e. just spawn in a red eye orb) and not get banned. I heard DS2 was really hard on that though (never got into it myself). How is DS3 on that front?

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>>181177710
>>181178301
>>181178002

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>>181178301
Yeah settlement is a no go as well

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>>181176256
Is the Spearsword good on base stats and 60 FTH?

I hope the next souls like game nails down the down scaling technology. It's sucks to have invasions and summoning tiered by levels and upgrades.

>>181178469
How do you even handle these situations? Just let it happen?

>>181178002
>>181178301
>>181178469
>>181178543
My world, my rules :)

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>>181178629

>>181178629
The most you can really do is lead them into packs of mobs. Summons usually get cocky when they have someone to back them up so you can take advantage of it by using the monsters to your advantage. The other option is one shot parry builds so you can instantly kill the host.

>>181178838
Shit, I need to do that more often. I just want my damn Shackles

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>>181178469

>>181177939
Cleric or Pyromancer if you want to use Crucifix and Murky Hand Scythe due to the INT requirements they have.

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>>181178629
I raise my hands up in the air, close my eyes and lean back on my chair.
This keeps my eyes off the monitor, my hands off the controller, and my head is resting as I try and keep my mind calm and collected.

>>181178629
get some vit, prisoner's chain + RoFaP+3 and Vordt's greathammer (which you can twohand with only 15 str + knight's ring) and you'll easily be able to spank ganks like that

>>181178553
Not really, you need some more investment in STR and/or DEX to make it to good damage.

>fire headgear
>dark headgear
>magic headgear
>No faith headgear????

>>181178970
That'll be it then. Crucifix is the end goal since I've heard people say it's pretty great

>>181178001
yeah, i guess i need to get the dlc.

Is there any good advice for how to outspace other players? I feel like if I don't roll I always get hit unless I'm like three meters away

>>181179004
>>181178469
What SL & WL do you lads use for high wall/settlement?

>>181178629
Well, not like that. You don't walk directly into a group of 3 or 4 people with what looks like no plan and expect to be capable of doing anything.
But against something like that, you'd almost certainly have to be twinking to some extent to win, much less survive.
I've won maybe a handful of password-summoned/overgeared 4v1s and it almost always comes down to some form of cheese or bullshit one way or another, whether it's a Hornet riposte or knocking people out of the level with Force.

>>181179360
15+1 or 20+2 at most.
Most people have gone to Firelink to upgrade their gear and Vordt probably made them level up a bit after dying to him.

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>Eye Of the Priestess works on cloaked enemies outside the DLC
Neat!

>>181179478
Man I love DaS2 but fucking hell the texture work could be goddamn awful at times

>>181179307
What is the cheapest you can get the dlc anyway?

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>>181179639
>Man I love DaS2

Zullie I want to be your littel demon. <3

>>181179897
kek

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>>181179639

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>>181179004
By the way this guy was doing a cool Forlorn cosplay, hence the endgame gear at such a low SL.

It's proper twinking like this that keep me loving DS3.

>>181179897
if DS2 had better level design it would be hands down better than ds3 desu famb

>>181179191

There's a fire headgear?

>>181175597
The problem with Talismans is that the limit for them is insanely low considering the invader had to deal with 2-3 phantoms and possibly blues on top of that.

>>181180623
This.
>people ACTUALLY like the fucking "you can redirect your attacks to face any direction right up until the moment you swing" bullshit
The rolling spam and hyperspeed unpunishable chug are fucking trash too

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>>181180623

Say what you want about the game world as a whole but Majula was a top tier comfy hub.

>>181180925
We are talking about a solo host.

>>181181138
I could listen to the Majula music for hours, it was a fucking great hub location and I wish we'd got something similar for 3 instead of "HEY GUYS YOU REMEMBER FIRELINK WELL LOOK HERES FIRELINK! OH LOOK HERES ANDRE TOO DONT YOU GUYS JUST LOVE DARK SOULS!"

>>181181138
yeah, majula's theme is better neo-firelink's as well

What can I use to fight ganks in central irithyll besides hornet 1 shot shit? Around SL50-60 +6?

>>181181138
More like Vagina because it looked like it smelled like fish.

>>181181297
The music in Majula was way better, sometimes it feels like you can't hear yourself think in the Shrine

>>181181178
god you're such an autist

>>181181138

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9zUkNBGVhs

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>>181181297
1 Andre and the rest is different people, but hail from the same school of socererys etc..
Wow such a throw back...

>>181181339
Firelink's music after giving her the firekeeper's eyes is much better than both.

Is knight still the best starting class for anything that isn't a magic-focused/leaning build?

t. Haven't played in months

>>181181807
pretty much

>>181181807
Knight or Warrior depending on if you want the extra ATT for Weapon Arts and VIT.

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>>181181514
>Me: Witty and Educated remarks, positively dripping with personality
>anon: unrelated BS
>Me: That is actually unrelated to the discussion
>anon (aka Larry): OMG U SO AUTISTIC!

>>181173281
i do this if i somehow find someone using the same password until they change or get summoned by whoever

>>181181937
Warrior has too much Luck

>>181182381
It's Luck is a little high but assuming you're not putting any points in ATT Warrior is still a point more efficient than Knight on more pure DEX or STR builds. It's not that big a difference and personally I prefer Knight more since I like to use WAs a lot but in sheer efficiency they are pretty on par.

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>>181181297

>hey guys remember firelink well look heres firelink

God, you DS2fags are obnoxious. DS3 Firelink looks absolutely nothing like Dark Souls 1's firelink shrine. The interior is more matching with Demon's Souls' Nexus than anything else and the exterior parts are completely different than any hub within the series.

>don't you guys just love dark souls?
Uhh yeah, I do. That's why I bought a game called "Dark Souls 3". And unlike Dark Souls 2 we more or less got what was promised.

If I wanna sword and board aka enisle faggotry am I better with quality or should I just go str and infuse my weapon with heavy?

>>181181297
majula has shitty minecraft music

>>181182647
We at least get to see firelink in the dreg heap that's pretty cool. The firelink in the main game is honestly way to different to even be the same fucking shrine, they don't even have the crow or big ass tree!!

>>181181178
Okay. Regardless of whether it's a solo host or not(because more often than not it isn't or a blue joins up) the limit of Lloyd's Talismans you can carry at once should be 10 at least

>>181181138
Majula is comfy because I love coasts. If only the NPCs in DS2 felt more dynamic or had more shit to say. Also the big mansion felt like a completely squandered opportunity.

>>181182964
or well

On dark souls 1 I played a pyromancer/dex character than usually used a katana

In 2 I did a duel wielding dex character that used a curved sword and katana in their off hand

In 3 I played pure strength that used a great axe/ultra great sword as their main weapon and a straight sword/ great sword in their offhand.

After I finish up the last few bosses in 3 I think I may replay 1 again. What build should I do. How's magic in 1?

>>181182780
Depends on what Sword and Shield you want to use and with which infusions. If you want to reach top-tier shittery just go a Dark Lothric Knight Sword at 30/30 INT/FAI with enough Dex to wield it and 18 Strength for Black Knight Shield.

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>tfw you get hit by your own crucifix's kamikaze

>>181183597
still waiting for the patch that makes buffing it with blessed weapon remove the skelly

>>181181342

Heavy weapons with poise. Works at every level.

You can also try sorcery.

>>181183367
>how's magic in DS1?
Op as fuck.
All the sorcery boosting shit is much more potent and duck crown+bellowing dragoncrest+rtsr fucks shit up so hard.

Dark bead with hypermode is gonna oneshot almost everything in NG PvE.

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>accidentally swallow a fish bone
the real Prepare to Die

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Trying to get a Yorha character is hard, at least for the women. Maybe I'd be better off trying to make a 9S.

>>181183397
top-tier shittery is my ultimate goal, yes. If I'm being a turtlefaggot wouldn't a greatshield serve me better, or does that build in your post allow so many point pumped into VIG or END that black k***ht shield comes out on top anyway?

>>181184064
How big?

>>181180907
Sage's blindfold methinks.

>>181184373
black knight shield has almost as much stability as most greatshields while being a medium shield

How does the Murky Longstaff compare to other options for casting Dark magic at high Int and low Faith?

>>181184373
it also lets you use weapon arts which are one of the best things about the lkss

>>181184373
Yes, all the best greatshields require too much Strength for that to be viable without huge sacrifices in Vigor and Endurance. The Dark Lothric Knight Sword allows you to reach great damage on one of the best straight swords in the game with the best elemental damage type against players and shields and the Black Knight Shield has stability and defenses on par with most greatshields while being a WA shield a lower STR requirement.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/216771

Here's the general overview of what you want, as you see you have points to spare before you even reach 120.

>>181184717
Longstaff does more damage with dark sorceries than Court Sorcerer staff at 60 INT only if you have the WA Chant active during. Otherwize Izalith will still deal more at equal INT/FAI at 40/40.

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>hurr let's give this boss 6 million hp and an extremely long and boring first phase that you have to repeat every time you die

>>181184154
it's like nigh impossible to make the hair the right kind of white, also i don't think any of the hairstyles work for 9s

>>181184154
I think I played with a 2B once.

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Europoors, go to fucking bed already.

>>181184989
So just stop dying to it.

>>181184853
I only have the Sorcerer's base Faith of 7, though I sometimes throw on the Priestess Ring when I want to use the Immolation Tinder. Guess I'll stick to the Court Sorcerer's.

I'm doing the Ringed City for the first time and since it seems like the RC K***hts resist both Magic and Fire I'm looking to diversify my damage types a bit more.

>>181184989
>extremely long first phase
It's over fairly quick if you're at the recommended SL.

Anyone on Ps4 able to help me transfer a few items? It aint too many, just some fashion thatll let me save time in game

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>tfw just realized im like that Monster Hunter guy in the /dsg/ comics
I fucking love these GREAT swords.

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>first playthrough and apparently I fucked everything up by somehow not getting Creighton to invade, also killed the hidden pilgrim

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>>181184989
>bleed
>lightning
>pure fucking STR
>Magic
Yet you still choose to fucking die to it....

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>>181185362

>>181182780
I'd recommend dex instead of dark. If you're just fighting random people you'll rarely ever see shields and when you do your L2-R1 will be enough to get through them.

Due to the non split damage your R2's and L2-R2's will be absolutely devastating with the leo ring.

You'll also have another great turtle weapon, the estoc available to you

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/216776

What weapon do those clerics in Lothric Castle use?
Looks like a Rapier but they swing it like a broken straightsword

>>181186114
It's some unique weapon they have the player can't get at all that looks like some Sword/chime hybrid.

>>181184989
>use ultra weapon
>poisebreak and visceral it to death

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>>181184989
>Let's remake O&S except not as cool and the two are basically the same instead of really different and it doesn't matter which order you kill them in

They really are shit.

>>181174520

>>181185689
It's not useless though, I assure you. If your problem is only the result of you doing a thing then stop doing that thing.

Seriously though, as soon as the Demon in Pain is dead, the fight is effectively over. If you can beat DiP, then you have already won. They are only tough when their is two of them, and the Laser Prince is a joke.

>>181186770
B-but it does matter which order you kill them...

Do pyros still go 40/40 int/fth? How's the Demon Scar and Seething Chaos? I wanna play pyro again now that I have even more toys to choose from.

>>181181297
HEY REMEMBER THE LORDVESSEL WELL HERE IT IS IN THE BOTTOM, HAHA ALSO WE HAVE CRESTFALLEN BACK

Dark Souls 2 had shit tons of DaS1 references and call backs. You probably just blocked them from your memory because they were all retarded (dude lord souls endlessly respawn and now Seath has a soul too XD)

>>181187294
Don't forget lmaodarkedgy ornstein

>>181187294
don't forget not-Havel
at least DS3 had the balls to say "Yeah it's fucking Havel, he's back"

>>181185689
>responding to Lucy with anything other than telling him to kill himself
We must all unite to bully Lucy until he can't even think about /dsg/ without crying.

>>181187193
40/40 is the best for actual pyro damage yes.

Demon's Scar is one of the best weapons in the game since it has the scimitar Curved Sword moveset, is one of the longest curved swords, and can combo an R1 into Black Flame with capped cast speed. This sets up very good meme combos like offhand Dragonhead Shield WA>Demon Scar R1>Black Flame.

>>181186770
Except there not as glitchy as Oreo and smoll. Have a pattern in which they attack and honestly feels fun to fight, along the 2nd phase being a cooler version of smol and oreo. Not copied asylum demon, with electricity added to a weapon or a bigger version of fake Orstein.

>>181157335
Why are the threads full of shitters who fail at PvE and complain about every "unfair" shit they encounter in Invasions?
>He uses weapon X :((
>He has Phantoms :(((
Play Gayonetta or other shit games if you only whine 24/7

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>>181187546
making me hungry talking about oreos

>>181187440
Wasn't it a follower? (Same thing though lol)

>>181186757
literally this
i killed them on my 2nd try with an astora gs, thought this boss was a joke. they're so easy to visceral and their moveset is so easy to avoid, you literally just run into you and hit them and they don't even have any "get the fuck off of my feet/tail" attacks like most of the dragon/giant enemies, feelsl ike a ds1 boss because of how simple their moveset is

>>181187294
>Old DragonSlayer
>That disgusting Havel rip off
The Niggers who had these ideas need to be gassed
>4 Lord Souls
>Lord Vessel
>That one DS2 fag without a life: WHY DAK SOLS 3 VUL OF REFERENS OF DAR SULS 2 XDDD CHID GEM LOL xd

>>181187294
>everyone including Gywn were soulless beef jerky people that were outside the cycle of life and death at first
>found some great souls laying around and take them as their own
>get stuck in some shitty cycle of rebirth

I never got this line of thought, if soulless husks can make a soul their's why can't a dragon do the same? Its never stated in any of the games that they can't. You could argue the soul was just a fragment of Gywn's but it was with Seath for a while and the Lordvessel makes it clear even a tiny used up fraction of a Lord Soul is inifintely stronger than some random hero's soul.

>>181187473
Fucken rad yo. Are there any pyro catalysts that cast sorceries/miracles? Just so I actually have a chance in hell against Demons and Midir

>>181187193
>scar
>combos R1 into Blackflame
It's okay, I guess.

40/40 is ideal, but you can settle for 35/40 if you're hurting for more VIG/END. Seething Chaos is kinda meme, but it's not bad in invasions where you can nail people through walls.

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>>181188390
Crystal Chime can be used for sorceries and miracles, since it scales with both stats it has some good spell buff

>>181187440
>>181187828
Both could be Havel in the same way Kirk and possibly Andre returned, or neither could be Havel and both are his followers.

>>181188390
The only pyro catalyst that can also cast another type of magic is unfortunately White Hair Talisman which is shit. Just carry a backup Crystal Chime to swap to since you'll have optimal scaling for that anyway. For Demons just use dark pyromancies/Gnawing and Midir use Boulder Heave and Mercury.

>>181187697
Ah, you're just a shitter than refuses to learn. Carry on.

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This area gave me the fucking chills in the game. Too bad it's over pretty quickly.

>>181188138
Seath never had a fucking soul. He was given a piece of Gwyn's soul. Same with the Four Kings.

Why is Seath's soul is one of the big four that constantly regen and not the Four Kings?

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>kill queelag
>go back to firelink
>realize you forgot to ring the bell
FUCK

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>>181188798
The answer is within you.
So we can get the Moonlight Greatsword in every game.

>>181188830
the cucko demon

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Am I the only person that liked this boss?

>>181188830
I remember doing this exact same thing, feels like shit

>>181189008
It's a very solid bossfight and I love the arena you fight him in.

>>181189008
>design is literally a manticore

I don't hate it, but it's just generally unremarkable.