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Previous >>180931791

BIG FAT - edition

>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628


>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1026

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1018
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1019
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=994


>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)


TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

dont use tosbase (you dont read this anyways)


>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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>6 hours later
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cute is recruiting!

Looking for active talt slaves to provide us talt to the guildbank so we can farm the guild raids for practonium to gear our 5 man clique!
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Me on the left with the jewish nose
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>>181046869
46 fps later
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>>181046869
You couldve farmed much more anything else and sold it for silver so you can buy manahas of some retard who already has it
Also why do you need that set anyways
autoattacking classes are shit
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Is trading bugged? Traded a friend an item, both with token, and now can't trade that item
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>this op pick

thauma swelled her boobs instead of the cloned mobs, kek
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>use reincarnate on 140 boss
>don't even get the "fail message"
>use reincarnate on 50 boss
>don't even get the "fail message

What the fuck? Does this skill only work on Mission Bosses, Saalus Bosses and ET bosses? Only on those do I get the message.
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>>181046869
Why is your group not just full Chrono3s and Oracles?
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Please post more anime tiddies
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>>181047308
It is
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T....T-Titties..... ....
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>>181047292
That is exactly the case. Works on field bosses too, but not world bosses.
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>>181047437
This is why chestlets and flatchests will never ever compare

Chronos A SHIT
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>>181047417
Well, why don't you have two groups or Chrono3s and Oracles?
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>>181047716
They're too account poor
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>>181047437
didnt had that yet. thx
fucking asians hiding there tos art
post more

>>181047551
i used to be in flat or small, but recently it needs to be big. weird
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>>181047972
You're just getting good taste/becoming a man
Flat is literally for fags

Speaking of lewd tos art, I wish we had an /aco/ thread for ToS
Too many people stashing their lewd art and just posting cropped sfw stuff
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>>181046647
>futurenormies, cucktatsu and niggerhouse still in OP
FUCKING DELETE IT ALREADY
GUILDS FULL OF NORMIES
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>>181047437
Hmm

>>181048390
No, fuck you.
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>>181047154
what is sr3
what is chapPD
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>>181048825
>reddit
Completely irrelevant for this general Cel,
you being a forumshitter is much worse than reddit tbqh, this games forum has taken over reddits usual role for a game and is a cesspool of upvoted and bad opinions by BR shitters who infest it
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>>181048390
>>181048825
>eu normies
No anon, nobody gives a shit about them.
Go back to the forum and your discord secret club clique.
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>>181047459
it works on dungeon bosses too idiot
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now that that def is not as good as before... I'm doing fine with cafrisun on my sr

chaplain should use a true spr set
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>>181048825
Thats not Coffee Discord but the subreddit tosg general discord
>call others Reddit
>he reddit himself
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Anyone from Silute can invite me to the guild?
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>Even lewd artwork is still pretty cute
I like ToS.
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how
I fail when I try to get to +4
twice
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All this talking about dpk reminded me about when I started playing.
>leveling at the gateway of teh great king
>kill some saugas and suddenly the engine core drops
>3 kills later I also get the gem
>find someone farming them later on the map
I have mixed feelings about DPK, for one hand it guarantees an item drop, for the other, shit like this can happen.
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>>181049018
That's not me. I only blew the lid that one time on the green text and have never posted about it again. Rest is just the general. I don't care about your guild anymore. I have better things to do.
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>>181049840
>ET Plate
uhmm
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>>181046881
I call the guy going for the mouth.
I'm too awkward so I'm totally the one to go for the non-lewd parts first.
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>>181049840
It's almost like desire sensor is a real thing and not confirmation biased hocus pocus
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Let's say I want to buy some silver for reasons.
How do I proceed without bein assblasted by the RMT mafia?
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>>181051210
>mfw a MH player
>see the words desire sensor
p-please
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>>181051248
I recommend SEAgamer or vgolds
both deliver 100% so far

MMOMB and lolgoods are super scammers luring with low prices
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post feet
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>>181051548

feet is not allowed in blue boards, delet
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>>181049840
>>181051210
>desire sensor is a real thing
Maybe this..

Got a Pract yesterday and made weapon for alt.
Did not really care, +6 or +8 or whatever would be fine. Got to +11 easy, barely fail but i stop at 11.

Last week i got gloves i really wanted.
+3 now with 1 Potential left and i just dont know anymore.. why not 11 on them.
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>>181051890
You can literally manipulate desire sensor and other "luck" related things to your advantage
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>>181051890
>why not 11 on them.
Oh i mean 7, dont even want 11 on armors.
Fucking+3
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>>181051980
how
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>>181051548
No, post more titties
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What else am I supposed to get as a SR?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311444aaa.1a4a.1f314f.3f
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>>181052402
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311444aaa.1a4a.1f314f.2a3f4f75
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>>181052340
I'm sorry but I dont play on Fedimian so I can't really help you
I'm not willing to waste my time explaining some of the methods just to be discredited by non-believing anonymous shitposters
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>>181052340
You can't, it's a meme
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>>181052340
Sounds like another case of

>I know something but will not tell or show, no spoonfeed for you shitters

>>181052867
Yep
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>>181047292
>>181047459
>>181049293
Is Reincarnation pure RNG or is based on skill level or target hp?
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>>181053185
it's pure RNG. but i had goodluck with reviving stuff when i had it maxed during the reset event.
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I find being a Dragoon suffering now ;_;

God, we really need a buff on damage.
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>>181053553
>not using the top tier RMJ build
only your fault
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How does inquisitor's wheel work exactly? if I smash it with my swordie skills, will they splash?
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>>181049293
It doesn't. There's no debuff nor any "failed" message.
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>>181053553
Stay strong Dragoonbro
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>>181053856
Yes
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>>181053623
Didn't even matter what build you actually follow, the damage mods for the skills are such ass.

>>181053893
We will persevere! But seriously we need a better damage mod. The only real numbers I see fit for an R7/8 class is Dethrone and that's not saying much.
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>>181053553
You're a support.
You're the Falconer of the sword tree.

Be content in knowing that Corsair, a green icon class, can't support as well as you do.

If you went Cata route, you can at least contribute decent AoE with a good weapon.

If you went Hoplite route you can help boost damage of all pierce related trees. This includes archers who have a ton of them (see sapper, musket, SR etc. all pierce)
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222cee.1a29355561.1f213f4551627591.153545.152a355575
Good build?
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is rogue without scout worthless
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Why is heal so fucking broken OP for bossing?

>Heal 17
>7752% damage multiplier
>per overheat
>only 22 sec CD so instantly Passed
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any good pd2 doctors builds?
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>>181053885
unless they broke it last week, it does work.
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>>181054418
can you make a spreadsheet and a 50 pages manual about it and compare it to PD2, please? make a video exposition too
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>>181055203
see >>181054913
only thing I'm not sure about is exorcism point distribution, some anon was explaining how 5/5 exorcism is important when planning to use magnus.
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>>181054913
yes
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>>181055338
pure autism
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>>181054857
For Rush to do damage now you need an RMT whale trasceneded tier weapon
c
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>>181052647
get Appraiser or Rouge instead of R3
Other than that, you're fine. Just don't forget to buy Spread as soon as you reach SR3
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>>181054857
>musket, SR etc. all pierce
lel no they are Gun
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Is bloodletting important?
Lots of builds don't run it, but how do they avoid status then?
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>>181056098
Bloodletting only matters if you care about PvP, there aren't any mobs with level 2 status effects that are actually threatening so you can just use dispellers.
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>>181055101
For pve you can make without it.
Not sure about pvp.
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hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>181056098
Its nice, you can save alot of money
>>181056246
t. pardoner
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>>181055338
Stop existing please
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>>181056246
>>181056346
here we go again
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Where's all the Wugushi fanart? It's like no one even cares about the best class!
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>>181056346
well how much do they go for usually?
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>>181056673
check the market
Its 500 per dispeller or so
Each dispeller blocks one application of debuff
It adds up alot when you can just use bloodletting 24/7
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>>181056337
I see a dumb, look at it. Look at that stupid dumb Mia.
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>>181056337
Isn't that +31 now?
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>>181055157

what bugs me is the fact that heal squires have over 100% matk. what the fuck, they should have been 60% at best, lol
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>>181056337
>Mia ready in her wedding dress to drop on her knees and give koreanwhale a good servicing with her mouth to get a taste of that pencil
No Mia, that's not how you increase your anvil luck
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>>181054857
>You're a support.
>You're the Falconer of the sword tree.
>Be content in knowing that Corsair, a green icon class, can't support as well as you do.

LIES AND SLANDER! ;_;

But I already have a Falconer I actually made for support...
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>>181056774
well but risky statuses aren't that common right?
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>>181057072
Depends what you consider risky
I farm alot of Hunting grounds 320 and getting silenced by elite mobs sucks ass
I guess it depends on what your char is for
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>>181056337
>5 Blessed Shards for a Zabbi Mask
Wow what the fuck.
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>>181056782
Hey, no bully.

>>181056890
Just No!

And it is a old pic >>181056804
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is there any way to easily check if someone who's not on your friends list is online?
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So why is Helgasercle card so expensive? Is the wording wrong? Because +10 matk seems a little bit underwhelming.
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>>181057840
/memberinfo
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>>181057862
It's for sorcerers
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>>181056613
>always see you guys posting about wugushi here
>get a wugushi3 in the 200 dungeon
>he does 0 damage
>never uses any wugushi skills
>ask him why
>"i don't have any poison for my pot"

great class losers
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>>181048831
I want a girl who will let me fill her every hole with pract
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>>181056613
>>181058093
wugus need to be systematically bullied
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>>181057934
Thanks, that makes sense.
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>>181058093
Why are archers always the stingy ones? Well, aside from the superjew alchs.
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>>181047154
At least in Orsha there are literally 0 on the market for a few days, I've been checking.
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Anyone who recommends Wugushi isn't your friend, he is probably trying to kill you.
Be safe and stay vigilant.
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>>181049018
If you've been playing games long eonugh they've had this role long long before reddit.
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>>181047154
It's a reddit guild, what the fuck do you expect? Not being autistic and not blogging about it?
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>>181058219
To bad all you have is a stack of Keista Restoration Potions Lv2 and a few Mithril Ore
:^)
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Is making a Pardoner good just for me to use? The same question goes for Squire.
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>>181058352
Wugushi don't even have it that bad. Venom is cheap. 1 venom is 400s and that gives you 200 poison, and only 1 skill costs more than 10 poison.
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>>181058562
Too sooon
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>>181058693
>Is making a Pardoner good just for me to use?
If you dont mind weak buffs.. or actually want to buy/farm SPR gear+gems for it.

>Squire
Very good to have. Camp+Tent are nice.
And need no gems/gear
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>>181058717
Exactly, they also only weigh 1 each so you can stock up hundreds and that will last you a very long time.
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>>181058880
What about scrolls?
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How does blessings hitcount work?

>play pd2
>use poison gas and shitloads of monsters are getting hit for constant damage ticks
>almost get the entire duration of a blessing while farming HG

>play doppel
>blessing is used up in like 10 minutes of farming
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>>181059394
just wait till some fag asks for a video evidence + google sheet, you ain't gonna get a serious question
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>>181059519
you mean a serious answer
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>>181059394
maybe it's per skill usage and not per hit?
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There has to be a secret to getting gear to +11 without any fails.

I just want to know before I quit this game...
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>>181059614
do you have any evidence to support your statement?
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>>181059519
>you ain't gonna get a serious answer
Sometimes you do!
Not everyone here is a dumb as fuck retarded shitposter.
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>>181059891
empty inventory and no lag, you're welcome.
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I don't know shit about swordsmen but friends wants to be a dragoon/lancer

He sent me this guide, is it not shit?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111666fh.3f5f6a85.11415a61718591aabf.253545.1533415561
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>>181059891
I'll tell you once I finish my heart of glory and bring it to +16
I already have 2 x +16 weapons

Stay tuned for the next 2 weeks or so, just need a bunch more antennas and my 2nd practo
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>>181059891
I do a ritual, I know it's not real but I do it in every game.

If I get a fail, I re-log then try again. I do this every time I get 1 fail.

It's just superstition but it keeps me at ease.
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>>181059948
>one guy asks for advice on chap pd/ chap Inqui
>shitposts for days
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we did it readdit
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>>181060009
Failure causes lag, not the other way around.
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>>181060129
how many hours?
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>>181060272
8. We failed the DPE
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>>181060229
never reply to me again
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>>181060318
haha wtf
How fucking retarded you have to be to fail an uncontested monster
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>>181060318
Is this a joke?
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>>181060412
I bet it was a goon that went over hit limit
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>>181060412
Resisted
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>>181060475
resisted what?
That makes no sense
You just autoattack it to like 5k hp and then use any skill on it with DPE on
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>>181060554
That's what we did, DPE activated at 5k hp. Only one drop
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>>181060347
Replying causes (You), not the other way around.
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NIGGER
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>>181060647
Yeah you fucked something up
you can't resist DPE, its the buff of the swordman lol
Most likely this happened
>>181060470
or some other dumb shit
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>>181060712
He's not lying.
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>>181060727
Dethrone is a 2 hit, DPE was level 6. It doesn't make sense.
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I have no idea how to play this game. I feel like it's more complex than I'm playing it as.
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>>181060712
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>>181060712
I laughed.

Well he isn't lying.
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Isn't Reincarnate supposed to ress the boss with low HP?
Just ressed Rafene on the 260 DG and he came back with full life, we coudn't kill him before time was over.
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>>181061447
Its bugged
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>>181060712
you should tip the nigga for the premium tier joke
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>>181061447
it can res with full hp/ low hp/2 of the target with attrubute
im not lucky enough to get 2 bosses though
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>>181059891
There is no secret
It's pure gambling
Some people are just more lucky than others at anvilg gambling
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>>181062118
Wow are they born with that gift or can I train to get more luck too?
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>>181062063
Res 2 full-life Poatas once. They died before someone killed the tree, too.
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>archer's strongest skills are literally melee damage (broom trap and sonic strike)

you can't unfuck this game
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>>181060318
>failing DPE on that set
Legit sorry for your lose, not much for potential money but because a good missed chance of getting 2 people on the set farm instead of one
Only 1 getting loot means more work later to farm the same mob again
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>>181060318
serves you right you fucking rodent
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>>181062575
Magic Arrow?
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>>181062661
>later
No stops on the autism train
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>>181062903

shit.
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>>181062986
Tell me how a 4k damage mod on a 5sec cooldown is shit?
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>>181062903

155%, not really true aoe, affected only by decay multiplier but bosses are imune to it...

but I can see a build of sapper 3 fletcher 3 being better than mergen, lmao
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>>181063123
>155%
hmmmmmm
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>>181062792
The rodent was on his oracle.
Please no bully our mate mistake
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>le kawaii rodent tee hee
LOL
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>everyone gives up except kind-hearted chrono and me
>Rodent about to log off
>finally get him his fucking pantsu
>rodent calls for a goon to go over hit limit on doggo (because spawned little doggos)
>1 guy left without manaha now
Time to go find new doggo to fix rodents mistake...
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>>181063123
>>181063510
12.5 x 2 = 25
25 x 176% = 4400% physical damage

Wugushi is powerful! I need a PD2 gf to spread my poisons.
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Capybaras are cute though
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>>181064171
That's 4 times the CD
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>>181064171
and don't forget you counted in the scaling from attribute
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>>181064360
He's memeing but in case some nooblet really think Magic Arrow is only 155%, it's not true as it hits 25 times.
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>>181064156
We don't care you are farming a set good only for gain 1 minute in 140 dungeon runs on SR
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>>181064264
>>181064360
>>181064496
Yeah but Wugushi have more than 1 skill, unlike stinky Fletchers.
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>>181064674
Barbed Arrow alone will do more damage than all your wugushit skills combined.
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what is a new 330 fletcher hacka supposed to use weapon wise? impossible to kill anything with garbage 220 bow...
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>>181065104
>hacka
>bow
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Divine Mighting squire shops really does nothing, right?
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>>181065104
You need a cross bow and an offhand.
Get a cheap harvester with 3 slots if you are really poor.
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>how to fix fletcher
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311bbbeee
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>>181065227
Yes, it does nothing
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>>181065660
I can't wait for Falconer and Chrono to get gassed. Day of the rope can't come soon enough.
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>>181065660
well you're not wrong
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>>181065660
>fixing an archer class
its like you haven't played the game

>>181065774
>wanting to gas support classes
gas yourself anon
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>>181065359
bought migantis xbow and perjoritas, hopefully that will help the climb to non-shit gear
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>>181065660
>how to fix thaumas
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213888aaa
>>181065774
Agreed, chronos must be killed to make game good again
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>>181065860
>perjoritas
in before dagger
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>>181065774
>chrono
You mean the cryo3chrono3sage build?
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>mfw I still have all my DPK bug items and have been slowly selling them for insane profits
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>>181066041
sword
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>>181066081
Yeah I think everyone who put that shit in their storages just kept it
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>>181066081
Same. They only took 1 (one) weapon.
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>>181066081
i doubt you kept many of them or that they are valuable.
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>>181066076
I mean Pass.
>>181065843
Circling and Pass are too strong in a game where hardly any classes have decent AoE.
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>tfw didn't enjoyed the dpk fiasco expect for one rare monster gem that imc didn't take from me and maybe I just got lucky
>didn't get "banned" so no huge compensation

being white is hard these days
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>circling
>enables almost any class and skill to be viable and aoe

>no circling
>doppels will need to go back to cyclone builds even if it's shit
>other classes are useless, elememe is king

I can smell the putrid elememe stench miles away, just accept that our birdbros are here to stay
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>>181066390
well, I just wanted to know which one is the popular chrono build everyone is talking about
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>>181066580
yeah but are you playing chaplain PD2 or chaplain inquisitor??? what's your build???
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CRINGE
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>>181066360
I've probably made over 80m in the course of 2 weeks from selling things slowly.
And I still have more to go.
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>>181066642
oh my fucking god I'm not that guy
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>>181060712
clever girl
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@181066673
yeah bs
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>>181066673
>surprise boxes
Wow! Scared the CRAP out of me!
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>>181066552
>elememes
>not being best buddies with fwee3 because Hail + Aiming
retard.
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>>181066552
You do realize Elememes benefit from Circling too, right?

I just don't understand what their goal for the game is when they nerf literally every single AoE in the game but leave Circling in place.
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>>181066806
>nerf literally every single AoE in the game but leave Circling in place

its almost like they want you to use it or something
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>>181065227
Repair does.
Not sure if Weaponbuff does.

Not a lot tho
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>>181066906
It's almost like they invalidate any other option to have any other build just because how good it is
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>>181066906
You're right my man, they should triple everyone's cooldowns and make Pass a 100% reset instead of set amount.
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>>181066758
>>
>how to fix Tree of Savior
Remove AoE ratio and AoE defense

WOW THAT WAS SO HARD
NOW ANY CLASS CAN BE VIABLE AND YOU CAN PLAY WHATEVER YOU WANT
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>>181066670
>white hair chupa ears
>pink hair bunny ears
not really helping with the stereotypes
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>>181067326
It's obvious that any faggot that actually cares about the stupid wedding shit is a literal virgin weeb. Avoid everyone with hipster glasses as well.
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>>181067000
Circling is made to make those shit AoE skills that you are talking about into being good. It's what support is made to do. Not to mention this is something that requires a 25m investment to make it actually useful.

>It's almost like they invalidate any other option to have any other build just because how good it is

So wait a minute anon? What you're saying is that IMC hasn't learned anything and continue to make the same mistakes?! Holy shit dude you broke the code and figured it out!

This isn't news to anyone with a brain you retard.This also isn't a matter of Falconer or Chrono being TOO good as its more a problem that people aren't willing to explore other options. If they murdered Falconer and Chronomancer either some other type of path with least resistance will show up and people will continue to follow that. It's called the meta for a reason. It's either that or Solmiki really is actually challenging and should be made easier once again.
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>>181067000
does it matter? you can clear solmiki 40f without it. what exactly is bothering you about it?
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>>181067587
I can't fit Falconer C3 into my Archer build and no one is going to take a DPS Archer when they can take 2 Chronos, 1 Falcon3, Elememe, and a Doppel.
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>>181067595
Theres no archers which are useful at all in ET that arent falconers
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>>181068041
a highly geared SR can be useful, but it requires a lot of investment
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>>181068041
Literally any archer with a stage 10 orange/lolo is better than your ungeared meme class
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>>181067975
>and a Doppel.
I see you doppelshit
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>>181068507
>ungeared
no such thing and irrelevant

meanwhile a doppel with stage 4 or 5 is infinitely better than any archer with stage 10 orange/lolo
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>>181068582
>>181068589
fucking doppels they are a shit class for shit people
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>>181068589
>meanwhile a doppel with stage 4 or 5 is infinitely better than any archer with stage 10 orange/lolo

nah, you're probably not doing solmiki or anything relevant
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>>181068589
and wtf does being better have to do with being useful?
you don't even need trans to do solmiki anymore, it's a joke
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>>181067587
You can actually make several classes and support viables, just make them situational. Sure your Krivis can't do X but it can do Y which people combo with Z and you can get into end game content, apply the same to every class/role. Right now you only need AoE and clear shit quick, Elememe and Chrono are king while Falc get some attention due to Circling.

I don't expect them to tone content around to make shit like having Aukuras -debuff time interesting to have, or having Summons eat some AoE from boss required, or having Paladin Barrier make the content doable while not having a Elememe, or having extremely Ice/Slash/Circling resistant monsters to force a different setup on some end game content, but it sure would make people think around 5 parties setups more than currently.
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>>181068782
It's sort of like how Taoist gets into groups because you can AFK floors in ET.
>>
ET is just not fun or challenging, that's the main problem. It shouldn't be a daily chore and it should be more rewarding/difficult.
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>>181068718
Doppels also melt away since they take, what, 20% more damage? Not to mention Sarkmis rips all your CON away, making you soft as fuck and if you wear leather you're also losing a ton of defenses. It's the literal glass cannon of the sword tree so why is it wrong for it to make such high gains?

Archers are ranged classes that can stand outside the influence of boss AoE spam, most of the time. You can react in time, while a sword has to stick his sword right up the bosses asshole and take whatever punishment that gives them.

Play a Doppel once and you'll see. It's a class that can only do ET. Can't even solo 290 with Orange gear without bonfiring every 3rd pull.

Fuck off already with that cock envy you tiny dicked cuck.
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>>181069185
The main problem is that ET wasn't designed for that, it was designed to force players to daily login and do it for shards.
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>>181069278
I don't think you've actually played an Archer. Their range is short as fuck.
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>>181069185
ToS is just not fun or challenging, that's the main problem. It shouldn't be a daily chore and it should be more rewarding/difficult.
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>>181069338
yeah, it's probably not going to change! i really like tos but i hate the endgame. it's not fun at all for me.
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>>181069370
I have and yes it is, for some builds. Some builds can increase their range and further with the drops from Library.

Archers have many "hit and run" abilities, while swords have 0 of those. Cyclone locks you in place and effectively silences you for 5.5 seconds. Totaling 11 seconds of being able to do fuck all. Thank fuck they made Zornhau a nice nuke and thank fuck I still have Vertical Slash that I can do quickly for burst, because half of the time I'm knockbacked or the boss moves away or I'm bursted to half health in 2 seconds because boss moves start at the center of the boss where they can deal 30x times the damage while on the outer ring they only hit an archer 2x. So many bosses brutally punish melee classes because it's near impossible to stick to them without dying or without being flown across the stage because Pain Barrier is on cooldown.

Try playing a Monk or Druid or Chaplain and go hit any boss you want. They can't even get 3 hits in before they are knocked the fuck down.

Meanwhile an archer has dropped traps, flares, headshots and is miles away from the bosses nose. Doppel is amazing but only if he has a cleric saving his ass all the time.

Tunnel visioning an entire class because a few whales on the forums spend 600$ on cash shop stuff to Stage 10 all their gear and thinking every doppel plays like that is retarded.
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>>181069916
>I'm knockbacked
>swordcuck
LOL
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>>181069516
I don't like the leveling either, I feel compared to a lot of MMORPGs it tends to either be very dull (boring quests, no itemization at all, no monster diversity, braindead mobs, bad spawns) or very annoying (mobs with frustrating skills which basically just means you buy dispellers to resume to braindead mobs, RNG heavy quests, random mobs resistances). Considering how deep the game can get, I feel like they don't even try to make it exploit all the stuff they created.
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>>181069916
>druid
>knocked down
And this is how we know you're full of shit.
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>>181069916
>knockbacked
>playing Sword without Pain Barrier
retard
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>>181069916
why are you in melee range anyway when you have your pocket fwee using aiming
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>>181070056
>I'm willfully ignorant and stupid
LOL
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>>181070327
Fuck yeah you are, Pain Barrier is 34 seconds.
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>>181070241
>you were wrong about one thing, so you're wrong about everything you posted
I forgot those furfags can't be knock backed, my bad. You rarely see those anymore.

My mistake on that part.
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>>181070327
>sword 1
Did you play cleric 1 too?
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>>181070441
>>181070475
Only builds that go Sword C3 are Shinobi and Fencer builds. Why are you then whining about Doppels who do not go Sword C2 or C3 at all? Only few snowflake retards do that and they always end up regretting it.

Those doppels you cry so much about only have that much pain barrier. So if they can do it, so should you.
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>>181070441
34 sec pain barrier is level 15 + sw3 attribute.
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>>181070623
Wow it's almost like you go full glass cannon with no utility and then complain about it
Muh barb
Muh hl
Should've gotten sword 3
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>>181070441
Anon....
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>>181070914
I'm not the one complaining you fuck bucket. The archer player is complaining about Doppels and whining about his archer builds.
I'm fine with being a glass cannon. Having 10+ more seconds of Pain Barrier isn't going to make Doppel any less of a glass cannon.
Sword C3 is a bad investment, even for PvP because they will nerf stuns and any kind of CC with diminishing returns.
Stay salty Archercuck.
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>>181070959
>>181070656
No reason to ever give up Sword3.

>lesser doppels blindly follow the meta and then complain about their own stupidity
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111122999.233f5f6785.3a45557585.1f3141536a7686a3
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>>181069916
>be archer
>drop ground aoe from miles away
>boss aggro you
>boss walk near you leaving the aoe
That's why you're forced to be in melee range as an archer, or a wizard, anyway.
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>>181071534
and you call this a good build?
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>>181071674
No, that is a Good Build.
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>>181046647
How do you run a dungeon with your friend as a 2 man party?
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>>181071707
it's not m8
>>181071743
Have you tried using a chaplain PD? jokes aside, do a party and then just hit on the enter button
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>>181071838
>chaplain pd
Inquisitor?
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>>181071674
>>181071707
>my build is superior because I spend 90% of all fights knocked down :^)
>>
what budget (<1m) rod/staff for a 260 elememe?
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>>181071905
better than ur mom 90% of the time knocked up
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>>181071887
PD? or inquisitor? what is it, /tosg/?
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>>181071534
>0 concentrate

AHAHAHAHAHA Throw that away.
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>>181072053
Superior Corona.
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>>181072165
>concentrate
>good
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>>181072219
Regular corona is the same value right now. Also shit, use a circle rod.
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>>181072087
the greatest question of our times.
but realy anon, which one is better?
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>>181071534
>no zwerchau
Neck yourself fucking retard
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>>181072063
Lmao hell yeah
That deserves a (You) and a hi5 but I'm on my cellphone
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>>181072261
>concentrate
>not good

Even with the rework Concentrate does a lot you're an idiot for never even getting it.
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>>181072261
>not wanting 30*4.5*356 unreduced damage

lmao
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>>181072165
>concentrate
>STR build
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>>181072165
>he puts points in DEX
fucking kek
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>>181072053
get 270
buy or farm 270 blue staff. get more cash if you need
other weapons are waste
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>>181072432
how much damage is concentrate giving you?
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>>181072425
ikr
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>>181072565
About 1k on that dex build I'm using.

Dex is still a fun build and going 1 stat gimped like what I did on my other class is not that good.
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>>181072520
migantis?
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>>181071534
>bash3
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>>181072840
>doppel3 without bash3
literally kys tier
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>>181072882
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>punish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>taking knockdown on a bossing build

dont ever dare reply to me ever again
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OK YOU FAGGOTS NOW I WANT AN ANSWER ON WHICH IS BETTER BETWEEN CHAP PD OR CHAP INQUISITOR
>ruining every chap player here

NAO ANSWER NAO
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>>181073153
I wanna know too
Currently wondering what to make this cleric2priest3 support for ET
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>>181073058
>specializing your build
>when you can move 4 points you weren't using on useful skills anyway for great aoe

Also my build isn't just a bossing build. Double Slash is amazing for AoE, but you wouldn't know because you still waste circles on High3 and Barb.
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@181073153
@181073303
kys
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>>181073303
chap diev taoist
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>>181073441
>@
You're newfag showed.
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>>181072830
i guess. dont know there names.

rods are shit now. especially white trash items like corona
270 and 315 blue staffs are still really good (for a cheap weapon)
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>>181072793
what the fuck, why do I want 1k on hit when my doppel is regularly hitting for 100k?
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>>181073740
You need to invest in more DEX so you stop hitting for 100k and the 1k from Concentrate turns into 2k.
>>
Just finished farming for the cafrisun set. Until which level can I use it?
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>>181074281
until you become a chaplain pd2
>>
girlfriend broke up with me so I came into a lot of time or really, just a week of literally nothing to do. I was level 126, just hit rank 5. How should i go about getting to level 300 in a week?

I have a lot of 8x exp tomes and some fortune cookies. Probably some reset vouchers. The issue with spam running missions and dungeons is that there isn't really anyone in the queue late at night so I have to stop when it hits 11pm till 3pm.
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>>181074281
Maybe until max.
If you have problems with dmg taken in dungeons, get a 2nd set of cheap plate armor near your lvl.
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>>181074420
Just buy clear vouchers and enter alone.
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>>181074405
nice meme faggot
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>>181073902
>Losing patk from STR so you can get flat damage from concentrate and DEX
What am I missing here?
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>>181074420
Liked and subscribed to your blog
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>>181074605
the joke
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>>181074578
Isn't that really inefficient? You get an eight of the exp.
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>>181074825
It's what I did, you don't miss out on as much EXP as you think, because that 600% you get from being in a party is split 5 ways. You also get way more silver doing it alone, I bought a 2 star clear voucher for 550k, used 2 multiply tokens from the event on the 140 dungeon, and got 800k silver and leveled from 140 to 170.
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I'm going to marry Giltine!
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>>181074825
600/5 party members against 100 all for you
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>>181075020
You can have her, she's gotten pretty loose after giving birth to my children.
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>>181075020
you're waifu is shit
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>>181075318
Good thing my cock is bigger than your manlet spawn
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>>181075408
What's a cock? I'm a girl.
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>>181075556
The "sausage" between Giltine's legs is called "a cock".
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>>181075014
>>181075102
ah I see. I'll take your advice then. thanks. is this as effective on the missions?
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s-sausage... ....... ...
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>>181070116
>braindead mobs
Please list some MMORPGs without this. I really want to try one one day,
>>
>>181077202
why are bunnies such whores?
>>
>>181078017
The biggest issue with mobs for me is the lag of the AI and the lag in general.
It's like your character is never actually where it really is and mobs always go past where you are and have some kind of delay for reaction.
>>
Literally no tokens on Klai's market
>>
Archer R9 released finally!
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>>181046647

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>>181079040
Uhm..... Futureproof isn't a filthy weeb guild.
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>>181079573
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Who to join? Futureproof or Cute?
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>talk around to solmiki attune group
>other guy says he has the rest of the group
>cool
>I sign up as DPS
>not insanely geared but ok (1x prac weapon+11, glass moles, sissels etc. "OK")
>two days pass
>they invite me
>2x Chronos
>1x PD2 lvl 317 Priest
>1x Inquisitor Priest
>mfw
>I tried my best and got us to 168/198, nearly alone.
>Then someone swapped their Inquisitor to a whale doppel (Stage 10, etc) and we tried again.
>We still failed the 2nd run with 10 mobs left.
>All eyes on me for being the let down.
>I didn't expect two chronos and being the sole damage source for that floor.
Why are orange mats so hard to farm guys?
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>>181080220
Fuck off we are full
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>>181080220
Cute is full, I don't know if there's anyone who doesn't play anymore to remove for space
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>>181080285
>failing 25f with a stage10 whale doppel
Literally how.
>>
We ne more skin tones
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>>181080536
>solmiki attune
>190 mob dps check
>25f
really, anon?
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>>181080536
I died.
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>>181080285
what's your build? and what stage is your weapon?
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>>181080730
Well I just meant 21-25.

>>181080758
>dying
>with 2 priests
Where they afk masturbating?
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>>181080907
He failed 16F...
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>>181081094
O-oh.
Well I found that actually harder than 21F
17F is the real evil though.
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>>181078017
Try dofus.
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>he doesnt have a math jew with him when he runs 290 with a thauma FF using 2x multiplication tokens
>>
I'm about to fall for the corsair3 meme
someone stop me but I just farmed 3 hours at pystis and didnt get a single drop with my thauma
>>
Is this game better or worth playing now, i stopped playing since november.
>>
>>181081463
You can't even clone 290 dung mobs and even if you could cloned mobs have different loot.
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>>181081368
>those graphics
kek
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>>181081516
QoL is much better, core gameplay is the same, although there was a gamechanging class/stat rework.
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>>181081516
they optimized it so it runs better
they balanced it so more classes are viable
they changed how defense works so it's no longer 1s or oneshots
they still haven't added much more PvE and PvP content so there's not many new things to do other than farming HGs
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>>181081649
nope they don't
and yes you can

stop this misinfo
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>>181081368
dofus is for nostalgia retards
wakfu is where it's at
>>
>>181081516
Idk, I just started back up again too and have no idea what any of my skills do. I think I'm retarded but I genuinely don't have a clue what any of my shit does or what I'm doing, I don't even know where I am half the time and I have quests that I've half done all over the place. If you're better than me at remembering how to play you should have fun.
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>>181081649
Wrong.
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>>181081728
>balanced so more classes are viable
>2x chronomancer meta
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>>181081998
that doesn't mean other classes are bad, just worse than double pass
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>>181081516
if you didn't like it back then you won't like it now
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>>181081368
>turn based
>not brain dead

what?
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>>181081669
sorry, you asked for enemies with more thought put on them, i obliged.
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>>181081998
Double chrono is meta because it's far easier to find a chrono than a second geared dps.
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>>181080285
>1x PD2 lvl 317 Priest
MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE GONE INQUISITOR???
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>>181081704
>QoL is much better
Like?
>>181081728
>they optimized it so it runs better
>they changed how defense works so it's no longer 1s or oneshots
Sounds great
>>181081839
I'm going to start back up again since last i remember i blew through my budget/saving for a wugu-musket.
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>>181082065
Yeah, other classes aren't bad, they're just worse than a class that requires no skill, attribute investment, or gearing investment. 3 of the 5 players that are in an ET group require no investment or thought at all. 1/5 requires a 20m silver investment for an attribute. 1/5 requires 500m silver in gear and attributes, and they have to actually play the game.
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>>181082402
what class are u talking about m8
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>>181082112
I liked it back then but the rampant cashgrab schemes combined with patching priorities and getting one shot killed just burned me out.
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>>181082402
there isn't such a class you fag
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>>181082597
LITERALLY read the previous post you dumb nigger. I'm talking about Priest3 Chap Inquisitor. If those worthless asshole just made a PD2 it would be so much better.
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>>181082728
And also fucking bots.
Are they still rampant?
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>>181081704
What's QoL
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>>181082831
kek, the 37th time is funnier
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>>181082929
Quality of Life
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>>181082728
>>181082889
its worse in terms of cashgrab and bots are pretty much the same
AFK farming has spiked by 3000% so that's basically bots though
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>>181082350
Stuff like >>181081728 said, but also enemies' health is more consistent across all maps, normal enemies can't do higher cc like knockbacks, elite mobs added instead that are souped up enemies to make up for normal enemies, Hunting Grounds are alternative grinding places with good gear for almost any level, DPK changed so there's always a chance for a drop and that chance increases until it resets when it drops, etc.

There's just been a lot in general.
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>>181082816
>level to Chrono 3
>press Pass

wow such amazing gameplay, and you have to buy that super expensive pass attribute of.... there isn't one
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>>181083016
Lol I can only imagine how that is defined.
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>>181083050
i can accept the cash grab as part of their business but the bots, yeah it's a make or break for me.
>>181083065
>There's just been a lot in general.
I'll check it myself later then.
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>>181081463
Posted about this a few days ago and got nothing but "no". Just try it anons. You'll thank me later when Artilonium prices tank and with it the price of orange recipies.
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>>181081368
I played that game years ago and got bored of it. I don't remember mobs being anything special.
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>>181083249
You won't find any bot except early maps.
AFK farming is limited to 2-3 maps and allowed by IMC, as weird as it sounds.
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>>181083304
>DPK gets removed and orange mats drop like crazy
>arti prices drop due to this class combo
>practo prices drop due to guilds being able to farm them easily

I'm ready for the 5m orange weapons.
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>>181083414
>AFK farming is limited to 2-3 maps
not for long homo
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>find out I have a ton of items in my steam inventory
>sell them all
>have $20 now

Should I even bother buying TP? It's been a while since I've had money I can only waste on silly steam shits.
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>>181083414
I know about AFK farming being allowed but that's another matter from bots entirely.
I still remember giving a wugu anon here a honeycomb card shortly before i transferred servers and finally quitting.
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>>181083414
Says someone who never played RO
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>>181083915
TP literally is the best way to get money in this game.

The Leticia cube is guaranteed to give you a ton of money.
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>>181083527
>Taking my sweet time avoiding the "end-game" activities
>Leveling my characters evenly to 330, buying HG gear off the market when I need it
>Running saalad and the level _50 dungeon when I need quick money

Fuck the economy, it's better to do this than worry about farming and fighting with everyone.
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>>181083992
I have plenty of in game silver, it'd just be for cute accessories I guess.
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>>181084000
>Not playing the same role as everyone else
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>>181083629
What matters are respawns, not damage.
My skellies have no problems killing Tymeris mobs, but money/h is shit unless there's some magic spot I'm missing.
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>>181083992
>a ton of money.
how much actually?
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>>181083992
>The Leticia cube is guaranteed to give you a ton of money.
>guaranteed
>an RNG gacha
>guaranteed
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>>181083401
Really? What level did you reach? Around level 120~ you get introduced to retarded ass bosses with 100% resistance to everything that have to be juggled+vuln for turns with both summons sacrifices and sacrier agi tanks keeping them at bay, alongside with instakill adds that unless dealt in a specific way will just come back. I'm really impressed if that's worse than ToS, not even kidding. Not saying it is better or worse, but they certainly require more tactic than ToS mobs.
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>just stopped to think and noticed that the last time I used the market to sell something or buy anything other than potions was at least 8 months ago
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>>181084332
Depends on your luck but it's common to get instance entry shit, gem abrasives and everything that sells for 400k, 500k, 3m, 5m and 20m. All for 10 TP.
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>>181084570
TIME TO START BUYING GOYS
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>>181084570
TOP LEL
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>>181084000
I've never done Saalad, not a single time, and I have 8 level 317+ characters. I have a rainbow of level 315 blue gear, I have a purple +11 level 40 sword/bow/mace/staff that I use until my purple +11 level 170 sword/bow/mace/staff that I use until my +11 level 315 weapons.

I just like killing things and trying new builds. My dream for this game is for them to remove dungeons and increase the HP/damage/EXP of all monsters outside of dungeons so I can just run around killing things all the time.
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>>181084570
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>>181083992
>The Leticia cube is guaranteed to give you a ton of money.
No, costume gacha is the one that has guaranteed money
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>>181084570
Buying silver from the chinese is going to give you actual money
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>>181083992
>The Leticia cube is guaranteed to give you a ton of money.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/900-tp-and-not-companion/364877
Don't fall for his lies
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>>181084872
This. It will always give you medals and medals will always give you something expensive in return.
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>>181085010
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/900-tp-and-not-companion/364877
t. my first time playing gook MMOs
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>>181085010
>>181085429
Why do people do this? That's like $4000 in TP when you can get 20m silver to buy the thing from like 2 weeks of dailies on a couple of characters.
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>>181085569
Some people really like to gamble.
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lel
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>>181085569
Some people are natural born gambling addicts.
I won't deny that i didn't gamble on ToS but i only did it to get cute costumes and sttrictly limit it to 20 boxes.
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>$20 for an in game haircut
>I got my hair cut for $10 last week

uhmmm
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>>181086126
but you are not a cute girl, girl haircuts are around $25
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>>181086284
Wow, rude. I thought I was a pretty cute girl.
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>>181081472
Another hour
Still no drop
fuck this shitgame
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>>181086126
>Chooses 198 TP haircut when 15 TP haircuts exists
You do know it's expensive due to using tonics to grow your hair out in a few seconds and make it strong enough to take abuse.
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>>181086413
I'm a boy, why would my hair take abuse?
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>>181086413
I want to be a peasant without looking like a peasant. Looking in this game's TP shop, there's not really anything worth buying.

I'm trying hard to decide between buying Dead Cells for $14 or spending $10 on this game for 3 character slots.
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>>181086667
You'd be better off buying steam games due to sales, you'd get more value for your money there.
I rarely spend on anything besides a token.
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>>181086284
I'm no girl but I would willingly pay $100 for every haircut if it was ever done nicely on me.
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>>181087340
Must suck to be an uggo.
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>>181087391
Thankfully I'm not, but it's difficult to have nice hair when everyone who does haircuts within 100 miles seems to think it's wrong for boys to have it long.
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On the subject of dungeon time limit (thauma+kabbalist farming related) we tested it.

We put an alt into the 50 dungeon earlier today, and left it there for an hour. At around the 55 minute mark we saw a message saying "The instance will close in 5 minutes" or something along those lines, on the middle of the screen. So we were pretty sure the limit is still there.

But then we decided today to push our luck with the 290 farming. The whole cloning and swelling and all that, that I'm trying to sell to you guys for a reason. Mainly even though this general is a waste sometimes, there are some cool anons out there so this tip is for you anyway. Well in any case, it seems like there is no time limit for the 290 dungeon or it's longer than 60 minutes. As you can see in this screenshot the time we entered and the time at the top right. We wen't way over the 60 minute mark and even when fighting the boss we got no warning message about 5 minutes left.
So in conclusion: There is a time limit on (some) dungeons, 290 might not have it.

Either the devs forgot to put it in or left it out on purpose.

So I say to all of you fellow anons to go and farm 290 with a Kabbalist buddy. We just banked 24x artilonium in a single 60 minute period, can post proofs. Sure, we were lucky, but this wouldn't have happened if you'd just run it like normal.

>inb4 plebbit formatting i don't have any friends, misinfo agent replies
youpreferifItypeeverythinglikethisinthefutureon?
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>>181087674
Learn how to cut your own hair anon, It isn't that hard.
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>>181087674
Cut your hair, faggyhippie.
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>>181087750
I should and definitely need to start.

>>181087842
It's cute.
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>>181087718
ok but if i'm going priest3 chaplain should i go kaballist or pd2 or inquisitor????
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>>181088182
Yes, you should!
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>>181088389
Do you have a single evidence to back that up?
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>>181088182
I don't know. Chaplain is a bit of a meme to me.

Kabbalist is just a pure farmer. The clones only last like 10 seconds.

I'd just focus on damage related classes.
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>>181087718
fuck me for not taking oracle in my kabba build, trying it is going to feel so incomplete when I find motivation to
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>>181088469
Chaplain IS a damage class.
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>>181088441
Of-course , right there https://www.google.com/search?q=math+and+youtube
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>>181087750
This sounds like something a poor person would do
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>>181088702
My sister cuts my hair, it's like a little family bonding thing. You should get a family member to cut your hair.
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>>181088518
Oracle isn't THAT important. Just Kabbalist is for this farming method. Oracle lets you reset loot but that's all it does, it won't help that much in this farming. What you want is Clones and that's it.

Every mob, apart from the archers, has an 8 or a 9. You can clone every mob in the corridoor, room before orb to be 8x as much.

Oracle is just a bonus to do when clone is on cooldown. It mostly gives us nothing, but today we got lucky. You're completely fine without Oracle, as long as you have Laima or your Thauma has Pass. Something to reduce the cooldown of Clone.

Only time we find oracle very useful is when we farm for DPK items. Sometimes we spot the 1 mob in a corner. We want to kill it, but what if it has the DPK item? Well, clairvoyance helps. We can check. If it doesn't, we leave it alone, because we want to use the big cooldowns (swell, link) on groups and not go for single kills if possible to keep the kill count higher.

Resetting is too long of a cooldown to be that useful for anything else than farming Manahas set with 2 other people (Thauma+Chrono). So don't worry, your build is good.
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Hey /tosg/ what class(es) do you recommend for someone who has a dual pistol fetish?
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>>181088896
pd2 or inquisitor
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>>181079040
are there lewd girls in fp?
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>>181088896
Schwarzer Reiter, although it's crossbow + pistol but it's the closest you'll get.
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>>181088816
good, I'll definitely try it soon and see how it goes
keep up the amazing work and thanks for bringing all of this up
really love you even more for not being a muh sekrit bitch, wish I weren't so lazy to explore and share things like this
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Fuck you tosg. Stop bullying poor RedJoe
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what the fuck
>get multiplier from based hoglan
>go in for the 170 for a full clear
>not getting any silver at all

tell me this is just a visual glitch lmao
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>>181089363
Just remember, use multiply tokens and make sure the loot is set to "individual" and the person doing the damage (Thauma) is the one using those tokens.

Best of luck.
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>>181084482
>instant kills are mechanics
So for MMORPGs, my choices are
>"Braindead" mobs
>Artificial difficulty and insta kills

I don't know what level I reached because it was way back when. (This image says it's from Dec 22, 2005) I don't know how it is now, but it was a freemium game then where you were limited to a certain area and then not allowed to progress anymore unless you pay them some Frogbux. Whatever bosses you're talking about probably weren't in back then anyway. It was just a flash game in a little flash box, if they've changed it to something more reasonable since then.

Also
>Turn based

I remember liking its market system for a reason I can't remember but I'm sure it's been changed.
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is gazing golem card good?
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>>181090670
better than nothing
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>>181090670
Useless card fodder, if you have some sell them in the market for 100k or less since they're totally bad
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>>181090670

noticeable with 8 cards but not very useful desu
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>>181090670
I like it but its probably pointless to have more than 2 or 3.
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>>181090670
It's good to have one in your Elememe.
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>>181079040
Who is the biggest attentionwhore in Futureproof?
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>>181091462
Still lolipan even though he "quit"
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>>181091541
>Some hours later
>Wow I don't even post anymore but you guys still love me I can't believe it
>I'm sad with how the game went but at least you guys love me
>Goes back to Atom
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>1 day and change left on ET reset vouchers
>Still haven't done it
I hate letting them go to waste, but would I even find someone willing to just carry me up the tower to see it?
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is this the ultimate spartan blockmachine build?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333444c.253555.16263a415161758591.17213f4f516571.1121334575
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>>181092529
I don't like wasting the gifts the game gives, but I put away the ET vouchers and never looked at them again.
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>>181092725
>Blockmachine
>Didn't max high guard

Don't you enjoy everything doing no damage?
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>>181088702
No anon, It's what a competent and a hygienic person would do,
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>>181092995
>You are filthy and retarded if you have your hair cut by a trained person instead of going DIY like me
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What happens when you go to a map with enemies like 20 or 50 levels above you now? Can you kill them and not get 1-shot, or do they only do 2x your hp bar instead of 10x while you do 1s?
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>>181094031
You can kill shit 300 levels above you with
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>>181093945
replace "hair cut" with "butt wiped", "body washed", "clothes dressed", "nose blown", or "food fed". Why treat hair cuts differently?
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>>181094327
Not him, but is this post serious or a shitpost? I honestly find this hard to believe. I can't imagine your hair doesn't look like shit, please post pics.
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>>181094327
Next you're going to tell us that you make your own clothes
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>>181094464
>Long haired hippie who wishes he had a hair metal 'do thinks others' hair looks like shit
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>>181094626
I play solo self found
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>>181094327
You're taking this far further than intended
Sure you can make your own house and end up with a shitty shack that falls over at the first breeze, or ask someone who knows what they're doing and make something satisfying.
Sure you can get scissors or grab a knife and cut your hair like a homeless fuck, or visit someone who trained for this shit and make you look pretty
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>>181094327
Replace those with surgery and kill yourself.
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>>181096269
By the definition of surgery, I have performed surgery on myself to remove splinters.
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>>181096901
>splinters.
Booohooo. Did it hwurt wittle baby?

Sorry I just had to with the absurdity of this statement. Not even that anon.
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>>181095934
Just train yourself to cut hair, you lazy fuck.
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Using a controller I've run into a very annoying bug of sorts, sometimes when I log back into a character or use the keyboard temporarily and switch back to controller it will displace my keys based on the keys of my keyboard layout.

Is there any way to have it properly save and keep the controller layout?
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>>181093945
>Cutting hair is hard
Jesus christ anon, it's just like cutting paper.
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>>181097758
What's absurd about it?
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>>181097929
Surgery is usually a term used for MAJOR alterations on the body to remove foreign objects or fix something broken inside the body.
Splinters are so inconsequential you just pick it out from the skin.

This makes it funny. Since the word is technically correct but absurdly used on a really really small scale of it.
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>>181097779
Just train yourself to build your house, you lazy fuck.
Just train yourself to make anything you ever intend to use in life, you lazy fuck.
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>>181097918
Cutting it isn't hard, but making it look good is the issue
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>>181098626
>>181097918
Just use a fukken head shaver. With those safety attachment things. BAM. Instant almost bald head that lasts for 4 months.
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>>181097918
Yeah try cutting paper behind your head into complex patterns with no do overs and no practice. You could get 100 people off the street to try that and not a single one would pull it off perfectly.

>>181098920
Then you're bald for 4 months, which is the failure we're trying to avoid here.
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>I run around with a buzzcut
Yeah you look like shiT
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>>181099297
Ever heard of mirrors you fuck?
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>>181098173
>Just train yourself to make anything you ever intend to use in life
I mean why not? You just going to be someone's bitch forever if society collapses?
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>>181099495
Did I say anything about not being allowed to use mirrors, faggot?
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>>181099684
Most likely scenario, yes.
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>>181099684
Well he's someone's fuccboi already.
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There should be an MMO with a hair cutting minigame. You buy a hair cut coupon and then you have to cut your character's hair into the style you want.
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>mfw I have 3 wizards
>but I had 2 recipies anyway :^)
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>>181099684
If society collapses I won't have to worry about haircuts anymore, so why would I care about learning how?
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>>181100382
Why wouldn't you? Your hair isn't going to stop growing just because you have to reform civilization, nor were haircuts invented in modern times.
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I've frequented the monster girl general for months and they've never had an argument as autistic as cutting your own hair. Well done, tosg.
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>>181100613
I probably wouldn't even live long enough for it to grow enough to be in the way, but if I did, nobody would really care how it looks when I'm busy fighting a guerrilla war or hiding in the woods. Who cares about whether haircuts were invented in modern times when prehistoric hunter/gatherer tribes still had functioning small scale societies?
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>>181100283
Stop talking about this game. This is hairG on /fa/
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/hcg/
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>>181100650
I thought you were talking about the one on /jp/ for a moment and I was ready to drown you in "WRONG"
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>>181100650
Explain what this thing is
>>181099506
>>181100214
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>>181103326
That just seems so fucking stupid
It makes me happy we're discussing cutting hair
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>>181066552
Aiming is the true MVP of Falcon3 combos
Aiming+Hail is the strongest
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So is the Helga card any good?
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just let it die
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Man I'm poor as fuck right now trying to get money for Aspana mats using my Manamana, I got a few dudes, still got event gear and trying to jump into proper gear before it runs out (8~ days)

Where can I farm with just Manamana after I run out of DG140/170 runs and CM?

I've been doing District 2 but 2* gems take 50 to get a 5* gem and my 5* gems ain't selling for shit (Orsha).

I tried Timerys for the 3* gems so I can level them faster, and HG240, didn't end well for me, but I was using Cafrisun gear.

Eastern Leather/Eaglestar are looking like a good midpoint, are they worth grabbing for the armor over Cafri?
Any good tips on farming spots that aren't raped by necrobots?
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>>181108342
just buy a bunch of TP or silver 100$ or so should do you good
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>>181108342
Eaglestar will be enough to farm for some later HG gear, I'd say.
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>>181108342
Just RMT if you really want your shit without wasting time like us.
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>>181105623
It's a weaker Netherbovine, not joiking, DON'T GET SCAMMED BY PEOPLE SELLING HELGA CARD
Buy Netherbovine if you want that kind of summon
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>mfw this only gave me 10
>10/61 to go
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>>181110486
Helga's normal attack is stronger though.
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>>181108342
I'd say Cafrimeme is all you need if all you do is farming, the stat and def from HG is not that great except you wanna go for critrate build
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>>181110739
That's actually pretty fast. 186 kills per Leaf nut tail is good.

Orange weapons are generally build over 1 month.
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>>181110875
Thauma. Meaning I only got 5 drops. Go look at the map, channels 1 to 3 are hard camped by one player with an Aspana.

>First drop at 50 kills
>Next drop at 260 kills (felt so lucky)
>Next drop 720 kills
>Next drop at 1400 kills
>Last drop at 1800 kills

My eyes hurt. I didn't take breaks. I ventured to the wrong map part and a red spawned. Mobs were too packed and I got 1x antenna that I couldn't swell.
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>>181110784
And Templememe AA is stronger than both
You pick Netherbovine/Helga for silver farming in Tymeris or dungeon as poor man SR
If you invest in Helga you better off investing in an Aspana at that point
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>>181111035
Why are you even farming right now? DPK removal soon and orange mats will be worth nothing.
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>>181111035
Keep at it. Spread out the play time. There is no rush. We built our orange weapon over 3 weeks or something. We grinded till we got one drop (swelled) then took a break. Unless one dropped early.
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>>181111118
>soon
About a month to 6 weeks or so is not soon my dude
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>>181111264
hmmm i could farm an orange over the course of 6 weeks, or I could just wait 6 weeks while farming raw silver and get it instantly
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>>181111118
>soon
Might take 1 to 3 months to arrive. I simply want to make the weapon and begin Solmiki farming already.

>>181111154
Boss patch soon. Gotta be able to contribute or no rings for this guy.
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>>181111320
>solmiki farming

And this is where you fucked up.
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>>181111319
Hmmm or you can farm an orange in about a week?
that dude got 10/61 in a day
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>>181111357
why? I want armor that has stats so good they most likely will be relevant for over a year
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>>181111320
You want to farm solmiki but you also want bossrings?
You know that 7/7 solmiki blows any other combo out of the water by miles right?
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What's a good Wugushi C3-x-Mergen build? I don't have another slot for a Falcon.
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>>181112276
Rogue for capture memes
Scout for utility
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>>181112276
Buy 33 Tp. Get Falcon. Falcon is just insane on a Mergen. It's almost foolish not to get it if your build can afford to get a falcon.
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>>181112276
Get Falcon. Circling + homing arrow to crash people ;)
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Will I get more mileage with SR or Scoot as QS3Rog3? Can't decide
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>>181105623
The main aoe is all it has going for it. That's on a long cooldown, and it's enough trouble finding one of them, let alone two to morph. The single target damage against bosses is disappointing. It does shatter magic circles like the field boss, so there's utility potential, but that probably won't matter unless they bring PVP back.
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>>181112979
Scout for sure.

You can reposition yourself for backstabs/Stoneshots due to cloak and the burrow ability together.
You also get to choose when to start a battle or when to end it if you manage your cooldowns properly.
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>>181111527
I know, which is why I'm trying to geat a 2nd character to do solmiki with. Doing it with just 1 character I realized how long it will take.

The boss rings are for alts. I plan on Transcending the solmiki for one character and the boss rings are purely for alts who cannot get into Solmiki (Druid, Murmillo etc.) AoE ratio is no joke for a Murmillo. I doubt I'll ever get 7/7 Solmiki due to how long it takes if I'm honest, so I'm aiming for 4/4 at least and then getting those rings to farm the rest of Solmiki. Lets face it, it takes a month to just get an item. But those boss rings might take a few weeks, provided I can get boss kills. The rings will be sold for prime money for the first month. I'm expecting 80m, then 60m and eventually it'll most likely settle at 30m (just for the recipe) until IMC cash shops it and it'll be 15m like current orange recipies.

They replaces Sissels and I'm tired looking at these shit rings.
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>>181052374
Artist?
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>that looks cheap for the effort- oh
>mfw this will be the fate of my solmiki
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>>181114454
You should have slot that first
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>>181113579
Great, thank you!
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>>181113679
Practonium accessory dont replce Sissels, the magic ones though replace Archmage and the set bonus is very good
Physical DPS gets more from 7/7 Solmiki Leather bonuses but until 6/7 2x Sissels are better than both new rings and solmiki rings
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>>181111320
Physical boss rings aren't such a major update from Sissel considering they are way way way more worse to craft than any practonium weapon and they are weaker than a full Solmiki leather set, which is easier to get than these fucking rings
Dont save for them
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>>181111118
You realize DPK removal will benefit only drops like BB and Manhas or similar retard low density mob farming DPKs?
Practonium weapons mats would be perfect like it is now if other channel would contribute on boosting it but cant steal a drop
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>>181111319
hmmmm i crafted Aspana in a week, spent 0 silvers
>not bought the recipe
>not bought the 2x practonium
>not bought the artilonium
>farmed all the Kugheri Swords, took 5 days, around 12k kills total
>farmed the leafnut tails, took 2 days, less than 1200 kills total
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>>181115861
>contribute on boosting it but cant steal a drop
???
No
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If I make an Thauma FF, what is the minimum weapon I need for 315 farming? I am pretty new so I don't really have access to that 315 pract mace.
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Ktos got fishing on live server now
But ded game

and
>option to hide HP,SP bars in settings
>can move player HP,SP,sta,Lvl,Class thing around (without addons)
>silver box removed from medal shop
other stuff is same as kTEST patchnotes
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=760
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>>181118148
oh, this link
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=759

and a resource bar for necro/wugu/etc
>2 in pic (i dont have these classes)
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nice too
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>>181117067
I used a purple Rod, but someone told me they did fine with like 2.5k base m.attack before arm buffs.

Maybe Blue HG Rod? (+dagger for arm buff)
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>>181118510
Well I already own a pajoritas dagger, so I can get away with just using a purple migantis or pevor?
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>>181118743
Try the blue ones, maybe +6 them. Dont need a lot of m.attack if you do it right.
I often didnt use the buffs, but maybe you need to.
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>>181118743
A cheap blue will be good enough until you upgrade to purple pract mace. I was able to farm pystis with a +11 artie snake rod + dagger at lv290. For reference, I had ~2.6k matk before swell buffs and 3.6k after.
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>>181118932
I can probably scrunge up the money by 315 but I'll keep that in mind that I can get away with a blue one. Thanks.
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>>181050149
What's wrong with ET plate? It's the most versatile set if you don't intend to transcend so you can move it between both physical and magic using characters
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Are karacha daggers popular?
I got 2 recipes and wondered if I should trade one or craft then trade it
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Have a Hasta plate set. Is it worth to anvil and put reds in them? Purple 315HG plate set is out of reach for me at the moment.
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Nope
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Why is Sissel bracelet so coveted? Isn't a gladiator/phada better? Can you maintain the buff? I barely seem to miss.
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Why this shit's attack range only work on melee characters?
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>>181118360
Those are some pretty phallic looking bars.
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>>181122526
literally only for the crit rate
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>>181122526
Crit rate
>but you literally cant get 51% rate without whaling
Nothing still beats sticking the more you can but green gems are shit
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So what decks are you guys playing on Shadowverse?
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>>181123531
Control blood, Spawn is so fucking op this is ridiculous.

Does the Bear Eyemask really drop from Saalus? https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57150
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Haven't played since release, how's the game doing?
Did they did that performance patch that was announced?
How are the servers? (specifically Silute)
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Yes
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still toxic as ever
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https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1032

Are you ready for your enclosed combat sports?
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so, /tosg/
Mace+Arde dagger or Mace+Ledas shield
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>>181124764
but is it fun?
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>>181124896
HAHA THE GAME IS STILL NOT P2W YOU DUMB POORFAGS. YOU CAN JUST DO SAALUS A GORILLION TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS WITH 10 CHARACTERS A DAY TO CATCH UP TO ME!
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>>181124054
yes it does
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Rechecking, are these /tosg/ advised builds any good?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111222999.354a5a65.34415a657a8a95.1f557a8a95
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.23354552.38465a657a8195.1595b5.1f456a768691a2
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>>181124765
>We also considered mining, but we didn’t want to risk abusing anyone’s graphic cards, so we crossed that out for now.

What was it going to be like purifying the Europeans and wreck your game's FPS?

>>181125030
Or I can just farm and buy it in a week from the market.
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>>181124765
>working to bring these updates into the game within one or two months
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>>181125442
>What was it going to be like purifying the Europeans and wreck your game's FPS?
No, he meant like mining bitcoins. They were going to use your GPU to mine bitcoins for themselves and then they reward you in-game with silver.
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>Q: If you have plans to expand the fishing function, do you also want to develop other life contents for Tree of Savior?
>A: We’ve considered things like car racing [...]
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>>181125976
>Taking anything they said in that paragraph seriously
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>>181125976
Can i drift my penguin?
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>>181113729
Yeah a performance artist.
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>>181125976
Now we all get sports cars!
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>>181124765
>open a fancy bar and invite celebrities to exclusive parties
Which /tosg/ celebrity would you invite?
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>>181126857
swaaz
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>>181124313
sauce plz
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>>181118360
That's some good stuff.

>>181125976
Eurobeat intensifies. They noticed the sportscar memes.
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RIP IN PIECES MY NAEGOR
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>>181127669
how much did those shards cost you in real $$?
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>>181127795
About 1.13 kWh of electricity
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I wonder what their reaction was when they finally read the description properly
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>>181127669
Jesus christ
why can I never find these retards
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>For one, we fixed the error that made characters appear in a different position after being knocked down or becoming incapable of combat.
Finally.

>we ran thorough simulations to ensure that the items weren’t dropping less than before, and then we set the drop rate a little higher than that. One thing we did was double the supply of Monster Gems
Drop rates officially raised. Suck it, orange mat farmers.

>We have a summon behavior improvement patch
Summons will still be completely retarded.
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>>181128138
Can we really trust the translations in this game?
Better safe than sorry. Take this oddly phrased one for example.

https://tos.neet.tv/items/504117
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>>181129116
It's pretty easy to understand what it means.
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>>181128886
sowhen are we gettin the drop increase patch?
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What's so good about the five hammer? the 5 slots so you can socket in 5 red gems?
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>>181129116
You can simply look up the korean text for that one and compare it to other cards.
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>>181115952
>got 57 Kugheri's sword in under 12k kill
Wtf, I killed like 20k of them and only got 40pc
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>>181128886
raised from .001% to .002%
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>>181130645
It's 0.01% already, that's a 0 too much.
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>>181124765
Wow, they even addressed the fact that overheat didn't really make sense in terms of its cooldown. These dev interviews are getting pretty chock-ful of info, I like it.

>Teases new classes at the end
SOON
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>>181131535
its the RO experience
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>>181132472
Well if you want some non-info a GM in fedimeme mentioned big updates at the end of summer. Which could be the ported ktos patch I guess.
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I bought 100 TP so I could buy character slots, but what do I do with my leftover 72 TP?
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>>181132793
buy more character slots
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>>181132793
you mean you bought (a) character slot

dunno what 72tp is gonna get you beyond 2 more slots
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>>181132974
>>181132989
I guess so. Now I can finally level my priest3 chap pd2
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>>181133090
dunno anon, maybe you should have gone chap inquisitor
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>>181133282
i'm gonna need videos, spreadsheets, data, analysis, results, and conclusions to back that claim up, mister
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>>181133374
>>181133282
This shit is becoming annoying
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>>181133487
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>181133754
Do you have any basis for asking that anon about facts?
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>>181129440
yeah but nowadays it's not that great past a certain point cause weapons have higher patk and matk values and the hunting grounds make it so there are a lot of cheap, good weapons in the market for leveling
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>>181134358
uhmm, i can see their cunnies
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Does -Add X property damage- always proc to add a line of damage to aoutoattacks or is it percentage based?
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>>181135159
nevermind, just seen it wasn't "additional"
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>>181135159
that wording means it doesn't add a line to auto attacks, it just adds the damage to every line. If I'm correct, the added property damage applies after skill factor too, so it doesn't get scaled by it either
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>>181135425
so a shield would be better even if it gets 60 less elemental damage due to having block rate/phisical defence, right?
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>>181134358
WHat are these marks on the inside of their thighs?
Bruising from overuse?
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>>181135907
it's hard callous skin from years of being pounded missionary non-stop
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>>181135634
yes, for most builds it's not worth it unless you're hitting a lot of times, added property damage is only good for classes with a lot of hits. I'd say stuff like PD can benefit from it a lot since it applies to all of their DoT ticks, or any class that has a lot of damage lines can also benefit from it because it applies to every line (like chaplain or anything using manahas like a SR) but for most other classes it's not really worth it.
Fun fact: I stacked ele damage on my budget SR that I use to clear the 140 dungeon, using stuff like agny and hats with ele damage because it's using cafrisun so it has 3 lines of damage and ele damage applies 3 times if I'm not wrong.
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>>181135958
Makes sense to me
Peltas are mega sluts who've been trained to spread their legs to attract monsters from circle1

Who is that left class supposed to be though?
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>>181135987
using cafrisun too, but at lvl 200 dungeon mobs start to hit hard and maybe the added defence from the shield would help. Mahanas set seems like a huge pain in the ass to farm
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>>181135907
Yeah
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>Fished-up fish can't be fed to Penguins
Explain this tosgtards.
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>>181137175
buy your tp food goy
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Is krivis the sadhu of 2017?
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>>181139627
Sadhu wasn't THIS shit
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So basically with leveling being a joke and drop rates being bugged to stupid high levels the only meaningful differences between players will be number of blessed shards and number of Necros.

Yay?
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>>181139875
Shards are cheap as hell though
Its just necro accounts or wallets now
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>>181139875
leveling is honestly tapering off b/c the events suck and new accounts don't get any of the compensation (you might get 3 exp tomes, but not the huge comp package)
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>>181140372
Its still a joke though
It's gotten buffed considerably
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>>181140447
not really, it's not like you can go from 0-300 in one week without comp item/shekel items
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>>181124765
>we wanted to adjust the balance of Pardoner shop buffs in a way that doesn’t make them vastly superior to Priest buffs, but without taking too much from the convenience or performance of general Pardoner buffs
>We’re still considering other changes to Pardoner shop buffs
I'll trust you this time Kim, don't le me down please
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>>181140447
just saying you can't straight 1-330 in 12 hours or whatever on a new account unless you RMT or give shekels

the leveling in this game is pretty dumb desu. pardoner buffs shouldn't be usable by new chars, it makes the first ~150 levels pointless.
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>>181115952

How many hours were you playing each day that week? I'm considering crafting one too but the swords really put me off because they're 1.7mil on my server, so I thought they were hard to get.
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>>181141168
Why dont you just farm something else and use the money to buy the dpk mats? It's a lot easier than being frustrated and worried all time that someone might've already taken your drop.
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>>181141352

I'm on Orsha so there's a very inconsistent supply of DPK mats in the market. There's only 3 swords in the market right now for example, and I never see shouts for them.

When I was farming the mats for my main's red weapon I honestly found the "stealing drops" a mental thing, if it was pure RNG I could go long stretches without getting the item anyways.
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>>181140740
Huh? You can most definitely do that

>>181140817
1-330 in 12 hours is insane but even the normal leveling is way too hard

I made a lvl 317 in 5 days of casual playing
It was not a new account but I had no compensation items because they got deleted accidentally so I just leveled normally
Its insane how fast you level now
Just by doing the mainquests while leveling and having always access to cards of previously explored maps

Boosted up dungeons
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>>181141828
How the fuck did you manage to level up that fast?
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>>181141828
highly doubt that claim or our definitions of "casual" are very different

without comp or shekel items, there is no way you are "casually" getting to 317 in 5 days at a few hours a day (e.g. 15 hrs). no fucking way.
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>>181141828
>317 in 5 days
>with no Tomes
>nor resets or multipliers
I call bullshit
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>>181141994
>>181142032
>>181142061
Okay the penguin event helps a bit so its not 100% without any extras
but the only thing I used from that was the multipliers on the 140 and on the 260
Rest was just questing
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>>181142032
>>181142061

I'm not him but I did 1-317 without multipliers in about 6-7 hours with the anvil event+cookies+firecrackers+8x tomes, without the help of map cards. 8x tomes don't literally triple your experience so 15 hours of play seems doable.

The issue is like you said the dungeon limits cockblock you. You need to run some of them more than 3 times to get into the bracket for the next one.
>>
>Ragnarok
>Merchant class
>Still useful in both fighting and jewing

>ToS
>1-2 merchant class in each job
>Barely useful outside jew build
how do we fix merchant class?
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>>181128138

this is the best shoggoth card iirc
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>>181142331
you also used a shitload of multipliers/reset vouchers for this, guaranteed
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>>181142427

Merchants were not moneymakers in practice besides Overcharge, Discount, and Vending. Overcharge and Discount were stupid and Vending isn't something you should put into one class. You needed to be specific builds to craft potions or weapons and those builds were useless otherwise.

>>181142581

No multipliers, but I did use my Sage on another computer to warp me where I needed to go. I did use reset vouchers as I said - that's why I specified that the dungeon limits cockblock you.
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>>181142746
and the point was that people are suggesting this is possible on a new account

it's not. you have 0 comp (3 exp tomes at best, maybe). you have the penguin and the firecracker event for a couple days. pirate event is trash, clover event is over. no MAGA weaps. no 8x tomes, no reset vouchers, no instance multipliers.

there is literally 0 way to 1-300+ in <15 hours with no comp or shekel items.
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>>181142941
No team level bonus too.
I'd say many in this general are lv 50+.
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you fucks are really addicted to the free compensations and good events
try actually leveling a character from 1 to 300-330 without popping every exp boost and show me you getting to cap in a day
stop spewing bullshit and misinfoing about things you will never try anymore
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>>181142941

I guess I missed that. I just saw people saying it wasn't possible in 5 days without multipliers. You're right that with no events at all it's not possible in less than 15 hours with no funding.

I will say I agree with the general sentiment that it's much easier than it used to be, though.
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>>181143402
>in a day
no one claimed that, take your pills
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does \m still work in crashing dg?
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>>181145704
>\m
explain right now
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>>181136476
Why isn't there ever any ero of female monsters?
>>
Fellow Solmiki autists:

Am I looking at it wrong or is this the best setup for a wizard:

Leather Chest
Cloth Boots+Gloves+Bottom
Pract Medal+Bracelets

The 4 and higher set bonuses for any of them are unbelievably shit for matk classes.
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>>181148037
At least we have >>181127287
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>>181148493
Way to go on ruining pirates, anon
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>>181148420
The last bonus is just a fucked up description
its matk instead of patk so you always want cloth
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>>181148037
I know this feel bro.
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>>181148705

Really? I believe you since IMC but do you have proof anywhere?
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>>181148037
hmmmmm
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Because it's BS
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>>181148768
No that's what people are saying
But even if its true, now that I think about it the benefits of the high INT leather top and also the active of the pract medal/bracelet might just be better than a full solmiki cloth even with the full matk bonus
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>>181148895

Yeah, it certainly makes sense for it to be matk and not patk, but IMC said a while back they purposefully put INT on the leather top for whatever reason. So I wasn't surprised to learn that the cloth set supposedly had a patk bonus.

I only ever see the leather and plate sets so it's hard to get sure information from someone who has it and it's one hell of a thing to make a mistake on/test.
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>>181148037
because an androgynous doppel/fencer fuccboi pumping a rafene pregnant is not nearly as hot
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>>181148864
I remember vividly how the reddit side of this general were arguing how Elets and the other monsters under Giltine are children and you shouldn't get aroused by them.

Ha ha, who is laughing now.
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>>181149146
Rafenes aren't girls... I think.
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>>181149146
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>>181148895
Solmiki leather armor 52 int = 130 matk or so
pract bracelets x 2 = 74 matk
set bonus = 120 matk
pract medal = 25 int + 49 matk = 100 matk or so
= 420 (dude) matk or so permanently

Solmiki set has nothing of that except that last matk bonus
which is 571

So solmiki looks higher, but the proc seems to be extremely strong from the 3/3 pract set so I would just get that instead
its more offensiev
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yiff in hell
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Why is the mouse control in his game so bad? How can you fuck this much on a MMO?
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>>181149430
Pawnd/els are the only child like demon chicks. (also you'd think there's be some art of all the times you need to interact with them or steal their skirts)
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>>181149801
And I need porn of them right now.
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>>181149801
So many demons in this game have such retarded horns
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>>181150000
These have no horns though dumbo
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>>181149497
pretty sure there is a maggi art where they have thighs and tits
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>>181150121
Is there a maggi art where things don't? Even the dude portraits have huge cleavage.
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>>181149697
The game is designed around keyboard control and controllers, that's most of the reason for the whole magic circle mechanic. You couldn't even use mouse initially.
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>>181150089
Pawnds and Pandels drop "small demon horn" items, so it's there under their hair.
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>>181150273
Well okay, and how is the controller support? That might be interesting.
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Post maggi's Rafene illustration, aka the female Hauberk illustration.
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How does the watering of the appraiser quest flower work? Does it reset if it doesn't glow?
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>>181151185
No, it switches between 2modes
waterable and nonwaterable, it does this roughly every 10seconds

When it's waterable consider it getting a +1, and it wlil glow
When it's not, you wasted the water but no negative effect.

Continue this until it's ready. As long as you watered it at least once, you will get a flower
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>>181151185
I have no idea
I teleported to the map when I did that quest
Find a flower
no one was even close, just pick it up
I dont even know how you water shit
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>>181151356
How long does it take?
>>
An hour or so
>>181152515
>>
>get a whisper
>"I didn't buy your recipe 'cos it's from your pathetic ass"
>"But I needed it, so are you going to relist it or what?"
This server.
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>>181151356
>>181152515
Thanks
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>>181152654
Sell it for cheaper on the megaphone and dont sell it to him
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>>181152796
no it sold for full price last night
I just whispered him "fuck off worm" and blocked
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>>181152972
wow you almost sounded cool there but then you added that you blocked him like a bitch
Very disappointed
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>>181153104
oh no a random anons opinion affects me greatly
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>>181153104
>Retard mad he didn't get the recipe and was blocked for being a chimp
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXle2_XELg8
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>>181128138
Number of cards and not star? So what's the point of making it level 10 then?
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>>181153573
>whalewoo with 5k physattack still hits for shit
wew
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>>181153792
Unless they're putting it in as their shoggoth, nothing.
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>>181153573
that damage sucks ass
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where does ledas shield drop? Info about it on the internet is very outdated

>>181154674
He should have gone Chap Inqui ,for S I C K damage
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>>181155274
110 dumb
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>>181155274
>Info about it on the internet is very outdated
Yeah, like Cafrisun, right?

How do you even manage to survive with such a low iq.
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>>181155274
110 dungeon. also the property damage doesnt work.
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>guild leader asks for 200 talt for recipe
what do you think of this?
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>>181150738
The controller support is good for melee classes. It's a bit shit with long ranged classes though because targeting a mob gets all over the place. Try it.
I use DS4 controller.
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>>181155718
Pay up, fukcing leech.
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>>181155635
oh really? Wanted to switch arde with ledas for extra defence
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>>181141994
12 hour is actually short

You see that streamer that does 1-330 in 6 hours?
>>
I've installed the game for the first time, still checking various builds on tosbase.
Is there any class that has good damage and low downtime on the cooldowns? I don't really like having long dead times during combat, if possible.
Thanks in advance!
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>>181155580
>not knowing about a game which is not in your native language = low IQ
>asking for an answer on an imageboard instead of wasting time searching through 10 different google links = low IQ
Grow the fuck up
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>>181155815
Ok, but I won't help with raid. :^)
>>
Does anyone know the guild leader of Bittersweet? Please tell your subordinates to STOP afking in SAALUS!
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>>181149801
And yet we kill literally millions of them for sport ;_;
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>>181155986
>tosbase
people will murder you for this
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>>181155995
It's literally one of the first results.
Just like for Cafrisun where you have the fucking exact spawn location and respawn times on every database site.
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>>181156154
>database last updated before last big patch
kys
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>>181155986
Sword 3 Barb2 doppel 3

Basically the meta.
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>>181156257
???
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>>181155718
Sounds like a steal, or I guess you'd prefer to sell them for 1.5m over market?
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>>181149801
look at those perfect dicksucking lips
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>>181134358
>>181124313
source please m'lady
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>>181156505
200 talt is worth 4 to 6 million right now, minimum
>>
>>181157143
Oh shit, I forgot to put my the rest of my talt up before I logged off earlier.
>>
>>181157143
Depends on server I guess, they go for 9~12k in Klai. But practs are still worth 4 times your number, sounds reasonable if you don't plan to help getting them.
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>>181157141
pelt slut is emurin on twitter
druid is I don't know
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>>181157143
On a dead server like Fedimian, sure.
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>>181157581
Mystical Box isn't Practonium. It's a long 30 day wait for one. Paying 1/4th of an items price for that? Not worth it in my book. I'd rather invest into my attributes.
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Fishing a week on test
>two 315 mats, awake stones and trash

First day on kLive
>Red Maid and Clappea fishing rod, one 315 mat, awake stone

Thanks MrKim
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>>181157723
I love that awake stones are actually acquirable in game.

Also ree attenionwhore, ree.
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>>181157723
>token buff shows duration
Wow that's actually helpful and simple
>>
>>181157656
Yeah, and every guild is trying to level up badly so prices go up. Makes sense. Every talt that falls below 10k is instantly bought.
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>>181158215
Yes, that is nice. Not tradeable but teamstorage

>Alse ree
eksdee

>>181158361
I think that is the "Buff Counter" addon in the jp manager
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>>181157685
If you think 5m now = 20m in a month, sure then. Just don't expect to get stuff for free, someone has to invest in guild levels and someone has to run it daily.
>>
>>181158574
I can make 5m in a day.
I can't make 200 talt in a day though.

Talt = Valuable, and it will only go up in price.
>>
Anyone got a solution for dual clienting? I really want to avoid using a laptop for second connection.
>>
>>181159439
fuck off reddit
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>>181159439
hello im fairX the haxxor join my community of hackers if you payme enough i will give you access to a private area of haxx ;)
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>>181159797
I just want a sage+squire alt, cmon man, I'm not trying to run some necrobots or some shit, my pc couldn't even handle that shit
>>
>>181159797
>>181159810
epic
>>
>>181160057
>squire alt account
Why not on main for easy camp teleport?
>>
>>181160736
I suppose I could, it's not like a slot is very expensive.

I wanted the camp foods.
>>
>>181160813
Camp Teleport is really nice to have.
For new chars to all Dungeons/ClassQuestLocations, wasting like no time on your 8xTome.
or Move around the map fast if you farm mats, or Event stuff.

Just get a few charslots
>>
>>181161016
Alright it's probably worth skipping the headache of a second account so I'll just go for it.
>>
>>181160736
>>181161016

You can just party with your alt. I made my squire on a different account because I wasn't wasting my char slot on a useless squire.
>>
>>181161109
True, but i'm to lazy for that and used my old free TP for many slots anyways.
>>
>let me just put these potions on the market
>dont even want to undercut
>like 8000 potions before mine
>an hour later
>50 sold
>100 sold
>40 sold
>try to click it away
>50 sold
>200 sold
>30 sold
>40 sold
>60 sold
>200 sold
>there's still 10,000 potions to go
This spam isn't worth this.
>>
>a guild got 11x practoniums at once in a guild raid
yeah, can I have my 5m practoniums now? thanks
>>
>>181162682

gonna need 4 practs for acessories anyway
>>
>>181162797
it's 3, you retard
>>
>>181162797
>>181162850
Wrong.
2
>>
>>181162797
>>181162850
>>181163024

This is why I trust this general with literally nothing.
>>
>>181162850
>>181163024

think again
>>
>>181162682
Once every 2 weeks maybe, it's not as common as you think. Getting a guild to that level requires at least 400m too.
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hmmmmmm, Palemoon.... your talt is ready
>>
>>181163092

this is why you use the database

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/649014
>>
HOW MANY ACCESSORIES YOUR CHARACTER USE RETARDS
>>
>>181163326
>>181163092
>>181163098
5 Red Crystals for Neck+2Brac
1 Pract makes 3 Red Crystals
>>
If I use an instance clear in a dungeon with a group of 5,
with the xp and drops set to individual, does that mean I'll be the only person to get the xp and silver?
>>
>>181163671
If you entered manually yes
If you entered through matchmaking then no, because a new party is created and the leader is random and the settings are predetermined and unchangable
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>>181163237
I just put about 250 for 10k each.
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>>181164584
I hope I'll be able to get them before cuckmoon
>>
Tell me what can I do with my shitty dragoon lvl 320
>>
Well, can we all' agree that plate armor is best armor?
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>>181164840
prostitution
>>
>>181164896
It is if you don't need crit rate.
Lack of mdef is easily compensated with accessories and Nuaeles if necessary.
>>
>>181164840

Anything if you b urself
>>
>>181164896
>>181164993

no, armors like cafrisun set is best armor, they add a line of attack
>>
>>181164840
Wait for the R9 reset event.
>>
>>181164896
If you are dps, it is not.
>>
>>181165134
yeah but PD2 or inq?
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>>181164212
>Create 4 alts along your main, or get 4 guildies willing to use dungeon runs for you
>Go in and get the 600% party bonus
>Tell the others to leave/set exp individual
>Get 2 8x tomes worth of bonuses

Is it feasible?
>>
>>181165212
If they leave, you won't get 600% EXP
>>
>>181165208
nigga I'm not that guy, but it's true. If you're an autoattacking class, adding a line of damage is the superior choice
>>
>>181165212
Sure, if you can still multibox, otherwise you'll need 4 more PCs just to do this.
>>
>>181165284
>autoattacking class
kek
>>
>>181165248
this
I already tested it by running far ahead out of exp range of the other people
Once they're not around you dont get the bonus anymore
>>
>>181165248
>>181165614
Then making a party with others and setting exp to individual ?

>>181165404
If it's possible at all, then having willing guildmates would make a way to help newer members level quickly.
>>
>>181165576
ya know there are 2 auto attacking classes in Tos most popular builds right?
>>
>>181165852
But which of them is better?

Priest3ChapInquis or Priest3ChapPD?
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>>181164840
Be a good hybrid support for melee and bossing DPS, you need lot of gear and attributes though
>>181164913
DELETE THIS
>>
>>181165998
Hmm
But why wouldnt I just get Lancer who is the supperior support and dps?
>>
>>181165852
let's assume 3.5k blessing
adding 1 more line of damage is 3.6k
my character's skills hit for 100k
your damage is worthless and you should hang yourself
>>
>>181165967
probably PD for fire-and-forget tick damage.
>>
>>181166096
>hur hur hur muh damage
>>
>>181166089

He didn't ask about Lancer. Either way, Lancers are far more common than Dragoons and Crush+Serpentine can co-exist. My guild has like 7 Lancers but I'm the only Dragoon left.
>>
>>181166096
Cafrisun memes aside, chap auto damage is pretty brutal. It could even become a new meta with enough AoE ratio, matk and attack speed.
>>
>>181166089
Lancer isn't futureproof in PvE.
>>
>>181166332
>80% def reduction is not futureproof
its the perfect bossing support
>>
>>181166405
>>181166332

It's not even worth discussing "futureproof" because they've shown so far they're not willing to do nerfs yet (seeing as how Doppel is still untouched) and when rank 9 comes along we will most likely get rank resets anyways.
>>
>>181166776
I WORK AT IMC
AND WE WILL NOT GET ANY RANK RESETS UNLESS THERE WILL BE A HUGE COMBAT OVERHAUL AGAIN WHICH IS VERY UNLIKELY TO HABEN
RANK RESETS ARE OUT FOR YOU
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
>>
>>181166886
Can you take a picture of kim's sportscar for proof?
>>
>>181167029
He's not in the office right now
>>
>>181167029
here
>>181167428
>>181167428
>>181167428
Yes, Kim is actually black
>>
>>181167505
>Kim's sportscar is a girl
uhmmmmmmm
>>
>>181167576
That is inside the car, silly
>>
>>181165736
This wouldn't be bad, at least in my guild (non-/tosg/ guild) there are quite a few people who have alts that they haven't specced at all since the event that could be used as fodder for this, assuming they're online, and it works.
>>
>>181164839
Hope you do.
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