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FINAL FANTASY XIV STORMBLOOD

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Are you still having fun with SB?
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Why is Refulgent Arrow its own skill instead of it just modifying Straight Shot when you get Straighter Shot.

How does that compute.
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I've already gotten to ilvl 314 without very much grinding at all

It feels way more grindy pushing my machinist up with mostly frontlines
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i want to cum on her face
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As a SAM, when do I use Diversion to not ripoff aggro of the tank?
I used it before doing Midare setsugekka > Meikyo shisui > 3 finisher > Midare setsugekka but I still steal aggro from the tank after a while.
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>still no dog girls
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>>180846424
Tell your tank to get out of DPS stance for a little while at least
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>>180846422
this frontline grinding is pretty stupid but its not like i can go do stormblood fates or something

maybe fates will be useful when they introduce the new relic lines
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>>180846427
>maybe fates will be useful when they introduce the new relic lines
Fat chance, they said that the new relic stuff will be based on the SB diadem.
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To continue my rage from the last thread

Do I just fucking poach members. These faggots have 2 more full FCS on the same damn server thinking this is an empire. I just want a well knit friendly fc who helps and talks to each other. Its not fun when an eligible person gets snatched up in an instant
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>>180846421
Sometimes you need straight shot proc for, I don't know, straight shot?
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>>180846427
I wish they would look at how people get XP and try to fucking do something to adjust how everyone is just farming PoTD/PvP all day everyday.

Why aren't sidequests affected by armory bonus?
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>4 days into Expansion
>2 days into being able to do anything past Raubahn
>ANYONE FOR SHINRYU NM

Not sure if I was mad or disappointed that Shinryu wasn't a surprise 2nd Raid tier in 4.2

The actual fight was cool but I really don't want to see the Minstrel's Ballad version.
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>>180846429
You're either going to have to transfer or start sniping new players if you care that much.
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>>180846429
>eligible person

elaborate on this
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>>180846430
Why would you waste your proc on Straighter shot when you could just do Refulgent -> Straight Shot. I'm just saying they could've just modified Straighter Shot to be Refulgent Arrow and give/refresh Straight Shot and it would've saved the button. It just feels weird.
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>>180846429
The fun fact is those FC's are probably empty and they never delete members.
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>>180846429
>G
Fuck those cunts.
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>>180846432
Thanks for the spoiler, asshole. I accidently saw the name while scrolling down to make a comment about something else.
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>>180846436
They actually work with some sort of pyramidal system
The top raid and do stuff together, if people do well they can join as sub members, you can get in raid by doing stuff like gathering/crafting stuff for them....etc
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>>180846433
No way am I letting these fags win
>>180846434
ANYONE who can receive an FC invite and is looking to join one. They go through the player search list and invite an fcless person. When I first made an alt here about 15 of their officers whispered me asking to join
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Stormblood cutscenes in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mexolv0Z178
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>>180846441
They used that a bit too much. I don't think they needed to have text for it.
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>>180846420
desu, if they release DQX in English, I'd rather be playing that.
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>>180846431
all those sidequests ill never do. there are even a ton in heavensward i skipped and i did like 4 of them in stormblood

i have two 70s now and for the most part all i did was run around auto attacking in frontline and running in circles
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Any AST bros ITT?

When do you use Sleeve Draw? If I use it when I don't have any cards, I end up with Spire in my Spread, and you can't even discard it now.
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>>180846431
PotD was a mistake and no doubt a reason for the server fuck ups
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>week since release
>servers still 90k when doing instanced stuff
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Did they increase the EXP given in PoTD?
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>>180846447
>playing on balmeme
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>>180846448
indirectly with the armory bonus going from 50% to 100%, yes.
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>>180846424
The best way to not rip aggro from the tank as SAM is to get a tank who knows what the PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THEIR JOB IS
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>>180846444
The worst part is there's a shitload of sidequests now so if you do ALL of them its an okay amount of experience but the effort involved makes it seem like a waste unless the storyline for it was actually interesting.

As long as I've played this game I don't understand how they view sidequests, the XP is pitiful and most of them are just basic collect 10 boar hides/talk to this person. There is no reason they can't be affected by armory as a way to help alts level.
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>>180846450
I don't get armory bonus.
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Just beat the story, it was alright. Not really interested in the weekly grind coming up but I will do the new raid tier on Normal and stuff. More interested about DoL and DoH for now.
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>>180846445
I hate healing. I main BLM so the thought of healing was stupid to me. Then I tried AST and found I'm really enjoying it. The difficulty shifted in an unexpected way. Instead of me against the mobs, it becomes me against my party. The difficulty of the content is determined by your group and not the mobs in it. I was pleasantly surprised. And a little dismayed.
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>>180846449
this is on one of the preferred servers. i mean i can log back in just fine but the disconnects are extremely annoying
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>>180846451

Has the game changed so much that DPS can rip off tanks even if they aren't doing full enmity combos every time? I stopped right at the start of HW and even then, I never EVER had to do enmity combos every time (I alternated).
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>That revamped PvP
this is fun as fuck, at least as a DRK
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>>180846457

WAR cant hold aggro for shit anymore.
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God damn I was already happy with the PLD changes at level 60 but holy spirit is some good shit
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>>180846458
Removing PvP from the main game was the best idea.
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>>180846459
They're wearing i270 STR rings.
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>mfw my annoying neighbor left Cerberus for Omega
Finally the retainerbell near my house is great again!
Only five left on my blacklist to fuck off as well.
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>>180846458
PLD and MCH are a lot of fun in PvP as well. Silencing healers with holy spirit or nuking low health players is great, I just wish they'd let us use cover on alliance members instead of only party members
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>>180846453
It's just a bonus granted to any combat-capable class that isn't your highest level class. It's a 100% bonus to everything you do from 1-59, then it drops to 50% from 60-69 as I recall. It's just there to make grinding less painful since grinding is actually all you can do once the MSQ is done.
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>>180846459

Holy shit is that true? They used to be the KINGS of enmity.
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I got to 30 on a preferred world.
Where the hell is that money they promised?
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>>180846440
>offered to raid with a small static that's part of the main guild in my server
>won't join their guild because I like my guild which is full of friends
>whatever they don't care
>we start doing good, when I join we clear content that they were stuck on for a month
>suddenly I have to join or I won't be able to raid with them anymore because their officers say so
>I get kicked because I still refuse to just be one of their numbers to flex the GMs epeen
This happened both in ARR and HW. Now I refuse to interact with anyone in their guild
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>That level 70 WAR quest
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BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
ACROSS THE EMERALD DALEEE
ON MARCH THE IVORY STANDARD
UNITED WE PREVAILLL
FROM DISTANT SHORES OF OTHARD
TO LAKES OF ALDEMARDDD
THE LIGHT OF MIGHTY GARLEMARD
FORE'ER OUR GUIDING STARRR
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>>180846469
>The SB BRD Quests
I felt like nothing I did mattered at all.
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>>180846466
I've never seen them have trouble in Susano or Lakshmi but they're pretty bad in dungeons, at least when they try to go into Deliverance all the time because they're a TOP DOG ALPHA TANK.

Sorta funny watching them try to relive 3.X while they get handily outdamaged by healers and lose control of bosses and trash pulls.
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Only thing Zenos did wrong was not accepting your bromance offer.
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How many PotDs now from 56-60 in Stormblood?
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>>180846468
My friend was led to being kicked out because her own private LS was large and the faggots at G' got angry my friend did more shit with her friends instead of constantly recruiting for them. Then they tried to get her back because they felt bad

If only noobs knew better than to join them
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>late to the ex trials train
>don't even feel like gearing up to do them anymore
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What's the sequence to turn pvp specific skills into mouseover macros? Like hell am I going to heal by manually clicking on a party member then heal them.
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>almost done leveling PLD to 70
>healer is next and only healer I have at 60 is SCH, WHM is at 50 and AST at 40
Should I just level SCH to 70 and hope for a buff or should I go for AST or WHM?
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>>180846469
>level 70 sch quest
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Has there been any word on when Shirogane housing sales will start? Figure I'll need to be there the minute it's up to snag a personal small plot.
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>tfw shinryu
Why did they do this? They know most of the playerbase is retarded
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>>180846478
What buff do you want? 30 dps spells, like most retards wh cry? Well no use to wait for it
As a healers they are decent, for Susan-o ex they are better than whm
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>>180846471
So fitting for BRD?
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Well, blm is beyond great now. So, yes. Fun is happening.
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>>180846481
Easier than knights normal during launch
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>>180846483
Power of Friendship yet again
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>>180846420

>yotsuyu will turn to the good side

REEEEBEEEDEEBEEDEEEE
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>>180846466
Probably because they used their enmity combo as part of their DPS rotation, but now they have to use storm's path to generate more fell cleave points.
People really should just give up and respect the content, this "i270 STR accessory" meme is getting really annoying, like the tank shitters trying to use "MLG PRO AGGRESSIVE TANKING" STR builds before HW's VIT changes and fucking up in baby easy content because they really fucking suck at tanking.
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>>180846478
sch will get small insignificant buffs most likely until ~3.3-4
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Reminder that potd and jump potions are one of the same, both teach you nothing and if you complain about jump potions you should also complain about 1-60 potd players who also, dont know how to play
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>>180846481
Funny how it's implied she is lusting after the warrior of lights dick
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>>180846485
I STILL don't remember Knights normal being as difficult as Shinryu. Granted I am on a Nip data center so maybe that changes things.
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Where do you get the AF3 gear
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>>180846480
"In the future"

Widely expected to be the 4.1 release. You have weeks before housing will open but yeah if you're on even a mid-pop server you'll probably have to alarm clock it to get the plot you want. If you're on a high pop server, good fucking luck.
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>>180846493
Job quest
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>>180846481
Not JP. We randos did it in 3 tries after noticing all the mechanics. No one even complained. After the fight it was all good game and shit,

Meanwhile my friend who plays in the US server had people buttmad about everything.

You burgers are retarded as fuck.
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>>180846494
I'm on a legacy server (Hyperion) so I figure I'll have a few seconds' chance when they go live.
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>>180846457
A tank sitting in tank stance just repeating their aggro combo over and over will never get aggro taken from them in a single target situation barring extraordinary circumstances (dramatic clvl or ilvl differences, dying multiple times in the same encounter) but this is a shitty and unoptimal way to play a tank. Most tanks want to do exactly one enmity combo in tank stance then drop tank stance entirely and never turn it back on (again, barring extraordinary circumstances)

This was easy to do in HW because SE wisely made tank damage scale off of vitality as well as strength, single-handedly solving the problems of raiding tanks wanting to equip slaying accessories to do adequate damage (and thus having shitty health pools), and giving tanks a scaling source of damage proportionally equal to the growth of a DPS's strength throughout the expansion, ensuring great enmity generation and damage dealing potential both in one master stroke. Everyone was happy.

In Stormblood they reverted the change to vitality, making it no longer increase tank damage, probably because of the change to the Death Penalty mechanic, which no longer decreases your vitality when revived, so tanks could theoretically do 100% of their damage even through multiple deaths even though this isn't practical because of tp/mp constraints after one death, let alone multiple.

So the problems both came back at once and nobody is happy. Tanks can equip fending gear and have ridiculously high health pools, but their damage and enmity generation suffer greatly for it since fending accessories grant tanks absolutely nothing for damage or enmity, only survivability. The problem is further compounded by making Stormblood accessories role-locked, meaning tanks cannot equip current-tier slaying accessories, so they've resorted to wearing HW slaying ones to keep enmity and try to deal as much damage as possible. SE really took a couple giant leaps backwards with the tank archetype in SB.
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>>180846492
No but bridge Nidhogg was similarly hard for the majority. It's the same kind of artificial bottleneck that Yoshida added so that people don't complete the game "too" fast and realize that there's no content at all. It'll get nerfed a minimum 3 times before long and the whole fight will be a miserable joke.
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I'm planning on moving to a tank soon, going from DRG, what would be a good tank job to work towards for someone who has never tanked
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Where to buy mount speed boost in zones?
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>MCH still top parse in Extremes and likely savage
>Xaela get their own massive zone, unique dialog, and tons of lore
>free transfers off of Buttminge to avoid the retarded 4 hour queues and ERP spam
Such a great expansion.
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Did this expansion make combat less boring?
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>>180846420
I HAVE A TEMPORARY FIX FOR THEIR INVENTORY ISSUES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO GLAMOUR LOGS FOR SOME REASON.

THEY CAN HAVE AN NPC WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL SET, OR LEAST LEFT SIDE VISUAL PIECES YOU CAN TURN IT INTO A SINGLE ITEM, SIMILAR TO THE JOB QUESTS FOR LEVEL 70 FOR THEIR AF3 AND WEAPON
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>>180846488
I'm so glad I never fell for that 'MLG PRO AGGRESSIVE TANKING' str meme, and instead focused on being a good tank.
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>>180846491
Where is implied that? She has mistbeard
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>>180846476
Can't you just PVP for tomes?
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>>180846499
Hahaha yeah I remember launch day Nidhogg, Good times. And oh boy did I love Wiping City of Salty Tears day 1.
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>>180846500
Paladin
>>180846500
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>>180846496
>le japs are good at gaming maymay
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don't want to start ffxiv general style shitposting, but some guy I've been adventuring with for awhile now just proposed to me, don't really know how to feel about it because he seems to be taking it super seriously and I'm really only in it for the white chocobo, our fucking fc went bonkers over this news though, suddenly everyone was acting like a giddy high school girls, I'm a male roe and he's a cat boy, what tier of marriage do we have to buy to get the chocobo? am I gonna have to drop 20 bucks on this?
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>>180846499
Shinryu isn't even Bridge tier hard. It was fair as fuck.
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>>180846501
anyone?
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>>180846476
the extreme trials a shit show atm, they're both easy as fuck but there's a huge amount of people that can even move over a line when they get marked, it's actually ridiculous how bad this is, now i know why people couldn't even do soar because they refuse to even move to do anything
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>>180846500
paladin is piss easy and very strong at the moment. the only issue is the class is absolutely awful to play until you get shield oath and doesn't actually start to become fun until you get total eclipse
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>>180846467
New world, PReferred is just free 15 days.

New worlds are only Omega and Louisoix
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>>180846505
If Yoshi didn't fuck with tank scaling people wouldn't have to do it

But luck to some people in omega savage if they don't change it back because people will be hitting those enrages
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>>180846511
sounds cute
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>>180846474
Someone answer.
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>>180846514
that can't even move*
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>>180846519
around 5 per level
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>>180846500
Lots of memers saying PLD is going to be the best in SB, but having leveled PLD and WAR to 70, and played both of them in similar level of gear at 70, I couldn't tell you which is better. Mechanically all 3 Tanks play the same and you're basically just picking the flavor that you like.
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>>180846499
no one had issues with final steps idiot it was steps of faith they nerfed which wasnt nidhogg
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>>180846513
Hunt vendors afaik
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>>180846521
I can barely stand a single run of PotD. Its just so fucking boring.
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>>180846521
Even with the new armory bonus?
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>>180846511
http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/eternalbond/na/detail/special_item_4.html?lng=en&rgn=na
All you need to know about your gay adventures.
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>>180846517
Yeah, this post >>180846498 Nailed it pretty good
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>>180846526
yes
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How meny exp is it for 1 Shatter PVP run from 60+?
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>>180846523
Yeah, that one. It's been over a year since I did HW content so I forget who it was, but all the dragons are one and the same to me, so I just called it Nidhogg and prayed that I was correct.
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Just solo healed Lakshimi EX and even had time to do dps, is it just so easy or am I a good healer?
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>>180846530
585000+
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>>180846504
I think the reason why they say they can't implement it is because they think people want a literal glamour log akin to the hunting log as opposed to a place where glamour could be inventoried. The excuse of "the server would have trouble moving the log data from zone to zone" only makes sense in this scenario since retainers and the market board don't suffer from this problem.
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>>180846530
Around 10% of a level per run maybe a bit more, fastest way to level solo if your not tank/healer
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>>180846522
Then you're playing wrong.
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>>180846458
>DRK
DRK's unmend in pvp give me PTSD of the templar of Aion who had also a lasso that could grapple people and make them come over to them.
Had abunch of DRK pulling me witting my group when I was in battle fever without being able to flee at all, it's fucking annoying and only on a 10sec CD.

Speaking of which, WAR also got shafted hard in pvp.
>No more Berserk
>No more Pushback to stack with Vengeance, Berserk and Bloodbath
>No more Mythril Tempest
>Not even able to stun like PLD and DRK for some goddamn reason
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>>180846532
It's easy as fuk, but that doesn't mean that you couldn't also be good.
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>>180846532
Lakshmi EX is pretty easy, but that's still pretty good performance regardless.
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>>180846482
>>180846489
Whatever. I'll get WHM to 70 just to out DPS shitters.
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>>180846536
Nah, I'm good.
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>Haven't played an MMO since I was 14 when my whole guild migrated when I was in hospital.
>Online friend told me to get Stormblood since he's recruited a bunch of friends and there'll be super fun happy times.
>Buy it and make my character.
>He doesn't like the race I picked so he blocked me.
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>>180846534
Then just make a glamour npc like the aesthetician's sibling who you now can choose all gear you've ever owned before in this boutique area to try it all on.
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>>180846512
>get instantly killed 10 seconds into the fight unless you can predict the future
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>>180846479
I dunno, it felt weird to see someone lusting so much on a Tomberry.
She was cute at the end tho
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>>180846540
whm is an allright pick ast is better though since se will just buff them even more
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>>180846438
If that name means anything to you you're fucking retarded for not expecting him to show up as a boss fight
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>>180846542
Your friend must be a roe or lalafell.
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THICC

MAJESTIC

BUTTS
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>>180846541
No im saying if you think WAR is 'fine' and even in the same area code of PLD in terms of how good they are you need to reevaluate.
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>>180846544
It was all mechanics from previous primal fights
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>instance servers breaking again
full party of tank, heal and 2 dps in queue, but nothing popping at 26 minutes and counting
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>>180846542
>being friends with autists

Fantasia will fix it.
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TELL ME HOW CUTE I AM

also, how long does the XP bonus on new servers last?
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>>180846548
He's a cat girl, I picked Roe because I like tall characters that aren't elves.
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>>180846549
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>>180846512
>Nidhogg
>unfair
What? Literally the only problem with Nidhogg was people miserably failing the DPS check. Compared with the utter mess of Shinryu, Final Steps might as well be Final Destination.
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>Tank for us anon!
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>>180846550
what can a paladin currently accomplish in this game that a warrior can't besides be fun to play
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What's the point of a large FC? It seems like a set group if 12-14 regular players would be the optimal number. Why do people go for FCs that have half the server?
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>>180846545
alka zolka is a degenrate
like most of the playerbase
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>>180846496
>You burgers are retarded as fuck.
Stuck on EU.

People are just as fucking retarded here. If not more so.
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>>180846558
>cats

No.
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>>180846498
It also has the knock-on effect of making WAR drop to being absolutely the worst tank, since we don't do anywhere near as much damage as we used to, have almost no raid utility, and to top it off, switching stances halves our stacks, meaning that stance dancing is pretty much dead.

Sure, we can do 6 fell cleaves in a single berserk, but to pull that off, we have to drop half our stacks, do 3 full rotations to build up deliverance to max again, with a storm's eye combo, then pop inner release, berserk and have time to pull off all 6 combos.

It's a fuckton of setup, and unless all the fell cleaves crit, we do slightly more dps than a DRK just following their normal damage combo, so the only time to use it is if you know you have a solid 15 seconds where the boss won't be doing any mechanics, or if you need to help with a DPS check.
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>>180846543
I agree that is what should be done, what I'm saying however is that everytime someone has asked the dev team they've specifically said glamour log so it could just be a lost in translation thing.
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>>180846550
Believing everything what the internet tells you without any first hand experience is a sickness my easily misled friend. I've been maining PLD and WAR since ARR and I can tell you that this game is so piss easy that whatever small variance doesn't really matter. What matters is the mechanics, and mechanically speaking, they all play the same. I have no firsthand experience with DRK but a guildie told me that it's the same shit as PLD and WAR.
FOTM rollers have never been any more pathetic than they have in this game because of how little any class variance actually matters in this awful game.
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>>180846547
I expected it, but not in this patch already.
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>>180846557
Goddamn you fucks thought Shinryu was actually hard?
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>>180846429
God they are the worst FC on Leviathan
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Just give warrior back the path debuff and remove the stance cost and tanks are balanced
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>>180846551
They're easily figured out and repeated mechanics in general, but not specific ones from primals. They literally only have the same names.
Hellfire doesn't require you to stand in a water puddle to take less damage, and Diamond Dust isn't the move that makes you slide around.
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>>180846496
Literally did it first try second/third day of release when all the casualfags and shitters were behind.
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>playing through MSQ
>Yugiri decides to rush off and try to assasinate spinnyswordman on her own
>my character actually agrees to this retarded shir

STOP MAKING ME DO STUPID SHIT LIKE THIS YOSHI REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180846493
70 Job Quest
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>>180846570
They still need to revert the VIT changes and make Tenacity not shit.
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>>180846568
i dont but i went in a df group and they wiped for 30m no one would move out of aoes they would place the breats to cover the whole arena they just cant do simple shit
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>>180846560
Because for some reason people see large groups and think they will benefit from being in them.
Small FC is the way to go though. Mine has like 10-20 active players usually which makes it really relaxing. With the expansion and older members returning it's becoming chaotic in the chat with 40-50 people who most of which were friends at one point or another.
I don't know how FC with 200+ people manage
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>>180846568
Now tell me anon, where in my post did I say Shinryu was hard? I'm saying it was a very badly designed fight, friend.
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>>180846420
i'm still leveling my classes to 35 while im in the free trial, so no
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>>180846566
PLD is parsing higher. I have tested it. Does WAR have raidwide mitigation? Does WAR have a cooldown to use on the MT?
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>>180846420
No, I completely regret it.
All the server issues aside, tanks are cucked, healers are cucked, dps have 3 hour queues. Ex primals are boring, dungeons are super boring and basically everything about this expansion is terrible.
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>First day of PF on EU servers
I miss American servers already.
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Post huds.
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>trick attack is on a 60s cd
>tenchijin is on a 100s cd
What were they thinking? I can't even use them together
Should I wait until they magically refresh at the same time or waste tenchijin on a damp squib suiton.
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>>180846578
It wasn't? It was good.
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What makes her so best?
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>sch isn't fun anymore
>don't like ast or whm
>regular group has tank already
>don't want to dps because of queues when I'm solo
Guess I'm out for SB, thanks yoshi
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>>180846581

I went in with no expectations and it was alright. Dont know what fucking miracle game you want. I'll give you the dungeons and nothing will top Ravana. Overall, good for just the story with some hicups
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>>180846429
I used to be in G. Yeah they pretty much mass invite and usually get the worst possible people because of it. I was in the main FC for a while and it was just a ciche of regulars and new assholes of the week trying to hit on one of the girls that kept going on and on about how big their tits were.
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>>180846587
What exactly was fun about SCH before?
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>>180846585
It was, though.
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>>180846558
>that hair
You don't need to tell us she's a whore. The hair alone screams it
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What a sweet revenge from those A1S farm parties.
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>>180846558
>cow tits
no
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>>180846502
Fuck off lizard slut.
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>>180846593
>tank still pissy about the one time ever his job wasn't in demand for something
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>>180846588
Yeah but if its the story youre interested in, you might aswell just sub for a month and then drop the game.
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>main SAM
>thought it was going to be "LOL SAM" and being made fun of
>literally everyone tries to buff me with their abilities to do more big dick damage, all DRG share the eye, all AST give me blowjobs and cards
>commendations everywhere
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>>180846451
Wrong, you're more likely to lose aggro to a content-respecting tank than a DPS tank now because of the STR change. Paper tanks can hold aggro while lifelong PLD mains who never leave shield oath can't.
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>>180846542
Your friends are shit and you are shit at picking friends
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I think tanks and heakers just have to deal or quit. This is clearly the way SE wants it, making you focus more on your role than DPS.
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>>180846485
The fuck are you talking about? Thordan was an absolute cake walk even when people were fighting him in full levelling gear
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>>180846597

Nice get.
You are totally right. Im probably gonna unsub after I get done with all the uncapped content. Im not going to do the weekly shit ever again.
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Is alexander dead and gone? I've been trying to queue for it to complete alex 8 so that I can finally do 9-12 since I've just resubbed not too long ago but I've been fucking stuck in queues for over 2 hours everyday without a single person showing up in duty finder. Shit sucks man.
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>>180846604
It's the bloody launch window of a new expansion what did you expect.
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>>180846575
how do you reconcile reverting the vit changes while still keeping tanks scared of dying without shitcanning encounter design
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>>180846597
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>>180846604
>new xpack
>is last xpacs raid dead?
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>>180846604
Yes pretty much. Make a PF, ask FC and friends, shout.
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>>180846567
>I came to a message board for a game that I haven't completed yet and still care about spoilers.
/v/ threads are full of spoilers for everything your own fucking fault for coming in here.
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>>180846601
The problem is that tanking or healing is absurdly easy. If I make it my goal to just tank or just heal, this game suddenly becomes about as challenging as gone home.
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>>180846558
>western """"""""""""""art""""""""""
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Zenos would have been the perfect villain if he didn't kill random soldiers to show "lol how villanous I am"
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>roll 98 on doggo mount
>think i have it in the bag
>the shitty BRD that almost got the party killed twice and died multiple times rolls a 99
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>>180846604
In the same position here bro, been trying to queue into coil but duty finder is a bitch.
Dead content as well, dont know why
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>>180846584
Hold tenchijin for 20s?
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>>180846613

But he killed for the fact of failure or them not being in the field directly. He wasnt a bad as villain except for being kinda generic and really psychotic.
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>>180846593
Are even making those PF even worth it instead of just queueing manually?
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>>180846611
All of these issues can be fixee if they simply tune up the danage enemies do.
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>>180846615
>trying to queue into coil
For what fucking purpose
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>Susano EX has to be the easiest primal to date
>Still can't get a fucking clear for the life of me because people leave after a single wipe
It's Zurvan EX all over again. Just drown yourselves in bleach you fucking faggots.
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>>180846613
He still would have been shit, his only trait was being evil because he was evil, random psychotic villains are never good
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>>180846558
>>180846612
why does this game have so little Japanese fanart despite the majority of players being Japanese?
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>>180846420
I never had fun in SB to begin with
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>>180846616
You mean hold trick for 40s?
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>>180846618
Of course not.
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>>180846617
Killing people for fucking up is still insane. Hello?
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>>180846623
you arent looking in the right places
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>>180846610
Yes, because believe it or not, some care about using the spoiler tags! Shocking, I know!
So far I've been able to avoid any spoiler while posting about other XIV related things until that one comment.
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>>180846623
It just happens sometimes, popular games/shows don't catch on with the art community
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>>180846627

Yeah, but it served as an examole for his underlings. There's nothing wrong with it in that context. What would he do then? Doing fuckall would be even worse.
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>>180846498
>Most tanks want to do exactly one enmity combo in tank stance then drop tank stance entirely and never turn it back on (again, barring extraordinary circumstances)
One of the reasons this change went through is precisely because tanks had such an easy time maintaining aggro during Heavensward. Yoshi wants tanks to remain in tank stance for the majority of the encounter and actually have to use their enmity combo every once in a while instead of pretending it doesn't exist, and to only use dps stance while off-tanking or outside of dungeons. That doesn't mean that the change isn't fucking retarded, but it's very unlikely they'll go back on it, and since people are still doing it you can bet your ass we'll be seeing even further nerfs to tanking in dps stance in the future.
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>>180846621
I don't know what's worse, fuckers having the thundercloud overlap everyone and the boss, or just idiots who can't move to the other side of the arena to place their purple icon.

Is it really that hard?
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>>180846627
It's been done in our own history a hell of a lot of times. Do you expect a fantasy world to have our values?
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Anyone know a vid where it shows all the SAM skills in action?
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>>180846601
then they shot themselves in the foot

vit-only accessories don't help you generate enmity. tanks have virtually no damage growth while dps classes grow proportionally in power with their ilvl, which means it's only going to get harder from here to hold enmity. all that hp and nothing to show for it.
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>>180846623
>despite the majority of players being Japanese?
Might wanna recheck your sources, anon
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>>180846621

>doing susan EX
>everything is actually going smoothly for 80% of the fight no wipes and everyone is doing mechanics
>near the end a DPS fucks up the cloud positioning and gets everyone blasted which leads to a wipe
>it was clearly just a mistake and no one flipped out
>instead of staying to try again the DPS just types "idiots" and leaves even though it was literally only their fault

What is so fucking hard about manning up and saying "oops I made a mistake, I'll pay more attention next time"? Everyone clearly knew the mechanics and we probably would have cleared on the second try. Why are people so adverse to taking responsibility?
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>Chaos queue server is dead again
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>>180846622
Go fuck yourself. Zenos was entertaining as fuck and had a consistent internally logical mindset. I bet you're one of them famous that think villains are only good if they're practically heroes.
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>>180846628
pixiv sucks these days, they let westerns use it and now they've ruined it with their hentaifoundry garbage
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>>180846632
No we won't, since if they do nerf it further people will play tanks even less and nuke the queues even more.
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YANXIA
RICE
FARMERS
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>>180846580
The better question is does the WAR even need it? Will there be situations where such skills is actually mandatory?
The answer is no. Not a single encounter has ever been designed with a specific class setup in mind, because the game is made as sterile as possible.
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>>180846636
this is the biggest issue for sure.

Right now, it's not too hard to hold threat. Maybe throwing some more enmity combos than before.

But in 50 or 60 ilvls, dps are gonna be doing a shitload more damage, and tanks are gonna be doing moderately more damage. So tanks are gonna have to start spamming their enmity combo just to keep up.

Just give us the VIT scaling back Yoshi. I don't give a shit if the rez penalty doesn't apply to tanks, they're not gonna give too much of a shit.
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>>180846640
Being consistent means nothing if what you're doing makes no sense and is silly rationale for your actions. He was literally insane and just lived to kill for the sake of feeling alive. Thats bottom of the barrel villain archetype.
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>>180846635
Try searching on YouTube for "ffxiv Sam opener" or "ffxiv Sam sss parse," that should show everything in action. If you want a specific demonstration of each skill try looking for that in the same place
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>>180846640
>all you need to be a good villain is edge
No
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>>180846632
If Yoshi wants to make the challenge of Tanks actually tanking, then maybe give us more than the same cookie cutter aggro combo? I literally just press 1, 2, 4... 1, 2, 4.... 1, 2, 4.... occasionally ctrl + 2, and very very very occasionally, 7 and/or 8. If I didn't switch into my DPS stance everyo nce in a while i'd fucking fall asleep.
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>>180846645
Does that make it okay that one is objectively better? You guys pulled this same shit with PLD in 3.0. A job merely being able to complete content doesn't make it okay that others are better in every way. There may not be a need for PLD's mitigation, but you'd be foolish to assume people won't take it because in the real world mistakes happen and having that extra margin of safety is important.
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>>180846646
Not to mention that the damage penalty on tanks doesn't really matter much anyway because if the main tank dies you usually have far bigger problems to worry about.
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>>180846632
>People find ways to make tanking fun
>Nope, sorry. You have to do even shittier damage than before and sit there letting monsters beat on you while the DPS have all the fun. But hey, look how much HP you have now!

People wonder why DPS have hour long queues
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>>180846639
>loser script kiddies DDoS chaos matchmaking server
>squenix blocked them
>they try Aether instead
>squenix blocked them even faster
>they change protocol and go back to chaos
Enjoying the shed, eh EUbros?
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>>180846597
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>>180846632
> DPS need to have really complex rotations and interesting mechanics
> What do we do with the tanks? Should we add a third stance, or incentivse the risk/reward of holding aggro?
> Nah, just make their dps stance pointless so they have nothing to do but a 3 button rotation for the entire fight lol
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>>180846647
Consistency is indicative of strong writing and his rationale works in context of his character, which is all that matters in analysis, he's neither too predictable nor reliant on asspulls.

Talking about archetypes instead of writing reveals you as a fucking baby who thinks MGS is good though.
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>>180846420
Nope i quit that shit as soon as i saw the 4.0 class changes went back to gw2 never returning.
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>>180846452
>>180846452
Theyre like the only non instanced permanently available xp resource, and leves which are the same thing.

Basically i see sidequests as existing for something to do while you queue for dungeons, or when you dont have an armoury bonus

>4 captchas to post
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So I've given up on my level 53 DRK (160 hours playtime or so) on Balmung and I've started a new character with 100% exp bonus on Coeurl.

Good or terrible idea?
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>>180846654
>Thinking the DDoS is real
Fucking lmao. SE are just incompetent.
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>>180846459
Those are bad WAR, I don't have problems in dungeons unless everyone is attacking different enemies exclusively, in that case I can hold it but I run out of TP, and in single encounters I never lose aggro, hell I can even go in Deliverance and stay in that for the entire fight unless something big happens, in which case I just switch stance again, couple of Butcher's Block and Upheaval and I'm good to go again.

The only time when I absolutely can't get out of Defiance, is when tank-swapping and the other tank doesn't Shirk me
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>>180846654
Is it known who those fuckfaces are?
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>>180846663
Angry WoW fanbois.
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>>180846645
I'm a WAR main, have been since the start of 2.0, and right now we have fuck-all. Our DPS is absolute trash, we have no raid utility at all, and our survivability is pretty mediocre. I'm probably going to just switch to SAM for the rest of the expac, because at least that job feels like it actually does something.
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>>180846653
>people don't want to play tanks to be brick shithouses with huge mitigation tools, they're rather have tools to shit out middling damage instead

I don't understand, the whole fun of tanking is absorbing and reducing danage that would be lethal to the other prissy robe wearing caster faggots in the party.
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>>180846658
I loved guild wars 1 and i just dont understand guild wars 2, it felt aimless. But i o ly played it for like 3 weeks or so, and it was like a while after launch but before the xpac so early zones had few players
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>WoL
>slayed 10+ primals
>defeated Bahamut
>Defeated Ultima Weapon and destroyed Castrum Meridianum
>ended the dragonsong war
>solved the mystery and problems in dozens of dungeons
>defeated Thordan and ended a theocracy of 1000 years
>defeated the Warriors of Darkness
>saves Minfilia a thousand times
>ends (somewhat) the coup'etat
>is a mastercrafter
>has millions of gils everywhere
>dominates every combat and magic discipline there is
>faces himself and his darkness and still prevails
>defeated three high powered Ascians
>liberates Doma
>enrolls the full might of the Xaela army
>Liberates ALA MHIGOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>defeat Shinryu and Zenos

and still a virgin

will the WoL ever know true love? Haurchefaunt doesn't count, he died too soon
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>>180846660
Just move your character (FOR FREE) to another server you idiot
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>>180846664
this shit is traced as fuck, really grinds my gears when plebs pay for art like this
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>>180846668
Up to you whether or not the WoL is a virgin, retard, that's not up to the MSQs to decide.
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>>180846625
No, he's saying delay Tenchijin for every other trick attack. I don't play Ninja, but assuming you use Tenchijin and TA in your opener at the same time, your timings should look like this:

TA: 0, 60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 360 etc
TCJ: 0 100 200 300 etc

Where as if you hold TCJ for 20 seconds every time it comes off cooldown, your timings would be 0, 120, 240, 360, etc, allowing it to be used in conjunction with every other TA. Whether this a good idea or not I have no clue, since it sounds like a DPS loss to me.
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>>180846666
I honestly blame Warriors, I'll never forget the WAR in my A12S progression group

>You know you could survive that tankbuster if you were in Defiance right?
>"Why would I do that?"
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>>180846666
Because when you have enough mitigation to survive a fight just fine, more doesn't help. It's like healing.

Oh you can pull big dick heals? Well you only need medium dick heals. More heals that are better spent on DPS is a waste
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>>180846629
stop whining for the sake of whining, there's a ton of people here that don't use spoiler tags, this isn't anything remotely new.
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>>180846668
It was pretty laughable when Zenos came in and whooped our asses. He can't possibly compare to like half the things we've killed in the past.

When the fuck are we getting a delevel?
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>>180846666
If tanking was more involved, I wouldn't mind, but fuck me the only time it's even slightly interesting is when there are tank swaps and tankbusters, which is like 1% of the content.
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>>180846599
complete horseshit
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>>180846669
whoa I never thought of that m8

nah I'm pretty much convinced the bonus is better
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When the fuck does Paladin get fun? The ARR leveling dungeons feel dull and PotD doesn't teach shit.
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>>180846667
I get you, its because there so much to do and its horizontal progression so that ilvl carrot stick in FF14 isnt there you just gotta make your own goals.

I can say i just leveled my sorc to 80 i already had an 80mesmer and i have yet to find empty zones sometimes the huge meta events can't be done till u get 100+ ppl in zone but thats about it.
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>>180846664
Is that some Soranamae?
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>>180846676
>>180846668
> Yfw based on power levels alone, Zenos could have slain Nidhogg, beaten Bahamut, destroyed Ultima, killed Alexander, and every single primal
> He didn't feel like doing it though.
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>>180846680
right after you buy a leveling boost :^)
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>>180846668
>defeated three high powered Ascians
In fairness they basically defeated themselves because they're retarded.
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>>180846658
I might actually go back to GW2 as well.
What are the current limitations for people who bought it while it was still B2P?
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>>180846681
I want to like GW2 but getting Ascended gear outside of like rings, trinkets and accessories is a pain in the ass and I don't think you could do raids with full ascended accessories but orange weapons and armor so your best bet is to just craft them.
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>>180846676
>>180846683

It's possible his magitek infusion was somewhat recent.
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Why are bards the biggest mongs in DF?
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>>180846683
But how the fuck did Zenos even get that powerful? Aren't Garleans just kinda shitty Eorzeans? I doubt that even with constant training and other biological modifications he could compare to all we've been through + our Echo, at least before he became a Resonant.
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>>180846629
People have been posting spoilers since day1. I got spoiled about Gosetsu not actually dying and I was ahead of the curve by a large margin.
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>>180846674
Which means that the problem lies in the fact that the added mitigation from tank stance is not actually required to survive an encounter. Which ultimately means the buck stops once again at raid design.

Ultimately, over half of this game's flaws can be attributed to raid design which, while flashy, thematic and really cool, is actually godawful once you look past that.
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>>180846690
They're magicless shitty Eorzeans who get their power through technology.
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>>180846651
>Does that make it okay that one is objectively better?
No, I wish all the Tanks had their own niche with mechanics that play into those niches. But in FF14 your only choice is between a sub optimal one and a better one. This isn't like other MMOs where there are some classes that are just so shit that you literally shouldn't, or even in worse cases, can't play as. Point is that people are taking these tier lists too seriously in this game and then you have people asking what they should play as if some choice is impossibly bad. It isn't.

>but you'd be foolish to assume people won't take it because in the real world mistakes happen and having that extra margin of safety is important.

Oh for sure, and the extra mitigation might make a different in many fights, but for the most part, when people fuck up in FF14, you're going to wipe regardless.

>>180846665
I wouldn't say we have fuck all. Playing a WAR is now a lot more fun than it has been before, but I feel the sting of loss in our survi as well. I miss Bloodbath so much. But on the other hand, WAR was always supposed to be the less tanky option who dealt more damage.

ultimately, I'd say all the Tanks are in a flux right now. PLD might be clearly the most optimal choice, but looking at the whole tank role itself, they all seem to lack any identity that goes beyond visual flavor. So in a way I'd say that the PLD is kinda lame as well.
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>>180846658
I refuse to play GW2 until they accept that the trinity is mandatory for a good modern theme park.
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>>180846674
>>180846677
But being able to make that FUCKHUGEDOOMDEMONFIST tink off your armor is fun into and of itself. At least it should be but for some reason people NEED their DPS validation. Now I'm not saying that tanks need to be doing absolute shit damage either, but hell I see tanks getting more excited about their damage output than DPS players half the time.
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>>180846689
>Always jumping around for no reason

I don't even know
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>>180846471

made Vorsaile seems like a bro, but thats about it.

I still think the Bard 30-50 is best
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>>180846458
DRK is objectively the most fun PVP job to play especially if you have a pocket heal slut.
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>>180846687
You can do raids with orange gear just fine ascended gear is better only time you need the ascended gear is for higher levels of Fractals of the Mist for that agony resist.
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>>180846676
>>180846683
Isn't there a thing about the WoL literally becoming stronger against primals?
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>>180846690
How the fuck did WE get that powerful. I used to think it was Hydaelyn fuckery, but we got even stronger when we had our connection to her cut off, and now that she's basically fucked off to another world / is mostly dead, we're still consistently able to job pretty much anything.

Could Zenos have been Zodiark's champion?
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>>180846690
He was trained since a child every day by professional warriors
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>tfw no tank or healer friend on aether to do roulettes with
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>>180846420
>Are you still having fun with SB?
They butchered my job and I can barely log in and do stuff so no. I cancelled my sub but SE will get away with it again because nobody else will do the same.
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>>180846680

PLD is suffering until level 54 and even then it only gets marginally more interesting. 60+ is pretty good though.

I have no idea how people actually played PLD prior to SB without falling asleep.
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>>180846702
Echo is hella thing mate. We're essentially Goku.
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>>180846695
The trinity is there, there just no cookie cutting in the game, if you goto raids of higher level fractals team get regimented but its a love it or hate it thing.

I personally love the fact you see different specs all the time everywhere.
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>>180846696
>Through Creator our WAR OT is begging for solo balances every single fight
>Always talks about WAR is the best class
>SB comes out
>He instantly switches to PLD to second he hears they have higher DPS
Ban all classhoppers
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>>180846706
>I have no idea how people actually played PLD prior to SB without falling asleep.
Because it was the only option until they fixed WAR in 2.1 or something.
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>>180846702
The Ascians are Zodiark's champions.
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>>180846702
>spoiler
>he fell for the Hydaelyn lies

he's not neccesarily a good guy, an Hydaelyn is a not the good guy either
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>>180846686
You just dont get to do the older living world stuff i believe and yeah you still gotta buy Heart of the Thorns.
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>>180846708
>>180846700
>>180846681
>>180846658
>>180846713

Are you playing GW2 on a toaster? What's with the low resolution?
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>>180846666
I can't speak for others, but for me it's just like a step up in difficulty from the boring DPS jobs. I feel good when I can position a boss effectively, budget cooldowns to stay alive, juggle tank swaps, and still do 60-80% of another player's damage.
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>>180846708
I've been thinking of buying the expansion. But I haven't played in a long time, I only played a couple months at release and some small bursts here and there after that.
Only class I maxed was Warrior.
Is the expac still expensive? Should I download the game and reroll something else while I wait for a price drop or should I just buy it and stay as a Warrior?
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>>180846714
That was a 100+ man meta event my laptop couldn't handle all of the pixels D:
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>>180846696
> I see tanks getting more excited about their damage output than DPS players half the time.

DPS are expected to do DPS, tanks aren't expected to pull sick DPS numbers.

Imagine if you saw both tanks die, then the dragoon somehow grabs aggro and takes a tankbuster to the face and survives, staying alive just long enough to let a tank rez.

That's what it used to feel like when a WAR managed to crit a fell cleave for insane damage, or make up for 2 dead DPS and somehow pass the DPS check by pulling off a flawlessly efficient triple fell cleave combo.
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>>180846713
Cool, I might get it eventually when I finally manage to finish the original stuff.
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>>180846717

Was the laptop bought in 2010? I say that because I have one that old and its the same resolution

Its time to upgrade my man. No one should be playing that low resolution for a game with that busy of a UI
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>Crit Bloodspiller for 9k
>Feel pretty good
>See PLDs dishing out like 6 Holy Spirits with 6k damage each without even critting
I think I leveled the wrong class. At least Blackest Night is pretty cool.
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If I were to get a pocket healer and tank, would lvling in dungeons with all 3 exp buffs be faster than potd?
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>>180846707
Plenty of people around us have echo and don't see the insane power creep we do.
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Everyday, UCT+1, 6pm the instance servers break

like clockwork
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>>180846424
dunno, as a tank I can always use Rage of Halone, Provoke or Flash.
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>>180846723
Yes but these people aren't killing Primals and other absurdly powerful entities left and right like we are.
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Just made an RDM, at the end of the melee combo (before displacement) non-enchanted redoublement has the "please press me to finish combo" border, should I use it again or just displacement
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>>180846724
On which server?
Leviathan/Primal is fine.
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>>180846718
if it's a DPS/Tank hybrid then why not? You're taking the holy trinity too literally while failing to understand that there has always been variation within each role until FF14 came with its sterile classes.
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>Level 70 quest chain starting in Rhalgr's Reach.
>Multiple quests each giving 1500 gold.
>Maybe the last quests has something interesting.
>Nope

What was the point in all that?
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>>180846716
>>180846716
Warrior more then fine atm, everything is great atm i think engineers are on the weak side and you can pick up HoT for 20$ now.
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>>180846712
I didn't fall for shit, all that foreshadowing with the WoDs talking about how their world was overtaken by light, and then Hydelyn's like

> "I-i'm just gonna go to the world of pure light and, y'know, """"fix"""" it by absorbing all the light and becoming insanely powerful. I totally wouldn't do that to your world though, WoL, don't worry we're tight. Too bad about Minfillia though, she's mine now lol."

I mean at least worlds overtaken by Darkness (The Void) still have some form of life. Sounds like worlds destroyed by Light are completely barren. The absolute endgame of FFXIV will probably be killing Hydelyn or Zodiark/Hydelyn after they merge into one being again.
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>>180846730
A shitty "rememberance" questline to make you remember all those wonderful times of wandering the shitty Ala Mhigo areas doing boring chores without being able to fly or go fast.
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thank god im out of that boring black lizard zone
doma castle better be a good reward for sitting through that shit
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>>180846586
Probably the part where she was constantly raped by her adopted family before working in a brothel.
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>>180846734
probably the best SB story dungeon, so yeah
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What the fuck is it with the GW2 posting? Fuck off, I'd rather play BDO.
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>>180846734
>Dissing the best part of the game
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afk smoke break
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>>180846738

Excuse me?
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>>180846721
DPS main here

I thought wars got shitted on for being fell cleave memers but now it's ok?
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>>180846683
Zenos doesnt habe the echo, he couldnt get close to any of those primals, and he didnt have a dragon eye to help him slay nidhogg. Hes physically stronger but not blessed with plot armor
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>>180846429
we also do mass invites and due to this we have a good core member group. of course the offline folks will be deleted, but it takes time.
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>>180846737
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>>180846737
desperate shills trying to stir some interest in their dead game
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>>180846738
> xaela edit when.jpg
I got you senpai, gimmie 15 minutes.
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>>180846740
You're excused for your terrible taste, but just this once.
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>>180846741
DRK main here, you're right, it's not really okay.
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>>180846580

Not him but it doesn't really matter now in regards to tank cds now that DPS can essentially handle most busters if they so choose. Assuming a standard dps comp of 2 melee/ranged/caster, you have apock, palisade, two phys viruses, 1 magic viruses. This doesn't even count the spread of shared tank role cds given to each tank. If this tier is going to be barely harder than Creator, then PLDs cds will be overly excessive. PLD is the better off among the tank roles at the moment by sheer virtue of not being as janky and weird to play but it is teetering on the edge of being disregarded in muh speedrun meta, which is the meta that people seem to care about. WIth the amount of complaining about WAR/DRK, I wouldn't be surprised if the QoL fixes or buffs push them over PLD.

PLD has excellent cds and raidwide cds and healing too. The biggest issue is that their kit is wholly defensive. Sword or Shield, all PLD is doing is building up their Sheltron and Intervention. Shield Oath affects Holy Spirit, unlike Bloodspiller's interaction with Grit. Grit also being the times when Blackest Night turns into a solid gain when used properly. WAR is a bit weaker with only Upheaval scaling with Defiance and Unchained sharing its cd with Inner release but basically, if both tanks are swapping off each other regularly as they should be, PLD's cd count is unnecessary. The tier will need extraordinarily large sustained damage for PLD to actually shine, which not even Gordias or Midas did.
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>>180846745
What are you gonna do about it huh.
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>>180846741
Bloodspiller hits for pretty much the same damage in or out of Grit so it's nowhere near WAR levels of memery.

Doesn't stop me from Delirium + Blood Weapon every time it's off CD tho.
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lets talk about swiming
>one of the most shilled features
>couldnt even make it seamless
>sea floor is completely dead
>no fish in the sea
>literally wothless "content"

what did they mean by this?
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>get to the first new dungeon after slacking for a bit
>only new person in the group
>die on the second boss because I'm a retard that didn't know what to do after getting targeted
>healer leaves me to dry
>accept it because I realize I fucked up
>after the boss drops healer goes oh wait you weren't the one doing shit DPS I should've brought you back
I don't know if I should've taken that as a compliment or not.
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>>180846429
I started creating Party Finder farm groups on Leviathan since I'm a tank and DPS love instant queues. I used it to assess if the people joining have a decent attitude before I make a recruitment pitch.

About 98% of people you'll find are already in FCs, but I'd say at least a quarter of those don't have any real loyalty to their FC and are simply there just because. It's tough to weed out people who simply want a free ride vs those actually looking to improve and commit to content though, and on several occasions I've found people who pretty much bumble through raids and die to mechanics on various fights.
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>Ageha's animation and sound
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>>180846682
Stop fucking posting that disgusting shit, it's bad enough that I have to scroll by whenever I'm browsing Sankaku.

Even that faggot who only ever draws that one C@ with different hairstyles in lewd outfits is better.
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>>180846463
you sound like a huge faggot.

In ArcheAge I understood why people hate each other, for example in my mixed housing zone we killed each other often... but in FFXIV?!
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>only 2 dots
>Bane mega nerfed
>Bahamut isn't big enough

No, I'm not having fun.
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>>180846542
>>180846600
^ fucking this
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>>180846752
Legitimately forgot it was even a thing? I guess it's kinda cool if you're a gatherer? You know your feature is worthless when not even AFK sluts are bothering to take a swim.
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HAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
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>>180846757
Not him, but I hate my neighbors in my housing zone because they're memers and keep custom emote spamming in their yard.
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What lvl can I start making enough profit to not want to kill myself as a BTN/MIN?
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>>180846763
Lvl 0.
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>>180846738
>pointless one-dimensional characters with scion-tier charisma
>bland geography and monsters
>weak dungeon
>easily forgettable quests
>"best part of the game"
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>>180846445

I only use it when I have a card I want in my spread or already used draw to RR what I want. You have to fill one to really make the most, otherwise RNG will fuck you over

I mostly use it to pull an extra heal from the Lady, and maybe draw a Balance/Arrow if I got nothing from my initial draw/Spin
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>>180846632
They'll need to do something about it because eventually you're going to get tanks in roulette that are fresh off the boat who can't hold hate against DPS wearing Omega gear. Healers will eventually out DPS tanks who wear fending equipment (a good WHM already does).

They add all these cool new mechanics and changes to tanks but the way things are going, they won't be used as much because you gotta spam your enmity combos that haven't changed at all.
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>>180846738

just a reminder that you conquered the Xaela so that they would destroy 3 miniature airships
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>>180846732
No, the final boss is going to be you.
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>>180846761
>rolls a 2
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>>180846758
You thought your shit got kicked in DRK/WAR got fucked, WHM/SCH got fucked if SE has proven anything is that they have no idea how to balance shit just like paladins in HW for all of it.

So i left and i play gw2 im much happier now.
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My first was sch so i get both smn and sch out of the deal but i recognize that sch is ded and healing overall has become a boring shitfest.

Should I level up ast or rdm? I enjoy rdm a lot but healing has been what ive raided on since 2.0. I know AST as good as I know SCH as well.
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>>180846771
>WHM/SCH got fucked
WHM is in a better position than it has been in years.

And SCH is fine. Just get piety gear.
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>>180846765
Yeah, Ala Mhigo was pretty shit huh.
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>>180846768
Let's remember that rag tag armies marched and took forts with huge walls and Garleans never even closed the gate. Also, Garleans have no legions apparently so a bunch of peasants can beat them.
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>>180846771

AST/MCH are the only outliers though. Tanks perform similarly well, Most dps are close enough to each other. For all the people saying shits broke, they've balanced things out pretty well for a fresh expansion. I mean look at WoW.
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>>180846768
The """war""" cutscenes were absolutely pitiful. Like groups of 10 people at most just reusing PLD animations over and over and over again in front of the other group of <10 people.
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>>180846773
>sch is fine
Honestly i disagree with this.

Its healing feels so weak, single target is less potent than rdm's and stuff feels like it hits much harder now.

I think they need some potency increases and probably a skill that guarantees a crit if they wanna justify AST's shields being so powerful.
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>>180846772
If you play dps prepare for those queue times half the tanks i know quit the game out of protest because of these changes I am one of those tanks.

If your gonna heal, do it as a AST because they fucking amazing.
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>game is so easy it doesnt matter what job you play
>"wahh my job sucks"

maybe its you who sucks
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give me your rage stories
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>>180846758
Bahamut's big enough. I love it very much, but I really don't need it clogging other players' screens. If anything why isn't Bahamut semi-transparent for other players. It's not like anyone else can interact with it.
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>>180846780
Did you consider that people care about playstyle more than optimization?
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>>180846776
Tanks don't preform similarly well, PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25% on the dps front with way better mitigation cd's.

AST, out performed WHM/SCH by a huge margin with better buffs and infinite mana. Please stop.
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>>180846781
I main SCH. It hurts. Rage ensues
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>>180846757
It was a fem c@ who would most of the time hang around the bell/in front of their house. When I came up to the bell they would change job and show off their shit. Even getting closer without interacting with anything. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

The previous owner of that house was a c@fag who did the same. Pretty sure it's the same person who just used a fantasia and changed their name. Both german too. I have never seen others in the housing zone act like this in all these years . I believe they were a bit jealious of me having a bigger house, maybe?
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>>180846784
>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25% on the dps front
lol
prove it
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>chaos is being nuked again
rip
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>>180846761
Seen it drop two times in about 30 kills. Rolled below 20 both times
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>>180846732
Void worlds are stuck in stasis almost, in a state between life and death. In light worlds, everything is basically absorbed back into the lifestream, returning the world to a sort of primordial state where it can begin again. Naturally, it's also unpopular if you looking to, you know, continue living.

Still, with things being as they are, the Garleans would look downright sympathetic if their leaders weren't universally sociopaths. I mean, they get their shit kicked in for centuries by nearby tribes because they're the only people, and probably the only living creatures on Hydalin, that can't use magic whatsoever. I'd be pretty pissed to if I were in a world where everyone could create fire with a few words and heal the sick by laying on hands and no patron deity ever answered my prayers. And their response to all this is to build machines to suck the magic out of the earth and put the gods who had forsaken them under their boot heel, which is perfectly understandable and admirable.
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>>180846783
no because nearly every complaint is tied to how effective something is, not the sequence of buttons they press.
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>>180846542
Fucking kek are you baiting ? I'm not even talking about friendship or whatever, who on earth block someone because he picked a race in a video game ? Just go talk with normal beings, mental institution is not a place to make friend when you're mentally healthy anon.
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>>180846781
Fuck Tonberry ENG players. I'm so glad I couldn't transfer there and ended up in a more backwater JPN server. The bad Tonberry players (both in skill and manner) really give a bad impression to JPN players.
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>>180846644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOn98LH1304
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>>180846780
Doubt many people care about balance, but rather how the job feels.
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>>180846778
>I think they need some potency increases
SCH already has largeness + Fey Illumination for a 30% bonus heal.
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>>180846429
Just how bad is G? Currently in it and contemplating leaving because the place is a fucking bore.
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>EU duty finder is down AGAIN

jesus christ
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>>180846796
Largesse doesn't affect like half of our kit. Fuck off.
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>>>/vg/xivg

You're crowding /v/ with 24/7 generals
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Is there a way to make a macro to use abilities like they are in PvP areas? I could free up a lot of space on my hotbar if I could condense combo abilities down to a single button per combo, shave off three to four buttons with those alone.
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>>180846765
>with scion-tier charisma
Hey, lets not say things we can't take back.
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>>180846791
Well its no good having a fun job if nobody wants you there because they sperg over numbers. Ideally you have both.
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>>180846750
Make you my girlfiend
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A fuck me
>system error occurred during event movement

Can't get into a story instance.
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>>180846800
That would be a legit complaint if the mod would remove garbage threads and troll threads and we still didn't have enough space. But since they can't moderate those with any efficiency, at least this is video games.
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>>180846787
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/657

Spend 10min there, and you find out spreadsheeting in there aswell for you ppl who like to math.
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>>180846796
largesse and fey illumination effects 3 skills in your kit
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>>180846803
>because they sperg over numbers.
typically these are the kinds of players you benefit from not playing with in the first place.
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>>180846429
Former officer reporting.

It's shit.
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>>180846800
I agree, we need a 50th persona waifu thread. One thread about video games because it's impossible to discuss on /vg/, how awful. Let me go ahead and make a MAKOTO IS BEST GIRL thread
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>>180846439
>Pyramidal system where you can't even play the game unless you suck the FC Leader's dick hard enough and bribe them
That's fucking trash
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>>180846658
>GW2
kek
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>>180846811
>because it's impossible to discuss on /vg/

Just click the link retard
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314 SAM

Bored af, cba to farm for mounts in trap parties. Why can't I be a casual?
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>>180846784

>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25%

Uh no.

>>180846807

Really, you're going to the OF for this. Not even a reddit link? You're using some outdated as fuck info.
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Luckily this isn't subscription based game, otherwise I'd be pretty mad
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DO NOT RESPOND TO THE AUTISTIC HALL MONITORS
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>>180846814
>he doesn't know how cancerous /xivg/ is
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>umbral hearts disappear when eno drops
>polyglot does not
>element gauge doesn't show thunderclouds or firestarters

Yoshi this is some bullshit and you know it
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>>180846814
Any post you make will be buried under cliquey circlejerks, attention whoring, ERP and so on. They actively discourage game discussion and you seriously have issues if a video game thread is what you choose to scream about on /v/
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>Inner Release
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>>180846819
>better spread that cancer over here
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>>180846673
its hard to feel sorry for war mains after the nerfs when most of them think like this
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>>180846820
>useless huton job gauge instead of a ninjutsu is ready job gauge
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>>180846784
>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25% on the dps front

Factually untrue
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>>180846810
Former Founder reporting in

It's gud.
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>>180846819
We're rapidly approaching /xivg/ levels of cancer in these threads.
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>>180846807
There's literally nothing there that says PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25%. It sounds like you're parroting some bullshit on /v/ and haven't actually done any testing yourself.

The fact is tank DPS is pretty close and balanced right now. There's no where near 25% like you claim
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>>180846816
How about you actually look at the forums and see people posting there real numbers.
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>>180846672
You can't use during the opener.
I guess I'l just hold it until they refresh at the same time
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>>180846823
>I've literally never been to /vg/
Good to know.
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Rate my whm
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>>180846784
>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25%
>still believing that dumbass spreadsheet
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>try sch
>que up for a trial
>realize I have no idea when to sacred soil

luckily nothing in pre SB does that much damage now but that's the biggest hurdle I have against playing this job
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>>180846823
If only you knew how bad things really were.
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>>180846665
>Warfag is sad that his class is balanced now
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>>180846777
even at small scale this shit felt way better in the cutscene before final steps of faith

the war cutscenes in stormblood were hilariously bad
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>>180846420
I would but European servers are still fucking roadblocking main quests a week after official launch. How do you fuck up this bad?
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>>180846833
not astro / 10
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>>180846833
Lizard girl#584684687687 boring as fuck
Also, go to /vg/
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>>180846839
>European servers are still fucking roadblocking main quests a week after official launch
EU servers were fixed in hours
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>>180846829
Okay so xeno running pld/pld is just for show right?

I'm actually convince that all of you who dispute the tank numbers either don't tank or play and paladin trying to defend how op is it, further more if you spend time on any forum thats centered around tanking everyone but PLDs are butthurt.

How about you show me Numbers WHERE THEY ARE DOING NEARLY THE SAME i gave you my refences how about all of you show me yours?
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>>180846827
can't really vouch for that when we're so big we need a g5 and we're still doing shit when there was only g3
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>>180846842
The DF is dead right now
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>>180846835
You basically never use it unless imminent raidwide damage is coming and your co-healer is low on MP. Even so you could probably get more milage from a Succ + Indom. If Aetherflow is off CD and you still have a stack lingering about it can be a good way to spend it to not waste it.
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>>180846474
>>180846519
From someone who actually levelled red mage in the first 2 days of this expac, I can tell you that, because the armory bonus doubled, the number required went down significantly. I'd say an average of 3 per level from 50-60
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>>180846597
checked
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>>180846839
What? I literally did Rauhban on EU the second day and its been fixed since.
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>>180846842
right now I can't do a main quest because duty finder is broken. i'm on Lich. This happened a day or 2 ago as well.
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>>180846849
yes the functionality goes on and off, right now it's broken. There shouldn't be issues this far in.
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>>180846850
Finished my daily roulette during last 3 days just fine
You lying
Also found crystal tower party for my 50 lvl rdm
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>>180846843
>xeno
lol

i mean if youre serious, he ran 2 war for creator(lmao)when drk and war were still better even from an autistic metafag point of view
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>>180846420

Ok guys I'm looking for an MMO to get invested in where I can find sweet people to play with and enjoy myself a la old school so I'm gathering information from the different communities of the games I'm interested in.

>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?
>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
>Is healing and support viable and
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?

thanks in advance for all the responses
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>>180846843
>Okay so xeno running pld/pld
More fanfiction bullshit you're making up. Him switching to PLD doesn't mean he's running 2 PLD
>i gave you my refences
You literally didn't, you linked to the OF page that had literally nothing about PLD doing 25% more damage than WAR/DRK.
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>>180846658
>played at launch
>quit after a month

Is 80% of the playerbase still Warriors and Guardians?
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>>180846852
this shits happening to me right now faggot. I have also managed to do my roulettes the past 3 days, doesn't mean it's not constantly fucking breaking. It was like this for hours the other day
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>>180846843

>i gave you my refences how about all of you show me yours?
>official forums
>listening to a balding middle aged tantrum child

It's just common fucking sense. Circles of answering have tank dps as WAR>PLD>DRK.
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>People saying SCH is dead

Nice way to reveal who's "midcore" a.k.a "everyon is bad but me reddit all stars"
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>>180846833
I think Au Ra looks real fucked up. The best looking ones that try to have the least dragon-like features.
The rabbit-like race would be cool though.
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>>180846843
Xeno declared WAR to be ''unnecessarily complicated'' and that's why he's switching.

>>180846857
Nothing fucking works, instances, df, nothing.
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So how long until they realise EU is having server problems and move the data center to turkey?
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>>180846862
everywhere is having issues you faggot
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>>180846858
>>180846843

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6iul92/70_war_and_pld_sss_parse_videos/

Get fucked you fotm dipshit.
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>>180846833
Everything looks great except what the fuck's going on with your head.
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>>180846862
NA east coast shitters are clogging EU servers because they have lower ping there.
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>>180846854
>are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
pre endgame most people are nice, once you hit endgame and try to que for stuff you'll encounter the best and brightest of the internet. not moba levels but.. it's not pretty
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
yes you are encouraged to dps as much as you can
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
yes especially now with two popular new dps jobs
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Give me ONE (1) reason I shouldn't just swap into Deliverance with 100 meter when I need to do my Meme Release combo? It's only a 200 potency loss compared to dumping it on two Inner Beasts, which is about the same as what the other two tanks lose when they spend a GCD switching to their DPS stance.
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>caring about meta
>in a game where literally any job and any composition can clear all content
>in a game that isn't competetive at all aside from le world first meme
Explain this to me.
I played TESO while taking a break from XIV. That game has fucking leaderboards and meta builds and compositions to the point where only certain classes are allowed to perform certain roles because endgame raids are literally unwinnable with certain compositions, which leads to a cancerous meta-mentality where some fags will even kick during PUG dungeons if players choose to play with certain unoptimal builds even if they can still perform acceptably.

Literally no reason to care about the meta in XIV. It's like trying to be elitist where the elite practically doesn't even exist.
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>>180846650
Don't make tanking more fun by turning us into DPS with rotations, make it more fun by making dungeons more challenging.
Quit giving us hallways with easily-handled tightly-grouped packs of 3 enemies with a mile between each pull.
Give use more reinforcements or environmental hazards so we have to position ourselves well. I still think the first room of Aurum Vale is one of the funnest places to tank just because there's so many things to be wary of. Wandering mobs, environmental shit like the poison puddles, enemies that pull you in from a distance if you're too close, and so on. Not a single part of any dungeon in the entire game is as challenging or satisfying as this room and it really bums me out that they'll never be daring enough to try something similar ever again.
Same with trials, give us more environmental shit to worry about or maybe a steady stream of random reinforcement adds to keep our heads up with instead of an obvious "time to run around spamming Flash" add phase literally every fight.
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>>180846854
>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?
Base + expansion but base is real cheap. There is also trial.
>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
Not mandatory.
>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
Can only craft, but it's a different class. So it's not like you have one global XP like in ArcheAge.
> are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
They are nice but I am not on an RP server.
>Is healing and support viable and
What?
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
You heal and support and dps if you are not a lazy cunt.
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
Not really, ~7 minutes on EU for me, was like 14 before expansion.
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>>180846863
I am specifically referring to the duty finder problems we keep having on chaos and is happening right now, according to the lodestone it is a problem only being seen on chaos, no need to be a cunt.
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I'm veteran rank 2. It says I have 60 days? How do I get my rewards..
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>>180846864
What is DPS parse? I am a scrub, enlighten me pls.

People always say "you only do X damage by parsing"... what?
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>>180846860
>The best looking ones that try to have the least dragon-like features.

And here I was getting criticized way back for not having ENOUGH dragon-like features.
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>play whm
>let people who stand in fire aoes, hit constantly by same obvious telegraphed attacks die

You don't deserve to be healed.
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>>180846873
Delivery mog.
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>400 queue on Omega
what the fuck, did everyone transfer?
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>>180846856
How about you read up on his raid comps and im fucking done moron go troll somewhere else on the off chance your not trolling and you really believe this go fucking read a book.

>>180846856
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScu2VmuRt51eT-d3qmCahR-04Pfl9pqtxm10qoNy4fdyFTbSQ/viewanalytics

Most polls will reflect this, also feels that way in game aswell.

>>180846864
PLD Video 3119 DPS
WAR Video 3225 DPS
edit
DRK Video 2469.39 DPS

AND WHY THE FUCK ARE PALADIN WHO USE SWORD AND BOARD SO FUCKING HIGH

Also nigs can't properly rotate there dps for shit.
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>>180846876
You're slowing down the run by not adjusting. They wont learn.
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>>180846875
The idea of Au Ra is not bad, but they just look "off" to me.
Not that I support the midget race either, or the too tall ones that have only messed up faces.
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>>180846597
wew lad
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>>180846878
yes
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>>180846854
You asked kinda wring question
ARR is still one of mmo games, where you actually has 40-80hours of pure content before you reach max level and endgame starts
So if you aren't prepared for this, and want something like guild wars 2 or wildstar don't even start
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>>180846864

No but please saying DRK/WAR is too weak and keep sucking PLD's cock. It'll only make it more hilarious when DRK/WAR get buffed to become the "speedrun" meta and PLD becomes the shit for another expansion because no one needs a class overloaded on cds when there's already an excess of them.
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>>180846869
>Explain this to me.
Autism. Big fish little pond syndrome. Can't think of any other fitting descriptions.
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>Leveling roulette at 50 gives around 330k
>POTD at the same level gives just under 500k
>Best source of exp after 60 is MSQ roulette, with pvp after that and then leveling roulette

It's a little disgusting how PVP and POTD are the best way to level. You would think LEVELING ROULETTE would give more exp than either of those.
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I waited 3 hours to get in yesterday what the fuck is this
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>>180846854

>>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?

base game is fine while you are leveling up, it's story driven so you will have to do shit in order anyway, by the way you can play a trial for free to try the game out
>>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
see up
>>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
Confused by the question, you can level up crafting but it's separate by your normal exp bar done with quests, if you are asking if crafted gear is competitive then no, but it's not much worse than bis gear and it does help, personally I find it relaxing to do and it's a nice time waster
>are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
mostly nice, at least on EU, avoid french servers though
>>Is healing and support viable
this game uses the old trinity so it's essential senpai
>>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
there is an in-game joke about this, there's an npc that keeps crying she wants to heal only when everyone should DPS in the game, even healers
>>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
not really, 10-15 minutes tops at the moment
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>>180846878
That's not too bad on balmung the peak queue should be around 6k.
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>>180846879

>DRK parse was with full fending gear and str/tenacity/crit melds.

3k is 270 STR accs territory.
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>>180846879

>We want all 3 tanks to be able to OT
>Lol just boost PLD's damage output to match the other two without taking away any of their utility
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THEY ALL RUNNING PLD/PLD NOW?
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>>180846854
>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?
FFXIV complete pack.
>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
Trial mode is free and you can do up to level 35 content.
expansions are mandatory to progress after level 50, game works like a JRPG so you need to beat the base game's main story to start the expansion's main story.
>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
Compared to other MMOs? XIV is babby's first grindfest, shit is so easy you can even ignore daily bonuses.
Crafting can be quite grinding without money, though. Gotta get some cash first to invest on fast leveling methods. Gatherers usually is a good choice to start, but there are other methods.
>are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
Most of the time people are nice. Like every other game, elititism exist but at least it is limited to savage raid content and some "hardcore" FCs (player-made guilds).
>Is healing and support viable and
Mandatory, Duty Finder (auto-party system) will always build a part of tank, healer, and DPS.
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
Everyone deals damage, even healers. "Healing downtime" (everyone is at +80% HP, no party-wide damage incoming) is huge so you can easily DPS as a healer.
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
Right now, yes, we got two new DPS jobs. Usual queue for them is 10~20min for dungeons, lower for trials (big bosses) and raids (especially 24-man content).
Everyone have the same queue time in PvP.
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>tfw only want to play tank but my girlfriend wants to play
>she plays Monk really well, better than I was expecting given she has no MMO experience besides Guild Wars 2
>but she only has 3 or so hours a day to play while I'm awaiting transfer, meaning I have all day to play

Shit, what do I do? Do I just level an alt as a tank? This is from 1-50, by the way.
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>>180846880
Telling them I don't heal retards and they leave the duty upset because their small brain can't handle it saves me the time of taking 6 mins to clear first room in AV.
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>>180846881
Roe aren't messed up, that's just rude.
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>>180846843
PLD/PLD is sufficient damage, easy to play, and amazing utlility. If you're trying to do prog, this is very good to run because you can survive longer with the amount of mitigation they have without having a huge hit to raid DPS.
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>>180846738
>>180846746
Here ya go
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>>180846761

>Kamuy

Isn't supposed to be Kamui?
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>>180846869

People just like to pick sides and argue. It's like sports teams. The reality is the tank differences are so minor they're not going to matter unless you're literally pushing for world-first kills. For 99.99% of the playerbase it doesn't fucking matter.

t. Raided mythic WoW as an Unholy DK until recently
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>>180846869
>tfw I'm a Nightblade Tank in ESO and you can't stop me.
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whens the raid coming out
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>>180846854

honestly all your questions are avoidable and can be condensed into one

would you like to play world of warcraft with less content but a final fantasy skin on it? if the answer is yes then by all means join the fun senpai
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>>180846896

The problem with roes is they only have one good face which EVERYONE uses. Roes have the worst sameface syndrome of any race. Thankfully it's not a big problem because there aren't very many of them in the first place.
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>>180846901
Fuck off Salzor.
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>>180846902
July 4th supposedly.
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>>180846894
Just level two class? Keep your main quests alone, so you can do those with your gf.
You two can also do daily PVP, daily dungeons, that's the easiest.
You can also do the Palace of the Dead together.

So basically you two do a few levels, then you can swap to any class you like.
If she plays DPS (MNK), you can play either tank, heal, or dps... anything really.
You can also level two tanks (PLD is more tanky, WAR is more DPS.)
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>>180846895
Ive literally never seen someone leave a dungeon when called out even when theyre objectively playing wrong. They just get defensive.
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>>180846905
You cannot stop me.
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How many runs would you guys say to take a class to level 50 by PotD? Armory bonus is in effect
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>>180846892
Its funny because its true.
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>>180846854

I forgot to mention that you should NEVER EVER buy the game on steam in case you decide to hop in, it will fuck with any future purchase you make because it will have to be on steam
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>>180846888
Your punishment for picking a meme server
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>>180846904

Game badly needs new faces or permutations at least for the roster of races.
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>>180846476
potd gives 60 verity at level 70
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>>180846912
I have it on steam and it really isn't a big deal

now if I were to buy it knowing what I know I'd get it off steam but let's not be dramatic
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>>180846897
Do you see this as an issue? As a DRK player i just left i play my class im gimping my FC and if i play a tank it has to be a PLD because the rest pale before it.

Not a fan of dps, i do heal but only if i have too.
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>>180846896
>>180846904
>>180846914
This pretty much. As I said they have potential but needs fixing.
The tall race females also need fixing for their faces, they look like drag queens.
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>>180846420
Free Trial up to level 35.
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>>180846917
What purpose does the screenshot serve?
It's a nice glamour, mind. Even if it's a lizard.
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>>180846912

>not paying your subscription by selling steam cards

lmaoing at this fag
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>>180846917

If PLD/PLD becomes a thing that will just push SE to nerf them even faster

Honestly the tank meta would be fine with just a nerf to PLD's DPS. WAR & DRK each have unique strengths but there's no reason to bring them when PLD has so much more utility and still does the equal or greater damage.
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>>180846897

All the mitigation in the world won't save your group from dying to mechanics. Tank busters are the easiest part of any fight and Intervention isn't going to save a DPS who gets 50k merked because he didn't pick up the magical cupcake in time. Progging quickly depends on your static's overall ability to learn and do things quickly and take advantage of all dps cds, not just tanks. It's not what meme class meta you thought up. WAR/WAR was thought to be the comp for Gordias until it was smashed down.
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is there anything more cringe than maid outfit glamour
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>>180846917
The only thing more useless than your screenshot is the rest of your post. Fuck off back to /vg/ please.
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>>180846918
It's more the proportions that need fixing than anything.
Femroes have pretty thin waists and no ass so they look like dudes half the time.
>>180846922
They need to just revert back to VIT damage and remove losing gauge while stance dancing.
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Serious question, aside from the 3 dungeons what is there to do at 70?

As I typed that I realized I forgot about primals, so aside from dungeons and primals.
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>>180846917
I think unless you're in world prog, anyone who think PLD/PLD should be the way to go are just parroting the people who are on a completely different mindset then them.

I think any tank combination is viable (sans WAR/WAR and DRK/DRK), and maybe you can feel good that your group doesn't have to rely on so much cushion utility to clear a raid tier.
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>>180846627
A army based on the Roman legion and therefore merit and the guy did not fight with his men on a critical mission and a simple ambush.

Oh I think he pretty much got what would any ancient army from China to Rome would do in such cases if not with heads missing.
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>>180846926
They need fixing in short.
But hey, all races could use an overhaul really.

Don't know how SE cannot spare a few artists to add and rework such content.
Even Blizzard fixed up their races, and there is no PS3 anymore either - so no system limitation excuse.
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>>180846908
You're doing it wrong then. You have to insult them and stand firm they're garbage
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>>180846917
>Actually letting your FC dictate what class you play

Shit FC. Also fuck off.
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>>180846922

Lower damage you mean. What does each tank gain in tank stance? Let's take a look:

WAR:

Upheaval
Vengeance gives potency spike per hit
Unchained/Inner Release

DRK:

Bloodspiller
Blood Price
Blackest Night is a gain

PLD:

Shield Swipe

The only thing PLD has going for it is that it can stack absurd mitigation for 1-2 hits. Still doesn't change that with Shirk, tanks are going to be swapping actively, in which case PLD's cds are a moot point unless this tier is extremely heavy damage wise which all reason stands to point that it wont be.
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>>180846773
I think it's probably okay too, and that's what people I trust have said. I just don't want to level mine, the 60 kit seems so sparse now. At least with WHM I can just vaporize everything with my new limitless MP when I get shitty DPS in DF, I feel like I'll be sitting there broiling away one target at a time on scholar and it doesn't seem as fun. I realize WHM doesn't have a lot of buttons either, but its DPS skills have more "oomph!" and great animations.

To be clear I thought scholar was pretty boring in 4 man before, but at least I felt like I was putting out a lot of damage and could spam blizz 2 on big pulls.
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>>180846920
Thanks even if it is a "lizard" its the sexist lizard in all of eorzea.
>>180846922
Idk about this remember 3.0 PLDs stayed gimp until 4.0 i fear SE will do it again.
>>180846925
K heres another one.
>>180846928
idk about WAR/WAR but DRK/DRK is absolutely shit, please atleast know what your talking about before you say shit.
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>>180846935
You do understand English right?
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>>180846935

>please atleast know what your talking about before you say shit.
See: >>180846771 >>180846784
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>>180846932
I run the FC....there is that right? You know playing for the betterment of your FC you fucking scrub.

>Can't into making your own guild.
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>>381909576
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>>180846935
He was saying that DRK/DRK isn't viable just like PLD/PLD you illiterate retard
Fuck off back to /xivg/
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>>180846935
>retard avatarfag can't read
Reminder to report avatarfags if you want to keep xiv threads on /v/
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Stop responding.
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>>180846876
>WHMs won't DPS and now they won't heal
Amazing
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>>180846429
Are there any decent FC's on Leviathan?

I'm looking for one right now.
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The Tripfag one and you guys are to blame. You responded to the faggot and now we are in the /vg/ cuckshed.
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>moving a thread after 500 posts and already autosaging on page 8
>now there's two threads on /vg/
Can the retarded fucking mods do anything right?
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>>180846875
There's a difference between GOOD dragon-like features (horns, to a certain extent the tail) and shitty deviantart-tier features (skin cancer and meme skin colors). You're likely getting criticized by hardcore weebs and edgelords whose autism prevented them from leaving CC features turned off; their favorite arguments are "generic" "just play a midlander" but they didn't realize in a game where 99% of the population tries to be the most special snowflake imaginable, they are the generic ones.
I have one with minimal draconic features and a non-anime color scheme and got reactions and headturns from every other race, even those who wouldn't give a fuck about lizards, but NOT lizards themselves. No regrets.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180847068
won*
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>>180846876
Sounds to me the lily system is designed for you and people you play with.
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>comfy /v/ thread gets moved to unofficial /trash/

sad desu
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RIP good XIV threads, they were fun while they lasted
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Everyone have their Shirogane plots picked out?
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>>180847082
>I have one with minimal draconic features and a non-anime color scheme and got reactions and headturns from every other race
This is what I did when I last played lizard, which admittedly was a long time ago
Spoilering for easily triggered nerds
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>>180846943
I DPS but it got gutted for the community because known of them can grasp simple concepts and unable to perform well in dungeons that a house plant would have no trouble in.
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The sunset is so pretty
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>>180847294
It's the same shit desu.
Never understood why the mods didn't do this sooner.
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>>180847651
FUCK OFF BACK TO- oh wait.
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Every monday, the same silly janitor.
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>>180846922
3.0 WAR was far more unbalanced that PLD is right now, and neither WAR/WAR was the meta nor they got nerfed until 4.0
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>http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/1fdfce556ddefb51e35ceed0017f84f83ff3b4f3
>Translation: We are currently counting pre-order money and waiting for people to get bored and logout to "fix" server congestion. Please understand you are not entitled to play the game you pay a monthly sub for.
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>>180847862
>you dont pay my sub
fuck i thought you guys were joking. i never believed anyone would say that.
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>like 3 posts left until auto sage
>move it xd
Retarded mods
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>>180847651
>>180847452
Oh boy, the thread gets moved to /vg/ and immediately gets flooded by cancer. What a surprise
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How long is DF gonna be down for this time...
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>>180848156
The thread was already cancerous before.
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>>180848198
Until people go to sleep as always.
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>>180848156
There was already a tripfag being retarded on purpose and dozens of anons being baited. We deserve this.
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>>180847693
t. /xivg/ regular
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>There are f2p MMOs that have better servers and smoother launches than this one
Really makes you think.
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>>180848417
Of course they would be smoother since nobody plays them
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>>180848545
The point is that this monthly sub money is supposed to support network infrastructure. It clearly doesn't.
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Just make these threads in the afternoon/evening. This shit drama has happened constantly over the past week, clearly there's a retard mod and a butthurt autist making their rounds at this specific time of the day.
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>>180848689

Got DDoSed. Heavensward was fine and it had a similar explosion of players.
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>want to play a fast, speedy, free-flowing class so i pick monk
>get pretty far into the leveling, too far to be able to change class and catch back up to friends
>read some post on stormblood monk and find out at level cap they get all their speed from greased lightning removed
why, whyyyyyyy would you do that to me, please i just want to go fast i don't care about my dps why are you making me slow wasn't speed supposed to be a core pillar of monk gameplay what are you doing to my hopes and dreams
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>>180849338
Literally one ability with only a ~20% uptime that makes all your attacks hit like a truck in exchange. The sheer majority of the time you'll still be Fist of the North Star.
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New player here, why did I just randomly receive 1 million gil?
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>>180846800
kill yourself, xiv threads are one of the only gaming related threads on /v/
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>>180849074
If the game was really getting DDoSed then no one would be playing because the servers would be lagging and people would be getting DC'd constantly. As it stands it was only an increase in que times which has nothing to do with DDoS. Square lied.
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>>180849608
New incentive for playing on servers with low population, the first time you hit lvl 30 with a character you get a free 1m gil.
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>>180849775
Totally not exploitable for gil sellers btw.
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>>180849697

People were d/cing and lagging during the first few days though. ARR->Heavensward, the first expac of an MMO, had much greater overall interest with Ishgard pretty much flooded with people and it didn't have any d/c issues to the point of SB.
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>>180849872
people were dcing because of server bottlenecking that had nothing to do with DDoS and everything to do with both the poor netcode and absolutely abysmal abuse of instancing that FF14 suffers from.
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>>180849775
Oh cool, thanks
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>tfw on the Seventh Astral Era quest line and queue's are hell because everyone has either gotten past this quest line or given up playing before it

20 minutes for a single queue
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Which Role Actions for summoner ?
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how can i look older, don't like this smooth baby face look that makes my character look like a teenager
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>tfw thread moved to /vg/
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>>180850091

No one had problems getting into DRK/MCH/AST's instances while SAM/RDM had 90ks all around.
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I dont get DRK AoE at all. Maybe it gets a lot better with quietus. As PLD I can pretty much dump my entire TP bar into a dozen Total Eclipse like its nothing while DRK struggles to get off maybe 5-6 Abyssals. Is it just weaker now or does it work out to to be close?
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>>180846420
Are the job jump potions worth it? $25 in exchange for 300,000 gil, shire gear, and saving me 30+ hours of my time seems like a good deal.
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>ex susanoo led by dark knight tank
>has sick deeps accessories
>gets one shot by the tank busters in phase 1
>demands I off tank because i'm a paladin with even sicker deeps while wearing vit accessories
>tell him ill HG a tankbuster
>he pulls agro off me anyways because I need to be doing the deeps
>he dies 3 more times during the fight to every tank buster he doesn't mitigate
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I keep hearing about tanks having trouble holding agro on here. I've done all of SB content as tank and I've never had a problem keeping agro. Only time I ever lose it is when it's one of those situations where a new pull spawns after the first one and it's too spread out for me to flash them all at once and some chuckelfuck DPS decides to attack the ONLY one I haven't agrod yet. But even then you can just do provoke + shield lob, or if somehow you lose agro to a whole group you can do that AoE provoke + flash

Seriously WHAT content are people not able to keep agro on? because it's easy from Halitali to Kugane Castle
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>>180851197
Lakshim EX staying 2nd agro as OT to bait blue ball of fuck the raid when the BLM and SAM are pulling fucking 4.7k and your MT won't let you fucking shirk provoke to secure 2nd agro list.
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>>180851182
Its not even the accs thats the problem. You can easily mitigate that with Rampart/BTN, Shadowwall/BTN, or just Living Dead.
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so which DPS jobs are actually worth playing? I'm feeling a bit lost
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>>180851116
Even in a shitty job you make those 25$ in less than two hours, so yes, it is very worth it
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can i increase my grand company rank by doing grand company leves for other grand companies? or only my own?
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>>180851396
Anything but smn mch and mnk
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>>180851460
Only your own
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Continue.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13290985
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>>180851505
But SMN is great??
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>>180851396
NIN and BRD mostly.

Don't bother with SAM, at least 40% of all DPS players are playing that right now and you will NOT get their party spots.
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>>180851329
you cant see when the phase 1 tank busters are happening until you memorized the timing and they do over 30k damage. With str accessories you either know the timing or you die.
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>>180851573
So if I don't like either of those I should just not play?
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>>180846420
>>180846420
>>180846420
An update regarding resolutions for the instance roadblock and 90k errors on the NA data center: http://sqex.to/9J2

>Job Guide
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/battle/

>4.0 Patch Notes
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/296b070f41c0e0dedae24de50ae7c51abfa95055

>Callback Campaign for Returning Players
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/callback/

>Resources, Guides, Free Companies and Linkshells
https://pastebin.com/raw/uf0k1J5a

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>>180846420
>>180846420
>>180846420
OP is missing an OP
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>>180851556
>not listing elezen
Can't even describe what a filthy fucking philistine you are.
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>>180851597
You could just roll cooldowns through it.
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>>180851720
Who?
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>>180851718
This thread was shoved over here from /v/, don't worry about it.
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>>180851695
Could always play PLD or AST.
But yeah, it's not a good time to be playing DPS. Only 3 jobs are viable, one of which is too overcrowded to play.
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>>180851459
Yeah you're right, now it's just a question of which job to jump.

I've got PLD at 70 and was thinking of doing BRD or WAR.
>>180851695
Play whatever you want, but if you're this worried about what to play I assume you are trying to be meta and those jobs are the most meta DPS right now.
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>>180851842
>Only 3 jobs are viable
What are you saying
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>>180851842
Can we stop misusing the word viable?
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Why the fuck is he so handsome.
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>>180851867
I don't necessarily wanna be super meta, I just know that people will want to follow the meta no matter what level they're actually at.
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>fighting boss
>standard 8 man party through duty finder
>Me and the other DPS hitting the boss hard
>Get inflicted with fear
>Neither of the healers cast esuna so Im just standing there for 40 seconds
>Other DPS also get fear so we are all just standing there
>Healers refuse to use esuna
>We all die
>Healers try to say its DPS's fault
>Everyone tells them that they are retarded and they could have casted esuna to heal our fear stat
>Healers get pissed and leave
>mfw have to sit through another 20 minute queue cause healers were assholes
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>>180852059
Well then play NIN, BRD, SAM (Good luck with this shit lmao) PLD, AST, and MAYBE BLM and RDM depending on the fights these guys can pull great numbers.

If you want to play MNK or MCH get ready to be laughed at.
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>>180852026
Just because any comp can clear content doesn't mean that most jobs are going to be welcomed by players.
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>>180851809
theres no actual /xivg/ up right now though, thats why
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>>180851937
Theyre all idiots. Every job is viable unless youre trying to be the most powerful virgin on your server, in which case you have no job or life so yiu can just level them all and play whatever is 2% better in a few situations when played with extreme skill
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>>180852104
>Esuna fear
I'd leave too
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Wait a second I know job potions give you a set of shire gear but what about the job specific armor sets? Do you get those too?

Shire gear is ugly for everyone but tanks.
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So this is the new xivg?
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>>180851718
https://pastebin.com/raw/qSup89Yz
could you review to make sure I didn't fuck up the pastebin adjustments and use it in the next op? I added the mateus ls info to it
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I didn't know Koji used to be a teacher
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>>180852182
Literally every job is welcomed by players, only you idiots try to parrot speedkill comps as being the only accepted comp, and every single job in the game will clear Omega's hardest difficulty before 4chan does.
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>>180852324
Nope. You get zilch.
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>>180846833
Wow, I predicted future of thread with my post
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>>180852182
The anon you're arguing with are one of those idiots who never had to deal with not even being a chance to prove yourself, PF or otherwise. I really hate when people who have no clue what they're talking about try to correct other people.

3.0 MCH was certainly doable but fuck finding a static as one no matter how fucking good you were at toggling.
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>>180851842
>only 3 jobs are viable

the numbers from SSS for melee were all comparable.

the only one truly in the shithole is MCH.
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>>180850219
>2 SCHs
what did i miss?
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>>180852403
Oh fuck that changes everything for me.
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>>180852439
>The anon you're arguing with are one of those idiots who never had to deal with not even being a chance to prove yourself, PF or otherwise
Considering BLM was almost never taken in SCoB because of the fight design and SMN handling T7 so that the BRD didn't have to, you're still full of shit. BLM could find a static at every point in this game's life, every job can. It is literally your quality as a player that decides whether the majority of the statics in this game take you or not.
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>>180851726
You think Kenshin Shadowheart knows how to roll his CDs? Some people who don't like str accs are just shitter healers, but what a lot of us really don't like is when memes get adopted by retards who don't know how to play in the first place. There's a better chance of living through one of those (unmitigated) with fending, but lemmings will roll in there with 32k HP and get squashed, then blame the healers.

I literally had some dumbass tell me "I never had to use CDs ever before" when I told him to please use them on trash because I wasn't going to sit there and spam cures on him. Same guy dropped into deliverance and lost control of every trash pack and I ripped two doma castle bosses off of him as whm. Edgelord male au ra with spiky armor and sanic hair. That's who I don't want using 270 shit. If you know how to play, go nuts, I will keep you alive. But that's going to be a small number of people.
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I didn't know Foxclon actually speaks english
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Hyur>Roe>Elezen>Au'ra>Lala>Cats
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>>180852326
The mods are just fucking retarded and mindlessly granting the request of one autistic hall monitor who doesn't even know how boards work.
/vg/ is for recurring threads that want to keep going indefinitely. They have their own events, pastebins, guilds in the case of MMOs, and also serve as containment for attention whores/tripfags.

A thread wanting to talk about a newly released game isn't supposed to be just dumped into /vg/ just because it has a general.
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>>180852182
So when you say only 3 jobs are viable you're seriously insinuating its going to be PLD/PLD/AST/AST/SAM/SAM/SAM/SAM. Thats literally what you just said when you said only 3 jobs are viable.
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>>180846490
Reminder that there's no good way to level DPS outside of the above mentioned. No one enjoys 30min queues.
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>>180852735
I was referring to DPS jobs.
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>>180852674
>you're still full of shit.
>About PF created statics using a system of exclusion
Are you fucking kidding me right now? No whatever man. Say whatever to prove a point even if you have to lie to do it.
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>>180852182
Something by DEFINITION is viable when it can do the content. The word youre looking for it optimal.
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>>180852798
>being a chance to prove yourself, PF or otherwise
Yes, you're still full of shit, you dumbass
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>>180852553
Some clown said BLM couldn't beat even bad DPS.
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>>180852803
Except they're not viable because you can't do the content if you can't get into the content.
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>>180847402
>>180847402

Debate continues on whether or not BLM is actually good, most of the rest seems to be agreed upon within +/- 1 tier.
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>>180852923
so you proved him wrong by posting an example of a blm doing bad dps, and a samurai who presses his first attack over and over?
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>>180846879

>mesmer

stop

I don't need WvW flashbacks
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If the cloud spawn right behind Susano should the marked person go behind the tank so the cloud would shoot sideways and group doesn't have to move to the side?
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>went from 100 in login queue back to 1400
Epic
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>>180852868
The only one blowing smoke up their ass is you. I've been in FC's where we flat out didn't take certain classes before adjustments were made because we, as bad players, needed every push we got. Everybody did this. When I was benched because I was a warrior for coil I rolled PLD. You clearly don't remember that but I do.

You conveniently don't remember fucking anything that has to do with exclusion if it fits your stupid narrative. Nobody is saying you can't get a static at all you dumb fucking shit. What I am saying is that it will end up affecting the communities perception of your class which will lead to a repeat case of 3.0 where two ranged DPS were initially not even considered for A1S. Actually since I'm on 3.0 You conveniently forget AST comps as well until people woke the fuck up.

Stop blowing smoke out of your ass.
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>>180851289
You can just do tank stance for a few emity combos and reach 2nd

being offtank does not always necessarily mean you should be in DPS stance at all times
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>>180853135
you should go to the side of the susano, if the lightning cloud is paralel to susano and you, bad things will happen
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>This one time I saw a PF not recruiting a certain job so that means nobody is ever recruiting them or cares
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>I lack reading comprehension for something that's clearly spelled out
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>>180846464
MCH isn't fun in PVP compared to how they were before. I'd have prefered they tone down the burst a little but rather than make it what they have. The entire class is centered around Wildfire like 3.X PVP, and even if you dump everything into it, the skill struggles to hit for 3k (And HAHA NO CRITS)
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>>180853229
No, I clearly don't remember because I didn't play in a bad FC that actually tried to parrot compositions based on what other people said. I played BLM through all of first coil to Creator Savage and never once did I struggle to find a static. Never once did my friend who played BRD in Midas struggle to find a static. You struggled to find a static because you played in a single FC that did exclude and suddenly you think the majority exclude. No, they don't. Just as Astrologian cleared A4S probably before you did, so, too, did every other job clear despite not being meta. This thread has not once used the word "viable" correctly. WAR WASN'T viable in 2.0 because it straight up couldn't fucking tank Titan HM without outgearing the fight. No job in this game has been as poorly balanced as then, not even PLD in HW was as poorly balanced as 2.0 WAR, the last time a job straight up wasn't viable
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I like playing casters.

Which one should I be playing?
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>>180853083
Nobody on here has yet to post logs that have their RDM/BLM/SMN parse higher, so I'd say he did pretty decent for a pug guy
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>>180853593
blm or rdm
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>>180852104
Fear can't be esuna
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>>180853601
Google for two seconds, and you'll find higher parses. That 3600 is not good.
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>>180853593
SMN or RDM if you like having a support skill or two, BLM if your life goal is to be a turret and you wish to struggle for the rest of your life with finding ways to convince bosses not to AoE you or put mechanics on you.
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>>180852706
switch hyur and roe over and then youre golden

im hyur but i have to admit i want to be destroyed by a roegadyn
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>>180853053
>MCH in the cuckshed at the beginning of an expansion again for who knows how long this time

I fucking love MCH, and the complexity it offers right now is something that isn't present in a lot of classes, but this fucking sucked last time because you were basically forced to drop it, then play catch up if you wanted to play it after it was fixed.

Overheat is fucked, Flamethrower is a dumb and bad skill, 50% proc chance without ammo on your primary combo is still aids to play
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>>180853734
Why would I google what somebody did in a controlled environment. How about you provide your own results. If you're so good you should easily have your 4.2k DPS or w/e nonsense people have been flaunting about but have yet to back up
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>>180853825
>if I haven't seen it, it doesn't exist

This is how fucking stupid you are.
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>>180853736
How fun is each one of those though?
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>>180853901
>If I avoid the burden of proof it means I win
The only fucking stupid person is you dumbshit
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>>180853327
Would these be ok or strictly to the sides?
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>>180853968
>burden of proof when the proof surrounds you everywhere you go
>i can't take two seconds to do a youtube search

Boy, life really must be a struggle for you lmao.
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They need to start banning people that avoid the AFK kick.
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>>180854059
>I can't provide a single example to back up my own argument
>I call other peoples DPS bad when mine is shit
Lol nigga what are you doing
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>>180854062
Would result in too many false bans of people who had to go afk during something. No way to prove intent.
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>>180853817
>>180853817
>because you were basically forced to drop it,
Fuck no I wasn't. And I'm not dropping MCH this time. FOTM rerollers dropped MCH. I don't give a fuck if I have to put in 100% more effort to get half the results. If I can STILL get results that will push content then that's the only thing that matters.

Unless we go in some place where you can enrage O1S or w/e it's going to be called with no deaths and no mechanics fuckups but just outright not meeting DPS check, something that isn't going to happen hopefully it will still be fine
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>mfw there are no Bloodhempen Chestwraps of Fending so I can't RP as a Dotharl tank
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>>180854158
>I can't search youtube
>I post an example of a below average blm claiming hes good, tried to sneak in a 1:30 parse too

m8..............

1/10 for effort
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>>180854050
that's fine too, if it's at an angle where the thundercloud is gonna hit the wall, that just gives others more breathing room, so long as you aren't incredibly sacrificing your dps or anything to do that, keep in mind though he's going to also target you with the pushback that determines where the sea parts, so you may be forcing the group to move a bit much

if you simply go to the side and an ast or scholar shields you, pushback doesn't go through, thundercloud is fine, and you can stack under susano
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>all these lootmaster lakshmi/susano parties
>they always fill up
why would anyone willingly join a loot master party when you're likely to just get fucked over by the leader when a mount drops, or it will be "first come first serve" and when the leader gets their mount they will probably stop doing runs before anyone else gets any
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>>180852104
>6 people in the same party LITERALLY think fear/confusion can be esuna'd
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>search for xivg
>no thread, old thread just died
>make a thread
>see this thread when refreshing
stop fucking up the op
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>>180853950
Depends a lot on the person, for each fo them I can can find someone who will tell you it's the most fun job in the game, and someone who will tell you it's boring or frustrating af.
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>>180854283
>I still can't provide examples to prove a point
Lol So what is your DPS? 2k tops?
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>>180854371
the thread was moved over from /v/
also if you're going to make a thread please use this as the pastebin if you'd be so kind
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>>180854407
>i still cant google
>2.7k dps mch insulting other people

oh man im laffin
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>>180854371
retard
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Guys! Silk has BOYS in it!!! CUTE LOVABLE BOYS!!!!
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>>180853361
>>180853420
>almost full party
>1 DPS slot open
>Nice.jpg
>it's a summoner/samurai slot
Fuck these people.
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Who the fuck said shatter is good for EXP
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Will they actually bother to fix dissipation now that the entire job is fucked?
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>>180854512
>admit I died a lot
>"If I call his dps bad that'll show him"
Nigga I do more DMG on the "worst" job than you'll ever be able to put out on your best
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>>180854741
It's good in the sense that it's faster.
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>>180854741
its literally the fastest way from 60-70 if you dont have an armory bonus idiot
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>>180854741
Ok. What's the problem now?
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what server do i roll on to get the 15 days play time?
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>>180854865
Mateus
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>>180854314
I'm a healer so dps isn't a problem. I just want to be pushed so the team doesn't have to move too much, got shit earlier because I moved to the sides. Although I don't see the problem in that because the team could just go inside Susano.
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>>180854820
This is great, you're literally embarrassing yourself for me.
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>>180854741
it is fast, feels slow cause you don't get a big chunk per match, but it's legit fast as fuck if no premade for dungeons
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>>180854865
Leviathan.
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>>180854820
>Comparing parses on fights with huge time-breaks with variable ACT Encounter delays
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TRIGERRRRRRRRRREDDDDDDDDD
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>>180854865
Coeurl Mateus Goblin or Zalera

dont listen to >>180854984
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>>180854915
Nigga the only embarrassing thing is that you don't even have the ability to show better.
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>>180854910
well, the people you're with might just be dumb
>>180854903
mateus is an option
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so im sbout to charge back buying game time, a ARR msq potion and this expansion.

>play in japan, beat ARR
>move and play NA
>my legacy character has to do lvl 1 quests, even though ive beaten the white wolf and garuda ext etc
>decide to skip msq since ive done it
>No GC, No mounts, No leves, have to redo several fights to do class quests
>artifact weapon is gone, all of my retainers and their items gone, not at salvager

obviously, a bug happened, thats fine

submitted a ticket, wait 4 days
oh we cant help you, make a forum post

make a forum post
have to search through multiple forums, cant find it

your bug report was deleted because it 1.0 characters are not supported for skips.

can i have a refund then? am i unable to have a grand company

no refunds allowed
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>30 minute queue

I don't think I'll ever be able to level up a DPS.
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>>180854984
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>>180855112
I don't have to because your two parses are so fucking bad.
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>>180854820
>NIN barely beat PLD
Yo what the fuck?
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>>180854903
>>180855063
mateus it is
>have to set everything up again
ree
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>>180855286
You lack the ability to prove otherwise. Therefore your opinion is irrelevant
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This outfit is baller as fuck.
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>>180855063
What's wrong with leviathan?
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>>180854820
>sub 2000 dps ninja
did you clear with this party??
these primals are a fucking joke
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>>180855304
I've seen a SMN who must have been a bot or dcing or fucking something do worse WHM who's only damage came from, what is it, assize? "Duty completed" is a very mysterious place.
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>preorder stormblood and get a 60 day time card from friend on weekend before launch.
>out of town week of launch but "ddos" cucks everyone so it's no big deal
>get call from isp on 20th of june - brother in law torrented game of thrones and gets my service suspended for 30 days

I just wanna play guise
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>>180855314
if you want an invite to the xivg ls while you level n stuff just ask, message Yysara Paniyr
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>>180855167
Write a giant and well composed essay with paragraphs of bitching and put it on reddit
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How do you do the job specific poses?
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>>180855396
nothing, it just isnt one of the designated servers that give 15 extra days of sub that anon was asking for
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is this accurate?
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>>180855328
I don't have to prove otherwise. When you put up those kinds of numbers everyone will be laughing at you.

People parsed higher than that in speed kills in hw.
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>>180855413
Susan is so easy that you can do him if you're retarded. The only thing that's even remotely threatening is that he can and will enrage all over your ass if too many people fuck up.

Lakshmi is so easy that literally everybody in the world should be able to do her on their second attempt.
>Grab orbs
>press big button in your screen when she turns purple
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>>180855396
Nothing, don't listen to other anon, come to Levi like first anon said.
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>>180855594
>still no proof
Irrelevant post.
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>>180855569
replace mch with brd
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>>180855569
Everyone in here thinks it's their team that's shit.
Here's a little hint: You're also shit.
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What's the easiest to learn tank, with fewer buttons?
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>>180855669
You're not 100 percentile on fflogs! you dont know shit!!
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>>180855608
>tfw whenever i join susano FARM parties people still fuck up all the time on the last 10% like not moving with purple markers or killing people with clouds
lol
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Haven't played XIV for 3 years or so.

If I buy stormblood will it include heavensward?
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Guys I'm brand new, but my friend told me to boost past ARR and boost a 60 since I wanted to play RDM. However, since I wanted to try other classes, I need to find a way to buy gear for them as they level up. How are people sitting on millions? Is it just crafting classes or am I missing something?
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>>180855789
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I don't feel like sitting in queue to get on Bal, anyone want to "chill" somewhere?
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>>180855759
False. I play objectively well as healer. Never let someone die and contribute DPS as much as possible. If someone does die its due to an avoidable one shot.
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>>180855569
Oh my goodness, this is sooooooooo true!
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>>180855669
2 seconds on fflogs.

sorry to burst your little shitter bubble

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/wCAbJX63nptj1TDZ#fight=9&type=damage-done

that is 4 classes pre SB that just topped your 2.7k mch dps on sus.
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Of course I get disconnected in the middle of the cutscene after Ala Mhigo. And 1500 queue now. Holy fucking shit
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>>180855946
>objectively
there's that word again
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>>180855971
>that team composition
Pfft hahaha
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>>180855775
All tanks are easy.

PLD: Shield lob for pull, circle of scorn, flash, flash, then do your combos
WAR: Tomahawk, overpower, overpower, overpower, then do your combos

dont play drk, they're shit
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Gib
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>>180855971
>pre SB
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>>180856156
Even funnier when you realize that a 3.x mch heavily out parsed a 4.x mch.
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>>180855971
>AoE Intensive fight vs single target fight with multiple encounter time breaks
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
STOP TRIGGERING ME WITH THESE AWFUL COMPARISONS

FFLogs needs to update already so we can do accurate Susano comparisons.
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>>180855971
At least be reasonable and link A10S which is more comparable.
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/GH4RcZ9k2KXjBvAY#fight=11&type=damage-done
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Hello again /xivg/! I'm happy to announce that I have reached level 45. I was thinking of becoming a RDM at 50, currently a BLM... would you recommend it? I have seen other Red Mages and I like how their spells look, plus the whole rapier + magic catalyst style is very alluring to me. How do they do DPS wise? Is Black Mage a better DPS? This is my first time playing this game, by the way. Would appreciate some advice. Thanks you in advance, Anons!
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>>180856172
DRK is still king of dungeons and AoE.
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>>180853950
RDM makes you cast things with flashy animations all the while jumping in between to slash shit up.
BLM is quite literally you just standing but deals fuckhuge damage.
SMN is pretty boring imo.
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>>180856180
Gub!!
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Thinking about starting FFXIV but from what I've seen it looks like a generic f2p korean mmo.

What are the strengths of FFXIV and why is it so popular?
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@180856180
I'll give you one if you purr on my lap for me while wearing either a bikini or nothing

Followed by lots of lewd petting and cuddling and then carrying my litter
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>>180856570
Thx!!!
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>>180856502
They run out of MP after like 6 aoes and new blood price might as well not exist. Meanwhile pld can match it or better with spamming like 2 dozen FoF eclipses per pull.
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>>180854778
how about making it resummon the fairy automatically on buff end like demi bahamut? also keep fairy gauge while shes away + you still can accumulate fairy gauge while shes away
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>>180856301
The funniest thing is that the example was used in a completely serious fashion.
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>>180856686
I'm not a lewd cat anymore, anon. I don't do that stuff.

I'm just a memec@ of gib(You)s
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>>180856738
It's the healer version of tornado kick. But worse Because your SC is then married as well for an entire minute and a half.

If there were more ways to insta summon the little fucker it'd be great.
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cant decide

SMN, RDM, NIN, or MCH?

are they going to overhaul rhe current mch soon though? feels like it could use some smoothing out.

i am torn between the 3
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>>180856646

pls respond.
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>>180851182
>he dies 3 more times during the fight to every tank buster he doesn't mitigate
SCH here, this keep happening.
>I-it's the SCH fault he didn't shield me!
Nigger I shield every tank buster it'sn ot my faul if you can't use a goddamn CD
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@180856890

Then I guess you should start reconsidering huh?
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>>180857062
The only thing MCH will likely see are tweaks to potencies and the damage buff to overheating/wildfire. I wouldn't expect their entire kit to be overhauled. Maybe the bishop turret.
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>>180856646
>What are the strengths of FFXIV
it copies WoW pretty well sometimes
graphics/art direction is great for an mmo
MMO story that isn't complete shit

>and why is it so popular?
it's final fantasy
lots of options for gear glamour
casual friendly
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>>180856456
if you know how to manage movements properly, BLM deals more damage

if you dont, RDM
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>>180857220
>MMO story that isn't complete shit
This is a lie.
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plrease dont mean post here noboyd desrerves to be hurt
>>180856881
>>180856881
>>180856881
>>180856881
>>180856881
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>>180857173
Would you reconsider instead?
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>>180856735
2x Unleash -> Syphon strike combo (no souleater) -> repeat
Ther
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>>180857201
by overhaul i mean make ammo produce heat, give a buff icon or make guass barrell a passive

roll heat shot into something else

takes roughly 18~ GCDs to get 100 heat
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@180857392

No, I want that cat!
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>>180857356
There's already a thread.

>>180854136
>>180854136
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>>180857220

The combat looks pretty shit.
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>>180857513
>>180857513
made a new thread for (you)
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>>180857470
oh
>>
FOUR XIV THREADS? YOU DONT GET FOUR SCOOPS XIVG
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>>180857498
not gonna lie, it is garbage until you get to like level 50~60
it plays much too slow for my liking and the game would benefit from different combat but it is what it is
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>>180857408
Ammo is actually fine where it is. As is quick reload reducing 10 heat. It adds a small nuance in hitting the 90 heat sweet spot you'll need to be at for your new "mild fire". Which is achievable generally if you're not hit by a mechanic starting from your 2nd wildfire.

Hot shot likely isn't going to get rolled into anything because it's the only weapon skill pre 50 heat that gives 10 heat.

Lastly it isn't 18 GCD's. You COULD spam Hot Shot 5 times even though that's a dps loss. What you'll usually do is GB+BS at pull start. Use FT in between your GCD when it's time to WF assuming you're at the 70 heat sweet spot to use FT without a dps loss. The only thing you can't do is use FT for 6 seconds. Because that fucking thing fucking sucks. And is fucking buggy. If I could collect 1 gil for the number of fucking times it's stopped throwing and forced me to botch a wildfire I'd be a gillionaire.

Right now the mechanics are fine and almost reactive. Which takes away how lateral the gameplan was once you got ahold of it. The downside is how fucking punishing overheat feels. Never you mind the motherfucking damage, losing those abilities fucking feels like shit
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>>180855167
Just charge back at that point, get your cash for all of that and open a new account if you're still interested since they will ban yours.
Bullshit, but you might as well get the most out of it.
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Do you ever let dpscucks just sit at half hp? It's the greatest feeling watching a rdm spend time vercuring himself cause he sits in fire.
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>>180860524
>do you ever waste everybody's time
Not if I can help it
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