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>New TF2 Blogpost about Balance Changes:
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
>list of good comm. servers
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf | tf2outpost.com | backpack.tf | bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf | trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf | scrapbank.me
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing

old and busted
>>180630649
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shitpost
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>>180781941
>Nobody replying to eachother
wunderbar
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dotsy is cuuuuuute!
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daily reminder that neps are a scourge
nep posters must be purged
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2017 will bring the return of humanposting
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xth for best boy
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>>180782416
factually incorrect
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That is a fact

Archimedes is best pet
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>>180782757
die now
>>180782734
>easiest
subjective
>why
accurate hitscan that requires very little player movement, if you're bad at sniper, you will be bad at everything in the game, if you're good at any 1 (one) class, you will be good or at the very least passable at sniper
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the neps end here
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why anon
why do you hate perfection
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this is madness
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this

is

pottis *pow*

haha
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tf2
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http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=955674856
isn't this just Pyromancer's Hood and Pyromancer's Raiments
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i can't fucking play it reliably
t. guy who uses a laptop on wifi
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transgender friends 1+1
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>>180783529
since that mask for pyro in the rainy day case came out, i don't think they care about item similarities
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>>180783529
nah the chest is a 1:1 of Sengoku Scorcher
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tomislav
+75% faster spin-up
+no rev noise
-20% slower firing speed
-200% slower spin-down

would you use it
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>>180783529
i'm you but better
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this is a fun class
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>>180784327
Fuck yeah +40% faster spin up felt great so 75% would be insane. Slow down won't matter after you kill everything around you.
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there was literally nothing wrong with release tomislav
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>>180784382
holy shit they're the fucking same
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left: thrift store darth vader cosplay
right: monk
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Monk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cml6-InI2-U
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FUCK /trash/ post Soldiers
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>>180784382
Ohnmy fucking god, they didn't even bother hiding it
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>>180784973
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>>180784973
I'd fuck /trash/ :x
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>instead of discussing the game lets talk about cosmetics in a FIRST person shooter
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Cosmetics are a part of the game, you stupid sack of shit
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>>180785331
post your frags
>>180785392
this
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>>180784753
Are you blind?
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>>180785331
this
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>>180785464
shut the fuck up vipes theyre identical
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>>180784382
Hmm...
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>Are you blind?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ7_5MMboo4&feature=youtu.be&t=6s

I like the Luchadore on the Heavy. I wish it weren't his only Unusual misc, though
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>>180785612
No they aren't. The hoods only look similar, but the robe doesn't look like the scorcher at all.

>>180785331
I haven't been able to play as much as I'd like to lately due to my idyllic NEET livelihood being disrupted. This is the best I can do on such short notice.
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>>180785464
Please tell me how they're not the same set.
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>>180785781
Oh come on, I'm playing on a fucking laptop with wifi so I have to risk my computer freezing and needing to completely restart and even I did better than that
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>>180785851
First off, the hood has a lower rap portion, the sengoku set is clearly armor when that's a robe that doesn't look anything like the scorcher. Also, elf-boots. May as well call the pyromancer hood a ripoff of the hottie's hoodie.

>>180785941
I'm sorry that I'm not able to play TF2 for 14 hours a day instead of looking for a job.
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explain to me why pyro has fifty head replacements but 2 halloween-restricted shoe options
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>>180785445
>post your frags
If I wanted to brag about frags I'd play death match
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>>180786049
Because fuck you, that's why.
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>>180785781
>>180786030
they're the same you fucking mongoloid
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hello kids i am the pyro from the [BLU] team !
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>>180786148
>I am literally blind and incapable of comparing these two items
I'm going to stop giving you (You)s after this, because there is no way on this planet someone can be THIS fucking dumb.
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>>180784973
o-ok
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Hey guys your boy FUNKe here! Tell me some new cool and hip exploits so I can make a video on them!

>>180786242
does this work?
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>>180786242
this is why paint shouldn't exist, especially slate and pink
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>>180786316
yes, no equip conflicts
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i hate this fucking game
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real picture of spy after the nerfs
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what happened D:
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Yeah, this fucking game blows

Go outside and spend time with people or play another game with friends, guy
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>>180785628
>>180783529
wlep you can't deny these are the same vipes
>>180786250
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>>180786397
stop hacking faggot
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>This robe is the exact same as armour xdddd i hate vipes even though vipes didn't even make this set
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Why don't you go outside then
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I just came back home after spending all day with someone, though
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>going outside
>not becoming a jaded fuck playing vidya all day
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>>180786571
did you not look at the red mage i posted? exact same fucking thing
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>>180786571
>- Concept: Vipes
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vipes
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Damn he's ugly
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>>180786797
furries burn in hell, along with pedophiles and the communists.
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i can't believe people still talk about vipes
it's been like 3 years since the blastoff cap
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Vipes didn't even steal that hat. Also, it's like one guy who goes into an autistic ragefit whenever Vipes is involved in something.
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People will talk about anything when TF2 isn't updating. Fucking discussions about posters, food, shoes, yada yada yada. Until TF2 releases an update, you aren't getting quality discussions out of tf2g
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>>180787049
the judeo-Christian God known as YHWH / Jehovah literally made mankind with a predisposed liking to animal people (as evidenced by some of the oldest manmade sculptures and drawings) and many types of angels are described as having the heads of beasts in both canon & apocryphal works

don't tarnish the likeness of trump with your uneducated quips and don't act like you know what God thinks you retarded catholic cuck
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>>180787326
God damn it, not this again. Cavemen worshipped animals as the earliest gods because they had no idea what the fuck happened after death. They hunted and ate the animals, the animals came back every year. So obviously there must have been some super natural element and in order to appease this all-knowing animal deity, they made sacrifices to it in order to keep the animals they relied upon for sustenance coming back every year.

http://billmoyers.com/content/ep-3-joseph-campbell-and-the-power-of-myth-the-first-storytellers-audio/
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>>180787528
not an argument
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>>180785628
How is no one else pointing this out. They are exactly the same.
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official capture the flag tier list:

not bad but I mean... it's still a shitty game mode tier:
>doublecross
>landfall

glad they are gone tier:
>well
>sawmill

sometimes you need to take a break from minecraft trade servers tier:
>2fort
>turbine

(BONUS TIER) don't kid yourself, it's still fucking 2fort tier:
>2fort invasion
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>>180787648
>>180782734
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>>180787326
>i want to fuck animals/be an animal so i can fuck other animals

Nah m8, you're the type of folk who got fragged at sodom. You lost all sympathy from me when you decided that being in God's likeness wasn't good enough for ya.
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>>180787723
post more* furry porn
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there is literally nothing pornographic about lactation
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did anyone ever play a community made ctf map that isnt shit
i would also like to know how, because getting 12 players on a workshop map is already pretty impossible
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>>180787846
unless the act was performed with the intention to elicit an erotic response.
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>>180787846
https://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=1&f_manga=0&f_artistcg=0&f_gamecg=0&f_western=0&f_non-h=0&f_imageset=0&f_cosplay=0&f_asianporn=0&f_misc=0&f_search=male%3Alactation%24&f_apply=Apply+Filter
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>>180788024
dumb anime bitch spraying that shit all over except the actual bottle s m h
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>>180788024
see you in three days
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>>180788086
she's a little messy but that's what makes it fun
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>>180788024
mom didnt breastfeed you enough
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meanwhile >>180782734 is still up
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>>180788332
/tf2g/ mods are furries
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>>180784478
>More deaths than do-

Oh.
Oh! An actually gud gamer. Good job m8
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I gotchu
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>deleting manyakis but not furry garbage
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>>180781941
>>New TF2 Blogpost about Balance Changes:
>http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
Why are the dumbest Valve employees the only ones working on TF2?
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>>180787670
I really do like Landfall. The middle area makes for a good arena, and the open paths leading to the intel dont feel very chokey at all.
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what anime are you watching tonight?
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>>180788727
>New
are you retarded those were posted 5 days ago?
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>>180788824
whatever it is, i read the manga and you're all fucking plebs.
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>>180788727
The only bad change here is the Ambassador, and that is only because it doesn't limit the Spies range, it just makes it a bit more random.
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>>180788727
literally only good changes
i would tell you to go shoot yourself with the ambassador for being a disgusting spy main but youll probably miss lmao
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>>180788830
like most TF2 fans, I haven't played the game in months

also that's me quoting the OP
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ambassador fix

+no ramp up or falloff
+perfect accuracy always
+can headshot
+no cooldown between headshots
-50% damage vs. players
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>>180788951
>>180788919
I never thought I'd see the day when people would say that the BASE Jumper is OP and not be laughed at as being retarded
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>>180788912
>reading manga
eww
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>>180789087
it is though?
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>>180789087
the only people who would laugh would be those who don't know anything about comp play.
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>>180789087
base jumper is already garbage and you have no actual reason to use it unless you are completely garbage at rocket jumping
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>>180789120
animu scrubs are cancer and deserve to swing from an oak tree
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>>180789248
manga scrubs are unironically worse
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>>180789209
I'm glad the game is being designed around the 10% of people who actually play it.
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scattergun

+100% critical hit chance at long range
20% less accurate
no random critical hits
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>>180789209
>revolving your balance around the most cancerous part of the game.

Fuck off cs:go kid
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>consuming japanese media
>ever
Two wasn't enough
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>>180789330
>>180789376
Why even be concerned about the balance of the game if you only play casually? It just doesn't make sense.
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It's a brave new world of everything except stock being turned into shit so that comp players stop crying when they lose
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>>180789281
you're worse
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What if they completely removed stock weapons from the game tomorrow
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>>180789451
>why even be concerned about the balance of the game if you only play the actually fun part.
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>>180789645
who are you quoting?
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>>180789451
its ironically the comfags fault for wanting balance changes
now wanting balance changes has become normal even amongst the lowliest of skill even though it doesnt change anything for them
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trying to practice drawing medic by going by the tf2 comic designs
how does he look
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>>180789681
some retard who probably works for Valve and is ruining TF2
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>there are people who play friendly heavy in this thread right now
this new update is going to kill this general
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>>180789681
are you by any chance /actually/ retarded?
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>>180789761
Looks good, but his shoulders are a bit weak
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>>180789281
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I'm an extremely serious person who plays 10-year-old video games. I have the highest standards for my weapon balances and fully support Valve nerfing everything to the point of uselessness.
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>>180789761
His face is a tad warped in the front on image (shorter, wider, but not by much) other than that ggwp
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>>180789761
face too long
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>>180789787
>>180789839
>>180790038
>Valve chooses to balance the game around the part of the game where balance actually matters
>They do this because they want competitive TF2 to become more of a thing
>Pubtards get butthurt because Valve is giving them slightly less attention
I never thought I'd see the day. Sorry your OP weapons are slightly less OP, you'll just have to get good at the game now that you can't cleaver combo people for free.
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>>180789532
No seriously. Manga don't have proper directing. They're by default trash.

>>180790002
This old faggot made a bunch of children's movies that are all the same. He's the epitome of entry-tier. He's also a pedo to boot and responsible for Toei. One of the most shoe-string studios out there that buy up all the popular franchises then milk them for all they're worth. Nice tumblr .gif btw. Really makes me think.
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>>180790181
What will the comp players blame when they lose after everything except stock is total dogshit?

>I can't shoot the parachute man. It's not fair!!!! It's OP because it can't be that I just can't aim and learn to prioritize targets.
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>>180789928
Thank you, and I'd have to agree about the shoulder thing especially on the bottom right.

>>180790049
Thank you, I gotta work on that

>>180790083
He's based off of his comic design where his face is longer, but I think a happy medium would be good.
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>>180790181
>valve chooses to balance the game around a minority part of the game where nobody is happy with a change unless it makes an unlock irrelevent
>they do this because they want more cosmetic/skin sales from the CS;GO crowed
>comptards get butthurt because people dare question their choices
I never thought i'd see the day. Sorry the majority of people prefer to have fun in something other than 6s or highlander
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Valve 7 years ago
>We should introduce a variety of weapons with fun features and unique quirks

Valve today
>using anything except stock should feel like having nails hammered into your penis
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>>180788807
still waiting for that one map that saves the game mode

if you check out competitive CTF contest winners (where landfall reached only 9th place), it's just obvious that there are just so many other even much better maps that could be made official and why valve doesn't take advantage of this will always be a mystery to me
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Is TF2 becoming The Simpsons of video games?
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>>180790349
t. someone who only plays against free to plays

>>180790517
If you just want to sit in the corner and eat your sandwich 25 times rather than play and improve at the game, then why bother complaining about the balance choices? People who enjoy competing and improving can have more fun playing their game, and players like you will hardly notice any differences. I also don't know why you think unlocks are never used in comp.
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>>180790889
If TF2 is The Simpsons, then Overwatch is Family Guy.
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Who let the trash in?
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>>180791045
if TF2 is The Simpsons, then Overwatch is The Mindy Project
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>>180791010
>the only people who play casual are hoovies and spycrabs
I get it, i get it, you take yourself way too seriously.

>I also don't know why you think unlocks are never used in comp.
There is a select few weapons that arn't either nerfed into uselessness or banned, bud. i doubt you understand this, but enforcing meta loadouts through half hassed balancing is retarded.
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>>180791482
>nerfing overpowered weapons so that they at least have a chance to be tested in comp is "enforcing meta loadouts"
Wait wait, im really confused now. So we should keep things like the DDS and the BASE Jumper and the Crit a Cola as is, so as to shake the meta up?
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If I buy the Orange Box on an account that doesn't have TF2, will I get the Proof of Purchase?
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Stop replying to obvious bait. Easiest way to tell someone doesn't know jack shit about what he's talking about in TF2 is when he starts complaining about comp.

>>180791861
Yes.
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>>180791747
2015
>lol, Base Jumper OP, lol

2017
>Base Jumper OP
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>>180791861
Can confirm, but I had TF2 and bought the rest of the Box and still got the hat.
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seriously though, nerfing air control on base jumper is going way overboard

not to mention that this change just lowers skill ceiling for the users same as ambassador or your eternal reward (this change essentially lowers both skill floor because of adding the ability to disguise before performing first stab and skill ceiling because you have less time to get around the map while cloaked)
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I thought it was generally agreed that the base jumper was a crutch for losers who can't rocket jump like the new mantreads,, so why do you care so much?
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>>180791747
>base jumper
>overpowered
There we go with this meme again. You being shit isn't the sign of an item being OP. Base jumper is easily counterable and it's only use is as a crutch for market gardening, which is something that's also unviable literally anywhere except hightower.

or if your team consists of 2 soldiers, 2 scouts a medic and a demo. IE, the cancerous minority playstyle of tf2.
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my pet fennec works at valve

this is what they're doing to pyro

https://pastebin.com/tbzbvQWj
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>>180791920
>he's a comp player
>on the internet
>on a game that's a decade old
>he plays with F2Ps
>he takes his "game" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & skill he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he demands nerfs on weapons he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he demands nerfs on weapons he doesn't like because they disrupt his perception of himself as being good at video games
>he will never have fun
>he will never let other people have fun
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to play anything besides pocket soldier
>he will never have a girlfriend medic
>he will never have any friends
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Has Valve ever unfucked a weapon that they nerfed? It seems like the usual progression is (1) introduce weak weapon, (2) buff the shit out of it as an overreaction, (3) nerf the shit out of it as an overreaction
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>>180793075
thats what happens when you listen exclusively to casual players
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>>180792346
you know what is actual crutch for losers who can't rocket jump? gunboats

manntreads will make steering while rocket jumping way more sensitive, that's the opposite to crutch as it can lead to mistakes more often when the player isn't precise
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>>180784973
am I too late?
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Base jumper isn't overpowered, it's just the shitty 6v6 meta doesn't allow for large hitscan damage at any range farther than melee
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>>180793230
holy clipping lmao
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>>180793230
>ironic bad loadouts
lame
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>>180791278
I've never watched the mindy project, so I guess that's also true for overwatch.
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>>180792380
>no third degree rework
>sharpened volcano fragment becomes a straight upgrade to stock
I won't even bother reading the rest
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>>180793075
HIGPS has a pretty good spreadsheet on his opnions. you can cross reference that with the wiki changelog to see if it's been put right (in his vison of the game)

Of course, you'd probably have to watch his videos to see if you agree with his opinions of how the unlock is should be or is balanced.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10vqucUk3dVbNOo_vNG36Vr5UqNXCxaGhtaWM_9dVwyI/edit#gid=457538217
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>>180793348
go play highlander if you need to play as heavy 24/7, no one else enjoys the stallfest
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>>180784973
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>>180793187
>manntreads will make steering while rocket jumping way more sensitive
It's almost like the people in charge of "balancing" the weapons don't play the game...
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>>180784973
I'm not about to open up TF2 for a picture of my unoriginal Soldier loadout.
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>>180784973
>>180793353
>>180793363
that isn't my real loadout, I just discovered that the tuxxy doesn't have the right equip groups, and thought I'd share it with you fine folks. The Coif+Gibbin gear aren't too shabby on their own
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>>180793729
I just closed steam and can't be arsed, what is it
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>>180793729
OwO
What's this

Is it an mge server? Did Ryuke get together a test server for the lonely nights drift event?
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>>180793483
this is so awful that I won't even bother going into detail as to why
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the base jumper allowed people to just jump up into the skybox and spam, drifting back and forth and dropping sporadically, making them near impossible to hit from so far away. any rockets sent their way could be easily drifted around. thats why it's banned, in case people really dont understand.
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>>180793729
well this sucks
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>>180793915
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>>180793921
How about someone go sniper instead of ruining the weapon for everyone? Or just ban the weapon in competitive instead of ruining it for everyone? Or learn to fucking aim instead of ruining it for everyone?
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>>180793776
>>180793859
its a server to play in
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>>180793921
I, too, watched B4nny talk about the post.
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>>180793921
>6v6 babbies so frightened of anything challenging their circlejerk they need to nerf bad weapons into the ground instead of learning a class that can deal consistent damage to anything that isn't rooted to the ground and directly in their face
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>>180793921
>people use the BASE jumper intelligently and the enemy team doesn't adjust
THIS CANNOT STAND
NERF NOW
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Look at all these bads who only play pubs. Someone floating in the skybox raining down 40 damage rockets that are ezpz to dodge and is hard to hit is not fun to play against.
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>>180794057
because sniper can easily be shoved over and is not completely reliable
it was banned just in competitive, but valve has made the decision of making tf2 more competitive oriented
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>>180794409
>floating
>in a pub
>with 4 snipers on the enemy team
>a viable strategy
I AM A COMP PLAYER AND I HAVE VALUE
NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON IN MY LIFE, BUT I CAN LOOK DOWN ON PEOPLE WHO PLAY PUBS IN A GAME THAT'S OLDER THAN MOST OF ITS PLAYERS
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>>180794409
>calling other people bad when you can't even compensate to a gimmick stratigy
Next you'll say medics shouldn't be able to uber each other.
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>>180794728
medic class should have limit of 1
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>>180794728
No one better than me should be allowed to play the game
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>people complaining about the basejumper when the reserve shooter exists

really activates the almonds
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>>180793732
you stole my loadout
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guys the soldiers rocket launcher is 4/20 XD
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>>180795540
no u. When'd you put together yours?
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>>180795352
>thing can't be bad because THIS thing is also bad
whoa,,,
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dr buff
you do not drop ammo kits on death nor on feint
fix last damage hitsound to play when you kill a dr spy
fix spy's dropped ragdolls

this way people wont actually know if you are still alive or not and the dead ringer will actually do its job, that is fooling people into thinking you are dead
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They really need to nerf the Rocket Jumper. How is it fair that someone using it gets to jump around with full health? And then what, am I supposed to be able to shoot him? It's fucking horseshit, casual tier crutch. The Rocket Jumper should do 250 self-damage per rocket.
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>>180795781
since february 2016
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>>180795978
this
its op garbage
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>>180795812
>this thing is OP even though there is a direct counter right there for the equiping

I think you misunderstood what i was going for, senpai.
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>>180795981
damn, that's around the same time I put mine together.

MGE for it sometime in the future? You US West?
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>>180795978
real talk the sticky jumper needs some kind of downside, it's way too powerful since demo has another totally viable primary to use once he's landed. the caber itself wasn't the problem when demos used it to play whack a sniper, the problem was that they could do it for free because of the sticky jumper.
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>>180796128
>direct counter
>a shotgun shooting at the skybox for pitiful damage
??????
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>>180795567
Find me an mlg parody that highlights this and I'll give you 2 ref
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>>180796206
>people like this are allowed to play the game
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>>180795912
not dropping a fake ammo box makes it very clear when theyre using the DR rather than the watch. also the DR suffers the same issues with disguises, where people just expect them everywhere now because people use them so much. I already expect any obvious spy i kill to pop up behind me again a few seconds later. what they need to do is give it more downsides to discourage its use, because not every weapon needs to be run 24/7 and people seem to forget that. Make it a watch that you switch to occasionally, maybe even every third life, so that your opponent is actually caught off guard by you bringing it out.
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>>180796340
>demo jumps across the entire map and avoids all obstacles for free
>2 shots every class in the game except heavy then hops away to a health pack to do it all over again
>is almost untouchable the entire time he's in the air because sticky jumping makes you move retarded fast
it's irritating is all i'm saying and needs some downside.
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>>180796270
>shotgun that does mini crits on enemies that've been sent airborn
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>>180796520
It doesn't matter if you're doing minicrits, if someone goes high enough you aren't going to do shit for damage
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>>180796663
if someone's high enough that you won't be doing any damage, you can literally just take a few steps from the left or right.

I didn't realize they made all classes use a wheelchair.
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so do pub players not realize that not all banned weapons start out banned, and that their theory crafting means nothing because actual tests have already been done?
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Shh, let the pubbies have their moment.
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i didn't even realize this many people cared about the base jumper, i thought no one used it except with the air strike and that doesn't change anything about how that weapon's used.
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>>180796509
More like
>badwater basin
>demo airstickies all the way to defense spawn
>only takes fall damage
>blows up teleporter
???
>profit

Can't catch em, kill em, or defend against them without losing the point.
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>>180797062
>appeals to authority
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>>180796509
>>180797297
>gayload
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>>180797062
how about you shove those test results up your ass, professor? maybe that will help you learn how to adapt midgame instead of nerfing everything
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spycicle
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>>180798372
Leave it to the french to make it ribbed for her pleasure
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>>180798473
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>>180798473
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give scout a 1 slot grenade launcher
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>>180798473
It would melt nigh instantly, though. Unless she's frigid, in which case her pleasure doesn't matter.
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>>180798931
I once had an obscenely kinky girl and we filled a condom with water and froze it and used it as a dildo on her

It lasts a lot longer than you'd expect.
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>>180799051
what happened to her
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I tried to instal some skins but they dont show on valve nor in comunity servers
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This is a christian board, you perverts. Cease talking about lewds right this instant!
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>>180799229
You either installed them wrong, or the the community servers you went to have sv_pure to 1
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>>180799154
Even though we fucked several times a day she still wanted to fuck more than that. Like there's times that my dick is just flat out raw and I have to tell her flat out that I'll rip my dick if we keep fucking like this.

So she made the argument that if I wasn't going to fuck her every time she wanted that she should be able to fuck other people.

So we broke up because no.
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>>180799229
They won't show up on any server running sv_pure bro. Do they show up when you play alone on a server you're running?
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>>180799441
Girl had some issues, you're probably better off without her. Gonna go ahead and guess on daddy issues. It's always daddy issues.
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>>180797559
i didn't mention payload in my post. mine applies to any game mode.
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It keeps turning into r/ThatHappened more and more every day
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>going on reddit
stay there
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Hey, check out this thing I just bought, looks pretty swell doesn't it?
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>>180799468
Havent tried that, I'll test it later
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>>180800076
wow, sure does bucko!
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>>180800076
pow pow haha
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>>180800076
welcome to the strange direct hit party
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I saw a video earlier that said only 10% of players play the core game.

Is that number just people in Valve matchmaking or what? I tried to look up where he got that number from but I couldn't find anything.
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>>180800364
Players in-game at any time according to steam stats: ~45k
Players in worldwide casual at any given time: ~1k
Players in comp(last i checked was months ago, probs less now): ~200
What do you think?
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10%, my ass. There aren't 5k players daily. That shit is more like 300
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>>180800076
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>>180800173
you can't be fucking serious.

ggwp, I guess
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>>180800621
lmao, i only noticed the filename after i posted
enjoy your meme description
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>>180800364
90% of those play shitty maps like 2fort and dustbowl or even worse like orange or mincraft idle
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>>180800806
you fucking twat, does nobody read file names anymore?

Well at least it isn't some shit like Kurt Cobain's XXX or *nuzzles yur paw* :3. I thank you for that
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good night /tf2g/
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>>180802307
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>>180802307
Sleep tight.
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>>180802307
Bruh, sleep is for sniper mains
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I made coffee
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2 mercs done, 2 to go.
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>>180802725
coffee tastes like shit, drink tea.

I'm only saying this because as your mother, i love you.
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>>180802769
This looks really good, actually.
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>>180802805
>coffee tastes like shit
It's supposed to. It's to keep you awake. Not to OD on
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>>180802805
>coffee tastes like shit
When I was still a kid, I didn't like it either
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>>180795978
Two things, 1. they are meant for practice, so it would be hard to nerf them because of the controversy. 2. That would require people to know how to rocket jump good in order for it to be OP.
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*wakes up*
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>>180804569
>>>/trash/
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>>180804475
if its meant for practice then i can say it should have 20 ammo not 60, because its supposed to "simulate the real thing"
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I found just the game for this place.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/469820/
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I like coffee but i agree with anon, tea is GOAT
English Breakfast only, no weeb teas allowed
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>>180805028
i found one for the entirety of 4chan
http://store.steampowered.com/app/512060/Stay_Stay_Democratic_Peoples_Republic_of_Korea/
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>>180805281
is peppermint / spearmint a weeb tea?
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>>180805281
Earl Grey's my go-to.
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>>180805281
Anglophiles aren't better.
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i made coffee
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theres two players in my mix group that seem pretty gay-friendly/gay
i want to fugg em
>one always wants to avoid conflict and keep people from getting angry, saisdhe had a gay friend once
>other always wants to behave in "haha :DDD" or "cute :3". openly says he loves pink and hearts
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Where do I unsubscribe from internal conflicts blog?
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>>180806470
Don't fuck teammates and don't fuck co-workers.
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>>180806470
holy shit that demobabe is THICC
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>tfw all of the nerfs announced for pyro update seem like they don't go far enough
the only satisfying ones are DR and Darwin's Shield desu
>>180805281
english breafast is the only good thing the british shove down their ugly mouth
>>180798931
>she
>>180802769
this is actually good
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>>180806793
>>180803923

>registering suprise
Uh-oh
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>>180806470
>that sniper drinking what seems to be jarate
>blocking the spy's face behind him
fuck that's good
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>>180807276
>2 blue scouts who look like the same guy
that's some serious spy cosplay
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With seemingly everything getting nerfs, how likely is it that several pyro and demoman unlocks also got the nerf bat?
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best dad coming through !
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>>180807497
I'd say about 100% chance of something on those classes being nerfed.
You heard it here, guaranteed nerf to something one of those classes has.
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>>180806848
what did he mean by this?
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>>180807585
>caber nefed again
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>>180807497
demo and pyro are some of the most balanced classes imo
the nerfs i want the most right now are Reserve Shooter, and TINY Vaccinator and Direct Hit nerfs
>cap direct hit damage at 110 or so so it doesnt one-hit 125hp classes
>remove fire resistance from Vaccinator altogether, it would honestly make it more comfortable to use switching directly from bullet to explosive resistance
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>>180807497
I really hope the scorch shot gets its splash radius cut in half.
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>>180807790
>direct shit gets the lock n lulz treatment

>= +25% damage to buildings
>- -70% blast radius
>- 50% extra damage taken while rocket jumping

IM CALLING IT
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>>180807591

Well there's two main possibilities. Either this is a haonew.ru situation or it's a "shit damn you actually did something worthwhile" situation.

Neither is all that great :P

>>180807775
I really doubt that. Might be cool to have a cooldown after which you get a new caber though.
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>caber now regens w/ 30 seconds timer
>crits while bast jumping
>user takes 50% more explosive damage when active and blast jumping

PLEASE
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>>180807960
direct hit is the only rocket launcher that goes faster than stock and still gets a damage bonus
in fact it goes too fast, to the point that rocket jumps arent that good with it
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>>180808286
Do you really want an infestation of trolldiers on demo without a clue how to play the class? Because that's what you will get.
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>>180808309
I'm fairly certain the problem is the blast radius more than the speed of the projectile
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>>180808398
oh thats probably right
idk, its such a hated weapon they could probably nerf it to the ground and nobody would care

>remove mini-crits on airborne targets
its easier to hit directs since the projectile is super fast, and they give it an extra bonus for airshots
>remove damage bonus
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>>180807960
That would be ridiculously overpowered, especially considering the new mantreads.
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>>180808659
can you tell me where you got "hated weapon" and " nobody would care" from?
the direct hit is incredibly balanced seeing as how most unlocks go
soldier sacrifices all of his blast radius to delete scouts minisentries and roamers, as well as raising the skill ceiling since now you cant shoot the floor or spam chokepoints anymore
it absolutely has no reason to get nerfed
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>>180809014
>raising the skill ceiling
debatable
it reduces the skill ceiling on airshots since you barely have to predict as much as with any other rocketlauncher
it reduces the skill ceiling on rocket jumps since you simply cant rocket jump as well with it
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>>180806720
they are not teammates they are just members of the same mix group that i see every week
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>>180808145
I mean, it is in fact better than the average "post ur loadout" thing you get, and i'm happy this kind of creativity's in /tf2g/
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>>180809385
Yeah, I enjoy doing those as well, quite a lot of them only end up with lines and an accent color though.
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>tfw friends finally realizing that playing nothing but OW competitive is grinding on their souls and I might actually have fun with them in tf2 again
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sandvich nerf
if an enemy picks it up, the recharge time is reset to one minute and you are marked for death for 12 seconds
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sandvich buff
removed recharge timer, can now throw as many sandviches as you want, sandviches never despawn, -15% damage
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sandvich redesign
recharges only from dealing damage
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>>180810142
-no random critical hits
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>>180810175
best one desu
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>>180810242
woah woah what are you crazy? random crits are the only reason people would keep that equipped at all. do you want no one to use the sandvich ever?
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>>180809807

Qrorr
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>>180809829
>tfw friend that said he would never play TF2 because of the artstyle finally wants to try it
>says he wants to be a scout/spy main
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>go to market garden someone
>get air piped
>from the momentum of the pipe I get to a pyro
>I hit him and it makes the squishy melee sound
>it doesn't register
I'm going to fucking scream
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>>180811504
epic muselk gameplay
i love TROLLdiering XD
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>>180812173
No I was just having the market gardener in my back pocket, because I don't want to rely on escape plan because I feel like they might change it I figured I'd just go for it because I was low on ammo
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>>180787670
Upward genuinely is fucking based

Borneo would be up there it wasnt for all the spawn being so easy to spawnrape fro hidden angles
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>>180789062
you dont understand the problem

theyre not nerfing the ambassador cause of spiepers, but cause the hackers caught on to its ability to effectively sniper while up close, critting everyone in the area for 120 every half second in a way thats not as easily bannable as sniper
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>>180806074
i made tea
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post games that you would enjoy a lot if it wasnt for shit-tier spaghetti netcode
>For Honor
>Quake Champions
>Overwuatch
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>>180813517
GTA V

When's that single player DLC coming, ((Rockstar))?
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>>180813517
any PC fighting game ever
CSGO
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>>180813570
forgot about GTA V
Peer 2 Peer was a mistake
how is the custom online going ?
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>>180813517
r6 siege
csgo
CoD

post games that you would enjoy a lot if it wasnt for shit-tier BR's
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>this is what the battlestation of a top 10 TF2 soldier looks like
>>180813832
>shit-tier BRs
i live in the first world, far away from such creatures
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why aren't you improving your game and tackling into competitive TF2? its so fun !
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>>180813915
>i live in the first world,
i do too

on the internet nobody is safe from such creatures
>even 4chan
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>>180813659
fucking SHIT

>have to grind to get anything you want
>hackerbro gives you money
>BAD GOYIM, NOW YOUR CHARACTER'S RESET
>DO THAT AGAIN AND YOU'LL GET BANNED
>>of course you can still buy the game again :^^^)))))
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>>180814238
Because 6v6 is cancer
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3/4

Kind of want to redo engineer's HWNN frame now.
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>>180814467
wrong! its the most fun gamemode in first person shooter history
where did the soldier main touch you?
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Haven't played in a while and now going to cash out my inventory.
Do strange parts count for anything now? Steam market prices are more or less the same for listings with different parts and without then at all and marketplaces like outpost are being full jew of course.
I think attached parts used to typically add 50% of part's price to item value.
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finally got it
post your most recent achievement and how you remember you got it.
oh wait, one more thing. https://strawpoll.com/rzyx8cz
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>>180815664
Was fucking around on some custom server, this dual payload map comes up, was pretty innovative and new, I enjoyed it.

So, I'm killing spies, soldiers, and this one heavy over and over, then I see another engineer trying to set up and be a merchant of death like me, so I help him out, and that's how I unlocked it. I usually just tend to myself and ignore other engies, aside from the rare sapper removal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc-2eO8FJzk
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>>180815664
>extinguish burning players 20 times with a dispenser
was playing engi for the past week or so since a friend in HL asked me to do it
never again
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>>180815664
>haven't played MvM in ages
>fuck around on boot camp
>try upgraded airstrike
>point at giants a couple of times and jump from 0 to unlocked in one wave
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The Manmelter

Level 30 Indivisible Particle Smasher
This weapon draws instantly and holsters instantly after firing
+50% projectile speed
Does not require ammo
Projectile penetrates enemy targets
Projectile cannot be deflected
Alt-Fire: Extinguish teammates
Extinguishing teammates restores 20 health

This weapon will reload automatically when not active.

Being a device that flouts conventional scientific consensus that the molecules composing the human body must be arranged "just so", and not, for example, across a square-mile radius.
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>>180816571
>projectile penetrates enemy targets
Are you trying to make me more hated on payload maps?
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>>180815664
>Second Opinion
I have no idea how I got it and more importantly I have no idea how I haven't got it before even though I did this numerous times, including specifically attempting to get the achievement.
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How realistic is Valve removing random crits this patch going to be? Should I mail them about it? I mean it seems so odd they exist at all if they complain about DR being OP etc etc
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i hope the new pyro weapons have flavor text, i cant remeber the last time they did it for a hat or weapon.
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>>180815664
I fired a direct hit rocket at some soda fagger scout and a soldier quite literally flew out of fucking nowhere and ate my rocket
*Achievement horns*
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I like how after all these years Valve still can't do matchmaking.
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>>180816753
the most important thing about this update!

valvolvo make the bottle break again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Patch notes:

Caber doesn't explode anymore
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>>180817646
Patch notes:

Caber model doesn't explode anymore to prevent confusion to newer players
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Shottis
+20% faster draw speed
+Can draw while minigun is spun up
+20% damage bonus vs. targets with <50% max health
-34% clip size

would you use it
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I need a new HUD with a updater any tips?
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>>180817646
>caber explodes on every hit
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final
Post some of those good loadouts boys, my queue is open.
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>boys
:x
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>>180818443
>>180793643
Goin' to bed after this
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>>180818443
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>>180818545
I had heard you got that, grats man.
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>>180818443
>tfw I realize these are my loadouts
good shit good shit, looks realy nice. thanks for the effort man
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>haven't played in months
>hop on server
>2 aimbotters on enemy team
>they won't kick
>go to another server
>another aimbotter on enemy team
>they refuse to kick him
>third server
>aimbotter on my team
>try to kick
>team overwhelmingly votes no

at least they nerfed the parachute
now i won't have to worry about soldiers having as much fun
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how do i airdrop as private ryan
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how do i invincible as dentist
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>being a bigot
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>aimbotter on your team
>votekick fails
>they votekick you
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>>180820798
>aimbotter on team
>change name to the faggot
>call vote kick on self
>vote fails
>team vote kicks the hacker
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why isn't caber taunt a taunt kill? this never made sense to me

I even used to chase down new players on trade servers back in the day pretending to try to hit them with caber taunt and they always did back up
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>aimbotter on team
>make fun of them over mic
>14 yo redneck responds and calls me gay or something
>keep making fun of them, now calling them illiterate and inbred
>they leave
proof that bullying works
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AYM GONTA BLASTYA INTOO FIN GROOL
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>start prayin you one-eyed nigger
what did he mean by this?
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>>180818545
Spray sized.
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mods are sodomite enablers
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this is why dead ringer is trash

how to fix:
- remove dominations from faked mechanics, because they are always a dead giveaway
- make all unreplicated mechanics either replicated or faked (like revenge kills)
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make dead ringer a cloak and dagger reskin
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>>180821793
le epic fail
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>>180821879
what does that stuff mean
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>>180821793
>remove dominations from faked mechanics, because they are always a dead giveaway
The obvious ragdoll corpse and...
nvm >>>180821879 sums it up
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new dead ringer should drop real ammo boxes since spy can't pick them up anyway
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the dead ringer needs removed
although this is the best its been for years
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>>180821879
>dead ringer counts for eyelander heads
>it doesn't count for any other weapon
what did they mean by this
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>>180822196
the airstrike would be completely busted if it counted feigns
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>>180822763
it should as a punishment for shitty spies, like every single other bonus for weapons
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>>180822763
and the eyelander isnt?
>one of the fastest fucking things in the game
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>>180823139
it punishes too hard
>>180823167
no its not,
the eyelander requires melee hits, it punishes the spy for letting the demo get that close, if he has full heads it doesn't matter
the airstrike is ranged, and they encourage you to spam it, and spam it at range high above where a spy would reasonably be able to hit you.
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>>180823313
it may be even worse for spy if feign doesn't count as a kill for air strike, because that makes it then an obvious feign for a soldier

it would punish that spy's team the most which is fine, this is a team based game after all
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remove all 3 support classes and replace them with their team fortress classic counterparts
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>>180823601
>>180823313
what about a temporary buff as long as the spy is still cloaked? Or until he drops a new body. Shit this is so easy to handle properly and you know Valve just don't give a damn
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>>180817646
Patch notes:

Caber now heals enemies 25%
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>>180807539
>Yfw You see the red scout with bonk punch behind the girl.
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>>180823601
its a minor thing, pyro, anyone paying enough attention can notice if a spy is dead ringing, it just gives soldier the same kind of awareness your average pyro would have.
>>180823753
the game is running on a dated engine
a "fix" like that would be extremely easy to break
a lot of times spies use the dead ringer to shield themselves from damage or gain a speed boost and drop cloak very quickly
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>>180824497
>the game is running on a dated engine
I'm not sure how it's relevant. Proper code can still exist regardless of engine.
>would be easy to break
In what scenario would a temp buff that resets as soon as a spy either decloaks or triggers another body to drop (whether by another DR or actual death) would be easy to 'break'? it's simple code stuff.
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>>180821879
>Replicated mechanics
obviously all of this is good

>Kill feed for enemy team
this is good

>Dominations
shit, because those seem to pop up randomly even if you haven't touched that player before - fix: don't fake this or make it so it pops up only if you've killed that player before 3 times like an actual domination would

>Medium ammo box (does not provide ammo or metal when picked up)
what this >>180822007 anon said

>Death state on scoreboard (does not last as long as a true death)
one of the biggest giveaways but I'm not sure how to fix this, best you can do is make the spy be marked as killed as long as he's cloaked which is how this works right now I think

>The crit-boost of the Killing Gloves of Boxing
>The health gain from the Powerjack, Claidheamh Mòr, Warrior's Spirit and Half-Zatoichi
>The replenish of the Tide Turner's charge meter after killing the Spy with a melee weapon
>The speed boost of the Baby Face's Blaster
>The kill count of the Air Strike
>Sentry Gun kill/assist count (and therefore Revenge Crits for the Frontier Justice)
need to be replicated as a punishment for stupidity of incompetent spies

>The FISH KILL! and ARM KILL! notices of the Holy Mackerel and Unarmed Combat, respectively
this is how players look for dead ringers, which makes those weapons straight upgrades to stock bat pretty much, so this needs to be fixed

>The health pack drop of the Candy Cane
this is already replicated in medieval, so this should be as well

>The penetrating shot kill icon and sound effect after killing another player through the Spy with the Machina and Shooting Star
sounds like an obnoxious bug that needs to be fixed

>The Australium corpse created by the Saxxy, Golden Wrench, or Golden Frying Pan
this one is just a huge giveaway that doesn't require you to even look at hud, basically breaks DR

>Deathcam location (players recently killed by the Spy will see the camera focus on the real Spy, not the fake death)
shame on valve really
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>>180821879
>>180824862
>Final hitsounds
>Revenge kills
>Exorcism (halloween spell)
those are very easy to fix, revenge kills need just to be faked

>Players' personal kill count on the scoreboard
>Player count in Arena
>Dueling scores
>Strange weapon statistics
those can be faked and then go back to real state after spy decloaks
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Are there any decent comp TF2 youtubers that still make videos?
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>>180825396
>those can be faked and then go back to real state after spy decloaks
This is how they should fix all of them aside from maybe giving crits to the first blood in arena (is that still a thing? which if it is should be removed entirely) and while we're at it they should make koth versions of all arena maps because who plays arena?
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>>180825548
nope since tagg stopped playing
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>Wanting to remove simple ways to check if a crutch ringer spy is actually dead
What is wrong with you people? Why do you want to punish people who are actually aware enough to check the scoreboard?
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>>180825620
but if a number raises on your hud and then goes back down then the players can be 100% sure it was a feign death, this is bad

arena isn't played only because it isn't in casual matchmaking, people play hydro nowadays after all
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>>180825752
that doesn't make you smart, because everyone does that shit
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>>180825865
>then the players can be 100% sure it was a feign death, this is bad
This can be solved by keeping it until the ragdoll disappears from the ground. (which is done upon the re-appearance of a ragdoll so the number in practice would never go up again until the actual death of the spy or until another feign). Either way I think arena is a failed experiment

>arena isn't played only because it isn't in casual matchmaking
It was hardly ever played before because koth is basically arena but with respawning. It had some nice maps though that I wish to play more but personally I hated waiting.
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>>180825623
>tagg
>anything but shit
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>>180825956
I didn't say anything about being smart, I said it's about having decent gamesense, which is sorely lacking on pubs. Spy is a class that capitalizes on your team's lack of gamesense, so making the little things that give DR spies away that also reward gamesense not a thing anymore would punish having awareness against a class that works entirely on punishing your team for not having any. Which is why the DR has both such a loud decloak and doesn't show the spy as actually being dead in the scoreboard. They're both things the average pubbie misses unless the DR spy is being really fucking bad.
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>>180826076
>literally carried bant 'gr4nny' bincent through several seasons
>bad
ok kid
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Are keys bought from the store immediately tradable?
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Nah, week long cool down
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>>180826619
No

Ones bought off third party websites/other people are though.
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>>180826069
keeping all the numbers and mechanics up until the spy dies is a nice idea imo

I miss arena, because having one life in a match forced from players much different playstyles than what you usually see in different modes since everyone wanted to survive as long as possible, first blood was fun as fuck and greatly rewarded risk and final standoffs were often tense even just to watch if the players were good, also there was not a single map as bad as like harvest or something
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>>180826673
>>180826690
Fucking gay. Thanks for info.
>buying stuff from your own store comes with restrictions
>buying from third parties and risking getting scammed is perfectly fine
>>
No worries about scams if you buy from trustworthy people

Instead of $2.49 a Key, how about you buy mine $2 a piece?
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I would genuinely honestly rather buy from Viva than the kike, tbqh. $2 a key is also a good deal.
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>>180826778
I still remember battling 3 blu scouts head-on with my blutsauger on arena_well. Good times.
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viva is a kike though
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how do you make the liberty launcher good
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>cut your health in half to get to the point 3 seconds faster
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>>180829091
Bigger blast radius and less damage fall off
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>>180825752
There are like a million ways to do that already.

Just check the ammo pack
Change the score board thing.
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>get a 25 killstreak off of 1 dead ringer spy and a few f2p scraps
if anything needs to be changed about the dead ringer's feign, it's this
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Post low key cosplays
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>>180829706
>There are a million ways to do that
>Only lists one
Also ammo box disappears when one(1) idiot walks over it. There's too little communication in pubs to rely on some idiots not realizing his ammo counter doesn't go up when walking over an ammo pack after a DR spy is killed.

>>180829789
Seriously.
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>>180829789
why? no one cares about killstreaks
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>>180829848
I don't know who low key is but you don't look like him
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>>180829879
t. bad that cant get killstreaks
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>>180829879
t. poor that can't afford killstreaks
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>>180829898
It wasn't a proper noun.

>>180829879
t. bad who hates making money
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>>180829945
>>180829973
they mean literally nothing, I always laugh when I'm smurfing and the team of this one guy who gets a huge killstreak still loses because that one player who could save them was busy deathmatching instead
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>>180830014
I don't know if you're a nigger, stupid, or a stupid nigger but that was about killstreaks not killstreakers.
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>>180830138
the best part of killstreaks is a the end of the round when your name shows up twice, as the topscore and as the guy who killed 20 people in a row
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>>180830274
Gotta have killstreaks active to get a killstreak, and only one way for that to happen.
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>>180830442
you don't show up if you lose nerd lmfao
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>>180830523
I carry too hard to lose 8)
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Here
-gru drops max health to 100
+gain +60% move speed for one second
+after 3 seconds the health resets even if equipped
-after 3 seconds max hp drain starts
+you can revert this by switching to and from the gloves to drop your max hp to 100 again and waiting 3 secs for Regan

?
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>>180830791
I should add that it only takes 3 seconds for your health to regen
Maybe have the regen stop if you get hit
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why are they trying to make the eviction notice a gru-lite
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>>180831059
It's not gru lite it's 100% better gru.

You trade 100 hp for .5 seconds to the point. You also don't have the gru dumb accelerated to loss and eviction notice has the possibility to hit someone to go even faster.

Eviction is way better now and has been too
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>>180818443
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Deadringer fix
>cloak duration reduced to 5.5 seconds total
>can still replenish cloak from ammo boxes
>slower recharge rate
Spycicle fix
>no cloak replenish from ammo boxes when it's melted away and recovering
>recovery time increased to 20 seconds
So DR only have means of to be used defensively. Not even picking up large ammo boxes will refill your cloak until cicle is recovered fully.
What if they keep uncloaking ontop of metal bits without using cicle? Just harass them, 5.5 seconds cloak duration will not be hard to catch

>>180829091
Regarding the set, it's best utilized via air juggles. Damage loss and increased mag size suggests that it should be kept reloaded at all costs.
Airborne shots and juggles covered by DH, RS and Air Strike, attack speed is the duty of Beggar's and Air Strike again also they got penalized for it.
That leaves only "slightly increased reload speed when emptied" so it uniterruptibly loads first 2 shots faster compared to stock RL (0.92s).
So that allows player to take measures of trying to burst damage with LL by extending clip size and recover faster compared to stock RL.
Fiddling with general reload duration will break the weapon imo.
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>>180831698
there are like 3 shirt miscs that would have fit your set better
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>>180818443
>180818443
Oh here is my demo good sir >>180832701
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Can we fix the YER with what's actually needed? a fucking speedboost. between razorback'd snipers and soldiers/heavies to pick from I'd rather try and kill the sniper than walk around as a non-rocketjumping/non-gru equipped heavy
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>>180832790
Use the big earner + DR
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>>180831804
>fix
>do nothing to fix the problem, and encourage it further
yeah no, spy being borderline invulnerable around ammo packs is not something that should exist
it was idiotic from the beginning and it finally got a nerf
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>>180832853
>use a different knife
Well no shit anon. That won't fix the YER though.
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>>180829091
remove the increased rocket speed
if they want to make it a more combative rocket jumper, then don't fuck with the mechanics
5 shots? sure thats a cool rollout
40% increased rocket speed is more of a penalty than the damage reduction
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>>180832790
>+YER can penetrate razorback
>-lose 25% health upon backstabbing razorback
boom fixed
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>>180833023
>a knife that counters an item specifically made to stop knives
you're as retarded as the guy that thought the darwin's needed to counter flares
you're hired
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>>180833023
>+YER can penetrate razorback
This would literally only be a counter to overhealed razorback snipers. Which is a feature that should be nerfed further than just leaving it up to a spy equipping worst knife. Any normal razorback sniper is already dead in 2-3 shots by any gun. Just my 2 cents
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>stab someones back
>crit sound
>40 damage

>spy stabs my face
>center of fov
>backstab

Seriously fuck this shitty broken class I'm glad they'll always be bottom tier.
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>>180833205
the absolute worst is a spy who's under your cross hair backstabbing you
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>>180832790
Give yer infinite cloak.

You know you want that.
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>>180833272
No what's worse is hitting the spy and in the same millisecond he backstabs you.
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>>180833150
It's a counter to the normal knife, where the only difference is that spy can't kill sniper just quite as swiftly.
A YER user is forced out of his painstakingly acquired disguise, with no way of regaining it, which I find unfair.

Feel free to opt a better solution, this is what I came up with.
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>>180833398
its what i meant
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>>180833454
>gimmick knife loses to counter item
geeeeeee
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>>180833471
No but hitting them is the game registering they're in front of you.
That is absolute horse cock.
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>>180833301
then C&D is useless.
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>>180833454
How about... you don't backstab them?
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>>180833558
what do you mean no? you stated what i meant mang
i love horsecock
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>>180833607
>c and d has infinite cloak

I don't think you understand
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>>180833674
Crosshairs is your view, but if the server recognizes that's a whole nother story

More of a horse ass guy but hey
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>>180833538
I don't think you can put it so simply.

The YER is a cool item which encourages spy to play as the sneaky cunt that he was /meant/ to be, rather than whatever cheese strat is cool this week.
Sniper shouldn't be allowed to shut that down just by equipping a slab of wood.

Like I said before, a normal spy would lose his disguise either way, so the only difference the razorback makes is that he kills slightly more slowly- the YER is countered twice as hard even though it absolutely didn't need a counter
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>yer now silently removes the razorback
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>>180833738
I'm saying there would be no incentive to using the C&D then.
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>>180833935
fucking use your gun damn
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>>180834000
Why they would just be the same then.
You could use either
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>>180834049
AND THEN YOU'RE LEFT IN ENEMY TERRITORY WITHOUT DISGUISE
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>>180833935
>Sniper shouldn't be allowed to shut that down just by equipping a slab of wood.
Why not? The razorback's only issue in a 1v1 against a spy is if the sniper is overhealed and he takes more than 3 shots to go down. It takes at least 2 shots at close range for the sniper to turn around. It takes a third to kill the sniper. Overhealed snipers are an issue in competitive which is why the razorback is banned.

>>180834084
No, the YER with infinite cloak would be much better.
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>>180834134
>>180834132
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>team Wales are the friends of the admins and got seeded in the easiest group possible by the pretext that they were a top 16 seed team
>Because of this one of Finland/Netherlands/Norway will have to go, just like Portugal, Israel and Scotland (all better than Wales)
>Even with all of this Wales manages to lose against fucking Hungary and doesn't reach the round of 16
Blame admins for Hungary in the round of 16
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>>180834263
yeah, just use your cloak to get another stab like you did the first time with the YER. You're going to miss stabs all the time.
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>>180834354
but the whole point of the YER is to get an unbroken chain of stabs once you're past that first hurdle

This like having the eyelander's killstreak reset if you fire your primary
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>>180834308
By the looks the competition has sunken very low. Russia is probably going to be in the semifinals and they're a high team.
At least we saw good games thanks to the high seed group being introduced
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>>180833205
but anonnnnnn that one dipshit a few threads back "proved" that facestabs dont exist and you just need to get gud

add back the backstab radius nerf
plz volvo
PLZ
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>>180834852
>once you're past that first hurdle
But stabbing any slower class is literally going to make you walk slower thus breaking the chain early in those situations is preferable. Also. No one is going to get fooled by a YER disguise but sentries.
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>>180834928
It proved that facestabs happen as often as failed legitimate stabs with the 180 radius, and now even rarer (that's just technically, since spies can use this knowledge to their advantage and le matador everyone)
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>>180835060
im still searching for that video of that guy playing spy on turbine on 600 artificial ping and moonwalking into enemies for "skilled" facestabs
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>>180835181
Well anyone on Turbine deserves everything they're getting if I'm being off-topic
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>+30% push force against self and enemies

this makes popping enemies in the air easier in order to pair with the reserve shooter and you can rocket jump farther, also pairing it well with the market gardener
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>>180834308
Throw out Hungary, let Norway, Finland and Netherlands all go to playoffs. I fixed it.
I don't want to play tiebreakers damn it
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>>180835959
if only it could be used with the detonator/scorch shot
>>
small detonator buff
+25 faster switch speed while det jumping
now you can pull sick combos easier
>>
give pyro the pain train
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>>180838134
Give everyone the pain train.
>>
Give me the pain train.
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>steam daily reward thing
>get an achievement
>try for 2+ hours to get a tf2 achievement
>realize it's impossible
>start up dishonored 2 and kill the guy to get it
I swear to got some of that shit is downright impossible
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>>180838409
>have 100% in isaac, terraria, enter the gungeon
>tf2 can't even fit on this laptop
>play civ for 5 hours because I've never finished a game as venice
>just to get an achievement for some meaningless sticker board
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>>180838409
i did the achievement for getting 2 dominations while wearing pyrovision goggles. realised that i never actually tried and now i know that they're garbage .
getting the achivement was piss easy though.
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>>180838618
>>180838409
>boot up tf2
>join server
>press p
>jdghkjdbhgjk
>save

>get cheevo for replay

why does valve have a cheevo for replays if replays are disabled on valve servers?
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>>180838916
>not already having the replay achievement
new
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>>180838916
I dare you to find me an achivement on this list that doesn't require several friend or team coordination.
Protip: the sniper jarate 5 enemies in 1 round is bugged, it's get 5 jarate assist in one life
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Why is spawn camping so fun?
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>>180836068
Who you
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>>180839557
rendering a replay into a movie
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>>180839557
>Not having world traveller
>Not having group health
>Not having medical breakthrough
>No relentless offense
>He can't play heavy on CTF
>Apparently he can't play heavy at all
>He doesn't know how to get over the trains
You know what, I'm not going through this entire list, git gud.
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>>180839557
>tfw got group health cheevo by complete random inacasual when everyone randomly went uberchain medic

also
>crime and punishment
>jarate chop
>mass hysteria
>frags to riches
>hack of all trades
>german engineering
>sly voltage
>hard reset


fucking
>shell extention
WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE THIS
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>>180839713
>world traveler
it would mean playing on 2fort and hydro
>group health
requires 3 medics in a pub
>medical breakt.
requires healing a competent demoman, and also 2+ engies on the other team
>relentless offense
hydro again
I've spent the last 2 hours playing heavy on doublecross, throwing sandviches to the other team.
I only managed to get 1 guy because, as usual, no one manages to get the intel because 3+ engies

>>180839931
>crime and punishment
see above
>jarate chop
that one means jarate and kill 3 people with the melee with a single jar, not in a life or round
>mass hysteria
have absolutely no idea why i don't have that
it's not like i have a choice about it
>frag ...
MvM
>german ...
MvM
>sly ..
playing spy on MvM
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>>180840484
>not playing hydro at least once just to see what it's all about
>pretending you've never played 2fort
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>>180839557
>not having specialist
kill yourself
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>>180839643
Yelo. I pop back here every now and then.

>>180839557
Most of these are things that happen by chance or over time, so yeah you're better off booting up a different game to get an easy achievement.
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>>180840484
I got group health accidentally during first 2 hours smurfing as medic in pubs, you have literally no excuse

also you have never played 2fort or hydro? how new are you?
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>>180840484
>Jarate Chop
>Use your Kukri to kill 3 enemies doused in your Jarate.
>Difficulty: Hard
>How to obtain: In a single life, you must use any melee weapon to kill three players that you doused with Jarate. Your victims do not all have to be doused with the same jar of Jarate.


>Your victims do not all have to be doused with the same jar of Jarate.

its almost like your retarded

pic related, its you
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>>180840623
>pretending you've never played 2fort
I've tried it today for like the third time in my life.
I've had a literal 7 years old on mic, a mic spammer and a guy on the other team who said peasant unironically every other word and making excuses for EVERY SINGLE ONE of his deaths.
like, he complained because i jumped him as demo while he was shooting at my team and accused me of using a decoy.
He also complained about soldiers, while playing soldier and when confronted about it he said it was to "make a point" of how braindead soldier is.

>>180840915
>3156 hours on record
yeah, probably not gonna happen to me

>>180840915
medic is also boring as shit unless you have a bf to stomp with.
2fort is a prime example of how NOT to design a map in any game in the entire existence of the fucking genre
i've literally deleted the 2fort bsp map from my folder, that's how bad i don't like that map

>>180840968
uh, i tried to go for that and i swear to god i got 3 in one life.
Maybe one of those was a DR spy and it didn't count?
I'll try to go for it later
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>they don't have mutually air-sured-destruction
how bad can you get
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i should craft this?
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>>180841295
craft it, raffle it, and send me the only raffle link
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>>180841295
>not professional
nope
:^)
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>>180841217
>requires a guy in a pub to be able to rocketjump
maybe if i go hightower
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When the fuck does the store roll over to "tomorrow" I want my card pennies
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>>180841361
we could trade it
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>>180840484
>Throwing sandviches to the other team
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>180841574
id/exp-vertigo
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>>180841553
10 AM PST
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IT'S FUCKING BEEN JUNE 26TH FOR 12 HOURS LEMME DO MY STUPID QUESTS
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>>180842007
>tfw pacific time
>>
This must be your first Steam event.
>>
So who was the dude who needed Keys through Paypal? Add me up on Steam
id/BasedViva

I'll hit you up after I get outta work
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ITS BEEN JUNE 26TH FOR 12 HOURS LET THE UPDATE COME OUT
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>>180841710
trying to let them take the fucking intel so i could kill them
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I got a cute boy
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https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/879369032947847168

IT'S BEEN JUNE FOR TOO LONG NOW PLEASE LET IT BE SEPTEMBER 26ST ALREADY
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>>180839557
>not having quick hook
nigger just rocket jump over the trains and kill someone
>>
That's literally not TF2
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>>180842965
What the fuck is going on with his everything?

>180843059
Just get a fucking controller and emulate them, you fucking mong.

>>180843084
Quick Hook is scout only, isn't it?
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>>180839557
how the HECK do you NOT have world traveler??????
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>>180843059
>paying for roms
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>>180843173
Please be patient with him he has the downs
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>>180843173
He's supposed to be linking arms with Mr. Foster
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>>180840484
>being so elitist that you wont even play a certain map or game mode to get an easy achievement
>>
I'll pay double if I can't get it online ASAP as possible or stay out in lines. That's a must have right there

You know what was a must have ages ago? This fucking Team Fortress 2 update. It's beyond late now, and everyone is leaving. That number will dip to 20k daily with only 200 people playing the actual game instead of idling and shit. Way to go, Valve
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>>180812686
borneo is way too easy to defend with sentries that aren't even in good spots
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>>180832790
But... YER will be fixed according to the latest patch notes.
In case you don't see what I see in YER's potential with CnD it's fine; go use another knife.
You can effectively exhaust CnD when you change team disguise and stick to team colored walls.
You never have to limit yourself with its 6.6s cloak duration but map layout, new YER changes made to promote this sort of gameplay
>>
I actually hope they release update even as late as october if that means they will fix as much as possible with the game
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>>180843438
>playing shit maps just to get png to attack to an album
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>>180840702
I remember you now, you're the faggot that played in the iron /vg/ team and had the least weeb avatar
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>>180844508
>not doing this
fuck off casual
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Post em
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>>180832087
But I like the Hunter Heavy
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>when spy disguised as scout is trying to facestab you
fucking shitters
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How hard are they going to nerf uber saw?
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>>180845958
the answer is simple: they aren't
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>>180846309
but with the coming buff for vita saw
uber saw is still much better choice
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post sticker showcases
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>>180847318
I have no idea what even half the video game references are in mine.
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>>180847318
um
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>>180844662
Ho! That's me alright!
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>>180838134
make the pain train ignitable by friendly pyros and deal burning crit damage like the huntsman
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>>180815985
i didnt even know that was an achievement, then again i got it 6 years ago just from normal engi play

finally got the engi taunt kill on someone who was coming out of uber never tried to farm it before
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180842965
Me on the left
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>>180815664
It was one of those ezpz rounds of Turdbine where no one on the enemy team goes engineer.
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I thought australian shitposting was a 4chan thing desu

Christ I can't imagine what it must be like living there
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>>180851672
I have a few friends in Victoria. Account to then it's just like any other place. Except the dried up old faggot in parliment and the various ministries don't have a sense of humor/think seeing drugs/violence in a video game will turn every 8 year old into a sociopathic kingpin
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>>180851672
Why are you reading SPUF?
>>
>go on achievement server
>!givemeall
>100% achievements complete
checkmate athiests
>>
>tfw none of my friends play TF2 so my "Steam Friends" achievements are basically locked out
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>>180852345
play with tf2gs
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>>180852227
waiting for teammates to load in l4d2
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>>180852345
just ask someone here to assist you
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>tfw want a headless horsemann axe
help
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>>180852772
craft one then. dont tell me you crafted an ugly skull
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>>180852840
i wasted my metal back in ye olde 2011 or something, and it was on a voodoo juju
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>>180852938
>hats over weapons
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>>180852772
get one of those fancy tradable ones
just under 3 keys
>>
>already have the headtaker
>still have a hounted scrap

should i just craft the shitty hat or what
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>want an unusual
>spent all my money on the only VHS copy of The Day the Clown Cried
help
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>>180853308
can i purchase your headtaker (:3c
and no, the hat aged like milk, it looks horrible especially since valve basically made better versions of it now.
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>>180853425
idk if you can trade them
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>>180853316
make copies and sell them for 100$ each
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post enginerds
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the art for the trading cards is pretty neat
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>>180853790
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>>180853790
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>>180853991
I'm not going to post all of them
http://imgur.com/a/mnlYq
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>>180854290
Why did we never get a map based around that hospital
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>>180854373
Indoor maps suck donkey balls.
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>>180854436
I didnt say IN the hospital
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>>180854373
because that's badwater basin mate, except the blu spawn is the hospital.
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>>180853790
>wrangle a mini sentry instead of shotgun spamming the fucker
>but let's pair it with the weakest shotty per shot too
Really? I'm no expert on Engineer but I can say, that's some weaksauce loadout on weapons.
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>>180854487
badwater blu spawn is literally just a hole in a rock
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>>180854664
no shit sherlock, ever considered badwater empty wasteland which was supposed to have gravel to mine?
like almost every tf2 map set in rocky regions?
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>>180854652
It's basically a long range combat Engie loadout. The shotgun's projectiles can shoot very far and the wrangler gives your mini more range and defense. You can also heal your mini, which surprises most opponents and nets easy kills. You can also play as a more supportive Engie by backing up another Engie's level 3 with your mini and provide healing for his buildings with your shotgun. It's a surprisingly good loadout.
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>>180853316
Capitalism was a mistake
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>mfw Gabe has done nothing but shitpost lol Half Life 3 amirite for the last few months
I'm resigned to the fact that I will probably die before I ever get to play Half Life 3 now.

Well at least they're finally going to nerf scout.
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>>180853316
>that image
if it wasn't all about cocks&balls i could have actually fapped to the artstyle
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>>180847318
Possibly one of the most retarded Summer Steam Events every to grace the cones and rods many an observer. It's like something they had their in house slave interns whip up at the last minute
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>>180855575
i do like me some cock and balls, whos the artist
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>>180856446
he could have avoided that whole battle by pushing him out of the window, instead we get a pyro main """"battle""""
>>
Valve need to make new crates with old stranges.

I would love more stranges for engineer but all his good primaries are a like a key and the gunslinger is 17 keys, its a joke. I'm just stuck with my strange Southern Hospitality.
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>>180856446
shouldve had the shotgun
>>
t. wanderer
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>>180856446
>they don't know that flamethrower duels are decided entirely by connection
Some autist analyzed everything really well on etf2l forums
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>>180856751
They did that with a lot of desirable weapons a while back, but from now on I doubt we'll get anything but cases.
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give me stats
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>>180857045
+ nothing
- nothing
it's stock
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>>180857045
+works well with pirate loadouts
-can't be strange
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>on deathmatch hightower
>some guy is dominating you
>large team inbalance
>only ever see the dude when low or surrounded by enemies
>can't kill them
>"lol noob"
>they leave the game
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>>180857045
Replaces your smoke particle effects with bubble particle effects
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>>180856446
what a skillfull pyro gameplay!
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>>180856935
That clip is older that the flamethrower mojo video. Check those scouts' health.
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>>180857045
+Your enemies will think you're making peace, right up until the terrifying moment that their hand is very seriously cut! Here's the trick: It's a broken bottle!
-not actually broken
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>>180857202
>>180857241
>>180857254
>>180857442
youre fired
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>>180819039
Ey, thanks

>>180821512
>Animated
Hot damn, this looks great, thank you so much!
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>>180829848
Not for any nation, not for honor
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>>180839557
>Doesn't have RELENTLESS OFFENSE already
>half of the other achievements are unlockable if you aren't a dumb dummy
lmao
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>>180853790
>wrangler and mini sentry
for what purpose?
>>
Sharpened volcano fragment

+On hit target ally gains flame ammo for 25% rounded up of their max ammo
-uses 10% of the pyros primary weapon ammo
-no random critical hits
+this works on sentries too
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>>180841295
;)
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>>180857045
+on taunt gain 50 health
-+30% projectiles spread for 15 seconds
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>>180858932
>this works on sentries too
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>>180858932
I don't like it.
You shouldn't be lit on fire unless you're fighting a pyro, and you don't have any indicator whether your opponent has flame ammo or not.
It's also straight up stupid when used on a sniper.
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>>180858903
It gives the mini sentry a huge 66% increase in defense, more range, allows manual control of its shots, synergizes well with the rescue ranger, and is unexpected by most players.
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>>180860000
>It's also straight up stupid when used on a sniper.

you mean stupid good or stupid bad?
because I always wanted flame ammo for sniper and I figured this would be the way to implement it.
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>>180857045
-50% damage
+bleed to enemies
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>>180860024
>unexpected
lolno
>synergizes with the rescue ranger
1) lolno 2) why the fuck do you need the ranger in the first place?
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>>180860000
>You shouldn't be lit on fire unless you're fighting a pyro

>Huntsman
>huolong
>cowmangler

And its the pyros doing anyways.
Really though afterburn works on every other class better than it does on the pyro.
>>
>>180860278
Agreed, why would anyone need the rescue ranger for mini sentries? The rescue ranger is meant to save your sentry, why save a mini sentry if they are so cheap and quickly built?
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>>180860278
1.) Nobody expects a wrangled mini.
2.) Ranger provides more range damage and heals your mini, making it yet tankier.
>>180860480
Again, everyone expects a pesky mini to die fast, so by healing and shielding it you are basically doubling its health pool. It looks bad on paper, but in game it is one hell of a loadout, trust me.
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>>180860134
Stupid good, stupid bad balance.
A quick headshot by a sniper deals 150 damage, you know that it'll deal 150 damage, so as a demoman, or someone with a buff, you're -kinda- safe.
Suddenly a quick headshot deals 150 damage, followed by afterburn. It's the kind of thing that sounds "fun" but it's honestly a terrible idea, balance wise.
It's also a bad design since it forces a pyro to walk around and hit his teammates instead of actively doing anything for his team.

>>180860423
The huo and Cowmangler at least have warning signs that you'll be lit on fire, but yeah.

>>180860738
Better combo: use Frontier Justice, pick off people and get assists with your wrangler, go ham afterwards with crits.
>>
What weapons will you guys stop using after the balance changes go through in their current state?
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>>180860480
>The rescue ranger is meant to save your sentry
It's meant to heal the sentry from a distance, that's what makes it OP
The saving part is usually not even used in a match or used once or twice, and when it's used it doesn't change much.
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>>180860987
Eviction Notice
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>>180860987
none because i dont use shit weapons in the first place
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>>180860738
>Nobody expects a wrangled mini
Everyone does
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>>180860987
I don't use crutches.

>>180861140
I've only seen it like 2~3 times on pubs and every time it was literally Satan until the guy on my team started using it and was absolute garb.
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>>180860987
I'll stop using the dds whenever I feel like running the classic, that's about it

let me ask the reverse question, what weapons are you all planning on using after the changes? the new panic attack seems interesting and I bought a strange one
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>>180860738
thats dumb, the whole reason minisentries die so much is that they're the primary target.
They don't deal enough damage to be effective with the wrangler its better to use them as target dummies and shotgun the guy thats shooting it.

>>180860887
>It's also a bad design since it forces a pyro to walk around and hit his teammates instead of actively doing anything for his team.

Thats probably the best place for the pyro to be, right next to his team to deflect projectiles and deter anyone from getting too close

and snipers would only get one shot with fire. pretty much like a hunstman flame arrow, which is fun as fuck to use.
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>>180860987
Eviction Notice.
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>>180861443
>>180861057
Me too, it will also be a pain in the ass to sell these when the changes arrive. R.I.P Eviction Notice.
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>>180860987
Eviction and GRU are probably the two worst weapons in the entire game now.
so those. which is funny because the eviction notice got off way better than GRU.

maybe the sandman and cleaver combo.
will never use rescue ranger on offense.

basically anything they nerfed, everything got hit hard as fuck this update.

>>180861379
I really want to see if the YER is good now, half cloak sounds awful though.
mantreads second, that bunny hopping shit is insane.
>>
>valve nerfs eviction notice and GRU
>people use those weapons because they want to get to the front lines faster
>not because they think the 3 seconds matter but that they want to play more
>valve is actively making it harder to play their game

GJ robin
>>
Would it be a good choice to go back to TF2 now? When is the new update coming out?
>>
>>180861693
>Eviction and GRU
one of them is going to be used anyway, especially with the fists nerf
They'll just calculate for how long you can keep them out to not get to the mid injured, it's a small speed boost but still is a speed boost
>>
>>180861983
July probably
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>>180861983
No, maybe if you're from a backwater european country a month ago I would've said yes so you can dick around in the nations cup
Probably never, it's a cliffhanger
>>
>Eviction Notice and GRU
>Nerfs
Wot?
>>
>>180857601
funny way to spell hired

>>180860987
i don't know if any
at most i'm going to use some weapons i never used like the panic attack or the pocket pistol
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>>180862174
>nations cup

Wut
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>>180861983
I went back to TF2. I was looking for a fun shooter and it was right there beside me.

Played OW but that was too shallow.
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what did he mean by this
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>>180862258
http://etf2l.org/highlander-nations-cup-5-tables/
I think if you're from Slovenia you'll get on the team regardless of skill
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>drop phone on water
>get steam authenticator removed
>can't trad now

what if update come out and then i cant sell stuff right when they come out :(
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>>180862041
>one of them is going to be used anyway, especially with the fists nerf
>They'll just calculate for how long you can keep them out to not get to the mid injured, it's a small speed boost but still is a speed boost

well GRU would technically be better at that because you go farther and both of them reset in the exact same amount of time.

Eviction notice is better to arrive with, you would be leftenough hp to survive 3-4 of most shots compared to 2-3 the GRU has.

I'd say eviction is better because you are about 2 steps behind the GRU heavy and you could keep them on for a few more seconds and arrive at the point missing only 10-20 hp.

but then again you have to consider whats the minimum health you should enter with, anything over 200 is probably your best bet.
and you could simply keep going to the point with eviction while GRU would arrive a 2 seconds later.

god all of this is so painfully convoluted that it would honestly just be better to use fists when the other two shave only 1/8 of the time off the clock.

and all that muddling around would leave you in a dangerous situation for no other reason.
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>>180862737
Valve was waiting for this, now the update can finally come out, now that anon can't trade
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>>180862737
Dude, dude. Rice.
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>>180862737
>use bluestacks
>can trade without need a phone

Saved your life.
>>
>>180857045
+100% chance of critical hit while unbroken
+On hit: Bleed for 6 seconds
-33% damage penalty
-20% firing speed
-No random critical hits
-This weapon deploys 100% slower while unbroken
-Cannot be crit boosted while broken
>>
>>180863236
no

all of those things too apply to it when its broken
>>
>>180863236
>literally free double damage on first hit
no thanks
>>
>>180863425
>on first hit

anon
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>>180863236
Shit I forgot
>Bottle breaks on crit or when hitting a solid surface
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>>180862754
Heavy suicide is a meme
You should always get to the mid on full health by changing back from your melee at the correct moment
>>
does anybody here have the map "tr_flinger_b2" and could you upload it for me? the fpsbanana page doesn't seem to have any downloads for it and all other pages point to it
>>
>>180863052
it was salt water, i was at the beach and i left it in my pocket
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>>180863697
>You should always get to the mid on full health by changing back from your melee at the correct moment

Don't you only save like 2 seconds by doing this?
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Fix me please
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>>180863904
alright hacks steam FIX CABER!
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>>180863904
>ammo packs refill explosive charge
there, im not sure why the fuck i have to go all the way back to spawn just to make this piece of shit that takes forever to both equip AND swing actually somewhat viable
>>
TF2 is dead.
You should switch to Overwatch.
>>
im not fallin for that one
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>>180863571
what
>>
TF2 doesn't even have a confirmed date of release. Play something guaranteed like the next series of Pokémon games to roll through eventually or the SNES Classic when they drop
>>
>>180864195
it doesn't break, at least it doesn't for me
>>
>>180864062
Tried Overwatch during the free weekend
Stomped hard, got PotG almost every time
Felt very unrewarding, didn't feel like I was ever taking risks with unlimited ammo and no fall damage, not to mention the fact that there was usually a hero that could bring me back to life for free.
>>
>>180864315
It doesn't break for anyone.
>>
Extra cosmetic slot when
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>>180864023
>>>ammo packs refill explosive charge
GOD
everyone thought this and i'm amazed its not a fucking thing.

valve must just hate the weapon or something.

>>180864280
>TF2 doesn't even have a confirmed date of release.
what
>>
>>180863904
does 65 melee damage and 75 explosive damage for a total of 140
is refilled by dealing 600 damage
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>>180864062
>One Widowmaker Player gets too good
>Giving players the option to block playing with someone else ever again
>One Widowmaker Player literally too good to play
>Throws Hissy Fit
>Blizzard removes the Block Player function because he's a special snowflake

Naw I don't play games designed by cucks.
>>
axtinguisher
>removed deploy speed penalty
>damage penalty reduced to 20%

powerjack
>health on kill returned to 75 health + overheal
>movespeed boost moved to third degree
>muh nostalgia

third degree
>15% increased movespeed while deployed
>15% increased damage for each player hit in one swing (can two hit a medic with a single patient)
>20% damage penalty while deployed

sharpened volcano fragment
>can extinguish teammates to earn a crit
>20% swing speed penalty

pain train
>can now be used by pyro
>faster capture rate only applies when deployed
>10% bullet vulnerability replaced with 20% damage penalty while deployed

half zatoichi
>can now be used by pyro
>>
The update, you dumb shit
>>
>>180864548
>is refilled by dealing 600 damage

on any weapon right?
>>
>>180864062
>play OW
>can't even 1v1 without hardcounter bullshit

Why should anyone play this and not TF2 or even CSGO?
>>
???
>>
>>180864734
yes, except for itself
otherwise raise it to 740
>>
>>180864565
>I don't want to play with this guy because he's better than me
Wow. Just fucking wow.
>>
>>180864548
>ohk on light classes
no
>>
>>180864649
>axtinguisher
>>removed deploy speed penalty
>>damage penalty reduced to 20%

no
remove the swing speed penalty.

I actually underestimated the thing but it's still pretty good if you know what you're doing.
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>>180864565
>remove block player option
>players can now freely grief by making teles send you of cliffs or by covering the spawn door with Mei
>>
>>180864910
and whose that a problem for

scouts would counter the demo
snipers shouldn't be next to a demo
spies should lose in melee fights
engys should be to a demo especially if hes away from his sentry
>>
>>180863850
That's yuge for a midfight if you consider that all you lose are the fists of steel
>>
>>180865051
>they're at a disadvantage already so lets just make this easier for demo lol
>>
>>180864910
>getting caught in demo's melee range as a freaking SCOUT
>getting caught as an engineer, who sits behind his buildings all day
>getting caught as a sniper who is on the backlines 90% of the time
>getting caught as a spy despite having crutches to deal with it

bad player spotted
>>
>>180864062
>TF2 is dead
True
>you should swith to Overwatch
Why, it's the same thing. If TF2 is dead for you then so is Overwatch
>>
>>180865170
no
>they're at an advantage and are playing poorly to a demo that is hitting you with a melee weapon


how about this

Remove some cabre penalties
-If hit cabre explodes
>>
>>180863847
>go to the beach
>don't carry a jansport with you
>don't remember to empty your pockets
????

Nigga what are you doin'
>>
>>180865236
The fact that Overwatch costs money to get and has more micro-transactions than TF2 shows they are money hogs. Also, they have to add a whole new class to their game to keep it relevant. I would say that doesn't seem very successful.
>>
>>180865174
t. Never played highlander where a tide turner demoman can instakill a medic right off mid with stock let alone an explosive charge
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>highlander
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>>180865496
i barely use my phone unless one of my friends tells me to get online so i completely forget about it
>>
>>180865665
why do people hate the idea of highlander? its pretty much exactly what the game should be, every single class being used to their potential. its basically a more enjoyable casual mode
>>
>>180865939
6v6 is the way tf2 is meant to be played!!!
>>
Pubs were how tf2 was meant to be played
>>
>>180866034
More strategy involved by limiting it to 6 classes
>>
>-Your Eternal Reward: The most challenging knife to use, it rewards skill. If you make it so you can disguse, it loses its spark. Also you want to increasd the cloak drain rate, nerfing an already underpowered weapon seems... weird. Instead of ruining its concept and nerfing it, how about a little buff making the decloak sound silent? That would be awesome, it would save the weapon and make it even more interesting than it was before!

>-B.A.S.E. Jumper: Best thing ever added to this game. You can confuse your enemies, have fun, mess around and you want to change it because it makes soldier "hard to hit". But meanwile you buff the mantreads giving soldier more movility with them. A LOT more. What's the point? Don't change ig please, it's fine in its current state, a dumb weapon to have fun with, not competitive.

>-Sandman + Cleaver combo: Why do you want to end this? Just why?!

>Most of them are fine, but these 3 just seem completly unnecessary, and can ruin the gameplay for some people. They were not competitive weapons, but there is no need to, they are fun weapons!

What will Valve think about my email?
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>>180866163
>no man 2 weapons means you need more strategy with what you do
>>
>>180866091
100% agree
>>
>>180865601
t. i saw that one STAR_ video once

good video though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znsnm7aXXJ0
>>
>>180866283
>What will Valve think about my email?
>hmm
>hmm
>hmm
>hmm
>hmm
>I wonder if I should actually read these
>>
>>180866283
Gotta give reasoning about the sandman and cleaver combo
>>
>>180866283
>eternal reward
stop using ellipses
>base jumper
saying that a weapon is meant to confuse people and that you want to keep it that way it dumb
>sandman cleaver
no argument

bad email
>>
>>180866379
demoknight is honestly really good.

the higher mobility with the 100 no fall off pipes is amazing.

in fact it would be better if you could start off with more movement.
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>>180866283
my email was longer and had more funny memes.
>>
>>180866543
>>180866572
The is no argument needed for the cleaver
It's quite obvious for anyone that has played the game
>inb4 implying the tf2 team plays tf2
>>
>>180866379
which reminds me, comfy competitive stuff is the best, like i think it was one of FUNKE's where the heavy was calling out "4,4,4,4,4, HES TAKING 4;s hell be lit soon!"
>>
>>180866379
no i didn't, i played a product server where a demoman constantly flew around the rock and one shot me as a medic
>>
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Why is my advert replaced with an unclickable captcha, hiro pls
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>>180866775
>it's obvious that a weapon with a mechanic based around hindering the mobility and defense of every class in the game should keep this mechanic because i like it and it's fun for me to use, damn those who hate playing against it
don't quit your day job to join the debate team
>>
Okay

someone fucking clarify because multiple guns say "on wearer" and they mean when equipped or if the player has it out.

how do you know which is which.
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>there are people RIGHT NOW painting hair items non-natural hair colors
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>>180866283
this is shitty, because you are just complaining

I send them 3 emails after the balance blog post so far and in one I detailed my solutions for balancing like 20 different weapons, commented on how I see them doing changes with ambassador, YER and flying guillotine they want but pointed out how their solutions aren't good ideas, I wrote a paragraph and a half why I think nerfing base jumper's air control is a bad idea and provided solutions for matchmaking problems, new players not knowing what they do on servers and hacking (to some extent), I pointed out what will be the healthiest for the game to appear in the incoming update

you wrote some jackshit that no one will even pay attention to

>LOL GUYS DON'T END THE COMBO!!!!!!
>>
>>180867247
This pisses me off
>>
when are they going to buff southern hospitality and tribalmans shiv?
>>
>there are people RIGHT NOW painting items
>>
>>180867370
fuck the tribalman's shiv, where's the damn shahanshah buff
>>
>>180867528
This.
>>
The tribalman's shiv is a direct upgrade in highlander
>>
>>180867247
>there are people RIGHT NOW dying their real hair non-natural hair colors
>>
>these new balance changes

>They think the Ambassador is OP
>They think the Dead Ringer is OP
>They think the Sandman is OP
>They think Bonk is OP, really mad about this nerf.
>They reverted GRU to being an health drain again
>They actually fucking nerfed the Fists of Steel

Did they hire a bunch of brand new people to rebalance the game? Because these changes are retarded.
>>
>>180867818
they never said they thought any of that was true, maybe they thought it wasn't fun to play against so they decided they would try to remove what made them so annoying? oh wait that is exactly what they did and explained thoroughly beneath each change
>>
>>180867818
no

>its banned/used all the time in comp so we nerfed it
also
>They reverted GRU to being an health drain again
no
not even
>>
>>180867818
WARNING

THIS IS THINLY VEILED BAIT

DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST

HIDE THIS POST

IGNORE THE POSTER

SAGE TO BE SURE
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>>180867818
>lets give a class that can go invisible a sniper rifle with 6 shots
>lets also give the same class a get-out-of-jail card that can be refilled with ammo packs
>lets give the most mobile class in the game a ranged stun weapon
no clue about the others but im glad about what they did to these weapons
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>>180867039
>Browsing chinkchan with ads enabled
wew
>>
>nerf weapons for comp gameplay
>don't actually make comp mode playable
>>
>>180868136
They're making large changes to matchmaking in the update though, we've known this for a long time.
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>>180868060
git gud
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>>180868064
>le greentext outside of four chan xD
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>>180867818
more like
>they think the ambassador allows spies, a close range class, to pretend they're snipers when positioning and finding out if a shot is worth taking from a distance and escaping afterward is substantially easier for spies than it is for snipers
>the dead ringer is fucking annoying to play against and spies can recharge it way too often
>stun mechanics where the player hit has no chance of fighting back are bullshit
>being mad about the bonk
>implying that's any better or worse than mini crits
>implying the nerf isn't completely negligible
nigga you stupid
>>
>Like the smaller viewmodels
>Like to play on viewmodel_90
>Love the Original
>Cant use the original with small viewmodels because of that fucking hand


why is this allowed bros
>>
haha he used le get gud meme wow my argument is completely destroyed haha he sure showed me :(
>>
>>180868060
>lets give a class that can go invisible a sniper rifle with 6 shots
Are there actually people running wild as frontline Ambassador Spies?

The only time Ambassador really works is when you snipe an unsuspecting Engineer who is whacking away at their full-health sentry.

>lets also give the same class a get-out-of-jail card that can be refilled with ammo packs
Who cares? It's a fucking spy. You shoot rockets and bombs at him and he dies.

>lets give the most mobile class in the game a ranged stun weapon
It isn't reliable and it basically lowers your health just enough that you'll be basically one-shotted by anything.
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>>180868282
-is what youll have to do when it gets nerfed
>>
>>180868376
>Are there actually people running wild as frontline Ambassador Spies?
you don't play this game often do you
>>
>>180868361
i have the same feelings about the current situation
>>
>Landfall
>Put sentry in the sentry spot
>DR spy comes up, saps everything, runs away in a straight line so that I trigger his DR
>Shoot him
>Unsap and rebuild
>DR spy comes back
>Does the same fucking thing
>Repeats until I have a 30+ killstreak off this single DR spy
>Never actually accomplishes a single thing throughout the match besides this
>People still think this thing is not a crutch
>>
>changes??
>IN MY TF2?!!???!!!??!??
the future is now, old man
>>
>>180868483
actually most of these nerfs just add randomness to them relying less on skill.

like the amby
or the guillotine promoting long range spam
or the panic attack
or the Yer
>>
>>180868361
I first used original with minimized viewmodels on april 1st this year and I was sure it's an easter egg at first
>>
>>180868607
git gud
>>
>>180868376
>Frontline ambassador spies
Blame stabby. I've seen so many spies do it, but I only ever notice when they're on my team because they're usually so fucking bad they can't hit consistent headshots.
>>
>>180868507
I do and I've never seen spies pretend like they're McCree from Overwatch.
>>
reminder that you are slowed down as spy if you disguise as a class with normal movement speed

I used to think the invis watch made you faster but thats just the fact that you revert to normal speed when invis.
>>
>>180868749
>I started playing after tough break
>>
>yer spies litterally have five seconds of cloak
>or 6/7 if my math is wrong

thank you
valve....
>>
http://tf2r.com/kteidd7.html
>>
>>180868749
welcome to TF2

you're 9 years late
>>
>>180868841
>I started playing after tough break

No I just didn't think about the fact that you lose your +20% move speed because they move slower than the spy.
>>180868920
wut
>>
>>180868894
this is a virus, don't open
>>
>>180868749
Ever wondered why spies never disguise as a soldier or heavy? that's why
>>
am i a virus :x
>>
>>180868841
>>180868920
>>180869153
are you guys being stupid on purpose?

if you disguise as say a pyro, you lose your movement speed bonus.
>>
what do you mean
:?
>>
Yes. You've infected my heart.
>>
>>180867719
I'm kinda fine with this
>>
>>180869267
not if you switch to holding powerjack if pyro you disguised as is holding it
>>
>>180869373
is that actually true?
>>
>>180868298
youre acting like theyre nerfing the legit sneak and shoot from behind spy

theyre not, theyre nerfing the ez just disguise run up to the enemy team not even pretending to hide, aimbot 3 guys in the head then lmao just DR away spy. Any nerf to long range or effective reload time is irrelavant to anyone using it for its intended purpose and people using spy as a aimbot sniper that can DR
>>
oh
*blushes*
>>
im embarrassed now
>>
#killallcompplayers
>>
They should give the demoman the mantreads
>>
something something demo and glocks ecks dee am i funny guise? the reference i made is still relevant right?
>>
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>stop playing for two months
>hear about new changes
>see that the BASE Jumper is getting nerfed because comp player can't counter it
>>
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Thoughts?
>>
>>180870950
so close but then you couldn't resist shitting it up with a particle effect
>>
have this many people really been using the base jumper instead of any other actually useful item?

with all these complaints I feel like I'm being baited from all sides
>>
>>180871216
it's fun
>>
>>180871216
All the crutch users come out the woodwork when they find out it's getting reworked
>>
>>180871353
>crutch

its a fun gimmick weapon.
>>
>>180871216
It's fun to use with the market gardener. It helps reduce the instances of shitty hit registration and it lets you avoid fall damage, which means you can actually play as a fun, joke class and not die every 5 seconds. Why can't I just have fun in a 10 year old video game? This game will never be a comp sensation. They would attract more players by emphasizing the craziness, not nerfing everything into boring garbage.
>>
It's a crutch for bads who can't rocket jump.
>>
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>>180871353
>has never recovered from being MGed by a base jumper
>>
>One of the few games that people actually still play that rewards skill
>lol screw that let's just make it le epic wacky hat simulator
>>>/owg/ is that way
>>
>>180871528
>It's a crutch for bads who can't rocket jump.
>can't rocket jump
>manages to get high enough in the air that they can float


?
>>
>>180871674
t. bad who can't rocket jump
>>
>>180871764
I've only managed to get through easy level jump servers so maybe.

really I don't think it has anything to do with rocket jumping but more getting height advantage so people can't shoot you back.
>>
I have never seen the base jumper used except for one of four reasons
>demos torturing snipers
>soldiers bad at market gardening
>people dicking around
>cheating through rocket jump academy
>>
>>180868361
original looks good with low viewmodel fov and minmode viewmodels
it's really out of the way with those settings
>>
base jumper should be less effective the higher you are because the atmosphere is thinner
>>
>>180871965
>no airstrike

best fucking reason to use it.
>>
>we want people to use weapons with different weapons to add variety and creativity
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
>>
>>180872070
anon it would litterally be the reverse then.


also, why the fuck do people have problems with the base jumper. I thought it was like a joke weapon to anyone that could aim. You litterally stand in one specific location. You're basically dangling meat infront of snipers.
>>
>>180872312
This is why it's considered a crutch, Anon.

>>180872197
>Gimping yourself
>>
>>180872312
People in 6v6 can't counter it, because they're garbage and refuse to adapt.
>>
>>180872456
>Gimping yourself
I honestly don't care, its fun just shooting a carpet of rockets down on a point. I feel like a fucking kid loading a water baloon, cackling to myself with 8 rockets I'm going to throw at them.
>>
guys help I have this unrealistic vision in my head where the jungle update revives tf2. like valve does more promotional stuff, players start getting invested in the game and servers aren't all fresh installs, pyro gets a role other than "there's too many spies", the new weapons are actually good. even jerma makes a return and eventually brings a reluctant ster
>>
>>180872231
point out the hypocrisy in this? what if they made a weapon that made the match end with your team victorious the moment you left clicked but they intended it to do something else so they removed the ability to end the match by left clicking?
>>
instead of fixing pyro, they're just going to make everyone else worse
>>
>>180872772
>Wanting ster back
Hell the fuck no
>>
>>180872772
I just want pyro to counter soldier/demoman and afterburn to do something useful and have a fun side bonus to anyone lit on fire.
>>
>>180872813
nothing that's in the game approaches that level of unfairness

except for hackers, which there are still lots of, but first we have to stop those base jumping monsters
>>
>>180872550
>4 of the 6 classes are hitscan
>3 of the 6 classes have hitscan anything
the only problem people had with it was being able to deflate and put back up the chute instantly, being able to control z axis so easily made it very easy to dodge projectiles and a demoman can easily get so high a scouts shotgun/pistol wont be effective due to falloff. i think it needs reworking but i didn't think removing air control should be how it is done
>>
>>180873051
>are hitscan
arent*

besides, i don't think valve is doing it because of competitive players since they just whitelisted it and left it at that
>>
>>180872813
>good snipers
>>
>>180873015
>LITERALLY REEEE THEY SHOULDN"T BE ABLE TO PLAY LIKE THAT
>>
>>180873051
>people can dodge while they stay in the exact same x y position


thats like saying we need to nerf jumping.
>>
>>180873051
>the only problem people had with it was being able to deflate and put back up the chute instantly
that's smart use of the weapon to increase unpredictability
>>
>>180872772
ster made his bed and he must lie in it
>>
>>180873371
but we can't have that
its random and unfair to those that suck at aiming.
>>
>>180873571
I want an apology video ;_;
>>
>>180873051
Imagine a world where people who play the game "competitively" needed to be good outside of just one class, and not every game is just the same team composition every time.
>>
>>180873886
>>180873886
>>180873886
>>180873886

move up!
>>
>>180873759
Right?
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