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Flagellant Waifu edition.

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>>180587192

Official artists deviantart:
http://cribs.deviantart.com/

Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/ayjczL4M (embed) (embed)

Fanfiction Masterlist:
http://pastebin.com/CcNahBZW (embed) (embed)

OST:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGOvv8Bziniqak1ebzd6njY9S27GdxPRL

Narrator:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy1RoYlej6xWqRRci7K_OuQWa-7UgG0uo

Kickstarter heroes & trinkets
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Backer_heroes
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Backer_trinkets

Dankest Links
Official website:
www.darkestdungeon.com
Dev Posts & Patch Notes:
steamcommunity.com/app/262060/discussions
Catalogue Page:
boards.4chan.org/vg/catalog#s=darkest
Wiki:
darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Darkest_Dungeon_Wiki
Steam Page:
store.steampowered.com/app/262060
Less grind mod with some /vg/ skins:
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/77?
More /vg/ skins:
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/99/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/100?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/103/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/101/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/112/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/113/?
Musketeer:
https://mega.nz/#!g0kXjSQK!i3z0aYgJ6UKTz6OfHlAEgGN2RJGKOZAkXMhxffXYL_Y
Bucket Crusader (also dolphin porn):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8k2t5ncuea5s2bz/crusader_G.rar?dl=0

Anon-approved newbie guide:
http://pastebin.com/jK4HPS2e
/dadg/'s own champion boss guide, written by Anon:
http://pastebin.com/e3Sc7VER
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>Eat a piece of bread
>A MOMENTARY ABATEMENT
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MUSKETEER UPDATE IS HERE SINCE PEOPLE AREN'T NOTICING IT ENOUGH

>https://mega.nz/#!YqoElApC!Hg68PKDqlhrMJRUgrFcvNNCPYIiQuQYiD7FtEtKGa14

copy and paste the contents into darkest dungeon folder on steamapps
do what the readme file said + also run localization.bat on the crimson court folder


need help testing it out to see if there are mistakes, particularly with the trinkets.

Trinkets still dont have their icon until a backer uploads them to the wiki or here, it's the only thing I'm missing
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what a successful haul, 4 CC trinkets in one go, including BH full set, vampire shits never knew what hit them, could have stayed even longer but my inventory was full and my flaggy was getting close to a heartattack
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am i a bad person if i use backer trinkets?
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>>180665282

>see pics like this
>happy when I make 10k gold and get busts/portraits/deeds/crests
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>THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD KILL MY HERO AFTER I COMPLETED STYGIAN WITH NO DEATHS

No fucking way, niggers.
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>>180665074

>Occultist heals for 0
>Inflicts Bleed

>SOOTHED... SEDATED.
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Is it too much to ask for a visible action order? Would really help planning out the turns
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ancestor was actually doing the right thing for once
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>>180666256
I think it's intended. Knowing the turn order would makethe game a lot easier.
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shambler doesn't drop the map as his first item anymore

in case someone is interested or something
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>>180666662
Until he decided feeding her blood to everyone was a good idea.

I mean, what the fuck? Why would you do that?
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>>180665263
what do her CC trinkets actually do? also, if I install it now, and later you release a different version, its not gonna cause any problems right?
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whats the point of going to the cove when it has the worst enemies and shitty loot?
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>>180666854
his drops have always been random

>>180667118
they do absolutely the same thing as arballest's, except applied to the musketeer
should not cause any problems since different versions overwrite themselves


on a different note, can anyone test to see if the disctrict building for the arballest also affects the musketeer?
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>>180667173
easiest late game dungeon by far, good loot, double negative quirk removal curio, positive random quirk

you can basically level everything in cove and warrens since weald is cancer and ruins is super hard late game
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>>180667357
>his drops have always been random
pretty sure it was his first drop for a while
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>>180667357
is your musketeer identical to regular one or did you change abilities and such? this is my first playthrough so I am a bit autistic about mods
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>>180667173
>Shitty loot

It has the best loot because all you need to do is take shovels and keys.
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>>180667662
musketeer is functionally the same as the arballest, only her visuals are different (including skill icons, names and trinkets)
she is also treated as a separate hero, meaning you'll find both arballests and musketeers
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>>180666034
Don't forget to thank your healer.
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>>180667902
>musketeer is functionally the same as the arballest
She doesn't get the free bandage.
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>>180667879
and some additional herbs for FREE coral treatments
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What's the difference between hero level 5 and 6?

They can already get all the top gear at 5, what's the point of 6?
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>>180667879
>>180668601
Doesnt antivenom also give quirk treatment if you use it on the pools?
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>>180668515
its the price you have to pay for picking the superior waifu
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>>180668665

Extra resistances. It does make a difference in endgame dungeons.

>>180668665

Just healing and maybe stress healing I think.
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>>180668515
>>180668781
I can try to find where you can get that and correct it
I'm lazy though, since I'm enjoying my steam sale games
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Any way to edit the combat stance skins for crusader? The ones downloaded from nexus mods seem to have the wrong format, resulting into glitchy sprites in-game.
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>>180669159
packs laden with loot are often low on supplies

>>180669338
don't bother anon, I like this way
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>>180666924
To see what would happen. Duh.
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>>180669159
That's a lot of money stacks, why are there no gems?
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Are all the epic quests in the courtyard veteran or are there champion ones ?
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>>180664784
What the fuck is up with the massive difficulty spike in Level 5 dungeons? It just ramped from 0-100 instantaneously.

Even basic enemies now have at least 23 dodge, 30-50% prot, a 30% boost to all resistances, and a huge buff to their crit chance. In each battle enemies have landed 2-3 crits while I've only gotten maybe 1-2. What's up with the massive artificial difficulty spike?
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>>180670174
isn't it because between level 5 and 6 for your heroes there is no weapon upgrade or something? so you're basically a bit undergeared until they hit level 6
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>>180670174
People complained that champion dungeons were not that different from veteran, so Red Hook decided to change that.

They become easy once you realize that accuracy trinkets are your best friend, as well as increased scouting chance.
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>I am reduced to pure desire, a fire that cleanses reason!
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>take only champion level healer into mission
>second pack is collector
>at 10% health he life drains the vestal
>highwayman head crits her down to DD
>her turn is next
>bleed kills her
>literally first champion mission after leveling her up
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I know a bunch of people play DD on the PS4 since the control scheme is actually pretty good, but is there a single person on earth that's bothered to play on the Vita?
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>>180670321
thank you doggo of the blessed nose
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I have this bug that when I try to unequip all trinkets, the screen becomes blurry and I have to alt-f4. Anyone else getting it?
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>>180670434
I do not understand people who struggle with the Collector.
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>>180670434
God I hate Collector. I uninstalled because my star team wasn't built to get him in the back
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<whistles>
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>>180670643
>get him to 10% by turn 3
>he kills an 80% health character with no chance to respond
>this is struggling
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>>180670321
Accuracy might help but those resistances are insane. Plus the very noticeable buff to crit chance is just ridiculous. Your guys are nowhere near their level even after armor/weapon/skill upgrades. I can't even rely on DOT to reliably deal damage because I can't even land them in the first place.

Also fuck that Hateful Virago. Near 100% resistances, 48 dodge. How are you supposed to even kill her
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>>180669603
just crop it and rearrange them
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>>180670567
I've had it happen a few times, but if I spam escape enough the game comes back, though I have to exit the game entirely before it works properly again.
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>>180670896
>not killing him before turn 2 ends
>not killing him before he even gets to act or at least befroe his heads get to act
Yeah, you're struggling.
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>>180671197
(you)
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>>180671197
not everyone has a mark party every mission anon
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>>180671429
It's not my Vestal that died, anon.

But it's ok, I'm sure you will get better eventually.

>>180671661
But you should have stuns and damage. Collector can appear anywhere at any time, there is no excuse not be prepared for him.
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>>180670786
>star team
>can't reach rank 4 or at least pull
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>>180669159
DUDE
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Noice.
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>>180664784
Female Flagellant mod when

GET TO IT ALREADY
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>>180672209
LEAF
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They should take the Courtesan's Damsel in Distress and also give it to the Siren.
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>>180665074
>stunned
>a magnificent confluence of skill and purpose
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>>180670643
>Kill novice difficulty Collector

Lel so easy what's wrong noobs?
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>>180669159
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Fuuuck this bastard so fucking much. His attacks deal insane damage. Lost my lv6 Vestal to him and his butt buddies. Also fuck Crimson Court suckers in normal dungeons, if not for them I'd never lost Vestal.
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>>180673264
CRIPPLE THEM
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>>180673045
>implying the fight is significantly harder on champion
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>>180670643
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I always feel a little bad for them when this happens.
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>just got the game from the steam sale
>been doing alright, making the transition to veteran bosses and levels.
Any advice for what I can expect? I've already noticed the boosted hp and other shit from basic enemies. What's the best way to prep for the new wave of bullshit?
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>>180673786
Reminding yourself
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>>180673694
>LET ME SHOW YOU MY COLLECTION
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>>180673786
Stun is your best friend
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>>180673786
Every difficulty change adds a few new enemies to the pool. Some of them are jokes. Others think your hero's are a joke.
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>>180669159
THAT'S A LOT OF BUCKS!
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So which CC trinket sets are actually worth using? So far it looks like one part is great/situationally strong the other just sucks.
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>>180673786
"older" enemies get extra shit tacked on to their attacks ie, the Occultist Chick MARKS your dude when she does the incantation
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>>180673786
Start really focusing on getting the best trinkets per person, ensuring everything is upgraded, and so on. Things can be difficult, but focus on getting stronger as things go on. Don't challenge long dungeons with anyone but a team fully prepared and upgraded to one tier above the current level(4 for a yellow mission. 6 for a red). Don't go crazy. Don't fuck up preperation. Use everything at your disposal and don't hold back for 'rainy days'.

Its always raining.
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For the "survive 5 attacks on deaths door" do bleed/blight procs count?
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>>180673786
new enemies, yellow missions add big dudes to nearly every zone

champion adds specialist enemies that make life difficult, some focus on damage like>>180673264 while some focus on stress
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Is there any benefit to killing bosses on low light?
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>>180673834
>>180673884
>>180673908
>>180674052
>>180674104
I'm guessing that's going to entail upgrading everything beyond what is necessary for the blacksmith and the guild, right? Also, should I bother upgrading units as high as possible or remind myself that they're just disposable and save it for the best that I got?
t-thanks for the advice, guys
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>>180674031
Most of them are really fucking powerful, but tailored for a certain type of the class. Like a Battle Vestal is going to receive nothing beneficial from having hers, whereas a profane scroll will make her awesome. Just use them on the specific combinations they are designed for and they become monstrous. All of them.

>>180674204
Flagellant is your friend.
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>>180665263
so, it seems that it's having trouble loading/recognising the trinkets as you load the game
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>>180674298
A good idea, until you're truly confident, is keep sending in low level parties with antiquarians to farm gold and the like. Once you have a nice buffer, you can lose even a big group of top level heroes and only be set back some hours of play time.

Remember, the biggest loss here is not losing your favorite guy, but the hours it took to make him. You can always get another and train him. Of course, this takes time and effort.

Remember Overconfidence...
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>>180666662

in my head she talks like Zsa Zsa Gabor.
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>>180674574
It only makes my ovipositor harder.
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so what is the best Flagellant setup in your opinion?
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>>180674483
I'm on it

did that message just show up or did you get the trinkets?
debug message?
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>>180674708
>>180674708

>The Vestal will never be pinned under the bulk of the Crimson Countess' bloated abdomen as her ovipositor is rammed up into her virgin cunt and pumping her full of the next generation of bloodsuckers
>She will never look at the bound and pinned Crusader and give him a kissy face and say "You're next, dahling."
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>>180674869
It was a debug message, i don't have the trinkets.
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>post yfw I'VE COME TO COLLECT
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>>180670786
>it's a collector spawns two Highwaymans episode
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memeing it up with my waifus in the cove
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>>180675468
>>180670643
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The Nomad is selling a Very Rare Flagellant trinket. All it does is give him +10% Death Blow Resist. Is there something I'm missing here? It seems really lame for a Very Rare trinket.
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>>180675468
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>>180674483
did you perchance run both localization.bats?
I'm not getting that error
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>>180676259
It is when you have Martyr's Seal
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>>180676259
It's good for stacking with a martyrs seal thanks to his innate deaths door buffs. But outside of that use I'd just wait to find it on a expedition.
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>>180676606
>>180676572
but it only gives extra 2%, martyrs seal alone nearly caps you out at 85%
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>>180674916
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>>180676685

Also flagellant has a skill that increase his death door resist by 7%. The flagellant trinket is garbage.
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>>180676685
It's a use. If it wasn't for that 2% I'd just sell it every time. His common is better anyways.
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Make up your fucking mind Junia
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Ok, so if I may, how to use the abomination, jester, houndmaster, and occultise?

Abomination and houndmaster seem to be kind of utility characters that can stun and do damage, and occultist seems to be a debuffer and healer (kind of). But fucking jester, I got one and have tried him on a couple missions, and he does jack shit. His damage output seems a joke, his skills (from my memory) have no real benefit over a grave robber, and about the only unique thing is stress reduction.
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>>180677130
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>Have both of the CC MAA trinket set
>Shrieker visits
>Notice one of them is gone
>Fight Shrieker
>Trinket is not among retrieved stuff.

This is some fucking bullshit.
Where did it go?
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>>180677152
stress reduction with a abomination

good bleeds, can finale someone down at the start of the fight then proceed to buff/de-stress or bleed since bleeds wont be affected much by the debuff

alternatively you can finale, then solo and use herbs to remove the debuff and finale for full damage again
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>>180677152
You build the Jester building, do pic related and then buff/stress heal your team.
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>>180667378
Are ruins that hard late game? I usually don't bother going there, but went to champion ruins several time and it wasn't that bad. Yeah, DOOT sceletal can be pain in the ass, but if you bring PD, Occultist it's not that bad.
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>>180677331
I think the CC trinkets are bugged to not drop from the Shrieker right now. I've heard other people say thee same thing.
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>can afford jester building
>only jester died a few weeks ago and another one hasnt shown up
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>>180674781
I like to take Punish, Exsanguinate, Redeem, and Endure if i don't have a stress healer in my team
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>>180677152

Its garbage on smaller easier dungeon. I suggest just wait until you can level him up and have good trinkets so it can shine. He will shine but don't worry about the earlier dungeons.

Abomination is a beast all round, perfect "oh shit" buttom when you need to.

Occultist...I have a love hate relation with this guy. He deals massive damage(+80% against elfritch with trinket and quirks) and his heals are good if the RNG god likes you. He hasn't failed me that badly.

Antiquarians are fucking great, works awesome with Occultist, Flagellant, and Man at Arms. She doubles up your gold in a single loot run and her attack ain't terrible. Do give it a try anon, but I do suggest giving her a team and buying those really important skills if need be.
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>>180677676
Well fuck me, that was the only complete set I had.
I wonder if they only drop in the CC epic quests or if you can get them some other way.
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>>180677152
Occ, Jester, Hound, Abo

Use Occ to mark for Houndmaster
Jester to buff on the first round and heal stress,
Transform with abo right away and just wreck shit.
Fight should be over in 3 rounds at least.

Swap occ and jester positions if you're dealing with eldritch
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The jump from Novice to veteran dungeons is so harsh. Novice dungeons are so easy even level 0's can beat most bosses, but when you get to veteran you suddenly need every skill and your equipment upgraded, then you need to get good trinkets to even stand a chance.

Ironically, Veteran -> Champion isn't as big as a leap, and while Champion is hard, your heroes are basically already decked out if they survive Veteran.

I'm not calling for anything to be nerfed or anything like that, simply giving my opinion on the subject.
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>>180678123
Huh for me veteran dungeons are always pretty manageable and champion dungeons are the only ones where I feel like the RNG complaints have some validity, because crits can bring dudes to death's door from full Hp sometimes.
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daily reminder to use occultist with cleansing crystal for maximum healing value.
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>>180678123
>Veteran -> Champion isn't as big as leap
I beg to differ. Maybe it's the overall RNG but in the 150hr i spent in this game, i always found champion levels more challenging than their veteran counterparts, especially the jump in the difficulty once you hit Champion levels.
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So what are your parties for champion CC? I tried going with my usual A team of Arbalest/Occultist/MaA/Hellion that did great in lvl 3 CC but damage is so high that my Occultist and Hellion kept dropping low, can't guard everyone with enemies shitting AOE attacks, and surprisingly I didn't really feel the damage.

My new party is Arbalest/Vestal/MaA/Leaper and they did great. Arbalest has bandana and +25 dmg on cocksuckers, no penalties, Vestal has junia's head and -25 stress dmg box, MaA has recovery stone, +40% heal received, and ancestor's candle with Leaper having sun ring and dem garlic. This is the only time besides DD2 where I prefer Vestal to Occultist because of her higher HP, more stable heals, damage is too much and lots of AOE, and her somewhat weak stun works great on those big bugs that stun you, 65% stun resist only. MaA just saves your ass, stuns shit, and can bolster since some enemies after tasting blood have higher DMG but lower accuracy. Never was a Leaper guy but holy shit his new intimidate is incredible, you basically can have Houndmaster's prot debuff on demand with strong dmg reduction so you won't need dot's for high prot enemy. Then he does just Leaper things tanking all damage and shitting it at the same time.

I am not sure about arbalest since I have no other marking heroes, but at least she helps heal cheesing a lot and sniper shot is damn reliable. Which hero should I replace her with in such party? Also, this is my exploration team, for boss I will have a marking team, altho I will just swap Vestal for Occultist.
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>>180679009
>>180678863
Let me rephrase what I meant.

Champion dungeons are obviously the hardest, but what I mean is that there isn't much for you to do aside from adapting strategy and praying to RNG.

When you go from Novice -> Veteran you're basically in the real game from the tutorial. Veteran requires upgraded equipment, upgraded skills, correct team comps, trinkets, and lots of items which is just not necessary in novice. I remember the first time I played I didn't even bother upgrading my shit that much and when I hit Veteran dungeons I got wiped on my first go.

I didn't mean to imply Veteran is harder, but I meant to say that Veteran is similar to Champion in difficulty (just scaled up) while Novice feels like a different game.
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>>180679018
I use Vestal/Jester/Flaggellant/Helion to progress in CC and it works really good but it couldn't deal with Croc as the Champion version can cure bleed. Luckily i managed to escape without losing anyone, I'll try your comp this time to kill the croc.
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>'Anger is power. Unleash it!'
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>collector shows up for the 2nd time in a single mission
>2 retreat attempts fail
>2 of the 3 attacks which land on my backline crit and bleed them
>deathblows instantly

you know what. Im starting to understand why the reviews for this game are so negative. The game is so fun when it comes to managing all it throws at you and learning to play with the cards you are dealt and then it comes and shits all over you by throwing obscenely bullshit RNG into your face that you cant even mitigate because retreats have a chance to fail by default for some inane reason.

Ive enjoyed the game immensely up until this point and now I have zero desire to continue playing
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>>180679350
Well maybe because i knew what to expect and RNG fucking you isn't that hard in veteran, that's why i felt the jump from Veteran to Champ is harder. But you're right if it's your first playthrough
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>>180679431

>He lost to a collector

Anon, it was just a bad team.
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>>180677152
Houndmaster you don't focus on stun. The stun is powerful, but not very good because of positional requirements. Better skills are available.

Jester is amazing for stress relief and buffs, which are better then you think. Solo/Finale combo is insanely damaging when you utilize it. His bleeds are excellent stacks when compared with others. His dirk stab is meh, but useful sometimes.

Occultist is amazing for heals, when they roll high. He is a good marker and his debuff skill does do damage along with its debuff. His eldritch slaying abilities are amazing for when you're fighting those monsters.

Houndmaster is best used in marking parties with dog treats so you can do some insanely focused damage. His anti-beast damage and ability to bleed the entire enemy line is not to be underestimated either. Especially on the Flesh.

Abomination is a great dodge tank, with his puke passing out some much needed blight damage. This makes him great in ruins and cove. His stun deals good damage. His transform is for ohshit moments when you need to murder things. It can and will do terrifying damage to the enemy.
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>>180679374
Try my Arbalest/Vestal/MaA/Leaper comp, not one on picture since A-P-E-X rips through low HP heroes like Occultist and Hellion and Hellion's good reach fails when crocc can just heal dot and buff his prot. When I did croc in Baron's mansion I was very surprised on how good Leaper is vs him. Yes , you need him to move closer but Intimidate can heavily reduce his damage and counteract prot buff while at the same time you can keep using revenge so when this fucker comes you rip him. If you really want to kill him maybe swap Vestal for Occultist to pull dandy, using MaA to guard. Arbalest is pretty good because she can always deliver damage to him unless he is in pos 1, also blind shot WILL target not only crocc so it's kind of unless.
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>>180679935
I'll try this one, wish me luck anons
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>>180679431
What was your team and team's condition? Houndmaster is decent vs collector and you can clutch with Flagellant.
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Killed Baron. He wasn't very tough boss, his dungeon was much more difficult than boss himself. I wasn't even prepared and started a fight with half HP.
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Sending in a Bleed crew is a great idea for Courtyard too. I like Blood for the Blood God:

Occultist, Houndmaster, Flagellant, Hellion.

Go crazy with bleeding everything and use Flag and Occultist to keep people alive as needed, but just focus on bleeding things and ignore the crimson curse. Won't fuck you over if you bring enough Blood along.

If you have issues, get a marking party together:

Arb, Occult, Houndmaster, Bounty Hunter.

Proceed to mark and kill everything.
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The Blighters is perfect for farming cove and ruins and the bigger blight weak bosses:

Plague Doctor. Graverobber. Antiquarian. Abom.

Pour that poison shit all over everything and take turns in between healing as needed as you wait for things to die. You can mod in the antiquarian's heal to be usable from 2nd row if you want, but you can just use protect me on the abom and let him dodge everything.
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Should I start out playing this game with the expansion or just vanilla?
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>>180680109
well
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>>180680109
Fugg, I hope you do have flashbang equipped, or at least uppercut. Forgot to tell but croc can be somewhat easily stunned and flashbang can also shuffle him closer to your Leaper.
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Hmm.
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>>180680601
at least it was the worst character
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>>180680601
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>>180680528
Vanilla is a more gentle ramp. But activate everything if you want to go hard.
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>>180680743
I HEAR VOICES IN MY HEAD
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Lads help me out here, playing for the first time, was waiting for the crimson court to come out, I managed to beat the first quest on the second try, but the second quest in the crimson has 5 spikes around the circle instead of 3, which is the hardest I have seen so far, when will I be ready for the second quest?

Croc killed dismas btw
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>>180680743
artificial difficulty
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>>180681097
(spoiler)Remind Yourself(/spoiler)
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>>180680112
flag, hound, plague doctor, occultist. was going for a DOT heavy build
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>>180680601
FUGGGGGG, should have brought MaA along, this piece of croc is near impossible to burst down with glass cannon comp before he swarms you several times and does the A-P-E-X.
>>180680743
A-P-E-X-E-D. I am waiting everyone to hit that statue boss that was shown in the trailer so we can awash in memes and dankness.
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No i mean how the fuck you're supposed to kill Croc ? Can't reduce his damage because %120 debuff protection, on top of that he plays two turns a round to get rid of the buff easily. Stuns do fuck-all because two turns, APEX almost always crits and drops multiple heroes to Death's Door automatically.

Fuck this game i'm mad, i'm going to bed. see you tomorrow
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havent played in a few months, what does the new flagellant class do?
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>>180681574
Sweet dreams
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>>180681645
Suffer
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>>180681645

If it bleeds it dies, heals himself with the blood of his enemies, gets stronger when he gets an affliction and death doors, and basically is pretty OP. Guy is up there with the right trinkets.
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So wait, am I missing something or is the Flagellant not really a solo healer? Reading his abillities, I thought he was. But in practice, to rely on him as a full on solo Support is kind of unreliable, in that his HoT can't cover TOO much, and he has to be sub 50% for the big heal. So it just seems like he's best left to be a frontliner with another healer in the back.
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>>180677330
> ah the rare quantum guard
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>>180680176
Yeah, that was pretty much my team as well, except I brought a Jester instead of a hellion.
Finale turns pretty much every fight into a 3v4 and the stress heals helped alot.
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I expected this to be a lot harder. I went with lvl 3 gear and skills but still.
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Who would win in a fight ?
A P E X or Heart of Darkness ?
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>>180682324
>Come unto your maker.
Then again, 3/4 chance he targets a fucking plant instead. Sneaky croc.
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>>180682324
assuming she one shots the plants he might actually win
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>>180682434
>Chevaliers appear in other dungeons too
Fucking why?
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>>180682632
Because infestation
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>>180682632
Never saw them in the dungeons before and my infestation is high, do i have to kill baron first ?
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>>180682769
no, I fought them before baron, they're just more rare than the others
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>>180683089
Well shit that is a surprise
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>>180664784
I'm definitely running lepper and crusader in the first two positions and a vestalt behind them. Question is, am I better off with a second vestalt or a flagellant in position 3 or 4 with only support skills equipped?
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>>180683370
i'd say second vestal, flagman can't really do much from pos 3
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killed the second croc and got the second key

am I going to face baron now? team is in bad shape kinda, how hard is he?
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heh
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>>180682632
I've even met Esquares. In fact, the first time I fought Esquare was in Ruins. Dat rapier strike holy shit.
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>>180683523
baron fight is really hard, and it's also unlike any other boss fight you've had in the game so far. he's still kinda far, tho. watch out for wine box curios, if you use a shovel on them you'll get firewood, to camp
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Time for solo flagellant with martyr's to take down A P E X
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>>180683858
inb4 first deaths door hit is fatal.
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What traits do you lock-in for flagellants?
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wew
https://youtu.be/3G8diWmBUv0
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>>180684087

prot & dodge ones should be useful i presume
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>>180684197
Dodge is meh, because you kinda want to get hit to an extent
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why did nobody tell me that leper trivializes the weald? fuck
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>>180683523
I would suggest taking him down in a 3rd trip. baron isnt all that hard as long as you take the eggs one at a time. If you find the curio wine barrels you can use a shovel on them and get firewood so def look out for them
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>>180684312
But it's Man-at-arms who makes it trivial
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>>180683514
Is there any trinket setup that would make him viable with only non-damaging skills?
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>>180684446
>>180684312
That's not how you spell Occultist, anons
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Remember when seaward slash caused bleed?
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>new to the game and struggling a lot
>feel like i'm kind of getting the hang of it
>doing the mission for killing the sonorous prophet
>make it to the final hallway which has a combat encounter in it
>all of my party has more than 75% of their health and i haven't camped yet
>decide i'll clear out this hallway and then camp so i have the best chance of fighting the boss
>fight starts and before he even gets a turn my healer is hit with a massive crit putting him at death's door and then is hit again by an AoE skill, killing him before I can even interact
>not even sure if I can win this fight against bandits, let alone have the slightest chance of killing the boss
What's even the point of this game when sometimes you're just randomly going to get fucked over and there's nothing you can do about it? I feel like literally none of my choices in combat matter and I'm just playing an elaborate slot machine.
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>>180669159
>"Smoke this leaf, it will restore your confidence"
Everyone has their eye on the gold when they should be watching the green
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>>180683769

do i get to keep the firewood if i leave and go in again? can anyone confirm?
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>>180684590
i haven't seen all of the flagman trinkets so far, but maybe +healing and +hp trinkets could work. you'll have to keep bleeding him out with reclaim, but at the same time it's not really worthwhile to keep him at low hp because the damage buff will be wasted on pos 3, so it's probably a good idea to keep him safe. try ressurection collar + chipped tooth, i guess
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>>180685025
i don't think so, no
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>>180684819
Yes.
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>>180670643
"Why can't everyone just crit for 85% of his health on the first round?"

Anon, you might have the tism
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>>180684939
>new to the game
Of course you don't understand, the point of the fights is minimizing all the risk. Once you know how to do that you can clear the game without heroes dying left and right
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>>180685225
>implying that crit was even needed
He did on the first turn of round 2. If he was still alive after that he would be immediately hit by another Blindfire since Arbalest buffed her SPD before.

If he was still alive after that- best case scenario he would act last and be hit by a Sacrifical Stab/Collect Bounty. Worst case scenario he would act right after and summon the heads. He would still be prey to Abyssal Artillery and the tiny bit of damage of Come Hither.

>Anon, you might have the tism
Anon, you might just suck.
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>>180685526
I understand that the game is about risk management, but is there really any "management" when it comes to just hoping you don't instantly have one of your party members killed on the first turn when they have most of their health?
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>>180677130
>>180677330
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>>180686029
>instantly have one of your party members killed on the first turn when they have most of their health?
This doesn't happen though. You're exaggerating.
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>>180677130
>>180677330
>>180686115
er....
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>>180677152
This
>>180677598
I've always loved the Jester and since the District update he's insane. I shouldn't even say anything lest Red Hook catch on and nerf him.

I like to position him out front and wipe out a target on the first turn. From the back he either stress heals, or makes his way to the front again with Dirk Stab.

He shines with other shufflers like GR and HW and flexible fighters like the MaA and BH. Less good when his constant movement is shunting Saders, Leppers, and Arbs out of position.
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>>180686029
That will never happen unless for some reasons everyone on your team got less than 4 speed and have shit accuracy.
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>>180679018
I've been using Occ, GR, MaA, Jester and it's been going well.

Healbombs on the Occ, hexing/marking on some of the more dangerous enemies. GR has the Mercuial Salve and does decent damage to all rows. MaA is essential (as always), his stun and guard/reposte combo are needed to deal with chevaliers that can fuck up all rows. Jester deletes an enemy on the first fight every turn and then either stress heals or herbs and goes in for another shot.

It's a good set-up. Jester and GR kill fast enough and can hit all rows. MaA adds damage, stuns, helps to manage incoming damage, Occ heals, takes the edge off the nastiest mobs, and occasionally stabs something.
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I finally got around to finishing the second courtyard mission. Baron's gimmick was pretty cool, but I never got to see what his transformation looked like since my heroes kept dodging whenever he used it. If I had known about his crowd pleaser attack going in I would've equipped MaA's riposte as well, but duelist's advance and a few finales proved enough.
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this might seem like an odd question but how in the hell do I get more heirlooms? I know about trading but it always seems like I can never get many to hold in missions
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What should I do for my second building? I already have the vinter.
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>>180687602
I plan on getting the Jester building, whatever you do, don't get the bank. It's a trap.
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>>180686676
Solo is even better then Dirk Stab because of the instant to the front. That -acc debuff is really dang powerful, especially stacked.
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>>180687337
Focus on one specific heirloom type you need. The exchange rates are not beneficial.

Do medium/long dungeons.

Choose dungeons that reward the specific heirloom you need.
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Can anyone give me tips for the Flagellant? I've brought him out for like 5 missions now and he seemed rather underwhelming. How do I use him properly?
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>>180687337
Best bet is to simply prioritize them. Take an antiquarian party in for farming alot of gold, then bring in another party specifically for focusing heirlooms. Take all the right items you need to interact with every curio. Overstock. Then drop all the money loot you get as you fill up.
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>>180687724

how so? it doesnt work or you say that because it takes a long time for it to pay off?
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>>180687602
Jester building has the second best cost/benefit ratio.

Everything else is hardly worth getting over upgrading Guild/Blacksmith/Sanitarium/Abbey. The carthographer gives pretty good bonuses though.
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>>180687602
Performance Hall is cheap enough and really fucking overpowered if you're using Jesters.
Cartographer's Camp is also pretty good if you're primarily doing full-light runs, and increases the loot you gain from missions eventually.
Puppet Theatre makes it so you never have to use the Abbey or Tavern again, but then again you could always avoid that by stress-healing during missions.
Depending on what part of the game you're in and how much money you have the Bank may or may not be worth it.
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>>180687946
Not only does it take way too long to pay off, but they gain is minimal. If you have 50k in your stash, you only gain what? 2.5k? which is essentially nothing, you need to have 200k+ in order for it to actually give you decent amounts of money, and at this point your money is pretty much already doing fine on it's own.
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>>180687946
> it takes a long time for it to pay off?
More like "it takes so much time to pay off that it never pays off".
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>>180687874
Punish is a strong damage skill in the Warrens and Weald, and can 1-shot a lot of enemies.
His heals are really strong, but he has to be under 50% HP to use them. Reclaim lets you use them more consistently so you don't have to rely on enemy damage to bring him to that point.
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>>180688008
>Depending on what part of the game you're in
Even if you could build it on week 1 it still wouldn't be worth it.

>`how much money you have
If you have little money you won't earn shit. If you have a lot of money you don't need more to begin with.
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>tfw unironically bought the Granary district
I regret nothing
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>>180687270
his thirst attack doesn't transform him sadly, just heals him
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What does bloodlight count as? No torch?
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>>180688885
max torch
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>>180688062
>>180688278
I have ~250,000 gold stored right now and I'm getting 12,500+ a week from it. It's definitely paying off.

>If you have little money you won't earn shit. If you have a lot of money you don't need more to begin with.
The point in the game when you're giving your heroes their final weapons/armor/equipment upgrades is a massive spike in spending because of how expensive those upgrades are. I've consistently gone from 200,000+ gold to almost nothing in previous runs because of how expensive it is. The bank gives you a cushion for that point in the game, and lets you spend more frivolously on sanitarium/stress-relief/nomad wagon trinkets.
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I've encountered The Collecter 3 times in a 2 hour session. Anyone more unlucky?
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>>180688595
How much free food does it give you?
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>tfw your shit laptop from 2010 can,t run this game cause the integrated graphics don't support open GL above 2.0 (need 2.1)

Feels bad man.
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>>180689039
random evey week
I've gotten as much as a whole free stack
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>>180689241
Not bad.
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>>180688595
I have too, it really is a sight to behold.
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What would happen if pic related played Darkest Dungeon?
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any simple draw request ?


>>180688990
i am sitting at 588k

granted i am not much of a spender but damn, there is literally nothing to do with all of this gold


i wonder what red hook could implement as CONSTANT money sink in the future , districts arent making it.
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>>180689032
As long as he's not killing you/ending runs, I'd say that's pretty lucky. I love me some head and puzzling rocks on a Saturday night
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>>180689419
"I'm the guy who gets really mad about video games and yells about them on camera"

has to be the saddest existence in the world
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Hey,i just got this game and downloaded it,anything i should know before starting?
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>>180689485
Plague Doctor pulling out a blood vial from her cleavage (extra big please)
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>>180689032
3 puzzling trapezoids minimum sounds pretty lucky to me
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>>180688990
> I've consistently gone from 200,000+ gold to almost nothing in previous runs because of how expensive it is.
There is no way you are spending this much gold unless you are actively trying to spend as much money as possible and avoid discount upgrades.
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>>180689682
It's more fun to go in blind. But I can recommend to try using items on curios that make sense.

Also, remember to have fun in your suffering, it's a nice feel.
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>send best healer to the bar to drink away her stress
>goes on a bender, disappears
>go dungeon crawling come back
>still gone
>ok, weird
>go dungeon crawling again, come back
>third week now, still gone

she was eaten by pig people, wasn't she?
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>>180689682
Take things slow
Over prepare for missions (bring more food, torches, and bandages than you'll think you need)
Bleed and Blight are better than you think
Skills that re-position your party members are better than you think
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>>180689485
>>180688062
>>180688278

well im wondering if it gets you money if you abandon the quest

imagine infinite abandon runs with level zeroes
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>>180689419
He's going to put him playing the game behind a 1700 dollar patreon paywall then he's gonna ragequit the game after 5 hours.
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>>180689682
Stuns are your friends, buy food and shovels
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>>180689485
Hellion wondering why the swill in her tankard taste even shittier than normal with a horny plague doc in the background.
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>>180690049
I think it'll only work if the week counter goes up, which instantly retreating from a quest doesn't do IIRC.
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>>180689419
"WOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IT WAS TRAPPED"

"FUCKING BUGGED ATTACKING MECHANICS WHY DO I MISS ALL THE TIME?"

"THESE CRITS ARE FUCKING BULLSHIT"

"EVERYONE'S DYING FROM HEART ATTACKS I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING AHUHUHUHUHUHUHUH"

ad infinitum until he quits after a couple hours or has the faggots on his streams guide him through every little thing until he somehow wins and then has the nerve to act like he's skilled.
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Should I lock slugger on my flagman?
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>>180664784
fuck OP still isn't updated at all.

I made this recommended mods paste bin considering the Less Grind Mod on the OP is outdated as fuck

Also, anyone interested in turning this one into a full blown mod even if it's just an Occultist Variant? The effort pushed into this is too good

>http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/355/?
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I want to use mods that add more classes but a lot of them just look subtly off from the rest of the game and it bugs me.
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>Reynauld gets the Crimson Curse taking a shot for Dismas
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>>180691831
my reynauld and dismas died on the first mission
>>180690242
thats a whole new level of nasty mods plz put this man on a sex offender watchlist
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>>180689419
>so i managed to beat this boss while i was playing off stream...
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>>180689485
I'm quite honestly disappointed with districts. I thought they would be more complicated than paying shit for small bonuses, like a management system where you have to pay attention so your resources can flux more wildly (getting businesses started can earn you more gold or cost you on a rare event, some buildings giving you more investment back or are affected by events, being able to trade heirlooms for gold or vice versa by a market deal you can make or break and etc.) Would've been cool if you were on the business side of things since you're managing this cursed hamlet.
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>>180691415
I know the feel. fuck
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>>180673786
Never ever EVER go into the coves without a PD.
>bleed 10 for 5 turns
[screams externally].gif
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>>180689851
>Vestal gets drunk
>Contemplates religion and purpose
>Begins to doubt her contributions to the hamlet
>"Lord, What am I even doing here?"
>Door to the bar creaks open via wind, she takes it as a sign
>Leaves and never comes back, doesn't even leave a note
>Spends her days in a quiet far-away abbey performing healing miracles for the local villages

She wasn't eaten; she won the game
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>>180693337
The fact that none of the districts are tied to town events is a massive missed opportunity.
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I like that the hamlet's idea of a festival is covering the ancestor statue with a huge cloth and erecting a wooden stress symbol on its head.
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Made a pastebin for recommended mods for the OP. Thoughts?

>https://pastebin.com/egURgRSZ

I didn't put anything too gamebreaking I hope
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>>180694125
The link for various art fixes doesn't work.
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>>180694275
oh the creator literally just incorporated it in to his expanded color scheme mod literally after I posted the pastebin
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>>180694125
updated the mod pastebin

https://pastebin.com/CHAQeS3j
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>go into sonorous prophet fight blind
>vestel, aboriginal arbarist, bounty hunter, man at arms
>secret room right before the boss, contained dismas head and 2 other trinkets worth a few grand
>go in to the fight
>what the fuck, can drop rubble for 22 damage
>arbalist is spending the fight plinking the prophet or healing
>vestel is healing every round
>BH and MAA are breaking wooden barricade to get close
>at least the prophet is marked so aboriginal is making some progress
>the both vestel and arbarist are knocked on deaths door
>they spend the whole fight like this
>one or the other (sometimes both) on deaths door
>heal themselves up
>knocked down on the first turn of the next round
>only saving grace was that the prophet never attacked them or managed to land blight on them
>break the last barricade, BH lands a 21 damage crit, arbalist goes for broke and lands a 14 damage snipe to finish him
>had 2 pieces of food left in my inventory, take both the vestel and arbelist off of deaths door, leave the dungeon
>dungeon still had half the rooms unexplored
>found a map in a bookcase, knew there were 2 more treasure chests
>no worth the effort, and my inventory was already full
>pic related, got a martyrs seal as well

now im too scared to put the seal on anyone for fear of them being instantly gibbed. i think ive had enough excitement for one night.
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>>180694924
Advice: bring an occultist next time to spam weakening curse. Turns the rubble into a gentle breeze.
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>>180694924
Bring an occultist and spam the curse that reduces the atack damage.
He becomes a literal joke after that.
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>>180693348
The only class mod I use is one that adds the musketeer for non-backers, because it has the same look and feel as the rest of the artwork.
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does the fanatic trinket increase damage on the pyre or just the fanatic himself?
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>>180694924
Take an isis magician and continuously use his decrepitating trickery, the debris becomes pebbles after that
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>>180691415
Pit Fighter is good. Matches the art pretty well, has it's own barks, and God, it's just so fucking satisfying to see teeth fly every time he hooks 'em in da gob.
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>>180695367
I do have a fondness for people who fight with their fists in a world of swords and guns...
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>>180694924
In the video game Darkest Dungeon, use the playable character class "Occultist" and repeatedly use the skill known as "Weakening Curse" to lessen the impact of the Sonorous Prophet's "Rubble of Ruin" attack.
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>>180689419
he would get to meet his long lost brother
*snort*
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>>180694924
Summon ye yon swarthy sorcerer unto the pulpit of the maddened voice of God, an ye shall work upon him the magiks of enfeeblement. Lo, and witness; all crashes to ruin, an harms ye none.
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Currently running through the Courtyard at the moment, trying to get as much loot as I can.

Will I lose keys if I retreat before using them in the dungeon?
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>>180694924
The Saracen's wicked gaze has a peculiar effect upon those he looks upon with his fiendish eyes. Even the blind are not safe, wilting under the devil's sight.
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>loads of food curio around baron
>you now realize that this is so that he can gutload you before dining on your fatten innards
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>>180695062
>>180695090
>>180695248
>>180696008
>>180696415
>>180696548
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>tfw
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Well this is embarrassing.
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>>180696652
>>180696960
What was that about overconfidence?
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Ok, so im about to fight Vvulf with a Arby, Vestel(i dont have a high enough Occult, BH and MaA. Should i just completely ignore the barrel and focus him down and just spam Vvulf down?
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>>180695062
>>180695090
>>180695248
>>180696008
>>180696415
>>180696548

im sorry, i didnt quite catch that? as i said, i am going into the game blind, so i am not aware of your minmax cheese strategems. my most sincere apologies.
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>you can now send a single level 1 character to brigand incursion, retreat immediately, and lose nothing
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>>180677969
They can only be recieved once per game, just farm the croc fight in first mission for them if you really want em
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>>180696960
it could be worse
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>>180697498
Anon, you better not be lying
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>baron
>fucking whips my jesters like slaves
>crowd cheers as my soldiers suffer without healing respite
>anger is seething in me
>slowly grind him through the acts
>get him down to his last act
>my jesters get the last laugh
FINISH THAT THIRD RATE CLOWN!
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I have been blind for so long, but I see clearly at last.
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>>180690242
quick doodle before sleeping


>>180689794
maybe later, i am too tired
>>180693337
trades busts/crests/etc for money isnt a bad idea at all
pretty good on the early game when you are a tad tight on money.

it is pretty easy to implement too, i hope red hook do so in a future update
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>>180687602
JESTER
E
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Otherwise the Altar of light is pretty good
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>>180694816
add the musketeer near the top of the thread, anon's working on making her a separate hero from arbalest
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SHOULD I DO IT?!
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>>180698074
damn it, i cant open my eyes
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>>180698165

https://pastebin.com/70b4DBBZ

Added
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>A hero gets cursed
>No matter who the fuck he is he is getting his heretic ass purged
>Send him alone to a champion run
>see how much they last

Once i had a cursed vestal endure 8 MOTHERFUCKING DEATH DOOR PROCS, Got the achievement before she was raped to death by Mad Max Pigs.

The Fanatic must be proud of me
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>>180696853
>having any moves uncovered on the swine besides Wild Flailing
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>>180697736
When the DLC dropped they made it so you can embark with less than 4 heroes now.
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Fuck

The boner you get when you plan a team out for a boss, get your ass kicked on the way there, recover and slay the fucker with everyone still alive

THIS IS WHY I PLAY THIS GAME
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>>180697697
>tfw you've been actively trying to get Wilbur to kill someone for the achievement but somebody ends up going loony and killing him every time
>can never get the one for beating a boss with four afflicted heroes because one always has a heart attack first.

I have two modes: everything is going perfectly and letting the bodies hit the floor.
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>>180698521
Pardon my retardation, but, what?
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>>180664784
>female version not thick and muscular like the male
>gravity-defying tits

Fucking trash.
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>>180698249
>Plague Doctor uses The Thirst
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>>180698619
HOLY SHIT SERIOUSLY.

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.

FINALLY I CAN JUST SEND TWO LEPERS AND CALL IT A DAY.
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>>180698669
i got my FOUR JESTERS virtue'd

ABSOLUTE MADMEN
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>>180698795
You can remove marks Wilbur casts so Swine doesn't hit you with obliterate.
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>>180690808

Oh shit that mod is neat.

Still dunno if I should replace the Choir skin for the Occultist
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>>180690808
Gwyndolin is for faggots with no taste.
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>>180698795
If you're on you A-game with clearing marks every round you can beat the Swine God without ever seeing him use either Obliterate attack, and thus they don't show up in the box in his stat spread.

That anon's only ever seen the Obliterates, which means he fucked up.
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>>180679431
>not lowering the insane and absolutely ridiculous crit chances all enemies get in Champion dungeons
At apprentice enemies have about 2%, at Veteran 6%, and at Champion around 12% chance to crit for at least one or two of their attacks. I edited each Champion monster's files and lowered their crit chances to much more reasonable numbers because I felt the same as you did. Even my front liners don't nearly have as much base crit chance as they do.
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>>180699139
I was that anon, but the King wasnt hitting the marked targets. He marked my abby but just went for my Leper.
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THIS LINE. WILL. NOT. BREAK.
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So is it just me or does the Flagellant look a little bit like the town Priest if he got swole?
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>>180700401
That is literally impossible. He only obliterates marked targets just like fungal zombies only use Rend the Marked on marked targets.
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what the hell
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>>180700569

You can do it, you have a good team for Vvulf
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>>180700614
I dunno then, i personally didn't have trouble with it AT ALL. My dudes did have pretty good dodge.
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>>180700580
You discovered his secret identity, anon.
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>>180700569
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>>180700401
this anon is either lying or delusional, disregard his comments
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>>180700318
>I'm a scrub
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>>180668696
no just a shitty hp or stress heal, and it's a rather infrequent encounter
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>>180700683
Done and Done.
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>>180700878
Vvulf Tassle is pretty terrible. The bonuses are too low for something this conditional.
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>>180700614
Sometimes he just doesn't attack marked targets, I've had it happen to me as well.
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>>180701015
Its more of a personal victory, cause he fucked over one of my other playthroughs
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>>180701015
It's alright on an arby if you're going for a shambler run. Some synergy with BH's camp skills also.
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>still using the outdated links and pastebins in the OP, even after somebody pointed it out last thread no less

Whoever is making the new threads, I must kindly ask to stop this lazy bullshit
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>>180700835
>I like dealing with bullshit artificial difficulty because it gives me an inflated sense of personal ego after 5 different defeats and dead heroes later thanks to RNG and an unreasonable spike in difficulty that constantly has my heroes at a disadvantage regardless of their level and how much I've invested into them for no reason other than just to be difficult in a video game that's supposed to bring me enjoyment and fun
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I am 20 weeks in and still haven't gotten any invitations. Do I need to take cursed heroes for the invitation-carrying enemies to spawn or something?
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>>180701251
your infestation level needs to be high, mouse over the red banner on the left to check. it goes up by itself over time
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>>180701148
>arby
Musket Ball + Matchman Stick is far better.

>BH
Pen + Wounding Helmet is much better. If you don't want the lowered stun/move chance of the helmet you are probably better off with the DMG/SPD music box.
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Does having all three heads reduce the chance to run into the collector? Haven't seen him in like 20 weeks
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>>180670643
based snortsman

someone should make a mod where you only get bounty hunters in the stagecoach
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>>180701220
> projecting how much you suck this hard
> blaming the game for being a scrub1
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>Collector's lifesteal move has a 22% base crit chance at Champion level
Who the fuck thought this was okay even level 6 heroes at most have 15% base
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>>180701451
I can never get the damn musket ball for some reason. It just never seems to show up, and when it does it's always at the end of whatever region my usable roster is least suited for. It's in the ruins when my crusaders are praying, it's in the cove right after my only PD picked up Curious. It's fucking mocking me.

>>180701251
Infestation needs to be high, once it is they're pretty common. Be sure to focus fire on the gatekeeper or he'll flee.
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>>180701220
No anon, you're just bad at the game. I haven't lost a hero in a champion dungeon since my first save file about a year ago. Numerous people have completed no-death runs.

What's even more damning is you don't even need to go into the files to change this if you wanted to, it's literally in the gameplay settings for shitters like you.
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>>180701593
Mobs don't have quirks or trinkets. My highwayman routinely reaches 45%+ crit rates.
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>>180701593
Crit Champion Life steal deals only 20 DMG, is not likely to be used and has low ACC though. You are given a lot of time to kill him before he uses it, too.
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>>180701724
I think Musket Ball is only rewarded in Weald. At least that's my experience and what the wiki says.
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>>180701728
Deck based stagecoach is for shitters tho
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>>180701728
>pic name
Never Again is bullshit though. It only forces grind.
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>>180701970
I could have sworn I've seen it elsewhere.
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>>180701728
Crit chance isn't in the gameplay options, you have to manually edit the crit chance of each monster if you want to lower them. I'd applaud you and others then for having no death runs and the RNG that allowed you to do so. Wish I could say the same for mine and others heroes who we've spent tons of money and time on equipment and levelling only to have them die thanks to bad dice rolls, inflated enemy crit chances, health, and resistances just so the game can say it's hard
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>>180702075
Dunno, maybe it was changed.
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>>180702067
Honestly it's not a big deal. The party comp you want for each run doesn't have that much overlap. The only class that's useful on all of them is Houndmaster, because of course he's useful. He's always useful.
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>>180702098
posts like these make me wish darkest dungeon had some sort of replay feature so we can see how many mistakes these "i lost becus bad rng not because i suck reeee" routinely make
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>>180702098
You seem to have a very hard time coming to terms with the fact that you simply suck.
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sh-should i buy this game? i saw some of my favorite let's players play it a while ago, and it looked like a fun meme.
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>>180702098
>crit chance isn't in the gameplay options
>checkbox literally named "standard enemy crits"
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>Hellion uses YAWP
>WEEKEND

pray tell, why did our ancestor mean by this?
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>>180702283
No, it's shit
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>>180702193
It doesn't add anything to the game except grind though. Not being able to use a hero twice is not difficult, only annoying.
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>>180684087
speed, stun or move resist and acc
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>>180702330
not him, but that option doesn't lower crit chance, it just makes crit do max damage instead of multiplying base damage by x1.5
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>>180702283
Yeah bruh. Join us. JOIN US.
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>>180702483
That sounds even easier, makes them hit for 1/3rd less.
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>>180702330
>he didn't actually read the standard enemy crits box and realize that unchecking that box only makes enemy crits do max damage and not multiplied damage like your heroes do, and doesn't actually have anything to do with the monsters' chance to critically hit
I'm surprised you managed to even figure out how to start the game on steam.

>>180702271
>Dude just get good in this RNG centered game! What, are you saying you can't get good at Russian Roulette or some other game of chance?
I'll give you that you can boost your odds with buffs and the like, but it doesn't change the fact that RNG can fuck you up just as much as it can help you. I don't understand how pure skill works in a game where hits are determined by artificial dice rolls. If the game was something like reaction time or analyzing enemy moves and countering them then "you simply suck" might be an actual argument, but in DD where the fact that you can completely get wiped or live comes down to a dice roll based on pure chance sucking or skill barely or doesn't come down to it at all.
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>>180702283
Just remember, when you start...
YOU ANSWERED THE LETTER. NOW, LIKE ME, YOU ARE A PART OF THIS PLACE
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>>180702705
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>>180702484
Lately I've been having so little trouble with the Collector that I just see fighting him as a bonus 3500 gold at the end of the quest.
I almost feel bad.
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>>180700650
Obviously the scrubs at the gambling hall mistake her skill for cheating
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>>180702834
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>>180702996

You are correct, it isn't an argument. Its an observation. =^)
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>>180702705
>I don't understand how pure skill works in a game where hits are determined by artificial dice rolls.
The skill is in understanding the dice rolls and compensating for them by manipulating the factors that are in your control.

The odds of getting wiped without being able to do anything are ridiculously low, low enough that thisusuallu will not happen even once in dozens of weeks it takes to finish the game, as demonstrated by players who finished Stygian with no deaths.
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>>180694023
Gee I wonder why they hate him
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>>180701478
he only appears if your inventory is over 60% full, but even so dude has been MIA on my latest save file
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>>180702283
pirate it and find out nigga, its like 10 bucks anyway
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I hate that swamp pig
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>>180703342
pirating games is really hard...
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>>180702996
good players are able to manage risks and know when to retreat or press on
a good player will succeed, and do so easily and consistently
if you have problems at the game, it's your fault because you are not a good player
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>>180703474
>implying
I sometimes pirate games just because it's less of a hassle than buying. It's actually kind of ridiculous how convenient pirating is.
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>>180703101
>>180703520
Right, and I get that. But even if those Stygian finishers who beat it with no deaths accounted for as much as they could, there would still be the luck variable in that the roll actually goes into their favor. They can definitely make it so that their desired result is most probably going to occur, but there will always be an area no matter how tiny that could cause a team wipe. Luck was on their side as well, how much is up for debate. You can't mitigate 100% of the chance in this game.

Either way more power to those guys. I certainly don't have fun min-maxing my heroes to the game's absurd artificial difficulty mechanics as it goes up in levels, so I'd rather tone it down a bit so that while I'm still challenged, I can still have fun and not be overly frustrated by elements in this game like getting crit 4 times in a row (no joke) and miss around 3 of my hits while they hit my heroes each time when we all have the same amount of dodge. Like I said, luck and chance invariably play a big role in the game and while it can be manipulated to your favor with buffs and whatnot, the inherent and unreasonable ramp up in crit chance, resistances, dodge, etc. in enemies just so they can say it's more difficult is not exactly something I'd enjoy dealing with
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>>180703520
>a good player will succeed against getting crit multiple times in a row
>a good player will succeed against getting stunned several times one after another despite having anti-stun trinkets and quirks
>you're just a shit player because the rolls weren't in your favor
Are farmers who have their crops suddenly flooded by a flash flood without prior warning shit farmers too?
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>>180697774
so what's keeping the audience from going beast mode on you the moment their party host is dead
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>>180703680
>artificial difficulty
Nothing artifical about it.

>miss around 3 of my hits while they hit my heroes each time when we all have the same amount of dodge
Maybe you should buff that Leper's ACC then. Nah, better to blame the game.

>>180703871
If there are other farmers that are under the exact same conditions that are not getting flooded by extended periods of time then yeah, those who do must be doing something wrong. Maybe they should consider flood control instead of crying about RNG.
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>>180703871
yes, because the dipshit farmers didn't build a seawall or stopbanks and likely didn't insure themselves, putting themselves at an unnecessary risk to reap more profits
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>>180704275
>>180704286
So then there's nothing wrong with changing the enemy crit chances to more reasonable numbers. You're just using the tools you have and building a stopbank to prevent or mitigate the chance of flooding happening again, bringing it to controllable and reasonable levels.
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>>180698045
>use finale on Giant Ectoplasm
>16 damage, minimal damage

>use finale on Fungal Scratcher under half health
>fucking 60 damage crit
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>>180704397
wrong again, faggot
there's plenty of skills and trinkets to mitigate enemy hit or even crit chance
but I guess your pea brain only takes skills into consideration that have a more immediate effect
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>>180704397
No, editing the files with external programs>>180704397
is not one of the tools the game gives you.

I hope you are just pretending to be retarded by this point, for your sake.
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>>180679431
>by throwing obscenely bullshit RNG into your face
It has less to do with the RNG and more to do with how the core game is designed that makes RNG elements seem so prominent.

If you are looking to get into the game just read the wiki and related materials because most of the difficulty is just a knowledge check, the tactics portion is not that strong. In some rpg games like FFT where you have a lot of options its fun to try and figure out them by yourself. DD wasn't one of those games for me so I didn't mind looking most things up and after a while it can become a bit too easy because its not really a "knowledge isn't good enough, you have to be able to execute and change up on the fly in the heat of battle" type game though its still fun in its own way.
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>>180704397
Use Crit Debuffs if you don't want to get critted you fucking idiot. The game isn't entirely a DPS, if you can't kill something in one hit or deal significant damage just debuff it.
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>>180704397
I didn't know bounding the laws of physics and being a God is one of the tools farmers have. Cool shit.
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>>180704505
Nice ad hom, and like I said before you can't mitigate 100% of the enemy's crit chance or resistances, and there's no such thing as skill in a game of chance where rng cannot be entirely controlled and there are things out of your control

It was nice to have a fair argument while it lasted I guess

>>180704572
>>180704745
Then neither is building the stopbank out of concrete or external materials a tool that nature gives you. Those building materials aren't found in the immediate surrounding area of their farm, so farmers shouldn't be allowed use them to build a stopbank according to that logic
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Suppose i want to face the fanatic, which would be the best party to beat him?
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>>180679431
>Ive enjoyed the game immensely up until this point and now I have zero desire to continue playing
Kek
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>>180704836
I'd imagine that the old Flagellant, Crusader, Occultist and Grave Robber wouldn't be too bad since you'll be getting thrown up into the front rows a lot trying to get rid of his massive wood
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>>180704803
>Then neither is building the stopbank out of concrete or external materials a tool that nature gives you.
We are not playing a game called "nature", we are playing a game called "reality".

Similiary the game we are discussing right now is "Darkest Dungeon", not fucking "Notepad". You're being retarded.

>inb4 ad hominem
I'm calling you a retard in addition to presenting arguments, not instead of presenting them. Retard.
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>>180704397

Is this the part where you tell us how not mad you are?
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>>180704803
what a disgunstingly stupid analogy, but I'll humor you one last time
if you build a character around a certain function against very strong enemies, say corrupted giant, it will work -every-single- time
the game gives you more than enough tools to counter everything
shuffles, stuns, debuffs, guarding, cures, knockbacks and pulls; either of those is sure to neuter an enemy, it's up to you to find out what is most effective against whom and in which dungeons
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>>180704803
>he actually convinced himself editing the game files is a part of the game
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>>180704803
>Those building materials aren't found in the immediate surrounding area of their farm
I was not aware soil and rock are some kind of rarity to you
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>>180705558
>soil and rock
>stopping a flood
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>>180705558
He probably tripped on a rock once and concluded they involve too much RNG.
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>>180705616
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levee
educate yourself, holy shit
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>>180705616
>I have no idea what I'm talking about but I'm going to talk anyways
Seems like a habit of yours.
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>>180705724
>implying a peasant can build one sufficient to stop a flood
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>>180705616
Yeah Anon, floods were literally unstopabble until we invented concrete.
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Crusader is a meme hero
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>>180706204
I don't think there are any meme heroes in DD. For the most part they did a good job balancing all the heroes. The highwayman is the only one who I feel is slightly weak.
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>>180706204
That's a funny way to spell Leper.

Leper is basically Crusader with a bit more HP/DMG but significantly less ACC and none of his utility.
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Good morning dadg
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>>180704803
>Nice ad hom, and like I said before you can't mitigate 100% of the enemy's crit chance or resistances, and there's no such thing as skill in a game of chance where rng cannot be entirely controlled and there are things out of your control

But you can you fucking idiot, there are skills that reduce enemy crit chance.
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>>180706446
You can debuff enemy resists or buff your chances of overcoming them, too.

I don't think there is a single stat you have no control over.
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>>180706204
speaketh that to mine visage and noth by carrier pigeon, heretic
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It's kind of shitty there's only two real healer classes, doing runs without healers is a massive gamble, and the game decides to not offer me any for weeks
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>>180706829
>needing healers to succeed
The Flagellant is a healer class too. Reclaim to regen other heroes while bringing your own HP down, then use your big heals when you're under 50% HP.
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>>180706829
It's 3 now that Flagellant exists.

Arbalest is a surprisingly effective healer too, especially with trinkets.
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>>180706979
Her heal stacks fast if you have to spend more than a turn to bring someone to their feet. Antis are also decent if you managed to find their healing trinkets.
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>>180706829
expand your horizon a bit
with the right trinkets, even the crusader can become a well rounded stress healer and HP healer
arbalest works wonders, especially paired with self heal abilities
if you take an extra stack of food on a short dungeon and a cure effect, going without any healer works aswell
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>>180706829
I have 4 vestals sitting in my roster at all times. Best hero in the game imo.
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>>180707162
Also camp healing abilities.

Arbalest's Triage with the quirk that improves camp heals can heal over 50% of HP to all heroes for only 3 respite points.
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>>180706829
If you have no healers you can either go stun heavy (this isn't as effective on higher difficulties), bring a lot more food, or hope you get lucky and get some trinkets good enough to strengthen the weaker healers.
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>play the game on both laptop and desktop
>get a party wipe on croc
>start playing on laptop
>the save on laptop is pre-party wipe
>upload it to steam
what have i done
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>>180707570
cheater
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>salacious diary
>"I fear the whispers of my mind!"

Vestal you sloot

Give in to the passion.
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>>180707252

Who needs the Vestal when the Flagellant and the Occultist can healbomb people into oblivion

>Isis man of health detonations
>bombheal your ally
>or
>fuck up a heal
>Flagellant transfers the bleed, gets low an healbomb you hero
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>>180665074
Hey anon, what program did you use for that?
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Leper is like thrice as good in the Prophet Match now that he can debuff any rank. Makes the end-part much easier now that you got another DPS attacking the Prophet once you bring down all the pews.
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I really dislike the infestation part of the Crimson Court. It drags out the game even further because you have to way until it reaches a certain level before you can fight the next boss in the court. Also some of the enemies from the court that you find in other areas are a big bowl of fuck you.
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I can actually kill him like this if it wasn't for the stress
So far he survived 8 Death's Doors
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>>180705978
>implying concrete stops them 100% of the time today
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>>180708321
forgot pic
Time to nope out
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>>180708184
How do you even get your infestation levels higher?

>inb4 spread the curse on more heroes
No. I did the 1st mission, only my Arbalest got infected and I don't want this shit on anyone else. 1 SPD for 10% HP is actually a pretty good deal for Arbalest.
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>>180708184
Between Cove and Ruins, which has the easiest bosses now?
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now it must be carried home
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>>180706204
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>>180708598
all are easy
>necromancer
spam zealous accusation/hew while PD uses stun/blight
>prophet
just curse him and he deals 0 damage
>Siren
what is holy water
>the crew
use a bounty hunter to pull the crew to the frontline so that anchorman just keeps passing as he can't do anything
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>>180669603
Not sure if you're still here m8, but I fixed crusader's combat idle. Just download the new version from the nexus
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>>180707570
you have become the ancestor, trampling on the laws on nature to further your own twisted desires
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>shag n'scoob have 29 dodge
>eat every attack head on
>bounty hunter has 12 dodge
>avoids everything thrown his way

k
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>>180708560
I think by doing runs.

>>180708748
>all are easy
Maybe easy is a bit too strong but they aren't that hard once you know whats up. In DD its best to think of bosses like a puzzle that you have to figure out.
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>>180708894
*snort*
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I have a choice between getting a Martyr's Seal or a Legendary Bracer. Which should I go for?
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>>180708748
didn't they buff the crew so that you can't move them or the anchorman after everybody exploited that strat?
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>buff leper's accuracy
>hits even less
>don't buff Reynauld
>hits everything for over 10 damage
>>180709141
Martyr's
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>>180709253
Thanks, time to meme it up soon with a Death's Door Flagellant build.
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Veteran dungeons are a cakewalk, but I feel like I abandon 50% of champion dungeons. Why this
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>>180709592
Difficulty spikes, bad matchups, bad RNG.

Skiver is almost enough to make me quit Warrens whenever I encounter one and Virago (best girl) is a huge pain in the ass unless you melt everything around her, corpses included.
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>>180707252
Vestal is completely lame and outclassed and anyone who uses her is a waifufag
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Antiquarian is fucking overpowered.
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>>180709683
The spike just feels very severe. I've seen people in here suggesting changing settings like crit chance but I'd rather not, I'd like to play the game as vanilla as possible. It's just annoying since the majority of my available quests are med or long champ.
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>>180709683
>Virago (best girl)
Why did they give her such insane stun resist?
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>>180709720
>outclassed
nah
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>>180707570

You've become >>180704397
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>>180709916
>thinking pure heals are better than someone who can heal well, as well as causing either bleed damage or marking targets/lowering dmg/shuffling the opponent

get a load of this scrub
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>>180709815
The RNG WILL fuck you up in champion dungeons. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. A lot of people end up scrubbing their way through because it is not even remotely easy sometimes; you'll lose your best characters out of the blue and eat crits and DoTs if you're not geared and quirked correctly.
>>180709861
Because she fucks wild dogs, mushroom zombies and slimes all day long, plus she eats brigands which are high in protein and has a happy little mushroom garden.
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>>180704397
>https://pastebin.com/70b4DBBZ
christ you faggot just install the No Enemy Crits Mod in this here pastebin and don't tell anyone here in the general and we can all live in peace. You don't need another faggot telling you it's fine, that's why modding is a thing
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>>180709814
*teleports behind riposted MaA*

psshh, nothin personnel goyim
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>>180710125
you'll lose your best characters out of the blue and eat crits and DoTs
>if you're not geared and quirked correctly.

isn't that.. the point? you should be learning how to play the game to get good enough to not have to blame rng.

savescumming doesn't sound like any sort of fun or accomplishment to me
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>>180709683
Or, you know, kill the Virago first.

Actually this applies to all champion exclusive enemies.
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>>180710554
I'm just saying that the RNG spikes will fuck you up. Sometimes perks and trinkets still aren't enough to save you from a slow, insidious killer.
>>180710604
I always seem to encounter my Viragos with parties that can't reach/nuke her within the first two or three turns.
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>>180710685
RNG has definitely fucked me up but i can usually recover enough to not lose a hero. abandoning sucks but it's usually better than trying to fight an outmatched battle. i don't believe in the "fuck your heroes let them die if they're too weak to survive champ level" thing. perhaps i get too invested in my roster but their longterm survival is my priority. a few of the characters i have are the very first that i ever got off the wagon of their class, still.
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About to fight the Viscount, got told you need heroes with riposte and dot is it true?
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>>180710685
>I'm just saying that the RNG spikes will fuck you up
But Anon, losing is part of the game. I think people should view this game as much a D&D campaign as a rogue-like.
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dlc worth it?
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>>180710870
>D&D campaign
I'm not sure that fits. in D&D you play as one player, there may or may not be some overarching goal, and characters in DD are a lot more expendable.
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>>180710036
She can deal damage and stun, along with having reliable, better heals. Occult (who I don't consider a healer at all) will just waste your turn and Flag can't do shit above 50. And they can only target one.
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not bad tbqh
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>flag and abo cant group without change
>theres a party name with both in it
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>>180711198
> in D&D you play as one player
You're the DM.
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>>180711750
I read that devs wanted to make religion quirk-based. It's possible they will make it quirk-based in an update.
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>>180711750
>>180711895
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>>180711895
Vestal's camping skills will be less shit if they fix this whole religious thing, so other classes can actually benefit from it
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>>180706829
>only two
Vestal
Occ
Crusader
Arbalest
Antiquarian
Flagellant

Granted only occ and vestal can work well without dedicated healing trinkets
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>First run in with the Templar in the second DD quest
>The realization that I have to fight four of these things, two of which will be at the same time
I think I'm about to be reminded.
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>>180710036
>He doesn't use profane scroll
who's the scrub now
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>>180712665
Rank 2 Vestal is pretty good now that they actually made Mace Bash sorta useful. It's still shit compared to Crusader's but what are you gonna do. Pair that with her other CC Trinket and you got a Battle Nun.
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>>180709814
Only when paired with a flagellant
>antiquarian in position 2 spamming protect me on pos 1 flagellant
>lmao healbombs/bleedbombs
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PRESS THIS ADVANTAGE

GIVE THEM NO QUARTER
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>>180712620
the 2 templar fight is actually the easiest if you just move them so they swap positions and can't use their strong abilities
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>your Flagellant can get this from flagellating
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>>180712576
>Granted only occ and vestal can work well without dedicated healing trinkets
flagellant heals plenty
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>tfw your veteran arbalest dies week one to an unknown ally
She was actually under siren song when I wiped, so I guess this is the default message
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>>180711750
Supposedly Faithless lets them party with him.
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>>180713497
>flagellating your flagellant
>not having him permanently rapturous
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>getting surprised all the fucking time for some reason
>hardly ever scouting

I keep my torch above 75, too. What the hell's going on?
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>siren keeps songing my houndmaster
>houndmaster keeps guarding the siren
FUCKING STOP
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE GUARD LEARNED
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Why do some portraits in the character list have a white border?
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>>180715098
Just found out. Idle ones get one resolve level.
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>>180715098
It's level based. 0 is grey, 1 and 2 are white, then it starts getting more colorful.
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>>180711895
that would be much better
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How to beat swamp monster in courtyard?
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>>180714538
It doesn't work. I wasted a thousand gold to test this, you're welcome.
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>>180715463
Arbalest, Bounty Hunter, MoA, Occultist should be able to do it pretty easily. If you stack +move on your Occultist, you can replace the MoA with any of the other frontliner classes. Same for BH; might not be too bad with Hellion using Iron Swan.
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>>180715463
you dont
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>>180715463
A P E X
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>>180715739
>Croc with a sliver of health
>Crits two of my remaining heroes
Fucking bullshit m8 , i tell ya.
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>>180707831
photosketcher, if you're still here.
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>>180715739
>croc
i thought it was a hog
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>>180716202
>hog
>it's literally named crocodilian
Are you dense, or?
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I started a new run and pest event keeps coming up. I am not sure I can still take on CC with my team of 2`s. What will happen if I don't burn thw hives.
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>>180716326
>named
theres a bestiary? pls no bully.

also
>havent played in ages
>bounty hunter now has new move "Caltrop"
what did this move replace?
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>>180716450
You'll be unable to make stress go down quickly and you'll have fewer positive town events. It's more a nuisance than anything else. I've heard people say that you can take it right from the first ruins mission, but that sounds fake to me. Granted, I'm a scrub who wiped twice against the croc, but I also only just started playing.
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>>180716612
You can hover over an enemy to see its name and any moves you've seen it do, along with things like HP and resistances.
I think caltrop replaced the hook move that did the same thing.
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>tfw I use the wiki to see which item on curios
What are some scrub things you do?
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>>180716850
I do the same thing, I've been playing the game for 45+ hours and I still forget sometimes.

I also edited to up the max hero limit, because if I'm at the point where I upgrade the stage coach fully I want to be able to have more heroes to play with.
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>>180716850
lose characters
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>>180716850
Is it scrubish to send suicide squads for 3k gold and a few trinkets?
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>>180717196
No. It just make you a heartless bastard.
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>that one faggot doing insane mental gymnastics to make an excuse for literally cheating in the game by changing rules and for being bad at video game

this is really fucking hilariously pathetic
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>>180716612
its his name

>>what did this move replace?
BH had a second hook attack that make enemies bleed i think, could be they just changed the name and visuals, i never used it myself
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Is it normal for found maps to sometimes not reveal anything? Found 2 in a row in those tent curios and nothing was revealed on the map both times
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>>180664784
How hard do you think Red Hook will nerf Flagellant? My bet is on that his bleed skills only can target the first two enemies and that his 50% heal gets less healing power overall. Atleast.
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>>180717196
Trouble yourself not with the cost of this crusade - its noble end affords you broad tolerance in your choice of means.
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my guys are leveling up too fast, send help
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Is it worth getting all those journal pages? or is it literally just lore that I can read on the internet.
Do you get something for getting all of them?
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>>180717879
There's no reason to collect them. They don't give you anything other than lore you can read on the internet. Throw them away immediately.
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>>180717879
i guess you might technically get more loot by taking them out of the item pool since they don't seem to repeat after you take a page
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>>180717879
When you get all the pages you get a trinket called Ancestors Journal (50% dmg vs Eldrich and +30%stress
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>>180717423
It's almost as pathetic as the people complaining about and modding off timed missions when XCOM 2 first released, since they can't just turtle and bait enemies into overwatch killzones every mission.
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FINALLY KILLED THAT CROCODILIAN FUCK AFTER SIX HOURS.
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Just got the DLC after beating the main game. Should I start a Bloodmoon run or should I play it on another Darkest so I can play it for the first time without the added pressure?
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>>180718278
Darkest. If you're not used to playing Stygian then Bloodmoon will be an exercise in frustration and restarting,
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>>180718278
normal mode first since you want to get a good feel for how you want to deal with the infection
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>>180718083
WTF I have all the journal pages and I have no such thing in my inventory
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>>180718278
I would say normal. I don't really get what people like in Stygian mode.
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How do you tell if you're doing the dlc?

I haven't noticed anything different so far.
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>>180718508
courtyard becomes available
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>>180718508
You get a town event about infestation levels, then shit will start getting real
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>>180718508
after your first few missions you will get a town event called "town a buzz" letting you know the CC is now available and lowering stress reduction activities, this event will happen every week unless something else takes priority

should say DLC enabled when you look at your save file in the main menu
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Breddy good.
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>>180718656
Does beating a courtyard mission remove the buzz? at least temporarily?
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>>180718808
Aunty Quarian runs are great.
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>>180718831
clearing the first quest removes it, but then the infection starts so CC enemies can appear in other areas and infect your heroes with the curse

once the infection level gets high enough you will get invitations to fight the boss and be hunted by the fanatic

boss invitations do not stack so you wont be able to use leftover ones for the next guy

killing a boss cures all cursed heroes

once all CC bosses are dead you can apparently cure the curse at the hamlet
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>armored heroes dont have prot
I mean come on...
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>dodge
>dodge
>dodge
>"Why do we tarry?"
>stress
>heart attack
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>>180719234
>master crafted plate armor has 0 prot
>fungal growths have 50% prot
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>>180719335
like poetry
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can't stabilize my economy

i guess its time to level an antiquarian
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i feel like there are way fewer short dungeons in the dlc
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>>180718493
You can't stall forever and actually have to plan things out instead of beating the game being a matter of time. Thus, completing it implies mastery over the game itself; you did it with limited resources and expenditure.

Not to say you can't play efficiently in Darkest, just that you are required to play efficiently in Bloodmoon. It's honestly not hard to have an almost fully upgraded blacksmith/guild/coach with 4-5 mostly upgraded teams by week 50 anyway.
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A hero class that takes up 2 spaces would be interesting.
Youre team would only get 3 turns (or 2 turns if you took 2 of them) but he'd be a heavy hitter
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Why is Quickdraw strictly worse than On Guard?
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>>180720565
What niche will he fulfill when there are already an assortment of single space tanks and damage dealers?
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the fuck is the point of this? they should make it actually useful by adding "move forward 3" to it.
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>mfw Antiquarian with kleptomaniac
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>>180720995
It's a damage and prot debuff that can hit all ranks, making leper more useful in bossfights
>>
I forgot how good of reaction images this game has.
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>>180720638
I have no idea what they were thinking with this one. They should have made On Guard at least +2 SPD. That being said, I have On Guard and Quickdraw on my Plague Doctor and it is a delicious combination. Back row stress dealers can't do shit.
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>>180721267
read carefully. it debuffs him. everything after "self" is for him
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>>180721318
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>>180721318
The entire artwork of the game is fantastic.
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>>180721438
Have you actually used the skill? It marks the Leper and applies the damage and prot debuff to the targeted enemy
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>>180721468
Why did they replace the old HWM art with pic related though.

It doesn't fit, at all.
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arbalest, abo, antiquarian are all kinda bad, well there are better alternatives at least desu
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>>180721489
I wouldve never used it if you didnt tell me. The usual format of ability descriptions is
>what it does to target
>"self"
>what it does to self
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>>180721717
>antiquarian
?

>abo
no you
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>>180721717
>arbalest
>bad
She's the absolute best boss killer, the best rank 3/4 damage dealer with mark synergy and the best non-dedicated healer. She also trivializes the Swine Prince.
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>>180721717
>>
So is position 2 Occultist actually viable or is it just a meme?
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>>180721925
im not baiting

why use abo? what for?

antiquarian is good for nothing but money but if you are good enough then you hardly need money runs

arbalest is absolute trash if shuffled, heal is negligible
she is ok against the shrieker but thats about it, as abo is good against the shambler but both have good alternatives
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>>180722003
viable with stab heal mark and stun, stacking lots of dodge on him works too and you can run him in position 1 as well
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>>180721821
I really don't get that one, I mean it doesnt't even stack, but then again death blow resist over 90% would be kind of retarded, they should just completely change the Flag trinket
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>>180722003
Viable but not great. The only reason to put him in rank 2 is to use his stun, but it has relatively low chance and depletes the torch.

He's still the best in rank 3 where he can use all his skills except the stun. Abyssal Artillery is only usable in ranks 3/4 and it's one of the best skills for killing the enemy backlines quickly.
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>>180722086
She's still the absolute most damage you can bring in slots 3-4, especially for a marking team, don't bring her if you know you'll get shuffled, but for lots of bosses she is pretty good
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>>180722092
> I mean it doesnt't even stack
But it does?

The base Deaths Door resist is 67%, max is 87%.
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>>180722092
They probably gave flagellant worthless trinkets on purpose because he's blatantly OP.
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>>180722086
abo shits out damage and has good self sustain, and his human form is useful with his stun and blight, so there's no need to transform every fight

auntie is good in riposte and blight parties since she can make force riposted heroes to guard her and her blight lowers enemy blight resistance on top of doing quite some blight DoT as well

Arbalest will shit out huge crits with good trinkets in a marking party, and you can always prepare for shuffling by using shufflers like GR, HWM or jesters, or stacking move resist on her
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>>180722003
He's fine if you need to run him there. His stun is good, especially when combined with the trinket, which also makes his debuffs pretty much always stick. I run Heal, Mark, Stun and either Stab or his damage debuff depending on the situation. As long as someone relatively bulky is in front of him, there's no problem.
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>>180722086
>arbalest is absolute trash if shuffled
>implying
She can do everything in ranks 3/4.

She can always go back to rank 3/4 in one turn if shuffled to 1/2.

She can use Blindfire in ranks 1/2 for a huge SPD bonus if hitting a random target is not an issue.

She's actually one of the better heroes when it comes to dealing with shuffles, not as good as dedicated shufflers like HWM or GR, but definetly better than a fucking Leper.

>heal is negligible
>4-5 heal and +38% heals received is negligible
It's great for taking people off deaths door and makes occultist heals so strong they can heal people from deaths door to full health without critting. It's the 4th best heal in the entire game.

>she is ok against the shrieker but thats about it
>who is the Swine Prince
You're just being retarded right now.
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>>180722086
Antiquarian is OP because if you are good you don't need a proper strength party to clear missions and having one instantly makes any run more profitable than full dark runs with zero risk.

Abo is a generally functional unit that becomes overstatted when you need it to, IE in fights that actually matter. Also has the best non-flagellant self-heal in the game.

Arbalest I mostly agree on. If she uses sniper shot on a marked target on a given turn, she's good. If she does literally anything else she's subpar. Turns out that Arbalest using sniper shot on a marked target is something that pretty much only happens in specific boss fights or against specific uncommon enemy spawns.
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>>180722937
An occultist or houndmaster with high speed will be able to mark a target before the arbalest moves, pretty much ensuring she obliterates it in one shot
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>>180722937
>>180722449
>>180722418
baited lmao

i still think that what i said is true, there is absolute no need for either of those classes and i can comfortably clear styngian or bloodmoon or the fuck you want to call it
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>>180723084
No one cares how big your dick is dude.
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>>180665263
Did replace every file and folder, but now my crimson court ambient sounds dont work. What's wrong?
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>>180723118
its pretty big tho
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The sets for the occultist, jester, leper, flagellant, grave robber (20% less hp doesn't make up for +3% crit), and the hellion are pretty underwhelming.
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>>180722937
>Turns out that Arbalest using sniper shot on a marked target is something that pretty much only happens in specific boss fights or against specific uncommon enemy spawns.
That's not true at all.

Marks are good against anything that needs more than 2 hits to die so most of the dangerous enemies in champion. They are also good against things that need 2 hits to die if one of the heroes cannot reach the rank the other can.

It's a very viable strategy to mark ranks 3/4 with a Bounty Hunter so the Arbalest can 1-shot them since Collect Bounty is limited to rank 1/2.

If you surprise enemies with Arbalest/Ocultist/Houndmaster/Bounty Hunter party you can reliably kill ranks 3/4 before they get a turn, either by marking with Occultist and Bounty Hunter or by using Abyssal Artillery+ Hounds Rush against the weaker enemy+ BH mark and Sniper Shot on the tougher one.

>>180723084
>i still think that what i said is true
>I still think Arbalest doesn't trivialize the Swine Prince
k
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>>180723232
>>I still think Arbalest doesn't trivialize the Swine Prince
i run warrens with pos1 any class then HM OCC and HM

absolutely no need for arbalest you can even boost class with that setup
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>>180723003
The fundamental problem with this reasoning is that marking something to kill it in one hit is rarely an optimal play. At the end of the day you're still committing two characters to kill something, which is a mediocre result.
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>>180723232
>it's a very viable strategy
Viable =/= good. Full mark parties are mediocre and them being mediocre is largely the fault of people trying to include Arbalest instead of a universally busted backliner like PD.
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how hard is the Baron quest?

can a bunch of level 4s deal with him?
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>>180723298
>absolutely no need for arbalest you can even boost class with that setup
I'm sure you have no need for her damage in apprentice. Give it time. Call me back when you make it to champion.

>>180723491
>universally busted backliner like PD
PD is not going to kill ranks 3/4 on turn one. She can stun them at best but killing is preferable.
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>>180723642
quest is LONG you wont clear it in 1 go, it saves your progress so you can return later

baron himself isn't very hard, but you must be patient
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>>180723131
I didn't alter anything that has to do with ambient
run localization.bat and check for game integrity
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Antiquarian is unironically good at the Baron fight.
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http://imgur.com/a/b8apt

the maps for all 4 CC missions

i guess the statue guy is something extra you can fight later?
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Abom just needs the right team comp to thrive. Pic related is a good one.
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>>180723232
I'm a shitter, how does arb trivialize swine prince?
oh wait is it the mark clearing
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>>180724151
Yes. Clears Wilbur's stuns as well.
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>occ can actually do everything he cares about in rank 2 except for abyssal artillery
what the heck
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>>180724307
>not caring about Daemon's Pull
That's the real trade-off there. But he can stun rank 3, so it's not too horrible of a trade.
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>>180724382
You can daemon's pull in rank 2, can't you? I thought it was 432.
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>Not clearing CC2 and CC3 in one session with Jester, Leper, Hellion and Occultist
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>>180723659
>PD is not going to kill ranks 3/4 on turn one
Neither is Arbalest without help. PD inherently puts the action economy into your favor by turning the first round into 3v2, allowing you to use 2 characters to kill an enemy immediately and 1v1 with another (negate their attack with healing, stun, or just outright kill them with something like Finale, all things that Arbalest incidentally can't do and BH/HM/OCC can) which makes turn 2 4v3 or better and snowballing even further in turns after that. Arbalest is just another character that benefits from action advantage while not actually helping create it like the other marking characters are capable of doing.
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>>180724115
yeah that apprentice dungeon is surely testing the comp and putting it to its limits
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>>180724438
No, you can't. It's only 43.
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>>180724631
You're a faggot, I was only showing the comp. Occultist stuns and marks, PD stuns back row and blights, Abom blights center row or Manacles, BH just does DPS. You can full stun everything turn 1, then with Stun Charm + Blasphemous Vial you can usually chain stun on turn 2 the back and kill most shit before it even hurts you. Maybe you'll have some trouble with bigger enemies, but that's easily solved with an Uppercut to the backrow for blight stacking through PD and Abom. The only place this comp wouldn't be too great is the Weald.
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>>180694924
m8 just get a fuckn bounty boi and crit that fag for 40 a round
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>skilled gambler perk
wat? you can win money of trinkets now?
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>>180724547
>Neither is Arbalest without help
PD is not capable of doing that even with help. The best she can do is deal 6 points of damage with blight.

>PD inherently puts the action economy into your favor by turning the first round into 3v2
Killing is more economical than stunning. There is no point in using stuns if you can kill instead except for when you want to stall, which you don't do until there are at least 2 weak enemies left.

> Arbalest is just another character that benefits from action advantage while not actually helping create it like the other marking characters are capable of doing.
What are you even talking about? No one is creating any "action advantages", marking teams are simply capable of killing the backline on turn 1 with high SPD/Ambush and Arbalest's damage contributes to that greatly. Something PD is not capable of doing.
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>>180724657
I guess it could've been changed in CC? But I can definitely use it in rank 2.
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>>180724307
The trade off is now he's more exposed. He's fucking squishy as fuck.
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>>180724003
That map is inaccurate, you fight the Garden Guardian instead of Crocodilian on CC4.
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>>180724948
I'm wrong. I dunno why I thought I couldn't use it in row 2.
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Damnit.

I wish this was more turn based.

I'm juggling 4 games here.
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>>180725070
What does it actually do? Can you kill it? Any special drops?
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got 'em

there are 395 party combo names
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>>180725096
>>I wish this was more turn based.
you mean your entire party taking a turn then the enemy or what?
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>>180725217
I alt tab, and come back to no torch.
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>>180725189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-e3ibeUaE
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>>180725256
torch only ticks down when you move, you could be extinguishing it by accident

>When entering a dungeon, light is set to the maximum level at 100 points, and will gradually deplete as the party enters rooms or corridor segments while traversing the map, at the rate of 1 unit when traversing explored segments and 6 units when exploring new areas (7 in Stygian Mode). It is possible to manually lower the light level partially or completely by interacting with the light meter itself.
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Hey lads. Anyone wanna help me with modding? I wanna try making a Vampire Courtesan class, but I keep getting errors with the idle skeleton.
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>Starting new game for Crimson Court
>Reynauld, 0 stress, walks out of the Old Road with Weak Grip on Life
.Dismas, who had around 12 stress, comes out with Cove Tactician and Weak Grip on Life
I didn't remind myself.
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>>180725256
You're, uh
probably hitting the hotkey to extinguish your torch
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common fuck you man
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Can you fight the same boss multiple times, or do they stay dead once they drop?
If the latter, can you reacquire a trophy you lose?
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>>180725858
you only fight each level of a boss once, so one apprentice necromancer, veteran and champion

as for recovering trophies i don't think its possible, but i could be wrong
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>>180725858
If you lose a trophy you get it back at the end of the week.
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How the fuck do I kill the countess with no deaths?

She's killed 6 of my characters now
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>26-42 Finale
>13.5% Crit
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Champion Ruins, JES, OCC, ABO, HEL, gotta blight them and stun for days ... no single skeleton, 4 fucking spawns of vampires with heavy stun and blight res, won all, party at full health coz occultist don't want to heal ... last corridor battle "meh I can take it without light, want this sweet loot"
2 mosquitos + dude with invite and mantis dude
kill mosquitos, dude with invite survive with lucky dodge, run and summon 2 more mosquitos, they all start critting my guys like crazy, over all only Hellion survived it but I finished quest

10/10 would remind myself again
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I keep thinking that a good sort of class for DAD would be a religious snake handler. He could have condition related attacks lik something that only works if he is blighted or bleeding or something.

There is probably a mod for that I haven't noticed, what do you think?
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>>180724778
(S N O R T)
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>>180726667
someday we gonna
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What's the curio interaction for the Forgotten Strongbox in Crimson Court? Or do I just open it?
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i kinda want all those trinkets

doshio
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does the jester still one shot enemies with finale in veteran and champion dungeons?
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>3rd mission
>Antiquarian, Occultist, Crusader, Leper
>1st fight
>Surprised
>Leper to Rank 4, Antiquarian to rank 1, Occultist to Rank 2
>spend 3 turns getting everybody in place so that they can actually attack
>meanwhile Occultist is eating 2 stress attacks a turn
>finally get the party in a configuration in which I can actually attack
>Eldritch Push on the leper
>Eldritch Pull on the Occultist
FUCKING CULTISTS
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what the fuck

they are in cove now
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>>180727745
>he didn't remind himself
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>>180727857
its okay they didnt curse me and i got out of the dungeon with like 15k gold

it was only a short low level run
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>Bring a party into the Ruins
>Oh, it's only week 3, it'll be fine.
>NOPE.jpg
>Leper surprised into position 4 two fights in a row
>Occultist absorbs stress like a fucking sponge
>Antiquarian is goddamned useless
>Crusader has to keep waving his banner around to keep people from stress testing
>3 out of 4 are Afflicted by the end of the second fucking fight
end me
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>>180728094
>>Leper surprised into position 4 two fights in a row
in a full torch mode?

that is a bit hard to believe
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>>180727745
>>180728059
they spawn everywhere
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>>180728094
Just believe RNG, it seems like sometimes game is going full "fuck you" mode and do everything to fuck up your run. And then next run game tries to apologize giving you free loot and big crits.
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>>180727745
I have to admit this is kind of stupid, especially when you're trying to do lower level runs with apprentice characters. The CC enemies are way stronger than anything else at their level, and sometimes you can get 4 packs in one dungeon.
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which districts do you guys start with?

i built the jester one because it allows me to one-shot everything with a level one finale without any items
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>>180728340
welp still

i did not torch styngian runs but that never happened to me

though i dont use leper and antiquarian
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>>180728347
I started playing without CC content enabled and the granary is by far super useful
>getting up to 12 free food per week
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>>180728347
I think vinter should always be your first building. The Crimson Curse can quickly get out of control if you put off doing the Baron, but the Vinter makes taking care of it trivial.

Other than that, I think Puppet Theatre and Cartographer are the best "general purpose" districts. The jester one is definitely the best class specific one.
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>>180728230
yep. Radiant light, shuffled into position 4. I got surprised again next fight, but it only put him into position 2 that time, though it still shuffled Antiquarian to rank 1 and Crusader to rank 2
>>180728306
the only good thing about it was the Occultist hitting max heals almost every time
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Why does this exist when Martyr's Seal exists? What the hell were they thinking?
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>>180728520
Stacking.

But yeah, its pretty underwhelming.
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I love you, Jester.
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>game crashed at viscount

AAAAAAAAAA
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>>180728598
Why would I stack that when I can stack this? I have no idea what they were thinking with this balancing. Not that Flagellant needs stronger tools or anything, but why make worthless >Very Rare trinkets?
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>>180728513
>The Crimson Curse can quickly get out of control if you put off doing the Baron
what do you mean?

baron is my next quest but i dont have a single character cursed yet
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>>180728834
I think trinkets overall need a bit of rework.
Most items garbage, some are fair and then there are some that are fucking crazy with zero drawback.
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>>180728094
in low levels antiquarian+highwayman trivialize the run pretty much
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catographer gives +10 dodge in +75 light, that is fucking huge desu
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>>180728710
>that Jester could do a 120 damage crit
Holy shit. What were they thinking giving Finale a 33% damage buff building?
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so eventually all my characters will get infected?
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Brigand 8 Pounder is offering the STONEWORK very rare this week, is it worth? How tough is the statue?
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>>180730609
So far I have only one infected character, it hasn't spread because I've been
>Firing any worthless seekers that get the curse
>Never letting my infected guy use a building at the same time as others

I kept the one infected Flagellant because his quirks make him worth the upkeep. Stress Faster and Clutch Hitter are great quirks for that class.
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>>180730609
I just throw all infected people at Vvulf
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>>180731320
but if i have no infected people then how can i complete the baron?
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>>180731590
I'm not to him yet, but I know for a fact that the global infection level goes up even if you keep your estate pure, I know someone got a baron invite with 0 infected characters

My estate just went up to medium and I'm still on 1.
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Is the game easier when doing torchless runs providing you have a few scouting items?
I mean you get more rewards quicker, so that should mean you power up faster, right?
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>>180730609
I think it only can spreads if characters share the same town building
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Red Hook should add dismissed characters to the graveyard.
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>>180731784
More or less, I wouldn't jump right into torchless when you're starting out because radiant light has that +dodge and ++++monsters surprised that really takes the edge off. This is by definition an easier fight. Once you understand how to build a party well and have some decent trinkets, torchless runs give you better returns to build up your hamlet faster.

Remember also that radiant light means a higher chance of scouting secret rooms. In the early game this means a chance at three extremely good trinkets, and after you have those it's 10500 gold every time you find it (three puzzling).

Of course as we all know, after a certain number of weeks (30-40), gold becomes a non-issue and you're only looking for heirlooms and good trinkets.
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how do you deal with your healer not coming on?
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>spend 5000 gold removing Kleptomaniac from Reynauld
>take him into my next Ruins run
>he rolls it again on the way out
GODAMMIT REYNAULD
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>>180731640
>I know someone got a baron invite with 0 infected characters
well i have no infected characters so i hope the invite will go on soon
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>>180732204
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>>180732204
A true zealous warrior.
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How would you make the bank worth it ? For now i found it to be the least powerful district
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Is it cheating to turn off mortality debuffs, retreat fail and never again in options? I also want an inventory increase mod but it feels like im cheating.
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>>180732883

Yes its cheating anon. Even worse than that anon who lower the enemy crit chance.
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>>180732856
It really depends. In Bloodmoon, you could probably get away with it after fully upgrading your guild and skimp on the coach upgrades. You would need to then prioritize the shit out of paintings and save up all your money in the meantime. This also hurts your economy in a lot of other ways as well as perhaps your general progression so I'm not quite sold on it in general. You probably want at least 250k before you bother with the building, though. It'd make up for you skimping on coach upgrades in like 2 months. So I really don't know about it.
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>>180731989
Nah, dismissed characters have a chance of turning up as corpses or enemies in dungeons.
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>he keeps getting away with it
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Best party/strategy to kill the Baron go!
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>>180733172
>have to go chase a party of dismissed heroes because they won't stop fucking with your shit because they're mad you gave them the boot
Sounds fun.
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>>180734184
He aint too hard.
Had no problems with the dungeon or the boss with Occ, BH, Fla, HWM
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>The abyss returns even the boldest gaze.
Never heard that line before, the quotes in this game are top tier. What are your favorite lines, /dadg/?
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>>180692724
I meant for the drink to have stimulants or rufees in them put by the plague doc.
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>>180734517
SOOTHED
SEDATED
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>>180734517
Did the voice actor forget how to do his voice?
Cause the new lines sound off. You can clearly make out whats new and old.
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>>180734517
something along the lines of

>A TIME TO PERFORM BEYOND ONES LIMITS
>+40% stun resistance
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Is locking quirks recommended?

Also, is there a way to increase the spawn rate of the Radiant update enemies (Bone Bearer, Virago, Skiver, Ghast)? Trying to get the achievement for killing them
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>>180734523

this general has the worst taste in pairings

>all these lesbians

as if there's not big muscular men with gigantic cocks standing around. thank god it's only here
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>>180735152
>Is locking quirks recommended
yes. but thats generally end game stuff
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>>180735152
Kind of. If you're unsure about good parties you will probably lose too many guys to make locking quirks worth it. Also, if you do decide to lock quirks, there is generally only a small pool depending on class that you actually want to lock.
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>>180735152
Just keep an eye out for the weald quest that makes them free. I almost never pay for quirk stuff
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Is the expansion patched yet?

And I wanna play stygian mode after completing the game once. Should I do that with the DLC or does it make that significantly harder?
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can the fanatic only attack you when its his week event? I've sent a ton of crimson curse guys out and haven't found him
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>>180735335
pls no bully, i just wanna lewd other girls
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>>180736026
Yes

>Does it make it harder?
Probably yes since it adds the risk of running into the fanatic, people dying from blood cravings, and the 'town abuzz' event potentially eating positive town events in your early game.

>>180736084
It seems so, yes. Which is good since there's a +fanatic item and how else would you know when to bring it?
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>>180736084
Nah he can attack at any moment after he's announced, he might not show up the very first week but he will depending on the amount of vampires in your party.

I hear having a full team of vampires guarantees his attack though, maybe that's worth a shot.

What I want to know is why he's standing in the center of town when he arrives, did we shoo the crazy old man out or did he just announce his presence and leave? why didn't he try to raze the town on suspicion of them harboring vampires?
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>>180716150
what settings did you use for it?
I have fotosketcher too, and my stuff always comes out looking like shit
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>>180734517
>Executed with impunity!
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>>180734517
BACK TO THE PIT.
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>>180724775
The comp is awful, occult in 2 is not realiable as a only healer because a single crit on him makes your pd busy getting him off deaths door.
Also your damage to backlines is abysmal and youll probably get raped in ruins too.
And that's not the''real comp for abom to thrive'' you could put occult in 3 and HM in 2 and itll be a 10 thousand times better comp.
Don't know why are you so angry if you don't know about the game passed veteran runs.
Did you expect people to pretend abom is not bad or what?
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Is scouting this many rooms decent for a 1st baron run? I'm thinking about regrouping, everyone i getting pretty stressed and there are no cocoons to burn in sight.
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>>180736891
You're about a third of the way done
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>>180736891
You still have a long ways to go, regroup when you're absolutely sure that you can't go further without risking death, and send them back in once they're relaxed
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what the fuck do the stonemason tools do

% damage vs stonework?
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>>180737216
they do % increased damage to stonework
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>>180737347
>gargoyles weren't changed to Stonework
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Is the first Courtyard intro mission and baron lvl0-3, viscount 3-4 and countess 5-6?

Not sure how to plan when I first enter the Courtyard
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>>180737569
you should mention that on their forums, they actually read them
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>>180737975
first is apprentice, baron is veteran, viscount is champ, and i assume countess is darkest
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Did anyone ever upload the Musketeer's CC trinket art for that guy to update his mod?
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>>180738117
nope, I'm still waiting on them
there's a backer who said he'd be able to this week though
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Is this a decent plan for full roster?
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>>180736891
is there anything up north from the second intersection?
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>>180738458
I had not realized how many classes there are. There's a lot.
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Is PD/Occ/Crusader/Hellion a good team comp for champion ruins? It's my first time there and tried to make the team as backline heavy as possible while being balanced
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>>180738458
2 jesters, 1 sader, 2 bh, 2 occultist, 2 maa, 3 hm, 1 pd, 2 vestal, 1 hellion

congrats, you have completed the game
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>when Divine Comfort crits the entire party for 14 each
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>>180737347
what enemies are stonework? apparently the only stone enemies (gargoyles) dont count
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>>180738606
>no arbalests
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>>180738581

Its not that bad, just remember to bring lots of food and items. Its those stress you should be worried about. The enemy dodge and crit chance is insane.
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>>180738860
fuck your arbalest
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>>180738606
>not running 4 jesters with that district
>FOUR FINALES
>FOUR
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>>180672260
>+10% Stress
Oh no. Such a downside.
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>>180673786
Either use online resources to prepare good parties with the right equipment (ex: Darkest Companion) or use strong generalist parties (ex: Vestal and Houndmaster) on short runs to discover the new issues you'll be dealing with. The "upgraded" versions of old bosses are fairly similar to the novice versions, but the new bosses will steamroll you if you aren't prepared.
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Can someone explain the Crimson Court story to me?
Full spoilers, im not buying this shit again
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>>180740168
you should its good
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>>180740168
Vampire tits
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>>180740168
the Ancestor was lewding it up with some nobles, he could have stopped them but since he is lewd to it would apparently make him a hypocrite or something. And then this really hot slut shows up and is all like
>oohh me wanna kissy kissy
but the ancestor has a really good, eldritch horror detector so he decides to stab the bitch, but she turns into a vampire and he is like
>fuck
and then he gave her blood to everyone, making everyone a vampire and ruining things even more

typical ancestor
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can you get shambler altar in short dungeons?
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>>180740168
Ancestor ruin everything again
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>>180740479
yes
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>>180740479
Yes
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>>180740465
>>180740696
I'm gonna be honest, i kinda want to party with the Ancestor because I'd know it would be fun up until he shanks/sacrifices/betrays me in general
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I'm stuck at Champion APEX anons. Luckily i was able to escape without any deaths but i just can't seem to deal with it.

>>180740479
yes
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I fucking love this pose when you attack him

spoilers for final boss
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>>180738784
Only the garden guardian (CC4 boss)
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>>180740771
>>180740720
>>180740849
thanks anons
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>>180664784
GR/arab/MaA/jester
Will they defeat the countess?
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>>180740868
:thinking:
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Quick question because i forgot :

Can you mark the brigand cannon ? also rate party for taking him, i'm a little short on LVL 1 heroes.
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>>180740868
really made me think.
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>>180741451
yes
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>>180741451
you posted the thumbnail

yes you can but its immune to other debuffs
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>>180740868
>What did they mean by this?
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>>180741451

fug, went inside the thumbnails for some reason
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>>180741606
that looks pretty shit

antiquarian wont be able to kill the dude that lights the cannon

iono, i'd bring something else
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>>180741606
Don't want to alarm you but there's a shitbird knocking on your door
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>>180741240
>grarabmaajester
why would i grab your jester?
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tier 2 shambler, should i try it with this?

seems impossible
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>>180741682

you know, you're right, i'm playing on Bloodlust and i don't want to have people die, i'll try it some other time, the bracer was cool though.

>>180741689
I noticed but I don't have LVL 5-6 heroes yet.
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So I just got the Crimson Court DLC today but prior to installing it, I actually placed my Ancestor's Pen on a mod class. After installing the DLC the mod class was nowhere to be found and so was my Ancestor's Pen. Any idea on how I could recover this? I'm not too sure if the trinket boss would have it since I don't think my hero "died" per se
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>>180742159
>you know, you're right, i'm playing on Bloodlust and i don't want to have people die, i'll try it some other time, the bracer was cool though.
just switch the antiquarian if you have literally anything else that can deal 8 damage
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>>180741908
>renting heroes like pawns never ever
>>
damn at week 35 i got a cursed BH

i was doing so well not getting any, oh well
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>>180742158
If your BH have mark it should be pretty easy. You have 4 stuns and good dps
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>>180742981
unfortunately i got screwed during a fight, maybe ill camp and try it, iono

so salty because of the curse
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>>180742484
>be Crusader
>hear about evil beyond reckoning in a hamlet far from the light of God
>decide to bring justice and hope where there is none
>finally arrive in a rainstorm in a shitty stagecoach
>step triumphantly into the mud, pose like a badass because i want to make the villagers feel safe
>some of them laugh, while others basically dont even look up
>confused, but suddenly grabbed by a cloaked figure
>this must be my new lord, the organizer of this crusader
>pulled into a bedroom, ordered to remove my armor and helm
>"W-what are we going to do on the bed m'lord?"
>get violently raped
>dismissed the next morning
>never even got to kill monsters
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>>180743092
That made me sad for some reason
>>
>>180743185
dont worry anon, it's just a story written by a Plague Doctor to fap to while resting in town
it never actually happened
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>>180742870
having vampires in moderation is nice though, I like to keep my cursed Bounty Hunter for the occasions where I can feed him some blood and give him a damage boost to his already good attacks
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Im about to start the Baron quest in the crimson court with a pimped out group of level 4's.
What chance of success do I have?
>>
>>180743416
but it does spread, doesnt it?
>>
>>180743602
I hear the Baron himself is a bit of a slouch, but getting to him is the real challenge
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About to go and try to kill the baron, how bad is he? Any tips against this monstrosity? Team is fully equipped with very rare trinkets and quirks. I feel confident in this team even if they get shuffled in the worst possible position.

>>180743602
Same, just I don't want to go blind.
>>
>>180743770
its overkill, you should be able to kill him with heroes ranged between level 4-5
>>
>>180743770
Why is the quest red on your screen but it says Veteran (Lvl 3)??
>>
>>180743915
blood court mission m8
everything is red
because blood
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>>180744048
Okay.. but you can still only take level 4 characters in there right?
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I knew this was a bad idea, but I didn't think it would be this bad
>>
>>180744202
rip
>>
>>180744202
>No Musketman/Arbalest, also know as boss killers, for maximum damage
>No Occultist/BH/Arb/HM to mark
>No MaA for that super OP bolster and rispote
>No Hellion for that iron swan

What a shitty team I can already tell this match will take forever.
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>>180744568
fuck you
turn 21
>>
>>180744202
If you wanna go mass crusaders you have to go 4 and spam the lance.
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damn i probably left around 45 crests, busts and lots of gold too

had to keep the bloods

welp, decent run nonetheless
>>
>>180744803
What do you need that much blood for?
>>
>>180744869
didnt save many because i had no cursed characters prior, got my first one so gotta get some

i have a feeling that its gonna spread really hard from now on because the infestations level became high
>>
>>180743770
>Only 4/28 champions on your roster
>5/9 weekly quests are champion tier
Quality
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>>180738686
this is the best i got so far
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this got nerfed right?

i don't recall it reducing twenty % of your hp
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>>180708894
>>180709057
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>>180745264
yes
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>>180677330
>hopeless
makes sense
>>
>>180738686
I'm slowly becoming convinced that divine comfort is better than divine grace. It's basically the goddamn best.
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>>180745273
>mfw leper with rabbies
I disagree
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>>180740465
>and then he gave her blood to everyone, making everyone a vampire and ruining things even more
the ancestor is just the best at choices, isn't he
>>
>>180745264
It was a ''just farm cove in champion until you're ready for dd when its useful as well'' must need trinket
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Why isn't my save deleted?
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>>180745818
i think i might still use it on a jester for cove or something
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>20 turns later
Who the FUCK thought ectoplasm was a good idea?
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>please use The Thirst: the enemy
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>>180745981
>not bringing someone with bleed to the weald
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>>180746125
>not bringing a PD with two +blight trinkets to every dungeon
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>>180746324
I prefer my graverobbers with 50% crit.
>>
>>180745183

I have another champion team and most of my heros are lvl4-5, have two parties in lvl 0-2. I am only using three parties right now because I don't want more cursed heroes.
>>
>>180746324
I just started playing the other day and only have 6 level 6, my highest PD is only 2 atm.
>>
>>180746514
What does that have to do with this?
>>
>>180745672
Lepers are too fun
>>
are antiquarians even useful for anything other than pitch black suicide runs?
>>
>>180746112
the bloodsucker bitch is worse in her normal state too.
>>
Don't collect call me or my wife's son ever again
>>
The swine god is bugged i swear.
He target whatever he wants, the marks dont even matter
>>
>>180747242
getting extra value out of blight and riposte teams
>>
>Jester, Flagellant, Houndmaster, Hellion, Plague Doctor and Vestal don't have their own comics yet
what did they mean by this?
>>
>>180718214
How bad, I've gotten almost every Cc trinket from farming it
>>
>>180748134
they said they're 'working on it'
NEW BREAD WHEN
>>
the unequip trinket thingy is bugged

doesnt show the pop up window
>>
>>180748182
>they are working on it
are they actually working on it or are they just RPing Valve?
>>
Please nerf the fanatic!
Yes, I know, the fanatic was already nerfed and now he is "ok" on the lower mission difficulties. But on the red missions he is still totally op.
I met him with a full level 6 group: Hellion, Crusader, Occultist and Highwayman, all armor level 5, weapons level 4, all skills maxed, all full trinkets and he just slaughters them with ease, meanwhile my heroes could only scratch him a bit.
He is way to tanky, have way to many attacks per round and the HPs of your heroes just melting way to fast when they burn - and focussing the pyre making no sense either, because he respawn instantly.
>>
So how many weeks and deaths do I have on Bloodmoon?
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>>180748369
Bimonthly anon, have patience
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>>180748824
>Bimonthly
http://www.darkestdungeon.com/darkest-dungeon-presents-the-occultist/
the last one was released on september 19th
>>
this is pretty shit mang

even low level dungeons have fucking mosquitoes everywhere

im getting cursed on level 1 characters and cannot even progress well, how do i stop this madness
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>>180749026
which is probably when they started working on the DLC.
>>
>>180747429
>wifes son is black

fucking lmao
>>
>>180749273
I guess you are right, the CC trinkets have some backstory for the characters in their description, so they just need to draw the thing and the artist was most likely busy drawing and designing the CC stuff
>>
The stonework boss is a cakewalk
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>>180748562

Guys, is it 100 weeks or 86?
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