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>ES and Life manifesto
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1899919
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu (embed)
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

Mayhem edition I guess, who's actually gonna play the 2week?
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anime
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a post with a cat picture
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>>180650612
Thanks for making a new thread, degenerate animeposter.
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what should i play for the 2week for maximum fun
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>>180411037
>FREE
>>180413946
>free
>>180414673
>free
>>180452515
>free
>>180452748
>free
>>180506431
>free
>>180525349
>free
>>180526803
>FREE
>>180527272
>free
>>180585976
>Free
>>180592893
>free
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Kirishima is best boy, Grapes a faggot.

>>180650943
>poe
>fun
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>>180650943
I'm going for a Frost Blades Raider
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so about the mayhem, can I win some stuff if I get level X even if I'm not first to do so? I'm not talking abouth the demi for first 100 in class.
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>>180651219
>The following prizes are available to players who meet specific level thresholds. These prizes are shared with the 2 Week Mayhem Event and 2 Week Mayhem HC Solo Event.:
>Level 30: 300x Beta Keys, 150x Ghostflame Footprints, 150x Seraph Footprints, 150x Lightning Footprints, 150x Ebony Footprints, 150x Gore Footprints.
>Level 50: 75x Arctic Skull, 75x Lightning Skull, 75x Gore Skull, 75x Ghostflame Skull, 75x Infernal Skull.
>Level 85: 75x Demon King Horns, 75x Raven Wings.
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Trying to decide between these two original builds that haven't been tried before: LA/BR and Warchief.

I think they'll work well with the changes GGG made, and kudos to Chris and co. for the meta shakeup.
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>>180651219
Yes. The MTX pool is split between all versions of the event. Demigod's items are not. So if you want one of those, your best bet is Saboteur/Ascendant in regular HC cause there will be some tryhards doing it in SSF HC.
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>tfw my mediocre crafts are selling like hotcakes cause nobodys selling anything in legacy
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>>180650612
Ahah! Epic thread OP xD "path of excrement" lmao!!
don't forget to complain when your shit thread dies because you didn't put the name of the game in the title (ehehe so redditttt amiright?)

FUKC REDDIT LOL
Excrement it is!!
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>>180651792
That's cause the playerbase is so heavily divided right now.
>Legacy
>Race events
>Burn out
>Beta
>>180651349
>The top level isn't more Tentacle wings like the 1-week Legacy
Well, that's good to see.
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>>180652019
I mean if you're searching Path of Exile and not /poeg/ you're probably from reddit in the first place.
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If you die to volatiles, you're shit.
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>>180652360
I just died to a volatile, so yeah, fuck you
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>>180652514
You're shit
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>>180652053

Im on a burnout since the beginning of Legacy league. I mean, i got to lvl 75 and then called it in. I cannot play this shit anymore.
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>>180653069
Yeah, it's pretty easy to burn out on Path of Exile. I've been taking it easy since I finished up with Legacy myself. A few races, gonna enjoy Mayhem for a while.
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>>180653069
Kinda same here. I toughed it out and got my 36 and i'm on a break ever since. Only did a couple of races for the box.
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0. SRS Champion
1. Flameblast Totem
2. Melee Ele Hit
3. Abberath's Fury Shield Charge

Asking once more before rolling. Recommend me a build for Mayhem.

Stupid responses encouraged.
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>>180653204
ele hit
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>>180653171
>>180653193

Idk what to do now... i have 2 weeks off work, the Legacy is still on, so i think i might try to get 36 before August.

Or i can just race... idk.
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>feels like an early 2000s game when actually playing the game
>diversity in builds mean "turn X move into a big AOE that you spam mindlessly"
>ginormous passive tree where the most of it is algebraic stat boosts nothing interesting
>no gear with interesting effects that play a huge role in skill management like D3
>has the shittiest melee-ranged balance in any current ARPG
>desync makes the competitive side of the game borderline useless
>didn't start having interesting boss encounters until it looked to D3 for inspiration
>shitty currency system only made manageable through buying a currency tab
>currency system still sucks after that because of low good item drop rates making this game focus on currency despite small stacks
>has less overall content than D3
>no simple way to inspect/look at ilvls for better trading and grouping
>xmog one time for $25 (skin transfer)
>SIX NEW ACTS means one new act and five repeat acts
>shit graphics
>Labs

What a shitty fucking game.
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>>180653204
comk frostbomb
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>>180653204
frost wall trap saboteur
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I'm playing Torchlight 2 while waiting for 3.0. Anyone remember how fun this game was?
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>>180653204
Penta-Flame-Dash-Totems.
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>>180653204
how the fuck do you expect to abberaths fury in a fresh league or am I being baited
>>180653958
no I can barely remember anything about that game because it was so boring and forgettable
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>>180654023
Meh, I thought the bosses were memorable. Big pillar dude was cool. Double giant gargoyle couple was fun as well.
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>>180653204
arc assassin mines
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>>180653958
I've been getting an itch to replay it if only for Uelmen's music desu.
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>>180654353
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>>180653204
Melee splash viper strike marauder
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>>180653958
I got a bunch of bargain bin shit during the Steam summer sale, ever since I got burned out on poe I've been going through my backlog playing old shit I missed. Really not in the mood to play until 3.0 drops, just want that first week of fresh league + new patch notes and changed meta.
Also, holy fuck Revengeance is so much goddamn fun, cant believe I didnt get it earlier.
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>>180653958
It kinda takes that middle ground between D3 and POE, but it seems that people would rather go full on exciting play like D3 or full on large customization like POE. I personally think Torchlight 2 is fun especially with the synergies mod that greatly opens up player options.
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>>180654417
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>>180653204
chaos tornado shot CI occultist
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>>180654353
anyone have this pic with the skeleton face
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>>180654663
Synergies is basically mandatory. Not being able to respec more than the three last points was cancer.
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>>180654805
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So...is there any reason at all to use Ancestral Protector over Ancestral Warchief? Warchief's damage scaling is higher while also covering a wider area per attack while Protector isn't even really AOE plus it's APS boost isn't even that high.
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>>180655194
Yes.
The levels prior to getting Warchief.
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>>180654983
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>>180655194
Protector's AS bonus is better than Warchief's damage bonus if you aren't using Warchief for damage.
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nvm found it
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>>180655374
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>>180653204

Nothing, because wasting 2 weeks on a race that's going to be voided is just stupid. And the 50/85 awards are shit-tier.
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>>180655357
>aren't using Warchief for damage
What else do you use it for?
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>>180656005
>void
Literally who cares about Standard/base Hardcore?
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>>180656005
Who cares all the time you have while alive will be voided in the end anyway
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so basically you win a ton of the same footprints?
i'll pass. races are boring. now home till sunday night anyway.

wondering what to do for 3.0 pretty neweish to game and only done ranger/raider so far but glad life will be better
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2 weeks is literally the same as a new league
who the fuck plays a league longer than 2 weeks or cares about where your currency tab goes after it ends
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Okay, /poeg, a serious question.

A famous streamer offers you to become his bitchboy in the upcoming 2 week race. You will have to do everything he asks in these 14 days, but if he wins you both will be famous and respected in poe community.
Would you accept his offer and if yes then from which streamer exactly (if you have a favorite)?

Hard mode: do not pick Mathil
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>>180656863
No, not at fucking all. I don't care who. Streamers are cancer and free Internet points don't interest me.
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why would anyone care about being famous or respected in any online community. let alone actually work for it jesus christ.
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i'd spend my free internet points on giant eagles i could ride around cyberspace on
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>>180656235
>Literally who cares about Standard/base Hardcore?

Well, I was actually contemplating to try hc league for the first time (outside of short races ofc) in a long race. So i'd like to keep the hc char even if he's only level 50. Fuck wasting 2 weeks and getting absolutely nothing.
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>>180656863
not even reddit respects streamers bitchboys
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of course they don't respect them
they are jealous, friendless neckbeards
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>>180657025
you can be a streamer like dismantle who barely plays and when he does just uses free shit given to him as he yells for donations and giveaways. even though he got rekt by GGG d can no longer give in game items
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>>180656863
>You will have to do everything he asks in these 14 days

What did he mean by this?
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>>180656863
i refuse to trade or associate with any streamer or streamer enabler because streamers have ruined poe
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>join a TEAM race
>become a member of an ELITE race crew
>finely tune your TEAM's race character through the acquisition of resources
>all of the lesser TEAMS(=1 lonely player) look down upon you
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WHATS A GOOD SSF SCION BUILD FOR MAYHEM

NO MEME REPLIES THANKS
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like if you have to ask you are going to lose 100%
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>>180657219

If your streamer loses then sure. But if he wins...

>>180657321

Only /poeg hates them and mostly because poeg doesn't really good players who would deserve such an offer in the first place. Top streamers would only chose the very best.
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>good scion
>ssf
>no memes
you first
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just go champion and leave scion to the pros who definitely won't die and give you a free win
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>Fuck wasting 2 weeks and getting absolutely nothing.

It's a video game, shithead. You get nothing either way.
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>>180659009
I never play my characters in standard anyway so I don't give a fuck about voided.
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imagine being so poisoned by utilitarianism that you can't appreciate that what you got was the real friends you made along the way
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>>180659251
>utilitarianism
You mean capitalism. If it has no tangible value, it's meaningless.
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>get to keep your char
>your char gets deleted

sure, """""get nothing either way""""", shithead
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Playing ASCENDANT in the 2week(e*)SSFHC

*ethical

btw beta is shit and 3.0 is shaping to become utterly shit i.e. grand spectrum changes, death to vaal skills (okay with vaal spark and fireball nerfs, but getting 260 souls to get 8 stacks to reave is grade A "GGG" fucking retarded measure), death to DoTs. And making Scion Great Again by making it only option what comes to choosing class thanks to 50% reduced reflect dmg and shoehorning meta to direct dmg "hit" builds.
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goodbye cancer
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>>180660112
>Vaal Reave
I was unaware of this change. Given Reave is already objectively worse than Lacerate, that seems like an extra stupid change to me.
>Scion is the only option
Endlessly lolling.
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sab mine build using either arc/frostbolt with MOM/acro

http://poeurl.com/blPD
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>>180660112
well tht reduced %50 ele reflect is awesome. i mentioned that the other month a few times saying that is how it should work. Odd how that worked out. Maybe they read me in global
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>>180657443
>i refuse to trade or associate with any streamer or streamer enabler because streamers have ruined poe

Success breeds jealousy.jpg

>>180657025
>free Internet points don't interest me

But if your team wins and you become famous you could start your own stream career one day. Just imagine - you'll be able to live your dream of playing your favorite game and getting paid for doing it. Instead of soulless wagecuckery or pointless neet-dom.
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>>180660351
>either (thing) with (thing)
Your grammar is atrocious. Proper sentence:
Saboteur mine build using either arc or frostbolt with Mind over Matter or Acrobatics.
>>180660421
I don't like popularity or people.
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what a coincidence that people don't like things they can't have
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>>180660421
>streamers have ruined poe
This is objectively true. The game back in Beta was shaping up to be a truly hardcore experience for ARPG fans. Then over the years, they do almost nothing but make changes to appeal to steamer-shits and their ravening horde of fans plus whiner casuals.
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i am a hardcore diablo clone player
i play the slot machine all day--neglecting all of my personal responsibilities for a +1 long sword
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>>180660791
Don't forget continue to make nothing but braindead new skills because they're revving up for the Xbox release which will be the final nail in the coffin.
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>>180660351
are you crit? you're half assing the crit
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>>180661026
crit gem + diamond flask is fine for crit
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>1-week race
>steel won a demi after dying at 98 and rerolling
>havoc won a demi after dying 3 times and rerolling with 2 days left
this is the state of competition in hc. if you don't die and aren't completely retarded you'll get your scion/saboteur demi.
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Does anybody even use Acro anymore?
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>>180661390
You can also do Deadeye. So few people actually play it when Pathfinder and Raider are usually better.
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>>180661390
The longer a race goes on the more it becomes about nolife poopsocking than it is about actual skill
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they have won because they can level faster than anyone else. They play for 14+ hours a day when pushing the ladder and are willing to take risks to get more xp. Try to "play it safe and not retarded" and you'll lag behind havoc even if he dies 10 times and your char will be alive.
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>>180661390
but playing poe is torture
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you are just testing the ability to not die from real world poor life choices in long races
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>>180661380
im talkin about your multi its really low
also you didnt pickup the +1 mine next to volatile mines

Are you gunna use the rod? ifso consider pathing more towards the templar for more crit / crit multi + life
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>>180661772
oh yeah i forgot it's completely impossible to reach 90+ in 5 days as scion unless you're havoc.
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can't wait to get flooded by all of those lvl 2 death messages
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>You playing PoE
A mindless shitcrow, cawing in anticipation of the latest mathil build
>Me playing PoE
A golden god radiating light from my body composed entirely of HC demis
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>>180660791
I can not agree with your opinion. Many streamers, ZiggyD excluded, speaks about GGG in very negative manner. What I do not agree with is that streamers are basically immune to bans, at best they get week or two timeout. On the other end players who are not streamers get permanently banned and GGG's support ignores to even give explanation why account was banned. Otherwise you are right.
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Streamers constantly cry about GGG following reddit groupthink for balance decisions and not them. Best thing is all streamers have different opinions about everything, so I have no fucking idea what they expect from GGG.
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>>180662373
While I do see your point on the first bit, I did not say the Streamers agreed with GGG, just that GGG pandered to them fucking endlessly.
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Are people really considering to go for demi against teams of streamers?
These people are nolife maniacs, who stay awake for days playing the game + they are supported by dedicated traders.
A lone player can't do shit against them, unless he's willing to go even further.

But for what? For a CHANCE to win a fucking demi? You can get some demi items as cheap as 5 ex on standard nowadays. Even if it's 300 ex for Demi Triumph it's just isn't worth it.

At least streamers are doing it for more viewers, more subs and money. So they are getting compensated for their effort. Wtf regular players are doing it for at this point? You ain't going to get shit and you'll waste a lot of time and be forced to sleep deprivation for 2 weeks. You have to be fucking insane to even consider doing that to yourself.

Maybe it made sense earlier when racers weren't in teams and it wasn't so competitive, but now? Why?!
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>>180662882
nah i just play for fun
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All streamers are going SSF, because they got butthurt about people calling them out for bitchboys. There will be less competition in normal HC than ever.
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smug making free wins
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hi vivi10
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>>180663497
PEPE
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Haven't played for a while, what's the go to leveling skill for 2.6.0? Need something to carry me for a while with no damage nodes.
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>>180663684
Ancestral Warchief Totems
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>>180663684
If Melee/Marauder in general, Ancestral Warchief.
If Bow, Shrapnel Shot into Tornado Feces/Quill Rain Explosive Arrow.
If Caster, Flame Totem, Fire Trap, and just whatever spell really.
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Haven't played in a long while, always wanted to try an EA build.
looking to play in the 2wk HC.

class? ascendancy?
can I level with it or do I need a leveling skill?
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Flame dash buff when?
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>>180665404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY8Q_XX1-mc
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>>180665404
you can level with it if you wanted, but it's easier to level with fb totems and switch when you get a kaoms. best ascendancy is personal preference, elementalist is a solid choice , probabaly the best choice if you are going hc for that reflect reduction
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>>180664153
Which one is best for a generic character? I'm starting as scion and won't get any damage nodes for a while
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what's a good ssf saboteur build for mayhem
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>>180666087
stormcall mines
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what's a good ssf deadeye build for mayhem
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>>180666595
stormcall arrows
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what's a good ssf hierophant build for mayhem
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>>180666784
stormcall totems
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>>180666784
Stormcall totems
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0. SRS Champion
1. Flameblast Totem
2. Elemental Hit
3. Abberath's Fury Shield Charge
4. Cast on Melee Kill Frost Bomb
5. Frost Wall Trap Saboteur
6. Flame Dash Penta-Totems
7. Assassin Arc Mines
8. Melee Splash Viper Strike Marauder
9. Chaos Torando Shot CI Occultist

First post to say SSF or HC picks my league.
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unironically what actually does happen when you put stormcall on totems? surely this is hidden meta.
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WIll summoners be any good for 3.0? I need a build and want something that can handle bosses better than my raider
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>>180667084
0 get
SSFHC btw
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>>180667084
ssf
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>>180667084
rolling ssf
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>>180667092
an unironically shit build since not only do you add a delay (totem placement + totem casting penalty) to a skill that's already hindered by delay, you also lose the focused targetting needed to nuke one rare surrounded by 30 whites
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>>180667084

>4. Cast on Melee Kill Frost Bomb

Ok, but what Melee Skill?

>ssfhc btw
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what's everyone's pre-race fuel?
milk and cereals here
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this looks fun

https://youtu.be/JoaV5wdtCms
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>>180667798
Don't forget to buy poe currency!
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yeah i love russian guides too
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how do i sell items in the 2 week

i don't have any cheater tabs
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The anime is stronk in this bread, christopher must have had to delay the 3.0 again again again.
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you must play ssf

non ssf is for cheaters and bitchboys
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Fuck 30 more minutes and i still dont have an ssf hc build to play, halp
no totems or traps
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srs
r
s
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I have like 7 reliq keys right now. Are they going to be worth a lot in standard or trash down the line?
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they're worth nothing right now
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yes everyone play ssf so i can win in merchant hardcore
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>20 strongboxes in twilight strand to begin with
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>>180669563
well i notice they dropped a little maybe i should djust run them all and collect my planks and wool shoes
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>>180665404

Do EA Hierophant with MoM and EB.
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what skill is good a cleaning breaches fast?
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>>180669286
be an unoriginal faggot like me and run flameblast elementalist (ran SRS in 1 week race, so fuck that)

NEVAH BIN DUN BEFO'
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scorching ray
definitely go that instead of something good
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>>180669987
but where's the fun in that anon, what about a ranger or anything else build?
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>>180668938
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poe is officially a p2w game
pay the bearded man or lose
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Friendly reminder:
>Everyone in SSFHC, HC, and SC will have the same variety instances
>So keep Global 2/820 open because until next hour, you may want to tread extra carefully/wait at some points to not rip
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well in case you failed to notice
in case you failed to see
this is my heart bleeding before you
this is me down on my knees
and these foolish games are tearing me apart
and your htoughtless words are breaking my heart
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back in 12 hours when i get bored of playing a shit character
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drank too much today and feel like throwing up :/
reminder to stay hydrated if you want to race
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starting to get afraid literally no one will play tradecore hc. like literally literally. there won't be any people to trade with.
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keep crying
that's a good way to garner sympathy
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>>180654263
>>180654419
UHH HEY WHO ARE U AND DONT COPY MY BUILDS THX
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>>180665984
Sunder is a fabulous melee skill if you're using the right weapon types (mace, axe, staff).

I think I might just do another incarnation of my Pillar of the Caged God build from 2.5 as my 3.0.0 league starter. Basically just stacking strength to power Geofri's Sanctuary, adding Shaper's Touch once it becomes available. The addition of Brutality and Chance to Bleed should help the damage quite a bit. Maybe run Gladiator (instead of a marauder) and make better use of the improved block rates on staves (although I wish the Gladiator minor nodes works on staves in addition to shields and dual wielding).

It ends up being a pretty comfy hybrid life/ES setup. It also lends itself to those Mind over Mater memes everyone seems to be going gaga over these days. Can add a Voll's Vision to really crank the ES regen, although at that point it's getting to be an awful lot of uniques, and resists start getting tricky without some GG jewelry.
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>haven't played poe since essence league
>decide to do a warmup league for 3.0
>see 2 week mayhem league
>"oh neat it's like a fun flashback league race"
>mfw i get to the first zone
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>>180673158
>20 Rogue Exiles in Coast
Kek. Go to Tidal Island, it's Invasion until next hour. Amazing EXP.
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is brutality still even worth using without chaos damage
it was pretty easy to swallow without elemental but chaos seems like a big potential damage loss without atziri's promise/sin's rebirth
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>>180675452
No, it's not worth it.
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>>180675452
It's okay, but much rather have another source of damage. Just pick up a Ming's.
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the novelty of having 20 exiles take turns to bang your asshole wears off after about 5 minutes

mayhem a shit
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page 10

when's the new league so I can get back in again and then dump it after 1 week?
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I want to play 3.0
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Life based ED, go scion?
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>>180680741
BUT ITS FUN, ANON
NOW EXCUSE ME WHILE I GET FACEFUCKED BY THIS HERE MOB WHICH HAS BEEN POSSESSED BY EVERY SPIRIT KNOWN TO MAN
BUT ITS FUN
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>tfw watching the "first to enter" messages and realizing you are getting lapped by these people
so this is what poopsocking looks like
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Currency should auto accumulate into "piles" that you only need to click once to pick up everything on the screen
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>>180688301
>opening up perandus coffers
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>>180687474
I dunno, i've seen people getting first to enter cruel areas at the start of a league even though the league has only been running for a couple of hours. Being able to do some amount of content in an hour isn't really poopsocking.
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>>180688710
yeah pereduns chests suck
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After reaching cruel I realized I picked hc instead of hc ssf. Great.

Well, time to sleep I guess
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>>180688301
>loot piles up
>one person in the group gets all the nice currency in one click
No
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>>180692295
>playing anything but perma

No.
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>>180692295
>>180692824
>playing with others
"No".
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>>180692824
>Play with short delay drops
>Become party leader for Zana rotation
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>>180692824
>playing with perma
>group mate is a screen away
>something you want drops allocated to then
>have to wait for them to leave the instance to pick up your loot
Why would you do this to yourself?
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all stash tabs on sale
this weekend only
and maybe next weekend too
and the weekend after that
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>>180692295
>playing in groups
Enjoy your 2 frames per second
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1. Part of me really wants to buy a currency tab right now. But at the same time I have only been playing the game for a couple weeks with one character I started with and another that's facerolling everything as Ancestral Warchief build. Is this game good? I miss it right now and I am out of state atm.

2. Also do you guys usually focus on more than one character at a time when not racing? The Vaal spark build looks really cool to me since it fits the Templar so well and I like general Templar lore, but it's expensive and with so little time left in 2.6 I feel that focusing on ancestral warchief guy might be best option.

3. One last thing about ES. So this nerf would reduce a crazy good ~22k ES into a ~14k ES, right? Even with 14k though isn't it good enough to still facetank everything in the game, still making it the superior choice?
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>>180698612
currency tab is a must man
same for div card and ess imo

also preumiums for poe.trade. i know it makes the game feel not free. but they truly help
not into racing but i normally stick with same char most part unless they fail
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>>180698935
Dunno about the essence one, especially since they'll be even rarer without the leaguestones. Although i have a feeling they'll have it as a Zana mod next league.
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>>180698612
If you haven't bought anything before, and you think that you'll play this game for more than 100 hours, get a currency tab ($6) and a premium tab upgrade ($1) no matter what, then any combination of an essence tab ($3), divination card tab ($4), regular tabs ($2 or 6 for $11) with the remaining points. Avoid the essence and div card tabs unless you plan on playing a lot more than 100 hours.
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>>180698935
>>180699905
Thanks for the advice, guys. Will probs pick up Currency and one premium upgrade once I get back home from this trip. Although I am wondering like that other guy if essence will come in handy after this league at all since it seems that leagues historically change it up a lot except the current one.
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>try to put together a non-crit slayer
>basically lucky if I can break 50k dps
if you're build isn't crit it's shit
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Oh and one last curiosity. Not having reached endgame yet, all 51 of my chaos I have gotten is through trading away Alt, Alch, Fusing, and Scouring orbs. What would someone with a seemingly endless supply of chaos orbs want so many of these lower level orbs.
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>>180700482
yeah maybe not ess but the div card i a big hep too imo. I guess I am still in 2.6 era
>>
crafting
slamming maps
deleveling gems with scours
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>>180700482
You have to buy the points in $5, $10, or $20 increments.
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>>180700696
>alts
Not everything is rear or desirable rear. Flasks and crafting for example
>alch
You need an item to be rear to use chaos
>fuse
You can't link items with chaos
>scour
You want items white sometimes. Crafting or taking away undesirable magic or rear stats
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Thanks for the answers everyone! Ya know, /poeg/'s kinda cute in its own weird way where you guys are shitting on the game most of the time but are always willing to answer my noobish questions. Much love, and goodnight.
>>
fuck off
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>>180700689
lol?
>>
are there changes to old skill gems in 3.0?
>>
Do I still need to completely cap my resistances if I'm playing PF and always have up my dying sun, vinktar's, promise, and taste of hate?
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>>180705532
And that's why I use raider. I do not like to hve to click 5 flasks all the time to be good. I prefer my normal quick 1-3
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Scourings should be removed, debate me.
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I'm going to win a scion demi!
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>>180650612
>tfw you are in the pic
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hey faggoats pick my build for leveling to 85 in the two weeker
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>>180711561

1. Flameblast Totem see >>180667084
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>>180710059
So a useless cock-sucker? Congrats.
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I'm gonna take my dog out for a walk and by the time I get back I expect one of you to convince me whether to casually play 2 Week Mayhem or not. Is it any more fun than legacy?
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>>180718432
why dont you
T
R
Y
it and decide for yourself?
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>>180718432
>fun

see >>180680741 and >>180687221
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groups of invaders are more annoying since they take up more space on average, have more life, and drop shittier loot
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someone drop an inv to the discord
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https://discord.gg/Vpa76H
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>poeg says melee is shit
>several of the top spots in the mayhem race are melee
really makes you think
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>scion is a pure
>scion is a love
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no no when melee skills are good they aren't melee skills
melee skills are only glacial hammer, doublestrike, etc
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>>180722146
>Post a picture of some random anime bimbo who has the same hair color
>Claim its a completely different character

why are animeposters so retarded
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>>180722146
word
+1
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>>180723018
says the cat poster.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6PM3foYVic
>he underestimated Orra Greenfuck
>>
>ES nerfed
>Life buffed
>CI builds still have twice as much HP as Life builds
>evasion and armor still useless

great job
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>>180650612
OP do you have that Rin ahegao pic? or anyone else here?
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ssfhc btw
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is Oro Flicker Strike still an ok build?

Don't really want to play Terminus Est
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What the fuck is going on with the servers.
I'm getting massive lag on killing any mobs.
I almost died.
>>
what the fuck levelling/playing through story is so shit any time past the first. why do I have to do this every time I just want to get to level 70 so i can actually use my build
>>
your welcome to continue playing the same character in a dumpster league forever
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>everyone playing EK in SSF have somehow found the jewel during leveling
i've gone full leagues without finding specific tier10 uniques even. and people say streamer rng aren't rigged for publicity.
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>>180727904

Blame GGG for shit gameplay design. Builds should be good/viable from the very beginning... like EA usable from lvl 28.

Blame GGG for itemisation and shit balance.
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>>180701017
>rear

poeg education everyone
>>
sorry he meant roar popo
>>
8k Life with cast on death detonate dead + some "more" support. Will my corpse detonate and one shot guardians / shaper?
>>
are they gonna delete stash items also or just the chars when they introduce act 8
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>>180730071
chars only brosef
>>
yes your insignificant life pool will kill shaper
>>
300ms latency spikes :/
>>
What's a good low-life occultist build that isn't ED?

Some kind of mine build perhaps?
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>>180698538
Get yourself a better pc, hobo.
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>>180730121
a lie
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>>180726915
oro flicker should actually be stronger than before, looking at the numbers
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Rolled an arc mtx effect from a free chest I got a while back, someone please explain how stupid I am for wanting to make an arc totem character for 3.0 now.

Really I just prefer totem or traps over selfcast because fuck reflect. Mines are no-go, the mechanics are pure aids.
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>>180728889

They are rigged for publicity. The whole thing is rigged. The only winning move is not to play.
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what do i listen to as i level?? podcasts music talks/speeches all appreciated
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SMALL INDIE COMPANY
STOP COMPLAINING
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mayhem a shit
>>
ggg's going to release some good info about 3.0 next week, right?
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>>180733801
hardcore history, ww1 series

you're welcome
>>
best spell to put in deerstalkers for single target when you only got ele/spell nodes?
>>
ball lightning
>>
that doesn't sound like the best choice, but at least the colors should be easy
>>
vortex maybe
>>
crit cold snap
>>
>19 hours in
>ziz has 7.5k ES, 5-link regalia, eye of chayula, capped resists
>ssf
hmm
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>>180731048
This old toaster can play pirated AAA games on a nice stable 90 fps
But as soon as I join someone else's instance in poe I lose all frames
This game must be incredibly poorly optimized because it looks like a ps1 game but it's somehow more cpu intensive than the witcher 3? Is it just me because this game is not fun enough to play alone and I can't play it at all with friends
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>>180740578
u jelly?
>>
i'm suspicious
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>>180740578
it's a simple solution

just become a popular(tm) streamer of POE and you too can enjoy the benefits of manually tweaked promotional droprates!
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>>180740578

Reading and seeing shit like this makes me want to quit for good.
>>
>sit alone in a room playing video game for 20 hours a day
>acquire digital loot

I smell a conspiracy
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>lol streamers are all shit and carried by handouts/bitchboys
>lol they just have ggg give them much higher drops in ssf

poegtards everyone
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>>180742880
to a certain extent I agree there's too much tinfoilhattery in general, but come the fuck on

"lol it's just luck bro" can only explain so much

true RNG does not result in the patterns we consistently see
>>
>I don't understand probability.

First world education.
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>true rng
glad to know everyone else is using fake rng
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>>180743831
>>180743584
>intentional ignorance

"Real" RNG is the base version that normal players get. It's become increasingly obvious over time that popular streamers get their own version of RNG (with less randomness) to keep them happy and playing, drawing more attention and players to the game.

It's also likely that employees have their own RNG system as well to test/play internally with.

This shit isn't rocket science.
>>
You can't handle grade school probabilities. Let's not get ahead of ourselves with rocket science, pal.
>>
there is no such thing as RNG
if it were, I would have a differently sized penis every time I pulled down my pants, but no it's the same tiny shriveled pecker each time
>>
>>180744801
>>180745573
>behavior fagging
you look like preschoolers trying to fit in, if I were you I would probably just give up and kill myself.
>>
you're trying way too hard to sound smarter than a bunch of preschoolers mate
>>
when does the new update release
>>
>>180747576
When 3.0 hit, the true old fags of poeg, the ones that made this general so great and insightful, with its abundance of clever and funny meme, they will come back; and those little reddit discord fuckers with their shitty community rules and noreply, nobraincells posting will go back from where they came.
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>>180748729
>leddit discord
>noreply

is that what this retarded bullshit is all from? jesus fuck
>>
nice servers
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>>180747576
>>behavior fagging
what even is that retard
>>
Mayhem is fun with RF Totems.
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>Mayhem is fun
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>>180740578
>>180743481
>>180744662
You all realize this is something you can imperially show, right? Just count the amount of uniques/high currency that drops and divide it by the amount of areas the streamer clears. This isn't rock science. My taller ants is running out with your altitudes.
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>>180750810

You're a funny guy, Sully.
>>
>find untainted paradise while it has breaches
>win race
nice
>>
>Some red nigger exile jumps on me in normal act 2
>Walk two feet and lose 1k hp instantly from bleed

oh
>>
>playing glad
>doing haku mission
>dark area
>so many things being blocked at once
>+300%ms
>can't see whats happening, too fast
is there an upper limit tho
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How bad are shockwave totems nowadays, compared to something like rf totems?
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>>180755673
I saw a pretty silly video a while back of a dude training every mob in dried lake into one spot and getting up to 700-some stacks of violent retaliation. So there does not appear to be a hard limit.
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how do we make bleed not shit
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>>180755291
use anti-bleed
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(^:
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lmao just log out
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>>180760079
just dont get hit whats the issue

are you playing melee or something lul
>>
should probably get better damage so you kill him first next time
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>>180760079
10 GHOSTS?
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>people were seriously arguing that mayhem shouldn't be voided
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>>180762609

>voided

it should be rolled into the normal game, vanilla poe is fucking boring
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I just can't do it. There is no way I can play through the same 4 acts three times and do all the Ascendacy trials again.

See you whe the beta arrives
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>>180762609
it shouldnt.
Base league economy is and forever will be, trash.
>>
>>180765329
rofl
beta is literally the same
except the bosses have a model swap
>>
Just starting mayhem 1week race, never played a true blade flurry build before. Wanna give it a try before doubledipping really dies, is shadow best starter class for it? going assassin?

probably going to do SSF if that would change anything
>>
>>180765829
not him but what are they replacing the bandits with for those extra stats? are there any interesting quests or rewards?
>>
Wait so if I'm reading the life/ES "manifesto" these changes won't affect items that are already in the game? Everyone is just going to buy up or craft OP energy shield equipment now and hold onto it forever.
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>>180767918
no one plays standard bruh
>>
>>180767918
uhhhh
but then you start from scratch in a new league
>>
>>180768025
Same applies to hardcore though, right?
>>
>>180768025
>>180768117
But what if I work a lot and I don't have the time to constantly start over? Am I just gimped forever?
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>>180768320
quit ur job so you can play more POE
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>>180768168
standard as in the permanent no new gimmicks league
>>180768320
no you just have to play life MoM now
>>
>>180768320
>constantly

leagues last for months and they get boring as fuck why would you constantly start over
>>
POE makes me snoozy holy shit
>>
>>180748729
>will come back
nope
>>
Odds I play immolation arrow bowazon in diablo 2
Evens I buy myself a fuckton of regrets on standard and try out this stupid build I'm thinking of
Zero I'll play some other game
Doubles I be productive
>>
just found a shavs whats the best build i can mess with without investing a whole lot?
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>>180775669
pvp
>>
>>180742880
When I first started seeing people saying that shit I laughed at them, but now that I know there are such things as ''flagged accounts'' that get like 100% less rarity or some shit, I can believe there are some kind of RNG manipulations that GGG does for some people
>>
OOOH, THE WEARY TRAVELER DRAW CLOSE TO THE END OF THE PATH
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>>180777629
Elaborate/give links about flagged accounts please.
>>
Why doesn't the logout script work for me? I see streamers logging out at 1hp all the fucking time and it never fails. If I log out from any situation I'd die in 5-10 seconds even, I can't log back in until my characters dead. Logging out is instant, but logging back always takes as long as it takes for my character to die. I'd be perfectly fine with this it that was the 'rule' for everyone, but streamers keep fucking abusing it and I can't.
>>
would poe be more fun if you could change a character once a week or something to another class of the same level? I love diablo games but holy fuck regrinding every time to try out new characters is just so brutal that I havent done more than 4 so far and I cant bring myself to play more even though I have two legacy taste of hates (one found, one bought for like 1ex from a noob, both right before the legacy announcement) that apparently I can sell for a nice amount of ex to gear myself up. every time I see the game I feel like just playing modded Torchlight 2 instead since I can power past grind and play the fun parts of the game asap.
>>
No. If 'regrinding' for a couple hours is 'brutal,' then go play something else.
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I died in mayhem :/ don't even feel like rerolling tbqh...
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>>180780465
>getting to (near) endgame when you actually have an at least mostly complete build
>a couple hours
>>
You get a free reroll every 3 months or so
It takes ~8 hours to get to maps
>>
You can get any build running before maps. Seek instant gratification elsewhere.
>>
Welp, ES is gutted in 3.0. I know you guys know this, but i just wanted to say this myself. I spent some time in path of Building working with items... meh. ES is gonna be shit.

Yet fuckers did not nerf Vaal Pact.
>>
vaal pact only made sense when it was the left side of the tree with only 33% leech effectiveness and no regen desu
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>>180777629
>flagged accounts

We all know about streamer "luck", but you gotta give sauce for claims of negative RNG.
>>
Who else looking forward to good es gear for cheap next league
>>
>>180783613

I am the sauce. For all 4k hours that i spent playing, the sole T1 drop was post-nerf Soul Taker. And 15 exalts total.
>>
We all know about streamer "luck"

yea that it doesn't exist, they just play a lot
>>
>>180783942
Occultist ED is gonna be pretty baller again.

Ez to gear, great damage, high survivability, passable clearing. Gonna be a good non-clear speed farmer again.

>>180784003
Streamer luck is their 'bro deals' which essentially amount to people giving them hundreds of chaos every day for nothing and letting them buy their items for 1/3rd their usual value.

They also tend to associate with RMTers.
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I just want to play melee, am I fucked in this race?
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>>180784345
>They also tend to associate with RMTers.
>They also tend to associate with RMTers.
>They also tend to associate with RMTers.
>They also tend to associate with RMTers.
>They also tend to associate with RMTers.
>They also tend to associate with RMTers.
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>>180783981
At this point making a new account would be efficient for 3.0, unless majority of that time was spent afk in town.
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>>180784345
which streamers take handouts?
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>>180784345
>Playing ED
>Ever
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>>180784554

I think ill make a new account.

And no, i dont afk for longer than it takes to answer the phone, hang out laundry, make tea or take a leak.
>>
Someone remind them
>>
>>180783981
Yeah but what's your clear speed? I bet you play single target melee.
>>
I bet GGG has a feature where they can look up accounts linked to twitch and their twitch views for major players and start bumping their RNG rates to make it more entertaining for their reddit friends when they 'X gets 4 6Ls in Y fusings' or something like that
>>
Is EK gonna be nerfed or what? Only change is that people are going to play it as life.
>>
recaptcha ruins all the fun in shitposting

basically fuck 4chan
>>
I have seen popular streamers spend several chaos rolling flasks. I would say they turn it down if anything. Seeing those reactions increases views
>>
Why are there no flask nodes on the left side of the tree

I mean, I know they're trying to make the regions specialised, and the left being regen, bottom being leech and right being flasks. But there's still 2/4 major/minor regen nodes on the right
>>
>>180789590
Skill tree shouldn't even have flask nodes it's bullshit.
>>
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbuLBy-WLkg&t=18m20s
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>>180789669
This man speaks the truth. +50% effectiveness of flasks for PFs is the stupidest shit.
>>
>>180789590
Closest ones are to the right above duelist on the way to scion start aren't they? Then there is a fair few by ranger. And the ones at witch
>>180789669
This, I don't mind the witch ones because summoners really can use then for the intended use
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQppLv-z1o
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>>180793157
wow it's nothing
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>>180793157
Does this mean CoC will go back to how it was?
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>>180793157
>Show off a CoC Cospri's Malice build in both 2.6 and 3.0
>Struggles to clear trash mobs with more than 0 health
Wow. Great build to show off. Should've done any number of CWDT Berserker setups.
>>
I dont understand the GPU part. So theyre making everything look worse and lowering the resolution/how good everything looks to keep up FPS?
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>>180794965
That's a good thing. The game looks like shit no matter what.
>>180794578
No not at all.
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>>180794810
>99 Skill Points available
>>
>>180795168
>Wonder what the fuck this Laytonposter means
>Check video again
>96 unallocated Skill Points in 2.6 with 3 Dying Sun and a Small Life and Mana flask
>99 in 3.0 with 3 Dying Sun
>Also has Headhunter effects
>HP and Mana never drop
I get the focus is to emphasize performance, but they need to consider that this is an unrealistic example.
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>>180796172
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>>180798753
wow im really gonna like the new GPU improvements. cant fix their fucking game so they kill the graphics to componsate

small indie company.
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>>180798898
MICROSCOPIC indie dev company.
>>
>>180796172
>>180798753
>>180798972
This isn't funny.
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>>180799515
t. jonathan "fat fuck" rogers
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>>180799515
I'm not even the first poster.
>>
>cant fix their fucking game so they kill the graphics to componsate

How would you improve the framerate without lowering quality?
>>
Mathil is level 75 in the 2WSSFHC race
what's your excuse for not being above him?
>>
I don't play bad patches
>>
>Completely rework the DoT system
>probably cause a month or more of delays
>When they could just cap DoTs at Hit*DoT effects
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>How would you improve the framerate without lowering quality?

By having a decent engine in the first place without spaghetti code
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>high impact spaghetti leaks
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why is there no fire to chaos gem
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Because use the knives like everyone else.
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>chaos conversion
perandus league called, it wanted its memes back
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>we can't fix our game so we'll lower your resolution

BRILLIANT
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>>180803003
Because Firestorm Mines were so insanely strong for a while Only for Atziri and Uber Atziri farming unlike far stronger overall builds that didn't see nearly the rape this got that GGG deemed it unacceptable.
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>firestorm mines
>not vms
nigga u serious?
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>>180803172
what
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>>180804369
game lowers rendering resolution to compensate for fps dips (thus increasing fps momentarily)
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>>180804685
thats retarded lol
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Why do people insist on using pierce in ED if they use contagion to spread it to a much larger area than the projectile would cover anyway?
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>enter a map with burning ground
>now playing at 640 x 480
now i can get the true diablo 2 feeling
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>>180805458
>Pierce and Contagion
Said no build ever.
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>>180805458
It's hard to hit invulnerable aura mobs through a large pack, but ED is trash and should never be used, unless you hate your life even more.
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>>180805871
https://youtu.be/MPgkE_4dztk
https://youtu.be/X7Ey_iJfJR0
Sure thing dude.
>>180805915
This makes sense though.
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So where exactly do I create my shop thread for the mayhem race?
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>Make a life build
>more on travel nodes than nodes
How is this defendable

>life
100 sets of 3-4 nodes
>ES
3 sets of 7+ nodes
why is this allowed
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>>180807361
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>>180807412
what's his endgame?
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He just wants to make the game hard again
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>gaming in 2017
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>>180810848
This has to be easy difficulty or the tutorial encounter, i recall this game forcing me to pay atention despite overwhelming boredom when i played it.
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>he bought a batman game
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I didn't though, beat it on friends console.
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>console
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>>180801707
They shouldve coded the game in Java cause thanks to the garbage collector you dont have to worry about optimization.
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>>180813079
What sort of dumbass post is this? Honestly, what?
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/dag/ told me to come here. What do?
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hows your mayhem going
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>log in
>realm is restarting in 10 seconds
thanks chris
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to achieve acceptable performance we dynamically scale backthe resolution to 64x36 for poe 3.0 whenever a skill is used
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>>180814105
Was that loot acquired in an ethical way? (Solo league)
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Why doesn't currency tab store perandus shekels?
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>>180814705

>he doesn't own the Premium Perandus Stash Tab
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they should sell a golden stash tab for perandus coins on 4/1 and pretend it's a joke while actually selling it
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>>180801707
>How would you improve the framerate without lowering quality?

Change the engine, or hire competent programmers.
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>>180742880
Only solo self found streamers are ethical, playing the game in an ethical way.

It's simply unethical to trade.
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>>180814587
>ssf

lol
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Long fuckin time D2 vet finally delving into this game, I'm so fucking overwhelmed LOL.

So far I've been following some guide for a Templar my buddy showed me thats easy for a beginner, is Molten strike legit for the first while of the game?

Also.. like should I always be leveling gems and shit, this is one thing I don't understand.
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>>180742880

here's a fun experiment YOU can do

level a character in legacy right now, from 1 to merc dried lake. put all uniques and currency that drop in a single tab, and don't use any of them.

then, when 3.0 comes out, do the exact same thing on the first day. compare results.

also remember ggg can flag individual accounts for reduced iir/iiq, it's how they check for bots
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>>180808385

Causing pain, suffering and anguish.
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>>180816297

nice sample size retard

(retard)
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>>180816297
>roll a dice
>get 6
>roll a dice again
>get 1
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this means dice rolling is rigged!!!!!!!! fuck ggg!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>180816558
That's a flawed analogy, leveling to merc dried lake can't be compared to a dice roll, more like if you roll a dice 100 times, chances are you will get 350, but if you see people getting 500 consistently, that's a cause for suspicion.
how he expects anyone to go into merc dried lake in 3.0 is another matter
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>>180816558

>keep rolling dice
>never land 6

What is a loaded dice?
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>>180816558
>>180816409

>roll a dice
>get a number between 1-6
>roll the same dice again
>roll a 25

you will literally get 10x the shit, its an extreme outlier that you will get EVERY time

or keep being chris' reddit cuckslaves, not my problem
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>>180815730
> RMT league
> bot league
> fun

Solo self found is the true way to play PoE. I don't get why players play 'hardcore' difficulty for extra challenge, while the real challenge is at solo self fouind!
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>>180817002

You have to be trolling, but ill tell you this: ssf is disfunctional at best, masochism at worst.

Game is not optimised for that at all.
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>>180817062
That's why its great! And it's still easier to make a good build in it than in 1.x

It's very well optimised for ssf play imo.
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let me break this down

thesis : does ggg alter streamer droprates?

fact : ggg can easily single out accounts linked to twitch through their UI
fact : ggg has the ability to alter droprates
fact : ggg has the willingness to do so without telling anybody
fact : increased streamer drops benefit ggg
fact : ggg has been involved in multiple dupe and rmt scandals to some degree

if we are going to make a case FOR our thesis:

ggg has the motivation to do so
ggg has the capability to do so
ggg has no moral issue with doing so

if we are going to make a case AGAINST it :

ggg is totally trustworthy and would not do something without telling us.

you be the judge /poeg/
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>>180817445
I don't think they have the motivation for it and would be against it since it would destroy their business model. Probably not very many people even RMT considering its fairly easy to get currency going in this game anyway. Yeah a 5L build would be better with a kaoms and a 6L, but it would still be on roughly the same level anyway so what's the point?
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>>180817364

Like hell it is.
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>>180817445

I am far more inclined to believe that they do tamper, considering it was in one of their forum posts that the they said they could adjust droprates on fly.

That and ruined Warbands economy from get go, because GGG covered up scammers.
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i don't know if "streamer rng" is more than a silly reddit meme but "returning player rng" is my go-to tinfoilhat theory, you know, when you come back after a small break and you'll get multiple big drops in just a few maps and hopefully get addicted again
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>>180817445
can you post stories about ggg rmt/dupe scandals? I need drama
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>>180817445
>fact : ggg has been involved in multiple dupe and rmt scandals to some degree

urls
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Do you actually want to see that mispriced lightning coil image that gets posted over and over?
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How about that Atziri's Acuity appearing on sale when noone actualy killed Uber Atziri?

Or fishing? Corrupt fish in Vaal Temple map that insta 6L shit? Recall that new unique fishing rod?

Or the mastercraft/scouring orb fiasco?
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>Fishing
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this thread stinks of slugposting
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Seeing how elemental direct-hit is going to be the meta next league, which means that pathfinder is once again the go-to class for almost every build. Am I wrong about this somehow? Maybe another nerf is coming?
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>entire premise of the conspiracy theory is based on a reddit post without any links or substantial evidence
>post has been debunked by GGG

>MULTIPLE RMT SCANDALS GUISE! GGG IS INVOLVED!!! CHRIS HIMSELF IS SELLING ACUITIES ON BEYOND!!11!

>>>>>>/x
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>>180823283
if they don't preemptively nerf wise oak and pen stacking in general, you just might be right
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>>180823283
That or Ascendant if you don't wanna rely on Vinktar.
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i can't do it
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>>180824779
>Ascendant
But 300 travel nodes to reach that single and only ele conversion cluster on the tree near ranger.
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>>180823283
Just remove that fucking ascendancy holy shit, this is the most retarded shit ever seeing how they keep and will keep adding retarded unique flasks.
There is no reason to play anything else, just stop and delete that dejection.
>>
why are we shitposting about this game on an anime forum anyway? what the fuck?
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>>180823283
Dont tell leddit, they want to believe Brutality + BM/Life/MoM will be king
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>Pathfinder
1000% more damage
Immune to all damage
Your skills cost 0 mana

>balanced
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>>180828819

>Berserker

100% Life leeched back if taken 15% of your health in one hit.
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pathfinder doesn't buff minions so its balance
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>>180830457
>Implying
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>>180817445
i found 10 reliquary this season by barely playing does that make me a streamer with good rgn
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Pathfinder is like activating God mode anyway, who cares about some worthless minion.
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LUL
retard streamers dying in lab

It's good that there is "hard" stuff in POE that punishes stupid people
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trying to make a goofy life spark build, any tips on tree? just want to farm a bit with it any probably won't go above t11/12 maps

any things I'm missing? should I be going hybrid es/life instead?
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>>180832876
i might cut off bottom right side of tree also as it seems pretty wasteful, also will see if theres a better way to path to scion life
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>>180832876
>wasting 15 nodes for practically nothing in bottom right part
>going crit but skipping the better crit nodes?
>messy and unefficient pathing choices around the witch area

that's something i'd consider looking into

also get the witch flask nodes and definetly go hybrid
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>>180832876
this is some terrible friggin pathing LOL
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Is this evasion build tanky enough /poeg/?

poeurl.com/blUB
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>>180832876
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>>180799801
jonathan pretty much coded all the game. You should be grateful he exists for it would not be an arts graduate (rory) or a bachelor of economics (Chris) who would have given you the game.

The correct name is Jonathan "all Smiles" rogers. Use it, peasant!
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>>180836012
yea all the spark builds I saw were CI which I don't really want to do, but I get the feeling this is kinda fucked. Oh well ill see what I can do with it until 3.0
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Well I died as flickerstike to an off screen 6 ghost goat in merci. I rerolled to life/crit glacial hammer assass because I managed to find a 20qual gh gem in coast. it's pretty fun desu
>>
I don't know what you were expecting playing flicker in mayhem
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>>180832876
Kinda hard to tell if this is trolling or you are actually not experienced in building.

Elemental nodes on the left are garbage. Pierce nodes from ranger would be relatively useful. Witch resist nodes are gargbage. You're an inquisitor but you've invested next to nothing into crit, you don't have power charges, you've missed several crit clusters. You spend a ridiculous number of points going down to ranger just for those three notables, which aren't amazing. You also aren't using mind over matter for no good reason.
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>>180838115
I expected to die to volatile instead of 1shot leap tbhsmhfam but I mean I knew I was going to die eventually even with the amount of leech + vp, on a side note assassin gh is great. I just need to optimise it better on the tree, prolly gona play it for the beta wipe
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can someone explain what people mean when they say CoC is gutted? I played with a guy that carried full poorjoys rotas on 2 diff pathfinder setups as CoC cyclone discharge and vortex/frostbolt. the only setups that cleared faster were fully geared wanders. apparently they can boss too

is it just shitters being shitters?
>>
WIPE WHEN FFS
WIPE
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNN?!?!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180840381

Nerfs incoming man, because xbawks will shit itself if CoC is not right-n-propa nerfed.
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How ass-blasted are lab farmers that they'll have 20 invasion bosses in those tiny lab corridors
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Why do they even bother giving Sceptres these imbalanced Elemental Damage rolls? The attack speed difference is negligible for movement skills and nobody uses a Sceptre for attack builds. Hell, all Sceptres could have 0 base damage and no build would bat an eye, not even a Lead Sprinkler build.
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>>180844010
Not at all because Invasion bosses have become so gimped over time that they're just free EXP so long as you recognize to stay out of corpses as best you can.
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>>180844248
Blade

Back

Guardian
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>>180844974
Isn't very bad.
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>>180845078
>I only play one build that is faceroll and have never had to deal with reflect or volatiles
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>>180845269
Stop projecting. I'm playing Righteous Fire Totems.
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>>180845318
You just proved my point. You're playing a build that ignores reflect and post-death explosions and act like Bladeback Guardian isn't bullshit because you're too retarded to realise that other builds exist.
>>
>invasion boss uses fire nova thing
>fps down to single digits
...damn...
>>
Just died to off-screen Bladeback Guardian.
Went from 6K to 0 in approx. 200ms.
Didn't even know this slimy fucker existed since I didn't invasion league.
Good thing i had reduced reflect damage thingie from my ascendancy

Good old memories of bullshit promenade thorns boss.

Thanks poetard
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>>180845506
RF Totems is not a faceroll build.
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>>180846034
just wait for 3.0 so when he shows up you will instead have your game reduced to 128x128 resolution : ^ )
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>>180847657
>>
EQ or sunder when playing slayer
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>>180848287
normally I'd say EQ but this league sunder is better
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>>180844129
> The attack speed difference is negligible for movement skills
Base attack speed of a weapon isnt even taken into account with movement skills
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7-ghosted unique one-shot me from off screen

nice race, dotards
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is dota even that much better than league
>>
>>180847063
>didnt even know this slimy fucker existed
yeah, u got to 6k without ever meeting him once.

sounds legit
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>>180848951
Oh. I was unaware of that. Reinforces my belief that high-level Sceptres that aren't Opal/Void are objectively worse than these 2.
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no because it's like a cheap chinese ripoff from wc3 dota
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who the fuck dies to lab traps rofl
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>>180847750
>filename
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>>180849924
Did you see the sweat on his back? is there a streamer more disgusting than pohx?
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>>180849479
I'm not playing your shit race m8.
I used an invasion league stone in a map, and yes this was the first time I met him. wanted to work toward that challenge, and now I'm dead, so fuck you.
>>
gigigi improves the performance continuously yet reddit still finds a way to whine and moan

fucking hate that place tbqh
>>
this is like the 5th time they "fixed" game performance
>>
>>180849983
he's basically poe's zyori

I bet he's a sniffer too
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>>180850441
t. reddit
>>
*sets up shop in thread*
*pms bot for online status link*
*sets up acquisition*
*boots up lutbot logout macro*
*loads iteminfo ahk script*
*overclocks gpu*
heh, time to push HC ladder
>>
*cracks my neck*
*cracks a cold one*
*starts my d.va playlist*
heh, time to play2win
>>
>>180849983
I haven't watched streams in a long time but isn't that the cringelord who kept boasting on stream about a "girl coming over soon" etc. lol
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>>180851828
the pothead with greasy hair
>>
*enter rippy map*
*start to get deadly lag spike*
*hammer on mouse to stay alive*
*mouse battery gets dislodged*
*no more mouse*
*starts randomly whirl blading everywhere aggroing the whole map*
*can't log out properly cause no mouse*
heh, time to die
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>>180851962
yes
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>>180851996
kek
>>
reddit is talking about doryani's fist for the 3rd day in a row
guess what's getting nerfed next
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>>180851996
>using a mouse with battery
el oh el
>>
post ur d.va playlist
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOIxusBy_6s
>>
kinda lmaoing rn
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>>180851996
>can't log out
ALT+F4 force closes window.
>>
do you want to win?
then you need me
>>
I'm a fat lazy virgin neet
I've already won
>>
time to raise my APM
>>
>>180852621
GEE GEE GEE GEE BABY BABY BABY
>>
https://clips.twitch
.tv/ToughThirstyPeppermintRickroll

reminder that this specimen is considered more skilled than mathil because he plays hardcore
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>>180853865
>go out of the way to proc fortify
>die to DoT
Highly skilled HC players
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>absent mindedly slamming prophecies
>Fated Connections
What do I put it in boys?
>>
something you're using, or seal and sell
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>>180853865
>Doesn't turn off RF when no mobs around to boost survivability
>Retriggers Dart Traps despite knowing exactly where they are
>Could have easily just followed the path of the traps and swapped squares without even tripping the Darts or getting hit by a saw
>Still uses retard strats
Goes to show.
>>180855994
Depends, you got a 6L Chest/2H Weapon yet? What League?
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>>180856304
Nah, using 5L Belly. Thinking of putting it in a better Belly and selling mine. In race.
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>>180856512
>2 Week race
Then yeah, get a fresh high-roll Belly and party hard.
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>>180853865
i like how he stayed on the traps path. all he had to do was hug the wall he was facing and drop down some.
>>
When is Soul Mantle getting 3D Art.
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>>180856837
>Was added a little over 4 years ago
Never.
>>
when they run out of mtx to sell aka never
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>>180856582
Yeah, sounds good thanks
>>
>even the insane scam currency buy orders aren't replying to whispers
what a game. even the jews have given up trading.
>>
>be an actual fucking retard and participate in a mayhem hc race
>get into yet another instance with invasion bosses
>suddenly mobs just stop moving
>"Path of Exile stopped responding"
>restart
>Void League

What really pisses me off is that i was REALLY TRYING to play it safe, the char was overleveled and overgeared all the time - only to die from a poe client crash.
Well, the sooner the better i guess...
>>
>>180859497
>playing HC
lmao

srsly tho, Karv just RIP'd like that a few minutes ago:
https://clips.twitch.tv
/FlaccidFrigidOctopusBCWarrior
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>>180851409
Wait, d.va has a play list?
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>>180859695
Shit exactly like that happens to me constantly. I logout/dc and can't get back in until my character's dead offline. I have a really stable cable internet. I could play any other game for months without getting a single lag spike/packet loss, yet it happens in PoE all the time. Like a retard I still play HC, because SC feels even more meaningless.
>>
>>180859497
>servers dying when opening breaches while playing srs/aw auramancer during breach
>random 300ms instances during legacy
>another lag spikes series during mayhem

Those fucking kiwis might as well delete hc while they're at it. No exclusive rewards, no more exclusive league or items, no exclusive challenges, only pain, anguish, and a different color for the fucking totem pole flag.
>>
is there any way to swap between life and Fall without having to download the patches every time?
>>
>>180859497
I crashed at the very least 6 times yesterday as well, unbelievable
>>
i'm half seriously considering to roll CI ED build since i got some gear on ssf

occultist or trickster?
>>
>>180817002
>play "hardcore"
>upon death your character goes to standard league

literally the opposite of hardcore
>>
>>180859695
>https://clips.twitch.tv
>/FlaccidFrigidOctopusBCWarrior

jej, yes, that was exactly what had happened to me. Nice race, GGG, introducing crashing instances as an additional undocumented challenge.
They should have called it Asylum instead of Mayhem, because you have to be mentally challenged to actually participate in something like this race.
>>
>>180862557
kek
>>
>>180861995
I prefer occultist for the ES recharge.
Trickster is great if you want frenzy charges.
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>>180862557
>>
did ESniggers kill themselves yet
>>
you're retarded if you think es is dead
>>
nobody implied that
you need more neurons EStards
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>>180863748
No because even with "nerfd" es you'll still hit 11k es+ (i.e shaper ed kill.) It will never not be meta
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>>180863748
>Down from 25K to 15K
>Losing 10 Damage Nodes will mean ES builds are mostly unchanged except at really high ES totals
>Still 50% more effective HP than top tier maximum investment Life builds AND Chaos immunity
Nope. They're still laughing all the way to the bank.
>>
>>180863748
how bad are you that you ascribe to any particular life or ES build instead of doing what's best for a current character? This isn't rhetorical.
>>
>>180865305
No instaleech is a big deal for many people.
>>
>>180867134
I genuinely believe GGG will throw them a bone with some Unique with a shitty downside in 3.0 that also has T1 rarity.
>Belt that allows their Leech to apply to ES no matter what, but can't leech to mana or some shit
>>
are there any build websites like icey veins for path of exile?
>>
>>180869724

also I'm new essentially new to POE i tried it a long time ago but giving it another go, so suggestions for new person builds?
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>>180869724
Best we got is the forums, sorry.
>>
died 5 times in mayhem
that's an average of 1 death / 10 hours
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>Look at related videos for d.va playlist
>See Mercy playlist
>Implying it's not just deepthroating audio
>>
tried playing d2 offline, made me appreciate even the default 4 poe stash tabs. fuck this archaic ministash bullshit 2bh
>>
>>180870084
marauder usually best, pick one of the strength AoE skills like Sunder and go ham while you figure out the game
>>
man fuck evasion league
>>
>>180871283

that's not some troll build that causes massive desync is it? or is desync fixed?
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>>180871429
It's been a long time since Ambush, Anon.
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>>180871456
they have lockstep now
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>>180870880
>tfw using the horadric cube to get slightly more storage space
>>
>>180871456
Sunder is just a skill gem. Most desync is fixed but some builds still lag the game out because the engine is shit. 3.0 has a "fix" which amounts to lowering your resolution if it gets too laggy
>>
>>180871456
Sunder is nothing special in terms of effects.
If you want a massive lag build on Marauder, https://youtu.be/0IvA95dNCMM?t=206
3 minutes 26.
>>
I want to be mindbroken and turned in /poeg/s meat toilet!
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>>180877138
You'll be a meat bicycle and like it.
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>>180877450
Meat toilet, meat bicycle, it doesn't matter Sir!
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>>180877138
Can you calm down and then get out of my fucking general you sissy
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>>180878118
What are you gonna do, punish me?
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>>180879009
OUT
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>>180879128
Make me!
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>>180814705
>>180814835
If you start hoarding shekels before having splinters, they fit in the same spots...
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>>180879232
Man, just go jack off, you will stop feeling horny and gay enough to shitpost here
>>
>>180879604
What if I'm locked in chastity
>>
>>180879902
are you also wearing girl's clothing?
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>>180880037
Always
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>>180880090
You play poe sc or hc?
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>>180880181
SC pls no bully
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>>180880369
Awpod pls
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>>180880369
*bullies u*
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how come all the scorching ray builds i see also are using RF?
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>>180877138
do you like being treated as meat...
>>
shitcrows out
caw caw
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>>180882972
Spiced up, cooked and eaten?
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>>180882972
Yes! Being a piece of meat for everyone to do lewd things to!
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>>180884531
would you want to be butchered halal style
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>>180884531
post pics
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>>180884848
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>>180885149
leave old memes in the dustbin
>>
WHY
DONT
PEOPLE
PLAY
SCORCHING
RAY
WITHOUT
RF
>>
Will our boy h4ns come back for 3.0
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>Why don't people skip synergistic skills?
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there should be a way to be immune to bear trap and vaal roa to be honest
>>
>>180889090
its called immortal call, faggot
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>>180889789
Wouldn't bear trap still lock you in place?
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>>180889958
isnt duration based on the amount of damage it inflicts?
if not, its called dont get hit, faggot
>>
>>180890119
I'm not >>180889090 I was just curious about the duration. No need to be so upset and unreasonable.
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>>180890346
Im not upset, I just dont wanna break the post style, faggot
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>>180890346
>>180890664
hi r*ddit
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>>180890772
censoring words like that seems to be the kind of shit that a redditor would do
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gee biiiiill two dippings!
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>>180889090
you can still use movement skills, just leap slam out for a while
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if anime is love
what is poe ?
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>>180838987
not experienced. do you need piercing nodes for this if using voidwalkers? I threw this together pretty quickly based off some CI spark build then realised what I made was bad.

are arcane potency/annihilation/trickery/assassination not enough for crit?

the whole area I took around scion feels pretty wasteful/not very useful so I'd like to drop that too if I can get away with it. do you think it would work better if I dropped that and picked up things like mind over matter and melding?
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Friendly reminder to not fall for the ED skill trap. It's not worth the suffering.
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>>180901775
Challenge accepted.
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>game has some of the best helmet designs in vidya
>rest of armor still looks dated as fuck
why would GGG update helmet designs but not the rest
At least clean the current armors up
and give different underclothes options
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>>180904672
>spoiler
Would it be so wrong to actually work on 3D modelling some of the Ascendancy picture outfits as new clothes for the characters when they Ascend? You don't have to do everything, like the Chieftain, Juggernaut, Gladiator, Champion, Trickster, Assassin, and Occultist helmets/hoods, but the outfits would be fucking awesome and a good excuse to shamelessly shill the no armor visuals MTX.
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>>180905145
>Every occultist looks like they just swam through a river made of sweat and trash bags
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>>180905145
holy shit exactly.
Gladiator for example is obviously wearing the lamellar, but the helmet isn't in the game and he isn't shirtless obviously. Dunno what Slayer is wearing but that looks nice too.
GGG seems so intent shilling cosmetics but they don't make the Ascendant stuff. That'd sell like hotcakes for sure
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>>180905585
>Slayer
It honestly looks like he's wearing Icetomb if it was a natural metal color.
>>
>>180905660
Yeah maybe with a bit different pauldrons and with a breastplate.
another tragedy is that there's nothing that matches with Icetomb
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>>180905268
Yeah. And her outfit is mostly unchanged. Necromancer gets the chainmail undershirt + pants and bone gauntlets, since Bone Armor is a thing already.
Elementalist gets the glowing eyes and a slightly altered Spidersilk Robe.
Etc. I'd especially like the Pathfinder one.
>>
>>180905268
>pathfinder gets tiddyshirt that struggles to contain her bust
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>>180905747
If Grip of the Council or Southbound had 3D Art, those probably would. Can't help the no pants thing tho.
>>
*clicks on breach*
*crashes*
>>
just play ssf and dupes/hacks become a non-issue :)
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>>180906164
don't forget nice legs too
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>>180907937
Deadeye for me. Ascendancy AND overall look.

You can have the others.
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>>180908051
I'll take the Champion armor
If that was actually in the game it'd be the best set in the game, so fucking nice

Also, anyone else think divine chainmail looks kind of goofy?
>>
I woulda preferred GGG to just do act 5, remove 1 difficulty and put a lot more effort into other places than this +6 new acts leveling content bullshit
>>
>>180908957
whats wrong anon? don't you like spending 20 hours repeating the same quests every time you want to make a new character?
>>
>tfw no tukohama shields in 2whc for my shitty totem poison build with gruthkul's pelt
>>
>>180704615

No (not yet)
>>
London keeps crashing :/ sent an email to GGG support 12 hours ago, still no reply
>>
>Be me
>Decide you like HC more for the excitement and challenge
>Realize that you need to be more tanky
>Over-level like crazy from the league mods
>Have over 1.9k Life Marauder
>Fight Shavronne in Harvest(normal difficulty)
>Portal out to get some flasks
>Portal back in and have a bunch of invisible storm calls be placed right on your portal
>Move Character and Instantly Die
>Fuck Hardcore

I thought I would be sick and tired of the Softcore mentality where you can just keep ripping over and over with no problems

I thought I wanted to return to HC and maintain a challenge and actually care about how I play

I did everything right and the game fucked me

Untill HC gets balanced Im not going to touch it.

Dying like that is so infuriating and stressful

Fuck Hardcore
>>
just ripped on my blade flurry dude on race at like level 40

i have a tabula and want to another build but im scared to wear it

recommend new build

FB totems need not apply, SRS either fuck off
SSFHC btw
>>
>Portal back in and have a bunch of invisible storm calls be placed right on your portal
>Move Character and Instantly Die

maybe balance ur fkn brain
>>
Scorching Ray (class of your choice)

good for breaches and fast leveling
EE is free damage and available early on
>>
i actually have a dude i wanted to go scorching ray on, but it seems that they are all basically RF builds.

Can Scorching Ray work ok on its own? templar seemed like a shitty area to start for pure scorching ray, would elementalist be better?
>>
RF is a stupid meme let alone SSF where you won't have the gear

just plug in numbers in PoB, SR does good damage on its own and once again EE is a free -50 fire res so you can go full tank + defensive curse and still do damage
>>
>>180913079
>needing to portal out on shavronne in normal
>dying to shavronne in normal

how is that even possible?
>>
how to proc EE? like orb of stoms?

also witch elementalist? or inquis
>>
orb of storms for ee/eo
inquisitor gets consecrated ground for health, mana and damage which is great when combined with mom as well as a "more" ele dmg taken aura, cast speed, and spell damage
elementalist gets nothing but damage since ele pen doesn't work with dots nor do reflect, conflux and prolif since sr doesn't hit
>>
just let the thread/general die already, baka
>>
oh i see

would the tree be significantly different than a RF tree? unable to find anything scorching ray that isnt just a RF build with SR tacked on
>>
both scales in the exact same way : burning, fire, elemental, as well as spell damage for sr and life for rf
rf also gives a 59% more and 20% increase to spell damage at 20/20 and works on a 4-link
there is no reason to not use both of them at the same time
>>
immolate is going to be the new hotness
>>
wrong
>>
What will GGG deliver after mayhem? There's going to be like a two-three week break. A flashback all-mod race maybe to cap it off?
>>
another reddit poll to decide wether or not to extend legacy yet again :^)
>>
>Died to a flicker strike volatile as a ranged character

Literally what could I have done
>>
>>180919728
>he gets hit
lmoa look at this scrub
>>
how ggg sees things:
>With the powers mentioned above, using Arakaali and Abberath's powers together would be excellent for fights where you find yourself burning, and have the opportunity to move around.

reality:
>Arakaali and Aberrath will only ever be used by RF builds

ggg's designers know so little about how people play the game it's not even funny
>>
if they didn't marry large fundamental game changes to challenge leagues they could have just run the next fetch quest league without 3.0
>>
>>180885994
because RF is a garbage boring skill?
>>
>>180914510
except for all the passives you waste getting enough life regen making your damage garbage even with the paltry more multiplier of RF
>>
you thought you were so clever
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>servers offline
>>
>Shaped Shore: 3 chaos
>Monster Life: 2 chaos

>map is lucky to drop 1 chaos

Explain the mapconomy to me
>>
>>180921397
loot and vendor all dropped rares :^)
>>
if it's not possible to come out behind when using currency then your currency will devalue even faster
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if ggg wants my attention they're gonna have to do better than a 2 week memehem league tbqh
>>
>find koams chache
>hope for primacy
>get the heart instead
Fuck. And here I was hoping for a dps increase
>>
>>180922119
just buy it for 1 fuse
>>
>go block, one-handers
>get kaom's primacy from a box
self found
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>group of friends decide to try out PoE
>suggest that they watch some youtube videos, pick a build guide and adhere to it for their first character to learn the ropes
>"nah man we're just going to play how we want, its not that hard"
>k
>four days later
>"man fuck this game its too hard"
>"its so slow, it takes forever to kill anything"
>"why don't I ever get any drops for my class that's stupid"
>"I was saving my skill points till merciless" (???)
>two weeks later, they are back in their assfaggots cancer and overwatch
>unanimously agree that PoE "sucks" and is "too slow"
>>
poeg no longer needs catshitter
exif is its new champion of autism
>>
when is legacy ending?
>>
>>180923087
early january
>>
never
>>
Is EA dead in 3.0?
>>
ur ded in 3.0 kiddo
>>
>>180925957

Why is poeg, and poe chat so full of unfunny meme spamming teenagers?
>>
i'm 29
fuck off
>>
should I make a final character being VFB before it gets the nerf-bat? never done a vaal skill build.
>>
>replying to a post
nys desu famalam
>>
>>180926123
infectious redditism
>>
>>180927686
O B S E S S E D
>>
>>180927498
IF YOU WANT
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>>180928972
tempted to go full retard and use biscos goldwyrm sadimas. go out with a bang. if i die, whatever. last char for the league.

is ll any legit for it? i have a shavs lying around i can throw in. 99% of people going vfb are CI
>>
wish I had some ramen to fuel my 16-hour poesessions
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watcha playing poeg
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>>180930759
Fallout 4 again, changing mods between playthroughs so it's always a different experience

was thinking of participating in the 2 week race but right now I want to get away from PoE
>>
Pathfinder or Ascendant (ele+raider) for a Doomfletch's Prism build?
>>
>>180930759
Playing some Dankest Dungeon since it finally went on sale and considering resubing to FFXIV
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top kek
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wipe when? I want to try 3.0 but the upcoming wipe is stopping me
>>
>>180934387
>Didn't even try to Leap Slap
>>
>>180934387
>wrongnleagueboys
laughinglizard.jpg
>>
>>180922774
can you blame them? there is no in-game tutorial
>>
can't get over how faggy ziz sounds
>>
>watching any poe streamer other than baked and havoc
s m h
>>
>watching any poe streamer
k y s
>>
pt is our guy
>>
>>180936715
he truly was
>>
PT's ED streams were one of the best poe streams ever
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>>180937494
>no more comfy 500 builds stream before new leagues
>>
>>180937579
Well first we need to have 500 shaper viable builds
>>
>>180930759
>DD
hire my pawn
>>
>>180931384

it doesn't matter....they play exactly the same

flaskfinder if you have the flasks
>>
why isnt 3.0 out yet
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