/twg/ - Total War General

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Attila

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G O B L I N S

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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT THE THREAD THEME IS WHEN THERE'S NO EDITION

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Soon(tm)

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I AM _________ AND _________

>>180478105

>thread theme

What a meme

>Playing as Empire
>Facing human armies
>Beastmen attack me
>Dwarfs and Vampires declare war against me
>Wood elfves resent me
>No human wants to do anything with me
>Somehow I am untrustworthy when I haven't done shit

The fuck is this?

>>180478365

AAAAAAHHHHHH

ATHEL LOREN

>>180478554
The eternal glade!

>>180478165
DO WHAT YOU WANT
CAUSE YOU'RE A PIRATE IS FREE
YOU ARE A PIRATE

>>180478694
delete this right fucking now

>>180478365
>>180478575
That's a big resolution

What's a Total War fans favourite variant of pizza?

>>180478694
Robbies gonna be a Zombie Pirate bretty soon.

>>180478796
Cheese pizza

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First for Lustria genocide!

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>when you have to literally wait for them to run out of ammo
Man I fuggin HATE skirmishers

>>180478796
Anchovy and Sausage.

>>180478939
*cut to generic empire units*

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>33% off DLC

THANK YOU CA, YOU ARE SO GENEROUS AND NOT JEWISH AT ALL.

Now I can finally recruit RoR's just like the AI!

>>180478994

>recruiting RoRs

You should be using the mod that disables them.

>>180478760
Press K to turn off the UI.

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>pirate vampire faction will have generic units

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>>180478796
I can't pick just one but my top three are: classic pepperoni, meat lovers', and "Hawaiian" style (bacon, pork, pineapple w/ bbq sauce replacing red sauce). Best frozen brand is Screamin' Sicilian, best delivery are the local shops around here. Fuck off with the pineapple-on-pizza heresy meme pls.

>>180478796
Pepperoni, just like the Everqueen's nipples

I do love shooty armies. Should I be getting the WE DLC now that it is 33% off?

Which do I buy, beastmen or woodelves?

I'm not a good enough goy to buy both at the same time

>>180479361
Yes. They're more a movement faction than shooty (they don't have good armour and no artillery, so will have trouble in straight missile duels.)

>>180479123
press K my friend

>>180479420
Would you rather have a hoard or a settled faction?

>>180479420

Which one is more interesting to you?

Elves have the better mini campaign, imo.

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>>180479664

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History be Ballin!
Warhammer be Fallin!

>>180479671
>>180479689

I literally don't know.

I don't have chaos warriors, and I never really played hoard factions all that much in attila so that's a reason to try out beastmen, but then I also like the idea of a small "tall" empire like wood elves, and archer meming is always kind of fun.

But I've heard WE mechanics actually actually push you on offensive and spreading across the map... I wouldn't mind if it was just raiding and sacking but I don't know if I want to play another paint the map faction.

>>180479420
If you ever wanted to try a horde campaign you will need beastmen, cause chaos is dogshit.

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>>180479842

>suicide is always an option

>>180478331
Smh you sound like a real backstabber

>>180478796
I will eat cheese if its there

Usually I like to get sausage/whatever other meat toppings sound good

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>SkullTakerz horde comes out of nowhere wrecks my only army with ease
>next turn gets decimated against the Karak Izor stupid-AI-bottleneck-garrison force

This map is literally a crutch.

Name 1 (one) reason why Shogun 2 is not the best total war game.

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Does anyone have any good medieval 2 mods?

>>180478943
as dacia you have great skirmishers which the AI doesn't run away from which allows you to btfo hors earchers if you use them right

>>180480345
unit variety

>>180480352
Yes, twcenter has some.

>>180480345
Gook history is boring and there is zero variety

Also it may just be me but something about Shogun 2 battles makes them look graphically worse than even Medieval 2 IMO. It might be the general style but it looks like dogshit when compared to Empire/Napoopan which came out before it.

>>180480328
A shame the AI is bugged and only attack the east gate meanwhile the rest stay in west side.

>>180480127
Wood Elves have the option to paint the map, but outside of Athel Loren, their cities are poorly garrisoned tier 1 outposts. You can use them to paint them map, if your autism demands it, or you can use them as a staging point to launch your raids.

which one should i buy in the steam sale?
shogun 2?
fots?
both?

i've heard that they're both good

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y-yes master...

>>180480631
Fall of the Samurai is good if you liked the gunpowder based gameplay from Empire more than the traditional melee.

WE ARE THE GODS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER

WE ARE THE SOLDIERS THE LEGION OF LIGHT

WE ARE THE CENTER THE DEPTH OF THE SUN

FIRE AND FLAME

WE ARE ONE

I just got the grim and gay dlc because i want me some knights of the blazing sun. How is Ghorst? Better or worse than Heinrich Himmler?

>>180480631
You could just download them for free from the usual places.
Don't support a company with DLC practices as bad as CA.

>>180480631
Well do you want melle units stabbing at each other or line infanty?

I'd start with normal Shogun 2 and see if you like that
Also you don't get any achievements if you just got FotS
Don't buy Rise of the Samurai that's for sure

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Reminder that Lustria is a multicultural paradise where all races live side by side in close proximity

Should I buy the campaign DLCs for attila?

>>180480897
No, pirate them.

>>180480760
>Better
he's better. 100% better

>>180480719
>>180480843
>Well do you want melle units stabbing at each other or line infanty?
i kinda liked empire. But i'm mostly just looking for another good total war, since I played rome and medieval 2 to death.

>>180480352
Europa Barbaorum 2, my friend :))

BotET is also good

>>180480897
Charlemagne - yes

Last Roman - only if you are a Byzaboo and playing as Belasarius excites you or you think horde Romans sound real novel

>>180480760
Kemmler is literally the worst lord in the game, of course Ghorst is better. Ghorst is on the decent end.

Can you just click travel button for the errantry wars like the quest battles or do I have to travel all the way down to Badlans for it?

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>>180480631
Depends on what time period you want more. Just to let you know, they're both fast paced when it comes to the battles. The game is still gorgeous after six years.

>>180481048
Personally I liked Fall of the Samurai better, but it does have somewhat less content than in the base game obviously. Can't go wrong either way though desu as they're both pretty quality, though if you're a true patrician you'd get Attila, the best game in the series, instead

Ok so. As promised I will buy something for someone since it's a sale.

Who ever provides the thread with the best OC will get rewarded by an item of their choosing. This will not include any deluxe packages so don't get uppity with the request if you win. Leave your steam ID with the OC you provide since I won't be guessing who posted what.

I already gifted quite a few people that provided OC to the thread but were missing some DLC, if that's a guarantee. Give it your best and pick an item you want me to buy for you!

GO!

>>180480352

Stainless Steel

Broken Crescent

Third Age

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So they sent a 7 stack of horse archers at my capital out of nowhere, 3 of them actually challenged me and got destroyed by my skirmishers, the rest just did this for 33 minutes

>>180480352
Medieval 2 has the best mods in the series silly

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>>180480631

It's kind of weird, but I feel that shogun 2 is better, but fall of the samurai is more comfy and fun, because I'm a pleb.

Shogun 2 can actually be difficult both on the campaign map and certainly in battle, the enemy usually fields decent armies and battles are more often relatively even and require good tactics. Then, in all my time with fall of the samurai, the enemy always fielded just stacks of garbage levy units even in the late game, and the battles are often just sit there and watch the bullets fly. Boy is it fucking pretty though.

>>180481702
Imagine what could have been achieved if the base game wasn't so terrible

Are the Welfs glass cannon with out the cannon

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>Warhammer Vermintide puts the DLC on sale for 15% off, Fatshark moves DLC off the store page and into the bundle page
>Total Warhammer puts DLC on for 33% off and also announces the sale
Come on now Fatshark.
That said, I'm probably going to pick up the Chaos Warriors DLC as that's the only Warhammer DLC left.
Also probably will pick up the remaining DLC for Shogun, Fall of the Samurai.

Is the DLC for Rome 2 worth the dosh?

>>180480760
Ghorst was a mistake. CA needed an antagonist for Volkmar for their first DLC and picked a literal nobody from a paragraph in the lore.
They got their shit together for Skarsnik and Belegar and haven't looked back since. Ghorst is a remnant of those early directional/thematic teething problems.

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I hate germans so fucking much

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___________

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I preordered Warhammer 1 but I ain't paying shit until the whole world campaign map is fully implemented and working for W2, It took them a year to get Bretonnia out.


>Amazons still not announced

>>180482092

I enjoyed playing ceaser in gaul, but it's the only DLC I actually played in rome 2.

Chaos warriors a shit.

>>180482160
I kind of like him, actually, especially him being an apprentice figure to Manfred. Still very odd having him be one of the picks when VC have so many damn good (relevant) options to choose from.

>>180482508
The big map and the TWW1 map are probably going to play differently so you may as well at least try the first game after the new race pack comes out.

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>>180482356
I hope we get some more people saying aaaaaaaaaaaaah with Warhammer 2 and the upcoming history titles

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>>180482508
Halflings are still not announced and Moot has been in the game since day 1
At least we're getting a few units as Old Friend

>>180482646
Hannibal at the Gates is great as well

The R2 campaigns + AoC are much better than the "mini-campaigns" in WH

>>180482356
TZIPENYA

ABABIBICHIBABABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HENYA MA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ABABABIIIIIIIICHIIIIMIMOOOOOOOOO

DIGITANA DI DIGITANA DIGITANA DI DIGITANA

FROM THE DAY WE ARRIVED ON THIS PLANET

>>180482356
AAAAAAAHHHHHttila

>>180482757
The Skaven announcement trailer better start with an ahhhhhhh.

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>>180482804
#not my king

>>180482969

#ResistLions

>>180478796
Hawaii for it is pleasing to Slaanesh.

>grand master collection doesn't have everything the master collection has
what the fug

>>180482958
>not starting with a HISSSSSSSSS

>>180483336
-TORY

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Prediction time lads!

1) Who's going to be the most killy LL in TW2?
Krok-gar
2) Who's going to be the biggest pansy LL in TW2?
Mighty Thanquol

>>180478796

thin crust Napoletana or salsiccia

>>180483674
Franz is still going to be top dad.

Hello, i'm slav, i want free content ok CA ? Shit jew DLC sega, ok praise history and Mislav, fuck warhammer

>>180484057
preach it

>>180483674
Setra
Or
NAGASH

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>>180484057

>>180483674

>Thanquol who will probably get Boneripper to let him rack up melee kills
>Biggest Pansy

Naw

My bet is 100% on Teclis unless they really push High Magic (They won't)

Warhammer asymmetrical balance pisses me off. As a player who has always played TW against the AI instead of mp I am just annoyed by the way it fights and acts. It's competent, but not in a strategic sense. In a botlike sense. Every fight against the AI is bound to become annoying for some reason. Maybe it is the effect of CA wanting to make it harder to hammer and anvil, but as it is now I literally never get to do that in Warhammer. Spells, monsters, etc... is a convoluted mess from which mostly the bot profits, but as a player I restrain myself normally. If I wanted to I could build my army with only griphon knights, giants, spider, etc and steamroll every fight and in some sense the game encourages you to do that so you can even have an ounce of fun, but then you have taken away the challenge for yourself and it feels hollow.

I wish the bot would play normal instead of like an asshat who will try to send half his battleline around yours or spam monsters to just run through your line into your skirmisher, because when both play like that it's just a korean clickfest without getting to watch any cinematic combat or charges. Just masses of units scattered all across the map. Game pisses me off.

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>>180484057
I HATE SLAVS

>>180483674

>easy
>normal
>486 average kills per battle

CCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASUAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLS

>>180484057

Reminder that 80-90% of bad Steam reviews of warhammer are from Chinamen and Slavs

Reminder to disregard the opinions of subhumans

>>180484231
>Implying Teclis won't be the Franz of TW2

>>180483674
Who will have the best VA in the New World?
How will they compare to Belegar, Gelt, Vlad, Isabella and Napoopan Leouncouer?

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>>180484057
praise history

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>>180478796
mushrooms, sweetcorn, some sort of spicy chicken

>>180484268
>literally complaining you cant just go to sleep and wake up to a win screen with the same old bullshit because there are big guys who can get through line

It's crazy because you can still do that just fine too. Just go back to abusing yari walls man

>>180478750
UU
UU

>>180484679
They just replaced one kind of cheap tactic with another.

>>180484231
Teclis has actually a better weapon than tyrion, but he'll probably have very low hp.

>>180481923

They've definitely got the cannon. Wild/hawk riders, deepwood scouts and waystalkers, wardancers with a melee boosting lord, forest dragons with a healer, all of these units bring the hurt.

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>>180482313
Let me describe the way this campaign is going currently

>WRE (me) only faction left in the West, Sassanids and their buttbuddies in the east
>want to invade them and reclaim the east for victory conditions/fun
>in order to do that I have to make more money to fund more/better armies
>this requires a bit of turtling as I research/build using what income I have
>during this time the remaining german tribes had set up shop in the steppe and declared war
>keep sending armies from their sarmatian shitholes and attacking provinces
>because I have to secure my border against the sissynigs the provinces aren't secure
>I am going to have to fully remove them from their steppe hovels to secure my northern border
>since the game now has day after tomorrow-tier climate change going on, my armies are immobilized half of the year
>takes twice as long to get anywhere
>any armies I try to send to the barbarian/sassanid steppe towns either get relentlessly agent spammed or attacked by large armies
>they win the battles, but the casualties mean that they have to go back and replenish
>this takes even more time
>by the time I have another army close to taking an enemy settlement the enemy has another army as well
>rinse and repeat
>If I try to send more than one army to the steppe the fucking germans will sack whatever town I have left undefended

>>180485149

Magic weapons in Total Warhams are dogshit anyway, the only good ones are the ones like Mannfreds sword that have abilities unrelated to how hard they hit stuff.

The stat/damage buffs CA gives to magic weapons are so tiny as to be barely perceptible.

>>180484591
Speaking of which, where the fuck is my next historical title, CA?

>>180485382
never ever

Someone explain the over the alps meme to me.

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>>180485467
>being this new

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>>180485467

>>180485467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWZCfdDW4NQ

>>180485237
In the grim past of the 0.5th millennium, there is only war
Good luck Anon

>>180485382
They are working on two of them Anon we will get our fill
I wonder how the next history title will turn out now that they have so much time working on it, there will even be a smaller game releasing before it

>>180485467
Over the alps perhaps?

>>180485467
It's black humor

>>180484982
To elaborate on this for a second: There are units which hardcounter certain units so hard I'd never bother bringing them like artillery. Enemy has a flying monster sends it your artillery's way and bam, two of your units are now engaged in a pointless fight (including counter unit you send to protect the arty). Now it's 19vs18 for the bot and this is just one of many possible scenarios. Unicorn units prevent this. I can fill my whole army with unicorn units in campaign just like the bot, because there is no recruitment limit. I wish recruitment worked like Medieval 2 for fucks sake. Makes no sense to be able to field unlimited amount of monsters or other elites/specialized units. This leads to armies that hard-counter other armies which is just sad, because then you just lost on a meta level instead of fighting badly although this wouldn't happen against the bot, because it tries to maintain some logic to it's recruitment.

>>180486097
One thing I've noticed in recent games is that the AI is getting very good at cheesing the game. It's as if CA can't be bothered to make competent AI so they just make them cheat, even if it goes against the source material.

>>180486097

>I never get artillery because the enemy might bring a flyer and hurt them after they've done 80% of their killing anyway.
>Actually considering flying melee dropping in well past it's supporting army a net negative for the defender.

>>180486097
>>180486445
have you tried getting gud?

For M2TW what is Error Code 361

Pops up whenever I try to play Rage of The Dark Gods

>>180486704
google it, there seem to be multiple threads online that discuss the problem

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OVER THE TROLLHEIMS PERHAPS?

>>180486097
as opposed to a light cav going around and hitting your artillery? what the fuck is wrong with you man, you are literally complaining about having to play the game

the whole planet is desperately trying to mod the ai to be more competent and use more counterplay and unit variety, and here you are saying its bullshit that the ai actually recruited a flyer and disrupted your artillery

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>Play Wood elf
>Against another wood elf
>Think wildrider with shields would rek them.
>Got some good archers too
>Some nice wardancer cuties
>Arrive at battle.
>Big battle, interesting battle.
>Get my soldiers on place.
>Got a huge second army only of wildriders.
>Armies clash fighting starts.
>Wardancer cuties in a matter of seconds all die, as expected.
>Archers too stupid to shoot at enemies, when my god awful wardancers are engaged with them. MAnually lead those retards on.
>Cavalry finally!
>Oh wait they don't ride over their archers... no that would be too easy.
>They ride in and slowly hack down one after one. As expected they are prove to be completely useless as well...
>Mfw

Its strange, the wood elves are shit at archery for some reason, shit at melee and they are total shit as cavalry... is there one single thing that wood elves can do atleast moderately?

>>180486701
I just told you what getting good means in this game. It means to discarding any previous notions of how to play Total War, built a stack of unicorn units and roflstomp the shit the AI brings by playing like an asshat and charging everything 1vs1 with superior units. Formations and shit don't mean anything anymore. Even worse you'll get your shit clogged up and have to spend a trillion clicks on getting some faggots to disengage. Now this might just sound logical to bring the better units and attack the weaker units, but it's nothing special to do that when there is no limit to elite units besides holding back as a player.

>>180487258
>as opposed to a light cav going around and hitting your artillery?
Yep another point, why even enable the bot to do that. Why even bring a squishy unit that has limited benefits and is very situational when I can bring fucking griphon knights.

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>chickenboy actually got a positive governing trait

I'm amazed

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>>180487512
>thinking that WELVES are bad
holy shit, you must be fucking terrible at total war, they have some of the strongest units in game

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>>180487642
>not employing the art of eugenics to breed the overman

>>180486097
>Enemy has a flying monster sends it your artillery's way and bam, two of your units are now engaged in a pointless fight (including counter unit you send to protect the arty).
>not shooting down flyers or keeping units in reserve to protect arty.

Also didn't Attila not have this problem?

>>180487925

Well against dwarves they are kinda nice because they are very melee oriented and get rekt at open field. But against Beastmen, other wood elves, Bretonnians and even orcs wood elves get rekt at every turn. I never really outright won a battle without losing half my army to Skarsnik or some Beast Hobos.

>>180487624
this whole post is fake news, get your head out of your ass and learn what a halberd is

that artillery you are swearing up and down is useless will rip all those big units to shreds and the only magic worth anything are the spells that just apply the effects of yari walls. Fucking spamming peasants was the dominant meta for the majority of the game's lifespan. Just kill yourself man

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>>180487642
stop forcing captives to join it gives shitty traits to your faction ruler

>>180488174
>skarsnik
see pic related, you just need a bit of practice anon, it takes a bit of getting used to, but their units are incredible

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>>180487642
"I'm getting far too old for this shit"

-Gaius Turullius Stolo, 72 year old general (this guy is a supreme commander and has the heroic princeps, which means his entire army has a +10 to melee attack, and his inf has +15))

Also now I can only move in the steppe territories during summer - there is snow on the ground during winter, fall, and spring

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Gotcha

>>180487215
Don't give Surtha any ideas

>>180488387

Bullshit, I don't know how you did that but wood elves literally just have deepwood archers and waywatchers. Only good units that they have.

>>180488412
>argayon the ever chosen
>not even level 30
he should be fucking level 60 and have all his skills unlocked the moment the end times begin, I want to fight a demi-god level monstrosity, not some weak fucknugget

>>180488403
Stolo sounds like a cool guy

Should I buy Rome 2? Should I buy Napoleon? Are non campaign DLCs worth buying?

>>180488323
>this whole post is fake news, get your head out of your ass and learn what a halberd is
Great now I got my halberds ready to go pierce some armor and stab some monsters, but shit wait, I am now fighting a stack full of night goblins which render my halberd infantry obsolete...

>Fucking spamming peasants was the dominant meta for the majority of the game's lifespan
As it should be? Ashigaru made up the bulk of any Shogun's army.

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>>180488626
their generals are incredibly good and can have amazing traits like one that gives every ranged unit +12% range, Orion is a beast that can solo armies, eternal guard with shields is very durable, has armour penetration and anti-large, and with if led by a general with one of the elven council positions they have extra 20 armour on top of their already good base armour, wild riders with shields are solid cavalry that moves fast, has frenzy and can ruin any infantrymans day with a rear charge

>>180488412
>a dude who literally has Sauron's eye on his forehead gets ambushed

cool beans

>>180488839
No point if you have Attila.

Yes.

Not really unless you badly want to play as a specific faction.

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>>180488626
>Only good units that they have.

t. Retard

>Eternal Guard
These guys are your most basic inf and have AP, anti-large, great morale, and the shielded variant have great missile block chance (50% iirc)
>Treekin
Incredibly tanky monstrous unit - these guys just refuse to die unless facing ap anti large units or things with fire damage
>glade guard
Your most basic archer unit has the best range in the game, as well as ap magic damage and poison damage variants
>Wardancers w/ Asrai Spears
While the regular wardancers blow chunks, these guys are basically the welf version of slayers, with great ap and anti large and great speed to catch any large units that try to get away from them
>Wild Riders
Great melee cav with great speed, and amazing charge bonus thanks to frenzy. Their impact damage is great and they also have a physical resistance. They will do wonders if used correctly
>Magic
Welfs have one of if not the best lore of magic in the game w/ the lore of life, and have great synergy with lots of low model units that benefit from it (treekin/men, hawk riders, forest dragons, lords)

>>180489306
>implying setting doesn't make the most important difference when deciding what game to play

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>>180482356
>An ancient treeman awakens

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>>180488403

You call that old? Now this guy, he is literally too old to shit.

>>180488851
>As it should be? Ashigaru made up the bulk of any Shogun's army.
As in what you're saying right now is not fucking relevant because that is still the most viable thing to do. There's like 20 workshop mods trying to figure out how to get the ai to recruit a single like t3 heavy infantry and here you are complaining about this bullshit imaginary scenario where a 20 stack of demigryphs is kicking your ass.

>Great now I got my halberds ready to go pierce some armor and stab some monsters, but shit wait, I am now fighting a stack full of night goblins which render my halberd infantry obsolete...
What kind of fucking autism is this. Are you having problems with monsters or not? How the hell is a full stack of goblins a fucking issue? Is this just some new form of bait? What are you even bitching about anymore?

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>>180489138
Just as planned.

>>180488626

What the fuck are you talking about

Wood Elves have like, 2-3 units in their roster that are actually bad.

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>welves are bad
I was ambushed in this battle, and still won easily

How important are unit ranks?

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>>180489853
they also look neat

>>180489650
heck

time to send him off into the wide water on a piece of ice

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>>180488743
He was the general who you start out with in the province next to the quadians, and held off their initial assault and retaliated by eradicating them. He then destroyed both the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths, as well as several migrating Steppe Tribes, and was kicking so much ass the game had to assign him the "Arrogant" trait. I'm using a mod that changes offices to be more like AoC where iirc they were indefinite appointments (this makes them 200 turns long, 50 fucking years) and he just finished his term of office as supreme commander - thats how long he has been kicking ass. He is the only remaining man from the original group of generals that saved the empire from the barbarian incursions at the beginning of the campaign.

>>180489650
what mods were you using? I've only ever seen AI faction leaders get that old

>>180490126
>next to the quadians, and held off their initial assault
>not just eradicating quadians on turn1

>>180489692
>. There's like 20 workshop mods trying to figure out how to get the ai to recruit a single like t3 heavy infantry
I had luck with the "better building management" Mod.

>>180490126

no mod, fucker just managed to live that long. He died like a turn or two later. I regret not sending him out in battle, just strapped to a chariot like a roman black coach.

>>180488972
>>180489450
>>180489797

Than how the fuck do I lose every battle against other welfs? That's bullshit, I flank them, I encircle them I put pressure on them. WORTH JACKSHIT. Because not one single unit does any good kills. I can send them against any fucking worthless unit, they die. What the fuck is this shit?!

Am I missing something here? Is there something in Warhammer total war that isn't in all the other games? I always am in the upper hand yet still lose how can that be?! That reminds me of shogun 2 multiplayer actually. Same shit. Some asshole got a couple of perks and he was basically invincible atleast for you as newcomer.

>>180490219
>using merc onagers

Despicable

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>>180490508
>Welfs are bad because they lose to Welfs

>>180490508
What difficulty are you on?

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Jesus fucking christ that was horrible
Thankfully the Orion the chief beastman counts as an large unit and alberic has +30 antilarge bonus

>>180490875

Normal, its just insane! It doesn't matter what the hell I do they lose. I think something isn't right here but I have no idea what it could be... I can literally send a wardancer of mine against a wardancer of theirs and my will lose 100 %.

>>180490807

Hey I just state what I see.

>>180491354
Are you doing something silly like not charging them?

>go to attack a settlement
>overwhelmingly positive balance of power
>add a single hero unit, don't remove anything units, nothing else different
>barely positive balance of power

what kind of flaming hot bullshit is this

>>180491576
Does your hero have some kind of campaign effect that reduces enemy leadership or something that doesn't work when it's embedded in a unit?

>>180491429

I do charge them too! I actually put those spearman with shields on the front. Flank with wardancer, while my archers shoot at them from behind my lines. Next I charge in with my cavalry into their rear and try to decimate their archers to no avail.

There must be something I miss out on...

>>180491735
Post a screenshot of what your battle looks like when your units are engaged

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>Warhammer DLC

>>180491912

Wait I actually went back a few saves and I try it again this time. I'll upload some screenshots in a bit.

>>180492031
>b-but Paradox!!

>>180492031
They also recently hiked up the prices too in other countries, an increase of 40 percent in south america or something.

>>180492031
Paradox take it to extremes, but the amount of Warhammer DLC isn't that different from the amount of DLC that Rome 2 and Atilla got

>>180492248

also the DLC is better because it isn't just guys with different hats on and maybe a camel.

>>180491734

no, not deployed or any items affecting the enemy either.

Just one of those wonderful CA things I guess

>>180492248

I liked rome 2 DLC because none of it was interesting and I didn't have to buy any of it. I was perfectly happy with that.

>>180492334
Those camels are pretty hardcore though
Even in Atilla just charging braced spearmen headon and easily winning is certainly unique

>>180492248
I feel like it's kind of more jewish though because of they bundle it up

>oh you want to play as Beastmen? Well then here you go, but have fun also paying for this mini campaign which is total shit because we only made it to bloat up the price too!
>oh you want to have all the units for the Empire? Well I sure hope you also want to play as bald magic man haha! (you definitely don't)

Rome 2 had those two unit DLC's from what I recall, kikery imo
Attila was nice because it really felt like you didn't miss anything at all if you didn't own the DLC and played as a vanilla faction
Warhammer still patches everything in but with the AI that's the same faction as you recruiting units you can't it feels bad

>>180492334
Camels changed the game

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>>180492631
>He doesn't want to play as the bald magic man

>>180492631
>bald magic man
Volkmar?

>>180492739
>Slann defending their spawning ground

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Now what a fucking surprise

>>180492631
I don't like the bundled campaigns but I find the LL DLCs are more interesting than most of the DLC factions in Atilla, solely because you get units that fufill different roles and with belegar and skarsnik it changes the campaign a lot

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Attila DLC are -75% on Steam

What recent TW:s should I buy from the sale, I have Empire, Napoleon, Shogun 2 and TW:WH plus the old ones already.

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>>180493078

Attila

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Haven't booted the game since December last year.
Is Steel Faith Overhaul still good with recent patches?

>>180493078
Which ones did you like?
Is there DLC for a game you like?

Do you own FotS?

Attila is my favorite Total War but I don't know how a Shogun2/Warhammer type of person would enjoy it

>>180493339
/twg/ is very divided on SFO
Some of us love it
Some of us hate it
Some of use have no opinion on it
I think we can all agree that those cowards who hold no opinion should be executed at dawn.

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check out this llama (or alpaca maybe?)

should i buy Medieval 1?
i never played either of the 2D Total Wars

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History and fantasy living in harmony with some Warhammer newfriends trying out historical titles on sale.

>>180493339
slowly moving towards radious-tier units

>>180493570
What's to hate about it?
Besides the fact that it's not vanilla anymore.

>>180493579
Medieval 1 is a good game.

>>180493579
It's definitely enjoyable and better than 2

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>play Shogun 2 for the first time in years
>mfw IF OUR DAIMYO IS TO BECOME SHOGUN

>>180493764
STOP the Medieval 2 hate! Just cause she's popular doesn't mean she's a bad girl...

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>3 more settlements I have to raze
>can only move one once every year bc of snow
>enemy agents spamming assassinations, harrass, and deceive

This is slowly sucking the fun out of this campaign for me. The late-game climate in Attila is fucking retarded unless you are a barbarian, and it really fucking ruins the late-game north of sicily/spain/the levant

Thanks for the advice my /twg/ friends!

>>180493764
>better than 2
That's about what I would expect at a minimum :^)

>>180493689
If you say so

It's only 1,99, I think it's worth that much to check out the roots of the franchise

Okay das' it screenshots don't work for some reason I only get a black screen. But I went ahead and made a custom battle.

One wardancer unit against footman of the empire.

The wardancers fucking lost. Fuck that, wood elf units are all overpriced and they are a joke when it comes to the real deal.

>>180493952
Serves you right for being a map painter!

>>180493946

I for one still like Medieval 2, even if I can no longer readily claim she's the best TW.

>>180494138
>worst welf unit is bad
>that means all welf units are bad

flawless logic

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>>180480682
Rollan

>>180494171
>preserving the Roman Empire
>map painting

>>180494520
>preserving the Roman Empire
>beyond the Danube

>>180494478

So I am right? Not only are women generally uncapable of fighting. But those women are completely useless...

Too bad though they look really cute.

>>180493952
I made an alan empire right on ukraine

Needless to say, logistics became hell on earth

Oh and get ready for fightong the russian tribes
They are the most annoying shit ever

>>180494138
>Footman
You mean swordsmen?
Wardancers should not be losing 1v1 to swordsmen. That doesn't make any sense at all if you really are on normal battle difficulty. Wardancers losing to swordsmen has never happened whenever I've played, either.

>>180494749
>Tfw they will never make warhawk riders viable

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>>180494749
Don't know what to tell you my dude

>>180493064
The campaigns good?

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is The Last Roman DLC any good boys?

>>180494831
Hawk Riders are great when you switch them to melee mode.

>>180494225
>she

>>180494858
Meant for >>180494138

>>180494892
WRE id fun so far. though you gotta learn some stuff

>>180494831
They're viable for hunting skirmishers and charging shit in the rear, they have 45 AP weapon damage

>>180494858
>doesn't use the feminine even though its all women unit
>bretteurs
what the fuck

I hate to ask this but I'd really like a quick run down on TW2. I know it's about the new world but it seems there has been lots of news the last few days.

>go watch the streamer Biscuit Autist of War. He knows about it.

Please don't make me listen to some sperg wobbling flab into a microphone. I figure there must be a list somewhere.

>>180494831

Hawkriders are for charging engaged heavy cav in the rear and fucking their ass with their huge AP damage

>>180494731
>Oh and get ready for fightong the russian tribes

They are already dead, the factions that are up there are Atropatene and the Rugians. The rugians are the last barbarians in the game

>>180494831
They are, but as melee units instead of missile units. They are mobile and have ap, and if you use them right they can get good kills

>>180494858
HON HON HON

>>180494949
Its ok, the main campaign involves a horde though so if you hate hordes I wouldn't advise you get it

>>180495015

I mean, the fucking Steam Page would probably give a more coherent breakdown than any of us autists could

>>180495015
I'm going to do something very controversial here, and link to our sister site
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/6f4njh/compilation_of_all_tww2_new_information/

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It's raining outside friends

>>180494892
AoC is a good minicampaign yes
Last Roman can be entertaining if you are a Byzaboo and want to be Belasarius the horde Roman

>>180494949
you

>>180495015
heres is a good summary https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/6f4njh/compilation_of_all_tww2_new_information/
no bully plz

>>180495123
At least it's not raining inside! ha ha!

>>180495235
what's a shower other than a small rain cloud if you really think about it....

>>180495112
That'll do nicely. Cheers.


While I'm here some anon recommended the other day that as the VC I try going South and conquering the empire the long way round.

So far this has been one of my most enjoyable campaigns. The dorfs all hate me but the orcs love me. Grimgor won the badlands bowl and while I had to eat Averland on the way down, the empire has almost entirely ignored me. Except Stirland so I ate them too.
110 turns in and I still haven't built a unit recruitment building due to a massive amount of huge battle sites.

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>>180495123
>It's raining outside friends
I'm jealous

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>>180495294

>>180494603

You're doing something wrong, either via a mod or just completely incompetent play. Which is saying something when all you have to do is expand your formation width and right click once.

>>180480682
rolinga

>>180495681
Right click twice

>>180495001
>its all women unit
Banshees from 40k and Wardarnces from Fantasy also have Elves [male] in their numbers.

How is Napoleon?

>>180495868
What if Empire was good but you didn't get to murder any natives

>>180495868
Every battle takes 20 minutes

Hm, actually nevermind. I think I just bit of more then I can chew. I just won a battle with 1800 welfs against 2200 welfs.

Is there a way to make a screenshot? When I try it I always just get a blackscreen.

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Artisans of death in defense of the heartland

>>180496046
Mash the button when the loading bar is almost done. You generally get one out of it.

>>180496046
have you tried pressing f12

alternatively make it borderless windowed and use the snipping tool

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>>180496143

>>180496046
spam f12 right when the loading screen begins/ends. I usually do begins as that avoids the sometimes dark screenshots you get if you do it when it ends

>>180496046
Just use Gyazo or something like that on fullscreen windowed

>>180496160

Is there a button combination for borderless window?

>>180496147

Nope.

>>180495763

Marching units with an attack order will still charge just before they enter melee.

>>180496662
You might find it in options anon.

>>180496764
Ever since (I think) Rome 2 it is either in the graphics menu, or when you just hit windowed.

>>180496865
Yeah, Shogun 2 didn't have it AND IT WAS A PAIN IN THE ASS TO PLAY IT BORDERLESS

I still have a file on my desktop that makes Shogun 2 launch borderless
But it's still not perfect

>>180496865
meant for >>180496662

Should I get Total War: Warhammer or just wait until II is released?

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>>180480682
Rolls for the Roll god

>>180496984
Get both.

>>180497125
This

Katanah Kachi

>>180496984
Get it. It's genuinely been enormously good fun. If you're into the more at all it's a hundred times better, and if you aren't you will be pretty fast.

DUDE CLIMATE CHANGE L M A O

>>180496984
I would get TWW now while its on sale, that way you get it for cheap and if you play/like it you can also decide if you want the dlc and get it for cheap. If you get both you will access to the old world factions in the combined campaign whenever it releases

Marc Antony did nothing wrong.

>>180496758
Yeah but if you right click twice they know you're really serious about it

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>>180497245
woops forgot my pic

>>180497423
looks like you should conquer Yemen

>>180497423
I don't know why they made climate change irreversible. It seriously kills the late game.

>>180497419
I've also found, especially with flying units targeting enemy characters you have to repeatedly spam the attack command or they happily beat up Zombies while Manfred fucks them in the ass.

>>180496984

Get neither

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Some idiot probably ask this question every day, but what is there even left for the third warhammer game? (Assuming KANGZ will probably be a dlc for II) Orge Kingdoms? Rewamped Chaos? Full fleshed End Times?

>>180497517
To add to this, why is climate change even a thing in Attila? From what I can tell this period in history had a relatively stable climate.

How long does the summer sale last?

>>180497565
>Age of Sigmar

It's most likely going to be the chaos factions done properly with god unique bits and bobs, chorfs, orgres and so on. Actually really looking forward to chaos not being shit.

>>180497565

Ogre Kingdoms
Daemons
Kislev
Chaos Dwarfs

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>>180497719

>>180497821
Also they'll probably flesh out the current factions quite a bit maybe

>>180497565
>revamped Chaos with 4 Chaos Daemon factions
>Chaos Dorfs /Tomb Kangaroos /Ogres
Pick one.
Or both?

>>180497892
oh right

>>180497565
More Norsca. Just endless Norscan factions riding against eachother on chariots. Everything will be chariots.

>new historical TW set in "never before explored" setting with a focus on interaction figures of the era.
I'm trying to think of an setting with a lot of famous figures other than various Chinese eras, particularly Warring States and Three Kingdoms. Mughal unification of India maybe?? War of the Roses? Revolutionary War was already kinda covered in Empire wasn't it? I don't know if any of them have quite the variety though.

Also whoever said Asian history is boring can go shit themselves, due to being such a dummy.

>>180497990
>>180497821
>>180497728
Sounds good no idea how it would work standalone. Its clear Sega want you you have the full package (only 499.99$). It has to have some other continent.

>>180498072

30 years war

Believe it

>>180498072

it's ww1

>>180498212
Ah, true, they could go that route as well.

>>180498049
>chariots manned by smaller chariots

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>>180498072

>>180498072
I'm kind of more wondering about the "historical flashpoint title" that's releasing before the big history game proper

>an era they have already covered
>period they are fond of, but "haven't done enough justice to yet"
>short period of time where events could have unfolded in any direction
Lots of hints but I sure have no fucking clue what it could be

>>180498246
delete this.

>>180498193
>It has to have some other continent
Realm of Chaos?

>>180498072
Could be the American Civil War.

>>180498072
How assmad would yuropeeins be if it was a Civil War total war?

>>180498449
That's just fucking retarded

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>Chaos dwarfs

Sorry bros, not habbening outside blood bowl

>>180498449
>American Civil War

Nigger, why not just go full Victoria and just have ACW as a campaign pack?

>>180498449
I was kind of thinking this.
>>180498495
Why is it retarded?

>>180498193
The warhammer world has a massive arctic circle which is all chaos anon. The world doesn't stop at Norsca.

I really hope that the actual chaos wastes are truly and utterly bonkers like they should be. Raining custard and 80s Heavy Metal.

>>180498571
see>>180498549

>>180478796

if were going by domino's type of pizza then meteor with bbq sauce crust

>>180498072
It's Total War: Origin of the Species. Ug wants Blug's stick. Blug and Thrug team up against Ug and Frug to defend their stick.

>>180498457
civil war would be terrible for total war

like how the fuck does that work you have multiple confederate factions that fight each other?
you would have to REALLY stretch for playable factions and for units

Ultimate General Gettysburg is a solid game but also a great showcase as to why you shouldn't make a Total War game out of the setting

Convince me not to buy all of the DLCs for TW. Warhammer right now. I'm fucking doing it. This and Tabletop Simulator wlll dry up my Sales money.

>>180498617

It's total war: Genesis

you team against god with the serpent and get cucked by eva agents

the dlc is the exodus with reused rome 2 egypt assets

we iz gobbos!

>>180498670
Buy beastmeme, elfmeme and dwarf/goblin ones

The rest are worthless

>>180498670

Don't buy Chaos, the campaign is very boring. Wait for 3 and the almost certain Chaos rework.

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>>180498737
Total War: Dune

Total War: Total War

Can't wait to command Hitler's general unit in a field battle in Poland next to squares of tanks

>>180498537

I mean, they are though.

They're literally gonna start scraping the bottom of the barrel for factions that have never even had real rosters, and you're claiming that Chaos Dwarfs won't make it? Get outta here.

Not to even mention them talking about eventually adding "All 16 major races" a number that doesn't make sense without Chaorfs

>>180498457

Personally I would be a little buttblasted that's for sure, not the type to go on jewtube and write comments about it tho but I wouldn't buy it either.

>>180498571
For one, only two real factions. Second, it'd upset the player base no matter how they handle it. They either alienate people by allowing you to play as the Confederacy or by not allowing you to play as the Confederacy. Not to mention how they'd handle slavery. It's an era that in terms of gameplay mechanics would be interesting but is just too much of an emotional powderkeg for Americans, especially in today's politically charged environment.

Only asking here because I trust your guy's opinions and /v/ is a hellhole. Should I get bloodbowl 2 and mordheim? I heard mordheim is grindy. How did bloodbowl 2 stack up to the first one?

>>180491735
>There must be something I miss out on...

well for starters


Skirmish they're not meant to be played like a cookie cutter anvil hammer race

>>180498072

it's Total war: hooligans

>>180498670
Get them all except the blood DLC. They're genuinely all fun and with a mod or two, especially SFO chaos is actually not bad at all.

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>>180498967
>tfw we will never get Total War Scramble for Africa aka Total War Slave Slayer because of muh politics

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>>180498843

>>180499082
>scramble for africa
>slaves

You need to brush up on your history, anon.

>>180498906
Not that hard if they are counting stuff like 3 bretonian faction and 3 flavors of orcs as ''''''''''factions''''''''''

>>180499156
imo the negro is always a slave no matter if he thinks they count his vote or not

>>180499082

>Complains about PC culture while swallowing the bullshit revisionist idea that everything white people ever wanted with Africa was about "muh slavery"

Get outta here

>>180498789
but I thought you need the grim/grave in order to play Empire in Multiplayer.

>>180498802
yeah I never liked Hordes, even in the Barbarian Invasion back in the day.

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>not wanting Total War: Victoria so you can waggle your Willy all over France.