/agdg/ - Aviary Game Dev General

i would've made a chicken op if it weren't for you meddling kids

first for gogem

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xth for music bros are often willing to give away their music for free

First for 0 being a value

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>>180457876
http://tools.aggydaggy.com/tools.html

>>180456829
If you're into SQL, let me do a progress webm for you, hang on

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7th for javascript """""programmers"""""

git is so fucking comfy

>find a weird bug that wasn't there before
>I can just reset back to each commit and find out exactly where the bug started and what is causing it

>>180457982
Its better than html/css """"programmers""""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGYl1uQWVs

3 basic areas archetypes that I'm relatively happy with now. Spooky forest looks crappiest because I did it first, but I can't spend forever touching them up.

Still need to do a proper water shader and fix the movement algorithm so it doesn't jerk whenever the player changes destination slightly.

>>180458072
>bullying frontend devs so you end up having to write CSS yourself

>>180458131
Very nice!
You might want to add some sfx like rustling leaves, crows, grass noises to make the enviroment feel more genuine and the walking more heavy.

>>180458131
love how smoothe the camera is

>>180458248
Too be fair, css is getting more and more advanced. You now have things like css grid and you'll probably have native sass support in the future.

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>>180458131

Honestly, I wouldn't spend too much effort on sound and music.

When I'm playing ARPGs I'm often have the music and ambient sound turned down so I can listen to my own stuff.

Looking good though. What is going to differentiate it from other ARPGs on the market. I see the digging mechanic, but does it do anything else unique?

>>180458357
Thanks, and yeah that's a good idea. I know environment specific footstep noises are on the list at some point.

>>180458467
>When I'm playing ARPGs I'm often have the music and ambient sound turned down so I can listen to my own stuff.
kys

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Can I get a quick rundown on hopoo?

>>180458017
>just reset back to each commit
nigga, no.

git bisect

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>>180458467
Sorry but no action here, it's a boring turn based RPG. I didn't have any combat in that video but it does exist.

>>180456175
how did you find a team?

>>180458634
nigga it's easier to just click "reset to commit"

now I can easily set the starting point manually on maps. there.

>>180458731
can't see shit senpai

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>>180458529

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776393/

> Music and memories of associated events

Autobiographical information associated with musical melodies is evoked when we hear relevant music or when we are engaged in conversation about music or episodes and events in our life in which music has been important. Hearing music associated with our past often evokes a strong 'feeling of knowing'. We have this feeling for many songs without knowing the title or text of the songs. We are, however, better at recalling the titles of the tunes we listen to (when the tunes are instrumental) than at remembering a melody by simply reading or hearing its title. The opposite pattern occurs when remembering vocals, for which the titles of the songs are much better cues than the melodies [3]. The finding of this link between text and music, which suggests that music is encoded in semantic memory like text, is of particular importance. Many researchers believe that music is encoded in the brain by the perceptual memory system, which organizes auditory information into melodies and rhythms, rather than by the semantic memory system, which encodes meaning. Nevertheless, musical information could be associated with emotional and semantic information (associative memory), either indirectly or directly, as was shown [3], even if it is not directly related to semantic information.


I use music as an associative memory aid. When I play a game I will choose an album of around 20 songs and play them on repeat while playing. I then take those songs and put them in a big playlist.

Whenever I listen to the playlist, those specific tracks will trigger memories of the game and that engages emotions and memories of the experience - like I'm playing the game again for the first time.

When I listen to my whole playlist, I pretty much go through each of the games I have ever played in my mind and feel the same emotions I got from that game.

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>>180458731

I remember this concept. That is a great idea.

> Do players get little card packs when they loot stuff - like hearthstone?

Why don't you do a team based system. Seems like a waste only to have one avatar. You could to the whole Divinity: Original Sin thing, but with card battles.

>>180459031
>not just jerking off over your playlist so you can orgasm handsfree just by listening to it again

>>180459171
>You could to the whole Divinity: Original Sin thing, but with card battles.
Ain't that almost Baten Kaitos ?

>>180459031
I don't care what you do, you're still one dumb motherfucker for suggesting that a dev shouldn't "spend too much effort on sound and music." just because you are a muteshitter.

>>180459171
Thanks! Yeah you'll get card packs as loot from dungeons, but I haven't implemented a loot system yet. The reason you only control one character is because it's multiplayer, the server/client stuff is already done.

new Game Maker!

>>180459031
I listened to Elephant by the White Stripes on repeat while doing the undersea world of Dark Cloud.

Whenever I listen to the album or play that bit of the game it instantly reminds me of the other.

>>180459031
Isn't that basically just a game soundtrack?

>dat deus ex music
>dose uplink songs

>Hearing music associated with our past often evokes a strong 'feeling of knowing'
There was a thread where anon became an hero, and someone suggested this as the thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swd9d2VfQBk
and now whenever I hear it instantly puts me back in the mood from that night. Its painful but also comforting to know I'm still capable of feeling things.

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>>180458771
>says git is comfy
>doesn't even use git bisect

>>180459283

Never heard of it before, had a look. Yeah that is what I was thinking except in a more XCOM way.

Except, you could have cards that interact with the environment or between team members for combos.

>>180459031
but what if the game is shit?
did you just ruin 20 songs?

>>180459738
>>180459171
>>180459031
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>>180457982
Can you please stop with the animes? This isn't /a/.

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working hard

>>180459840
But it clearly says /a/gdg in the thread title

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>>180459840

>>180459840
Sure but where is your game?

>>180459796
Baten Kaitos didn't have that but it had cards that interacted with each other or transformed as the game went on (bananas becoming ripe for example). I thought that was pretty neat.

Are there any newer single-player games where the gameplay is similar to Dota and LoL? That is, you move by right clicking and have your attacks/abilites on QWER or similar. I haven't really seen anything like that t b h. And no, no Diablo, Pillars or anything like that, it's not the same thing. Just pure action.

>>180459807

Yeah, that is the downside.

I usually only reserved my music memory association method for games I played more than a month (WoW, PoE, EvE, Warthunder, FTL, BF2142 etc.)

>>180459846
>all those hidden hands

>>180460293
Transistor iirc

>>180460293
theres not single offline mobas and one that dota is spewing out is just diablo clone

>>180460420
4/8 it's not that bad

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>>180460293

Dota/LoL is literally Diablo 3.

Grim Dawn plays a little like Dota/LoL. I guess the closest thing would be Torchlight/Torchlight 2.

>>180459840

>>180460420
Only three out of eight. Not that awful.

>>180459924
anime technology and futa?

>>180459846
the girl on the right should have her right hand on her hip her position is not natural

>>180458060
kek boku nobody was bringing that up. But you did.

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Still early days but it at least does stuff now.

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okay now i am adding a third font, this one is for high resolution mode

Have you acquired enough skills with gamedev that you were able to get a job? Did you profit from this in any way?

>>180461058
Yes but I'm presently unemployed, waiting for my ex-boss to set up a location so I can run it, and yes in a lot of ways including monetarily.

>>180459595
>800 dollars for console export
>800 dollars for EACH console, not all
wew

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>>180460807
I didn't like how it looked but I guess you are right

>>180459846
wow CUTE!

>>180461201
That's her stomach though. Is that the joke?

>>180461201
anon that's all wrong

>>180461058
I became a better programmer through gamedev enough that I secured my best job ever yeah.

>>180461161
That is nice to hear. I feel like game dev is actually a perfect thing for me to do as a hobby, since I pretty much do 3D, music, programming etc. separately anyway. I can put all of that into practice on a game project I guess.

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>>180461201
i meant like this

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>>180461201

> You should pay me for this shit

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Reposting:

Need some help.
My code checks the square of the character's vector, to check that it isn't bigger than 1.This prevents the character from going faster diagonally.

The problem I'm having is that when the character jumps, it stutters each time it reaches >1f, obviously because it's taking into account the Y value too.
What would be a fix for this?

I've learned about programming in years of amateur gamedev dabbling because I just suck too much at it, I'm too slow and I can't get the hang of it. I still wanna make something, but I'm done pretending I'm gonna learn it and gain any kind of competence.

>>180461628
What would I do without you, anon

What are some games with good inventory management UI?

>>180461668
practice makes perfect

>>180461668
I mean I haven't. Fuck.

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>>180461171
you might as well bite the bullet and buy all of them for 1500

>>180461668
Learn general programming before game programming.
Tank a textbook and you'll have the fundamentals of how high level languages work and how OOP works.

If you want to learn the basic logic of game programming use a graphical based one like Construct 2.

Game Maker doesn't get shitposted nearly enough. Fags save all their butthurt for Unity.

>>180461885
>practice makes perfect
No, precisely, it doesn't. Heavy studying makes perfect.

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>>180461274
luv u
>>180461614
>>180461280
>>180461274
>>180461628
Thank you everyone, we are getting there

>just want to model
>using blender
>oh it's good
>trying to work with materials, normal maps etc.
>why is this shit so overcomplicated
>thinking about what will happen if i want to do more than just simple modelling

will it become a nightmare?

>>180462042
It's already known as a shit engine even by GM users.

>>180462042
Game Maker doesn't get any praise, people just use it to get shit done

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Unity wins.

>>180461058
Knowing how to use git for basic projects was probably enough to get me hired as an intern.

>>180462123
the behavior of light is a complicated phenomenon and you need a bunch of shit to fake it reasonably well. if you don't want to deal with all the work that goes into making convincing materials then go for an artstyle that does not depend on realistic lighting.

>>180462103
arm looks laughably short now

>>180462042
it's not good enough to trigger anyone

>>180462086
It's both, you retard.

>>180462356
it's crazy how hoppo is gonna win. he just makes good games. its like even after he could have quit and gotten lazy when he got millions of dollars, he didn't. and that's why he is very respectable

>>180462123
Isn't it that you will have to recreate materials in your engine of choice anyway? You don't need to do it in Blender.>>180462370

>>180462103
thats one tiny hand

>>180462576
Well I imagine if I were to make millions I would get extremely bored and depressed if I didn't keep making games.

>>180462370
That is so true, knowledge of git is a must (and I hate it, though).

(Accidentaly quoted you in previous post btw)

>>180462602
Why did you give me a (you)? Hit send too soon?

>>180462663
t. Notch

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>>180461879

Now I'm just getting carried away.

This art stuff is addictive.

>>180462576
I'm not very familiar with the names here. Hoppo is that guy who made Risk of Rain, right? Did he make that game alone or? How long did it take?

>>180462663
This. I won't let myself end up like Notch

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I'm trying to do the interface for my game and I don't know what I'm doing.

Thoughts on adding a blur shader for the background when the inventory is on? I'm not sure if that kind of effect goes well with pixel art.

which of the software licenses should I choose for my free and hopefully collaborated project.

I feel like I don't want the Linux tier eternal free software. I think that a license which makes the project free and open source, but permits its derivatives to be whatever, should be reasonable.

I need help here.

>>180461058
I never tried to get a job related to programming, but I can read a dozen or so languages without any issue, design non-game related things and so on.

I just feel like programming as a job in a industry setting is very different than how I work as a hobbyist.

>>180462943
just put a slightly transparent box over the background when the inventory is up, blur is shit

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I've made a mockup on paint.net. This is close to what I want it to look like in the background so the inventory system stands out. Not sure if it's a good idea to blend those pixels.

Can I find a list of you guys tumblr/twitter/etc. anywhere? Kind of like to look at the progress here and there but it would be great to actually follow you.

>>180462963
bsd mit

>>180463127
subscribbled

>>180463069
I'm already doing that

>>180462929
Notch was depressed because his wife sued(she was only with him because money) him and he realized all his 'friends' were just around him because of his money too.

So now every time he tries to make something, he doesnt know if people like it because they want to get closer to his money or because they actually like his game. That can really fuck with a person.

>>180461171
>>180461903

At that point you have to really question how many sales you expect from the xbone market.

>>180462734
Now I just need to set it up for my project in UE4. I really don't want to use GitHub what are some other options for using Git with UE4? Could I somehow use GitTortoise with it because that's what I use at work.

>>180463275
He is lazy

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>>180463127

>>180463275
>he realized all his 'friends' were just around him because of his money too.
That's what happens when you fool yourself into thinking the people you work with are friends. Poor guy had just literally never had a job before.

>>180463275

Well, notch has a terrible personality apparently so it should be easy to figure out once he realizes that.

>>180463275
>So now every time he tries to make something, he doesnt know if people like it because they want to get closer to his money or because they actually like his game.
He probably releases random shit anonymously all the time, he could be in this very room...

I'm notch

>>180463441
>Poor guy had just literally never had a job before
He worked in game dev for years before he made stuff on his own

>>180463393
>Have money to do anything you want on the planet
>would rather sit in a room alone all day and dev something that might fall flat on its face

I don't think a creative billionaire exists. Once you get that much money you just pay other people to execute your ideas.

>>180463535
pls fund my game

>>180463549

That really doesn't count as a job.

>>180463549
Are you saying he had a job at an actual game company? Which one?

>>180463275
>>180463441

That's what happens when you give a poor person a lot of money.

I read an article somewhere that said 90% of lottery winners are broke within 5 years of winning, because they just don't know how to handle money.

Wealth isn't about how much money you have, its about how you make that money work for you.

>>180463535
hello i know you from kindergarten can i have 100k?

>>180463701
King.com, the jackasses who made Candy Crush Saga (after he left)

>>180461651
You could do some bandaid fix like
vector3 interimVel = velocity;
interimVel.y = 0;
square-check of interimVel

>>180463710
>90% of lottery winners
That's because people who gamble usually are shitty with money in the first place(hence playing the lottery).

They're also not going to write articles on people who live well adjusted lives after winning the lottery because thats not what people want to read, so you get a bunch of bias results.

>>180463710
Notch is not going broke. Ever.

>>180463843
Have I basically just gone about this the wrong way then?
Would there be a better way of limiting the speed the character can go when moving diagonally?

>>180463910
Not to mention that any statistic will probably only include the people who chose to go public with their win, which is a silly thing to do.

Why would you want to be in the paper with your name and location, telling everyone you have a lot of money.

>>180461651
When you say check the square, do you mean that you're normalising the input vector?

>>180464021

Divorce is a dangerous thing. Richer men than Notch have been taken to the cleaners and been left with nothing.

Never say never.

Don't let women know you have money, it's a recipe for disaster.

>>180464215
Exactly.
Either someone is going to try to rob you or find something to sue you with.

I can't think of a single good reason why anyone would want to expose themselves.

>>180464374
>Don't let women know you have money, it's a recipe for disaster.

kek

>>180463137
the BSD and MIT seem to permit the selling of the source project

I would like to apply a license which doesn't permit selling of this project. This is because, I intend this to be a portfolio project and I don't want to get money involved. I want to avoid conflicts where people do work for free for this project and then someone else profits from this project. (For example by copying this project and uploading it to a place where money can be charged for it.)

Acceptable would be a situation where this project FIRST recieves substantial modification and then is sold.

Also, one single licence should extend to non-code contents of the project aswell, right? Assuming that no separate licenses have been explicitly made about those contents.

>>180464478
Always tease

>>180464610
Creative Commons?

>>180464374
>Don't let women know you have money
That's kind of hard to do when you have your own personal candy room.

seriously why does having money make people retards

>inb4 its an investment

>>180464156
Not really, I think doing >>180463843 and then using .normalize is pretty common.

I need more webm of that cute low-poly wolf, you know the one

>>180465104
disgusting

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>>>/ic/3030704
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>>180464730
even a saint like you would build a bunch of pointless shit into your house if you had infinity money like notch.

can I get a discord invite?

>>180465764
no

>>180464730
Because its fun?

I mean I wouldn't do that specifically but then I might change all my walls to some gigeresque texture or at least paint the entire house that way or something. Like why not.

>>180465297
It's simple. Everyone can become talented at anything, as long as the person is physically capable of doing the thing.
Some people are born with a natural affinity for something, or they were raised in an environment where they spent many years around something. These factors can make a person become talented faster. But at the end of the day everyone has to put in the work to become talented.

>>180465764
https://discord.gg/DSzZa9K
You better have a game ready to post. Nodevs are not welcome.

>>180464374
>>180464689
He sold his fucking game to Microsoft for billions of fucking dollars. It was international news. You don't "hide" things like that from women you doofus.

>>180466221
>Nodevs are not welcome
You have quite a few people you need to ban then

>>180466343
There is a nodev containment channel. But it's best if no new nodevs joined.

>>180466515
Its called a breeding ground. Only fools believe in containment channels.

>>180466343
This. It's a sham really.

>>180466515
>ONLY THE CIRCLE JERK VETERAN NODEVS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR YEARS ARE ALLOWED
Kill yourselves chat. Kill yourselves.

>>180467286
>t. nodev shitposter
Good to know you have no game. But why are you here if you have no game?

>>180466221
>Nodevs are not welcome.
Why are they moderators then?

>>180467286
It's funny how the old steamchat clique is full of nodevs but they never seem to complain about those ones in particular and instead sperg out over actual devs.

>>180467413
Vine uses Godot now, she has become a yesdev.

>>180466515
>>180467397
Why would you create a "containment zone" for nodevs and shitposters in your chat instead of just banning them?

Is it because they've been circlejerking you for so many years and you are now super best friends and can't bear to let one another go? Because that doesn't sound like a game dev chat to me that sounds like a clubhouse for lonely faggots.

Can I use Game maker with something like live2d or Dragonbones?

>>180458549
Made RoR, the most successful game in /agdg/. People got jealous and the shitposting drove him away. Then he made Deadbolt and is now making RoR2.

>>180467505
You know I'm not talking about Vine.

a game where you're a chatroom moderator and you have to advance your clique and protect your position

>>180467537
>implying anyone likes the nodevs
Do you really think banning them works? Haven't you seen you-know-who on /agdg/? He gets banned but always comes back. The same shit will happen on discord. Nodevs do not care. In fact removing the nodevs was attempted weeks ago, and they were all freaking out and shitposting on yesdev channels.

>>180467678
Like politics but even more autistic

>>180467678
First mission: Instead of banning your friends who are shitposters and nodevs create a containment zone for them.

>>180467817
>Do you really think banning them works?
Why are you bothering to say "nodevs are not welcome" if they are in fact welcome and you harbor them happily because "banning them doesn't work"?

> Haven't you seen you-know-who on /agdg/? He gets banned but always comes back.
As anon. It's different when someone has to register to use your system. Sure they can keep coming back but it's trivial to remove them. You don't just fucking let them stay.

Why would you come to a place for discussing and showing your game projects without the intention of making a game?

Is this what a mental illness is like?

>discord moderators are so cucked they argue for keeping their pet shitposters
This sounds like the kind of exclusive and high value discord I want to get involved with!

You people are fucking retarded.
Post your video game progress you dumb shitposting faggots.

>>180468228
>implying any of u-i mean, them have a game

>>180467817
>In fact removing the nodevs was attempted weeks ago, and they were all freaking out and shitposting on yesdev channels.
In other words you let nodev shitposters fully raid and take over your chat.

Do you realize how fucking wrong it is to tell agdg that nodevs are not allowed and pretend you're some kind of gamedev club? You guys are fucking delusional. Stay out of the thread.

>>180468063
Loneliness and depression is a form of mental illness so yes

Question. I'm really interested in making a game myself. That being said, where would the best place be to start at? I thought to myself maybe working on music would be alright, but I'm basically coming from a background of fuck all. Would it just better better to start off on something like GM:S?

Share some shitty workarounds you had to do to get features in your game working properly (ie Fallout train hat)

With Tiled2Unity I altered a function to take a Color property from Tiled and turn it into a Vector3 so I can make moving blocks in Tiled.

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>>180468063
>he is not mentally ill

>>180468228
No.

>>180468346
pick any engine, read the manual and just like make game

>>180468346
>Would it just better better to start off on something like GM:S?
yes
then whatever you pick, look it up on youtube along with "tutorial"

>>180467493
They pulled that "what is your game" shit on me acting like I was on the chopping block and I showed them then I asked some of them where their game was and they unironically smiled and said they didn't have one. These were chatters who were always talking in there so I assumed they were yesdevs. Then some of the other yesdevs made excuses or weak jokes about it like "haha yeah they are nodevs but they will make a game soon or else". I personally found that revolting.

>>180468346
For 2D GMS1 used to be the best option. It has engine shortcomings but it has a near endless community that gladly provides extensive examples and solutions for nearly every issue you could encounter.

Unfortunately GMS2 isn't as good and the fact that YoYo Games has made it much harder to acquire a GMS1 license really rubs me the wrong way, so I'd recommend either Godot (better engine, comparatively small community with worse documentation) or Unity (worse for 2D than GMS1 or 2 but better documentation than Godot).

>>180468772
Same lel, he would know my game if he even bothered to check the last demo day but apparently that's too much for a mod.

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>>180458017
>not putting an error log checkpoint in your methods/functions so you know right where the problem is

>>180469034
Bugs become a lot more nebulous once you go past the basic framework stuff.

>>180469025
>enter a demoday they made
>they don't care and even ask you WIYG
kek
fuck chat

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>>180463275
Notch literally just got lucky as fuck. Minecraft is a clunky piece of garbage written in java that got saved by modding communities and being bought. I highly doubt he has any real talent in him.

>>180468772
>>180469025
>>180469190
where are your games

>>180469351
i don't need a gaem i stay in teh nodev containment zone (:

>>180469330
Minecraft is technically horrible but it's a fun game, I bought it before the mod craze and all because it was pretty novel at the time and I don't regret the time I spent on it.

>>180469474
>thread is the nodev containment zone now
time to evacuate

all chats are shit

>>180469679
There's actually another discord besides the agdg one for gamedev and it's pretty good because the moderation there is strict.

>>180469746
>strict moderation
>good
what the fuck are you doing here

>>180469746
all chats are SHIT

>nodevs complaining about nodevs
Where are all of your games?
There hasn't been progress in 2 hours.

>>180469746
if your moderation is strict, then why not shill it here
yesdevs would appreciate it while nodevs would get fucked anyway

>>180469859
>EDGE

>>180469859
I hate so much about the things you choose to be

>>180469930
>if your moderation is strict
Not my discord faglord
>then why not shill it here
That would be a terrible idea. If anyone really cares they will look it up.

>>180463843
>>180464883
I tried it, but now gravity doesn't have any effect, and jumping doesn't work.

>>180470104
>type in google "gamedev discord"
>reddit
>reddit
>tons of other results
>reddit

>>180470239
>trying to discourage people
Nice try steamchat.

>>180470339
where is your discord?

I'm putting my engine development on hiatus so that I can finish my game faster, gonna use Godot. Guess I finally fell for the memes, hoping to go through Godotscript documentation tonight.
Thankfully most of my "progress" earlier was just bits and pieces of engine I wrote in C++, so this is pretty much a blank slate for me, and a new perspective at the gameplay.
Maybe I got too invested in enginedevving and forgot what I was originally making the engine for.
In a way, godot stopped me from straying from the righteous yesdev path.

>>180470051
>>180469979
You are probably new to this online communities thing but I can tell you from personal experience that strict moderation always, ALWAYS leads to insufferable circlejerking, it's "nicer" in a "hey let's hang out and have fun :))" kind of way but it's far less useful, it's just a plain waste of time. I'm here to have my game ripped apart by anon shitposters, not to make friends.

I'm in the alternate discord lookin for familiar names. 500+ coders in here though.

>>180470414
always believe in memes anon

>>180470462
Being mean doesn't have to be against the rules

>>180470468
>coders
Great, but are there gamedevs?

>>180470468
>unironically going to reddit dev league discord

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How's this look? Ignore the long arms, I already know.

>>180470468
>>180469746
I hope you aren't talking about GDL because that one manages to be worse than agdg.

>>180470590
His head is manly but his body is effeminate

>>180470580
I don't see any mention of reddit anywhere.

>>180470743
He's obviously talking about GDL which is reddit central.

>>180470593
Looks fine to me.

>>180470590
need environment for context

>>180470590
>long arms
doesn't look disproportionate. dude got some pussy ass shoulderwidth though, manlets shouldn't be allowed in games.

>>180470537
Apparently, the "show-off-your-work" channel has lots of progress even just from this morning.

>>180470414
which game?

>>180470224
If you want proper help, post your code.

>>180470414
You fell for the best meme.
God speed anon, looking forward to your game.

>>180470414
>I got too invested in enginedevving and forgot what I was originally making the engine for.
EngineDevs in a nutshell

>Godot
>"Python like scripting language"
Agh.

>>180471526
3.0 will have C#

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So i finally have time to start working, i've spent the past few weeks planning what i'll do, i will post progress here and i'll write details about what i did every time, i may trigger a lot of people because i will not use the best way to do things, starting with how i handled map depth, i have a tileset of tiles, each representing a depth from 1 to 6, a map is composed of two layers, the depth layer and what's actually shown ingame, in edit mode the later layer is flat and has no depth, upon loading the tiles will be offset by depth, this will keep things simple, the map can be of any size, i will implement map rotation eventually, i'm using godot which comes with an Astar algorithm for ai stuff.
Now i'll work on movements, units can move 1 depth normally, light units can jump 2 depths, heavy units cannot, on melee attacks, short weapons have 1 tile and 1 depth reach, medium weapons have 1 tile and 2 depth reach, and long weapons have 2 tiles and 3 depth reach, long range weapons can attack any depth with bows having advantage when attacking low ground.
As for art i will only use placeholders until late stage, this game will be free.

>>180471692
you can use the tool keyword to make the depth graphics show up in the editor too

>>180471692
ok

>>180471082
I never mentioned it on here, or anywhere else, but it is a turn based strategy. I wanted to implement some unique mechanics and tools for the game and brush up on my programming and didn't want to use unity/GM/UE4/whatever so I decided to make an engine for the game, but today as I was browsing through this thread, I realised "4 months and no progress to speak of,no sprites, no resources, no nothing except spaghetti code written at 3 in the morning", so I decided to drop the idea until I have a game. I'll later resume the enginedevving and remake the game in it.
It was just too much time consuming and didn't leave me much time to focus on art and music, but damn I learned a lot of things I didn't knew earlier.
>>180471469
Yeah, but hey, now I can actually post my progress here instead of being a pseudo yesdev lurker
>>180471663
For a second I though of waiting for godot 3.0, but I think 2.x can't be that bad eh

I will check out Godot now. I'm in the thick of another Unity game though so I know I won't be switching, but if I like it I might use it for my next game.

Can we stop with these walls of text.

>>180472029
Also, as I'm gonna figure out godot as I go about making the game, I'm thinking of documenting the process or write some sort of proper concise godot tutorials for nodev anons

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Here goes nothing.

>>180471802
once i make enough progress i will try to make a custom tilemap plugin with depth per tile

Is godot the entire engine really a 20 meg .exe?

>>180473225
yes but you need the export templates too which are about 20mb each

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>Pokemon
>8 moves instead of 4
>4 offence, 4 defense
>on my turn I pick an offence move and you pick a defense move and both moves activate before damage is done

>>180473225
It's almost 30mb, but yeah, that's the whole engine.

>>180473225
That's what I was surprised at. Seriously, I expected it to be 100mb at least, but it actually around 28mb, a single executable.
That's what appealed to me the most, I automatically drop any software above 300mb.

>>180473730
yep, godot 3 will be the final nail in the coffin for unity devs

you guys could at least stagger the shill posts a bit, it's too obvious like this

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>Godot shills
You guys don't even have an asset store, you can't buy a game like I can do with unity.

Fuck Godot and the horse it rode in on.

>>180473986
>You guys don't even have an asset store
it does though
https://godotengine.org/asset-library/asset

>>180473918
Amen.
>>180473964
>shill
>FOSS
You have autism anon

>>180474124
Anon I'm funposting, I'm a lazy guy learning how to """enginedev"""

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How quaint. I'm sure this has the potential to make faster 3D games than Unity but you certainly wouldn't guess it with the demos.

>bokus kickstarter amount actually went down

whaaaaat

name one FOSS program that is better than its proprietary competition

>>180474671
dead on arrival

Wow Godot is such a good engine, and it works even if you don't have much programming experience.

I'll be using it on my next project for sure.

>>180474713
TuxRacer :^)

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>>180474671

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programmed word wrap and text stuff.

dead dreams

how hard is to make a gardening game?

>>180470590
Arms look proper length for his proportions

>>180475073
kek

>>180475171
hard as you want it to be. but harvest moon our so ,not to hard. besides all the drawing.

>>180475171
it's easy to make a gardening game
it's not easy to make a good gardening game

So, impressions on Godot after using it for a bit:

- It's all there
- Feels like a viable environment to dev whatever game you have in mind
- I like how the scripting is handled in the IDE
- I like how so many second nature macros and controls you are used to using in Unity have been applied, feels very at home
- Still miles behind Unity in terms of workflow but that is something you can easily train yourself to overcome

overall switching back to Unity and making some progress there felt like breathing more oxygen rich dev air. But the godot is still prime with potential, and will be a fun engine to conquer, so I will probably make a game with it in the future. For now my main project will remain Unity.

>monolith barely selling at all
>charming little game like bokube cant even net $5000 on kickstarter

what now

For me, it's Godot. The best engine.

>>180475550
>monolith barely selling at all
"no"

>>180473918
Really the only reason I would use Godot in the future is because change is good and I want to try a new engine.

The real reason most will use it is because they don't want to pay Unity to use a dark theme and omit the splash screen. For Unity devs who already paid up, they're not going anywhere.

>>180475308
>>180475395
what If I want to make it about gardening plant girls?

>>180475171
pretty easy, you have a grid of your farm with simple data (empty, watered, has a seed, has a grown seed...) then a bunch of timers to check if a seed has grown, programming wise you can do it in a day if you know what you'll doing, but art is everything in these type of games

>>180475683
fucking stolen, kiddo

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Im the furfag dev that was posting concept art yesterday, started modeling the main character
any sugestions?

Oh I get it, we're not allowed to like Unity OR Godot.

Sorry sourceposter.

>>180475679
>basing your decisions on the precept of "change is good"
lol

>>180475683
then you have the big hit in your hands

but seriously now, don't expect it to be commercially viable now that everyone and their dogs are doing stardew valley clones

>>180475907
why does everyone want to make an SV clone when they could be cloning [beloved old game] instead?

>>180475907
I'm not cloning stardew valley.

I want it to be like recettear though.
about capturing plant girls like pokemon in the wild then using them in your chinese shops to make items to sell them to good goys in the west.

>>180476013
because people are idiots

>>180476052
can you concept art?

>>180475683
STOP STEALING MY IDEAS REEEEEEEEEE

>>180476149
I got some anon to masturbate once over my waifu drawing, does that count?

>>180475897
Well no, I also looked at it and it seems like a good engine. So why not try it? It could end up being my main.

>>180475803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQBfNoi28Z4

>>180475683
stealing this

>>180476273
Who gives a fuck, it looks cool.

Autist

>>180475648
It has sold like maybe 2000 copies.

I would've expected at least 20000 for the first week and I don't even like the game.

>>180476339
>it looks cool
I don't think it looks cool.

>>180476389
maybe people not longer think retro is a selling point.

>>180475803
Gonna need to see more to give any sort of critique.

>>180476465
Then don't put it in YOUR game.

Oh wait, you're a fucking nodev.

>>180476273
I like metatron but I don't think Anon is making a game focusing on realism.

godot can't export games to console

>>180476273
Thanks for sharing this

>>180476540
now you've got me thinking, where are the videos from the realistic furry autists? there has to be a sizeable overlap

>>180476504
>any sugestions?
>give suggestion
>FUCK OFF YOU NODEV SHIT I DON'T WANT YOUR OPINION

>>180476273
Wait, people didn't wield swords 2x their size in real life and put them on their backs?

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>>180476497

>>180476675
Your autistic "realism" quip isn't a suggestion, it's being a faggot nodev, kill yourself and do everyone a favour.

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>>180476754
>student version

of course any game won't sell well without proper marketing, unless it's porn or furry, people actively look for that shit.

well, my kickstarter was premature and is going to fail, but I least I'm going to get some media coverage.

>>180476562
That's because console licenses cost money, so it's not something free software can really work with unless someone pays for it.
It is capable though, when Godot was an in house engine before being open source it supported PS Vita and Nintendo DS.

Also I think XBox One is supported since it exports to UWP.

>>180476273
I thought link was a celt

What is the best IDE to use for Java?

Eclipse or NetBeans?

>>180476903
how do you properly market?

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>>180476695

Broadswords are slung behind the back. Anons are just being autistic.

Drawing swords from the back is difficult, but not impossible, though usually they were unslung before battle.

>>180476930
bokube is that you?

>>180477343
fliers

where do i find interesting game tech shit like AI learning and proc-gen examples/discussions? is there some youtube for this stuff, it inspires me to dev when i see some interesting new code thing

>>180477343
if you're rich, spam ads.

but that's not what you're asking. you want to know how to market on no budget. this is hard to answer because marketing is a field where effective tactics are immediately copied, used, and made ineffective. in general, you put your game in from of as many eyes as possible, and you make sure your game is both fun in the moment, and more importantly, memorable.

>>180476476
If anything it's a good example how the failure to communicate to your audience what your game is can cost you. The gameplay isn't really retro at all, only the aesthetic and combining those two possibly wasn't a good idea since the average customer probably takes a glance and sees retro pixelshit and doesn't get intrigued by the game itself.

I do think that at this point making a pixelart game is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot before the race begins. People are sick of it and there's so many games coming out that you don't really lose much by disregarding all games with pixelart in them.

>>180477401
>Broadswords are slung behind the back.
Source that claim (you can't).

>>180477484
gamasutra and gdc i think
check out the F.E.A.R. gdc paper if you havent already

>>180476389
there is so many games these days.

>>180476754
YIFF IN HELL FURFAG

>>180477649
I think at this point pixel art is the lazy route.

>>180476754
yiff in heck doggo

>>180477649
>game comes out and gets [amount of sales]
>THIS IS EVIDENCE OF XYZ MARKET/CONSUMER TREND
No dude. No. You have no fucking clue whether a retro aesthetic is what "cost" Monolith anything. It could just as easily be Isaac-like fatigue or any number of other factors.

>>180476754
got a tumble or twittle

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>>180477826
>>180477863
see you guys there :^)

>>180478047
even without the sword on back autism, you're gonna have massive clipping with that sword

>>180477614
how do i even put my game in front of eyes? just post it everywhere? every community im a member of? name my tf2 scattergun "mygame.itch.io"?

>>180476754
>titties higher poly than head
Priorities

How can I write a good story for my game? How do I inspire myself?

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>>180478008
not yet, i do have a Facebook page

>>180478276
>Facebook page
AHAHAAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhHG

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>>180478047
>Student version

>>180477679

It was rare, as most people historically who used broadswords had horses and carts.

But those who didn't, had the choice of carrying it by hand or slinging it behind the back.

wtf monoloth is fail i expected 200 000 sale at the start and i hate the game

>>180478157
>tweet at influencers on twitter (journos and bigger indie fish). be careful with this or you'll end up looking like the shotgun marketer you are
>actual make friends with devs like a non-retard
>send demos to let's players
>post to gamedev sites like tig
>viral marketing on /v/

but all this is multiplied by how good your game is. and i don't mean how good it is in a technical sense, but how much memetic potential it has. googs's marketing video is actually good here. it's no longer enough to make a good game. you have to make an excellent game now.

>are the screenshots appealing?
> does the game immediately read as something that is worthwhile (monolith failed at this point, according to the devs. people who played it loved it, but not many played it.)?
>is it really something new, or can people rightly dismiss it as x+y or a trend follower?

>>180478276

The blade is far too large for the character.

You should downsize it to the height of the character.

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>>180478157
>name my tf2 scattergun "mygame.itch.io"?

>>180458467
>you shouldn't spend effort on sound and music because I personally listen to my own shit while playing games
yeah bro I wish all games just didn't have any sound so I can just blast dubstep the whole time
I mean who even has sound turned on when they play games?
atmosphere is for fags amirite??

>>180477649
you can make anything work including pixels, you just have to find the right way about doing it

Monolith has a very Cave Story-esque artstyle, very functional and nice to look at but ultimately not all that unique anymore

compare The Last Night, cinematic pixelshit with shaders up the ass, normies are all over that shit even though the game obviously lacks any gameplay to speak of, all they care about is that it looks neat and different from everything else

>>180478803
>atmosphere is for fags amirite??
Basically yeah.

>monolith failed because pixels!
no, it's because the devs are too shy and never bothered to shill it

>>180461171
you know it's not yoyo games setting those prices
that's covering countless bullshit costs from sony/ms
hell, the switch isn't even on there because nintendo makes everybody pay them out the ass to develop for their newest abortion of a console

>>180478902
>The Last Night, cinematic pixelshit with shaders up the ass
This thread would implode if someone here tried to make a game like that.

>tfw it works but you don't know why

>>180478792
im actually going to do that t b h, i fucking top frag as scout, 20 more kills than the next guy

>>180479082
Unexplained behavior is bad behavior.

more like top fag

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Does this track sound heroic to you?

https://soundcloud.com/prutte-1/tomb-of-friends-the-mightiest-hero

>>180479161
No you definitely should, it's hilarious and I would do it myself if I still played TF2, with the appended weapon description of "PLEASE BUY MY FUCKING GAME" or similar.

>>180478902
basically make something that doesn't look generic.

monolith has good pixel art but it looks generic as fuck.

>>180479282
>Does this track sound heroic to you?
Yup

>>180478792
>player name RonPaul2008
>realize people will associate him with getting sniped because of my dick ass camping tactics
s-sorry ron ;_;

>>180477649
>making a pixelart game is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot before the race begins.
>People are sick of it
On the contrary, seeing athletes shoot themselves in the foot before the race would be a big draw for me

So Love2D. Is it actually workable, or am I better off learning another language and using a different engine/environment altogether?

>>180470590
Imbalanced detail between his face and pants for example.. pants have texture/shading, face is a wasteland

>>180477284
>>180477284
anybody?

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>>180479867
I like it, AMA

>>180479953
never did java myself, but everyone i knew in uni used eclipse

Monolith just isn't that exciting. Its really just that fucking simple.

I mean, the game has really nice pixel art and cute atmosphere and juice but at the end of the day it is a competent pixel art rogue-like where you dodge bullets and shoot things.

Thats been done before. The fact that it sold 2000 copies is actually decent.

Redpill me on modulo operator

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today i've got this email
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/657240/Tracks__The_Train_Set_Game/

>>180480026
How easy would it be for a beginner who knows nothing about programming?

>>180476848
What is funny about that?

>>180480274
the jews invented it to steal your erections

>>180480282
what it mean

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>>180480282
>Jump aboard the nostalgia-train!
what's up with agdg devs always calling their own games "nostalgic" or "comfy"