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>Forest actually got combo support!
>Oh wait it is another 2 drop

Kill me now.

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>Hey you, humans! Meet your maker... h-hey! What does that dragon think it's doing!? I saw those humans first, they're MINE!
>I was ordered to slay the humans... so I can't let them fall to the dragon! UGH, now I HAVE to slay the dragon first!
>You humans in the back! I'm gonna help you out for now, so stop your squabbling! ... huh? You want me to save this WHOLE town from the dragon? Aargh!
>This dragon just won't give up! ... wait a minute, why am I helping the humans? Whatever, act first think later! This dragon needs to go, NOW!

2/3 ward or 4/3 for 3PP. Because fuck balance.

tfw forest will never get good cards because
>muh ebin roaches
>muh ebin beeg damage spell
exist.

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>>180438303
>Reddit Dominatorfag mad that his "mommy" lost

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Welcome to wonderland, /svg/

>>180438380
Bolt is balanced, roach is the epitome of bad design. You want good cards? Lose the roach, it's that simple. That's the thing though, elf subhuman players don't want good cards, they want good roach support.

>>180438445
cant see shit

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This is your new meta

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>was already being called a soul conversion with a goblin on it
This card will make midshadow even more obnoxious. You read it here first.

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See you all in 3 months forestfriends hopefully not

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/ourguy/

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Are you hanging in there forestbros?

>>180438380
It is funny that other classes also have broken storm follower and broken damage spell but they are never the reason that certain card can't exist. I am actually impressed that Ben Brode and team 5 manage to make people drink the "muh design space" koolaid when reality proves that people will design insane powercreep cards regardless.

>>180438386
Tfw no Veight leader

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Hit me with a conede senpaitachi 56209

>Blood gets Gold tier Bronze 3 drop
>Sword and Forest get more garbage
What did Cygames mean by this?

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Shadownigger....

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>>180438445
>>180438486
http://appmedia.jp/shadowverse/811412

>>180438582
That's not what design space means. An example of limiting design space is a card like Bahamut which forever invalidates certain late game deck choices.

>>180438629
They meant that forest and sword players don't give as much money as shadow, dragon and blood ones.
Should've bought more prebuilts.

>>180438534
They all hanged themselves on the nearest tree.

>>180438591
Azazel is better

>>180438478
Roach is not the problem. The prove is that csword can handle it well even during the Feena and Gobu time. Now that people got le I am the mad cyclone guy and he is included in every deck roach would never be something hard to deal with anymore. Another neutral ward that is decent will spell the death of roach anyway.

>>180437746
>At the end of your turn
Thanks for fucking nothing holy christ.it's not even the opposite so it can be used with phantom dragon and soulhungry wraith

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>>180438629
It means you can't stay on top for fucking ever. Standard, DE, and RoB domination is enough, time for you to eat some fucking shit like the rest. Balance is literally a zero sum game, other classes can't get their time if Sword and Forest maintain their domination.

>>180438653
im not clicking that shit

>>180438642
Get that updated. Next meta, your ass will be so sore from all the bloodfags.

>>180438670
Funny how no one even runs Bahamut anymore outside of Ramp Dragon

>>180438386

Beasst Dom, Belph, Mastema and Dark General are all A+

Mom would be fine too.

Anything but Azazel.

I propose an alliance with shadowfriends against bloodniggers.

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>>180438620

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>>180438725
But anon, think about all the +5/+5 you can throw with morde!

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>>180438445
>all those blood cards
JUST

Why would people stop playing midshadow next expansion?

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The real crime of this poll is that Duragon-san won't be a new leader.

>>180438670
>>180438750
>Playing a forest combo deck
>Goes way off into the weeds because holy shit dragon fucking kill yourself
>Finally looks like I may have a chance after slogging through the trenches
>He bahamut's my pixie's paradise and Titania's
>With the deck's engine gutted I slowly die over the next 5 turns

>>180438838
It'll only actually work when you're bullying meme decks. And if you were bullying meme decks what's the point of running it.

>>180438876
Dragoon didn't make it?

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Enjoy your fun new meta guys.
I will be sitting here at 2% playrate.

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>>180438847

New pet class

>>180438670
Still drinking the koolaid, I see. I don't see other storm followers "limiting design spce". Also the Bahamut argument is pretty silly since no one but dragon is running them. Once you see cblood and csword rising later, you won't be bitching about it "killing control".

>>180438875
because blood t0

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>>180438847
There are only like two "bad" blood cards.

>>180438916
The 2% will mostly be people doing forest dailies in ranked

>>180438794
t. Waifushitter

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>>180438620
Thanks Luna.

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>>180438908
>Dragoon didn't make it?

I was referring to Aiela.

>>180438951
>doing forest dailies in WD
People will just close the game when they reroll into forest dailies.

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>>180438916
Arisa was too pure for shadowverse, she had to leave us in TotG

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>>180438805
>implying they won't all jump ship to blood
shadow is gonna be back to 3% playrate unplayable garbage in wd

where are you fags getting info from the poll? im no phonescum so i wouldnt know

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>>180438794
>Anything but Azazel.
Fujos always win, anon. I actually don't know why people are crying over dark general when it's obvious that Azazel is going to win, Fujos+animefags > seiyuufags. I don't really care though, I'll be getting my Daria and that is the only thing matters.

>Aiela, Jewelled Dragon Knight
>3pp 2/2 Dragon Gold
>Fanfare: Gain 2 empty play point orbs
>Last Words: Lose a play point orb
get fucked Eris

>>180438875
>3pp best defense or aggro
>4pp cudgel that doesn't need to evolve
>5pp 2/4 Soul Glutton for 2 damage fanfare
>7pp Orb Dragon with storm
>8pp fuck control the card
Midshadow won't be the only topdog. That's for sure.

>>180439053
what leads you to believe that?
what makes you think shadow will be any less AIDS?

>>180439078
Hands off my wife, asshole.

>>180439078
>the one time we actually need azazel to job he pulls ahead
Goddamit, azazel

It is not fair. Every time I see a forestcraft card that is half decent it is always a 2PP 2/2 follower. Does cygames want use to play a deck with 2PP 2/2 followers only?

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>>180439078
W-what is that ogler doing?

>>180439113
samething happened to elana and daria

>>180439053
Shadow will definitely still be Tier 1, we just have to see how much better (if at all) blood will be.

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SAA

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Reminder that Aria(and Yuel) are the best forest girls in the poll and deserve to become new leaders

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FUUUUCK. I got this stupid extra 5 gold from take two. I'm so mad.

Does anyone really care who wins Blood? Vampy and Urias are both top tier, it's not like Sword stuck with the okay dyke and the mouthbreather.

>>180439146
Forest got a 2pp 0/4 ward follower you can't play on turn 2.

>>180439113
>>180439176
I can only see 5 cards out of the new shadowcraft list that will see play. The rest like Dark Alice just seems too hairy to pull off.

>>180438969

Albert and Dragoon are cool. Azazel is just a fuccboi.

>>180439185
>WHY DON'T WE GET A FUCKING OTK TO GO ALONG WITH OUR 12 RAMP? WTF CYGAMES. YOU'RE LUCKY YOU'RE GIVING A BUNCH OF OTHER RETARDED OTK OPTIONS IN WD OR ELSE I'D TOTALLY QUIT!
Dragoniggers really are the worst.

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>>180439227
I had 3x rimewind, 3x kaleido and a levi in my hand. Felt sorry for him.

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>>180439203

The best forest girl wasn't even nominated.

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the new soul conversion on a stick for shadow is really fucking good
triggers your last words in that type of deck, leaves a body and digs deeper for eachtar in midrange

>>180439146
>Liza
>2PP 2/2
>Lily
>2PP 2/2
>Abby
>2PP 2/2
>Tweedles
>2PP 2/2
>>180439260
>Faerie Dragon
>Worse spiderweb imp on turn 2

Stop. We are already dead.

>>180439174
Elana was never that great and nerfs properly killed Daria.

>>180439185
>could evo the bird
>didn't do it

Totally your fault for not playing around it.

>when you GRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIIIIIIIIIIR someone three times in a row
is there a more conflicting feel?

>>180439374
The poll for forest was arbitrary, no AE no May

>>180439203
Does Aria belong to Haven?
I fucked up the Siren's Tear translation. Have to read Roach's effect in Japanese to translate again.

>>180438445
WHATS THE LAST SWORD BRONZE
WHEN DID THEY RELEASE IT

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>tfw you just happen to draw and play only your animated cards so your opponent might actually think your whole deck is animated

>>180439420
>no roach option
Those fuckers knew it'd win too

>no grimnir leader
why even live?
>tfw special emotes when you drop 10pp grimnir

>>180439380
I dunno, Demon Eater drawing into Demon Eaters seems horrible. Maybe I'll try 2 of him at most.

>>180439420
No Liza either, it was rigged. May would have definitely won it. Same thing for Blood, Medusa would have obliterated the competition, but the poll was rigged to give Azazel fujos a chance of securing a faggot other than Albert.

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Don't worry forestbros. People's predictions about the meta will be wrong just like every expansion before this and that means we will be tier 1!

>>180439417
Just so he can play the Baha instead of Grimnir?
your board is dead on 10 no matter what

And yes he did have the baha since he used it the turn after

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>3/2 ambush and 2/1 ambush for only 5PP
>Wow! Value!
>5PP
>Oh wait

>>180439469
Master Kunoichi, you idiot.

>>180439539
Neutral forest will save forest

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>>180438741
It's pretty rough pre-totg list for the most part.. Run more pompous princess and vanguard/QBlader and/or gemstaff if you want more reliable board starts to get you boots on the ground over being able to do more with them once you do. Run more Arthurian lights if you have them and want storm spam over def boosts to build a trade board. I've been thinking of trying a walfrid/arriet variant instead some time

>ANOTHER SWORD 5PP CARD
ARE
YOU
FUCKING
KIDDING ME

>>180439484
Every single card in my KYS Blood is animated other than Belph and Dealer, and 2 fucking wolves, because standard packs are the absolute worst when it comes to animated drop rate.

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>>180439374
Neither was best Sword girl.

>>180439413
You know how usually cards are powercreeped and you are forced to play the newer ones instead of the old ones?
Forest is exactly the opposite of it. They want us to be using the same cards until the game shuts down or their new game releases

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>>180439420
Rune's poll was also fucked, we didn't get Magisa.

>>180439502
>demon eater into demon eater into demon eater
>dug 6 cards in
I don't see what the problem here.

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>>180438445
>At the end Forest never got its Zell// Laura
Good Night Sweet prince

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Concede please.
98289

>>180439514
>one(one) anon holds the world of an entire nation
whatever lets you sleep at night homo

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BLOOD MAINS POST YOUR FACE

>>180439627
Daria was going to be the winner for Rune regardless of any other options

>>180439557
Join the club faggot, every class has an overloaded slot. Haven has been getting fucked with everything dumped into the 6PP slot for 3 expansions in a row. Lunapedos have the 7 slot overloaded, Blood has 4 etc...

Only cancer like Dragon get their power plays spread out so they don't have to make compromises.

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>>180439185

>>180439462
Fairy are pretty entwined with the forest so she's good where she is

>>180439374
Then Liza would win but May is top top notch

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>>180438445
>we actually didn't get cheshire cat
>the closest thing we got is the last blood gold but it's not even actually cheshire cat, it's 'phantom cat'
>no queen of hearts
>jabberwocky is shit
>poisoned apple without the witch
>most of the cards in the 'fairly-tale themed neutral support expansion' are neither fairy-tale themed or making neutral viable
This whole thing was such a missed opportunity in so many ways

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>>180439665

>>180439662
word*

>>180439665
I can't wait to be cancer and the new shadownigger ruining the game

>>180439610
Play Neutral Forest :^)

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>>180439631
>no field presence
>in an expansion where everyone gets overstatted shit

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>>180439661
Thanks!

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>>180439665

>>180438931
The whole point is to explain what limiting design space means. If hypothetically there was a top tier deck that hard capped game length to 8 turns, cards that cost 8 or more can no longer be realistically played. As long as that deck exists, you can't print cards that cost 8 or more. That's what limiting design space means, not power creep.

>>180439764
>implying demon eater won't be BFF with attendant of the night
>implying no board when a headless dude can spawm 4 Jenos

>>180439791
fuck off

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>>180439602
Yass Queen! Her time will come

There is no reason to shaft forest like that. It is certainly not because of roach that forest get shit cards like other anons said because if that is the case they will at least give other win con to forest that has nothing to do with roach. What I am seeing now is just:

>understated "if you have X neutral cards" do something other cards can do better
>Good mechanic but overcosted cards like fairy driver
>Somewhat good mechanic but is a 2PP follower
>0/4 FD a.k.a bad spiderweb imp on turn 2
>3 dead cards in hand (TEA) when you are unlucky or a dead top deck, you can't even choose the enemy follower that you want to kill

Generally you will feel bad if you top deck one of these in a top deck war. What were they thinking?

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>>180439665

>>180439602

It's a fucking sin that Monika wasn't nominated even if she was insta-lose to Alberto.

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>>180439665

>Sword legendary
>3pp 4/4 cant play sword folloers

>blood bronze
>3pp 4/3
are we still hyped for cinderella

Concede onegai
22888

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>>180439185
Come on man, he hit 10pp. You knew it was coming.

>>180439557
It's 4/3, 3/2 for only 1 creed.
Tsubaki what the flying fuckhole ever next turn. You also have 2pp, SIX damage, giant slayer, and more to stall.
You now have 5/4, 4/3, 5/4. Evo someone if you aren't expecting a clear
Use some combo of smack the ward in the tiddies and arriet, giant slayer/headpat-gslayer/art of the ninja/momo wards and face, face and shadowed assassin.
At any point you can slow down by locking the combo in with lecia-assassin then you can use lecia-cyclone, shadowed assassin, shield of flame, giant slayer/momo, tsubaki, and art of the ninja to control the board.

They're statted just right for when played with 1 creed, and both get evo'd between t5/6/7, they just reach 20 dmg with arriet when there's no ward in the way.

>>180439602
>>180439871
No one cares about a small kid.
She actually has more personality than Albert. A pity

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>>180439665

>tfw got memed by 3 jo crystals grminir meme
i knew it was coming but i couldnt do nothing against it, fuck

Friendly reminder that the "forest can't have good cards because they'll help roach" argument is fucking bullshit. Roach doesn't want to use 1pp fairies or cards that use them. There is literally 0 reason to not have good generators and "if two or more" cards that aren't understatted bullshit. Also give forest a boarclear and card draw.

>>180439939
I never was

>>180439952
Thank you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TrdzCrJoDI
Is this autism?

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>>180439860
Pssst

>>180440000
>typing this to a general full of blood and shadow mains
Don't bother.

>>180439514

I just don't get why they rigged the poll against May and Liza. Wouldn't it be cheaper to not have to pay Hana Kana twice?

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>>180439665

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>>180439665
I don't want retarded bandwagoners to swarm my favorite class like cockroaches.

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Who else enjoying all the Elfcuck tears? 3 months of this will make any cancerous meta worth it.

>>180439665
I'm only a blood main because I spammed it from beginner to masters as my only deck. Makes me feel uncomfortable because I dislike playing meta decks,.

>>180440000
Forest will be t1 again next expansion, that new bronze 2pp card revealed today is incredibly good. Even just playing it on 4 with a glimmering wings is strong but it gives a lot more leeway for combos and may actually give merit to the "thinking mans deck" memes.

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>>180439665
Vengeance got a great 3 drop but I'm still skeptical about Spawn. All memes aside a turn 8 do nothing that requires sacrificing other plays to tutor doesn't sound like it will cut it in a board flood meta.
I might get proven wrong and some ungodly midrange Blood deck somehow appears and I'll have to just play something else to avoid getting BM'd endlessly.

>>180440000
It would only be an argument if roach decks were even good now, but forest is shit even when playing roach so it makes no sense.

>>180440132
But the turtle is dying too. Hope you like all those 5PPs.

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>>180439665

To the people saying that neutral forest will save forest, I don't think so. Neutral forest can never be a thing because forest has shit draws and the neutral synergy in forest are mostly "if you have X neutral cards in your hand". Forest has pretty shit draws, that is the fact. Normally you see forest having a decent hand size when you face them. Why? It is because half of the cards in their hands are fairies. Fairies are used for combo and if you want to build a combo deck, you won't have enough neutral cards in your deck to activate the synergy effect reliably, so you can't even use altered fate as a strategy (since your deck is not built for that). Also once you exhaust all your resources as a neutral forest all your top decks will be shit top decks because they can never be activated but you have to play them anyway to survive.

That said forest has the worse neutral synergy ever. Other people's synergy are mostly "if you have a neutral follower in play" or "if a neutral follower comes into play".

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>>180440132
I don't enjoy any meta where a craft has a 55% win rate and 30%+ play rate

Genuinely 73% of my opponents this week have been Shadowniggers. Fuck Cygames' idea of "balancing".

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post rowen!

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>>180439984
DELETE

>>180440254
Dont worry, they will all be bloodcucks next week

WINNERS OF THE EXPANSION
>Rune
>Haven
>Blood

NEITHER LOST NOR WON
>Shadow
>Dragon

lmao why do you still play this game
>Forest
>Sword

How can they hate forest and sword so much

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>>180440093

Still no Spinaria or Safira cards...

>>180440068
>5mana 2/2
Even Baphomet is better than him because bapho actually draws a card.

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>>180440230
>>180440000
No, you guys be good and take these good neutral supports.

>>180440176
>Board flood meta
CBlood has so many fucking viable board clears, in fact, it has the earliest true board clear in the game. CBlood never had problems "not playing anything". That's all it did back when it was semi playable. It has a problem when the game reaches turn 7+ with no way to close out the game. Spawn can comfortably be dropped by 7 with Key, Key+tutor or just tutor discount.

>>180440201
>Dying
She's been dead and buried for 2 expansions family.

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>>180440256

>>180440292
He technically can be 1 mana 2/2 because you can make a 4 mana card into 0 mana card.

>>180440275
>haven
>winner
They didn't get shit. Aslan is a meme.

>>180440176
>Summoned t5 on the nut draw for 0pp. But still t6 for a decent draw with little to no tempo loss
>Fetched and reduced to 5pp to be played t6 in combo with removal
>Rush trade's into their turn 6 play for a 0pp spawn on turn 8 to play with whatever else you want
>When they're ready to attack, Esmeralda is ward removal+storm and they have other cheap value plays to supplement him
>Also just kills with Arriet

>>180440230
I'm sure they are just memeing, neutral forest looks terrible even with B&B a win condition that doesn't even win the game it's just annoying to deal with if you don't have a banish or transformation

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>>180440256

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Pretty happy with the cards rune got this expansion. Especially the ER stuff

>>180440068
If it decreases 3 cost from any cards, that homo might see play.
>>180440148
Meh. play 2 Fairies instead. Mess with Roach pull.

>>180440275
Neutral Sword will be tier 1.

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Can someone explain me again why is this shit allowed to exist?

>>180440148
>that new bronze 2pp card revealed today is incredibly good.

Do you realise that any half decent forest card right now are all printed into the 2PP slot? You just can't simply put 12 2PP 2/2 cards and fairy whisperer in a deck and want it to be good.

Can we make an entire sword deck of nothing but 5pp drops now

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>>180440353
>Snow White
>Lion
>Eagle
>Tea time
>Didn't get shit
Storm Haven's turn 5 into 6 will make kys Blood's 4 into 5 look like an absolute joke.

>>180440340
Explain this picture to me.

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>>180440256

>>180440424
Just Master Mage Levi bro

>>180440148
Why wouldn't you just play fairies for glimmering wings? You are still spending 2 extra pp just to draw another card.

>>180440401
Pretty sure Crafty Warlock is a better card to play, but I could be wrong. It's better than Commence Experiment, at least.

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Looking for a concede

81864

>people scared about meme of the abyss when haven can drop 5/5 and 5/6 + demonic strike in turn 5 without playing tempo loss card like baphomet in the previous turn

Not even midshadow can do that shit in T5.
You guys gonna complain about how broken Lion of Goldenia in 1 week.

>>180440424
What deck do you play bro and I'll make it rain Insight's

>>180440459
that fucking card is too perfect curve, low cost and the necromancy cost is a joke too

>>180440435
How are you even planning to use Aslan in storm haven? Tea time and apostle are the only ones that seem interesting.

>>180440424
haha dude 6 shadows are hard to gain, nevermind the fact that the card also generates 4 so it actually only costs 2 haha

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>>180440424
lmaoing @ ur life

>>180440405
>turn 5 wolf
Haha, let's not.

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>>180440256

>>180440352
Not really. It is at most a 2/2 for an entire turn 5 because you actually want to save the 0 cost card like fairy driver for next turn because your enemy will kill it instantly if you play it together with the prince.

>>180440486
It's a 1pp sigil+draw my dude. That also feeds your abomination plays which you're trying to activate with Ancient Alchemist

>>180440512
>6 shadow is easy to come by turn 6
Your opponent will need to play at least 5 cards to pull that out, and one of them needs to be a Skull Beast.

>>180440487
thank you potemkin

>>180438727
>5% playrate and terrible winrate
>i-it's fine you forestcuck
lamo

>>180440562
I meant 6

>>180440424
>>180440512
Just eggplosion bro
Literally no eggcuse not to run it

So are both sword and forest confirmed to be sub 5% now

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>>180440276
We will never cook with Safira. Cygaem fucked up

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>>180440645
Forest is getting a head start

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>>180440615
>it is hard to generate muh six million shadows on turn 6
>In ToG

>>180440651
I want to dress up like that.

>>180440645
pls save lesbocraft

>>180440638
at this point im seriously considering getting that fucking card cause Forest has nothing to clear board other than 8PP mahanes

>>180439723
cowshire cat not getting in is a good thing tho

>>180440701
>catacomb is still good!
Swordfags and Treefuckers going all out.

>>180440636
>it's ok if Blood can do it in turn 7 with no setup requirement.

>turn 1 ninja trainee
>turn 2 kunoichi trainee
>turn 3 pepe
>turn 4 rogues creed
>turn 5 kunoichi master
Y/N

>>180440428
Have you noticed that Haven has their good cards at 6 and Blood has theirs at 4? This happens to a lot of classes and that doesn't stop those new cards from being good.

>>180440770
Catacomb isn't bad, they were still playing it in the tournament yesterday. Why do you think it's a bad card?

Which 3 drops to use in Neutral Sword? There seem to be a lot that fit in the deck.
>Cinderella
>Rabbit Ear Attendant
>Rapunzel
>Goblin Leader
>Angelic Knight
>Grimnir

Kiss of the Princess is also 3PP.

>>180440798
>turn 6 Bahamut

>>180440798
>>turn 3 pepe
>>turn 4 rogues creed
RC wont affect Pepe

>>180440798
>turn 6 themis

>>180440770
>60% winrate is not good enough! I want 70%!

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>>180440706

>mfw no dark summoner leader where she gets all red and hot when you evolve a follower
>mfw nf

>>180440836
Rabbit ear and cinderella arent neutral
Use Rapunzel, added bonus that she doesnt ruin your maid -> albert pulls

>>180440836
I have this
3 x Goblin [N]
2 x Mentor Teaching

3 x Well of Destiny
3 x Unica [N]
3 x Shield of Flame
2 x Whole-souled Swing
3 x Veteran Lancer[S]

3 x Pepe [S]
2 x Grimmir [N]
2 x Kiss of the Princess
3 x Angelic Knight [N]
2 x Weapon Forgery
2 x Cinderella [S]

2 x Ephemera, Angelic Slacker [N]

3 x Cyclone
2 x Albert

>>180440770
>skull beast
>bone chimera
>2 2 drops on turn 4 or
>a 2 drop and a 3 drop on turn 5
Have you actually played shadow? Midrange runs only 5 4 drops and 3 5 drops. You are getting 6 shadow on turn 6 with an average curve.

>>180440885
Yeah it does, you dip. You just have to play RC -AFTER- pepe, not before.

>>180440902
when can we be friends anon

>>180440770
>muh catacombs
>what is bone chimera
Kys shadownigger

>>180440836
You're trying to combo with carrot/Felia/Spear

Can someone post the good night bloodkins image, I want to make an edit with fairies and arisa instead.

>>180440921
D rank?

>>180440965
do it better please

>>180439860
Bro, you just got a 6 cost (slightly conditional) aegis. Stop complaining.

>>180440932
Pepe loses ambush during your turn
RC triggers before pepe regains ambush

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>>180440960

>>180440953
>>180440926
>>180440901
>>180440813
>topic is about gaining shadow
>all pigeon-holed into a fucking chimera
Gee, you guys lost to a dude playing an understatted followers on fucking turn 3. Nice.

>>180440804
>Haven
>Good cards
>Ever
What are those? Also 4PP is a pretty good spot because if it is a fanfare effect (BKB) it would be good when starting first and second, while evo effect is good when starting second obviously. Additionally you won't feel bad when you topdeck them in a top deck war.

>>180440885
It's the other order that doesn't affect him.

>>180439723
Part 2 comming in January, Christmas, new years and Fairy Tail theme. Not fedoraing btw

>>180440794
Don't be retarded, I didn't say anything of the sort. You're basically saying it's ok for this to be broken because Spawn is even more broken.

>>180441009
The one without angelic barrage fucking them up would be appreciated.

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>>180440960

>>180438750
That's because rampkeks limit and invalidate every other late game deck because you simply can't compete in Sunday punches when these apex cunts have 10pp turn 5 and 10+ 7+pp haymakers, then exacerbated by shit like Ouroboros which is infinite value and grind until it eats a banish.
The game is inherently fucked by the design of dragon. You go aggro, hard control or abuse arms race cancer designed to compete with the garbage class that can leverage neutral bombs better than all the others.
Timmy shit should never be as good as dragon is.

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>>180438591
it would be just short haired vampy

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>>180440921
is that your plan for a take2 deck

Why is Shadow allowed to have such a massive amount of control and Board spawn at the same time??

>>180440984
>6 cost (slightly conditional) aegis
I wish. Try playing the game and see if you still have 5 neutral cards in your hand by turn 6. Also it can be destroyed unlike Aegis.

>>18044097

3x unica
3x lyrial
3x shield of flame
3x maid
3x Actress Feria

3x goblin leader
3x grimnir
3x kiss of the princess
2x Rapunzel

3x Alice
3x Teena


3x Albert
3x CoCK

2x Alwidas

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>>180440256
>>180440572

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>>180440694
H-hayai!

>>180441113
>>180440975

>>180440984
I know you are memeing but there are retards here who think it's a turn 6 aegis

>>180440990
If you play pepe first and then RC, at the end of the turn:
1)pepe gains ambush
2)RC triggers for all followers with ambush, so pepe gets +1/+1


If you play RC first and then pepe, at the end of the turn:
1)RC triggers, but pepe is still visible, so he gets dick
2)pepe gains ambush

Effects trigger in order of first to last played

Also Pepe doesn't lose ambush during your turn, what the fuck?

>>180441158
>Oglaf
top kek

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Hello, I'm here to save rune

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>finally get one win to remove the 5 gold taint
>1 pack and +20 gold

>>180440990
Order goes left to right.

Vagabond frog -> Rogue's creed means he re-enters ambush before creed procs and therefore he gets the buff
Rogue's creed -> Vagabond frog means creed procs before vagabond frog re-enters ambush

>>180441298
This card is shit.

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Why is everyone calling her "Vampy"? Her name is Vania

>>180441298
that's not levi

>>180441156
>that trash deck
Why are swordfags so bad at making decks

>>180441345
>her
anon...

>>180440176
Spawn sucks dick, but Carabosse and Emeralda are just unbelievable.

>>180441345
Actually vania is just the localized name and she is actually called Vampy in japanase

>>180441434
vampy is not a real name
the japanese are retarded

>>180441374
because their cards are bad

>>180441434
>he doesnt know

>>180441431
carabosse is 'kay but emeralda is abhorrent

>>180441345
I like Vania so much more. Sure it's a lazy reference, but at least it's not a name that sounds like a retarded three-year-old came up with.

>all this broken shit blood's getting
>have a week to go from AA2 to masters before I get accused of easy mode

>>180441550
whats the reference

>>180441536
I fully expect Emeralda to get nerfed.
Just like Grimnir.

>>180441374
>>180441514
why are the Master Ranked then not showing how to properly make a deck then??

try not to copy Meta decks tho. be creative anon

>>180441575
Not him but Castlevania I think.

>>180441575
CastleVANIA

>everyone shitting on forest and sword
>just like back at pre-tog with everyone shitting on shadow
Does that mean both of them will be t0?
Oh, who am I kidding

>>180441575
jojo

>>180441558
Blood is easy mode right now

>>180441575
vampire caste
Vania's castle
Castlevania

>>180441558
just play with what you want, man. if it works, it works, and you shouldn't have to get all defensive when people get tribalist about their crafts.
>>180441575
akumajo dorakura

Must craft
Alice
Lion
Snow White
Cinderella
Beauty and the Beast

Maybe
Spawn
Queen of Dread Sea
Fairy Dragon
Abomination

Memes
Jabber
Carabosse
Dark Alice
Oz

Instant Vial
Hero of Antiquity
Corpse Lord
Wrym Goddess

I think this is pretty accurate.

>>180441691
>I think this is pretty accurate.
is not

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>>180440754
>not liking cow
Where did your life go so horribly wrong?

>>180441046
>christmas themed cards
I'd really like to believe this, maybe we could get some of the nice seasonal art in after all this time

>>180441668
How dare you reply to me, Rowen.

>>180441691
>making a lit before the meta is settled
lole

>>180441691
Nah

>>180441691
>Wrym Goddess
>Officer Timmy
A rank shitter?

>>180441691
>Not using emissary on wyrm and cavalier on urd to play and urd wyrm

>>180441754
How dare you call me Rowen.
I'm Forte

Post-WLD Tier Lists

Tier 1
Saha Ramp Dragon
Storm Ramp Dragon
Ursula Combo Ramp Dragon
Spawn-of-Abyss Midrange Blood
Mid Shadow

Tier 2
Storm Haven
Neutral Lion Haven
Aegis Haven
Aggro Bat Blood
KYS Blood
Combo Bloods (Azazel, Mary, Snek etc)
Neutral Alice Shadow
Nep Ledger Shadow
Neutral Mid Sword
Daria Tempo Rune
Burn Rune

Tier 3
Aggro Dragon
Discard Dragon
Seraph Haven
Control Haven
Control Blood
Aggro Shadow
Meme Shadow (Atomeme, Tyrant etc)
Every single sword deck that isn't the neutral midrange variant
Every single rune deck that doesn't go face
Tier 999
Every single forest deck

>>180441738
oh yeha you're that melfag

>>180441805
Rowen > Forte

>>180441774
>he still believes Wrym will be playable in constructed

Look at this literal C3.

>>180441815
>>180441691
could you faggots stop.

>>180441691
I would say Fairy Dragon would be higher than Beauty and the Beast, mostly because I don't see B&B being played after this expansion and I don't think neutral forest will even be that strong. Fairy Dragon will probably see play after WD

>>180441834
Wrong, fag.

>>180441835
yeah polyphonic is shit too right

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>>180440651

CYGAAAAAAAMMMMEEESSSSS!

>>180440836

Rapunzel is going to be sick in neutral sword.

>>180441815
tier0
blood

tier1
shadow
dragon

tier2
rune
haven

tieralbert
sword

lmao
forest

>>180441691
>not keeping officer timmy
Spike detected

>>180441917
>infinite value that always work next turn and the turn after
>last word, need other cards to work, only last 1 turn

C3...........................

>>180442028
can't wait for you to cry about 16/18 damage genesis dragons

>>180441815
>KYS blood
>just got a crazy 3pp
>still tier 2
Beginner rank?

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>>180441996
>blood is t0
>haven murders it by turn 6

>>180441824

oh you're that chronic Mel hater

>>180442065
>tin soldier into birdman
Who thought this was a good idea?

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Why do Japanese players always play card-draw last during their turn?

>eidolon with ward
w h y

>>180441856
Shadowverse is a game where each player has 20 HP. 20. And B&B, a (generally) indestructible follower, has 5 ATK.

Pepe is a semi-indestructible follower that is a 1/2, and it was so strong it pretty much generated a new archetype purely for supporting it. That's the power of a genuinely sticky follower in SV.

Believe me, people will bend over backwards to play this card, no matter what janky deck they have to play to make it work. And by god they will try.

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>>180442118
KRM was persuaded

>t1 plea
>t2 unica
>t3 grimnir
>t4 tribunal/alice/double aria/whatever
>t5 lion popping hare to summon tinman

What deck can deal with this going 2nd?

>>180442204
What?

>>180442219
>popping teatime instead of aria
Stop.

>>180442205
Because Mordecai was a real humdinger.

>>180442205
I can see neutral forest being tried of course, I don't see it as a good card at all though. It's also not generally indestructible, dies to follower damage, banish or transformation if you get the effect on it.

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>Collecting monthly sleeves is painful

Anyone else feel this way? I'm glad I got my rahab sleeves and can take time off the game.

>>180442219
Popping tinman with lion is only 1 tinman. It's a fanfare and last words. You'll be aiming for dual flames/destroyer/featherwing or a frozen mammoth

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Who here ready to laugh at all the retards currently claiming forest and sword are going to be dead when they get btfo once neutral forest and sword start shrecking ladder?

>>180442303
>popping aria instead of dual flames/mammoth/devourer
stop

>>180442219
cblood with moon

>>180442350
>Popping tinman with lion is only 1 tinman.

So what? It's 5/5 and 4/5 on turn 5.
>dual flames

Glad I know you're C rank shitter.

>>180442389
I have huge hopes for neutral sword due to Cinderella and shite.

>>180442389
I am confident neutral sword is going to be high tier 2 at least

Any deck that can play a 3 PP 4/4 with no drawback (most of the time) CANNOT be weak.

>>180442389
I expect neutral sword to put in work but forest? Nah that's pure trash.

>>180442407
>playing cards that are normally unplayable
Stop

>Drop rahab
Wooooooooooooooow so skilled

>>180442389
I can see neutral sword being good or at least okay. What is so good about neutral forest?

>>180440939
maybe someday soon

>>180442530
i hope

>>180441815
>missing the tier 1 haven deck
lol

Jesus fuck why am I suddenly playing nothing but haven.

>>180442329
Sitting here at 11k, I'm just burned out of ranked.
I just become a shadownigger and collect monthly reward and move on.

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>there are nips complaining that Demon Eater should be a 2/2 or a 1PP 1/2
Ask a shadow player, this sickens even me.

>>180442407
>let's play trash cards so i can do my meme combo instead of cards that are good on their own

Mammoth is fucking trash dude. Didn't you learn from Atomy and Daria? Fucking idiot.

>>180442329
>it's hard collecting score rewards as a shadownigger

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Onegai
80600

>>180442669
Thank you, Mom!

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>>180442443
>Talking shit about 5pp, t6 4/4, 4/4
Only low rankers are still so retarded they fling C rank around as an insult. Just wait until you find out how sad masters is.

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If alice makes sword tier 1, can we claim her as our own like dragon did with saha, baha, luci, zeus, and israfil?

>>180442207
I think KMR wasn't paying attention when haven and rune were getting cards. Those 2 craft would most likely fuck slow ass cblood.

>>180442805
She has a sword so she's an honorary sword legendary

>>180442471
Just like devil of vengeance

>>180442805
Lucy is co owned by Eris!

>>180442805
She might as well be
She's tailor-made for sword, who else can make most use out of the +1+1 buffs everywhere?
Also perfect curve into Cinderella
Alice was designed to be Swordcraft's 3rd lego

>>180442861
That card will be replaced though.