/domg/ - Dominions General

>>180305063
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>>180305174
>not doing 4 embeds
>Not making it false flag edition

Weak.

Wow 2 posts in and nearly dead already.

>>180307983
it's because of the shit OP

Genuine question, why do people losing call out for help? It always draws me in like a shark to bloody water as I can sweep up their shattered domains and hold off the weakened enemy armies.

It's like asking to be gangraped.

>>180309079
Because they're scared

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Probably because they hope you'll attack their opponent, who is also weakened, first. Thus giving them a chance to recover. Also, the losing player might be willing to pay for help, while the winner isn't going to reward a vulture scavenging his spoils. They could be telling you that whoever is eating them will take too much of a lead to be stopped if successful.

I dunno, I never ask for help because I'd rather turn every province they own or will own to shit with raiding pillagers and Bane Venom Charms while setting up Hell Power bombs or battlefield clears.

>>180309079
Because some people will choose to jump on the currently winning army so they can wipe it out and then clean up the player screaming for help later. Also losers you help then and there will be more likely to help you later if not militarily then through favorable trade deals a small investment then protects your flank later. Really though it just depends on the situation who is getting wrecked and how badly.

Noob here, the way I understand bats are OP because;

* Great blood magic with great blood summons early on and amazing blood hunters

* Stealthy fliers means easy raids

* Forestrec troops with low res cost makes expansion a breeze

* Decent mage versatility and strong crosspaths

* Freespawn sacreds with high HP

did I miss anything major?

>>180311454
That's about the gist of it. Their basic troops are 7g too, and while their stats are unimpressive, they're basically getting flying & stealth for free

>>180311454
Mage mobility, great synergy between troops and mages' paths, good access to battlefield clears and easily available flying demon commanders are important as well, but you got the basics right.

Nobidexx/Indract has a 1h+ long Xibalba review on YouTube btw, check it out if you want some details.

>>180311454
flying also is better at sieges and siege defense and the main thing that early game bats are amazing at is taking forests into taking caps into blood for lategame

>>180311454
Pankoman tier heroes as well

>>180311454
UNLIMITED
SCORPION
WORKS

>>180311454
Bloodsac is helpful, too.

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Rate my pretender

>>180313753
It's not bad. I'd take an E5 snek instead, is a bit safer (doesn't fly, though). And drop some prod for magic if you have an awake already.

>>180314179
but prod 3 lets me go big with warbreeders and indy crossbros

>>180314179
Maneater's actually more reliable at fighting crossbow heavy provinces. holdfirex3, attack archers means he jumps onto the crossbowmen and will often rout the indies by his fear aura scaring off the commanders

>>180314597
Warbreds are good at expanding, but they're not really the best kind of troops vs actual players. Use flails instead.
I found LA Aby's expansion with an awake + prod 0-1 pretty good and magic scales really help your sanguine acolytes. Also, you want to get firestorm + blood stuff ASAP, since your non-blood mages are meh at best. But max prod for more land and more gold for more mages may work for you, dunno.

>>180315124
>but they're not really the best kind of troops vs actual players. Use flails instead.
They've got like 20 prot when berserk. They can tank crossbows to the face. Flail infantry has high attack density, but way lower damage. Against armored units (which players use to frontline with), Warbreds high damage attacks will smash units regardless while Flails will struggle to deal damage until they get buffs. If you mean morningstars, then sure the tower shields are good if you have a huge crossbow blob behind them, but warbreds actually do killing themselves once the melee masses hit in a way that other troops just can't

>>180315421
>They've got like 20 prot when berserk.
Exactly 2 more than flails.

>They can tank crossbows to the face.
You have tower shields. Why would you tank xbows with warbreds?

>warbreds actually do killing themselves
Very slowly. Two attacks per square don't allow them to kill things fast when limb hits exist. And encumbrance + berserk lowers their stats super fast.

You didn't mention two important things about warbreds:
1) they have excellent morale compared to regular infantry;
2) their MR is Ulm-tier and they will get absolutely slaughtered by shadow blasts or militias with sleep cloud support.

when's ma ur?

>>180317014
Next nation is Mari/Machaka/Mictlan, inspired by Caribbean/South American spanish colonies. Units will be a mix of Conquistador inspired units and units inspired by a synthesis of oppresed central americans and african slaves, voodoo blood magic basically.

>>180319145
Sauce?

>>180321649
>asking for sauce
>for nation speculation
>unironically asking people to prove contact with devs and betray trust

When's Uruk and Babylon

Any normal non meme games recruiting?
Early or middle perhaps?

>>180324379
Depends, is summod a meme?

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Caelum, our first contact may have had drastically different tones, but it actually doesn't conflict, and indeed your message works alongside mine, and gives character to the mercenary captain.

I'll be taking a more serious tone in my response this turn.

Also, fuck indie wizards.

>>180324921
You might want to check arm lengths, and the angle of her left hand while it's holding the axe. Otherwise - cute! Do Abysia next!

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>>180324921
Is that Roman Youmu?

>>180324668
>(target was killed)

>>180324506
I guess it isn't? I think they went a little far with the indie priest changes (3x the upkeep for reanimation sceleria and lanka) and fully undead nation changes forts and not having enough death gem income in cap to match asphodel/get a spectator a turn but the rest of the stuff is solid as far as I can tell.

what are your favorite maps?

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New mod! Like neogis? They you probably will be happy. Or unhappy, because this is probably an imbalanced mess.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3399

>>180325636
I was thinking of hosting an EA on new peliwyr to try out EA R'lyenh with summod, where they're not utter garbage, only mostly. Because Aboleths are the shit.

>>180326763
Go for it I'll probably join up as one of the earth or death nations.
>>180326702
Realm of Rampaging Roaches/ Realm of Rampaging Rhinos. I like the balance between water and land that those two have going on.

What the fuck is this game? I was perusing the catalog and found this general.

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>>180327663
A fantasy game about gods wanting to become the supreme lord of creation using real life mythology as the basis for the various civilizations of which there are something like 72 different unique nations split over 3 different ages.

>>180324921
totes adorbs

>>180328118
oh fuck this looks cool

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>>180328772
no anon noooo run run before it lures you innnnnnnnnn.....

wait brb telling my ice giants to hunt my lands for hundreds of virgin sacrifices for demon summoning purposes

>>180328118
Wait, is that actually what happens if you wish for blood slaves? That's incredible

>>180329310
If you think that's good, wait til you see what happens when you wish for 'friends'

>>180328772
It's a terrible game that I'm addicted to. Plz help

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>>180328772
It is pretty neat we used to have a pirated version in the OP but since that isn't the case anymore here are two possibly overwhelming links.
>http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Nations_Overview
the wiki which has nation descriptions
>http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
The mod inspector (overwhelming) which has a complete list of all Units, Pretenders (your customizeable god), spells, magical items you can equip to various heroes/mages, magical sites you can find, random events, and mercenary companies you can hire.

I got into it for the necromancy I stayed for the diplomacy. Pic was between C'tis basically ancient egypt with necromancy and Caeulm basically Zoroastrian mythology.

>>180329793
I have a much, much longer exchange of insults in one of my games.

I'll share it when the game's over.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ElvesAreFor

New nonmeme* EA. Might wait for sum1 to put out some bugfixes before starting, since he mentioned doing some last thread.

ded

How likely is it to get a hero if you have T3L3? I wanted to go T3L3 Abysia and rely on getting the hero for my access to S2. All I can find online is speculation.

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Hey! Covardly old ruler of Ulm! You took coffers and gone off! But now you can not hide from me!

>>180334128
6% chance every turn.

>>180334205
what game is?

>>180334205
post graphs

>>180334667
Thanks. So you've got a 60% chance of getting the hero after 15 turns. Good enough to rely on I guess.

>>180335568
It's really not.

>>180330145
>game is named "ElvesAreFor*"
>Picks r'lyeh first

This man knows EXACTLY what elves are for.

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>>180335247

Ded

>>180335238
The game which you abandoned.

>>180335820
I'm sorry but the guy is right.
Basic probability knowledge:

6% -> 0.06

You calculate the probability of not getting a hero: 0.94

Then you calculate the probability of not getting a hero in 15 turns in a row: 0.94^15

Now if you think of it, the contrary of "not getting any hero in 15 turns in a row" is exactly "getting at least a hero in those 15 turns".
So if you calculate 1-0.94^15 = 0.6047
You have the probability of getting at least a hero in 15 turns. Of course 0.6047 -> 60.47%, in case you prefer percentages.
t. me

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Any particular strats for hinnon?
Grigori are good but you have to survive for the first 20 turns

>>180344026
>20
More like for the first 70 turns, desu.

>>180344004
It's not guaranteed to be that hero if the game uses WH and I'm also not convinced that that number is accurate.

>>180344004
I'm here just to play the game and have fun. Take your math elsewhere, please, this is not a math class.

>>180344979
>autism tier game
>complains about some basic statistics
Different guy but are you acting retarded here?

>>180344789
Of course not, this is the calculation of a nation getting a hero before turn 15 with luck 3.

Only that, no specific heros or nations (however the numbers are the same for all nations).

Also, did you study any basic probability? Tell me what you don't understand and I'll try to make it more clear.

How often should I build fortresses/castles? Should I focus shitloads on magic? What is a good retard guide for recruiting, I think playing N9elhiem ruined some of these basic aspects for me since whenever I play other nations I just stack loads of blessed units and end up getting assraped since they're not as strong as N9elhiem giants.

LAND-DWELLERS TAKE YOUR TURNS

>>180347607
You're not very good at reading comprehension.

>>180349585
Please, can you explain it for me then?

>>180349585
>I'm also not convinced that that number is accurate
It is accurate.

What's there to comprehend?

>>180344026
I love Hinnom thematically but they need too much from their pretender to be decent, they need a hard out bless, scales and an expander

>>180349670
>>>Good enough to rely on I guess.
>>It's really not.
>I'm sorry but the guy is right.
>Basic probability knowledge:...
I know that you're just trying to sound smart on an internet board for autists, but still. No one ever questioned the math.

>>180349729
Have you tried using EA Abysia, starting 10-20 games and seeing what chance you have to get the hero by turn 15 with T3L3?

>>180349776
If it's 6% chance to get a hero per turn, my numbers are accurate.


I don't get what's here to believe, anon.
If you want to test it, do it. But you are going to need more than one game to prove anything.

>>180349776
You were talking about making a strategy about getting a S2 guy in abysia being a bad choice, isn't it?

God, anon, you should make your statements more clear, you would have saved me lots of time.

>>180349853
>If it's 6% chance to get a hero per turn, my numbers are accurate.
Cool. No one ever questioned that.

>I don't get what's here to believe, anon.
Do you have a source on the 6% per turn? Games here almost always use WH, so there's 3 heroes to draw on, one of which is a multihero. So, again, running T3L3 and getting the Corruptor is just not a reliable way of getting S2. That's literally the only point. Mathematically walking through the steps to get 60% based on an assumption that you don't know is true with game settings that are almost never used in MP doesn't help you. It just shows that you fail at basic reading comprehension.

>>180349976
Cool, you learned to read. Real proud of you champ.

>>180349984
You sound like if you spent days testing how damage rolls work because you don't believe them.

Play a 30 nations game all with luck 3 and note when did the heros show up until turn 15.

One more with luck 0.

One more with mf 3

With all that data, checking if it's 6% per turn would be super easy, but I don't really want to test that.

>>180350193
The hero% thing isn't sourced any time I've seen it posted, and you CAN get a hero with Misf 3

>>180350063
>being a faggot in the internet

haha mom i'm so funny xd
Yeah anon, your mom is probably proud of you.

>>180350258
If it gets faggots to read gooder and be pretentious less, I'm real happy with myself

>>180350248
Not that guy, but I have never got a hero with mf3.
Do you have proofs for that?

>>180350305
It doesn't.

>>180348873
Of course its fucking Ulm too.

>>180324668
Sounds like William conveniently omitted the wild goose chase in his report to Caelum, though

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>Dragon girl is no longer cold blooded

What did they mean by this?

>>180351830
Sorry to be 9 hours away from staling, nerds. I've been one of the first to take my turn the rest of the time.

>>180344026
Just get a N9W9 bless and order scales. Don't need a good awake pretender since your giants will dominate everything with that.

Yes, get Rephaim Warriors. Just make sure you never leave them in fertile land and sacrifice some turns of mage recruiting so you can recruit their priests to lead and bless the Rephaim. One of the things that is actually quite terrifying is when you're raiding by some flying Melqarts and an army of Rephaim Warriors devouring all your people while scaring the shit out of the rest.

Use Enkidu warriors for patrolling and blood hunting. Because they're slaves they cost half as much in upkeep.

>>180353249
If you're not first your last.

>>180353150
Event hero if you keep the bodhisvata near a coast. He saves a dragon king in the form of a fish and tosses him back into the sea, and then the king's beautiful daughter comes with a pearl and to deliver it to the bodhisvata as a gift. Then the bodhisvata says he'll take the pearl only if the daughter keeps it, so the daughter's like 'okay' and then becomes a buddhist. If you drop the buddhism elements, it kinda sounds like one of those dumb anime plots where the cute magical girl is like "I live with you now" to the MC.

>>180353384
>N9W9
but hwhy.

>>180353413
I think she might also be a jomon hero.

>>180353539
No, that's the son of the dragon king

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>>180353539
No, it's definitely tied to the Bodhisattva pretender like >>180353413 said, you can look it up in the inspector

>>180353413
>Then the bodhisvata says he'll take the pearl only if the daughter keeps it.

That's a pretty good pickup line. I'll keep it in mind in case I ever end up saving monster royalty.

>>180353780
Except in the original myth she just becomes his disciple and a top tier buddhist figure in her own right and they don't actually have a sexual relationship

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>>180353850
Good thing I'm not a buddhist then.

>>180353780
I think you're misinterpreting it. He accepts the pearl as a gift from the grandfather dragon, then gives it to the granddaughter dragon. He wasn't saying that he wanted to keep the girl. She's just so impressed with how buddhist he is that she learns his buddhist ways.

>>180353484
You're right.

E5N9W9, gotta have invigoration to stop getting exhausted in long fights.

>>180354514
I sure hope you're taking that awake boi

>>180344026
Rephaite chariots are amazing and you should have little trouble for the first 20 turns if you took production scales.

Grigori and to a lesser degree bloodhunting are a trap. Hinnom is really bad at bloodhunting, and you should focus on other options until at least midgame.

>>180348745
>How often should I build fortresses/castles?
Depending on how rushable your nation is, you may want to get a cheap fort up ASAP (in multiplayer, against AI is more forgiving).

After that, judge based on how fast you're using up money. If you're gaining money, you should probably have more forts. If you're having to shut down mage production in forts because of a lack of gold, more forts is probably not a good investment.

>Should I focus shitloads on magic?
Yes, magic is the tech tree of this game. Against players, you should generally be ready to start using magic by turn 15.

>What is a good retard guide for recruiting
You'd probably be best off asking for a specific nation. It's a much simpler question for people to answer and you're likely to get more applicable information.

>>180309079
>Why would other players care someone getting bigger from eating another nation?

I'm the worst. Can we get a 6h extension for New Game Plus? I had to leave the house early today.

>>180358889
"no"

>>180358889
>>180359030
"Yes", actually. Take care.

>>180359102
Worst admin. Badmin.

>>180359147
I love this meme.

Asphodel, are you here?

>>180358889
plz be tienchi

t. ng+ concerned citizen

>>180359423
How are they doing, by the way? Is someone killing them?

>>180359498
not sure, just noticed a stale and hope they aren't done playing

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ElvesAreFor

Join up gayboys

>>180359785
But I'm not gay

>>180359202
New phone, who dis?

>>180359202
Yes, Malakal, I'm here.

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So, that little shit has a zotz province. Well, that would've worked against someone without skeleton scouting parties.

Oceania, he basically has only 20 sacreds in my territory. They're E9N9, but nothing I can't handle. If you join you'll still have time to eat his northern border and maybe even his cap while I'm dealing with his main army.

>>180359850
>>180360070
This is your uw neighbour. The amber triton province happens to be in my capring, could you stay way please?

>>180359785
>Score graphs on
>Story events on
>Ascension points required for victory: 9/13
>Game will start as soon as all pretenders are in.
wew

Also, with all that talk about Ys removing me, he has enough things to do right now with all the free indie territory near Ulm. Basically, whoever caps more of those indie provinces will win the landbowl. Looking at you, Ulm. You're a little slow, buddy.

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Look at that stupid nigga. """Removing""" Ermor before taking his fucking cap circle. What an idiot.

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>>180360794
>nothing I cant handle
Kek, you have 6 provinces total and 4 of them have about 13 chaff undead between them. I'm so scared of your A4E4D6B9 bless.

CAN'T WAKE UP

>>180361402
I won't evem bother explaining your stupidity to you. I'll wait until you inevitably go AI.

>>180361480
I thought bones were supposed to made out of calcium not sodium?

>>180361402
AED is nothing, but B9 makes Ermor's chaff extremely tricky to deal with with standard stuff like evos. And lictors become really good at killing things. Str20 + 9 damage from battleaxe. Also, banishment backfires as well, which is extremely annoying.

Also, what kind of bless is that?

>>180361743
Good thing he has fuck all of them and my guys have good magic resistance.

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>>180361743
Maybe a lich queen or something?

>>180362006
Is this using summod?

>>180362278
Yes actually.

>>180362204
Morale+1 Ermor is best Ermor.

You guys aware the pastebin is unusable?

Desura got bought and all links lead to a splash page.

>>180362348
I have no idea what he's planning, then.

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>>180361080
>>180361402
Thanks for the scouting reports, dweebs.

>>180361080
>Oceania already on land
wut

are landfags that retarded? you can't let uw shitters take any land provinces. Oceania is not that great with their sacreds, but Ys is a big nono. And from what I heard it's already on lan as well.

>>180361402
>not showing troops
What are you afraid of, dear neighbor?

I'll call it right now because I saw it happened a thousand times before:

Agartha is gonna be stuck in the eternal war with skellies. His neighbours will backstab and eat him and contain Ermor to his cap. Ermor will cast some cancerous global. Half of the players will go AI. Malakal will win and brag about it.

>>180362923
I saw ermor first. Also he fucks with my gold and I'd rather kill him now before he starts shitting out forts.

>>180363106
We are on turn 10 dude.

>>180363323
>thinking it will stop Malakal from going to Steam chat on your ass

>>180363382
What I mean is Ermor hasn't shit to keep me in an eternal war. He basically has one army with 11 sacreds in it. He also only has about 30 dudes in his cap so no endless sieges.

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I hate it

>>180364060
What were you thinking about when you joined a noob game? You were in a game with Malakal, for fuck's sake.

>>180363540
So, Ermor is no match for you, but other people better not attack you and prevent you from getting all the free death gems because you're strong, but not threateningly so, is that what you're saying? Nice narrative, Hillary. If you take Ermor's cap you'll be the threat #1 on land. Watch your back, landlubber.

>>180364312
t. Stool Cory

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>>180364312
Hmm, I feel like I have heard something like that before somewhere recently.

>>180364576
Everything in that PM is true though. Do you really expect your 3 land neighbors to ignore your +15 free death gems?

>>180364719
>+15
Try +5 nerd, we are playing summod.

>>180364813
Ugh.

Well, if he has enough deadlands it's close to 15 anyway. And it's easier to raid as well, considering deadlands spawn pretty sporadically.

>>180364942
>deadlands
>on turn 10
yeah ok

>>180365028
Now you're just being retarded. First 10~ deadlands spawn when Ermor has at least dom1 in a province he owns. Look at the .dm file, you mongolian.

>>180364942
He doesnt even have ten provinces, never mind ten deadlands.

Which nation is the most touhou
Why isn't there a touhou nation

>>180367431
Wasn't there a touhou nation mod though? I think there was.

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>>180369275
You think right

>http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3173

>>180361402
Can we talk somewhere?
For example the steamchat

As the BonetoPick admin doesn't seem to be responding I've obtained the password from Llamabeast.

The schedule has been extended to 48hrs for starters, if anyone needs an extension just post in the thread.

>>180370772
Are you in the chat?

>>180371007
Yeah, I'm there.
Are you Agartha or a diplodeceiver?

>>180364576
I'm a neighbour of Agartha and I can confirm that I'll attack any of his other neighbours that I border if they attack him.

>>180371000
Just in time for me to die!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ElvesAreFor

Now with somewhat less meme settings. Not sure about the thronepoint numbers, though.

TheLittleTriton Asphodel, are you there?

>>180375439
t. Ermor.

Regardless of diplomacy and alliances i still need to expand and 40 is the last free province, hope you dont mind

>>180375883

Who?

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>>180375439
I am now. It's 74 you wanted, right?

>>180377986
74 is in my capring so yeah. Just telling you before we clash there.

>>180378496
>implying he doesn't want to clash with you
>implying he doesn't want to move on and take your cap next

>>180364060
so sorry I wasn't looking forward to having my incredibly extensive 6 lifetime turns of mp from one scrapped newbie game organized elsewhere to go up against your literal hundreds . And a good many of us have actual 0.

Not cool of you dude, not cool.

>>180378764
Why would he want to do that? I thought we were Pan-friends.

>>180377986
Actually, could we talk somewhere else?

>>180377986
Can we talk about my dick?

>>180380302
Who are you?

>>180377986
Asphodel please come back from the dead.

>>180371000
Than you!

>>180380912
Thank*

>>180380419
I'm just thirsty like you are.

Can we talk about the fact that out-of-the-game diplo is ruining MP for everyone?

>>180379180
Can't.

>>180381646
>ruining
nigga it's a big part of the game

>>180381646
I just wanted a nice memegame. Now we're all malakals.

>>180381853
t. Actual malakal

>>180381773
In-game PMs are a big part of the game, and they are often screenshoted and reposted here (see also: caelum-ctis diplo, what the fuck did you just say about me versions etc.)

Out of the game messages give an unfair advantage to fags like Malakal who have more incentive to be a tryhard and tell people to go to the Steam chat every 5 minutes.

>>180381853
I'm not malakal, I'm just fucking up ermor and hes butthurt about it.

>>180382007
I posted my last message to you like 5 hours ago, and it was "I'm not gonna explain your stupidity". Stop projecting, please.

>>180381998
Out of game messaging is available to anyone, there is nothing unfair about it. If you choose not to utilize it then that is nobody's fault but your own.
Deception and propaganda in thread and through other channels are just other avenues of attack. Dominions is a war simulator and winning on the PR front is just as important as winning on the battlefield.

>>180381998
I just stopped doing out of game diplo. It made me enjoy games more.

>>180382406
Fuck off, (((Malakal))). You're the reason why we can't have nice things.

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>>180382563
Nice counter argument. You've got nothing kidd.

>>180382718
My counter argument is 15 MP wins ;^)

>>180382778
Then what are you bitching about?

>>180382876
The fact that in 2015 you could have a chill game with 1 in-game PM each 4 turns or so. Now it's all "come to the Steam chat" this and that,

>>180382991
So in other words you don't like the fact that people are utilizing new diplomatic strategies that you aren't any good at?

>>180382991
not him but yeah I don't really like how disadvantaged one is if one plays purely in-game diplo because of the inability to immediately confer about the current turn moves

>>180383216
When you play a lot of games, and win some of them, you realize that you're decent at the game, and don't have to prove anything to anyone, and you learn to appreciate the chance to just move shit around and fight stuff instead of doing diplo one-upmanship for a few hours every day (like Aran does). Let me put it this way: if you like Dom4 late-game, either you're a very boring person (like Nick), or you've never won a MP game before.

>>180384071
You should've joined Rejakor's invite game

>>180384071
Who's proving anything? I've won at least 3 that I can think of but haven't kept count. Malakal and Sy are undoubtedly better players than you mechanically as well. Your assessment is based entirely on salt.

>>180384071
This is unfair. I have won 6 MP games and I enjoy mild out-of-game diplo.

In game messages are awfully slow.

I just use out of game diplo for time critical information, like not bumping other people's expansion parties.

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>>180381646
>>180381773
>>180381853
>>180381998
>>180382007
>>180382406
>>180382436
>>180382563
>>180382718
>>180382778
>>180382876
>>180382991
>>180383216
>>180384071
a new meme is born

>>180387921
Should have swapped out the bottom one for a horror.

>>180388454
this

also I wouldn't put public diplo underneath in-game diplo. If anything, it's the more casual option since everyone can read it and it's usually used more for bants than plotting

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ElvesAreFor

Low-meme EA, 7/10

>>180376771
mosrtly the lizard riders, although it propably can be adressed to nearly everyone bordering me

>>180390169
Yeah, okay. I really shouldn't join this, but I will anyways. Incoming meme build if there's still slots left when I get home

>>180359187
>meme
What did he mean by this?

>>180393010
b a d m i n

no meme only true

>>180390169
So just to be clear, everyone is naming their pretender 'salva,' right?

>>180396201
Yes.

>>180396201
Of course, Salva is the toppest domg meme right now.

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>>180398330
k

>>180390169
Hey admin, would you be okay with changing the map and adding 2-4 more slots?

>>180390169
>>180402020
Seconding this. I play in another game on Peliwyr and I'm retarded enough to mix them up, I'm afraid.

>>180402020
>>180402243
What map, though?

>>180402334
Dunno, how about Cartographic Revision?

>>180402334
Whichever. Riverlands, a new carto revision map, just something to hold more friends

>>180402434
I'd have to wait for all the nations, then.

>>180402434
>>180402480
Anyways, set it to 12 players and a placeholder map.

>>180403308
Thanks, bestmin!

>>180402434
>Cartographic Revision
But the maps it turns out are always overly-wide and ugly to boot.

>>180403832
>overly-wide and ugly to boot
Try flat view. They look p nice, imo.

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Utgard, you're about to stale. Please don't stale. and please double turn

I'll think about a short (~4 hour) extension if he's not here. I don't want any early stales, even if he's not anyone i'm diplo-ing.

>>180403308
Can you reserve Mictlan for me? I'll be home in about 3 hours

So for Cartographic Revision, will the map still work if I scrub out the start data for the downloaded version? I've seen people using CartRev's fixed starts to cheat, but I want to make use of its balance-for-nations features.

>>180404093
Can't promise anything there, I guess I could remove any 12th. It'd let me gen the map early.

>>180404287
Cool, thanks

>>180404287
don't worry about fixed start 'cheating.' Everyone can see the starts when the game is given, but the fixed starts are also helpful in giving everyone roughly even starting positions. You can edit out the fixed start positions, but that kinda nerfs the coolness of cartographic revision, which is that the high income provinces (large provinces / farms / etc) are placed roughly evenly between the players to generate conflict areas and expansion areas are divided into pie slices with rivers/mountains between them so that you have to pick what you expand towards.

>>180404621
I mean, does it work if you scrub the fixed starts out of the version distributed to players. The version on llama would still have them. Would that cause issues?

>>180404287
Sent a Mictlan placeholder for that guy >>180404093
Just remove it when he's home.

>>180405021
Will do, give me a (you) at that time to remind me.

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How's this look for a map? Way too much water, but most of it's out of Riley's reach. Two UW thrones, but one's in a pond- very easily defensible, if you can take it.

>>180405609
reroll plz

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>>180405658
They all end up looking like this. CartRev really likes slapping down random lakes when you add an UW nation.

>>180405609
7.8/10, too much water.

>>180405967
This one looks better.

>>180406126
The rivers in the top middle of the second one would make perfect borders.

>>180405609
>>180405967
>hideous dull colors for water
>all plains look like a wasteland
>all the wastelands and farms look out of place and jar with the rest of the map
>the mountains are barely distinguishable from swamps
2/10 literally uglier than vanilla mapgen.

I have a minor quibble with the amount of W provinces that carto revis adds in general, since IMO water nations should have 10-12 provinces each in their lake/sea when they fight over them or like 7-10 each when it's a 'free' sea so as to not give them big ol blobs of uncontested territory. Most W nations can still use coasts fine, as well as any disparate lakes, but letting them get to the size that land nations need to fight to expand to without any conflict is pretty bad.

>>180406465
(you)

>>180364060
And I hate you

>>180361574
subtle, I like it

>>180406706
Is balance really such an issue that you're willing to comprise on aesthetics?
>>180406691
>most W nations can use coasts fine

>EA Atlantis
zero mages, one priest, one unit
>EA R'lyeh
one 2-path mage-priest, one unit
>EA Oceania
one 2-path mage, one 7-path mage, one commander, two units
>Therodos
one 2-path mage, one 2-path mage-priest, one commander, one scout, four units
>EA Pelagia
one 2-path mage, one priest, two commanders, three units
>MA Atlantis
one 3-path mage, one 1-path mage, one commander, two units
>MA R'lyeh
one 1-path mage-assassin, one commander, two units
>MA Oceania
Same as EA Oceania.
>MA Pelagia
one 2-path mage, one priest, one commander, two units
>LA R'lyeh
one 1-path mage-assassin, one priest, one commander, three units

>>180410254
Aesthetics are good, though. Everything is simple and terrain is recognizable at glance. And 'plains looking like a wasteland' complaint is just nitpicking, they're almost the same as on Pymous' maps and no one has a problem with them.

>>180410254
EA Atlantis and MA Pelagia are the only ones that are UW locked for mage recruitment. Thed, Ys, and to some extent EA Pelagia get better stuff on coasts than they do UW, R'lyeh gets special stuff on coasts incl amphib mindblasters, the Oceanias get the same on coasts taht they get UW, MA/LA R'lyeh get their efficient spammable mages on coasts, and MA Atlantis gets their lab rats on coasts only.

So, yeah, I stand by what I said

>>180410254
If aesthetics were the question, I'd play on Valanis every game.

>>180412225
can we play on Valanis?

Not even a joke, I love that imbalanced piece of shit.

>>180412554
t. a guy who runs luck3 IRL and always spawns in the corner

>>180412554
BreakingTheWheel is on it and started last week.

>>180412630
corner positions a shit

What you do is expand into the corner, find the undersized cornhole, kill him, and take his spot while also being oversized without anyone knowing how big you are

>>180412687
yeah but that was a) an RP game and b) I'm not in it

>>180410670
Your opinion is subjective and your taste is bad.
>Everything is simple and terrain is recognizable at glance
Except for mountains, swamps, and whatever those extra-green mountains are.
>they're almost the same as on Pymous' maps and no one has a problem with them
No one has asked me before.
>>180410690
>Ys
Surprised you didn't talk about LA Atlantis too. Not an UW nation.
>better stuff on coasts than they do UW
Except for mages.
>EA R'lyeh
Aside from the mage-priest the only thing they get are those "amphib mindblasters"; "incl" is technically accurate but misleading.
>Oceania
Incorrect but close enough that it isn't terribly inaccurate. Oceania is an exception.
>MA/LA R'lyeh
>MA Atlantis
But they don't get their powerful mages on the coast.

Some UW nations get good use out of their coasts, but saying that "most" do is wrong.

>>180412908
They get uses out of coasts. They can still make their efficient mages and in most cases their better land-fighting troops on coasts. I never said they get EVERYTHING that they get UW out of coasts, just that they can use coastal provinces (as in, get mages out of them), which is more than most land nations can do with UW provinces.

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>mfw utgard almost staled and didn't doubleturn

>>180413127
Given that perspective, I agree with your statement.

>>180413445
How weasonabwe.

What're your thoughts on how many sea provinces Uw nations should get by the by?

>>180412908
'Extra-green' things are valleys. As in, well, mountains. It makes them easy distinguish them from caves (which look like swiss cheese to make it even more obvious).
If you can't recognize a swamp though... well, I think you might actually be blind. I'm sorry, anon.

>No one has asked me before.
Because no one cares about your opinion. Admin a game yourself and then you'll be able to choose whatever map you like.

>>180390169
Yo admin. I just want to find out what is happening with the game since we got more people and the map has changed. What map are we using and we are just waiting for a Mictlan to get home and make his god right?

>>180413726
People said cartographic revision so I generated one, but I'm open to suggestion on an 11+1 player map.

And yes, we're just waiting for mictlan, should be a couple hours at most.

>>180413914
Hour and a half, yeah. I already made my pretender in the bless calc thing, so I just need to slap it together and I'll be ready to submit when I get home

>>180413914
Realm of Roaring Rhinos or plane of Rusty Nails could work if you just wanted to use the base maps. No caves and may want to grab another water guy for those though.

>>180413536
5-8 provinces close together for a full cap-ring and two forts, with 1-2 province lakes throughout the rest of the map.
>>180413554
The swamps are similar in appearance and color to the river-plains, so my gaze just slides right over them.

>>180414406
there are cave+ versions of both of those too. If I'm thinking of the right map, I also made a modified version of one of them that had reduced water provinces by combining the middle lake together for a 10 player game.

>5 nations with Biblical angels (in fact or spirit)
>0 that have them as massable troops
Weren't angels supposed to come in massive hosts? Their stats aren't even good enough to justify the limitations on summoning them.

>>180416146
>doesn't buy the DLC
>complains he doesn't have content from the DLC
???

>>180416357
I hate the new subscription model

>>180416357
The only nation I know of with massable angel summons is Planescape: Celestials - Archons and they're unbalanced enough that even if they were allowed into a modnation game I don't want to subject anyone to fighting them.

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Just running the generator shows that it's got a water province fetish. Look at that huge sea, that 5-province inland sea, AND those lakes. Plus at least three chokepoint provinces.

Probably not going to run this. That second one I posted might be it.

>>180417076
I think those water provinces might be there because of Agartha.

>>180416146
Kailasa

>>180417759
>Biblical

>>180417840
Ah. Well save up a bunch of pearls then like God did.
Most of the time, angels only appeared alone in the Bible anyways.

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This one's actually pretty decent. 14-province sea with no thrones for Riley. The main thing that worries me is that chokepoint province in the top right. Thoughts on this one, then?

>>180417531
Plus the sailing nations, sure.

If anyone's got a suggestion for 11+1 maps beyond rhinos and rusty caves, still open.

>>180418065
>Thoughts on this one, then?
It's ugly.
>>180418065
>If anyone's got a suggestion for 11+1 maps beyond rhinos and rusty caves, still open.
Shahrivar

Hey dude, I'm ready to submit my pretender for Mictlan

>>180418342
Killing the reservation now. Submit it as soon as llama updates.

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>>180418458
I appreciate you.

Fuck it, just going with >>180418065 .

>>180418528
I'll start when the map's up and I've tweaked the throne settings to fit the 12-player cap. 7-8/12 thrones should do it.

Why do I get shitty fucking game ruining events in every multiplayer LA game? My expansion parties will get ruined by some stupid """random event"""

>>180419221
Because you touch yourself at night

Okay, starting.

WHat's good about EA Agratha? Magama children spam?

>>180420508
Magical friends. Between penumbrals, living mercuries, magma kiddos, scriptable/buffable earth elementals, mindblasters, pale one militia siege chaff / evo bait, general earth utility magic and battlefield clear, they have the tools to handle most anything. Very hard to rush and very strong scaling with gems.

>>180419638
https://mega.nz/#!d2wAgKAZ!rky0WEhUrMKAGp2itC1-TK01spZP0ue0f1zCCff-yyU

Map link, since the goodmin didn't get to it yet

Is there a /domg/ discord? c:

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Pretender names.

>>180421298
>only one salva

>>180421495
I genuinely forgot about it. Sorry.

>>180421495
>El "Salva"dor

>>180421032
There's a general Dominions discord where some domg people are active, and there's the Clockwork Hounds discord which hosts its own games but has a bunch of players from other communities because its hosting thing was used to host the CC

>tfw you are pretending to be tough but actually you know you're going to watch as a blessrush takes all your provinces without competition

>>180423581
lube up qt. My bless is HUGE

>>180422859
do they host blitzes often? Vanheim is dead for some reason these days

>>180424250
It's similar. Fewer 4+ player blitzes, but often a few people that would want to duel.

>>180421298
Hmm...I wonder what kind of god R'lyeh took...

>>180424802
It's a false flag!

>>180425490
Oy vey.

So I've written up a basic script for a rundown on the "It depends" and honestly I'm torn, should I go through the nation tier list or should I do a rundown on magic, what stats matter and all that shit or do the unironically better youtubers already have that down?

>>180428763
I don't know what happened to the text of this post, jesus that's fucked.

Should I do a basic basics podcast or head more towards a general game meta coverage?

>>180430127
Either way, I'd be interested in reading your script and giving feedback before you record it desu

>>180405609
>>180405967
What's this map generator? I need it

Is Dom4 a meme-game?

>>180432497
yes

>>180432497
no

>>180432497
maybe

>>180432497
it depends

>>180431776
cartographic revision, google it

>>180432497
I don't know, maybe test it?

>>180433486
thanks!

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>I play no-diplo games

>>180435263
I like no diplo games

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>grow old and feeble knowing that your kids were cursed into malformed manlets for your sins
Being a Fomorian King must suck.

do you fucking turns

>>180436369

What killed them in the lore, curse?

>>180442197
TNN

>>180442287

Really now, well its more believable than Kailasa killing off Lanka.

>>180443929
Suppose Lanka is Sri Lanka and Kailasa is India.

Besides, it doesn't take place during the non-canonical ascension wars of Early Age games but somewhere in between EA and MA at an unspecified time. Who knows, maybe what used to be Lanka was much weaker before their eventual demise.

Questions that require answers:

What killed Therodos?
What happened to Eriu?
Why did MA Man turn to LA Man exactly?
What killed Ys?
Why is there no LA Machaka?
Why does Arco lore and flavor suck so bad after EA?

>>180444609
>What killed Therodos?
Joke's on you, they're already dead. But the nation withered away and last holdouts were absorbed by Pelagia.
>What happened to Eriu?
Tuatha were already defeated by Man and their descendents, the Sidhe, retreated to Twilight Realms. With the coming of the new god in MA Ascension wars, Sidhe re-emerged to rule some the human and fir bolg populations of Eriu. After MA I'd hazard a guess the Sidhe went back into hiding and human populations of Eriu were absorbed by Man.

So, OOC birds just decided to attack me.

IC I'll write something up.

>>180445281
>But the nation withered away and last holdouts were absorbed by Pelagia.
It's worth noting that Pelagia didn't really conquer Thed so much as explore their ruins after the Therodians gave up the ghost
>Tuatha were already defeated by Man and their descendents, the Sidhe, retreated to Twilight Realms
You're right here too, but just to clarify the Tuathans weren't exterminated, they just dipped out after losing fights to the humans.
>Why did MA Man turn to LA Man exactly?
This is actually in the lore if you make a pretender for LA Man. Basically, a big ol curse ruined all the nature magic, so the men had to make free college to contain it.
>What killed Ys?
Nothing yet, it's still too new to be referenced. You can assume R'lyeh killed everything UW in general, though.
>Why is there no LA Machaka?
It's under production
>Why does Arco lore and flavor suck so bad after EA?
Shillwinter

>>180444609
>Why is there no LA Machaka?
HOL UP

SO YOU BE SAYIN

How do I check if a unit costs upkeep? I remember there being a way.

>>180447243
Click morale in the unit description.

>>180447243
Ingame: right click morale.

Inspector: check if it has a gold cost.

How do i get gud
After 300hrs of playing vs AI i still cant beat hard AI

>>180448251
Play a thug nation with N9E9 or N9W9 bless

Build thugs

Kill infinite AIs

Niefelheim with N9E9 is good for this.

I know this wasn't supposed to be a memegame but I've just yoloed a double blind expansion, wish me L3

>>180448653
I've blind expanded in pretty much all of my recent EA games. It's unironically a good idea for many if not most nations

>>180448909
As long as I don't get an undead province I should be fine tbqh

noob modding question here!

if I put #custommagic on a pretender, will he gain an additional magic path at the start at the game without this path existing during pretender creation?

>>180448653
>>180450419
Two undead provinces coming right up.

>>180450419
I meant more wrt the starting army

If you take an expander, you usually want to blind expand.

>He doesn't do double turns

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Utgard, if birds don't kill me I'm rushing you.

>>180451707
He's next to bats, they'll eat him.

>>180445681
I saw that. Good luck you fucking scumbag undead monstrosity.

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Berytos 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Yomi Waiting for 2h file

What is the best nation to quickly blob out of control in the early game using some cheesy strategy?

>>180456425
e9n9b9 awake great black bull la gath

>>180456425
Almost any nation that has good national troops and takes an awake expander. Some naitons that have insane sacreds. Most maps don't have enough per player provinces to really get fuckhueg though..

>>180456425
w9 Pangea

>>180456425
E9N9 awake ashdod

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How do we fix Dominions lategame?

>>180457198
Enhance your Magic

>>180435263
t. Malakal

>>180457550
t. false flagging Malakal

>>180457794
>>180457550
>>180457272
>>180457198
>>180456574
Sorry, forgot my name.

>>180457874
t. Malakal

>>180457874
t. ___Pan___