/dfg/ Dwarf Fortress General - Ded in 64-bit Edition

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rip dorfposting

Boats when?

>>180212326
When murdered. (funny)

Everytime a zombie walks over one of my serrated blade weapon traps the game crashes.
What do? only using dfhack

>>180211783
Migrants have arrived!

>>180212853
When trap components break, they crash the game, might be that

POTTERY!

>>180213209
So whats the solution besides deleting the traps?

>Cap'nduck trying to channel some lava for a forging area
>spends 40min of a stream making an over-complicated pump system
>it's taking lava out of the side of a volcano, moving it up one z-level then dropping it down again
>he keeps claiming it's to keep magmacrabs n shit out of his forges
>mfw he could've just used a fortification, channeled holes for his forges and placed the solid tiles over the holes to keep everything out
Fuck man I'm so done watching this guy, fuck him. The more popular he's gotten the dumber and more risk-adverse he's gotten.


>>180212853
Known bug with 0.43. Being fixed next version (comes out probably next month) so just don't use weapon traps until then.

>>180213384
Making traps out of materials that don't break as easily obviously

>>180212853
Probably this >>180213209

Similar thing happened to me when my squad ran through and activated some weapon traps trying to get a forgotten beast

Anyone know how to remove fog in stonesense? "Toggle occlusion" doesn't do it, and doesn't appear to do anything at all.

>>180213462
weapon traps jam after a while, so it'll happen regardless. Just have to stop using them until toady releases the update.

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>>180213462
>>180213604
>>180213467
So I guess Im just fucked, right?
I doubt 20 military dwarves can deal with this.

>>180213529
Figured it out. It has it's own init with an option to turn it off.

>>180213772
>close gates
>send marksdwarves to fortifications and pillboxes
>get free marksmanship skillups
Also, a Necro you think?

Also you could release your FBs from the caverns and see how many undead they take out.

Can someone recommend me some fun races mods? I don't want to scroll through thousands of MLP and Fallout mods

>>180213887
lift up that bridge, seal the fort

>>180212853
Use stonefall traps, you elf.

>>180213935
We had a guy in /dfg/ making a Monster Girl mod but haven't seen him post in a while. He was also working on a Dark Souls mod too.

>>180213772
20 can and will kill them, just don't rush everyone.

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>>180213982
>Stonefall traps
>On zombies

>>180213935
ZM5's modpack is good, It has creatures and races from Warcraft and Dragon's dogma.

>>180214089
This. Just let in a couple of zoombies at a time into a kill room, but i'd just use them to get 50 legendary marksdwarves personally.

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>>180214191
>>180213912
I dont have archers or a pillbox yet, barely a year in, though this is my entrance.
Creatures can walk through fortifications right? How deep of a channel before the fortifcation would I need to make it unpassable by zombies?

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>>180213935
I made this

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12897

>retire adventurer
>decide to try to take him on as another adventurer
>its been 8 so far and I haven't been able to do it, the original keeps getting stronger

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>my fancy helmet will protect me!
Hit so hard that his head ripped off. It never happened to me before.

>>180214329
Just make a bowyer's workshop and turn some wood/bones into some crossbows. Draft 40 guys into squads and give them the crossbows.

Make your miners dig out strategic sniping areas in nearby walls/cliffs, smooth and carve Fortifications.

Turns your fort into a bunker network that can safely snipe everything on the map.

>Creatures can walk through fortifications right?
Only if the fortification is submerged in water and the creature is small enough to swim through the hole.
>How deep of a channel before the fortifcation would I need to make it unpassable by zombies?
One tile deep, 2 tiles wide should be fine.

>>180214090
They are surprisingly effective. Stone hits 3 times and each time it crushes some of zombie's parts.

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>>180214729
This. Stonefall traps used to be terrible but since pulping they're actually alright now.

>>180214554
seems interesting, anon. I will try it out later.

>>180214668
dont forget the quivers. unless anon has 40 leather lying around theres no way to slaughter any animals or buy any leather

>>180215171
Caverns

HOW DO I MAKE MY HUNTER CARRY MORE THAN 20 BOLTS SO THAT HE CAN ACTUALLY KILL SOMETHING

>>180215330
Use the military tab and increase the ammunition hunters can carry

>>180215438
THEY'RE SET TO CARRY 100 BOLTS, THEY ONLY TAKE ONE QUIVER THOUGH

>>180214979
Thanks. There are still a few bugs with the Manat race that I cannot solve and can't seem to find anyone who knows how to help me, but they shouldn't break the game or anything. The rest of it works fine, and if the Manat bugs ever get fixed, you should be able to update the game/save without any issues.

>>180215534
JUST INCREASE THE NUMBER, YOU DOUBLE ELF

>>180215330
More importantly, it shouldn't take that many fucking bolts to kill something.

>>180214329
>Creatures can walk through fortifications right?
They cannot.

>>180215610
THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO HELP ME
HOWEVER THE PROBLEM REMAINS
THE HUNTER WILL ONLY CARRY ONE QUIVER, WHICH ONLY FITS 20 BOLTS
>>180215857
THIS IS ON THE FIRST YEAR SO NOVICE HUNTER, AND I'M ON A TUNDRA SO I CAN'T SPARE THE FUEL TO MAKE METAL BOLTS

>>180214668
Swimming through fortifications doesn't depend on creature size. As long as it's got 7/7 water or magma on it any creature can move through it.

>>180216075
>when you're trying to designate an area but you keep getting the depot access overlay instead

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>>180216728
made me chuckle

How to clear vauts?
>corner cheese
Is it common knowledge?

>>180217610
>Embark on vault
>Abandon fort
>Reclaim
>Angels dead from starvation

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FUCKING FINALLY FUCKING DIALOGS SHIT...

My secret shame for like the last year since the new df version has been that names.lua wasn't updated.

I couldn't figure out what happened that broke the old "df.viewscreen_setupadventurest:new(), subscreen = 3" trick to get the simulateinput > custom name screen to come up and had shit luck fixing it.

Finally after several scripts I got a better feel for the gui side of things and went back at it, had some hilarious overflows (fucking terminal spamming errors at a thousand miles an hour) but finally got it figured the fuck out and set up properly:
https://pastebin.com/1ucrHEjs

You can:
>target a unit > rename them
>target an artifact > rename it
>set first fucking names

You no longer need to:
>specify -unit or -item
>use the shitty fucking -first "blah" method to set first names
>run the script again to apply the changes

>>180217970
It is not possible to embark like that without hack.

>>180218381
k

>>180218381
Target unit and what command?

>>180218484
So use dfhack

it was a meme response anyways

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kimberlite

>>180222168
Damn fine piece of mineral.

>>180219078
>pastebin > raw > save page as > [your df folder]/hack/scripts/names.lua
>target unit
>type names

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> While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful elf woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked—as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But—to cut a long story short—I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for whores."-Commander Urist

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>embarking near a tower
Mistakes were made

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>>180224689
>Pirotess

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>cloud of wicked smoke (turns everything into evil zombies) arrives
>seconds later a migrant wave arrives
>figure i can leave the front door open since the migrants and smoke aren't too close to eachother
>mfw 1 minute later

What's the most fun thing you've done as an adventurer? Mine is building up a cabinet of skulls, and a close second is chopping off all of the limbs but one off a goblin. I tried to get rid of the last one, but he died of bleeding before I could.

Currently only have access to tetrahedrite and Galena, so copper and silver.
The correct thing to do here is make silver Warhammers, never ever copper axes, right? Then make axes after I get iron for steel?

>>180228203
Yup. Silver warhammers are actually the best "mundane" weapon against goblins, with legendary users, as far as I know.

>>180228019
Race war in a big town. It was pretty diverse so you had elves, goblins, dorfs, animal people ect living in it. But the problem was that for some reason Goblins were the biggest fucking troublemakers and whenever I was walking around town they'd be starting trouble and beating up innocent townsfolk. Well a righteous man like my adventurer wouldn't stand for it, so he went to a bar on the outskirts of town, gathered some lads, and started a campaign to kill or drive out every dirty greenskin from the town wall. Now it was harder than it seemed, because you know, you had to be super careful to avoid witnesses since it'd be game over if we made an enemy of the civ, so I had to do all sorts of guerilla tactics and ambushes to cleanse the city, like waiting in alleyways for a goblin to pass by, or attacking with bows and crossbows so they couldn't see us, or slitting throats in the dead of night. Eventually we got them all though. I know it might seem edgy and stuff but doing all of that while trying to avoid getting caught was pretty intense and definitely fun.

>>180229429
>dwarf wing death squads

What's the best way to have a fortress of autistic dorfs who have no sense of right and wrong? Pit goblins in an arena with elvish traders and PoW?

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havent played in a few years. are there still faggot dwarves?

>>180228019
I ended up in a hamlet that had bandits for about 98% of its population. They surrounded me by the well and I ended up killing every single one over the course of 3 RL hours. I was able to get occasional rests by sprinting and jumping onto rooftops. It wasn't anything that flashy and I was covered in bruises and broken fingers, but something about strategizing it move by move was really satisfying, since my skills weren't much higher than theirs.

The other good one was when I found an enslaved demon in the center of a fortress beloinging to an enemy human population. The moment I asked him to come with me it was webs and 1-shot kills everywhere. I eventually lost him when we were entombed in ice together trying to cross the sea to an island owned by elves. This was in 34.11.

>>180230104
What do you mean faggots? If you mean homosexual dwarves, yes, and if you mean stupid dwarves, yes.

>>180230104
Sure. You can change 1 line of text if you want em out.

I could be wrong, but I think homosexual pigs, cows, and dogs are less of a problem than they were.

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>mfw adding [VERMIN_HATEABLE] to elves
[SPOILER]is this actually going to work? i want to see a dwarf who "absolutely detests Elves"[/spoiler]

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>fortress dies to zombie attack, absolutely 0 survivors
>come back to Fort as adventurer
>go inside
>dwarf merchant with horses inside amongst corpses
>horses are hauling items from inside the fort
>merchants are walking around picking stuff up
>mfw dwarf looters exist
Holy shit never knew this happened

>>180230739
>I could be wrong, but I think homosexual pigs, cows, and dogs are less of a problem than they were.
I'm finding the same thing

>>180230104
also virtually every historical figure migrant is married (to the opposite sex)

>>180236284
I got a migrant who was the daughter of the queen and married to a woman

>>180230104
Don't use the rapist and you will never even notice.

>>180233467
>science memes
>mastershit

Why am i not suprised?

>>180235781
I think that's from that bug where merchants and their wagons would randomly appear in forts after retire/reclaim.

>>180235781
>walking around picking stuff up
They're not doing that. They may be walking around, but they're certainly not picking items up. The only times creatures in the game will pick items up are in fort mode for thieving animals and kobolds, wrestling creatures gaining possession of items equipped by their targets, and fort mode merchants packing their stuff up from the depot.

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>skimming through z-levels
>stop when I see a bunch of misaligned asymmetrical pillars in a room
>they're moving around

Ostrich farm was a mistake.

>>180238556
oh god
if 3 Os stood in a line and didn't become a wall, I think I'd have an aneurysm

how do you remove driftwood?

>>180239451
I've never tried but I imagine magma would work
can you build a construction over it? a road?

How do you remove elf?

still don't really get construction. Ive got tons of idle dwarfs yet no one is doing the building Ive assigned.

>>180241470
[q] over the building
does it require a certain labour?

also make sure the site is accessible, you might've blocked it off in a corner (dwarves won't build on diagonals unless the tile is accessible from some other direction too)

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>>180241464
>minecart full of ostrich meat to knock the treefucker into a magma pool

>>180241464
They're allergic to steel. Apply liberally.

>>180230104
here's how to get rid of (((gay))) dwarves

from pathlib import Path
d = Path(".")
for x in list (d.glob("**/*.txt")):
with x.open() as f:
lines = f.readlines()
i = 0
num = [0, 0]
newlines = lines
for line in lines:
if "[MALE]" in line:
newlines[i] += "\n[ORIENTATION:FEMALE:0:0:100]\n[ORIENTATION:MALE:100:0:0]\n"
num[0] += 1
elif "[FEMALE]" in line:
newlines[i] += "\n[ORIENTATION:FEMALE:100:0:0]\n[ORIENTATION:MALE:0:0:100]\n"
num[1] += 1
i += 1
if num != [0, 0]:
print ("Straightified", num[0], "male creatures and", num[1], "female creatures in", x)
with x.open(mode = "w") as f:
f.writelines(newlines)
else:
print ("No changes to", x)


save as whatever.py and run it in your objects folder, you'll need python installed

Successfully genned my first Large/Very Long/Very High/Everywhere world to adventure in. What should I expect?

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How does someone survive this

>>180243636
it may be in the head, but it only damaged the liver

>>180243282
Dont do this, it creates thralling clouds

>>180243282
nice, thx senpai

>>180243703
>damaged the liver
>he's still living
next you'll tell me iceland isn't icy

>>180244997
Can't tell if you're serious or not. Liver damage doesn't mean instant death. It could take minutes or hours to bleed to death if the trauma is bad enough, or even days if the bleeding stops and there's functional damage.

Do semimegabeasts ever have children (outside of players capturing breeding pairs)?

>>180245957
I think so. pretty sure I had one world where ettins were breeding like rabbits

I don't really have room to breed two types of poultry. My two choices are blue peahens and giant masked lovebirds. Blue peahens are significantly more prolific egg-layers, laying 6-8 eggs to giant masked lovebirds' 4-5. But giant masked lovebirds are MUCH bigger, giving four times as many bones and three times as much food. They're also neater.

Should I breed the lovebirds, or is the amount I'd gain from the increase in egg laying simply more important?

>>180246340
If you're actually desperate for the foot, my wild and uneducated guess would be that peahens would do better
but given how easy it is to come by food in DF, unless you're doing some sort of crazy self-imposed challenge, that isn't likely. and I always prefer weird giant animals over normal stuff

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Behold
The best randomly generated squad name

>>180246340
>don't really have room
How? Even on a 1x1 embark using all the space you have available would take ridiculous time and effort.

>>180248171
More like... I don't want to tank my FPS with having like dozens of both, and the room I have my nestboxes and bird pastures in is a literal 9x9 square in the base of a tower. I'm also too lazy to manage two different populations, and feel weird about just letting the birds be unpastured. (they can't go outside because there's zombies and clouds of poison)

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>toy boat called desert of valleys

confirmed botes never ever

>>180235781
That's where all the good deals come from

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>>180251127

how the fuck is this thread so dead

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I just got ambushed by a bunch of farm animals who instead of attacking all ran into obstacles killing themselves. I dont get it

>>180254186
Lack of waifu and avatarfag shenanigans thank Armok. At least we're not like /cbg/.

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Fucking christ, the last siege had like 10 goblins, they really have it out for me now.

>>180255454
what the fuck lol

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Made it to magma sea for the first time. I took the liberty to dig a completely separate tunnel so it isn't connected to any caverns or whatever. What's the best way to get some magma?

>>180244997
I laughed like an idiot, nice one

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>tfw generating a thousand years of history

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>>180260835
>acting like a thousand is more than a drop in the bucket

I can't un-fucking-pause the game for some reason

I've spent hours on this fucking fort, what do?

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>>180261148
>acting like your inbreed pocket world amounts to anything of significance

>>180245417
not that guy but
>can't tell if you're serious or not
that's because you're autistic anon

>>180214854
>when you've been gone from DF long enough for Stonefall traps to be made useful.

Holy shit this is crazy.

>>180228203
Whats wrong with copper axes?

>>180261835
>Copper itself is a common, low-value metal and a sub-par arms material- more specifically, it is the second worst metal available for slashing weapons, but is pretty good for blunt weapons.

>>180260229
A magma piston. You can set it up so that it's reusable, where you dig out the bottom and cast the top of the piston in obsidian to make it like a treadmill. Just consider that pumping in a huge pump stack will take 100+ pumps, and you can see that even if the piston is slower and more fiddly it's the better way to do it.

>>180261835
Copper is too fucking soft. It's the same reason there wasn't really much of a "copper age" in real life.

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>>180261642
>acting like your boring ass world is anything

>mechanic gets into a fistfight with with a visiting axedwarf over an argument
jeez
>my scholar and woodcutter jump in and collectively manage to claw the axedwarf's nose off and several of his teeth out

I don't know whether to be terrified or amazed

Does masterwork DF still have that bug where animals never grow up?
Why is mwDF still at 0.34 even? Has it been abandoned?

>>180264960
Masterwork DF has 2 versions, one is for 0.34 and one is for the current version.

>>180265087
Oh, you're right, my bad.

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What's the best way to get rid of the water in caverns without using magma?

>>180268034
There is no best way, it all depends on what you think you can do and your specific embark situation. Not to mention that getting rid of it might not be the smartest solution to your problem anyway. So you'd need to tell us why you want to remove it in the first place.

You could pump it up into a river, off the map, or into a reservoir.

>>180268849
It's just in the way of my staircase and I don't want to go around it. Water is 1 z-level deep and all I really need is just being able to construct a few walls.
I have considered draining it into caverns below or off the edge of the map, I just don't know how fast cavern water refills. Cave-in would probably be the best, but not an option in this case.

>>180238556
How the hell do you come up with designs like this?

>>180269943
Distilled Autism.

>>180269360
So you can't section it off, despite only needing a small opening, right?
I would do something like
>go around (temporarily), prepare the staircase and all other necessary rooms in the level(s) below the water level.
>dig out enough space for a future reservoir on that level (surrounding the - possibly constructed - rooms)
>prepare everything for a smooth, swift construction of the problem-staircase (close-by stockpiles, etc)
>drain water into that new level
>construct staircase, connecting it to the lower level staircase dug before while water drains

>>180270673
Like this
1. situation
2. dig around, prepare rooms below and staircase as far up as you can
3. dig out more area to flood, add safety floodgates at strategic points (the ones in the image aren't necessarily at the best locations, I got lazy) and don't forget to connect them to levers and test them
>3.5 double check for leaks, check if all the right floodgates are closed/open as necessary
4. dig a connection by channeling a separating wall from above
5. area floods
6. as soon as possible, dig & construct walls/staircase

Depending on your situation and the details, the area might reflood, and if you want to go the extra mile, you can prepare a pump/floodgate construction to pump the water back on the original level.

But I think you should turn your problem into a positive design property of your fortress. And having rooms surrounded by water (possibly with windows) in a cavern is pretty cool, I think.

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>>180271729
Forgot my image

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>4th fortress lost in a row for FPS death
>all of them 5+ years
>a siege every 2 years with 10 recruits each

any mod that makes invasions more consistent?
this game is getting boring af
I miss 0.34 sieges so much

>>180255508
>Lack of waifu

Just you wait until you can marry NPCs.

>>180272136
Sounds like you generate shit worlds or don't make enough cash. Even vanilla I usually get 100+ creatures sieges.

>>180263178
how do you even generate a world with that little water?

>>180272136
Man, I remember playing bfme 1 and 2. Fun games, sort of starcrafty weren't they. Wish a new one would be made.

>>180269943
I wish I could tell you I have a method, but really I just designate on an element until it's "done". Even when I start with a plan I freehand modifications to it as I dig. When in doubt, add more z-levels.

>>180273417
this. sieges are legitimately fine in the current version. 140+ groups of goblins, humans, and blizzard men in my last fort

>>180273417
>>180274964

My last fort value is a little over 11 million dorfdollars and I always embark near at least one dark fortress and tower.
The problem is that the armies have to actually travel to your fort now and they may attack other shit instead.
So it's another RNG bullshit element. Before 0.34 there was at least a siege every year.

>>180274964
I'll add an anecdote to the pile. I've gotten sieges early and often, and have managed to hit the invader cap every time I've increased it.

>>180275931
what's the population of the dark fort?

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>>180276075

>>180276459
If you look on the DF modding forum you'll find a hack script which summons invasions out of thin air. Not really a solution, but better than nothing.

>>180276459
Whats this program again that lets you check worlds?

>>180276459
>Obok Roughdreamed
Is this the long lost cousin of Obok Meatgod?

>>180276893
Unfortunately force siege and CivAttack no longer work in DF2016 cause of how sieges behave now.

>>180277253
Legends Viewer

>>180277650
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164458.0
Just fucking look when anon tells you to look.

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What was the most crazy and hectic battle you staged in the arena?

>>180277885
holy shit
forgive me anon, I didn't believed
this is amazing

If modanon is still taking requests, there's something I'd like to see made. I'm requesting a natural ability that allows the user to, upon selecting it, deliberately turn into the creature of his choice for x amount of time. So it'd just be a template that could be modified for whatever someone wanted to add in, and could be added to the raws of any given creature.

>>180281042
this seems cool

I also want a mod that let's me suicide

I'd love one that lets me teleport myself and/or others

>>180281726
>this seems cool

Yeah I think its neat. I tried to do it myself but just couldn't crack it.


>I also want a mod that let's me suicide
It would be useful definitely. It'll actually be added to the vanilla game at some point, I think.

>I'd love one that lets me teleport myself and/or others
I think DFHack has this but it only works on the world map.

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>>180281987
>tfw I'll be able to finally become an honorabru dwarf samurai

drew come home

>>180281987
>It would be useful definitely. It'll actually be added to the vanilla game at some point, I think.
for sure, I can't wait until the game handles actions and gives more freedom to the player to act as he pleases

>I think DFHack has this but it only works on the world map.

I legit know nothing of how to use dfhack

I mainly want the mod to be able to test and control creatures better in adv. mode

shit ain't easy

Is there a way to make a civ only use obsidian swords?

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>Use random embark
>Look at my animals
>They're all the same gender

Is a tundra dorfy enough or should I go for a glacier?

I was hoping to get some good general advice on how to make my dwarves happier, I just got my first wave of migrants and I've never made it past a year. Any suggestions? I have a stupid amount of wood, if that matters

>>180282147
That reminds me, I need to get working on my TLR themed fort. Japanese high schools are actually pretty solid fort designs if you divide the athletic fields into proper stockpiles.

>set up cages with hungry heads and bugbats outside fort linked to levers
>goblins come
>release hungry heads and bugbats
>expect them to distract the goblins
>they just immediately fly off the map
perfect, very nice

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>>180288720

>>180287315
Maybe give them short swords but not metal?

>>180288720
that's pretty funny

>>180288468
engrave the walls, make sure all dwarves have their own bedrooms, make sure you have a temple, make your dining room really fancy, make sure they have clothes that aren't worn away

The temple and the clothes are probably the most important, and also the easiest

>>180288468
pay attention to their thoughts, they'll make it clear what is it they don't like or is missing in your fortress

>>180287315
I believe the way it works is weapons are automatically allowed to be made of metal, unless you add [TRAINING] which restricts them to wood or [CAN_STONE] which allows obsidian in addition to metal. So what you would have to do to prevent them from making them from metal is disallow the civ from metalsmithing entirely, by removing [PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR] from their entity file. Then they should be able to make short swords, but only from obsidian and wood.

rip thrad 2017-2017

>forgotten beast
>made of snow
>dies in one punch

>>180293937
It had a snowballs chance in hell...heh

FUCK

THERES MIASMA SPILLING OUT OF MY KITCHEN BUT I CANT FUCKIN FIND A CORPSE TO CLEAR

HELP

>>180294750
Flood magma in there

>>180294750
get a refuse stockpile you nig

>>180294750
food rots over time if its not put in barrels or pots

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>>180273951
Fucking with the elevation weights and minimum/desired region counts.

>>180281726
Suicide is easy enough so I'll leave that to others.

Teleporting yourself point to point: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/maxthyme/maxthyme-scripts/master/flashstep.lua

Teleport yourself to a different location on your quest map: https://github.com/maxthyme/maxthyme-scripts/raw/master/questport.lua

Grab someone and ride them through the air at warp speed: https://github.com/maxthyme/maxthyme-scripts/raw/master/launch.lua

>>180295026
>Grab someone and ride them through the air at warp speed
Oh boy

>>180294810
>>180294801
I have refuse piles, there's no food or refuse inside the kitchen as far as I can tell

>>180294790
Perfect

>>180295530
Did you check the kitchen with t? You might just not be able to see it visually or with k

>>180294594
>Elf 1 has been struck down
>Dwarf 1: Death is all around us. Begone fear!

>>180295026
>>180295163
Urist
Grab my XPig tail vestX
FUN!

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holy fuck

broke: humans
joke: dwarves
woke: elves

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>>180295163
>>180297014
Literally.

>>180297732
What?

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Fascinating. Three ginko woof floor tiles are keeping 5 out of the 7 starter dwarves above water. Nobody can swim of course! Besides the dwarfs one Yak bull also made it onto the logs just before the ice thawed. Lets see how long this can continue.

>>180302551
It is truly horrifying.

>>180262965
I know you can make pipes in this game, can they not be attached to pumps and sent up z levels?

Pipes are actually just a component of screw pumps. They can only pump up 1 z level per pump. You can pump it very quickly if you stack them, but it takes a shitton of resources to get it set up.

Are civilisations placed in a particular order?
I've noticed that a civ I've added only gets around 1 or 2, while others like humans can get up to 20 civs.

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>enjoying my quiet little fortress nestled in the foothills of a the worlds largest mountain chain
>two years of nice quiet relaxation with only the occasional kobold scaring the workers
>humans came to trade me books and sheaves of vellum and paper
>out of nowhere Fawara The Jeweled Vaults, a mythical dragon came out of fucking nowhere
>blasted a fucking novice metalsmith into ash
>charged directly into the trade depot and spat gouts of dragonfire onto the human traders and their bodyguards
>effortlessly decapitated two humans with swipes of his claws
>melted their copper and bronze trinkets into puddles of molten metal
>knowing the danger I assembled my dwarves at in the barrack which lay behind the singular door into the fortress
>the dragon slew the traders that tried to retreat into the fortress before ripping the door from it's hinges
>it immediately struck down 3 dwarves wearing the finest mail of dwarven make
>then as it reared back to release a blast of white hot dragonfire a brave dwarven miner swung his pick at the vile beast
>the dragon deftly dodged such a courageous yet slow attack... directly into a pit stretching into the bowels of the earth
>much rejoicing from the chefs were had for the tons of succulent dragon meat
>the military however heard the sweetest whisper from the dwarven gods
>"BONE ZONE

>>180307698
It is terrifying

>>180307530
What kind of region does your added civ require to start in?

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>First Cavaran
>This
what

>>180309807
Mountain
It's odd, because I have another civ with similar settling behaviours, and they tend to do a fair bit better

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oh god kill me

>>180310338
your civ is (or was) dead
doesn't really mean much but you won't get to request specific goods from the liaison for the first year or two, and
>chance of one of your dwarves becoming king/queen early on
>very small chance of immigration stopping when your pop is somewhere around 19

Begone page 10!

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mfw nobody can pass my dodge-me traps

>>180316037
The best kind of traps, especially the ones that make enemies blow up into tiny bits

>>180316037
>>180316148
What is a good drop height for a guaranteed gobbo explosion?

>>180316424
25z is confirmed kill as far as I know, but you'd probably need more in order to have confirmed explosions, also make the floor out of platinum, or silver or something.

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>>180316424
5 z = stunned
10 z = injured
20 z = dead, possibly exploded
25 z = chunky

>>180316570
I never knew the floor density would increase the damage.
Fucking Toady man...

>>180316424
Heavier creature's fall with more force. My dragon only fell 10z levels and instantly died.

>>180314352
It doesn't mean that. His civ may be dead, but the only thing you know from that message is that the outpost liaison is either dead or detained.

Using the latest LazyNewbPack, my Dwarf Therapist keeps crashing constantly. Any ideas?

>>180317279
DFHack autolabor?
Heard something about it causing trouble

>>180316928
fair enough, but I've had that happen probably a hundred times, and it's never been for any reason other than that my civ was dead. not certain but likely

>>180317416
Checked, it's disabled, thanks for the idea though

If I melt steel it becomes iron, right?

What's everyone's favorite dwarf fort lp? I just finished reading Syrupleaf for the second time.

>>180316570
Does the shaft of enlightenment still work?
Ie: dropping an armored dwarf onto spikes to get armoruser and shield skill ups

>>180320994
>shaft of enlightenment
No,it was fixed a while ago

>>180316037
I have my marksdwarf barracks overlooking my dodge chasm as an added set of wounders

Okay, so my magma piston works flawlessly for bringing magma up to the surface, but I still have a problem. What's the best way to get the magma out of the magma piston? The top of it is still about 20 z-levels below where I want the magma, and pumping it seems really finicky since the piston only moves a few 7/7 cubes at a time.

>>180320994
MATUL REMRIT

>>180321375
lmao post pic

Important stats for marksdwarves, if any?

I just started playing again, soon after getting my 3rd migrant wave some one suddenly became king. I assume that means that my civ is dying, how fucked am I? My fort was not ready for this.

>>180323628
It mostly depends on where you embarked.

>>180324701
A safe area, I need to learn how to get the hang of the military.
How long will it take for my King to lose his shit for not having any of the required rooms and items? In order to get the value I need should I just build a heap of stone crap and fill his rooms with it?

>>180325224
A big room with a ton of shit thrown in is usually enough, for the meantime. No need to be lavish until your fort's really set up.

>>180325224
as long as you have all the rooms designated for him, he'll probably be ok with a few years of them being of middling quality. especially if you complete his mandates.

>>180307698
Is bone still dog shit for actual protection though?

Bone is such a cool material for bilbo swaggins gear but I'm always anxious about actually using it.

>>180316570
>>180316779
>floor density matters
No fucking way. Only in DF are there urban myths anymore.

I would totally line my pitfalls with dense materials if that actually affects it. Shaving a couple Z's off the confirmed kill would be nice. I found out that pitting spears at the end of the 25z's just ends up cushioning their fall and they may survive.

>>180327350
>http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Density
>DF simulates falling by shooting the ground at you, so denser floors do more damage.

>DF 1.0 will come out within your lifetime

>>180327858
ok
but which release will be arbitrarily named as 1.0 when he decides it's the final one? somewhere in the .60.x cycle?

Let me see if I get this right:

BATTLE AXES:
>Excellent vs humanoids, DO NOT USE vs zombies, random vs FBs
>Steel >>>> Iron = Bronze >>>>>>>>> Rest

WARHAMMERS:
>Good vs humanoids, excellent vs zombies, random vs FBs
>Silver > Rest (all other materials roughly equal, even copper)

SPEARS:
>Consistently "meh" vs everything, including FBs which can become nigh-unkillable otherwise
>Steel >>>> Iron = Bronze >>>>>>>>> Rest

CROSSBOWS:
>rip

SWORDS
>???
MACES
>???

>>180328383
There's nothing arbitrary about his version naming anymore. He has a big box of index cards with all kinds of mechanical or narrative functions that he wants to be included in the game, and the version number is a rough percentage of how many of those index cards have been accounted for already in the game.

>>180327468
>i now need to determine the precise ranges that a goblin will explode at on regular floors versus floors of varying densities
The science never ends.

>>180329589
You also need to determine how far a dwarf can drop onto a featherwood floor without dying

>>180329167
Swords are more versatile than battle axes but trade some of their chopping power for a stab attack.

Maces are pretty much worse version of warhammers.

>>180330034
Maces are actually better at pulping undead than warhammers are, but against armored enemies they're worse

>>180329167

SWORDS:
>Okay all-rounders with regards to slashing and piercing, longswords have better reach, shorter blades have a smaller size and weight.
>Adamantine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steel > Iron = Bronze >>>>>> Rest

MACES:
>Good vs unarmored opponents, the larger contact area of maces means strikes are less likely to go through armor or damage internal organs, but lead quicker pulping.
>Platinum (strange moods only) >>> Silver > Rest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adamantine

>>180329167
Battle axes are really bad against giant creatures because of their poor penetration.

>>180330353
Do undead maintain their equipment when they raise the first time or do they stand up out of all their clothes?

>>180330941
undead raised from corpses are naked, undead that come from necromancers can have equipment, thralls from evil weather have all their equipment AND skills.

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uh
he did w-what

>>180331560
Most likely impaled on a spear/crucified/drowned someone after a worldgen battle and the viewer is telling the quality of his work.

>>180330784
>longswords have better reach
Reach isn't a thing in DF. Every melee weapon has an identical effective range.

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>>180331959
I figured out what happened. He was a bone carver in a fort I abandoned. So it must be related to his work with bones.
But I've found something even more puzzling. Apparently a dragon came to the fort and melted down some bars... and I didn't notice. Because it says it occurred in late winter, yet I abandonded the fort in late next spring.

>>180332003
But penetration is simulated. And long swords have greater penetration than short swords.

>>180332316
You're either using a bad mod or legends viewer is fucking up. Bars don't have quality levels. Neither do corpses.

>>180322940
Doesn't really matter. They'll skill up pretty quickly if you make a Colosseum. Just craft heaps of the stuff you need and draft like 50 of them.

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Any ideas to make the corners more aesthetic?

>>180332484
It is a bit modded, but I don't anything I installed could cause corpses and bars to have quality levels, that's hardcoded and all I changed was the raws. Probably just legends viewer misinterpreting the data.

>>180329167
Spears are better than other things against large/huge creatures, as long as they have organs.

Daggers aren't very good versus big stuff but they tend to home in on the spine and throat, leading to quick kills on usually unprotected spots. They also slash off unprotected limbs pretty well.

Bronze is also very slightly better than iron for slashing, but if you have iron you'll make steel anyway. The difference is so small though.

>>180330353
Good to know.

>>180332426
So? Penetration and reach don't mean the same thing, and implying otherwise is misleading. Nobody sees the word 'reach' and thinks "oh, that must refer to how well a weapon pierces armor layers". You could just as well pretend that contact area or material size or the minimum creature size required to wield correspond reach.

Is it possible to add beards as a body part in the raws? If I did would I have to gen a new world? Do lady dwarves have beards?

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>>180332865
Large suites in the corners.

>>180329589
Dropping onto ice, obsidian, and so forth from 25 z blows you up, 20~24 z can fuck your shit up on harder materials, didn't try with slade to see if it'll blow you up from a lower height though.

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>>180333696
Add the brackets around the BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:FACIAL_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS line and they will have beards.

Adding them as a body part is weird but it can be done, it was too fiddly and I got sick of dorfs wearing gloves on them but didn't want to give up having the beard as a grasp body part.

On the other hand, I discovered that by simply breaking up the [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:blah:foo:bar]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:etc:...]
lines where the hair length/styles are defined, you can have outsiders with beards and whatnot.

>>180334034
>On the other hand, I discovered that by simply breaking up the [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:blah:foo:bar]
>[PLUS_TL_GROUP:etc:...]
what do you mean?

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I'm switching to masterbloat.

>>180335942
>histories of greed and resourcefulness

Why are so many cavern creatures disabled in arena? I wanna spawn a magma crab.

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Time to shut it down.

>>180336194
>being afraid of some harmless dust

Say I have a tiny 1-wide channel of magma. Can I make my dwarves pour water on it for extremely rudimentary obsidian production? I just want 1 boulder of obsidian to make a magma-safe grate. Have literally no iron.

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>>180334859
Left: vanilla sets hair+facial hair length at the same time
Right: pulled the plus_tl_group lines for the beard/sideburns/moustache out and added their own length/growth/etc tags

>>180336170
Remove the arena restriction token from all raws.

>>180336531
Yes, but you need to do it from an extra z-level up so the water falls a z-level

>>180336531
Are you sure you don't have any magma-safe stone? Iron and obsidian aren't the only magma-safe things

>>180336894
Really? That's weird.
Just a pond zone 2 z-levels up should work, right? Will one bucket of water manage or do I need to build a reservoir for a full 7?

>>180337059
One bucket of water will work.

Also consider >>180336993, seems kinda tedious if you have some chert or something lying around

>>180336993
Oh neato, according to the wiki mica is magmaproof.
That's weird. I've touched/played around with mica in real life and it's this weird flaky crumb you can easily break with your fingernails. I actually laughed when I struck mica earlier, picturing mica furniture that chips on the slightest bump with your rock mug.
I can't believe this piece of shit is magmaproof.

>>180337260
Keep in mind this is the same game where a wooden wall or a locked wooden door can stop magma.

>>180337327
makes towel sense, the grate has magna on all sides but the wooden door is thick and only has one surface exposed, only a few atoms at a time if you will. because of convection the heat is evenly distributed to the rest of the door.
it's the same reason why your pots don't melt on the stove, but if they were sandwiched between two stoves they would ignite. also goes the other way: your freEzer only generates cold from one side, your fridge would break down from the cold in antarctica where it's cold everywhere.

>>180338203
i love you anon

>>180338268
not now mom

>>180338203
>makes towel sense
what?

>>180337327
>>180338203
It doesn't make sense. The game is incomplete, and that's the only sense in it. And wooden doors won't hold back magma, they'll catch on fire and be destroyed shortly after, like other non-construction buildings made from wood. Someday that will happen to wooden constructions as well.

Is there a way to heat and drink the snow coating on my shoes? Things are getting kind of grim.

>>180340870
Build a fire, pack snow in waterskin, heat over fire.

>>180341702
I know, but is there a way to get it off my shoes and into my waterskin? I left the snow area awhile back but I need more.

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>>180339967

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>Fortress is being swarmed by several dozen Rodent Men
>This music plays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExQQxv1D1ns

About to send down a squad of brave dorfs to deal with the thaggoraki scum. Wish me luck bois

How do I get sand out of the bags on embark?

Does atom-smashing improve FPS? I've got a shitload of stones and broken clothes on a single tile. Also is it fun, I could put a bunch of unarmed goblin pricks under it and make a big mess?

>>180347571
Yeah, it's generally a good idea to have an atom smasher on hand. I neglected to build one once and the lag got so bad in my game I had to abandon the fort

>>180344658
I just realized, I don't ever recall starting a game in a grasslands biome.

I set my first game up in a perfect location, besides the fact it is in "Joyous Wilds"

What should I expect?

>>180350595
>Joyous Wilds
Sounds like a perfect location desu, as long as you don't see giant keas or kea men.

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>when you try ending your fort by rushing the military in to the full goblin siege but they kill all the goblins and some of the animals and the rest run away
There was like 100 goblins and their pet animals. Half of them got spooked when they saw rushing dwarves.

>>180350595
Savage biome, I think it means you'll get a bigger pool of animals to spawn in, and things are supposed to be less peaceful. Still a "good" biome though so maybe it won't be a big problem.

Unless you get giant keas.

>>180350595
Unicorns that will wreck your shit. Good news though is you might be able to grow Sunshine, the most valuable alcohol by far.

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>I will never be able to build attractive looking forts

Someone get the goblins prepared for me. I'm ready to go to Dorf Valhalla

>>180354320
I don't really build nice forts either. Blocky shit can still look okay if you smooth.

>>180211783
Can nobles stay in the military without causing problems?
I want to reward one of my dorfs for his bravery and make him a baron.

>>180355306
No problems at all, in fact you should have a squad that is entirely nobles.

/dfg/ is dead...Yes, it is done!

>>180356689
I have improved my shitposting. That was not satisfying.

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Help. Every single fort I ever make ends up being an above ground fort.

I'm no dwarf.

The Forgotten Beast /dfg/ has come! An undead thread. Beware its autism!

>>180347071
Make glass stuff out of the sand. Or you might be able to dump the sand to get use of the bag, but I don't think you'll be able to make use of the sand if you do that.

>>180348017
>I neglected to build one once and the lag got so bad in my game I had to abandon the fort
>had to
Somehow I doubt that. What fps do you "have to abandon" at? I've been playing at about 10 fps for a while now, and although it's a bit annoying how slow it is, it's still playable, with patience.

>>180359667
I don't care about the sand, I'm just talking about getting cheap bags on embark.

>>180359123
Generate a world with caverns set to high openness, low density and low water and build there.

I have a small magma piston, which only brings up a small amount of magma at a time. This receptacle fills to 2/7 with each firing. What's the best way to take this magma and use it to fill a larger resevoir over multiple firings of the piston?

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>>180360430
Oops, forgot picture

I built my first above-ground fort today. Everything is made out of wood. How long will it last?

>>180360621
Use a pump. Even a manually operated one will be more than enough.
Although if it's going to be far away from the piston, I'm afraid it might just smear magma 1s all over the tunnel. In that case minecarts would be a better choice.

Why is the history and lore generator so intricate when 95% of it has no bearing on gameplay?

A lot of it can't even be viewed in full without a third-party client like Legends Viewer, which is crazy.

>>180362615
autism

>>180360845
depends on if your world has dragons I guess.

>>180360845
It's fine, wall damage hasn't been implemented. Wooden walls are indestructible.

>>180361043
Should I just keep expanding the resevoir as I fire the piston, then?

>>180363156
If you're worried about magma evaporating in reservoir, you could divide it with rising bridges. Once you have enough magma, you can expand filling area by lowering the bridges.

>>180327191
It's not great, but it's okay to give civilian squads since they're never meant to fight against goblins or titans anyway

>>180363156
That won't help. It will probably only make it worse. Your collection basin is already too large, it should be close to the size of the piston. Then you pipe the magma to where you actually want to use it.

>>180335942
>Masterbloat
Why the fuck would you play something so unstable and-

>34.11
Ok, carry on. I strongly recommend Orc Fort mode, it's pretty fun. It was also a collaboration developed separately from Meph's oversight, if that helps.

>>180365238
Dragon bone is magma- and dragonfire proof though

>>180365701
>It was also a collaboration developed separately from Meph's oversight
No it wasn't.
34.11 has the same problems as any other version of mastershit. Hell, that was the version where it picked up the names mastershit and masterbloat.

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>>180365346
But the problem with that is that I want the magma to be close to 2/7 so I'm wasting as little as possible when I cast the obsidian on top.
I'm talking about THIS resevoir, that I've used temporarily to see if I could draw magma that way. This is what I got after firing the piston twice. I was thinking I'd draw what I could after each firing, then expand the resevoir as it fills.

>>180366272
Yes it was, outside of Meph putting orc mode's updates into Masterwork proper. From what I've seen on the forums, some of the bugs in orc mode's development happened because Meph changed stuff in overall Masterwork without letting orc guy know.

When orc guy disappeared for like a year due to RL issues, Meph planned to take over orc mode and wrote up a roadmap. It would have made it far, far worse and would have bloated orc mode to the same amount of clutter as dwarf mode. Orc guy came back before that happened, thankfully.

>34.11 has the same problems as any other version of mastershit. Hell, that was the version where it picked up the names mastershit and masterbloat.
True, but what I meant is that MW 34.11 isn't an unstable crashing mess like MW 40.xx. It's all moot anyway because Meph disappeared forever on a "world tour," and I don't think he's actually worked on MW since December

How can I get rid of royal jelly? Or do I just need to constantly make more jugs if I wanna use bees?

>>180367021
Oh, it seemed like you were saying MW 34.11 was done by someone other than Meph. Still, I would argue that the differentiation you're making is like picking a bean out of a casserole and saying "don't worry, the cook didn't grow this" as if it redeems a shit casserole.

>>180368002
Prepared meals.

>>180368219
I have so much other shit that my cooks use instead. Is there a way to just get rid of it?

On the subject, is there ever any reason to make non-lavish meals?

If I forbid the ingredients of a dwarf in a mood, except for the main one after he's brought them to a workshop, will he not use it? I think this happened earlier, though I'm not sure.

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>I have this axe I could slice this bitch up
>Better pommel his shit up

>>180368462
I think if you dump both the jug and the jelly (like if you d b d over it, or view the jug and dump the jelly from inside) you'll get an empty jug and a contaminant spatter in your dump zone. It works thay way for other containers, at least.
Only if you just need more food items than you have raw materials for. In most cases food will be abundant and there's no reason to skimp.

>a titan snuck in through my animal pasture and slaughtered all my male reindeer
>since I'm the mountainhome I can't order reindeer bulls so I'm SOL if they don't happen to bring one

F U C K

>>180370978
Nope, it didn't work. Shame. I guess I can still force a kitchen to use the jelly through stockpile shenanigans, but I don't really care right now

>>180368462
>is there ever any reason to make non-lavish meals?
I usually make some biscuits just for looks, but there's no mechanical reason if you have enough ingredients.

>>180370993
What do you need reindeer for?
>not keeping animals in sealed underground room.

>>180372752
I thought it was sealed. I had a tower on top of it, I was just an idiot and forgot that titans could go through the murky pool under one of the walls.

I want reindeer as livestock, since they're generally less grass-intensive and still give good meat and milk. I'm considering just cheating one in, but that's probably a bad thing to do.

>>180373441
You could have been santaclaus

>>180370645
Its meant to represent positioning of the soldier and hands in a fight.
So he could be really close to the forgotten beast, making it difficult to swing the axehead, so he decides to smack it with the pommel as its smaller and easier to hit with.

>Figured I'd try and get back into df again.
>Get the starter pack
>PyLNP just crashes on startup
>Wait a day
>New release, PyLNP starts, everything seems to work
>Therapist doesn't start up at all
>Install MS Visual C++
>Therapist starts up, starts yelling about SSL errors
>Install some random Win64OpenSSL library/program thing
>Still crashes on read
>Find some other guy's fork that works with DFx64
>He didn't put up the binaries

I mean, I know the other guy that's 'maintaining' it is sick and all, but why did they even update LNP to 64bit DF with all these bugs.
What's the last LNP that has 32bit DF? Is there even an archive?

>>180375972
>Using a starter pack in the first place
I can understand using the rapist, but you gotta take those training wheels off at some point soon.

>>180376671
Is there really anything you get from not using therapist?
It just gives me spreadsheets, and I like spreadsheets.

>>180376671
if you can justify the rapist you can justify the rest of the starter pack

>embarked in tundra with 0 trees
>breach caves
>no underground trees
O fuk
I'm using fucking copper bins, shared dormitories, and had to buy every barrel from the caravan

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>>180377078
>I like spreadsheets
Now this guy is who should be using the rapist.