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Slap that pussy edition

****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
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Previously >>179683441
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Erster für deutsche Schiffsmädchen.
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>>180004451
CV's need to do the lowest direct damage in the game if they have the most mobility, most safety and most vision.

0/10 you must have a very empty life if you are still comitting to this gaslighting. Keep dreaming that WH will remove them when they just released a prem cv moneymaker and will release another one.
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Reminder Atago is perfect
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>>180007274
Holy hell what happened to the link https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/6huylk/why_is_atago_so_perfect/
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Did WG finally kill wowsg?
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One of you dumbys got your post on leddit banned.

Also ily Hotel_a_QT
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>dual purpose guns can be firing normal rounds and AA rounds at the same time
Such bullshit
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>>180008476
Furries belong to camps
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>>180010073
I think it would be fair if ships which have DP main guns couldn't use DFAA while engaging surface targets. Beyond that, it would get too tricky.
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>EU 0
>NA 2
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>>180010426
I don't think Battleships should be allowed to have DP guns that fire at air targets.
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How big is your ego if you claim there is no XVM in WoWs?
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Why are tier VIII-X battles so shit? It's like the worst players gather there.
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>>180013350
I'm willing to bet that "someone" was Hotel_a_QT and that his XVM malfunctioned.
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Just met Anumati in an NA vs. EU showmatch, fantastic guy, really skilled and polite, would div with him given the chance (if he so chose)
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>>180010098
Hotel is that you saying that? t.t
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So who's actually to blame for the passive meta? Is it actually any ship problem? Or is it just try hard statpadders getting way too serious at the high tiers.
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>>180013704
BBs being too strong so cruisers are afraid of getting into caps to support DDs.
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>EU vs. NA
>SF losing to Throw Throw Throw
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>Anumati BTFO
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>Anu got 11 plane kills
>11

And this guy is the face of /wowsg/, what an absolute shitter.
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Why is Notser grunting and groaning in his latest video? It sounds very weird.
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Will NA ever recover?
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>>180014719
*every video
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>>180013704
In case you haven't noticed describing high tier gameplay as "unforgiving" is an understatement. The game is currently set up to where whoever moves first loses.
>Cruiser?
>Over exposed or committed to a turn for more than 0.000000000000021 seconds?
>Deleted
>if you're not deleted then enjoy basically being so dead that a stray wave could kill you because you don't have the battleship magic bullshit healing potion
>Destroyer?
>Get detected for half a second?
>Literally everyone and their grandmother who just signed up and grinded to tier x just to singularly fuck you over focus fires you into oblivion
>Also there's radar so fuck you
>Also CVs hate you too hope you like being dive bombed into oblivion
>Or if not dive bombed then constantly spotted so their third cousin three times removed can join in on focus firing you
>Battleship?
>Get burned into oblivion and torped if you haven't mastered the art of "If I was a DD would I fucking torp me right now"
>Carriers?
>Basically what happens to DDs because everyone wants to burn you alive

Now just you hold on my baby boy because I'm not done yet.
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>>180013704
>>180015159
You see Carriers and Battleships being on fire is actually really interesting because it shows how fucking retarded the vast majority of the player base is.
Battleships originally didn't work properly. Anyone could penetrate them really easily. That got fixed but the playerbase never forgot. They also learned
>my AP is no longer working as it used to
>surely HE is the solution to my current predicament
and so that's why everyone spams HE at battleships all the time. Because the vast majority of the playerbase don't know when it's advantageous to shoot AP at one, so just fires.
At one time carriers could basically shit on anything no matter what. So the playerbase reaction wasn't so much a knee jerk as it was a back flip into another fucking room. Since then people have devoted ships ENTIRELY to AA, they'll stick together and form massive AA bubbles, they'll say shit like the Hood's bull shit power creep missiles aren't broken.

So basically what we have learned here is that every ship is the blame and the playerbase is idiotic. Welcome to world of warships where nobody plays a ship game, they play it to see the color purple and ejaculate through their eyes.

To sum it up
>Destroyers try to cap or do the heavy lifting
>Cruisers won't support them because they don't want to get deleted for showing broadeside for more than half a second
>Battleships won't push because they don't want to get set on fire or torped
>Carriers are pretty much exclusively a support role but this kind of shit is why there's so little of them in the first place
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>>180015159
Then its simple we nerf Battleships.
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>>180015398
>At one time carriers could basically shit on anything no matter what.
No, they were never OP you dense fuck.
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>>180015417
A good idea! Except literally nobody not even WG themselves know how to do this. Every single suggestions is less a suggestion and more
>"I want to put battleships into a medically induced coma"
with retarded ideas like minute long loading, even more turning radius, gimped AA, basically make them floating barrels of xp. Which in case you haven't noticed, battleships are WGs cash cow. Go google world of warships. Tell me what kind of ship game it is.
>free online battleship game
>free multiplayer game about battleships.
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>>180015417
Buffing cruiser survivability would be better imo. The battleship is the counter to cruisers, but they shut them down way too hard.
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>>180015659
But those things do need to be nerfed you fucking idiotic babbie
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>>180016663
Do you lack brain cells? Do you not have your carer? I'm agreeing with him you dim witted fuck. I'm saying the problem is that WG doesn't even know how to fix BBs and any community suggestions are less a suggestion and more just an effort to kill the entire class. Which is something they're straight up not willing to do. Maybe WG does have a plan, maybe they know exactly how to fix BBs but just aren't doing it. IMO I think cruisers need to be buffed so they can actually take a bit more punishment. A huge part of the fear is that at high tiers a lot of battleships are stupid accurate, stupid fast, have stupid good AA, and in the case of the Yamato, give zero shits about whatever your angle is, it'll just punch through you.

Battleships need something done to them because they're primarily one of the biggest reasons for the passive meta. They're the whole reason that a DDs supporting friendly isn't going to support them. But how do you actually fix it? Give me a legitimate suggestion that isn't an effort to just kill the class. Additionally put yourself in WGs shoes.
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>>180017086
>arguing with lunaticred

Stop, he is a insufferable sperg.
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>>180017086
Simple, swap BB dispersion from wide to long, increase vertical dispersion, slightly reduce AA effectiveness so its still usable and not wiping whole squads within seconds. Don't nerf their speed, just made it so their they don't speed up very quickly, and bleed speed a bit more while turning.

Might also be wise to decrease babbies alpha by a 15 to 20%, and increase the fire damage they take.
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>>180017986
>and increase the fire damage they take.

This is one of the reasons for passive play in the first place.
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>>180017986
>increase the fire damage they take
an entertaining idea but that'll just keep the babbies blue lining even more
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>>180017086
>Give me a legitimate suggestion that isn't an effort to just kill the class. Additionally put yourself in WGs shoes.
These two things contradict. As for the WG, they arent losing massive numbers of players bc of a BB meta, so they are not changing other than introducing Kaga.
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>>180018169
>>180018145
Then why not cap their range at 15km. They have to get in the fight then.
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>>180015398
>Because the vast majority of the playerbase don't know when it's advantageous to shoot AP at one, so just fires.
A BB burning up will be alive less longer to delete you. For some ships like Bertin HE is simply better 94% of the time.
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>>180017086
Increase their healing power.
That way players get to farm even more damage off of them and everyone is happy.
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>Atago firing AP at my Baltimore
What did he meme by this?
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>>180018307
I'm not all too sure if that'd work. Lets look at the Japanese cruiser line for example
>VIII - Mogami
>14.2km range, buffed to 15.7km with their range mod
>.7km buffer to harass without worry
>IX - Ibuki
>15km range, buffed to 16.5 from their mod
>1.5km buffer
>X- Zao, which is at 16.2
Really all that idea does is just allow cruisers to get in closer while not letting battleships fight back. 1km might not seem like much but it's a big difference when it comes to things like this. Cruisers are more maneuverable and agile, a decent player could keep up that buffer and continue a consistent and focused harassment for most of the time if they played right.
>>180018512
I feel like that might have more of a playerbase issue rather than a gameplay issue
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>>180018871
Serves the babbies right. They deserve to have their class reduced to scrap like what happened in real life.
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>>180019008
Cool. Then the game loses a lot of life and we become Steel Ocean.
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They should just rip off Warthunder's repair system. Fires, flooding, and repairs are all automatically fixed at a slow rate. You can prioritize them to speed that up, but it slows down your gun's reloading. It would make the current repair system less retarded across the board and weaken battleships the most. At the same time, reward battleships with exp for receiving lots of damage, like say starting at 80% and up of their health pool, and increase the amount of fire and flooding damage a single repair party can heal. Everybody wins and battleships are forced more into a tank role than a sniper role.
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>>180019139
Then it deserves to happen. Anyone who looks at a battleship and think it looks cool is a fucking retarded mong. Like Americans and like fat fucks.
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>>180019408
Good talk. Productive. Solid
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Tier VII best tier
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>>180019748
Tier 1 is the best due to it being pure.
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ok so nelson kgv lion and conqueror are all inside the test server files. neat
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>>180019596
t. Babbie
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>>180019938
Nice comeback.
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>Chinese bote nicknames
>污大老爷/Lewd Grandpa: Udaloi. "污大老爷" is read as "Wu-Da-Lao-Ye", which sounds very similar to Udaloi's Chinese phonetic translation 乌达罗伊 (Wu-Da-Luo-Yi). Well, consider that she's quite a good DD hunter, calling her a lewd grandpa who goes after little underage botes isn't too far of a stretch.
China why
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>>180019795
so looks like nelsons stock hull is an amalgamation of 1920's but with her 30's tower expansion and rodney's kingfisher launcher but still sticking with her 20's aa armament. lets hope they have her 1944 refit with significantly better aa as her b hull

they have removed the 15in gun upgrade from kgv and her citadel is now deep as all hell several feet below the water line and behind a fuckload of armor. her a hull looks to be after her first refit they got rid of the unrotated projectile rockets. noidea what her b hull will be

lion still has her 419mm meme guns. her hull looks to be some kind of weird mish mash of aa ideas about half and half pompom mounts to bofors willing to bet they will just make her b hull have more twin orlikons and replace the pom poms with bofors her armor looks the same as kgv just her citadel seems slightly less deep

conq is still a meme. covered in sextupe bofors and other meme aa. Her citadel isn't as deep as kgv but it's still deepo

these are basically german ships with better main guns in exchange for bad secondaries memes and easier to damage upe belts
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Have you ever had a ship you lose every match in no matter how well you do? Like you could sink all 12 enemy ships single-handedly but somehow you'd still lose?

I have.
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>>180022683
Alabama

I have done so well in the fucking thing. I have carried so hard in it. Keep losing somehow
First ship I ever got kraken in
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>>180015639
I remember back when my midway had fucking jets and i could delete any ship at will due to the speed of the planes and how close they could drop the torps and arm them. I will readily admit midway was OP at the time. One of the reasons the top 5 highest damage games on the server were 5 midways. (later to have the party crashed by chain chomp's montana)
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NA btfo lmao
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>>180022683
Hiryuu, going from a 70% win rate on the Ryujo to 35% is pretty painful.
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>>180022683
Budyonny. I do very well in this ship, but my team throws every time I use it. It's cursed. I even had a 60% WR in Kirov, 65% in Aoba and 55% in Nurnmeme. In the Bud my WR was as low as 37% at one point. I got it at exactly 50% very briefly and then I lost 8 games in a row. It's at 44% right now.
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>tfw Anumati got BTFO
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>>180024630
>no proofs
Sure kid
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>>180022298
Please tell me WG removed USN AP angles and RN heal. That thing is retarded
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>>180026640
How do you even end up in this situation?
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>NA got BTFO 6:3 as predicted by the dead sea scrolls
Nice. I may get myself a Warspite paying squat for it.
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>EU btfo NA 6:3.
Best server, desu.
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>>180026740
baBBies reverse away from enemy ships immediately
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>>180026737
no idea. hopefully not the rn meme seems to be that they get good guns with bad pen and are almost as difficult to citadel as german battleships. but their upper belt will be only 32mm not the 100+ of the germans. And they have huge absolutely gigantic super sctuctures like fucking ginormous huge super structures. I have a feeling they need that heal with the kind of regular pen and he damage they will take from high tier cruisers. their guns have bad pen so the angles are probably necessary for them to even be competitive.

Without the heal I have a feeling that these will turn into very cowardly snipers instead of the low hp high heal back counter to german brawlers by brawling ships they seem to want to be.
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>>180022298
>baBByships that can't get citadeled, but their gun stats invite shitters into """"sniping""""
)))))))))))))))))
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>>180027519
which is to bad these things should shit on german battleships in the 11-10km range. but I have a feeling they will nerf the shit out of the heal, and with the low up and horrifying upperbelt people will just hide at 20k
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>>180027350
Than give them a little more powerful Colorado heal? Like 0.8% per second, not outright 2%. T10 can outheal 6 guns Des Moines DPM, considering that citadels are out of question. While at the same time it lolpens Des Moines. This is stupid.
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>>180027907
conq can't lolpen like yama
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Which NA and EU team played worst overall?

My guess is APOC and TTT
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>>180028789
honestly I thought TSF looked really bad
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When do we get results from correct gambling?
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>>180028291
It won't be seen from space like Hotel. So Conq can sneak.
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>>180028291
I knew lion was basically just a KGV with different guns with a bunch of other modifications, but I could have swore they had slightly different armor layouts. in game they are virtually identical
>>180027907
I was wrong conq should be able to lolpen des memes. tbqh though you probably shouldn't be trying to brawl with a bb. if you can get it inbetween heal cool downs or when you can fire from behind an island shit should be ez. she has no deck armor or uper belt to resist he and her super is huge.

Also remember RN get that horrible damage control immunity cooldown so you can burn her bad
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qt
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>>180010994
Why is it ok for them to fire at surface targets?
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>>180028924
Anu played flawlessly.
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>>180028924
TSF is team special forcers right?
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>>180030028
>1 plane shot down
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>>180029835
Its not. To be honest I don't think battleships should be allowed to use secondaries.
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>>180030351
You can't apply random match metrics in competitive play, i'm sorry, try again
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>>180015159
But cruisers have a superior magic bullshit healing potion to battleships at high tiers.
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>>180030917
but I just did and its kinda hilarious that you can somehow justify 1 plane shot down as a good contribution
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>>180031191
They have the exact same one. If you're thinking of British cruisers, British battleships are also about to get the same bullshit 2% heal.
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>Anumati loses and blames his team
>Gaishu loses and claims it was a victory

Why are "unicums" in denial so much?
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>>180030917
you got raped.

nothing less would be expected from a shitty dadclan reject

LMAO
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>>180030289
They might as well rename themselves to 'very special forces'
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>>180031696
Fuck off raptard, seriously you're garbage player who should just shut the fuck up after all your failures
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>play for the first time in a few weeks
>4 of our ships go between the islands to D
>they all die
>They where warned

I literally can't be bothered with these brainless goons.
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>>180032621
TSF played well, they were almost going to break OMNI.
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>>180032997
Why are you so far away from the action?
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Anusmati blown the fuck out lmao
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>>180033713
Helped capture C then moved to A, thing is enemy ships around D will be useless as the islands keeps them out of range and out of action meaning we could deal with the ships at A easier. Well that was the idea kinda doesn't work when 4 of them decide to go down suicide alley.
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So let me get this straight.

Gaishu_Isshoku demanded to fight F22xRaptor in a 1v1 because bullying shitters is fun, amiright?
Raptor agreed and chose the Des Moines.
Gaishu chose the Minotaur.
Gaishu created the room for the battle and chose the worst map (Ocean) for Minotaur.
Gaishu put spectators on his own team and told one of them to not die.
Raptor played like a donkey but still beat and killed Gaishu.
However, because Gaishu told the "spectator" on his own team to not die, the game isn't over.
A couple seconds later, Raptor got hit by the unavoidable torpedoes that was fired at a very close range and the game ended as a "victory" for Gaishu even though it was Raptor's win because the game would've ended after Gaishu died if he didn't have a spectator that was kept alive for malicious intents.
Gaishu still refuses to admit it was Raptor's win today (look in the previous thread or in the Discord channel).

>Cheating against Raptor to win a meaningless and pointless battle
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>>180035495
Proofs of 1v1? I also don't believe you, raptor is a fucking blue "unicum" while gaishu is a real unicum.
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/ussdonaldjtrump
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>>180016663
Their turning circles are already obscene. Buff torpedo detectability instead.

>>180018871
>VIII - Mogami
>14.2km range, buffed to 15.7km with their range mod
What did he mean by this?
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>>180035794
>turning circles are obsine
No they are not. It needs to be 25% wider
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>>180031604
>Note that not all damage can be 100% repaired. The Repair Party consumable restores:
>Up to 10% of citadel damage for battleships.
>Up to 30% of citadel damage for cruisers.
Shitpost elsewhere
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>>180037661
Comments on your victory against NA's best Minotaur?
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>>180037829
Don't encourage retard slap fights.
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>>180040021
Agreed, but if Raptor lost, the shitposting would be hundred times worse.
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>>180040860
>raptor agrees to 1v1 to prove his point
>wins
>washes his hand of the argument
>retards cant handle this
really makes me think
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>>180042381
I know that tripfag and that's not you, shame on you for impersonating.
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>>180042798
>tripfag
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>>180004451
yay you used my image
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Started playing carriers, as a strategy/RTS fan this is really quite boring
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>>180045081
they are, find other games to play too. that is if you are a cv main, played mostly command and conquer games to it is quite easy to play carriers.
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These teams are fucking shameful, this has been happening more recently
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Why is Raptor spamming the thread thinking we care about some team battle between 2 clans no one cares about?
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ok, im new to the "stats" side of WoWs, and why is warships.today dead? is it outdated or something?
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>>180046629
It doesn't provide as much autistic detail as wows-numbers.
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>>180046449
>Why is Gaishu so bad?
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>>180035682
https://my.mixtape.moe/dbfyln.mp4
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>>180048902
>it's just a 1v1
>haruna didnt kill himself
pathetic
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Have they ever discounted t10 ships before and if they have does anyone remember what %?

I'm about to buy the des moines, but dont know if it will be cheaper to buy it now, and outfit it with 1/2 off equipment, or wait for 2 weekends when it's on sale and use full price equipment.
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>>180048902
>>180049967

God it's so fucking cringe hearing raptor though.

"LAMAO, NICE SHIP FAGGOT"

It's like hes a 13 year old.
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>>180050450
He could probably beat you in a 1v1 too
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>>180050059
Christmas and Victory day. The discount was worth less than half the price of fully equipping it.
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>>180050450
Mentally he is.
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>>180050971
I don't beat up retards.
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>>180050971
ok raptor. you can try to turn this around on me, but:

You're gonna have to learn to live with people not liking you though. Can't act like a whiny bitch all the time, Oh, and get your feelings hurt by a woman of all the people on the discord, too. You'll have to learn to live with that.
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>>180050059
It was a 15% discount. For some reason it wasn't even announced with the weekend promotions it formed part of…
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>>180051945
>>180051354
awesome, thanks anons

one more question, i have not played the new orleans since before it was buffed, what's the opinion on it compared to the other t8 cruisers now?
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>>180052815
It is much much stronger as a radar threat now because there is almost no gap between her concealment distance and her radar range.
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>>180035495
>Gaishu_Isshoku demanded to fight F22xRaptor in a 1v1 because bullying shitters is fun, amiright?
actually it was raptor saying he could beat any Minotaur 1v1 because it's the worst T10 cruiser (his words, not mine) and gaishu took him up on the offer
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>>180054306
Then he lost, and is now so butthurt about it, he wants to pretend he was the victor.
Really, just another story about a "expert" e-sport loving faggot thinking he was untouchable because of all the ass kissing he received.
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>>180054819
just because you say something doesn't mean it's true
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Battleships need to be more accurate.
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>>180057030
I hope French BBs are snipers since most had turrets on the front.
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RIP NA
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>>180060454
What is happening in that SS?
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>>180060739
Anumati got btfo by EU
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>>180060739
the autismo that thinks he's the best CV on NA because of his T5 sealclubbing win rate got shit on by EU
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>>180061390
>>180062935
Why the -1 on Ryujos?
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>>180063364
they're spectators, it was a tournament game and they have to kill themselves to spectate properly so they do it in CVs.
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>>180063654
Why didn't flamu play?
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>>180063797
Because he'd get found out as a shitter of course.
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>>180063797
he's not on any of the competitive teams, not as part of the actual competitive sections anyway
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>>180060454
This is such a Raptor image.
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>>180064218
raptor images are usually shittier
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Why can't you guys keep a thread alive like the rest of /vg/?
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>>180067435
its either ded on NA off hours or its cancer-posting.
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>>180067435
You're looking at this the wrong way. Why can't the rest of /vg/ slow down with the shitposting?
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Tried taking down an Independence in my Mutsuki

My shells were literally SHATTERING on his armour, and when I did hit it was for a measly 280

Literally took me minutes to kill him, even after landing a couple of torps
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>>180068279
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>>180068535
Looka this shit!
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>>180068819
Try IFHE))))))))))))))))))))))))
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HEY! This is Noster

And today I'll be suck on the dick of the mighty

YA MA TO
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What if Hindenburg had 3x3 Scharnhorst guns? Or 4x2?
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I-i love s-stuttering when getting d-dicked!!!
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>>180069669
>lolpens Minotaur
>AP and HE alpha take ~4% hit
>fire/min and dmg/min approx halved
That's taking Scharn's current reload.
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>>180069669
What if Hindenburg is removed from the game?
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>>180071886
What do i get in her place then?
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>>180072017
After T8 your ship will either be Soviet or US or UK
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Will he grow a pair and do it? Place your bets.
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>>180072678
If someone lets them use an EU account, sure. But if he loses he will claim if was an unfair fight and pretend the fight never happened.
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>>180072678
PT is up right now. They could easily settle this right now.
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>>180072678
Does Rex even play warships anymore? Never seen him online
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>>180072678
That was fast.
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>>180056261
What part of his post is not true you dumbass
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>>180073098
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Do it on PTS.
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>>180073283
Has to be live server, so it stays in annals of history.

And since he was the one claiming to be able to crush me, onus is on him to move to EU.
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>>180073552
>rex pussies out immediately
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>>180073552
Please go retarded cockroach. Get on PTS and fight him there instead of making retarded excuses.
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>be cockroach
>demand to 1v1 someone in a yamato
>start to backpedal and say it has to be done on a different server instead of the global test server

Hahahahahahah and subhuman cucks defends this cockroach who takes a fucking shit with his wireless headset to show everyone how "cool" he is
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>>180074236
>I called out my own server
>Faptor jumped in and claimed he can beat me in T8 BB
>claims i am making excuses for not wanting him to fight me on the server where challenge was issued, despite it having nothing to do with him or NA.

Like I said faptor, when you have free time from your misinformation attempts, feel free to come over anytime. I will be waiting.
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>>180074537
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can you guys, like, just buy plane tickets to an equidistantly located city, fly to the airport hotel, grab a room, buttfuck each other until your brains fall out and stop being gay for each other already?
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>>180074537
>Misinformation

That cockroach logic. It's like Erdogan cloned himself. It's a screenshot of what you said so go to the PTS and fight him in your fucking t10 BB and be done with it instead of making shitty excuses to raise the goal post.
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>>180074705
>cockroach
>shitty excuses
>goal posts
good job dodging the issue, and here is the actual conversation. Like said Faptor anytime feel free come here so I can blow you the fuck out in your Tirpitz.
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>>180075034
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>>180075132
>>180072678
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>>180075034
>posts the exact same chat logs
>proving yourself wrong
>keeps being delusional

You said Raptor called you out so that he must play against on EU but we can all see that it was you who called him out. Keep raising the goal post, subhuman roach. I think it's cute how you're trying to backpedal and how you lied to everyone that it was you who fought against Raptor and beat him with a biplane in Warthunder when it was someone else.


You are fucking pathetic
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>>180069669
If Hind would have 9 Scharnhorst guns it would be a Scharnhorst, on a T10. Their stats are extremely close
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>>180075179
You called Raptor out at 12:01 PM

He said he could beat you in a t8 BB at 12:06 PM

In your own words, the "onus is on you for calling him out". So get on PTS and fight him there.
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>Drama on thread
>It's NA and EU sperging at each other again
Why can't NA and EU be chill and ubermensch like SEA
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>>180075430
You mean the same SEA that records voice com, spergs, shitposts, impersonates and obsesses over other anons while having "server" pride in a very autistic fashion? Ya, so chill. Fucking braindead monkey
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>>180075197
>>posts the exact same chat logs
get your eyes checked

>>180075331
>You called Raptor out at 12:01 PM
>chat log clearly shows @EU
wow seems we have massive case of blinds in wowsg
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>>180075197
>we can all see that it was you who called him out
None of Rex's posts are directed at raptor before he butts in claiming that he would rek Rex.
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>>180075631
>>180075608
Kys retarded samefag
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Rather than spinning facts and pretending to be blind, why dont you put the same effort to coming over to EU server, faptor?
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>>180074236
Who the fuck is even Rex?
Where does he come from?
All i know about him is that's an autistic azerbaijani who created the clan and that's all.
I don't even think he's from 4Chan, just like his RDDT friends.
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>>180075979
>>180076068
after you
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THE CLAN REX. HAND IT OVER.
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>>180076068
A turk who lives in Sweden. I don't recognize him from CBT and OBT days but I do know Rex gifts shit to people to make them like him.
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>>180076150
keep trying,
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>>180076150
wtf how do I get Rex gibs?
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>>180004758
incomplete and poorly designed

>RN Tier X is an 18" setup

have the naysayers offed themselves yet?
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>>180025864
You want proof that the midway had jets in the CBT?
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>>180077139
>Can't overmatch anything more than a 406 mm gun can
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
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>>180076480
you pledge to jihadi the infidels, like bestest muslim tradition
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>>180078808
speaking from experience, anon?
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>>180078424
It can overmatch 30mm of cruisers armor
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>>180080664
He probably gave up because his attempts at false-flagging and stirring up drama didn't work because Luger is immune to it.
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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.
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>>180080879
Graf Zeppelin: buchstäblich die süßeste.
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>>180080858
>Tioga
>Gave up
>Been doing this for almost half a decade on /vg/

Stop flattering yourself.
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>>180081464
What changes the nature of an autist?
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>>180081512
A MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS!
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Have baBBieships ever been actually nerfed?
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>>180080664
I'm on vacation my dude. I'm not autistic u r. Can't talk much more I'm at the gym
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>>180015417
Why not buff CVs? Think about it for a minute. It counters BBs.
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>tfw no qt hotel gf
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>tfw no qt Hotel_a_QT gf
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Why are tier 6 BBs so fun?
Fuso, New Mexico, Bayern, all are very fun, strong ships. I even have a hard time picking a favourite.
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>>180088364
warspite is trash
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>>180088537
New Mexico is trash and worse than that, doesn't even have an interesting gimmick.
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>>180084082
>>180086139
Get in line
>>180008476
I was first
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>>180079842
>HIV
W O W
O
W
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>tfw no qt Hotel_a_QT bf
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http://imgur.com/a/YZ4ob nelson
http://imgur.com/a/jnPW9 KGV
http://imgur.com/a/AlSBK Lion
http://imgur.com/a/BHdCv Conq

everything that's green is 32mm or less. yama is going to rape these things
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>>180091681
What's so special about him?
>Depressing attitude
>Makes up excuses to not play with /wowsg/ unless they're Abrach/Chain
>Repeats generic opinions that the majority already agrees on to appear "intelligent"
>Thinks he's the best
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>>180089575
Ehm, what?
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>>180092641
maybe he has a good boyhole
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>>180091817
>everything that's green is 32mm or less.
Even the weather deck?
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>>180095078
everything. hotels are going to rape everything after t7
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>>180092641
>>Thinks he's the best
I see this about everyone with good stats but I never see any of them actually claim to be the best, usually that's only blunicums doing that
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>>180096332
I'm the best
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Yay it's summer, any news on what new line of ships we will get in gamescom? Also did anyone find out who the creep was that kept stalking our stats and adding it to a spreadsheet?
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>>180097219
RN BB's basically confirmed. they seem to be pretty schizophrenic in their design.

the creep was some canadian jew named apparent according to tioga.
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>>180097474
>RN BBs
>looks schizophrenic
what

>Jake
>Canadian Jew
what
>>
>RN BBs - Radar gimmick (according to screenshots)
>KM BBs - Hydro gimmick
>USN BBs - AA gimmick
>IJN BBs - NO GIMMICKS! JUST BIG GUNS!

Why use anything other than the most pure form of BB?
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>>180097978
I'm at the Izumo, I'm stock, and I'm using whatever flag and camo I have to shorten the suffering, but still I feel the urge to kill myself and end this pain. And Amagi wasn't much different. That's why.

At least Bisko has incredible secondaries and reliable guns, while NorCal/Iowa have that sweet bow on meme.
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Reminder that 457mm guns are 1mm short of breaking the threshold for overmatching 32mm of armor.
Reminder that the game's overmatch mechanics will stay the same even after the release of RN BB's, even though the 3mm caliber difference shouldn't mean shit, and that the mechanics will only get reworked when the Russian Tier 10 with 457mm guns gets released.
Screenshot this post.
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>>180098674
>izumo
>amagi
>suffering
Your opinion is objectively wrong.
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>>180097978
Japanese BBs get the best dispersion scaling at range and get to abuse overmatch the hardest. They're built to snipe and deal massive damage regardless of angle. The most forgiving line, perfect for new players who are too inexperienced to actually get in the fight and pick the right targets.
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>>180097978
Yamato is not worth it now that everyone else has easy mode cits. Overmatch doesn't matter when enemies just angle slightly and can turn away while showing their sides with no consequence..
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https://discord.gg/46PdbfE King of the seas invite code for ppl looking for competitive
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SCREAMING
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wow FUCK hotel a qt
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>>180101949
yamato should crush the RN BB's she can overmatch like 90% thewir hulls. And if she plunges from like 15km they should be able to be citadeled ez
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Woah these new night battles are insane
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>>180103382
>that back turret
weeb
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>>180103382
buy a new computer cuuuuuuuuck
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First EU anon that responds gets to taste my 18 cm rod for free; travel expenses are on your end though.
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>>180105857
rex1121

come fuck me silly and pretend that im white
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>>180105857
I'm on na and abrach has a small penis
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>>180097978
>KM BBs have meme hydro
>the eternal anglo will get radar
>USN BBs will never get defAA
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>>180103382
What have they fucked up in this patch?
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>>180088364
Bayern isn't fun or strong in any way whatsoever.

Bad guns that loses against any other T6 BB at range.

The guns are so bad Bayern can't even beat T6 cruisers at range. A cleveland or nurnberg or budyonny or aoba can 1v1 a bayern and tear him to shreds. Bayern has terrible DPM. 179,200 compared to 261,939 on the Fuso or 220k on the New Mex. And with such bad accuracy that it puts out half the DPM against cruisers/DDs.

Playing in ranked on PTS and I can shit all over bayern all day long in a cleveland lobbing mortar shells over terrain and getting 150 hits on bayern.

It's only the Fuso that's scary because the vastly superior firepower. When an enemy team has 4 Fuso on it, it's not as easy for cleveland to keep terrain blocking all 48 barrels of enemy guns, particularly since the Spotter planes help them aim right behind mountains from extreme distance.

You might say something retarded like Bayern should be close range brawling instead of being a failure at sniping. But Bayern Can't go close to anything because non-existent torpedo defenses, with no airplane to look around any corners Ever and no german hydro either, it's the easiest battleship to shit all over at close range.

It would have one redeeming quality if it got -60% secondary dispersion, but since it's not tier 7-10, you can't build it to actually hit anything with the bad range secondaries no matter what you do. So it is a total fucking joke of a ship.
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>>180106674
>can't even beat T6 cruisers at range.
If you can't hit cruisers at 11 km, problem is you
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>>180103293
>Yamato blows off half of Conqueror's health
>lol no problem
>*heals it*
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>>180007274
lol, excellent material and a good song
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>>180099189
Amagi strictly speaking isn't *that* bad, however it's boring, and the layout forces your positioning in really annoying ways. Bismarck is just better all around.

Izumo is a stupid fat ship with shit guns in a shit layout. It's clearly a jew trick to induce players using their shekels to skip it and get directly the best BB.
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>>180013350
there is? give link
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>>180107397
but anon, the Izumo has the same layout as the Nelson. Are you saying the Nelson is shit? Its shit either way.
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>>180106978
No, it's having 8 barrels with shit accuracy while the relevant ships get 12 with more accuracy.
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>>180105973
Sorry i don't like brownies.
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>>180107524
Nelson is actually better than Izumo: in fact it has all the guns pointing forward, meaning that the X turret won't have shit awful angles, so you'll be able to shoot a full salvo without having to angle in a dangerous way. Also, when shifting your aim from port to starboard and vice versa the X turret won't have to make an almost-full rotation, but will stay on bear along with the other two turrets.
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>>180107968
Nelson is still shit :^)
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>>180108375
Yeah, probably.
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>>180108375
if they keep it with her secondary gun magazines being part of her citadel and continue to keep her magazines and machinery so high out of the water probably. I know it's a t7 thing but 25mm of bow is going to be brutal with how little citadel armor she has on her nose

atleast they were historical with KGV's magazines being as far deep as the bongs possibly could
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>>180106978
>bayern hits cruisers at 11k (sometimes)

1. nobody needs to ever be visible within 11k of a bayern unless they're insta-deleting it with torps or have a terrain piece meaning no faggot can hit anything in a bayern because it can't lob shells vertically over terrain. Doubly so because Bayern cannot see over any terrain as it has no airplane whatsoever, unlike cruisers which can have airplanes up for 6 minutes at a time.

At 14k-17k even in open water with zero terrain, a cruiser free-kills bayern easily because 7 out of the 8 shells of a broadside will disperse to be complete misses, and the 1 other shell will usually miss, but if it hits the nose of a cruiser, it will do less damage than the cruiser's HE salvo does in return. And the cruiser gets 3-5 salvos for every one bayern salvo.

2. within 11k if it's perfectly broadside to get all 8 shots, 6 will still fly wildly sideways missing a nose-on or tail-on cruiser. The cruiser then has 30 seconds to do just as much return damage as it took then simply drive around the corner and leave the retard who picked Bayern to watch his 3 fires cook away if someone else didn't already torpedo kill him for being stupid enough to try to be "within 11k" of all the terrain for a fat slow ship without airplanes and a torpedo belt which might as well be -0% damage.

As you were stupid enough to get close to the enemy, now there's no way to prevent a destroyer from keeping bayern perma-spotted and the constant 1+ fires burning on your deck will guarantee death before bayern can very very slowly waggle its way to long distance to try and stealth up.

That's the magic of the Fuso, it doesn't need to be point blank to have any value at all, which means it can pull behind team-mates to escape fire-spammers when cooldowns are unavailable.

Please do queue up as a Bayern in ranked though, I hope as many people do as possible, because I'm running cruiser and they're comfy to shoot at, being so large and so slow and harmless.
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>>180109147
The bongs magazine protection setup in teh KGVs is actually the one part where the RN BB construction got something right.

The irony here is that the German setup with propellant above the shell rooms also proved that it could make the ship survive a magazine explosion.
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>>180109147
Didn't the nelsons have horrendous accuracy/dispersion because they used different barrels for all the guns?
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>>180110253
Genuinely curious, care to elaborate?
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>>180110327
depends on the period. they got lazy with barrel replacement or repairs in general before the war started because England was still in crippling debt after her imperial decline for centuries. The rifling in some was more worn out then others causing some issues. When they were brand new there were no complaints I have ever seen. In the game they gave her 2.0 sigma and great accuracy. I mean hell Rodney was more than 8 years overdue for a complete engine overhaul when she fought Bismark, yet she pulled 25 knots. In game they gave her 24 knots which is acceptable I guess.

KGV on the otherhand is using some kind of super charge to shoot at 836m/s instead of the 869m/s the real super charges did or her IRL 757m/s regular charges., and they gave her kinda mediocre accuracy but muh quad turrets and muh 10 guns so who knows.

after t8 they all still have 1.8 sigma so kinda meh, but Conq has 234 meter dispersion at 29km which makes no sense
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>>180110253
>>180111134
On the "propellant above the the magazine" part.
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>>180035495
You forgot to mention the spectator that refused to die was SpammisT (Haruna) and everyone who sucked Gaishu's dicked were people in Haruna's autistic secret hugbox. Almost like this whole shit was part of a scripted event.
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Smoke screens on cruisers has ruined this game even more at high tiers.

Now every battle is a sit and wait until half the map returns visible, and then stop again once everyone returns into their magic clouds.

Just had to chase a Minotaur that ran away, sat popped smoke, dropped torps, and sat in it while I sailed bow on right towards him, eating that annoying torp or even dodging them all, until I either spotted him, or the smoke wore off. Rinse and repeat a few other times until I managed to kill him.

It's the ultimate pace breaking gimmick. It makes everything either boring or frustrating, or both.
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>>180114104
Acquire adequacy and citpen the Minotaur through his smoke if he shoots at you. But it sounds like you're in a battleship and the problem has nothing to do with the inter-class balance between the two of you, but with the fact that your destroyers or cruisers were nowhere around. The ultimate pace breaking gimmick is being deleted from 15km the instant you make a single mistake in a 20 minute match. Smoke is just a consequence.
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>>180111262
I heard KGV 15 inch setup was removed; is that true?
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Finally a win. im so happy.
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>>180111282
Gneisenau took a bomb into her fore magazines, which is generally a Really Bad Thing.
The German setup of having the propellant higher up in the ship meant that when it all deflagrated the gasese lifted the turrets up out of the barbettes and could then escape.
It still killed everyone in the turrets and the fire pretty much gutted her bows, but the ship survived.

Compare this to Mutsu (which used a setup of magazines and shell rooms that was directly copied from thr RN, and propellant that was even worse than the RN's cordite)
When her rear magazine blew up in port, it literally blew the back of the ship to shreds and left the IJN to look at their exploded snail.
Or the infamous RN BCs as a whole, their cordite blew up whenever a magazine was hit.

The problem here was that the IJN and RN used propellant of higher brisance, while the KM and USN used some different things that were less likely to explode from the tiniest spark.
That is why some USN and KM ships survived hits into magazines where RN and IJN ships generally went up in flames. The USN did some tests late in teh war and basically promounced the RN's cordite completely unsafe and unsuited for shipboard use.
When they looked at what the IJN used after the war, they just shook their heads and pronounced the IJN to have had balls of steel but no common sense at all.

In fact, the IJNs propellant and shell fillers were so explosive that they even blew up after the ship had already sunk, when the pressure crushed the compartments or the ship hit the bottom.
Look at pics of the wreck of Yamato, Musashi or Kirishima. All of them blew up that way.
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>>180114363
It was late game, all DD ded, I was plugging all the holes left by my team. It was a good battle, but I admit I also was lucky; pic related (7k exp are because I'm running paint and flags to grind the C hull, base exp was 2k).

I was literally running after that single last enemy around an island. He didn't shoot a single shell while in smoke, just spammed torps.

Every once in a while I manage to nail a citpen (or even a devastating strike) on shellspamming smokesitters.

Anyway, I've noticed that even in early game, when DD and CA rush and smoke up half the map, while shutting down the other half with torps, the game tends to break down its pace just to start over once the mist clears out.

I don't hate smoke in itself, it's a great tactical tool if used properly (i.e. to pull your team out of bad situations), but rather the fact that in its current implementation it's pretty much broken: shit players have always used it as a free pass for playing like shit (popping a single smoke cloud, instead of laying it down and making a proper curtain, and sitting still in it) without consequences for them, and it was fine -I guess- as long as only a few were capable of doing that; now half of the players do it, and it's really unbearable.

Like when DD were able to shut down entire chunks of the map with such a massive amount of torps spamming that it wasn't even funny.
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So how do you get the Alabama? Or is it still in testing?
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>>180115897
Surrender your shekels.
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>operation Vigorous
>Britcucks were totally obliterated by the glorious Regia Marina
>still no italian ships in game to recreate the battle
Fucking WG.
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>>180116784
>regia marina
>glorious
They tried switching sides, and then they got bombed the fuck out.
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>>180117441
>They tried switching sides
Yet another example of american ignorance.
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>>180118123
Fine then, is surrender more acceptable to you?
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>>180117441
>Communist partisans = changing sides
Wow!
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>>180115879
Smoke should just straight up block vision for everyone unless youre using hydro or radar. Other ships and aircraft should not be able spot for ships behind or in smoke. Make it a defensive tool not an offensive one.
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>>180028291
Conqueror can't lolpen BBs. It'll lolpen CAs just fine though.
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>>180120629
To elaborate more, it should kinda be like a cyclone, where other ships spotting things can be seen on the minimap, but the model doesn't render until the smoke no longer obscures the ship (Or until you get within the auto spot distance).
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>>180116784
We literally DO have one of the Regia Marina ships that fought in that battle, genius. And the pic you posted is of a ship that didn't.
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>>180120471
>Fleet heading to Malta to join the RN is not switching sides
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>>180121082
Isn't that all that counts? ))))))
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>>180122067
>teams are 5 BBs 4 DDs 2 CAs 1 CV
Yeah, being able to pen those evil CAs will be invaluable.
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Is this true, I thought this Raptor guy was decent at the game? Why is he even allowed into Zeon?
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>>180123557
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>>180121310
Fugg, you're right, Montecuccioli fought technically against Mission Harpoon. Point is that it's considered a single battle (The Battle of Mid-June). Anyway, the Duca is a premium: I don't consider it, and beside I was referring to the entirety of the tech tree.
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>>180123557
Can yo guys limit this kind of shitposting only to ded thred hours?
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>>180123743
>implying I am a roach
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Could I get an invite to the discord?
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>>180121663
Italy had already signed the armistice and the remaining ships (many of which under construction were scuttled or captured) were technically Allied property.
The switching side meme is also incorrect; as a state, Italy splitted in half shortly after the agreement, so there wasn't a unified authority controlling the territory but rather, two governments collaborating with Allies and the Reich respectively.

So it's correct to say that Italy surrendered, which lead to the country breaking up, starting a brief albeit significant civil war.
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>>180124786
Here you go brotha
https://discord.gg/UYajY8w
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>>180103382
>>180106179
Got the same issue every few games, only lasts couple of seconds.
Seems I gotta throw it on the SSD now.
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>>180115897
You buy it when it was on sale months ago.
Maybe Christmas creates or black Friday sale?
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>>180115897
Of you are NA wait for 4th of July. If there is any day when WG will sell Alabama again it has to be this one.
If you are EU just go buy it. It should be available for gold
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Watched a fair amount of videos of two (high tier) BBs brawling. Most shots seem to penetrate (or even cit) before anyone is even giving broadside.

Is overmatching chance higher in close quarters?
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>>180123798
Roma is confirmed to be coming as a premium, and the Italian tech tree will almost certainly start next year (just because every other cruiser line is already in the game).
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>>180128590
I'd love to play Roma, but it will probably be a tier VIII premium, meaning it will cost roughly 40€ in a stupid bundle with all sort of stupid shit, like the flag on the Duca D'Aosta, which on top of everything is plain wrong.
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>BaBBy
>Want to be a CAsual
>Broaden my horizons etc
>Buy Atago because I have money and I hear good things
>Get my ass kicked but the gameplay actually feels really fun and varried
>Start to get better and have a lot more fun
Goddamn this is what I was missing this whole time
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>unload 9 18.1 in hotel penises into a roon at 3k showing full broadside
>nearly every shell at or just under the waterline
>8 overpens
>0 citadels
Why do german CAsuals think it'sd ok to have a cruiser that immune to fucking citadels
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>tfw like playing
>tfw want to div with raptor
>tfw I'm a gigantic faggot that overthinks and overanalyzes evertying
>want to ask if we could div but scared I'll just get shit on because I'm not amazing at the game
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>>180129983
Why do you want to div with the player most likely to subject you to such behaviour then?
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>>180129983
I AM A KIND AND GENEROUS SUPER UNICUM. I WILL GRANT YOU A CHERISHED SPOT IN MY DIV IF YOU ASK AND SWEAR TO DO YOUR BEST TO PAD MY STATS.
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>>180130619
I'm not good at the game you'll just make fun of me
I wanna get better tho
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>>180080975
GRAF ZEPPELIN

IS ONE THICC BIH

LET ME

SEE THAT ZEPPUSSY
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>>180080975
>Graf Zeppelin: Buchstäblich die Süßeste.
Deine Groß- und Kleinschreibung ist untermenschenhaft, so kriegst du nie ein arisches Schiffsmädel.
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>>180131329
Just short of an "AYOO" or it would've been spoken like a true neggro kaing.
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>>180131645
Too late, Graf has already been muslim'd by Rex.
She now wears hijab and carries a brown kid.
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>>180127978
Overmatch happens at any range and doesn't change.
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>>180131953
>now wears hijab and carries a brown kid
Well, there is a solution for that.
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>>180131694
>not getting the original reference
what a sad life you have over there
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Which ships have the sexiest cold-war-vibe-evoking radar and radio equipment?

I'm thinking Belfast.
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>>180135039
kuktusov because it's in cold waters fucking up my sturgeon and taking fucking a bajillion harpoon ashm's to kill
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180030513
I'm not going to dignify this response with a (You).
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>>180135039
Moskva has some neat masts
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>>180135039
Grozovoi
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Hotel_a_QT is a QT!
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>>180142556
Am I qt?
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>1000 doubloons from a super crate
nice now Atago is cheaper
should I buy Atago
I'm a babby but I've been trying cruisers more and I've been enjoying them a lot
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>>180145018
Depends, are you Hotel?
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>>180145586
Atago is one of the best cruisers in the game
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>>180145952
N-no…
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>>180146361
Should I keep practicing with ARP Takao before I commit?
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Hey guys I'm back from ~1 week of no internet. Did anything important/interesting happen?
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>Your face when citadel Nelson easy
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>>180146889
>Already has a gameplay-equivalent ship
>Should I buy this lel
How the fuck can we know any better than you how you should spend your money?
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>>180146889
literally the same ship except it can train IJN captains and can use camo
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If there's a mod to give her the Atago camo then I'm not going to buy her. Being this bright blue abomination really bothers me.
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>>180147253
>hating the blue camo
kill yourself.
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>>180147621
I like Atago's camo though. ARP Takao is just visually displeasing. It's this blue neon anime nightmare.
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>>180147837
>complains about anime
>on an anime forum
lolwut
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How many matches would you say it takes to get a good handle on a single ship? I'm about 150 matches in atago and I still feel like I'm playing it wrong.
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>>180147253

Aslains mod pack.
Now save the shekels for something else.
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>>180146906

Her armor is much stronger that other T7 BBs of equivalent caliber. That mitigates things a bit.
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Thank you, Psychology Today
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>>180146906
Tea fuckers BTFO
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>>180146906
Every BB eventually will have waterline citadel.
t. BBaby
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>>180150994
>Hotel with waterline cit
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>>180150994
>waterline citadel
gross
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>>180151215
Never, I'll see this game burn before Yamato Hotel gets a buff.
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>>180151781
Hotel also get anti-torpedo net consumable.
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>>180151781
Realistically she should get a speed buff since those ships were well capable of doing 28kn+.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/nliugx.mp4
https://my.mixtape.moe/exatlp.mp4
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>>180151781
I wanted to reply with an image of 'Hotel Yamato' from some doujin or other, but I can't find it…
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>>180116784
Yeah but then they'd have to recreate Cape Matapan for full historical accuracy.
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In the Aegis mission, are we the bad guys? We're raiding a supply convoy and stealing it.
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>>180156706
No, we're rescuing them)))))))))
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What will the DD sub-meta be for T6 Ranked?

I'm finding it hard to call - USN is a lot weaker in terms of torp armament and concealment compared to previous seasons, but it has a bigger dmg/s advantage. I suggested Hatsuharu earlier, more as a joke than anything, but I'm starting to believe my own memes. I think she has the right balance of guns, torps and stealth. I doubt KM hydro will be enough to overcome their shitty smoke, but I've never played that line.
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>>180158526
Shinomeme
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>>180158736
Maybe… she has much better damage output and fights better kiting away. Hatsuharu does have a significant concealment and manoeuvrability advantage though.
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>>180158526
farragut and anshan
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>>180158526
We shall have to wait until Flamu tells us what is best.
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Holy shit, the Kurfurst has so much empty space on deck. Put some AA guns or something, you Nazis. German engineering my ass.
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>>180164024
It's not even a real bote
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>>180164024
Needs to be balans'd against Montana.
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>>180158526
definitely not the US one, it's a totally useless piece of shit.

No real torpedoes, and the gun velocity is so bad that it loses against other destroyers and against other cruisers. It does tickle damage against battleships and can't torp them at all, so the only real benefit is the bigass american smoke.

Is slightly better smoke worth giving up railguns or german DD hydro or a 3+3+3 long range torpedo cross-drop that is tight enough they can't squeeze through any gaps?
Almost certainly no.

Stretching a line big enough for a battleship will just have him sunk by 8-9 torpedoes with nothing accomplished.
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>>180165545
Does the KM DD at t6 get 150mm guns with improved HE pen?
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>>180149184
Yeah, until it faces tier IX. Then it will be a constant citpen
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>>180167532
>is DD get CL/CA buff?
maybe you can answer that yourself :^)
Gaede's 150s are still great tho
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Why do I average 100k in khaba but my wr is 39%?
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are how C hulls on USN DDs? do they actually shoot shit down, or is it purely for defensive AA consumable?
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ded
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>>180172918
N-Not true.
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Improvements to usn cv line:

Lex gets 1/1/2
Essex gets 1/2/1
Midway gets 2/2/1
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>>180148815
I can run through a tier 8-10 in about 100 battles so if say maybe 20ish battles max. Only ships I've played longer are premiums and you really get the hang of it then.
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>>180168689
This kills the Nelsol
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>>180174916
Give Ranger 1/1/2 as well.
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>get first silver t8 bote
>t10 every game
>finally experiencing that t10 gameplay everyone talks about
>t1-7 were legitimately fun, this is hell

Tell me it gets better at t9 and 10 when you actually have the firepower or armor to impact t10 botes.
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>>180175695
T10 gets "fun" only because T8 is bad. T8 provide enough fodder to keep it mildly interesting through the heavy camping phases of T10 matches.

T7 and lower is way more fun.
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>>180174916
>2 torpedo squadrons on Midway
Oh, wow
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>>180174916
>Midway gets 2/2/1
"No."
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Quick explaination why USN CV is inferior to IJN CV?

Like, do they get shittier firepower, or less fighters?
If you put two equally-skilled CVfags against eachother, could IJN completely outbully USN?
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>>180178589
american ships are all bad now, nooblet
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>>180178589
Let's compare in loadout perspective

>Strike
IJN always have >1 fighters compared to USN.

>Balance
IJN has higher damage potential while not getting shut out by USN fighters

>AS
Same as strike.
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when is the next 35 to 1 meme converson rate event reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>180179716
Never

have a 20% discount on port slots, comrade
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>>180179716
How about we get a mikasa, 50 dubloons and one of SerBs used cumrags for the small price of 99.99$ instead?
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>>180022683
Blyskawica. I consistently do well in it, even post-nerf, but I have a sub-40% WR with it.
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>this is the leader of our clan
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>>180183697
Though he does have outstanding taste in sabers.
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>>180183697
Is Rex still annoying people to play against him in training room when he's in Yamato?
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Why everytime I start this goddamned game, the first match takes forever to load? I already tried everything the forums say, defragging my HD, etc. but it keeps happening to the point I had to buy a tier 3 ship just for playing the first match of the day. It never happens in subsequent matches. I play in EU though, is that the reason? It happened in ranked too and I wanted to throw my pc off the window.
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>>180184428
Yeah and I have no idea who he is. He appeared and created the clan out of no where.
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>>180184542
>I play in EU though, is that the reason?
Maybe, I have it too.
Coop with a t1 ship or so for first game or send a ticket and hope you get a CS agent who actually understands English.
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>>180178589
>Quick explaination why USN CV is inferior to IJN CV?
Lazy nation balancing. US gets better dive bombers at some point, and has better fighters.
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>>180170948
>do they actually shoot shit down
Only a fully aa specced Farragut. Mahan AA is a joke especially against premium cv planes.
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>>180165545
>it's a totally useless piece of shit.
Confirmed for being bad with USN dd's.
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how come the flags/camo container only ever gives type 1, 2 or 5 camos?
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Post things that make you happy.
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>>180185603
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>>180097978
>>USN BBs - AA gimmick
Only after tier 7
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>>180186026
at which point you just fight Hak/Midway in dedicated AA divs anyway
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>>180027350
I dont see how they would even be able to out braw german BB's since the high tier ships have the fewest secondaries of all the high tier bb's

brit BB's just dont seem fit for brawling
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cash money money
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>wait 5+ mins for smash
>says sure right as we match
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> third battle on a stock Kawachi
I think I get it now: AP against close-range well-armored broadsiding ships, HE all the other time.
Is "full AP on battleships" just a meme?
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>>180178589
There is no contest, at all tiers usn are inferior to ijn except for premium saipan.

Usn are actually great ships for training. If anything I highly recommend grinding through the usn line because you can learn important skills. Things like dive bomber lures etc and good strafing. Ijn cv have no limits. You can be everywhere.

Plane count doesn't matter when you just have more squads. Ijn have more of everything.


>ijn strike has at least 1 fighter while usn gets zero fighters
>ijn balanced just has more of everything
>ijn air superiority has more fighters and still gets torpedo bomberes
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>>180130619

Do not believe this bluenicums lies, he only seeks to make himself look ((((unicum))))
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>>180195762
I think your wrong, USN CV's do just fine with 1/1/1. Don't blame the ship if you'r shit.
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>>180185175
>no reply argument whatsoever
>plays one of the shittiest destroyers in game
0/10 not surprised, take your 40% win-rate elsewhere.
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>>180195762
there are two real game-breakers that make anyone playing US a complete retard (saipan p2w excluded)

- more squadrons = more SPOTTING. The japanese team not only gets more damage, but far better vision of the map, more hard-counter to enemy destroyers with a plane hovering above them and more artillery lobbing over mountains to hit battleships all the way back in spawn while the US team can't see you doing it since you're behind a mountain.

- the 2 torpedo squad cross drop is everything for allowing torps to sink submarines and cruisers instead of only being a threat to battleships. Dive bombers only tickle cruisers and destroyers in comparison currently, they have small chance of hitting for direct damage and were a destroyer or cruiser to get 1 fire, it isn't lethal, unlike 1 flooding auto-death if repair is down for any reason.

Any attempt by US to solve #2 by going 2x torpedo bomber means they fail at problem #1 as any 2x torp bomber loadout has 0-1 fighters and 0-1 dive bombers and horrid map vision and utility.
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>>180184803
o: I hadn't thought about coop, thanks for the tip! I want to send a ticket too but they might reject me because I don't live in EU (but plenty of EU dwellers have the same issues as me)
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>>180197735
let me tell you bow I know you're not a CV player.
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>>180197735
How can someone be this full of shit?
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>>180198097
Because retards don't understand how CV's work.
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>>180195152
Kawachi and Myogi are special cases because they suck. BBs should always fire AP unless against a higher tier BB or a baDDie.
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>>180200296
>He doesn't dev strike DDs with a front turret salvo of AP!
It's ok kid, you'll figure out inter-class balance some day.
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If I play on EU I guess I can't buy this from the NA shop? why does EU have the worst fucking shop of any region.

Look at EU's featured it's fucking embarrassing it's literally "heres our ships and doubloons lols"
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>>180201209
Why would you want to buy a shitty bundle like that anyway?
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>>180201474
that's a good bundle considering it's 100 flags of each even better when the fucking EU equivalent is this piece of shit
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>>180201209
blame germans, they earn big and spend big
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>>180202883
Everything on the EU shops is literally dog shit all they sell are ships and doubloons fucking hate filthy europeans make me fucking sick.
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/12TPxwL-lJ1scfP4QtqK4VIImStGzmJWKs1mYt9TPV_E/edit?usp=sharing

Join if u wanna get a ship for free
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>>180204664
6PM tomorrow would be better because not that many will sign up for it tonight.
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>>180204940
Its canceled now
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Giveaway! One lucky person will get a cool carrier, another unlucky person will get a shitty ship.

Please link IGN.
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>>180207624
hurr durr give it to me! GREGL385
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>>180207624
JakeNS
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>>180207624
Give me shitty ship

t. abrudolflincler
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>>180207624
Tioga060
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>>180207624
robotnikman
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>>180207624
The_Squid_Lord
NA
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>>180207624
> its another dickhead farming for you's and not actually giving anything away episode
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>>180202601
>Same price as 30 days of prem time
>Only good for 100 battles
>No compounding benefits
ok kid
>>
Who is the most qtest sound CC? I think iChase
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>>180208934
>Not buying 30 days premium and that to grind tier captains and ships

L M A O get out of here kid
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>>180209029
I think it's Aerroon. When he was sorting out his audio issues he mentioned that he lived alone in some shitty commieblock, so his rates are probably pretty competitive.
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>>180200898
Everyone ITT will tell you to use HE against DDs unless you can't reload fast enough, but it's fine, I need more people like you to spread the lies so I can keep yoloing BBs and surviving through overpens
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>>180207624
I like shitty ships. Hotel in particular.

t. abrach
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>>180210113
abrach is a manlet who does not have 18.1in shells

t.apparent
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>>180210198
Fuck off Tioga.
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>>180209335
Seconded. Aerroon's voice is super cute.
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>tfw no Randgris/Iron to gift me things to like his autistic attitude
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>it's a kaga shitter gets shut down by saipan episode
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>>180048902
how is this an "easy win" if they killed themselves at the same time? faptor is such a potato, he couldn't easily defeat an AP jizzing meme cruiser. Pathetic.
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>>180210712
probably because Jacky (the Hakuryu on Gaishu's team) was alive for rigging the game
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>>180209335
What do you mean with "rates"?
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>>180210712
>if they killed themselves at the same time?
Interesting hypothetical, but that's not what actually transpired.
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>>180210807
>>180210996
I don't see how keeping an spectator alive is ""rigging"" the match. Are flesh wound achievements not allowed in 1vs1 duels? Why did faptor not keep a spectator alive in his own team too?
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>>180211178
You can't get a flesh wound if the match ends before you deal the damage.

Spectators are supposed to spectate from the post-death interface, not the CV one.
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>>180211178
Because Gaishu, the nigger cheater, told Haruna to not die so he could win the game if Raptor does beat him.
The game would've ended after Gaishu died if Haruna wasn't alive.
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>>180211324
>>180211478
I see now. Shouldn't there be a rematch then?
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>>180210519
>tfw jake won't give me free shit
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>>180050450
>>180048902
Raptor confirmed literally rage face comic tier humor.
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>>180207624
F22xRaptor
NA
Carrier
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>>180211675
No, Gaishu bitched out and refused to admit defeat.

>losing to a literal retard like Raptor
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>>180211675
Not necessary. We can clearly see from the WebM that Gaishu died first and therefore lost.
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>>180212684
you sound sooooooo fucking mad kid LMAO
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>>180213456
le rage face MAGA xDD USN LE TRUMP build the wall and make the IJN pay for it xDDD jajaja
>>
XD
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>>180214038
Why are you the way that you are?
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>>180207624
Bajones NA
1 saipan = 1 bbq stream
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>>180214997
Why not just put a maga hat on me like everything else and then it will be a funny meme right?
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XD
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>want Leander for ranked
>it's cursed
fml
also: thx team
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Will we ever find true love?
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>>180218557
>>
>>180207624

I hope I win the Sims, best shitty ship they got.

IGN: Echo_Boomer
>>
>Disco fags running some 1v1 comp
>Don't mention it here
hurr why is thred ded?
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>Trying desperately all weekend to achieve 10 kdmg from flooding with the most torp heavy botes
>Land a single torp on Nagato
Fiji can be ok sometimes
>>
T2 DD Competition

No Guns/Only Torpedos
Epicenter
Ocean
No camo
No flags
1 Round
Winner take all

Come to Training Room if u wanna play
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>>180218557
XD
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Have you ever set fire to a pile of money?
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>haruna rigs a 1v1
>haruna rigs a deathmatch battle

And people suck his dick to be part of his hugbox.
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>>180224596
How did you predict it before he actually won?
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>>180225487
really gets the wheels spinning heh
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>Still no scuttling option on German ships
>>
aww gregs having a bad day *hugs greg*
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>supercontainer from consumables crate
>its a spotter airplane mod

why


on the bright side, des moines is fun as fuck
>>
>playing Alabama
>fuck it to center
>cross dropped by Midway
>just as the torp indicators are going nuts, see him and pull a shot
>just as I'm getting raked, hear the CV death sound and see I sextuple citadel-ed him for full health
theexactmomentitwasworthit.jpg
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>>180227821
put it on duca
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>>180226240
>deny someone a kraken by scuttling at the last second
This needs to be added.
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>>180228172
>not diving with a CV who does nothing but keep his planes around in order to scuttle you if the enemy team is about to kill you
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Anyone know who this guy is in the Kamikaze chorltonandthewheelies on EU? He died then decided to spend the rest of the game watching me and being a little bitch. His most played ship is Tirpitz to.

>"pussy wheres your kills"
>"this DD"
>fire my guns
>"hur dur it says zero kills for you"
>DD dies
>"Like I said that DD"

Felt good having him watching me getting angry when I sank or hit anything.
>>
The first response to post their IGN and get doubles will get my Haruna_Kai_Ni account.
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>>180230246
9mm1n
>>
How the fuck do you grind a stock CV?

I thought co-op would work, but co-op players are so retarded they legit lose to bots without you being in a normal ship to carry them.
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>>180230639
try the operations for t5 and t6
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>>180228172
>New game mode: Defense Of The Atlantic
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>>180231969
Funny thing is I just want ryujo to play operations with.
>>
http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/1000100000100010000001110000000119?sid=4255037136

Is this actually a good Atago build or am I getting meme'd on? What's the point of catapult aircraft and vigilance over, say, advanced firing training?
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>>180234084
>AFT on Atago
Now that's a hot meem
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>>180227821
I got spotter aircraft, defensive fire, and smoke generator mods all in succession.

Now I just use the containers to stockpile flags.
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>>180234423
So concealement is basically the only tier 4 skill she gets a use out of?
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>>180234601
Yes. Atago's anti-air is too shit to make good use of AFT. That catapult aircraft should be preventive maintenance though. Two planes is one of those skills everybody hyped up before the rework and then turned out to be useless.
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>>180234491
Keep trying with TYL so you get a Perth to put your smoke gen mod on))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>180234601
You could take RL if you really wanted to.

>>180235759
It's not quite useless. It's nice to have on cat fighter cruisers if you can spare a point.
>>
/ourguy/ DIRT813 is streaming, go watch for a bit he's a cool guy
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>>180236562
fuck off trump, youre stooping to shillary's level here you cocksucker
>>
>>180236686
What no? I'm Linnart you dumby, DIRT813 is just a cool guy and needs more subs
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https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/129120-boteshotel-clan/

wew lad
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>>180237204
>You do not have permission to view this content.
wew lad
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I'm tired of being shook by radar and hydro because I keep confusing or miscalculating the distances. I just can't memorize everything, but if i stay 12kkm away from all cruisers and battleships shit won't get done. Therefore, is there a spreadsheet where I can see:
>DD detection ranges (with and without CE)
>Radar and hydro duration and ranges

I know the wiki has a table on hydro and radar, but can the range and duration be modified by skills and modules? if yes, what are those values? the wiki also has detection ranges for all destroyers but not with CE, which is what I need. Pic not related.
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>>180237517
Vigilance and the detection mod add their percentages to hydro. Radar is flat.

What's hilarious is that some detect build German ships can see some torps further than their max launch range.
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>>180237704
Wait what? Vigilance stacks with Hydro? I thought that it increases the base detect range, then hydro is your ship cap detect
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>>180237204
Context?
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>>180237704
What's the detection mod?
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>>180237517
>I know the wiki has a table on hydro and radar, but can the range and duration be modified by skills and modules?
The range can't be changed. The duration may be increased by the respective super upgrades (20% and 40% respectively).

>>180237704
Neither Vigilance nor TASM1 affect the ship detection of HAS. TASM1 doesn't affect HAS at all.

>>180237812
>Vigilance stacks with Hydro?
Only for torps.

>I thought that it increases the base detect range, then hydro is your ship cap detect
?????

>>180238413
Target Acquisition Systems Modification 1
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Who would you say is the best anti-destroyer surface ship at tier 6? I'm considering Aoba.
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>>180240061
Too slow of reload, Leander wont overpen DDs and Cleve would also work with the amount of guns
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>>180240061
>6 rounds every 15 s
Not Aoba. It's more or less a toss-up between the non-RN CLs, but Nürnberg's HAS probably gives her the edge.

>>180240134
>Leander
*angles against you*
pssh… nothin personnel…
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>>180240061
Farragut
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>>180241740
>sees your flat aft
OwO what's this?
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>>180242049
Hatsuharu's butt (male) is plump as anything.
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>>180243380
oh god that's so lewd...
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>>180238875
Thanks hun
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>>180243719
y-you too
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>>180146694
I'm sorry bb can we be friends?
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>>180227841
>Midway crossdrop
>getting a cit on a midway, let alone 6

k
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>dispersion is suddenly worse at 10km then it would be at 20km
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>>180251250
Just have to git gud
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>>180251434
but of course
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>>180251453
Luck is a skill
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>>180251526
yes, that makes sense to me.
>>
>>180251559
Remember to add more luck during character creation
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>>180251612
>not dumping all your points into strength and cosplaying as a caveman
>>
>not spec'ing your DD for CHA and LUK
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>>180252206
>no luck
>bump into something and have broken bones
>pick up a mug of hot drink and the handle breaks off
>new car can't start
>bus you take catch fire
>train you take flies off the rail
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>shitty flag and 20 FTW camos while shitters get the ships

T-thanks...
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>ichase has a gf

wtf i thought he was a faggot like notser
>>
>>180254397
proofs
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>>180254530
his latest video
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>>180254710
okay link it
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>>180255107
https://youtu.be/eugNjuu1XrA
@1:20
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>>180257380
Sorry, I couldn't stand watching more than three seconds of that.

I swear, Asians are autistic and their voice is always nasally sounding. Who the fuck says "Eye Ess Pee" instead of provider? Fucking gooks.
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>>180008476
Wish eugen had something to make her not a hipper clone. Like radar instead of hydro or heal
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>>180257613
Yea, two nukes wasn't enough.
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>>180257854
Radar goes catapult fighter's slot, silly. Is perfect balans))))))))
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>>180257948
Rice Krispies have been around since 1927.
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>>180257948
>>
>>180257948
The nukes did nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icVu-acHlpU
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Haha teebs btfo
>>
De Grasse is fun, are all French Cruisers this fun?
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>>180262316
not as much as they btfo'd themselves a couple years later
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>>180263248
no, DG is the un-nerfed version of French cruisers
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>>180263269
Nelsol is shit.
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>>180263349
Will DG be useful in Ranked?
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>>180262316
>scuttled their own fleet even though the deadline had been extended

classic germany shooting themselves in the foot
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>>180257613
Then how you would you pronounce it watson?
>>
>>180262316

Scuttling is a proud German naval tradition anon

Please don't ridicule it
>>
>>180263816
Still better than the French and Italian tradition of doing nothing and then getting blown up by your allies.
>>
>>180263816
Dorsetshire sunk the Bismarck
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>>180263557
I want to gently defile that Nike.
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>>180263269
>>180263447
RODNEY
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>>180264124
>cruisers desperately broadcast cool stories to appear relevant even in real life
>I torpedoed Bismarck! Both sides! She wasn't shooting anymore and was actually sinking because her crew had opened the kingston vavlves, but I did it!
>Senpai, notice me!
I mean it's kinda cute, but come on.
>>
>>180264342
Proof that downscaling a design is not really a good idea.
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>>180263532
The only area in which she really stands out relative to other T6 cruisers is in having long-range torps with good launching angles. Aside from that, you'd be better off than Budyonny - she's even has a higher cruise speed.
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>>180263532

Use Graf Spee senpai
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>>180265728
>2 guns with BB reload time
No thanks. I'll use Perth with IFHE.
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>>180265895

>Battleships guns have battleship reload time

What, really?
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>>180266209
Battleships need to have a shorter reload with higher damage.
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>>180266425

t. handheld baBBy
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>>180228971
What an obnoxious choice of mods.
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>>180266425
making me think here anon
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>>180264496
It was Prinz's shell that blew up Hood
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>>180263886
Regia Marina won the war, remember it kiddo.
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>>180268965
Where can i find a Prinz gf?
>>
>>180268965
That's a drawn picture of a cartoon, anon. What are you trying to tell us?
>>
>>180271996
>a drawn picture of a cartoon
Is there another kind of picture of a cartoon?
>>
>>180272419
Computer generated
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>>180272419
Those laggy CGI like Arpeggio of blue steel
>>
>http://webm.land/media/6NE6.webm

Comedy fucking gold. No wonder he got kicked from Zeon.
>>
>>180274019
>w<
>>
I don't suppose anyone could give me a good vid tutorial on how to use carriers (Hosho especially) that's up to date with how carriers work?

I've 10,000 xp I need to earn for the marathon, but this is my first time using one and I don't want to bring down the entire team by being shit.
>>
>>180197735

"My highest CV is langley with a 30 percent winrate" - The post
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>>180274981
With manual drop removed at low tiers, there's really no nuance anymore. Just do a bot game to get a handle on the controls and you're set. The only thing you'll have to learn is managing the position of your ship and your planes, and turning the angle of a drop.
>>
>>180237517
Thanks for the info on hydro and radar!
I'm bumping for data in DDs with CE. Or at least, for tiers VIII-X destroyers that also get to equip the Concealment Module? I know the ones for Benson, Fletcher, Kagero and Yuugumo (5.8, 5.6, 5.4 and 5.5 with camo respectively), but I've detected many Gearings and Shimas at unconsistent distances and I very rarely get to spot German destroyers at close range to memorize their ranges. I already did the math for tiers V-VII.
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>>180263248
La Galissoniere is utter dogshit even after its buff and is currently the worst performing tier 6 cruiser except for Nurnberg. In terms of actual performance in-game, it's like Budyonny but with Cleveland's stock guns and Kongo's maneuverability.
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>>180269541
I wish I knew
>>
>use 50% credit flag
>lose x3 in a row
>take it off
>win
>put it back on again
>defeat

what exactly did WG mean by this?
>>
>>180269541
>>180280009
Try looking at Oktoberfest.
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>>180280709
Can't go outside without the fear of getting mowed down by a vehicle
>>
>>180280709
But I don't speak german well enough.
I barely speak german at all desu.
>tfwno qt Prinz gf to bully me in qt german
>>
>tfw no qt Iowa to pound me with her big stick
>>
>>180281940
>Settling for second biggest stick
Don't let your dreams be memes
>>
>>180282151
But Yamato is FUCKING DEAD
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>>
Should I buy the De Grasse? Is it even worth it?
It's my birthday I wanna compulsively treat myself
>>
>>180283808
buy it for me F22xRaptor
>>
>baBBies cry when they citadel is even an inch above the waterline
>waaah, why can the biggest battleship ever made penerate my ship's special place
>proceeds to click on a cruiser with citadel in the superstructure
>devastating strike
>waaaah why can Yamato be actually threatening and deal damage to me when I use super sikret bow on strategy
>buff BBs pls
>remove BB citadels
>also 99% torpedo damage reduction
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>>180284067
Not really they just cry when it's stupidly high for no good reason. I.E. the Iowa. At that tier the other Battleships of those nations didn't have as exposed citadels, so it's kind of annoying.
Also
>Falseflagging
>Falseflagging with a story about a BB vs a BB
dude literally everyone knows that the Yamato's weeb powered shells penetrates everything like a 12+ inch dick in a doujin and doesn't give half a shit about whatever angle you have.
>t. hyperbolic shitter
>>
>>180283808
>t6
>cruiser

no
>>
>wg gives out free bismarcks to everyone
>then they release a CV that can literally click on the bismarck to remove it
brilliant
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>take a long break from the game
>come back and dominate
>suddenly start to do fucking awful the more I play
>>
>>180287245
you got too cocky
>>
I have a great idea for a boat anime.

I call it: Breaking Boats
>>
>>180288112
Plot?
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>>180285942

>This kills the Bisko
Good fucking riddance.
>>
>>180274019
>>http://webm.land/media/6NE6.webm
tl;dw? Microsoft edge wont open webms
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>>180289237
t. DD
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>>180284067
I love this baBBies crying meme. Meanwhile most complaining and bitching and whining threads I ever see are from CV's, Cruisers, and DD's. hmmm
>>
>>180290497
>majority of complaints come from the majority of the classes
>least complaining comes from the most powerful class
My almonds are so activated right now.
>>
>>180290497
H E H I WONDER WHY

:THONKEN:
>>
>>180290497
No, it's only CAutists crying.

They got CVs nerfed to the ground, and now they're picking on BBs.
>>
>>180291958
spectacular meme kiddo xd

kys
>>
>>180292508
t. shitter CAutist
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>>180292605
You're basically a shitter if you don't think that BBs are overpowered.
This is a fact.
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>Play random match
>One guy instantly speaks up, says that we'd better give him air protection because he has no AAA in his battleship
>He does no get air protection
>Enemy carrier rapes him
>He's the only person on our team who got sunk
>Throws a hissyfit about how he told us he needs air protection
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>>180291958
>CAsuals got CVs nerfed
>posted from my untouchable doom machine with AA buffed to insane levels so I don't even need cruiser escort anymore while I whine about my gimped maneuverability which sometimes allows DDs to scratch my paint when I do somethibg retarded
>posted as I got stealthfire removed because it triggered my feelings that something can attack me and I can't snipe it back from 26km
>posted as I try to get smoke nerfed so that nothing can hide from my gaze of death
>posted as I desperately try to get radar and defAA on my Imperial Star Destroyer
>>
>>180292836
Okay so what are those cruisers that can basically melt a battleship from almost the entire map away and set four fires and as soon as the fires are out can just start three more?

btw 1 fire drains 18% of your health over the duration
>>
>>180293021
Kys CAutist.

WG made you immune to CVs and DDs, and now you want to be immune to BBs.
>>
I know it's not exclusively a CAutist thing but what about torps and the fact that flooding is so deadly that nobody even bothers mounting the flag for it because it effectively does nothing to save you.

20% less bleeding out of your femoral artery is still bleeding out like a son of a bitch.
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>>180293556
This is an issue for every class except DDs most of the time since a single torp hit could kill you outright in them. The repair system is just fucked. Flooding breaks everything, to the point where people are willing to let 2 fires rage out of control for their full duration at times on the off chance that they might get flooded. It's a death sentence. Should have stayed like how it was in the alpha days where you had a flooding meter that could sink you but the effects were far less severe.
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what if we removed fires but buffed HE to do more damage and break modules more often?
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>>180294768
remember tsushima))))))
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>>180294935
I don't actually. What was it like?
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>>180294395
>flooding meter that could sink you
Tell me more
Why did they abandon that idea for this warlock DoT tier bullshit we have now?
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>>180295417
Too complicated, must dumb down game for mouth breathers.
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>>180295048
Went about as well as can be expected of Russians handling warships.
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>>180294768
How would it differ from AP then?
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>>180297350
Not as high damage but more module breaking potential?
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>>180297090
I like the part in which russkies open fire on each other. Or when they attack fishing boats thinking those are undercover japs or something. Or when they spend a few weeks on Madagascar or some shit, being sick with dysentery.
Hell, the whole thing is comedy gold. Glorious Russian Imperial Fleet goes on adventure.
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So is it safe to assume ranked will be a DDfest?
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>>180298170
>not having a Perth

>>180295048
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>>180293035
18% if you let it burn for the full 60 seconds. Even letting it burn 30 seconds makes it do a tiny 9% health, which can still be entirely repaired by the heal-button.

DCM2 module or BoS captain skill each knocks it to 15.3% if a full 48s is allowed to burn.

Yankee flag alone knocks it to 14.4% maximum.

Combine Yankee with either of the above for 12.24% of base health or less if repaired earlier.

Combine all three for 10.404% of base health, which is fully repairable.
Each battleship's 4-5 heals will recover 14% HP and every bit of fire damage for 70% repaired total.

For the battleship to lose 170% of his HP at 0.3% per second, it'll take 577 seconds straight of burning (nearly 10 minutes)

That's not including the extinguishing every 80s that lasts 20s of complete fire-immunity on a US battleship, 10s on jap, 5s on brit, 15s on everyone else.

Fires without the direct damage of IHFE are a joke, unlike Flooding which is too high DPS to out-heal.
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>>180298486
Is Leander a strictly worse ship than her prem version? I'm grinding through the UK cruiser line right now.
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>>180298170
Smoke will be useful since there's no radar, but the Farragut will be good for absolutely nothing else. Majority of tier 6 DDs have some mixture of bad guns, torps, and concealment. They really aren't ideal besides the fact that someone has to cap. CAs and BBs will be more relevant than they are at tier 7 and 8.
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>>180298683
>entirely repaired by the heal-button
See here's the part of this formula that you're missing. Fire damage is 100% repairable, but what can be repaired gets shaved down fast from other sources of damage. So the "100%" repairable fact barely even matters. It's just a cheap way to drain health from a distance that's incredibly hard to mitigate and come back from unless you're blue lining and staying away from combat as much as possible. Which is -why- so many BBs blueline.
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>>180298683
Brits get 15 s DCP action time.

>>180298816
No, she has heal and a less situational smoke generator.
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>>180254157
You could have gotten the shitty flag and nothing else.
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>>180299437
Just heal yourself another time, the damage from the fire will be repaired with the next heal.

If you think cruisers deal so much damage from a distance, try not being at such a long distance from them. In fact, be at the fucking center of the map, force the enemy cruisers to the map edge because they literally cannot survive anywhere near you and win by owning all caps.

Wow, that was hard, I must be some sort of strategy genius to have figured that out.
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>>180301815
this is bait
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>>180298683
>unlike Flooding which is too high DPS to out-heal.
Wait until Brit BB with Uber heal.)))))
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Is WTR not loading because their servers suck or because it's on WG's side?
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>>180303178
What is this abomination of a ship?
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>>180303358
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>>180303178
thing looks fucking gross.dark brown haired brown eyed german shitcunts are basically subhuman lel
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>>180303358
How the fuck do you not know a Hipper
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>>180305541
Why are RN cucks so buttravaged?
Is it because they got btfo by germans and lost the war?
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>>180303178
At least she's upright, unlike her sister. But fuck, someone clean that shit up
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>>180309616
Prinz is best
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>>180287245
sauce on gif?
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>>180310282
It doesn't matter how good you are if you're face into the mud with your ass poking out the water
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>>180262316
Will we ever get WW1 mode?
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>>180311309
It's called 'Tier 4'.
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>>180280709
>wanting a degenerate as slut from Oktoberfest as qt3.14 gf
>any year
"no"
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>>180312250
I just want someone to touch me naughty bits…
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>>180312430
a-am I g-good enough?
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>you will never get to do some erotic wrestling with the men of /wowsg/ in a pool of oil

Why live
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What reason is there to ever really play above tier seven?

>Best matchmaking
>fun silver and premium botes
>the last tier before the dreaded tier 10 "passive" meta
>firepower creep hasn't hit you yet so getting deleted is less common
>rumor is that clanwars will be t8

Not much reason to advance. Grinding after t7 is just a headache.
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>tfw want to get higher tier boats
>tfw don't want to grind
what do I do
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>>180316243
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>>180316552
Okay money yeah I get that but it's not like WG has an option to just let me buy the Des Moines or something
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>>180317120
Might I interest you in some converted free XP? A premium ship would be great for working up the numbers you would need!
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>>180317120
Not with that attitude. Make an account on the Chinese server and they'll do exactly that.
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>>180317349
>tfw 490,000 xp away from Yamato
>only have 100,000 saved up
>I can't bring myself to grind Amagi knowing what's ahead on the Izumo
>Motivation dies almost instantly
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>>180317751
Just enjoy Amagi for what she is - a very nice ship. Take your grinds one daily at a time and enjoy your other ships along the way.
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>>180315778
tier 7 is among the worst matchmaking there is.
66% of my games are T8-T9 matches where the 7s are worse in every single way.

Tier 9 is significantly better matchmaking, it can only ever be +1, and ships like Fletcher are just as powerful as tier 10s, but able to get juicy rape on T7s.

And tier 10 gets obligatory best matchmaking possible: +0 tier matchmaking where it's top tier every game ever.

Higher tier also gives better rewards. Missouri makes infinite credits and trains captains faster than a scharnhorst or hood as well.

Get rid of the 3 tiers being put in the same match and it'd fix every complaint. 5s wouldn't ever get butt-raped by 7s. 6s wouldn't ever get butt-fucked by 8s. 7s wouldn't get anus-dangled by 9s. 8s wouldn't get sister-twistered by 10s.
Literally no downside whatsoever.
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>>180319514
>Get rid of the 3 tiers being put in the same match and it'd fix every complaint.
They did that: it's called Ranked and it gets old quick when you endlessly face the same ships over and over again.
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>>180319815
that's your absolute retard opinion.

Anyone who isn't a cockgobbling autistic faggot would rather have a good match involving 50 types of ships than a worthless 3-spread match involving 200 types of ships.

You want to see tier 6 ships? Queue as a tier 5, or a tier 6, or a tier 7. You "bored" from autism and need to see tier 10 ships? Queue as tier 9 or as tier 10. VERY COMPLEX.
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>>180299497
Nope, brits are exactly 5 seconds, though it gets a 60s cooldown instead of 80s.
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Consumables#Damage_Control_Party
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>>180319815
>it gets old quick when you endlessly face the same ships over and over again.
It gets old quick because everyone plays as conservatively as possible and people are ready to explode over the slightest shit due to their workload doubling if one of their teammates makes a mistake. Ranked is an amazing place to level though since you're never subjected to uptiering and it gives you something else to focus on than stars.
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>Want the Atago
>Have the ARP Takao
>Only difference is that Atago is premium and isn't a bright glowing blue neon nightmare
Help I'm retarded
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>>180320478
>Posting evidence that contradicts you claim
ayy lamo

>>180321404
Atago can equip, so she's the better ship.
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>>180321524
*equip camo
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>>180321404
You can train captains on Atago.
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>>180321404
You can turn the neon blue skin off, you know.
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>>180325989
yeah but then it doesn't have camo and just looks boring
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>>180004451
First match with Minotaur.
Seems to be pretty fun.
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cuties
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>>180328415
>Pink
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Honestly, if you are top of your team you shouldn't take a credit and XP penalty for losing.
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>>180307781
Did they sell her to the chinese or something? I refuse to believe that the germans would let anything fall into such disrepair.
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>>180330523
why not? subhumans can't take care of their boats, it's not like this is a surprise
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>>180329427
>ass covered in seamen
Gross
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how the FUCK do people have 9km sonar????
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>>180332368
>9km
>Sonar
Think you ran into radar instead. or did you ran into a USS Black
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>>180332368
Serves you right you ninja cunt
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>Gaede has work handling that the same tier BB
Why is this allowed?
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10
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>botes is ded
it's all over
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>>180340658
Time to install Steel Ocean.
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>>180340658
>Harekaze soon
>T6 ranked soon
Botes may be dead, but boats are stronger than ever. Only problem is I can't do both at once.
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How OP is Belfast
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>>180342876
If this game had a dictionary, Bellfast would be pictured next to pay2win.
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What makes it so pay2win?
I want to transition from other ship classes to cruisers and I'd like something with training wheels
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>>180343035
>Smoke
>Radar at Tier 7
>British AP
>HE
You don't get repair or torps but you don't need it.
Kutuzov is also good as well as Atago and De Grasse. All cruisers that are unnerfed versions of tree ships.
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>>180343218
Is British AP good? I haven't really touched their line
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>>180343218
It doesn't get British AP, though? It, like Perth, gets normal AP. That said, radar + sonar + HE will fuck up any DD good.
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>>180343371
Best AP in the game. Can overmatch Yamato.
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>>180343218
>>180343724
legit I just want a ship that'll make my WR go up because every time I see it, it depresses me and makes me feel like everything I do on here is a waste of time because no matter how much effort I just don't seem to get better.
My best ship is the warspite and I have a 75% winrate on it, second best is probably new mex with a 64%
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>>180344465
Quit being bad.
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>>180344465
Play the game for fun and stop thinking about stats, they don't matter.
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>>180344465
Play with /wowsg/.
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>>180344465
Please don't be one of those people who cares about stats. They are the worst people in these threads and the most unfun to play with.
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Where's the latest Stat-kun stats? ;_;
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>>180349119
Stats-kun is dead anon.
May the motherfucker find peace.
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>fire at waterline broadside montana at 3km in north carolina
>7 overpens
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>>180350715
Your shells bounced off the top of his armored deck.
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>>180351867
>deck
>waterline
>3km
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I WANT MY BRITISH BATTLESHIPS NOW
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>>180353632
6.7
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>>180353749
proofs
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>>180351995
The armored deck is not the deck, anon.

Do you even understand the very basics of this game?
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>>180354208
I do, I just don't understand why the top of his armored deck would be so low when i've never had trouble blowing away montanas up close before.
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>>180354251
rng retard
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>>180354208
To be fair it's not called armored deck ingame, perhaps change your terminology to something everyone else and the game uses.
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>>180332527
Black got nerfed to the ground.

>7.49km
>20s
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>WoT, WoWP, and WoWS have shared premium
>WoT and WoWP have shared premium currency
>but we can't transfer gold to doubloons because of reasons
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>>180354882
Because the economies are different. Ships cost millions while tanks cost thousands. They're working on a conversion that's fair and balanced.
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>>180355089
Bullshit. Economies are different, yes, but not by much. In WoWS ships' purchase prices are roughly three times the ones you have in WoT for tanks. The conversion is way easier than you make it seem, especially considering WG has all the statistical data to work on.
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>>180354572
Well, I don't know, what do you propose we should call the main horizontal armored part of the ship?

I mean, nonretards would call it the armored deck, but you seem to have some special way of naming things so please do share.
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>>180355542
>nonretards
stopped reading, please resubmit your essay.
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>>180355542
The top portion of the ship where the guns rest on is called the Deck, the portion in which anon did not shoot. The armor belt is right below it, which anon did not shoot, the second, thicker 409mm armor belt is which anon probably shot, below that is the citadel armor belt, which anon probably missed, there is another citadel belt underneath that, then the torpedo bulge.
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>>180224596
What's up with SpammisT/Haruna suddenly coming out of the hugbox and cheating?
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>>180356535
>more than two thousand battles across several accounts
>anons on /wowsg/ has seen him play against himself during dead hours on NA

What did you expect he would do?
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>>180355910
>The top portion of the ship where the guns rest on is called the Deck
>The top portion of the ship
is called teh superstructure

>portion of the ship where the guns rest on
is called barbette

> the Deck
Is the flat surface, and all the levels above and below, including the top armor of the citadel. That part is called 'armored deck.

tl;dr, learn how to call parts.
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>>180357658
>The top portion of the ship
>where the guns rest
read
>barbette
>Is the flat surface, and all the levels above and below, including the top armor of the citadel. That part is called 'armored deck.
>perhaps change your terminology to something everyone else and the game uses.
this is about what the game names it, nobody cares about your version or the historically correct)) namings of them, deal with it.
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>>180357658
>all levels above and below
How am I supposed to single out a portion of the citadel and armor belt when there are multiple different parts with different amounts of armor on them?
Perhaps we should just see what the game calls them...
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Pretty new guy here:
1: Is there any point to ranked or team battles, other than epeen? As in do they give better rewards or anything like that?
2: Is there any point in going out of my way for the great marinas turkey shoot flag? What does it do?
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>>180358924
>Perhaps we should just see what the game calls them...
Show us then. This is an imageboard, afterall.
If you use the image function to actually just show us an image of whatever you are talking about instead of posting maymays and arguing about stupid shit, we could talk about the game, why it sucks and how teh jews/slavs/germans/brits/weebs/burgers etc. are the source of all evil.
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>>180360890
1) The rewards are not all that great, but they're something I guess. Play mostly for e-peen, and for collecting Rank 1 flags in order to eventually unlock the special premiums (I think it was achieving rank 1 for 3 seasons to get a Flint, 5 or 6 seasons to get a Black).

2) Doesn't do anything. Flags don't give out bonuses, other than the Alpha Tester and Military Contributor flag (which you can't get anymore) or the ranked progress flags (which are only available while the season is open). Flags are just there to look pretty.
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>>180362195
Why are you contradicting yourself, fucking dumbass?

>Hurr Ranked Flags don't give anything, Hurr actually they do
>Hurr Ranked don't give rewards, Hurr actually they do but it's not great because I'm a shitter
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>>180362439
>t. butthurt 50% who grinded 1000 battles to get rank 1
It's so funny how you get all defensive about your precious rank 1s when the mod is not even about skill.
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>>180362849
>t. butthurt 50% who grinded 1000 battles to get rank 1

That's funny, because that's you. Why else would you spread misinformation about a game mode with good rewards.
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>>180362439
>muh rank 1
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>>180362849
>>180363113
It's another episode of "unicums with inflated winrate sperging over ranked because it would take them over 1000 battles to get rank 1 for the rewards because they can't carry themselves in solo battles".
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>>180363357
Reminder that if you claim to be an unicum but have never gotten to rank 1 you sit upon a throne of lies.
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>>180362439


The rewards for grinding through rank 1 aren't all that great. A bunch of useless modules for grinding through the last ranks, flags you can get anyway from containers and playing randoms, and a paltry amount of gold. They are something, but not anything to fawn over.

The ranked ships are long term stuff and not even worth grinding through 100+ battles each season.
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>>180363504
>a flag that reduces repair costs by 30%
>more than 350 flags of exp, free exp, commander exp flags
>hundreds of 100% exp camos

Yeah, fuck ranked. Who needs any of this when I can just be a good goy and purchase it when it's available and beg for divisions to carry me. Feels good being a shitter. I can't believe people would play ranked and get that many rewards when they can use real money to purchase digital goods. You can't even invite people in the ranked mode, how will I get carried? See, it's pure shit. Fuck ranked game mode.
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>>180363497
There are no shipgirls. It's only cartoons, drawn by subhuman trash, for subhuman trash.
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>>180363504
>Your shipgirl is dead.
At least the ship itself is fine.
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>>180364337
meant to quote: >>180363497
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>>180364072
Why are you so mean?
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>>180345025
Tried, I keep reading up or watching videos or asking for advice, and I actively think to put what I've learned into practice, and often still get stomped.
>>180348440
I want to do that but as soon as I saw my winrate I just feel like it's this constant badge of shame
>>180348497
>Play with /wowsg/
They're exactly the reason I started caring about stats in the first place. I'm in the discord and I see people's stats get thrown around as points to make fun of them for.

Back when Overwatch came out and nobody gave a shit about stats I played with the people over in that thread and I had a blast, but as soon as ranked got introduced and a heavier focus on stats, it was harder to have fun because everyone was being so serious. While it was a year ago I've found that I really enjoy playing with people on 4chan, they just tend to be a bit goofier and more relaxed at times, and that's up my alley. Though on the other side of this, I legitimately have anxiety. I really want to play a game I enjoy with people who I'll enjoy playing with, but the stat thing is enough to make me cease up and not want to do it because I'm scared of having my god awful rate paraded around and used some something to invalidate anything I say.
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>>180367385
>I see people's stats get thrown around as points to make fun of them for.
This is because some of those people have zero redeeming value beyond their stats. So long as you aren't an insufferable autist people won't care if you're only average. Caring too much about stats is a surefire way to burn out on the game since most of your matches will feel disappointing.
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>>180367385
I don't even know what my winrate is, though I bet it's probably in the 30% to 40% area.

Ask me how many fucks I give.
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>>180367385
Babe it's very possible that in 15, 20, 30 years, this game won't even exist anymore. As long as you have fun and do your best helping your team stuff like winrate is irrelevant. And if people do use your stats to make fun of you then they're not very bright people to start with.
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>>180368192
The game won't exist in 5 years.

Caring about stats and having a "winning" mentality is normal, you're just severely autistic and can't grasp that fact around your delusional head.

Spending money on a sinking game by a Russian company is what not so bright people do.
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>>180368295
>Caring about stats is normal
>in a game that won't exist in 5 years

Also you're implying that having fun and having a winning mentality are incompatible, which is false. You can have fun, want to win, and want to improve without caring about stats. If you focus on improvement your stats will naturally increase without stressing about every percentage.

Yes, if you get good enough you will be able to turn the tide and dominate the match, but as it is right now most people can't or won't do that and lashing at them for being shitty won't help. If anything I have had experiences with potato teammates who purposefully lose after being insulted in chat.
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>>180369689
Keep raising the goalposts, autist.

You said caring about winning is pointless which implies you're saying losing is the only way of having fun.

Winning CONTRIBUTES to better statistics, you fucking moron.
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>>180369781
You are completely misunderstanding what I said.
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>>180370182
I'm not.
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Today is the day I will scuttle all my botes.
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HE HAS SPOKEN!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBgUnSA2pTo
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>>180370219
Where do you see yourself in 10 years? jw
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>>180371104
Arguing with idiots, i.e. you
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>>180370901
>today I will tell you that you should use ships everyone already knows you should use
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>>180371429
fuck you he is smarter than you.
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>>180371335
>>180371335
>>180371335
>>180371335

New thread
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>>180371429
you'd be surprised how retarded 90% of the playerbase is

funnily enough most good players will look at these videos and try to develop ways to counter the "recommended ships"
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