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Previous >>179848481

only pure goddesses allowed - Edition

>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628


>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1008

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=994
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=974

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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>>179959274
First for Vakarine is hagural breeding sow.
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>>179959507
>No Hauberk fucking Harugals into Vakarine doujin

why live
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Second for I'm considering quitting and committing suicide. Please convince me to do it.
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>>179959724
please don't do it. take measures to do something enjoyable and nice to yourself each day, the sort of things you'd miss if you weren't around anymore.
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wtf I love the 260 now
better than artillonium


thanks for the multipliers, kim
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>>179960007
>260
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>>179959968
If only I had something I enjoyed or the money to do something nice for myself. I don't want to feed the jews with my life force anymore, the student loan debt is crushing me.
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With the latest patch, guilds with neutrality disabled can now hire guardians to protect their towers
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>>179959724
You would make me very happy if you did that so you probably wont
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>>179960160

they should make that guilds with neutrality disabled could not create practo raids
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>>179960162
You do know that you can go to jail for encouraging someone to be an hero, right?
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>>179959724
You probably should move to a better country.
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>>179959692
they would make vakarine tonguing hogma assholes before they do anything else. why do tos doujin creators have the worst taste
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>>179960550
Because they're the kind of people who'd be interested in a Korean MMO
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>>179960140
flee to another country or claim bankruptcy, i'm not sure specifics but i'm sure there are methods to weasel out of student debt. you can do nice things for yourself without money too. the easiest one is to go outside and enjoy nature

dont play suduko, it is not a cute game like tos
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>>179960490
b-but muh freedom
>>179960482
There's actually a site that's all about encouraging people to kill themselves. It's for some retarded environmental bullshit though. I forgot what it's called.
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Which skills do I put in for hop3 going dgn1 and lancer?
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>>179960708
Sadly you can't even escape student loans with death in America, it just gets pushed onto your relatives.

>>179960723
>VHEMT
Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

>Church of Euthanasia
"Kill yourself; save the planet"
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>>179960945
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111444..1f2e3f71
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>>179961428
>no spear throw
>no thrusting
>so much points on a bad skill aka pierce

AYLMAO

My spear throw does easy 30~40k on 3 crits considering I still don't have an uber spear and it's spammable if you say it's shit I will fight you.
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>>179961901
It's shit. My Pierce does 100k on bosses even if it doesn't crit, and I'm using a level 170 1h spear.
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>>179961901
>no thrusting
Why would you thrust as a lancer?
>no spear throw
Dragoons have their own throw.
>bad skill aka pierce
kys
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>>179962193
That one I give you, I totally forgot synchro doesn't work with 2 hand.

Gae bulg is not Spear Throw wtf are you talking about? You can have both nobody is stopping you.

>>179962141
on a 30 sec cooldown? Please spear throw 30~40 easy and then you can 5 heat with 10 sec cooldown

Yeah no.
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>>179961901
>using spear throw when gay bulge
>thrusting as lancer
>pierce
>bad
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>>179962438
You're not taking into account the amount of time you spend throwing your spear 5 times every 10 seconds. You can do way more damage with literally any other ability.
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>>179960140
If you don't live in a third world country, just get a technical education or certificate for trades in demand in your state.

I used to be depressed as fuck amd anxious about everything while going to a 4 year college.
I told my parents to fuck off and left to fend for myself with a wageslave job. I can do everything I want now because I also live alone (which I don't mind one bit) and can finally live for myself. Don't try to live life to your parents standards or what society expects from you, theres a huge disconnect between academic expectations in society to reality and there is no reason for you to keep being a good goy and buying into their interest programs.


Just b urself, literally, fuck everyone else.
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>>179963625
Do normal clothes as costumes bother anyone else in this game? It just clashes so much with the aesthetic, I wish we had more C3 or alternate dyes for class costumes instead of all the animu pandering garbage.
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>>179963821
Same
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>tfw the most fun looking classes are the ping reliant ones
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>>179964149
>have to worry about ping
Next time don't play ping relevant game on servers too far away from you because memes like "X is dead, play on Y -/vg/"
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>>179963821
It's a faggy Korean MMO, they always try to bring in weeb westerners with ugly clashing shit.
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>>179963821
As long as my character fits, I don't mind.
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>>179964438
I want to have sex with my character.
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can i get a F for shield lob being nerfed to shit
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>>179964548
Get banned again as soon a possible autist piece of shit
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>>179964513
Me too.

The true way to make your MMO characters.
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>>179964548

where is your bf dragxandra?
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>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5t2xhujvdi/
Why is this a shit build?
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>>179964739
>tosbase
Not clicking that
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>>179964739
Shit nigga, why isn't it? There's nothing good about it.
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>>179964726
(you)
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>>179964739
>why is it shit
Because it's mainstream and were 4chan dammit, we hate popular stuff and shit on people that are just trying to be helpful while having a thumb up our asses on top of our glass throne.

Forgot Weaponized Autismâ„¢
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>>179964973
Hey there Lord Knight, welcome
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>>179964695
>tfw made a boy but now I want to turn him into a girl because I'm going Oracle
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>>179964973
Whoa, check this guy out.

Ignore shitposting and if you can give feedback then do so, if not then too bad. Not everyone has the answers to every class and build question in this game, there's too much to know.
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>>179964739
Too long, unreal endgame gear, literally NEET status or Arabian Prince tier RMTing.
Reminds me of my thorough LK RO Pserver guide I made back in 2009, except I actually knew my shit and didn't sham up a build like this fucker who hasn't even gotten to rank 8.
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>>179964739
>investing in CON and DEX as Dragoon
>not taking Sw3
>taking Doppel1
>using 1h spears
>green gems instead of red when not even Finestra15 will get you to 51%
probably there is more
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>>179965602
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>>179964739
>>179965702
Ah right, he reccomend Solmiki Plate instead of Leather
If you Doppel or Dragoon or just physical DPS in general you take Solmiki Leather. period
Hell, half of the solmiki leather is BiS for Elememe too
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>50%+ crit rate = get dex
>49%- crit rate = don't get dex
did i get this right
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>>179966370
If you are any swordman and don't want to get lv 8+ green gems in your 16+ stage5 orange weapon 6/7+ Solmiki Leather= STR+red gems
If you are a swordman which build require some +attackspeed(Fencer or Corsair)= 200 DEX rest STR

Archers 50%+ crit rate go STR if not attackspeed+yellow gems
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>>179966538
didn't expect to finally get a good and clear answer after all that misinfo wars before
thanks a lot, I'll keep all that in mind
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>>179966947
The problem is Swordman after balance changes just can't easy achieve that "50% meme"
315 Leather HG set
Regard Horn Pike
Finestra15
3x lv7 green gems
All this gear can get a Dragoon around 44% crit rate, you can do the math yourself
And Dragoon can have Finestra15 + 200 crit rate,any other swordman needs even more P2W Abbrasives
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>>179965702
Why is taking Sw3 better than taking Dop1?
Is it the Sw3 skill distribution in this build instead?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/idpr6mi6z9/
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>>179967493
>tosbase
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>>179967493
not clicking that
>Pain Barrier15
>Gung Ho15
>Double fucking Slash
>better Concentrate if you want
Do you even have to ask?
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>>179967493
Dop 1 gives you Punish5, DoV5, Cyclone5. These are not bad skill but nothing to write home about really.
Sodman 3 gives you Gung Ho 15, Pain Barrier 15, and Double "I am your best damage skill till R8" Slash 5. These skills are really, really good. Your build will not magically become SHIT if you prefer doppel 1 over swordsman 3 but sw3 is an undeniably stronger choice.
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>Link steam account to TOS website for support
>Russian IP tries to connect to my steam account
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>>179967493
Go to tosbase to use the simulator
Don't go to tosbase for builds
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>>179967719
I kinda do famalam. What does a Sw3 usually look like?
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>>179967719
>>179967924
My bad, disregard. Misunderstood your post.
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>>179967858
>>179967493
Oh and one more thing. Swordsman 3 gets the Pain Barrier: Duration attribute.
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If you need AoE damage... is Murmillo total shit?
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>>179968280
There's like 3 AoE classes in this game worth playing.
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Is the Crystal Collection in the game?
If yes, where can I find it?
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>>179968280
>AoE
>swordie
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>>179968280
Swordsmen are shit AoE in general. I think spearcucks are best AoE swordies because muh finestra attribute and muh paiku +AoE rating.
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>>179902937

Why you lying boy
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are there any good ToS youtubers who talk about upcoming shit, meta builds, strats, or just whatever

i cna only find espanol shit and people who are too shy to talk so they type and record instead
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>>179968517
>He actually went and tried to wardec a guild when most of their members are offline
Poor idiot
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>>179967641
>People knocking tosbase
>when all throughout beta and early release, every faggot in here had there own build they published and wanted feedback from

This whole "plebbit mainstream lel" meme needs to die
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do i miss anything from skipping main story or can i just use my new player boosts to plvl up in dungeons faster
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>>179968623
>putting effort in a youtube channel for a game that literally has less than 10k players worldwide, even less english speaking
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>>179968713
It's just an inferior site. Plain and simple.
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>>179968713
People knock tosbase because a much better alternative was created. People wouldn't have used it during the beta if tosgbase was around.
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>>179968749
its not that uncommon, people do it all the time for weeb games
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>>179968953
>better
>doesn't even show attributes on the planner
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>>179968623
Usually you can find people who regularly make videos and test things in the respective class threads on the forum. A lot of people don't rename their vids either so it's difficult to just search on youtube.

>>179968713
Tosbase was somewhat useful back then, when most people barely knew anything. Now it's full of so much outdated information and pure theorycrafters that the majority of "builds" will just fuck over people looking there.

>>179968737
The story's nice! But you can just look at the Extra Stat Points pastebin in the op if you don't care about lore.
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>>179968623

The most I've ever found was some guy streaming playing a cryo3pyro3 and I noped the fuck out of there.
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>>179968749
Munbalance does one for Ragnarok and he specifically is a YouTube from the current more official than official private server NovaRO.

Too bad he is a completely logical and sane person who thinks ToS is shit.
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>179968713
Nobody can be so stupid as to fail to understand that everything on tosbase is obsolete after all the changes. The only explanation is you don't play the game and you just came here to troll.
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>>179968980
I'd do it, but the only way to get information is to know Korean and play kToS.
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>tfw have to cross-reference drop data from neet, tosbase, toscamp and korean wiki
baka
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RIP FP Tower
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>>179970241
>Anon can't read
Also look at this retard
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>>179970808
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>>179970910
They both have dicks
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>>179970986
thats the shit i do like
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>>179970986
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>>179971042
gay
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>>179971107
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>Log in
>Aw shit these are expiring
>Suddenly 14 hours left
???

Also seems like they stealth patched the Invitation reward bug, that's nice.
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>>179971901
>14s on the tokens

AYLMAO

Btw is that in kToS or iToS?
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I don't get why people got C1 Drag then C1 Lancer. All the important attributes come up at C2 Drag. It makes the Dragoon skills not fully be utilized with them just being pure dps skills with no added effects.
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>>179972275
iToS, I wasn't part of the groups either I just haven't been able to use them all up. And now my penguin keeps giving me more that get used up before the old ones.
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>>179972451
Put the ones that aren't going to expire soon into personal storage and use the ones that are about to expire.
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>>179970808
Do you think oracles can turn people into dickgirls?
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>>179972345
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/114010
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What's the best chronomancer build?

wiz1cryo3chrono3sage1?

Should I dump everything into con or do a split with int?
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>>179972760
They say if you crash during gender change you'll be one
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>>179972498
The 14 days ones can't go in any storage.
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>>179972943
Yes.
Full CON. Shield+rod.
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>>179972345
What are the alternatives?
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>>179973057
I was also thinking about wiz1-cryo1-linker3-chrono3. Wouldn't this be even better? Linker sounds so appealing.
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>>179973169
Might as well go wiz2 or pyro1 instead of cryo1. It doesn't offer much in my opinion.
ChronoLinker is a thing, but you must go wiz-X-linker-linker-chrono-chrono-chrono-linker with it (to get Pass ASAP). Still full CON.
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>>179973049
*alt+f4s*
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What stat should Inquisitors dump in to?
STR? CON? DEX?
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>>179973049
And how do you know this?
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>>179973462
SPR because you are a chap.
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What's the best recipe for crafting achievement? I really want that dye
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>>179973365

I see. I was thinking about cryo due to freezing shit for survivability and all. But anyway, if you had to choose between my two proposed builds (linker-chrono vs cryo3chrono3sage1), which one would you choose and why? I'm having a hard time deciding lol.
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>>179974126
If you're a pardoner or alchemist, craft potions and scrolls.
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>>179974126
Zalia Leather Boots, recipes are from Blacksmiths and only takes 2 Corpse Hands each.
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>>179974126
If you're Fletcher or Alchemist, the related class crafts are the best. If not, see >>179974227
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>>179974178
>>179974227
>>179974374
Thx guys, I don't have Alch/PD so I'll go with Zalia then
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>>179973765
>SPR Meme
But seriously, need some guide STAT outlines
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>>179974613
What realm? Maybe I can give you a(couple of) hand(s).
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>>179974838
Telsiai, and its price has raised to 10k/pc for some reason
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>>179974162
I already have a CryoChrono, anon. It is easier to play with random groups and it just werks. I'm not saying Linker is inferior to Cryo, you just don't create a ChronoLinker to play for fun, you create it to work. You create it for a HG farming group or your ET static etc.
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>>179975114
They're not that hard to farm, just go to Tenet 2F
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>>179975114
High demand probably. But you can try for blue hair instead! You just need to finish some mercenery missions for groups!
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>>179975225
This is easier to do if the party leader hasn't done the story missions. Apparently they unlock NPCs for the party quests and most of the new quests are annoying as fuck. There are 3 or 4 pretty short quests that you can get if you haven't done any story missions.
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>>179960410
Why?
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>>179900779
Please help me decide between my necro builds!
I want a fun build for when I'm actually using the character
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>>179977329
>when I'm actually using the character
No you won't
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>>179977329
>actually using a necro
don't make me laugh please
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For cards that proc with [Number of cards] rate, does leveling them count as another 1%? It doesn't increase the duration of the proc, so I'm not sure what the point of leveling them atm is.
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>>179977809
>does leveling them count as another 1%?
No.
> so I'm not sure what the point of leveling them atm is.
None.
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How do you guys deal with camping necro? use SR to shoo them away?
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>>179977664
>>179977772
more like every time I'm doing my dailies there are necros every time and some of them make the runs really easy and some of them make it really painful.
I want to choose between the non-painful builds from my experience, but also make it fun for me.
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>>179977982
Oracle to Change hostile mobs and pray for a PK
Cryo to shove them to the edge of the map with Ice Wall displacement
Channel crash hacks
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>>179977982
Are you trying to fucking farm at bees?
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>>179977982
Use Fire Lord to roast the entire map.
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>>179978280
Demon prison, I just want to farm some gem
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>>179978375
Go to timerys
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Thanks rank resets!
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>>179978471
What's the problem?
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>>179978526
Nothing, I'm just really glad that sp pots aren't 1300 each anymore.
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What ya'll jamming to for your grind?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJYe0PdCiFA
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>>179978701
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=INNOVA%3ANATION
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>>179979215
fuck, wrong link
https://youtu.be/yPDN5SGExZc?list=PLw_JDh2YAA9yLZ3MpeqUgfJrQSUTz9eKo
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>>179978701
HG farming listening to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4S6dNvHBYI
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>>179980003
are u a highlander, nerd?
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Where are my fucking Mourning Birdtails game? REEEEE. Do getting any DPK drop reset it's whole pool?
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>>179980971
>Do getting any DPK drop reset it's whole pool
Every item has its own dpk count.
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>>179977982
are you in klai? if you are, post the position of the necro and I'll remove it
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The only good builds on tosbase are from Valkoria. Prove me wrong. Literally one of us spoonfeeding new player.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/users/24013/
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>>179981805
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7mgg0j895r/
>cyclone 15
into the trash it goes
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>>179981994
Play the game, Rugal.
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>>179982042
who?
I have a doppel and regularly do solmiki, I'm not sure what are you implying
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Someone please tell RMJ to get lost.
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>>179982042
Cyclone drops off really hard in terms of damage. If you have EVERY attribute and are in an aoe scenario, it's roughly;

Punish > Zwechhau > Zornhau > Sturtzhau/Empowered Zucken/Redel > Empowered Moulinet > Cyclone

It's just filler when you have no CD's and in any good group you'll have a Chrono so it's basically useless. Still good to have though.
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Are there any good budget/welfare accessories for 315+? I'm still using level 50~ stuff.
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>>179982360
glass bracelets used to be decent in terms of mdef but nowadays I don't think they're that necessary
Hethran accessories are decent but they have a con penalty and you need hethran medals in the first place, which you'll only have if you have farmed R8 maps
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>>179982417
Thanks for the reply. I'm trying to avoid -con gear since i'm going to have to get Sarkmis in future and that's enough CON loss as is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLzDpOSW638

Fencer and friends vs demon lord hauberk
not sure how well whale'd he is but the damage from this orange 330 rapier is good and he crits VERY often.
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>>179982509
did you get enough con to offset the sarkmis penalty? if not, then you can use negative con accessories without worrying much, cause con can't go below 1, and even with max peta and dehvlin gauntlets you don't get enough con to compensate for it
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>>179982619
Is that so? Thanks, didn't know that, thought it'd just go lower. I have like 50 invested con. Maybe if I ever get it i'll just reroll all my con into STR since it's pointless anyways.
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>>179982736
I personally use red gems on chest and pants and yellows on boots and have 36k hp with 1 con, and I think in general it has been enough, haven't had much trouble with it
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>>179982509
Without con, Rapid Bangles are still fairly easy to get and their 40 HP Recovery becomes pretty significant. Mainly useful for solo grinding if you decide to use campfires instead of chugging pots.

And you'd have them ready if you ever got some Battle Bracelets to make Sissels with too.
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>>179982971
I'm a doppel. Should I get sissel or phada?
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>>179983186
sissels have crit rate which is good now because it's scarce, while phada is not that good in places like ET because most people bring falconers, that reduce AoE defense to 0 with circling, making AoE attack ratio not that good
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>>179983250
Okay, thank you kindly. Although im not dex build more crit is still good to have.
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>>179983285
I'm full str and I value crit rate highly, I think I have around 430 crit rate without wearing leather (I got lolo plate set before renewal) without buffs and that's about 30-40% chance to crit on average I think, it's very noticeable and really helps with your DPS. Most of the crit rate comes from the weapon, the gems on the weapon and the sissels
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How many crit rate should I aim for as SR?
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>>179983730
400-500 is comfy if you're not a whale, and Swift Step helps a lot.
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CoffeeHouse is recruiting
We don't care about your class and shit
We look for Fedimian anons and do things, thats it
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suggestion: every time someone try to repair a (single) item with a squire and they don't have enough mats, the game should just DC the squire
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For archers, how much does defense matter? I'm considering mixing gear from lower levels.
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>>179984109
But do you do ERP?
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>>179981805
>Prove me wrong.
No Bloodletting on PD.
Maxed Cyclone on doppel.
That hoplite, holy shit.
>CON
All the builds I've seen contain some slight misinfo to make people who follow these guides a little weaker that they could be.
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>>179984746
con always has a disclaimer though, that depending on your gear you can go without it.
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con gives you so much uptime when soloing that is not even funny

I have 50 con on my swordsman and sometimes I wish I had more
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>>179984883
>soloing
>in an MMO

lol this looser doesnt even h ave friends
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>>179984883
Uptime on fucking what?
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>>179984109

this >>179984397 is very important
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>>179984948
Someone who can't even spell loser correctly should stop calling other people one.
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>>179984883
Uhhmmmm
Have you tried wearing armor?
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>>179984397
>>179985094
Lewd isn't minded but we don't ERP
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>>179970808
THANK YOU, i was asking for this several generals ago
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>>179985002
Uptime as in standing up. Alive. As opposed to dead. That's the point of con.
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>>179985393
Since you're not fooling anyone, Futa;
balls, no balls, vagina or not?
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>>179985668
B-but thats not the same picture?
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>>179970808

so much better than generic anime
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>>179985747
>dying in PvE
>after the rebalance
What
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>>179985932
but it is
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>>179986124
Yeah but the second one is clearly lewder.
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can someone give me a quick rundown on what is dpk and what those special dungeons in the OP on the google spreadsheets are?

are they instances? im just confused because i cant find them on the /indun
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Any guide anywhere on what to do with my cards? I'm going lancer, iv racked up a few but do I just sell them or what, none of them seem good enough to use
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>>179986573
Chapparition and Glass Mole are the only one worth using.
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>>179985747
Nigga you WHAT?
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>>179985146
>>179986086
>>179986714

I have 2k phys def, 1.7k mdef. Farming non stop without cleric demands some con
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>>179986903
No it doesn't, buy and use potions you retard.
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>>179986390
DPK (Drop Per Kill) is a number assigned to certain rarer drops, usually with a small degree of variance. Instead of a flat drop chance, these items have a 1/(DPK - KillsForThatMonster) chance of dropping, shared between channels and players. tosgbase has the DPK value for most items.

Hunting Grounds are like Field Dungeons rather than Instanced Dungeons, they're part of the open world and you can just kill things as long as you like. The difference being Hunting Grounds have much tougher enemies, but have higher drop chances, exp, silver, and the chance to drop unique Cubes that contain weapons and armor that can only be found in Hunting Grounds.

I thought that spreadsheet had locations but I guess not. You can use tosgbase and click the map of the one you want, go to Misc, and click the dot next to the one you want to show its location on the map on tosgbase. There's probably an easier way to do this but oh well.
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/147507
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>>179987295
Oh I'm an idiot, there's a video of their locations on the first page of the spreadsheet. I usually ignore that page.
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>>179987376
oh i found the video thanks, i admit i glanced over that because it wasnt in english
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>>179987473
Gas the world, make english the only language. We anglos are powerful enough to do it.
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>>179987573
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>>179987573
If anything its the chinks that do.
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So today I got my first taste of dungeons rushing from 100ish to 200ish.

Few things.

Its so messy, everyone has so many fucking spells I cant even tell if I am hitting shit or not, is there any addons or settings I may have missed to clean it up a bit? Maybe hide other peoples dmg?

I am using mouse on a swordsman but starting to think it may not be the best. Theres lots of issues moving into range when theres so much shit clumped up. Any solutions for this?

thanks and good bye
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>>179987756
SEAmonkeys are so delusional
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>>179988038
You can remove damage numbers in the options menu.
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>>179988038
>I am using mouse on a swordsman
NO
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does laimas movespeed reduction work on bosses?
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>>179986938

con is here to fortify your potions, anon
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>>179989082
You dont' need con at all, stop being a cheap fuck
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>Hop into Crystal Mines with Instance Multipliers active
>First bosses spawn
>Immediately kicked out of instance
well
good thing i'm too tired to really care right now
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>>179988038
Use WASD to move in mouse mode.
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>>179989129

>multiplier on crystal mines

what the fuck, not worth even with thauma
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>everyone says tanks doesnt exist and you shouldnt build around ME TANKER
>alright
>go pelt rodel for millo
>feedback say that leveling con is retarded
>wasnt going to level swash too much, but people said it was NEEDED
>"yeah, just dont focus on survivability" "pelta is good for taunting"
>left it at 10 that seemed enough
>260 dun
>getting mowed down by mobs despite decent gear and slithering through magic, burn more pots than an addict
>"why dont you have guardian and high guard above level 3/1?"

i know im new and retarded i just want to know how to fix it. or should i just keep a stiff upper lip till 330~ which then the gear enhancement and other shit is enough to keep me alive?

i already have 3 +1.700 ~2.000 hp hats, if that's any help.
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>>179989419
They were gonna expire otherwise and I find it kinda fun.
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>>179989625
Well if you dont have a healer and you taunt the whole room you're gonna get shit on even with good gear

Only full con helps in those cases, but for endgame you always have heals thats why people say full con is useless for pve
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>>179989625
never listen this shitty reddit general anon.
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>>179989419
>she didn't get a stockpile of literally 100+ multipliers from playing the game while it was bugged

fucking loser
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>>179989625
If your dps can't kill your pulls before they wear you down, do smaller pulls. Whenever you enter a dungeon assume all the dps are shit, see how quick they kill a small group, and then go big if they're fine.

If someone gives you shit despite seeing that enemies are eating you up, ignore them and if they're mad enough they'll try grabbing some enemies and take hits themselves instead.
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>>179989625
>Pelt3 Murm

Are you a retard? Pelt1hop2rod3murm is objectively the best murm there is. Maybe perhaps a silly build with hop1 dop1 instead.
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>>179989625
Can you just play CryoChrono instead? You can still group everything up while actually being useful to the group in other ways. You can still go full CON, wear a shield, and everything; you'll even be faster than a Swordie because of Haste.
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where ot lvl 223 to 230? im out of dungeon resets sadface
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>>179990674
:owo: go quest in areas of yuor level :thumbsup:
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>>179989831
>>179990273
So just go around gauging the party and act accordingly. Gotcha. Most of the time I don't get a healer (and most clerics dont have the no damage attribute or are interested in healing), so I kinda just rely on potting.
>>179990421
sorry i said i was retarded not braindead, there are billion of better mmoprgs and even mobas if i wanted to play something like that.
>you can still go full con
did you even read my post my dude
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>>179990674
press n
look for area with your number on it
go there and do quest or kill shit

or

click hg info in op
go to hg near your level
kill shit
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>con is useless

not only the burst heal is better but the ticks are also much stronger (400 vs 1200)
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>>179990413
>Objectively
Interesting, can you post the theorycrafting around it, please?
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>>179990929
i tried the 210 hunting grounds but i feell ike things would take too long to kill and burn too many pots to stay there
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>>179990993
This. I'm full con and my heals heal me almost 20k with Ein Sof and Restoration.
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>>179990926
>did you even read my post

Yeah I read "HURR I WANT BE TANK EVEN THO THEY R TRASH" and disregarded the rest. If you want to be a massive faggot and just be a drain on every party you join, go for it, but if you want to be useful play a CryoChrono.
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>>179991232
So, you didn't?
You do know that there's no post count or anything here.
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>>179972773
That is such a small reason just to get dragoon 1. Serperntine attribute at c2 is so fucking OP you would be insane not to go C2 Dragoon for it.

This is why Lancer rarely hit #1 with real C2 drags around cause the serpentine debuff and dethrone takes all the aggro and dps from a lot of people.
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What gear sets should i start working towards now im 220 going lancer? should i make some of those roxonna ones?
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>>179990413
>objectively my meme build is better than armor breaking build
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>>179986124
And where do you get the second version ? google search finds nothing :/
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>>179991016
Hop2 gives you syncro thrusting, which has pretty high modifiers coupled with cassis crista and finestra 10 is like 150 crit rate and a fuckton of block rate. The build should most likely be either str/con or full con, and compensate with the damage with a combination of cassis crista, trans and a really high crit chance from finestra and a few gears, such as lolo leather set.

What does pelt3 give you? Budget Shooting Star in the form of Butterfly and Armor break which you won't be able to exploit anyway?

Some nobi variant? Please, it's only for bossing and nothing else.

Sw3? Maaaybe, but it's going to be a weird dex build.
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>>179991407
kek
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>>179991407

Us dragoonbros have a bad reputation because of falseflaggers like you. That or you're delusional.
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>>179991525
>Armorbreak a few mobs every quarter a minute
>Superior

If you really wanted to kill bosses that much, just go with high3 XX goon2.
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>>179991407
wew lad

400% + 5997
vs
600% + 4296 (6 hits)
Not to mention all elemental damage, concentrate, blessings and shit will apply to each hit individually.

But sure, I guess it doesn't even compare. Snipe's range must make up for the fact it's not a huge AoE attack.

>>179991624
wew lad x2

Serpentine:
700% + 6482 (7 hits)
Dragon Soar:
500% + 4170 (5 hits)
Both AoE, of course.

The only thing Musketeer has that clearly outmatches Dragoon is Covering Fire which is godly (and aesthetically magnificent). Headshot is a slightly better single target version of Gae Bulg.

Let's not even get started on Doppelgoon which is what I played on kTOS.
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>>179991624
It's true though. That debuff is really good what's not true about it? You literally would see the difference in damage in that 10 secs of the debuff being active. More so when your dethrone, dragoontooh, and other skills you can think off are at 30+ attributes.
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>>179991765
>only 10s debuff
>she doesn't play Barbgoon
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>>179982579
That looks WAY better than any Doppel damage I've seen.
Dopcucks on suicide watch?
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>>179990993
Yeah but you dont need it in pve
So it is useless
If you want sacrifice alot of damage just get more out of pots then be my guest, but you're just subpar at that point
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140, 170 or 260 for multipliers?
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>>179990413
This might be the stupidest post I've read in a while.
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>>179990674
Do quests my man. Install addon manager from the OP, get betterquest, start playing.
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>>179991565
those are just highlighting the build pros and downplaying other builds pros to support your point through "i think". you said objective.

i feel cheated
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>>179991886

>a lot of damage

lol

I'm not saying to go full con. when you swash buckler the whole screen and monster spits infinite magics on you having stronger potions is better than +300 if the extra atk is not enough to reduce the killing time by saving one overheat or two
80% of the damage comes from gear anyway
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>20% of your damage is useless
i really hate this meme
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is it misinfo hour or did the thread IQ drop a fuckton due to some mischievous god influence
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So after I'm satisfied with my weapon then what? Do I just save shards for r9, or do I transcend some armor or something? What's the best armor?
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>>179991864

Delete this or the sperglord doppelfag will come to you. He keeps saying that doppel' dps for bossing is better but runs away from any serious debate and provide 0 backup videos
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>>179992405
Sell your shards and buy cute outfits and hats.
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>>179992361
stats dont really matter when you get your orange trans10 +15 with 10 gems, its a nice boost but really not that relevant
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>>179992272
20% is alot of damage
People sacrifice much much more for much much less to get more damage out
In this game damage is king
The faster you kill shit the better your build is

And of course having con is great. But not if you're having heals, which is almost always the case in any endgame scenario that is relevant
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>>179992007
260.
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>>179992184
Lets use pros then:

Hop2:
Block 175%
Crit rate 150
Synchro Thrusting + Cassis Crista has additional 150% modifier on top of Syncro 10's 493%

Pelt3:
Armor Break
55% def guardian
Block +370
A skill set boosted by Cassis Crista
Pretty high modifers on Umbro/Rim blows, with 100% from high guard
and 150% from Cassis Crista

SW3:
Pain Barrier 15
Double Slash
Fancy Costume

Hop1Dop1:
Deeds5
Syncro 408% (Can be used with sword)
Cyclone

Actually, Hop1Dop1 sounds really good.
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>>179992871
Can we just stop talking about worthless PvP classes like Murm?
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>>179993262
t. doppelnigger
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>>179992498
You mean +21
No one should waste trans10 and lvl 10 gems on a shitty +15/16 desu
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>>179992871
thats more of a objective view but you still didnt do a comparison if pelt3 and hop2, i mean pretty high modifiers are nice but i was expecting stuff like dps% by using cooldowns, comparing the output considering high guard up/downtime, synchro trust block dmg bonus application, % critical damage increase of using yellows/greens with and without finestra, armor break relevance compared to spear lunge evasive stab damage bonus, damage contribution of thrust and butterfly compared to stabbing and pierce, even hop 2 /pelt3 attribute investiment differences
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>>179993262

kys doppel carebear
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>>179993262
Can we just stop talking?
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>>179993301
I don't have a single viable PvP or PvE build, but it's pointless to pretend classes like Murmillo are viable outside of PvP.
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while I think that pelt c3 is slight better today thanks to the fat damage mods, hop 2 is not bad and makes your murm skills more reliable. spear lunge for evade thrust and a much better critical rate and aoe ratio for your murm set
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>>179993479
Can we just stop?
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>>179993385
Not him, and that sounds very interesting but no one should waste their time to compare 2 subpar builds with so much detail

I wish someone would do this for doppel/fencer though
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>>179993506

what about you play the game first

murm is okay for pve, farming dpks and HG, you can even roll 35f
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>>179993759
Literally any class can do HG and DPK farm.
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>>179993759
>35f
yeah sure if you bring a falconer, but thats just the falconer carrying the murm
or the rest of the party does it

In reality that build does shitfuck all in ET because shitty range and aoe
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>>179993917
>>179993881

so the guy wants to be a murm and he can do 90% of the game content with it

sounds viable to me
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>>179993262
if murmillo is a worthless class outside of minigames, then so is every swordie except doppel, might as well just "discuss" meta builds here then
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>>179994392
You mean except Shinobi
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>>179994392
You mean except Fencer.
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Is it possible to solo any part of ET?
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>>179994392
You mean except THE secret Hop Fencer Lancer build
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>>179994776
No. You need more people to pass the floors where you gather energy.
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Are both wedding dresses gatcha items or was one of them from an event? I mean the "my wedding dress" and the heart throb one
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>>179994939
Info

>>179994972
Misinfo
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>>179995095
Both of those are from the Gacha.
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>>179991543
unknown. $100 worth of tp to the anon who can find the lewd version
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you can solo 1f if you're not a shitter but it's pointless
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>>179995164
Couldn't you just search the original image, find the artist, and then search for the artist?
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>>179995164
i only found these

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4186&name=nicname&subject=Array&keyword=%EB%A9%8D%EA%B5%AC&l=326
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4186&name=nicname&subject=Array&keyword=%EB%A9%8D%EA%B5%AC&l=141
didnt saw a pixiv or other profile of that person yet.
fukin koreans. stop hididng ur shit
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>>179991543
Because its a shop
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>>179994972
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
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Is dex worth it on doppel?
The highlander skills are so damn slow
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What's the addon people use to click saalus party links .00001 seconds after they show up?
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>>179995723
Sure. But you'll want whale gear to make it worthwhile in the end.
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>>179995723
100 dex is not a big deal
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>>179995836
I'm going to die without ever touching boobies in my life. What a painful existence.
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>>179996085
So its only good if the atk increase from STR is negligible?
I'm at rank 5 trans on a +13 galeslasher
Doubt I will ever get more than 6
>>179996162
Is it noticeable though for the attackspeed?
I want to fit more highlander skills into my zwerchau duration
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>>179996372
take estrogen and grow your own.
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>>179996372
just be yourself
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>>179996457
I have my own even without estrogen, but it's not the same.
>>179996546
I've been doing that for 30 years.
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>>179996638

Hire a hooker if it's that important to you.
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>Daino scrolls at 4k+
>>
what's more profitable, daino 1 5 or 6
gonna start undercutting hard
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>>179998116
disregard that 6
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>>179998116
5
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>>179991449
You really don't need to worry about gear until 315, make sure your weapon is up to date and just use whatever armor you find. You level too fast in this game to worry about it.
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>>179999518
>CHING CHONG NIP NOG
Translate it dWeeb
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>>179999596
I broke my spine, can you please help me in the wheelchair?
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>>179996696
Hookers aren't the real thing and fake boobies are gross. I've already missed out on that part of my life. I slept through the first 30 years of my life and now it's already over.
>>
>>179999596
My Korean is pretty rusty, but I'm almost certain it says "FUCK MY ASS BIG BOY!"
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>>179999687
Escorts are like girlfriends, you can fuck them and have fun with their body without the emotional baggage

It's never to late for anything, but if you dont start nothing will change
Don't be a fucking bitch who cries that she turned 30
Men get only better with age
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>>179999596
these >>179999638 >>179999780 are both wrong.
it means CHING CHONG NIP NOG Translate it dWeeb
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>>179999879
Got no money.
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Auto-follow function when? Tired of having to reach my laptop every min so my clonebot reaches my thaum.
>>
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255590/alarming-number-of-americans-believe-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows

this is your typical klaipeda friend
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What's with this lag?
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>>179994392
You mean except properly built Dragoons right?
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>>180001013
good source
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>>180001013
>White milk mixed with chocolate
>White milk
>WHITE
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>Shitter joins a party to rush
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How many points should I have in backmasking and slow as cryochono?
Also I know you should have ice wall, snow rolling and pillar maxed and one point in ice pike. But what else is worth point in chrono? Ice blast any good? seems kinda meh.
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>>180001013
>1k sample size
>7%
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>>180001712
>ice wall maxed

fuck off and die
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>>180000142
You sure have enough to shitpost in a weeb image board, buddy
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>>180001790
I thought it was a main skill for cryos, could you elaborate on the issue?
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>>180001790
it's really surprising how many people underestimate a well placed ice wall with a bunch of physical dealers during a boss fight
boss melts, but people starts complaining anyway, then everyone gets shuts up and gets surprised when that cryo pops a #1
t. full con cryochrono
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>>180001790
>>180002049
hes a retard. wall is good. and cryo3 does not lack points
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>>180001712
Ice blast is for pushing enemies, which can be useful since you're only putting a couple points per skill just for the cc.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888e.152535.1321354f5a617585.1f213c415a6175.1131415185

You can move around some Cryo points like Ice Bolt/Wall/Blast however you like. For Chrono, you can drop Slow if you want and play around with the points in Stop. Do whatever you want with the spare points in Sage.

>>180001790
Ice Wall is good, don't fall for this ruse.
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stfu pokart lmao
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>>180002301
Use this actually, don't know why I put points in energy bolt
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888e.112535.1321354f5a617585.1f213c415a6175.1131415185
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How do you place ice walls correctly for a boss? I'm a shitter.
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>>180002168
>>180002156
>>180002049
>>180002301
Stop eating my AoE attack and shitting all over monster positioning for minuscule damage you worthless cocksleeve support sluts. Stick to where you belong, in the back doing nothing but pressing 2 buttons.
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>>180002826
>minuscule
kek
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>>180002826
t. anon cucked in DPS by a Full Con ChronoCryo.
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>>180002826
>melee
stop pretending to do DPS
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Icewall is as good as your matk so stop using +0 ice rods for your chronos. Use the strongest staff that you can (315 hg blue is nice)

Get Good pardoner 2k+ blessing. Enjoy your #1.

Tips: Gust procs icewall so if you don't want to fuck with yoru party, don't drop the icewall under the boss, just put it next to it.

Make a "cube" formation but let at least one segment touch the boss (for ice blast) and cast Gust + staff C hits. If you position it property, your party will be okay and synergy combos will happen naturally (rush. cyclone, energy blast)

>why cube

Because that way Gust will hit more tiles and proc more shards.

Reminder: with the attribute at cryo 3, you can iceblast the boss 6x per icewall, 9x with Pass and Iceblast attribute is cheap.

Icewall levels: I suggest at minimum lv 8 (to a potentially 12 with audra+dm+gem). Each level gives more "HP" to the icewall so the hit count is higher

Advanced tips: Use your Audra staff + Icewall gem. to create the wall and then weapon to swap to proper DPS weapon (audra sux for dps past 200)

Aoe atk ratio: aoe atk ratio gear like vubbe fighter gloves enables you to hit more icewall segments when using a staff's C.
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>>180003336
It's really funny how doppels and fencers and murms and all that swordtrash tries to figure out whos the best single target damage when its actually cryo runecaster
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>>180003464
>reddit spacing
Fuck off.
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>>180003464
So at which levels should I have Gust, Ice Blast and Ice wall?
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>>180003471

higher burst but unless you bring 4 chronos to pass your ass, there's no chance to compete with swordfags on a proper WB or even with the oracles ruining everything
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>CryoChrono
>giving fucks about dmg
Stop it
No, you dont dps well
You support
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>>180003960

IW 8, Blast 12, Gust 1.

There's also the option to go Gust over icewall. Gust with the attribute is slight stronger at first but Iceblast will do more once you start upgrading attributes so I prefer Iceblast > Gust.

For a full PVE build one can roll lv 0 subzero shield and max both icewall and iceblast but it's simply not worth. pvp as a full con cryochono is fun and subzero shield + missile hole is cheating
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I'm looking to get back into the game after being gone for a long while. what's a good, fun build I can play?
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>>180004171
Could you post a cryochronosage build that you think would be ideal? Thank you
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>>180004254
Fun things are fun!
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>>180004254
archer3ranger3Cannon2
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>>179959274
where and how do I find the Vieretta Mace?
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>>180004323

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888e.152535.13214f6a7585.1f2131415a6175.1131415185

some stuff you depend on your playstyle. been a whiel since I touched chrono (I play cryo 3 psychokino 3).

leftovers:
you can put a few more on reincarnate so you don't need to time it perfectly

I dislike leveling stop too much because it can fuck up your party sometimes

backmasking: larger range, usually worth maxing

slow: whatever left

Sage: both damage skills aren't that great. ultimate dimension is aoe and does 4 hits, micro dimension hits harder and has 3 overheats but it has a small aoe so it's up to you, to ne honest your dps doesn't really matter so at least a value point is mandatory: micro dimension can clone some things and ultimate dimension can enlarge some aoes (only 10% but it's still something)

Blink: each level also increases the teleport range. LV 5 is very noticeable in comparison to lv 1

Again, it will be up to you
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>>180004254
elememe is pretty good and useful right now
wiz3 ele3 wl2
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Post armpits.
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what's a good build for a support? cleric into priest into chaplain?
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>>180005465
>star eyes
>heart eyes
>red eyes
>blue eyes
>orange eyes
>yellow eyes
>NO GREEN EYES

WHAT THE FUCK IMC?
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>>180005919
wow, it smells like semen
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>>179959274

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>>180005947
No, chaplain is a memeclass
A good support wants cleric2priest2 for survivability as a base and then as many party enhancing things as possible
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>>180005919

too lewd delet
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Fuck off healnigga you aren't even FP
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>>180005947

Cleric2Diev3Priest2Taoist.
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Guys is doing Sword 3 -> Cata3 -> Drag2 or Drag1/Lancer 1 good?

Do I need to keep mounting off and on to use the Cata, Drag and Lancer skills?
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>Scout3 and Wugushi are my favorite classes
>can't fit them in a single build

But I want them both!
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>>180006643
Archer3Wugu3Scout1Mergen!
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>>180006793
I like Scout3 because it has a really good skill for small groups of monsters, and Wugu has good skills for large groups of monsters and bosses.

R9 needs to hurry so I can be Archer3 Scout3 Wugu3.
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>>180006253
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>>180005947
cleric 2/3 priest 2/3 fillers (diev1/chaplain/kabba1/oracle1/PD1) taoist
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>>180006483
PLS Respond ;_;
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>>180007110
I went drag1 lanc1 and I'm having fun!
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>>180007110
I'll keep mounting you if you don't shut up.
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>>180006483
cata is pretty bad now I think
goon is meh
lancer is good
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who do I have to contact if I'm in klai and I want lewds...
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>>180007290
>Lewds often involve these plants
>Always low level classes
Artists are bad at games confirmed
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Contact any ex-CNL for quality lewd time.
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>>180007486
Cocksandra
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>>180007535
this is pretty obvious, artists spend a lot of time drawing and not much time actually playing the game so they'll always be low level plebs
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So what happened to cnl?
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Is it possible to enable more rows for controller without using the awkward as fuck second row (R2+L2). I need like one or two more button combinations to fit all my hotkeys and I'd really like to keep playing on controller instead of kb.
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>>180007758
is dead
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They need to fucking fix dodge already. There's no way I should be losing 12k HP just by passing through a couple of archers 100 levels below me.
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>>180007850
can someone explain with details how it ended up dying?
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>>180008265
hmm

>leader does dumb things
>people dont like that
>many random get invited
>leader does dumb things
>people dont like that
>leader 'quits until rank9'
>many people leave
that's pretty much it
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Who cares what happens to not tosg guilds
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>>180008543
I hate niggers as much as anyone else but plas really did nothing wrong. Things probably got out of control at some point (invite a friend, a friend of a friend, a noches of a friend, etc...) and before he realised the guild turned into a zoo.
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>>180008543
Thanks.
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>>180007207
But what's the mechanic for that build? Mount to use Cata skills then unmount to use Dragoon skills?

>>180007368
P-P-Pls don't ;_;
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>>180008810
Most people do. Its like celebrities on tv. Half the general is about that shit. Maybe its because that is 'murican culture'. I dont really get it or care.
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>>180008265
Sorry, it's all my fault. I was a high ranking official in CnL and I was crushing every pussy in that guild. I must've had sex 10-20 times a day on average. Eventually, word got out and an explosion of drama, almost as large as the amount of semen I released into all those cuties, completely demolished the guild.

I remain in contact with them and still crush puss on the side, but the harmony of the guild has been ruined.
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>>180008890
t. nazimagica
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>>180008985
niceme.me
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>>180008985

relax Lalaco
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>>180008939
I know pretending to be dumb is supposed to be cute or something, but you can use all Dragoon skills while mounted. It even says so on the fucking skill calculator.
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>>180008939

Anon, please. All sword 3, cata 3 and dragoon/lancer skills can be used while mounted. so you stay mounted 24/7 when playing this build. in fact, all cata and lancer skills demands the mount, dragoon is the optional one
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>>180006253
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>>180009279
I honestly didn't know that, I wouldn't be asking if I did.

>>180009285
So that means if I want to make a sword3 cata 3 drag 2 I can just stay mounted forever then? Btw is there a passive with Cata that lets me not be de-mounted when hit? I have no clue about the class at all.
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>>180009716
yeah when you have the riding passive it allows you not to get de-mounted when hit and allows you to use skills while riding
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>>180009716
>is there a passive with Cata that lets me not be de-mounted when hit
Can you play the game before asking dumb questions? Just play a little bit, I'm begging you.
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>>180008265
Tired of being even less relevant than >Futureproof
the leader decided to convert the once comfy guild into a "hardcore" one. People who didn't meet the new requirements of being a NEET and/or whale and didn't follow the leader's list of approved generic meta builds would get promptly kicked. Seriously.
People didn't care at first because only shitters or people not part of the inner circle were getting kicked. Then when their friends and some of the people they considered "nice" and "fun to be around" started getting gassed like the jews, that's when shit first hit the fan.
Eventually people would get threatened for the most dumb things, like "omg you were in party with a person I didn't like, if you do it again I'm kicking you". The guild was being led by someone who behaved like an unstable teenager, so people eventually gave up on it and left, save for the innermost circle of bootlickers. The ones who left would then be replaced by literal randoms and so the guild ceased to be recognized as a tosg guild and ceased to be relevant.
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>>180010090
Too much of a knowledge pool and a shitload of restrictions to just try it out outside of the reset events, better ask questions now than do it and waste time getting one to 330 and realizing you don't like it and just sitting in this thread or the forums complaining about shit. You know like what you're doing right now.

>>180010038
Last question is viability. Are they better than regular Sword3 Hop3 builds or both have their pros and cons?
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>>180010441
>omg you were in party with a person I didn't like, if you do it again I'm kicking you
Um, cuckjane, listen, you need to be more subtle.
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>>180010605
You do realize the answer to every question you asked is on tos.neet.tv, right?

Cata got fucking raped in renewal, it sucks ass damage wise but it still has Trot so it's ok.
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>>180008265
>>180010832
also because as you can see they couldn't help but namefag and shit up the thread like autists
literal reddit guild
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>>180003464
>staff
>and miss out on +25% mdef
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>>180010952
>Defense at all mattering post renewal
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>>180010832
Ok thanks.
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>>180011023
Not having defense does matter in renewal.
What doesn't matter is stacking def like before.
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>>180010952

yeah you surely can shield bash the icewalls

we do this while questing and to speed up saalus and shit, family member
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>>180011163
That's what I mean
And mdef is far less important than it once was with all armor having it as a stat now.
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>>180011226
>another delusional support slut pretends his damage matters

retard
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Goddamn you people are stupid. The point isn't for a Cryo to out damage an actual dps, it's to contribute and make your runs faster.
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>>180010441
This is savage and true
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>>180011557

wowowowo next time I go questing I'll surely remember to call my doppeloverlord anbd just logout when I queue for siauliai/saalus on a party of 4 clerics
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>>180011668
>another delusional support slut pretends his damage contributes in any way

retard
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Ok so I'm just finishing up sword 3, not really sure where to go from here. Does it matter which kind of weapon you use for double slash? I'm between Dragoon and Corsair. What sort of builds would be ideal for each? Can they both handle soloing content alright?
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>>180011668
You are partly retarded and at fault for reacting to obvious shitposting
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>>180011723
>questing alone as a support slut

you faggots are straight retarded, try making friends
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>>180011941

This is why these threads are so shit. People throw around misinfo and retarded statements and make fun of people for trying to correct them.
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>>180012046
Okay you dumb whore, while you're sitting in the back auto attacking an Ice Wall I'll just be here waiting for you to fucking Pass me so I can fucking kill the boss already.

As if being such a faggot that you roll the "I live to suck dick" class wasn't enough, you're not even smart enough to play it correctly.
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>>180012046
Anyone with half a god damned brain knows it's a shitposting retard, you don't need to correct someone who's going to contradict everything you say
Save the correct info for people who want to know and stop encouraging shitposters, it's not that fucking difficult
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>>180011932
If you enjoy solo'ing so much, you can figure it out for yourself.
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>>180012334
Square hips looking retarded as fuck
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so I thought that with the reset, I'd be able to reset my old character and respec, but apparantly I missed that opportunity. I put like 5 points of con in my cleric and gave him all the premium items that were in my inbox; should I delete him and restart on a new character, losing out on all the xp tomes and crap so I can go full spr?
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>>180013671
5 con shouldn't make a huge difference but losting those xp tomes would be pretty bad
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>>180013085
Where do you see enjoys solo play in that post?
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>>180011932

you gotta decide family

mounted dragoon with spears and shit or corsair pirate

both can mix up with hoplite but if you go cata you'll need to go dragoon/lancer
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Is a Chaplain Inquisitor at all viable in Solmiki? I have FS Taoist and a Chronomancer but oddly enough my problem is finding good enough DPSes. My only other chars are dragoon and sr, kek
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>>180014930
it doesn't add much more than the taoist, so just bring the tao to afk in those floors
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>>180015162

Yeah, I was just wondering if the wheel+burn would help a lot in the dps check. Guess not
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where is the new critical rate formula, guys? google search fucks up with old information
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>>180006253
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>>180015820
>not searching the goddamn official site
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What materials are needed for 3d glasses?
A long time ago I remember a red/blue lens but I don't know if it's changes
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>>180015820
damage = (% increase factor) x attack x min {1, log10 ((attack / (defense + 1))^0.9 + 1)} + (+ increase)

critical chance = (max(0, critical rate – critical resistance)) ^ 0.6

evasion chance = (max(0, evasion – accuracy)) ^ 0.65

block chance = (max(0, block – block penetration)) ^ 0.7
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>>180016513
Google it, dumberino.
It's craftable now and the materials are obtainable from guild raids (level 12 to 14)
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>>180016721
How does Crit Attack damage factor in?
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>>180016837
But I was told there wasn't a guild raid 12
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>>180015820
>>180016496
>>180016721

thanks

>>180017372

from what I found, it just adds as the normal attack when you crit
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>got from 291 to 329
>using nothing but the free stuff and even buff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsbOOPkmEGw
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What ToS song should I transcribe to Piano? My favorite is the song that plays in Owl Burial Ground but I can't find the name of it because I'm a moron.
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>>180016721
Can we put this into the fuckking pastebin or something
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>>180017708
Xanadu, that's the name of it
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>>180017497
>from what I found, it just adds as the normal attack when you crit
pls retard

>>180017372
for crits:
damage = skill% * (1.5 * attack + crit attack) * log10 ((attack / (defense + 1))^0.9 + 1)
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>>180017708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zqP-0Q7YfU
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>>180017681
>52% team level

Fucking how? Mine won't go above level 49.
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>>180017970
>>180017905
What in the fug I don't remember it being so untzy. It probably wouldn't sound near as good without it. Oh well.
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>>180017989
More characters.
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>>180018579
I have 6 characters and a pet above 317
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>>180018642
Get them to max level
Also 6 characters is not much
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>>180019382
I'm not going to waste my time leveling past 317 when they're already class level 15.

I'm also not paying Kim 33 TP each time I want to make a new character.
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>>180019520
Well then dont complain that you can break lvl 50 team

Each character at lvl 330 gives like 10% more exp to team level than they do at lvl 317
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>>180019621
Oh. I guess it doesn't really matter since I'm capped on character slots anyway and I haven't played since the reset event ended.
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Is this game worth giving a shot now? I heard it got a big, good update or something?
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>>180020075
You missed the only things of note. Event that let you fully reset your characters for free for a week, and "bug" that put the servers out for a bit and the following compensation that let you level a character from 1 to 330 in less than a day.
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>>180017962
>damage = skill% * (1.5 * attack + crit attack) * log10 ((attack / (defense + 1))^0.9 + 1)

Thanks. Is crit attack even worth it, though? Attack is 1.5x the value, so crit rate and raw attack seems to be far more important.
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>>180020396
Well.... oh well.
I don't know anything about this game, really. I never even installed it before. I just remember wanting to try it out when it came out and people telling me "don't bother" and all and I saw lots of negative reviews.

But now a lot of reviews are positive with the recent patch so I assumed they changed some major things that previously made the game unappealing to a lot of people.
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>>180020075
It's fun, just the end game gets kinda boring since most end game challenges are dps checks and all the progression past leveling eventually gets too easy without offering any alternative progression.
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>>179989625
What are you getting mowed down by? Poison from the birds? Get antidotes from the item vendor to remove poison. The rest of the stuff in there isn't that bad unless the rest of the party is useless, in which case pull less recklessly.
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>>180005465


>>180017989
>>180018642
>>180019520
there are exp walls in team leveling too
pretty inconsistent/random sometimes

https://tos.neet.tv/misc/exp-tables/team
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>>180020647
I'll check it out. I liked games such as Talesweaver and Trickster back then (dunno if that rings a bell for anyone) so it shouldn't be too strange to me.

Any advice before I jump straight in? Should I first pick a good guide on some site so I don't mess up my character in the long run or something?
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>>180020613
The negative reviews were mostly just angry BRs expecting this game to be Ragnarok Online and finding out it is not Ragnarok Online.
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>>180020908
>Talesweaver
Fuck yeah. I loved that game when it first came out but my computer was total shit and I couldn't play much of it (and I lagged the whole time I played)

I ended up getting FFXI on PS2 and forgot all about it. I wonder if I'd be able to put up with it if I tried to play it now.
Is it even still around?
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>>180005465
What does this shirt say and when is our version getting it? It's an event item right?
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>>180021319
I forgot. Maybe when we get"Klaipeda rework". Yes its free Event item.
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Every star in the sky is a former Futureproof member, looking out for you new players.

Never forget Zachariel Crossroads.
Never forget Altar Way.
Never forget Fedimian Suburbs.
Never forget Dina Bee Farm.

Never forget Futureproof !!
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>>180021613
never forget how you got cucked by atom
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Charging headfirst into battle.
With no fear of death.
With no chance of defeat.

Futureproof Strong.
Futureproof Strong !!

Fuck the PvE Heroes.
To hell with the carebears.
Hide your tower, it's no use.
Every hour is peak attendance hour.

"Drop whatever you're doing and come fight"
Soon the map is crawling with NEETs and dweebs.
Forever a blog poster.

Atom in.
Atom out.
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>>180019859
Then why were you taking issue?
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>>180021476
I think it's really cute. It's like sleepwear, and I'm sure it says something like "shoot your seed inside of me" because of that sprout at the bottom.
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>>180021613
You're not Kamina, heck off, nerd.
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>>180022165
What is this image
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>>180022742
dirty/prety Y
hard/easy X
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Twelve simultaneous wars.
Sounds like fair odds to us.
Bring all your members, call all your allies.
We're just getting started.

Five red dots on Channel 1.
Enemies are gathering up just beyond the cliff.
Don't think too much, just push up to them.
And don't forget about the ones spawning behind us.

"Go to the character select screen and change channels."
The normies are gathering for another strike.
I hope they stop sometime soon, I need to go quest on my new alt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJAwCBbnuc
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just stop
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How much SPR do you need for 5k blessing?
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>>180025326

You need Transmit Prana.
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>>180025326
I want to see a blessing of one full spr pardoner with full spr equip, 2 pay2win bracelets, getting spirit transfered from a full spr sadhu also with full spr equip and pay2win bracelets
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Archer3Ranger or Archer2Ranger2 for an AppSR3?
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>>180026386
doesnt matter
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What's the success rate of wedding weapon swap crash bug?
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>>180026750
I tried it once and only once after the last maintenance and crashed my whole party.
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>>180026750
Does not work for all people.
If it works, 100% for you, very high for others, first time.
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>>180026503
Really? Because archer3 makes you faster so I figured there was an optimal choice here
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Is there a story compilation somewhere? I assumed the story was crap, but now I'm finding some interesting things here and there and want to catch up.
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>>180027545
Goddesses love demon cock.
Cock is the root of all evil.
End of story.
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>>180027545

monk master is the scum of the humanity and thanks to him guiltine lost her faith in humanity and just'd the world tree and now the world is fucked up
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>>180028101
>Monks caused the disaster of the game
>Monk players cause disaster for their party
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>>180028101
>>180028629
Evoniphon was right, poisoning all the monks.
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Uhmmm, where can I find a cute cleric(male)?
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>>180029083

I've missed you.
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I've missed these threads! I hope you're enjoying your time in-game and are playing a cute cleric
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>>180025783
No pay2win bracelet yet but this is as high as buff goes in nipTOS. Bless 6k, sacra 2.3k.

Fucking QS3s murder shit at low level dungeons then SR3s cleaning HG before my PD even gets to mob
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>>180029083
>>180029396
Sup
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>>180029570
Cute taoist!
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Anyone from the Kali guilds on?
Coming back after a year and I've got a musketeer up to 280 and I cant take any more brazillians
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>>180029396
He's currently a Diev3 Oracle, thanks
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>>180031059

try reddit

/tosg/ is br territory
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Is this game good yet
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>>180031807
seed mia gem hehe..
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>>180031979
literally who
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Cookies should be team tradable.
This game is pure pain. The only way to win is to erp in a city 24/7
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>>180029083
>>180029396
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>>180027545
A few threads back we had some good lore discussion, but no there's no overall database anywhere, unfortunately.
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Is cute the next guild that /tosg/ will turn on? Spice must flow.
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>>180033389
futureproof is already being repopulated by ex-CnLs
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>>180031919
Is that a yes
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>>180033465
But futureproof is dead, it wouldn't be fun
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>>180033615
it's ok
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>>180032493

this, I have like 300 cookies on characters that don't need
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Do you guys ever look into the unused skills?
It really gets me curious about what R9 could hold
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>>180034884
Are they on tosbase?
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>>180035081
https://tos.neet.tv/skills?cls=none&f=1
I really hope to see centurion soon
https://tos.neet.tv/skills?cls=Char1_5&f=1
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>>180033016
Oh gosh that is CUTE!
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>>180034884
A lot of them have stayed unused for ages, even for classes we do have, so I don't have any particular hopes.

Centurion never.
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Give me some gud archer build with archer2 in it.
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>>180036002

all good archer builds have archer 2
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>>180036002
archer2sapper3falconer
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>tfw played over a year ago
>all my friends quit after one month
>came back recently because of the crazy compensation, hit 280
>realize that I had fallen for a misinfo agent post and my build is completely fugged, with no option to reallocate stats
>tfw waiting on the next reset event

Damn you misinfo agent, I hope your death is a slow and painful one.
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>>180035885
That is true, but the ones I am looking at are those that refer to the current R7/R8 classes and those that aren't actually ingame
It's just nice to wonder what's in store

His smile, gone for good
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>>180036298
Post build, I want to laugh at you
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>>180035176
The Mergen skills look like CRAP. Jump Shot and Rapid Fire both seem like trash. RIP in peace people that went Mergen.
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>>180036657
Oh wait, I just looked and Rapid Fire has a 0CD. Might not be too bad, but holy fug that SP cost will be intense.
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>>180036002
Fuck left, marry left, kill middle, fuck right sometimes
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What if they replaced Scout C2's Perspective Distortion with this?
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>>180037803
the class would still be shit
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>>180037945
b-but muh pass
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>>180038065
it would still be better to get 2 chronos than a shitty archer to ET
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>>180038257
1 chrono
1 scout2 falcon3
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>>180038389
I'm willing to bet if that skill was added it would be a c3 skill
Locking you out of falcons until R9
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>Wizard_BlcakHole

sage c3 will be amazing
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>>180038947
Sage is going to get an ability that lets them randomly teleport around the map. Mark my words.
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>>180039087
What about this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/20304
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>>180037803
>CD 9s
Sounds balanced
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>>180038947
HUGE BLACK HOLE
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>>180040537
This is probably the worst representation of dragoon I've seen
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If my favorite class in Ragnarok Online was a Champion, what should I play in TOS?
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>>180040537
that's not how hips work
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>>180040537
>Tee hee I'm innocent and nerdy but also incredibly slutty and a warrior
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>180040537
>those boobs look gross
>faggot glasses
>broken hips/spine
>poorfag spear

typical dragoon
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>>180040740
Monk, but only if your ping is below 0.02
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Haven't played in a year. Is Bokor still shit?
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>>180041397
bokor is somewhat decent and is getting buffed soon
effigy now has good scaling
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>>180041572
Cool. Before it seemed like it was a class mostly for masochists.
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>>180041397

effigy bokor is as good as before
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>>180039209
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How would you build an effigy bokor?
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>>180042772
Full INT, PD2 to pandemic your hexing
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You know what else would be cool
Circle 3 headgear
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>>180043006
You know what would be cooler?
THEM FINISHING THE FUCKING C3 COSTUMES NOW INSTEAD OF ADDING RETARDED FAGGOT WEEB WEDDING SHIT FOR GAYS
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>>180043241
That too
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Sword3 -> Rodelo3 -> Shinobi -> Murimillo

50 str, 100~150 dex, ALL Con

Will I be good?
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I"m so disappointed with the kino c3 costume
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>>180043241
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>>180043501
post pics
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>>180043501
Post it, neet only has the pyro3 so far, which looks awful
Please don't ruin cryo3 imc
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>>180043778
Cryo3 costume should look exactly the same
but with the hood on
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>>180043778
>>180043707

I don't have it, someone posted at that ktos main thread a few weeks ago

it was ok but not..."c3 worth" imo
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Corsair C3 costume when?
Pirate hats when?
Eye patches when?

WHEN IMC WHEN?
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>>180043376
I just made the skill build, is this good enough for the meme build?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111aaadc.3a4f5a6585.193a4551658a95.1125354153.1125354173
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>>180044993
Give up on your dreams.
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>>180045896
;_; It's that bad huh?
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>>180046083
Give up on your life.
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How could IMC make Paladin not shit?
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>>180044993
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111aaadc.3a4f5a6585.193a4551658a95.1125354153.1125354173

I'm not a expert on this build but I suggest you to do some research on the rodelero skills that the clones can use and consider a value point in montano, maybe max targe smash or shield shoving depending on the clones/cd/mods
regarding murm skills, make sure to MAX headbutt and scutum hit. scutum has a good mod and has three overheats, unlike frenzied slash (that is mostly a gap closer skill for pvp). keep those two at lv 1. also max headbutt because it has two overheats and a hidden damage mod that double the damage when the murm helmet is on

that how I would do

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111aaadc.233f5b6a7185.11213f415165768a95.1125314355.1121334575

>no concentrate

I'm prefer gung ho all the way with a high str some con, maybe a little dex for the block pen but that's it so gung ho favor str builds the most and the nature of murm itself is low hit count huge mods so it favors gung hot the most, but for the shinobi/rodelero part concentrate is okay

this is a more combat/pvp/cc/burst build so consider lv 3 for bash knockdown, if can go 0 if you want
clones copies double slash so 5/5 and they also copy pommel beat. pommel beat being a strike skill and with a 300% mod at lv 1 makes it a decent option to use and is improved by high kick/headbutt debuff, restrain for the stun

this build is fun to play at the pvp thanks to the nature of the sw3/rodelero/murm so it's a complete waste to not consider this options

again, rodelero distribution demands more research on the clone parts, but always consider montano for CC, shield charge to knockdown people (even clerics from safety zone) and push to interrupt. rest is dps choices
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>>180046954
It's that bad huh ;_;
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>>180047108
It's supposed to be a meme no str build

Thanks for the guidance.
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>>180047230
>le epic tank xd
Find another game
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>>180047230

you want to give up str for what? con? it's okay but consider that str gives accuracy so at least 100 points would be nice
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>>180044993
>>180047108
Why Rode3 instead of Pelt3? Do you want to be useless or what?
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Rate my Blockmillo.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333144c.254a5a65.16263f416a758191.193a4a71.1121334575
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>>180046990
Make Smite cost stamina instead of mana.
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>>180048885
How do you even have problems with SP? Just use pots you cheap fuckbag.
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>>180047408
But where can I go meme out shit build with other shitters like you?

>>180048081
That's the point, I don't need a lot of accuracy so I can get my sissels to proc.

>>180048301
That's also the point. I want a stupid build that makes me tanky while missing a lot. I'm trying to do a Darkness build.
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>>180049128
>I don't need a lot of accuracy so I can get my sissels to proc.

I would say "play the game" but I'd really rather you not.
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>>180046990
Lower CD on Turn Undead and make Spr improved success rate more useful, it's actually a decent skill when you get to use it. Also make Smite and Resist elements scale with Spr.
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>>180049338
I know that I'm not supposed to proc it cause that means I'm missing but that's the build I want and then I wish to get queued in your runs so I can piss you off and you die of an aneurysm. Good thing nobody knows who I am so I can be anybody that will be queueing with you now or in the future.

ENJOY :)
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>>180046990
How could IMC make Wugushi not shit?

Green lenses when?
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>>180049128

sissel procs are fun because of the moviment speed but the damage boost itself is mediocre, not even 20 stacks will make up for one missed scutum hit
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>>180049947
wow epik troll xd
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>>180050057
(You)'re welcome :^)
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>>180049952
They only need to revert the nerfs (Needle Shot duration and ticks per second on all poisons).
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>>180050152

they can't to this, the nature of the game changed, nearly all long duration skills were nerfed to half of the values. in fact, broom trap needs the same treatment that frost cloud, flame ground, flare shot and etc received

wugushi's problem is just damage mods and the elemental property system, it's a easy fix.

for the paladin problem, first of all, kys everyone who thinks that the problem is smite's sp cost. paladin just needs more spr interaction. they will buff sorc/bokor with new spr mods, proceed with new spr mods for conversion and turn undead and then we'll be fine
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>>180050491
Wait... flare shot was actually nerfed? What in the fuck that skill blows ass.

Also, you do realize the entire reason this retarded ass meta exists is because they keep nerfing AoE, but they don't touch the single most retarded shit in the game that is CryoChrono + Falconer. If other classes actually had decent AoE, CryoChrono Falcon wouldn't be fucking mandatory.
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>Fencer C3
>Epee Garde nerfed
>No Crit
>Balestra Fente does jack shit
>Cannot dodge properly

So it got nerfed in all fronts that I don't know why this class is even being considered "good".
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>>180050946
Just pump in more silver bro.
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>>180050946
>Cannot dodge properly
I have no idea if it's bugged or what, I can go full dex and still be juggled forever by bosses.
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>>180050946
>No Crit
>Balestra Fente does jack shit
Alright so you don't play Fencer, got it. Epee Garde's still fine too, and everyone's fucked for evasion now, not just Fencer.
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>>180051078
Pain Barrier
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>>180005973
there's no blue eyes anon
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>>180051514
Grey are pretty much blue.
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>>180051574
REEEEEEE NO THEY'RE NOT
I WANT TO BE ARYAN
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>>180052052
kek it won't make you any whiter in real life, monkey
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>>180040537
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>>180053336
stop
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>>180053336
>>180040537
This artist must get sunburnt a lot, and then to make it feel better he bathes in oil. Both of these pictures the girls look like fucking lobsters.
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>>180053336
wtf i have murms now
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>>180053413
ok but only because there are no more... until there are more!
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Why are all bots in Tenet 1f boys?
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>>180053851
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>>180054085
DPK still bugged makes monster gems drop pretty quickly there. Chance for Battle Bracelet to sell on the market or on their chink websites.
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>>180054547
Ok. But why are they all boys?
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>>180050820

flare shot was broken, specially for falconer. nerfed from 15 to 10 seconds (as any other aoe)
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>>180050946
Fencer isn't "good"
It's just OK
Doppel is best swordman
Lancer and Murmillo are better on single targets
Fencer is better than Dragoon though
Dragoon exist only for Gae Bulg and Serpentine the boss for all the other Swordamn
Corsair is for farming but worse than Dragoon when it comes to DPS in actual fights
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>>180055565
>not being a Barb3 Dragoon physical support

It's like you don't even want to be a support that deals some damage.
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This is a fine morning to plant Dilgele, and for Fedimian anons to join CoffeeHouse
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>>180055565
>Lancer and Murmillo are better on single targets
This means Lancer and Murmillo are the best swordies then. Dop doesn't have good AOE.
Corsair has better fucking AoE than dop does.
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>>180056956
that anon is a retard
Doppel has probably the second best AoE after Elememe without needing Falcon3 support but it's also better than both lancer and murmillo on single target
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>>180057279
>Doppel has probably the second best AoE after Elememe without needing Falcon3 support
Not even fucking close. Literally any WL2 stomps dop in AOE
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>>180057407
Pretty sure that falconer3, wl2, bokor3 (with damballa), pd2 and more all beat dop in AOE. It isn't that good for it.
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>>180057407
>warlock
>AoE
?
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>>180057587
>chrono casts tree
>WL casts mastema
Suddenly more AoE than doppel's entire kit
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>this is what wandcucks actually believe
LOL, should have rolled a chrono if you wanted to be usefull
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>>180051110
>Alright so you don't play Fencer, got it. Epee Garde's still fine too, and everyone's fucked for evasion now, not just Fencer.

Crit Resist doesn't do much bro. It doesn't let you crit on monsters that don't even have that much crit resist. I barely saw any improvement.

Epee is ok I guess but how are you going to take advantage of it when it barely crits.
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Is it worth maxing Electrocute and Hail?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.1f3f657585.1a3a5a7a85.1a3a4a
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>>180051110
>tfw DEX Pelt w/ evasion gems in boots
>can actually evade with monstrance or monstrance scrolls
>shit evasion literally any other time
feelsbadman
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>>180058206
>10 meteor
>0 rain
reroll
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>>180058295

What do I get then?
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>>180058206
Max hail
14 electrocute
Fuck freezing sphere
Invest in prominence
1 in rain for electrocute bonus
>>180058295
>>180058462
Meteor is fine because surespell
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>>180058504

What about frost cloud?
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>>180058612
I didn't mention it because it's fine
Keep it maxed
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>>180058612
not your only spell anymore but still a strong spell
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>>180058716

So you're suggesting something like this?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.1f3f657585.1e3f415a6184.1a3a4a

Or do you think it's not worth maxing Meteor and shift some points to Prominence?
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Doppel is stronger than literally every other class and does everything better in every way ever.
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>>180059064

>tfw just realize the Pyro passive att

Wew lad. That splash damage chance doesn't sound too bad.
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>>180057972
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=951
Any crit resist removal will be beneficial, and if you can barely crit on that monster regardless then your Crit Rate is the problem, not Balestra Fente.

You won't reach the yellow number flood from before, but you can still crit reliably and significantly. 50% crit is the typical high end now.
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>>180059064
First, do not take points out of frost cloud it's always been one of elememe's best skills
My build is 9 prominence 1 meteor, but I don't have surespell in mine so it's just preference
Increasing meteor levels improves the range plus damage, prominence only increases damage but it doesn't need to charge, pick one or the other but have at least 1 point in both

>>180059314
I know you're a misinfo retard but still
30% chance to do not even basic attack damage, on top of needing the gutted pyro 2 for it
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I want to play Wugushi! It's so bad though. What's a good low CD class that can fill in the long gaps between Wugushi poisons?
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>>180059603
>>180059314

The current pyro 2 is better for that attribute actually, since fireball does like 30-40k hits instead of a bunch of 10-20k hits with agny and like 5-10k hits without, of which only one would count. Plus flare is kind of strong too, doing like 8~10x your matk with attributes so there's actually two pyro things that would cause a worthwhile damage splash and not just meteor anymore. Not that I recommend building for it though. Just drop 1 in ele if you want the attribute and do something with a pyro 3 gudbuild.
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>>180060368
Archer..
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>>180060617
Archer's skills are so bad. Oblique and Twin Shot are so weak, maybe I'm just spoiled by having a Scout C3.

I really hope Mergen C2 gets that 0 CD skill that's currently unused in the game files, even if they put overheat+CD on it, I'm sure it'll still be strong. Then I can do Archer3 Wugu3 Falcon/Scout Mergen2.
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>>180060517
Agny doesn't work like that, we discussed it.
Not to mention both of those are single hits, it's much less powerful than it sounds.
Pyro was gutted into being equal or maybe even worse than cryo, without any of the utility that cryo offers you.
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>>180060992
Should turn Fire Pillar into Fire Tornado and have it do the same thing as Frost Pillar.
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>>180060992
>Agny doesn't work like that, we discussed it.
You didn't read properly. Delete your post and try again.

>Not to mention both of those are single hits
Only the death hit procs the explosion, so it's stronger now. An old fireball would give 80% of 5 or 10k as splash if it kills the enemy. Now a fireball or flare will give 80% of 30k as splash if it kills the enemy. Multi hit was weakening it. Not to mention you can stack fireballs before sending them into the enemy.
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>>180061076
no they need to rework pyro
and instead put thauma at circle2 and put pyro at thaumas current rank
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>>180061261
Agny does not double your damage
Begone misinfo nigger
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>>180061497
You're right. It used to quadruple it.
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>>180061567
Key words here are "used to"
Welcome to post renewal, mister chrono
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>>180061497
>>180061567
And since you're a retard
>The current pyro 2 is better for that attribute actually, since fireball does like 30-40k hits
>CURRENT

>instead
>INSTEAD

>of a bunch of 10-20k hits with agny and like 5-10k hits without,
>A bunch
>You know, like fireball used to do
>Like back before it and agny were changed.
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Why do people ask you to go to another channel while they are DPK farming?

What if I am questing or need the item too? Plus didn't they change up DPK anyways so that it doesn't matter?
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>>180061969
Do not give in to those requests
They just want to farm all by themselves without any competition

The DPK is channel based anyways so everyone is trying to kill as many monsters as fast as possible because they think that it increases their chance at a drop
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>>180061969
People think MMORPG means they're allowed to have maps to themselves. Also yes, it doesn't matter. They probably don't want to to kill steal or something when they swell/link things though.

However this isn't a PVP game, so they can't do shit and you can safely ignore them and kill whatever you want while they have a fit.
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>>180062143
Yeah I generally don't listen, you don't own a channel. Plus there were like 5 others not even in their party on the map, like me leaving would make a difference.
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>>180061721
You don't seem to realize it yet, but the facts still stand that the class is shit, the attribute is shit, none of this matters, and nothing you said is actually correct.
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>180062310
You don't have to beg for (you)s like a slut, you know.
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Missed the first lottery win screen though
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What's better for a bow, red gems or green gems? I just don't like that red gems only raise max atk.
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>>180062143
>The DPK is channel based
It isn't.
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>>180062143
It's map based now
Otherwise wouldn't have dropped 6 of these in less than 90 minutes
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>>180062860
so like, it is cross channel? let's say i'm on channel 8 and you on 1. I could get the dpk even through your efforts?
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>>180062917
Yes
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>>180062917
Exactly. While the anon >>180062860 was lucky, I'm being cucked the past few days trying to farm Green Charog Horns. At least they aren't as expensive as other DPK materials.
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>>180062768
not sure if disinfo or just returning player but:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=985
"Yuri: Ah-ha! I almost forgot that this top-down system is all about counting. Well then, is it bound user-wise? Or map-wise?

Y: It’s a secret but… it's bound map-wise. For example, if there is a monster with 500 DPK on Map Z and User A kills 100 monsters on channel 1 while User B kills 100 monsters on channel 2, both players have a 1/300 chance of an item drop."
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>>180063005
Yesterday i wasn't so lucky, swelled a drop after almost 1000 kills
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>>180063019
That proves it isn't channel based. It's map based.
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>>180062650
Grats bot-chan!
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>>180062258
> you don't own a channel
Here it's where you are wrong
When i farm i OWN the channel
If you don't fuck off when i am thauma swelling farm there is my SR3 geared parked next to my Squire tent and repair station and ready for log in just to Limacon the entire map until you fuck off from my channel
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>>180063184
wops, meant to quote >>180062143
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Is it worth going Alchemist for your first class?
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>Sw1Pelt3Rod2Goon2
or
>Sw1Pelt2Rod3Goon2?
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>>180063496
No
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doppelcuck misinfo strikes again
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>>180063602
But why
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>>180063602
Nigga you what
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>>180063647
I want something all purpose with some boss killing potential.
Pelt3 has armor break and more survivability from higher High Guard and Guardian, but Rod3 just has more attack power.
Goon is there because I don't think Murms are cute.
I know it's ohshitniggerwhatareyoudoing status, but humor me.
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>>180063496
Alch is a crafter dedicated one
I'd say no
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Which crossbow is better for a SR farmer. Isbality or Pevordimas?
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>>180063849
If you were being threatened for your life and being forced to chose one of those 2 then, i would go rod3, you dont really need to concern yourself with survavilitie stuff if you have a decent armor in most situations, pelt and rod really only shine with murm though,
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>>180064472
Your crossbow is a stat stick, get the +crit rate
Ideally you want Regard Crossbow in the end and Aspana
Upgrade the gun but don't bother with the crossbow
Havn't done math yet for the gems though, my SR isn't farm ready yet
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>>180063849
NIGGA YOU WHAT
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What could happend if "x" dpk item need only 1 kill and 2 people (both in different channels) kill the mob at the same time? :O
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>>180065274
the first dying in ms difference drop the DPK
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>>179993385
Sorry the over 12 hour delay, but let me get back to you. In raw numbers, and you're counting the number of amplified skills alone, Pelt3 has more potential damage than any other variant by virtue of Cassis Crista. But ask yourself:

Can you dump all your pelt plus rod skills before your murm skills cools down again? Hop2 offers you exactly one active damage skill you can use as a murm, but also offers you buff skills that augment your already existing murm skills, and murm skills are always prioritized over pelt/rods skills.

Back then, Armorbreak was a yuge thing as how damage mitigation works, damage vs defense before damage amplification, making exponentially useful on higher defense enemies. But with the current damage calculation, the same damage calculation which lets my lvl269 squire survive in r8 maps for quite an adequate time without exploding, raw defenses are not as useful anymore since the returns will be diminishing and you won't ever reduce your damage to double digits.

Plus, what are you even going to target with armor break to make it worthwhile? A boss? Pfah, get a highlander goon to do the job, that's what they're supposed to do.

tl;dr pelt3 is skill clutter and wasted potential, only good thing about it is guardian 15.
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Will Cannon3 save it?
Will Musket3 save it?
Will Mergen2 save it?
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>>180067210
What a retard
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Has anyone seen a website phyical merchandise for that game? I quitted and definitely never will come back but the art style was always great.

Looking for something like a Zemnya statue or so
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>>180068201
There was a cafe in Korea that made these fantastic statues...but nothing overseas.
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Should I add dex as a wannabe murm?
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>>180068328
Nice, thats exactly what Im looking for
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>>180068767
Here, I found everything we can be jealous of again.
https://twitter.com/Cafe_Reissue/status/854989190374711297
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>>180068474
what build? Murm stats are build specific.
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>>180069576
sword1/pelta2/rode3/naruto/murm
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>>180069676
Are you a baka? Naruto murms are high2 or sw3. Or hop1 since I believe syncro is copy-able.

Either way, baka or not, naruto murms are dex. Lots of dex.
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>>180070009
Synchro is copy-able, yes.
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When are they gonna add a samurai or ronin class for the archers?
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>>180069676
>>180070009
And if you wanted to be a naruto, you should've gone Zabuza with sw3high2 X dop1nobi.
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Just started playing and I was looking to go to dragoon since I wanted to play spear so I'm not sure what to do since everyone said the guide I was following was trash >>179964739 this guy right here. When does gear start to get important cause 0.5% drop rate for recipe is bullshit especially since I'm around level 60
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Aside from max Kunai and Bunshin, where should the rest of my points go in Shinobi?
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>>180070117
>0.5% drop rate for recipe is bullshit
Yeah that is kinda high. It should be 0.2%.
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>>180070143
I've been seeing people max Katon because it can potentially hit 3 times and the damage output on it is pretty big. However if you just want it more for utility just put maybe 4 points and 1 into Mokuton or however you please.
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>>180070264
Do either explosion skill copy with clones?
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Since skills are shit now, they should let skill gems level up. Keep the skill cap at 20, but you can go 1 point in a skill and get it to 11, go 10 and get it to 20, go 15 and only need a level 5 gem.
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>>180070446
Nope, only Kunai.
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>>180071626
;_;
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>>180068328
>shilling this much for a dead game
Asians are a special kind of autistic
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>>180071463
>whale a rainbow build full of C1s enabled by gems
That sounds hilarious
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>>180072515
Gem slots are limited though
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>7k+ dpk for a collection item
Fuck this shit man.
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>>180072669
honestly doesnt take that long if you dedicate a few hours to it
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>>180074136
That's not possible without doing it on purpose using awakenings. Nothing to lol about.
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>>180074136
We have jtos players?
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>>180074227
It's possible if the person is dumb enough to awaken without stones.
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>>180074227
Shields can fail at +4 you idiot.
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>>180074340
But to +3 is always successful. There's no reason it can't be at +3.
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>>180074442
>+3
>fail +4
>drop at +2
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>>180074478
Then upgrade it again. Why are you presenting it as if it's stuck there with no chance for improvement and no slots open? Come back when it's 0 potent and slot unlocked
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>>180074550
>Then upgrade it again
So fucking what?
+2 at 1 potential left is clearly possible
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>>180074606
Only by intentionally leaving it there.
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>>180074791
>That's not possible without doing it on purpose using awakenings
Still no awakenings needed
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>>180074550
He isn't, you retard. He's presenting it as-is and you're making up some story because you can't admit you were wrong. If you want a screenshot at 0 potential, go make one yourself.
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Should I give a pet 5 hammers in the weapon slots?
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>>180075003
>lel.jpg
He's presenting it as if it's anything humorous or interesting when it's fucking nothing
>>
>>180075316
>eating through 11-12 potential just to end up at +2 is nothing
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>>180075316
It's a +2 orange weapon with 1 potential left and no open sockets.
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>>180075384
It only has one socket to begin with and golden anvils are a thing. There's literally nothing wrong with it and keeping it at +2 is just trying to make it look worse than it is, even if golden anvils weren't a thing.
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>>180075597
>>180075384
>It's a +2 orange weapon
Also it's not a weapon.
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>>180074274
I play on jtos
Got too late for leveling event in itos but event here is a week late so I hopped in
ping is more or less the same with klaipeda
>>
>>180075196
Do pets even get the stats from gems? Thought it was just the raw stats.
>>
>>180075947
I don't know. I'm inexperienced with pets.
>>
Are monks expensive to fund? If I'm a first time player would it be a good starting class?
>>
It's a "3 clerics in party but none of them know how to heal" episode!

(All of them PD of course.)
>>
Did enemies get HP buffed last patch or does everyone high level have shit gear or what? Did everyone make a bunch of alts and forget to give them anything to fight with and that's why runs are taking longer than they have been?
>>
>>180078447
>Did everyone make a bunch of alts and forget to give them anything to fight with
Mostly that, people level up crazy fast with the event + compensation stuff.
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>>180078447
Their [EVENT] gear expired maybe.
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Come and do Saalus with us on Fedimian!
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>>180079443
>Saalus
That's so r7
>>
Which goddess gives the best Paizuri? Alternatively, which goddess is the best lay in general?
>>
You know, I liked those elite mobs better when they were only in HG and not fucking annoying with spreading their status ailments.
>>
>>180079443
>doing saalus when shards are going less than 100k
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>>180080180
>not saving blessed gems for your orange weapon
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>>180067210
puffy
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>>180079443
I want to hoing your guild but sadly i play on klaipo server of dead people...
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>>180081298
>Fedimian
>more alive than Klaipeda
>>
Can anyone tell me the difference between blue hg and purple pract weapons? I did see the pastebin, but isn't there more to it? Like anvil upgrade differences, maybe transcendence numbers? It doesn't seem worth it to farm for pract if the damage is the same.
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>>180081619
Purple is higher Quality = stronger anvil enchantment, more transcendence gems required (same added dmg%)
They also have more and better sub stats then blues. And more base attack.

Overall a lot more damage.
>>
>>180081619
Blue have less base stat and usually less/worse secondary stats.
Anvil enhancement scales with color now, just go to tos.neet and check yourself, there's a new enhancement section now in an item page.
>>
Wait, is the Swell Brain attribute seriously a % thing or is that a typo?
>>
>>180083454
Oh, looks like a typo. It increase the "Additional Magic Attack:"
>>
Stopped playing a little over six months ago, and is the game still shit?
>>
>>180083768
yes. maybe less shit, but still shit fun game
>>
>>180083768
Same shit
Saalus all day, Uphill every day, same ET every day and DPK:shared between all channels edition, enjoy farming on ch2 for 2 hours just so some fag in ch3 get the loot and reset the counter for you too
Also, now ToS is a P2W game, who ever say different bought lots of leticia cubes and enjoyed their Diamon Anvil and lv10 Gem Abbrasives, same gatcha is comming back soon with 315 orange weapons inside
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>>180081796
>>180081890
I see! Thank you.
>>
>>180081796
>Overall a little more damage for alot more investment
Fixed that for you my friendo
>>
>>180084904
If you are poor and want to stay weak.. sure, go ahead.

Blue's are ok for alts tho.
>>
>>180083636
Hmmm, then that attribute is way too expensive for something that'll only give you a good raise if you're full SPR, and full SPR would only really work well if you're also Linker 3, pretty much dictating 3/4 of your entire build.
>>
>>180085276
Its only 6m and you are full support anyways, so you got no dmg% attributes to spend like a hundred million on...
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>>180084360
How come there aren't any good private servers for ToS yet
>>
>>180085701
But the iToS server are managed like a low quality private server
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>>180085276
If you're full spr, you can go sorc and wait for the summon damage patch.
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>>180085701
I hope one gets made so I can see you complain about how shit it is here. None of the players could make a better game with their retarded ideas.
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>>180085910
It'll be great anon.
Just add the admin on skype, send him a few $ and he'll do patches for you and give you items.
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>>180085910
I thought that when people started this meme back on iCBT. But after all these patches and shitstorms, you'd literally have to be handicapped to think anyone could manage this game worse than it already is.
>>
Should I play this game again anon?
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>>180086356
ahahahaha
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>>180086356
Play what you want!
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>>180086243
Son, this game doesn't even have back wings yet.
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How to build int PD2?
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>>180086884
cleric 2 diev 1 sadhu3 PD2
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>>180086921
I meant skills
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>>180086884
C2Priest3ChapPD2

>>180086996
Max Heal. Careful with Cure, it scales badly with MATK now.

Max Aspersion for Max Aspergillium damage
High Mass Heal, high Revive, High Resu. Zero Bless, Zero Sacrament, Zero Stone Skin
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I'm new. What is a good class combo or whatever to make shekels?
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>>180087115
wizard 2 link 2 thaum 2 FF2
it will be a pain in the ass to level though
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>>180087115
SUCC
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>>180086356
If you're masochist then yes
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>>180080060
>best Paizuri
Lada
>best lay in general
Gabija
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>>180087106
I want PD skill distribution, not generic chaplain.
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>>180087115
The goy way:
Schwarzer Reiter build for farming low level dungeon for good silver
or
Wiz2Linker2Thauma2FF2 to farm high level monsters for double drops to sell them

The chosen way:
Necro afk farmer (best if used on multiple alt accounts)
or
Full Spr Shop Pardoner with an alt account to give yourself transmit prana for high blessings and expenseive prices
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>>180087329
>>180087329
>>180087329
>>
>>180087115
Wiz2Link2Thauma2FF2 most optimal thauma variant for double loots, almost no gear required for work
Cleric2XSaddhu3PD2 for gas the kikes AIDS pandemic entire map, the better the gear the better
Archer2XAppraiser1SR3 for kill fast run fast cuck the world (WARNING: Needs really good gear for actually works)
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>>180087282
Max HFactor
Max Steam
5 Pandemic
5 Incineration
4 Bloodletting
1 Fumigate

Feel free to remove Bloodletting for Beak Mask
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>>180087549
>5 incineration
triggered
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>>180087549
Thanks.
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>>180087549
>Max HFactor
>5 Incineration
What the fuck are you doing?
>>
Can I still save my archer by doing this now?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3115533aa

I fucked up my build since I was going to go musket but my friends in game and irl that has one all said to not go for it since I'll be wasting time and effort for a subpar class. Re-rolling is not really an option since I've already spent 2 weeks on it and I'd rather have a semi gimped out build then just wait for the reset event for r9 in the next few months.
>>
New

>>180088485
>>180088485
>>180088485
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>>180085910
Well some RO private servers have been better than retail, at least as long as they have functioned.
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>>180086641
Is that your main problem with pservers.

really.

this shit has fucking animu school costumes.

and your problem are wings.

ok.
>>
>>180088791
I don't have a problem with private servers. None of the people who have suggested anything have made any good suggestions though. I don't even know what people think P. Servers would do with the game except mod the characters and enemies and make dumb outfits though. They'd just take whatever the update the main game did and implement it and then adjust retarded values into it.

>this shit has fucking animu school costumes.
So does Granado Espada.

This game also has a lot of anachronistic things, like musketeers alongside ancient roman gladiators alongside medieval warriors alongside "Victorian" outfits imported from GE. There isn't just "the past" and "modern day." None of that shit fits together.
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>>180064505
>pelt and rod really only shine with murm though
Not true.
They also shine with Shinobi. Fortunately, however, you can use both Shinobi AND Murm with them in a build. It's pretty great.
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