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YGO General #2535
Crawling In My Skin Edition
Last Thread: >>179560187


New mechanic, Link Summoning: https://ygorganization.com/ekisotorarinkuexclamationpoint/

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/nlcz47swc8bl4af/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/6vvclua195urlb9/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.dmg
>High Quality YGOPro Images: https://mega.nz/#F!3xRSSZLD!n5HAXjFTVV8g-ha3I_5SsA
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017
● Duelingbook is a manual simulator
https://www.duelingbook.com/

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
>Official /dng/ ruling test: https://testmoz.com/466984
>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator: http://yugioh.party/
>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market: http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Cyverse Link Structure Deck (June 17th)
●OCG: Circuit Break (July 8th)
●OCG: Deck Build Pack: Spirit Warriors (August 11st)
●OCG: Extra Pack 2017 (September 9th)
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Surge of Divine Radiance (September 23rd)
●OCG: Extreme Force (October 14th)

●TCG: Pendulum Evolution (June 23rd)
●TCG: Battles of Legend: Light's Revenge (July 7th)
●TCG: Starter Deck: Link Strike (July 21st)
●TCG: Code of Duelist (August 4th)
●TCG: 2017 Mega-Tins (August 25th)
●TCG: Legendary Duelists (September 8th)
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>Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Tag Force 4 Bundles
what
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Think the new Six Samurai support will have any new spells/traps, or will it be like Fluffals in Fusion Enforcers and only have a few new cards?
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Reminder that people will want to fuck anything, even clouds
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Would you tune her?
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>>179749885
Wat
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>>179750007
Hopefully they will.
>See new SixSam support
>Get hyped because of the fusion.
>They're all shit.
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>>179750007
>Warriors
>Banish
>Contact Fusion
What other archetypes/decks will be in Spirit Warriors?
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>>179750007
Six Samurai will get a new Synchro Tuner.
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>>179750505
All of the Booster SP sets except Secret Forces had two archetypes from the anime, and then 1 that was new or at least exclusive to the physical card game. But I don't think Six Samurais have ever appeared in the anime, so I think Deck Build Packs are going off of a new formula.
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>>179750362
>child-bearing hips
>a shapeshifter
>a MOTHERFUCKING SHAPESHIFTER

Why the hell wouldn't I?
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Also Altergeist

Since these are all cards from the upcoming V-jump is there going to be anything new left in the V-jump besides the next promo?
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I wonder how else are these shits going to top
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>>179751407
This is about the size of regular V Jump reveals isn't it? Maybe if we're lucky they will show a card or two from the new fairy structure deck.
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it's cardfu time again
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>>179751808
>inb4 cthuga poster
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>>179751285
i can think of one reason
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>>179751808
Until the day Bullhorn gets banned, i'm going to enjoy this
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Alright Extra Deck scum and Main Deck peasants, what summoning method would your country be known for using? I'll begin:

>America
Probably Synchro scrubs

If I had to guess other regions, I'd probably say Europoors are Xyz scum while Muslims are Fusion scum, Asians use Links, Latin America is Ritual cucks, Africans are Tribute plebs, and Aussies are Pendulum peasants. Maybe only world travelers and globalists use Pendulums
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I'm glad I didn't sell my old Six Samurai deck.
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story time
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Getting back to fucking with ygopro again, what is the returning newbie deck for faggots like me?
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>>179752542
Dinosaurs
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>>179752420
>Muslims
They play Inferno Tempest with D.D. Dynamite for the kill
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>>179752530
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>>179752420
>America is synchro
And the white country is full of BLACKwings
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>>179751808
Well ok
>>179752530
There should be a final card for his freedom, that also explains how did he get erratad?
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>>179753076
>America is synchro
>Blackwings are the only archetype to get constant support
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If you kept everything about Links the way they are except make Link Summons, and ONLY link summons hard OPT
Would that fix the game a bit or break it harder?
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>>179753598
as in make it so you can only link summon once per turn? that'd make links the worst summoning mechanic and make every link deck worthless
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>>179752420
Latin America is the real Synchro, because we live in a real Old Satellite District and we use shit vanilla cards too.

America are Xyz/Links topsies with the flavor of the month meta deck.
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>>179753546
>America is Synchro
>The strongest synchro deck is called Dark Synchro
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>>179753774
every single synchro deck is already worthless so it's 1 for 1
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>>179752678
Don't forget their ace monster.
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>>179753943
>every single synchro deck is already worthless
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>>179754101
Are any of these cards relevant anymore?
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>>179754345
>Synchro deck
>Posts a single monster
>The best way to summon it is just adding like 9 cards in the maindeck and the rest is whatever the fuck it wants.
Small time whitey that also dies to THE LIGHTNING BABY, and THE LIGHTNING BABY, is a black card. Checkmate america
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>>179754345
Did I stutter?
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>>179754481
Dark Grepher is used in Dark Synchro. D Fissure is useful for decks that don't give a fuck about the graveyard.
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>>179754345
Holy fuck this game is broken
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>>179754546
>The Lightning
*blocks your path*
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>>179754481
warrior lady might but after the contract, cancellation, and kingdom being overthrown its unknown on her status
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>>179754101
Unexpected Dai, Dark Grepher and D. Fissure are still relevant from time to time. RFTDD would be if it wasn't banned
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>>179754546
>9 cards in the main deck
have you ever seen a windwitch invoked deck?
>>179754553
windwitch invoked is meta in the ocg
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>>179754831
Damn, that's a powerful effect. He seems like a bitch to summon though, especially in Link format.
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When will he be freed?
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>>179755037
Nips already figured out how to summon Quasar with Links, I'm sure a dedicated Junk/Synchron deck could do it easy
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>>179755241
I don't know but I hope soon. Because if he does, I will have more chances to play Herald of the Arc Light
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>>179754979
>3 snow 2 glass 1 snow at the very very very least
>Implying invoked are synchro
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>>179754979
>Mainly fusions with one synchro (and the one or two or whatever it is that are only used to summon Crystal Wing)
>Synchro deck
u wot m8
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>>179755485
>implying windwitch invoked isn't a synchro deck
part of the reason the deck even works is because of the synchro part idiot
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>>179755680
>WWE is synchro deck!
>Only runs winterbell and crystal wing in the extra while the rest are the invoked fusions and xyz toolbox
And no, the only reason the deck works is the artifacts, specially scythe's bitchass
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>>179755810
Why have all of it's recent tops run Kaijus instead of Artifacts, then?
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>>179755810
You're right, WWE is a link deck.
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>>179755590
On average, they run about 4-5 synchros though.

>>179755810
>Only reason the deck works is the artifacts
Ah yes, that's the reason why windwitches are topping in OCGland. Oh wait, no, artifacts got dropped while the WW engine started mixing in with dracos and trickstars.
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>>179753142
>yugioh card lore ever ending well
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>six spams get new support
>it all looks like and is shit
Don't know why I hoped otherwise when 95% of all nostalgia shit follows that rule
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>>179757661
>what is DT with Avance and Emilia, they always survives at the very end and proceed to distress by fucking until they had a child and probably still fuck
>what is Spellbooks winning
>what is the adventures of Alchemic and Downerd
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>>179751808
I want more archfiends
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>>179762124
we gx so you might get a chance
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>>179762253
I hope so.

It would be nice
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>>179760783
I'm just glad GX era stuff is getting love. DM has been shoved down everyone's throats for like the past 3 years. The TCG is even getting shitty Yugi and Kaiba products this fall.
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>>179762124
>Never got our pendulum Arcfiends
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>>179762361
>ritual got cucked again with pendulum
Why I am still here?
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>>179762954
At least we got one
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>>179763146
mieru's dream
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>>179760783
I mean there is still the Wind and Dark samurais unrevealed even though there isn't much to look forward to if they're like Kizaru.
>Attack doesn't match any other samurai for Asceticism
>Has to be special summoned to search
>Can't search monsters with attributes you control
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>>179763146
I do wish Rituals got something going. Its like Konami forgot the entire mechanic
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>>179763180
I got a question.
How do you usually both Tour Guide and Ecccentric in one deck that is not a Pendulum? I mean, doesn't Tour Guide negate the effects of the monster summoned?
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>>179763146
>tfw still no Pendulum Monster whose Pendulum effect is being able to treat itself as a Ritual Spell Card
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>>179763558
You're already getting a new TCG exclusive Ritual and Ritual monsters and some support have been appearing in the packs during the Arc-V era, maybe its (You) who forgot the entire mechanic if you're ignoring all of them
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Full Cyberse Link Checklist if anyone cares.

Digitron
Dot Scaper
Kleinant
Back Linker
Balancer Lord
ROM Cloudia
Boot Stagguard
Dual Assembloom
Tragoedia
Summon Priest
White Dragon Wyverburster
Black Dragon Collapserpent
Card Trooper
Debris Dragon
Mathematician
Cranecrane
Morphing Jar
Magician of Faith
Treeborn Frog
Jester Confit
Glow-Up Bulb
Kinka-byo

Cynet Backdoor
Soul Charge
Shuffle Reborn
D.D.R. – Different Dimension Reincarnation
Gold Sarcophagus
Mind Control
Cosmic Cyclone
Moon Mirror Shield
Where Arf Thou?

Recoded Alive
Miracle’s Wake
Powerful Rebirth
Premature Return
Swap Mirrorer
Quantum Cat
Storming Mirror Force
Dimensional Barrier
Solemn Strike

Encode Talker
Trigate Wizard
Binal Sorceress
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>>179763743
I think people mostly use them for XYZ plays.

What if Konami brought tour guide back to 3
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>>179763180
Awesome techs in Metalfoes
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>>179762361
>>179763558
Hey, at least you got Ariel retrain.
>>179763146
>Why I am still here?
Because your love for this game is bigger than your hatred for Konami.
>>179763753
That would be cool.
>>179763883
Wait, are you implying that it's more than one TCG Ritual exclusive?
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>>179764005
Seriously, Cosmic Cyclone, Solemn Strike and Dimensional Barrier all in the same SD?

Konami must be getting desperate to push Links
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>>179764007
>1 less tribute
>not without tributing and treated as if it was tributed
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>>179764005
>have to wait for this to get Trigate, the only Link so far that does anything other than Firewall
>probably will get delayed or something dumb
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>>179764005
why do this
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>>179764005
>Jester
>Glow Up Bulb
>Kinka
>Soul Charge
>Cosmic Cyclone
>D. Barrier
>Strike

Jesus fuck that's a lot of value for $10.
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>>179764035
>Wait, are you implying that it's more than one TCG Ritual exclusive?
We don't know yet. It could be a TCG exclusive Ritual archetype since so far Konami hasn't said anything about what TCG exclusive archetypes Code of the Duelist will start.
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Train stuff is pretty cool.
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>>179764721
Well, there is only one way to find out, and is waiting.
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>>179764591
Don't forget the Mirror Force and Arf
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>>179764591
>>179764005
>yfw Tewart decides to chop this up into a booster set like Pendulum Evolution and make all the money cards secret rares
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>>179764880
That's the best outcome, but the most probably one it's replace them with shit that everyone have and very shitty versions of those cards instead.
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>>179752420
argentina is synchro, argentina is white
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Poster
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>>179765198
Nothing new
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>>179765198
Would rather see Spirit Warriors to know the second old archetype.
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>>179763743
Tour Guide + anything is usually for XYZ. There are other things you can do though. For instance; back in the day, you would use tour guide to summon tour guide, summon genex ally birdman from hand and add the second tour guide to hand, and then either go into a rank 3 or an easy synchro play; at that time, probably brionac.
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>>179764972
Argentina is DARK synhro
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>>179764972
So, it's good? Because I think that Synchro is good and the only reason they are not relevant is because Konami hates them.
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>>179763743
Her old buddy Sangan of course!
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>>179764751
It was balanced until it became Draw 2 Cards For Every Rank 10: The Card.
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>>179765658
Forgot pic.
>>179764007
>if TGU went to three
Then I'd have to buy 2 more Ultis, at probably $50-60 each. I can't afford that.
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>>179762793
I'm just waiting for them to dip into the huge potential that is HERO retrains and making fusions thay didn't exist before
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>>179765658
>>179765716

Dont you mean "Draw 2 for every Gustav Max" the card
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>>179765626
There's a contradiction in your logic.
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>>179765626
>Synchro monsters are, pound for pound, stronger than Xyz and Fusion
>Their method is inherently stronger than Fusion and Xyz because it sets up your graveyard and doesn't require a superfluous spell
>Can be masturbated for the strongest boards in the game

They were a victim of their own strength. Konami had to nerf them and make shitty archetypes forever because the alternative is to make them TOO good.
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>>179765817
If you can get a Rank 10 while you have that card, why would you not summon Gustav Max at that point? When the choice is between using Pot of Greed or not, there is no choice.
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>>179765626
yeah, jews control the country
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>>179766027
How many Rank 10 XYZ are there anyway?
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>>179765916
>The alternative is to make them too good
Then do that. Synchro's inherently more fun than the other methods. There's no loss to be had.
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>>179765916
Xyz can set up the grave and be strong too, to be fair. More importantly though, that genericness can't be topped.
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>>179765760
I've been saying since the set's name was revealed that being called Spirit Warriors gave me hope that Neos would finally get support. Six Sams being in the set meaning it isn't about Spirit monsters and getting a Contact Fusion makes me even more hopefully.
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>>179766129
The spiders can rank up each other, gustav, dora, skypalace gandari, galaxy destroyer are the only relevant ones
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>>179766372
Good and fun aren't one in the same. Also, that's subjective.
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see u in 5 hs
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>>179751808
see >>179752238
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>>179766676
They were during 2011.
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>>179766571
I suppose it would be interesting to see the stupid shit they could do with Neos.
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>>179767006
>YES KONAMI, GIVE NEOS MORE TRASH CARDS, KEEP WASTING CARDBOARD ON WORTHLESS SHIT
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>>179766642
Cool, So would more Rank 10/Level 10 stuff be good for the game?
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>>179767203
They're going to do that regardless.
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>>179767203
I'd rather it be Neos than Altergeists/Crawlers
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>>179765198
>Yusaku
This really burns me up, this is a booster set and yet they use Yusaku for the cover card poster even throug that monster does not belong to him? That's like Yuya being with Astrograph Magician
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>>179766372
Right? I had such high hopes for Crystrons. I love WATER monsters, I love Synchro, and I love machines. Never have I been so cucked before.
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>>179768208
What? They're plenty fun.
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>>179768338
Anon, they're... they're shit. Worse than Fluffals and Infernoids.
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>>179768338
The issue is: They aren't any good. That inherently limits the amount of fun you can have with them since you'll be getting knocked on your ass 8 times out of 10.
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>>179768442
I know that full well. They're still fun.

>>179768458
Fair enough, I guess.
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>>179768442
>>179768458
Are we playing the same archtype?
Crystrons don't lose if they go first. It's uphill if you go second, but that's why you run board clear.
t. someone with three regional tops with Crystrons.
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>>179768442
Crystrons are kinda shitty for the most part but nigga, if they go off they go off. They put blue cat's floating to shame, i kept swinging with Panther Dancer and the fucker kept synchro summoning on my turn until he eventually made the synchro that puts everyone in defense.
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>>179768703
How badly do you actually need Scrap Recycler? And what are the truly important synchros to pack?
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>>179766372
Agreed. I wish Konami didn't make the much more boring mechanic of XYZs the more meta relevant and broken monster type.
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>>179764880
That just might happen, considering how many new cards are also in it
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>play against Machine deck
>use their monsters for my fusion
What was konami smoking?
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>>179768208
>>179768442
You are bad at games.
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>>179769313
Xyz are pretty fun
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How the fuck do you people think one deck is more 'fun' than another
It's just playing cards
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>>179770049
u wot
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>>179770049
Because they can handle differently from one another?
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>>179770049
Some decks require you to play cards in specific ways
Some people prefer to play cards in specific ways
These decks will be more enjoyable to these people
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>>179770049
Different playstyles? That's like saying every movie is of equal quality because it's just edited footage
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>>179770049
>>179770232
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How can someone become the strongest duelist of all time?

And when the hell is YGOPro getting the Links update?
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What is the strangest deck you've ever made?
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Link In-Flyer
Wind Cyberse / Effect
LV2 0/1800
You can only Special Summon 1 card with this card’s name with the written in its (1) effect per turn.
(1) You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) to a Link Monster’s Link Point on your field.

Security Block
Spell Quick-Play
(1) Target 1 Cyberse monster on the field; that monster cannot be destroyed by battle, also neither player takes battle damage. These changes last until the end of this turn.

Cyberse Beacon
Trap Normal
You can only activate 1 card with this card’s name per turn.
(1) If you took battle damage or effect damage from an opponent’s card effect this turn: Add 1 Level 4 or lower Cyberse monster from your Deck to your hand.
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>>179771128
By constantly buying the current #1 meta deck, memorizing what to do in a given situation, and being lucky
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>>179771128
Only by winning worlds 3 times in a row, beating takahashi, and physically transferring into the anime to defeat yugi can you become the greatest duelist of all time.
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>>179771128
study Shunsuke Hiyama
read Patrick "20hrs" Hoban's book
> pic and a jp vhs tape too
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>>179771128
You do it by working out 7 days a week to fully optimize the blood that gets to your brain and eat right, to eventually gain a size that can intimidate 40% of the good players and distract some other 30%. With that fact alone you would have come closer to your vision. Then you play ygopro everyday you have a chance, 7 hours minimum. Always attend locals during the week. Always attend regionals in your state if possible. Always travel to the YCS events every month.

And win.
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>>179771468
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>>179771468
Thanks for the pack filler Yusaku
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>>179771998
>Cyberse Beacon
Trap Normal
You can only activate 1 card with this card’s name per turn.
(1) If you took battle damage or effect damage from an opponent’s card effect this turn: Add 1 Level 4 or lower Cyberse monster from your Deck to your hand.
He is definitely going to use this against Aoi.
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>>179769313
Multi-rank Xyz decks tend to be the most fun. Problem is the only relevant Rank will always be 4.
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>>179772209
>Multi-rank Xyz decks tend to be the most fun
?
Also, 8 could have been relevant if they tried hard enough
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>>179771128
It's already been said that the reason Lilnks aren't on Ygopro is because Percy is trying to see how to make them work without the new extra deck nerf, once he gets that figured out he'll be updating ygopro with traditional, which will be these format and the master rule 4 format which has the current game rules. Well that and the nips won't share their code for Links making it hard to adapt it from scratch
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>>179770278
>>179770340
>>179770457
Autism
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sekrit Crawlers tech
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>>179772882
That's the opposite of autism, actually.
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>>179772882
>different things play differently
>>autism
you are the autist desu
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This must have been a fun meta
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>>179773951
You never played in it? How?
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>>179768703
Crystrons tend to get a bad name due to three things
>First, Being the only Neo Draco story deck that wasn't meta relevant
>Second, High skill ceiling despite suffering from #1.
>and third, it's restrictions, playstyle, and summoning method
It's mostly #2 since the deck is very hard to play for those who treat it as your typical synchro spam/climb deck.
>>179771468
>1 slot after Security block
>2 between Beacon and the Altergeist normal trap
So we're 100% getting that high level Trickstar but the 2 traps and the 1 spell can be either Vullet, Trickstar or Gouki.
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>>179772882
>says some stupid shit
>gets called out for it
>wow you g-guys are so autistic
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>>179774129
>the 1 spell can be either Vullet, Trickstar or Gouki.
This is in the preview for next week's episode, so probably Trickstar.
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>TCGplayer changed their layout
For what purpose
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Tune Magician is in Pendulum Evolution
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=8231
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>>179772209
Rank 7 tore the game a new asshole in 2013 when LTGY dropped.
Rank 8 was relevant just last year when Blue-Eyes ft. Titanic Galaxy ;) ruled.
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>>179776713
>filenameguy back
nice
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>dimension box wind watch imported
>tune magician import confirmed today
>no frightfur patchwork. Will be irrelevant post-links

Is there any yuri tuber more btfo than dzeef?
Now I don't need to see his BA Frightfur videos in my recommended lists any more.
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How is deque
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>>179776713
>>179776960
TEWARDDDDD
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>>179777657
>Hot Red instead of Scarlight
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>>179774381
That's one down. Worse case scenario, Yusaku gets another trap so it comes down to only Vullet or Gouki for that last slot.

I can't really picture Trickstars getting another card this set tbqh
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>>179777657
shit
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Hey I'm coming back after a two year break. What should i know
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>>179778645
Most decks run spam engines that make broken, difficult to remove monster and run backrow and hand traps that stop the opponent from playing Yugioh.
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>>179774129
>Being the only Neo Draco story deck that wasn't meta relevant
Crystron did had some tops but i agree with the third reason, Crystrons are stupidly restricted and despite Machine-type being one, if not the most powerful monster type in the entire game having a stupidly shitty Synchro monster line-up, Crystrons only have access to the stupid shit, you could imagine something like an archetype that did Synchros on the opponent's turn could've been top tier shit but they ruined it with the "synchro summon a MACHINE-TYPE synchro", on top of having mediocre synchros, phoenixion is like the BEST crystron synchro but he needs too much and best of luck summoning him after Master Rule 4 hits.

Its a shame really, Metalfoes are a Pendulum engine that you could splash in any deck, Zoodiacs are an Xyz engine that you could splash in any deck, now if only Crystrons were a Synchro engine that you could splash anywhere.
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>>179772879
>Lilnks aren't on Ygopro is because Percy is trying to see how to make them work without the new extra deck nerf,
Not all heroes wear capes
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>>179778890
I mean, it's any machine-type synchro, but you can use any monster at all for it. It's like BW for zoods.
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>>179778890
perhaps one day konami will stop having a hate boner towards synchros. one day...
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>>179778890
The restriction isn't too hard to play around. Those tops were in very small groups, though. Also, Quarion is better
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>>179779073
The best support Crystron could get, IF ANY. Could be making more Machine synchros, i mean we got Vemillion Mech as TCG exclusive on INOV, this felt like indirect support imo. If more machine-type synchros are made and they're good, then Crystron might not be so dead i guess?
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>>179779292
They just need good 6, 7, and 8 synchros
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>>179779209
>hate boner towards synchros
Look at the entirely of Dark Synchro, Wind Witches, Thesus and hell, the fact that Blazar is like a stronger Omni-negator than quasar, Konami has an equal hateboner for any summoning type except maybe Xyz but outside of R4nk, what else there is?
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>>179779292
Yep. It's also recycling with the 3tuner. Anything that wants to be used as a synchro material also benefits from them.
The non-tuners locking non-machine-synchro ED summons is ass though.
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>>179779512
They also need more spells, and i mean SPELLS because Entry should've been a fucking spell and the field spell should've been searchable by the tiger thing. Hell you could give them an archetypal Foolish Burial (Goods)
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>>179778890
>on top of having mediocre synchros
Only terrible Crystron synchro is Ametrix
>phoenixion is like the BEST crystron synchro
Gliongandr is useful in more situations than Phoenix while being easier to summon. If anything he's the best Crystron synch
>and best of luck summoning him after Master Rule 4 hits.
At least it's a three card combo..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_g7JbgGbIM
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>>179780642
>At least it's a three card combo
The petdeck struggles when your best plays are 2 or 3 card combos. Good video though
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>>179781640
And before someone takes my post in the wrong way since everything's obviously 2card combos and shit, i'm talking in Comeback/breakthrough abilities, if your deck needs a 2-card combo to go win or do some big plays, its going to be painful to work around disruptions unless your plays got disrupted in a way that doesn't stop you from hitting the opponent's face or in the case you dumped your entire hand to do a big board and you just get your entire board rectumized by whatever shit, it will feel nearly impossible to make a comeback with a single card and said card doesn't get negated.
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How come this face-sitting bitch got uncensored in the TCG but lunalight wolf got a larger skirt so there's no pantsu?
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>>179772484
A deck which can spam any rank
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>>179783607
So GaGaGa?
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>>179783372
Why was she only a super in TCG?
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>>179783921
Why was Panther an Ultra bothers me a lot more than that. Besides, up until Kaleido Chick's release, summoning Leo Dancer was suicide so i guess she's not as versatile as Panther but still, why the fuck is Panther an Ultra?
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>>179782472
Mate, are you still trapped in Zoodiac hell or something?
Needing 2-card combo to win or make big play is common even for meta deck. ABC case in point.

Just live with the disruption and don't overextend.
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>>179768442
worse than fluffals for sure but nfernoids are tier 1
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>>179791179

>0 tops in the last major event
>tier 1
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>>179771502
fuck off duel link shitter
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>>179792643
Ih yeah, i forget ash and banlist happened, im glad they was hard to deal for me.
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Don't die kthnx
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>>179778890
>best of luck summoning him after Master Rule 4 hits
I don't understand retards that say this
Hey, you already have 2+ monsters to synchro with on the board. What if instead of going into whatever shitty synchro, you just, I don't fucking no, go into a Link monster that has literally the same summoning condition? What a radical fucking idea, using your board to make an extra deck monster instead of an extra deck monster.
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>>179795726
There's 3 factor.
>Link monster is shit (currently)
>you can't link on opponent's turn
>crystron have some serious restriction on your turn
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>>179796101
>Link monster is shit (currently)
Decode and Firewall are solid, and it's not like you're just sitting on a Decode and passing. It lets you summon two more synchro/xyz/pendulum monsters. Do that.

>>you can't link on opponent's turn
I wasn't talking about just Crystrons, but you can just Decode on your turn and synchro on theirs. Not that that matters too much since half the time you're just going into BRD.

>crystron have some serious restriction on your turn
This only happens if you use the first effect on your non-tuner Crystron monsters, so you could just not do that. Sulfenir pitching Rosenix gives you two monsters on the field without eating your normal summon, for an example of a play.

But I wasn't just talking about Crystrons.
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>>179796383
>Decode and Firewall are solid
Not as solid as, let's say, Clear Wing.
And Clear Wing can be made with less resource.
>It lets you summon two more synchro/xyz/pendulum monsters. Do that.
Most deck struggle to even summon their own synchro/xyz.
They don't have any resource to spare to summon shit monster just because.
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>>179797147
Clear Wing is completely reactive, does nothing to shit that doesn't have levels or doesn't target it, nor does it float.
The amount of resources put into Clear Wing vs Firewall argument goes straight out of the window when there's no material restriction for Firewall whatsoever which opens up your options.
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>>179797593
You don't get it, don't you? It's just one of the example.
No one cares about how generic/specific a mat for an ED monster is.
They just care about whether you can make it in the deck and how many resource you spent to make it in that deck.

Let's consider other example.
Glio just need 3 monster.
Trish just need 3 monster.
And what did Link gives you with 3 monster? A restricted negator that needs ANOTHER monster as fodder.
Firewall is a solid monster? Fucking Moonlight is virtually the same thing, except it only needs half the resource, unconditionally gives immediate value, and even have long-lasting value.

You must also consider the simple fact that most deck doesn't have the swarming capabilities of Dark Synchro.
They struggle to even summon their own boss and now they must spent additional resource on top of that to summon a monster that doesn't help them at all?
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>mfw thinking about playing Yu-Gi-Oh in Link format
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Could someone educate me of how I could covert a somewhat long replay into .webm format?
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>>179752148
huh, i hadn't noticed her cleavage before
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Anyone got a way for playing YGOPro in link format? Patches or such?
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>>179801560
ygopro 2 and ygocore both have links
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>>179801323
get a program that can record like open broadcasting software or nvidia shadowplay
make a regular video out of your replay first
then get ffmpeg or webm for retards
follow the instructions to convert your vid into a webm
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>checkmate has ignition priority

what the fuck
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>>179802258
bet you just passed the priority
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>>179802258
>Implying this is a bad thing
It should come back anyway along with an ED increase to at least 20 because links. It'd help alleviate every monster needing the 'during either player's turn' part of an effect in order to be good. It'd also allow things like bottomless/compulse to go back to 3 as they don't cockblock ignition effects anymore.

>b-but muh dino rabbit effect veiler dodge
Happened a long time ago and is nowhere near meta now thanks to power creep out the ass.
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>>179803105
Have you ever considered the consequence bitch?
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>>179803916
Eidolons gonna win worlds due to the crappy combined banlists
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What do I do now?
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>>179804025
Dino YZ (AKA Donglong turbo) and Trickstar WW is also a good contender, you know.
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>>179804094
Lay down the wildcard and declare blue, since you have Fire Swordsman and that Hearthstone card.
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>>179804094
1-Declare Victory by having no prize cards
2-Play the Uno card and declare victory by having no Uno cards in your hand
3-Call all the other judges and say that you did 2-0
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AAAA THEY'RE NEO SHADDOLLS BUT MORE OBNOXIOUS
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>>179749885
Buying Now.
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>>179806480
>sold out everywhere
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What are your thoughts on Invokeds?
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>>179804169
Pretty sure COTD won't be legal for worlds
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>>179807423
A neat idea, but I wish it was its own archtype instead of being a splashable engine. It needs more maindeck cards.
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>>179807654
No MR4 then?
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>>179807423
I yawn whenever someone summons Aleister.
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What are your thoughts on Metaphys?
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How do I into Six Sams?
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>>179808716
cool idea, great art, shit archetype
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Does anyone have the links to the YGOpro that has link summoning?
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>>179808728
Play the old cards and pray for Gateway to return, the new ones are pretty bad.
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>>179808728
Run the 10-12 cards you need for Shi En, then fill the rest with actually good cards. Also, make Naturia Beast instead of Shi En.
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>>179808728
Turbo out Shien or Beast off Asceticism and Dojo as quickly as possible
No Synchro and you lose
New support is okay at best. Hatsume recycles a Shien for free and is an Asceticism/Smoke Signal target, Rihan can help put counters on the board.
Six Samurai are still topping in both the TCG and OCG because turn 1 Shien or Beast is a win condition if they don't top a Kaiju.
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>>179810364
>Six Samurai are still topping in both the TCG and OCG
Where?
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I have some unofficial local tournament coming up, and I'm trying to assemble a passable Dinosaur deck, but I only have one Diagram.
Is there any way to make this remotely more consistent? Because I can understand why this thing will be useless once Diagram becomes limited.
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>>179749663
new qlis?
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>>179763558
>Its like Konami forgot the entire mechanic
do you remember the last time Konami remembered Ritual existed?
I do, it was terrifying.
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>>179811341
Qliphort was actually competitive though
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>>179811016
+2 diagram
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Do you think I could get at least 5 dollars by selling this all together?
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>>179811897
check the prices on tcgplayer
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>>179811553
Terrifying my ass.
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>>179811798
Anon you're a genius.
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>>179812271
remembered, not pack filler
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>>179812524
>How can we make Rituals good
>I know, let's give them the effects of several banned Synchro dragons
Fucking genius
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>>179812524
There's a considerable time between Nekroz and Shinobird where Konami forgotten Ritual exist.
So yeah, Shinobird is the last time Konami remembered.
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>>179812994
Technically Cyber Angels came out between Nekroz and Shinobirds
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https://ygorganization.com/both-dragons-flesh-and-mechanical/

>New Dark Magician Fusion
>New Cyber Dragon Fusion
>New Odd-Eyes Pendulum
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I kind of wanna make a chemicritter deck, is it even playable? I haven't dealt with gemini monsters in a long, long time.
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>>179815906
>Many Duelists consider Cyber Dragon to be the most influential monster ever created
Do they?
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>>179816676
it was the first major jump in power creep by being a 2100 beater you could easily summon without tributing, and special summon at that, leaving you with your normal summon for something else.
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>>179815906
Sounds pretty shit compared to the last two year's offerings.
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>>179818229
I fail to see how this doesn't blow the first Legendary Deck set out of the water
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>>179818229
What

The only thing last year was good for was Ties of the Brethren. Sure, it was
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>>179816676
Cyber Dragon was the first time people called the game "ruined".
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>>179816878
you forgot chaos sorcerer/BLS: Envoy and CED which were the real first jump up in power, especially when dimension fusion and DMoC were in the same set (IOC).
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So will Worlds be played with Link rules or not?
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>>179819867
Yes but Cyber Dragon allowed first turn "swarming" to happen. Goat format's duels began extremely slowly in comarison, with the most common opening being the "T-set" (set 1 monster, set 1 S/T, pass).
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>>179820603
>cyber dragon first turn
anon, I
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>TCG tournaments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jzrgHIhO4k&
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>>179815906
>new Cyber Dragon fusion
>possible reprints of Core, Drei, Nova and Infinity
>maybe even Galaxy Soldier?
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>>179815906
Oh neat, we're getting those alt-art dimension dragons.
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>>179820912
Ugh, I meant on "their" first turn. The second turn of the duel. You couldn't just set a monster and have it be your entire turn going first, because what if they drop a fucking Cyber Dragon on your ass?
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>>179820402
It's very likely since the 2017 Starter deck comes out a full month before. COTD probably won't be allowed, though.
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gay thread
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>>179815906
Hell yeah now this is a great nostalgia product. Hype for the DM fusion. If only Timaeus was searchable with Rod and Succession.
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>>179823546
qlingy long ded
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>>179749663
TCG

Side or main
Ghost Ash
vs
Ghost Ogre

i got 2 of each, who gets main deck, who gets side, and who do I side each of them against? Im the coma guy from last week.
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>>179750505
I know they are zombies, but fingers crossed for shiranuis.
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>>179824104
main always
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>>179815906
>Starving Venom Alt Art reprint
Nice.
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>>179824413
but is it ash in the main, ogre in the side, or vice versa. cant REALLY fit them both.
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>>179815906
>They won't reprint the Legendary Dragons anytime soon I said
>I need to get these Eyes before they creep up in price some more for being old I said

Fuck me. Still a great product. Easy Legendary Dragons, easy Cyber Dragon stuff since the Structure is over $20 and then you still need to buy Infinity, Odd-Eyes stuff is already cheap but the alt art should be nice.
Cybers>Legendary Dragons>>>>>>>Odd-Eyes.
Should have replaced Odd-Eyes with Galaxy-Eyes.
Hopefully the Dark Magician has unique art. That shit gets printed too much.
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>>179811592
Qlis weren't competitive, the backrow was
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>>179824485
>cant REALLY fit them both
What are you playing?
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>>179824851
Towers vision was viable for a bit
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>>179824804
To be fair, it may be a reprint of the newer DM stuff as well which would be nice since a chunk of the mandatory 3-ofs are secret rare only from TDIL.
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>>179815906
Not complaining about Cyber Dragon support, but what they really need is better maindeck cards. Something like:

>another Level 5 that can SS itself
>Cyber Dragon that can fuse with its effect
>or a Cyber Fusion S/T
>or something to search Power Bond
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>>179824891
Zombie synchro. For funsies.
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>>179825139
That stuff could be in the Mega Tin but I honestly would prefer it to be here. At least I'd be guaranteed to get it.
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>>179825589
3 Ghost Ogre, 3 Ash Blossom, 1 Maxx C AND THEN you build the deck around that unless you're seriously trying to lose against True Draco/Zoo
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>>179825589
oh then you don't really have space in general
pray on those omegas
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>>179783692
GoGoGo GaGaGag on a DoDoDong
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Can we just take a break to talk about how Konami just fucked over hundreds of decks just because they were too pussy to ban diagram?

http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/50225427.html
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>>179826040
No fun around here I see. This is just something im dragging over to locals until links drop next month.

So what would you do if you had to choose. Ghost ogre or Ghost Ash. Deck can do stuff with both, Ash is a zombie tuner and can be recured, ogre is an emergency brilliant target.
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>>179825419
inb4 they make Cyberse Dragon
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>>179828217
Hurting weaker decks to get at a powerful deck is not and never has been a valid complaint.
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>>179828217
Banning Diagram would kill the deck completely and would piss off too many competitive players to be a smart move.
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>>179828486
Great argument.
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>>179822750
Total douchebag.
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>>179828656
Okay then

Are you saying that because it weakened Dragunity, Dragon Ravine should have been untouched during Dragon Ruler format?
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>>179828284
Depends on what you feel like losing to more, True Draco or Zoo.

Ghost Ogre is a must against True Draco since you want to hold it to get rid of their Field Spell. Keep it off the board and they WILL lose. It's also pretty good against Zoodiac Barrage since it just stops that.

Ash Blossom is good against EVERY DECK ever made, HOWEVER it won't get Dragonic Diagram off the field but it can hit Terraforming? In addition to a million other cards.

Basically, Ash Blossom is much more important to max out on in the main if you simply must choose.
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>>179828217
Don't bother, the retards in this community actually prefer hitting as many casual decks as possible.
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>>179828959
Thanks. Thats exactly what I was looking for.
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>>179828217
>http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/50225427.html

what "hundreds" of decks got fucked over? i don't get it.

Also, Diagram at 1 is fine. Everyone mains 3 Ghost Ogre and the deck is COMPELTELY dead if it's banned. I do hate the card myself though.
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>>179829030
Are you saying cancer should be allowed to run free just so it doesn't weaken a tier 99 pet deck?
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Would a Cyber Dragon Link monster be Machine or Cyberse type?
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>>179829243
Every deck that relies heavily on its field spell got hit by the Terraforming semi-limit.
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>>179829349
>hitting Terraforming is the only way to hit True Dracos
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>>179828905
Yes, actually. They should have (and did) ban the Dragon Rulers outright if they wanted to limit the power of DR. To this day Dragon Ravine is still semi limited even though the cards that got it on the banlist have long been forbidden. Konami's policy of "we're gonna hit neutral support that X deck abuses a few months before we inevtiably ban X outright" is a ridiculous. Hitting Terraforming is going to hurt a ton of casual decks all in the name of not 100% killing True Draco right now. But it's a moot point because they're going to fully gut True Draco once they want to sell Links anyway.
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>>179829717
Machine, obviously. But then again
>konami
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>>179829875
By doing that though, you also run the risk of a PePe situation

PePe wasn't a single deck or archetype making it good. It was multiple stuff that came together to spam Rank 4. It used Plushfire and other mages, but also pals, Dracoslayers, the charmer familiars, that Heroic, etc. It was a bunch of different cards, many of which unrelated, coming together to form that abomination.
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>people bitching about Terraforming
>when the best consistency booster for casual decks is still on the list
RELEASE ME
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>>179830729
God no. You and lavalval chain can go and stay go.
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>>179830729
You could get semilimit though.
>>179830849
Lavalval is more broken since is a Rank 4 that is both a Burial and Goods.
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>>179830729
>implying the most ran card in the game should be banned because of free GY dumping even though more decks have field spells than GY effects
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>>179830729
i would love foolish burial at 2 so much. no top deck runs it anymore and it would help a lot of pet decks out
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>>179831325
>more decks have field spells than GY effects
Objectively wrong.
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>>179831325
>more decks have field spells than GY effects
O I AM LAFFIN

lemme see those Paleozoic, Burning Abyss, Atlantean and Phantom Knight Field Spells m8
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This shit is still my favorite CaC i've seen so far.
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Show me your favorite sekrit techs.
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>>179833189
IF Pendulum ever tried to be relevant post-MR4.
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>>179833228
Just take a cookie cutter 3SD and throw in a Poly and BB/Sub
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>>179832893
i never said that all decks have field spells, but I could list more decks with field spells than GY effects.
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>>179833189
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>>179833189
Sekrit tech in what
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>>179833189
Some TD player gave me this, he regretted it the moment he tried to target my shit and i just wrecked his entire board in the battle phase because of kaleido chick
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>>179833543
Try it anon.
There's only 153 field spell in the game while there's 294 archetype in the game.
And you can safely say that more than 75% of it use GY,
That's not even counting series like DRuler.
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Hey, sorry for the ignorance, but could you guys help me out with something?

"All monsters on the field lose ATK equal to their own original DEF. If this card would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you can destroy 1 monster this card points to instead."

So what if I have a monster who cant be destroyed by effects in the linked zones, like beelz the diabolic dragon? Would he be a legal target to shift the destruction to?
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>>179835041
To my understanding, you cannot. The card you're trying to shift the destruction to cannot be destroyed, so it's not a valid target.
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>>179835041
>Would he be a legal target to shift the destruction to?
No.
Refer to Proxy Dragon ruling.

Q: Proxy Dragon is face-up in my Main Monster Zone, with Stargrail Shrine Maiden Eve in a Monster Zone adjacent to it. In this situation, if Proxy Dragon would be destroyed by battle, can I apply its effect?
A: In this scenario, Stargrail Shrine Maiden Eve is in a linked state with Proxy Dragon, so it is not destroyed by battle or cards effects, and cannot be targeted by your opponent’s card effects. Therefore, since you cannot destroy Stargrail Shrine Maiden Eve with the effect of Proxy Dragon, you cannot apply its effect, and it is destroyed by battle normally.
Source: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=20949&keyword=&tag=-1&request_locale=ja
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>>179825419
You know before I'd think a PB searcher to be not that necessary but after playing some matches in Link format I believe that, at least until some good machine Link is released, PB OTK will be the way to play the deck.

Anyway, super excited for this.
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Anyone have a good Spiral Phantasm deck? I feel like they're low-key kind of okay-ish but every build I see is pretty unique so I can't wrap my head around how to build them.
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Tips:Gouki_The_Great_Ogre

>"This card works best in a Superheavy Samurai Deck because those monsters can attack in Defense Position and apply damage calculation with their defense points meaning that this card's first effect does not affect them"

lul, wut?
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>>179836167
Are you brain addled?
Superheavies use their DEF for damage calculation, so it doesn't matter how much their ATK is lowered by through Gouki's effect.
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>>179836167
tips are a meme
>searched by dogu
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>>179828217
>http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/50225427.html

Can some weeb translate what the elevens are saying?
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>>179836296
not dumb anon, just struck by
>This card works best
like they saw gouki and was like, "Yes, finally, some super heavy samurai support!"

its like seeing dragon's mirror and going, "Golly gee, now i can run thousand dragon!"
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>>179836621
Use Google Translate.
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>>179807423
Needs more main deck support. Pretty nice engine though
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>>179836841
I said some weeb, anon.
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>>179835639
>Anyone have a good Spiral Phantasm deck?
I didn't know other people had this idea. I'm still playing with the ratios but here's what I'm running right now.
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>>179837119
You rjoke is lame and you're bad at the game for running Slumber with only 2 Kaijus
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>>179836635
>expecting YGO Wiki tips to actually be useful
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>>179836520
>This card can be searched by "Temple of the Kings", "Dogu", "Single Purchase", "Chaofeng, Phantom of the Yang Zing", "Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Bane", "Sage with Eyes of Blue", "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing", "One for One", "Where Arf Thou?", "Mimiclay", "Serpentine Princess", "Vampire Dragon", "Dragunity Corsesca", "Ties of the Brethren", "Painful Escape", "Sangan", "Rescue Ferret", "Shining Angel", "Rai-Mei", "Chaos Zone", "Photon Veil", "Minerva, Lightsworn Maiden", "Masked Dragon", "Red-Eyes Baby Dragon", "Dread Dragon", "Dragonic Guard", "Draconnection", "Dragunity Knight - Gae Dearg", "Ninjitsu Art of Super-Transformation" and "Hieratic Dragon King of Atum".
>the only "relevant" one is Sage, 141, Where Arf Thou?, Sangan, and Ferret
>doesn't even list Dragon Shrine and Ravine
I suspect there's some kind of automated script for this shit.
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>>179836520
>anon thinks that Dogu makes you a meme
Dogu players are better than you metafagots
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>>179837796
ok
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Wait, what's going to be in the Cyber Dragon extra deck? They said 11 cards.
Twin
End
Chimera
Rampage
Fortress
Nova
Infinity
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>>179838279
we're guaranteed 1 new fusion, maybe a new xyz? i completely doubt it but i'd love that
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>>179838279
Panzer Dragon, Pair Cycroid, another Nova, 1 new card
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>>179838429
I think they'd announce it if we were getting 2 new cards.

>>179838504
Believable. Instant Fusion being in the deck would be great. Galaxy Soldier too.
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>>179838279
Why do you assume that Cyber Dragons get the 11 card ED and not the Legendary Dragons? They said it has all of their Fusions plus the new DM one. Or Odd-Eyes Dimension Dragons which already have more than 10.
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>>179838753
Because Odd-Eyes is getting a new Pendulum monster which makes me think it's the deck with 41 cards in the main. I doubt they're printing every single Odd-Eyes Extra Deck monster. Two decks are getting 11 card extras and one is getting 10. The Legendary Dragons are obviously getting 1 of the 11 card decks.
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>>179837742
Shrine and Ravine don't search, they send to the Grave.
Well, Ravine does search Dragunities but that's irrelevant to your card.
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>>179839197
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fun messing around with machine builds using Break! Draw! to generate extra cards is interesting and works well with cyber dragons
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>>179839043
Odd-Eyeshas a lot of ED stuff in theme, while Cyber Dragon barely hits 10 even with the new one.

Meanwhile Odd-Eyes will doubtlessly include Clear Wing, Dark Rebellion and Starving Venom, and Vortex, Meteorburst and Absolute. Then you have the Odd-Eyes ED Pendulums, 4. And 3 more Pendulum Dragon Fusions. And seeing as this is specifically mentioned as Dimension Dragons, you have Crystal Wing, Dark Requiem and Greedy Venom, followed by Z-arc.

I don't see Cyber Dragons getting one of the 11s.
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>>179839957
They're not printing the Pendulum extra deck monsters outside of maybe Raging and Rebellion. Wing and Venom are too new.
Odd-Eyes Vortex Dragon
Beast-Eyes Pendulum Dragon
Rune-Eyes Pendulum Dragon
Brave-Eyes Pendulum Dragon
Odd-Eyes Meteorburst Dragon
Odd-Eyes Absolute Dragon
Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon
Starving Venom Fusion Dragon
Clear Wing Synchro Dragon
Dark RebelIion Xyz Dragon

Greedy and Requiem require main deck space for their extra cards.
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>>179839534
Hawe you ever heard someone use "search" in that context? I've always just heard people refer to that as "dumping"
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>>179840461
Hey, it's what they linked as the description of "searched" in the wiki tips page.
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>>179840365
Wing currently doesn't even have a release set for the TCG
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>http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Searcher
I just realized how useful this page is.
Hurrah for wiki community.
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I was bored and was going to make a brain expand meme but I got too lazy. What are some cool and meme ways to get a L1 tuner on board? Some ideas I had were:
The D/D engine (3 kepler, 3 contract 1 lamia)
The aeolo engine (3 fossil dig, 3 misc, 1 aeolo)

Are there any other meme engines to get out a L1 tuner on board? No easy stuff like foolish+gub or 141.
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>>179842173
Normal Summon a Majestic Dragon
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>>179842173
Human-Wave Tactics
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>>179842173
Summon a Blue-Eyes White Dragon with Hieratics and use Light wave Tuning on it
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>>179842253
And somehow Synchro Summon a Stardust Dragon with a Stardust Xialong on GY
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>>179842173
fuck off
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>>179842173
Discard Nimble Angler, SS 2 Manta, activates Black Garden, Xyz Manta into Number 29, then Number 29 SS Scapeghost from deck.
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>>179830729
i prefer lavaval chain release~
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>>179842173
Activate Star Blast and pay 3500 LP to normal summon Bird of Paradise Lost
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>>179842864
Yeah, Unchain the chain
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>>179795607
That looks a lot like hammer sunset beach's art. Do you have the link to where you found this image?
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Who will take worlds? ABC, magicians, ddd, zoos, dinos, star grails or fluffals?
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>>179843260
>Zoos
I'm sure that ain't happening
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>>179843260
the deck that's been having almost every recent tournament top
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>>179843260
If we're playing with joint banlist, the Link starter but not Code of the Duelist, Magicians, D/D/D and Zoo will be gutted and Starfrails won't even have been released. ABC are meh, they get a little boost when we get Proxy Dragon from the mega tins but I think that's after worlds. Dinos are in a good position, even with Diagram at one.
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>>179843742
then i hope dinos got touched by the banlist
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>>179842173
Scrap Recycler send Mind Reader
R-Genex Turbo search Oracle
Skreech suicide to send Fishborg Launcher and any water monster
Void Vanishment into Void Feast into Decatron
Bait opponent to summon Chaos Hunter/Leonidas/Retaliating and then SS Psy-frame Alpha
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>>179843372
>Diagram to 1
>Master Peace to 1

Don't see that happening
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How does this look? The idea is to crash my ships against the Kaijus I gave them, summon Farmgirl and let her fetch and tagout into Destroyer for at least 4500 damage plus whatever my Kaiju can deal.
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>>179843371
The Hyperion one should be
>taking a card from your deck and adding it to your opponent's hand
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>>179844313
Looking at the ratios, 3 allure is a bit suicidal, you have less DARK monsters than other attributes
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>>179844313
>crash the ship to kaiju, SS farmgirl
>farmgirl doesn't have target to attack because kaiju have high atk
10/10 strategy
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Ok so I'm a returning player to the game and I decided to give Trickstars a chance. Are they supposed to win all the time vs Zoodiacs and its variants? I have the Light Barrier version of the build.
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>>179844345
Is there on that does that? Gift Exchange is similar but you banish the card face down first.
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Rate my dick
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>>179844620
No you don't get it, you give them the 2400 or 2800 atk Kaiju and crash with your own 2400 or 2800 atk ship respectively. That way both the ship and the Kaiju dies and you get a free Farmgirl wich can attack directly. It's pretty easy with Slumber.
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>>179843994
*world banlist
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>>179838279
Obviously there is someone in need of a reprint ;)
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>>179844906
Yeah they lost two Diagrams and a Terraforming.
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>>179844974
cyber ogre and cyber ogre 2 retrains and whole
cyber ogre archetype when
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Been out of the loop since April.

1. Did COTD give us anything worthwhile?

2. What other noteworthy cards or decks have come out?

3. What's the next best deck or is Master Peace still the king?
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>>179844482
Sure, but 11 Darks vs 13 non-darks isn't that bad. It's always been helpful for me.
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>>179844747
Eh, Gift Exchange should counts.
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>>179844482
>>179845467
Also follow-up question: Sould I drop them or just add more darks? In that case, what should I cut?
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>>179845247
The fact they are Earth instead of Light makes me a bit mad.

Doesn't help the eff of Cyber Ogre 1 is all kinds of awful.
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>>179842173
Draconet into Aqua Spirit?
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>>179845958
i'm sad we got a cyber dragon archetype instead of an archetype based on all the different cyber monsters. also
>there's a cyber ogre support card
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>>179843742
Legit question: how the fuck does Proxy Dragon help ABCs? The Link Markers are shit for ED spam
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>>179846509
its summon triggers the graveyard effects thus getting a third one onboard and making decode + abc
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>>179844974
Huh, that's actually a decent effect. And according to the wiki, it's continuous so it even beats Lightning.
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>>179845274
Missus Radiant let Zoo continue to dominate the OCG, otherwise it didn't do a whole lot.

Mustard Peace is still king for now, but the OCG banlist just dropped yesterday which absolitely guts both True Kings/Dracos and Zoodiacs.
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when will we get the cyberdark support in tcg?
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>>179846509
>Opening hand: Terraforming or Hangar, Photon Trasher or a Gadget, one ABC piece and 2 random cards
>Activate field, search B
>Summon Trasher/Gadget, Summon B, equip C to your B
>Use Gadget/Trasher and B to Link summon Proxy Dragon
>B searches A and C summons your A from your hand
>Link summon Decode Talker with Proxy Dragon (link2) and the A you just summoned
>Summon ABC

That gives you ABC, Decode Talker and 3 cards on hand with one of them being an ABC piece you can discard to banish something.
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>>179846619
Wow, I would have never thought ofthat. But you'd need to have Crush Wyvern handy right? Obviously it doesn't beat the old Tsukuyomi combo, but I guess even ABCs had to adapt.
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>>179847063
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=8222

September
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>>179847323
sounds good thank you, been messing around with cyberdark shaddoll deck and its great i even threw in good ol axe of despair
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>>179847080
Wish they make Link-2 monster for swarming purpose already.
Or at least Link-2 that can discard to do stuff while having "good" arrow like Akashic.
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>>179847651
decklist?
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>>179847979
still working on some things but you could reduce black salvo to 1 since Winda kinda fucks you in the ass when you want to synchro traps leave much to be desired
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>>179848541
I think the po-jews were talking about using renrin and the buster blader tuner that specials itself when equipped to synchro 8 because omega shenanigans

you arent ever making more than 1 of either dragon fusion
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>>179848541
So far I've found that playing pure Cyberdarks bricks less often than Cyberdarks + meme engine of your choice.

Looking forward to play this in Link format desu, I think (or I'm trying to delude myself to) it will be more suited to it.

>>179846432
>byROAD sacrifice
>captcha about roads
Cyber Ogre support confirmed, thanks Captcha
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>>179838279
What are the chances we get cyber cards that mesh well with CyberDarks?
I think Cannon and Claw should have their own fusion or Xyz (that can special summon Nova and thus Infinity.)
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>>179849948
what's the name of the 3rd card set in the 2nd row again?
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>>179849990
>What are the chances we get cyber cards that mesh well with CyberDarks?
Pulled my cyber-o-meter off, 5,2%
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>>179849990
I'm just hoping the September pack puts in Cyberdark Impact and Cyberdark Dragon. The Japanese set didn't.
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>>179850434
Cyberdark Claw.
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>>179851142
>Cyberdark Impact! is still $30 and the only reprint is from fucking Duel Terminal

The jews, I swear
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>>179849990
They do. Its called Panzer Dragon. Level 5, 1 machine + 1 dragon.
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>>179851579
Alright this is bullshit and I don't expect a reprint from Tewart & pals desu
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>>179851793
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What if Konami gives us more Nekroz support as the new ritual stuff
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>>179845030
I honestly can't get over Terraforming. why hit terra of all thing. Nobody complains about it, the only reason it's on there is because of diagram, which is already at 1.

>Field Spell
>can be blocked by set rotation
>needs to activate after already being activated, making it vulnerable to Ghost Ogre
>outside of Seal and a few others, field spells can be taken care of using any form of backrow/geeric card removal (Tornado Dragon, Twisters, Mister Piss, Cyclone, etc.)
>their only real upside is that they don't take up actual backrow and that they have auniversal searcher (Terra)
>only 3 tier 0 decks rely on their field spell and dracos are crippled enough with diagram at 1, while Dinos field spell has an alternate searcher
Honestly, of all thing, why TERRA?
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>>179852574
Maybe they got sick of 3 Terraforming in every deck? Just like Upstart Goblin going to 1.
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>>179852814
That's KoA.
KoJ's the one hitting Terra.
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>>179852574
They don't even need anybody complaining or even actual result to ban a card.
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>>179851579
>>179851793
>>179851949
Oh fuck
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>>179852814
yeah, but 3 terra is necessary in decks that want to use their field spell consistently. I even got told off in an earlier thread for not running 3 in my spiral deck.
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>>179843219
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=474274
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>He doesn't run Tyler the Great Warrior
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Are ultra pro pro matte eclipse sleeves the best sleeves right now for Yugioh? I watched Tolarian Community College's video and decided to buy them, 1 pack of white and 1 pack of black since those seem to be the only colors the minis come in.

I'm a bit iffy though, while the shuffles feel great I stretch tested an extra sleeve and it managed to tear like old ultra pro, with no force at all, but then i managed to not be able to tear 3 sleeves in a row. Seems like it has little consistency or at least 1 out of every 4 sleeves will tear easily (needs more testing desu).

I also noticed, after about 4 days of shuffling, the sides and corners are starting to become worn and look damaged and I'm worried about splitting.

Is there any better sleeve or is this still the best? Why did kmc fall so hard?

I don't have the sleeve that split as I did that last night before bed and threw it away in disgust.
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>>179854418
I do understand that. But by that same token, running three RotA would be necessary in any Warrior deck, but then other, stronger decks run it too.

Trust me, I feel for people here. I've had pet decks hurt because a key card was even stronger in more powerful deck, but those weaker decks aren't what determine the banlist, the top do.
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>>179855480
Here is the side of my black sleeved deck (the white looks damaged too, but harder to see and probably impossible with my terrible camera).
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>>179854418
Running 2 Terra when Terra still at 3 is like playing Zood with 2 Tenki when Tenki still at 3.
It's not exactly necessary, but not having it at max is just simply stupid.
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>>179855480
Eclipse sleeves are pretty trash, and they only come in White, the color that gets dirty really quickly and will get you DQ'd at Tier 2 Events for marking cards. Best YGO sized sleeves rn are KMCs (unless they really have changed plastics and have ruined the quality, but idk), Player's Choice and Dragon's Shield.
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>>179855689
>gets A+ from guy who tests sleeves extensively and has dozens of sleeve videos
>trash
?????
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>>179855837
Everyone I've talked to at locals who's used them said they broke more easily than the other "high-quality" sleeve brands, and again, the YGO size ONLY COMES IN WHITE, which is an instant-nobuy for me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XWIBDVkGUY

Here's the video
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>>179855689
>players choice

When did players choice reps start shilling here and why here of all places? It's dead.
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>>179856035
I've had a set for like 2 months now and they're still holding together, they shuffled well out of the package, tho it took me a while to get over the shiny-ness.
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>>179855445
>he doesn't run Tyler the Great Warrior at 3
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>>179855905
>>179855689
The guy you responded too literally has black sleeves, what the fuck do you mean "only white"?
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>>179855445
>>179856138
>he runs a card made for a dbz retard
kys
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>>179856247
He was using Magic sized Eclipse, YGO sized Eclipse only come in white as of now.
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post your best phantasm spiral deck /dng/
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>>179856329
>he doesn't run pic related
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>>179856504
your best phantasm spiral deck /dng/
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>>179856504
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>>179856504
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>>179856558
> a trap that doesn't work on traps
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CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
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>>179856356
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p1117736.html

Yes, totally magic sized. Hm
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Instant Riutal Art [spell card]
Pay 1000 life points, special summon a lvl 5 o lower ritual monster from your deck or a ritual monster from your hand. That monster effects are negated and destroy it during the end phase, You can only activate one Instant Riutal Art per turn.
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>>179857349
Well I guess they managed to release black ones finally, idk could just be that I'm in the Midwest and I imagine they take forever to ship here. I'll have to get some and try it as soon as any of my locals stock them.
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>>179857201
wrong one bud
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>>179857436
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>>179857436
jerome that you leaking?
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>>179857553
I'm amazed this hasn't gotten abused somehow.

Then again Rituals are bricks
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>>179857553
DUEL LINKS!
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>>179857201
there isn't a counterpart to Frozen Fitzgerald called Broken Benjamin
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>>179857553
m-mine ss from deck too
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can someone explain to me why Scarm is a semi-limit? was he limited before?
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>>179857553
Oh, you can summon Amor Pain with that.
Gravity also gets his effect.
Legendary Flame Lord also a viable candidate.
Then there's the trick with Tarotrey flipping herself so it's not destroyed on EP.

It's not worth the -1 and being unsearchable though.
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>>179858697
OCG actually killed burning abyss by putting Dante and Scarm to 1, meanwhile in TCG land, Dante has been dodging the banlist for 3 years
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>>179858697
used to be at 1 in ocg

>ocg hit scarm and dante and instantly put ba in its place
>tcg sparsely touch ba and kill everything else first
fucking tewart
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>>179858723
>the -1
Rituals are by definition a shitton of card disadvantage, going -1 is actually a very good price by their standards.
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>>179858902
Kozmo here in murrika is still very fucking playable, just not as annoying because you don't get bank destroyed every turn
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What else could i actually use Altergeist Meluseek in? That removal effect is fuggin dank.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Altergeist_Meluseek
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>>179859441
Just use Ningirsu
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>tfw you see all this talk about cool things to do with cards, strategies and what not
>tfw you dont know shit about this and just play stuff
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>>179859573
>Using three extra deck monsters as well as at least 3 maindeck monsters unless you're using normal monsters to make a worse ignister that doesn't even help you link summon because of its retarded markers
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>>179859812
They really should make something like Accel Synchron for Link already.

>at least 3 maindeck monsters unless you're using normal monsters
At least 4 unless you use normal monster/cyberse.
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>>179860019
just give us the radiant counterparts not-1-per-set
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>>179860383
>they still haven't revealed the Missus of CIBR
There's one, right?
Right?
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>>179860496
There's only 1 spot left in Circuit Break that it could fit into, which is 052, the same slot Missus Radiant occupied in Code of the Duelist.
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>>179857589
jerome??
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>play against a zoo deck with bes
>win
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What's the consensus on the ocg banlist?

I've always cared more about the ocg because release speed and shit, but both metas are kind of shit right now so no idea which banlist to take for my table.
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>>179862440
TD with 1 Diagram and 1 Master Peace will still be the top, along with Dinos. Zoo is dead. Lots of neat unbannings. Snow at 1 is good. Nothing else is good enough over there to top except Dinos and TD tho, so it's still the same meta, just minus Zoo. No Links are meta yet, it's all terribly, terribly boring.
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>>179843260
Invoked or dinos
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>>179843260
windwitch speedroids: princess cup edition
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too late
https://youtu.be/aQMRYThoW7c
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Is it suicidal to play six sams? Any engines for it?
Or should I just commit sodoku and die with some honor
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>>179862524
Pffft, as soon as it takes effect, you'll see some serious dethroning by Trickstar.
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>>179863757
>Shunhime Hinata
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>>179863847
Six sam got new support, theyre meta now
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>>179863965
>trickstars doing anything
Maybe if you play 3 copies of Magical Christmas Land.
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>>179864516
They already have a few tops here and there even in the middle of full power TD.
You really need to tear that scales from your eyes buddy.
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>>179865153
>FTK deck randomly tops in an oppressive meta
Imagine My Surprise.
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Was this new Six Sam spell posted yet?
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>>179865431
I don't see Neptune topping before it got banned.
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>winning streak with Trickstar

Why the fuck did no one tell me Trickstars were so good?
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>>179865460
Nope, wasn't posted with the first 4 and translation isn't up on org yet.

Also i'm pleasantly surprised with how much news the new Yu-gi-oh site is shitting out.
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>>179865431
And now the meta stopped being oppressive.
Meaning more time for the FTK to works into OTK.

TIER ZERO BABY
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>>179865153
Doesn't matter if TD and Zoo aren't there/are nerfed, Trickstars still need a perfect hand to even beat Dinos, who are untouched. It's like Exodia, if they don't win T1 they lose. And they don't win T1 often enough to be GOOD.
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>>179865460
>Once per turn, you can target 1 face-up "Six Samurai" monster on the field: Shuffle your deck.
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>>179865797
>no cac yet
ebin
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>>179865741
>Dinos, who are untouched
Guess whose key card just got limited.

>It's like Exodia, if they don't win T1 they lose. And they don't win T1 often enough to be GOOD.
Bet you never see Trickstars WW.
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>>179866004
>diagram is the key card
No the key cards are Oviraptor, Misc, Aeolo, Litho, etc. They can even just go on the Yang Zing plan and stunshit. Not they just can't make VFD as often.

Yeah I haven't because no one's fucking done anything with the deck over there. I've never even seen a single Overlord running it, let alone topping.
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>>179866150
>Aeolo
>The problem with brilliant fusion is gem-knight garnet
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>>179863847
As long as Gateway is banned dont even think about playing them.
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>>179866293
You tried to imply that Dino's key card was Limited, meaning Diagram. Diagram is an enabler for all of their plays, they can still function perfectly fine with it at 1, they can just shift more towards using Yang Zings as well.
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>>179865460
Translate it weebs!
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>>179866150
Latest report.

>the key cards are Oviraptor, Misc, Aeolo, Litho, etc.
You don't get it, don't you?
They need hand destructor to put shit on field, and mere 3 copy of litho can't do shit.
They're just Donglong turbo now.
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Time to tech in Giant Rex haha
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>>179866360
>Diagram is an enabler for all of their plays
>they can still function perfectly fine with it at 1
Contradictory.

And the YZ build doesn't have enough firepower to win quickly.
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>>179866556
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>>179866556
Gold Sarc now can instantly put level 4 on field for free.
There's also that Vullet quickplay that can put level 4 on field for free.

So, can I get my E-Tele back, Konami?
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>>179867109
Gold sarc can also pop 1 face-up card your opponent controls.
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>>179867270
It also can foolish any insect.
Though it's not like there's any insect worth to foolish.
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>>179865460
So no one cares about this card or what?
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>>179867760
i guess not. it probably sucks, anyway
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>>179867760
after the others it'll probably be lackluster too
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>>179865460
Shadow Ninjutsu of the Six Men
Quick magic
Cards with this card name can only be activated one turn.
: You can send 1 Field of Monster yourself to the Graveyard and activate it against your Exclusionary "Six Military" monster. Special summon that monster.

courtesy of google tl
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>>179865460
Something about Special Summoning so it has to be at least decent right?
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>>179868115
Send one to grave to summon a banished one.
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>>179868115
So tribute 1 Six Samurai to target 1 Six Smaurai in the GY; Special summon that target?
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>>179868253
It doesn't specify anything for monster you send from field to grave, so I guess it can be any monster.

Except pendulum, because it send to grave as a cost.
I think.
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>>179868115
>>179868229
>>179868253
So, is it good?
Purely from advantage, you're giving up 2 card to summon a banished monster.
And I never seen any Six Sam that benefits from being banished.

Well, at least it's a quickplay for some shenanigan on opponent's turn.
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>>179805554
makes me feel on the edge
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>>179865460
DBSW JP-007

Shadow Ninjutsu of the Six Samurai / Shadow Art of the Six Samurai

Quick-Play Spell
You can only activate 1 card with this name once per turn.
(1) Send 1 monster you control to the Graveyard, then target 1 of your banished “Six Samurai” monsters; Special Summon it.
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Shadow Ninjutsu of the Six Samurai / Shadow Art of the Six Samurai

Quick-Play Spell
You can only activate 1 card with this name once per turn.
(1) Send 1 monster you control to the Graveyard, then target 1 of your banished “Six Samurai” monsters; Special Summon it.

It works with some of the new spams, and it's a quickplay
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>>179868727
I'm still around, lads.
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how unbreakable is this board, /dng/?
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>>179868727
That's so fucking gay
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>>179869217
Prove it's you

How much Wendy's can you eat in one sitting
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>>179869131
>>179869105
An even more situational Cunning, what a fucking joke.
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>>179869583
Kek, I was just wondering how many egg mcmuffins I was gonna order (3 or 4). The pic had a kagetokage in it.
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>BBoy, Vet, Blu, and gay people
>Not the prime /dng/ tripfags of the greatest era

A damn shame none of you remember the real heroes. Rest in RIP Raita, Swamp man, Adamant, TripWithEyesOfBlue, Diamante, and Marzepan.
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>>179869598
Hey, hey, now you have 6 (SIX) Cunning.
Enough to base an entire build around.

Will it be good? Damn if I know.
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>>179870226
shut up, retard
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>>179869892
I'll carry the flag still

>>179870226
shut up newfag
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>>179869381
Did he went first or second?
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>>179870376
second, though this was like turn 5 of nothing happening
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>>179870238
Gouki get to special summons 2 monsters from the graveyard with no cost. These summon one while also costing one monster.
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>>179869381
sphere mode
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>>179870226
Shut up, retard.

>>179870308
My nigga. You got some screens?
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>>179870226
what about getter
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>>179870226
>Marzepan
Anybody know the price of number 38? Dude was a retard.
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>>179870226
>RIP Marzepan
Not even once fagboy.
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>>179870530
I wish I screenshotted more.

I think I have BFK replying to himself calling himself ugly

and MeatEaterD replying to his own post shitting on his own decklist

My DB is Judge, add me
I'm not the real vet I just carry the flag.
My old DN was AtomicNiggermare and Nutella Knight

also all these new trips need to leave
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>>179870797
why is that iron core filled with such garbage?
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>>179870818
>AtomicNiggermare
I remember you posted your checkmate rank once, saying you were on the top 10 but the next day i see you back on skill 1500 like a scrub
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>>179870506
But Gouki doesn't have any shit that triggers on SS.
All of their floating effect is also hard OPT.
They also don't have any tuner and their level is all over the place.
It also can't summon their boss monster.

But who am I kidding? It's shit.
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>>179869105
>>179869131
Now wait for Double-Edged Sword Technique except for banished Six Samurai.
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>>179870875
I made that account very recently and didn't post it anywhere.
I only made it because it literally said not name your account "AtomicNiggermare"

It could be that was a person and then DN deleted the account and let it get remade.

OR

That guy was just shitposting saying he was AtomicNiggermare which a lot of people did.

I've never been top 10
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>>179870875
Maybe I was "Atomic Niggermare"
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>>179871031
Nah, it's gonna be Return of the Six Sam to emphasis the mediocrity.
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>>179870797
>>179870840
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>>179870818
For whatever reason DB hasn't sent my confirmation email. I've been using a DB account actually called AtomicNiggermare for testing out some of these new decks and re-familiarizing myself with the cards.
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>>179871226
Why are all the new Samurai so mediocre? Are they scared of making good cards since Gateway of the Six is at 3 in OCG?
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>>179871518
They might be afraid of making six samurais good because they are making the new six slams mediocre because they want to slow down the game
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>>179871518
I think Konami just doesnt want to sell that much of the legacy archetypes that arent from the main heroes and even then their support can be dubious at best.
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I'd rather honestly deal with full powered Six Sams than anything D/D/D or stronger as dumb as that may sound
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>>179871518
I hate when they there's legacy support but the new stuff doesn't mesh well with the older cards and they just create their own shitty engine.
This banishing shit for the new SixSams is stupid.
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Would you run it?
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>>179873471
Probably, i keep attacking my own blue cat with panther dancer, getting the ATK boost (both cat's and panther's) then swing the opponent at full force
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>>179873471
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>>179873471
i'm sure there's some dumb combo you could do involving one of these guys and that card
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>>179872187
>because they want to slow down the game
But they don't. There is no evidence of that.
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>>179874502
Terraforming to 2 :^)
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How much of a thing was the clown control deck? I've heard the name a few times and read a brief wiki about it, but I've never really heard much about it having any sort of relevance in older metas.
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>>179875873
Eh, isn't it duel link things?
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>>179874793
terraforming got hit so that many casual decks become less consistent, forcing those players to buy new cards or Archetypes, especially to BUY LINKS.
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What if one of Spirit Warriors decks is Ninjas? I mean they're Warriors and we're already printing support that is mediocre for the deck and Ninjas are used to that.
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>>179876314
keep at it pal
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What's gonna be the to contender in the OCG meta now? I think Zoo should finally be dead now that it has no broad bull or drident, but who knows with that deck. It's probably gonna be True Draco, but we'll have to see how badly only having 1 copy of digram and 1 master piss actually hurts the deck.
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>>179876457
True Draco remnants, Trickstar, Windwitch stunshit, Cyberse + random engine link decks
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>>179876457
Trickstar Wind Witch. True Draco variants. Maybe some Pend Magicians as a tier 2 option.
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>>179874502
Is them releasing nothing but shit cards for two sets in a row now not evidence enough?
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>decide to get back into the game
>money problems
subscribe
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>>179869381
>time wizard
that is at the same time kinda adorable and kinda gross
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>>179873175
kinda this
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>>179876314
>They're Warriors
>Beast-type
????????
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So are Altergeists doomed to be run together with Spellbooks and Invoked instead of ever being able to stand on their own two legs? Because if that's the case all interest I initially had in the deck is gone.
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>>179887364
Are you saying you wouldn't abuse blue boy for as much card advantage as you could squeeze out of him?
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>>179882338
>wanting to go back
doo it anyways :DD
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>>179887480
Not since he turned into a £15 card.
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>>179887538
You raise a fair point.
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>>179887628
Even if he would have been cheaper I'm still not a fan of letting a weaker archetype piggyback on other stronger archetypes. Like, why run Eidolon Aletergesit when there are way stronger Eidolon hybrids? It's like splashing Zoodiacs in other decks; you're just making the Zoodiac deck worse.
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What the fuck is this
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>>179887886
That's only if the engine you put works exactly the same.

Take Terrortop for example. Zood and PKBA both use Terrortop, but they use it differently.
Heck, by splashing Terror in other deck, said deck can even become better than the original deck, Speedroid in this case.
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>>179889325
Yeah the Terrortop engine is way less offensive in that ay since it enables the decks own plays since they're just a means to and end. But I feel in the Altergesit case they're always going to be second fiddle in the deck in comparison to what the Spellbook and Invoked cards are doing.

Another example is Mecha Phantom Beasts with Windwitches splashed: You're going to be focusing on the Windwitch play first and the MPB plays second, and even then the MPB plays are lackluster so you're only making your Windwitches worse by playing them together.
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>>179890828
MPBs suck but Wind Witches aren't even a deck to start with it.

They are an engine
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>>179890995
Yet they still do more for the deck than any of the MPB cards.
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tell me what deck to play, imagine banlists are not real and fun/power is the only thing that matters.
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>>179892180
Full power Dragon Rulers
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>>179892010
Nothing wrong with throwing engines in bad decks.

Especially if it's small as fuck.
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>>179892384
Yes, but when the engine overshadows the original deck completely it makes you question why you are even running the original cards in the first place.
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Today on "why the fuck is it an archetype?"
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>>179888884
...looks like senet switch. why?
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Hey guys, im planning on making a Gouki Deck after code comes out, but I cant seem to find a list I like.

https://ygorganization.com/letswrestlewithxyzandsynchro/

I found this, but man it feels lame and unfocused. Any advice?
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>>179895871
Cloudians
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>>179895871
Just toss in all the monsters and Rematch at maximum copies, Assault Halberds, and a lot of disruption and play beatdown
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>>179895871
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>>179897023
arent all the goukis warriors tho, not rock?
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>>179897212
you send it with brilliant then link with it and get searches
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>>179897336
so what am I searching to hand? two garnet?
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>>179897414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4FoAjNHZ1k
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>>179897483
thanks anon.
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rata here
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>>179898831
Neck yourself, Rata.
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rata here
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whats the best rank7.dek currently?
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>>179899591
REBD
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>>179899591
Raidraptors. If you have a fixation on going into arsenal falcon and only arsenal falcon.
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>>179887364
what would that deck look like? All the altergeist cards, the invoked stuff, and rudra/secrets/blue boy?

how is that supposed to even work
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>>179894696
It's not. Yugioh Wikia just groups any cards with similar names together like retards. It's two unrelated cards.
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>>179900780
It actually is, though.
If you use Phantom Skyblaster's burn effect, Castel cannot attack.
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top 7 best budget deck
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>>179899301
>>179898831
fuck off rank10s
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>>179900780
Doesn't matter.
They both have "Skyblaster" in their name, and there's at least one card that mentions "Skyblaster" cards by name. It's an archetype.
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>>179900780
What defines an archetype is that at least one of the cards mentions the archetype by card effect. Because Phantom Skyblaster mentions Skyblaster cards, it puts Castel in its Archetype.

The same way how the Odd Synchron is part of multiple different archetypes.
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>>179901042
1. Best Budget Deck
2. 2nd Best Budget Deck
3. 3rd Best Budget Deck
4. 4th Best Budget Deck
5. 5th Best Budget Deck
6. 6th Best Budget Deck
7. 7th Best Budget Deck
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rank7 here
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>>179903627
1/3 of those are playable, 1/20 are good
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>>179903627
To be fair, out of the 8000+ cards, only a few hundred of them (at most) are actually good.
You just have to know what spicy techs you can throw into an otherwise average deck.
>>
rank1ygo here
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>>179904140
How well would a rank 1 spam with Utopia Roots RUM to Utopic Dragon deck work?
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>>179901980
Nah, 4th Best Budget Deck is actually the Best Budget Deck, but they keep trying to run it with multiple copies of Brick card n2, and Brick card n6.
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>>179904289
no idea, i guess you could run a lyrilusc engine in it?
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>>179904289
They have LL.
Casual tier.
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>>179904647
How do you consistently get that first copy of RUM, though?
>>
Six Samurai will make Synchros good again!
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>>179904845
Set Marshalling, then destroy it with Diagram.
Oh wait.
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>>179904845
Just search it with Silent Boots.
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>>179875873
Some rouge stuff utilizing dream clown and shiet back from 2005
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>>179892180
Returndad pre errata, winzektors, emem zood for maximum salt
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>>179906851
>rouge
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>>179892180
Clowndolls are the funnest deck of all time. I wish sincerely we could have Dolls back, so we could make new and improved variations.
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>Mare Mare
>Mare is italian for sea/ocean
>Mare is a name for a female horse
>Mare Mare is fancy way of saying Sea Horse
Fucking cheeky cunts
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>>179873471
There are already cards that can make the monsters the same player controls attack each other. It would be nice if they made more cards that exploit that.
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Has anyone else been trying the new Six Samurai? Asceticism has never been more alive with Genba.
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is this worth anything
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>>179910363
Jesus fucking Christ, a Limited Edition original Red-Eyes? Even if it's not in mint condition, you're looking at $300 minimum for an OG card like that. Mint can push it over $500 easy.
Where'd you find that?
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>>179900295
Shark YgoPro uploaded a video with them.
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>>179914208
>abuses a hard opt effect three times in one turn
he could at least wait until their scripts actually work
>>
How do i play infernity?
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>>179914634
>empty hand
>Special Summon Archfiend
>???
>win
>>
>>179914634

Why?
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>>179914634
Topdeck Archfiend
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>>179914634
Set all the monsters that you didn't want to draw as S/T
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>>179915053
what do you say when you get twistered
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>>179915225
You say they're artifact proxies
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>>179915314
That would get you beat up at my locals boy. Mugged, and maybe raped by big black fat autistic men.
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>>179915225
You just draw Starlight Road and set it with them.
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>>179914634
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>>179915479
Are there any more of those
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>>179916091
/dng/ made a bunch back when fun was allowed
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>>179916329
Things were simpler back then
>>
WHEN WILL SHADDOLLS COME BACK

MAKE THIS PAIN STOP
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>>179917916
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Crawler_Dendrite
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>>179918264
These are a shitty substitute, not the real thing
REAL Shaddolls could be mixed into anything and were FUN
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>>179918508
>muh pure skill super tier dek
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does anyone have the picture with two dantes overlaid for an F0 photoshopped into pornhub
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>>179917916
Ikr. I just want to got to the days and chain el shaddoll fusion, topdeck shaddoll fusion for comebacks, wombocombo into spontaneuous OTKs using fusion, synchro and XYZ plays, and so on.
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>>179916329
▶Is Cydra still good?
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>>179921495
Power Bond OTK will always sack wins, but the deck *really* needs another Level 5
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>>179921646
CyDra needs an armades giver because fuck running into a fucking magical cylinder
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>>179862404
Is your deck something like this?
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...so how do you used masked charmelion right? I keep screwing myself out of plays since i lose non-ed special summons.

Also, does anyone have that YGOpro with the linked summoning support?
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>>179922806
that's a pretty weird bes build. pic related is the one i use, could use some definite improvements but it's given me some wins
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>>179874208
>filename
wrong card
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>>179898831
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How are you even supposed to use the new Shadow six samurai stuff?
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>>179927880
No idea. It's like Konami saw what they did with Twilightsworns and thought "how can we make this even more mediocre?"
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new thread?
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>>179931275
Wait a little.
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>>179927880
Genba is the star of the new support. He should replace Kagemusha completely.
>Level 2 Tuner with 2100 defense
>Asceticism target for Spirit, which makes an instant Shien or lets you attach Spirit to a Shien you made off Kageki
>Making a Shien with him sets up his second effect for more protection
You know what's really cool? When you use Shien's second effect to destroy another Six Samurai in its place, you can banish Genba to just keep both of them. Works to stop Asceticism's destruction effect too. I've yet to use Genba's normal summon effect, though.

Hatsume is okay as a one-of. She's a good Dojo target and you can use her to bring back a dead Shien from your grave for free, which happens too often in the current format. I'm guessing she's meant to be used with the shitty Red/Blue SS build that was popular for maybe a week when LSS came out.

Kizaru is shit because there aren't any good ways to SS him other that Kageki or shit techs. Hoping there's more support that's meant to work with him.

Rihan is missed potential: the card. It's actually not that hard to fulfill his summoning condition, but you can almost always go into Shien instead, so why bother with him? He also doesn't let you banish from the GY to fuel his effect, which makes him double shit.

So far the new cards give Sams a slight power boost, but they're still ultimately where they were before except a bit safer and more consistent. Hope we get another Gateway retrain so we can actually use Kizaru and Rihan.
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>>179931275
90~ to go kid
>>
I want to try and make an Invinvible White Dragon Ninja deck, kinda like how people make invinicible obelisk, but Im not sure how to go about it, Any ideas?
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>>179931483
>I can finally make Shi-En with Junk Synchron
What a time to be alive
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>>179931483
Ah I see, thanks for the analysis.
It's always nice to see people who reply with such detailed posts when people ask for advice/tips.
You're a nice person Anon.
>>
>>179932262
disregard this, i'm an idiot
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>>179931483
>When you use Shien's second effect to destroy another Six Samurai in its place, you can banish Genba to just keep both of them.
Sorry, buddy, it doesn't work that way.

https://ygorganization.com/ocg-060817-weekly-rulings-update/
Q: When my Proxy Dragon would be destroyed by battle or card effect, I apply its effect and destroy a Decoy Dragon linked to it instead. At this time, can I apply the effect of Revival of the Dragon Lords and banish it from my Graveyard instead of destroying Decoy Dragon?
A: If you apply the effect of Proxy Dragon and destroy a Dragon-Type monster linked to it, you cannot apply the effect of a Revival of the Dragon Lords in your Graveyard.
Source: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=13693&keyword=&tag=-1&request_locale=ja
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>>179932410
Either way, Genba is a better Kagemusha in all regards other than making Beast.
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>>179933756
Stun shit alone makes kagemusha more valuable.
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>>179931483
Mind posting a pic of your build?
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Do you have any hopes for the Sneak Peek card and Ritual exclusive?
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>>179901248
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>>179936593
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>>179937323
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>>179937597
That's cute as fuck
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>>179937597
Why is that cute girl's hair a penis?
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>>179938004
I though the "hair" was a cloaked figure grabbing her face from behind.
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>>179938004
Because why not?
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No I am the One Know As Rata
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>>179938004
Why do you fell for the bait?
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>>179938367
rezpek the og
ya fucking cunt
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>>179938618
>doesn't get the joke
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>>179935907
For the ritual to at least not suck horribly and maybe helps all ritual decks in general by providing a powerful ritual search engine.. something like a -ju ritual that searches
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top 3 yugitubers?
Mine are:
1- Yugiohtube (uploads daily and makes good decklist ideas)
2-DrearyDoll (explain his plays and mistakes while showing his loses too)
3-Usagi (cute music, alway do comfy rogue decklist and he dont make vids only about the strong decks)
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>>179940050
>Faze jev
>Michael from rooster teeth
>cowbellytv
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>>179940050
Jadenbr
Sharkygopro
Cardkingdom
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>>179940050
Me ;)
Ygo4rm
Rank10ygo
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>>179940050
end
this
shit
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>>179940050
Yuginono (that old beard man is funny and is actually good)
Dpygo (nigger can be an asshole but he also know this game, probably the one who knows the most)
I don't have a third... yet
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>>179940050
Slaydra
MegacaptialG
Pewdiepie
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>>179940050
>>179940190
>>179940292
>>179940463
kindly off yourselves
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>>179940580
what does that card do?
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>>179940050
Sakazuki for some serious OCG overlord powers
YGO4RealMen because rewatching those old-ass replays are still funny and amazing
and YGOtube because sometimes he uploads some nice stuff even though his vs Meta videos are questionable because sometimes he shows replays where he gets sacked out by rogue decks or irrelevant shit like fluffals or his meta opponents don't have a good field setup
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>>179940580
u forget about him >>179940534
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>>179940050
ygo4realmen was the only decent yugioh related youtube channel, the rest is crap.
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>>179941773
Who literally fell of the face of the planet. Shame he was the best too, his Utopia video is still the best play I've seen.
>>
>>179940050
What are some of the worst/most over rated yugitubers?
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>>179941128
Sakazuki make good vids sometimes anyway most of those overlord powers comes from niconico video.
>opponent dont have a good field setup
or misspays, yeah thoset mostly happen with all yugitubers not only YGOtube, for example there is ygo4realmen.
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>>179942601
Yeah, even ygo4realmen had opponents that played like shit, even his most popular replay where he reks a quasar turbo deck with yusei.dek, the opponent of that duel played like shit, he could've negated the mirror force instead of librarian and could've won
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Speaking of opponents that play like shit, what's the worst opponent you ever had?
Because i had a dumb motherfucker that used solemn warning on sphere mode
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Does PercyPro have Links yet?
I am pretty tired of playing ChinkPro. It's a pain in the ass to build decks when you have to rely Chinese card names or plain card IDs.
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>>179944856
Release date is December. Enjoy, and be sure to donate and take it easy on our coders!
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>>179944856
Just use the english version of chinkpro
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>>179945071
That version is slow to update and is always behind. Which makes it useless half of the time.
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>>179944967
>December
Please tell me you're baiting me
>>
>>179945757
I really thought the second part would give me away
>>
So outside of Terra, are there any other things you want to say about the OCG list before the thread caps?

http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/50225427.html
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>>179948082
Still have no clue why ours isn't the same
>>
>>179944505
this guy >>179869381
the only way he was able to make a play was by opening flute of summoning dragon, lord of d, and 2 blue eyes. after i kicked his ass he said "Bull Shit" and left. it was golden
>>
>>179948732
And we'll never know because konami is shit at communicating with the community.
>>
>>179948732
I'd like to know why raigeki is banned in the OCG while Feather Duster is banned in the TCG. Why not just have both at 1? Or have raigeki at 1 in both and just use TT for backrow removal?
>>
>>179949452
Feather Duster is limited in the OCG because their backrow pool is much stronger. Triple Skill Drain, triple Macro Cosmos, triple Bottomless, triple CED, triple Torrential, and Solemn Judgment just to name a few
>>
>>179948732
Because OCG cards come out first, which means they might ban things before we even get them.

The whole OCG/TCG divide is a nightmare
>>
>>179944856
that hapens a lot in tags
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>>179950856
Except our banlist right now looks nothing like what their banlist looked like back when our new stuff was their new stuff.
That argument would make sense if we'd get the OCG banlist after X months, but we don't.
>>
>>179940050
>Dreary Doll
That shitty ESL?
>>
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>because of region exclusive cards, cards not being released at the same time, and separate ban lists, the world championships are an imaginary format joke instead of the biggest tournament of the year

Is this normal? Do other card games have a complete joke of a world championship?
>>
>>179910743
The fuck are you saying? BPT Red-Eyes is worth $20 tops.
>>
>>179951809
m8 card games are a joke
>>
>Link Infernities is actually really fucking consistent
>Constantly end up with a board 4 bounces, 2 raigeki breaks and 1 barrier

Im glad this deck will never die until they actually ban Archfiend
>>
>>179952209
TCG banlist?
>>
>>179916329
I'd be embarrassed to be seen with this shit, cringey as fuck

t. Cyber Dragon player
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>>179951809
also boring mtg rhino spam
the pkmn streams in general
hearth's probably had some bs
vanguard in the dark
weis mess ups
>>
>>179952329
If it was OCG, you'd have multiple Barriers
>>
should i buy any gx support ahead of time? like cyberdark stuff before they release it in sept if they dont reprint
>>
>>179955961
do you actually want to spend 40+ on that?
>>
>>179955961
No. None of the GX support makes their respective decks meta or even rogue. Cyberdarks and Red-Eyes are still shit.
And even if you're deadset on burning your money on a doa archtype, the only valuable card is Impact, which you shouldn't be running at all.
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>>179940050
Sakazuki Games
Nasubi
Yukura

>1998 + 19
>watching filthy gaijin pigs play instead of glorious OCG Overlords
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>>179940050
>SNOO Games
>Kogarasho
>YGOPRO OTKS
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ded thread post floating effects
>If this card on the field is destroyed by battle or card effect, special summon 1 "Lunalight" from your deck
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>>179962512
>If this card is sent from the field to the graveyard; You can draw 1 card
>tfw you don't want to draw a card and the effect is polite enough to allow you to refuse
>>
>page 10
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>>179965698
Last time I bumped at page 10 I got banned for posting waifu, so I haven't dared to bump.
>>
Is there such a thing as a deck that is hard to play?
And i don't mean hard as in "god this deck sucks shit because it can't get over most situations", i mean hard as in "god how the fuck does this deck works". A deck that's very hard to master and isn't as linear as other decks or the flowcharts aren't just a bunch of routes that connect in a single play
>>
>>179966156
Most petdecks
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>>179966156
Synchro Masturbation, maybe old Infernity combo decks, Nekroz mirrors, Sylvans.
>>
>>179966156
link ddds requiring one to be za perfecto
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>>179966248
I dunno, even my lunas are stupidly linear, its basically 7 different ways to r4nk and just searches tiger, sheep and wolf.
however>>179966260
Holy shit Sylvans might be my answer, how the fuck does this work, its just a bunch of excavation effects with no end goal outside of making a rank8 ot rank 7 sometimes but even then, there's a lot more combos and even a quasar build with silvans and eevn a combo to summon V.F.D..

The last time i heard about Sylvans was mostly because of some stupid combos back when Soul Charge was at 3
>>
I wish we had more meta decks, or at least decks that could compete with them.

Sometimes I want to build stuff but what's the point
>>
>>179966897
You have to find a way to beat the meta decks with a creation of your own
but yeah
I can't do it
Some decks are too braindead broken at this point
>>
>>179966887
Sylvans are great because their relevancy directly scales with Soul Charge. At 1, they're rogue. At 0, they're trash. At 3, they're potentially tier 0.

Is that Rank 1 Sylvan in Tag Force Special or what?
>>
>>179966897
I think there's no such a thing as meta decks anymore, just super splashable engines that boost a random archetype like Metalfoes and Zoodiacs. Yeah the pure-ish builds of these two were more devastating, specially pure zoodiacs becoming 90% of the OCG metagame with Master Peace trying to catchup with Drancia. This general used to praise Master Peace, let that tought sink in.

If anything, what needs to happen is that people shouldn't look down over people who run an engine on a super old as shit archetype, something like Metalfoes Scraps, people would look and say "meh, another metalfoes player" despite half of your plays being scrap related, i just wish that people wouldn't say that you play zoodiacs despite the only zoodiac play you do is just summon bull then overlay drancia.
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>>179966260
>Nekroz mirrors
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>>179967221
>Drancia
Whom?
>>
>>179967575
Dragon tiddies
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>>179966897
if only
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>>179967176
Were Sylvans even tier 0 when HAT was a thing
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>>179967652
>Evilswarm
Man, now i feel sad for Evilswarm players, with link summoning being a thing, Ophion is stupidly irrelevant now
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>>179966156
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>>179967973
Scraps work best with Metalfoes.
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>>179967973
60 cards but no lawnmowing, yeah this is some bullshit i won't understand

Do you got a video of this shit being played or a .webm?
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where da new thread at
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>>179968141
It just werkz. Most of the time at least.
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>>179967762
Good, Verz was stupidly helmet
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>>179968440
Right here

NEW THREAD:

>>179968618
>>179968618
Thread posts: 755
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