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M46 Edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>A discord you can use:
https://discord.gg/kkejYwp

>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Px6G3kvcWbiS-sdIR6r4s7lSwfcxguUgJw95qj0NIzs/

>Sound Mods:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/b0riss-sound-mod/forum/thread/support-for-sound-mod-in-warthunder-165153

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>>179725667
But I am a poorfag NEET too, and its because I have no money to spare on this premium bullshit, especially because premium time is counted by the second, and not when you are only in game, it is not possible to justify to spend any more money than I already have, which is not much.

At the same time I can't justify myself to keep up with the grind now that I've reached a point where everything going forward is just more and more RP, and more and more of the same, and doing so with no premium and in all the frustrating ways this game operates in, and how dull and repetitive all the matches become with the same few limited modes played, I just can't justify doing this anymore, its become a chore more than its become fun.

So now I've reached a point where I have to spend incredible amounts of time to progress in this game that has gotten repetitive, dull and grindy beyond belief. And the further I continue to play, the more time I will spend, and theres no way I'm getting premium in the foreseeable future so the only way I can pay is with my time, which I don't feel this game is worth of anymore.

This level of "F2P" is inhuman, leave it to the greedy jewish slavs at gayjin to come up with such sadistic cruel design. If they put half as much effort into designing fun and enjoyable, variety of gamemodes for RB/AB as they do in thinking up new ways to exploit the people who play and basically force them into premium or make them suffer an ever expanding grind and exponentially growing waste of their time then maybe the game would have been worth continuing to play but it isn't.
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New Patch**

http://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/712

**The buffs to the M103 and M46 are not mentioned but they're in
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>>179726807
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>>179726807
Didn't they change the reload to the M47 as well? Or is that still testing?
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>>179726950
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>activate booster
>take out the totally balans G.55S
>Norway
Oh fuck, the one map that Axis are totally retarded on for some reason.
>half the team does a half-assed climb straight towards the enemy
>half of those who properly climbed dive on the first B-25 they see
>suddenly a cloud of allies appear up top
>engage alongside the few non-retards on my team
>do some fancy shit and manage to bag myself two kills despite being vastly outnumbered
>get a Spit on my tail and begin to fly evasively
>do this for a few minutes whiles screaming for help in the chat
>eventually get down on the deck
>manage to outmanoeuvre him and almost get him
>another enemy comes in and I'm forced to break off or die (in hindsight I should have accepted death and killed the Spit)
>get torn apart by 4 different enemies because my entire team was dead at this point
>I get half the RP I should have gotten for my valiant performance because my team was retarded
Fuck you, Gaijin. My reward shouldn't be tied this much to how retarded my team happens to be.
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>>179726635
>no money
make reference accounts, 1 hour in game flying and ye get 500 shekels
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>>179726635
have you considering giving up on grind and playing for fun? T2 - early T4 are best BRs anyway
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No activity needed for the Ki-61 decal.
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>>179727302
No because the way the game works, once you pass a tier, you have absolutely no desire nor reason to go back, and you only feel like you're delaying the grind for the Tier IV vehicles by playing older tiers you have no use for anymore.

Sadly thats the type of gameplay gayjin has constructed, its just a constant push forward, where the grind is ever longer and more painful to get through, and even having premium by the time you get to Tier IV/V won't be much change, because RP rewards have been nerfed to fuck even for those good goyim who shell out for premium.
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>>179727559
it depends on person I guess, I play mostly 2.7 - 4.3 because that's where I find vehicles I enjoy most, and all I have left for research are jets I never had interest in.
For me grind ended once I had all planes I wanted to fly.
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>>179727559
>you have absolutely no desire nor reason to go back


that is simply not true, I have every plane in the game and I usually stick around tier 2 or 3
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I swear RP and SL rewards are totalled up completely at random. These were two games in Sim with the Falcon one right after the other
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3-Inch Gun Carrier: Garbage or Acceptable? Everything i'm reading suggests exceptionally garbage (trouble hitting and penetrating at long range, no turret and incredibly slow to move and turn at close range, and of course no HE Filler to actually kill things in the first place if you hit).
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>>179727537
so condition is to literally fly one in battle and wait untill all Allies are dead?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc3Xj0Eqa4Q

remember the n1k used to be op?
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https://gdoc.pub/doc/1NqY8HIQgCsuPPHKigw6w_cRdKiabn6yZQ1w0Fwu5K9o
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>>179728324
>battle royale
oh boy
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>>179727787
My problem is I want to try everything, and I'm especially interested in most Tier IV and V stuff, especially jets, Maus, Jumbo, Canberra, F86, etc

Just to fly and drive WWII and late war vehicles no game ever before has let me, and yet now realizing just how painful the grind is, when I researched and completed Tiger II I lost all interest in continuing on to Tiger II 105, and the Maus, and I'm still so far from any jets, I just can't justify spending hundreds more hours on this shit, because I see the plane/tank there and it looks within reach but its fucking thousands of RP which you can without premium at 1-3k a match, but mostly less than 1k sometimes, and with all the frustration and repetitive mundaneness that the game modes provide.

I can of course choose one thing at a time like say Maus or F9F, the closest jet I am to, but that still means I have to research 5-6 more vehicles of the tier before unlocking the next, and have to grind out planes/tanks I don't want to just to unlock the ones I do, each plane/tank now something like 60,000+ RP meaning the amount of time spent for a single one without premium to unlock the next one and next one is just ridiculous and unfair.

Thats how the f2p model gets you, you reach a wall where its no longer feasible to keep playing for free, especially after the last RP nerf, and yet at some point later on even with premium you have vehicles that are 200,000+ RP up to 360,000RP and will take weeks to unlock.

Fuck it, I'm not going to spend any more of my time on this senseless grind, especially because I'm not having fun any more, feeling like I'm just working through a chore, unlocking the next vehicle no longer feels fun because you know theres a long grind ahead for the next one, and the grind you just finished left you feeling just as empty. Yet going back to play older tanks/planes likewise feels empty because fundamentally the game is structured around progressing through the grinds to the next tier.
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>>179728324
>Battle Royale

Will it be with RP/SL rewards?

If not, not interested.
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>>179729295
>interested in most Tier IV and V
Same reason i grinded out some nations.. but dont bother with Maus.
Tier 5 is mostly whoever shoots heat/hesh the fastest
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>Just want to use the Falcon in the sim event
>Four games and not a single Slav plane to be seen
>Never run into any PT-76, Object 906 or ASU's
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>>179729506
I realized that later tiers, jets, etc is pretty much the same as the previous tiers, only the grind is significantly lengthened, but the game modes are the same repetitive shit, tanks are even slower so games tend to happen in similar ways and you notice they all start to feel the same after playing several dozen in a row grinding painfully for the Tiger II.

And thats basically all you have to look forward to, more of the same, only with much more time involved per vehicle you are grinding to get to the next one, fuck that desu
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>spawn on ardennes
>go down, cap C
>go for B
>get sideshot by a T34 )))
>respawn
>get shot
>not even 3 minutes into the battlze
>try to shoot at the guy, think freshly spawned ally will help
>he runs the fuck off of there
>chase the russian cunt
>he shoots at me from over a small hill, less than 200m away
>go after him
>he somehow dissappeared
>driver gets fucked by another tank from the right
>ammoracked by ASU57
I fucking hate rusniggers so fucking much, holy fucking shit
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At Rank III, I know the Achilles and the Churchill Mk III are good, both of which are bang-on 4.0 BR. Am I better off with my third tank being Cromwell I, Sherman II or Crusader AA Mk II? Not sure which of these will cling on best.
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>>179727135
I really with you could apply boosters after a match ends so you don't end up wasting them all.
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WHERE'S MY T-55 ATGM GAIJIN?
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>>179730139
The fact they don't let you do so, is ultimate jewry
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>>179727890
WHOAH
Do you want to tell me, that caps are worth much more than kills?
Who would've thought!
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Is the M60A2 worth the grind? Just reinstalled WT.
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I asked last thread how to record a replay
Well I did but its 180mb 34 seconds full HD
is there a chance to fit it into a webm so I can post it here?
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>>179732917
google "webm for retards". It's what in title, foolproof webm creation tool
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>>179732757
it's one of the hottest meme right now
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>>179730601
in mid-80's along with T-80B and M1A1
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>>179732757
No. The missile is good, but that's a tier 2 module unlock unlike ever other nation's ATGMs, the armor has holes big enough for MGs to kill your breech, and even besides the cupola the armor won't do dick vs ZSU-57s.

You're better off not gimping yourself with the extra weight and getting good at the shooty scooty Sheridan.
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Would a lineup of the first 2 tigers and something else (Pz. IV H, puma, some spaag or the stupa) be viable, or the Panther D is neccessary
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>>179733843
Pic related.
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>>179734264
What the fuck is it with Gaijin and M60 chassis armor holes?
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>>179734465
)))))))))))))))))))))
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>>179734465
lots of tanks have holes.
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>>179734465
They have a lot of curves and that'd hard to model, I guess.

They also gave the T95E1 fucking cast steel armor with its 0.94 modifier instead of the silica composite it had IRL or even just rolled steel.
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Anyone got tips for aiming SPAA at planes, either in arcade or Realistic? Even with a lead indicator it's kind of a luck based thing.
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O, say can you see,
By the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed,
At the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars,
Through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched,
Were so gallantly streaming.
And the rocket's red glare,
The bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night,
That our flag was still there.
Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave,
O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
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>>179734465
Can't let the goyim access to memebunkers like the Russians, or they might lose.
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>>179734782
Reminder that the "axis" gets it at a lower BR
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>activate a booster
>take out the B-29 for maximum SL
>get Peleliu
Is Gaijin doing this on purpose? This is the 4th time today I got fucked after activating a booster. I've had one good match in planes that are usually slam dunks.

At least I won't be angry alone.
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>>179734756
it's a get good sort of skill. You either have the mental agility to calculate the plane speed and direction along with your projectile speed and direction, or you don't.
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>>179734909
As far as I know the Germans first Heat-fs vehicle is the Ru-251 at 6.7, the same BR as the M46. The Russians get it at 5.3 or something like that with the Pt-76.
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>>179734909
>st-a1

Most useless tank got heat-fs((((((((
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>53k online
>tier 1 spaghett RB
>can't find a match in 6+ minutes
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>>179735050
STA-1 has that same shell at 6.3.
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>>179733913
panther is not necessary but much beter than the pz IV H
the rest of your choices are acceptable
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>>179735035
Well, I'm fucking boned then. Thanks anyway.
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>>179735281
Right I forgot the free xp tree was counted.
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>>179734756
Practice in the test drive or in custom battles
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>>179735281
And is also a massive piece of shit.
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>t-44-100 has a )))))))))))) texture inside the barrel and is all shiny and silver
>submit bug report
>awaiting mod confirmation
>check next day
>this
)))))))))))))))))))
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>>179735223
I'm convinced their numbers are less than they say

or that the numbers are global, and NA are around 1-5k players only

I see so many of the same players every new match in RB
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>>179736557
It's better than any other jap t4, desu.
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>>179735050
Daily reminder PT-76 didn't use HEAT-FS.
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>>179736641
>didn't take a screenshot
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>>179736725
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-56T
>A typical ammunition load consists of 24 x OF-350 Frag-HE, 4 x sub-caliber AP-T, 4 x AP-T and 8 x BK-350M HEAT rounds.
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>>179736897
>sub-caliber AP-T

APDS or just a ranging round?
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>>179726553
How do you quickly grind cash? I literally unlocked la5 but didn't have enough cash to unlock it so i kept playing and unlocked next la5 but i didn't even buy the previous one since i don't have cash. I need about 500k to get on track
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Can niggerfaggots be banned for abusing the runway respawn when they're the last person?
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>>179737223
HVAP, just like in WT.
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>>179737223
sub-caliber means any round smaller than bore, APCR, APDS and probably few more.
Technically M830A1 MPAT is subcaliber too, but in general term is used for KE only.
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>>179733279
thanks
I was searching for "webm for idiots" lmao
I made one but it was too big
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>>179737392
Arcade, especially with bombers.
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>>179737530
Passive play.
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>>179734465
>>179734264
Client stability has been improved
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>fly mig15
>kill 1 plane
>waste 30-40 rounds
>600 score
>kill 2 AI tanks
>waste 2-5 37mm rounds or 5-10 23mm
>800 score
hmm
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>>179739651
i know right, i don't even go for kills anymore, i can kill 4-5 AAs or tanks and i have same score as if i'd kill 2 enemy planes. Score system is fucked up in air battles.
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>>179739856
I swear there are times when I'd wish the fighters would just go fight each other and leave me in my stuka alone so I can enjoy strafing and bombing.
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>>179740431
>stuka
Thank you for being easy target when im also bombing ground targets
>t. )))))))
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>>179740571
Why can't nazis have nice things, what did we ever do to you? :(
No seriously though when do their attackers stop being painfully slow flying coffins that aren't worth the time?
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What's the best BR for realistic Nazi tanks.
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>>179740728
>when do their attackers stop being painfully slow flying coffins that aren't worth the time?
when they would stop being that in real life.
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>>179741071
5.7-6.7 and then 7.7-8.0
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>>179741114
What I mean is, so you know at what point in their line they start feeling usable rather than a wasted slot and repair fee? Or is Germany the wrong nation for good attackers?
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>tfw wrecking t29/t34 in your OG heavy tank
why did they remove its best shell tho?
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new ship devblogs when
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>>179743273
Because it was made in the 60's
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>>179740728
>No seriously though when do their attackers stop being painfully slow flying coffins that aren't worth the time?
Get the narwhal. You get to fuck up everything and you're invincible unless you get caught going slow by a spit.24 or beercan.
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>>179744075
1953. Still pretty far from WW2
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>>179745582
Sadly forever away.
Are there any general tips for surviving in hulks like a stuka or hs129 other than hoping for backup or flying over my own airfield, or am I just on borrowed time until a Fighter comes at me?
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WHAT THE FUCK YOU TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS ONLY GOING TO BE PT BOATS SO I STOPPED BROWING THE THREAD WEEKS AGO BUT I JUST SAW FOOTAGE OF DESTROYERS

Do you still need to pay for boats?
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>German "fanboys" crying this hard
GET FUCKED NAZIBOOS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A-xpXnE9Pc
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>>179747671
yes

)))))
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>>179746829
>Are there any general tips for surviving in hulks like a stuka or hs129
Don't fly either of those. The 2x37mm on the Stukas suck shit, 1x37mm on the Duck sucks even harder. The 30mm on the duck is decent, but the airframe is just garbage. The Hs129 is brutally underpowered, meaning if you take even the lightest damage, you'll slowly sink into the ground. Even if you try to pull sharp turns, you'll fall like a stone. Use something like the Me410 with the fiddy mike mike, it can tear assholes apart with HVAP and flies very well. The Horten is also really good. I haven't really seen the 50mm Me262 used much, I'm not sure how well it would work. The Duck 75mm has better pen, but it feels shitty desu, so I wouldn't expect the 50mm to be any better.
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>>179747671
>Do you still need to pay for boats?
Yes, it's still in a pre-beta testing stage, tests are still being held irregularly, so there's no point in paying yet. Gameplay isn't good yet, but it has promise.

https://my.mixtape.moe/gadxat.webm
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>>179748161
Is the Russian Navy still the best one like when it was only PT baots, despite having the worst Navy of the war?
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>>179748167
Me 262's 50 has the same pen as the pz III MBT, iirc, so you're not going to kill anyone in one hit from the front, but you don't need to because you can shoot through the roof of your enemies. Also, it's got a much better rof than the 75.
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>>179748231
The only ships that have been available for testing yet are these two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soobrazitelnyy-class_destroyer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal-class_destroyer_(1936)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziwCiVEwPh8
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>>179735223
this game has too many game modes
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>>179739651
the guy who killed ai tanks also gets like half a dozen times less silver though and i think much less blue lamps too
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Tiny Tims for CAS?
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>>179740431
at least stuka has a tail gunner

now that piece of shit btd-1...
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>>179749975
Yes.
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Are German BnZ fighters the D-13 still the worst fighters in the game?
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>>179750607
They aren't and literally never were.
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>>179750607
no? they were never the worst fighters in the game
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>>179750659
>>179750674
t. slavs and spitniggers
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How's german 6.7? last time i played it i usually got so raped by t34s, t29s ,is-3s and is-6s so i started playing soviets and i got to t44 and im wondering how is it now.
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>>179750607
german fighters need skill
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What's the best tree for an ace combat fan? tried getting those sexy italian jets but they are still in beta
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>>179751231
The best tree for you is suicide.
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>"oh, the 79th AD decal looks pretty cool, what does it take to get that?"
>200 GE only
>"okay what about the russian decal?"
>25 wins with fucking 70% battle activity in GF
>or just pay 200 GE )))))
fucking christ
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>>179751157
>go to altitude where german fighter perform well
>spitniggers outperform in every aspect
>all other types of planes are low to the ground where german planes are shit
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can you unlock shamrock with the american ki-61?
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>>179750020
>Peice of shit BTD-1

You're just shit at using it, clearly. I can out turn germs with a 2000 pounder on board. Plus it works decently as an interceptor.
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>>179752715
>I can out turn germs with a 2000 pounder on board.

good for you if you meet germans who agree to turn fight

>Plus it works decently as an interceptor

how about i pick a real interceptor if i want one, with better weapon and stuff
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Why no French tree?
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>>179751807
update: if you take out a plane and the match ends while you're flying it, it doesn't count for the decal even if you have over 70% battle activity
fucking awesome
gaijin firebombed when?
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>>179752925
Huge hole between 1940-1945 unless you count lend lease and napkinwaffen.
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>>179752865
>He doesn't believe in multi-role
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Let's face it, they will add it at some point. Question is when and what will they do to keep butthurt of other nations to minimum.
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>>179753779
Super sabre for the burgs
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>>179753998
What about other nations, bongs, germs, japs etc.
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>>179753998
Supersabre weighs about twice as much.
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>>179753779
>>179753998
>>179754067
>>179754242


I was watching documentary about mig family and at some point they talked about 1st early guided missles. Apparently they only worked where the target was flying straight without any manouvers. When targer was trying to evade missle it simply lost track of the plane. This acutally could be implemented in the game. If you fly straight missle will lock on you but if you turn etc it won't. Not to OP but also new mechanic that would allow another tier of planes to be added. Not just 1st generation of jets.
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>>179754436
Were these radar guided or something? Semi-active?
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>>179754436
the vast majority of air kills were done with guns until the '70s/'80s
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>>179753779
F-4 Phantom for the US, German F-4 for the Germans, Jap F-4 for the Japs and maybe a late model hunter or something for the Brits and an Italina F-4 (if they used it, i don't know).
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>>179754067
Sabre dog would probably be the best they could do for naziboos and japs. Next step would be the F-104 and MiG-21.

>>179754242
The F-100 and MiG-19 had comparable performance.

>>179754623
Please do not tell lies.
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>>179754779
starfighter for the italians
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>>179754605
I forgot but it was here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZCV4a8arQQ
very nice documentary.
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>>179754840
If they're going to add the sabre dog, they'd have to be okay with allowing unguided missile slinging interceptors into the game like the F-94. They said they won't put in fighter aircraft without a main armament, but they threw in ATGM's after they said they wouldn't go for that so. Who knows.
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>>179754840
shid I thought
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>>179754840
>MIG-17
>20MM gunpod
>4.5 kills
did they shot one plane and it broke in half? did one side flew back and other did not?
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>>179755015
They'll do anything to keep the game fresh and get new players at some point people will get bored.
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>>179755015
If/when they add the sabre dog I seriously hope they add the K and not the D. The Mighty mouse was a fucking joke and Gaijin knows it which is at least part of why they don't want to add it to the game. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale

>>179755087
That's what assists look like in real life.
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>>179755087
half(kills are either shared or done half with a part, half with another
if you shot a missile on an aircraft and damaged it without causing it to crash, and you finish it off with guns, it counts as a half kill for both weapons
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As someone who frankly just knows 'tank shells go fast and then explode except when they're british apparently', what's the importance of APCR being available on the Sherman II? As in what's so good about it?
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>>179755087
they shot one friendly down so they had to detract .5 from their score
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>>179749386
what the fuck
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>>179749386
So does more fuel mean your plane can take higher Gs or did the fm just bug?
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>>179755380
APCR is like normal AP but instead of being a big piece of metal it's a smaller piece of metal so since there's less weight it goes faster, and it's more rigid, but also more brittle, so vs a flat plate it penetrates better but vs an angled plate it penetrates worse or shatters.

tl;dr it's good vs dumb boxes like what germans have but bad vs dumb pyramids like what slavs have and also it shoots straighter
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Sergeant york when
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>>179756205
Never. Claps aren't allowed to have a spaag that can't be hull broken.
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>>179756279
But the germs are?
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>>179755791
it offsets the center of mass or something

this is just for 190 antons and maybe ta 152s btw
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>>179756651
Clearly.
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>>179756160
Cheers guv. So it'll kill what's already killable and fail against what's already invulnerable. Sounds great.
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>>179756860
There's a reason you'll see people say it's literally the worst shell in the game.
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>>179756968
Well, at least this saves me actually wasting my time researching the Sherman II. I'm just trying to beeline to Rank III so I can get the Churchill III and Achilles anyway and then some shitty tank can take third place I guess.
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>Unlock the Yak-3
>Decide to start grinding out of stock
>Start clubbing burgers left and right despite it being stock
Holy shit. Is the Yak-3P even more broken?
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>>179757061
Yes. It ought to be 5.7 but they'll never do it.
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>>179756205
>tfw neither america nor britain will get the Skink at 3.7/4.0 as an answer to the lack of decent AA like the Wirbelwind
>even if it was added, it would most likely be premium because ))))))))))
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>179757234
It ought to be a premium. It's not a major nation and it's a prototype.
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When?
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>>179757234
What's it armed with

20mm??
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>>179757217
I mean, burger teams are retarded, but it was like playing tier I AB again. It was just me killing planes with they being barely able to fight back, and landing in the airfield a couple of times to reload. I wonder if japs and germans are any harder.
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>>179757590
20mm Polsten guns I think
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>>179757590
4 polstens.
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*kills pilot*

when?
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>>179757864
i rather have a draken or mirageIII
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really there was some german 20 something guy who shot down like 120 heavy bombers... inb4 bubi, shooting down heavy bombers at night is way more spectacular than boom zooming some ils
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SOON.

(Still doesn't change the fact that I only have 440k silver shekels though...
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>>179758931
how many minutes of fuel does that thing have?
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>>179759485
6ish
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before playing warthunder i have read that rocket fighters had had like half a dozen minutes of fuel and was like "wtf how did they even fight", nowadays i know that 5 minutes of fuel is a lot, lol
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>>179759983
XD
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>>179760180
but really
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>>179759485
>>179759619
1 minute minimum. But it has greater acceleration that at full fuel.
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New to the game

How the fuck do you kill a T-50?
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>>179760597
what are you in
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>>179760631
early Panzer 4 and mid Panzer 3 (e and f)
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>>179760865
use a stug
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>Russian Navy will be superior to the Japanese, British, and US Navies
Fuck these shitty devs
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>camo I was about to unlock is now at 280/280 kills but I can't use it
Is this normal?
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>>179760992
there are still enough shills in this thread alone to keep the game alive
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>>179760992
>>Russian Navy will be superior to the Japanese, British, and US Navies
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>haven't played WT in about a year and a half
>try playing 8.0 realistic tanks
>missiles and leo a1a1s everywhere
>literally getting shot by people from behind hills on sinai

I'm amazed they managed to make this game worse.
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>>179761756
+ 10 goldammo!
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>trying to spade all pastas
>reach G.91 pre-serie
how do people play this thing and is the R/1 more of an improvement than the statcard suggests?
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>>179761097
when will this game die?
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>>179761756
get good
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>>179761734
Take a look at tanks and planes

))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>179759983
5 minutes of fuel is fucking nothing, even in WT. Also, they fought by rocketing to 30,000 ft then gliding.
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>>179762129

t. nigger leo driver
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>>179762553
>sent from my FAIR and BALANCED slav bouncehouse
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>>179763090
kid, that's how armor is suppose to work

I know its hard for a 15 yo to understand physics
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>>179763267
>armor is supposed to be completely impenetrable but only if it's Russian
Yes anon, that's how physics works.
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>>179763267
>>179763090
>>179763565
>>179762553
>>179761756
>>179762553
>>179762129
Hmmmm
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>dunk on a retarded burger
>begins crying in chat
>starts messaging me so he can continue his whining
>three hours later he wants to friend me and be my squad mate
Regardless of his attitude I can't help but feel disgusted when an absolute drooler asks to be my squad mate
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A small ugly man covered in body hair. The first thing you notice is his smell. Vodka and urine. He has a skinny frame, oily skin and hair. Slimy. Oozing shit and grease from his pores. A thin pathetic moustache. Pitiful.

He pulls down his pants to reveal a small penis surrounded by a mane of smelly greasy pubic hair. He turns around and I see his buttocks smiling at me. His butt is covered in more coarse hair, black. Small cheeks. He bends over and parts his cheeks. A waft of pure poo fills the air. The black hair is thickest here, with a brown hue. Dangle berries can be found. Yesterday's shit clinging on to life. The poo is a light brown, like everything around him. He uses his hands to part the mattered poo hair to reveal a little brown butthole. Caked in poo. Disgusting. The epicentre of filth. An ugly crater. A dirty yet prolific anus.

The Slav
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>>179760934
is not the stug gun the same as the panzer iv?
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>>179764239
it's got almost 100mm of pen at tier 1, so yeah. unless you are playing a higher tier
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>>179750924
Its cancer

Stick to low tiers with Germany, highest you should play is like 4.7

Still fun there
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>>179763090

>slav bouncehouse
>he's still failing to pen shots at a BR where everyone has 400mm of penetration
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>>179760992
implying
warthunder will pander to weebs

>>179762232
russian plons are so-so, but soviet teams are often pretty good outside of the ru server because every lowskill player and their mother aims at american and british plons

dunno about tanks but afaik t-34 were nerfed ages ago
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right now germany and italy are like automatic win at around br 4, japs too but for them it was always the case and their repair costs reflect it (and they are also one of the reasons for it, only the fittest can play with those costs)
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>Fighting a Spacefire while in a Ki-61
>He's overtop of me, makes a deflection but misses
>commence the turn fight
>Do several revolutions, he's starting to gain on me
>Pop the gear, pop landing flaps, move the gear back up
>drag allows me to turn tighter, and blast him out of the sky
)))))))))))
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>>179766902
btw i was told yesterday that if you remove compressor from modifications, ki-61 can wep like forever

it's true, she can, but without compressor she has less power overall and i am not sure if there is any gain in it

have anybody tried something liek that? i am thinking to do some tests today, i already tried to climb to 3km with and without compressor, wep from time to time to avoid overheating in the former case and wep non stop in the latter case, they both climbed in like 3 minutes without any noticeable difference...
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>he doesn't use a M41, M60, M56, and AD-2 lineup in RB while listening to Vietnam war songs
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>>179768409
do you fight germans with that vietnam set-up?
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would you trust your plane to a mechanic looking like that?
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>>179768409
>forgetting the Sheridan and M48
Vietnam actually makes a solid lineup, too bad there's no F-4 to complete it.
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>>179768880
>vietnam map
>only Jungle map is in the Shitcific
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>>179768979
Weren't they making a Vietnam map a few months ago?
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what was meant by this
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>>179771353
>name themselves fancily
>add 1 to the end of the name

also they reduced requirements for a lot of camo (and increased them for a whole lot too) and those that got their new requirements lower than the frags that you already got are opened after a battle
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>>179771557
neat
it's better than my previous name, fuck gaijin limiting name changes.
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>>179771557

The requirements weren't too offensive except to the attackers/bombers, but no one really cares and people whined loud enough to keep them from not pushing the bomber changes. Attackers stayed. Hope you enjoy 900+ ground unit kills in the IL-2M.
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>>179772350
actually people complained on the ru forum that large bombers were forced to kill ground targets to unlock camos (and they got those requirements increased) and gaijin promised to change it somehow in the future, to add requirements to bomb bases or something, it will be much later than 14th june ofc

i only hope they also fix requirements for the decals too, those like sugar's blues, take off time etc
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>Jap Bf109 E7s vs American Ki61 otsu(s)
>Jap 109s kill steal from you

...
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>>179768880
Would rather a A-6 Intruder
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Eurocanards when
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>>179774053
>tfw AC7 in VR soonâ„¢
Can't wait to drop WT for my true planefu
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How much longer will Gaijin allow M46s to continue their bullying?
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>>179774297
>F-15
>not the F-14
You still have pretty good taste anyway
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>>179774297
>>179776395
>Am*r*c*n planes
ew
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>>179776519
>only capable of mach 1
>no air-to-air kills
>french
Absolutely disgusting
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Anyone know where i can find the tri arrow decal i get from the italy beta test?
I just got my 7th arrow and i cant find it anywhere
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>>179776876
Anon you forgot some,
>cant carry AiM-54s
>isn't a Grumman plane
>has tiny engines
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>>179776876
>>no air-to-air kills
burgers are proud they shot down some plons that were like at least a decade older while the burgers also had an overwhelming air superiority
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>>179777270
t. europoor posting from his government provided cuckshed
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>>179777270
102 - 0
0
2

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0
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>>179777270
How do you think that air superiority was achieved, my little eurokike? ;)
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>>179780158
>How do you think that air superiority was achieved, my little eurokike?

mostly by having a lot of patriots etc crap
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>>179780526
>there are eurosemens that actually believe this
lol!
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>>179780526
>the united states achieved air superiority with ground based AA
What the fuck am I reading?
>>
What is the best jet in the game and why is it still the F2 sabre?
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>>179781019
it's that italian jet from the end of 50ss
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About to unlock PT-76 soon. I just tested it holy fuck that stabilizer feels game breaking.
What should I realistically expect when i unlock HEAT-FS?
>>
also anybody read "fighter combat tactics and manoeuvring" by robert l. shaw?

can it help to play rb better, lol
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>>179781362
having to snipe ammo racks to actually deal damage
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>>179780797
that's true though
superior aa + like 10 planes for each enemy one = american air superiority
>>
ship devblogs when
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>>179782565
jap dds in wt when
>>
How to get good with mig-15bis? All i get are fucking sparks and I literally don't know what the fuck to do when a Sabre F-2 is behind my ass other than run to the nearest friendly
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>>179782816
Use your superior thrust to weight ratio to your advantage.
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>>179783267
my acceleration? I only thing I can legit kill are B-57s. I have a lot of trouble getting within 200-300m to get guns on a sabre
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>>179784142
not that guy but the first thing to do it's probably to check some youtube vids
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Jesus, the P-63 fucking sucks, doesn't it? It can't compete with any of its opponents in any way in RB. Everything you face out-speeds, out-maneuvers and out-guns you. The 37mm cannon is basically a joke for anything besides bomber hunting. You're totally fucked against Italian planes.
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>>179785801
>Italian planes literally out-perform everything now

What a surprise.
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>>179785801
literally most of what you said except for the part about the armament is completely fucking false

get fucking good, the kingcobras are some of the best american planes
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>>179786260
>g55 cant catch me on deck in my Vickers p
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>>179786818
>Russians have better speed and maneuverability
>Germans climb better
>Japs have better maneuverability and can just out-dodge you forever
>Brits have Spitfires

There's no reason to fly the Kingcobra over anything else in the American tree at its tier. It's "okay" at everything, but as a result is more or less useless against someone who understands their own aircraft. If you die to a Kingcobra, you are playing really wrong.
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>emblem for ""continuously" logging into War Thunder for 4 years

First of all what does "continuously" mean? Secondly does anyone even have it?
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>>179785801
they used to have great climb, second only to cannon bearcat, but it was nerfed to shit about year ago
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>take the outside path into the hills and trees
>get lit up like a christmas tree due to no cover and shit concealment

>take the road/river side
>get sniped by every single person that normally watches it

>push out mid
>get destroyed by one of the dozen angles people hold on C

So basically every match turns into a 'who can snipe who better'

This is just a fucking joke at this point. So many maps are built like a MOBA.
>>
>When you isolate the one T-34100 as you wipe out his entire team, only to have him rage in all-chat and eventually rage quit

Feels good.
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>>179756205
Turret looks like american version of coelian.
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>>179757234
>prototype
>only few made
It fits all the regulations to be premium. Vehicles like brumbar shouldn't be premium since they made the similiar amount to KV-2s, Sturmtiger if added should be premium.
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>>179758285
Mirage will probably be added when baguette planes will be added. Draken has little chance unless there will be international tree. Starfighter has a higher chance of getting added sinc they were used by burgers and gerams and there was 9 version from A to J. So they could add few of them instead of just one.
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>>179772350
>900+ ground unit kills in the IL-2M.
People move furter before they even get 200.
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Anybody here makes camos? In what program do you make them? I'd like to try making some historical since pretty much nobody does them for planes i want.
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>>179787907
You know that daily login thing that gives boosters? Get it to day 1460.
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>>179791019
how about 900 ground kills in... ba-dum-tss! lancaster?

it's requirements for one its pin-up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkAp5gAYDUQ
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>>179791131
gimp works well but I have yet to figure how chromemaps work
>>
friendly reminder that the Griffon Spitfires are perfectly balanced at their BR and it is 100% okay that they fight 5.3 br aircraft.
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>>179793052
they turn worse than lf mk ix :^)
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>>179787907
>>179791537
>tfw i got to day 940
I was hoping that at each mile stolne like 500 i'd get something cool like golden pigeons.
>>
>>179793910
>gaijin giving away stuff

lol
>>
>warblunder
>>
>>179754870
And Germany too.
FM must make sure 90% of German losses are due to accidents.
>>
Look Up Tables for FM WHEN?
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>>179794153
They used to back in the day.
Like years ago they gave away the Slav Kingcobra for like a mere 25 kills in RB.

Nowadays they'd demand you to grind the same plane for a month by doing daily tasks like kill 100 planes in RB while flying an attacker.
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>>179795251
The slav kingcobra has to be one of the best premiums in terms for grinding. An uptiered plane with it's original BR while being decent enough to get at least one kill.
>>
>>179791560
Bomb right base on Norway 90 times ))))
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>>179795251
Back in the day it was "get 25 kills anytime during this 3 week period and earn 500 golden eagles" Nowadays it's "win 50 matches a day every day for an entire month"

Wagers were a fucking mistake.
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>>179795220
>FSX garbo standards

Absolutely worthless for anything smaller than a jumbojet or faster than a cessna.
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>>179796646
LUT can be as complex and as precise as you want it to be.
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>>179797176
>Gaijin
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REMINDER THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PLAY AGAINST HIGHER BR TANKS IF YOU DONT WANT TO

also good for skipping shit maps like frozen pass and ash river
>>
>>179797234
Good point.
>>
>>179797282
how is it possible to be that kind of shitter and in tier 4
>>
>>179797282
But what about the 8 minute fuck-you-timer?
>>
>>179797430
It says there in the picture. Reserve tanks don't get crew locked.
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>>179797430
there is no fuck you timer, check the last paragraph

>>179797386
aww little p2w baby boy is upset because he wont get to stomp
>>
>>179797578
> su-100 in 7.7 game
>9 kills

no really, go back to wot or something, you're just shitter, ye cant even get kill in max downtier games
>>
>>179797578
>call others p2w baby boy
>literally has premium in his line up
>>
>>179797578
You just suck at game faggot, im getting matched against is-3s and t-54s in my king tiger and i still manage to get kills, you're just pussy who can't play unless everything is laid out for oyu.
>wahh wahh there are tanks that have higer br than my top tier meaning i won't have easy game?
>THEN IM GONING TO QUIT HAHAHAH I BROKE THE SYSTEM
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>>179797282
>needs downtier
>has ULQ
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>>179797861
>posts a black rectangle
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>>179797952
kek
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>>179797282
>shitter
>uses premium despite calling others p2w
>lower graphics becasue can't play with foliage since he's getting ass raped by skilled players so does anything that gives him unfair advatnage
Yep, typical shitter alright.
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>>179797790
The TB3 was an event vehicle...
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>>179798179
>>179797790
>tb3
>premium

your new is showing
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>>179733913

Tiger II (P), any PAnther before Panther II, Sturer Emil and Jagdpanther is the best lineup I've ever played. You'll end up being undertiered 40% of the time, and nothing on same tier comes close to them. Prepare yourself to a clubfest and making shitton money
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>>179797282
GODS WORK

friendly reminder to ruin matches for others by J-ing out if they are about to kill you as well
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>>179798798
also if enemy is near and you dont have time to J out before he hits you, just press esc and leave vehicle, its instant suicide and faster than J
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>>179733913
anything in tier 3 germans is literally perfect for seal clubbing, even tiger 2 P is good. Don't have anything over 6.0 and you'll be fine.
>>
>>179797282
Despite people bitching about it, this may be the only viable tactic outside of sim battles to spade things like the severely upteired M4A3E2 76
>>
>CR.32
>DELET every plane that makes the mistake of flying in front of me with a short burst
>mfw
>>
that warbond task for 5 crits is surprisingly hard, i keep shooting down people without getting any crits again and again...
>>
Starting from absolutely zero, how long would it take to get to the Panther A or to something top tier with 7.0 battle rating?
Is there any quick/easy way to do it?
>>
I test drove the Chieftain and every time I fire the main gun the 12.7 MG also fires a small burst simultaneously. Is there a way to just fire the main gun? The MG is useless on the Chieftain.
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>>179800234
I believe you can set the key binding for firing your secondary weapon and it will work for that gun. I set mine to R and that fires things like the 37mm on the M6A1 or the 75mm on the Maus. Also, that .50 mg is a rangefinding gun. IIRC it is set to impact at the same point as the HESH round. Pretty useful against Ruskies at long range.
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why the fuck did they add mexican planes to the game?

i mean who the fuck even cares bout them
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>>179800565
I DO

MEXICAN PRIDE RIGHT HERE, LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON WHY WW2 WAS WON
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>>179800446
Wouldn't it still be easier just to fire the laser pointing APDS at long range instead? I mean what could ruskies possibly do at long range against a hull down Chieftain?
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>>179800229
>Is there any quick/easy way to do it?
money
but if you're looking for non paying way then RB, i got to tier 4 in soviets after 2 months of casual playing.
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>>179800565
TACO PRIDE WORLD WIDE GRINGO
AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY
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>>179801028
Too bad tier 4 is the least fun, most unbalanced tier overall, including Soviets.

Unless you buy the IS6 that is.
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>>179800723
Can't the later HEAT-FS round penetrate the turret on the chieftain? And yeah APDS is better but it might bounce and doesn't one-shot as much as HESH.
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>>179801028
>2 months of casual play
I guess that would be 1 month if I really tried
fuck, I don't really care about WW2 stuff, but everything else would take too much time
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>>179799576
I wish I had that problem. I crit like it's going out of fashion but never down anyone.
That or sparks. Or 'hit'.
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Is hesh mainly a britbong thing or is it pretty common when you get to higher tiers?
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>>179801484
Brits get it on all tier 5 and some tier 4 tanks and spgs, Americans, Germans, and Japan get it on tier 5 tanks with the 90mm or 105mm cannon.
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>>179801484
All L7 guns have it and now the German and American 90mm on the 251/Jgpz 4-5 and the M48 have it. It's common amongst NATO tanks so the only top tier tanks that lack it are the Russians. Britain has the best HESH though with the 183mm FV4005 and the 120mm on the cheiftain and conquerer
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>Vickers MBT

What, did they add this after the patch?
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>>179802472
no
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how does someone boom and zoom while enemy planes above you?

people keep telling me to do this with american planes, so I zoom climb then dive away but I never hit them and they get on my 6 and kill me
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>>179803073
>boom and zoom
>so I zoom climb then dive away
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>>179803398
make peace not war!

also i think that stuff is called high yo-yo or something
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>>179803073
Reminds me of that reddit post in the morning about some shitter complaining that his P-36s and P-40s are shit and can't fight biplanes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/6h6qip/any_reason_why_should_i_use_the_p36_or_p40e_over/

>current P-40
>can't climb

There are people this shit.
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>>179803641
>old p-40
>1800 feet/minute climb rate w/o high octane

Ahhhh the reason my friends quit American tree.
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Modern tanks returning when?
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>>179803960
>that killcam
what
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>>179803840
Old P-40 was quite lacking at 2.7 I agree.

But current P-40 is a monster, especially at 2.3.
How can somebody be so bad that he thinks the P-26 is better than the current P-40
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>>179804038
There was another tank right next to the one I killed, which proc'd the cam for some reason.
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>>179804072
Shit dude i was talking about it back when I last played it when WT still had 20 tiers.
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>>179804127
oh, I see, didn't notice the killfeed sayingM42
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>>179803073
>how does someone boom and zoom while enemy planes above you?
You don't, the essential requirement for Boom and Zoom is that you're high and the enemy is low.

Zooming up to the target only works if
>you have massive speed
>the altitude difference isn't very significant
>the enemy doesn't see you coming
>the enemy doesn't have any speed
In most cases the enemy will see you, he'll zoom climb, you'll stall before catching him, and then he'll be the one pouncing you with an energy advantage while your plane is too slow to move out of the way.
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>>179803073
>people keep telling me to do this
They probably saw this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOmXaetv5aE
I love how this retard talks like he's reinventing the wheel when it comes to tactics in this game
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>>179804204
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>>179804848
what did he call spawn camping? pushing the spawn?
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Why does the Nvidia Ansel camera endlessly rise? It's basically impossible to use.
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>>179805593
Nevermind, it was detecting my joystick.
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How good would the M2/M3 be with Raufoss Mk112 rounds?
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>>179798179
Wha tif I told you I used ULQ because that's literally as high as my piece of shit toaster can run
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>>179807038
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>>179807038
So are you the IT1 nigger?
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>>179797282
I used to do this a good while back when I was driving the Easy 8. Any time I would see a Bulldog or M36 on my team I would just spawn reserve. Thing is the more I played the Easy 8 the more I seemed to see the Bulldog or M36. Ending up being max uptier around 25% of the time the other 75% being 5.7. Figured I would rather just face KTs and T-44s then keep being a bitch.
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>>179807161
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>>179807451
>>179807161
>>179807038
where do i unsubscribe?
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>>179807507
>filter
>Super-Resolution
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>need the last win for the daily arrow
>american teams always lose
>do good in 5 games
>get 5 losses
>do get shot down early in one
>it's the only win but the battle activity is too low for it to count

i am so fed up with this bullshit
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Any tips on using Matilda? Slow as shit and I'm going to bet the gun is inaccurate or not strong enough or just can't kill shit it pens or literally all of the above. My only hope is that it's as armoured as 'heavy tank' suggests and doesn't have huge glaring weak spots.
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>>179808572
all british tanks suck until they get APDS because russia doesnt believe that anything without stalin as HE filler himself shouldnt do damage
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>>179808742
>just checked it out in armour view
>it has giant glaring weak spots on the front, both sides, that even with angling can only realistically get to make 70mm effective at absolute most and that's if you hit the slope, like 25mm effective if you hit the big flat bits that are really easy to hit

why
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>2 pe-8 and 1 La-7 camping airfield
>2 dumbasses Ki-61 get rekt by their AAA
>only me and another zero
>two of the three faggots bail out when they're about to get killed, no kills
This shit is cancer desu
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>>179808852
there is a layer of armour behind it the nose of the tank is shaped alot like bt5 for example
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>>179808852
That's just cover, it actually has a wedge nose like the MK I or the BTs.
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>>179809524
>>179809727
Oh, so something that gets through that still has to get through the armour behind that?
Thank christ, was having heart attacks at the idea of the weakspot being THAT glaring. I played Brit tanks years ago in WoT and I remember just giving up in despair on realising that there was basically no way to NOT have a massive, easy-to-hit weak spot on display regardless of your angling or being hull down or etc.
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https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/349898-countermeasures-against-forbidden-modifications/#comment-7020545

Any recognized names?
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How's >boats these days?
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>been consistently getting 4k RP in casual matches with my M46 after buff

I'm in love
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>>179811135
Whatever,

You guys never had that round

Gajin just gave it to you for funsies
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friendly reminder that papertanks are fine
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>>179811909
Isn't the Panther II with schmalturm completly ahistorical? The schmalturm wasn't even around when the krauts gave up on the Panther II project.
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So after I'm done researching my T32 should I continue going for the T95E1 or try and get through the Patton line with the HEAT-FS buff?
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>>179812035
>gave up on the Panther II project
they gave up panther project around 1943.. so around time they finished panther D
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>>179810209
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>cant use the jap tail marking on a ki61, simply because there's already tail-marking on all the ki61s in game

!!!!
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>>179814201
))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>179814293
Slapped it on the ki44s and 84s

It looks nice on the brown skin of the ki84ko
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>>179812035
It is.
The Panther II never had a finished turret but even if you go with what was sorta planned even then the current Panther II is pure fiction since the vehicle was never supposed to be armed with an 88mm but rather a 75mm gun.
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>>179802472
Yes
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So what do you think Gaijin will be 'giving out for free' during this year's summer madness?
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>>179808912
>Slavs are niggers of the snow

shocking.
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>>179815804
Something slav
Something spaghetti

but I forget, what was last years like?
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>>179812035
Panther II chassis was found at the MAN facility in April 1945 with no turret but with test weights on.

Several turrets designs were suggested and one of them was the schmalturm turret used on the Panther Ausf. F. Another was a different schmalturm turret.

schmalturm just means narrow turret or tower.
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>>179816426
Uhu
Grant
Tigercat
KV
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>>179816735
I always thought the Panther F never acutally made it to the battlefield
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>>179817201
>uhu and tigercat
Damn those are actually worth grinding for, if this summer is something that good I may go for it.
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>>179817274
IDK. There's photos of complete Panther Ausf. F's hauls with turret visible nearby on the factory floor.

I believe there's a rumor where at least one Panther Ausf. F was loaded onto a traincar and was being sent to the front. But it was bombed by allies.
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This is my favourite plane of WW2.
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>>179817643
>tfw been playing since 2013 but have always missed the summer event due to vacations
It's like they always start on the day before departure.
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>>179818112
what the flying fuck is that?
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They tried to turn the FW189 into a ground attack plane by replacing the cockpit with a really small armoured one.

Had 2 mg151/20 iirc
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>>179819640
competitor for hs 129
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>>179818112
Looks like the worst plane ever
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>>179818112
Some sort of Nazi bootleg Lightning?
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>>179820521
FW189 turned into a ground attack plane.
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>logged in after a long break
>new game mode: assault
>great, let's try it!
>getting rekt in every match because artillery gets wiped out and teammates can't protect it

What is interesting - i was able to win 2 matches in this mode on the day i logged in, but since then i can't get a single victory in this mode, no matter what i do.
Also is AI tank BR affected by player's tank BR? I have 5.7-6.3 german setup and 5.0-5.3 Soviet, but AI had same tanks all the time.
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>>179818112
>>179819640
>>179820014
>>179821692
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>>179822908
Sexy is as fuck.
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>>179822908
>659 players online
They should just pull out the plug at this point
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>>179823376
Yes
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>>179822370
The BR ranges are pretty big, I see the same shit in 6.3 as I do in 8.0
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>>179822908
>make it a ground attacker by adding the cockpit from an IL-2
Genius.
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>>179823376
That screenshot is dated 2015.
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>>179824208
I should check now.
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WoWP has all the cool planes.

EU isn't too dead, although MOBA gameplay doesn't really make the game too fun
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>>179824905
hmmm
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The Russians have a low tier ground attack plane that can be equipped with 10 Shkas machine guns.

brrrrr
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>>179825308
what?
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>>179825409
He's talking about World of Invented Planes
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>>179825160
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>>179777270
Fucking even iranians got air kills with the tomcat nigga
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>Play BR 5.7+ tanks
>Not playing America or Russia
>Game's unplayable and always die in one shot no matter where you're penned, while you actually have to aim at the USA/Russia tanks and most of the time don't one shot them unless you got a shot to their side

>Play 4.7 and under tanks as anybody
>Game suddenly fun until you run into an M4A3E2 or KV-1 in a BR under theirs

Why is their balancing so horrendous?
>>
>>
>>
jesus christ wowp is garbage
>>
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Yeah, these planes are goofy.

Not Blom Voss goofy, but still pretty ugly.
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>>179828707
http://worldofwarplanes.eu/news/update-1-9-10/
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>>179827635
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>>179828962
wow, fuck off WOWP
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What will it take to revive WoWP?
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>>179831797
Making it a good game
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>>179831797
Make it a paid game
Remove grind
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>page 10

ded geam
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>>179808912
that's you were camping their airfield, not them though

they also left it eventually if i understand you correctly. if you fly near their airfield not even letting them to land and maybe repair and j out, don't be surprised they circle the airfield, it's their only non-suicide option
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>>179814201
buy the premium ki-61 :^)
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Should I even bother to play the p-80 or should I just grind the F-84 and start jets with that
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>>179836757
Go for chad thunderjet. The p80 is good but chad is better
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>>179831797
Make it single player.
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Which country has the best attackers? Which the most fun?
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>>179839167
1. Burgers
2. Bongs
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>>179839167
best is russia
most fun is russia
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>>179825308
well, it's pretty much what the britbong hurricane iib is, with its 12x 7.7
the slav hurricane iib in wt is armed with 2x 20mm + 2x 12.7mm though

>>179829037
i actually wish we got that plane too and it's a possibility because its prototype flied, it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_XF5U

people want it for ages but gaijin is reluctant for some reason

>>179839252
but burgers have shit attackers till like skyraider unless you ground pound with thunderbolt or hellcat
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>>179839167
Spaghett

Unlock them all for research now for just $9.99
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>>179840448
Thunderbolt and navy fighters are excellent attackers
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>>179841556
lince is the best attacker in the game :^)

>>179841726
for some reason ground pounding with a plane which is supposed to climb early feels as a waste and betraying your team...
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>>179842007
Ground pounding in general is betraying your team, mighy as well use something that allows you to cover more roles if you have to
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So now that the M46 has HEAT-FS is it better than the T29? What about taking it alongside with a T29, is it worth a slot in your 6.7 lineup?
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>>179842308
>Ground pounding in general is betraying your team
indeed
but i love torpedoes
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>>179843091
end your life yuudachi poster
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>>179843091
You can have my torpedo if you want
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>>179843550
i wish we could play naval battles like some people use plons and some botes, i bet if you pick dd you hardly can get points to get a torpedo bomber... but then people will likely use dive bombing and tiny tims anyway, unless they nerf those somehow
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>>179843820
>tfw you will never be able to skip bomb player controlled ships at 400 mph on the deck in your tigercat
It's incredible the how incompetent Gaijin are.
>>
Since they originally said that anything larger than PT boats would not happen because MUH POSITIONING MUH RANGE MUH MULTI HOUR BATTLES, then added destroyers, can we expect cruisers
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>>179840448
>A20
>A26B
>shit
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>>179845294
>okay with plane battles taking forever
>not okay with ship battles taking forever

Or, to put it another way

>not okay with 'what russian navy?'
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>>179845990
they are just like two engined bombers without bomb sights that can strafe the ground about as good as hellcat can

i also don't see how a-20 is any better than b-34 that has a bomb sight, can strafe too and also can carry a torpedo, and whose rudder doesn't hinder its own turret

dunno about invader but the ordinary mitchel can do the same as the attacker mitchel can also having a bomb sight
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>>179846526
>can strafe the ground about as good as hellcat can
i meant the damage that they inflict, hellcat is better because it's grades more agile
>>
What explains the massive increase in performance going from the P51-D5 to the P51-D30? Did it have a different engine or something?

Or is it purely an artificial mechanic and they perform very similar irl?
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>>179847414
The D30 run an higher boost setting so it climbed and accelerated faster
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>>179847913
what prevented d5 from running on the same settings?
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>>179847913
You mean it's essentially the same plane but they just placed less restrictions on how much they pushed the engine, am I understanding this correctly?
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>>179848096
Not quite it also had rear-warning radar and a tail stabilizer
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>>179848289
But in terms of flight-performance that's essentially what it is, right?

What prevented them from using the same settings on the D-5? Did those settings come at the price of range?
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>>179848424
It was just a late batch model, i think the engine was not well optimized in the first models (D5) and later when they solved overheating problems and such they could boost it a little more (D30)
Also being a late model means it probably got a bunch of other upgrades like a better prop, better gunsights, better mgs and so in
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>>179848742
Oh so they had the same engine but ones in later models were modified to run better, right?
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>>179848897
Yeah they probably figured out how to run it to it's limits by making small adjustments here and there
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>>179848289
>rear-warning radar
burgers have no samurai spirit, they don't want to fight fair
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>>179848897
Also it's supposed to have M3 .50s but Gaijin.
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>>179849119
With the 50 cal buff it would be a meme machine with M3's.
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>>179849305
Why dont they just add the M3s and bump it's BR
All the P51Ds need a br bump anyways
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>>179849647
>br bumb
>when burger teams have like 30% winrate
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>>179849718
hmm I wonder why...it couldn't possibly be the teams could it?
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>>179849773
There's only so much a team of randoms can do when bombers are guaranteed to take at least 4 slots in every game and do nothing but fly in a straight predictable line towards their targets.
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>>179849647
They should just give us a D44 or K instead and put it at a slightly higher br than the 30
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>>179849718
oh yes, another fucking clapaboo spouting complete bullshit, in utter denial that his D-30 that does 620 on the deck facing 3.7s is completely acceptable
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>>179850383
it's mostly the better players who get tracked by thunderskill though
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>>179850513
For what it's worth, I'm apparently just an average player and use it. Even if it's slightly depressing to see myself very slowly get worse.
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>>179850383
Are those AB and RB stats meant to be impressive?
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>Tank battles
>Deploy in Tiger II (p), Panther A and Jagdpanther
>Have to fight a hoard of fucking T-54 main battle tanks

Is this new?
I haven't seen T-54s before in like thirty hours of being at this battle rating.

Why does Gaijin hate German players so much?
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>>179850383
What the hell is with the jump at SB?
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>>179851214
nope, but it's nowhere near the 30% winrate anon said
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>>179851384
Sure, he was talking out of his ass, but in any case the data you pulled up doesn't make the D30 look any more undertiered than planes it regularly faces.
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>>179851228
never forgot great patriotic war
slava rossiya ))))))))))))))))
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>>179851228
>Why does Gaijin hate German players so much?

it's because the br system is lacking, have you complained when you clubbed everybody around 3.7 or so
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>>179851534
can the J2M or 109 F-4 out-everything shit they face even in a max uptier?
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>>179851349
>240 battles
one sb autist is enough to skew that statistics to either side

>>179851534
your mom was talking from her ass
winrates for an average burger player as people report them are below 50% and at higher br they go around 30%
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>>179852016
how come all my win rates are above 40 then?

I'm not even that good
>>
Does Gaijin plan to release more countries roundels? I just don't want to use the flag.
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>>179851886
Can the D30 out everything any popular plane? It can't outturn anything, which sounds like it doesn't matter, but your teammates will turn and it will start to matter when you have to deal with the enemy team without anyone left to back left to you up. The very statistics you've used show that the winrates for the D30 are no more skewed than the planes it faces, and that's really all that matter in the end. What better measure of balance are you proposing?

>>179852016
>are below 50% and at higher br they go around 30%
[citation needed]
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If the Ki-84ko is 5.3 in rb, then so can the P-47N and P51D-30

That was a good game too. One B-17E, two P-51D, and one P-47N
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>>179852420
>Can the D30 out everything any popular plane?
Ta 152s, D-13s, D-12s, probably even D-9s at high alt
>It can't outturn anything
Yes it can, especially with flaps and at high speed
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>>179852931
Okay, you got me, it out-turns the worst turning fighter line in the game.

I still stand by the fact that available statistics indicate the D30 is not any more undertiered than several other popular planes that have been in the game forever. The average retard player would probably head on a Fw190 despite being able to out-turn it.
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>>179853206
I don't care about the average retard. Every plane is bad in the hands of a retard.

Point is that P47/P51s right now are undertiered murder machines in good hands. Like that other anon said, if the Ki-84 can survive 5.3, those planes can very well make it too.
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is nazibolt a good plon to grind money?
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>>179853369
>Every plane is bad in the hands of a retard.

Every game involves retards, almost every win will involve a team. You cannot separate retards from the teamplay element unless you squad up every single game every time you play.

And aggregated statistics are always superior to anecdotal cases. Thunderskill is biased you say? No more biased than one guy showing the results of a "good game" without showing the bad ones.
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how do i j7w1?
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>>179853660
I'm not the same anon.

I don't give a fuck about Thundershit. It won't make any real difference between the hands of a retard. If anything, it could be better because they will fight against planes they can turn with more often.
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>>179853206
>Okay, you got me, it out-turns the worst turning fighter line in the game.
except it outruns and outclimbs them too.

>I still stand by the fact that available statistics indicate the D30 is not any more undertiered than several other popular planes that have been in the game forever
alright, go ahead and be delusional
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>>179854028
>posted from my 3.7 plane with a 66% winrate
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>>179854028
Every Fw-nigger can just roll their way out of danger though, including when they're against P-51s.
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>>179854205
>posted as I keep up with a 5.7 tempest in my totally not undertiered 4.7
>posted as I outrun, outturn, outgun, outclimb at higher alt, and outroll a 109 G-6
>posted as I dance around a 109 F-4 with my superior everything
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When?
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why do all the mustangs look as if they are pregnant

what's that belly air intake for anyway when it's way behind the engine
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>>179855804
open a book, or at least a wiki page
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>>179855193
>outclimb 109s

You keep saying this even though this isn't true for the altitude most people fight at in-game, unless there was a massive buff to the D30's performance that I'm not aware of.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlas6VQPcpgoU0bB-Fd0FteJhOEUnl0Hwen665S1HsM/edit#gid=0
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>>179856031
>outclimb at higher alt
>higher alt
can you read?

even then, climb rate means shit when you have that massive of a speed advantage over early 109s.
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>>179855906
what book, "ww2 warplanes and the curious things they had under their belly"?
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>>179856801
15 seconds with google
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>>179856937
that you had to know it was its cooling system so technically it's cheating
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>>179856559
Okay man, the D30 is a murder machine because you can take at least 10 minutes just to side-climb up to 10,000m while your entire team gets slaughtered down below, leaving you to play the waiting game for at least another 10 minutes so you can find and kill the few people climbing up to look for you.

Or you can not sideclimb to meet up with 109s that are >1000m above you, so you outspeed them by diving to low alt and then all your complaints about its high level performance are null and void.
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is the Tiger H1 worth it? i really want a heavy tank but i dont want to instantly be uptiered. should i get the Pz IV G instead?
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>>179857098
Could have just typed "P-51 blueprint" "technical drawings" or shit like that, if you really wanted to know.

Learn to use google/internet, lazy fuck.
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>>179857217
>Okay man, the D30 is a murder machine because you can take at least 10 minutes just to side-climb up to 10,000m while your entire team gets slaughtered down below
which is why you read the battle and try to find the highest guy first, then go down

>Or you can not sideclimb to meet up with 109s that are >1000m above you, so you outspeed them by diving to low alt and then all your complaints about its high level performance are null and void.
you outspeed them by going into a shallow dive, not diving to the deck completely vertical. even then you still outrun and outclimb many planes at the deck.

this is clearly a learn to play issue then, I and others can do completely well in the D-30 despite not even being that good
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>>179857997
>try to find the highest guy first

You mean the guy who will be higher than you, who has an objectively higher climbrate than you in the opening minutes of the game?

>you outspeed them by going into a shallow dive

Yeah let's pretend the guy you're up against knows a little bit about what he's doing, since you're assuming that's true of the P-51 pilot. Anyone not completely retarded and using a bf109 in that situation knows he can't catch up to you, so he climbs back up, maintains his alt advantage, and you've wasted your time to accomplish nothing.

How about you learn to play, because it sounds like you're getting baited by targets you should know not to chase.
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>>179857217
i literally had a game yesterday when we had a p-47d25 at the end vs a couple of a6m5 or something and a b7a2, the guy already ran in straight lines at low alt for like 10 minutes when i quit that match (i was curious to watch what would happen) and in about 20 more minutes he won, either they gave up or he found an opportunity to climb i didn't check
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>>179858663
>to squeeze out a victory as burgers against japs you have to play like a persistent cockcroach, running for most of a 30 minute game

I'm not sure who really "won" there.
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>>179859337
This, it's really not hard to fight good American pilots even when they abuse undertiered planes. It's just fucking annoying. Run run run run, turn around and try to head on, or climb to space and wait for the tickets to force a play. I'd rather take the loss and get right back into it then spend an extra 30 minutes at the end of the game sneakily climbing.
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Why is it literally impossible to turn in a Jagdpanther?
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>>179858461
>You mean the guy who will be higher than you, who has an objectively higher climbrate than you in the opening minutes of the game?
idk man, I've never had a problem with having people above me in the D-30. I know sideclimbing sounds like a meme, but it really works, especially since the D-30's climb rate isn't that bad.

>Yeah let's pretend the guy you're up against knows a little bit about what he's doing, since you're assuming that's true of the P-51 pilot. Anyone not completely retarded and using a bf109 in that situation knows he can't catch up to you, so he climbs back up, maintains his alt advantage, and you've wasted your time to accomplish nothing.
same thing can happen in a jet. at that point it's just a stalemate. so why do jets win? because the prop eventually has to dive on you to eliminate you, and in doing so his inferior speed causes him to lose his entire energy advantage. or, you bled his energy enough that you can make him overshoot, then you're close enough on energy that you can kill him as he tries to go vertical/extend.

>How about you learn to play, because it sounds like you're getting baited by targets you should know not to chase.
this is going by my experience flying in the D-30, not against it.
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>>179860696
>why do jets win?
>because their opponents make a retarded mistake

All of these arguments you've made led to the conclusion that the P51 can only stalemate faster climbing planes it faces (most of them), and win the stalemate only if the opponent gets impatient.
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>>179861385
so how do I even have kills even in things like the cannon corsair against shit like spaded K-4s and D-9s when my climb rate is clearly inferior?
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https://youtu.be/Fkr_usVsKvw

>all those butthurt Tigershitters in the comments
I am literally drowning in tears, i've never been happier.
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>>179862539
By picking on impatient people who made mistakes? Any plane can kill shitters.
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>a single G.91 with hydras can end the match on korea without even reloading
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>It's a *one-shotted from across the map by an invisible Russian MBT ten seconds after spawning in a Jagdpanther, then crew-locked* kind of episode

>My keyboard when
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>mfw sim tunisia
this is the best tank map in the game right?
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>>179864365
HAHAHA, JET COMBAT IN WT
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>>179806195
The Mk 211 has about the same destructive power as a standard 20mm round against such targets.

I imagine it would be quite good.
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Ki84s, J2M-Raidens, or N1K1-ShidenKais??

Which one is the best??
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> do really well in mig 9/L
> go onto mig 15bis
> can barely keep a positive kd
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the asshurt from the M46's suddenly being worth it is like a breath of fresh air
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>>179866585
>Edgy Facist Lovers have anger management issues.

woah man thats crazy
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>>179868734
I bet they main Germany.
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German Players are low skill

https://youtu.be/yDpnnfkpQkQ
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>>179868734
>>179869084
>German players continue to whine every time another nation gets something that isn't shit
it's incredible, every time, like they have their heads in the sand.
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Why is Chaika love? Why is Chaika life?
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>>179867735
ki100s
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>>179869402
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>>179867735
J2M

climb is the only thing that matters in this game
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>>179869218
stealth is6 shill spotted
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>>179869978
Don't insult me like that.
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>>179870110
Fuck you
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So when will War Thunder get WW2 tanks/planes and Cold War tanks/planes seperated into their own seperate groups?

Seeing cold war vehicles fighting ww2 era vehicles and vice versa is stupid, to me.

Just seems dumb.

Because if they ever DO begin to reach into the more modern-war side of things we'll end up seeing modern vehicles vs the upper tier cold-war ones.
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>>179870235
>this meme again
if you want to club shermans in your tiger II, find a different game.
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>>179870235
>Seeing cold war vehicles fighting ww2 era vehicles and vice versa is stupid, to me.
it was literally the case in all those middle eastern wars
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>>179870447
I'd rather have tiger 2's fighting against actual ww2 vehicles of the same tier. They exist, so why not?

I'm not saying remove the tier system, I'm just saying have a cutoff from the actual eras.
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>>179870235
Probably never, because then the PT-76 and ASU-57 would suddenly have to fight Bulldogs and Pattons instead of Panzer 3's and 4's
What they should do instead of separating the matchmaking flat-out however is giving us historical lineups to choose from with limited vehicles, like in the WW2 Chronicles stuff
That way there aren't 9 Tiger II's on one team and a handful of Pershings on the other, and so on
The thing that is truly fucking GF is not the post-war fighting mid/late war, it's the constant and neverending spam of "meta" vehicles like the IS-6, Tiger 2, and T-29. Killing the spam and uncompressing the BR's would be a leap in the right direction, but unfortunately it's just not profitable because the naziboos and slavshitters would whine
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>>179870802
Why? why should their be a line in August 1945 that says nothing after this can fight anything before it? Should we also have a line for before and after the Korean war? If the matchups are balanced then what difference does it make, if you want to say there's a problem with game balance as a whole then I agree, but that has nothing to do with postwar tanks fighting WW2 era tanks.
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>>179870951
>Killing the spam and uncompressing the BR's
There should be an "and/or" instead of just an "and"
fuck
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i wonder if we get anti-ship guided missiles
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>>179871002
No i'm talking more in the sense of historical accuracy.

Sure, it's not going to be 100% accurate because it's not based on a literal event, but keeping things to their respective eras and wars would just seem more interesting to me.

Also, i've had this question in my mind for a while:

Will the ever add in ground forces?

I heard from a friend that they'd never do it, because that would cross the dev's boundries of violence from it being pretty "PG-13" right now.

Because with ships in development, it'd be fucking rad to have games with ships off the coast, planes, and tanks with ground support performing -actual- full scale battles.

A man can dream I guess.
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>>179871235
*will they
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>>179871675
serval-chan kawaa des ne
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>>179868734
>It out classes the Panther II in everything other than armour and speed

So wait, if it had lower pen rounds, was slower and had worse armour, THEN it would be fair and balanced to be the same BR as the Panther II?

Do they ever realise how stupid they sound?
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>>179871235
That's retarded, you want to nerf certain tanks into utter uselessness (PT-76, ASU-57, M41) while buffing others into complete stompers (maus, jagdtiger) purely for historical accuracy in a game where Brits and Americans fight Germans and Russians on Kursk?
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>>179871812
*kawaii
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>>179871842
No, because they saw on the history channel once that the Wehrmacht had the best tanks ever made so obviously they should be an undeadable point and click adventure in WT.
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>>179871842these are naziboos, of course they don'tthey're also ignoring the Ru-251 which is better in literally every way BUT armor (which is almost useless at that tier) and an APHE round that's unreliable anyways, as well as the ST-A series at 6.3 that gets the same HEAT-FS as the M46.. kinda want to let that one slide though because the ST-A series is pretty shit, according to everyone I've seen bitching about it
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>>179871952
Doesn't matter. I said I don't need total 100% accuracy, just enough for it to be believable.

Right now it feels super slapped together, perhaps that's just me being anal though.
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Why does it seem like Slavaboos are so much more self aware than wehraboos? It seems like Russian tank players know when their shit is OP, they just go with it and if it gets nerfed they move on. But German tank players have this general disconnect with reality where they legitimately think their tanks are in need of a buff, no matter how hard they club. They actually managed to get most of the German 6.7 lineup downtiered to 6.3, and the tiger E down to 5.7, the fucking tiger E, .4 BR above the Easy 8, and below the Jumbo 76.
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>>179871952
>while buffing others into complete stompers (maus, jagdtiger)

Late war Allied tanks can pierce those from the side no problem, just flank them, that's what IS-6 faggots always tell German players to do, it'd give retarded Allied pussies a nice taste of their own medicine not being able to pierce shit from the front.


But really, a no-post-war tanks mode should ideally give the Axis team less players to balance their generally better vehicles.
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>historical mm is bad! Timemachines are good!
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>>179873104
The only OP German tanks are the RU-251, and to some extent the Panzer IV F2 and Leopard 1.
Also the Leopard 2 was pretty stronk


Slavshits and burgerfats are just in denial of how much easier they have it, I started the game by playing halfway through the Russian tree, switched to Germans out of preference for their vehicles, Russians were so much easier to play as, even as Germans one of the best tanks for it's BR is a captured KV-1
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>>179873402
Unbalanced MM is bad. Balanced MM is good.

Historical MM doesn't fix anything, it just changes the flavour of shit you're eating.
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I really like playing the M46 before the HEATFS addition. It was a goofy, underplayed and unappreciated tank and it was fun playing as the underdog.

I haven't noticed it being overused now, but weighing between HEAT and APCR for penetration being gone now kills my enthusiasm for it.
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>>179873681
You were playing the M46 wrong to begin with if you were carrying APCR. You either carried HEAT for extra pen, or before the HEAT was added you just carried M82 because AP was shockingly shit at killing anything. This has changed nothing about it's playstyle, just changes what kind of tanks it can pen now.
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>>179873878
?
The APCR has enough penetration to go through the face of a jadgtiger (while the HEAT did not), and a more comfortable penetration on the side of slavic heavy turrets.

If you didn't take any APCR rounds for the M46 YOU were playing it wrong, why limit yourself?
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G.55s are perfectly balanced.
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>>179874168
>planes
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>>179874143
Hell, not to mention the face of the Maus.

I distinctly remember saving my own skin many times with the APCR and I haven't played the M46 in months
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>>179874168
>tfw outclimbing those fuckers in the P-38J and boom and zooming the shit out of them
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>>179874394
isn't p-38g better?
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>>179874143
APCR is not going to get a consistent pen on the Jagdtiger face due to slope modifiers, and even when you do pen you'd be lucky to do more than kill a crew member. If you're in front of a hull down Jagdtiger, an infinitely better idea is to GTFO and try and flank it.

The APCRs best usage is against thick flat plates, for example the Maus turret face like the other anon said. But then again the last time I was playing the M46 the Maus was 8.0 and half the tanks the M46 faces nowadays weren't even ingame.
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>>179874740
only because it gets an airspawn
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>>Much has been made of the term fighter-bomber, which describes an aircraft that can perform both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions. Regardless of the designation, as long as that aircraft is assigned to drop things in the dirt, it's a target, not a fighter. Once it has jettisoned that air-to-mud stuff and goes looking for trouble, then it's a fighter.

kek

it's from that robert l. shaw's book nobody answered me anything about recently
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>slavrunes flood the chat despite not selecting RU
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>>179878246
>tfw you slam a 2k pounder in front of a pair of T-44's and "cyka" appears in the chat
fuckin' A
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ship cbt when
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>>179842445
pls respond
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>>179878246
you can be matched cross servers

i had a game recently, my settings were eu only, at the beginning of the game there was some chat in english because it was a mixed nation battle where a lot of players including me experienced norway on the receiving side. so, a couple of slavs began their chat in russian, here it is:

>eww, european server
>yeah, and mixed nations too
>and i strongly suspect those european players are a bunch of european scrubs
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>>179880242
> experienced norway on the receiving side for the first time ever

upd
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>>179878246
All you have to do is type, Cyka Blyat to you too, and they'll stop.
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>outskill a bunch of Italian planes in a P-47
>receive this chat message
kek
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>>179880540
i once typed to one "and ching chong nip nong to you, young lady", and he took offence that i called him young lady, even promised to tk me

it's a silly thing to do though
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>>179880651
i don't speak pasta, only tea, vodka and some frog, translate pls
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>>179880756
>dickhead, next time play..asshole
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Might as well ask, anyone else suspect they're just a total scrub that exists to be background scenery/silver lions for the good players?
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>>179881378
How can I be background when I'm regularly getting several kills?
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>>179881378
>other people exist to provide challenge to me

you just should pick the proper point of view :^)
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>>179880828
THE
ROMANCE
LANGUAGE
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>>179880651
>italians complaining they're getting killed by americans
they're all shitters, not italian planes but the italians playing the game itself. every itailan i met was a poor pilot and this is sad seeing i'm italian as well. i know there's a big squadron around with 100ish italians and they're all so garbage it almost hurts my pride
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>>179883852
not that guy who posted the screenshot but i suspect he played to the strength of his thunderbolt to win vs more maneuverable plons and it's a pretty boring game with a lot of running and climbing, i have seen quite a lot of people complaining that they don't want to climb to 8km in g.55s and it's "passive play" to force them to climb to end the game etc
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>>179883852
The world is full of salty fags
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Remember : any plane or tank that has a low win rate is because everyone playing it is bad, whether it's the most slavic pyramid or British pinhole creator.
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>>179886179
>posted from my IS-6
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pls tell me that nazibolt worth it

i want a relatively cheap premium that can print silver, also i want to play american plons on the side that actually wins more often than loses
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>>179887224
It's 8 .50 cals at 3.7 with the good belts. Of course it's good.

Haven't played it in a long time so idk if it gets an airspawn.
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>>179873402
>historical MM
Boy, I'm sure looking forward to driving my Panzer III F and 38(t) A against fucking Matildas all day every day.
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>>179886179
>IS-6: 57% WR
>I swear it's good because people playing it are good ))))))))))))))))
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Just got the tigres and I don't know if it's because the 88 or the IS' optics are just shit but it was a magical experience to see my shell existing after making contact with a slav optic.
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>>179877198
I got that book some years ago but haven't gotten to reading it yet.
Remember that part though. Pretty fun.
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>>179888714
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>>179889130
>>179888714
I see, we are crabposting now
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>>179889202
is this crab harvester ?
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>>179889230
A crabwhacker
sherman crabs are best funnies
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>tfw people always forget the poor Nips when talking about historical matchmaking who will have to fight the T-44, Pershing, Easy 8 and iStalins-2/3 in their Type-3 Chi-Nu
Please be more considerate next time
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>>179889725
war isn't fair, my yellow friend.
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>>179890737
At reast I wirr be abre to fight bipranes in Zero. Nyan~~~~
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>>179890737
>tfw you will never make Alliedfags suffer for all their injustices by popping their Shermans and Cromwells from across the map in your King Tiger while Kurfurts and 262s clear their inferior Shitfires and Mustshits out of the sky
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>>179815804
This better be this or i'll fucking bomb their HQ. Germany needs heavy bomber.
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>>179893106
>wanting it as a fucking event plane
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>>179857475
Yes it is, at it's br it clubs everything.
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Why is it fucking impossible for Axis to win Norway? For some reason my teammates are always fucking retarded on that map, and only that map.
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>>179892912
>implying you wouldnt get fucked by a M22 coming up your rear faster than light before your unreliable self-explody paperwaffe gets torn to shreds by A1 Corsairs
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>Puma can't even climb this fucking hill
>it is also literally incapable of getting to the top of the northern point on the hill in Jungle
what the fuck? The engine wasn't THAT bad, was it?
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>>179893180
Then when the fuck will they add it? talks have been going on for a fucking years, people want it yet gayjin doesn't do anything.
They could even add pic related as a premium for brits at the same time but no. It's not even worth it playing bombers as germs.
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>>179893454
wheels(((
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>>179893454
Lack of contunous track is quite a problem for heavier vehicles when offroad. Turns out it takes more than HP/t for wheels to work even remotely close to tracks.
>The BTR-60 has a 8x8 suspension.
>BTR was fitted with two six-cylinder gasoline GAZ-40P engines (67 kW) located side by side in the rear of the vehicle. The combined power of the engines is 180 hp (134 kW).
>Each engine propels two of the vehicle's axles. The engine on the right propels the second and the fourth axles, while the one on the left propels the first and the third axles.
>Each engine has its own four-speed gear box with a single-shielded hydraulically controlled clutch and an exhaust.
>Each axle has its own differential and is hung on transversal torsion bars.
>The first two axles each have two hydraulic absorbers, while the third and fourth only have one.
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>>179893965
>>179894279
I guess that explains it
oh well, at least it's still fun to gun down slavtrucks with the coaxial MG42
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>>179892912
>you will never see Tiger IIs and Panthers stop in the middle of Kursk and catch fire as their tanks break down
>you will never see a KV-2 slaughtering Pz.III and Pz.II tanks with impunity
>you will never see P-51s strafe helpless Me262s in their take off and landing sequences because the engines are too fragile to hit with full throttle to disengage a landing
>you will never see a Tiger IIs frontal armor break apart after being hit with a 122mm HE shell from an IS-2

I don't think you want that level of historical accuracy as much as you think you want it there Kraut
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>>179893454
Lack of torque
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>>179777270
Iran did pretty darn well against planes of comparable intro date.
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>>179894868
>historical accuracy
>mentions a 1944 tank in a 1943 battle
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>>179893260
>grey Tiger
Reeeee
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>>179895178
Iran has literally the best F-14 pilot in the world
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>>179893260
>implying your shitty "tank" wouldn't get fucked by superior Aryan technology
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>>179895478
>*KT breaks down in the middle of Ardennes
Happy now?
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>>179895582
Highest scoring ace, yes, not necessarily best pilot.
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>>179895178
>Iraqi MiG-21 fighters get fucked by F-14
>France props up Hussein and sends him Mirage fighters
>Mirage gets fucked by F-14
>Slavs prop up Hussein and send MiG-29 fighters to help Hussein
>MiG-29 gets fucked by F-14
>tfw we will never get to play the Iran-Iraq War in WT
Sad. Many such cases.
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I get the feeling the only people screaming for historical MM are shitters that want to cosplay as Wittman clubbing Shermans with a Tiger.
When they could just cosplay as the man by blowing up T-34s with a StuG A,
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>>179895868
StuGs are for homosexuals.
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>>179895951
Still better than your shitty, expensive, unreliable meme Tiger
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>>179895784
Indo-paki wars in WT when?
>>
>>179896017
>stug memeing on anything for being unreliable
>posted as it strips its transmission again
>>
>>179895868
That's a false assumption.
I want to be the KV-1 slaughtering helpless Panzer III and II hordes.
Alternatively bully Panthers in a Cromwell.
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>>179895784
>tfw they finally expand on Rank 6-10
>rank10 is late '90s early 2000 equipment
>add Israel, France, China and Korea tech tree
>NATO vs WarPac battles
>Helicopters
>MBTs
>SAMs
>Supersonic Jets
>Add maps for Golan, Kashmir, Fulda Gap, Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait
>Stretch BRs up to 20
>lower all research and sl costs for current ranks 1-5
>get the AW target audience
>get the DCS target audience
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>>179895589
>Aryan technology
ah, yes, the famous "disable myself out of combat" secrets, which no one ever reproduced due to such advanced designs
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Anyone else who gets a bit pic related when you realize you'll never get to take out any vehicle in the game at any time without spending a significant amount of time grinding?

Would pay a (reasonable) fixed price to have everything unlocked, or atleast a lot easier to grind to avoid clashes of new, bad, skilled and old players.
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>>179896043
We'd need the AMX and up-gunned Indian Shermans for that one though.
Also M4A1E6 for the Pakis.
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>>179896305
>stretch BRs to 90s
>still no composite or reactive or guided air weapons or afterburners
>A-37 and A-10 meme on everything
>>
>>179896497
Well obviously there would be all of that too, also larger maps to compensate for longer range engagements od both plens and tonks
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>>179896305
>queue with my T-72 Asad Babil
>Kuwait map
>tank starts out dug into the sand
>get bombed by the USAF before even leaving my hole
Thanks Saddam.
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>O-of course it's an SB map! W-why would you ask that?!

It's almost cute.
>>
>they still have not fixed the P.108A
>>
>>179894868
>he doesn't want Slavs to play with chat disabled until tier 4 'cuz no radio
>he doesn't want Americans to abandon their Sherman the moment they see your Kingtiger
>he doesn't want T-34s to break down all the time
>he doesn't want to gun down POWs for extra SL&RP
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>>179896305
>night battles
>IR and heat visors
>phosphor artillery
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>>179896305
>Stretch BRs up to 20
As if. It would totally be 10 BRs, but only after 6 months of T-64s and T-72s clubbing everything.
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>>179897369
Don't forget late war German crews abandoning their tanks after a single hit)))))))))))))))
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>>179897706
Don't forget the TOS-1 premium for only 25k GE!
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>>179897369
>not smashing that mother fucking J out of a sherman before a KT can ohk you anyway
>>
>>179897950
I actually think it would be interesting if they implemented some sort of incentive to keep your crew alive, so that people would consider abandoning their tank to save crewmen, rather than fight to the end.
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>the last enemy is some Russian in a P-38 who decided to climb to 8km and wait until his entire team was dead to engage
>gets shot down with even hitting anyone
Fucking wot m8.
>>
>>179898172
Isn't there something similar with plane crews already implemented, I thought? Like, bailing out before you smash into the ground or explode.
>>
>Steam overlay suddenly doesn't work in WT anymore, including screenshots
Help?
>>
>ZSU 37
> 74 missions withit
> 4 air kills
> 19 ground kills

This thing is so fucking shit how the hell do you work this thing? I only get kills from retards doing head ons
>>
>>179899624
on the other hand
>using the massive altitude and speed advantage you fight and get 2-3 kills

still not worth it, salt quality is high though
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Sooner than you think.
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>>179901496
MUH DICK
>>
Where would you rank the IS-6? T29-ish?
>>
>>179900141
Dunno, but I don't think so.
>>
>>179902027
Probably more, the armor is really good, the T29 is comparable to a KT and they are both worse as far as armor is concerned
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>>179896305
>spawn in M18
>cap one point and J out
>respawn in F-15E
>carpet bomb the entire enemy team from Mach 2
I can see it now
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>>179902974
>SAM is added into the game
>it still sparks
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>>179902974
>spawn in Ru251
>cap one point and J out
>respawn in Tornado
>carpet bomb the entire map with HEAT bomblets from Mach 2 killing indiscriminately friends and foes
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Gotta love idiots who land on the forward base.
Took out a Halifax on approach seconds after this.
>>
>>179903219
>EA-18 Growler spawns and immediately slaughters all the enemy AA because naziboos are too stupid to turn their radar off
>>
>>179903502
Honestly why wasn't this war thunder from the start?

>>179903574
Jesus christ what's with those instant gibs on the poor fuckers?
>>
A6M8 when?
>>
>>179904319
>luftaboos that spam flares against radar guided missiles and then complain about the game being biased against them when they get shot down
It's surprisingly accurate
>>
>>179904319
>Israel added as a premium nation
>Merkava mortar launchers causes everyone anyone caught in it to lag
>You also shit out elite infantry armed with the best ATGM in the game
>>
What are you supposed to do on urban maps with unarmored tanks?
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>>179905519
Stop and watch behind corners, never go alone, wait for enemy tanks to shoot your teammates then pop out and spank them
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Is it just me or do MG151s pilotsnipe a lot compared to other guns?
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>>179906281
The XP-50 is flimsy as hell.
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>only 2 enemies remaining
>they crash headon
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>>179727175
I need more info on this
So I can just create accounts and farm free GE form 1 hour of flight?
>>
>>179905519
Flank, ambush, generally meme on shitters. Urban combat is like an equalizer, armor is largely irrelevant and map awareness and quick reactions are much more important.
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>>179907874
>use user invite to your main account
>create account
>choose slavs
>unlock tier 3 with planes (no need to buy anything)
>get 500 shekels
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>you lived to see the day where someone would say italians are overpowered in war thunder
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>>179908941
forgot to add that with user invite and tutorial you have 200 shekelstotal , use that to buy 1 day premium
>>
>>179908941
it's impossible for tier 1 slavs to win against german+pasta
>>
>>179904407
fair and balanced premium G.55
>>
>>179908941
you have to do tanks and abuse the BT-5 and BT-7 for ez wins.
>>
>everybodys chimping out over 90 mm heat-fs

its fucking nothing really, would take 20 pounder APDS any time
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>>179910869
90mm HEAT-FS can reliably pen the Tiger II UFP and the IS6, two things the 20 pounder APDS cannot do. Coincidentally those are two of the whiniest groups in all of WT, so that's where the chimpout is coming from.
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>shooting pilots on the ground gives you extra points
why does gaijin encourage war crimes?
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I like this CTF thing.
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Fuck you and your unbalanced maps, Gaijin.
The enemy had one fighter hiding in the airfield and most of ours were still up. There is no reason why they should win this other than Soviet Bias.
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>>179911647
>ugly unhistorical decals
kys
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>>179911823
>muh historical accuracy
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>>179911990
kys cancer
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>>179911687
>Don't protect your ground units
>Surprised when you lose because you failed at your mission of protecting said units
Really, nigga? And you were flying the pay-to-win pasta in top of that.
>>
>>179912398
The ticket balance wasn't that far off for most of the match, and then suddenly we lost all our tickets in a very short span for no reason, while the sole remaining enemy hid in his AAA.
Are you honestly defending that, shill?
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>>179911647
What CTF thing?
>>
>>179912563
Missions are timed. Did you receive a mission failed message with large red X shortly before that happened?
>>
>>179913008
Yes, but how is that fair?
>>
>>179913151
>Yes, but how is that fair?
So bombers and ground attackers have something to do other than being rp piñatas for fighters.
>>
>>179896305
>>179902974
>>179903502
>>179897064
>>179897425
>>179897706
>coming soon! (in like 10 years maybe)
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God damn I love this plane.
Should have been six, but Gaijin )))
>>
what skills should I be focusing on for the he219?
>>
>>179896305
>Get the DCS target audience

Not sure about that part pal
>>
>>179915524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_SwD7RveNE
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>>179912586
the new game mode
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>american teams being so garbage half of our M18s expose themselves after speedcapping and get instantly fucking shredded
>can't even kill a tiger from the back
>get spawncamped by russian shitters within minutes
>THAT ONE FUCKING SPAWNING SIDE ON POLAND
I swear I fuckign wonder why I even keep playing
>>
>>179868030
Git gud faggit
>>
>>179916394
What on poland?
>>
I see a lot of people prays the M46 now, is it good? Is it worth buying? Is it better than the T29?
>>
>>179903502
>spawn in Tornado
>no armament allowed since you are only permitted to fly reconnaissance
>>
Does anybody know why the nazis started naming their tanks after rodents with the maus and ratte?
>>
>>179916070
>siema
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>>179920707
German "humor"
>haha this tank is so huge wouldn't it be funny if it was named after a small animal
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>>179920707
Joke on their size maybe?
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>>179916070
M3A3 gonfirm'd!
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>>179919304
It was just given a 310mm pen HEAT-FS shell, so people are trying it out, and since it's actually worth playing now more people are playing it.
>>
>>179921231
But is it good? And compared to the T29 wich would be the better choice?
>>
what belts should I be using for the he219 if i want to make money? the ground target belts dont seem to be able to do anything against medium tanks
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>P-38 keeps half our team occupied at 8km for the entire match
>we still somehow win
How bad was this Allied team?
>>
>>179920707
to fool allies secret service into thinking like its nothing special like Cat(which was some sd kfz), Maus was previously Mammoth
>>
>>179922019
Fly in from the side at about a 20 degree angle and shoot them in the side armor. Takes about 10 rounds and they blow up.
>>
>click on 120mm segment of tiger mantlet
>hitcam: lol u hit the 200mm segment
>>
how come the pe-8's WEP only works in realiztic?
>>
>>179921231
I don't get why people are so fixated on pen, when the post-pen damage is so unreliable. APHE is still king, even if it has less pen, because it can turn every hit into a kill.
>>
Should I buy the RU 251 and is it fun?
>>
>>179903502
PTABs when?
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>>179930776
>The Il-2 ground attack aircraft was capable of carrying 280 2.5 kg bombs immediately on the bomb-bay folds, or 4x48 in four cassettes
>>
>>179931891
It was also capable of carrying 280 german 20mm rounds as it flew straight into the ground
>>
>playing Axis on Kuban
>our ground units are mostly light emplacements
>their ground units are all medium tanks
>thus our units are killable with 20/23mm guns, and theirs aren't
>therefore always lose by tickets even if we win the air battle, because there's always that one guy who fucks off to base and hides there
Someone defend this.

>inb4 just kill their attackers
Yeah, and get memed on by the Soviet fighters that you're now below.
>>
>>179932325
Well your mom is also capable of carrying my 10" magnum dong in her ass
>>
>>179932524
Oh damn, guess you got him
>>
>>179929894
Because when you rock around a corner and find an IS6, would you rather have a shell that won't pen with great post pen damage or one that will, regardless of post pen damage?
>>
What's the point of driving anything with a gun smaller than 120mm? You never one-shot anything unless they carry too much ammo.
>>
>>179934009
>you will never one shot anything with a gun smaller than 120mm
>laughing 85mm D-5T.jpg
>>
>>179934009
I get loads of one-shots with 75mm and above, consistently too
>>
>any map with forests
>die to ULQ niggers
>>
>>179934009
>what is the 88mm heil hitler for 5000
>>
>>179897927
>reward for logging in
>BM-21 test drive )))))
>>
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>>179743273
>My place in the team: 2

)))))))
>>
>shitters STILL flying and maining the G55s
>they're not flying the series 1 G55, which is better and looks a lot prettier
>>
>>179938387
One is premium, the other is not.
Also, muh torpedo.
>>
Who team Many Miles here?
>>
>>179940306
Who?
>>
>>179940813
You know who
>>
>>179940306
Who?
>>
>tfw you're actually happy because you're only 0.7BR away from the highest tanks in the match for once instead of a whole 1.0BR
>>
>>179938387
g.55s has a better climb and turn time iirc
>>
Will any of the 508s be participating in world war mode?
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>>179920707
they wanted to name it mammoth iirc then in a fit of self-humiliation changed it to little mouse but eventually decided the tank deserved more and changed its name to simply mouse, not a little one
>>
>>179911481
not a war crime unless they surrendered, they are now an airborne light infantryman armed with a pistol :^)
>>
>>179906814
that's mosquito
>>
>>179897369
yaks etc had radio since the early models, it's i-16 that mostly didn't have it

i think the radio even modeled in at least some of their cockpits if yoyu look around

also i thought it's panther broke all the time :^)
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>lose both wings on my Yak-17
>flies perfectly well, slowly losing altitude
>land
)))
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>>179895690
why does he have a brown spot in his crotch
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>mfw CTF is finally in war thunder
if they make this an actual mode in arcade, I will have a reason to go back to it
>>
>>179947491
what Il-2 mod is that?
>>
>>179897369
>infantry
missions that involve providing cover for infantry/mechanized infantry when?
>>
>>179948063
>missions that involve providing cover for infantry/mechanized infantry when?
Not in progress comrade (((
But here's this capture the flag mode ))
>>
tfw no ship cbt today
>>
I made a war thunder account years ago and I just logged into to find I have 10240 goodboy credits on my account. What do you guys recommend I spend them on? I don't know how I got them, but I do and might as well use them
>>
>>179951525
Premium time.
>>
>>179951525
what nation do you like?
>>
I started playing this game 2 weeks ago and was loving it, the moment I started to move past br 3 planes the game turned to complete shit.

I told myself I would never go past the first tier of planes because these games with progression systems are always terrible, and I was right.

what a dreadful experience, even with premium it's taking me ages to get the br 4.0 - 4.7 fighters even battle ready with the bare necessity of modifications.

no wonder nobody plays this fuckin game
>>
>>179953893
What nation does /wtg/ like?
>>
>>179954415
GroBgermanius, the Confederacy and based Rhodesia
>>
>>179951525
>10240 goodboy credits on my account.

>lying on the internet
>>
>>179954312
>planes
>bad grind
You don't even know what grinding is.
>>
>>179954415
Australia and Brazil
>>
>>179954415
North Korea.
>>
if i fill my plane with minimum fuel load will i catch on fire less?
>>
>>179909630
It's possible thought.
>>
>>179956339
)))))))))))))))))))))))
>>
>>179956339
not sure but you can maneuver better
>>
So this happened a whiiileee ago but it still pisses me off when I think about it

>Using some kind of spit with only 7.7s
>Catch yak 3 on fire
>Follow him putting some more rounds in his plane
>Fire goes out
>Catch him on fire again
>He dives and I assume he lost control
>Fire goes out and he pulls out of the dive just fine
>Dive down and shoot him some more
>Catches fire for a 3rd time
>His teammate takes me out
>Fire goes out again
>He tries to RTB but gets killed by my team mate
>I don't even get an assist when I back out of the match

How the fuck is that even possible?
>>
>>179957753

Self-sealing tanks, maybe you were hitting the engine and he got lucky by turning off his engine. It is not out of the realm of possibility.

He would have been pretty fucked up though. His engine was probably out and/or out of fuel.

I've gotten away with a few engine fires by turning it off completely.
>>
>>179956339
but half empty tanks are prone to blow up :^)
>>
>>179957753
the first rule when your plane is on fire - you turn off your engine, dive and pray

funnily but setting on fire doesn't count as a critical hit so indeed it's possible not to get an assist for it
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plz
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>>179959034
gib
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>>179959113
gaijin
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when
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when
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>>179960014
>>179960014
>>179960014
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