/stsg/ - Starsector General

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Being a pirate is hard.

>>179649532
>(((BUYING))) ships

>>179649762
Ships? No, but weapons are harder to come by.
If that wasn't enough, in that systems there are 2 fucking luddic markets. Including size 7 military one.

>>179649949

just learn to love the hammer. they're actually not too bad

>>179650159
Hammerheads are always a solid destroyer.
Cheap, good slots, ammo feeder will never not be useful, and durable enough to not get kited to death.

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First time going heavily modded with this game. Am I forgetting anything? Do Nex/Dyna just work or am I going to need to do ini edits for them?

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>>179650298

dude. no,

>>179650298
Hammerheads are great except for the fact that they can't focus fire frigates with their hardpoints. That shit is infuriating.

>>179650381

i'd leave out d-m, gk and neutrino tbqhwyfam

>>179650381
Mods are unethical

>>179650381
Templars are a boss faction. Do you want to fight a cruiser that can take on capitals and win?
IIRC GKS and Neutrino have balancing problems too.
If you can't aim for shit you can also get Leading Pip, like me

>>179650381
both of those mods just work out of the box

you left out SCY, which is a pretty good faction mod. also tyrador safeguard coalition isn't bad.

be aware that templars and to a lesser extent GKsec are really powerfully unbalanced.

>>179650519

two railguns are enough to at least get the frigs to fuck off

>>179650519
>not going SO on Hammerhead and murdering the fuck out of ships of all sizes

>>179650381
Outer Rim Alliance is a pretty good faction mod.
These don't add gameplay content, but I'd add Combat Chatter, Console Commands, Messy Portrait Pack and Portrait pack to that list too.

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You know, looking at it up close the Kura is a really damn small capital.

>>179650741
>>179650861
The things those anons were crying about last thread got "fixed" so please don't compare GKsec with templars they are closer to DME, also if you find anything else OP just tell me and I'll look at it like I did with those anons like the capital since it doesn't use shields balancing it is tricky
>>179650381
you need at least 5 more portrait packs

>>179651193
I'd second Combat Chatter and Console Commands for sure. Console commands for save transfer because better safe than sorry, and combat chatter is handy for keeping an eye on everything else in battle.

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>>179651386
Which one of these you called "hen" in polish?

If anyone was curious what a 640k bounty looks like here's one from shadowyards.
I'm slightly disappointed in all honesty.

>>179651698
The one in the middle that has some scales on the front.
Kura's my abbreviation for Kuramanja, didn't mean to accidentally speak Polish.

>>179651446

"fixed" indeed, faggot retard

>forgot his image

retard

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>>179652204
>forgot pic
Whoops.

>>179652324
Here ya go buddy, no hard feelings.

watch this retard who forgot his image use unbalanced mod ships and carriers too

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>>179652436
I think the term you're looking for is unethical, friend.
But I will admit the Karkinos is a really damn strong capital.

>>179652593
xd

>>179652796
E C K S D E E
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>>179650861
>>179651193
Alright, I'll toss in Scy and ORA. How OP is Neutrino? Stronger than DME? I've gotten pretty used to vanilla so I'm okay with having some stronger things to fight against.

>>179652849
fighters fighters fighters xd
missiles missiles missiles xd

>>179652913
I'd say Neutrino and DME are about equal, but people might argue that DME is stronger offensively whereas Neutrino is stronger defensively.

>>179650381
>First time going heavily modded with this game
>Dassault, GK, Neturino
get ready for QUALITY balance

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So if I would be to start the game fresh without ever touching it, what mods would you recommend and how should I go about with beginning my space life?

I tried it a year ago and didn't understand what the fuck I was doing, so I'm trying to give it a second chance.

>>179654474
first do a vanilla run or two to get a sense of everything. If you have trouble making money at first do bounties or trade missions

>>179654474

play it vanilla. it's got a tutorial now.

>>179654474
Do vanilla, do the tutorial, go after bounties(named), just concentrate on learning the combat and the ships. Do a bit of salvage and planet scanning while you're out hunting bounties.
Once you feel like you understand everything, which doesn't take long; just open the URL in the OP.
Nex makes it so the sector actually moves politically.
Everything else is personal preference on whether or not to include.

You're also pretty fucked on the modding front if you don't have 64-bit Java and/or shit RAM.

>>179654474
The only mod I'd recommend using on your first playthrough is Autosave.

>>179654818
>>179654845
>>179655106
>>179655140
Thanks guys, I'll do a vanilla run then. I also have 8gigs RAM, but I have no idea what you mean by 64-bit Java. Care to elaborate?

>>179654474
all the portrait packs, combat chatter, auto save, common radar and maybe lightshow

>>179655441

32bit java can only address just under 4gb memory. the game can easily use more than that if you run a bunch of mods

but since the game comes bundled with 64bit now it's nothing to worry about. if you want to run a lot of mods later you might have to edit a config file that's all.

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>>179655441
Do you have a 64-bit operating system or not?

Take note of the bottom link in the OP when you do get around to modding.

>>179655517
I personally can't stand common radar, just doesn't look like it fits. And tabbing out to the map in combat teaches how your fleet is generally behaving which is important to learn.

Speaking of the fucking portrait packs. In the messy pack, I think this one looks really good, EXCEPT FOR THE FUCKING LEFT EYE, looks like she's fucking crosseyed.
Am I the only one who noticed this?

>>179656032
>64-bit OS
Yes. I thought you meant this, but I wasn't sure.

>>179656032
>Am I the only one who noticed this?
Not anymore, you piece of shit.

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>>179656032
slightly better now?

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>>179657423
v2

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>Getting bored with current playthrough.
>Every time I try to make a new ally pearson league decides they want to war with them and drag me with them.
>All that's left is conquering shit until I win.
>Rich as fuck from bounties.
Blackrock was fun but I want to move on.
Any recommendations for a new playthrough from this list?
>tfw keep trying to do mining playthroughs but its too underwhelming to be fun.

>>179650519
What that other guy said, Hammerheads with SO are my favorite destroyer next to the Sunder.

>>179662850
Could always go a pirates run

>>179662850
Change the Nexerelin settings so that all factions are ally-compatible with each other, except yours that will be the exact opposite
Ask Dark Revenant if there is a config options for Nexerelin alliances tech-sharing (ie: diable+brdy alliance will use tech from both sides), if there is then enable it, if there is not then bitch at him until he put it in Dynasector
Change your faction ships settings to only have the shittiest stuff possible, real bottom of the barrel crap
Never buy any ship or weapon from other factions but yours, salvage only and no restoring otherwise
Go and win

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>>179656743
;^)

>>179657732
>>179657423
Neat, I tried to fix it with a couple of pixels but it never looked right so I just went with this one instead.

Yours does fix it though.

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>tfw every time I finish a battle and click "pick through the wreckage" I immediately get Dead Flag Blues stuck in my head

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>>179663874

So how are you supposed to beat Iron Sheikh in arcade mode?

>Page 10
I need to make more webms.

>>179670689
Now that there aren't as many new updates and Dong is weeks out the thread is going to stabilize. We get more "game doesn't work halp" posts more than anything

>>179673212
I try to do blog posts now and then to keep the thread alive but sometimes its hard to find things to discuss other than how OP the latest mod is or some shit, unless shenanigans happen in the game I'm playing.
Starsector has the EDF curse, where there's so much worth playing few people stick around to discuss.
As such its kinda hard to keep threads alive.

>>179675103
That's kind of normal? /stsg/ comes and goes whenever there's a big update. We knew the thread was going to trail off and die eventually. Better this than to have it degrade into shitposting anyways. Just have fun with the game.

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>>179675512
Relative to the average thread it's still abnormal.

The typical types of general threads are:

people are playing the game in question and the population is
A1) big enough to sustain the thread (/assfaggots/, /twg/, /poeg/ etc.)
A2) not big enough to sustain the thread and dying (/stsg/, /civ4xg/ prior to Stellaris, etc.)

not dying because people aren't playing the game in question
B1) because it is shit, even to its audience (thankfully I don't have any examples of this, I know they exist but I am not at the level of human being required to endlessly talk about a game you hate)
B2) because it is waiting on a specific update or event (/stsg/ before the last couple of weeks, /twg/ before the warhammer boom, etc.)

thread is in a disgusting state of unholy living-death kept on life-support by:
C1) Waifu shitposting (/tesg/, /ksg/ etc.)
C2) B2 begins to stretch into eternity (/mbg/, etc.)

D) thread is used as a communications platform alongside playing the game (/domg/, etc.)

Regardless of the category, almost any category can be positive or negative. Like /poeg/ and /twg/ are fairly similar in people playing:people talking, but the former is pretty cancerous, and the latter is decent.

What the fuck am I spending my time thinking about?

>>179676993
>B1
/pdg/

>>179677359
Ah! I have m8s who played it in the past, as I'm led to believe the developer's direction moving forwards may well create that sort of situation, tricking the people into a B1 scenario even if they weren't human filth to begin with.

>>179676993
>because it is shit, even to its audience
Does sc2 count? It doesn't fall entirely under that category but I'm having a hard time determining what it is.

>>179678130
sc2 is a special existence completely removed from the rest of /vg/.

>>179678202
Aight, fair enough.
Can't even argue.
Why the hell do they still go there anyway when all they do is roll around in shitposting and laugh?

>>179675512
>>179676993
I didn't even hear about 8.1 being out until yesterday. I'm pretty sure this update just got nowhere near the attention that 8 did because the general already existed and so there wasn't a week-long chain of threads on /v/ about it.

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>getting interdicted by the leftovers from a previous engagement
>massive pirate fleet burns out of nowhere and engages me while i'm trying to crawl out of range

this is some spicy bullshit, senpai

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>>179679074
>stray shots from a talon dogfight in my rear
>oh boy i hope degraded engines doesn't cause a--
>Flameout!
>fucking hell
>get fluxed and raped by a cluster of fucking shuttles

that's it, i'm done

How do you figure out the correct name to use for .faction files? I want to add the portraits to GKS.

>>179678349
Some of them actually like sc2, but because the general was basically a spectator sport general for proleague nowadays you just get nonstop shitposting especially as the progamer scene changes up.

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Infinite Space portrait pack: https://mega.nz/#!gzInCKRb!BFh9mq4eYxcZPNE0AHTtpiFvtTpTd3XWy9_lF8w9WFM

The first four aren't used. Also, none of the time skip shit. I took them from the Stellaris mod, so not going to post it on the forum.

>>179682471
Cool stuff anon.

>>179682471
Neat. I loved Infinite Space even if the game damn near required a guide at times.

>>179683324
Infinite Space has a lot of ships, weapons, and factions that could be used in a mod. Shame I lack the talent to do it.

>>179650381
remove neutrino, they are way too broken. not in the sense of templars or GKS, they are built in such a way you can't kill them unless you do carrier spam. Not because they are unbalanced, they will rarely kill your ships. they just keep surviving until you run out of CR

Templars are

>>179684420
Boss

>>179676993
It can be rounded up even further

A - Game has no replay value and the general only exists because it got too big for /v/, treading on the verge of death (us and a couple oddballs, Risk of Rain exists in the line between /v/ and /vg/ because their playerbase can not keep a /vg/ thread up despite multiple attempts)
B - Game has single player replay value backed by either sandboxes, a massive external community and/or years of mods, making the general basically self sustaining (/stalkerg/, /dfg/, /xcomg/, basically every singleplayer game that made it to /vg/), the general usually loves the shit out of their game
C - Game has limited multiplayer based on community made servers (/domg/, minecraft, runescape), general's population is really into the community, often actively creating content and knowing each other. Occassionally, inter community drama explodes and the threads are unusable for some weeks
D - Game has matchmaking multiplayer or is a mmo and is often kept alive by e-sports drama and waifuposting. Like 80% of the posters don't care about the game per se (arguably, because most of them already played it to death) and people wil try really hard to rile each other up - These guys are the ones who practicaly set /vg/'s reputation as a cesspool where game go to die, and to this day this perception hasn't wore off.
E - Genre generals that get multiple communities that wouldn't sustain their own general on their own. Porn generals tend to contain weaponised autism.

Basically /stsg/ exist in the fringe category of non sustainable generals.

>>179678130
Back, a million years ago when I cared about the game I had a glance at it.
I was thinking of putting /sc2 under C1, because all I remember is k-pop waifu brain-death.
And even back then it was definitely more dead than not.

>>179687904
Nah it's more of just lel, kek, hi, getting pizza, scarlet, tehehe posting nowadays. I'd rather see this thread die than fall into the black hole that's /sc2/

>>179688082
Fair enough, I didn't commit it to that category because it's been that long since I saw it. I wouldn't say good to see things haven't changed in quality, just the choice of shitpost; because that sentence includes the word: "Good". So I don't know what to say.

should i even bother with PD lasers on a wolf? they do seem to shoot down lone missile reliably, but there's always a 50/50 chance that a second one will get through if i'm facing volleys.

>>179689356
1 burst pd should be enough.

>>179686262
Is it worth masquerading a Starsector thread in /v/ as "spacefaran games thread"? Maybe by odd chance some will come
Or this will become spacefaran games general

>>179687904
it's one of those competetive multiplayer game where the e-sports led to massive shitposting and drama, also shitting on blizzard is a (admitedly justified) past time on /v/

So firmly on B1 on first anon's chart and D on second anon's chart. Also the k pop waifuists are a notoriously persistent circlejerk that has been removed from at least 3 boards before getting moved to /mu/

>>179689762
/v/ treads last on average two hours you can't have any themed thread without ending up with a general, those get noticed and shat on after one or two weeks.

Theoretically we could muster enough people for a sci fi / space travel general (all them sweet, sweet old school space battle games) without stepping on /indie/'s toes

>>179690104
I mean wouldn't this technically fit under /indie/

>>179690104
Well, from what I've seen we talk about other similar games here sometimes anyway. Like Endless Sky and... EV and I ran out of ideas. It's funny that 3D spacefaring games are different sort than 2D

>>179690224
Starsector? Yes, definitely. Although it's fairly bigger than your average indie game.

For the theoretical general, if you only consider modern sci fi 2d games, yes.

But there's a lot of ground in sci fi space games not covered by /indie/ and /x4/ / stellaris general. There's dozens of 90s 3d games about spaceflight including space battles, first person dogfights and flying simulators, non 4x strat games, some odd stuff like sandboxes of the literal kind (universe2) or stuff where you just build sci fi stuff, even anime mecha games if you go all out.

There's room for the genre, though there's currently not any major sci fi franchise in need of a general (elite, eve and stellaris are all big enough for their own general)

>>179679074
would be scary if pirates didn't drop like fliest

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>FIVE d-mods
this patch is not pulling any punches with making the early game ship acquisition as miserable as possible.

>>179692338
And? Either you can somewhat easily get a better frigate or you don't have a choice anyway and need everything you can get your hands on.

>>179692338
atleast that rustbucket can shoot and costs 0 supplies

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>tfw want to leave askonia but the near-infinite source of fuel/supply, acceptable food prices for aid runs, independent and diktat military station, and aggro-free black market keeps me from packing my shit and relocating

>>179693576
Just grab Nex and generate a new sector - you won't get trapped in Askonia because there's no Askonia

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>>179692338

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>>179693780

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>page ten

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So is the modder planning on nerfing this monster a little? I´m not against giant ships but this is just unfair

>>179701109
The thing is literally broken. It is so large, has so many weapons, and so many fighter wings. That it causes a multitude of performance problems, crash problems, and AI problems.

It simply is far outside the parameters of what the SS engine can cope with well.

>>179683464
Wait, which Infinite Space?

There was one on Steam, and one on the DS that were both based on space travel and ship/fleet maint stuff but made by completely different companies.

>>179700564
We need /v/

>>179701689
You really want a nonstop spam of shill cuck WE /pol/ nigger shareblue brown bricks furry futa what did he mean with this console wars autistic screeching etc etc?

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>>179701109
>>179701385
don't see anything wrong with it, seems balanced

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>>179701883
is blackedrock a good mod to start with?

>Try safety overrides for the first time
whew lad
tons of speed, doubles your flux dissapation, and the only consequence is that you can't vent?

>>179690614
Would be good if pirates eventually upgraded their ships to not be useless shieldless freighters

>>179702728

and all weapon range over 450 range gets cut by 2/3rds, and your peak CR time gets cut to almost nothing

SO let you make a one-trick pony. it's a very good trick though.

>>179702861
all the best weapons only have 450 range anyways

>>179701883
/v/ isn't a bogeyman, it's where we're all from originally. It's less directed and the grass isn't trimmed like it is here, but by and large the same people are both here and there.

>>179702861
by best weapons with 450 range I meant 600 range because phase lances on every medium energy slot is how I play this game

>>179703038

with SO you should really be running heavy blasters instead

>>179703156
They aren't very flux efficient though

>>179703284

dude. safety overrides.

>>179703284
But they have high DPS. You don't take SO to rock "flux efficient" weapons.

>>179703368
>>179703357
Haven't used heavy blasters much yet, maybe I'll try slapping them on

>>179703548
Sunder with 3 HB and HEF activated will have 2250 DPS. I'm pretty sure that's enough to kill everything

>>179704264
Not when you run out of flux before the enemy

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I get a crash and this error every time I kill an enemy in Arcade mission. What do?

>>179706137
Are your mods up to date?

>>179707898
Nevermind, I'm a retard. SWP was out of date and was not compatible with Dyna 1.3.
Thanks for reminding me, anon.

Are wolfpups ethical

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>Time Accelerator

I think I'm in love lads

>>179709618
Anything other than a single Hound (D) armed with a single MG on the rear and no hullmods, capacitors, vents and pilot skills is ethical.
And even then, it's only fully ethical if you go against full fledged TriTach capital fleets

>>179709816
*pilot skills is unethical
Fuck my phone

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>The squad

>>179708486
I hope you haven't updated save transfer yet if you had anything.

The current version of SWP breaks saves and the current Save transfer only works with current SWP.

>>179710463

techperv

>>179710926
Luddcuck

>>179710463
>not IBB Astral

>>179710860
Just started using Nex so I start new runs every five minutes. No progress lost.

>>179711168
I'm keeping an eye out for that bounty

Doing bounty board missions, the one labeled as easy for my fleet.

Absolutely get wrecked every fucking time I try.

>>179716490

git gud

>>179716572
I just bought more ships.

>>179701970

Where is this game made? That engrish is fucking terrible.

>>179718303

it's from a mod, numb-nuts

>>179718303
>being this X

>>179716490
IBB are actually hard unlike regular bounties. They don't retreat and the mod ships will fuck shit up.

>>179662850
What mod has a planet that has one of it's poles pointed right at you so you can see the messy as fuck bunching where the entire edge of the texture meets at one point?
Because that's just shit.

>>179718370
>>179719339

I don't even know what this game is let alone what mods it has. That's why I'm browsing this forum, to get ideas for a new game to play.

>>179720562
You really think people would be discussing this game if that was what the vanilla content was like?

>>179720271
The IBB mod ships, do you get multiple chances at getting them or does each mod ship only show up once?

>>179720785
you can get them in the Prism Freeport if you run Nex if you didn't salvage them

>>179720892
Thanks. I do run nex indeed.

>>179720892
Even if you don't have Nex I think old SWP put Prism Freeport in the same system as the SCY home system, or at least, that was where it was for me. I'm running .81 without Nex or Dyna, just SWP, and I can still buy them in Prism over there

>SS+ 0.8a
So is it actually for 0.8a or is that a typo in both description and heading for 0.8.1a?

>>179721235
SS+ is discontinued. Its features will take Nex & SWP. And maybe Dynasector, I'm not sure

>>179721235
SS+ is deprecated. all of it's functions have been incorporated in D.R's other mods and it is no longer supported and will not be updated further

>>179721330
>>179721357
And Dynasector is what exactly, a pack of the faction mods?

>>179721856
It's the part that creates new variants other than the standard ones.
In other words: more varied loadouts for enemy fleets (i remember one time a IBB fleet having fucking Clarents in some of their ships small slots)

>>179721856
>
DynaSector integrates mod content into the game, dynamically. For every supported mod, DynaSector changes fleet, market, and variant compositions to increase the variety of content you see in the Sector. DynaSector includes a variant randomization engine, enhanced bounties, improved submarkets, and a new character creation system.

>>179722005
I never use Templars and Dyna together.

>>179722413
Templar weapons only spawn on Exotic-theme or Cabal-theme fleets.

>>179722413
Your loss, that was the thighest shit possible, almost felt like one of those human-sized-boss-in-a-platinum-game fights

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That's a few fighter wings

>>179720892
Who in freeport sells them? the high end or intel trader? (I couldn't access the intel traders stuff due to them not liking me enough).

>>179724108
high end

>>179724046
Flak it up

>>179720892
>Had only made the first 2 IBB
>zeus shows up in PF
Almost bought it, but it´s not the same without beating it first
my only complain is how annoying is that you need to do the lower tier bounties for the rest to show up. Fuck´s sake, I kill 3M bounties for a living, don´t make me chase 3 mod frigates

i haven't played with the s/w pack since 8.0, what are the cabal wasps like?

What's a good ratio for fleet composition? I was doing 4:3:2:1 frigate:destroyer:cruiser:battleship because I'm lazy, but I always end up getting overwhelmed.

>>179724905

0010

>>179724731
Buy it and stash it, then once you beat the IBB use the stashed one so the real one doesn't get scratched

anyone else has every warning beacon populated and without redacted with non-Corvus mode or is it just me?
>>179725358
too late, it´s long gone. you´re right tho, next time I´ll do it

>>179724905
Depends on how you want to run your fleet.
I run 2:4:4:1 myself and generally have no problems.

>>179725523
My starting system had a yellow beacon and no redacted. Don't remember noticing any other inhabited systems with beacons though.

>>179724905
lategame? It depends. in general I have 3-5 capitals and the rest is pretty much meat shields that I pick up along the way. with Omni I was able to be more consistent and I went full brawler. when you have 10 brawlers taking hits for you all-offensive builds are very viable, and you can get insane amounts of kills with the right capital if you do it right. Victory-class is fucking insane when you don´t have to worry about defending

Where's Prism Freeport supposed to be? Can't find the damn thing.

>>179726603
Center of the sector, in hyperspace. use GOTO command if you have problems

>>179726603
If you have scy enabled, it will be in their system. Note that the prism that scy spawns a worse prism than the one that comes with nex

>>179727461
Why does SCY do that? What about random mode, too?

>>179728212
If you look at the scy mod thread, it's because tarf believes since he made prism and adds it to scy bc why not. Random gen spawns it in hyperspace in previous versions

>>179728212
Read the SCY lore

I can't seem to have
>Dynasector
>Nexerelin
>Ship/Weapon Pack
>Underworld
activated at all or else I get a ton of errors about missing commands not found in packages. Any idea what's with that? I have LazyLib 2.2 and ZZ GraphicsLib 1.2.1 which are the required files for just about everything.

>>179728687
He can have his Prism Freeport, but why it has to be worse?
>>179728716
Can't right now, I'm playing Stellaris

>>179728854
He does not want prism to be the one stop shop for everything, so it generally has a smaller pop near 4. Not to mention that it isn't as accessible as the nex prism

>>179728854
>stellaris
Lol, drop that shit and read the lore.

>>179729490
With friends. They don't have ES2 (yet?)

>>179729598

friends don't let friends play stellaris

>>179724731
You get a wider range of IBBs if you're more progressed into the game, but you can effectively skip them just by taking every IBB mission you see and letting them expire.

Why does the Atlas have worse efficiency than the Colossus? It can carry 200 supplies per fuel, the Colossus will do 300.

Also, why doesn't the same economy of scale apply to the tankers? As is I'm just forced to keep my fleet small so my max burn is high and my costs are low.

>>179730271
I think it's supposed to be the whole "number of ships in fleet versus actual efficiency" thing. So the Atlas isn't a hard upgrade over the Colossus and while it helps cut down on ships (though honestly if you've modded settings this doesn't matter much) it isn't as efficient

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>>179730271
Alex didn't think about that or thought that Atlas's better supply efficiency will make up for that. And then there's issue of limited ships in the fleet, where Atlas would win by simply having more capacity.
And what do you mean "ecnomy of scale apply to the tankers"? This one is simple, because bigger = more efficient, always. Fuel efficiency for all tankers is the same.

anyone else's random nexerelin sectors not having a prism freeport? I made sure that prism freeport was enabled.

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>game crashed while saving because I forgot to increase memory allocation

>>179731563
Do you have SCY on. This is the first detail you should mention. Please don't give us help requests without telling us the relevant information or else we're stuck guessing.

>>179731639
SCY is on, but I read that random nexerelin generation would still use a hyperspace prism freeport as per normal

>>179731828
Either what you read is right or what >>179727461 said is right. I would check SCY's system anyways.

>>179731953
I've already checked all stations under intel, no prism freeports are in this cluster.

>>179732035
If I remember correctly you can dig into the config files to find it assuming it generated but I don't have a config file on hand right now to confirm for you. I'd just start up a new save to crosscheck with.

>>179732206
started a new save and according to nexerelin's directory function, the prism freeport /is/ in hyperspace, but it's not showing on the map

>>179732836
Or you could disable scy...

>>179733105
I found it, but it's odd that it doesn't show on the map. previous versions of nex didn't have this issue

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>Page 10
This build ain't the best for everything, but damn is it fun. Taking out small slippery ships is a pain though.

>>179736438
I've never touched arcade mode, is Helios like the best ship or something

>>179736996
Its what they give you for Arcade mode, and only available for use in arcade mode.

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So what mods are confirmed to run decently without many issues?
I'm eyeing all faction mods+Arsenal Expansion+Hegemony Expeditionary+ATX
Current list at the moment.
Also, autonomous ships for 0.8.1 when?

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wtf is this shit?
i can not catch them and they not engage, so what is even the point of them being there?

>>179736438
I've revised god-tier loadout, turns out swapping for plasma flamers and CEPCs is pretty good and flux-affordable. Not to mention flamers have 600 DPS each.
>>179736996
Helios is only ship in Arcade, probably because nobody bothered with making another.
>>179737636
They're faster than you and that's why they can do that. You supposedly have to have some fast ships in your fleet as well (same burn level as their ships). I don't like it either.

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>>179730759
if you've got the ship/weapon pack, you can even surpass atlas's supply efficiency with an (A) buffalo

>>179738376
but they are dormant and you can harass them to zero CR
what is the point of yellow sectors now?
NOT EVEN MENTION THAT MOST OF REMNANTS FRIGATES HAVE 11 BURN AND ONLY TEMPEST HAVE EQUAL
alex stop doing crocodile

>"maxMarketProcurementConcurrent":30;
>"maxAnalyzeEntityConcurrent":30;
>"maxSurveyPlanetConcurrent":15;
Are these lines in the settings.json the max amount of those missions types available in the entire sector?

>>179662850

Do SCY or Imperium for your next. They both have large, well varied selections of ships and weapons that are fun to put together loadouts and fleet compositions for.

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well that's a new one

>>179740157
Does the Nemean Lion still have armour plating that comes off with damage?

>>179739581
No point to yellows. Drop rate nerf hit yellows too hard, and the best weapon drops come from the Brilliants anyways.

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>>179740267

hahah what

>>179740428

I'm pretty sure it does. Tart said he updated all the ships that used to use twiglib to the new built-in modular system. I haven't actually used or fought one since the updated SCY came out though, so I can't say for sure.

>>179740664
>>179740267
What's this?

>>179740664

oh i see, that's 7^3 projectiles. whoops.

>>179740751

i'm just dicking around with mirvs. forgot to change a 7 to a 1.

Question: how should the Vparams look if i want to give it a maximum of 6 GB of ram?

>>179741067
Multiples of 1024. First value for initiation second value for maximum.

>>179741317
They changed it. Both numbers should be the same now.
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=42ba47deb839ea3c2f3da01690c61602&topic=8726.0

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>>179741317
>Multiples of 1024

>>179740428
Yeah, just like Lamia and Cordotta (?), they're armoured too, though their armour is much subtler.

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>>179741317
>>179741423
>multiples of 1024
Welp, this is a problem then, what do?

>>179741603
1536 is 1.5GB. Change xmx and xms to 6144 for 6GB.

>>179741603
Actually any number would work, just powers of 2 and multiples of those powers work best. 1536 is 1024+512, AKA 1,5 GiB. For 6 GiB you should replace these with 6144k. Or just 6g

>>179741423
>Change numbers at all
>Game doesn't even launch
Am I able to use the old vmparams from earlier versions?

>>179742021
So if i want it to be between 2 and 6 GB of ram i should write Xms 2g Xmx 6g ?

>>179742078
Are you sure you didn't overwrite some other character along the way (like "k" at the end of those numbers)?

>>179742146
Like "m"*, for "megabytes".
>>179742141
Generally it's best for both values to be the same but SS shouldn't have any issues with that much RAM. So yeah, "-Xms2g -Xmx6g" should work

IS there any way except cores to get a relation with a faction above 65? All I'm getting is that my relationship is ''already well-established''.

>>179742146
Didn't at all. Changing only numbers from 1024 to a multiple, like the 4096 or 3072 but it stops working completely until I change it back to 1024.

>>179742445
That's weird. 0.8.1 came with 64bit java and so if you have such, it should work, if you have changed only numbers. If you're sure that you have 64-bit system, this means either I don't know what's happening or mysteriously installer gave you 32-bit version.

>>179742662
Is there a way I can check which java bit version it installed?

>>179742750

winkey java

>>179742662
>>179742750
Hold on a tick. I went and applied the old jre from the previous SS version that had the new java manually placed in. Came up with
>Java 7 is the only supported version of Java. Trying to use version: 1.8.0_73

I guess it did install an old one?

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>>179742750
The fact it flips out at non-default values is a somewhat a give-away as well.

>>179743020
Says same thing, amd64.

>>179743019
Java 7 is intended version for Starsector because 8 is unstable.
>>179743148
If you want you can try my working vmparams, but I don't think it will help,
java.exe -XX:CompilerThreadPriority=1 -XX:+CompilerThreadHintNoPreempt -Djava.library.path=native\\windows -Xms1536m -Xmx3072m -Xss1024k -classpath janino.jar;commons-compiler.jar;commons-compiler-jdk.jar;starfarer.api.jar;starfarer_obf.jar;jogg-0.0.7.jar;jorbis-0.0.15.jar;json.jar;lwjgl.jar;jinput.jar;log4j-1.2.9.jar;lwjgl_util.jar;fs.sound_obf.jar;fs.common_obf.jar;xstream-1.4.2.jar -Dcom.fs.starfarer.settings.paths.saves=..\\saves -Dcom.fs.starfarer.settings.paths.screenshots=..\\screenshots -Dcom.fs.starfarer.settings.paths.mods=..\\mods -Dcom.fs.starfarer.settings.paths.logs=. com.fs.starfarer.StarfarerLauncher

>>179743019
That is why you fucked up, don't copy the old JRE, that is why your game is no longer starting, I ahd the same problem. Just reinstall the game, and use the JRE that comes bundled with the installer.

>>179743725
You CAN launch SS with Java 8 (after editing Starsector\starsector-core\config\settings.json), it's just you put yourself at risk of random crashes and save corruption.

>>179743725
I did that to see if that might launch it but it didn't. Otherwise I have constantly been messing with the default JRE.

>>179743651
Still didn't work, had same problem where nothing happens when launching. I'll try simply reinstalling and see if that works.

>>179742413
Have you tried doing bounties for them?

Underworld, get or forget?

>>179745797
Get, I really like the pirate shit they added, and if you don't like the cabal you can just turn it off.

>>179745797
Do you want to be a pirate? You can demand money & shit from people instead of just killing everybody.
Also some of their ships are nice

>>179746137
Depends, Cabal sounds like templar, but definitely going to try out the new pirate ships

>>179746385
cabal are really just high tech pirates that you can pay off / bribe instead of fight. nothing OP like templars

>>179746385
Cabal is high-tech LP, nothing more, though sometimes they spam fleets like a bitch

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Fucking shields didn't get up because fuck you REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>179729598
>Playing Stellaris
>Playing Stellaris when you could be playing sexy space vampires from the catholic church of the endless.
>Playing Stellaris when you could be playing weaponized cockroaches.
>Playing Stellaris when you could be playing a genius narcissist who cloned himself into an empire.
>Playing Stellaris when you could be playing out-of-universe entities looking to un-fuck their own universe, with our universe being their equivalent of w40k's warp.
>Playing Stellaris when you could be playing Jew frogs.
>Playing Stellaris when you could be playing a distopian human empire bent on conquest.
>Playing Stellaris when you could be playing LITERAL FUCKING TREES.
And finally:
>Playing Stellaris when you could be listening to the latest track of FlyByNo.

>>179748582
>playing endless space
>playing endless space when you could be playing as a ETHICAL freelance mercenary

>>179748786
>Not playing one game when you get bored of the other and cycling endlessly between them for the universe's comfiest sci-fi experience.

>>179748868
>comfiest
If i wanted to sleep i'd play EVE but i prefer my bed since it's free.

4xg-rejects fuck off

>>179746660
>>179746805
they also have a decent submarket if you keep bribing them, i've found a lot of good high-tech ships there before, even templar ones

>>179750863
yeah isn't it tri-tachyon markets that will have a cabal submarket? I might try to do a cabal playthrough.

>>179749047
My point is that they're both enjoyable games, and I appreciate them both equally.

>>179750998
Some do, but I think he may have changed which ones. The Tri-Tach market in Magec has one for sure, I know that much.

Is Neutrino as OP as TME? What about GKS?

>>179751887
Neutrino is way more OP than DME is, GKS isn't as bad as it was before since missiles got nerfed.

>>179755001
Why the escort orders?

>>179755489
I try and keep my frigates grouped up, so if they get caught in a bad position, at least they'll have a friend to help them. Wolves go in pairs, Vigilances are split into 2 large groups.

>>179755489

maybe he likes seeing frigates die

should i edit the officers max level or skill points per level? i am already putting my character max level back to normal but what was max player level before?

>>179755489
I put escort orders on ships that don't have a lot of defense against harassment but do other things. For example, protecting a missile cruiser from frigate harrasment.
Also helps keep everyone together so you don't have ships running into the enemy capital alone and dying horribly as a result.

>>179755595
What you could try doing is have your vigilances put around your carriers, so that they all hang in the back.

should i transfer my save from 7.2 or start fresh?

Flu-X any good?

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>>179757135

dunno lol

>>179755001
How are you running commands in combat view? Ctrl-backspace doesn't work for me there.

>>179758149
Have you tried hitting alt+tab after ctrl+backspace?

>>179757252
jesus christ

>>179757252
>kill me

>>179758427
Considering it's a SPAZ inspired mod? Definitely.

>>179756541
Why?
Unless you want them to have less skill points per level.
You can increase max level of officers in enemy fleets plus their officers skill points for harder fights.

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>>179757252
pardon me?

>>179757252
You know, visuals aside, that thing has ORA tier broadside capabilities.

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>tired of bounty fleets fielding carriers en mass
>like, "1+ moras and other light carriers per bounty fleet on average" kind of spammage
>put swarmers on my onslaught and set them to autofire
>come at me, filthy fighters
>watch as half the missiles overshoot while the other half gets shot down by fighters themselves

i'm not sure what i expected

>save is corrupted
That's ok, it keeps a backup, all I have to do is rename the .bak to .xml and it should be-
>backup is also corrupted

FUCK I guess I'll play dark souls instead.

>>179763641
use "copy save"

>>179763605
You have 18 ballistic mounts on the Onslaught, and between Devastator Cannons, Flak Cannons, and Vulcan Cannons, every single one of them can house a big fat fuck you to fighters. Why bother with missiles?

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>>179763641
>>179764313
Unless you're playing on iron mode. Then you can do that. You can however just copy the save directory elsewhere and delete and replace a save with this copy.
This fucking still allows you to savescum no matter what. It works with basically all non-online ironman modes, I've fucking already done it three times in my most recent save, twice with mission time limits, one being getting a bounty a day late and the other one was "find a fucking domain era ship in a nebula near the edge of the nebula" and the third one was wandering into a really interesting bounty fight only to realize that I was retarded and didn't set up weapon groups on my shiny new cruiser

>>179764413
>flak
>devastator
>stopping fighters
i'm yet to see them kill fighters reliably while on autofire, if at all. they're really good at blanket-stopping rocket/missile volleys, but that's about it.

>>179764313
It's not even in the menu any more, I guess it's that fucked.

>>179766214
You fucked up on restoring the backup then

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>Page 10
Should we just let the thread die?

>>179770319
I'm conflicted, because on one hand I like the game and I love discussing about it here, but on the other hand the general's probably going to die sooner or later.
Problem is there's just not much to discuss other than how OP certain mod factions are, how mod development is going, and how drunk Alex is.
What could we discuss other than that?

>>179770672
Besides newbie help, which doesn't come along too often and can be answered with a pastebin or something anyway, I have no idea. There's always the stray person who gets lured in and asks something I guess.

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It's probably a good time to increase my memory allocation

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>>179771435
listen man I hate to be this guy because I hate the mod elitists that shitpost in these threads but
>arkandian

>>179771435
Running all that shit and no Version Checker?

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>210k bounty
>'very large fleet'
>leader is riding an onslaught
>"well, it' just over 200k, so i better be safe..."
>store the frigs and bring some extra eagles
>run into the bounty fleet
>it's one onslaught, a sunder, and a bunch of damaged frigates

well fuck me, i guess i'm just *supposed* to tow extra ships around and eat the net loss and let the ship lottery fuck me over eventually.

tighten the bounty supply range already for fuck's sake, alex.

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>Vigilances

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Well shit, that's not something you see every day.
Its like they know my love for flanking onslaughts.

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What's your highest combo, stsg?

>>179770991
I dunno, earlier on people debated just going to /indie/ or finding some sort of niche elsewhere in /v/, but admittedly unless Alex has MAJOR PLANS for .83 or .9, we probably aren't going to last the month. It's not really like you can comment on a 4chan screenshot let's play of some guy's Nex campaign without it devolving into another mod discussion.

That said has anyone tried Nex with RED?

>>179774202
Not nearly that high, I think my highest was 15x. I should change my main weapons, the Unstable Photon Cannons are really cool and pretty good in their own way, but the projectile speed really hurts its ability to quickly take down several ships quickly unless I fire at point-blank range. They also make taking down small green ships a nightmare, a green Decurion showed up, and I ended up just leaving it alone since every time I got close, it would just boost away or throw up its unbreakable shields.

So, speaking of dead things, I just picked the game up last night.

I'm just starting to play, have finished the tutorials, but I've seen talk about mods. I don't want anything major, just some more character portraits.

Where can I find some? I saw there was a pack of Infinite Space ones earlier in the thread, but where can I find some more?

>>179776231
Go to the official forums. I think they've got either Messy on there or the other one besides Messy, then they've also got LoGH and Power Dolls.

>>179776231
There are a few on the official forums if you look up "portrait pack".
Here's the link to Messy Portrait Pack since I'm pretty sure it isn't on there.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/i5fv2c6a68po3va/Messy+Portrait+Pack.zip

>>179776512
>>179776581
Thanks folks.

Much obliged.

I started as my own faction. Is there any way to access military markets of other factions without commissions?
can you take up multiple commissions?

>>179771435
What, nex too good for you?

>>179776981
Just stick to Prism Freeport. You cannot commission for multiple factions.

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>>179774202

>>179777406
The hell happened.
Did you fire the templar shotgun into a corner and it just riocheted everywhere as they spawned in?
That's fucking metal dude.

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>tfw finally making progress in trophy room.
>tfw a couple of them even have meaning now from experiences.

>salvaged by first onslaught
>damaged engines

~__~

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>there's more stuff beyond the fog of war
this is supposed to be a 160k bounty.

i don't understand. why is that fleet so massive to begin with and why does the AI get to deploy its entire fleet no matter the size and i'm capped at 120 supply?

i've been bashing my head against this fight for the fifth time now. even if i play my heart out and micromanage the hell out of my ships, i literally don't have the CR to break through this.

>>179781472
was there 2 bounties around the same planet

>>179781472
You're capped because you haven't raised the ship limit setting which is in settings (second tab). You should raise that to the maximum and a 160k bounty will let you deploy your full fleet.

Looks like you're up against a large group of destroyers, but you're not playing to your advantage. Your cruisers are all clumped up in a group, which means they're only effective against a specific area, leaving the enemy free to control other zones. You've got ships in there drifting off to go do whatever, but the ships that are drifting off are the answers to the frigates.

Reduce the numbers advantage that the enemy has by pulling back instead of pushing forward. Concentrate your forces and let the enemy come to you, frigates first. Work through them, then focus on whatever destroyers you find.

dynasector dont work with ss+?

>>179784984
ss+ doesn't work full stop, its done

>>179785145
what about vengeance fleets?

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>>179774202
>72 combo
My highest ever was, I think, 30-40. But I didn't care much about combos after defeating bosses, so it may be higher.

>>179785406
guess some other mod will have to add it

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>>179776981
Uhhh shouldn't you be able to ally with other factions?
>>179777406
Oh my fucking christ, what the fuck happened there?
>>179781472
Deployment limit in settings is for all participants and if you're smaller than the enemy, you can deploy less ships.
>>179785406
Nex took them

Speaking of Arcade, updated god-tier loadout (I think). the DPS on this thing is amazing

>>179777074
>What, nex too good for you?

I haven't gotten around to getting it yet, seems too crash prone, besides it doesn't add very much

>>179786342
>besides it doesn't add very much
Wait what.

>>179755489
I put escort orders almost everytime I fight. AI tends to disperse.

>>179760458
It´s also a pretty good missile platform if you ask me with 4 medium + 2 large. I wish other mods had that kind of weapon loadout

>>179770672
we need newbloods. maybe joining with another general will give us that. that or going to hunt people to /v/, but that´s not going to end well

>>179787195
post the mega link to the game in OP, call it a "FREE" game
thats how you get people

>>179781472
when you are against an overwelmingly bigger fleet you can always camp in the retiring line and switch your ships as they get damaged

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I accidentally caused chain reaction too. This one damaged boss even! Also, I've checked later and the combo is 102. Approximately 70 ships blew up simultaneously.

>>179787874
Update: this combo was so big I had to defeat 2 bosses in a row

>>179787874
>70.
Jesus christ.

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>>179788334 >>179787874
Update update: THREE bosses in a row.
Also, this combo on a screen? 100% hand made. Includes Zeus, Crystallium and Helios trio.

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>>179788746
Stupid IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR weapon.

>>179789547
Does it still spawn in fixed location in SCY system though if SCY is enabled?

This onslaught carrier version has WAY better arcs, like all their weapons can shoot forwards!

Then again my normal Onslaught would max out the flux just by the weapons it could fire
Even had shield bypass + max vents.

>>179770672
>Problem is there's just not much to discuss other than how OP certain mod factions are
>What could we discuss other than that?
About how to balance them so the author can get a feedback and implement it?
You know, something like that neutrino translation stuff one or two threads ago?

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>>179793160
>onslaught carrier version
>BETTER arcs

sounds balanced

also pic related

>>179795273
Also comes with free fighters
Because thats how balance works

>>179795815
Which one? The Legion or the Blue Onslaught?

>>179795902
Blue Onslaught
Dnno if the Legion is any good, it's low on OP to start and you have 4 fighter slots to fill

>>179796001

the legion has two large ballistic and five medium composite mounts.

it is very good.

>>179796286
It's extremely vulnerable from the rear, though

>>179796745

protip: don't deploy capital ships solo

Is colonization/outposts confirmed for the next patch?

>>179797354
Nothings 100% but considering .8 has been all about setting up things that prepare for it?

Yeah i'd imagine 0.9.0 would be the patch if any. Just go on forums and ask Alex about it.

>>179745517
Yup, not going over 65.

>>179797354 >>179798114
Alex won't tell anybody his plans just like that. Our best bet is to wait for a blog post.
Besides, think what could be added to game. Politics, outposts, endgame... What else?

>>179788746
>>179787874
The hell did you do?

>>179799541
campaign?

I want to know what the hell the omega that the AI keeps talking about is

>>179799974
The pic with many simultaneous deaths:if you kill ships sufficiently fast while they're at the top of the screen, they explode and new ones burn in, except... Damage from explosion is applied moments AFTER the explosion, enough to affect burning-in, shieldless ships. Which explode and destroy another burning-in ships. Which explode.
The pic with 119 combo is after the first thing happened and I was lucky enough to 1. have the previous combo kick in 3 bosses in a row, 2. kill Crystallium quick enough to have some combo already and 3. have frigate trio, in a miraculous turn of events, overload one another (their special ability, except instead of 1 overloading everything else and still kicking they overloaded one another simultaneously), which allowed me to kill them all while having combo bullet time and since they were bosses, they added much to my combo timer and I could go on a ridiculously long, slowed down killing spree.

>>179800293
Is your SA name JadeStar by any chance?
https://youtu.be/KvoM3Xqkuyk?t=2188

>>179787349
I thought the Russian servers already did that...

>10th page
We should make something flashy to show to /v/ and have some of them trickle here.

More on topic, what's your way out of early game? I've found that salvaging all the wrecks you can eventually nets you enough cannon fodder that you can do bounties somewhat reliably.

>>179805139
Salvaging, Surveys, System Bounties, and the Better Beginning mod.

>>179805139
>>179805438
Oh and going to the tutorial system since it'll always spawn a nice fleet with some frigates, a destroyer and a Condor, too.

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367KB, 1920x1080px

>Disco ball

Holy shit, this astral can basically bulldoze entire battle lines

>>179805632
Well, I'm pretty sure I can't use tutorial with Nex.
>>179805438
>Better Beginnings
unethical