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armchair generals edition
>Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Our pastebin (Don't bother reading this right now, it needs an overhaul)
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm

>Dom4 Inspector
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Noob questions answered that you didn't think to ask
http://web.archive.org/web/20150430021604/http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/core-mp-concepts-that-i-wish-somebody-had-told-me-about/

>Pretender designer
http://bsielski.github.io/pretenders/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo3qbjlixfghvs4/Debug.zip?dl=0

>Debugger guide and download
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=36453&highlight=debug

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Watch some LPs by Sy, Maerlande, or Nuclearmonkee
>Jump into MP feet first; ask for pretender advice in the thread

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
Last thread: >>177773137
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>>178322447

Why would you help out Ragha

played by Malakal

when you have no idea how big they are?
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>>178327863

Umm I helped him actually, not the other way.
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DSDS3 is over. There was a majority vote 3/5 for the game to be ended. Nations were AIing left and right. No clear winner in sight.

The troop count is cut off at the bottom but it's not really relevant. Marv had 10k boars to make the chart really skewered. (need log transformations up this bitch).

All in all it was fun while it lasted. Then everyone randomly went AI and stopped attacking malakal.
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>getting backstabbed by malakal, implying that you were allies with him to begin with
>losing that many troops to a simple thug
>having such a petty war when ragha and xib are huge and I'm maintaining burden of time

You both deserve to die.
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Short summary:
Ulm marv ate N9B9 nief. Ctis stalled for 2 turns. Malakal elfed ctis. But Malakal failed his invasion due to 5k troops in Ctis forts. 5 Nations attacked malakal, but wasn't gaining much traction. Eventually everyone got bored and attacked AI Ur and Kailasa. Then we voted for the game to end.

Lots learned and it was fun diplloing.
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MA Disciples at 9/12, just one more team's worth and we're good to go!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/1291817208500439438/

Come on, it's MA without ermor! (probably, since MA ermor is shit in disciples)
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Vegetable Warriors 6 is looking for players! Mod nations!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/1291817208505688470/
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>>178327863
>dying but still dangerous
>offer a peace deal as the war was expensive for Bogarus from what I know about it
>It fails
>Align with Malakal's axis of evil as that's the only hope of survival
>free my capital from siege
>get blamed for Malakal enabling by people who have no idea what's happening

I understand. I understand completely.

>>178328329
>petty war
>trying to survive a genocide against lizard people is petty
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where does the new updated peliwyr map live?
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>>178330107
Not here, apparently. Not even domg can live.
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>>178333006
We reached postcap my dude.
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>>178334483
I didn't mean the last thread. I meant this one being new and still sinking to page 10
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You ever notice that the thread is dying at the same time people talk about the thread dying?

Maybe talking about it dying is what causes it to die.
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We need a LA disciples game so I can test my brand new meme. Someone make it, maybe?
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>>178335864
People talk about the thread dying only when it's dying. Don't conflate causality, retard
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Alee update!

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2847

v1.00
- Nixies and Nixie Nobles now wield bronze spears (do not rust in water)
- Spriggan Enchanters, Pixie Queens, and Grasshopper Knights autocast Twist Fate before the battle start
- Pixie Queens have a retinue of 2d6 pixies
- Grasshopper Knights have a retinue of 1d6 giant grasshoppers
- Pixies, Pixie Archers, and Pixie Nobles now have Sleep Touch (mrnegates 30 stun damage)
- Giant Grasshopper str 13->15
- Grasshopper Rider and Grasshopper Knight's bite attack is not affected by str
- All flying units (pixies, sylphs, sprites) get #siegebonus -1
- Spriggan Warriors, Spriggan Captains, and Spriggan Defenders wield weakly poisoned spears
- Spriggan Berserkers wield weakly poisoned axes
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>>178336019
>people talk about the thread dying only (at the same time) it's dying.

Evidence for my hypothesis accumulates.
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>>178328329
>getting backstabbed by malakal, implying that you were allies with him to begin with
Never said I was. He knew I had RL issues and was half-assing my turns, collecting artifacts, messing with meme spells and avoiding actual combat in a war that I started 40 turns ago. He knew that I've been psyching myself to actually fight C'tis for 20 turns. He knew that I just wanted to have one more clear fight with him or quit trying. He's one heartless bastard.
>BoT
Lmao who cares, I have like a 100 boots of youth.
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I love ichtyids!
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>>178327652
I'm autistic and like Lizard men aesthics.
How do C'tis hold up in multiplayer games? Any guides for playing them? I'm still pretty shakey on the fundamentals of the game, but I'm trying some EA C'tis in single player.
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>>178327652
how do you play machaka
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>>178341303
C'tis soldiers are garbage, you need to outnumber your opponent 2 or 3 to 1 to win. Their chariots are badass and their death magic is baller.
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>>178341303
EA C'tis is okay but fairly easy to counter, because it's mostly a gimmick. MA C'tis is close to top-tier but it falls off hard later in the game unless you stop relying on poison/skeletons alone to win battles. LA C'tis is top-tier.

There are lots of guides to playing them. You can find a few on dom3mods.
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>>178341303
I hear that C'tis gets stronger as you go through the ages.
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>>178341303
>>178341802
Elite Warriors are actually pretty good at fighting, but C'tis doesn't have good buff paths.

>>178342026
>>178342086
are also right

EA and MA C'tis's problem is fairly weak early, strong mid, and then while their opponents get earthquakes and RoS and fog warriors, C'tis doesn't really get stronger until literally way over in conj 9. They aren't strong enough early to snowball off of their midgame magic very easily. MA C'tis's advantage is basically the fact that their marshmasters aren't StR, so they hit their midgame magic faster and get more mages to use it. The fact that their dom is cancerous also makes them more annoying to rush.

LA C'tis, because of its reanimation, basically has built in scaling in that they can dump their d-gems from the getgo into animated hordes, and the d/f crosspath is way better than the d/n one. They still aren't top tier, but they just do more than the other eras of c'tis do.
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Join VegetableWarriors6!
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Life is life
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Could someone please check the pixies in this nation? With sleep touch they make other troops obsolete.
>>178336250
I'm thinking of increasing their resource cost by 3. Is this enough of a nerf? Any other ideas?
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Any chance I could get a 24 hour extension? Traveling right now, and might be able to do my turn when I stop for the night. But I would prefer to do it when I have at some sleep, especially considering how someone is throne rushing.
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>>178319156
There can be other reasons. For example, Great Enchantress is the most economical way to access Caelian national summons and one astral pearl income on top of that doesn't hurt (an extra Spenta once you can summon them). Of course, Caelum qualifies on awesome early and midgame department and they have extra strong payoff for diversity (complete diversity on good chassis).
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>>178354235
Sometimes it looks like I made half of dom4 meme images. And Bob drawfag made the other half.
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>>178354235
Who does this reference? Ermor?
Where can I find this lore?
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So what scales do you normally take on machaka?
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>>178356735
In-game descriptions, although it should be noted that Ermor lore changed from Dom3 to 4 and it's now clearly mentioned the Cataclysm was unleashed because of self-fulfilling prophecy rather than resurrection of Jesus gone wrong (which wasn't explicitly stated in Dom3 fluff but it sounded thematic and plausible and looking back at Dom3 MA/LA Ermor nation descriptions, with MA being an equivalent of Sceleria, nothing appears to contradict the idea).
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>>178356901
Well, with E6S3N1 and Dom10, your awake monolith is at only 49 design points. You get 40 more effectively for free by taking H3, so discounting temp you're at +2 scales. Magic 3 makes the most sense to get teleport up asap, but that means making tradeoffs elsewhere. Sloth 2 still allows for elephant expansion, and then from there you basically have to choose between T3L3G1 and hope for good events or O3U2G0 to get more money for guaranteeing that you can afford your heretics.
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>>178357125
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>>178356901
Dominion 1 to die as fast as possible and save your time for playing actual good nations.
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Ys, do your turn.
Sincerely MagusAssistance.
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>>178357356
>monodrop Machaka

why
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>>178357837
Machaka has recruitable stealthy heretics
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They make great fodder. You can cast army of gold on pygmies. Their sacreds are pretty good. They have access to magma bolt artillary. Their archers are dirt cheap. Elephants and Lions at +1 morale each.

Just wish they weren't so squishy.
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Whelp posted a turn before bed just to see it was in a position to not stop the throne rush. Good job Niefel, had no hope of stopping you with the lizzards and squids fighting me too. Those turbo giants were some high quality elf killers.

Oh and sorry for being petty and sniping your god R'yleh. Also Lizzards, sorry I never confronted you directly. It was because I didn't think I could win without everything.
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Their sacreds aren't bad.

Going dominion 10 with a strong bless isn't a bad idea.
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Sure am glad I always go for extra thrones. That bishop fish thing could have totally screwed me over if I was going for only just enough.

>>178358145
You did by far the best out of anyone else that I went up against in terms of army stuff.The earthquake thing to clear my skeletons for your thugs to fly in in particular was really well done.

You actually theoretically could have stopped my rush by trapezing onto my sole unforted 2 point throne if the stuff you magiced in could beat my SC and anti-thug mages that I had moved in to counter that AND up if TC also teleported onto the province that my monolith dropped with magic duelists and enough water bottles or elementals to beat the PD. Anyways, neither happened so I had 2 throne points more than was needed. The province that I was bishop-fishing was the throne R'lyeh took off of you, and my reasoning there was that I could set up enough defenders to beat water elemental spam and given that he had a fair few big fish out of the water and not on his forts, I thought he was going to be the least likely to be able to respond with enough to beat throne defense. Anyways, he and TC didn't even try, so it was totally out of your hands regardless.

Uh, what to say. I really dislike the N9E9 build because Nief's mages are SO GOOD and you really want the gold for them. I was really unhappy with my scales for the entire game and would have had way more magery with an Order 3 N9 monobless build. I was gold capped even early on in the game, and could have taken the same early game war without E9 by just straight up having 30% more giants. My revenant spam with magic scales gave me pretty solid research regardless (I was basically tied for best research throughout the game), but I really do think Nief's a nation that can use great scales.
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>>178358723
Can you post graphs please?
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Story for this game -

Early game I had the first war when, reaching borders with Machaka, TC, TNN, C'tis, and R'lyeh, I decided to conquer TNN. Had a decent solo war and won it handily, letting me sit on another cap and have enough territory to be comfortable.

TC went in on Berytos around the time my war with TNN was wrapping up and I was considering jumping in on that when I noticed that Helheim was bigger than me. As the giants, I had to be the biggest, so I called up R'lyeh and C'tis and told them that I was going for elf removal round 2. Since I was as open and unsubtle about all of this as I was with my war with TNN, people were happy to help. I made great gains into Helheim, in part because Skrattis and Gygjas are just AWESOME mages annnnnnd in part because it was 3v1. I punched his early armies in the face, and while I lost a few thugs to his counter-thugs (elves beat skratti. Who knew?) I got a bunch of territory and, more importantly, surrounded or bordered enough thrones to win.

I counted up the throne points and went for a rush with 3 points extra, cutting mage production to make sure all my thrones were forted and pulling resources away from Helheim to get ready to hit C'tis to cover my rush, since his throne was the only forted one.

This was another fairly quick win, but I think I was in a position to grow in strength relative to the rest of the game regardless because I had solid research with my revenant spam, great gem income, full diversity, and a growing blood economy. I stopped making Niefel Giants around turn 12 and also made only, like, 3 jarls the entire game to devote more money to skratti and gygja, and feel like if I had an N9 mono with better scales I would have already been full demon and therefore way stronger by that point in the game.

>>178359439
ofc, I'm assembling them now
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>>178357748
The fuck is Ys even doing? They don't seem to have much of a presence.
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>>178359639
>>178359439
graphs
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>>178359639
>another fairly quick win
????
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>>178359981
It seems if I actually knew what I was doing I could have put up fight.
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>>178360331
You were in a very solid position, yeh. I thought that you were going to teleport your pretender into the sieged throne too, which is why I went through such pains to hide my script and sneak in extra mages.
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Hey C'tis, it would be nice if you don't move into 30 so that we don't run into each other.
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Post memes
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>>178365196
no
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>>178365196
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>>178356901
Assuming EA: This is what I took in my game.

You want order and magic scales as the majority of your mages you will want to be using on frontlines and in fights. You will want to be recruiting your boudas out of every fort, every turn. Your main mage recruit is going to be doing a lot of fighting and they will get picked off, so you will be recruiting a lot of them.

You need money. 1 point in prod means you can make use of Rhino Clan Warriors more reliably. They are decent frontliners for EA. Misfortune is a go with the order for the points.

I went with air and astral for the diversity that Machaka lacks, and the fetish doesn't get punished by having low astral as he is mindless and lifeless. The 4 nature points means he can cast Mother Oak as soon as he wakes with a thistle mace.

It could be improved if you dropped one of the three magic paths. You could also go for an awake, but I think they expand really well with Elephants anyways.

Machakas sacreds are alright, but nothing to really sing about. I wouldn't take a major bless for them if it meant tanking money and magic diversity scales.

I like the minor air bless, as it lets me churn out bows/crossbows that my voices of lion use. He can also cast fog warriors/antimagic and forge winged boots, which are wonderful for stealthy boudas for pd pickoffs.
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>>178366719

Probably should have posted the image. Im sure someone else here thinks this is trash.
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>>178366304
>vanir
>not erf snake
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>>178366927
>>178366719
>Heat at 2
>Growth at 1
>using paths with no native site searching
>imprisoned dom 5

plz not
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>>178367598
I've never seen anyone go ai because of erf snake.
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welp
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>>178370658

Unless its construction2 and you wanted quills I don't see that being important in any way.
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>>178336250
>>178350273
Yeah, giving pixies sleep touch makes them quite strong for a 4g unit. If you want sleep touch, how about a price increase?

Why did you add sleep touch, anyway?

Also, archer pixies should probably be at least a gold more than the standard pixies. They're better in melee as well as getting ranged weapons.

On another note,
> - Grasshopper Knights have a retinue of 1d6 giant grasshoppers
It says 2d6 ingame. Typo, or modding mistake?

> - All flying units (pixies, sylphs, sprites) get #siegebonus -1
This doesn't show up ingame. Is it just hidden, or can you not get negative siegebonus?
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>>178374824
I hope you're trolling. Research timing is vital for winning early game wars. One less owl quill won't cost him the game. Delaying an engagement by just 1 turn might.
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>>178375305
>If you want sleep touch, how about a price increase?
What price would you suggest? I've already been suggested increasing their resource cost by 3 or 4.

>Why did you add sleep touch, anyway?
I've been told that pixies and spriggans are useless compared to other troops and was suggested giving them some damage that does not depend on their strength. That's why I decided to give them stun damage, and poison damage to the spriggans.

>Also, archer pixies should probably be at least a gold more than the standard pixies. They're better in melee as well as getting ranged weapons.
Yes, that's my stupid mistake. I will decrease their attack from 10 to 7 or 8. Should I still increase the price?

>It says 2d6 ingame. Typo, or modding mistake?
Yes, it's a typo in the mod file. Will be 1d6 after I update it.

> - All flying units (pixies, sylphs, sprites) get #siegebonus -1
This is what sum1won did in summod for beast bats, so I assume that it works, but does not show up.

And thanks for the feedback!
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>>178376223

Going by the vanilla sprites they have a sky high def, no prot or hp and a stun attack so you should base on that.

Vanilla sprites have 20 defence btw. And 100 stun MRN 30 range bow. Theyre quite good.
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>>178376223
>What price would you suggest? I've already been suggested increasing their resource cost by 3 or 4.
I'd say 7-8 gold without resource increase, 6-7 with a resource increase.

>I've been told that pixies and spriggans are useless compared to other troops
I figured pixies were meant to be basically flying markata. Bogging down enemy troops in high-defense chaff is not always useful, but not every unit in your nation needs to be universally useful.

For that role I think they'd perform well, though I must admit to not having had the chance to try Alee in a game.

The change to spriggans seems good, though.

>I will decrease their attack from 10 to 7 or 8. Should I still increase the price?
If you're nerfing their attack and increasing the price, no.

My main concerns were 4g 1r shortbows and them being strictly better than the melee pixies.
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>You plan your army movement based on a thus far very successful schema of the way enemy moves their armies, evaluating the player as a relative novice who plays exclusively at zero levels of mindgames
>Check llamaserver
>The enemy is about to stale and you'd be moving into their armies with weaker forces
>Prepare a turn with lack of movement taken into account and be ready to submit this revised turn at the last minute
>Feel obliged to waste time refreshing llamaserver page as the timer turns near
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>>178377553
Thanks! So now that two people said the same thing, I can release the fix. Here you go.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2847

v1.01
- Pixie Archer att 10->7
- Grasshopper Knights have a 1d6 retinue (as intended), not 2d6
- Pixie gcost 4->7
- Pixie, Pixie Archer, and Pixie Noble rcost increased by 3
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>>178377815

Whats the res cost for the non archer pixie?

Because it cant have more than 1-2 if its supposed to be massable. And it is seeing the stats.
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>>178378515
Now it is 4, which will prevent them from being massed too much and leave some room for spriggans and fauns.
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>>178378704

They got two attacks or just one?

Also the twist fate is a nice touch but I keep thinking if luck maybe wouldn't work for some mages. Are pixies associated with luck?
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>>178378515
Vaetti are 4 resources as well, and they're pretty massable.

You just can't instantly produce a full army out of any fort.

>>178378754
Two attacks now, club and sleep touch.
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>>178378795

OK two attacks actually makes them a fairly great troop. Definitely worth using.

Consider adding pixie knights or something like that. Elite pixie troops, size1 fliers with light lances and rainbow armor and luck. OK maybe not lances because then they actually would do decent damage on charge. Maybe 1AN shock damage weapon or something. And good stats akin to sprites.
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So, I kinda want to design a Trade and Taint inspired wargame/boardgame thing, earlgame dominated by trading and normal wars between players with the lategame being a mess of fighting horrors and trying to be the last city standing.

How do I contact the Devs to ask permission to steal their ideas? They never seem to reply to emails. also any anons want to collab or playtest down the line?
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>>178379362
I'd playtest because that sounds fun but I'm not sure how helpful I'd be.
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>>178327652
Post the kate muccici image
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>2(two) MA games recruiting rn
>no LA or EA games in sight
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I will need a 12h or 24h extension for the upcoming new turn for TurtleIsland, FaerieFen and aBoneToPick.
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In memorium:
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Shilling continues! Vegetable Warriors 6 is looking for players! Mod nations!

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/1291817208505688470/
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>>178384798
>wasting slaves on blood fecundity when you could just take Growth 3
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>>178381241
Who are you?
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>>178390712
TurtleIsland Mictlan, FaerieFen Agartha, aBoneToPick Pangea.
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>>178391880
Sure, +24h in both Turtle and Faerie, turn 22.
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>>178386537
Playing without G3 can be good but you'd need to take a NB pretender or you can't even cast fecundity.
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>>178400351

Good changes overall I say.
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>>178386142
Consider not shilling with a broken link.
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>>178405187
link works for me, my handsome lamb chop
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>>178406019
Ah never mind, I see the problem.
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>>178400351

Just gotta wonder how much work that revision took compared to just doing a new map. Not that I'm complaining, it's better than the old version both graphically and functionally
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>>178400351
It's gonna be so awkward to play when I'm so used to 1.0
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>>178391880
>>178396543
And done.

Also, page10.
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Hey, Morignon! I know you're here! Look at this!
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>>178410968
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>>178410968
Nice job, Ys needs more wins.
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>>178410968
Why are you sending yourself ingame messages?
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>>178415152
Because i sent it to everyone.
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Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
>Marignon Waiting for 2h file
Pangaea 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
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>>178416172
My game has had two nations taking 2 days between each turn for the past few weeks.
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>>178416172
Whats with the dog memes lately?
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>player goes AI to "apologize" for staling
>their AI immediately breaks our NAP and attacks me

fuck off
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>>178419125
>NAP
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>>178420902
>Malakal in the middle
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>>178420902
>malakal on the bottom left
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>>178420902
>that burnt umber glare from the cat that knows far too much
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>>178420902
>sum1 at the right
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>>178420902
>malakal in the back organizing a gank
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Dear players of NewGamePlus,

Pangaea has lost over 70 units in their most recent expansion attempts. Most of their provinces have very weak PD. Their capitol is located at province #100 and I am unsure if they have more land than what is shown in this image.

~Anonymous
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>>178424256
>picking on LA Pan instead of the ubiquitous blood nations
SOMEONE'S A DIPLO MONSTER
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>>178424256
Hi, Ulm.

>>178424647
Hi, Pangaea.
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>>178420902
>somebody sat down and spent months of their life to make a painting of a bunch of wops looking back at the viewer

Interesting
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>>178424807
aha! You thought you had me pegged, but I'm actually ____________
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>>178424256
Oh no, muh Satyrs!
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quick bump question
As LA ctis is it better to start researching
by evocation or enchantment?
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How many giants is too many?
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>>178433419
one
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>>178433419
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>>178433419
>>178433626
Given the absurd difference in mage support there, I'm just surprised that Ulm had so many of its mages die.
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>>178432283
Enchantment, 1 gives you animate skeleton and lets your empoisoners assassinate clear heavy cav stacks for you.

C'tis wants higher level evocation spells and can't fireball spam until it gets some conjuration, so it's usually better to hold off until conj 2-3/construction 2 but enchantment 1-5 helps expansion/first war more
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>>178434129
Astral Tempest - apparently in my haste, I somehow reassigned my guy casting mass regen and never reassigned it to someone else.

My mages are ~100 gp, his are ~500,
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>>178435389
I ain't sayin you lost, I's sayin was weird they dead
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I love ichtyids!
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Come on, I'm tired of being the only person to bump the thread every day.
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>>178443698
And I'm tired of being the only person to make a new thread every week. How about we just stop and let it die?
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>>178443698
>>178445046
GOD YES PLEASE RELEASE ME FROM THIS HELL
>>
Looming Hell is in effect. There is no escape from this nightmare.
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Join VegetableWarriors6! Mod and vanilla nations! Want to beat up a clown? Then get in!
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Can someone host a normal LA game
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>>178447864
(You) can!
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>>178446606
maaaybe
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Any games starting or needing players?
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>>178458137
VegetableWarriors6 could use 1-3 more players, if you are up for playing with mod nations.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/1291817208505688470/
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Hey Margarine - doing arithmetic ain't tryna Malakal you. You LITERALLY would have enough throne points to win once you take 18. For whatever reason I need to rub people's noses into it.

Anyways, if people can't actually keep you off the thrones, it doesn't matter anyways. I don't border them. If your neighbors are jobbing to your win I can't really stop them from giving you the game.
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>>178458726
Gimmie a fun mod nation and I might play.
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>>178460972
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2740

You can play a vanilla nation too.
>>
>#foolscouts <value>
>The monster creates the false impression of uniformity in its own army. Enemy scouting reports will perceive the army to only contain one type of troop. The reported troop type is usually the most common troop type present.

What does <value> do here?
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>>178460187
Not over yet, faglord.
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>>178460187
Also, I'm pretty sure I've messaged most everyone about this, but Marignon will have enough throne points to win the game once kicks the no-mage-support Ys off of 60 and takes the indy throne on 18. Which he has an army adjacent to and just scouted. You dumb fucks.
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>>178462305
I'm not saying that it's over, I'm just saying that it will be when all of the people that border Mari's thrones are game throwing or retarded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWyzwo1xg0
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>>178462430
I'd do something, but some trolls crawled up my ass and I am dedicated to their slaughter for a moment.
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>>178462504
Good to know you've found your intellectual equals.
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>>178462552
Says the one living in a sewage-current.
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>>178462607
>sewage-current
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>>178462721
Manure is a great fertilizer, but you don't need to grow stuff on your citizens.
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>>178462783
I'd be sorry that your people aren't nearly as happy, but then I remember that you all deserve it.
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>>178462904
I'm sure you'd know all about deserving it. After all, stars don't just fall at random.
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>>178463076
Yeah, the oarfish that dared oppose our ancestors really deserved it.
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>>178463170
Them, and the rest of the Basalt City, sure. But enough talk, have at you!
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>>178463289
The Basalt Kings were oppressors that were afraid of the power of the Mages of the Deep that now rule Atlantis. Atlantis is better off without them.
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>>178463427
I feel like we're just repeating our past negotiations here. This is still my favorite RP game.
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>>178463427
this is canon, btw

>The mages of the Deep are shambler mages and the predecessors of the Kings of the Deep of later times. They are not nearly as powerful as the Basalt Kings and should one become too powerful, he would probably be killed. The shambler mages use a slightly wider spectrum of magic then the Basalt Kings. The mages of the Deep have the ability to grant water-breathing abilities to a few followers.
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>>178463427
>>178463525
Those shambler mages are shit tier compared to basalt kings once they finally do take over.
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How am I supposed to use blood vortex?

I keep screwing up this spell.
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>>178464397
Cast it with a huge overcast in order to get rid of another, non-B global.
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>>178464397
Like any other gemgen. To maximize its usefulness cast it early and with minimal amount of extra slaves. Your main slave income as a blood nation comes from bloodhunting. Or cast it with a big overcast because slaves are cheaper than gems so you could have it paying for itself on turn 120 or something. Blood nations are always late-game oriented.
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>>178460187
>>178462321
Your arthmeric is bullshit though. Even if I took the thrones I don't have that you mentiones I would still be a point off from ascending.

Besides that I have no intention of going for a cheap throne rush. Before I ascend and reshape this world I mist first purge it of all the assorted filth. That includes toad-people. I will not allow your presense to taint my new world.

>>178462305
Ulm pls I hope you are not being tricked by that devious toad. I do not consider Ulmites to be flith. In my eyes you are almost as good as real humans. Our lifestyles are certainly conparable. I also hope you realize you wouldn't stand a chance against the armies of God. You are having trouble subjugatng AI Machaka, after all.
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>>178464794
Forgot my name.
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>>178465263
I'll never forget you.
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>>178464794
I guess 2+2+2+3=8 in Poland
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>>178465671
RAKED

>>178466193
Assuming all those thrones are lvl 2's, which they aren't.
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>>178466467
We have 2/3 of the level 1 thrones accounted for by people that aren't you and an indy throne with a default pop type. Odds are pretty good that they are.
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>>178464794
>Besides that I have no intention of going for a cheap throne rush. Before I ascend and reshape this world I mist first purge it of all the assorted filth

>I'm not going for a throne rush, I'm just taking all of the thrones I need to win.

Even if you don't, you're the largest player BY FAR and need to be ganged up on to be taken down.
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>>178466467
>vulturing off of someone already at war with two people
>implying

Good skeletons did nothing wrong.
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>>178466654
>Even if you don't, you're the largest player BY FAR and need to be ganged up on to be taken down.

We all know how it works wannabe Malakal. Those who attack the largest player get decimated while the cowardly gank orchestrator waits patiently uw to backstab them once they are weakened.

That's why I'm cutting to the chase and going after you.
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>>178466693
>vulturing off shit provinces with no income

Ok bud
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>>178466549
You can cross check me on this. I hold Thorns and Moon. I border the Inner and Abundance. Thats 1 points short of ascending assuming I want to end this game prematurely.

I don't since I still regret throne rushing turn 36 to end a promising game the last time I did it.
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>>178468440
>it's literally Sy
fug, ok
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>>178468526
It's not.
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>>178468075
>Those who attack the largest player get decimated while the cowardly gank orchestrator waits patiently uw to backstab them once they are weakened.
>
>That's why I'm cutting to the chase and going after you.

I'm actually very down to fight you. I just assumed that whether or not I won our impending clash wouldn't matter and that you'd win regardless.
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>>178464397
It's not a good gemgen. It's good as a global slot hog and as a depopulation tool. Fucks over turmoilfag especially
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>>178468440
>>178468526
>>178468526
I'm not even in that game, but it sounds like Bizarre Abysia. Which wasn't Sy
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>>178468163

Gems maybe. Also land is land.
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>>178463525
>he
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Which Abysia is the least lame one, all things considered?
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>>178483897
LA.
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>>178483897
LA has recruit-everywhere bloodhunters and premium BS-crosspath access so it at least has a strong lategame plan.
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>>178483975
Isn't is pretty much heat Ragha but a lot worse?
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>>178484196
Everything is worse than Ragha, not an argument.
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>>178484196
Ragha doesn't have horror shenanigans

Besides, pretty much anything is worse than unmodded Ragha
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>>178484371

Heat Ragha has excellent sacreds but shit mages, cold Ragha has good mages but shit sacreds and troops. Take your pick.

Past rush phase they fall off real hard.
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>>178485530
>take your pick
>not using spells or enemy dom to lower temperature and recruit your mages while spamming a shitton of griffons
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>>178484326
But not everyone is in the same age doing the same exact thing but worse.
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>>178485882
Ragha can't horrorspam as well. Also pickong Abysia doesn't make you a twink.
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>>178483897
EA Abysia is actually one of the best nations for blitz-size (5 people or less) games.

LA is probably better for reasonably-sized games.
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>>178485734

1. You need gems for that and it costs a lot to maintain a temperature 6 scales different from your national.
2. Almost all your mages need temples, especially those that do the research. Hard to avoid dom spread.

Its not impossible but hard and expensive.
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>>178483897
MA isn't bad being that it is a blood nation in MA
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>>178493513
>cap only blood mages
>blood nation
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>>178494016

Worked for me.
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>>178468440
How about you just calm him down there by letting me have that throne on our border? I hold no thrones at present, and fighting you sounds less fun than vulturing off AI Pan.
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>>178498168
Fuck no. I'm not scared of you or anyone else and if you want my shit you are gonna have to fight for it.
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I will be away for quite a few days without being able to play my turns. Put me as AI or substitute me
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>>178503964

What age/position/build
>>
>>178498168
>fighting you sounds less fun than vulturing off AI Pan.

Quoted as proof of cowardice.
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>>178498168
Why did Pan go AI anyway? Last I checked was pretty big after shitting on Vanarus and Ermor.
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>>178511556
Bitched out when everyone declared war on them, I assume.
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>>178511983
What a pussy.
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>>178511556
He went AI the turn after I attacked him and killed his whole army.
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>>178513082
I don't recognize that angel.
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>>178513991
You should. It's the Dominions logo
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>>178515079
That's an Ophan though: wheels upon wheels, and eyes upon those wheels.

That's just eyed wings.
>>
>>178515614
You're right. For some reason I remember the Ophan as being described as a many eyed thing cloaked in wings, but I was wrong.
>>
>>178508425
EA/next to me/worms
>>
>>178516058
Isn't that a Seraph?
>>
>>178516510
It's a Biblically accurate depiction of a Cherub.

They aren't in Dominions.
>>
I love ichtyids!
>>
>>178520579
I love YOU!
>>
The fuck am I going to do with all these H3s?
>>
>>178521068
Th-thanks. I love you too.
>>
>>178521074

Rot UW I hope.
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>>178503964
I'd rather not have an AI so early in the game. Anyone feel like subbing in?
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>>178527140
Tell me his bless, the age, and mods.
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>>178527508
EA, WH/summod/Better Arena.

I'm in chat/Discord if you're interested.
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>>178530252
You're going to have to explain this one to me.
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>>178531336
Looks like Pangea to me.
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>>178531508
Whats the cyclops about?
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>>178531586
Greek shit.
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>>178531336
Fomoria
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>>178532130
>Fomoria
Pretty clever.
>>
>>178530252
Original Fomorians were two-eyed. That even your cap-only sacreds are cyclops is just a sign of how pervasive the curse was.
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If you are the last person to submit your turn but you don't immediately submit the next turn, I will fucking declare war on you.
>>
>>178532130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc8iu0XFUQc
>>
Is there an alternatives of vine shield for SC as part of doom stack?
>>
>>178534943
What paths you got?
>>
>>178534994
FDA, FED, FDN, AES, BD. No water at all.
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>>178534943

Eye shield
>>
do you like to use blood fecundity on basically every province or only the highest pop ones? Maybe I should be using it on my ~6-8k provinces, especially since I'm needing to damage their pop count with bloodhunt+patrol, since I lack ideal 5k hunt provinces.

Without blood fecundity I have 1 growth in my natural dominion, so it's only netting two more scales, but still...slaves are fairly cheap, especially if fecundity helps offset the pop damage from hunting for them
>>
>>178535939
Shield of gleaming gold might work. So could a dancing shield, which is a misc item instead of an actual shield.
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>>178531336
there was recently a widely reported birth of a cyclopean lamb in India or something, I *think* that's what it's about
>>
>>178536092
Does eyeloss work only when someone hit shield? Or it works when bearer takes hit?
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>>178537235
It has an MR check on all rounds of attacks, same as vine shield and astral shield and all other similar effects
>>
There should be a compilation of all the shields from all the balance mods. That would be fun.
>>
>>178536164
although...only a few of those already have labs, and cash is tight now
>>
What if pretenders could cast ritual spells without a lab?
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>>178543197
Monodrops would be even more ridiculous.
>>
>>178543197
The Great Siddha would take a price cut. So would some flyers.
>>
>>178544138

Are monodrops dominions kino? I love doing them.
>>
>Malakal
More like Malacuck, amirite? Amirite, guys?
>>
Hey earthattack admin can you delay for 168 hours please? I have an emergency I have to disappear for a week.
>>
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>enter a modnation's .tga folder to fix the flag
>has another folder called Sources inside
>Sources is mostly full of Dominions sprites but there are also two pictures of a giant boar from "Princess Mononoke" and one of Hurricane Isabelle's cloud front
The Princess Mononoke pictures were for a national pretender I think, but the other one is baffling. The nation barely has Air paths, much less storm-related units.
>>
>>178545930
More like Malacock in your ass
>>
>>178546025
Maybe he was copying the colour or something? Or maybe it just opened there automatically when he was saving it?
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>>178546196
Look I'm as straight as you can get, and I hate diplo. My son came out as a diplomonster and I told him I didn't want him living under my roof anymore. He moved in with his disciple and he's dead to me. But I have no shame in saying that I visit steam and have blown my throne many times in their tight chat. I even have a couple of beautiful steam buddies who I collude with and they throw games for me me, let me rim their thrones and come all over my scouting reports. This has nothing to do with doing diplo. They are conversations rivals with rivals. The conversation itself is not diplo, it's attached to a rival.
A CONVERSATION IS A PIECE OF MEDIA. A piece of media does not affect my diplo. Do you let someone call you an elf if you get a gnome with glamour? No. It wouldn't mean you were a glamourfaggot.
A conversation is immaterial. A hated rival doing what I want after a conversation will not change my e-honour. No matter how many of them I let know all my plans or how many I beg for their gems. I don't need to be called gay by narrow minded busybodies. How come this concern for policing diplo only happens to straight players.
For sake of fuck, DO YOU REALLY THINK NICKNIGHT WAS IN PRIVATE CONVOS IN DISCORD HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH RIVALS he could afford it but no he was a gay he liked diplo he would never be conversing a rival because he realised they were enemies. Maybe if he would have avoided all gay activity and stayed with rivals he would still be with us today, the dirty faggot God rest his soul
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