/arena/ - Arena FPS General

first for qc best quake

quake is a better game with abilities

quake is a video game

third for shitters crying bitch tears about the F button

if quake were better with abilities how come nobody played it this way until now

check m8 theists

if you need abilities to get kills and you defend them you're a shit tier arena shooter player who needs cod tier killstreaks just to get on the scoreboard.

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This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

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more like moba quake haha

it's going to be f2p
it's going to attract overwatch players
it's going to attract lol players
it's going to be full of underage BRs and russians
it's going to be full of hackers and smurf accounts
it's going to cost you real money if you don't want to grind 1000 hours to get the most broken toons

>>175918000
he looks like some exotic russian

>>175918132
if he was russian he would have better aim

>>175917995
so just don't play QC and play QL? whats the problem here?

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>im a quake oldfag btw
>i think abilities ruin quake
>even though they are on a 40 sec cd and useless if you don't have a brain
>i think id is ruining the game by making it f2p and bringing in all the noobs
>even though it just means more fresh blood for my amusement
>this is just an overwatch clone
>even though overwatch is about teamwork and ultimate usage and quake is about fragging
>the game is laggy and unoptimized and its fucking unplayable mess
>even though its a 5 week beta so far
daily reminder that tell everyone who complains about these things that they should git fucking gud

>>175918290
QL is dead as fuck where I live.

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stop enjoying Quake Champions

Who let the samefag shitposters in?

>>175918321
>Critique is a bad thing

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>>175918359
>QL is dead as fuck

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we need to come up with a new colloquial name for QC to make sure newbs realize that it's not really quake

>moba quake
>overquake
>quakewatch
>edgy overwatch
>quake: toons
>f to win quake
>noobquake

do you have any other suggestions?

the IP count isn't going up but new shitposts keep being made
amazing

>too much going on in le head, can't focus XD

>>175918524
>I need to shit on a new Quake game even tho I can just play my PURE QL in peace
go to bed dad, it's late

>>175918642
>americans waking up
>thread turns to shit

every day

why do they do it?

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>>175918720
>americans waking up at three in the fucking morning

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>>175918642
>every post I dont agree with is a shitpost
fuck off to reddit you double nigger

>>175918321
>3 am
>waking up
yurop confirmed for retarded

>>175918785
>it's not shitposting because it's MY SPECIAL OPINION
Looks like you're the one who belongs there, friendo.
Fuck off, all arguments in this thread have been shitposting.

>every mod you could ever think of was made for quake spawning nearly every popular fps game in existence today
>but here all we needed was an ability on cooldown
why didn't I think of that

I like how all the QL players are getting ass blasted that no one wants to play their game anymore, so they try to ruin the experience for people who like QC.

lmao'ing at your lives.

>>175918720
its midnight on the west coast

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>>175918983
>QL players
it's the UT players

>>175918983
>quake players dont want people playing quake
kill yourself peasant

>>175919056
noobquake isn't really quake

>players actually defending killstreaks in quake
I NEVER WOULD HAVE FUCKING BELIEVED IT

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>>175918983
they are content with Quake franchise being dead as fuck as long as they can feel elitist about it, a truly sad and pathetic state of mind

>>175917942
Because they didn't invent it before now silly

>>175919159
>implying what quake and the genre as a whole needed is fucking newbs that ruin the game for dedicated players

rofl'ing @ ur opinion

i bet you're one of those retarded newbs that never played an afps other than call of duty and now pretend they've been quake players since 1994 LOL

defrag is fun especially when you get a speed faster than the other guy in the server

>>175919245
>>implying what quake and the genre as a whole needed is fucking newbs that ruin the game for dedicated players
how is QL ruined exactly? send me some patch notes man, they added abilities?

you are a fucking retard
>i bet you're one of those retarded newbs that never played an afps other than call of duty and now pretend they've been quake players since 1994 LOL
last call of duty was CoD 2 single player in early 00, try again

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I honestly don't get the hate, with the addition of abilities, every player no matter how good or bad can get some fragz by pressing F. This makes the game more fun for everyone, it's kind of like crit rockets in Team Fortress 2.

The abilities aren't the fucking problem with the game.
The differences in starting/max health/armour, speed and hitboxes are.

>>175919486
I agree that's even worse but abilities have potential to be just as bad if not worse since they'll keep adding more champs in to turn a profit.

>>175919472
>kind of like crit rockets in tf2
as if anyone but the most brain dead pub players likes those.

>>175919472
>every player no matter how good or bad can get some fragz by pressing F
here's your (you), sonny, don't go spending it all in one place now y'hear?

>>175919486
the different stats are balanced by the fact that some abilities are better than others. have bad stats? get great ability and vice versa.

it's fine as is, it worked for overwatch as well.

>daytime in russia and australia
>shitposting goes into maximum overdrive
hmm...

>>175919486
agreed
there's no fucking reason I should be having to shoot some nigger 3 times more just because he chose a different character and not because he has RA and MH

reminder that anarki can get up to 115 helth, plus a full health. that's like 220 hp

if you can stand his awful voice lines there's no reason not to pick him

>>175919690
so just play QL? whats the problem?

>>175919806
>whats the problem?
everyone will flock to this shitty new quake and i don't want to be alone in quake live, which i spend 10 euros on.
it's not fair

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>>175919786
>if you can stand his awful voice lines
I can't and I hate this whole punk theme too, same shit with slash

>>175919786
a. he can get upt to 150
b. mega caps at 200
c. its not gonna matter unless bethesda lets people make servers with no timelimits

>>175919875
people still play quakeworld
QL isnt going anywhere any time soon

>>175919898
slash is cute

>>175919786
>every spawn anarki has some cringelord line queued up
>want to stop hearing him
>make an effort to play better not so I dont die but so I dont have to listen to this fag
god works in mysterious ways.

reminder that if you don't show up to quake 2 this sunday night you are not allowed to complain about arena shooters being dead

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>>175919875
>not getting the exclusive 12$ QL deluxe edition that comes with extra arthritis and alzheimers meds
step up

>>175918321
Ask me how I know you're fucking trash at quake.

>>175920003
>>175919898
duuuuude you shooul just like chiiillll duuuuuudddddeeee woah maaaan
COCAIINIUM HAHA DUUUDEEE!!!!

>>175920072
something about map control

>>175920003
Dear god I hope the introduce a way to mute character voices without muting the announcer.

Even the good characters like ranger get grating real quick.

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>bones voice lines
GO

>>175920312
>I have a large bone for you to examine

>>175920072
ability dependence

>>175920221
>>175920003
just play visor
you can barely understand what hes saying unless youre pyccкий
plus he has more health, uncapped speed, and wwallhack, which is objectively better

>>175920312
THE CRIME ISSS LIFE

>>175920312
SHREHHH
SHREHHH
just his jump sound

>>175920221
>Dear god I hope the introduce a way to mute character voices without muting the announcer.
make sure to spam them using the ingame feedback button. because voice muting the announcer is fucking bullshit. i don't want to listen to the cringe tier monologues.

>>175920221
>Even the good characters like ranger get grating real quick.
agreed. they should cut the frequency of voice lines by like 40-50%

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what music do you listen to while shitting on noobs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0N4twV28Mw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu4UG8uLHZ8

>>175920430
>plus he has more health
and less armor
>uncapped speed
Which you never have room to use and isn't as useful as rocket jumping doing like 2 damage to you
>and wwallhack, which is objectively better
But far less fun.

>>175920430
>wwallhack
hey its me
vvisor

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>tfw dropping some amphetamines and dominating people in QC

>>175920592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STnTiNH7a98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMAQiKUvYBA

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>love visor
>hate his ability

i refuse to play QC until they add the thinking man's game mode, aka ctf.

did they already announce something about that?

>>175920906
>not harvester

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zoomed hmg is severly underrated
zoomed hmg with quad is heavenly

Threadly reminder that pure arena FPS are dead and every nigger whining about QC having characters with different stats and abilities is a hypocrite

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>>175920982
zoom dmg bonus is fucking bullshit and you know it

>>175920312
[rattles externally]

>>175920982
>zoomed hmg
Literally a LG with no knockback that you have to decimate your FOV for

>>175921052
>zoom damage bonus
WHAT THE FUCK

when will the NDA be lifted?

>>175921193
idk but they are giving out beta keys like candy so probably soon

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There's so much hate in here, post webms of anything

What are some shooters with underrated deathmatch?

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>guy in quake(R) discord preaching about how hes a quake vet and quake champions sucks dick and how its not quake

>someone asks him to duel
>he's offered CPM,VQ3,QL,Reflex,Warsow,Toxikk,UT99,UT2k4,Q2,QW, and literally every AFPS to duel in
>he says "duel me in quake champions"

>>175921484
>discord
what happened to irc

>>175921484
>taking anything but cpma

lighting gun unironically takes 0 skill to use and be effective with it
the hitboxes are so mcfuckhuge that even a 5 year old can lock on to people
nerf it now

>>175921574
Try to shoot nyx or galeena, have fun.

>>175921574
play against a decent galena and say that again motherfucker

this game takes for fucking ever to load

>>175921574
so why are you not using it and topfragging instead of complaining like a bitch you are

OH WAIT YOURE TOO BAD EVEN FOR A 0 SKILL WEAPON

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>>175921336
>so much hate
I'm working on some Nyx porn to distract the autists here but I'm a tryhard when it comes to drawing so it will take some time

>>175921853
>not slash, galena or sorlag
but why

>>175921853
Don't worry you have until the weekday drought

>>175921046
>pure arena FPS are dead
this is a meme

all the weapons feel like shit

when you combine it with the inconsistent champion movement

game just feels like ass to play. same problem as quake 4 only its intentional rather than a bug

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>>175921908
because it's the designated QC waifu for normies/general population

>not slash, galena or sorlag
if I do more work for QC I will do them too at some point
>>175921914
it always ends sunday?

>>175922205
10am thursday to 4pm sunday EST

>>175921908
>druggies, necro or scalies

take a guess

>>175921908
Because he has taste.

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Most retarded spawn by far, even got a medal instantly

>players with controllers playing
>players going 1-20
>constant ability popping for instakills
>retarded voice lines
>shit movement unless you want to be killed in one rocket or rail or just 1 second of LG damage
>shit physics for everyone
I'm so glad q3 and Ql are still alive. this shit isn't worth anyone's time that doesn't play overwatch because of the easy abilities.

>>175922413
>that retard level of play

i dont get rangers passive, is a constant 25% dmg reduc with no penalties?

the robot thing only gets it if hes slow walking/standing?

>>175922413
>that Nyx snatching the armor
kek

>>175921998
arena fps are alive in the way polio is still hasn't technically been eradicated

>>175922205
oh shit motherfucker is that you raz

>>175922491
self damage only, meaning you can rj and take like 10 damage
don't know if anyone tried climbing shit with nailguns

>>175922472
>hit tankshitter for 150
>he presses F
>instakills me
>shit players will defend this as skill

>>175922472
>getting killed by people with controllers
You're in the wrong thread kiddo

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>>175922531

>>175922596
where did you even get that from?

>>175922640
If you can't outgun Overwatch players' reliance on abilities then you should probably just uninstall like you implied

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>>175922626
it's okay, you're safe here

we're all displaced planetmans now

>>175922701
I topscore so often it's not an issue but what is an issue is me railing some fag twice and him pressing f to win. it happens often enough that I am bothered by it.
you should probably just kill yourself.

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>>175922413
was this the same sore lag

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>>175922717
*tips decimator*

>>175922760
If anyone that should kill themselves it's you being so butthurt from taking it up the ass from Scalebearer ramming that you have to cry about the soreness here

Git gud you phony

>>175922880
>git fucked you stalker

>>175922880
enjoy your press f to win "arena shooter"

>>175922973
You are literally the only scrub here who can't outaim and outgun controller using Overwatch players

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when all you wanted was q3 but I got overquake
>>175923051
>imploding you weren't the controller user on my team going 5-23
I have no problem with controller players but they're shit. I dont get killed by them but they sit on my team and shit up the scoreboard.

what do you get when you cross quake 4 with league of legends

>>175923081
That's why FFA and duel exist

you get overbotch except there's no timing on items, unlimited ammo and you cant rocket jump

>>175923051
>literally
you have to go back

>>175918524
>quaketoons
lmao

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>>175922973
>>175923051
duel please

>>175923081
>get overquake
something I'll have to do

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all 'm-muh quack is ruined, more like o-overquake haha' fags in a nutshell

>>175923254
QL

id/stary on steam

i'm going to stream you getting creamed on twitch

>>175923254
kekeroni you look like a fucking mongoloid

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Good night /arena/

>>175923309
you can't even win an mge
you're shit
stop posting

>>175923301
i bought reflex on release and i'm actively playing unreal tournament 4 with the other 70 guys. not everyone is a hypocrite

Is there more than one guy shitposting here? I doubt it cuz all posts made emphasis on "press F to win", "overwatch ripoff" and bullshit about ability to even use controllers in qc.

>>175923417
>139 posts
>only 23 IPs

>ut 4 with the other 70 guys

i don't even have a laughingwhores.jpg smug enough for this

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>>175923365
good night

>>175923301
>TB
kill yourself

>>175923417
wait, can i use an xbox controller for qc? i'm new to the genre and i just want to chill on the couch. i only play tdm, so i don't care about playing bad, my team will carry me 50% of the time. the beauty of matchmaking lol

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>/arena/ autists duel
make it happen and record it of course, if you get banned I'll give you new beta codes personally

>>175923521
You know, irony and sarcasm must be more subtle, right?

>>175923301
Weird considering Quake Live for a long time was pretty popular. Then they started charging for it so naturally the community isn't going to "grow" anymore. Few people are going to pay to try out Quake unless they were already invested into it.

Games like Toxxic and Reflex are plagued with poor marketing that ensure the games remain obscure. Obscure multiplayer games with a price tag are pretty sketchy purchases.

While UT4 is a game that entered Alpha way to early and has taken way to long to come out (it's still not out after almost 3 years).

>>175923519
>knows he's right and thus resorts to le kys

purebred niggers on suicide watch
your stupid genre is dead
deal with it

>other people come in and start posting about how shit the game is
>ITS ONE PERSON
how retarded can you be?

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>>175923585
>UT4 is a game that entered Alpha way to early and has taken way to long to come out
if only epic would put ut4 on steam. i've played and paid for less polished early access games on steam, i don't know what's stopping them. the game is already pretty good.

on one hand they want the community to develop half of the content and on the other hand they do absolutely nothing to help the community grow. all hype has gone, a lot of people don't even know you can already play ut4. i didn't find out until a year ago, because there is zero marketing.
also, fuck them for focusing on their god awful third person moba.

i just want some vehicle maps, but at this rate it's never going to happen.

ut4 is wasted potential.

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>>175923519
>TB
>kill yourself

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finally get some competition in tdm
game still too easy though

>>175923948
>4-24
how do these people even live?

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>>175923948
>look mom i stomped some underage third world noobs due to faulty matchmaking

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>>175923874
looks fun, why isn't it getting more attention? Is it in development hell? Need a quick rundown here.

t.UT'99 baby

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>>175923985
You cannot have everyone performing well
That is not how scoreboards work

>>175924050
>cant even keep a 1.0 kd
they're shit bud

>>175923874
I agree entirely. Epic isn't really invested in Unreal Tournament 4 from the looks of it. They've done minimal marketing for the game. I can only recall there being some back when the alpha first started,

Which is a shame because the maps and such that they produce are absolutely wonderful. But at this rate the game really is dead unless they get their shit together and start marketing the game hard. A miracle would have to happen though. If they could capitalize on the "hardcore" FPS community on Twitch, Youtube, etc through Twitch streamer marketing it'd probably work out.

>>175923547
This, please stream it for everyone to watch

>>175924037
Alpha has been going on for 3 years. Prestigious modders from the UT2004 community are involved with the games development. As you can imagine since the game is still in alpha, development is extremely slow. Virtually no marketing for the game so old players aren't interested and potential new players don't know about it. Resulting in a pretty small playerbase.

>>175924079
I'm getting 1st place with more deaths than kills and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

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>>175924037
>slow progress, because epic put all resources in developing their engine and paragon
>no marketing, because 'it's too early'
>half the community wants 2k4, the other half ut99, so everything from movement to the weapons is hated on because it's different

that's it. personally i love the game.
it's very playable, if you don't care about missing textures and occasional balance changes

>>175924079
If this /arena/ guy didn't go 3:1, he would be exiled
If his teammates didn't go 2:1, he would bitch at them for carrying dead weight and claim the game is dead
If blue team is getting good scores, it means the part of red team would have shitty scores
How does math work??????

>>175924084
>>175924156
I like how you guys are blaming everything on marketing when the game itself isn't even close to being finished and looks like a really bad duct taped game with unity assets except for that one map that had 1000 hours of MS paint poured into it. That's basically UT4 to me, that first map and the ugly as sin sniper rifle. It's a dead game, and I'm not even talking about the player base.

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>>175924156
>>175924203
ty, it's sad to hear as I played much more UT than Q3 back in the day, is there any hope?

I would love to see the old Quake vs UT autism back again

>>175924316
>MS paint

Well anon, that's what happens when you run a game on your CRT monitor at 800x600 on "Very Low" settings..

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>>175924189
>tfw you're okay with shitty graphics and animations in old games
>but hate it more than my life if it's in modern games
I just can't help it

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>>175924316
>the game itself isn't even close to being finished
what exactly are you missing other than textures and some polish on the menu?

>>175924084
The arena genre is dead. Get over it.

Even if you market the game, people aren't gonna play it because "it's too hard".

The want instant gratification, they want classes, they want unlocks, they want cosmetic items and skins...

They don't want to practice in order to be good.

That's today's market situation. Look at Starcraft 2 for example. It's an amazing game and it was well marketed... but it's pretty much dead, because it was way too hard to learn and be good at.

Kids nowadays are fed with gay shit. They think being homosexual is cool and feminism is a good thing. They don't like to be competitive anymore. They don't have enough testosterone to want to be the best at something and crush others.

Sad thing.

>pick scalebearer
>constantly getting 3ks while waddling around like an autist
wow yeah this sure is hard guys.

Quake Champions sucks so bad.

I do understand how attractive the game can be to casual players (like most of the people here). It's extremely easy to get kills with no prior experience, and you can use the special champions abilities to get kills/escape without particular effort.

Wanna know HOW BAD it really is?

I actually plugged my Xbox360 controller to test how casual the game is, and guess what...

I was at the TOP of the scoreboard!!

I'll repeat it in case you missed it:

I FUCKING ENDED UP ON THE TOP OF THE TABLE WHEN I WAS PLAYING THE GAME WITH A FUCKING CONSOLE CONTROLLER.

Being able to achieve that shit shows how fucking casual they made this game. They are ruining the image of the franchise.

It's like using the name The Beatles to make a comeback... and play shit songs like Justin Bieber. It's gonna be popular to the average low iq masses, but it's definitely gonna ruin the image of the brand.

R.i.p the name Quake.

I can't wait for the NDA to be lifted, so I can post the video of me playing with a controller on Youtube... it's gonna go viral for sure.

Enjoy your game, casual cunts. I hope you spend a lot of money on useless cosmetic items and skins, so the devs can laugh when sipping champagne on their yacht in Monte-Carlo.

>>175924541
ever heard of placeholders

>>175924638
>>175924718

god not this nigger again
get the fuck out

>>175924638
You mean, overlooking how Battlegrounds is one of the most popular FPS games that blew up out of no where? That game where you only win if you can outlive 100+ other players, any and all of whom that can kill you in a handful of shots, no respawns? I don't think its the difficulty that is the issue here.

Viral marketing on major game platforms like Twitch and YouTube can make virtually any game incredibly popular if they happen to get lucky enough. Battlegrounds, Five Nights at Freddy's, Rainbow Six Siege, etc.

>>175924769
>thinking that everyone you disagree with is one person
kek I was posting in earlier but now it's someone else. now I just post about the health disparity causing issues.

>>175924856
battlegrounds will die sooner or later once you realise who the developer and publisher is

>>175924931
lol nah

Look no further than H1Z1 to prove yourself wrong.

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HOLY SHIT THIS GAME IS FUCKING AWESOME
WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME, /arena/?
WHY?
>HURR DURR IT'S QUAKEWATCH
>EKS DEE QUAKE MEETS MOBAS
FUCKING RETARDS, I NEVER HAD SO MUCH FUN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE

>>175924859
fucker posts with the same unmistakable snub and enlightened fedora 'hardcore fps' elitism, uses leddit spacing like he just got his first pc a week ago
claims to be a pro, yet never posts any proof, not even censored screenshots, not to mention webms

he's just an overbab who heard about QC, read about the franchise on the wiki and claimst to be a diehard vet while posting literally fucking nothing to support his non-arguments, only resorting to insults while ignoring any reason you throw at him

>>175925007
click on the publisher educate yourself

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>>175924638
>>175924718
is this copy pasta or do we have a legit mentally ill anon here in /arena/?

>>175925165
what a sad life you must lead

>>175925193
>look mom I'm projecting

>>175925165
LALALA OVERQUAKE LALALA
CAN'T HEAR YOU CASUAL HAHA LOL
ABILITIES AND CHARACTERS GAME RUINED ROFL
H-HAHAHA

quake champions? more like wait champions :P

because the loading times and queue times are atrocious haha

>>175925185
Yeah, I'm fully aware. Daybreak, formally Sony Online Entertainment, has a much longer history of shitty, unsuccessful games than Bluehole does.

So my original point still stands. Not to mention H1Z1 is a steamy pile of shit, has been since 2015, and yet it's still the third/fourth most played game on Steam.

One would've thought that if people acted like you thought they would, H1Z1 wouldn't be nearly so popular.

>>175925339
The only time qc loaded long was first time I started the game. Nothing later

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I have been playing for a good bit since the beta was opened again. it feels like overwatch if you add a payload it would be overwatch arena. list of my dislikes -abilities (fixable with non ability game modes) -"heros" (I don't mind having different characters but them having different stats is where I start taking issue the point the quake formula is everyone on the same playing field no one has a advantage for picking something "better") -hand holding (the difference between a good quake player and a noob is the time spent learning the game it's called a skill ceiling its what adds replayability to the game and helps foster a fan base. and yes even overwatch has a skill ceiling, but having my hand held for no reason other than it attracts new players that's boring after a week of playing. easy fix make it an option if you want it keep it on if you don't turn it off) -the announcer (yes I know it's petty but the same issue was in doom and btw it sounds like vega with some bass try to take inspiration from previous arena shooters and use that to gage it)

those were my feelings on the game I love the stuff you can do to your "hero" keeps the interest but other than that I feel that the game will fall short for the dislikes I listed kinda like the doom multiplayer I also have the feeling the devs won't give a shit anyways because companies have a way of shitting on their fan base by not caring but one can only hope. I love quake please don't make it into a MOBA PLEASE.

>>175924856
You don't understand the difference between a game that is difficult for random reasons, and one that is difficult for skill reasons.

In Battlegrounds, where you land has an impact... your luck to find a gun has an impact... so many things that are out of your power, are making the game difficult.

How can you deal with someone sniping you from a bush far away? You basically hide and go slow, which is a matter of patience, not skill.

You don't have to be good at that game to succeed, so please, don't use it as an example.

Viral Twitch marketing made R6 Siege popular game? Lmfao. Ubisoft, is literally the company using the most marketing (even more than Activision and EA). It worked because they k ow what they are doing... AND because the game is casual enouh to be attractive to the general masses.

>>175925441
>it feels like overwatch

stopped reading there

>>175925441
forum or reddit?

>>175925564
the latter

>sorlag has a human voice
g-guys?

>>175925458
>R6 Siege
It's still better than csgo tho

>>175925458
While you're not wrong in your general assessment of the game's beginning. That isn't the real appeal of the game. The appeal of the game is that everyone has a high lethality and individual skill is all that matters. Kind of like Quake.

Certainly the game is slower due to a combination of slower movement speed and the strong advantage one has in cover due to the third-person view. But to say people aren't interested in difficulty (which was the original point, not "skill difficulty" vs. "patience difficulty") is pretty silly.

R6 marketing has been nothing particularly special. The game markets itself in the same way a lot of popular games do, word of mouth.

At any rate, your post was cancer. I now have cancer.

i'm going to advertise this general on /v/ and /b/ so it doesn't die

>>175925584
oh God I can imagine how it's full of """quake vets""" and their """expert opinions"""

>>175925665
>high lethality

friendly reminder that a low TTK makes games less skill based and more about spray and pray.

>can't deathmatch with friends
>can't duel with friends

VIDEO GAMES ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS. YOU CAN GET BOOSTED AND SHIT WOOOW ITS UNFAIR ESPORTS DUDE
seriously

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>>175925621
women are not human m8

This board is full of fucking casuals that literally never played a real arena shooter in their life. Yet, they're defending this Overwatch/Team Fortress 2 clone trying to appeal to the masses in lrder to sell cosmetic items and skins.

I'd honestly beat the living shit out every single bitch saying that Quake Champions is remotely similar to the old Quake games.

I don't give a shit if you have no reflexes to be good at arena shooters so you play cod, overwatch or quake champions... But at least, have the decency to show respect to Quake and understand that what you're playing is just another casual game.

Stupid cunts.

>>175925797
giggled

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>>175925674
>so it doesn't die
>27 IPs
>almost 200 posts
look like we have autism and unemployment on our side!

>>175925621
why is that surprising? sorlag had chatlines like everyone else in q3a, including ones about what people taste like

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>>175925886
>autism and unemployment
reporting in

>>175925814
I hope

for your

sake you

are only

pretending.

>>175925771
>TTK makes games less skill based

So, Quake then? If I recall correctly, in Q3 a direct hit with the RL was 200 damage.

And then there's Quad Damage...

I think you might be in the wrong thread buckaroo. The Division seems more up your alley since everything and everyone is a literal bullet sponge.

>>175925665
Comparing Battlegrounds to Quake...


WHAT

THE

FUCK

????

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>>175925979

compared to

other mainstream shooters

like Battlefield

and COD

TTK in Quake

is long/ high

division is just extreme

regards.

>>175925886
>27 ips
How do you know?

>>175925814
>imploding I dont still have the quakecon stickers on my machine
stupid cuck

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>>175926107

>>175926070
The point wasn't a comparison. It was about how a large quantity of people could be legitimately interested in arena shooters despite them being "difficulty" (which was the main counter-argument). Because despite said argument, people like games like Battlegrounds which is exceptionally punishing. Arguably more so than arena shooters.

>>175926076
>division is just extreme
>mentions COD

?????

also hi Ubuntu

>>175925814
>>175925458
>>175924856
>>175925979

samefag

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>>175926271
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>175926458
nigga you are not fooling anyone, your style is like a beacon of autism

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wtf
i can say that you can win TDM with 7 frags.
they just all left

>>175926458
quoted you by accident, my bad

>>175925979
>>175925814
>>175925665
>>175925458
>>175924718
>>175924638

this is what i had mind

>>175926641
nah he's actually legit, it was my fuckup

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>>175925979
quake is about map control (which takes skill), not frags.

also, quake has a relatively high TTK compared to more popular shooters.

if you have a low TTK, you get oneshot by random projectiles or bullets. this gives you now time to evade, removing an entire layer of skill. movement is a big part of arena fps and so is dodging. instant kills make dodging impossible.

you mention the rocket launcher as having a low TTK, but the rocket launcher is not an instagib rifle, it has a (compared to shitscan) slow moving projectile, which can be evaded by a skilled player. the travel time is part of the TTK.

let's say you have 100 hp in a game. there's a rifle that deals 100 damage and one that deals 1 damage. with the first rifle you have to land 1 shot to kill (very low TTK). with the second rifle you have to land one hundred shots to kill (very high TTK). which kill takes more skill to execute with an accuracy of 40%? which rifle gives the opponent a higher chance to dodge with superior movement skills? the one with the low TTK or the one with the high TTK.

face it, low TTK makes the game less skill based. instagib is literally the casual mode of arena fps.

you do play these games, right?

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>>175926586
..........

dont

forget

low

testosterone

you cuck


.

>>175926247
You still don't see the difference between the two genres...

The original Quake required good reflexes and skill. Nothing else. The only thing affecting the difficulty of the game was the speed of your reflexes and hand/eye coordination.

The difficulty in Battlegrounds, on the other hand, is defined by so many different factors. You don't even need to have good reflexes... You can just camp in a bush and kill people running in an open field. So many factors come into play. And, by the way, the game is not difficult at all. You can see plenty of youtubers playing it for the first time and win.

Strong comparison.

At least, tell your kids to stay in school, and not drop out, like you.

>>175926673
lemme guess, were they all level 1s, also
>this horrible AA on icons
id please

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>>175926175

what DPI + sens do you guys use? I have 0.38 sens and 600 DPI atm since my lighting gun aim is awful with anything higher

>>175926797
whatever feels comfortable
i stopped giving a shit about sens autism years ago

>>175926247
stop responding to him

>>175926586
Stay mad faggot.

Keep playing cod, overwatch and quake champions.

Keep buying DLCs and cosmetic items and skins.

Stay bad, little bitch.

I am glad I had the chance to play the real competitive games when they came out.

Too bad for you and your 2005 birth year... You've missed the good years of competitive gaming.

>>175927090
>You've missed the good years of competitive gaming
esports is bigger than ever

>still just namecalling, boasting and no arguments or proof

that aside I was playing quake and dn3d before you were even conceived, you underage nigger
go back to plebbit/9fag/fb/youtube comments or wherever your disgusting writing style is deemed acceptable

>>175927126
Yeah, it's bigger than ever because of social media and marketing.

You didn't have Twitch, Youtube or Facebook back in the days, to advertise shit games and create a hype to sell more cosmetic items.

It was all word to mouth, and it worked because the games were good and challenging.

And just lol at CSGO being competitive. Or even Dota 2. You obviously missed the original the games, because you don't seem to understand how they are way more casual than before.

Don't argue if you have no clue about the subject.

>>175926767
1 3 6 1

>>175927389
understandable that they quit then

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>>175926783

>>175927484
>8:38 PM

fuckin austrians i sware

our guy was given the green light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxgs7yFFRHI

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>/arena/

>>175927364
And just lol at point and click Quake being competitive. You obviously missed the original games, because you don't seem to understand how they are more casual than before.

How many of you enjoy Overwatch?

>>175927638
Stay mad faggot.

Oh look, a new cod dlc came out... better buy it now!

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>>175927536
>new RJN vid
oh baby. Is it a review/ preview hidden behind a tutorial? I hope so

and just lol at my le epic 9geg comment haha good sir upboat me *tpis bedora*

>>175927536
>our guy
The guy is not our fucking guy. He complains about games for no reason. His video on air control is completely based around the fact that he's a person who plays CA all the time and thinks no self-damage on rockets combo-ed with air control is bad.

He also hates on Quake 4 without really knowing the game. I imagine he's secretly harboring resentment because crouch sliding has the same issues with rocket jumps in CA as CPMA does.

Only literal children watch this shit.

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>>175928007
Forgot pic. For some context this is after having made a complete dismissal of Q4 without any reason in the video.

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another close game yay
that galena gave me a real run for my money

>>175928095
nice blog
where can i like and subscribe

>>175928095
>close game
>20 frag difference
>only two people on the other team aren't completely worthless
>everyone on your team has kdr above 1.0

>>175928234
He's a guy who thinks TDM is DM except 5 players aren't opposed you. So it's close in the sense that he had to struggle to top frag.

This is what happens when you remove elements of teamplay from a game.

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>>175928007
>>175928080
this is his gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kysLIZA07ns

can you prove you are better? probably not

thats why he is our guy and you are just some bitter autist. sorry.

>>175928524
heh CLERLY ur wrong and shit and low iq because u noskil and im grate................................also lol at u noooobbb..................

>the arena fps genre is dead
how so? oerwatch has over 30 million players.

>>175928524
I've watched 17 seconds.
It's incredibly mediocre but I agree that I certainly can't prove myself better because I never record what I play.
So you're absolutely right about that.
>that is why he's our guy
Because he's mediocre? I can get behind that idea.

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>>175929216
>he's mediocre
> I certainly can't prove myself better

Does Clutch's advanced shielding apply to crouching as well?

>>175922837
>shooting the ground
>vomiting everywhere before he dies
too funny

>>175929301
Prove yourself worse than him. Go ahead.

>>175923301
He might be right, though those are all basically a bit more polished Q3As not entirely new developed AAA games such as Q3A was one when it was released in 1999

>>175923301
It's not our fault we're not many people.
>reflex
>100 or less
Dumb. Concurrent playerbase during a day for reflex is higher than 100. What's even the point in saying "concurrent players" without defining a time period.

I agree that people don't give interesting games a shot. Wickland was really good. I didn't enjoy the general art style or the weapon design (as in the aesthetics) but it was a very interesting game. Died extremely quickly and never really had a big playerbase to begin with. But the 'pure' arenafps games in general do well considering how little marketing is behind them. When Quake Live was released it was pretty damn popular, despite having the stigma browser games had back then. Pure FPS isn't dead.
>loadouts haven't been on the servers
The people who complained about that probably have the perception that there's a slippery slope or they simply don't understand the game.
TB is definitively not going to understand this game or the issues people have with it though. He's not an arenafps person, he has familiarity with the genre he just doesn't really understand the games.

I suspect he's going to take the approach the shills in this thread takes and say that it's different and not bad because that's going to be popular with his audience. I'm ok with abandoning Quake but it feels like a waste because this is just a throwaway project for a major IP.

>>175930657
>Concurrent playerbase during a day for reflex is higher than 100
hasn't gotten over 100 in a while
http://steamcharts.com/app/328070#7d

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>>175930657
sorry to break it to you
regardless of it breaking 100 it would still be a fucking pathetic amount

>>175930818
You're talking about peak players. Concurrent players over X time period is how many unique players the game has visiting during that time.
Yes if he said peak he'd be correct.

I don't play QL much anymore so I can't say if he's right in terms of peak with QL but it sounds odd that they wouldn't break 100.
>>175930917
See above.

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>>175929216
RJN
>is 35yo, played Q half of his life
>good at the game with proofs
>makes helpful videos for newbies

you
>random fag on 4chin
>implies he is skilled but won't prove it
>negative, butthurt, elitist
thats why he is our guy and you are some hateful random little man, get it now?

>>175930943
do you not know what the word concurrent means?

>>175923301
b-b-b-but I unironically still play QL and Reflex, even some CPMA pugs when enough people are on
:^(

>>175930657
>higher than 100
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>175927705
lol i dont play your kiddie shooters. reply some more your anger is delicious

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>>175930943
Hmmmm.
I can understand hyperbole but he's covering a range where it's sortof factual. There's certainly games among those listed which it holds true for.
>>175931009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_user
This is where it comes from and it's what people refer to all the time when they're serious about the stats. TB has a lawyer background and he's been in games forever now he shouldn't be making these mistakes.

If he meant peak (which by the way is more specific because concurrent users doesn't define what evaluation function you have for the time period, it could be concurrent users at the lowest point for instance, the valley) he's right about all those games except QL.
>>175931058
Yeah I know, it's not good but it's not really dead.

>>175931146
>which by the way is more specific because concurrent users
Sorry I'm getting tired. If we ignore the idea of the commonly established terminology of concurrent users, then it's less specific.

>>175931146
>in computer science
holy shit you're fucking retarded, google "concurrent definition" you ESL monkey

>>175931257
>at the same time
Ok so which point of the conccurency graph I just pointed would he be referring to?
Because that's the fucking issue with saying such vauge things. The interpretation of what's the "conccurent playerbase" in that graph ranges from 943 to 202.

If you mean peak say fucking peak. It's not even wordy.

>>175927659
I just got out of a game of overwatch. I honestly cannot believe they made Mercy invulnerable during her ult. Anyways, played two games, got most damage on our team, lost them all, quit, back to QL.

>>175931350
learn english you stupid fuck, the peak is the max concurrent users online that day. that's why i linked to the steam charts.

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>>175930997
>RJN
>good at the game
http://qlstats.net/player/530#overall

>>175917741
Got some Quake Champions Beta Keys for participating in it. For those interested here they are:

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>>175919013
>ut
>players

?

>>175931390
>max concurrent users online that day
Exactly.
Max concurrent users. If you measure only along the Y axis of these graphs that's the case.
Concurrency always happens at some timescale. When you say max you've added another dimension to this and evaluated the concurrent users over a time period and call your result the maximum.

Just saying concurrent users means what I linked to on wikipedia.

Seriously anon. Do you have any compelling argument for why we shouldn't call 24 hour (or whatever timeframe you want) peak the 24 hour peak instead of "concurrent users" (which doesn't define the timeperiod, evaluation method or even if you're measuring the aggregate or a timesliced version of the playerbase).
And that's ignoring the fact that there's a well established definition which contradicts the idea that it would be a 24 hour peak.

If you're so dumb you can't even understand that you meant a peak when it's on the very site that you linked to you're probably just retarded.

>>175920982
FORTY EIGHT FUCKING DAMAGE A SHOT

>>175930997
See
>>175929864
I'm sick of people making shitty arguments. Those seconds were just him hitting some basic rails and doing some very basic rocketjumps.

And it's all CA. The dumbest mode in the fucking game. I'm surprised his first video on QC was on controlling armor. I guess he's forced to do that since there's no mode for dumb people in QC yet.

>>175931362
This.

Game is a mix of Overwatch and Team Fortress 2.

It's a shame that they are using the Quake trademark for that casual shitfest.

Uninstalled the beta, because it's not even worth the few gigabytes of used space on my hard drive.

>>175931708
what you linked to on wiki was a definition from computer science, concurrent means the same fucking time. that's the argument, the definition of the word "concurrent". reflex never has more than 100 concurrent players online, or to say it in a way you might understand, it never has more than 100 players on at the same time during the day. that's the argument that TB puts forward. learn english

>>175925165
Suck my balls bro

>le overquake meme

when will it die

>>175931505
>Best Rank: 24 of 3289 (ca, top 0.7%)
>bad

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>>175931913
Man. I really need to understand that there are those who are less fortunate.
Look at this picture. It's from steamcharts. It has the words "peak" and "players" above a number in what's called a table. A table groups information by type and gives you a faster way to express a number of things. But it's not that important that we focus on the chart.
You see how it says a number. The peak implies that

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Next beta better have some form of matchmaking.

>>175932091
>The peak implies that
Fucking browser posted before I was done.
The peak implies that for the time measured there were never more players around than the number that's stated there.
This is what you're describing.
What I'm arguing is that concurrent players/users is not the same thing as peak players/users.
I'm not saying that Reflex doesn't have less than 100 peak players right now.

I'm sorry I can't explain this better if you still don't understand.

>all this shitposting

Brings a tear to my eye to see so many people talking about quake. Love you /arena/

>>175931505
>literally hasn't even played duel
The fuck
>doesn't even play CTF
But I thought he said he really liked CTF?
>only plays CA
>still doesn't have better clips than those in the video

How far back does this thing measure?
>joined 2015
You sure this is the right account?

>>175932114
come back when you've won a duel with a lead that big. tdm is for scrubs and one of your opponents had 200 ping

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>>175931505
Does this site only track a few weapons?
There's no way he never damaged someone with the RL. Not even by mistake?

>>175932337
How can you win a duel with that big of a lead when it's literally 6 kills to win the entire thing? Any yes I've done 6-0 on duels multiple times but duels are fucking ass in QC so I don't play it anymore.

>>175932337
>come back when you've won a duel with a lead that big.
But you can at most lead with 6 frags anon.
You win after that.

>>175932367
>How can you win a duel with that big of a lead
by playing a game that isn't targeted at newbs

>>175932001
>ca
the least competitive form of quake, shit CS:S is more competitive
>>175932235
it's tied to his steam account
>>175932357
click on RL above that graph, it defaults to only showing thoes weapons

I know we're all having fun shitposting but does anyone else who has a lot of duel expereince, how do you feel about the new duel?

I've played about 10 of em and I'm not sure how I feel yet. The champs never felt like that much of a factor (against good people anyway), but getting stacks felt very weird as nyx/slash/anarki just because you don't get as much health as you think you should when you're running mega/ra.

I don't know how I feel about it, I'm trying to be open to it but I don't know it just doesn't feel right.

>>175932548
>click on RL above that graph
Ah, thanks.

>>175932553
>it just doesn't feel right.
Because it isn't right. There may be a lot of shitposting but the general consensus about duel in QC is that it is just pure shit.

>>175932553
the 1v1 mode in fr*ggin overwatch was more fun and fairer than this shit

>>175932669
>>175932553
>different opinions are now considered 'shitposting'
go back to readit if you want a circlejerk hugbox

qc is garbage

>>175932669
I think we need more maps to duel on. dm6 has always been a great duel mode but the person out of control has always had to play extremely slowly and cautiously, mostly because the dude in control has such vast sightlines with the rail.

I'm willing to keep an open mind, but I'm not loving it just yet. I am super fucking excited for ctf though with the champs I think that will work fantastic.

>>175932553
a lot of good people in the quake and reflex discords have been shitting on it, it's fucked

>>175932553
>but does anyone else who has a lot of duel expereince, how do you feel about the new duel?
I don't have a lot by measure of the most competitive duelers of course but I have a few hundred games.
I think what the game mode lacks is the situational awareness you were able to have in QL or any other Quake derivative. The map size changes have made the rail your primary weapon (until you're close enough for LG anyway).
I don't think the abilities work well for this gamemode at all. They're not balanced for this. They're either very good utility (any movement passive is great) or they're useless (slash active for instance).

I don't think Duel will be improved. There's so many changes needed.

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>>175932972
no it's not fucked. it's aimed at newbs and casuals. you know, the majority of video game players. the people that actually bring in the money. it will revive the genre, while alienating 40 year old elitist fucktard daddies. this is great! video games are for people half your age dad. it's time to take them back.

pic related, it's the average quaker

>verified game files
>loading times are 5 times longer now

don't do it lads

Quake Champions is probably the worst game I've played in the last decade.

It really feels like Overwatch and the shooting sensation reminds me of the game Evolve, if anyone even remembers that flop.

The devs are literally using the name Quake because it sounds familiar and might attract some people.

It's more of a kind of slow MOBA FPS. You have better ones in South Korea that are f2p too. I'll just pass...

There's no reason to ditch Overwatch (which I paid 60 bucks for) for a bad free to play copy-cat trying to use the reputation of the Quake franchise in order to attract people.

I'll give it 1/10, simply because the gore and graphics are o.k... otherwise it's a straight 0/10.

>>175933162
huh, weird. try verifying the files again, because it made my loading times disappear almost entirely. from 35 seconds to like 5. and i'm still using an hdd, not an ssd.

>>175932972
>>175933065

It's weird only having 3 lives I don't like it. I would however like to see a more pure hoony mode, as in you pick spawn and your opponent counter picks spawn, then they could pick a champ and then you counter pick that champ. Then you just need to frag them once for a point. Hoony mode was always fun and I think that would work better than the 3 life thing.

>>175933065
I agree rail feels far too strong in duel right now, but that might just be because it's dm6. Rail has always dominated dm6. I disagree with the abilities, I've actually found those to be very interesting in duel. And slash's ability is very good, being able to lock a door behind you and making it impassable is very strong in duel. Altho slash should get her 25hp back.

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>>175933213
literally Brink 2 lmao

Quake's name has been ruined for ever with QC

kind of like what UT3 did to the UT franchise and it isn't even out yet

heh............... moba fps.............. shit gam........ mor like quakewatch lmao.............cashgrab ROFL..........crap cuz i sed so del with itt nobbb.....................

Is it me or do the guys with 50+ shields just seem to strong.

A fragile hero vs a tank hero with the same gun, the tank wins 5 out of the 5 hands down. his health pool is just so much more larger. Am I playing the game wrong or is there some way to play the sanic guys i'm missing.

all i really need to do is get a tank, pick up an arc weapon, and go to town.

>>175933901
the fast dudes have the option to turn tail and run, restack faster than the slow dudes. Plus as fast dudes you can fly around and hit rails on the slow guys. Those shots are much easier for you than them.

>THE SHOCKER
>THE ROCK
>THE SHOCKER
>THE ROCK
>THE SHOCKER
>THE ROCK
>THE SHOCKER
>THE ROCK
>THE SHOCKER
>THE ROCK

Dear god I fucking love the new announcer. He just sounds so omnipotent.

Plus he annunciates certain things in such an odd inflection its amazing.

>ballet
>choo choo
>venomous
>excellent

>>175934181
NOOOOO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP LIKING NEW THINGS OLD WAS BEST DONT CHANGE ANYTHING JUST MAKE QUAKE3 AGAIN SO IT CAN BE DEAD ON ARRIVAL AGAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I SWARE CASUAL OVERBABBIES RUINING MUH QUACK

>>175934181
it's over, the bethesda shills finally found this general. time to go back to irc folks. i repeat: it's over.

>>175934296
>>175934343

Impressive

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if you see this image while scrolling through the general
you have been visited by the Based HUH of Fat Stacks
Perfect Mega and Red timings will be coming your way, but only if you reply "Thank you Based HUH" to this post

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aren't arena shooters about being completely equal at the beginning of the match, getting an advantage through skilled movement to pick up weapons and armor, controlling item spawns and then annihilating your opponents with your superior gear and position? who thought stats and abilities were a good idea? might as well go all the way and turn it into a real class based shooter. remove weapon spawns and give every toon a different starting weapon. why have healthpacks when you could have a character with a self-heal ability? or a healer, for tdm.

>>175934757
>HUH

>>175934775
because stats and abilities only count as upsides

retard

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>>175934757
>not MAKE QUAKE GREAT AGAIN

weak

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>>175934853
>thumbnail
I aint clicking that shit nigga

>>175934296
No one dislikes new things. The thing that we hate is this...

Developers that make changes with one goal in mind:

TO MAKE MORE MONEY.

You're so naive to think that the devs just want to bring something new to the game to make it better.

Don't you find it strange that they are LITERALLY using the exact same economical model as other currently successful games. They just want more and more casual low iq cunts, like you, to purchase shitty cosmetic items and skin boxes.

So they give the game free, give classes to make your small homosexual penis go up, and they make the game as casual as it can humanly be.

Why do that? To bring some change to an old franchise, maybe?

Nope.

They just want to attract brainless little cunts that have no skill for hard games... and once they start playing, they milk them out their/their mom's hard earned cash.

Get a job as a marketing consultant in the industry, and you'll understand everything.

Peace.

Casual little kid.

What's all the shitposting?

>>175935443
bethesda handed out a shit ton of beta keys, so there are a lot of new people realizing QC isn't what they hoped for.

>>175935443
russians can't speak english and the americans haven't woken up yet. all you're left with are countries that are shit at quake

>>175935524
The fuck are those people doing on 4ch? It's not like /vg/ is a pinnacle of gaming social network

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>>175935581
lol