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Critical Agent Failure Edition

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previous thread >>175765531
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OLD FRIEND WHEN REEEEEEEEE
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>>175899206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBXXfO150U
[Norgrim has gone for a soldier starts playing]

"7045, Crooked Fang Fort - I was killed"
-Angrund Soldier

Besieged once again, and with no reinforcements nearby, the garrison at Crooked Fang Fort is forced to sally out and meet the enemy on the field of battle

The resulting battle ends with a victory for the Angrund forces, but one purchased with the blood of most of their army

The Angrund shield wall is almost completely annihilated - of the 500 who entered the battle, only 21 remain. The survivors recall that the sky was seemingly filled with projectiles - blasting charges, artillery shells, grudgethrower projectiles, throwing axes, thuderer volleys, and quarrels shredding through soldiers on both sides. The Angrund forces only managed to turn the tide when a group of rangers ambushed the Everpeak artillery crews, allowing the Angrund guns to turn their fire on the Everpeak missile corps.
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>>175904854
> Stunties killing stunties

Das a good 'un boss
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>>175904854
The sole survivor of a ranger regiment at Crooked Fang Fort fires on retreating Everpeak forces
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>>175904854
How's the map lookin? Anything major happen worth showin' or is it just as planned with army positions and borders still lookin' the same?
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Me, a proud wandering Dawi, having SEX with a Wood Elf? That'll NEVER happen! At least, that's what I thought until last week...
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WHATS THE BEST MODS
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>>175904854
>>175905628

the Angrund losses are not in vain however - with the victory at Crooked Fang Fort, the last Everpeak Army in Angrund territory is defeated - all that is left of their once considerable force is a small raiding party to the northwest of Valaya's sorrow. The force at Karak Azgal encountered and defeated the remnants of Thorgrim's army, and is on their way to reclaiming Deff Gorge, where they will then turn back north and begin working on the remaining Everpeak settlements in blightwater and the desolation of nagash.

King Belegar Ironhammer has Ungrim Ironfist surrounded at Dok Karaz, and reinforcements are on their way from the Vaults. Rorek the Impenetrable has secured the Western Badlands, and will soon turn east towards iron rock and the valuable gold mines of Karak Drazh
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>>175905884
KRAKA DRAK
R
A
K
A

D
R
A
K

Also Tier 4 minor settlements.
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>>175905884
It depends what you're looking for. I like Steel Faith personally, but it's pretty incompatible with other stuff.
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>>175906002
>Orion not taking the other elven cities
Is he retarded? Also, are those the only factions left?
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We better be able to play as this based hero for the undead faction in the third game. Could have saved the world and defeated chaos had the asinine mortals and mannlet not constantly meddled with his schemes

Pic related, him btfoing reddit rats after starving in the desert for weeks
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>>175906197
probably cheaper for him

Afaik, yes - the north got roflstomped by the norscans before the first chaos invasion even came, and after I killed off the chaos warriors, the Dwarfs went north and absolutely obliterated the vampire counts, who were the only real survivors north of blackfire pass. When the Age of Peace pseudo-realm divide hit, tilea and estalia were the first factions I targeted, with Brettonia and the empire soon after. While at war w/ the empire the main Dwarf faction accepted an invitation to war. The norscans fucked off almost immediately after the Age of Peace began
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>>175906221
>Nagash
>a hero
>saving the world by making everyone either a mindless servant
> or dominating and enslaving their will to his

Arkhan pls, your yearly tribute to Settra is overdue btw, you need to pay up, pls Arkhan.
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>tfw playing with a Agent neutering mod because the AI spam is fucking ridiculous
>Simply cannot live without this mod
>find two mods, one fixes AI recruitment and build orders, and the other changes up the campaign
>now forced to choose between having fresh and fun new battles and game experience, or suffering eternally from constant assassinations and other fuckarounds
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>I wonder what the border princes are up t-
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is there ever going to be a consequence for offering every agreement i possibly can to my neighboring factions
even the dwarves i dont even remember greeting are green to me because its too braindead easy
why would i ever not be nice to everything around me
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>>175904854
Cute war between the states references, made your story interesting to read
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G O B L I N S
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>>175906002
KHAZUKAN
KHAZAKIT
HUUUAAASDFASDFASDZZXC
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>>175908001
why should there be a consequence for being a good ally to oldest ally
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>175906002
King Belegar knows that he has the Everpeak forces on their last legs when a messenger is sent to his field headquarters at Dok Karaz, with a peace offering from Thorgrim.

Although it pains him to continue to pit kin against kin, King Belegar knows that to make peace now would only benefit the Everpeak - allowing them to rebuild their armies and use the cessation to prepare for a later war.

As for the Angrund forces, their only recent loss came when Thorgrim fucking spawned on a half built army that was apparently mustering 6 ironbreakers and just fucking happened to recruit them the exact turn my army in the south moved into range, which is total fucking horseshit
led a surprise force out of the misty mountain, destroying the army that had recently captured deff gorge. The survivors of Crooked Fang Fort move to Karak Azgal, prepared to defend the precious diamond mines located there if Thorgrim turns north
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>>175908934
I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>175909247
continue, please
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>>175906687
If using them all together doesn't straight up cause crashes you should be able to tweak the load order and get your agents working with everything else
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Wurrzag's campaign is pretty tough desu
Fun though
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>>175909565
>dominated by a best elf
>posts worst elves
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>>175909565
Id lick her sweaty stinky feet after she comes back from a long campaign.
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>>175909247
The High King has surrounded the Everpeak itself! His campaign in the Blood River Valley successful, Belegar moves onto the Silver Road.

Rorek the Impenetrable's capture of Karak Drazh has divided the remaining Everpeak holdings into 2 separate theaters, with the army of Bryynoth Ironwill moving north to secure the rest of Death Pass and attack the Silver Road from the south, while Rorek's army moves into the Desolation of Nagash, to secure the province and hopefully stop the Everpeak from recruiting any more armies in the south. With the loss at Misty Mountain, Thorgrim's army is unchallenged south of Karak Azgal, but the garrison there is strong enough to repel them should he attempt to take it and go north to relieve his capital. So far he has been content to sack Deff Gorge again
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>>175910067
with that level of sexual degeneracy you're pining after the wrong elves buddy
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Rock the boat!
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I'm going to be dominated by a best spoop!
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>>175819741
I can't even keep up the RP anymore. These greenskin fucks just keep popping up and won't stay dead. Fucking Big Bird spawned at turn 109 and apparently got mobbed by everyone in the north while he was rampaging down towards me. I shudder to think about going after the actual Greenskin faction itself, rather than Wurrzag, because Grimgor has the off-hand chance of headbutting me in the god damn dick. The only positive of this campaign so far has been the change of pace as compared to the standard Norsca->Kislev->Empire route, but that's marred by the fact this tempo prevents me from getting two armies built and funded, so I can do the unit shuffle and get Archaon's horde the way I want it to be. I haven't even done any of the quests, and Archaon is lvl 23 for shit's sake.

THE GODS HAVE FORSAKEN ME, DAMN YOU TZEENTCH i still hate the fact i had to take lightning strike to survive i might just restart
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Wait hol up

Will there be mountains for Dawi to colonize in Lustria?

MY GRUDGES WILL SPAN THE WORLD
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>>175911749
Just as planned.Vilitch the curseling LL when?
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>>175910234
The Everpeak falls with a whimper - cut off from supplies and reinforcements after the fall of the Pillars of Grungni. The armies in the silver road will soon turn north after securing the rest of the province, in order to root out the remaining Everpeak holds in the north.

In the south, Rorek the Impenetrable's army has successfully captured the important iron/saltpeter mines of Black Iron Mine and Karak Azul, and detoured west in order to capture Dringorackaz. His army will be important in capturing the remaining Everpeak holds in the south.

Thorgrim, realizing that his kingdom is dying, has captured Deff Gorge - Rorek's army will have to defeat his army in battle eventually
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>>175912331
Conquer anywhere in game 2.
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>>175912491
KHA

ZUUUUUUUUUUUK

watch out lizardshits
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>>175912331
Western Lustria has mountains just like South America, just look up Lustria on google and it should be the first result. Ulthuan also has mountains all through out, so if for nothing else it should be fun abusing underway stance for quick escapes from overwhelming force.
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SAGASH DURTHU
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>>175909565
She would probably be terrible at dominating you, despite her best efforts, it would just be too cute.

>>175909768
She's not a wood elf
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>>175913095
N-NAN DESU TTE
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Best TWW voice?

>my vote is pic related
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>>175911341
Why does it have anchors?
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>>175913318
No contest, Gelt is best
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>>175913351
So it doesn't drift away when it wants to stop obviously.
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A warherd raiding in death pass is dispatched with ease
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>>175913351
To keep it in place so the wind doesn't blow it away.
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>>175913095
>High elves
>being cute in any context
L O L (Lots Of Laughs)
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when should you sack, raze, or loot & occupy as humans
ive only occupied so far
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>>175914147
Raze everything. Don't be a bitch.
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>>175914147

Sack every time, occupy after.
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Thanks to toaster, I've never played a TW game on warscape. What's the deal these days? Does the AI still make a million mini stacks or do they concentrate in a few actually effective armies?
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>>175914461
The AI generally likes to build bigger armies as far as I can tell
>effective
Woah, let's not get TOO crazy here!
The AI cheats re: upkeep and so on so they aren't as limited in terms of army composition which sometimes results in joke armies and sometimes results in armies that will fuck you up.
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>>175914147
Sack when you need or want cash and you're getting a decent amount for doing it (5k+), raze if you're pissed and want nothing more to do with it, occupy+loot if you think you can handle the order malus(it's not that bad imo) or you want to farm rep, occupy is you're go to choice since it takes from you're enemy and gives it to you with an even more minimal loss of public order, sacking and then razing on the next turn is a pain in the ass. Unless you're french then raze if it's evil and occupy if it's human, acquire chivalry.
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>>175914614
Yeah, it always cheated. Hilariously.

No more need to build navies to transport troops anymore?
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>>175914750
Not in Warhammer, no.
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>>175912404
Thorgrim's army attacks Rorek's force while they are marching through the underway - the result is disastrous

Outranged by the Angrund implements, and unable to counter the thunderer regiments placed within the ironbreaker shield wall, Thorgrim's troops are slaughtered - most of them meeting their end at the bottom of the slope that Rorek positioned his army on, where they were barraged by blasting charges and thunderer volleys
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>>175914865
Man that's lazy.
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>>175914639
>occupy+loot if you think you can handle the order malus(it's not that bad imo) or you want to farm rebels for levels

My bad, didn't mean to type rep.
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>>175915001
Thorgrim's defeat is the end of the Everpeak dwarfs - their remaining, defenseless holds quickly fall, and the war is over.

It is done
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I WANT TO PLAY OGRES RIGHT

NOW!
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>>175915001
>Close victory
How are these things even calculated?
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>>175915729
Congrats, thanks for the info, and to the guy who went on a failed expedition to the badlands as chaos, for what it's worth I appreciate you making the attempt.
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>>175916098
Its been fucky since the brettonia patch, idk what CA changed but it really messed it up, it was pretty good before
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>>175913351
See the barnacles? It's fully functioning as a water vessel, the rear wheels acting as paddle wheels when it's in the water.
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>>175915729
Too much Dawi blood has been spilled.
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>>175913318
Karl Franz.
I would let him fuck me as long as he was continuously shouting.
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>>175915729
good storytime anon
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>>175916491

Just give this guy a call then. He's Franz's voice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2xUn93IwK4
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>‘Anything you want to say to me, you can say in front of the manling. He is a Dwarf Friend and an Oathkeeper.’

Tfw you will never earn Dawi respect
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Fuck akhbarr and fuck goat people

>tfw no flame cannon

It would have been fucking glorious
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>>175918186
>akhbarr

Subtle economic migrant commentary
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>>175918186
>irondrakes
>fiery ring of thori
>flame cannon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M
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>>175919741
stop bullying low tier armies!
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>>175917035
No. It's gotta be from the prince and emperor himself.
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>>175919949
goat fucking shits need to stop pooping out corruption in my fucking provinces
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SUMMON THE ASININE CUNTS
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>>175921451

I DO NOT RECOGNIZE YOUR FOREIGN GARB

ARE YOU HUNG OR KURGAN?
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>>175913318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVE-mncKFsA
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>>175912491
>Conquer anywhere in game 2.
Thats not what they said

They said you can conquer any settlement in the W2 campaign, not in the grand campaign.
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TOOOOOOOOOOOOODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>175923754
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>>175923754
kek
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Do the Gorebull's army support talents stack if I've got multiple Gorebulls?
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>>175924727

Yes.

It's massively broken
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>>175925097
That's going to be a pretty silly melee attack bonus. Cheers.
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>new trial board added.
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>>175926127
Gook keeps fucking up.
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>A little over 9 weeks since Bretonnia
>still no word of Old Friend
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I dont have the chaos DLC. does the campaign start at advanced turns (70+) or do you start turn 1 as everyone else with them?
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>>175915731
2018 lad.
You can play them in BotET mod for Medieval 2 though.
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>>175912331
Regional occupation is turned off for the combined map.

Expect Dwarfs to conquer Hochland and Bretonnia to Invade Karaz Ankor.
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>>175923754
IS GONNA BE!
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>>175926483
We need to update that image, keep the Chaos Manlets but replace everyone else with Kangs, Ogres and Daemons.
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>>175926995
>keep the Chaos Manlets
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>tfw Warhammer 2 is the closest I will ever get to sticking my dick in Alarielle
why even live
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>>175925238
>Triple Gorebull

Also note that if you have two Gorebulls going for the melee attack aoe buff, different levels of the buff will stack.

So one dude at t4 buff and one dude at t3 can result in a 32 attack, 40 yard aoe buff.
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>>175928114
You can dress up some cosplaying slut and motorboat her.
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>>175928114
childhood is idolizing women
adulthood is realizing they are all just a hole
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>Angrand
>Very hard
>Every 5 turns a crooked moon gits wagh forms across the map and runs at me, arriving in waves full of big bosses that spam block army using gold the ai cant possibly have
>prevents me from doing anything else with my 1 stack (cant afford anything else, of course)
>empire attacks crooked moon to the north
>kills everything but one settlement then fucks off
>go to take care of it
>skarsnik chilling with 3 full stacks that are impossible to support, since he has no economy left
>and 2 big bosses, which he sends at me to spam block army with gold he doesnt have until he can catch me with his stacks he cant pay for

This game is stupid sometimes.
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>>175928114
>Alarielle
>not wanting Gor-Rok's white lizard cloaca

pleb taste
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>>175928261
>stacking gorebull buffs can make ungors better than bestigors

they truly are worstigors, aren't they
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News in e3?
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>>175928858
Yes. Likely a reveal trailer for the secret 4th race, plus some gameplay footage from a quest battle.
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Today better be the day
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>>175929058
Has the day ever fallen on a Friday?
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>>175929116

Yeah today
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>>175929116
They've done some streams on Friday before but I assume a 'battle for black fire pass' (tfw we never got that game) will be the first release.
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>>175928987
What is the secret 4th race???
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>>175929237
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>>175928987
>""""""""secret"""""" race
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>>175929237

Ogres
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>>175926413
turn 1
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>>175929286
but anon we already have beastmen :DDDD
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>>175929237

DUDE RATS LMAO
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>>175928570
I might just suck but it took a long ass time to get my feet off the ground as Angrud VH, simply because the mutinous gits shit out stack after stack that pop out at the worst time.
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>>175926238
I am still mad about /qst/
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Which TW youtubers do ya recommend, /twg/? I can't play TWW for another week yet
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>>175931254
>turin
>milkandcookiestw
>heirofcarthage

are the only ones I can stand to watch currently, I would rate them in that order

>RIP wolfofremustw/maximus decimus autismus
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>>175931254
just watch Heir of Carthage, plays a decent range of campaigns and multiplayer and isn't a tryhard.
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Who would win?

>insane tatooed duel-axe wielding warrior who is part of a martial cult and has a death wish
>a horse drawn carriage
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>>175932196
horse drawn carriage, horses are 4 times stronger than humans and a carriage weighs many times that of a person.
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>>175932196
>an asinine mortal
vs
>a mighty war machine of ruinous powers
The answer is beyond your comprehension
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>>175915729
You just killed the High King and made Grombrindal abandon the Dawi.

This is going in the book!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_9g6H8qoU

Today isn't gonna be the day, is it?
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>>175933924
It won't be the day for another month. Mark my fucking runes.
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whoa chillax Averland
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Is it just me, or is Empire so much fucking harder to play?
>Beastmen stacks turn up at turn 10 and rapes Helmgart
>Marienburg delcares war on turn 14 and rapes Eilhart with 2 stacks
>Try to make alliance with Stirland and Wissenland
>They both get destroyed by Vampires and Skarsnik
>Karak Ziflin declares war on me turn 23
>Raided by Skullsmasherz since they somehow ignore both Bretonnia and Marienburg
>Artois declares war on me 28
>Still having to fight on 3 fronts, Middenheim declares war on me turn 35

What am i doing wrong?
It feels i don't have any money to create additional armies, any garrison i try to build isn't enough to fight of a stack, anytime i move my lord from a town it gets sacked.
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>>175934168
never had your problems and i play on legendary
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>>175934264
Im playing on VH, and im struggling a lot, got any advice?
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>>175932959
>all I wanted to do was fight grobi scum
>dwarfs win badlandsbowl
>chaos fucks up everyone up north
>I defeat chaos
>want to let vamps recolonize everything so I can have fun battles vs hordes of zombies, skellies and misc monsters
>dwarfs murder the vamp cunts
>If I had confederated during the shield of civilization event I could have won with minimal effort

I fucking hate the dwarfs winning the badlandsbowl, so I made sure they didn't

>>175934168
building lots of armies is a bad idea in wh, every lord you recruit increases upkeep on all units by a % - if you want to protect cities you have to build walls in every single settlement. Beastmen love to rush helmgart, usually I will keep my lord's army within reinforcing range of the city in order to lure them out and destroy them. When reikland is secure you move on marienburg for the port $$$
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>>175934438
It's hard to make a move on Marienburg with only 1 army against their 2 + garrison
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>>175934372
uh, get marienburg for sweet cash.
try to make friends so they fight for you while you pick up their devastated cities
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Total War: Arena looks kinda neat. Hopefully I will be playing with /twg/ when it's done or whatever.
>>175934040
Rightful Averland clay.
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>>175934563
ambush stance can help there
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>>175934563
>he doesn't know how to bait out the marienjew' army
>he is the one who leads fellow men of the Empire to war
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what are the perfect first 10-15 turns for archaon on legendary?
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>>175935573
>remove marauder building
>build chaos warrior building
>get warriors
>fuck off to norsca
>scip the dorfs
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>>175935573
suicide in order to avoid the most tedious campaign in any total war game ever
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What wizard should I use for my imperial crusade to Sylvania?

Light or Bright?
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STUFF!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_9g6H8qoU
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>>175935705
>playing for victory objectives
>not reveling in razing every settlement
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>>175935908
NEVER
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>>175935745
light for the morale debuff and for netting and/or banishing undead fucking shits

>>175935983
>>not reveling in razing every settlement

>having to fight the same settlement map over and over
>having to fight it 2x/settlement if you want money
>every siege battle you use the same exact tactics
>no field battles unless the ai outnumbers you 3 to 1

no thank you
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Nothing.
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>9th week since last update
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>>175935745
Take celestial to drop comets on clumps
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So, Old friend is going to be released on the 1 year anniversary of WH1, right?
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>>175935745
Light if you plan to do netting + shooting.
Bright if you want to skirmish I guess.

I'd take either a shadow or celestial over a bright in campaign these days. Harmonic is a great buff anything but especially cav, curse of the midnight wind is also great, and shadow is just good all around.
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>all this crappy art instead of faction or gameplay trailers
So we're not getting TW2 until December then. Great.
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>>175931254
Turin first

Then if you're desperate, Heir

Everyone else is awful, just fucking awful. Even Heir is awful, but hes bearably awful.

Turin is bloody fantastic though. He never falls into the meta everyone else is doing, does his own thing, and always does exceptionally well when he really should lose.
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>>175937427
He also does a pretty good job of explaining why he is picking and doing what he's doing while actually doing it.

Which is impressive.
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>>175928987
>Likely a reveal trailer for the secret 4th race
Pfhthahahahahaahahahahahah

No.

Let me put it into your head how many videos they are going to do
>Generic ingame all 3 factions trailer
>Generic campaign map video
>Lord trailer x3-6
>Army trailer x3
>Campaign trailer x3
>Unit trailers x9-12
THEN we will get Skaven, just before launch, along with the announcement for the pre order DLC.
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I really really really really really REALLY hate gobbo battles
it's just constant kiting and the AI always fucks me
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>>175937542
And he actually knows everything. Every other twat spends all their time mousing over abilities and passives and reading it all out while Turin knows it all off by heart.

Plus he can actually micro
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>>175937628
>place up wall of shields
>archers behind
>archers kill all gobbos
>Griffons have literally no counter and go have fun time with gobbo kebabs
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>>175937628

SCHEMED
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>>175937628
Try an AI army recruitment mod. If you don't already use one that is.
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guys, i LOVE AoS
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>>175937748
>place up wall of shields
>overwhelming gobbo firepower destroys it since it's already so damaged pre-battle
>archers kill all gobbos
>when they ran out of ammo last turn when I attacked skarsnik with his one stack of 90% archers and forest spiders
you're right to an extent about the Griffins except AI cav archers are great at countering them in my experience, especially forest spider archers with their poison
just gonna auto resolve and hope for the best
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>>175937831
It's crooked moon though, they'll still be recruiting gobbos.
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>>175937586
Wow, good job. You just copypasted what they did for Warhammer 1, without adding in any critical thought. Sure told me.

Why would they hold off Skaven just before launch? Because they didn't show off VC until just before launch? Don't be an idiot. That would only send the message that the game only has 3 factions and that the Skaven are part of the preorder bonus. No, they are going to reveal them when they have the largest audience, which will be at e3.
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>>175937857
AoS being shit is the only thing the fantasy and history sections of /twg/ can broadly agree on
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>>175938065
>Wow, good job. You just copypasted what they did for Warhammer 1
Wew no shit moron. Thats the point.

Too stupid to understand that, outstanding, here is your last reply.
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>>175938194
>I was merely pretending to be an idiot
Nice damage control.
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>>175938065
There is a 0% chance they show Skaven at E3, they have too much else to show first and that would ruin the hype. You have no clue what you're talking about kiddo.
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>>175938092
but i don't agree
AoS is THE BEST
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>>175938034
Melee gobbos instead.

>>175938092
I guess it's kinda unfair to compare AoS lore to the much larger and older Fantasy lore, but holy fuck the premiss is so bad.

At least you can have some fun with the gameplay.
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>>175938241
His point is you're too stupid to realize how marketing works, they wont show off the biggest hype point this early on when they can show off the other races first

Marketing 101 kiddo, now get >>>/out/
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>>175938092

>he replied to the AoS baitfag
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>>175938278
>ruin the hype
That makes zero sense. How is a trailer going to ruin the hype? Did seeing Mazdamundi and some gyrating skinks ruin the lizardmen hype for you?

>>175938354
>kiddo
No need to project. Your entire point hinges on them showing off every minute detail of the Skaven and not just a 2 minute trailer. Christ you people are dumb.
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Tips on feeding my pet Wood Elf?
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>today wasn't the day
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>>175938532
Copious amounts of BBC
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>>175938412
>baitfag
but i genuinely like it
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>>175938621
>bretonnian boicock
I believe it
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>>175938009
Archers/handguns and artillery replenish ammo after every battle.
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>>175938463
>show off a faction they have shown nothing of vs factions we know of
You are literally too thick to reason with

Everyone just ignore this idiot
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>>175938876
Wood elves are all shotacons. It is known.
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>>175938463
>Your entire point hinges on them showing off every minute detail of the Skaven
No, it hinges off basic fact. Showing off Skaven in any form is going to be the biggest reveal for them. Showing off the current factions units isnt. They will reveal Skaven before launch for more hype. This anon is right >>175938901 you're literally too stupid and defensive to see reason.
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>>175938985
>Showing off Skaven in any form is going to be the biggest reveal for them
Which is why they have their biggest reveal in front of the biggest audience and not a month before release when the hype train is already in full force.
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>>175938065
>That would only send the message that the game only has 3 factions and that the Skaven are part of the preorder bonus.
You are literally so stupid you cant even read CAs statements

>Four races, four outcomes, a single goal: control of the Great Vortex, for good or ill.
Literally on the steam page moron. Skaven are not preorder and they've said it like 10 times in different places.
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>>175938960
Naieth the Prophetess and her love affair with little boi franz is one of the unsung pillars of the setting
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>>175938876
>>175938960
Big BEAST cock
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The only good dwarf is a ____ dwarf.
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>>175938892
why would you think that's what I meant

if I went up against them last round and ran out against lesser numbers how do you think it'll play out with more of them this round
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>>175939121
Oh I'm well aware. No need to take any and every shot your can muster at me. It just makes you look desperate. But I'm not the average person looking to buy the game. Even with the store page laying it out plainly, you still had idiots all over the internet proclaiming that there are only 3 faction and that Skaven must be preorder.
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>>175939096
>Which is why they have their biggest reveal in front of the biggest audience
Thats why they announced W2 on youtube and not at e3 right?

You are literally the most stupid person on /twg/ today, well done. Here is your last (you)
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>>175939156
Is an Allied dwarf
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>>175939272
>That backpedal to save face
You're a sad, sad person to try and save face that hard.

>you still had idiots all over the internet
Well we keep telling you to leave but you wont.
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But what is it?
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>>175939386

His unique upkeep bonus that you don't get when you confederate him
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>>175939353
>>you still had idiots all over the internet
>Well we keep telling you to leave but you wont.
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>>175939352
how dare you post dead rats
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>>175939353
How did I backpedal? I never once said in my post that I thought Skaven were a preoder race. You really shouldn't use words you don't know the meaning of to sound smart.

>>175939479
Keep sucking each other off. Doesn't make you any less wrong.
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>>175939545
>i-im not backpedaling!
>even though i didn't know they weren't a preorder race!
Its spelt 'Preorder'. I can tell you're getting so upset over getting your bullshit called out you cant even type properly anymore so have another little rage fit, see if anyone cares.
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>>175939524
They're the only good ones though.
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>>175939524

Kill all rats!
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>>175939786
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>>175939728
>>175939786
>>175939916
how dare you
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Right, steamid got updated 5 hours ago.

https://steamdb.info/app/364360/dlc/

Old Friend? Or could it be something else?
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>>175937831
>downloading an army composition mod because you can't deal with ranged units
this is why I don't fucking use them, half of the mods show shitty stacks that are too melee heavy to be good for anything.
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>>175940275
Ranged units are the easiest to deal with thought. A few crossbows will decimate a stack of marauder horsemen or pistoleers, it just makes for an extremely dull battle.
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>>175940116
It will probably be a pain in the ass to genocide them, but it will probably well worth it.
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>>175940231
Old Friend arrives at E3
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>>175940860
NO
REEEEEEEEEEEE
DELET THIS
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>>175940860
genociding skaven is what im looking forward to most from WH2, because it adds something that enriches the gameplay of every faction
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>>175940431
>using skirmishers vs. missile cav as an example
dipshit/10

Never seen whole stacks of missile cav in 400 hours of vanilla.

The only time I saw an only missile cav army it was clear that all the generals melee units had died from fighting.
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>>175939156
is a VENGEFUL dwarf
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>>175941085
Well I saw them frequently enough in <100 hours of vanilla, along with all mortar armies and all chariot armies, which is why I used the mod for my next 400 hours. The AI simply does not put together fun armies to fight in vanilla.
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>>175941050
>Crushing skaven with chosen
>Incinerating skaven with irondrakes
>Smashing skaven with black orcs
>Ambushing skaven with waywatchers
>Ripping apart skaven with blood knights
>Trampling skaven with reiksguard
>Goring skaven with minotaurs
>Eviscerating skaven with dreadswords
>Evaporating skaven with slann
>Mangling skaven with star dragons
It's going to be great.
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good tactics/units vs single target bosses like lords?
the antilarge/single target doesnt seem to be that effective for me
the ones on mounts fuck me up especially hard
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>>175932672
we need to make an official radious 'sub mod' full of ridiculous units like that
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>>175941360
Really wish we had bugman as a lord/hero with an ability like isabella's chalice, regeneration on a select few dwarfs would be a neat mechanic
Maybe only let them drink up while they aren't engaged in combat, so you can pull them back, heal up, and re-engage them
Plus it lets opponents try and stop you from healing
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>>175904179
Are imported matchlocks worthwhile in the long run? I know they seem powerful given the havoc matchlocks can wreak, but even the +5 difference in accuracy they have doesn't seem to make a difference when compared to the 120 men you get with normal matchlocks, which means you can front more guys for a much greater weight of fire, and thus more hits, than that little bit of accuracy gives you.
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>>175941475
>be chosen
>get gassed by poison wind globadiers
>be irondrakes
>get melted by warpfire throwers
>be black orcs
>get cut to pieces by stormvermin
>be waywatchers
>get riddled by jezzails
>be blood knights
>get run over by a doomwheel
>be reiksguard
>get torn apart by hell pit abomination
>be minotaurs
>get crushed by rat ogres
>be dreadswords
>get backstabbed by eshin assassins
>be slann
>get melted by a Grey Seer
>be star dragon
>get vaporised by warp lightning cannon
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>>175942995
>*teleports behind you*
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>>175942995

>be skaven
>get half your roster cut due to too many charlemagnes
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>>175942995
Irondrakes are resistant to fire damage you silly ratfag
And in no world should stormvermin be winning against black orcs, skaven elites are average when compared to other armies
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>>175943349
That second statement is complete bullshit.
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>>175943349
>implying warpfire is just fire
>implying it won't do ap and magic damage
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>>175941050
>>175941475
i swear i will use my Skaven to kill you all
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>>175943579
Dwarfs have a natural 25% magic resistance in TWW, numbnuts. 40% if they're led by a Runelord.
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>>175941508
single target magic
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>>175943289
o im laffin

I honestly want to see the rats ruined
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>>175943579
Okay, and irondrakes are also resistant to magic in TWW due to being dwarfs

A silly example is standing the skolder guard in range of a 20% missile res runesmith and a runelord's locus of power, they can tank out all of a glade guard's starfire (magic+fire) ammo without losing a single dwarf, and typically route the elves in one volley
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>>175943546
The assault begins, flanking from both sides
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i think my karl is stuck in some mountains after retreating from a battle what do i do
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>>175943853
One tower is in flames, soon we climb the walls
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>>175942995
>Fighting Black Orcs with Stormvermin
>Fighting Waywatchers with Jezzails
>Fighting Minotaurs with Rat Ogres
>Using Assassins against infantry blobs
>Fighting a Slann with a Grey Seer
5/10 see me after class.
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>>175944078
The castle has fallen! An easy but noble victory!
>>
WIZAD
>>
another week with fucking nothing. CA has turned me into a DLC-loving slut
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>>175944347
Gelt, your face is melting
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>>175944610
Don't worry, he's used to that.
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>>175944469
UNLEASH THE BEAST
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>>175942995
Memerats only exist because of furries in GW staff. The only reason they 'won' Fantasy is because those furries managed to get some 'oomph' with the writing crew.

Honestly, I just find them silly to the extreme, they feel shoehorned in.
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>>175944347
>Rat >elite troops can compete with those of other races

This is what Master Splinter actually believes
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>>175942832
Pls help I haven't played Otomo before
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>>175944778
They can, but the counters the guy suggested were silly.
Like using an Eshin character against basic elf infantry or Jezzails against light ranged skirmishers.
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>>175944959
You really don't want too many imported matchlock ashigaru, but when the terrain favors them they can wreak havoc in the early game. The numbers are less of an issue than you think, though, as only the first rank of gunners can fire, meaning that you can generally stretch imported matchlock ashigaru about as far as you can regular matchlock ashigaru and have the same weight of fire. Their smaller unit size only becomes noticable if they start losing models.
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>>175945205
On the table top aren't they the one army able to out cheap expendable infantry spam VC?
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>>175945280
Thanks m8
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>TWW
>434 hours over past month
i think i need a break
I think i will play Shogun 2 for a bit
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>>175945341
Also, never have more than one unit of donderbuss cavalry per army. They're probably the most deadly unit in the game but also the most micro-intensive, and if you take your eyes off them for a minute they have a tendency to butcher your own army. Portuguese tercos are essentially katana samurai with guns and can be thrown into melee combat fairly safely due to their high melee attack and armor, but keep in mind their melee defense is quite low. You'll want a lot of them because they're very good all-round units.
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>>175945440
Played some Shogun 2 last night. Still massively enjoyable. I'm impressed by how well it's held up.
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>>175945595
The best games are those that are good regardless of when they were released.
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>>175945440
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>>175945683
Agreed. There's an elegant simplicity to shogun 2 that just makes it so easy to pick up after a year or 2, hop right in and have fun.
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>>175944726
then you obviously have no idea about the setting or the company whatsoever,

Honestly I just find your post silly to the extreme, it feels shoehorned in.
>>
>can't do my fucking badlands errantry war because I'm too busy saving the known world from endless marauders
I just wanted to fight some orcs do your fucking job franz
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>>175945340
Yep, I think individual Skavenslaves were the cheapest infantry in the game.
8th edition gave huge advantages to large blocks of infantry which the Skaven could shit out in droves. They also had a bunch of unique rules (such as improved leadership for having extra ranks) before the update, so horde spam became absurdly powerful.
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>>175944959
Sell all your land to christians and upgrade to get a nanban port asap.

IIRC you can get terco's straight away with just the port, you don't actually need to the black powder building like it says you do.

Then... you colonise
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Should I? I'm good friends with Takeda but not so much with Satake. They're just turtleing on their island and not doing anything.
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>>175931254
I like PartyElite, he hasn't done tutorial videos in a while but I enjoy the total breakdowns
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>>175943832
I really want to try this shit out but no one in quick battle ever seems to pick elves.
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>>175931462
how do you even watch those people? I don't know about milkandcookies, but don't the other 2 just cast mutliplayer matches? Everyone knows MP is shit in total war unless it's head to head campaign
>>
>>175904179
poo poo
pee pee
poo poo
pee pee
wee wee
ploppy poo poos
pee wee
sloshy poo poos
>>
>>175946780
lolno

The Honma are worth far more dead than alive.
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>>175942580
>implying dwarfs don't drink heavily in a melee brawl

dwarfs defo need their one regen effect from TT in TWW though.
>>
how do I play elves

I tried attacking my fellow elves and I got destroyed

then I started over and I attacked the enchantress but she didn't want to come out of her castle
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>>175947535
>how do I play elves
you don't play elves
>>
>browse the workshop
>see chaos divided mod
>wow it has 5 stars

>it's fucking crap
>>
Do all regeneration effects stack in this game & do they all go towards the hitpoint replenishment cap?

If I take multiple necromancers does master of the dead stack?

I'm wondering how useful stacking all this shit is on VC.

>>175947535
You can rush the growth building & tech and you'll get hawk riders, wild riders & tree-kin by turn 18-20 and then you can just take the whole of Athel Loren pretty easily.

You have to raze some settlements to fund it though.

I spent my first few turns farming rebels with 3 lords because I wanted to use treeman ancients who actually had access to the full lore of life as well as army buffs.
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>>175948264
It use to be good.

tbqhwy I still like it, dont see anythign wrong with it besides the really cheap trash inf
then again I havent played it in almost half a year lasses
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Anyone knows if this includes any new info?
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>>175948947
for £5.99 I doubt it
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>>175946995
I tried it for sake of testing, I don't know if it would work due to their short range. Normal irondrakes or trollhammers are pretty safe due to LoS stuff though
But dwarfs meme on them really hard in general
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>>175948308
One of each regen effect will apply at once, they don't double up but they do stack
Natural regen (crypt horrors etc), mortis engine regen, corpse cart with unholy lodestone, and master of the dead
The easiest way to get all of these is a necromancer lord/hero on a corpse cart w/ lodestone and a mortis engine alongside that
Bonus points to Kemmler's chaos tomb blade, the regen on that is rather silly if not for the fact you have to engage in melee with him
Vlad's also resilient enough with only his own regen
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How the HELL am I meant to beat this???
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>>175949454
chosens with halberds
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>>175949454
what are the grail reliquaes even for?
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How come no one plays head to head campaign that shit look fun. I only watch some turin vs italianspartacus but they didn't have turn timers on so that shit was boring as fuck.
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>>175949454
What are you playing as?
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>>175949454
anti-large and good heroes
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>>175949454
crossbowman make quick work of those flying beasts
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>Felix bullying the qt celestial mage
Why is this allowed
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>>175949454
Wait for them to die from attrition
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Does any1 know how melee attack and defence works? Like If I have 20 attack and hit someone with 20 defence, does that mean its a 50% chance of hitting or something? Just trying to figure out how beneficial investing in these stats are
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>>175948947
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>>175949651
Style points, obviously
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i'm bored, anyone wants to play some battles, or campaign or anything?
TWW.

steam http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971544420/
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>>175950793
I do, but my dlc is pirated and I don't know if that will fuck up our compatability. Also do you use any mods?
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>>175950506
lol that one guy who got pierced in the back
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"decisive" victory
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>>175951123
>Also do you use any mods?
nope, no mods
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>>175950612
Geomantic web mechanics for Lizardmen? I wonder if I can collapse Dawi holds with it
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>>175949454
>"How do I beat-"
Demis
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>>175950612
wtf this is piracy
don't read this if you haven't bought this month's PC GAMER
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>>175950612
>"so should we be expecting total warhammer: Age of Sigmar?"

>"never say never!"

someone hang this man
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>>175951545
But I love high fantasy
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>>175951545
Oh shit, why does this read like a parody article?
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Flaming Arrows are good in naval combat, who knew?
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>>175951545
hey i want AoS TWW
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>>175950602
% of hit landed =(MA-MD)%+base value(30% or something I don't remember)
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>>175951319
fuck lol I tried to add you, but I also bought warhammer on g2a and it's my only game. It says you need to spend at least 5 bux on steam to add a friend.

Anyway to play without adding you to friends? maybe I'll host a game
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>>175952153
>It says you need to spend at least 5 bux on steam to add a friend
Wait what, it is a thing?
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>>175951425
I wonder if they'll be randomized or different for other lizardmen factions
Might be one way to make them more interesting in the grand campaign, since you might get a leyline underneath Altdorf or some other random place on the other side of the world, which would encourage to go and fight other races
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>>175952270
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>>175952475
also I hosted a head to head campaign if you want to play

gn: steamjew
pw: jew
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>>175952475
wow, that is jewbongo.
Maybe i can add you?
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>>175952431
Willing to bet the leyline mechanic will only be relevant to the Vortex and be non-existent in the grand sandbox campaign.
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>>175952627
u ready?
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>>175952606
can you make it 3 people?
Some other anon seems like he wants to join
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>>175952730
If it's going to be their main faction mechanic I doubt it
It's probably not just going to result in a victory condition on its own in the grand campaign
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>>175952730
that would suck, I want a mechanics where a Slann can nuke enemy settlements on a leylines. Or Lizardmen teleport along leylines I guess
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>>175952869
is mp only 2 players?
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>>175949406
ok cheers,

so do all those effects contribute to the hitpoint replenishment cap or is it only spells like invocation of nehek?
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>>175953149
head to head campaign is only 2. are you griffon or dootzkie?
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>>175953225
All of them do
Otherwise, Vlad would be almost unkillable by anything short of a multi-lord/hero/monster gangbang or elite units
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>>175952936
>Lizardmen end up getting the most broken underway mechanic yet
>declare war
>teleport to city
>sack/raze
>sue for peace
>teleport back
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>>175953474
i'm Griffons, other anon is Dootzkie.
Would be cool if we all could play though.
Maybe let's make it coop?
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why does no one ver play morghurt in campaign
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>>175951257
I've never been able to get firebomb throwers to work. They just seem so bad.
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>>175953683
shit lol started without u
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>>175953693
increased upkeep for minotaurs
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>>175949406
>Bonus points to Kemmler's chaos tomb blade, the regen on that is rather silly if not for the fact you have to engage in melee with him
that's fucking silly, he can never have chaos tomb blade & master of the dead active at the same time.
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>>175951545
That would be cool if they manage to do it.
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>>175951757
Flaming arrows are amazing in Shogun 2 naval battles. They make bow kobaya the single most cost-efficient naval unit in the game because you can swarm enemy ships and burn them to cinders.
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>>175953873
Fairly silly, the item itself isnt all that well done
I think the cloak of mists and shadows in campaign isnt an armor item either, which he'd benefit more from (so you could use a talisman/magic item instead of it)
However, I've won MP battles with my only remaining units fighting off their crumbling damage due to kemmler's sword buff
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>>175953683
Other guy left or something. Shit was laggy af anyways. first time playing multiplayer and i suck, but head to head seems fun because it solves the problem of retarded, cheating AI
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could deathclaw beat dorghar in a fight
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>>175953683
It's 2 players only in both campaign modes unfortunately
Hopefully the vortex campaign in game 2 will make them change their tune and add more players
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>>175949904
ANSWER ME /TEE DUBLYOO JEE/
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>>175954447
Yes, normal Dorghar is just demonic Kokuoh, not the ascended Dorghar though.
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>>175954486
I dream of the possibility of no limits to players in a campaign so every faction is player controlled. Turns will take like a year each prolly, but sounds like it has potential.
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>>175954486
>It's 2 players only in both campaign modes unfortunately
fug, i want whole thread to play together.
>>175954381
ye mp is always laggy
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So the Skaven are going to be added on the map in a style similar to Geheimnisnacht, right? I can't see them holding copious amounts of overworld territory or being a horde.
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Is the Black Coach still a terrible unit?

How am I meant to use it?
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>Let's watch a warhammer multiplayer game
>Video lasts 11 minutes
>5 minutes is literally the guy talking about the map and army comp
>2 more minutes for the positioning
>literally one fucking minute of melee
>2 minutes of units routing and coming back from rout
>1 minute of the guy talking about who got the most kills

We abandoned our historical heritage for this shit?
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>>175950612
>bondage torture pirates
pls
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>>175955337
It gets buffs the longer it remains in melee which is sort of counterproductive for a chariot
at 135 seconds cumulatively (three stages of activation) it has a 44% ward save, Strider (ignores terrain penalties), Magic? + Flaming attacks, extra armor piercing, charge speed and bonus (about 102 bonus I think) and probably some other stuff I'm forgetting
It's not great but you can make it work if you keep it alive with magic
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>>175951425
>Geomantic web
Geomatic Web stance for armies
>allows movement through the geomantic web, but you can be intercepted
;^)
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>>175956279
If it was able to ignore fatigue like grail knights at some point it would actually be fairly decent
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>>175956510
What does fatigue do exactly? What are the negative effects of my units being tired or exhausted?
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How heavy the chaos armor is? It looks stupidly burden.
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>>175956781
Reduces stats, including melee attack/defense and speed
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>>175956872
And armor I think at the point of exhaustion
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>>175956781
halves melee stats at exhausted
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>>175956839
its literally magic armor that is fused to their skin.
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>>175906598
>Settra begging Arkhan to be loyal...again

Why is Settra such a little bitch, even in his own codex?

l2cast faggot
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>>175956872
Thanks.

>>175956839
Pretty heavy I imagine but if you're a chaos warrior you're probably not concerned about how heavy it is.
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>>175957157
>Why is Settra such a little bitch, even in his own codex?
what
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>>175956839
As heavy as the heaviest metal known to man
manowar
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>>175957387
He's a Nagash fanboy.
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>>175957157
Because he's not a true gangstar-necrodancer like muh boi and his bros
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>>175957731
Nope, he begs Arkhan to join him every century or so and when Arkhan inevitably betrays him he continues to beg the Liche king for his loyalty.

Like the beta cuck he is.
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>>175957157
>>175957808

Things that Nagash did:
>tortutred some delf bitches who probably just felt it was like home
>invented some faggotric magic because he was too autist to socialize

Things that settra did:
>beat the shit out of everyone else without any kind of faggotry
>was an alpha male
>created the only kingdom/empire that could even be mentioned as a rival to elven realms
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>>175958183
He too wanted to be a part of the gang
But who'd blame him for that?
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Sometimes you just need a siege battle by the sunset
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>>175957808
Why is Nagash so big compared to all the other necromancers?

What did he do to make his body way bigger?

Is it even his body?
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>>175958258
>be settra
>be all tough shit and all
>get btfo by muh boi
>be muh boi
>invent undead
>do cool shit
>become a death god
>>175958640
Eat big-get big. Those are THE gangster gains, bruh. Bitch ass manlets should know that their place is under muh boi and his gang of brothefs.
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D-Did I at least put up a good fight, /twg/-san?
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>>175958258
Things Settra did:
>beat some primitive desert tribes into submission
>killed his own sons to beg the gods for their power
>Started a death cult because he was afraid to die and was too stupid to learn how magic works

What Nagash did:
>Become the most powerful sorcerer in existence
>Single handedly completed the path to true immortality
>Shoved his did in the mouth of the gods for taking the power from mortals and demanding sacrifice.
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Karl Franz is a gay fag baby.
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>>175958640
He is a disembodied spirit who is gorged on mortal souls and one with the wind of death.

He isn't really there, you could disrupt his form but his spirit is eternal.
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>>175959263

t. Boris
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>>175959263
>t. manlet von cuckstein
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>>175959032
ye, That is actually pretty good. Now sent your doom stack to finish em off.
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>>175956839
It is stupidly heavy, but part of being a Chaos Warrior is that the armor literally becomes a part of you. They no longer need to eat, sleep, or masturbate so the only thing left to do is try and achieve daemonhood.
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>>175959351
haha that language is so weird

letters are all backwards
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>>175959263
karl ZOGGIN' franz
what a LOSER
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>>175959613
how do slaaneshi warriors rape

do they have armored dicks?
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>>175960418
They have barbwired dicks and pussies lined with razors.
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Sieges are fun!

FUN!
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Thanks for nothing you useless sack of shit reinforcing AI army
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>>175958640
He drank his milk.
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>>175957097
>>175957268
>>175959613
>>175957582
all of this strings together is kinda.. explained it for me perfectly, Thanks.
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>>175960613

A shamefur dispray.

Cancel the alliance with them this instant.
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>>175960613
>>175960893
Useless, those Satake bastards.
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Are you all looking to Hell Pit monsters that refuse to fucking die?
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>>175955337
it's not bad, but requires so much babysitting you might as well spend the 1.2k somewhere else
>>
How does "control large army" checkbox work in warhammer? It seems like AI always spawns 40 units and this option works only for my army, or am I wrong?
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Fuck the Empire and fuck Karl Franz.

First time playing beastmen, I was playing as Morghur the Shadowgave and I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

It was turn 25 and I thought I was doing fine, I destroyed Marienburg and I was going to attack Bretonnia when suddenly fucking Karl Franz showed up out of nowhere. I couldn't run away because I was sieging the Bretonnian capital and both Leoncoeur (Plus his insane garrison) and Karl Franz attacked me at the same time. I lost the fight but I tried to save as many units as possible. It didn't matter because my horde got wiped out anyway.

What am I supposed to do when playing beastmen? I was investing most of my skill points into the blue tree because I want the extra upkeep/recruit/raze/raiding gold.
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>>175960613
>>175961098
I always thought yari samurai were dogshit, why are you using them? Are they actually good?

Naginata samurai are cool though
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>>175961371
>this option works only for my army
Exactly that
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>>175961496
>he underestimated the greatest spiral warrior of the old world
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>>175961496
For starters, don't siege a main faction's capital at turn 25

Like, what the fuck? go raid and pillage minor settlements until you can get more than a single decent hordes going
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>>175961496
Be at peace, for that is all I ever want.
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>>175961625
They probably are, idk. This is like my third time playing Shogun 2.

Also, HELP.
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What would Karl's theme song be?
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>>175959351
Fucking Mannfred, if he really wanted to be a Incarnate he could have taken the Beast or Fire wind like a cool guy bur instead he had to be a edgy faggot. Vlad was too soft on him.
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>>175958640
It's Volkmar's body.

I'm serious.
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>>175963321
is he friends with sigmar in AoS?

I read in one of these threads that archaon (who isn't a god) beat nagash and captured him
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>>175963117

Unironically this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO_UqoIDJO0
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>>175963803
Was for a bit, fucked Sigmar over soon as he could. AOS lore actually has potential imo, interested in where it ends up after a couple of years.
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>>175962249
You're fuckin' dead, kisama
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>>175963803
This?

No way Archaon won this battle, right?
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Old Friend?
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>>175964412
> that chaos-headed dragon
lul
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>>175964412
>>175964503

>no Slaanesh head

Is (s)he, dare I say, a shit?
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>>175964441
Next week for sure, 100%, no doubt about it. Think positive.
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>>175964503
>>175964604
cant have a slaneeshi head cause it would just be a giant jizz spewing bellend
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>>175964908
but THERE IS a slaaneshi head

get it

it's dorghar's dick

HAHA
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>>175965178

10/10, Anon, you should be a comedian.
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>>175965178
>implying archaon isnt sat on the slaneeshi head
>>
How the hell do you launch Divide and Conquer through Steam
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>>175963917
>tfw for a second there thought that Karl was fighting a old chaos champion with a REALLY hunched back
I'm fucking dumb.
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>>175964412
I think that dragon has autism
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>>175963917
>Guns, Drums & Steel
>Gunpowder, Faith & Steel
wtf!
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Nothing like a quiet walk in the forest.
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>>175964604
slaanesh got "captured" in AoS because they're not child friendly enough.
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>>175963917
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vYbu9XMXvE
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Who is the Venice of Warhammer?
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>>175967039
Karak Ziflin
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>>175967039
border princes
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>>175967039
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_League_of_Cambrai

TL;DR?
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>>175967039
Reminder that even Venice is better than Genoa.
>>
How do the fuck do I get my Dorf vassal to colonize that orc settlement above Marienburg when Bretonnia always razes it turn 2?
>>
>>175967389
>>175967473

>Pope Julius II, intending to curb Venetian influence in northern Italy, had created the League of Cambrai, an anti-Venetian alliance consisting of himself, Louis XII of France, Ferdinand II of Aragon and Maximilian I, the Holy Roman Emperor. Although the League was initially successful, friction between Julius and Louis caused it to collapse by 1510; Julius then allied himself with Venice against France.

>The Veneto–Papal alliance eventually expanded into the Holy League, which drove the French from Italy in 1512; disagreements about the division of the spoils, however, led Venice to abandon the alliance in favor of one with France. Under the leadership of Francis I, who had succeeded Louis to the throne, the French and Venetians would, through victory at Marignano in 1515, regain the territory they had lost; the treaties of Noyon and Brussels, which ended the war the next year, would essentially return the map of Italy to the status quo of 1508.

>it was LITERALLY about the money and land
>>
what's the purpose of marauder horsemasters?

I don't see why you'd ever want to use them over axe throwing marauder cav
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>"Lend me your calcium, /twg/!
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>>175967794
fucking venice man

they were always starting stupid wars for money
>>
>playing Angrund
>try to lure Skarsnik into a fight with 2 allied armies
>lightning strike
FUCKING GOBBOS
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>>175968063
still waiting on someone to do a recolour of dragon ogres so they look like their models.
>>
>>175968551
out
fucking
schemed
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I can't wait to get my hands on lizardmen.

Elves get out!
>>
>>175968617

Their models look like shit though

What's with the t-rex arms?
>>
>>175968740
>vlad declares war on me
>karak norn decides to not help me
>crooked moon traitors beelining my settlement
WHAT'S HAPPENING
>>
Can anyone tell me how I change up mods in my load order for Warhammer? I got some campaign and AI overhauls, but suddenly one mod that stops agents spamming the fuck out of me quit working, and sure as shit, turn after turn "blocked army, assassination, etc"
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>>175970160
>how I change up mods in my load order for Warhammer?
You can only change the name of their file to add a @, #, ~ or any symbol

Doing this will download the mod again, so you'll have to disable the mod (and enable the copy with the symbol)
>>
>>175969484
Aren't you the faggot that wiped out the Dwarfs?

Serves you right faggot
>>
>>175970862

So its really as simple as going into the data, finding the mod, renaming it, and thats it?
>>
>>175929756
/qst/ is great for keeping shitters out of /tg/.
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>>175972074
This. /tg/ is so good these days without quest threads.
>>
>>175971635
should be, yes, but Steam is retarded and will redownload the mod, so disable the original mod

they will load in the order they display in their file
>>
Why do you care so much about Old Friend? Just some minor FLC, it's no big deal.
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>>175972663
>muh boi
>minor FLC
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>>175972663
Because the thread only devolves into sheer shitposting without new content to talk about

TWW:2 news are too far away to speculate about
New historic title too
And Artwork is not enough
Only the Old Friend can save /twg/
>>
>>175972663

Because total war warhammer is a shit game that is only interesting when new content is released
>>
>>175973083
Or destroy it entirely
>>
>>175973083
Except like half the shitposting is about Old Friend. At this point it isn't new content that would save us, it's taking away the shitposting topic.
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>>175958183
What
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Is there any fucking mod that teaches Norsca to build balanced armies instead of Marauder horsmen to anger me and shitload of chariots to ruin my day.
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>>175975454
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION!
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>>175958392
>He too wanted to be a part of the gang
Didn't he reject this though? Same thing when was offered power from the chaos gods. He rejected it, no?
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>>175961298
There is a solution to that.
>>
I am the wild rover!
>>
So where is the dragon of the empire? Why is it not in the game?
>>
>play Beastmen legendary
>encamp
>AI attacks me anyway
So what's the point of being invisible if AI is going to cheat anyway.
Fuck this game
>>
>>175975454
Do you also want a mod that doesn't let Empire factions build greatswords, or Orcs build Black Orcs?

Chariots are the best unit Norsca gets and without them they are total pushovers.
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>>175975548
Yes, Settra does not serve, Settra rules, so good luck trying to vassalize Tomb Kings, best you can hope for is a military alliance.
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Im sad TWG, just lost 2 steam tanks in a battle against a 3 large chaos stacks. I name my tanks and I grew attached to all of them, i lost Katherine and Vlad, only have Victoria and Tsar Left now... RIP
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do i have to disable the better camera mod to find matches in quick battle?
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>>175976558
Orcs and empire builds more balanced armies. Pushovers ? I mean they are dirty barbarians who just spam countless hordes of armies in later turns. And Chariot is not Black Orc. It is fast have high HP and what's most problematic it has high Mass which makes it hard to stop. I hate to fight army with 6-10 Chariots it's just boring. Army and battle look like one big mess. They just ride around and I struggle to catch them and kill them unless I have more of units that are good versus that target. I have never seen Empire or Orcs spamming one unit like that so don't tell me about blocking Greatsword or Black Orc units.
They are supposed to be minor threat or inconvinience not constant annoying chariot race.
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>>175978326
yes no mods allowed
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>>175978326
Go to public games if you can join them it means you can play QB.
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>>175976290
I think if they see you encamp they'll know where you are
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>>175978372
>I have never seen Empire or Orcs spamming one unit like that
I've had similar experiences with Boar Cav.

It was so frustrating to deal with because I wasnt thinking and hadnt brought many slayers along.
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>>175978713
this is useless then, AI is everywhere
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>>175978873
Maybe try hiding in the woods? I dunno if they'll follow you there. I haven't played a lot of the beastmen campaign.
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>>175978791
I dont know man I beat Very hard and Legendary campagins as dwarfs. Cavalry was never such big problem as those big Chaos chariots. It annoys me the most is that I am currently playing Von Carnsteins on very hard and I dont have Blood Knights to recruit. Only 1 unit that Vlad had. So it is pain to deal with chariots with just Black Knights and some infatry.
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>>175979124
unfortunately they did follow me in the woods
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>>175979473
Well fuck, then maybe we're missing something. I dunno what good it would be, then.
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>>175950612
>spinning the mega campaign as free dlc

fuck off
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>>175961625
I've found Yari samurai to be overall excellent, especially later on in a fight when their ability can tip the scale.
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>>175976558
>two squads of warriors and 17 chariots
>chariots all go around the same flank and try to engage two lines of halberdiers
>all of them eventually route after the hero and marauders die
>can't kill them because these sturdy ass chariots don't give a shit and they all escape
>can't instagib them with autoresolve because this giant stack of full strength chariots reads as a completely red bar
I just want chaos to leave
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Are you supposed to be really fast in a vampire campaign?

Because I'm at 130+ turns, have only got 8 out of the required 20 provinces and Chaos has started to invade in earnest. The Empire is a fucking wasteland and I can see where this campaign is heading:

>have to colonise/conquer another 12 provinces
>while defending and pushing back chaos
>while spreading corruption enough so that you don't have rebellions everywhere

Is this normal or have I just been really slow? Because if this is what the rest of the campaign is gonna be like, that may just be the single most fucking tedious TW campaign I've ever seen desu
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>>175980158
someone just needs to make a mod where the norscan shits just spam marauders and throw multiple armies at you, instead of this mad max shit we have now, its fucking ridiculous especially as dwarfs
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>>175959351
fucking ryssä in my general
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>>175980318
Maybe TW:WH 2 will add demons!
I would take bloodletter or plaguebearer spam over the chariot racing team!
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>>175928714
I don't even understand the balance behind bestigors, I'd much rather have had less armor to an appropriate amount, better melee skill and defense skill, and a red tree skill for them in campaign, but hey here's your beastmen with better than grestsword armor, they'll need it since they will get hit by everything
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>>175979751
I lost my herd 2 times now, it wouldn't be a problem if you DIDN'T FUCKING LOSE ALL BUILDINGS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCKING HORDE MECHANIC
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>>175980158
>>175980318

Have you guys tried this? I've been using it and it made Chaos more tolerable.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200
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>>175962249
>defender battles
I know I'm way too late, but defending a japanese castle is actually fucking neat as fuck. Fall back to inner tiers with archer units, put chaff on the walls to slow them down, and force them to climb the walls all the way to your actually good units
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>>175979291
Skelly spearmen, also blob up and spam invocation of nehek.
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motherfucker dodges a fucking laser, wtf is this
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>>175981158
H-he's fast!
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>>175976290
If the ai walks too close to the encampent they'll detect it. The trick is camping somewhere that's out of the way you'd think the ai would take. Don't camp in roads, in direct routes between cities, on the path an army was following, etc. Always go off the way, or the ai might just walk into you by chance and fuck your shit.
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>>175981158
nothin personnell...beast
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>>175981158
how do i play elves, they are so fucking uncomfy.
Retarded rebellions all game long, shitty undefendable settlements...
just fuck me up senpai
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>>175982250
about settlements, you can just cheese the retarded AI(VH) by hiding in the trees and wait for a time-over
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>>175980249
>Are you supposed to be really fast in a vampire campaign?
>Because I'm at 130+ turns, have only got 8 out of the required 20 provinces
You've been really slow, corruption is exponential because the more provinces you take the more bonuses you get in adjacent provinces.

Only ever done 1 vamp campaign but I'm currently on turn 40 and I'm about to siege Altdorf and wipe out empire.

There's no point turtling if you can build elite armies instantly once you get some corpse mounds up.
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>>175961371
limits it to 20 units on the field at one time - if the ai has more, they will slowly trickle in as units rout off of the field
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>>175982636
>>175980249
i won legendary Von Carstein campaign and until turn 183 i only had Sylvania, get on my level nerds
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>>175982636

Yeah, I suspected I had been to slow. I also didn't realize, at first, that you could get elite units from corpse mounds.

Welp, guess I'll have to try again, cause I can't deal with this tedium.
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>>175980249
>>175982938
Yeah I am just doing Very Hard Von Carstein and I am on 183 turn. I have only 5/20 provinces. I took all bottom provinces of Empire and whole Sylvania. Now I am fighting for dominance with hordes of chaos on ruins of the Empire. Bretonnia is dead before I even got there. I order one agent to go there so I can check who finished them. I just checked and Empire somehow survived on the lands of Border Princesess.
Vlad best Carnstein.
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>>175983513
>Vlad best Carnstein.
Of course he is, who else would be?
Mannlet the cancer patient?
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>That moment when you click toggle mount by mistake in the middle of maneuvering your cavalry.
Time to reload.
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>>175982250
Either
>kill other factions from the get go
>do diplomacy with elves
>make do with glade guard for ages and upgrade oak of ages ASAP for confeds

Or
>recruit some extra lords on first 2 turns
>farm rebels for the first turns whilst going for max growth in your 1 settlement - make sure you're killing & spawning a new rebel stack every turn. Always release captives.
>colonise a single settlement to unlock growth tech
>when the time is close to upgrade your settlement to rank 3 siege somewhere juicy with your 3 beefed up lords and raze it for dosh
>spend all the money to get elite troop buildings
>use elite troops & high level lords to take out the other entrenched elf factions
I did the latter and I've taken all of Athel Loren by turn 30 and all my lords are level 15.

I think getting the elite troops was pretty overkill though, I mainly did it because I'm not that confident playing elves yet. If you level up a treeman ancient you could probably just rely on dryads instead and take the whole of Athel Loren straight away.
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>>175982938
But why?

You can get all your elite troops by like turn 40 and then what's the point in turtling anymore?
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>>175982615
>wood elves combat doctrine:
>hide in trees until they go away
sounds about right
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>>175983908
it's hard to keep everything in check, dwarfs, all the empire flavors of different factions.
If i leave Sylvania i get 4 stacks of dwarfs immediately. Then random war declarations out of the blue, rebellions etc.
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>>175983908
Have you played Legendary campagin as Carnsteins ? Elite troops by 40 ?
They have really shitty starting position. You dont have Drakenhof or Templehof. Manlet is on verge of attacking you. Empire provinces can easly declare war on you in first 20 turns. You have only Shwartzhafen and it's almost impossible to unite starting province since Templehof has quite strong garisson + enemy lord army is roaming around and you can't get strong units fast because you are really poor.
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>>175984415
>Templehof has quite strong garisson + enemy lord army is roaming around and you can't get strong units fast because you are really poor.
not that anon but nah, you can kill eradicate Templehof by turn 7. Yes, on legendary.
Mannlet is a problem though, he camps Drakenhof constantly and AI declares wars like retarded
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>>175984728
By turn 7 I had war with Manfred and Averland. I had to defend my shitty hole. Before I forced peace treaty upon them Empire took over Templehof.
>kill eradicte
Are you Scaven ?
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>>175985158
>kill eradicte
>Are you Scaven ?
w-what, n-no no i am not.
What is a Skaven even, not real...

man-thing
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>>175984415
Ally with mannfred, war with stirland, when he takes the moot betray him and force a peace treaty
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>>175985623
>Ally with mannfred
What.Before I beat him in 2-3 battles he didnt even wanted peace treaty or non agression pact. I only won because for some reason he sent all his armies to north and I had his province as easy target.
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>>175975454
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=787066965
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Time to raze the world with my best buddy Archie.

POOPOO PEEPEE
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>Playing Empire on VH
>Just secured Reikland and Confederated Wissenland.
>Building up my buildans
>Out of fucking nowhere Bretonnia declares war on me, and sends Their king with a 20 stack into Reikland.
>Absolutely destroy his shit with Karl, using my Reiksgard to rek his grail knights and other knights
Holy shit, I thought Grail Knights were practically the Space Marines of Fantasy. Demi-gods right? And they got fucked by some normal ass cav.
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>>175986740
They're equivalent to space marines in the fluff.
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>>175986740
You either totaly outnumbered his Grail Knights or he did some pretty fucking stupid tactic.
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>>175987076
All I did was use my halberds to fight them, then ram my reiksgard into their rear.
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Why is warhammer so boring bros?
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>>175987163
So no wonder when you hold them with good Anti large armor piercing infantry and then attacked in the rear with cav. Grail Knights are Shock Cav after all so they are not that great in prolonged combat.
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>>175987329
I guess that makes sense. I just think it is kind of dissapointing. Those grail knights quested for years to drink from the holy grail and become demo-gods, only to get destroyed by some regular dudes with halberds.
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>>175986740
I had tons of fun with Steel Faith Overhaul's changes for the Grail Knights and Grail Guardians. They were super expensive, but basically without peer until I hit Chaos. I really enjoy the overall rebalance done by Steel Faith to be honest, it makes elite units in general much more impactful.
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>>175987454
>>175987329
> tfw gonna ride across the ocean to ZEE LADY all over some lizards and dark elves and everyone else in TW2
holy crusade when
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>>175987454
The Halberdiers were probably also drunk off their asses as well
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>>175987504
I WAS playing with steel faith overhaul. This is why I am so disappointed haha.
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>>175987583
>TFW you leave Bretonnian lands and halfway to Lustria Norsca tribes and Elves + some random breastman/orc band destroys your kingdom.
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>>175987608
Holy shit man, well I don't know then. The single unit of 26 Grail Knights pulled off some truly super human shit in my Bretonnia game. In the decisive battle against The Red Duke I had them charge balls deep straight into the thousands of Grave Guards across the field. They stayed their the whole battle smiting and enduring for zee lady.
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>>175987861
Maybe because the AI is retarded and charged them head on into my line of halberds? They also got peppered a tad by handgunners overlooking my line from a hill, but I thought Grail Knights were kind of bulletproof.
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>>175987802
damn, it's nice people use my meme
feels gud
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>>175984415
IIRC Mannlet usually leaves early to fight templehoff and you can just kick the shit out of him and take Drakenhoff really quickly.

If you start with Issabella you can recruit Vlad for free on turn 1 and just decimate shit with 2 really strong hero units.
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>>175988129
They have tons of armor, shields, and 10% physical resistance, but the high handgunner AP damage can still soften them up if they are exposed to fire for too long. That coupled with some prolonged fighting vs. dedicated cavalry troops who cancel their awesome charge bonus and a powerful shock unit hitting their rear does make sense. The AI really just used them awfully.
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>>175983780
>trying my own advice to see if it actually works because I haven't tried.

trying to take Athel Loren on turn 10 with my buffed up trees.
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>>175988708
shit, accidentally force marched Durthu when I didn't need to. This might be fucked.
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>>175988708
>>175989065
> Treehilter falling for the Blitzkrieg meme and overextending

Literal pottery
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>play dwarfs
>every fight for 60 turns has been just forming into a big block, formation locking every unit, and then inching it forward until the artillery is in range before going AFK
This is the retard faction isn't it
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>>175986475
>grimgor in the middle of nowhere in badland
>top knotz deep in the mountains
>red fangs still have plenty of lands
One interesting campaign you got there
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Is Wrath of Sparta worth buying?

Taking a course in Greek History right now, and i'm falling in love with the setting.
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OI YOO STUNTIES
eres wunna dem book fings fer ya
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>>175990213
I have no idea but I am planning to play it soon. The vanilla campaign apparently isn't very good. However, there is a history autism overhaul for it with lots of work put into it, and it gives me hope. DEI also changes the campaign into a Rome-Macedonian War campaign, which sounds fun. Definitely wait until another sale hits.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=656921464&searchtext=
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>>175989808
>VC
>doesn't matter which
>blob up when lines connect
>engage lords/heroes in melee if they're not necros
>invocation of nehek
>win

Retards wouldn't think to play to the dorfs strengths, they would just throw them into melee and call it a day.
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>>175989808
against the ai, yeah - although the biggest ezmode faction in the game is by far the vamp cunts
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Well that was messy as shit

Would've been 100 times easier if I didn't accidentally march Durthu, he got shat on by units he usually smashes to bits.

Dryads were fucking sick though. 1 unit of them took on a unit of wildwood rangers & eternal guard and beat them both.
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>>175991362
They're pretty good. I had problems with them routing quite a bit, though.
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Is it just me...or can anyone else NOT play as barbarian factions? It just seems so...out of place watching them conquer half the map. There to be subjected, and killed, nothing more.
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Which do you prefer?

>fighting hordes/multiple armies of low-mid tier troops with some elite stuff sprinkled in (vamps, beastmen, greenskins)
>fighting an army full of top-tier units (dwarfs, chaos)
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>>175992181
Fighting as those things or going up against them?
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>>175992107
No, I'm not autistic
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>Completed
>WRE
>ERE
>Sassanids
>Franks

what next?
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>>175993248
Visigoths
hard mode: save and defend the WRE
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>>175993248
Alamans

Or Alans

Whichever one is the cav heavy one

>take north most settlement
>enjoy open fields for days as you run down your enemies
>eventually get to have glorious 20v20 cav battles against Attila in perfect flat terrain
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Ok well this worked pretty well.

Finding it hard to judge how well I can do in elf vs. elf battles though. With most other factions you play vs your own roster fuckloads so you get an eye for how many units you need, but whenever I play elves I always end up over-recruiting for elf vs. elf battles and wasting money.
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>>175992181
I want both, Warhammer only offers the first.

We need two separate leader types; Officers and Generals. Officers cannot reinforce, and can only hold 9 units. Generals act like the generals we have now, but their cost is far more expensive. Both get capped like an agent.
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>Make a ship called the Unsinkable
>It sinks
>Make an airship called the Indestructible
>It crashes

Lel manlets when will they learn?
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Best Knightly Order?
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>>175994894
REIKSGUARD KNIGHTS
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>>175994974
t.Franz

White wolves are where it's at.
I am being impartial.
>>
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>>175995251
>Empire still has no access to Lore of Death
Damn it all
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Demigryph Knights!
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>turn 40
>dwarfs manage to wreck my position in the badlands
>friendship has ended with grimgor
>the bloody handz must travel north to survive, and make friends with skarsnik instead (even if I confederated to currently hold K8P)
I don't know if I'm gonna make it guys
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How do you launch Divide and Conquer through Steam? It just launches base Third Age pls
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>>175994974
I want an edit of the Mordor battle scene in Return of the King, replacing all the characters with Reiksguard, and the leader (Aragorn) looks back and says "For Franz" before charging in.
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>>175995696
They may be Demigryphs, but they are full sex.
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Which bretonnian faction should I play for my first playthrough of TWW? I've started a campaign of each of the races to get a feel of each one, and I wanna go on a glorious crusade with Bretonnia first.
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>>175996881
Leon is the sort of generic strong melee leader. Good pick if you want to watch your lord smash faces.

Alberic is more of a support leader, since he has great buffs for some troop types. He also makes mad dosh which means you can use more higher tier troops earlier. But he can fight pretty well too.

Fay spams heals and deals stupid damage with her passive AoE damaging ability.
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THE TEMPLEHOF LUMINARK
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convince me, a historyautist, to give warhammer a try
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>My autism demands I speed level Volkmar and Gelt for their office titles
At least Grand Theogonist is only level 5
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>>175997423
It can be dare I say, fun.
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>>175997423
the warham races are thinly veiled caricatures of historical nations and thus you should feel right at home playing them.
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>>175997573
That's Arch Lector, not Grand Theogonist, something else which triggers my autism.
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Does Warhammer have the generals/commanders giving speeches before battle outside of the artifact quests?
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>>175997687
Odd. Must be something one of my mods is changing for me without being in their changelogs.
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>>175997148
It was so hard for me to choose between vigour loss reduction and pimping out the port (sucks that if you do that he's stuck in Bordelaux, unless you grabbed marienburg).
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>>175997423
You have a mighty need for SCHEMES anon. You cannot deny it any longer.
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>>175997648
Which nation does Crooked Moon represent?
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>>175997423
Bretonnia is basically Medieval II knights DEUS VULTing against the hordes of hell
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>>175953783
They work like the ones in M2tw. You have to have clear sight of the target and stand still for like 10 seconds before anything happens. If they are attacked then they have problems because when they move ranks they reset the 10 seconds.
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>>175997857
He also gets a very big bonus to Foot Squires, which makes them pretty god damn good.
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>>175908815
why did this make me laugh

now I'm imagining a random autist in the street shouting dwarf anthems
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>>175998000
British football hooligans
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>>175997423
Empire and dwarfs are perfect for pike and shot practice, all things considered, just set up the relevant formations yourself, beastmen are an allegory for the barbarians that sacked Rome, and if you want a more classic medieval faction just play Brets.
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>>175995414
>wanting to give the empire access to lore of death now that fate of bjuna/spirit leech are good again

THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>175998109
I ended up going full knights with a small anvil because of the peasant economy.
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>>175997423
history and fantasy can coexist
>>175904854
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>>175911749
>>175916247
I haven't given up. This doesn't end until Archaon is dead, or the entire Empire is burnt.

I'm gonna blaze a path up through Black Fire and hope the Von Carsteins haven't spooked the whole joint up. I was hoping I could keep this a one-army horde for thematic purposes, but this entire fuck-up expedition means I need a permanent buffer army to throw at shit, at least until it's nothing but triple gold chev CHOSEN
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>>175998335
>Implying I care about it being shit or not
Mate, it just bothers me that all the other schools of magic have some sort of representative in the faction, save for Amethyst
All orders have wizard agents, except Gold, which has masketta man
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Men of Sylvania!
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>>175999771
Stand proudly beside your skeletal comrades
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Okay not too sure what to make of blitz strat for elves.

You get way more income early on and you can get insane growth on all your provinces (every province will be tier 3 by turn 25), but the amount of amber you need to keep up with the growth rate is fucking insane.

Compared to confed strat it's not particularly comfy as your forced to get amber every turn to stop growth going to waste.
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>>175999882
for the good of the whole Empire
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>>176000012
WE SHALL TRIUMPH
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>>175999882
>>176000012
>>176000151
That is EXTRA heretical!
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>tfw no fantasy sabaton to play while I play as the Empire
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>>175999982
Just acquire more treebensraum to satiate your war economy
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>>175998995
Sweet!
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Rule Britannia!
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how tf is Estalia a threat to the Lizardmen? Super powerful Slann Mage-Priests able to sink whole continents into oceans, skinks hiding in bushes shooting poison blowdarts at random fuckers slowly whittling down your army, Saurus warriors with thick hides and incredible skill with mace and cleaver, Kroxigors capable of ripping men in half and lifting horses like grocery bags, raptor cavalry, massive dinosaurs with lasers on their backs, and other horrors versus a bunch of haggard conquistadors using medieval era technology low on food and supplies.
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>>176000472
It just makes me sad to see that the game's engine had standards and musicians years ago, and got dumbed down to the current state.
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>>176000831
and officers
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>>176000915
It's just sad.
Warhammer units would be perfect with all those things.

If you want to find out what teh next TW will be, just as yourself how to get there with the maximum amount of recycling, minimum amount of new content and as many cut corners as possible.
Minimal viability, fuck bugfixing or actual quality, just make the suits and shareholders happy.
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which warhammer faction should I play to get me invested in the game
I can't start a campaign keep on it for the life of me
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How the fuck do you get those barricades for your ranged units in Shogun 2 campaign?
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It's a long way to Karak Eight Peaks,
It's a long way to go.
It's a long way to Bugman's Brewery,
To the greatest ale I know!
Goodbye, Karak Izor,
Farewell, Karak Norn!
It's a long long way to Karak Eight Peaks,
But my heart's right there.
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>>176002048
I believe you only get them if you are attacked in the field
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Which LL is actually pretty bro towards his soldiers?
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>>176002181
>franz
>belegar
>durthu is probably related to some of the tree units
>sigvald is very close with some of his men's assholes
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>>175968896

>that webm

y tho
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>>176002454
>Sigvald
BY THE COMET
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>>176000831
>dumbed down
They added literally fucking nothing.
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I was reading the Liber Chaotica and it basically confirms that Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k are the same universe, yet I've read before that they're definitely now?
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>>176003530
>>>/tg/
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>>176003530
definitely not*

also pretty sure that guy is a Chaos Space Marine
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>>175998995
>>176000460
As luck would have it, a combo Angrund/Italia attack wiped my second stack as soon as I made landfall in what used the be the Border Princes, so I'm back to just Archaon and the boys again. Finally buckled down and got the Slayer of Kings and the Armor of Morkar, with a heroic and phyrric victory respectively. As soon as I came around the corner into Black Fire, pic happened and I spat a curse at Tzeentch. The bird-fucker is fucking with me from beyond the grave.

He owns almost everything on a eastern line from Grunberg across to East Sylvania, with the northern parts of Talabecland and Ostermark unknown but assumed to be spoopy. After I finish Archaon's quests, I'm half tempted to completely switch my army composition to half normal CHOSEN, half GIANTS for an easier go at it.
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>>176003025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iJrrTr5Anw
It's Jodorowsky anon, shit rarely makes sense.
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>>176003640
vlad is going to dad-dick you
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>>176003640
Thanks for not giving up on the campaign dude, I'm gonna have to remember suggesting badlands as a troll/hardmode option when ever suggesting Chaos.
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>>176004326
Eh, if you know how to fight greenies it's easy enough; the hard part comes in that you're nowhere near Norsca, have no local allies other than random Beastman spawns, and everyone down there comes to hate you REAL quick. You don't get any room to breathe unless you back off north into Italia/Estalia, and there you still have the same issues.

'cept the Dawi are pretty bro, all things considered. The actual Dwarfs, not Nohammer. My rep with them is 44 and dropping by only -2 because of all the Greenskin slaying I've done.

>>176004252
Vlad has no fucking idea what's coming for him, he burns just as well as anyone else. Maybe even better, given he's so desiccated.
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>>176004970
Kek, alright I'll keep that in mind.
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>>176004970
>'cept the Dawi are pretty bro, all things considered

DAWI ZHARR
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>show me the accused
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>>176005668
>witch hunter strides across the battlefield
>comes face-to-face with a favored Greater Daemon of Tzeentch
>as he feels his sanity being pulled apart by the very essence of Chaos generated by this being, he still remembers his purpose
>extends arms and aims pointer finger directly at the Daemon
>"HERETIC"
>Sarthorael is dragged back screaming into the Realm of Chaos, unable to return for 999 years
>before the portal closes his final shriek is heard in every tongue that has ever been spoken in the Old World
Just As Planned!
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>>176006071
> Was being banished part of your plan?
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ASININE MORTAL
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>>176007169
SQUAAAWK!
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>>175995251
In before it's Disappointment.
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>>175963135
He did it because he was afraid of the world if Nagash won more than he was afraid of the Chaos gods.

He basically decided to fuck the whole world rather than live underneath the tyranny of Nagash. It would be noble if we didn't already know that the Incarnates are indestructible and Nagash will pluck his pale ass out of the warp personally to pay for his betrayal anyway.

AoS even makes him more of a weeny, because he gets to live long enough to know he can't fight it and he becomes the obedient buttslave he was always afraid of becoming.
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Huns or White Huns?
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>>176004252

what do you mean dad-dick

I am not english native speaker

how do you know father cock?
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>>176010490
If it ain't white, it ain't right.
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>>176010741
But they're both asian
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>>176010779
Exactly.

Play something else.
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>>176010802
Like what?
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>>176010917
Franks.
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>dwarves wrecking chaos on the other ide of the map
>I don't get to fight sarthoreal or archaon
I just wanted to rumble with chaos damnit, I'm stuck deleting vargs up north and it's no fun
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>>176010948
>just got done playing the franks
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>>176011173
Visigoths.
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Most fun VH campaign I have ever had, thanks to these mods:

> AI Campaign Balance
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892763102

> AI Buildings and Recruitment
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200

> Tier 4 Minor Settlements
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700071210

+ Reduced agent spam

A few threads back somebody recommended this setup, and they were absolutely right.

-AI is less schizophrenic when it comes to diplomacy
-More aggressive towards their natural enemies, less aggressive towards obvious friends
-Less tolerant of beastmen raiding
-Values survival of its armies vs. being annoying for no reason, not nearly as many 'suicide small stacks'
-Creates legitimately effective armies with higher tech level units, if available
-Actually defends their minor settlements against incursion vs. other ai
-Can't spam agents unless they actually have the buildings to support them.

After a few false starts as Angrund, I learned how to properly micro the ghost dorfs. Then it was fuckhuge 1v2 fights forever. I picked up two tormentor swords in the first 20 turns, so I'm sure that helped quite a bit, but it as a still a challenging experience. Wound up using units that I never bothered with before since I needed so much aoe.

2x flame cannons, 2x gyrobombers(skyhammer+1), 2x irondrake(skolder+1) vs. greenskin spam. Really fucking fun, even though it took a long time to get the tech that high because of shit economy. I didn't capture 8 peaks till turn 80 because of so much orc spam. Had to conquer and raze my way to its doorstep, fighting tooth and nail the whole way.
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>>176011885

(continued)

Downsides:

Because AI armies are better, military alliance is pretty much broken OP. Especially if you ally with an empire faction.

Bad guys snowball much more quickly, and much harder, if left unchecked. Waagh spam is pretty much guaranteed.

If you aren't playing empire, and the empire wins against vampires, they will probably shut down the chaos invasion on their own without help.(upside maybe?)
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>>176003636

They may have used to have been but GW has moved hard to make sure that 40k wasn't warhammer fantasy in space and to separate them.

Earliest versions and the Hrud were space skaven, now they are weird entropy-emanating lanky armed and legged spindly freaky things with bulbous eyes.

>>176000831

The code seems to exist within the game, it's just a question of being able to have the animations or the sound tiein where near the musician you'd hear _____ sounds.
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I suppose he will bring with him, an army of chariots!

Elector Counts, I dare say that would be quite a feat, even for the great Surtha Ek
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>>176012383

Why did GW get so mad about it all of a sudden?
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>>176012383

>No way guys its not warhammer fantasy in space! its totally original and its own setting, with a few similar thematic elements only!

>Now watch as we destroy WH fantasy and replace it with Medieval WH40k!
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Is there a single employee of GW that isn't completely retarded?
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Anybody got an album of warhammer art or something? I'm making a mod that change all lord's unit card and porthole to an art version of them, Turn out it is a lot harder to find just the right picture for the lords even LLs.

I mean even Grimgor had only one art of him and Kholek only had a low quality pixelated one art of him, form what I found on internet so far.
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I don't think this is the real Surtha Ek.
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>>176013810

ASININE COMPREHENSION
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>>176002057
That's a good song anon.
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>>176011885
>>176012302
Might give this a go for my next campaign then.
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>>175959351
I bet mannfred and his other army has mostly zombie and skeletons.
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>>175904179
playing chaos campaign and chaos warriors are slow as fuck. They have no "real" missile infantry and I have to spend point in horde growth in order to build buildings.
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Am i the only one who prefers the regular VC to the von Carsteins?
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>>176011885
Will this teach Norsca not to spam CHariots ?
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>>176015794
Kemmler actually had grave guard.
>>176015875
>he doesn't know about Shaggoths
Also remove the marauder building and build chaos warrior one ASAP
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>>176016031
>he doesn't know about Shaggoths
well I can't always rely on shaggoth right? that big guy has no armor and it can still get shot to death despite its 15% missile resistance.
>Kemmler actually had grave guard.
probably just 1 or 2 units. AI don't do elite units that often.
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I'm curious what other unit chaos has missed to make them a complete faction? any unit I should hype about?
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>>176016172
>well I can't always rely on shaggoth right?
you can't rely on A shaggoth, true. You can rely on six shaggoths though.
>1 or 2
There was more, and some black knights with ror, they were the ones that ko'd my zintler's reiksguard.
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>>176016594
>You can rely on six shaggoths though
that's like putting an army full of steam tank in karl's army. That's so cheesy.

>black knights
weak to spear and halberdier, which you apparently had with 75% survived at the end of the battle, probably used on Calvary while avoiding direct fight with actual melee units.
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>>176016861
That's so cheesy.
But anon, it's fun
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>tfw no male heirs

bros im going to cry
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>>176017475
Just keep pounding that pussy. Eventually she'll shit out something with a dick.
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>>176016496
a bunch of daemon shit as well as god-specific units.

I hope that they get fully fleshed out, and the different god units have neat minor differences like frenzy, poison attacks, etc
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>>176002057
>>176013941
>dawi submarine finally makes it back to barak varr after a long time at sea
>entire crew killed by doom diver fire as soon as they disembark
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Old Friend and 1.8 are on the way.
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>>176018515
CORRECTION
>1.8

1.7 not 1.8
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>>176018515

Next week?
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>>176018515
>>176018696
I would guess on the 1yr anniversary of the game's release, which is in 18 days
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>>176018515

grace has been all over reddit trying to tamp down peoples expectations

>possibly not a lord
>possibly not even empire
>coming by itself
>not a huge piece of FDLC

i really hope ca doesn't fuck the empire and not give them an alternate start
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>>176018587
Any hopes for the patch? I really hope they buff Wardancers, Dwarf Warriors with Great Weapons, and Chaos Warriors.

Hopefully they'll reduce or remove the bonus vs infantry of Foot Squires.
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>>176019083
>buffing dwarf warriors w/ great weapons

why?
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>>176019223
>>176019083
>Buffing chaos warriors

why??
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>>176019083
Every single thing you said makes me want to murder you
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>>176018887
Well its their own fucking fault. If they are going to be ambiguous as shit people are going to expect something equal to what they've done before
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>>176019428
the flc chart is a big marketing tool, and they know it

>you now remember that CA added Isabella to the flc array before we even won mwnl
>you now remember that everybody thought that the new vamp lord/old friend was going to be the red duke/boris
>instead we got some cup slut
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>>176019578
Yes its a marketing tool, but they have obviously mismanaged it by having 'Old Friend' as the hint

It could be bloody anything, and considering most of the FLC has been heroes and lords if its anything less than that then people will be pissed.

"Old Friend" comes off as something special, which people assume means more than normal. But its sounding more and more like its going to be something totally pointlesst.
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>>176019578
ISABELLA IS NOT A SLUT FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>176019879
All vampires are sluts, they literally suck all day.
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>>176019879
>be powerful noble daughter of ruling family
>fall in love with vamp guy who turns you into vamp as well
>years later you are still keeping up your looks
>his fucking face is rotting off, his hair is falling off in clumps
>your adopted son is much more handsome, having gone with a striking, hairless look that is much more imposing
>we are somehow supposed to believe that you aren't sleeping with literally anything else besides that half-rotted madman in order to satisfy yourself
>we are supposed to believe that you actually love vlad and his horrific rotting monster-face and aren't just using him for money and power
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>>176019804
After so much time and so many predictions what people want they will be almost certainly dissapointed.
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>>176020113
That'll serve CA right

Dumb bloody gits
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>>176020146
Or this will rather serve people right. I have no expectations for this. Be it either hero, lord or new starting point or whatever.
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>>176020237
Its going to be a digital book

1 and a half pages much of a git franz is written by Skarsnik
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>>176020282
Damn goblins
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>>176019353
>>176019343
Dwarf Warriors with Great Weapons are pretty bad. You shouldn't take them in MP unless you want to lose- they are disproportionately inferior to Longbeards with Great Weapons since the longbeards got charge defense vs large.

Foot Squires are way too good. They are probably the most cost-efficient armored great weapon infantry in the game, which is a ridiculous tool for Bretonnia to have. Take it away and they'll still be top tier.

Wardancers are supposed to be an elite tool against unarmored infantry like Gors, Flagellants, Battle Pilgrims, Swordsmen and the like, but in practice they struggle badly to be cost efficient in that role while being bad in other situations. They would benefit from a bonus vs infantry, and it would make sense for them.

Chaos Warriors, unlike the other changes, aren't markedly underpowered or overpowered, but they are merely an okay choice at 750 gold. They should be asymmetrically strong, a major strength of the faction. Instead Chaos's major distinctive strength is access to Forsaken and, to a lesser extent, Shaggoths and Manticores. Chaos shouldn't be looking enviously on at Bretonnian medium-heavy infantry options.
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>>176020381
>MP
Stopped reading

>>>/out/
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>>176020409
Hey, nothing needs buffs if you're just bullying the AI in your EB underwear, but us True Understanders only hunt the most dangerous game
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>>176020535
See >>176020409

The irony is MP is a simplistic joke, balancing for it ruins TW and thats why CA ignored it.
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>>176020571
>Implying CA doesnt disproportionately balance around MP

Enjoying your healing cap?
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>>176020090
>talking shit about your mom and dad
SON, GETCH YO ASS BACK TO YA ROOM
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>>176020780
>being this uneducated
Go read the forums posts about it, CA literally did the healing cap because players abused it in campaign. had nothing to do with MP at all.

Third strike, you're >>>/out/ shitposter
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>>176020090
seriously though is there any explanation to why mannfred and isabella kinda look human-ish yet vlad is literally a rotting corpse?
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>>176020780
>>Implying CA doesnt disproportionately balance around MP
Except they didnt, people were abusing it in campaign well before MP. MP is literally dead on Warhammer, it makes up something like < 10% of the total playerbase. Same for all TW games.
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>>176020860
fite me irl nerd, read their actual balance posts and see how heavily they focus on quickmatch results
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/183944/patch-3-balancing-update#latest


>>176020934
10% is still plenty enough to make it very active- you can always find someone quickmatching. Pretty bustling to be dead.
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>>176020893
He has more of a vampire-look, rather than a rotting corpse. No nose, bat ears and all that stuff. He's not self conscious about his looks, because he has important shit to do and a loving wife to look after, unlike some betas of dubious height.
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Multiplayer head to head campaign made.

name is /twg/
pw is autism
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>>176020893
I always assumed it was because he has died in the past, and been dead for periods of time before getting revived by his magic ring

>>176020934
>mp is literally dead on warhammer

relative to other total war games it isn't at all
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>>176020893
Vlad is much older than either mannfred or isabella
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>>175990184
legendary bro, legendary.
I don't know why i am playing this difficulty though, it's unfun and tedious.
I want and like challenging games but AI just cheats here, get massive leadership buffs, i get debuffs, AI always knows where i camp and everyone is out for my head ignoring everything else.
How can this be made fun, challenging AND fair?
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>>176020090
When Vlad died in battle she killed herself shortly after couldnt bare living without him.
And what did you say about this handsome gentleman ?
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Will the chaos dwarfs sound like regular dwarfs, or will they have a different accent?
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>>176021439
Yeah I beat Legendary Brets,Dwarfs and Empire. But Orcs ? I failed 4-5 times already. Orcs are pussies and with this high leadership penalty I can't deal 1v1 on other Orcs. But that's the smallest problem. Dwarfs.. CURSED STUNTIES all of them hate me and I can't scratch them with early units. Moreover main Dwarf faction sucks in all smaller ones pretty fast and then 3 LL Lords knock on my door with full stacks.
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>>176020090
She literally killed herself to not be without Vlad, anon pls
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>>176021685
i'm playing as Beastmen, losing a herd is a fucking half game setback since i need to re-construct every building. Why did they add this mechanic
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>>176021608
They need an accent that contrasts the Dwarfs accent 100%%%%%
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>>176022409
lancashire accent then

fookin war of T' roses lad
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>tfw historyfag
>tfw suffering

CA pls

PLS
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>>176022590
don't worry, they'll vomit out another Empire soon
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>>176022528
>corf handgunners be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPucxmxW5eM
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>>176021530
>>176021838
>t. VIDF
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>>176022682
>VIDF
Vancouver International Dance Festival ?
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>>176022682
>VIDF
Чтo?
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>>176021608
asking the important questions
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>>176022662
kek'd aloud
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>>176021069
>10% is still plenty enough to make it very active
Yeah no, it isnt. And CA already stated on the forum its the least of their concerns. But you keep living in denial kiddo.
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>>176023628
The balance changelogs by CA pretty much -only- talk about MP. You can find someone to play with at any time of day in a few seconds on quickmatch.

Empire or Atilla, thats what dead MP looks like. If you never left your SP sandbox anyway I can understand why you wouldn't understand the difference.

>Number of Quick Battles
It is normal for the number of MP-players to drop quickly after release and then continue to drop over time. In TWWH, the number of quick battles per day have been unusually stable since August though. To my knowledge, that makes you the most loyal MP following we have ever had in a Total War game! Cheers for that <3
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>>176020860
>Had nothing to do with MP at all.
>Proceeds to stack an entire army in the radious of an Invocation of Nehek
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>>176021608
>Select Chaos Dwarf
>FOR THE WISDOM OF VALAYA!
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>>176021910
>losing a Beastmen horde when you can Teleport and Hide from the AI
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>>176022409
In Mark of Chaos they had middle eastern/russian accents
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>>176024242
>land a devastating dreadquake shot
>ALLAHU AKHBAR!!
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>>175993658
I think elf vs elf is just hard to judge in general due to the glass cannon nature of the roster
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>>176024813
Epic my dude
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>Archy invades
>Karl breaks military alliance
>k?
>Two turns later, go to check if he changed his mind
>Option to vassalize is bright green
>Whynot?

Well that's weird.
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>>176024070
>Hide from the AI
only until Tree Hitler sends a hero plus two stacks halfways across teh map taht 'accidentally' runs into your hidden camp ;^)
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>>176025408
thanks
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>>176023837
Not him but you're not fooling anyone, fuck off autismo
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Kroq-Gar's Gyrmloq with the dinosaurs riding dinosaurs.

We know the two Lizardmen LLs now.
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>still no TW: Warhammer 2

Where did everything go this wrong? Do they hate free money now?
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>>176026817
>that fucking Carnosaur
God fucking damn. I hope they get some sweet ass attacks.
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>>176026902

Too many charlemagnes to animate, they will get one bite attack
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>fighting marienburg
>"they will pay!"
wew
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>>176026932
>carnosaur fights other large monster
>nibbles at its ankles
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>>176026102

You are like a child

Watch this
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>>176026932
Dont joke about that

Im entirely expecting stuff like Doomwheels to be entirely cut

Plus we have no idea if the quality of these factions will even be good. Looking at the DLC factions we have now they were all pretty mediocre or sub par, only Bretonnia really stands out as well done.
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>>176027043

>all carnosaurs look the same
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>>176027060
>Doomwheels to be entirely cut

I hope so. And while they're at it, they should just go ahead and cut the entirety of the reddit rats, too.
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>>176026817
>that muscle diagram
>you will never ever play Monster Hunter: Warhammer with accurate anatomy and wounding
Why even live
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>>176027205

RACIST!
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>>176027269
>cuts everything but default units and rehashes

>Saurus Warrior (Sword and Shield)
>Saurus Warrior (Spear and Shield)
>Saurus Warrior (Two Handed Club)
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>>176027285
I'd play a slayer game or something where you have to kill all the nasty bits from the setting, monster hunter style
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>>176027269

>wanting the glorious roster of skaven to be cut because of memes
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>>176027416

>Original units to supplement the weak roster

>Saurus warrior (throwing axes)
>Saurus warrior masters (light skirmisher cavalry)
>Aspiring Slann
>Royal carnosaur riders
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>>176027459
We all would anon, we all would

I would even take a Warhammer Souls
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>>176024070
>hide from AI
lmao, legendary AI always knows where i am, cheats like fuck
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>>176027534
>Inevitable Radious mod

>Ripperdactyl Rider Slann Mage-Priest (Ratling Gun)
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>>176027475
>glorious

Not so fast there, master splinter
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>>176027475
They can keep their roster, they just shouldn't be anywhere near the game.
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>>176026817
i want to fuck that Carnosaur
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>>176027804
>they just shouldn't be anywhere near the game.

What did he mean by this?
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>>176027269
lmao look at this fag, bet you will play High Elves too
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>>176027805

I can understand that desire.
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No this can't be happening, I'm in charge here!
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>>176027628
>Ripperdactyl Rider Slann Mage-Priest (Ratling Gun) (Halberd) (Warpfire Attacks) (Shielded)
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>>176027930
that is lewd, anon
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>>176027957

You feel in charge, Mannyboi?
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>>176027060
Beastmemes were pretty good, too.
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>>176027060
Wood Elves were released with pretty much everything in their book, and it was faithfully adapted

Not being able to fire through trees is dumb, and m-muh amber, but they came out better than we had reason to expect
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>>176027849
Basically skaven get a lot of hate for being a diverse faction with characterful tactics and for getting a lot of love from GW in 8th. Still there was a long fucking wait from 6th to even get plastic stormvermin and basic units.
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>>176016016
Yes, and it neuters norscan economy and aggression so hard you rarely see them before chaos arrives
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>Shogun 2
>"Friendly" factions randomly declare war on me for no reason.
Why do we like this game again?
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>>176028829
Yeah, they are hated for 'characterful tactics'
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Are rat posters the new frog posters?
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>>176029112
Style over substance
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>>176029098
Hmm I had almost nothing against their aggresion before. I just hated to fight off countless Chariots. Byt anyway sounds cool I will check it.
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>>176011885
Nice to see people giving this setup a crack and enjoying it.

You're right about it being too easy if you get alliances with major powers though.

I also feel like autoresolve odds are a bit off, that might be built in to encourage the ai to fight more often.
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>>176028107
Recently had a really fun Beastmemes campaign, albeit with some savescumming to get me through an ugly situation.
Shame they didn't get updated Campaign Objectives to burn the Fig Of Ages.
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>vassalize an upstart greenskin tribe
>instead of helping me they just raid my lands and occasionally kill the other rebels they cause to spawn
Hmm
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>>176029746
>>176029746
>>176029746
>>176029746
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>>176029484
It's nice to give the northern provinces a chance to develop before chaos comes to kick them in the dick.

Also not mentioned by the anon that made the first post is that chaos gets delayed slightly and buffed pretty hard.

This was my first game with that mod setup
And it was only on hard
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>>176027205
There will be mods for that. Just like there are mods for horses, wyverns, gryphons, etc.
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>>176029832
Just got to that part myself. First time playing with the mod (and first time on hard). Looks like your Sigvald also fucked off somewhere. Mine's lagging like 3 turns behind Archaon and seems to want to go in a completely different direction (for some reason Archy is taking his 5 stacks into the mountains, completely sidestepping me after I failed to defend Kislev, my ally, no idea why, since everything north of Zhufbar was razed).
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So why aren't you on a crusade against Sylvania right now /twg/?
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>>176027050
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>>176028829
They are hated because they attract the worst kind of fans. Every faction has cancer fans, but the skaven only have cancer fans.
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>>176029832
>delayed slightly and buffed pretty hard.
This part sounds awesome. I like when it's hard.
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>>176032302
go away slaanesh
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