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first for sup nig

>>175850823
so is it better to just buy them permanently then?
is there any DLC that you'd say is "trash" and not worth it?

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>>175853908
KURWA

>>175855516

I would. And all of the DLC have their place.

>>175855663
I don't really care about PvP. Does that help?

>>175855604
Aren't girls aware that these things are colloquially called black belts of blowjobs?

>>175855751

Well, even if you hate PvP, several of the DLC dungeons are located in the imperial city DLC pack (white gold tower and imperial city prison). If you are a healer, you'll want spell power cure out of WGT, and if you are a tank you might want leeching out of ICP, and scathing mage out of ICP may be making a comeback as a good DPS caster set.

they're not going to remove Vivec's death stare in the expansion, right?

>>175855916
Alright, thanks pal. I was looking mainly at the Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood DLC packs, since I'm playing a Nightblade at the moment (heard they're getting destroyed in morrowind patch though, JUST). Are those questlines good/better than the base game?

>>175855938
Sort of, it's a lot more homoerotic.

>>175855938
They should remove the death stare of vampires first
also do skins like the one from vMOL override the visual vampire effects?

>>175856054
Yes, sadly.

>>175856045

Thieves guild and DB are very similar quest lines, the main difference is stealing vs. shanking. But, both have their charm, and can offer ways to make decent money. With the thieves guild, you can do their repeatables and get large reward bags (doing ac action, like breaking into a lockbox or pickpocketing NPC's in 3 separate zones) that can drop motif pages, which sell quite well. DB quests have similar repeatables, either shanking people in towns or specific NPC's.

Then there are heists and sacraments, higher level missions. They involve you going into an instance and completing several objectives for a score. COmplete all of the optionals and main objective, get the best reward.

Finally, the skill lines from both guilds offer good bonuses. Thieves guild lets you sneak and steal better, DB lets you shank and get way better. The DB passive that reduces the aggro radius of enemies while you are on horseback lets you farm the bosses of certain dungeons in 20 minutes or less solo, depending on build.

I've hardly been into the imperial city. I went in once on Blackwater Blade and kept getting rekt by elite mobs.

What's the deal with it? Are there more people in on the 50+ campaigns? Or is it something you need friends to really manage?

>>175856467

People go into IC for two reasons.

1. To farm the mobs for telvar stones, which can be traded for specific gear, consumables, cosmetics, etc.

2. To farm the people who are farming the telvar stones, if you kill them, you get some AP and half of the stones they are carrying.

>>175856623

So nobody plays it for fun like the rest of Cyrodiil?

>>175856841

I do, and I have a blast. You can go in there with a modified PvE build to fight the mobs, get motifs and key fragments, open the vault doors for a chance at good loot, and occasionally (or frequently) meet other players. There are also some crafting stations located in the imperial city that are pretty powerful.

>>175856050
"H-hey! My cock's down here!"

>>175851008
>no one has alts
good, looks like they are finally on the right track.

does Mike Kirkbride play TESO?

>>175857832

I want to hang with Kirkbride. Just have some beers and smoke some weed.

>>175857586
People still have alts, but now you have to run them through 100x as much shit to pray for legendaries so that can be your main. At launch top guilds had players make up to like 5 versions of the same class and multibox because you needed X legendary to be BiS.

You can't stop alts.

>>175858070
Sure you can, mmos didn't used to have this sort of thing, people had alts, sure, maybe fun little ones to mess around with, shifting mains was a huge deal, something people only did after a lot of consideration. This both insured class diversity because nobody expected you to make a new character with every patch, because by the time you did get back to where you were, many patches would have come and gone and the balance would be totaly different anyway. People played a character, not a game. It was about being the strongest X you could be, not just reading whats currently OP and shifting all your assets to that.

The problem is illustrated in your post i think, its an item based progression system, with a definite end goal that you get to.
Any system with a final objective is going to have to allow people to reach that objective, and if some people reach it, then everyone else is going to want to reach it too and bitch if they cant.

Now imagine if instead of playing to obtain something specific, you played to simply become stronger. No ultimate goal, but rather always a fairly easy to obtain short term goal. Your effectiveness was measured in how good you were at progressing, not where you were in the progress.

In the system you just described having multiple alts was actually a way to reach the ultimate goal faster, thats oposite of what im talking about.

Currently one can claim that total time /played in a game (including time out of game researching the games mechanics) make you a stronger player. You understand the game more, you get better at it. Characters used to grow in experience as the player grew in experience. You gained gain experience and your character gained exp and the time spent by you was mirrored by your character. Now you wear characters like a piece of equipment, and the characters themselves only progress via equipment, things that are discarded when no longer needed, instead of experience that always stays with you.

>>175857586
>>175858070
>tfw you level your character to flawless demigod
>ZOS gifts you with nerfhammer

Ive decided to give this game a fresh, new go, since I bought the game at launch.

Only real gripe I have with it is the combat, is there a way to make it feel less spammy and floaty? Atleast bows feels really shitty to me. Any recomendations on what class to play?

Are group delves similar to public dungeons in difficulty?
I don't have a group to run with but I am interested in at least getting these skyshards for now.

>>175859025
>its a "I want this MMO to be something completely and fundamentally different, why won't the developer just rehaul their entire game!

Meta theorycrafters will never stop crunching the numbers to find the 1% best of the best and since its a group effort they generally converse.

Their builds filter down to people who have no clue how to play but see that the best of the best players recommend X so they pick X.

X becomes overpopulated so people who don't play X feel out of the loop and pressured to roll X leading to the company nerfing X/buffing Y to compensate which means theorycrafting now discuss build Y.

ESO is already in a great place with a gear cap resulting in a horizontal gear progression system that makes gear from a variety of activies viable depending on your build and playstyle. Generally trials gear is the best but not always the case in every scenario, as we are seeing as well with Morrowind they are not wiping the slate clean and forcing everyone to get to a new gear cap that only includes new gear.

You want a sandbox MMO, go play a sandbox MMO.

>>175859078
And it doesnt matter because you are still the most powerful _your class_ in the game and people are awed when you pass them in town and you can still kill the vast majority of everything by looking at it, and at this point power is more academic anyway.

The proper mmo is like an endless DBZ powerup episode. I say this as someone who hates DBZ, but power is intoxicating and you can craft a game to give that sense of power, ive played them. But no, people would rather log onto alts and do dailies and then circlejerk on discord or whatever

How much of a dps loss is it if I don't weave light attacks between skills? I don't have the rhythm for it and it feels spastic as fuck.

Let's say I want to switch my build from one type of armour to another and I've got no experience in the other armour type.

What's the fastest way to level it up?

Just run into Celestia Rift in Claglorn, so how do I beat this mini event? I'm getting trashed so hard and so many times.

>>175859570
training set of that gear and just go do quests, since XP is scaled to your level you'll zoom through the armor levels.

>>175859535
Pretty big.

>>175859570
Full set of gear to equip when returning quests.

>>175859346

Easiest to hardest

Delves -> Public Dungeons -> Craglorn Delves -> Dungeons -> Veteran Dungeons -> Veteran Dungeon Hard Modes -> Trials -> Veteran Trials -> Veteran Trial Hard Modes

>>175859439
>just rehaul their entire game
It wouldnt be, theyve already taken steps in my direction, it would just be continuing down the path. Im not asking for radical mechanical changes, just changing some exp curves and taking one half of the VR system and combining it with one half of the CP system. See, its all stuff thats already been in game, just arranged a little different.

>filter down
sure optimal is always known, but the point is its impossible to chase optimal if you require progression to take enough time.

>sandbox
thats a buzzword, i think only mmo hipsters think its a good idea because the kind of shit sandbox proponents drone on about is nothing like the way the mmos they claim to be trying to 'recapture' were like.

>>175860051
I will give it a shot then, I have no trouble in public dungeons solo when my internet isn't acting up so maybe I can do them.

>be a beautiful yellow altmer
>vampire
>stage 4
>whiter than a wall now, fucked eyes and ugly veins all over

do any of you actually read the books in TESO?

>>175860560
Honestly no, I got bad impressions of the lore on launch and my MMO autism overrides my TES autism

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Altmer master race, abandoned my old EP sorc because sorcs are boring and made templar in DC (race traitor etc)

>>175860425
>veins
cute!

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>>175860425
Vampires are cute! CUTE!

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>>175860830
>>175861018
no

>>175861018
>Dunmer
>In AD
the fuck
well better than KhaSHITS

>>175861117
he's a delusional bosmer poster he probably thinks varicose veins are hot.

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>>175860051
Would you really say normal trials are harder than veteran dungeons? In a normal trial you just walk along the other 11 people without actually doing anything, maybe spam light attacks if you want to feel like you're contributing.

>>175861018
>inb4 someone posts fat vampire chicks

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>>175861018
I had Altmer in EP and now i have Altmer in DC

>>175859445
Well... yeah. I guess you're right. Time to troll Stonerfalls with my pet army and flaming panther mount!

>>175861637

Depends. In trials there are mechanics that if ignored will wipe most of the group or all players. In vet dungeons it may just instakill one person, and the other 3 can finish it.

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>finally get a group from dungeon finder
>stuck in infinite loadscreen
>restart hoping they didn't boot me
>stuck in infinite loadscreen again

>>175860560
Sometimes. I joined a mage-themed rp guild and sometimes look up my eidetic memory for shit that might be relevant. Unfortunately, a lot of books are just filled with useless noise, especially the newer ESO books.

should I play this or eve online

Whats the best mount for altmers?

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>>175863000

>>175863000
I've heard it's khajiit dick

>>175863115
I don't have a storm mount, sadly

>>175862956
eve, hands down

>>175863259
ok i actually got the tiger mount

>>175862956
eve requires you to multibox

its a good game otherwise

>>175862956
I don't see how the games are even comparable. Eve is free so you may as well try it and see if you enjoy it before you spend dollaridoos on eso.

>>175857832
I'd assume so, he approves of the lore

>>175863798
doubt.jpg
source?

what to buy with 700 crowns? No idea where I got them, Im new to the game

>>175860425
>veins
>ugly
Wrong

>>175861687
>fat vampire chicks
Yes please

>>175863908
Why wouldn't he approve of something he's now writing for?

>>175864764
Kirkbride isn't writing for TESO or TESO Morrowind anon. He works full time at Telltale Studios on fucking Minecraft Stories no less

>>175861018
>fish mouth
>gretchen from Recess style head
nah senpai

>>175864282
NO! the very thought kills my manhood! mercy!

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>>175864857
Minecraft was ages ago and he didn't even write all the episodes.
But boy you're in for a surprise if you're not expecting him in ESO:Morrowind and you should count yourself happy you haven't read the leaks yet.

>>175866084
spoil me senpai
and give me a source for these text being written by him
did he write any quests?

I keep getting stuck in fucking loading screens today. Can't even log in anymore.

>>175866602
EU is fucked up today, probably Gina taking black dicks in european server room again

The melody of this makes me very sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUe3XOVWvdc

What do I need to know to be a good khajiit(theif)
What cities should I rob?
Do I need any traits to make more money?

>>175866938
It's actually a song about beer.
It really is, pay attention to the lyrics.

>>175866236
anon please respond

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>>175866909
Gina is pure you fucking asshole

>>175867563
anything that makes you sneak better, also the passives that increase daily fence use.

One tip is to take the white items you find and launder them, while selling green+. You can turn around and sell a laundered item to a merchant for what it cost you to launder it, this will help you level up the skill line faster.

daggerfall is a good city for robbing houses for lockboxes. The inn in reapers march is a good single building for just getting lots of lesser items stolen.

Dont bother pickpocketing

If you do the thieves guild stuff the tip board repeatable quests can be cycled, just abandon and get a new one if its one you dont like.

>>175869452

>Gina now sucks off one nig while DP'ing the other two
>This will be a buff if her husband is a cuck

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been playing ESO for 3 days.

>first day
>8 hour maintenance and a couple of weird quest giver issues in the starting
>second day is fine
> third day zoning and character loading issues.

I bought gold edition and ESO + for this?

>>175871078

Yeah, it can be a bit wonky at times. Overall, I enjoy my experience. Like any mmo, I take the connection issues and downtime with the good.

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What's your favourite city /tesog/?

I like to busk near the wayshrine in Mournhold.

>>175871573
Shornhelm before it was crowded with people farming for Necropotence.

>>175869901
>trying to push 'this will be a buff if'
This is the dumbest meme.

Is ESO: Morrowind an expansion or a standalone?

My friend keeps telling me it's a standalone thing and he swears by it but I don't believe him.

Also I've never played ESO.

>>175868491
I don't have it at hand but ask in the /tg/ elder scrolls lore thread that pops up every weekend, they're the ones who leaked it.

>>175872452
expansion

>>175872542
Alright, but what is it you saw? In-game files that had Kirkbride texts? Were they texts from 10 years ago or were they newly written texts?

>>175872452
It's an "chapter". However if you buy Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind you get the chapter and the base game. If you have the base game you can upgrade it to ESO:Morrowind.

>>175872663
Sermon 37

>>175872683
So if I don't have the original ESO do I just buy the Morrowind thing when it comes out and I'll have that as well as the base game..?

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>>175872817
Oh, I read those leaks on /v/.
I thought Kirkbride was working on new stuff for TESO: Morrowind.
Got excited for a moment there.

>>175872864
Yes, if you buy anything but the ones labelled upgrade you get Morrowind + base game.

>>175872940
Wait, you telling me he wrote that outside of ESO?

>>175873164
Isn't that sermon part of morrowind?

>>175872237

>This will be a buff if you have a sense of humor
>This will be a Nerf if you're a salty cunt

>>175873164
>>175873254
Nevermind, there were only 36 sermons. What the fuck. So he did write a new one.

But how the fuck are people now saying "so c0da is canon! holy shit!" when previously everyone said "nothing in TESO is canon!", what kind of double standard is that?

>>175873254
No.

>>175873383
Who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>175873334
>doesn't like muh passphrase for autism
>must be a salty cunt

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>>175873796

>yfw testing out stamden
>ravager/spriggans pvp build
>buffed tooltips for delayed opening burst: 13k, 7k, 11k
>that just the opening, you are now hard stunned on the floor I rotate a LA>dive>bash combo on your body (11k tooltip dive)
>veil tooltip 15k, dawnbreaker tooltip 15k + 15k dot
wew lad
this gonna be fucking aids in cyro

>>175874579
Not that I complain: it's something else than nerf barf.

Is there anything to do in the Morrowind expansion? Got an invite into the beta but it's boring as hell. The nostalgia doesn't work for me even though I loved TESIII. The main quest was pretty short and now I'm just running around aimlessly. Don't care about most of the pointless side-quests. Was hoping to join one of the great houses or something.

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>>175873796

>>175875316
Nope, all there is to Morrowind is the main quest and nothing else.

>>175875652
I feel like you're being facetious. Are you? I know there are a ton of side-quests around the map, but if they're like the main game, they're just busy-work to help you level up. Nothing in the beta matters so I ignored most of them.

>>175875868
I think there one side-quest line that is suppose to be pretty decent that about it the rest are just trash basic type ones

>>175875526
>dem holes
>ew

>>175875868
I've heard this line that Morrowind is empty and not as good as Wrothgar a couple times now. I can't say myself because I didn't want to spoil myself on any of the sidequests. The MQ for me was disappointing, but the Telvanni quest was good. The world felt empty to me, but I purposely ignored all side quests so that's not really indicative of anything, is it? That's all I've done in the beta.

I have info that Kirkbride didn't write the 37th Sermon.

Sorry pals, he ain't coming back.

What's your all favourite motif?
I am going to be crafting my Hundings/NMG soon and looking for some inspiration.

the one thing
ONE thing I don't like about this game is how at end game im forced to wear ugly monster helms and shoulders instead of good looking imperial and or regular crafted gear which forces me to wear costumes/polymorphs to look good at end game

>>175879306
Transmog/cosmetic armor slots has been asked for since the beginning of time and ZOS will never implement it because they want to sell costumes. I'm starting to doubt they'll even offer it for eso plus.

Alright, so as I'm relatively new to making a proper character, what should a dunmer magcork have for spells? Or do I eventually get them all? Don't want to waste skill points is all.

>>175881190
>Don't want to waste skill points is all.
Find a build and stick to the relevant skills, you will eventually get enough skill points to do whatever you want though.

>>175881374
Sounds good. Thanks.

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>>175878276
This makes it even more confusing. Why would they write something like this?

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>>175881775
I'm just shit posting don't worry.
Wish we could ask Kirkbride though.

>>175879196
I like mixing pieces. There's a preview mod for armor crafting I'd recommend. Lets you equip and match pieces to cut down on clipping.
>Heavy or medium Imperial shoulders on Minotaur armor
>Medium Covenant chest and Skinchanger shoulders

>>175882353
(da) he ded?

>>175882929
I don't think he dieded but he has no twitter or anything. He's an internet ghost.

>>175880071

I like it because it punishes min/maxing faggots who daren't compromise MUH NUMBERS by making them wear dumb shit.

But then, nearly all the armour in this game looks like fucking ass, and I hope whoever designed it all got fired. So many sets with that same dumb "plate outline" theme going on. There's only the Thieve's Guild leathers, the Breton style, and a couple of sets from the DLCs that look good at all.

>>175883135
only thing missing is internet necromancer, eh?

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Everyone shut the fuck up.

We get mushroom towers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9UvOam5sRE

How the fuck do I git gud at PVP? How do some people seem to just have these fucking uber builds where they demolish you in 2-3 seconds and you have no time to react, whilst still being nearly impossible to even hurt at all?

I'm probably way too casual for this. I'm used to FPS games and stuff where your abilities against other players entirely depends on reaction time and precision; this seems to have a lot more going on that I can't even start to grasp.

i really want warden to come out

i want a bosmer werewolf archer warden

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>>175886129
I'm also new and I just read the guide in the OP.

It specifically states having lots of armor with "impenetrable" trait is important to not immediately die in PvP.

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>new class announced
>no Necromancer
>no Monk
>no Berserker
>gay ass druid
>mfw

>>175886329

I have my whole set as impenetrable.

I'm thinking I may need health enchants and/or sets too because I put all my points in to magicka and I think that's left my char basically made of paper.

>>175888654
Don't use health enchants.

Light armor magicka is very squishy but capable of very high damage as well, but you really want to hide in a zerg so you don't get blown up. And use harness magicka+healing ward as well.

>>175884923
nice

so i got 5500 crowns on the crown sale earlier, but before i buy the dlc pack, do those packs ever go on sale or is the dlc price always the same?

>>175863387
The two top MMOs on the market at the moment, hands down. This is easier to pick up and play, easier to have a small session and do something useful. Easier access to low commitment pvp. Eve is just full of sandbox goodness. Similar build depth for various tasks as this game. You can probably play both, as eve has an offline character advancement mechanism.

>>175886301
With all those sustain+stamina nerfs surely werewolfs are dead.

>>175889163
They go on sale during their anniversary. So Dark Brotherhood will soon go on sale, followed by Imperial City Prison and Shadow of the Hist, followed by Orsinium, and lastly Thieves Guild.

>>175861018

>not Serana

Disgusting!

Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNLWiZCMUXU

>get writ for bog-iron ale
>learned the recipe a few days ago
>go to craft
>recipe not memorized
o-okay

>>175890978

I believe all crafting writ recipes are available for sale from brewers and chefs.

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Guys my game gets stuck loading every time I try to leave this mine in Glenumbra.

I've tried alt+F4'ing but I log back in inside the mine, and goes right back into getting stuck loading when I try to leave.

What the fuck?

>>175893675
Try loading in to a different character then logging back out and in to the stuck character

>>175893675
Can you teleport to to a shine in another zone?

>>175893675
try the /stuck chat command

someone knows if the spider cultist set boosts the destro staff light/heavy attacks?

>they lock the crafting pouch behind the sub
That's just obnoxious.
Guess it's time to grind for bank upgrades.

What are the pros and cons of vampirism? Passives seem really kinda weak but seems like everybody has that or lycanthropy.

>tfw dont want to follow guides and do my own thing
>but also want to do go in pvp

frick :(

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this is a redguard

>>175893675
You can teleport to a friend for free if you arent in combat.

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>>175900037
>>175894453
>>175894360
>>175893901

The second time I logged back in after alt+f4 I'd gotten out.

Also, damn. How long do these things usually take?

Which of the crafting skills would you consider essential /tesog/?

Blacksmithing, Woodworking, Tailoring and Enchanting.

New crown store items SUCK

>>175901331
You need to get them to level 50 eventually. Either do it with your main or alts. However provisioning and alchemy passives are the most important ones and you must get them with your main.

How important are food/potions etc in PvP?

I don't like the idea of relying on consumables to make my character effective but looking at the buffs they provide they seem pretty damn important.

I mean I just find it kills immersion a bit to consider that your character is running around the battlefield stuffing roast legs of pork down his throat every ten minutes and chugging potions like sambuca shots.

Actually I don't think I'm cut out for MMO gaming, I want to play a fantasy game not a spreadsheet, fuck man.

>>175902657
Foods is cheap, and lasts an hour. Everyone should use it.

Potions are only for top tier tryharding.

>>175902657
Very. But food is very cheap and they last for two hours so it should be no biggie.

You will do just fine using the random potions you find in dungeons so it's not a necessity spend thousands of gold each time you want to join some pvp action.

>>175902657
>MMO gaming
I think that's just gaming in general. Pausing and chugging a dozen potions in the middle of a fight isn't exactly something new to Elder Scrolls.

Is there a useable archive of these threads anywhere?

I asked a question a little less than a month ago and I can't find the thread where it got answered.

I don't think there is a MMO with a group finder/social tool as outdated as ESO

>>175903812
Agreed. But it's still better than non at all.

>>175896482
The sub would literally be worthless without it.
Pay up goy

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>dps drops from 28k on live to 20k on the pts

>>175898318

>Take more damage from fire
>Lower health recovery

>Increased stam and magicka recovery rate
>New skills

For a magicka character, the increase to recovery rate alone is worth it. With red frothgar (max health + magicka recovery drink) my recovery is 3k+, I can literally spam skills all day every day and not run dry, really helpful for areas where I have to hit a shield quite a bit. The extra fire damage can be assuaged with a single gold fire resistance rune on your armor.

>>175905273
>I can literally spam skills all day every day and not run dry
until morrowind hits

>>175905373

We'll see about that, been working on a build on PTS. If all goes as I think it will, magicka nightblades will get higher DPS than magicka sorcs while self sustaining, not needing orbs, due to some armor synergies.

Is there any reason not to sell high quality stolen items?

>>175906109

None at all. Sell that shit.

>>175904858
will they nerf bosses hp as well

>>175884923
>claimed
Anyone got a mirror

>>175905998
you got me curious, I'm leveling up a magblade right now
care to share your donut steel build?

what kind of archetype does dragonknight fit into? trying to find a class

>>175907683
Leans towards Tank and a Melee DPS.

>>175866938
What the fuck is up with that video quality?

Fuck it, I'll ask again.

So I got the "Be Whatever The Fuck Race You Want On Any Faction" DLC,

What race is best for the Daggerfall faction if I wanted to make your typical Warrior class (probably a Stamina Tank, I'd imagine)?

>>175908026
Imperial/Orc/Nord/Argonian

>>175883319
The Altmer heavy armour is my favourite though.

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>>175884923
you think he survived Gina's wrath?

>>175908232
What are the differences between those classes?

Is Imperial worth the upgrade price? The "Explorer's Pack" only cost me $3, figured it was worth it.

>>175886849
it's because it's WARDENfell

wait for NecrOblivion expansion for that

Hey /tesog/,

Started playing again for the first time since launch and resubbed because why the hell not. What are the best things to buy with my stupid ass coins or whatever that I get for subbing?

>>175908550
Hardly, he was probably stripped to the bone in seconds.

>>175908716
Hair dyes.

>>175902657
I think it adds to the immersion, actually. Every two hours you have to eat something since I imagine two hours of constant fighting would make someone at least a bit hungry.

>>175908653

Are you a minmaxing faggot? Because if the answer is yes it's a waste of money. Imperials make pretty good stamina builds, but aren't as good as other races.

You can do the other factions content when you hit max level anyway. Only real reason to play them is you don't want to be a faggy Elf or furry.

I find it incredibly Ironic that a series that stopped giving a shit what race you play in the main franchise, has a mmo where race is one of the most important choices you can make.

>>175903674
Ask it again and I'll try to answer it.

it better not be something that you can find in the New Player's Guide

>>175908716
Assistants, maybe. There's really nothing of value in the cash shop.

>>175908945
Not really a minmaxing faggot, but I'd have to pay $30 for 2 months of sub to have enough for the Imperial Upgrade.

So which of the other 3 races would you say is best for a traditional Warrior class? Or is there just very little difference between those races?

So you're saying there's no difference in factions aside from quests/who you can PvP with? No specific bonuses and shit?

>>175909019
Beginner's guide is broken for me.

>>175909514

Orc you limp wristed cum stain.

>>175909514
The Sub is more worth it for the craft bag. Unlimited inventory for everything thats a crafting material. And trust me friend. There are a fucking LOT of crafting materials.

Imperial race is ok. Stamina Templar is getting fucked and thats what they were best at.

Orc bretty gud for Tanking. Leveing wise they get Heavy Armor xp a bit faster and they learn Craftinga bit faster too. Endgame wise they have a nice buff to Health and Stamina pools as well as a substantial buff to Health Recovery.

Nords are kinda the same. They also get a pretty big Health Recovery buff as well as a decent amount of Max Health and a fairly useless 2k resistance to Cold/Frost Damage
Maxed out they get a flat Damage reduction of 6% which might be their best trait.

Argonians are pretty cool they get xp with Restoration Staves a bit faster but also have 50% extra swim speed. In the grand scheme its not that important but it just feels better than anyone else in the water. Their Potion passive lets them recovery a decent bit of Health/ Magicka/ Stamina with any kind of Potion they drink.
They get an ok Buff to Max health and smaller one to Max Magicka but also a small resistance to poison nd Disease damage. Those two types are very popular among physical damage dealers.

These things only really matter to the Endgame of the endgame. For leveling Purposes you can play however you want. Especially if its your first Char. In that case thow all of this out and just do whatever the fuck looks cool.

>>175909514

>So which of the other 3 races would you say is best for a traditional Warrior class? Or is there just very little difference between those races?

Let me just say a few things. I'm not an expert and it seems to matter more if you are going to use stamina (weapon skills) or magic (class skills) to do the lions share of your damage.

If you are going to use a lot of dragonknight/templar abilities Dunmer and High faggots are the best. If you are going stamina Orc and Redguard are fine (wood elves and furries are decent too thanks to stamina reg passives and weapon crit chance).

>So you're saying there's no difference in factions aside from quests/who you can PvP with? No specific bonuses and shit?

Nope. None at all. However this comes into my saying how good racials tend to be. I'm sure there's some faggots here who say play what you want or something and that's fine to an extent. However the racial passives in this game are fucking enormous by modern MMO standards. A high elf who goes full WIZARD mode is going to have something like a 15% or so dps bonus over an orc or some shit. Which means (and I'm assuming here) that the dominion probably whoops the shit out of the other factions thanks to three really good races being group together, opposed to 1 good and two meh like the other factions have.

>>175910653
>>175911130
Great answers. Thank you anons.

Debating between Orc and Argonian.

Can you switch a character from a Magicka DPS to a Stam Tank with respeccing?

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>>175911981

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>>175912872

>>175912872

gaaaaaaay

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>>175913089

>>175898715
Can be done. I play a pvp character of my own build and it does fine. Usually you will come up with similar sections of the 'meta' builds even if you work it out yourself, because the strongest parts of different builds are often shared.

The guide says to play DPS while leveling.
At what point do you stop "leveling"? CP160?

>>175913856
CP600
at CP160 you can start to farm your equipment

>>175914939
So tanking is only encouraged at CP600?
How long does it take to get there?

What's a more fun melee class, Redguard or Orc?

>>175915189
Not the same person and I don't know what the beginners guide said but you should have enough skillpoints as you level to get both dps and tanking skills.

>>175915189
nah, you can already tank a lot of shit at CP160 with a decent build
only the hardest veteran dungeons in hard mode and veteran trials need max CP or near max

you should play DPS between level 1-50 so it doesn't take you an eternity to level up, if you really want to tank then queue as a tank as soon as you hit 50

>>175915408
orc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTHsOSGJHN0

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My internet went full third world on me while I was playing so I did something for you, lads. Since I know how much we love shitposting the lyrics of this song.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s04r7fmzGcEF

If anyone here knows how to play an instrument I'm sure you'll enjoy this. Hope you like it.

>>175915907
we /comfy/ now

wasn't there an option that let you start immediately in the first city?

>>175902960
>Potions are tryhard
Zergling detected
Immovable and tri-pots are literally essential tier in pvp.

Any players here who played from the start? What where the huge changes that made the game better? From the videos it seems like the same game. Did people just forget it was shit and dickrode bethesda? Or was it just not that bad but people had too high hopes because Skyrim hype?

>>175916646
I think that got removed a while back. But now you can leave the starting areas at any time.

how viable would it be to do a PVP build focused around bursting down vampires and werewolves with fighters guild skills

>>175917583
They fixed a lot of bugs and made the whole zoneing bullshit better. People do not have the kneejerk reaction to the lore(it's ok/10 not as shit as people say). The level scaling really helped som you can play with your friends at any time.
The DLCs has been fun so far and probably some other stuff.

>>175917906
You don't really have much burst outside of the fighters guild ulti, and that one's viable.

>>175915907
shit son

5 star post

>>175917583
>guilds
>armor coloring
>traders
>Graglorn, lower&upper (3 trials and 4 man arena)
>Veteran rank removal
>Introducing of thievery (outlaw refuges)
>One Tamriel (No faction restrictions outside of PvP)
Those were the big things iirc.

Shit things are champion points (still better than veteran ranks), subscription model change, game being developed on consoles, jew crates, ZOS being shit company full of jews. Nobody wouldn't play TESO if it wasn't TES game imo. (I too play it just because it's a TES game, lore, universe, being able to RP with other player in that universe).

>>175884923
>copyright claim

>>175908019
i recorded it at minimum resolution since i was only after the audio, and then was too lazy to just put a picture or something over it before uploading to youtube.

>>175919454

Why are champion points shit?

>>175915907
Great, time to break out my vuvuzela

>>175920984
powercreeping

>>175917583
The phasing problem where you'd constantly phase in and out is gone, non-combat content focusing on stealing and assassinating, being able to pick up the items scattered around in the world, the priority of actions in combat and animation times have been reworked and tweaked to be much more responsive, and being able to go anywhere and do any content as soon as you exit the tutorial is probably the big things.

are 'good Hybrid builds' a myth?

>>175923945
No, they make excellent tanks.

>>175920984
Unpolished and rushed powercreeps.
Probably an eternal balance limbo.

>>175923945
i think it works with some werewolfs too. with pelinal

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I can't decide whether to pick Sorc or Temp. Especially because I'm not really sure what type of char to make yet either.

>>175925129
if its your first character choose sorc.
if its not your first character then choose sorc. templars are gonna get rekt. they are already better dps and tanks and even sorc healer will be better than templars if they dont touch them.

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>>175925285
>even sorc healer will be better than templars if they dont touch them.

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>>175925285
Good thing I picked sorc then. Yeah I just started playing this a couple days ago. Not sure whether to go stam or mag, but leaning towards magsorc because it's what my MMO mains always are.

Too bad about Temps sucking though, because I was kinda hoping to have a Temp alt to try out Tanking and/or Healing with.

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Uh, I touched the artifact here, it disappeared, but the quest didn't update...

>>175925953
hi generic breton guy

>>175927420
I know. Is there a way to change appearance later on? Without crowns.

Love how everyone is QQing about sustain nerfs at the moment. Seems like they are just butthurt because their broken OP builds are getting cut down to size.

If you want sustain roll a magblade, you'll never have your huge 15k burst down, but you'll always have plenty of magicka. That's the kind of trade-off you're supposed to have to make, and these crybabies just want to have it all.

>>175928173
lolno

>>175928319
tfw leveling magnb atm

Do you think someone would give me a vampire bite if I offer to do lewd with them

>>175928713
vampire bites are already lewd

>>175928713
I'll give you one for free if you pcna

>>175928598
Tfw magnb has been the shittest class for well over a year maybe even longer and will continue to be well after morrowind

If im undecided between battlemage playstyle and pure caster playstyle, should i pick sorc dunmer or altmer?

>>175928319
Have you seen what they did to siphoning strikes? They nerfed it 80% compared to live

>>175929312
what's up reddit

>>175929312
>shitter than stamblade
>anything

>>175929471

Magblades get a ton of magicka return from assasination skills, cripple, etc too though. Run vampire and a regen focussed set, don't even have to bother with light armour. Heavy armour compliments siphoning better anyway.

>>175930014
Dubious assertion, since they nerfed the constitution 42% passive as well. Unless you're talking about pvp, I can never see using non-light armor 5pc for magblade dps in pve.

So how long until Deltia comes back begging for forgiveness and subscriber donations?

>>175929471
Was it like 400 magicka and 1.5 health per each light attack in pts?

>>175930167
1k cost, 200 return, get 2.5k (?) after 20 sec duration expires.

Just watched alcast's heavy attack stamina dk build. He put 37.5k without bis. Rip magicka builds.

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I keep remaking her, now i wanted to try out white hair but im not sure if i like it over regular brown or not. Otherwise im quite happy with it this time.

>>175929946
yeah pretty much, at least stamblade can pvp, magblade can't even do either.

>>175934158
More a matter of skill, magblade can be strong in PvP. There's one magblade on PC NA, KenaPKK that's consistently scary to play against.

>>175934158
>at least stamblade can pvp
Magblade can just be a really stealthy healer if it wants to and farm AP that way. Stamblade has to gank and thats being nerfed in morrowind.

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Guys I can't log in at all. I get the "An unexpected internal error occurred" message and there are no fields where I can fill in my username and password. I've restarted the client several times, is there any fix to this issue?

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post your most qt guild trader waifu

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OH GOD I FOUND HER

1 month left till morrowind

how does it look so far, any pre-ordering goyims here to tell me?

>>175932751
I deleted her just to adjust the haircolour and now i failed to recreate it.
Ran out of deletes too so feels bad, why do those damn deletes have to be limited.

>>175936750
Because autists like you break the servers with all your deletes

>>175935073
>he doesn't know
You're banned, anon.

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>>175911981
ARGONIAN

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It's much easier to make a good looking Argonian than it is to make a good looking Orc.
(Editors Note:It's impossible to make a good looking Orc)

>>175912658
I mean Technically yes.
But if you haven't done so you'll have to level up Tanking skills such as One Handed and Shield and Heavy Armor
And you can repsec attribute points from the 64 Magicka that you should have into Health and Stamina

>>175911981
Argonians swim faster, orcs run faster

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>>175937236
But looks are important, i can't play like my buddy who just uses whatever happens to be the default always.

>>175915556
>You'll never have an Amy waifu irl

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>>175937428
I think mine looks quite nice

>>175915907
The first note made me think of Dream On.
Good job Zrif

>>175915907
Wew

>>175937541
>>175937774
Would you kindly stop with the avatar/waifu posting. Believe it or not, there's no need to post your characters multiple times in a single thread.

>>175935073
>banned, at such a young age
You will never again run up to some guy in cyrodiil and drop your bombs on him, finishing up with a soul assault whilst shouting in real life
>BEEAAAAMMMMMMS
as he turns into a pile of ash, and you try to remember where the closest wolf is to recharge your beam

>>175939104
I've only seen it meaning same person etc, not identical image. And for identical image to be posted repeatedly, it would need to be slightly different. It's possible this is a newer interpretation, but i've only seen it enforced this way, not the way you describe.

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>>175937428

are there any more costumes that were datamined still yet to be released? or are the four announced for this month it?

>>175939104
Posting screenshot of your creation isn't any worse than memeposting or posting 10th identical complaint about nerfs and such, isnt posting about the game what the generals are for.

No matter if its showing off your creation, or how awesome deeps your character does, or getting salty about changes and so forth.

Personally i just really like character creation and like to show them (im the avatarfagger)
since i use a lot of effort on those, i don't min-max but that doesn't mean i want to remove all min-maxing comments.

>doing main quest
>go into Molag Bal's dungeon to rescue Lyris
>ask the prophet how he knows molag won't fuck my asshole
>"I can hear his thoughts and see through his eyes. I will distract him while you're there. Hurry up."
>come back
>ask him "Why did Molag Bal let Lyris escape?"
>"Perhaps it was arrogance. Who knows what goes on in the mind of a Daedric Prince?"
nice writing

>>175943268
Main Quest is the worst part of this game.

>>175943416
Good voice acting, snarky dialogue. There are way worse quests.

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Self buffed, maintaining a magicka pool of about 50% for the last burn. BSW, willpower jewelry, gold sharpened no set staves. Getting better, need to practice on weaving in light attacks more, and making sure I keep my abilities up. Eruption and blockade were up most of the time, but I let flames of oblivion and elemental drain down a couple times. Still need the second passive in vamp, but even with magicka regen food sustain is fairly difficult. I can go balls to the wall DPS for about 40 seconds, popping my potion for magicka/regen/spellpower after my first rotation and get around 23K DPS, but after that its heavy attack city.

>>175943268
>>175943416
stop questioning Michael Gambon and Malcolm McDowell, faggots

>>175943993
>>175944105
I should've specified that the plot of the main quest is the worst.

How's the story of morrowid expansion and side quests? Any leaks yet? Are they any good?

>>175944376
Better than vanilla, some stuff still dips in quality. Main quest is eh okay, Telvanni quests are great.

>>175930162
Why? What'd he do?

>>175935943
Accept your queue, faggot.

>>175945826

Quit the fandom FOR EVA in one of his recent videos.

Basically by the sounds of it, he went outside one day, and realised what a colossal waste of his life it is to make a living playing MMORPG.

Maybe he even has ambitions of getting laid one day.

>>175945826
He threw a temper tantrum over the pts changes and threatened that he's leaving the game

>>175935943
>Healer with blockade of lighting
nice

>>175946340
>>175946273
Can I have his stuff? ,':^)

>>175946273
Isn't he married with kid?

>>175946851
but, he's a ginger
is that even allowed?

>>175946961

not outside of the camps

>>175930158

I'm talking about PVE and PVP, but I'm not talking about DPS.

Magblade build suits a healtank type build much better, although you can still put out respectable damage if you use your stealth crit alongside merciless resolve (when it procs, stealth, let rip, boom) and impale.

>b-but muh DPS

Not aimed at you, Anon, but that's the main problem with this game as I see it right now. People seem to have forgotten other roles exist because you can just brute force DPS and why bother with anything else.

What's the most appropriate class for a battle mage?

>Sai Sahan is into thicc

>>175947315
Probably DK due to lore.

>>175947315
battlemage, meaning melee mage?

>>175867664
I can't unhear it now.

>>175946851

Oh yeah I remember him mentioning that in the video

>I've been spending so much more time with my family, my kid, it's great

Like, christ, how long has it taken this guy to realise "shit maybe I should spend time with my child, instead of sitting on my ass playing vidya all day", as if it was some kind of dawning realisation that he actually likes his family?

Conclusion: His wife bitched at him for playing too much vidya so he's gonna have to get a job at Walmart instead.

>>175947505
Yes with self buffs

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>>175947370

How can you not be?

>>175947610

Or he wanted to play other games, and the PTS changes were a convenient excuse. Who knows, maybe he just wanted to do other games with bigger audiences to try and get bigger streamer funds.

Do crit chances also apply to skills or just to to normal attacks ?

>>175947670
stamsorc is exactly what you are looking for

>>175947370
>Redguard
>into thicc
wow.
Im so surprised.
>>175947675
She has really really nice arms.

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>>175946541
>i just put ritual on ground and have bol on my dps bar just in case
>still better than 99% of pug healers

take it or leave it buddy :^)

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what's going on in this thread?

>>175949594

That dude got a pretty sweet looking set.

I need to unlock me some decent dark dyes, all I have so far are pasty greys. Even "obsidian black" is more of a dark blue, and if I try to use any of my reds it just goes pink.

How am I supposed to be a master edgelord with this pathetic selection.

Oh and aslo: Where do I grind for sweet spell damage/magicka recovery jewellery?

Is there a free trial for this game?

>>175953494
Complete the main quest. You get Coldharbour Black or something like that which is the blackest of the blacks.

Should I even try grinding out Spriggan's to go with a NMG 5/5 on swap with agility jewelery?
It would be Spriggan's front and NMG back all Precise and Divines, or should I do the same but swap Spriggan's with Hunding and go Sharpened Daggers?
Or should I just neglect this idea entirely and go full one or the other?
This will be my placeholder gear until I can find a guild to run SO with and get my Twice Fang and VO gear.
Reading many different guides I have seen a lot of divison on which set to use, just had the idea of the 2 5 piece though I don't know if that's a good idea and if I'd benefit more from dropping Agility.

>>175953778
Yea, around Halloween iirc

>>175953494
thanks!
Outlaw helmet, legs, boots, and daggers (crafted)
Fiord's arm cops, belt, rings, and necklace (zone/delves/etc drop, Eastmarch) because i love sanic sprinting
Ra Gada jack for wings
Xivkyn bracers for claws, but only at like 50+ or something, it's weird
and an Outlaw bow on the backbar because it has a sweet-ass triple-pronged arrow

and like >>175953972 said, Coldharbour Ash Black is great. Red Diamond Red is my go-to bright red and Pact Blood Red is a good darker one.

>>175954675
CP changes in morrowind means that people will be putting points into armor pen, which means armor pen sets may become worse for PvE.

3 Agi is worth 4 set pieces.

Personally I think you'd be fine with 5 NMG 3 Agi 2 random sharp daggers. You know the difference between 3 Agi and 3 VO is like 1%?

>>175956693
Currently 5 NMG/Hundings, 3 Agi, 2 random sharp daggers is good. Then again, who knows because precise may become good in Morrowind.

>>175956693
I should probably mess around more in the PTS to see the changes. I need to up my undaunted and get a monster set anyway so wasting time to get a 5/5 swap set could be better spent I guess.

>>175956693
>which means armor pen sets may become worse for PvE.
Would it mean that or mean that the armor sets are still good but the weapon trait should be precise now?

>>175959160
Maybe. Or maybe sharpened weapons will still be used but people will use leviathan instead.

>>175962162

and its todays pledge

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>>175852286
I was kicked

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>>175955141

Sounds like you have very similar edges to me Anon. It's harder when your build is heavy armour though, a lot of them just look too bulky instead of sleek and stylish.

I already have outlaw legs and asassin's league hood, but I can't afford motifs yet so the best I can do for the rest of the pieces is Breton and Redguard shoulders. Doesn't look too bad, in fact out of all the chest pieces I am struggling to find one I like better than the plain Breton one, but I still need better colour options.

Guess I have an incentive to go play the main quest now, at least.

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Where has the time gone.

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>>175962927
>buy furious personality
>all black skyrim costume

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>>175962883

>>175963540
Recharge your weapon, edgelord.

>>175963812
>>175962883
Forgot to mention, I was tank

>>175962927
good stuff, anon. do you have Dark Brotherhood? i think their heavy stuff is pretty sleek, but i'm not sure because i only have it equipped on an xbox hueg orc. and collecting those chapters is just a matter of dailies and time (and any extra chapters you get from sacraments still sell really well). and of course everything DB has loads of built-in edge.

>>175962883
how the fuck does an ant play ESO in the first place

>>175964368

You the blue comments? I thought you were the black comments at first.

I love tanking pugs with people who use frost staff. I stop attacking, let them die, over and over again.

>>175962927

Maybe look at the ancient elf heavy chest, I think it is fairly simple and dyes well, if I recall correctly.

>>175963540

I'd like to imagine your character is voiced by David Hayter.

>>175964760
Id like to imagine that to Anon

>>175964416
>>175964617

I've previewed most of the armours with the armourer plugin; I'll probably end up going for either Xivkyn, Ra Gada (lolwings) or Mercenary.

I think have just become kind of attached to the big thigh plates on the Breton one, though, over the length of time I've been wearing it.

>>175965375

I know what you mean. I've been wearing the covenant scout cosmetic armor, which is essentially breton medium with a hood, on my vampire magblade. I'm almost level 50, and then I can equip the CP160 armor and weapons I've been holding for that character, but I've grown pretty attached to the look of the armor. It looks good, dyes well, and it just looks practical.

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>>175962927
Only reason I finished the MQ was for the Black dye it gives.

It was worth it. Best black dye.

I just want invisible pants ;_;

>>175965776
What about the soul magic ultimate? I made a baby NB alt that uses it, managed to finish the main story at level 14. Taking that character into blackwater blade, I get so much salt.

>>175965776
Looks like a zoomed-in view of a single troop in a pre-2010 RTS.

It's probably the skinny arms and stretched-looking helmet. The color scheme is pretty cool.

>>175965375
i almost mentioned Xivkyn again but wasn't sure if that would be too bulky. i bet you could make a Ra Gada chest work with the Xivkyn, though. a lot of things can be made to fit decently with some creative dyeing. and there are always guild tabards, otherwise

>Orc armor nails the look of efficient and savage
>The weapons look like they all have horrible center of gravity

My realism in this game about necromancers and magic is triggered.

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>log on to a character that is just a mule
>get what i need out of their inventory, put it into the bank
>log off, 10 second count down
>as the timer reaches 0, character blinks
>looks as if they close their eyes when they are logged off
>destined to never be played, unless i need something they are holding

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>>175967923
>My realism in this game about necromancers and magic

No need to be apologetic when talking about the center of gravity on melee weapons. It's important to ground familiar elements like medieval-style weaponry in reality, unless specifically stated otherwise like: "Magic Axe of Uncanny Proportions and Weight"

Very silly to say when talking about MMO weapons in general, but in this specific context talking about Orsimer weaponry relative to the other racial weapon designs, completely justified.

>>175968974
Don't worry, they're not real.