/rlg/ - Roguelike General

do you do zigs before or after you get the orb of zot

>>175810546
pcb hex mage win finally happened
http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=20605

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Remember to always ganbatte your best arelgee!

That image makes me surprised how much I miss oldswamp

>>175810736
Fucking thank you. Now I can play some crawl warmly

>>175810720
i think you mean "pcb Guy With Wand of Rockets win"
still, congrats to clouded

>>175810969
Guide to Killing Serpent:
Step 1: evoke rockets
Step 2: heal
Step 3: repeat

>>175811065
help i picked hasty barbarian warrior as my combo and now i have negative five million device skill and i can't even use _tele what do i do

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dont ircpost

>>175811326
fucken make me bitch I'll !rockets all I goddamn want to you're not my mom

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dont cuss either

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>get through the entire game without rockets
>Serpent is so dangerous that ranged will be the safer option in every single case regardless of build

That's just how strong the Serpent is.

>>175811541
FRICK THE HECK OFF POOPNECK

>>175810546
>owned edition
>Let's all cheer for spicerack who is currently only one rune away from being enshrined as the 5th pharaoh!

There's a lot of weird meta-commentary in this OP.

hey what the h*ck that was my metacommentary that i made last thread
write your own, OP

>>175811856
sorry
>>175811616
i did all i could

>>175811901
BTFO
T
F
O

can someone redpill me on emperor scorpions while moth of wraths are also on screen
holy fuck

>>175812530
Berserk is +50% damage and +50% action speed and +50% hp. And the extra damage makes AC offset less damage per hit, proportionally.

>>175812530
people get +1d10
monsters get 50% more damage
they hit fucking hard

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>>175810717
Doing zigs is considered haram here since areelegee is all about muh turncount muh online score
Doing zigs is a nice way of dieing

>Merfolk serving my mistress Xom
>D:1
>"Here."
>Something appears at your feet!
>Artifact amulet
>*drain +fly

God dammit Xom is the fucking best

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One day I will get my groove back. One day I may.

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Suppose a mumo grabs 11 runes. Would the Hell runes be too dangerous to pursue?

>>175813319
zig first to get more xp

>>175810717
>post-orb ziggurats

I'd honestly love it if there were an super difficulty level where going into Zot locks you in forever, and you have to complete a Ziggurat (which would contain the Orb) to get out.

Flavor-wise, the Ziggurat could be a tower going up. So, since the Dungeon+Depths+Zot is 25 floors and Zigs are 27, at the end of a Zig, you'd take the Orb to Heaven.

>>175813319
why are you hiding your name
are you playing offline

>First for Chei

I wrote a post about demonspawns after the thread was already remade because I didn't scroll enough. This is a sign?

>>175811541
rip togata

>>175813319
>no amulet
AHAHAHHAHA

>>175812530
Clarity most important resist

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>>175813420
>Flavor-wise, the Ziggurat could be a tower going up.

Anon...

>>175813319
>Suppose a mumo grabs 11 runes. Would the Hell runes be too dangerous to pursue?
No.

The most dangerous rune for MuMo is probably Gloorx because of speed 20 DU spam.

As far as hell lords go, Asmodeus requires decent itemgen to have enough rF if you want to manfight, but otherwise shouldn't be a problem assuming that the Geh:7 floor generator doesn't spawn uncrossable terrain. Ereshkigal is more or less trivial as long as you fight her solo. Antaeus hits like a truck and would be dangerous, but doable, again though the problem is the floor layout because boots of flying are for elves. Dispater might be problematic if your gear drops have been subpar, but is more or less on par with Antaeus. Mind, you can ninja all of these if you've saved enough scrolls, and doing so is definitely the smart way to go about it.

>>175810546
>taking stabs at herbshelf using a relic pic of old/rlg/ that was intended to be lighthearted

brocolee and kama would not approve of what this thread has become

in fact, i don't approve of what this thread has become

>>175813319
Coc is near guaranteed to be not-doable without flight. Geh is roughly the same. Dis and Tar are passable.
>>175814094
>Ereshkigal is more or less trivial as long as you fight her solo
Speed 14, silence, SGD, and major heal. Trivial is a bit of a stretch.

does anyone have the op's image but the bigger one with more btfo things?

>>175814419
Ereshkigal also has something like 30 EV which puts her squarely in "fuck your LCS lol, heal" territory.

Luckily, she's vulnerable to fireball

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What spells should I learn that won't conflict with my minions? Is it even worth learning big blasty ones?

ok guys i found out who the attention whoring noname mumo who doesn't reply is
he's playing online

>>175814791
MuMo dun get firbel

ponyposter better rev up that noose

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so i am a gray draconian with 18 int.
i have LCS memorized, but only to raise my earth skill.
these are my books availible, is there anything i should go for? and shatter isn't available in book yet

>>175814839
Buffs/utiliy such as Regeneration, Repel/Deflect Missiles, Switfness, Passage of Golubria
There's not much point in offensive spells unless you plan to do extended except Yred is utter shit there

>>175815809
Statue Form from Transfigurations

>owned edition
>not assgutter'd
I miss assgutter. And Bastard.

>>175816091
>>175815949
a - Cause Fear Hexes 4
b - Yara's Violent Unravelling Hexes/Transmutation 5
c - Silence Hexes/Air 5
d - Deflect Missiles Charms/Air 6
e - Haste Charms 6
f - Discord Hexes 8
Select a spell to read its description. and regeneration?

>>175813319
YOU HAVE 12 NOW, JUST STOP ALREADY YOU MADMAN

>>175816470
>hexes
literally why

>>175816493
only when somemummy gets 15 runes will we stop talking about mumo forever
he must do it

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maximum soft ground today lads

Ever since I got a 15 rune win it's like
all the mystery and magic faded

>>175816852
I hope you at least did it without too many spoilers

>>175815809
Lightning spire. Animate undead. Deflect missiles. Haste, if its still in the game. Regeneration. If you want to get cheeky, OTR, Pcloud, Parrow and Ignite poison for maximum fun. Pcloud woulds extremely well with animate undead tho, so its worth a pickup anyway.

F - a dazzling arbalest
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
_Identify which item? (\ to view known items) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
_F - the cursed +0 arbalest "Z" {flame, Str+4}

abosultely epic

>>175816852
Now you have to greaterplayer. It's one thing to beat the game with strong setups, but an entirely different thing with weaker races/classes.

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which rouge like lets me be a qt vampire girl

>>175817178
He should try to become a goodplayer™ first.

>>175816852
You should really try a lot of the cuter 3 rune combos, they bring a lot of fun to the game that really isn't there with soulless stuff like MiBe.

***LOW HITPOINT WARNING***

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I'm coming for you J

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>>175817536

>autoexploring in the shoals as a grey draconian
god damn. and the varying move speed most of it at 1.5+. just fuck my turn count up bruh

>>175817878
why aren't you a naga

>>175817878
grey draconian is such a good type
the AC bonus is priceless, no-breathing is high utility.
Grey draconian with dragonform is wild because it counteracts the one thing dragonform sucks with- defense.

>>175817878
and if i get poly'd or quaff a lig pot in deep water will i drown

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troll stronk

>>175818050
>35 str
You already hit harder than a lot of mid/endgame 3 rune dudes. Fucking a.

>>175818292
Note the 3-star piety Chei.

>>175818620
I did notice that, yes. I was simply appreciating the concentrated dark matter diesel that is at hand (claw?).

(Where) does berotato store webtiles recordings?

>>175818910
http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/ttyrec/

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definitely nothing weird about this at all

mumo is in cocytus

>>175819108
thanks lad

>>175819120
>he doesn't wear the skin of his ancestors and enemies to get their intrinsic properties

what are you, gay or something

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I was definitely feeling like the ground might be -too- soft

>>175819425
Can't you just slouch and proceed to walk right through them all?

>>175819414
>he assumes sarcasm

>>175819363
link?

Still pretty soft though

>>175819496
I'm a troll I don't know no god damn invocations I only know how to throw and maul shit

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content

>>175819596
http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-gomenpardner

>>175819619
An ancient and foul curse indeed. Don't you have your double major in CompSci and Physics to attend to?

>>175819696
Finals week is almost over, senpai a lam. Ol' VD might be done.

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>>175819619
whoops forgot my meme images

>>175819658
i had something like this happen too once

So are we going to ignore the fact that there is a 13 rune MuMo ravaging COCK at this VERY MOMENT IN TIME?

COC SEA
>but I'll pass
FUCK YOU

>>175819948
No one cares about mumo. It's a dead meme.

Get it? haha

>>175819696
Major in Comp Sci, Minor in Psychology was what I was leaning towards lately.

or maybe economics to learn the ways of the Jew

I already dropped out of art school back when I was still doing drugs so I'll certainly be well rounded enough to create the greatest roguelike of all time

if anyone's wondering, don't try to learn art just because you're terrible at it, it might make you less autistic, but at what cost?

>>175819948
he's really annoying

>>175820109
It's orb run time baby

crawl.berotato.org:8080/#lobby

>>175819948
he originally hid his name, so there's that

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this fucking game sometimes I swear

First ruk almost kills him, second one bounces off his muscles

>>175820135
>crawl.berotato.org:8080/#lobby
why was there an orb f fire in a water wall

>>175820416
To make a cozy sauna.

you know what would be a great idea
let's make a game where every single instance of damage is actually a flat random distribution between 1 and (max damage)

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are you fucking serious

is this shit for real

>>175820517
perfect solution to the troll's hunger problems
drop all your skill training and go 100% necro right now
also abandon chei for gozag

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B A L A N C E
A
L
A
N
C
E

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gj

He did it
Ponyposter on suicide watch
What the hell clever titles will this dude even get

>inb4 mumo rules are changed again so artefacts are banned

>>175821043
Gomenpardner
Novice inscriber, Fister savant, godking pharaoh last of the line

>tfw too late to see dicks posting
>but just in time for the greatest of all mumo ascensions

>And so MuMo ended
>For all the excitement of the spiced panpounder, it was the silent fist of the west who walked the true path

Did our one true Pharaoh follow all conducts?

This is ponyposter right? isn't he also the one who did the vampire convict challenge?

>>175821948
no it's someone else
ponyposter already won a mumo under the name boltzmannconstant

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post your current runs, friends.
I'm playing a Beastman for the first time and currently have an acute sense of smell, a trunk, and short, stubby legs.

>>175821316
gomenpardner here
Welcomer of Woe and Treader of the Brink

>>175822053
>>175822160
who is this mysterious man

how many tries did it take

>>175822278
he apparently won it exactly on his 150th try (under the gomenpardner name, obvs)

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/gomenpardner.html

http://www.berotato.org/crawl/ttyrec/gomenpardner/
mumo recordings

Is this a meme or is mumo over

>>175813002
I think zigs are decent for spellcasters who want a better turncount, once you get Vehumet + firestorm a zig is only a few hundred turns, and massive XP which lets you bypass a lot of shits in the rest of the game

>>175823029
How can you eclipse one so blessed by Ra?

>>175823140
ASCII
15 runes
all uniques killed
sub 150k tum count
sub 12 hour real time count
no cheesy bullshit or loopholes like boots of flying wielding, OoD scumming, infinite level grinding, huge bonus stats, etc.
no shields
no artifacts

Is mumo solved

>>175823503
Shed your avarice for perceived purity anon. All mummies must crawl through the dirt before they have their time in the sun. How much more must we endure before it is enough?

>>175810546
You're an unfunny idiot.

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>>175810736

I'll do my best! To die that is. Aaahhhh I want to die

>>175822594
Looks like the winner starts here:
http://www.berotato.org/crawl/ttyrec/gomenpardner/2017-05-01.07:13:52.ttyrec.bz2

you can just use jettyplayer if you don't want to futz with ttyrec stuff online

it appears to be almost 40 files
clocking in at over 17 riveting hours

>>175824449
>Ant of chei
Such suffering.

>>175813319
Uh
UUUUUUH
WHAT

>>175815804
I'M TOO YOUNG TO DIE
This is the worst morning

>>175824449
why do you want to die anon
it looks like a great character

You horrible Little man
How dare you win a mumo without posting Your name until the end
Also why didn't you 15 rune it
Did you want to give spiceman a chance

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>>175824995
he actually did post his name a couple times i think
he hid it when he started getting successful though, maybe to not jinx his run, or maybe to give herb boi the spotlight yea

>>175824995
He didn't want to scum for blink/tele, especially with that cock layout.

>>175821039
>stupidly good turncount
>never wore a buckler
>never thew things
>more than twice the needed amount of runes

I am agog
I am aghast
Is mumo really won at last

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>>175824995
hubris is a helluva drug

>>175825123
The most halal mumo to ever tread the sands
I bow my head in respect to the one true pharaoh

>>175824995
The tele situation was getting dire which meant no visit to Gehenna. Cocytus 7 had a water layout, probably would've been impossible without burning 5 or more scrolls just to reach the island with the rune on it.

And Dis was just some real fucking shit, man. I wouldn't wish that on any mumo.

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burned 3 !HW on this fucker

tfw the new pharaoh was watching me try to remember how to energy scum and evoke staircase like a week ago

>>175825642
What all happened in Dis?

>>175825830
Protip, Nessos dies to 2 slouches.

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ctrl+Q my life

since when is snorg this diesel

>>175812487
>The answer doesn't matter.
>it doesn't matter because muh feelings
you are responsible for your actions

>>175825890
again,
>troll
>D:12
>invocations

And now we wait for the enshrinement and naming of the pharaoh in the great mumofesto in the cloud so that he might be gawked at with wonder and puzzlement for all eternity
And the inevitable change of the rules
And the suicide of the third pharaoh who just couldn't deal

is anyone even going to watch the ttyrecs this time around or what

>The sun rose at last, and the Pharaoh walked before us. Through the dunes, carefully picking his way through the shifting sands. Scorched by hellfire, he had cast down the heretics. The path realized, the glimmer of gold upon his somber brow. There were no words on this auspicious occasion. Only silence, broken by a bent knee.

>>175825875
Hell sentinels are a mumo's worst enemy. Imagine you kill one, and you're stuck at 50% HP because that's what hellfire does no matter what. Now you have to walk back to the stairs just so you don't get buttblasted again.

Now you have to recover 100-150 HP (which is a 200-300 turn process) where every 20 turns you get a hell effect, many of which are greater demons and reapers and more hell sentinels being summoned on top of you.

Now imagine you have to get through 15 hell sentinels just to reach the rune.

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>>175826785
>10,000 turns in Dis

>>175826096
I meant that your answer doesn't matter to me or to the context of my questions anon.

>109292 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 17 in Unarmed Combat
>109576 | Vaults:2 | HP: 1/157 [yaktaur/ steel bolt[a vault warden] (12)]
>109577 | Vaults:2 | just one of those days
>109992 | Vaults:2 | vaults are not fun as a mumo
>109992 | Vaults:2 | most of the game isn't fun as a mumo, in fact

This morgue is a goldmine
>all those early artifact rings with slaying he had to cast into the lava
Except for Shaolin dude only got those good artifact boots and that's only at vaults:4

He is pure as they come

>>175827038
it doesn't matter to (You) because you're going all feels over reals right now.

Shut up about notroguelikes on this joyous occasion and contemplate the purity of the firstfourth true pharaoh to have walked the sands

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Sword and board again, it seems.

>>175827229
my dick

>>175826405
I don't even know how

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I have been TRICKED.

>>175827138
What you're basically saying is that you were so overwhelmed by your own emotions that you cast them aside out of sheer cowardice and now live in terror believing it to be totally impossible to have any control over your life, afraid to love anything because of your complete lack of confidence in your own ability to defend it

>>175827481
no, what i'm basically saying is what i'm literally saying
you just ignore my clearly laid out reasons and try to change the conversation to feels and projections
you are responsible for your actions. you do not have perfect control over the world, stop these delusions of grandeur.

Shut the fuck up you pseudo-intellectual retards.

>>175827337
get ttyrec player
go to web page with mumo's ttyrecs
download
watch

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>>175824892

I like dying and trying to die. They're my hobbies.

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What a run. What a run, indeed.

>>175827569
>I do not have perfect control
>therefor I have zero control and everything is futile and I will never ever love or hope for anything
>better just give up before I ever have the chance to fail
>might as well become one of the shitters who ruin things for other people and constantly spread my bad attitude and sabotage other people lest anyone ever prove me wrong
>that's how everyone else should be and the only thing that makes sense so it better be the way I am less I miss out on the fleeting high of consumption and degradation
>I wouldn't want to miss out on all the drugs and rape
sounds pretty cowardly

>>175810546
>all these faults
The naga one walking into 3 fiends is the best

>>175827217
6th tho

>>175827720
anon go post on reddit if you want your safe space, you clearly don't enjoy free speech or reality

>>175828154

Is this pharaoh posted in reddit yet?

>>175828006
are you the same low monkey from last thread? with the way you give yourself artistic license to project projection it sure seems like it. did you not read anything i said or do you just enjoy paraphrasing?

you don't have perfect control over the world, you already admitted this but your feels prevent you from taking the next logical step

>>175827720
*pseudoelli"posmychengbum"-r(etards)

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Haha.

>>175828295
You think you've conquered emotion when actually you're a slave to it and it motivates or prevents every action you take, every thing you would wish for. You believe yourself to be rational when really you're consumed by nothing but frustration and fear. Your thoughts and emotions are indivisible; you have not the strength to feel and make decisions at the same time, so you choose not to feel, not knowing that you cease to make your own choices as well. Instead you live for nothing but to avoid suffering, having not the courage to see what you could attain if you chose to struggle. You only see only futility and meaninglessness in the world around you, because it's a reflection of the weakness and failure that is the only thing you expect from yourself.

>>175828850
do you seriously think there is any chance that you giving me my life story is going to be taken as anything other than massive projection?
there's no need to respond to this, it's literally shit i'm not saying, so i'll just repeat what i actually said once again, you don't control the world, therefore for you to place something vulnerable in a hazardous environment counts as negligence. yes, i know it hurts your feelings but that's how it is. it has nothing to do with personal success or the unwillingness to take risks to achieve it, you're free to take risks for yourself, you're not free to take risks on someone else's behalf.

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Dear diary, I wish Veronica would stop arguing with himself.

>>175829031
then create a new environment. change the environment you're in. you give up before even trying to do anything.

>>175829172
you realize this is some gurren lagann logic you're giving me m8, i can't even tell if you're being serious, it's the definition of feels over reals. how are you going to make sure your kid isn't going to be born with cancer?

what have you DONE

>>175817316
quite a few....nethack, poschengband, dcss at least

>>175829261
are you saying if you tried to have a child and they ended up having a disease you would wish they were never born instead? you're never going to try to do anything because something bad might happen and you won't be able to deal with it if it does?

that's the whole reason humans are able to shit out so many babies you fucking retard
just keep making them until one of them sticks
like your shitty 5000 mumo attempts

>>175817557
>A: Charm Animal
nerf nao

>>175821039
aww yiss

>>175829498
serpents are animals right

>>175827385
>not taking keen senses

>>175829450
for the third time it's not about my dealing with failure, it's about responsibility. misfortune falling on your kid is not just personal failure you narcissist, it's you imposing suffering on a different person. please understand that the "you shouldn't have kids" argument is not the same as the "life sux" argument, because a kid being NOT YOU changes things

>>175829585
regular serpents are but of chaos serpent is only evil

>>175829650
but if it came from me i own it forever unless i sell it into slavery from which it is manumissed three separate times

>>175829650
because if it's not your kid you and everyone else who isn't their parent doesn't have to do anything and feels nothing phew conscience cleared amirite

you complete lack of justice and indignation and compassion and utter submission is absolutely astounding and I think you must have been raised muslim or something equally tragic

>>175817557
fyi rogues get bonuses to sling shooting speed (scaling with level) and master skillcap iirc, though they're pretty decent at most shooters.

>>175829863
>because if it's not your kid you
what are you talking about? anyone that has kids, that kid is theirs by definition, it's a tautology. hypothetically it is your or mine kid, and we're discussing the morality of this action. do you have brain problems?

>you complete lack of justice and indignation and compassion and utter submission is absolutely astounding and I think you must have been raised muslim or something equally tragic
are you drunk?

>>175830000
There are kids alive right now, and there were kids existing at the exact moment when you decided upon this bizarre pseudo-morality, who you were choosing to abandon rather than do anything to help, hoping instead that no more of them would exist and all of us would die off instead. Instead of blaming any of the forces that make children suffer, you blame the children for being born. How convenient that you chose the one that can do nothing to resist or retaliate.

>>175829650
>>175830000

These are the fabled effects of loneliness and virginity lads. Don't be like this guy and follow your dreams.

>>175830379
i honestly feel like i'm talking to a genuine retard right now. do you realize how cumbersome it is to undo all your nonsense every single post? it's like you live in your own little world, it's depressing knowing that you'll just ignore everything i say and go off on a monologue, are we even having the same conversation? i'm starting to suspect we never have.

i'm not abandoning children, but if i did, it would have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE antinatalist argument. i am blaming the forces that make children suffer, the parents that force them into existence.

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>>175830437
>my dreams

>>175830437
your complete lack of response to the very elementary argument presented to you kind of takes the wind out of your attempt make fun of me m8.

what is morality
what is its purpose

>>175830920
a spook

>>175830920
Its not grid based (though some find it easier to believe so) so it doesn't belong in this thread. (though some seem dedicated to believing it does).

>>175830992
if i want to post off topic, who can stop me!

>>175830920

it has no compelling reason to exist
it has high tumcount
it should be removed

>>175830574
I like how you make your decision before the wishes of any child are even taken into consideration, as though they themselves would automatically wish for death or not want to live, or does it even matter what they wish for?

really it's not about the kids is it, it's not that the kids are suffering, it's about what you have to feel because of them, it's just about you being unhappy and wanting to avoid your own discomfort

>>175831082
>like how you make your decision before the wishes of any child are even taken into consideration
you mean kind of like how parents bring children into the world and only asking for their opinion afterwards? yeah i think that's really twisted, too.
even if the kid is later thankful for being born, it still makes no difference to my argument. if you were capable of processing abstract logic you would realize this.

>even more projections
i'm losing faith in humanity

>>175829457
I'm not every shitposter in the thread anonymous
As a matter of fact I never bother with internet arguments

>>175831227
sorry for pooping on you my muman
i actually like your runs
you're the only one that keeps the mumo spirit alive in this thread
you're like the mascot for the conduct
please don't kill yourself, that would be immoral

OFF YOURSELF YOU FUCKING PASTAFROG WOP

what is a pastafrog

>>175831297
Anon you have to understand only 33% of what I say here is true
I'm actually really happy about this run you did a great job
Also dicks will walk the thread again
I was so happy when he came by to spectate me
I merely warmed up the seat for all this time like the steward of go for wsiting for the king
But unlike him I will not burn myself

>>175831565
>The steward of go for waiting for the king *

>>175831082
i just realized i may have been a bit unfair or harsh in my words, so i wanted to explain why i'm so critical of your way of arguing. i've made a simple argument, having kids is placing something vulnerable in a hazardous environment, and is therefore negligent. my expectation was that you'd respond to that, because that's the principle behind my position. the only way to attack my position is to attack some component of that. do you disagree that parents have moral responsibility over the lives of their children? do they only have responsibility when they're young? do you disagree that negligence is bad on principle? is it an unreasonable demand to make of people to deny their nature and not have kids? the topic of antinatalism and morality in general is very complex and there are many different objections you could bring up that would actually require effort to respond to, but you're seemingly hell bent on doing ANYTHING but that, you come at me from all these different directions except the only ones that i care to respond to, and you make all sorts of personal attacks and guesses at my hidden motive. i hate kids? i hate life? what the fuck, just address my argument or stop trolling me

TIE THE NOOSE YOU LITERAL (LITERAL) SHITHORSE

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>175831193
>you mean kind of like how parents bring children into the world and only asking for their opinion afterwards? yeah i think that's really twisted, too.
>even if the kid is later thankful for being born, it still makes no difference
because you'll be upset regardless of how the child feels, whether it's life is happy or sad, whether it's safe or not, whether it's abused or goes through life without ever suffering at all

the only thing that really matters to you is your own obsessive compulsion and perfectionism, your own all consuming selfishness

how ironic then that all your beliefs are predicated on a complete lack of confidence.

how insane it is that you have such inability to differentiate any form of suffering from another, that you lay the blame of injustice on life itself instead of the kind of evil you perpetuate at this very moment

utterly incapable of acknowledging your own guilt for betraying others in the same way you were betrayed yourself

children suffer because people abuse them, because people neglect them, because people did not plan for them and guide them or teach them, because people did not fight for them or protect them, because justice and compassion were forgotten, because the ground was too hard, because they just needed to worry about their own feelings instead, because they were just like you

seeing all human beings as monsters, and having not the courage to become a hero instead, you instead choose to be nothing at all and see it as the highest ideal for all others to do the same, how selfish of them to not give up on life itself like you do

Virtue, Justice, Compassion, Love, and all things good lay slain at the feet of Apathy and Cowardice

not with a bang, but with a sniveling whimper uttered from your petulant lips

>>175831227
I love you ponyposter will you be my girlfriend even though I argue and splat a lot and don't press 5

>>175831635
THE STEWARD
OF GONDOR
YOU PIECE OF SHIT PHONE

>>175831803
it's like you literally have psychosis
i never once in my entire life experienced such an unbridgeable gap in communication, none of what you say is in any way based on my words, you're talking to a phantasm, like you have some tulpa of me in your mind. i give up. if you're trolling well done you sure got me

>>175831638
your argument is just a mask, it's a petty contrivance of which I have no interest in, but what is the soul that speaks such words? that is what must always be under examination, the source of actions that will produce future actions

>>175831865
Sorry anon but I'm waiting for my sex change to be legally married with the Amy

Anyway is anyone playing pcb-R
I think I might give my yeek alchemist another go

>>175831987
>i can read minds and have no need to address words
kek, i get it now it's ok

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Not roguelikes.

>>175832365
>almost a year after the last win
One pharaon each year to rule

this is the worst thread in the history of /rlg/, a fucking mumo won but all you people are doing is shitting up the place

>>175831997
oh sorry I can't be with someone who gets SRS

also please don't do that it's psychologically not very good for you and could result in real suicide, just find someone who will be nice to your feminine penis and kiss your forehead and learn to love yourself for the special kind of girl you are

>>175832538
if a mumo won but nobody observed it, did it really happen?

>>175832365
is that you dicks
when will you ascend the 15 rune 0.15 mumo of 150k turns of 15 hours realtime with 150 tries and diving to zig:15

>>175832068
only sometimes anon, only when it's important

what's really going on here is that what you communicate, what you feel, what you transmit is not the same thing as what you -want- to communicate, between the words, micro-expressions between expressions, the gut reaction that bleeds through your thoughts and out of your lips before you can filter yourself, and even the things that your filter is composed of, and why any person, not just you, would make such constructs and displays and perform such an act, that says a lot more than just the thing that you want me to think you're saying

roguelikes

>>175832365
>Unmaker of Curses and Champion of the Law
Are these the most metal titles yet?

>>175832723
no what's really going on is that something about my tone of posting evoked some associations, i reminded you of a certain personality type and now you're convinced you understand me 100% down to the last detail. you do this because you lack self restraint and are generally stupid.

Congrats to the new MuMo champion! Which runes did he miss?

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>>175832365
>that aura of sheer power and determination

Neat

>>175832809
fire and ice

>>175832538
seems like a reason to mourn rather than celebrate, the journey without end and those that continued to struggle even after endless defeat was a more beautiful thing to me than the victory itself

>>175832527
Next one will be spicerack doing a 15 rune mumo, I can feel it.
It's going to be a nice 2018.

>>175832885
end ur life my ponyposter

>>175832880
fire as in fiery or obsidian?

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>>175833005
Why do you have such a hateboner for my persona

Can't you celebrate this joyous day like everyone else
we're got a double-halal mumo and then some here

13 runes anon
I didn't even think that was a possible thing

>>175832786
>2017
>Stephen Hawking still can't see past his nose

>>175832772
>first pharaoh to totally adhere to the conduct
>Champion of the Law
will other pharaohs ever recover? i think not.

>>175833101
was i supposed to be memed by this post?

>>175833121
What's with the "unmaker of curses"?
Aralgeean curses?
Hubris?

>>175832943
Spicerack the Invulnerable
Pillarmancer and Tyrant of Time

>>175833175
It'd be nice to actually get a new title other than grand master
what's the 27 dodging title

>still no egyptian themed roguelike where you go through a maze in a pyramid, retrieve the pharoahs brain in a jar and travel to the underworld to kill anubis

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Let the games begin! A free pair of speed boots (randomized appearance "winter stilettos") to all those who make it past dungeon level 3, and the pair of gauntlets of reflection "Larissa's Decorum" is reserved as the winner's prize!

>>175833121
I don't think there's a way that anyone can even remotely shitpost about his win
he's untouchable

>>175833313
Redpill me on the camperstriker class
I get that amnesiac forgets bits of his screen and probably even of his inventory and ironman can't go up
also that sounds horribly annoying to play

>>175833068
we theorycrafted long ago during the double pharaoh christmas that 15 rune mumo is definitely possible
the number of turns needed would widely vary depending on how many crutches were dropped earlier; coc sea is doable with only tele/blink but would obviously need a crazy amount of grinding or insane luck

>>175833249
http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Titles
Fighting = Conqueror
Dodging = Intangible
Shields = Mummy Barricade
Unarmed Combat = Grandmaster (dex?) / Middleweight Champion (str)
Stealth = Ninja
Armor = Invulnerable

>>175833005
He skipped Cocytus because can't fly and low tele, and skipped Gehenna because scared

>>175833121
>kept the orb aura while all the other pharaohs didn't
Whoever has eyes to see, let them see.

>>175833425
>coc sea is doable with only tele/blink
Flying is halal if you can find it.

>>175833413
Camperstriker: starts with heavily cursed equipment, nasty traps don't get the reduction in spawn chance they get for all other roles
Amnesiac: can't remember the map layout
Ironman: like ToME/PCB/Angband's ironman rooms - every room is a special room (dlvl1 is grace period 9 out of 10 times)
X-race: internally changes how the RNG works when certain random number functions are called

>>175833313
I have never seen anything more cancerous than this image.

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>>175833492
Why in god's name

there are too many people in this general that i intensely hate. this is starting be unhealthy

>>175833313
this literally made me laugh

>>175833316
i dunno he pussied out of fire h*ck
he also hid his name which was kinda shady i guess
reflection shield is like having ranged attacks too so that's kinda haram but it's funny and you don't have to ask so i dunno

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>>175833528
What about cancer stars

>>175833597
How about you take it easy

>>175833667
your mother takes it easy

>>175833101
Stephen Hawking doesn't believe in ESP either, but both of you are wrong. It doesn't really matter how smart a person is, they still believe in horseshit that isn't true if they lack experience.

>tfw the thing you look forward to the most regarding mumo are just the new titles
someone please win after summer's over so the oof gets a raincoat :3

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I don't think this is going to work

>>175833737
And get a new skill title for christs sake
Chief of staff is reserved for dck tho

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Joyous day

>>175833862
what
was this conduct made specifically for you by The Amy or can anyone play

>>175833904
That's how I call my slime molds

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Ah yes.
The typical "now every single message in the game is replaced by this phrase" trap.
A timeless classic.

And then I went downstairs and a bunch of mobs oneshot me

Truly the epitome of fun

Sorry but I'd rather sit down and play another 5 thousand mumos

Though the trap was probably an amnesiac trait character and it cleared up when I left the level

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>>175832365
Did you actually notice that the first two pharaohs won in december and then the other two won in may
what is this crazy coincidence

>>175834295
>Did you actually notice that the first two pharaohs won in december and then the other two won in may
>what is this crazy coincidence
play MuMo nonstop when you fail your finals

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>>175835568
At last I truly see.

>>175834161
Ironman mode. The mobs were probably from a nearby special room that must have been woken up somehow.

>>175812023
Ah, but I am not a fool, and thus I will not argue.

Play any enjoyable roguelikes lately?

>>175836514
spelunky

>>175812023
you just suck at arguing.

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Unhappy with my latest yeek, I decided to roll a permacursed_sword maledict this time. I've set up some maledict-only quest rewards, perma_cursed items of dubious value, one of which is the unlucky coin, the other the pendant of nightmares.

Playing a runesword wielder made me realize that the best strat is to grab a crossbow and some bolts right off the bat, it's crazy good for everyone. Espeecially when you can't hit for shit like me.

>Gnolls now go to -9
Why would they NERF them?
They now need as much xp to get askill to 27 as it takes for a human to get SIX different skills to 27

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>>175830983
We mustn't forget

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What a lucky find. I guess I can dick around the dragon areas then.

>>175839032
Inb4 killed by teleport resistance

>>175839087
I have no sinv yet so I could just get BTFO by "It breathes shards".

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Thankfully this nice orc pack chilling in a high level area fixed that small detail already.

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Aw yiss

>>175839694
pcb items always just read like random letters

>you see here a chain mail of the alphabet soup

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Curses are actually kinda neat, they can stun enemies and other stuff.

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This gentleman refuses a hundred and fifty cuts of cooked meat because they're of too low quality
This might actually be a good game-change, honestly.

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One of the reasons I play yeeks is because I loathe having my early gear being completely corroded even through 3 pips of acid resistance
Seriously what gives
I will never be able to enchant that jingasa back to +13 in my lifetime you piece of shit

>>175841136
Kill him

Oh hey ubbo dropped her jacket
super neat

ok, i've downloaded DCSS 0.19.5 and completed the tutorial
what are the mumo chalange requirements, just things from >>175832365 ?

>>175841780
He has over twenty friends and I am but a man with a spear, I'm afraid.
(They also trash-talk you all over the continent, the wusses)

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>>175842740
Wrong thread, I think

>>175842714
>never played the game
>i want to play hardest thing
There is a reason only 4 people did it in a year

>>175843341
Such is the might of memes

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>mfw found I could find and use shopping carts in DDA for like infinite storage

>>175843341
>in a year
3 years

>>175843341
and that reason is, only autists play roguelikes :^)

>>175843341
Its by far not the hardest conduct
Also not a lot of people find it enjoyable

>>175841780
Which areas do you use for dragons? Can I kill a durrgin with one pip resistance and 100 hp? This is important, pls respond.

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>>175843447
Sorry, wasnt along for a long time and i came around to see how things are going now.

Here, have my old octopode some drawfag liked.
Shame mutations got nerfed up the ass.

Those antmen looks fun.

>>175843431
>cheering while crying
this is the best webm I've ever seen

>>175844092
>Can I kill a durrgin with one pip resistance and 100 hp
No. Even going there without 300 HP is really unadvisable because of shardbreath.
stop trying to play sorcerers
You just coast the mountainous area southeast of the stronghold.

>>175844121
Oh man that's neat

>>175844043
Name one conduct harder than MuMo

>>175844290
MuMo without shields, no lair/orc/vaults and only hell+pan runes

>>175844278
But I could avoid shard breathers with telepathy, detection and other superior sorcery. Only trouble is that I didnt quite get extent of damage from ancient dragons, red\blue\white barely scratched me through triple resistance while golden one one shot me, I had no sound resistance though.
Other classes are boring though

>>175844472
>But I could avoid shard breathers with telepathy, detection and other superior sorcery

have you ever asked yourself why you keep dying to breathers

Also there's gwaihir the shitlord that will fuck you up

>>175844571
I have to say that I've died to breather only once legit way. Death where I landed on bunch of nexus hounds after bad TP does not count.
Gwaihir doesnt follow teleports nor breathes bullshit, isnt he?
Honestly going though stronghold>icky>lone mountain gone a bit stale I am looking for shortcut.

>newbie to dcss
>always hear that abyss is the easiest depths branch
>well fuck it I got like 50 food let's go
>constantly swarmed by at least 20 enemies at once
>random hellions raping my HP
>chugging haste potions and zapping self repeatedly with heal wounds wand
>by a miracle find an exit while I'm being gangraped by 50 enemies
>barely survive somehow

was this just Qazlal making this area impossible with noise or is abyss supposed to be this brutal?

I'm guessing you're supposed to do this area with Zin?

Aaand died trying to get to those sweet sweet hell hounds of julian.
Darn.

>>175845606
Qazlal makes abyss even more horrible than it already is. You were trolled.
There are no depths branches. Go do Vaults but not the ending or just do Depths, then win.

>>175845606
>abyss is the easiest depths branch
>QazLOUD
Yeah, you fucked up, kuzlel is worst god for doing abyss due to him attracting everything around you. And who the hell calls abyss "a depth branch"?

Qaz actually makes abyss easy now that you spawn exits and stairs with kills

>>175845871
>>175845881
Well I meant "areas you could enter from the depths"

>>175845989
You might be able to burn piety and clear the Vestibule of Hell, but at that point all that's really left to do that isn't extended is Vaults/Crypt/Elf/Vestibule/Zot

>>175846094
I don't really care about winning so I'm going to attempt extended at some point

So I'm guessing the order now is to clear out Depths, try Vault:5, then.... what? Crypt I guess?

>>175844264
>you will never let the power of hulkamania take over and make you forget all your pain

>>175846262
Crypt is easier than V:5 but if you want TSO piety you swap then, and I don't even know what Zin needs for piety.

>>175844264
I love how the dude gives him headpats to soothe the pain

>>175846425
how about that Bubbles, huh

>>175846791
green goblin comin through

>>175837896
i just finished watching this. was he high on coke? he kept sniffing and rubbing his nose

I just spent a moment to contemplate the meaning of life and it made me realize how important flavor is in crawl.

>>175844290
MuCK

>>175851512
>sit in temple until you have all artefact gear

>>175842869
I wish, friend, I wish.

>>175851551
>Die when Xom abyss's you

Wish me luck, going to learn Python by programming a roguelike. Not aiming for anything groundbreaking, Just a couple levels and some varied critters to kill.

>>175851551
>Xom is BORED

>>175847808
he says 'allergies', everyone that loves him says 'cocaine'

sniff

>>175851997
Allergy to cocaine

>>175851512
Having beaten both MuMo and MuCK, no.

MuMo is harder. Locking out weapons, body armour, evokables, spells, slaying, and regen, is vastly more dangerous than dealing with irresistable uncurable confusion once in a while. The other thing about Xom is that half the time he actually helps you, which cannot be said about anything MuMo.

You didn't fucking win your MuMo basil
You suicided in a Zig

>>175853742
Guess again

In smaller Crawl trunk news, scarves of cold resistance have been removed, so scarves are guaranteed to have a semi-useful ego (equal chance of RMsl, spirit shield, or resistance).

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>>175837896
In thish moment *sniff*, by means of pershonal feelings and sho on *swish*, roguelikes and so on are a what Lacan would call the jouissance. But not becauje, you know, of any phony liberalism and totalitarianist ideology. Political, buddhism materialism and sho on. No, no *snort*... But becauje, you see, *swallows fly* of marxshist dialectic in the sense of the foucaultian genealogical method, *tugs shirt* there is this *sniff* enlightened shuffering that comes with tolerance, genocide, *unintentional voiced linguolabial trill* hating roguelites, analogous to *wipes nose* some religious prophecy *sweats profusely* and sho on! *snort*

>>175853894
Just what Stone Soup needed, more floorjunk to filter through!

Also, these threads are fucking disgusting now

>>175854131
Filtering through loot is the best part of these games

t. someone who gets an erection going through the aftermath of killing 100+ orcs in PCB

>>175854252
Will you die if you kill a roomful of dragons?

>>175854252
have you considered playing Cataclysm
it's basically a floor loot simulator, and they've put so much interface junk into it, it's great
currently reorganizing my car after I extended it but it's taking forever.

>>175853558
But how about MuCK, but with MuMo rules along with the addition of 'no abandoning Xom'?

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>>175854752
Yes, I sorted literally everything I found onto their appropriate shelves in my base, a heavily converted evac shelter. Then I got too autistic for even that and started playing Aurora.

>>175853894
You can still get the useless new +rCloud

>>175855553
I had a trunk full of absolutely nothing but rags and that was when I decided I needed to clean my car

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Why is this allowed

>>175855927
That helmet isn't nearly mikee_ enough

>>175855584
Eh, not useless, but certainly situational as hell. Ice Cave and Volcano would be much more survivable, along with the icy simulacrum and undeead endings for Swamp:4 -- in fact, Swamp would be fully doable without rPois, since that would remove the dangers of mephitic clouds and poison clouds.

>>175855390
>But how about MuCK, but with MuMo rules along with the addition of 'no abandoning Xom'?
The thing about MuCK is that Xom gifts you with ?acquirement effects often enough that by the end of a 3 rune, you've probably gotten some nice stuff. You can also manipulate Xom's tension, to an extent, by manipulating the amount of enemies you allow onscreen while monitoring your HP. This allows you to exercise some influence preventing the worst Xom effects, most of the time.

MuCK with MuMo rules sounds mostly easier *but more random in an unfun way* than plain MuMo, because you'd be receiving help in the form of gifts and friendly summons, at the cost of occasionally probably-splatting your character to hostile summons+confuse.

>>175855970
but his work here is done
>2017
>not ircposting

>>175857107
he lives on in my heart and in my slaying

>>175857632
enjoy that helm of ares then and dogspeed

>>175855553
>5553
so close

>>175856384
You're right, it seems far less /pure/ than regular MuMo. It does lose that existentialism aspect, too.

Rest in peace, 'P'ray

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Does it give some amount of experience or just a level so I better keep it stashed for later?

>>175855927
What exactly?

>>175859660
>D:2
>insanely good randart

>>175859698
So? Just carry on and get your easy 3 runes

>>175837168
That's because arguing isn't fun so I simply state what is correct and allow you to realize it much later.

so i got murdered by pertrification on my grey drac. thank god that is over with. felt retarded. this black drac is super fun though, exploding electric breath and static discharging whole crowds down while swinging a +4 war axe of electrocution