/domg/ - Dominions General

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>>175638802
Motherfucker.

>Noob questions answered
http://web.archive.org/web/20150430021604/http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/core-mp-concepts-that-i-wish-somebody-had-told-me-about/

>Pretender designer
http://bsielski.github.io/pretenders/

>Debugger guide and download
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=36453&highlight=debug

>>175638802
Your picture makes me angry because it reminds me quad bless Ermor is completely unviable with summod since you need an awake pretender.

>>175639521
Good. If you never won as rainbow Ermor, you don't deserve to lead skellingtons.

>>175576796
>My assumption is that he has failed his expansion
You'd be wrong. I am currently eating him.

I didn't notice until now, but it seems like he started staling on the first turn I hit him.

REMOVE SHINUYAMA

>>175646117
>removing one of the weakest nations in the game
Just do it yourself, you don't need our help.

>>175646117
Game: MagusAssistance
Turn number 3
Next turn due: 10:47 GMT on Tuesday May 2nd


Abysia 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
>Shinuyama Waiting for 2h file
Bandar Log 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Ys 2h file received

Last updated at 07:55 GMT on Tuesday May 2nd
Current time: 07:55 GMT

REMOVE AND RESTART

>>175646383

Did he do a single turn or is that a troll?

>>175652095
Turn 1 then chain stale.

>>175646383
Postponed hosting 12h.

If anyone is interested in subbing Shinuyama with 1 (one) staled turn, let me know. I have no idea what's their build.

If not, I'll set them AI.

>>175646383
>RESTART
Sounds like someone lost his awake :^)

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>>175653409
>inb4 it's Shinu who fucked up and is trying to force a restart

5d chess

>>175655231
t.malakal

>>175653329
Sure hope I'm next to all that free land

>>175657109

I'm taking the free cap to snowball out of control :^)

>>175657109
To be fair, it's Shinuyama we're talking about. AI or not, it's free land anyway.

Hey, I had issues with pbem manager
can we get a rollback?

>>175659343
I don't know what kind of innovative strategy you're trying for Malakal, but it won't work on us

>>175659635
cmon
its just turn3

>>175660451
Considering you would have staled twice before you posted anything and the host had to extend the turn you got a stale message on, I vote no.

>>175661346
ded ichtyid

How's FastTurns going? You guys have been quiet

>>175663306
fast

>>175663306
Xib is dead. Saur and Mictlan are in power. Therodos is no longer relevant because BoT is down. Yomi ai so everyone is eating. Mictlan is actually spamming horrors at everyone.

>>175663612
That's not Mictlan it's me.

Water nations are inherently weak. Not because of their troops, though units that can't be used against >90% (literally) of nations is bad design. Not because of their mages, though "being X but underwater" is a terrible gimmick. But because of terrain.

Water provinces are strategically different to land provinces: you always have MM:1, you always have a multitude of neighbors, and your lands are always treated as a natural barrier.

As a natural barrier, they are spread out between landmasses, so a nation that mostly owns water provinces will be spread artificially thin; though their territory may only be ~20 provinces, they will own large, long provinces of ocean that border half-a-dozen other nations and have 4 land-connections each.

Not only that, they will take much longer to traverse than similarly sized land-based nations, have less population, and severely restrict site diversity.

Finally, since maps are made with land-nations in mind, water provinces are often severely limited in number. As water nations can at best recruit national units and commanders from the coast, this restricts their production capability, especially its expansion. A water nation that successfully conquers a land nation may have double the gems and triple the gold, but they'll still only have as many mage-recruiting sites as they started with, bar forting more UW provinces; not an issue that land nations are troubled with.

There are things that modders have done to improve the lot of the UW nation, but frankly, UW nations should just be made into land nations until the whole terrain issue is fixed.

>>175666438
There is a whole slew of arguments as to why UW nations are pseudo-balanced due to all the points you've listed, but foodcoma is hitting me hard right now and I'm gonna take a nap.

>>175663612
>Xib is dead
I'm putting EXTRA bane venoms in your stockings this christmas.

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>>175666438
Just expand on land you dum-dum.

>>175668274
During the expansion phase? If you prioritize it over oceanic provinces you start producing mages and troops later than other nations. If you wait until you've started on your first fort, it's probably been taken already.

also the one time I tried they called me calamari and bullied me back into the sea

>>175668805
>During the expansion phase?

During the whole game.

>If you prioritize it over oceanic provinces you start producing mages and troops later than other nations.

Why is that?

>also the one time I tried they called me calamari and bullied me back into the sea

Don't let them bully you. Remind them that unless they plan on paying another aquatic-capable nation to kill you attacking you means they will have to deal with you raiding them for the entire remainder of the game. If I see uw-fags on land and I have no means to go uw and fuck them up I usually let them keep their land. Better than creating a bitter enemy that I can never fully defeat.

>if a unit with regeneration gets diseased, they don't lose HP but continually gain afflictions until they're worthless
Glad I learned this before my event-gained Circle Master died. He became Mute but I empowered him and cast Blood Feast to cure him so now I just gotta hunt up 140 more virgins and I'll have my first Earthblood Stone.
>>175669113
>During the whole game.
But the issue is that you can recruit absolutely nothing from non-coastal provinces and barely anything from coastal provinces, in a game where maps are primarily land; other nations get more forts that can recruit more mages, and more troops when they conquer another nation, UW nations don't.
>Why is that?
Because UW nations can't recruit their best units from the coast if they can recruit from the coast at all.
>[the rest]
Fortunately for them the other UW nation decided it didn't like my squidface and killed me less than a year afterward.

>>175670198
>Because UW nations can't recruit their best units from the coast if they can recruit from the coast at all.

You blob on land mostly and use the money from that to make underwater forts. Were you under the impression that I said you shouldn't take any UW provinces at all??

>>175670775
No, I was saying that if you go after land provinces before water provinces, which is what you'll need to do to get there before land nations, you will not be able to start up an UW fort as quickly as a land nation can start up a land fort.

>>175671069
That's not true though unless you are rolling in the dosh for some reason and can build more forts than there are easy-to-take uw provs in your capring.

>>175644258
what a fucking reeetarded assburgers thing to do

>>175670198
well there's about 70 virgins that post here for your first tribute.

>>175670198
>Because UW nations can't recruit their best units from the coast if they can recruit from the coast at all.
MA R'lyeh and MA Pelagia's better land fighters are coastal, and MA Atlantis's research mages are coastal. Oceania gets essentially the same stuff on coasts that they get UW. Therodos and Ys are primarily coastal nations, essentially, with more out of coasts than UW. Getting most of your stuff UW only is the exception rather than the rule.

>>175671069
>>175671216
It depends on the nation, silly billies.

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>>175671216
What maps do you play on? The ones that I've used don't have enough water provinces in one place to have a cap-ring composed solely of them, and the map generator has to be specifically tailored to produce an RNG-map that does.
>>175672341
Oceania and Ys are exceptions. Atlantis, R'lyeh, and Pelagia can only get good mages UW. For R'lyeh's troops, you're right though. Therodos is a freespawn nation (though even then its best spawns are UW) and not a typical UW nation.

>>175673290
>Atlantis, R'lyeh, and Pelagia can only get good mages UW
Atlantis's labrats are coastal. It'd probably be better for them if they could get battle mages on coasts and their researchers UW, but there's a whole lot more I'd change about that nation first. Point is, though, that they do really can use coasts. R'lyeh's starchildren are generally their go to mage anyways. Slave mages are expensive, and if you're fighting a land war you need only so many big W mages.

The coastal changes really did help with giving UW nations benefits from taking coastal provinces.

>>175673290
beautiful
where do you guys get maps, period?
I used to browse mode forum but nowadays it's pretty dead

I played on Valances my last 15 games or so

>>175676749
Valanis
autocorrect be damned

Can we push back hosting by 3 more hours? I'm gonna be working on a work project through my lunch break and might work late too.

>>175677179
Yeah sure I'll push it back for you

>>175677179
Deleted my name. This is Fourth Greeks

>>175677179
Whoops, forgot my name

>>175673290
Pictured: the worst map ever made in dominions for balance. Somehow, fucking somehow, someone made something trashier than damn Latus.

>>175672732
I'm no UW master but most UW nations don't want to expand solely UW for the reason that doing so would lead them to having a spaghetti shaped border that takes years to traverse at map move 1.

My point is to avoid having weird borders and becoming irrelevant UW nations should expand on land significantly. Obviously this doesn't mean they should have 0 UW provs. They should get enough UW provs to produce the units they need. It's not impossible to balance this out. Send, say, 2 expansion parties on land and 1 expansion party to take on the easier UW indies. Now you have reasonable borders and enough dosh to make forts in your uw provs.

If some landlubber uses mercs or some shit to enter your pool you forcefully push him aside later.

>>175673290

>>175678220
It's not THAT bad for small games without sailing

>>175678383
Sailing is literally required on the map though, otherwise you can get stuck on a 2-province isle blocked off from the rest of the world by Zeus.

Literally worse than Flatus. But someone reminded my the Uropia map existed, which actually just puts non-sailing nations on complete isles with 0 way off, so I guess it isn't the worst.

>>175678750
I think the map is shit too, but if I'll give it some optimism and assume those anchors with the black lines are supposed to represent harbors and land troops can cross there like if there was a bridge on other maps.

>>175679143
This is true, but that doesn't stop you from spawning at the upper-rightmost land province, with a throne right beneath you - effectively cutting you off from everything unless you have sailing.

Or from starting on the waste at the bottom left side of the map, with the harbor province a 3-throne.

>>175679143
Set starting locations, you can get stuck starting on that bottom left swamp and get walled in by the nation that spawned above you. Or you can start at the top of that right island and have to crawl through 2 mountains and a swamp only to get blocked by that nation who spawned in the bottom swamp.

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>>175678220
>>175678750
Those lines that >>175679143 pointed out are landbridges, yeah.
>>175679537
>upper-rightmost land province
That's one province true, but the one below it is actually four provinces.

>>175679650
Oh wait, those start locations are fucking set? As in they were intentional. Jesus, its worse than I thought.

>>175680287
I sure hope that throne wasn't hard to take. And you had the right temp scales to go over that river or that mountain.

What are the best/prettiest/more balanced maps then?

>>175680548
>As in they were intentional. Jesus, its worse than I thought.
If everyone has a terrible starting location, nobody does.
>>175680764
Shahrivrah is pretty and I don't think it's particularly unbalanced. Just hope you don't start in one of the corners.

>>175680764
Snerdyn

>>175673290
moggers shut the fuck up nobody likes bolingard its a terrible map

I have been knocked out by bats, I only have two provinces and no troops, I gave away all my stuff. I set myself AI for all the good it could do. I think I really like EA abyssia but I made a lot of mistakes, if I ever play them again I imagine I'd do a lot better.

>>175681531
I like it too

>>175683320
Summod buffs the shit out of them, but in vanilla they're barely stronger than uw nations and even then you rely on people not knowing what devils are.

Alternatively rush harder.

>>175683320
Abyssia is also my favorite nation despite them not being very strong.

>>175686996
This was without summod, I know it makes them way better. I should have rushed harder, and probably not went after bats at all. I might have been able to rush down Mictlan, even Lanka would have have been a better choice. I should have grabbed a n9 bless as well, and possibly an e4 or even as high as e9. I think n9e9 would be an interesting bless for all your sacred evo spammers who would otherwise really suffer from fatigue and be vulnerable to RoS or being attacked by bats. The extra protection would give them a chance to cast a scripted fire blast to counter some flying units which would be neat, or let their heat at least do something, and the reinvig would seriously help burning ones.

>>175687452
I think I would have done much better with a better designed pretender. I focused my pretender on blood to try and use it for late game, but I think using nature and earth would have been better overall for a lot of reasons. I also should have taken production 3/order 2 I think, maybe even order 1 and tried for some magic. You need scales badly because of your stupid expensive troops so its hard to say for sure. overall 4/5 bretty fun

>>175688015
Yeah good scales are pretty needed for abysia. Research is shit until you get lightless lanterns, after that your research is pretty strong.

>>175688362
I had order3/prod2 but was consistently resource blocked so I think prod3 is more important

I'm an obsessive piece of shit shutin, should I play this game? Is it much fun if you don't have friends to play with?

>>175688790
Online multiplayer dude. You play with random people on the internet, like...any other online multiplayer game.

Where can I find mp games nowadays?

>>175688790
This game is pretty much perfect for you, then.

>>175689239
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dominions+4+multiplayer+games

>>175688790
It's alright in singleplayer for a while if you are really autistic.
Amount of units and stuff to experiment with is huge and it makes for a good sandbox experience even with braindead AI.
And after 600 hours of singleplayer you'll be able to drop into multiplayer and be awful but at least not clueless

>>175659343
Sorry, no rollbacks unless absolutely necessary.
That said, if something like that comes up again, let me know beforehand and I'll postpone hosting if needed.

>>175693189
hey fuck you buddy

>>175693189
Thanks for being goodmin and not a Lukas

>>175693189
I need a 10 week extension pls

>>175693189
rollback or stale

>>175698081
Soooo.... about that sub for Shinuyama?

>>175698081
Admins do not negotiate with terrorists, baka

>>175693189
I love cocks!

>>175698582
Same. Every time I pee standing up, I'm thankful.

Hey admin, can I get a sixteen second extension on the current turn?

>>175698659
>peeing standing up
its like you arent even a tranny

>>175698659
>Fishpeople for Social Justice

>>175700338
I'm just checking my privilege.

Yup, it's still there.

>>175698953
>assuming fishperson's birthgender
Wow you fucking pig.
Maybe he is a female to male transginger.

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>>175700482
>Anon casts Astral Tempest

>last post was 30 minutes ago
What the h*ck.

What happens if you add a negative value to that +PD thing that Eunuchs and some other commanders get? What happens if you add it to a unit?

I love ichtyids!

>>175707008
Yea, especially with rice. Sushi are delicious.

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Is it a 50% chance per commander in the province, or does it just pick one commander, make one check, and return to the mage if it fails?
>read the manual
Jokes on you I already checked and it only tells you the stats for an Ashen Angel.

why can't I DL my turns through gmail?
this has literally never happened before, and I've done more turns than I can count.

>>175707160
Fairly certain it's a 50% chance it determines if any of the commanders are suitable. No clue how it picks commanders, if its by random chance or goes off experience and stuff or some other hidden nonsense.

So I was just seeing if I could get a communion master to cast Enlarge on himself and if it would buff the slaves but it didn't, is this because it's not a self buff spell by default?

>>175709628
Can't you cast enlarge on the slaves?

>>175709628
Yes. ONLY self-spells transfer through communion.

I love ichtyids!

>>175712937
Me too anon. Their smooth scales feel so good, and nothing is more rewarding than caring for a fresh clutch of eggs spewed inside of you

Post Forester Bob memes.

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>>175713508
Faction when?
MSpaint robes when?
stretched bigger sprite pretender chassis when?

>>175718526
Am I the only one who thinks these sprites are absolutely horrible?

>>175718848
I wonder what the nature of the text I posted alongside the image was?

>>175718848
i like the cute fish summon. How crazy would it be if it summoned 50 size one 3 health fishies with 30 morale

How does using the debug program work? Install it like a regular mod then create a game?

>>175719641
That would be pretty based.
Inspired by the celestial carp's lore and gluttony I'm imagining a giant fish summon with a psuedo-eater-of-the-dead effect

>>175718526
>>175718848
>>175719340
N-no bully, Lentia was my first mod ever. That carp was the first sprite I drew from scratch.

>>175719971
It's generally decent, the only jarring thing is the mage robes which look like they were done with the line and bucket tool.

The pretender chassis just being a bigger guy is pretty hilarious though.

>>175720342
Yeah, I'm not very proud of these robes either.

How do you deal with the urge to talk about how your game is going despite knowing that your rivals are reading the thread?

>>175719971
the carp is great, I think some of the armors could be improved though.

>>175720938
Get steam friends who aren't douches and are not in your games. Sometimes I talk to them even when they are in the same game.

>>175719971
Sorry anon, I didn't want to sound mean. It's great to create new things, I don't think I would be able to do as well as you did.

>>175721808
It's okay, anon. Let the love of ichtyids unite us all.

>>175720938
The general would be way more interesting if we could see how other people are doing, its a shame really.

>>175718526
Maybe instead of robes the mages could be represented by a different coloration, and somesort of ornamentation like crowns or jewelry

>>175722000
How about post game reports? Like AARs. I don't mind posting some stuff in the games I'm in.

idea, generic fantasy goblins mod
>some bonus for death scales
>big cap only caster is the Nilbog, who is a spirit that posesses goblins, mechanically an immortal demonic goblin mage, high D/S/F
>sacreds are Swarm Launchers who have some contraption that hurls beehives that do aoe poison
>most units are cheap chaff, some foreignrec mages

>>175722171
Those are great

>>175722171
Either that or big battle turn by turn screencaps are great.
Only one I remember seeing here was that weeb one though.

>>175720498
I like your mages but I hate most of your sacreds. Some of them are really good so you're fooled into thinking it's a bless nation but then you check the rest of the nation and you realize that it's a buff nation or evo nation. I'd like to use those sacreds, but
>>175720938
I talk to allies, people that aren't in the game, and send silly messages over the ingame messaging system.
>>175722271
>generic
That's boring tho.

>>175722857
t h r o w i n g
b e e s

>>175722857
>>175720498
>I'd like to use those sacreds, but
Ahem. "-but you only make the all-but-mandatory cap-only sacreds, so there's no reason to investing design points into them."

>>175722507
>>175722703
Alright, but some of these battles aren't mine.
1. Fast. Sauro (maybe a good player) vs marv (totally a noob). It was a deadly "accidental" bump for sauro.
2. DSDS3. TNN (malakal) vs Ulm (random player). Malakal in his superior diplomatic advantage convinced Ulm's maidens to surrender their virginities to him.

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>>175724015
Doh.

>>175724173
where was ulm's mage support

at least sauro brought some, though a woefully inadequate amount

>>175724638
EA Ulm doesn't have mage support. Instead they have Rain of Stones and good, stealthy troops.

>>175724173
Made a bold play that didn't work out. Saw that TNN was building to rushdown Ulm's walls, tried to cutoff the backrow prov to prevent him from being able to easily retreat.

He split his armies into two, with half hitting Ulm proper and the others into where the sneaky army hit.

No biggie, shit happens.

I hate Ermor!

>>175726272
Fuck you

I love ichtyids!

>>175720938

Post about your game and then have people guess who you are.

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>>175724173

>"boabhan sidhes" is pronounced "banshees"

Brilliant.

>>175726598
>Pyrric Victor
You mean every one of my battle reports ever?

If you deal fire damage to a B9 unit, and the damage gets reflected, does it get reflected as general damage or as fire damage? Same for physical or otherwise. Does having high prot, for instance, and hitting a B9 unit cause the returned damage to be mitigated by prot?

>>175727000
Pretty sure it's just magic damage, and its MR negates

>>175723162
Wait, didn't I make them recruitable everywhere in the last version?

>>175727359
I know it's MR negates, but I was curious if a caster with relatively high MR and +fire res items would be able to survive with casting rounds of, say, falling fires against a B9 stack of sacreds

Anyone know how to use the pbem manager? If I can get this working I can start putting out lots of fights and screenshots alot easier.

I got a gmail and I already read the thread about using the gmail option, but after the first time I tried to "enable" the gmail thing it's giving me that "IMAP settings wrong". What can I do?

>>175727540
nvm fixed ;)

there was a fucking space between the imap server name. Doh

Why can't great eagles go on sailing ships? Mine just won't go on my stupid ships for some reason.

>>175728025
They might be too big

>>175727456
f you're talking about LA Lentia then yes, they have rec-anywhere sacreds, but I was talking about EA Lentia.

By the way, the version of LA Lentia you have available at Dom3mods, v1.00, uses the same monster ID (4098) twice, once for Lampreyids, and once for Pearl Lords. Currently, Accelerate the Experiments produces 16+ Pearl Lords per cast. Definitely a failure, but not in the way the spell describes it.
Accelerate the Experiments is a weird spell. If it can be perfectly replicated and is actually pretty useful, is it really a failure?

>>175728025
>why didn't the eagles ride the ships to mordor?

>>175726598
If we came up with a sizeable number of achievements with exact pre-requisites (for example, "Pyrrhic victory" could be 5000 gold/200 gems higher losses than the opponent), it might be interesting to have a game with house rules of victor being the one with most achievement points (the old-fashioned victory would of course also grant an achievement). A balancing act between trying to win and making unconventional strategical choices (like assassin pretender) as well as effectively sabotaging yourself with some of the achievements like Pyrrhic victory.

>>175730553
For example, suppose you had the following achievements that would be easy to get if you attempt to lose:
>Untapped Potential: Have 300 design points left over, 10 achievement points
>Do Not Pass Go: Be the first player to lose, 10 achievement points
>Master of Magic: Design your pretender with two paths of magic at 10, 10 achievement points

And then somehow manage to squeeze something like these with some kind of asshole batman kind of design as elf nation:
>My Pretender is Better than your Pretender: Assassinate enemy pretender with yours, 10 achievement points
>Hunter of Heroes is getting hungry: Reach 500 kills with one of your heroes in Hall of Fame, 10 achievement points
>The First Empire: Be the first player to reach 50 provinces (a tough achievement to get if you also intend to lose)

At that point you'd have 60 achievement points and the remaining players might have to really start pursuing achievements like Diving Benevolence if they want to overtake your lead. And if it looks like deliberately losing first might be an actual legit strategy, you could make a meta-strategical decision of actually playing serious and letting other players ruin themselves while you can take the rest without content and then win.

I think it might be interesting, although really difficult to organize (would probably take a non-playing admin to check turn files and verify players actually achieved what they claim to have achieved).

need more time, like 12 hrs. i am having a health issue. i promise i will try to play ASAP.

>>175729374
>uses the same monster ID (4098) twice
Damn, apparently LA Lentia was the only nation is missed in the ID listing I'm keeping to avoid compatibility issues between my mods. The spell was working properly for me, so I thought that everything is okay. Thanks for catching this thing!
Should I change the numbers for Accelerate the Experiments (assuming I fix it)?
I'll upload a fix soon.

When I was first making EA Lentia, /domg/ told me that the sacreds were way too powerful, and with each iteration I had to nerf them more and more.

>>175727000
>>175727520
Damage returned by blood vengeance is not typed. I've tested fire resistant units using fire damage against BV, they die just the same.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't even get DRN rolls, you just directly take the same amount of damage your opponent took.

>>175737260
>it doesn't even get DRN rolls
Aside from the magic resistance roll to see if you take damage at all, of course.

>>175737260
Trample actions don't cause BV returns though right? Elephants, Trogs, and Earth Elementals all do just fine?

>>175737549
I haven't tested it myself, but that's what I've heard.

>>175688790
yes, it prevented me to kill myself last year, good stuff.

pro tip: don't join more than 2 games at once.

>>175683320
it didn't have to end like this.

>>175726272

Your play was so easy to read I dont know what would be an obvious play by your standards.

Would you mind if we postponed by an additional 24 hours? I have an important exam tomorrow and I'm already pressed for time as it is.

>>175738586
>he doesnt join 15 games at a time
>>175741875
I know that feeling bud.

>>175741875

Meh go for it

Jesus christ I'm being memed hard

>>175735826
get well soon my dude

>>175749741
>HehNothingPersonnel
Reeeeeeeeeaaally?

>>175749987
Oh there's no hard feelings, I'm jes' sayin. I'm glad someone is running W9F9, I've always wanted to but never had the courage

Don't bully ichtyids!

>>175752450

Ichtyids a tasty, a tasty!

Especially with chips.

I am indifferent to ichtyids!

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>>175754169

>>175750075
My research is awful if it makes you feel any better :^)

MAdman Nazca are you there?

What's worse? Ichtyds or elves?

>>175735926
>When I was first making EA Lentia, /domg/ told me that the sacreds were way too powerful, and with each iteration I had to nerf them more and more.
I wasn't saying they're weak, I was saying that if they're cap-only and you have no other incentives (sacred summons/thugs/communion slaves) there's no logical reason to invest in a bless.
>Should I change the numbers for Accelerate the Experiments
Let me put it this way:
>Wallshaker: Constr. 4, 15 Air gems, 1 A3 mage turn
25 siege power.
>Summon Ogres: Conj. 2, 10 Earth gems, one E1 mage turn
16 siege power.
>Summon Leogryphs: Conj. 4, 10 Nature gems, 1 N2 mage turn
41 siege power.
>Accelerate the Experiments: Alt. 1, 3 Nature gems, 1 N1 mage turn
~99 siege power.

I'm not saying it's overpowered, but it is noticeably better than anything else in the game for its cost.

>>175760452

Fish defnitely.

t. not elf

Pythium is chainstaling, are we subbing or ai'ing them?

>>175765026
Bandar log has already eaten them so I don't think it matters. Monkeys are on the cap and most of their other territory is gone

Um...where's Niefelheim

>>175765416
I guess that works too. Monkies aren't too scary to me.

>>175765695
AI

I might as well too, then. During this game I have:
>Tried to be a good citizen and REMOVE BATS
>Gotten elfed
>Watched as most of the team to REMOVE BATS didn't even pretend to try
>Learned how difficult it is to counter sneaking bane venoms/assassins
And now, after all my effort to actually remove bats, the one remaining player in the Anti-Bat Alliance goes AI. Bats will now get all of his land.

Enjoy your game.

>>175766506
Post graphs before you go plz

>>175766506
>Tried to be a good citizen and REMOVE BATS
Bats said you were trying to vulture, and you said in thread that you didn't want to kill them. You didn't change your tune til after you got invaded.

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So /domg/ have you forgiven her yet? As FourthTurning is coming to a head it's almost time for a new meme game.

>>175768589
Absolutely not.

Oeridia if my hyphy wifey for lifey

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>>175760452
Sneaky assassin fish.

Oeridia
natgen
ME

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>>175768589
She says she's left the Unlimited Elephants behind and turned her life around. You know she hasn't changed though. You know she'll hurt you again whether it's with non stop Astral Corruptions or some crazy broken ME national spell.

But you're still tempted because it's always such a wild ride. The thrills, the excitement, the sense of false hope, before everything comes crashing down around you again. You know it's time /domg/ to have those crazy couple of weeks or months, before she keys your car and poisons your cat. It's time to forgive her and meme on.

>>175769221
>>175769258
oeridia
natgen
me

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>>175769160
>sneaky
>assassin
>slelespamer
>S random

>>175768589
>>175769258
This is actually the first map I ever downloaded. I signed on to play a game on it but it never happened.

>>175769258
The problem is I don't like any LA nations.

>>175766506
>Kailasa goes AI
Well fuck there goes the game.
Mictlan is a sub who came in after extensive stales, xibalba is down to a besieged cap and a castle, neif is AI, and yomi is AI.
That leaves sauro and Thed.

>>175769258
Aren't Clockwork Hounds setting up an Oeridia game right now? Wouldn't it make sense to consolidate players?

>>175769832
I've always wondered how it plays out in MA, I know EA is a little cramped with Helheim and Vanheim sharing a cap circle. And it's kinda no fun with Lanka getting the blood plain to themselves.

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>>175769513
It was a real nationgen rec-anywhere, that was played in a real PBEM by real people for real.
>don't call it a grave, this is the future you chose

>>175769941
>Mictlan is a sub who came in after extensive stales
Still has more stuff than Thed

>>175769961
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dominions4/comments/6502dj/new_game_looking_for_players_cancer/

>>175770004
It's not even that bad.

>>175770037
well of course.
That's like saying a blind homeless man has more stuff than a North Korean

>>175770117
>not natgen
why even bother?

>>175770168
I am literally shaking. Future pictures of the abomination should come with a trigger warning.

>>175769991
I can't recall a MA meme game, since our meme games are usually Archaea (EA) or Latus (LA).

>>175770570
Nah, I mean the guy was all DOOM about it, but they're just D2 assassins. 'puchis and bat assassins are much harder to counter because they use leech.

>>175765026
>>175765416
I'd still like them to go AI so we can get turns. I'd volunteer but I'm in game.

>>175770639
Yeah, it's not like you'll have ench5 and a shitton of them in the second year or anything.

>>175770639
>Just D2 assassins
>Disintergrate, skelespam, etc

Yeah we can all agree puchi and bats are far worse, but these guys are not that far off.

>>175770639
Not only is that wrong, it's not even really comparable.

Vicars were the main rec-anywhere of Aunuland; there are precisely 6 assassins with Blood magic. 3 of them are unique, 1 of them is a pretender chassis, and the one that isn't Mictlan exclusive is a cap-only.

Even if you can counter one D2 assassin, how many commanders can you outfit? Will you give gems to every mage, can you even produce as many gems as Aunuland can mages? How do you handle it when they start popping up in your lightly defended provinces two at a time, like elves? If you force them to battle (good luck) how do you deal with them being better skellyspammers than C'tis?

>>175769258
the worst map I've ever seen. palette, layout, details, everything is bad
at least it's more balanced than the average fan made maps

So LA TC seems really cool, I just have no idea on how to get them into late game. Mid game they seems crazy cool with RoS solid battle magic and great paths/cross paths for summons but once it gets into late game bull shittery they seem useless. Only thing I could come up with was a Lich with a little nature (bleh) to get into tarts. You know take advantage of the fact they can actually get moonvines natively.

Are the odds of a province having a site separate from one another or is it all together? I just found 4 sites with one mage and I'm wondering if it's worth searching for more.

>>175775994
No idea test it out. Make a map with 1000 provinces and site search each one and let us know the results experiment performed at least 10 times. :^)

>>175775994
Depends. Some provinces are marked to have a better chance to have magical sites (you can check the relevant files to find out which), sometimes you just get lucky. Throne provinces are always marked to have a better chance to have magic sites.

Plains have betters odds for astral sites, forests for nature, swamps for death and water, wastes for death and fire, mountains for air and earth, water for water, earth, fire, and death.

Manual could tell you more.

>>175777489
Even in a "many sites" province, or otherwise high site province, >4 sites is very unlikely.

Not impossible, but statistically you're better off searching elsewhere instead.

>>175775407
Just keep using the recruitable mages. What do you fear in the lategame that they can't deal with?

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>>175749741
1810g (1 str mage 1 cap only str)+ 28 slaves (summons) and 20+ gems (battle use) lost
vs
357g and 6 gems (2 battle use 4 from a dead demon)
I think I did okay here, outside of losing a turn and a half of cap only sacreds.

>>175782394

>berytian troops
>no demons
>no melqarts
>no mage support

zzz

>>175782394
>>175783380
To be fair to berry it's turn 28 so they probably aren't in full swing yet. Guessing they were using flaming arrow without near enough blockers here.

>>175767478
Yes, bats said I was trying to vulture. But I was not. And there was a period after I got elfed where bats looked ok and I was content to leave them alone. But I was contacted by Nief, who said the bats had taken almost all of his stuff, and bats sent a few testing raiding parties my way. Basically the entire game I was at war with bats or being elfed. Now that Nief is AI and I can't siege Xib's cap due to Onaqui assassins casting Swarm, his placement on the map along with his battiness means he'll be able to get Nief's territory.

Also I actually haven't cast Acashic Record cause I wanted Kinnaras, I'll do a couple casts and post them, I already submitted this turn. Also I'll leave the admin the option of looking for a sub, though I can't imagine who'd want to.

>>175784274
Also, there was a period of time at the start where I liked bats' roleplay and thought they might be ok in a weaker state. Over the course of the game I found out that they had A. almost killed Marverni, B. almost killed Niefelheim, and C. were Sy.

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How's this for LA TC?
>extra damage for ancestor vessels at range
>nearly doubles the effective HP of ancestor vessels +regen
>makes celestial servants into top tier blockers with 66 EHP+regen for 2 gems each, similar with soldiers
>scales give enough gold to actually buy shit

>>175678201
Frigg off
I am not a meme!

>>175784768
Not sure if double bless is the way to go for LA TC.

Celestial Servants are shit no matter what you do, Prot 4 is too shitty. They won't last longer than Vine Ogres which are cheaper, no matter the bless.

Ancestor Vessels are passable but worth a double bless? Could get 2+ normal heavy horsemen for the price if you buy some Prod.

Even if you go with that build, I'd put 1 Dom point into S2, to be able to teleport. And maybe, not sure, 2->3 order for going 1 drain

>>175788609
Wouldn't wooden warriors on Celestial servants be way more effective than vine ogres with wooden warriors thanks to the regen? Hell you get access to marble warriors too making them a brick wall in a pinch

>>175788609
Drain-misfortune seems like a bad idea, but dropping dom for s2 seems fine, given that the weaknesses that s2 has are offset by immortality.

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>Alee's Sylvan Knights just strike once with their lance per battle then give up and wait for their horses do all the work
Strabo confirmed for misogynist, enemy of all women.

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Explain this malakal meme
Who is he and why does everyone suspect everyone might be him

>>175792437
Nice try Malakal

>>175792437
t. Malakal

>>175792437
I'm Malakal

>>175793083
Nice try Malakal

>>175794610
Nice try Malakal

>>175794660
Nice try Malakal

>>175794801
t. Malakal

>>175789874
Well, shit. Good catch! If you have any otger issues with the nation, please tell, so I can release an update with the bugfix at the same time.

>>175784274
>Yes, bats said I was trying to vulture. But I was not.
m8

You said explicitly that you wanted several provinces under the assumption that other people were fighting me and that I would want to focus on fighting them and asked to be allowed to take them without a fight. That is vulturing.

>>175784231
>flaming arrows against dudes with base 5FR
lol gl

>>175772392
Black Heart is a blood item. It's not even expensive. Any nation with sneaky blood mages has blood assassins.

Is bone grinding worth it?

>>175784231
nah it was an attempt to fill the skies with arrows while using elementals as blockers.
It might have worked but I knew his army comp so I put my sacreds forward and set the majority of them to atk Archer.
Also his eles lasted literally 1 turn.

>>175801474
it can be

>>175802332
>fill the skies with arrows
Footmen set to guard commander XD

>>175803192
Did that too. Didn't really do much desu, the sacred closed faster than the foot could move.
Also pretty sure he was scripted as fire

>>175795620
Nixies aren't magic beings.
Leprechauns are bafflingly useless; they have no special traits (except 0 upkeep), they don't open up any new magic, they're not particularly good units, and they don't even have a better leader than what you can recruit.
Alee is an Astral powerhouse rivaled in EA only by R'lyeh and Marverni but they don't do anything with it. No national spells, no national summons, not even Fortune Teller. The closest thing they have to Astral-related units are the Cloud Sprites, but that's flavored as Air-based.

Non-issues that I felt were noteworthy:
Sylphs are remarkably well balanced. They expand well if you can afford them, and they also raid well, but since Sylphs struggle against even basic infantry if they're equipped with spears and/or armor, and you need at least a small numbers advantage to be extremely effective (which at 17g per can get expensive), they're not the end-all-be-all for Alee's armies.
The Faerie Dragon is so cute I did a double-take when I saw that it was otherwise identical to a normal dragon, firebreath and all.
The Pixie Queen is well-priced, extremely comparable to similar cap-only StRs like Crones of Avalon and Grand Masters.
Spriggan Berserkers have so little HP that they rarely get to benefit from their Berserk, but I find this a non-issue because they don't cost much more than a normal Spriggan.
It's humorously fitting that Nixies, who "dwell in and protect pristine ponds and lakes" have no darkvision, since they live in water where it's unnecessary.
I like the juxtaposition between fully benefiting from your Air mages, and fully benefiting from your flying and/or ranged units.
Until you get some serious buffs up, their troops are mostly useless in a straight, protracted fight; they melt to evocations, arrows, and anything with enough attack to hit them. Considered a non-issue because half of Alee's army flies and all of it is stealthy, so they can pick their fights.

>>175803309
I was commenting more on how bad an archer oriented strat is in Dominions.

If your footmen are the only targets in range, you can pull everything.

>>175806312
Thanks! Detailed feedback like this is very helpful. I'll see what can be done and release an update. Soon, hopefully.

>>175807001
Ahh there is also that.
I feel like my 'set everything close so it closes within 2 volleys' also worked

>>175807534
Apparently it did

>cast will of the fates
>suddenly my whole army loses its glamour
Does Luck it actualy interfere with glamour or is it just the visual effects that conflict?

Are Storm Guards worth it as MA Caelum? They're actually fairly tanky (20prot 14 defence in C3 dominion) but the offensive power is identical to Spire Horn Warriors/Airya Lancers, their gold cost is higher and they're only MM2.

>>175813656
yes, but they do different things. You buy spire horns for lance alpha and guards for lineholding.

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>>175749841
sorry for taking this long and the stale of thr previous turn. i barely managed to send my turn.

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>>175816990

Sir you are using a bugged meme. Here is the newest version.

>>175813656
>>175814820
Also aren't storm guards fly in storm? If you're burds Perpetual storm can really fuck you if you don't have a good supply of storm guards

>>175818914
both fly in storms

>>175818365
IIRC that is an "intended feature/mechanic" of the developer's original branch.

You know how a bunch of nations with bad cap-only sacreds have lore to the effect of "they're special bodyguards for the cap-only StR"?

Why are they always dudes in armour so heavy that they would reduce the cap-only StR to MM1 if you actually used them?

Why don't the cap-only StRs just get, for example, 1d3 of them as battle-summons?

>>175792437
Malakal is a skilled diplomat with a pennchant for well-executed backstabs. Dominions' multiplayer doesn't show you who is who, so you don't know which nation is being played by malakal.

>>175760571
>I was saying that if they're cap-only and you have no other incentives (sacred summons/thugs/communion slaves) there's no logical reason to invest in a bless.
It's worth taking a bless for cap-only sacreds on their own if they're good.

All of EA Lentia mages are sacred as well. How many reasons to take a bless do you need?

>siege power
While I agree that 5 siege power on a summon that costs about on par with wolves is crazy, most of those alternatives have benefits outside their siege power.

Ogres and leogryphs are decent troops rather than dead weight like Lampreyids. Wall Shaker lets the user spam fear in combat, and can be moved around much more easily.

Also, you missed Cave Grubs, 64 siege power for 8 earth gems and a E1 mage turn.

>>175768589
>>175769258
Tested to see how it plays out in MA, Agartha gets the earth plain to itself. Better bring your AN attacks because it'll be statue city.

>>175825190
>Cave Grubs
Good luck finding a cave province.

>>175759204
Yeah?

>>175803192
I tried to get around that by Having several squads set to fire none and hoping the targeting AI would pick Wot5E rather than his arrow baiters. I'm being outplayed, though, I doubt I'm winning this war

EACaelum in a game I'm hosting is able to spam thunderstrike with 2a1w mages and no item/hero/storm power support.

Is this dude cheating?

>>175828986
Yes

is it a safe strategy against bad luck events to script your pretender to Retreat so that he doesn't risk dying if some indies surprise-attack a province where he's located without any army?

>>175828986
You can cast thunderstrike at A2 with an air gem.

It's a good anti-rush strategy, means you get it far earlier than normal.

>>175829383
How?

>>175829470
You put a gem on the mage
the mage will use the gem to boost his path level so that he can cast the spell
if he has gems left over, he will use them to reduce his fatigue when casting the spell, up to his unboosted path level.

And A2 can cast Summon Air Elemental for 50 fatigue by spending 2 gems, one to boost himself to A3 and one to reduce the fatigue to half. An A2 cannot cast Storm with gems, because he cannot boost to A4 with his 2 gems.

>>175829629
My God, I feel like such a noob. I had no idea it is possible to use gems for spells without a gem cost.

>>175829712
You and most Dominions players m8, 90% of the mechanics that can save your ass or win you the game are hidden

>>175829629
Question, does it only raise their level for that one spell or for the whole battle?

>>175829804
That one spell. For E1 and F1s, you can use the gem to cast Epower or Phoenix Power and then the boost will be permanent

>>175829274
Yes. I do it for all my sitesearching mages. Put him at the back of the field as well.

>>175829804
For that spell only.

>>175829383
>>175829629
Awesome, thank you.

>>175829712
If it makes you feel better, I played for about half a year before I figured it out. It's not usually optimal to do that, so that wrinkle kinda fall through most beginners guides/is so situational you may not see it.

>>175829804
That spell which is why it's horribly for one effect spells, but can be really useful for buffs i.e. casting soul vortex on a D2 Formorian King or Personal Regeneration on a big mage with an N1 random (subbed for someone once who just had N1 on his pretender no clue why, just used gems and presto regen)

>>175806312
>Leprechauns are bafflingly useless; they have no special traits (except 0 upkeep), they don't open up any new magic, they're not particularly good units, and they don't even have a better leader than what you can recruit.
- Leprechauns now produce 2 gold per month
- Grand Leprechaun now produces 10 gold per month, has a 10% chance to neutralize a bad event, curses the enemy that killed him, and has N1S1
Will these changes be good?
I'm also planning to add some Astral-related stuff.

>>175832512

Whats the cost of a leprechaun? Because 2g/month could quickly get ridiculous if they are easy to mass.

>>175832802
Each casting summons 15 normal leprechauns and 1 grand leprechaun. Costs 8 nature gems. Requires N3. Research level 2. Yeah, sounds like it could get ridiculous.

>>175832963
If sounds extremely OP. The difference between "0 upkeep" and "gives 1 gold per month" (let alone 2) is HUGE. Don't implement this ability. Other than that, your ideas look good to me. In fact, you didn't even need to buff regular leprechauns; buffing grand leprechauns might be enough, since they're summoned by the same spell.

>>175833073
Alright, thanks! I'll just remove this ability from the leprechauns, but leave the gold income for the grand leprechaun.

>>175833123
What do leprechauns even do?

>>175833259
Just slap and shrink enemies. They exist solely because I wanted a summon that can slap-shrink.

>>175833295
Maybe you could give them chance to cause good events like firebirds? Or maybe script some event that causes you to find one of their pots of gold.

>>175833549
>cause good events like firebirds
This doesn't seem to be a moddable command. Maybe only by using #copystats. I think I'll do the event thing, I liked this idea.

>>175833549
I don't see why they should be buffed further. An astral mage for a pure nature spell is alone extremely powerful. It ALSO produces 10 gold per month, ALSO is a fortune teller, ALSO curses thugs, ALSO comes with some soldiers. It should maybe be nerfed further.

>>175798367
False. Vulturing is taking provinces from a dying player without resistance. I was taking provinces from a (I hoped) living player and asking you to focus your energy elsewhere, and survive. I brought plenty of troops to help attack you (which you were barely able to scratch) but then felt bad cause I thought you were about to die, and at first I just wanted you to be weaker. But obviously that was before the rest of the alliance collapsed, I got elfed, you almost killed Nief, etc.

>>175833684
I mean the regular ones, not the mage.

>>175833759
It doesn't matter, they come together. If you buff one, you also buff the other.

>>175833684
>An astral mage for a pure nature spell is alone extremely powerful.
Alee has plenty of astral and nature already (unless they've been drastically changed since I last saw them). N1S1 mages are basically useless for them, even if 8 gems is cheap for a mage summon.

10 gold per turn is not worthwhile for 8 gems investment, and I'm not hearing a good reason why you'd want anything else it gives.

We need more modnation games.

>>175834239
My bad, I didn't know it was for a nation with plenty of astral already. I wouldn't nerf the spell then, but I certainly wouldn't buff it further for now, I would wait for more feedback after playing.

I just thought of the cheesiet big thug/mini SC counter ever. If the thug has an open spot just give a chaff commander a lycanthrope amulet and when he dies the enemy will pick it up, boom thug you can't buff anymore.

>>175835110
Is it picked up after fights?

I know some cursed items were made unrecoverable because people would send slave collar suicide missions to fuck up enemy mages.

>>175825190
>It's worth taking a bless for cap-only sacreds on their own if they're good.
My threshold for that is White Centaurs. Weresharks are not on the same level.

Also I would not take the same bless for a sacred unit that I would for a mage-priest.
>>175829741
More like "hidden". The manual explains a huge amount, ingame there are informative popups for almost every mouse-over and click, and there are entire threads full of useful advice about non-intuitive parts of the game.
>>175832512
I'm glad you're updating Alee, it's my second favorite of your nation (after MA Nerita). I'm also happy you're taking my suggestions into consideration. But as the other anon said, there is a huge difference between "I have no particular reason to summon these units" and "more efficient than alchemy for converting gems to gold".

The reason I have no desire to summon Leprechauns is due to their physical traits. They're fairly normal relative to the rest of Alee and their leader is also nothing special. The major difference was their rare weapon, which wasn't enough incentive to summon them, especially since it caps at 1 damage per hit.

Frankly, I would have been happy if you had made the Grand Leprechaun a better leader than anything Alee could recruit; that alone would have been incentive enough in my opinion. That said, I think the Fortuneteller, deathcurse, and N1S1 are good changes, yes.

You might have already known this, and it won't come up much in a game, but all of Alee's 1 enc units reach 0 enc at EXP 4.

how does lanka fare in summod?
and in sumME?

>>175838027
>My threshold for that is White Centaurs. Weresharks are not on the same level.
So you're going to run full scales lentia or something just because your sacreds aren't top 5 in the entire game?

A single major bless is cheap, you can take it and still have great scales. There's no reason not to do so unless your sacreds are garbage-tier or your troops are amazing.

>Also I would not take the same bless for a sacred unit that I would for a mage-priest.
There are blesses that work for both. E9 would be amazing for mage-priests and still decent on weresharks. N9 is helpful for everything, especially shrouded thugs/SCs later.

>>175838027
>I'm glad you're updating Alee, it's my second favorite of your nation (after MA Nerita). I'm also happy you're taking my suggestions into consideration
I'm always happy to hear feedback and do adjustment. I'm at best mediocre at the game myself, but I love creating content.

>>175838968
>So you're going to run full scales lentia or something just because your sacreds aren't top 5 in the entire game?
Not full scales, but any bless would be incidental.
>>175838968
>N9 is helpful for everything, especially shrouded thugs/SCs later.
That goes for literally every nation though.

>>175832963

So on top of everything you would get 40g per turn for a 8N summon. This is not game breaking, even if you invest all your N gems into that you could feasibly maybe drop 200-300N so thats 1200g per turn? Good but not game breaking or massive.

It could be a nice bonus for the nation so I am not opposed. Alternatively fortune bringer and event maker works too.

>tfw no timeout box that doesn't kill whoever's contained via monster attacks
I just want to make spell that causes an event that traps the weak-willed in the faery lands

Fugg, forgot to do turns and now I staled for a week, time to go AI XDDD

>>175835868
Lycantrope amulet can be picked up unless that's been changed at some point.

But it won't always be, same as any item there's a chance of disappearing when carrier dies. Not sure how big this is exactly.

The thug user can still retreat that guy to non-combat duty and give the items forward, unless it's deep in enemy territory without stealth/flight. And stronger guys are less likely to have open Misc slots.

But there's definitely a niche where it works. There's still the usual problem of catching the thug, if you know where it's coming you could likely send a mage(s) capable of killing it as well.

>>175840365
Did you know that the value for the #banished command is a province number, with various negative values being special provinces with odd effects? Try playing around with these, or maybe ask Lambert.

>>175841238

I heard the chance of a random enemy commander picking up an item is 20% per item "level", i.e. trinkets is 20%, lesser items is 40% up to 100% for artifacts.

>>175834569
>what is VegetableWarriors

>>175835110
It's easily countered by using up all misc slots. But theoretically it could work for thug/SCs without full misc slots.
>>175835868
Wait so is it confirmed that cursed items don't get picked up anymore? It would be hilarious if you could "donate" 2 eyesocket items and make an SC blind by this method.

>>175835868
>>175841895
I just tested it out with 20 slave collars and 2 comm without sic slots. None were picked up. Cursed items are not picked up upon victory.

>>175842095
That's pretty gay. It sounded like a pretty cool innovative method.

>>175841895
>Wait so is it confirmed that cursed items don't get picked up anymore?
I'm fairly sure slave collars don't.

I'm unsure if it was just a fix to that specific item, or to every cursed item.

>>175842282
Oh wait I just tested with lycan amulet. IT WORKED.

I think it's specific for slave collars only.

>>175841639
Happened literally years ago.

>>175842363
It's item specific, eyes of any kind aren't picked up, nor are Lifelong protections or Soul Contracts. I'm pretty sure. Not sure how many cursed items are pickable, inspector doesn't differentiate. At least the ring of the shapeshifter dwarf pretender is pickable, iirc.

>>175806312
>The Faerie Dragon is so cute I did a double-take when I saw that it was otherwise identical to a normal dragon, firebreath and all.
Faerie Dragon's new pathcost is 20.

Damn, this looks uncomfortable.

>>175843949
that's what she said.

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>>175843949
Forgot my pic

>>175843949
>>175844832
>>175844849
Holy shit that's 3 caps within 3 connections of me now. Fuuuuuuuck.

>>175847490
>birds can fly from their cap to yours

>>175847547

Its monkeys anyway, who cares.

>>175842558
And then there was another one a few months after it finished, and another one after that one finished, etc.

Ask around, maybe people are ready for a VW6.

>>175849618
Do you want Caelum to get their Astral summons?

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Can I tap you guys for something? This summer's iteration of the VGL will be using PES17, which touts player portraits as a new feature. Basically, they're 128x128 pictures of a player that show up on the game plan. I've already made portraits for a few of our players, and I've got two possible placeholder portraits for those without a portrait, but I'd like to see if you guys don't have some pictures you think would work well as portraits. I can do some cropping and editing if necessary, just remember it's a small picture so it can't be too detailed. Several portraits, like erf snek and Forester Bob, are just in-game sprites, so those will probably work well. If you have some time to spare(I know you do), feel free to look at our roster at https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//domg/ and suggest portraits. I've got portraits for our gold, silver and GK players already, but am kind of stuck when it comes to most of the others.

Also I should probably update the player descriptions sometime, they're based on the previous roster.

>>175849895
uwot?

This is Nazca. They're much more scary lategame than Caelum

>>175844849
>nazca

remove on sight. bats, birds,elves, and undead generating nations shall be removed on sight and nazca hits 2 of those categories.

Now the question is - will monkeys martyr themselves so that the world may live in harmony and contentment?
plz be big bless

>>175847490

I'm the same way. I was assuming that is how densely the map is populated.

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>>175849963
innovative strategy should be Hinnoms Chariots since that's where the meme came from.
someone joined a noob game as a non-noob claiming to want to try an innovative strategy as hinnom, turned out to just be chariots
celestial servant for heroic obesity?
carrion lord for 16 stale strat because >>175818365
BoT could go to any number of skellingtons or Ermorian mages

>>175849963
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//domg/
>Pankoman
>Picture Unavailable
Sounds fitting.

Make Diplomonster picture of Malakal's steam profile.

>>175851763
I thought Innovative Strategy came from lemuria's full scales ghost dog?

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Hi guys
After 200 hours the soundtrack of Dominions is driving me crazy

Do you have suggestions on alternative music with the same mood? What do you listen while playing?

>>175850670
Didn't pay attention to the pic, just saw "birds" and thought caelum

>>175851990
There's two 'innovative strategy' memes. There's "I'm an intermediate player with an innovative strategy" (which is normal, go-to strategy) and then there's the "innovative full scales lemuria dog" kind.

>>175852147
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOPHZC936c
Also tedtalks and npr

>>175852147
I usually just continue to enjoy the soothing sounds of Dominions 4. My roommate even hears me playing it so much she knows the song and gets annoyed because I end up whistling it a lot around the house. If I listen to anything it'll just be random albums I like.

>>175852147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWhN1akadiQ&list=PLHxZQFaeRj36SLQw75Lj1FaVsrzX25QgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w1bUpaOf7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_-dv2F_GL0

>>175852147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3P2xWSS5YA

>>175852692
>she(male)

>>175852692
w-what does a real life girl smell like?
pls go sniff her and tell me

>>175828584

I will be taking Ulm's motivation hole next turn.

>>175853092
>>175853175
domg's autist/normie intersection is pretty noticeable sometimes.

>>175851763
Chariots are a good choice yeah(I've been here since the first threads, don't lecture me on old memes), as is the Carrion Lord. The other two are a bit iffy since they're not as directly connected to the meme, but I'll keep them in mind. Thanks for the suggestions.

>>175851848
I don't think that'll fit in a 128x128 picture, anon. Not recognizably, anyway.

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>>175854626
I was lecturing the newfags who aren't as well versed in /domg/'s rich meme culture friend. it is okay

>>175852147
I listen to nation specific tracks when I'm playing them:

Bogarus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgfa5UlZAL8

Ermor/Lemuria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtFfskf2h9c

Ulm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAkkhqOVDQc

Kailasa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8

Vanheim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twQlpFrm5iM

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get in, my boys

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>>175852186
tfw nazca has full caelum national spells suite

>>175850893
I have big bless but the issue is my other neighbors are Abysia and Asphodel.

Well fuck

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>>175842259
>>175842095
I'm 100% sure it works with at least the amulet because it happened to my prophet in a game.

>>175858771
What a situation this is turning out to be.

I'm staying away from that province you wanted.

>>175859192
>>175842363
Already confirmed.

will a unit with regen, outside of battle, heal afflictions?