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The Man you wish you could Be Edition

Previous: >>175522450

>Season 2 info: New maps, New gear, New heroes
https://pastebin.com/ctyZRLjg

>New V1.06 patch is here, Warden/PK/Shugoki nerfs, Orochi buff

https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-289202-16/

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

**ATTENTION CONSOLE BROS**
There is now an official PS4 and XB1 Community!

If you would like to join, search For Honor General (PS4)
For Honor General Official (XB1)
or Message/add TheSteroid386 (PS4) or metalkid267 (XB1) and we will invite you.
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REMINDER TO PEOPLE THINK OF BUYING THE SEASON PASS

YOU CAN FIND IT FOR AS LOW AS $20 ON KEY SITES COMPARED TO JEWBISOFTS $40
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Alrighty boyos,

I finished my Warden A E S T H I C and got him all kitted out and the like, so now its time to pick up a new character!

Should I choose Kensei, Nobushi, or PK? Post ending in 3 decides

Dubs of any number get to choose my very first viking! oh god what have i done
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are games against ai fixed to give rewards yet?
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WEEB AND KNIGHT FIGHT ALONG TO PURGE THE SNOWNIGGERS
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>>175607691
play valkyrie because fuck berserker and fuck warlord
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>>175607691
Conq a Donk
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>>175607691
kensei
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>>175607691
(cont.)

go for gold you mentalist

gold knights give no shites

gold warden gets head every mornin

gold law makes em cry out for more
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>>175607720
fuck off
weebs need to be removed at all cost
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>>175607664
i'm too afraid ill get scammed
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>>175608027
well if you help us i'll let you have 1 nobushi
you can marry her and hold hands
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I think I could have clutched it with better gear and a little better play
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>>175608114
I already married my Nobushi, once she left the weeb ways and converted to christianity
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>>175608027
literally what did we do
knights are XDeus :Vult fags and kangz were hardly gracious on their win
sure shug's OP but hes the least weeby character
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>>175608108
I bought this game for $54 at launch, and i'll buy the season pass for $20 when dlc drops. I've never been scammed by a key site but everyones experinces differ i guess.
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>>175608251
you only fucked up when you knocked all of them down and used zone instead of light,but good job anon
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>Flickering greatly benefits Roach, PK, Warden, and Warlord
>It's been a known issue for fucking ever now
>Still no fix
I'm fucking sick of this shit
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>>175608429
Is there a site you're planning on using?
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>>175608418
fuck off weeb
once we invent the nukes we won't stop at 2 this time
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>>175608504

how so? I suppose it would have taken me further away from them so I could have positioned better?
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>>175608520
warlords is the slowest of these all tho, like 600ms
not that hard to block or even parry
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>>175608520

it might not be ever possible to fix, even bots flicker sometimes, that way you know shits fucked
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>>175607691
Beserker
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>>175608539
nukes are nothing to gundams, gaijin

we're going to take your women and pixelate all their vaginas
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>>175608787
What's not possible about it? Just make zone only possible when you're aiming in the proper direction
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Raider specific counter to LB shove!
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>>175609000
trips confirm that even 3 nukes will not be enough
>gundam
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>>175607664
>thinking of buying the season pass even though i play enough to afford both characters
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>>175609035
>just destroy Raider
I mean I guess there isn't much there to begin with...
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>>175609149
how did you tech out of that grab?
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>>175608418
The Knights are afraid of the Vikings.

That's why they're so proud to be the beta bitches they are.
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>>175609164
nuke us all you want
we have a more potent weapon:
weaponised autism in the form of anime
by spreading waifu culture throughout your youth all your new knights will have no 3D women to fight for and will lose morale to the point of total military collapse
youll be so desperate you'll bring in viking forces to flesh out your ranks, but the super-high test nords will take advantage of your lack of functioning males and spread like rats through your lands, until all you have left is empty food barrels and viking rape babies

desu
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>>175608525
G2A. They have a warrent system for where they refund you if you get scammed. I think it's a dollar a month or one time payment of like 5 or 10 dollars.
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>>175609391
raider can cgb while dodging. Works like 70% of the time
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>>175609285
It's a small price to pay to prevent Roach and PK from having a free hit whenever they want
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>>175609569
>implying anyone gives a shit about anything in the faction war

suggesting I have the care to be afraid of something so insignificant is retarded. i have never once thought 'oh no, is that a viking on the enemy team? have mercy lord"
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>When you play so much that you start using the screaming falling archer on citadel gate as a way to tell if someone is backdooring you.
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>>175609849
do you have to do anything besides hitting cgb?
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>>175609179
same, im just too much of a nigger to wait a week
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>dude stop spam light parries
>you are so bad

fucking kek
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>>175609821
>this is what weebs think
>weebs
>capable of weaponizing autism
don't make me kek, you will perish in the name of God
>they a desperatly trying to create anime, but savages can't understand you
they will slaughter you all while we the Gods chosen people will laugh and thank the God for this entertainment
after the weebs have been eliminated we will convert savages by force and by making fun of weebs together, after all savages are not as pathetic as you and they will accept the will of the God as it is the only truth in this world, we will let them keep their festivals, but make them our own
after all, bros before pathetic weebs
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>>175607691
Full weeb Orochi
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>>175610453
>Beat someone in a brawl
>The only kills both opponents got on me was from ledging me
>They ask me to 1v1 them
>Tell them no because I'm grouping up with people now
>"Just so you know you're awful as that character"
>They proceed to message me for 10 straight minutes demanding a rematch and calling me bad even though they just lost
And here I thought video games were for fun
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>>175610837
>Try to have fun playing games
>Only fight Valks

inb4 I'm just bad. Valk is fucking busted on consoles and no amount of shitposting is going to make that not so.
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>>175610837
fighting games bring out the worst in people's character.

t. someone who has let them get the better of himself a few times
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>>175609821
>>175610593
All this autism vs cringe is giving me flashbacks to HS...
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Anybody seen my Daubeny
Anybody seen him around
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>>175610593
>the will of God as the only truth in this world

I guarantee you will not invent a nuke. I'm also starting to think we don't need to introduce autism, looks like thats pretty much covered.
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>>175610926
I broke my hand once over a fighting game.
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>>175611019
what the fuck
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>>175608027
>>175608539
>>175610593
>calling others weebs on an anime image board
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>tfw dont know if bad or outgeared

should I really be winning 2v1s vs 2 108s with 40 gear score?
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Anyone stop playing recently?

I just can't get the urge to get on and do the same shit over and over again (and DC over and over again). I'm very goal oriented.
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>>175611031
yeah
he said something about not wanting to be executed(?) and hid in a barrel
i really need to find a new warlord
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>>175611261
I just want cool clothes. That's my drive
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>>175610924
I know she is. I'm so fucking sick of her sweep being undodegable because of hit stun. I know I'm dodging at the right time, but it won't let me
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>all lights are 500ms or 600ms
>but some 500ms lights are faster than other 500ms lights
???????
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>>175611031
Check reddit
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>>175611391
No.
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>>175611261
put your main on the backburner for a bit and try someone else

t. mained LB until rep 12, got burned out.

the other day I tried raider and I'm having a blast, its like a whole new game.
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>>175611126
>>175611213
don't shiver weeb, stand straight in the face of you elimination, the God is watching and judging you
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>>175611261
I like winning, but I can't play team based modes solo without getting paired with absolute retards 50% of the time and it just kills my fun
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>>175611391
Usually when someone says something like that, they're talking about the parry window. Orochi's top light parry window is fucked compared to something like Nobushi's side lights. The attacks are the same speed, but one is so much harder to parry.
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>>175611478
but i'm a knight
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>>175611467
This

It really makes the game actually fun again, somewhat
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new modes when?
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>>175611657
you like a weeb sir knight, i recon you should ask forgiveness from his holy majesty
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>>175611506
>bajillion start up frames
>next to no parry frames
Why do they do this?
I hate lawbringer so fucking much.
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>>175611506
not true, all parries have 5frame window
except it's actually 4 becarse the game does not register the last frame for soe reason
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>>175612180
>all parries have 5frame window
Source that shit, nigga.
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>>175612229
don't have one, but you might find it on reddit some videos were posted there and shit
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Did even petemoo drop the game?
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>>175610593
REMINDER:
The Knights of For Honor are pagans.
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>>175610924
This
Fuck Valkyrie
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>>175612457
yes, but we accepted god as our savior while keeping our traditions
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Can Orders and stuff be done with matchmaking off yet?
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>>175612652
Yes on PS4
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>>175610924
>>175611367
>>175612591
jesus you console shitters need to fuck off
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>>175612457
>crusader pre-order bonus
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Do Kenseis count as honorary knights?
t. knight kensei main
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>>175612695
Alright, we'll fuck off back to our actually populated platform
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>>175612762
Yes. Ken is a knight, PK is a weeb. This is official lore.
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>>175612695
it's just people being bad and using the platform as an excuse, like how pre-patch law mains would blame the character not them selfs
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>>175612762
christianity has no race or region, brother
welcome aboard, and may the God watch over you
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>>175612706
They crusade for their gods (of fire, steel, and gold).
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>>175607664
If you can find it discounted in Brazilian Reais you let me know senpai
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>>175612952
>gods
it's "the God of fire, steel and gold"
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>>175612457
Literally not confirmed. Stops spreading lies.
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>>175607691
Femraider!
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>>175613069
Centurion confirmed for champion of Pluto?
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>>175613285
> Pluto
> Not Mars
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>Destroy an Orochi as Raider
>Figure it's just a friendly match and accept the rematch
>Guy whips out his high Rep Nobushi
>Who gives a shit, that bitch is even easier to parry
>Rematch again
>Guy pulls out PK
>Lose round 1 to light spam because I'm too chill from the past easy wins
>'Wow!' spam
>overdrive.jpg
>kill him with the 90 damage exhaust punish
>kill him with a parry into carry off a cliff
>kill him with a light parry side heavy
>Spamming the tried and true airhump after each kill
>Guy leaves before the last execution is finished

Dude experienced every tick in the Raider handbook and took it all on the chin. Never before has a knight slut been so thoroughly WORKED.
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>>175613156
that nobushi was bad
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>the width on conq bash
Fuck this knigger
Deserved every nerf.
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>>175612952
>pre-ordering For Honour grants you the Legacy Battle Pack which includes three exclusive armour designs "inspired by the ancient tales that embody the legendary warrior spirit of the factions"
Knights aren't exactly known for pagan crusades are they?
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>>175613516
right on raider brother
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>>175613652
> Join a duel
> It's a "defensive" character
> Leave
Who else?
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>>175613719
After 2 Reps worth of duels, things have started clicking and i'm starting to fall in love with this big oaf.

If I were to draw another Fuck Bitches picture for Raider, what would the second line even be? "Stunning Tap Again?"
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>>175614124
fuck you
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>>175613652
>>175614124
Did not mean to quote you, but you can take your free (you)s
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>>175614124
just you, the shitter
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>>175614124
>boot up the game
>quit

who else knows that feel?
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>>175614740
>boot up game
>skirmish orders
>close game
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Bring back god mode revenge.
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>>175614810
remove revenge build up in 1v1 and Xv1 situations, you shouldn't get revenge unless you're outnumbered
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>join duel
>see, warden, conq, peacekeep, lawbringer, raider, warlord,berserker, valkyrie,kensei,shugoki,orochi, nobushi
>immedantely quit

just me?
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>>175615423
>duel queue
>match found
>immediately alt+f4
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>>175615423
>see for honor installed
>immedantely put a magnet onto my hard drive

just me?
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>>175615423
>wake up
>kms
just me?
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>join a duel
>see character selection screen
>turn off console

it can't only be me right?
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>wake up
>see the sun light
>go back to bed

it can't be only me right?
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>
>
>

it can't only be me right?
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just me?
>>
me?
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>>175613501
Gold, steel, and fire would be Pluto (metals from the earth) or Vulcan(forge and manufacturing).
Mars is only interested in the use of steel, not it's creation.
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>>175612907
>PK is LITERALLY uncounterable on console if she feints heavies into light spam because you do not have enough time to react to the indicator
>LMAO CONSOLE PEOPLE ARE JUST BAD
Also reminder that the game is only alive thanks to the console playerbase
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>>175613517
So am I.
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>>175612907
>pre-patch law mains would blame the character not them selfs
>Pre-patch law had literally no way to open people up
>Even post buff Law can only spam shoves, which can be dodged out of neutral
>All the buff really did was make him good at turtling
Law was shit because he had no way to actually open up a turtle. Law is shit now because the buff turned him into a turtle
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>>175614124
>Load into elimination
>Enemy team has a turtling Warlord with all passive feats who runs to turtle a ledge the second he's in danger of dying
I'll admit I've quit a few times over this
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>>175616183
good thing they were complaining about valk
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>>175616201

just you?
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> Feint heavy into gb
> Their parry attempt doesn't get GB'd
Is this the shit netcode, or was this actually "fixed"
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>>175616531
Except you know that Valk is actually glitched right? Sometimes her sweep is undodgeable because for some reason your character is stuck switching guards with the hit stun. So no matter how much you try dodging you cannot because your character is stuck switching guards before you can move
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is fear itself better than nailbomb for oro?

I have

>aoe stun
>kunai
>sharpen blade
>fear itself
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>>175616674

if they follow through on the heavy you cant gb, they have to cancel the parry
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>>175616730
that's only if you get hit by the second light
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>>175616778
Sharpen Blades+Fear Itself is THE wombocomo.
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>>175616929
You have always been able to GB people during their heavy startups??
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>>175616938
That doesn't justify the sweep being undodgeable, especially considering her lights are fast.
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are zerks heavy un gb-able? every time I do a heavy feint into gb as nobu i just bounce off
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>>175616778
>>175616998
Sharpen blades and fear itself needs a huge fucking nerf. Shit is literally unbeatable in elimination, especially considering Roaches will just fucking flicker with it and kill you in two hits
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>>175617045
they're only 500ms, correct me if i'm mistaken
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>>175617215
They are, but always blocking every single one during a fight isn't easy. I regularly block the first, get hit by the second and am trapped in her sweep because of the bug
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>>175617215
500ms lights are hardly reactable on console
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>>175613094
literally they worship multiple gods.
literally mentioned in the game.
literally you're wrong.
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>>175617328
As a PS4 Raider player, you're full of shit.
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>>175617307
>>175617328
actually i'm pretty sure it's 600ms for follow ups with the starting light being 500ms
also 500ms lights are easily reactable
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>>175617560
Your missing the whole point. If you make a mistake and get hit by her light, you should not be fucking stuck in place so she gets a free sweep and heavy on you
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>>175617560
I'm pretty sure Valk's chains are 500ms all the way through. That's why she used to be able to fuck with Berserker's deflect just by spamming.
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>>175617728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm5L19vZiEg
>>175617727
it's only on heavy characters
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>>175616998

its decent I have shit gear atm so not full effect

>>175617021

only if they cancel it or they are slow as fuck, feint +gb is a counter to getting parried all the time, if they dont cancel the parry then you cant gb them

>>175617163

took me 6 but he was a rep 11 108 roach
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>>175616639
I'm bad, you're bad, we're all bad here.
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>>175612695
>the vast majority of the player base needs to leave

You better hope they don't.
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Can't go on anymore lads
Warlord and lawbringer have completely killed the fun.

Let me know if centurions fun.
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Does anyone else feel really dirty using Ken's mixups?
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>>175617328
Valk is bottom 4 because of how easy her lights are to parry lmao
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>>175618041

hahaha

just hit a base orochi like me with it

2 lights hahahah
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is it possible to get a blade with max def and attack?
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>>175618762
no? they're all he has and they're STILL awful compared to other mixups
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>Centurions renown bonuses have nothing to do with being near your basic troops, leading them into battle like a centurion

Missed opportunity.
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>>175618952
not max def and attack, but you can have max atk/def, almost max atk/def and then a stamina deficit
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>>175619094
His mix up is how slow his heavy are.
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>>175619228
wat
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>>175619307
some people choke super easy slow ass parries

t. constantly fucks up parrying law heavies for some reason
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>>175619421
Ah, I see.
I do this as well. IMO lights are easier to parry than most heavies
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>>175619228
>>175619421
then just play warlord instead? his heavies are similarly slow but they have hyper armour so it's always a positive trade
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>>175617874
Again though, there's absolutely no justifying missing one light attack and Valk getting a free sweep heavy on you
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>>175618952
>>175619202
Personally I like a blade with max defense and almost max attack. Sure you have a stamina deficit, but if you manage your stamina well it more than makes up for it
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>>175619560
> Playing Warlord
What kind of shitter do you take me for?
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>>175619690

yes I dont notice the stamina much either

>>175619202

aye thats what I meant, a bladw ith atk and def main stats
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>>175619421

its because to parry lights in this game you have to parry really fucking quickly, when they hevay it will fuck you up

I have the same problem ;^(
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>>175619758
idk i cant see you
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>>175620021
>hevay
you, getincamelot and, thecage
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>>175620543
It's like I'm right there playing with you.
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>>175620543
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>>175617329
Except they also said that the people of Ashfeld literally only worship a single God. So literally go fuck yourself and your headcanon. There are two literally conflicting sources and literally neither of them have been chosen over the other.
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>>175608630
not him, but pretty sure zone has longer recovery. in that situation you really want to throw out moves thatll give you more time to react and make decisions
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>>175609870
this. wtf are people doing with their lives
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>>175621089
>literally neither of them have been chosen over the other
>literally go fuck yourself and your headcanon
Well, as long as you're answering yourself
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How would you feel about no free GBs on a parry?
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>>175621768
This would be fine, really. Parrying a heavy gives you a light, parrying a light gives you either a GB or a top heavy.
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>>175621768
This makes characters with decent light spam (PK) have no real downside to spamming lights nonstop. And further fucks over characters with no real openers
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>>175622012
In theory, parrying a light would still confirm heavies without GBs. Parrying a PK light still lets you top that bitch.
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>>175621768
I wouldn't mind smaller punishments on all parrys. Although that may make light spam too good, smaller punishments off heavy parry/gb would be really nice tho
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>>175622012
But parrying a light gives a free heavy, this would just mean you can't get a gb heavy off a heavy parry, instead you would get a free light.
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>>175621768
what would be the point of gbs? to get wall splats and throws? I can see this possibly working, but it would just make the turtle meta worse, no?
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>>175622153
If the really fast attacks were slowed down a bit and chip was added I'd be cool with parries granting less free damage. Maybe even give chains bonus chip damage the longer in the chain you go, so a parry into light is still substantial due to it being the start of your chain.
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>>175622365
Is the game not working for any of you fine fellows?
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>>175622294
You can still get free GBs on people's feint frames or on dashes. It just seems silly to me that light parries give free heavies but then you also get a free gb heavy for a heavy parry.
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>>175607691
zerkerman
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>>175621768
i dont GB after parries usually anyway
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Has anyone tried to record the songs that play during duel or is it just the "Great Raid Begins" theme from the OST?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhRd_2SXs8o

I need an extended version of those drum beats.
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>>175621768
GBs after parries are my bread and butter as Lawbringer though. Parry, GB, wallsplat, top heavy to stun, side light, opposite side heavy for days
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>>175623840
I have surprisingly good success with wallsplat, top heavy, side light, top heavy + extra tap.
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>>175623840
>>175624000
Taking out the free gb would end LB's usefulness
not that he's so useful but, you know, kinda
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>>175607691
raider
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>>175624241
Light parries would still let you get the ad mortem or impale into wall splat and heavy, and heavy parries give you a free light that can chain into a heavy. On the flip side you can now throw out more heavies knowing you won't eat a heavy in return if they get the easy parry.
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>dude dont spam zone
>blocks top all the time
>Im playing orochi

come on
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>>175624756
>Dude just let me hit you with one of the fastest lights in the game that does as much damage as a heavy

Come on
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>>175624756
As someone who never plays orochi, getting hit by his zone annoys the living shit out of me. Unless you know it's coming, remember to block in that direction, or happen to have your block in that direction, there's no way to tell that shit's coming. And it does a fuckton of damage, too.

How much damage to zones do, anyway? I think it should be less than a light, but that's just me.
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>>175624997
all of the fast zones (orochi, pk, warden) do 20 damage, warlord's does 25, but i dont know anybody else's
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Okay guys, Rep 7 Law here, need some help. I need to get a samurai to rep 1, who should I go with and why is -kensei- the best option?
Also I need a viking. Was thinking in zerk but I dunno, don't like dem feint games
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>>175625159
LB does no damage, has a super long wind-up, and doesn't have a fake out direction. You should never ever get it.
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>>175625383
Best Kang for you would probably be Raider. He plays decently similarly to Law in that you just need to be a parrygod.
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>>175625159
Raiders does 2 different types. There neutral zone, the zone combo that does a FUCK TON. Unfortunately i don't know the values, ik the combo zone does a good like 1/3-1/2 of health.
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>>175625656
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0
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>>175625442
Fairly certain laws zone does 25.
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>>175625159
>>175625656
Raider's raw zone is 28. Combo'd is about double that.
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>>175625442
well, it can be used as risk-free harass sometimes and can catch people out with little punish since it's a long-range attack, and gains hyperarmour after a parry

>>175625656
28 and 50
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>>175625758
>>175625779
Thanks guys. yeah look at that 50 combo zone dmg.
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>>175624535
The problem is in the heat of the moment it's hard to tell if you parried a light or a heavy, especially with characters like Warlord having the same animation for both
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>>175624241
>Tfw all Law needed was to make long arm faster, speed up the recovery time if you miss it, and maybe add the option to feint it into a top light
>Instead he got buffed into 50/50 bullshit that really only helps you turtle or be a shove spamming fag
It's like the devs don't even play their own game
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>>175625571
Isn't he the worst character in the roster atm?
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>>175625764
and PK's is 20, what's your point?
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>>175626042
Long Arm is Law's coolest move and it exists at the moment solely to gank people.

Wish it was usable in duels outside of being a shittier option than GBing after a shove.
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>>175626146
>Zone that takes time to execute and drains fuckton of stamina vs spammable zone attack that can end you in 3 moves
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>STILL can't fucking do the daily orders with matchmaking turned off

This is driving me up the fucking wall. How did Ubisoft cock it up so badly? Jesus.
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>>175626131
people say that but I used to main law and now im kicking some ass as raider. you can do some unreal damage once you know what youre doing
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>>175626131
>40 damage off of most parries when you learn how to wallbang people effectively
>45 damage off of assassin light parries
>Mindgames with a 50 damage zone
>Unlock tech

Nah he's pretty good
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>>175626146
That 20/25 is good damage for a zone. Laws zone is fine, the faster zones just need to be slowed down. Zones are meant to be for out numbered situations or a cheeky unexpected attack. Well excluded raider any way, he's all about his zone but that's his unique thing.
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>>175626162
I almost never land it in duels because it's so telegraphed and easy to dodge. Once per duel I'll try a shove into long arm, and if it works once it will never work again
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>>175626302
>>175626334
Raider will be.
what can you guys tell me about warlord tho
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>>175626486
Shove into long arm is useful because if they dodge expecting a light, most of the time the long arm will track them because they dodged super early

It's cool to pull off but it's also immediately inferior to just throwing out a GB off the shove and taking a side heavy from that.
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>>175626131
He's pretty good I'd say, and not that hard to play for the most part. The main thing that's shit about him is his damage off of a gb, unless you get a wall splat you only get an un combod zone or light, against fagssins you don't even get the zone. But other than that he has a nice light chain, a really fucking nice soft feint and good mind game mix ups with his zone. I really don't get why raider mains act so hard done by, after learning him I really don't see where all the talk of him being shit comes from.
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>>175626295
i'm gonna give you a (you) because i've been complaining about this too and nobody cared
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>>175626594
Warlord is the best in the game at everything. Highest throw distance. High damage zone that's still decently fast. 500ms side lights. A fullblock stance. Super safe opener that guarantees damage if it lands. Heavies have super armor.

Just do anything at all as Warlord and you'll be set.
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>That feel
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>>175626594
>warlord
absolutely broken, from his moveset to his feats. out of the whole roster, he has the most robust toolkit.
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>>175626780
pPLEASE DELETE THIS...
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>>175626690
Raider has the same problems old Law had and still has thanks Ubi in that he has no way to open anyone up. His lights are parrybait, the chain is useful maybe once a fight before they realize it lunges, and all his mixups are reactable.

Raider is a god when your enemy is trying to be offensive. The moment they decide to retreat back into their shell, you're pretty fucked.
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I fought a rep 5 raider that did t even know about the heavy into stunning tap soft fient once. I don't know why raider mains always seem to be so bad.
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>>175626780
>>175626908

>Swap to my rep 6 Lawbringer
>Beat him two rounds in a row without even taking a hit
>Last round
>Get a grab on him
>About to hit him with a heavy
>He quits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbNg5_Jtd8k
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>>175626940
I fought a Rep 6 Nobushi today who just spammed attacks. Not even combos like some Nobushis do, just straight up smashing light attacks from one direction. Even after she ran out of stamina from getting parried repeatedly.

Some people are just garbage.
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>>175626302
>>175626334
>Raider main
I love the he's the worst character in the game meme, cause people expect people to be bad when they play them. Then i kill them in 3 hits and suddenly they hate Raider. I think if you have a good player playing him, he's top tier
>Parry, side heavy, side heavy, zone
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>>175626939
Well that's everyone that doesn't have a bash attacks problem, hardly an issue with raider as a character. Just shot that needs to be changed.

Also
>50/50 on shove not good enough to open people up

Apply your almond.
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>>175627142
>Stunning Tap
>Stunning Tap
>Raw Side Heavy

Raider is a bully!
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>>175627147
>50/50 on shove is good for being aggressive
>ever shoving in neutral instead of off a block

are you dumb or are you bad
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>>175627312
personally i like to use stun tap as a killing move, they never see it coming, otherwise as a mixup
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>>175626940
that's what I notice with raider players, they either don't know what they're doing or they're scary good
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>>175627412
i hope im the scary good kind. Some one told me i was once

>It made me feel good inside
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Okay fhg, Warlord or Raider?
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>ToD Order as a Heavy
>decide to Conq
>precede to get my ass completely reamed by every other class
>My FemConq is basically a dripping cum receptacle after 5 Dominion matches

how the fuck do you Conq dudes do that shit, i felt like i was running around with my bare fists or something
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>>175627362
If you can't open people up with a better versions of shield bash I don't know what to tell you. I main ken and open people up without that shit, if you can't manage it with such a tool on top of regular feinting then you're going about things wrong.
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>>175627412
>>175627530
I'm both. Had a game where first round I just ate light spam from a Valk and died because I was constantly one block in the past.

Next round, parried everything she did, threw out perfect zone reads, destroyed the bitch.

I am inconsistent.
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>>175627630
you have never played law
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>>175627587
Conq is just bizarre to play. I want to learn him but at the same time I don't becuase the skills for playing conq only apply to him and won't translate over to another character.
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>>175626295
>>175626695
I care, anons. I care a lot.
Brawl's getting annoying to play
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>>175627587
You must be the epitome of endurance and determination. You must be the shield. You must hit like a bitch because flails are bad but also block literally everything with superhuman cognition and reflexes. You must be the conq shell.
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>>175627362
>a move that opens the enemy up isn't good for opening then up

Fucking law mains, what buffs do you need next to eek a win out then? Press X to induce heart attack?
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>>175607691
R A I D E R
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>>175627587
I kinda feel bad for conq but he's still such a nigger to play against. I don't know why you conq mains persist in playing a class that isnt fun to play or against.
>>175627630
initiating with a shove is a good way to get dodged and gb'd. shove is only useful when used after a block or heavy (it chains off of heavies).
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Why do Warden mains genuinely think Warden is okay in his current state? He's essentially unbeatable by the majority of the cast if played in a certain way. They insist he's not OP and "YOU JUST GOTTA ROLL BURH XD", even though that does literally nothing for you to gain an advantage. Even IF you dodge his charge, you can't punish him. It's a totally safe move on his part. Even fucking Lawbringer's 50/50 can be massively punished if you dodge it, why is Warden a special exception?
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>>175627943
nigga i aint even a law main im just not braindead like someone i know

you ever fight a law that tried to use bash aggressively? the shit is the easiest bash in the world to dodge. its the slowest bash in the game, is narrow, and is easily punished on misses.

it doesnt open shit up it just gives your enemy free damage on you because you were stupid enough to use the fucking half second windup shove when it wasnt guaranteed

shit
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>>175627985
I just mix in empty dodges now and then to punish them with a gb once their conditioned. And once they are out of steam you can spam the shit out of it. Mix it in with laws nice chains and some fients and you can open people up better than most of the roster.
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>>175628360
>i play against shitters
laws bash out of dodge is easily reactable. no one thats not garbage should ever fall for a dry dodge
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>>175627643
happens to the best of us Raider-bro. You win some you lose some, and hopefully you learn in between.
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>rep 23 warlord 108

holy fuck, why is this even allowed?
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>>175627975
I imagine this is what that bitch in the viking campaign looks like, but with more screaming
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>>175628360
you don't even need to react until you see LB revving up the actual shove. your mindgame is only going to work on inexperienced players.
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>>175628523
>not trying to get to rep 30
why even bother?
>108 gear score
and its about to get even higher bby
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>>175628421
I just play whoever is in the duel play list, works for me most of the time when their on the back foot. But hey, we can't all be the best in the game like you I guess.
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>>175628628
>being able to react to the slowest shove in the game somehow makes me the best

nigga what is wrong with you
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warlord shouldn't have a headbutt

and remove hyper armor on heavies

hes such a bullshit charcter to fight jesus fuck
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>>175628216
Imagine Warden without shoulder bash. He's a worse Orochi anon. His top light is reactable and able to be parried from a different guard position. Don't even get me started on the side lights. His zone attack is useless because it's predicted and it's a free GB on block for whatever reason. Even if you whiff it, free top heavy if timed right or GB. Even if you hit someone in a gank, someone behind you can just GB you.

SB itself is punishable. On whiff it's a free GB. If you cancel it into GB and are out of range, free GB. Upon startup, free top light. What else do you want? 10 additional recovery frames? Warden is shit at high level. He's a shitter killer.
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>>175628792
Someone at Ubisoft signed off on this character. Someone legitimately thought Warlord was okay. And they still do, apparently.
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>>175628725
When people are pressured they make mistakes. But let's just keep pretending everyone can react to everything on que as is the name of the game for every thread. If I can open turtles up with raider laws have no excuse.
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Why does everyone fucking quit holy shit. Do they wanna preserve their shitty winrate so fucking bad?
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>>175628904
>On whiff it's a free GB

This seems like a blatant lie, honestly. Every time I have dodged the Warden's charge, I can't follow up at all. He's either too far away, or he simply techs the GB afterwards. The charge is essentially unable to be punished by a huge portion of the cast, and has a ridiculous AOE effect. Sometimes, you get hit by it even if the Warden's model is separated from your character. It's not punishable on startup if he does it from a certain range or if you are playing certain characters.
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>>175628904
>His zone attack is useless
>Flickers like crazy
>Flings out from a huge range and does 25 damage
>Incredibly fast and impossible to reaction dodge
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>>175629313
Out of all the fast zones wardens is the one in most okay with, becuase at least I don't need to parry it to get something off of it. Either all the fast zones need to be unsafe on block or the need to be slowed down. And of course flicker needs to go.
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>absolutely destroy everyone at atart of session
>7 hours later my brain is mush and I cant even block kensei

time for bed desu
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>>175629168
It's not a blatant lie, I've seen it in action. Warden tried to SB a Warlord by a ledge, and because they removed the ability to cancel into GB mid-slide, Warlord just dodged and threw him off. If he's too far away, you get free damage. Law gets a side heavy if he tries to cancel it.

>>175629313
His zone attack IS useless. Flickering is predictable. Is he low on stamina? Yes? Flicker zone. Are you low on health? Yes? Flicker zone. Is he going for a heavy that's out of range? Feint into flicker zone. It's really predictable anon, all you have to do is keep your guard left. You can move it to any other direction in-time, so there's no rush. Warden is a handicap. Orochi's zone is incredibly fast and yet people parry it. I've seen people deflect Warden zones, so it's not impossible to reaction dodge.
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>>175628904
>SB itself is punishable. On whiff it's a free GB
This is simply not true. I've dodged countless raw shoulders, and can NEVER follow it up with anything besides an assassins dash attack. Anything else can be blocked, and GBs are teched. The recovery time on the shoulder is fucking insane.

Also the start up isn't punishable because it can be canceled to parry your counter.
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>maintenance in 10 minuets
>going to be down for 180 minuets
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>maintenance for 3 hours

FUCKING REEEEEEE

They better fix fucking something
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>>175631615
>"scheduled"
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>>175629043
What roasts my almonds more than anything is how people don't ever stick around for a rematch in the 4v4 modes. You'll get a balanced match up for once, a close end where everyone is doing well win or lose.

Even with that the lobby comes post game and the losing team just fucking bails immediately.
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>>175630598
I dunno man. I've seen Warlords, Zerkers, other Wardens, and Raiders do it.

The recovery times are shit. You can get a free side heavy as Law. You can get a free top light (which means 32 or so damage from Orochi)

The start-up is easily punishable. Top light.
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>>175631782
Also, some GBs are too slow to get it. ^
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>>175631615
>>175631647
>>175631665

They will probably fix how you can't get rewards for doing dailies if you turn off MM.
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>>175631713
Nothing worse than a close 3-2 duel or something super edgy and then the guy just bails on you.
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C R I T I C A L E R R O R
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>maintenance
>>
>Maintenance happens
>Steel/exp from matches are reduced
>Feats get a secret buff
>Can no longer turn matchmaking off for orders
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>Being one Match away from last order

M<A>I<T>E<N>A<N>C<E>
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>the general will be down for maintenance for the next 180 minutes.
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>crash in for honor
>for honor is down
>nyaa is down
>crash constantly in skyrim SE

What is this hell?
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Hey im guessing some of you guys like fighting games right?

Anyone picking of Guilty Fear Xrd Rev 2?


It has Samurai
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>Maintenence will begin in 5 minutes
>Crashes immediately
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>>175631782
>The start-up is easily punishable. Top light.
Did you even read my post? You can't punish the shoulder because it can be canceled in time to parry your top light that you're trying to stop it with.
And the shoulder chains into itself, and the only way to stop it is to immediately throw out your fastest light, you can't even wait to see if he starts the shoulder. So Wardens have started to just shoulder, then stop knowing you'll throw out a light and they parry it.

Why are faggots like you so desperate to pretend the shoulder is anywhere near balanced?
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>>175632701
Its downloading as we speak. My internet is ass so I have like 10 hours still

My friend is stoked for answer, and I am ready for Baiken. I played old baiken on accent core at his house the other day and she seems pretty similar to that, so I am hyped.
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>>175632926
>Why are faggots like you so desperate to pretend the shoulder is anywhere near balanced?

Because it's balanced at the absolute highest level of play.
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>>175621443
I wasn't the one presenting my opinion as fact.
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>>175633054
>Watch literally any high level play of Warden
>They do NOTHING but spam the shoulder over and over again
Gee sure is balanced
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>>175632701

Always GG is my go fighting game next to for honor

We can both be dead together!
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>>175633131
>low levels don't know how to counter
>get fucked

>OMG THIS NOBUSHI KEEPS PARRYING ME THEY DO NOTHING BUT PARRY ALL OF MY HEAVIES
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>>175632926
No it can't. I tested it day 1, it cannot. You're exactly like Tru3Talent, pretending that there's an issue when there really isn't. I implore you to spam SB at high level and watch what happens.

>B-but I want it to be equally as shit at low-mid level play!!!

GG, nerf one-trick pony's one trick. That's real smart.
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Posting all my fashioned-out guys because why not.
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>>175633815
>Painted armour
>Using your emblem as a symbol
>Orochi
>Those ornaments
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>>175633896
Where did the orochis touch you, anon?
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>>175632701

I am so fucking dumb

getting shit on PC
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Have you guys noticed that in the opening cinematic that the viking is the one who initiates the fighting both times when everybody walks away from each other?

Are vikings just genetically predisposed to be violent? If the KANGZ were destroyed would the world know peace?
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>>175634137
On the right side, mostly. Sometimes the head.
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>>175634223
>Snowniggers known for rampaging around, raping and slaughtering innocents when they're not writing stories about their gods fucking animals, drinking semen, and slaughtering innocents
>Predisposed to violence

WOW NO FUCKING WAY ANON. If you got rid of the Kangz then the world of For Honor would probably become a beautiful paradise.
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>>175634223
the knights are murderous bastards
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>>175634223
Its the same in the story ending cinematic too, knights and samurai hesitate as the captains try to chill people out then the kangz storm in and it goes to hell.
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>>175634398
viKANG detected
go back to stealing all your food from the samurai
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>>175634398
>Sitting in my mud hut jerking off to drawings of eight legged horses
>About to finish
>Suddenly some faggot Deus Vulter bursts through my door
>He says something in his sissy gay Latin language
>Brain can't process it
>Head hurt from funny language
>Start to get angry at not being able to understand him
>Spit flies out of my mouth as I scream in retarded rage
>Run up to him and bash him to death as he tries to speak his faggot stupid nerd language

FUCKING KNIGHTS. Think they're so smart.
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I'll paint all my armor. All goddamn day.
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maintenance end when
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>>175634957
Never. They're actually just ending the game today.
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>>175633243
Except as you pointed out, we're not talking about low levels, we're talking about high level Warden gameplay. And all high level Wardens EVER do is spam the shoulder over and over.
We're talking about Wardens who compete in tournaments doing nothing but spamming shoulder nonstop
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>>175635193
This. They said so on the subreddit.
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>>175633346
>GUYS IT CANNOT BE CANCELED IN TIME TO PARRY
>But I just played a game and the warden canceled in time to parry me
>NOPE NO NU UH SHUT UP CAN'T HAPPEN
This is why everyone thinks Warden mains are huge fucking cunts

>I implore you to spam at high level play and watch what happens
Every Warden who has ever competed in a tournament has spammed at high level. One of the best Wardens entire playstyle is spamming it nonstop
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>>175635294
and in high level, warden is irrelevant. why do you think iskys was the only warden to make it to top 5 in tournaments? Hell, I saw a Nobushi beat a SB spamming Warden in a 1v1 tourney.
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>>175635471
>Shoulder is unbalanced, we can clearly see this by high level Warden gameplay in tournaments being completely dependent on the shoulder
>YEAH BUT THEY DON'T MAKE FIRST PLACE
Why do you faggots act like this means anything? Yes Warden does not place first in tournaments, because the even more broken Warlord takes first
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>>175635404
>congratulations, you have the reaction time of a fucking brick
>N-no I don't! It's why I can't parry lights!

When does the whining stop? You're forcing a narrative that Warden is fucking broken even after the nerf that you people were supposedly happy for, and now that you realize that no nerf will make you play better. I'm sorry Anon, but get good.

>warden wins tournament meme
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>>175635580
>because warden has no other move that won't get parried
>how about zone?
>predicted, blocked, and guard broken
>top light?
>parried into heavy
>s-side light? parried into heavy
>how about a double whammy side heavy into top light parry? parried.

??????
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>>175635594
>nerf
That nerf was a buff because the downsides were incredibly small, while the actual speed the shoulder comes out was sped up.

Warden being able to cancel his shoulder in time to parry my light isn't an issue with my reaction speed, it's an issue with the shoulder being incredibly overpowered. You should not be able to cancel it in time to parry. Trying to deflect with Y-YOU'RE JUST BAD is fucking pathetic
>Warden wins tournaments
I never said he wins, I said every Warden competing in a tournament spams shoulder. He doesn't win because people play even more broken characters like Warlord
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What the fuck is up with the servers?
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>>175635724
>A character having an absolutely overpowered moves with more mix ups than half the cast is fine because his other moves are shit!
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>>175635843
down for maintenance
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>>175635767
Yeah man, the inability for Warden to cancel his GB in time to stop certain heavy attacks is sure an overall buff. It's fine though, Warden's shoulder bash should be it's old speed (the speed of Nobushi's kick) because that's working as intended y'know? Not like Warden matters, just nerf it because I can't beat it. That'll show them Warden mains after they spam Good Fight!

It is an issue with your reaction speed. Why are you the only one having trouble stopping it with a top light? If you can't even do that, then roll away I guess? It's not a real solution, but until you learn to actually interrupt it, that's the best you'll get. IDK man, I've yet to see a Warden cancel into parry/CC against anyone who's competent and knows what they're doing.

>Warden would win tournaments if not for SB
Those lights and zone attacks will decimate all!
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>>175635862
>Warden has overpowered MOVES

List something other than shoulder bash. This is a new type of delusion.

Take a look at his moveset right now. See how the scrollwheel doesn't go down? Yeah. Nah that's fine, nerf Warden. You don't get to learn the game so you get the developers to wipe your ass for you.
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no ones on?
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So for honor is full of

40k fags

Soul Calibur fags


And now guilty gear fags
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>>175636375

And 2 of those are ded games so we have that in common :^)
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>>175636375
We are a diverse General
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>>175635936
Son of a bitch
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>>175636191
The only move Warden has that is overpowered is the shoulder, which has more mix ups than other characters have in their entire move sets.
>>175636062
>Yeah Warden can cancel and parry you, but that's like an issue of your reaction speed man
It's like talking to a fucking brick wall. I know you top light him to stop him, but COUNTLESS times I've been parried trying to do that because he cancels into a parry
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>>175637298
sorry you have bad timing friend. Maybe follow the thing on the bottom right that says "Hone your skills in practice!"?
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>>175637298
>It's like talking to a fucking brick wall
It's been like that since every wardens in existence started to spam the shoulderbash.
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> no more for honor for two more hours
I just wanted to get some contracts done before bed
Why can't they do this shit at a time when nobody's on, or at least talk about what they're fixing
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>>175632656
>Skyrim SE
You deserve this hell for being a dumb.
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>>175637581
I think Raider zone should be nerfed because I can't block it!
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>>175637632
>Two hours
Time to draw porn
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>>175637510
Tell me exactly how it's an issue of my reaction speed. I see the shoulder coming and I instantly spam top light because it's the only way to stop him. Yet he can still cancel in time and parry.
This is not an issue of my reaction speed, it's an issue of the shoulder having ridiculous mix ups and little to no actual punishment.
Meanwhile we have characters like Lawbringer having his long arm being completely useless, you can't feint it, and doing it is a suicide move because of how slow it is. You can't feint Nobushi's kick, hell the shoulder is only of the only unblockables that you can feint
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>>175637747
because you try and top light after the warden makes contact with you is what I'm assuming. there's literally no way to do it on time and have him parry it. I went over it with every character.

Would you like to add me on uPlay so we can do some practice tomorrow?

The inability to feint is an issue with other characters, not Warden. The ability to feint long-arm would be great. The ability to feint the kick would be great.
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>>175599520
You're also a fucking idiot if you think that jumping to the faction everyone and their mother is bandwagon in to right now is going to lead to you being on the winning team next season.
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With all this warden talk, I really have to just come out and say Fuck Warden mains.

They are pretentious and egotistical and just straight up dickhead for no real discernible reason.

I hope Ubi nerfs him into the ground so maybe the mains can be a bit more fucking humble about themselves.
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>Changing zerk's helmet changes his hair color

How the fuck did I not notice this until rep 3
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>>175637740
draw a cute fem zerker
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>>175638093
>They are pretentious and egotistical and just straight up dickhead for no real discernible reason.

This, they have this weird superiority complex and elitism.
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>>175638093
>>175638260

Post TFW Shoulder bash is only made usable after GB/lights and people still complain about Warden and want it nerfed even more
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>>175637740
Female centurion in boob plate
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>>175637740
I need More Valk Porn

Maybe some Futa Valk Raping a Female Nobushi/Orochi while telling them to shut up because she doesn't speak japanese anyway
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>>175638093
Fuck Warlord and Conq mains while we are at it.
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>>175638147
>>175638286
>>175638430
I didn't said anything about For Honor porn or request.
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>>175638682
Fire emblem porn then
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>>175638682
no, you must sate the yearning masses while we are without our vidya don't think I don't remember the purge
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>>175638641
Warlod and Conq mains tend to not be assholes. Conq mains tend to just acknowledge Conq is a cunt to play/fight, and Warlord mains don't say anything ever because they know.
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>>175638860
You mustn't speak of these things. The dark times have passed for this general... let us rest. Why stir up the specter of smuts past.
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servers are up for me.
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>>175638074
>You're clearly getting hit before you top light!
Your argument doesn't even fucking make sense.
>Your reaction speed is bad! You're getting parried because you're throwing out a light after your hit
How does this even fucking make sense you retard? And yes, clearly there is a way to do it on time and have him parry it, because it's ALL WARDENS EVER DO
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>>175638093
I hate Warden mains because they cannot handle any criticisms about their character and insist the problem is with other people being bad, not them spamming a single move for the entire duration of the fight. Win or lose, it's not fucking fun to fight against.
They're right up there with PKs spamming the same move over and over and insisting nothing is wrong
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>>175639932
>They're right up there with PKs spamming the same move over and over and insisting nothing is wrong

I'm getting a lot of shit for it but honestly this is why I love playing PK currently
You can player her well and have a lot of varied move and basically not being a spamming little shit-that doesn't make her any less OP however-, and you can be a cocksucker and spamming the same lights and zone to the same type of cocksuckers who only spam zone, shoudlerbash, headbutt, and so on.
She's the be all end all and I love it like a milkshake.
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>>175638430
>vikangz
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>>175638286
I feel like the real issue with having a female centurion is how HUGGEEE they made the male version.
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>>175638138
Same for Valk, not sure why it isn't also true for Fem Warden's braid. Nobushi hairdo also changes with the different masks, but is always azn black.
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>>175640159
PKs who abuse their ridiculous mix ups are absolute scum. Especially on console where you cannot react in time with the indicators appearing the second the hit comes
>Feinting heavies into lights
>Zone canceling into lights
You can't react to this shit at all on console. I'm fucking amazed nothing has been done about this, especially considering console has the higher playbase
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How do I play Raider?

Also, what the fuck can I do after a parry/GB?
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>>175640505
Because the devs believe that if you nerf her speed she have nothing.
what they don't realize however is that for her speed she deal way too much damages, and she isn't particulary squishy for an assassin that deal a lot of damages at an insane speed.
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>>175640597
If they're worried about her having nothing they should realize she needs to be reworked. How can you think to yourself "Well if we take away her lightning fast lights that she can feint into fluidly she'll have nothing!" and not realize you made a shit character that needs to be reworked?
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>>175638949
It's depressing...

We have no lewd, it was taken from us...

STOLEN FROM US
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>>175640693
Because by now the game is "finished" and reworking an entire character mean a lot of shit to be done
For the PK it'd almost be like making a new character from scratch which I would be okay with because I'd rather have something else for the Knight assassin
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>>175638912
>Conq bash ganks you out of nowhere
>keeps sprinting around and bashing while the other guy cuts you down
>violently pelvic thrusts over your corpse like it was some big win

>Warlord gets revenge in a 2v2
>Headbutts you to the mat and lands a heavy
>Rinse repeat
>crouch emote "teabags" your corpse

>Warlord grabs you in a gank
>turns you around and pushes you 200m on his shield
>you just let this happen
>fall into a small puddle of water in a half dry fountain and die
>Warlord spams Wow!

>Warlord has 108 gear and has been ganking up a storm all round
>passive feat set combined with high defense and attack gear turn him into a demigod
>you finally manage to kill him
>gets back up and finishes you off

Nah they are cunts.
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>>175640831
>Be Nobushi
>Overwatch C point
>Team is breaking
>Enemy team has a lawbringer, two warlord, and a peacekeeper
>Peacekeeper is like Kenshiro while one warlord spam guardbreak and the other headbutt
>Law either shove or NO SUPERSTES AD NAUSEATUM
>Die in a few seconds
>One of the warlord crouch spam my corpse

The thing is, be it Peacekeepers, warlords, warden and what have you, I don't mind losing if it was at least an interesting and enjoying fights.
There it sure as fuck wasn't.
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>>175640505
PK's last nerf was meant to punish those who do literally nothing but mash lights. Now she has to finish her plate and at least start to commit to a heavy when going through the chain. The zone was also nerfed recently so it's not as oppressive.

The devs are not going to actually slow the attacks down, because they know that if they slow down PK's lights, she's irrevocably fucked.
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>>175629313
>25 damage
it's 20 damage, same as PK's and orochi's
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>>175641003
I'm comfortable getting out skilled. Someone consistently parries my lights even if I feint into them then fuck me I can't be mad they could do that with any hero and kill me.

If I get shut down by some lame bullshit bash spam or feat/gear insanity then that just isn't fun.
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Can we do our dailies in matchmaking off AI matches yet?
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>Decide to do a player versus AI match to test if I can get my orders done
>This happens

Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>175641043
It still does nothing to stop them from just feinting the final heavy in the chain I believe.
Also it's not saying much that they have to finish the chain when they can always just feint into a light and try a GB, before backing up and feinting into a light again.

They've said they're looking into slowing down her lights in the future, but it's going to take fucking forever because they'll probably rework her in some way
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>Dominion Match.
>Somehow get to 800+ score.
>Team is Breaking.
>Look at score card.
>Second highest score on team is 300, then everyone else is less than 150
>Enemy side has 2 people with 500+
>Their lowest is 350

I legit don't feel bad for crashing my FH on purpose. If Ubi is not fixing shitty matchmaking, I'm gonna abuse the fuck out of P2P and make it crash for everyone.
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>>175641691
If they're going to slow down Peacekeeper's lights, then they'd have to slow down all other 500ms lights to compensate, and THAT will fuck everyone up.
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>>175641639
The battlefield is that way, Knight. Now get back there
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>>175641816
Personally her second light being faster than the first is just beyond retarded. And she can chain lights faster than any other class I believe. She's literally capable of winning fights on console doing nothing just light spam and feints
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>>175641230
>games PVP is so retardedly unbalanced that people would literally rather play it single player

kek
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>>175641746
That only works if you are the host
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>>175641746
Divulge your secrets to me, Anon. Tell me how I may crash everyones shit when matchmaking fucks us.
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>>175642181
It's more that it takes me a good hour to find a match nowadays and I would rather not wait that long to play a mode I don't much care for.
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>>175642254
>>175642264
Something Something P2P. Something Something Kick everyone Out. Something Something Le Leet h44xor Le Epic Ecks Dee. Don't forget to hide behind 7 proxies.
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are there any keysites that has this for cheaper than steam?
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>>175642396

Just AltF4 as the host and everything goes to shit m8. The game fucks up the host migration if your game ends abruptly
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>>175642483
How do you know you're the host?
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>Conq I just dueled complaining that Raider gets a free unblockable after a GB

Raider's unblockable does about as much damage as a regular heavy and uses WAY more stamina, right?
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>>175642447
G2A, probably. Dunno why you'd wanna buy it this late into its life cycle, it's basically dead.
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>>175642675
>pc fags think people buy fighting games on pc.
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Feats are sucn unfun shit. Getting hit for 35+ damage with a Kunai and tier 2 feats.

>>175642483
So you're saying all it takes is to Drop Hack the host?
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>>175642675
Bahh, it's not that bad, is it??
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Why the fuck is this game so dead?
Shitty servers? Stale combat? Jewy practices?

This isn't a rethorical question, I really don't know
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>>175642798
Yeah, it is. You can find duels pretty fast, but if you don't live in the USA or somewhere with a high population, you're not gonna find a 4v4.

>>175642924
Shitty servers and not enough content. The release schedule for new maps and heroes is sluggish as fuck. Shoulda been a new character every month at the most.
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>>175642998
>Shitty servers and not enough content. The release schedule for new maps and heroes is sluggish as fuck. Shoulda been a new character every month at the most.
But Siege did all that and the game is thriving, I just wish they gave us the same amount of attention ;_;
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>>175642798
no, you can find matches in any game mode relatively quickly, what kills the game are all the d/c issues. You don't even want to know my play time to pvp play time ratio.
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Obersrvable found at Ruined Church: “The children of Ashfeld claim to all follow the same God, but I have sat in their services, and listened to their hymns. They do not agree on the laws of their master, and most of them do not follow their own ideals.”

Weird how people always say the Knights follow multiple gods because of some fire-stone-rock quote or something. Apollyon clearly says they follow one god in this observable. DAY-OOS VOLT XD
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>>175642998

>if you don't live in the USA or somewhere with a high population, you're not gonna find a 4v4.
But anon, this is completely wrong.
It does not take me longer than 1 minute to find a 4v4 match. Stop spreading shit.
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>>175640523
You get a confirmed zone off of a GB against non-assassin characters. You can try it against assassins and it'll probably connect, but they can parry it. Most won't, though.

Parry an assassin light, you get a top heavy.

Parry a non-assassin light, you get a side heavy. I also believe that you get a top heavy if the parry direction was top, but that might not be true.

You get literally nothing for parrying a long-range character's heavy.
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>>175643446
>You get literally nothing for parrying a long-range character's heavy.
Isn't that true for basically everyone though?

Do I get anything off a Heavy Parry?
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>>175643232
Today I got disconnected from 4 matches in a row, so I can relate, I wonder when Ubi will fix their shit
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>>175642998
>If you live on the philippines you will not find matches
Yeah great, if you live in bumfuck nowhere then you shouldn't be playing online games n the first place.
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>People saw conq is bad.
>Can destroy one health bar with max gear and bash+light.
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>>175643524
>Isn't that true for basically everyone though?
For the most part, no. Most characters do get something off of a long-range heavy parry, even if it's only a light attack. They do some magical lunge forward to connect their hit. I'm sure there are other cases of not getting anything, but the characters I can think of, do.

If you heavy parry a normal-range character, then you get a GB into zone. Or wall splat into top or side heavy, which is definitely your best bet, if possible. Just like any character's heavy parry, which is why I didn't include it.
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>>175643524
I'm pretty sure you can get a light on the same direction the parry was, depending on the character. I main Nobushi and if I parry a Nobushi, Kensei, or Shugo heavy as long as I don't switch my stance at all and do a light right after the party it's guaranteed.
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>>175643757

They were refering to epic 1v1 battles because this game was designed for the ESL from the ground up
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>>175643870
Feats are legit one of worst shit about the game, and Conq and Warlord getting top tier passives.
Dude basically gets free heals on blocks, oh and can simply shield bash you to death, and is downright useful everywhere.
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>>175626730
Lights have superior armor and heavies are uninterruptible
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>>175643363
I live in Australia and spent 2 hours looking for a 4v4 so I could do my orders on the weekend. You better live in America or western Europe, or you're fucked.
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>>175644090
I 100% agree.

Meanwhile LB has absolutely FUCK ALL for feats, literally the only useful ones are second wind (which is tier 3 while warden gets it at tier 1, the fuck is up with that) and catapult which is max tier.
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>>175644309
>Australia
Why do you even torture us with your connection, it's never going to go well. You are too far away.
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>>175644312
Grenades on Law are useful as well, but he really doesn't have much going for him beyond that and second wind.

Also Nobushi has a fucking retardly broken heal that heals her entire goddamn healthbar instantly
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>>175644312
>warden gets it at tier 1
What no. Warden's second wind is also Tier 3 for him, but yeah LB should also get better passives.
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>>175644415
LB has one grenade and thats the blinding one which lasts for a second at most. Its garbage.
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>>175644534
>LB has one grenade and thats the blinding one
No? One of his tier 4 feats is 4 damaging grenades. They do almost half a health bar of damage
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>Dominion
>It's an Episode of AFK causing us to lose match.
>Save Recording and Report to Ubi.
I just wish they gave them something more than a warning.

>>175644534
It can be useful. It reduces stamina to 0, but it's pretty small.

>>175644719
You have to choose between Catapult that'll fuck entire HP up or Half HP but big AoE. Honestly, his Level 3 feat is better.
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>>175644371
I have never found a game with Amerikans, honestly. I live at the absolute bottom of the mainland, in the middle, so I doubt I ever will. It's too far away for the matchmaking to even try.
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>enemy is aggressive
>throws out attack after attack with literally no time in between, and you parry every single one and punish
>complains that you turtle

It's not my fault your dumbass literally gave me no chance to attack from neutral
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>>175641639
I assume orders versus AI with matchmaking off is still borked.
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>>175644780
You get banned after getting a warning.
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>>175644780
I always go with the nades over catapult because revenge boosts the nades to do almost an entire health bar of damage.
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>>175644839
This has happened so many times now.

>Facing another Kensei as Kensei
>He is fucking crazy aggressive, never get a chance to attack, spend most of my time parrying and the like
>He complains that I play "defensively"

If you are playing hyper-aggressive, do you really expect your opponent to do the same? It's like complaining that your opponents aren't storming out the gates to meet you when you're besieging them.
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Since PK supposedly has higher recovery after the second light does that mean i can get an untechable GB on her or anything? What is the punish?

I'm a Lawbringer
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>>175644856
Yep. I was hoping the maintenance would fix it, but no.

>>175644925
Nope. The higher recovery just means she can't spam quite as fast. As LB, your primary option is to parry the first light and get Blind Justice off it.
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>>175644875
So these people can't play online anymore?
I made my videos Unlisted but have 0 views. Does Ubi even cares?

>>175644909
Still, chances are someone will survive that anyway. Warlords mostly.

>>175644914
I once killed a Kensei as Nobushi by doing top heavy. Outranged him and he was like "WOW WOW WOW" then rage quit.
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>>175644914
>parry a kensei's side dash attack
>he does it again
>and again
>dies because 3 light parries
>complains that i never attack

It's pretty hilarious actually
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Does anyone know max punish on Conquerer?
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>>175644312
Parry passive is ok it's like 5 sec duration
Jug is good for getting gangbanged
I use stungrenade for killing soldiers in dominion without having to go near soldiers, it has short cd
Grenade lvl3 4 are good, I use both on my feat build, it's like catapult dmg but I have 3 more grenades left
Heal is good
Haven't used protected revive, I suppose it's ok
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>Play against a guy who says he's new
>Assume he's fucking lying to meme on me
>Absolutely crush him remorselessly
>He says "sorry i don't wanna play with u ur too good" and quits during our rematch

I am a monster.
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>>175645801
Yes you are, Anon.
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>>175645151
No you get a warning, if you continue you get temp banned, if you continue you eventually get permabanned. Ubi isn't specific about how many times you need to get banned for perma
You'll prob get a view a week later.
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What's the highest un-upgraded Heroic Gear drop level?

I just have a bunch of Lvl 13 stuff but I'm just Rep 3.
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>>175645935
Prob 18
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>>175645935
>>175646019
The higher your rep, the higher the gear you find.
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>>175645894
>You'll prob get a view a week later.
I've reported like 3+ people, but none of them have views. I did got an email reply, and "Actions will be taken against player"
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>>175645935
>That fucking roll after stabbing the first orochi
Every fucking time
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Welp I finally got every character to at least rep 1.
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Alright faggots first reply decide which Faction I'll fight for in the next season.
And to make things even more autistic I will only play heroes from that faction

Make it good
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Seriously? No one knows the max damage combo you can do to an out of stam opponent when you GB and throw them as a Conq?
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>>175647348
C E N T U R I O N
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>>175647348
It doesnt matter
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>>175647416
Guess it's AD MORTEM time

>>175647474
Fuck off cunt we're full
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So can anyone give me conclusive way to hit someone with top heavy after bash. I'm supposed to get HA, Release Square, then just as I connect with them do a top heavy right?
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>>175625383
Probably Kensei; really rewards good basics and works well off parries and grabs.
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>>175645935
>>175646230
>>175646019
spoken like true beginners.
Max from matches is 15.
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What does it means if my Emblem is flashing? First time I've had it happen, or noticed.
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>>175649473
Your mouse coursor hovered over it
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Does warlord get a fast side heavy if he does it during/right out of full block?
Just died to a side heavy that was light attack fast, probably around 500 ms if I had to guess, since it reminded me of a PK light.
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>both orders are for duels
I guess im missing those 800 steel
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>>175650420
>Play duel
>Beat someone using a below rep 1 character
>They instantly ready up for a rematch
>Back out because I know they're going to switch to a rep 100000000000 Warlord/Warden/PK
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>>175633815
why does your roach have a jew candle on his head?
>>
Ordered the game, arrives tomorrow
First reply decides which faction ill join in the season
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>>175644817
Adelaide?
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>>175650596

Zulu nation
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>>175650420
Duels take 10 minutes or something. I love duel orders because all the 4v4 champions come out to get fucking crushed in 1v1. Had a guy I was just facing say he was gonna kick my ass, then I beat him 3 times in a row and he was actually apologetic and admitted to mainly playing 4v4 and not really knowing how to duel. He didn't parry me once.

>>175650684
Yes.

>Still can't do orders in PVAI
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>>175650784
but duels are fucking boring
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>>175651194
I find them pretty fun, spend most of my time in them because finding a 4v4 in fucking Australia is an impossibility. Also, you don't have to deal with 108 gear score Warlords in Duels.
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>>175650596
Kights.
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>>175651253
No but you have to deal with warlords and that's almost as bad
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Fight on the cap zone please, for the love of god. Neutralize the damn cap zone.
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>>175651776
I don't understand this Warlord meme. Sure I get the PK light and Warden shoulder bash complaints because those actually give me trouble when used by good players, and I feel that it's unfair that they have such powerful tools and other characters don't. But I've nevertheless had any problem with Warlords. Their heavies are parry bait, the lights, even if they do hit you, do almost no damage even to an assassin, and the ledging thing is easily preventable because they have no real way to set up a good GB besides a parry. The zone can be fast, but so are lots of other zones. Headbutt spam is easily beaten by some dodges after you figure out their pattern. Maybe it's just because I main Nobushi and normally stay out of their range, but I've just never had a problem with any Warlords.
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WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO FIX BERZERKER RECOVERY
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>>175652025
>complains about PK and Warden
>warlord is ok
>even tho warlord has tools from both classes mentioned above
i wonder who is behind this post?
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I got It.
I got over 700 points in a dominion with Nobu. You don't fight fair. You run like a madman and stab people with bleed without locking on, set up first stab empty into a kick on bridges.
I barely ever lock on and sidestep into heavies to hit multiple enemies. I'm being chased by roaches by dozens, turn around last second, apply bleed and run again. I just won several games by acting like a fucking bugs bunny.

I love this game
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>orochi zone attack still shows you the wrong direction
fuck this shit, im coming back when the centurion is released
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>>175652230

i regularly get more points than that with conq, law or warden by just playing normally

you should git gud my friend
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>>175652025
Well, I don't turtle like everyone else does. Sure, I could, and I'd win almost every single match, but I don't care about winning as much as I care about actually doing something and having fun. Which means I'll throw out attacks. I'll lose more because of it, but oh well, it's more fun than staring at each other the whole time.

Which means, one parry, and I'm probably dead, on a lot of the maps.

>then don't attack hurr durr you're dumb high level play is not attacking

Like I said, boring.

And it can be a bit hard to dodge the headbutt when the GB tech button is the same finger
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>Duel order
>Warden, Warden, Warlord
And that kids, is why you only play duel for orders
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>>175652025

>super armor heavies
>superior block lights
>parries to instant death within a mile of any environmental
>dash attack mix up is almost as good as prepatch Shug
>has a shield with full guard
>headbutt comes out faster than shove, shoulder or bash
>heavy character with 500ms attacks

and so on. warlord has more useful moves and properties in his kit than any other two classes combined. if youre playing nobu and not getting slapped by warlords then you must have a really really low MMR
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>>175652487

I don't even bother with Relentless Duelist orders anymore, 1v1 in this game gives me aids. Winning feels empty, losing to bullshit feels like crap.
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>>175652345

>i could win almost every match but i prefer fun ;^)

thanks for taking it easy on us anon. the community thanks you
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>>175652025
M8 just stop. I main Warlord and acknlowedge he is bullshit OP. No nerf so far has changed this even if things got a bit better.
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>>175652487
>>175652636
I just Alt-F4 if I see a Warlord or Warden. Game becomes instantly more fun.
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>>175652792
Wouldnt be easier to just quit the match instead of realoading the game everytime? :^)
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>>175652890
Probably. I'd rather not even spawn in.
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>>175652552
Don't forget to add
>Can actually tech gb when in full block stance
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>>175652168
I said I main Nobushi. I haven't ever played Warlord outside of the campaign.
>>175652552
>super armor heavies
Parry bait
>superior block lights
Parry bait
>parries to instant death
Hidden stance light feints work wonders to not get parried
>dash attack mix up
What? Just block and brace for GB if he doesn't do top heavy?
>full guard
I laugh at full guard. Hidden stance into kick.
>headbutt meme
Easy to dodge from neutral. If he does land it he only gets a tiny little stab that does like 50 damage. Almost all Warlords follow it up with a zone too, which makes for another easy parry.
>low MMR
Does this game have MMR? I don't think so. I'm in the top 10% of all Nobu's though. I understand Warlord is a really good character with lots of strong tools, but I don't think he's really PK-spam or Warden shoulder vortex levels of cancer.
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It's impossible to find any beginner or advanced Kensei tips on youtube.
Do I get a top heavy after a light parry?
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>>175653115
Even if you do, side heavy does 40 damage, which is more than top heavy. In other words, you don't want to do a top heavy anyway.
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>>175653027
warlord is one of the worst matchups for nobushi, you are full of crap
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>>175652642
The fact that most players are shit enough to lose to me playing aggressive already, and they'll just get bored and leave before they can out-turtle me

You're welcome, anon ;^)
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Hi HP_KOPPI_HUN
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>>175653176
Ah, I see. I did not know that.
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>High fort
>Run toward Ledge-land
>Notices a conq camping it running toward me as I enter the bridge
>As soon as I stop running he do an instant 180° and go back in the point at the end of the bridge
>He start taunting with the pelvic thrust
>Just throw a flash bomb and then ledge his ass
>Do this three time
>Fourth time I just catapult his ass
>Russkie runes start flooding the chat
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>>175653204
Please point out exactly how I am full of crap. I'm prestige 10 with her, and I've never met a Warlord that's given me too much trouble that I could put down to the class being too strong and not just the player behind the character having really good fundamentals. Anything the Warlord can do, even when used by a really good player, is counterable in some reasonable way or form. The same is not true of Warlord shoulder bash or PK light spam. When I lose to a really good Warlord I know that I didn't so much lose to the character as I did to the player out-thinking and out-playing me. Whereas with PK and Warden, if I lose to light spam or shoulder vortex I feel like I lost to the character instead of the player. You don't have to actually be good to pick up Warden and PK and shoulder charge or light spam someone to death. You DO have to be a good player to make Warlord work well. That's why I feel the "Warlord is so OP omg plz nerf I quit every duel with a Warlord in it" is a meme.
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Another LB in duel rarequitting, I know you are here.
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>very high activity
>matchmaking times out
BOY HOWDY I SURE DO LOVE THIS BULLSHIT
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>>175653631
>warlord is counterable
>warden and pk is not
>plays nobushi
yes, you are full of shit
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>rep 12 108 shugoki
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>>175653809
Again, please explain exactly how so? I'm really curious as to your reasoning.
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>>175650093
yep. i don't think it's THAT fast but it's faster than his up heavy. learn which side he swings from when he does it and guard that side when you see him pop into full block. he can also headbutt from that position.
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>>175653869
i dont have to
for one thing, nobushi cant ever throw an attack vs warlod, everything is punished

warden - can nullify his 50/50
pk - 3 parries and she is dead
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>>175653027

>super armor heavies
Parry bait
>superior block lights
Parry bait
>everything is parry bait!
says the guy who mains a class with super telegraphed moves and no bashes that dont require a combo or stance set up

>thinks hidden stance into kick beats anything at all

opinion disregarded

>top 10% of nobus
>10%
lel


you must surely be a false flagging warlord main. no one is sincerely this ignorant/retarded
opinion completely disregarded
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>>175651253
gear score doesn't do shit in duels
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>>175654018
>no one can every throw an attack vs anyone, everything is punished
Congrats, you beat For Honor. Yeah dude, just nullify 50/50 every time, right? Yeah, just parry PK perfectly every time and 3 heavies and she's dead, right? Good thing no one ever makes a mistake ever and mindgames don't work because we're all androids!
>>175654019
At least the guy above gave me a somewhat coherent argument to counter. You just did a few meme replies, used the "hurr false flag" meme and said "haha opinion disregarded, checkmate kid!" I can't even argue back against you, because you didn't provide any coherent points to talk about.
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>>175654229
>warlord lights are parry bait but PKs are not
>he does not know about nobushis innate abilities
>he is rep 10 with her
pls stop false flagging or being so full of shit
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>>175654019
I don't want to say "you're just bad," but fuck man. You have this much trouble with Warlord? You're just bad.
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>>175654229
>No one can be expected to make perfect plays
>Warlord is fine, just make perfect plays

Do you even know how much you're contradicting yourself?
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we are back boys with the 1st rage quit of the day
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>>175654357
Unlike PK's, Warlord lights can't be spammed with almost no recovery time.
>he doesn't know Nobushi's innate abilities
What? Are you trying to vaguely reference wavedashing?
Fucking hell. I came to this general thinking people would have at least a little bit more knowledge of the game than Reddit, but you've proven me wrong. You all are retarded as fuck, peace.
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>>175654229

your opinion is that all of the warlords attacks are "parry bait" and you say this as a main of a class with some of the most telegraphed attacks in the game and no ability to bash from neutral

you say you can beat warlords easily as nobushi despite everyone knowing that warlord is a horrible match up for nobu, as he is for every class in the game. and to support your argument you claim that hidden stance->kick is a useful tool. you might as well claim that conq's full guard->bash has some utility in 1v1 as its basically the same thing, a stance change into a bash.

you'll full of utter shite mate. i dont even know why im replying at this point. youre either a spoofer or the world's luckiest nobu main to have never encountered a semi competent warlord. and i'm betting heavily on the former
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>>175654450
I mean, you can't really blame him. Warden is as unenjoyable to deal with as Conqueror.
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>>175654450
What else would he do against your BS tho
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>>175654450

>bragging as post buff warden

lmao. play an honest class if you want people to give a shit
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>>175654627
lmao cry more buh
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>Enjoyed Warden in beta
>Seemed pretty balanced
>Getting the game now
>Apparently Warden is bullshit now

What changed
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>>175654627
why do people say it was a buff, i still do not understand
or is calling a nerf a buff a le funny /vg/ meme
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>>175654450
>look at me spamming my OP move, haha I sure am good. Got that poor fucker. Got him good.
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>Duel cancer order
>vs Warlord
>Both at last bit of health
>Hit him same time he hits me
>See him die on my screen
>Lolnope, animation gets reversed, he stands, I'm dead

GAME'S RIGGED IN FAVOR OF VIKINGS
R I G G E D
I
G
G
E
D
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>>175654758

shoulder is faster now and the other nerfs were minor enough to change nothing at all about the utility of it
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>>175654756
People figured out what he could do
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>>175654450
and another one
>>175654567
true, but kinda feels good
because before the nerfs conq was unwinnable match up for warden, tho they went overboard with the nerfs, i only hope they are secretly reworking him

>>175654571
>>175654627
>>175654791
lmaoing@you
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>>175654756
People figured him out. A lot of stuff changed for a lot of characters simply by virtue of people figuring things out. I remember people bitching about Nobushi during the beta because of her range and poison, now she's really low tier unless you're abusing bugs.

>Buying the game this late

Jeeze.

>>175654758
His charge comes out faster now. The buff is a lot bigger than the nerf to a lot of people.
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>>175654756
People learned the game, and shoulder turned out to be the game changer.
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>>175654882
forgot the webm
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Is Kensei truly the worst character in the game?
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>>175654450
As is its hard with Warden, I already got 2 ragequits today with Ken, get on my lvl.
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>>175655027
He's pretty bad, but his sheer damage output when you make him work stops him from being the "worst". Conqueror is fucking horrendously bad, Shugoki isn't very good since the nerf, and Berzeker is pitifully easy to counter.
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>>175654982
>That tracking on the fucking shoulder

Who the fuck thought this was okay?
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>>175655101
just for you, he rq right after

>>175655197
i knew he would try the dodge memes, so i held my shoulder to lvl3
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>>175655197
holy fuck i thought i was the only one who notices it. Its the same fucking thing with GB. Makes my ass cheeks rumble.
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WHY IS LAWBRINGER GETTING FREE TOP LIGHTS AFTER HIS SHOVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>175655261
If he had you would have kept it in the vid
>>175655261
>so i held my shoulder to lvl3
for second I though we are in some Dragon Ball general
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>>175654450
That reminds me of a conq i played last night.
>Play him as Raider
>he keeps trying to spam shield bash + att
>i keep dodging, he keeps missing
>finally comes to an 180 of where we were
> he goes for it again, i dodge back
>GB him, throw him off cliff
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!
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I fucking hate Orochi. That character fucks me up more than anyone else. He does a shitload of damage and can follow up attacks really fucking fast. Doesn't help that most turtle like a motherfucker and wait so they can do their shitty dodge attack.

I play raider mostly which doesn't help either.
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>>175655318
Raw shove? Can be easily dodged, it's incredibly narrow. Shove off block? You can reaction dodge the light (you have about 500ms to do so) and get a free GB on him. Against a good player, particularly an assassin, doing the shove off block feels more dangerous than it's worth.
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>>175655318
Its not free tho, you can dodge it to give him free heavy instead
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>>175655369
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>>175655423
Raider is a bug stomp-er tho, anon. Just be patient, and parry his attacks, most of the time you can get a side heavy in after the parry.
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>>175654884
>Buying the game this late
I decided to wait until the price lowered, and the Centurion is coming soon so it seems like a good time
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>tfw you consummate your marriage
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>>175655629
If you wanna play Centurion, you're gonna have to earn yourself at least 15k steel within 3 weeks of getting the game. If you do all your daily challenges, you can get around 1-1.5k a day.
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>>175655261
Le kick is really most unsafe move guise.
You can just GB it. You can just heavy them. Hahaha!
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>>175655727
uh anon what is that sword doing
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>>175655794
Nobushi's kick is super unsafe. Once you get used to the timing on dodging it, it's basically a free light or parry once they inevitably follow up with a light after whiffing.
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>>175655794
>>175655925
If i dodge it i usually get a side heavy in.
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>>175655925
but he's right, you can't punish it with a GB if they follow with a light.
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my game lost a contact lens
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>>175656256
>game needs 3d glasses

dropped
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>playing duel
>legitimately having a good fight
>Say "Good Fight!" after each round
>he only says it if he won the round
ok
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>cutting it close

>>175655835
just a weird angle
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>>175654847
what were the changes?
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>>175656453
missing shoulder gives free gb
hyper armor comes out alter
delay after cancelling it, so no more reaction parries
reduced the time it can be cancelled into gb, to prevent holding it until the enemy dodges
increased the speed slightly
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>>175656256
Now go into match like this. Our team somehow survived and we won.
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>>175655492
>lobby
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>>175656528
>>175656453

speed buff means that PK is the only class that can stuff the shoulder with lights on reaction now

it also means that the reduced time to cancel into GB is not an issue as you have to dodge faster if you want to get away

the "free" gb timing is about as strict as any bash attack in the game, that is to say that only raider can get it consistently, as was always the case


long story short its like the reverse of what happened to conq's heavies. they nerfed one property and buffed another but it came out significantly worse. but as i said with warden, its the opposite
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>>175656309
I wish I had friends who'd let me practice that bash-top heavy. :(
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>>175656818
>I wish I had friends
same
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>tfw used to be warden main
>tfw used to think I was hot shit spamming sb

Oh how naive I was
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>>175656309
>just interrupt it with a light haha
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>>175656818
>I wish I had friends
same

>>175656693
happy?
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>>175656920
I went from Raider main to play Warden for a little. I couldn't even fucking use the SB effectively so i never even tried. mfw everyone in duel messaged m,e saying
>"Thanks for not being a SB spamming shitter"
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>>175656991
there we go!
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>>175657002
I thank you too anon. You make this game community less shit
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>>175655423
their zone flicker makes them cancer to play against
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Random question to fellow anons. What would you prefer first to get fixed. Zone Flicker, or Attacks passing through guards?
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>>175657118
>making the community less shit because i dont know how to play warden

Really speaks to ya
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>>175657306
I'd rather they fixed flickering. The attacks passing through guards thing is a connection issue not a game issue

On that topic I'd like it if they unfucked the action queues in regards to guard changes and dodges
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>>175657306
Zone flicker happens in every single match against characters who can utilise it, so Zone Flicker.
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> 3 (THREE) hour maintenance
>they still haven't fixed the vs AI rewards
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>>175657306
do people consider Raider's heavy into light flicker cancerous? I'm asking for a friend.
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>>175657306
zone flicker just so i can see roaches either drop their character or get fucked constantly because that's the only damage they can actually get through
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>>175657680
they're not even. You can easily block them if you don't try and parry every time.
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>>175657680
no, it'd be pretty hard to open someone up without it.
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>>175657680
The stunning top? No, because it's incredibly easy to predict and intended. When I play Lawbringer against Raider, that attack is a guaranteed light parry.
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>>175657680

thats literally in raider's move list and easy to react to and predict. not comparable at all
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>>175657793
god, was i playing you yesterday? every time i tried a LB would easily parry me and top heavy. i didnt catch on until like the very end for whatever reason
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>>175657856
Any decent player can parry 600ms lights super easily. I'd argue against a good player, the stunning tap isn't worth the risk at all. At best you'll get a single light out of out, at worst you'll eat massive damage, and it's stupidly easy to parry, even for a slow light.
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>>175657680
no, its easy to react to
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Do you guys think a wave survival mode could work in the game?
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why do people go inot 1v1 to throw people off cliffs?
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>>175658009
It would become essentially impossible eventually, and there's not enough stuff to each individual character to make grinding against waves of fodder fun. They'd have to add a lot of features to mix things up, like buying/unlocking gear with renown and what not. The big issue would be that it simply becomes unfeasible to deal with 3-4 enemies at once with how revenge works at the moment.
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>>175656973
It was clearly charged you fucking mong.
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>>175658071
sometimes it's not intentional
but why not throw them off? they made a mistake, punish them for it
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>Fight rep 1 conq as warden
>Top light into shoulder bash and side light
>Conq dodges into shield bash to avoid should but I feint it
>Dodge conqs shield bash into shoulderbash
>Conq leaves
and they said conqueror counters warden
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>>175658790
Shoulder*
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>>175658790
>and they said conqueror counters warden
Pretty much no one says this but you
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>>175659040
oh
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>108 Orochi and PK Travelling Together.
>Top Light, Side Light, Zone Flicker Spam Everywhere.
>Fear Itself and Bloodied Weapon.

Times I was glad I was host.
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Everyone should have 50/50 or they shouldt be at all
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>leveled Kensei to rep 10 only to find Berserker more fun in the end

shieeeeeett

Just wish Berserker top heavy finisher was an unblockable
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>>175658790
>dodge Conq's Shield Bash into Shoulderbash
>Conq leaves
Congrats, you fought a shit Conqueror that doesn't know Shoulderbash can do nothing to him. Second you see it pop you can roll away for safety, or just dash and Shield Bash instantly to punish. If you Shield Bash and the Warden does dash Shoulderbash, he's committing to an option that's not safe since Conqueror has time to dash out and Shield Bash again.
>>
>Queue Dominion.
>Match up against Group of 4 people with same name, same emblem.
>Match Starts.
>Teammate has left game.
>Teammate 2 has left game.
>Feel bad for team mate 3 but hope he does smart thing.
>Leave game.
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>>175659272
Reminds me of a group of Soulsfags that play Elimination and all have Google Chrome emblems. They're all Rep 20 with Shugouki, Lawbringer, and Warlord. They just cheese hardcore and when you call them faggots they say "LOL U MAD, WE LOVE THE SALT".
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>mfw thick blooc + debuff resistance warden when playing as Nobushi

This is stupid.
I'm fine with bleed doing literally no damage, but it should at least last the same amount of time so i get the bonus damage.
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>>175659452
I wish that every character had the option for thick blood. Bleed is a stupid effect. You dont think my big ass battle axe wouldn't just cut a limb right off or break your fucking Noobushi stick?
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>>175659407
I fucking literally got queued against same fags. Except this time there was legit 3+ minute loading Screen, and then this happens.
Based Ubi Matchmaking.
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>>175659407
Ik exactly who you're talking about. They advanced to a next level type of game play.
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>its another warden wins because you're out of stamina fight
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>>175659570
>realismfags in for honor
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>>175659634
Not really. They just know all the problems with the game and have no problem exploiting them. One of them enters tournaments and just uses the new flavor of the month exploit. He played Warlord up until Shugouki overtook the spot of cheesemaster, now he's probably doing unlock "tech" with Nobushi.
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>>175657002
>>175656920
>Play warden
>Use the SB but only selectively, don't spam the fuck out of it
>One day use it twice in a row by mistake
>Didn't took advantages of the second SB and let my opponent recover from it without any problems
>"I wish I could spam a vortex to win too!"
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>>175659957
nah ik, just joking. for my games they ran to one spot
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>>175659267
>Congrats, you fought a shit Conqueror that doesn't know Shoulderbash can do nothing to him
that's no longer the case
>>
>Get knocked within 2 metres of a ledge
>Magnets pull you off
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>>175660287
It still is. Using Shoulderbash against Conqueror is just asking to get hit. Especially since if it connects, Conqueror can block the followup light sometimes.
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>rep 2 roach
>play rep 0 warden
>beat him
>"if I swap to main you will suck"
>rematch
>I pick shug
>he has a rep 9 orochi
>ragequits in 3rd round

lmao, why do people skip to their mains when they lose?
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>>175660486
no longer the case, he can't full block it anymore
>sometimes
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whats the best stats to get on armor pieces other than revenge stats?

is execution hp regen worth?
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>>175660768
Not even full block, it just normally blocks it.
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>>175660845
Not really. In Dominion you'll want a faster execution, and fast executions don't give as much health in the first place. It's somewhat useful in Elimination, but chances are by the time you whittle down your turtle you'll have at least one other person on you, making a long execution nearly impossible.
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>>175660954
not a thing, warden messed up then
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>>175661036
>Longer executions heal more
Is this true?!?
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>>175660527
they dont want other people to think they suck, they cant just enjoy the game.

>They probably have low self-esteem
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>finally Rep 1 on Lawbro
Now I gotta figure out who I want to Rep next.
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>>175661505
Kensei/orochi
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>Wallsplat peacekeeper
>Recover fast enough to dodge demon embrace
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So why are people honor fagging in Dominion. I get ledged and our team mate just stood and was like okay. You could easily grab someone and ledge them, quickly but nope.
Then they got ledged themselves and were whining in chat, "But I didn't ledge you. You have no honor!"
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>>175661892

timed wrong
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What are some things that have happened in the game that made you realize you're improving?

>tfw feint a top heavy to bait a warden's crushing counterstrike top light, and then crushing counterstrike THAT top light myself.
>tfw beat a rep 30 PK twitch streamer with my rep 11 warden in a skirmish match. They got revenge 3 times during the fight but still lost.
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>just spent 14k steel on oro

fug

>>175661993

learned to spam sb and win
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>>175661993
>Play best character
>Beat other characters
>In 4v4

Wow. Soon you'll be ready to tackle the story mode on very normal
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>>175643351
Knights confirmed for modern "spiritual persons".
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>>175661245
yes
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>Tfw want to play aggressive conq but sorely limited by his low damage and bad stamina
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>>175662436
Just play Dom/Elim and Bash Light everyone for 25 damage.
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>>175633896

>paint on armor

Paint on armor was a real thing, and paint on armor is part of the game's canon.

Only in the 16th century irl did bare naked armor become a fashionable thing, without tabards and the like. And that was for a short period of time because armor was fazed out shorty after that.

Stop being ignorant and autistic.
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so are the new viking heros not coming out until after season 2?
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>>175661505
warlord is really fun
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>queue for duels
>get matched with some guy, win, rematch a bunch of times and win all of those too
>on the 5th or 6th match he alt-f4s after I won
feel kinda bad, lads.
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>>175662817
It just looks shit on knights
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>>175662436
Feint heavies into heavies and bashes, use zone attack cancel-if it gets parries you either eat a light or get the advantage back anyway, if it gets blocked it staggers so you get another bash->light. You can vary the timing of conscript's attrition after bash to hit people on reaction of they try to counter attack, this of course can lead to a heavy which can be feinted or let rip as necessary

Aggressive conq is actually pretty fun. His stamina is a complete joke tho.
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>muffled exasperated sigh in the background
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>>175663103
>feint
>conq

..how?
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>>175663257
All Guard
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>>175662926
start of season 3
think that highlander leak is legit?
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>>175663106
>not spinning him around for the side heavy

umm?
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>>175663390
idk, i want to believe. I'm pretty sure we're getting Pirates too.
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>>175663257
Full block cancel.
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>>175663381
oh shit. you can do that mid swing? i've just been getting all of my damage using the superior block property on heavy while fully charging it.
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Has the maintenance fixed offline battles?
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>>175663520
HOLY FUCK. i am going to be a wrecking machine from here on out.
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>>175663626
Don't expect to be. He's still shit with it.
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>>175661993
>Rep 30 PK twitch steamer
Was his name the same name as his twitch account and did it start with a z or something? I think I fought that guy, he is shit lol
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>>175663103
I mean, I try. It's just really heavy on the stamina so any momentum you get you can't keep for long and the damage isn't very good either, even off something like a light parry.
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>>175663676
Well that's why conq has the best passive guarding in the game, if he had all the stamina for offense and was an absolute brick wall on defense he'd be a bit good like
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>>175663663
i can do alright with him normally, this will help quite a bit.
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>>175663665

I forget, but he has a .tv at the end of his name.
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>>175663665
Zusawa or something. He was Rep 30 with her like a month ago. He's one of those delusional Peacekeepers that thinks they're being "honorable" by feinting with her.
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>tfw you think you're having friendly duels but the guy you're fighting is actually getting more and more heated and is only rematching you from some sick desire to get angrier because you both know he's not going to win
>tfw you send him a gg message because it was good times for you and he replies with an 8 paragraph cited MLA format essay about how much cock you suck

Apparently I had picked up some signals wrong when he was pinging 'Good Fight!'
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>>175662157
>warden best character
I remember when I used to call characters OP because I lost to them too
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TrU3ta1ent won't fucking shut up about adding more chip damage to the game. I hope they don't do this.
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>>175658071
Sometimes its to save them the humiliation of just tripping off the ledge
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>>175664209
Sorry, second best. I forgot about warlord
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>>175662157
>Warden
>Best character

oh im laffin
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>>175664257
>the chat
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>>175664319
i feel like the chat is the real gem in that webm. it tells a story all its own
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>>175664224
That won't really fix the turtle meta anyways. They need to buff guardbreaks and nerf guardbreak damage. Guardbreaks almost never work in neutral. Each character should just be able to soft feint out of heavies into guardbreaks.
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>Fight a guy named NO_HONOR_GANKER
>Asks me if I spam vortex because I was playing warden at the time
>Don't vortex him, don't feint or cancel into guardbreak
>Don't even chain shoulders
>"Ahaha, I knew it. Fucking spammers"
>I say I did not vortex you, but he leaves
>Find him in a duel a month later and vortex him as hard as possible
>He leaves and I leave and get another 2 duels with him which he leaves.
Has anyone else seen this guy?
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>Overwatch
>Any character with shove
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>>175664620
Few days ago I fought a berserker.
I flatted him 3-0 and each round I'd do something less because he was being a bitch about it.
First he'd complain I'd turtle, when he forced me to by spamming attacks and feints in every directions, so I started to play a lot more aggressive too despite trying to explain to him why I was playing defensively
Second round he complained about zone flicker when HE started to turtle like fuck, so I did not used zone anymore
Third round he complained I was using the vortex when I used the shoulderbash a grand time of once.

So even if I was only using fundamental and no special move, the guy would STILL find something to complain about.
The moral of this is, people are going to be bitches so don't give a fuck and do whatever you want.
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>>175664534
And from that day forward, no one ever threw a heavy again
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>>175664924
Yes, luckily learning that lesson has increased my enjoyment of For Honor immensely. Probably because I am a warden main, but still.
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>>175657002
Anytime I play as someone other than Kensei, it feels like a whole different game.

>Completely forget that Warlord has headbutt and forget to use it, more often feinting and fullblock heavy-ing
>Almost never follow up any successful top light into SB as Warden
>Forget to block-shove as LB
>Every character other than Kensei feels like they have super restrictive combos and I have to actually glance at the moveset to make sure I don't accidentally Light+Heavy as Valk or Light+Light as LB

And then I switch back to Ken and I feel so FREE
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>>175664924
It doesn't even have to be that complex. Usually it's just if you're being aggressive, you're "spamming" (which is funny, because if it's working, why stop?). If you're not constantly feinting or trying to attack, you're turtling. Can't win with these people.
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>>175665196
Centurion looks like he might have a free move set like kensei
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>>175663665
>>175663901
>>175663967

Zusuru.tv. I looked up his stream after playing him in Elim.

He had 3 viewers.
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Does anyone else ever feels like they know what to do in theory but when pitted against specific hero you just go dumb and die.
It's like pre-fight I've got it all planned, to feint at this moment, but when fight actually happens you just fuck up every single one of your plans because your reaction was "Too Slooooww"
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Alright Ive had enough of warden shoulder spam BS

time to go warlrod and camp ledges
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did they change the parry timing window, I swear I cant do it anymore
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>>175665529
Not really. I know before a fight starts if I'm gonna win or not. If it's a warden or warlord I have about an even chance depending on the stage, if it's a PK I have a slim chance if I can be bothered concentrating hard and playing patiently, if it's anyone else I win

It's extremely rare that my games end I'm a surprising result for me
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>mastering raiders exhaust 50/50
god this is so filthy good
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>>175664534

Why wouldn't it fix the turtle meta? You can't keep blocking for long and to turtle forever, you would have to parry every move perfectly. And since you aren't a bot, that won't work out
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>>175665298
I'm hoping. I've got the dosh stowed away for when he drops, going to have a lot of fun chop+bashing dudes.

I wasn't even that hype for him until I saw the cape.
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>>175665770
>do the 50/50, he falls for it
>top heavy, he gets up for some reason attacks
>parry, do it again
>he gets up, i zone and feint one more time
>he falls for it again
>top heavy him on the ground to kill him
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>>175665529

You are at the middle stage of getting good. Once you have the theory down in your mind, you drill yourself until that knowledge seeps into your subconscious and you no longer "think" about fighting while you fight.
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>>175665529
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AeeoEpmyb2Y

This is litterally you
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>>175665804
maybe if they just added chip damage to heavies, it would encourage people to attempt parries more and that would allow turtles to be opened up.

if lights get chip damage it's just going to encourage mindless assassin light spam.
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>>175665770

>Raiders trying to zone me while I'm out of stam
>I just dodge back lol.
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>>175666306
>Implying I don't just feint GB you after you do this once

I have fought your ilk before, and they died like the rest.
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>>175666306
that can work, but you'd be surprised how many people's minds go blank when they run out of stamina.

and like the other anon said, after you do that once I'm going to just do a lunging GB the next time.
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>>175665987
Hopefully yeah. I recently went on from, "Where the fuck are lights coming from REE" to, "I can consistently block nobushi lights and definitely can parry her dash lights."
Though I still suck very much in 1vX situations

>>175665995
Yes.

>>175666379 >>175666456
It's still a 50/50 that, but one ethat has never actually went in my favor. Most opponents I fight know I'm gonna feint so they just stay still and tech it. :^(
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>>175666379

If I have died to a raider it's usually because they are parry fiends. All you have to do is constantly backdodge when out of stam to avoid the zone 50/50
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>>175666809
>All you have to do is constantly backdodge when out of stam

Oh lord don't tell me you play PK, do you?
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>>175666537
>Most opponents I fight know I'm gonna feint so they just stay still and tech it. :^(
so if your opponent is conditioned to the feinting, you stop feinting it. even if they do parry you, they can't punish because they're winded.

most opponents are going to attempt to parry it at least once, though.
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>>175666991
>they can't punish because they're winded.

[LAUGHS IN BERSERKER]
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Why the fuck do orders not accumulate during game? Why does it only count if a game is complete? I am so fucking god damn sick of people leaving the fucking game and disconnecting everyone so i have to redo all the shit i just fucking did in the previous game.
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>>175667113
why, what can he do?
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>>175666809
Why are all raiders and nobus just turtling parry fisher? At least feinting fucks them up.
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>>175665642
They fucked up ping completely since that "huge stability patch". Attacks now faster because you recieving data with delay.
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>>175667409
Playing bad characters entitles you to be a turtle, didn't you know?
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>>175667409
you obviously haven't run into me. I like to do lights / heavy cancel into stun tap with a few of the thrust taunts mixed in to get my opponent worked up. then when they start attacking I parry/punish.
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>>175667285
Berserker always gets a heavy off his parries, even when exhausted. If he parries you, he can just exhausted heavy from whatever direction his guard is in and it'll clip you.

>>175667409
Because everything they can do is parrybait.
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>>175667285
Deflect gb into light or wall bangs for top heavys.
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>>175667601

L E G E N D A R Y

i do this myself as conq. really activates people's almonds when you taunt right in their faces
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Did I do well here? I feel like I've personally improved a bit in past 2-3 weeks.
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>Raider's wallsplat-knee does no damage
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>>175668586

your opponent was a trash man and you do the guard switching meme, but other than that you pretty much P'd on him so good job
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>>175667409

Well I'm not, so obviously not all of them are.
Almost the only parries I do were baited through a feinted ZA after a light. Until that one time were I decide not to feint and hope for the execution option to pop up.
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>>175668586
>stance dance

as a raider main you gotta stop that shit mayne
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>>175668667
of course not, if you combined that insane amount of stun with damage raider would just be unbeatable
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>>175668667
>Raider's knee to the face does no damage
>Every single one of Berserkers throws does damage

>Raider has a 90 damage exhaust punish that gives your enemy a free GB on you
>Berserker has a 96 damage exhaust punish that is easier to execute and is safe to perform

>Raider has stance change delay, no 500ms lights, and no armor on anything
>Berserker has no stance change delay, has 500ms lights, and gets armor on every second attack and his zones

I don't get it
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>>175669015
Yes but Raider has 20 More health compared to Berserker, and he can throw farther. :^)
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>>175669015

>raider has 2 carry throws and can't be GB'd after dodging and so has a solid skill only based MU vs warden and warlord
>zerk on the other hand has literally no winning match ups and is the worse assassin

wow. its almost like stance dance memeing and endless feints are actually useless vs skilled opponents
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>>175669356
Gotta wait for that Kappa build, mayne. Supposedly zerkers are unstoppable in that build.
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>>175662209
Clearly the early onset of Christian denominations.
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>>175664224

This. Even reddit is crying for more chip damage. This is going to kill the game even more and no one is realizing this.
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>>175650562
The artstyle was directed by Quentin Tarantino
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>>175669726
Ubisoft has said they have multiple steps they can take in order to ultimately bust the defensive meta. Increased chip damage is just one of them. I think a few of their other suggestions they're testing internally include weaker parries, being able to GB evasion rolls, and a couple other things that escape me.
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>>175669638

i dont play zerk, just an observation.

i dont want this new build either. sounds like a load of shit. if the game gets to a stage where bullshit cartoon/D&D characters like zerk and roach are top tier i'll just stop playing
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>subscribe to ubijew channel for centurion trailer
>they upload a new video
>excited as fuck
>its just the teasers from the stream.
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>Hervis Daubeny: “Hervis Daubeny. Blackstone for a single season, and then, he thought to turn away from us, to take from us. That would prove his undoing."
>Tower: “That fort had been controlled by 10 warlords in 10 years. Daubeny was just the most recent. He joined the Blackstone Legion, and then tried to leave us. That would not stand unpunished.”
>Holden Cross: “Holden Cross. My second in command, and my most stalwart ally. Holden is a practical man of limited ambition but of endless talent. We are fortunate to have him.”
>Distant Ruins: “Ashfeld. I was born here, out in the scrublands. 20 years ago, the Iron Legion had been on the verge of losing it to the Vikings entirely. Now, my Blackstone Legion had taken it back.”
>Repairs: “So much of warfare is about walls, gates, hills, doors. Every day, a battles are won and lost on the choice of battlefield alone.”
>Wooden Structure: “Almost every fortress in these lands was first built a millennium ago. We lay new construction on top of old and call it our own. We’re children, playing at empire.”
>Fresco Painting: “The fall of the last sanctuary in Ashfeld. A thousand year have passed since then. Our ancestors held out for six years against a hundred thousand, desperate, starving warriors, or so the story goes."
>Lion Statues: “The Iron Legion is made up of many smaller legions. The lion was the symbol of the Regal Legion. They were strong, once. Now they have fallen to Blackstone might.”
>Knight Statue: “The Iron Legion has a habit of mounting Warden statues in front of doors, but they are hypocrites. The oaths of a Warden reach far beyond what any common Legion warrior can live up to.”
>Overgrown Roots: “When we stop fighting against it, nature will always reassert itself. So it is with stone, so it is with plants, with animals, and so it is with people.
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>>175670454
Stream in 2 days. More shit then, guaranteed.

Probably gameplay of the new characters this steam, and a final S2 trailer next week thats gonna show gear and maps and shit.
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>>175670526
>Burning Cart: “Warriors rarely see the people their wars affect. The displaced, the murdered, the starving. I saw all that when I was younger. I never forgot the lesson.”
>Distant Fires: “This year’s Viking horde. When Mount Rust erupted, they lost the sun for months. Crops and animals died. They came south, raiding for supplies. They continued to raid Ashfeld yearly.”
>Eagle: “The Iron Legion traces its root to a much older culture. An ancient empire led by centurions, believed to be lost in the destruction. They weren't lost, I have met them.
>Battering Ram: “Machines of war. Many of them use plans that we do not fully understand. Techniques handed down through the generations that we have lost the theory for. They work just fine, though.”
>Crumbled Walls, “The sanctuary of Harrogate. The last remnants of the Iron Legion had held it, until the year that Warden came. After the battle they were too weak to hold it. The Blackstones had to take over. Pity.”
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>>175670225

hopefully these are the kinds of changes they make

>GB works on rolls
>attacks to the back do double damage and stagger
>assassins cant dodge away faster than ten other character can dash
>rounds reduced to 90 seconds, character with highest health wins on timeout
>pursuit gives a speed boost to the chasing character
>heavies do chip for grey health like a traditional fighting game
>blocking costs stamina for assassins
>parry and GB rewards balanced and reduced
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>>175670526
>He joined the Blackstone Legion, and then tried to leave us. That would not stand unpunished.”

This feels relevant for all the turncoats who jumped ship at the end of the season.
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>>175670660
>Skeleton Cage: “ In the West, punishments like the cage have been outlawed. In Ashfeld, however, we were less reluctant about using brutality to make a point.”
>Lava: “When lava cools, it can form a marvel, a black glass that can be sharper than the sharpest blade. High in the mountains, there is a block of obsidian that has been cut into a round table. It is there that the Blackstone Legion was first formed.”
>Geyser: “The geyser fields of Ashfeld were the Iron Legion had officially bent the knee to the Blackstones, and the Royals, and so many others. We chose that place for its history. Legends tell us that it was there that the ancient Viking lords had yielded Ashfeld to our people.”
>Neglected Outpost: “Iron Legionnaires are cattle. They fight when it’s convenient for them, and run away from any challenge. The Blackstone Legion was my solution to that problem.”
>Viking Camp: “When I took over the Blackstone Legion, the Vikings had permanent settlements in Ashfeld. Now those were all gone, and soon we would take the fight to them.”
>Angel Statue: “We seven leaders of the Blackstone Legion took demon names. It is both as a warning to others, and a reminder to ourselves. We are strong, and we must be sure of what we choose to do with that strength.”
>Knight Tomb: “ We all want to be remembered.”
>Tomb: “Once, there were fifteen of us in the Blackstone circle. Eight times, one of us claimed the title of “warlord.” Seven times, that warlord proved too weak, too noble, or too blind to lead us. I am the eighth. The others rest now in their tombs.”
>Ruined Church: “The children of Ashfeld claim to all follow the same God, but I have sat in their services, and listened to their hymns. They do not agree on the laws of their master, and most of them do not follow their own ideals.”
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>>175670818
>Totem: “So many of my people fear the decorations of our savage foes, but I have never feared the demons of my enemies. I am their demon.”
>Ancestral Statue: “The Vikings are ancient, as we are. The difference is they vanished for centuries, we never left. But any who doubt their claim to these lands need only look at the ruins their ancestors built for them.”
>Abandoned House: “Wherever we go, the peaceful life that is called “civilization” scatters. It is a social agreement that is so easily dissolved, fragile.”
>Viking Horn: “The Vikings have filled their mountains and valleys with horns and drums and signal fires. We were never going to slip into Valkenheim unnoticed. That is why I chose to enter through the front door.”
>Big Head: “The Cataclysm was not one event, it was many. Lands rose and fell. The sky rained fire, ash, and worse things. The seas rose and then retreated. It is a miracle that any of us are still here.”
>Bridge Launcher: “Our technology is what separates us from the Vikings, and with these, we would make the so-called ‘impassable defense’ of the gates of Valkenheim meaningless.”
>Broken Ballista: “The Vikings have raided every year for as long as I can remember. They sack, loot, burn. My village was destroyed by them, mine and hundreds of others. Now, we would turn the tables.”
>Apollyon 1: “I am Apollyon. I was a Warden once, now I have become something greater. I am the eighth warlord of the Blackstone Legion, the only one strong enough to survive, and through me, this land will see a new age.”
>Gates of Valkenheim: “Valkenheim, home of the invaders who call themselves Vikings. It had been forty years ago that Knights last crossed the threshold into that great valley. Whatever happened in there, we would certainly be remembered.”
>Vikings Statue 1: “The ancient kings of the Vikings were mighty. They sailed across the ocean, and when the seas froze, they were lost to history, and then, they came back.”
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>>175670960
NOTE: These are the only observables in the game not narrated by Apollyon. This is Mercy, the Peacekeeper.

>Vikings Statue 2: “The Viking tribes all had different customs. These looked to be Warborn offerings, probably for strength in war.”
>Blackstone Legion Corpses: “Holden should have never sent those scouts ahead. He should have sent me first. Why didn’t I say anything?”
>Docked Viking Boats: “They docked their boats there, so there was a path to the top. I was sure of it.”
>Hanging Body: “Soldiers cry and cringe and rage when they see their friends hang. Sometimes, I pretend to share in their grief. Other times, I just wish that I did.”
>Ancient Breached Drakar: “The volcano in Ashfeld gave Valkenheim two years of frozen rivers. We were there to take advantage of their disaster.”
>Massive Head Statue: “Like us, most of the Vikings don’t even know their own history. These are their ancestral lands, lost a millennium ago. They returned from across the sea and reclaimed them.”
>Closed Gate: “There had to be a better way inside than the front door. I had my pride to consider.”
>Longhouse 1: “Vikings love to feast. Maybe I could find a way to shut them in.”
>Elevator Machinery: “Their machinery was far beyond what I had expected to find. Since the last time I’d been through, they had uncovered a new source of lore, or perhaps just a very clever engineer.”
>Central Mechanism: “The machinery was well made, but I had a job to do. Too bad really.”
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>>175671104
>Trilithon: “The ancient name for these structures is ‘trilithon.’ I asked a Viking once what she thought they were for. She didn’t know, she said they’d just always been there.”
>Ruined Building: “The Vikings have always warred with themselves much more than with us. It is in their nature to feast on each other. That nature has been stolen from them.”
>Svengard Gate: “Svengard. The Vikings are so very careful to equitably distribute their food supplies. It all passes through Svengard, and in winter, most of it is stored there.”
>The Sea: “We knew at Svengard that within a day Viking ships would fill the harbor and their army would destroy us, but I intended to be long gone before that could happen.”
>Battering Ram 2: “We dragged our ram’s machinery across Valkenheim. We had to had to hack down half a forest in a fortnight to build it, but without it, we would’ve come all that way just to be slain at the front gate.”
>Gate: “We could have broken open that gate with a much smaller ram, but that would have taken time, time that the Vikings would have used to reinforce.”
>Apollyon 2: “I am Apollyon. I have come to instruct. For too long, the fearful prey among the Vikings have whispered their lies of peace. Now, that era ends.”
>A Nice House: “The fortress of Svengard was home to many of the wealthiest Viking clans. The merchant trades always produce such people. Now, they would have to fight for their food.”
>Gudmundr: “The legendary jarl, Gudmundr. In another time, he would’ve been a king, beloved by his people, the fiercest of warriors. Whoever faced him would either become another notch in that belt of his, or become legend.”
>Burning Silos: “We would leave survivors to tell the tale of what had been lost at Svengard, and when they heard, they would come looking for what was left.”

And those are the Knight campaign observables.
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>>175669638
details?
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>>175671532
Meme
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>>175671532
Ubisoft held their community workshop with several players a few weeks ago, where a bunch of pro players got to chat with the devs and play some advanced builds to try out upcoming characters and changes. As the rumor goes, there were two separate builds they had. The first build was the stable build, the one that's most similar to what we have now, where the players got to try out the new characters early (before they were finalized, as I understand it). The second build was the "Kappa build," where they implemented a bunch of bonkers changes to the overall system and mechanics that feel wildly different from our current stable builds; it was supposedly some of their attempts to bust the defensive meta. Most of the players there at the community meet apparently had way more fun with the Kappa build, and they had a few observations about it, such as Berserker being overpowered in it. There are no plans to make the Kappa build public.
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>>175671532

its just hearsay and bullshit at the minute but supposedly its an internal test build of the game where mashing wins

hopefully its never sees the light of day. FH is slow currently, sure, but the methodical pace and meta of the game is what really sets it apart from other medieval combat simulators for me. If it became like M&B, Chivalry, War of The Roses etc where you mash attacks and spin in circles while swinging and can attack while moving and all that stupid shit I'd drop it immediately desu.
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>>175671830
>>175671874
that's the thing, people think this would bust the defensive meta. and sure, it might, but then we'd have a light spamming assassin meta that would be even more cancerous.
>>
>want to cosplay blackstone
>all blackstone knights have skull emblems and engravings
>all those are ridiculously high rep to obtain.
>>
>Chip damage on heavies only.
>Heavy parries don't guarantee a GB, they just guarantee a light

Good or bad?
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>sharpen blade + fear itself
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>>175673283
>they just let you set it up
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2v1's are the best shit

>>175673428
yeah I dont know what the fuck they were doing
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>>175672424
I think this could work.
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Everytime I play female Berserker I want to lick her sidecut

I also want to lick female zerkers abs
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>>175673778
switch zerker with femraider and you got a deal
>>
How the fuck do I make Raider work?

I like how he looks and his emote spam is OP, but he's so fucking hard to use, goddamn
>>
awful quality but man this was hype as fuck
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>>175673778
I play fem zerk for her sweaty pits
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>>175674209
>Zone zone zone
>Revenge
>Zone zone zone
>Revenge
>Zone zone zone
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>>175674374

you forgot the 11 parries
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>>175673956
Turtle and parry everything.
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>>175674412
I wasn't aware parrying was a rare feat.
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>>175674463
Do I even get anything decent off a parry?
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>>175674518

its pretty hard to do in a 2v1 with 1 bar of hp left
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>>175674579
Light parrys get you free side heavys and top heavys sometimes. Heavy parry gets you a gb into zone or wallbang throw for a heavy in the direction your guard is in.
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>>175674374

What else is he suppossed to do on that situation?

Isn't zone suppossed to be used fighting multiple enemies?
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>>175674209
not bad
for an orochi
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>>175674590
DESU You kind of fucked up alot by going for third light and getting parried. Should've zoned instead or not do a third light at all.
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>>175674901
You take them one by one by focusing hits. To let them taste your might
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>>175674590
It's easier if anything. Pull off one parry and every attack within like 1 second of it is parried too. You don't even need to get the direction right if you parry an outside attack
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>>175675040
nigga what

what you just recommended is how you get one guy defense tanking everything while his friends wail on you.
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>>175675153
This.

You have to keep alternating targets and play defensively. Take the worse ones out 1st
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>bronze armor is the best looking material on warden
>get it before you even hit rep 1

Awww yeah

It's like gold, but you get it long before that and it looks less obnoxiously gaudy.
>>
>every nobushi I see has to spam Dodge attacks and zone cancel
>they still always lose cause nobushis just that bad.

Why do people play her?
>>
>>175675430
She has a really nice design and her animations are graceful
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>>175674903

what's the best anti gank hero?

I guess warlord with revenge headbutting everyone

>>175674943

Yeah I get spammy with top light in revenge so that the 2nd light will come out, bad habit

>>175675112

if you're lucky, not all those parry were auto parries, you still have to pick which attack is going to hit you first out of the 2 or 3 coming at you

>>175675286

this is the best option I find, block or parry shit til revenge, then switch up targets while you have it, gonna try working storm rush switches into my anti gank game
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>>175625383
Kensei. Bushi is pretty fun too, if not a bit weak right now.

As for kangz, you'd probably like Raider best
>>
>>175674901
A lot of his zones only ever were in the range of one guy. Also strangely they let him focus on one target unmolested for surprisingly long periods. This was a really passive gank, which is probably why they lost
>>
>>175675553
i got a boner for some reason
>>
>>175625383
if you're good at parries (which I assume a rep 7 law is) you'll be good at raider.

t. rep 12 LB that just started playing raider

I'm having a blast.
>>
>>175675553
This

I love everything about her wish she had better shoes I hate the samurais leather shit
>>
>>175675336

Silver and Black look good.
>>
>>175675669

well orochi only has 2 decent attacks even in 1v1 situations, why would that change in a gank?

Its not like random side lights are going to do any good
>>
>>175675336
Silver is better.
>Fucking chrome and shit
>Still get that vanilla knight aesthetic without being gaudy as shit
>>
>>175676072
Silver with no paint on metal master race reporting in.
>>
>>175676072
>>175675924
I will never not be pissed about material options for vikings and sams
> oh look my belt is more brown now
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>>175676195
you fuckin know it
>>
>>175675924
>>175676072
>black
Not really a fan, but suit yourself
>silver
I mean, it's cool, but I personally think bronze is better. I said that it's the best, not that it's the only good one (copper and silver are good too imo)
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>>175675430
She's pretty good though, you can just use heavies as your regular pokes and no one can land a meaningful punish if they parry it. There's a reason so many have won 1v1 tournaments.
>>
>>175676195
What about a bit of paint on one shoulder?
>>
>>175676276
Yeah kangs have really shit material options, odd considering how so many of the dev team are full blown we wuz.
>>
>>175676342
unless they deflect
>>
>>175675772
>>175675651

I'm leaning towards playing Raider, but just recently I tried warlord and I'm wondering who should I stick with. He's too broken
and I think I like it
>>
>>175676586
Deflects do get her but if they panic and try and do it in reaction and you fient they will eat nearly 40 damage off of a gb. Assassins are your only real worth as nobushi though, but if you exploit her unlocked zone you'll get them no problem.
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>>175676590
If you want effortless wins then warlord is the way to go for sure
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>>175676195
literally the best
>>
I wish I was autistic enough to keep a list of shitty people I run into. If I knew I was going to get cheesed the entire game, I would have picked a class that didn't require skill. There needs to be a giant "I'm a faggot" sign on these people so I know what I'm getting into.
>>
>>175676195
I like bronze more if I'm using red for my colour.
>>
>>175676195
the best warden aesthetic is Arcturcus helm with meme wings
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>>175676590
sooner or later they're going to nerf warlord. and I mean a real nerf, not the token headbutt nerf that we got.
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>>175676302

Silver and black can work if you have an eye for style, even gold can.
>>
Do we have any writefags here?
>>
>>175677078
What could they need further on Warlord without ruining his characterization as a heavy counterattack?
>>
>>175677238
I can write and draw. Why?
>>
>>175677238

Well I can writefag but no lewd
>>
>>175677238
I can draw
>>
>>175677248
I mean, the Lawbringer is also for "countering" iuf you go by his description and look at how he was when the game released
>>
>>175677238
what for?

I can write regular stuff pretty well. I'm not as good at lewd shit, but I can still do it.

Also, new thread when?
>>
>>175677248
Give him light attacks that are as slow as other heavy characters

Remove either lights having superior block or heavies having super armor

Make him not have one of the best zone attacks in the game

Make him not have the absolute best parry and GB rewards by (literally and figuratively) miles

Remove CGB from full block

Remove hyper armor on leaping top heavy into headbutt into light

Take your pick honestly
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>>175677456
have
you
considered
making
the
thread
you
fucking
freeloader
>>
>>175677572
I thought one of you guys was already going to make or was in the process of making it. I just copy/paste the shit in the OP, right?
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>>175654450
My guy atleast tried for 1 round and then started afk'ing. He left when the match was over but got requeued against him 2 times in a row.
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>>175677640
set thread title
add a meme edition if you feel like it
link to previous thread
copy and paste op
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>>175673778
fucking femzerk is so cute with this wolf ornament
>>
>fell for the hidden stance dodge meme.
>>
>>175678007
would you fall for the 'marry my warden' meme?
>>
>>175674209
gear stats were a mistake
>>
>>175677270
>>175677357
>>175677397
>>175677456
How bout we light up the general a bit
>>
>>175677768
k

Tried to post it, but for some reason sys.4chan.org is blocked at my workplace but regular four chin isn't. So I can post, but not start new threads. It's fucking weird.

Can one of you guys start it in my place? I tried, it just didn't work
>>
fuck you

>>175678427
>>175678427
>>175678427
>>175678427
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>>175654450
>this webm
can't even blame him, you're playing like complete scum
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Is euphoric_shadow someone I'm supposed to know?
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>>175678592
some retard that reddit and redditors here praise
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Is everyone OK with the defensive meta? I'm not. It's boring as fuck. I hate engaging someone only to have them do NOTHING.

Why is this OK?
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>>175673529
>Half the fight is you just spamming flicker
Come on
>>
>>175627038
Damn. I guess no one is safe from rage quits. Cayinator is still bro tier raider, though.
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