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Etrian Odyssey General

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EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS
>EO V Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/

>EOMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

>EO V Skill Simulator
http://waifusims.com/EOV/skillSim.html
https://jii.moe/EkvsTrdY-.html# (Class Skills)
https://jii.moe/VyvBiy6dW.html# (Race Skills)

>EO V item and quest translation list
http://pastebin.com/c4uzKptj (Item list)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oz2FGmL0QpE2-Qkb8zz-t_MP_WEpDo6gzlA29-wJIDw/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 (Quest list)
http://pastebin.com/8sJhutN7 (Conditional drops)

>EO V color editor.
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/
>EO V VA list
http://pastebin.com/gM4KaYjs

>EO V Game & DLC.cia link
https://mega.nz/#F!XkJiHBIb!vzL2CLjZZVA-yAGS7UZgdA

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>>175280241
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2ND FOR EOV REVEAL ANY FUCKING DAY NOW ITS GONNA HAPPEN JUST YOU FUCKING WAIT FAGGOTS
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>Faith isn't his pillar.
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>>175589552
Stop trying to get my hopes up
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>>175589684
Why would i need to get your hopes up for something thats guaranteed to happen?
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>>175589552
EOV is dead
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>>175589613
>Not calling the detestable name
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>>175589613
I would put my pillar into flatress
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>>175589552
Well, I am waiting. Have been waiting for forever.
Will wait longer even if the impossible happens - the life of a eurofag.
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>>175590157
>caring about region when CFW exists
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It just hurts to hope.
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>>175590671
Give in to despair
neVer eVer
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why is shisho cute bros?
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>>175591094
Literally who?
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>>175590885
We already have enough awful girls here, no need for worst girls from other franchises
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>have all the etrian games in the box
>except EOIV because I was dumb and got it from the eshop
>want to buy physical copy so that collection is complete
>can't transfer save from digital to physical game, only the other way around

Why
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>>175591165
literally get homebrew and use jksm, wow it was hard
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>>175591165
>caring about your safe file in eoiv
NG+ is shit in this game anyways. Get a physical copy and you have a second safe slot.
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>>175591161
rude desu
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>>175591161
Monokuma is best girl in any franchise.
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>>175591490
>robot bear
>girl
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What even makes you all think EOV will even be good. EOIV wasn't.
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>>175591649
Original director. No overworld. Just by those two facts it's going to be good.
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>>175591649
EOIV is one of the best
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>>175591649
Literally every EO game is a good game
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>>175591649
>EOIV wasn't.
nice shit taste 3bab
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>haven't played EOIV in two years
My team was in fourth stratum when I stopped playing.

Should I restart?
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>>175592145
yes, and stop being a pussy this time
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>>175591649
>EOIV wasn't.

Nice meme. Also EOV has been out for months now u dummy.
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>>175591649
EO5 is really good. The difficulty curve is a little off, with the second and fifth bosses being much harder than any of the others (may have just been my team though).
The balance is good, a contender for the best balance in any EO game. There are a couple of 'dud' classes, but everything can shine if you build your party for it correctly; I'm using a potato reaper (debuffer), and blazing through the post-game right now.
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>>175593265
Potato Reaper sounds completely horrible.
Good to hear it actually works.
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>>175594059
Potato anything is always greatest
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>>175594059
I'm purely using it for debuffs and heals, I've invested no points in damage skills. She's just supporting a gimmick build I've got setup with 2 necromancers, a Dragoon and a Cestus.
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>>175594519
remove pedos
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>>175594612
Shows how versatily some of these classes can be.
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>>175590885
NeVer eVer Lol
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>>175594519
Potatoes are too fat please remove them.
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>>175594757
We can't just remove the entire fan base anon! Then only the fujoshit gays will be left. :-/
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>>175596024
Aren't you claps supposed to like fat
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Wanting to fuck lolis doesn't make you a pedo just like wanting to suck futa dick doesn't make you gay. This is common knowledge.
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>>175597332
>self-deception 101
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>>175597332
i don't want to fuck lolis i just want to cherish and protect them
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>>175597548
fucking disgusting
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>>175597332
>wanting to fuck lolis
You don't deserver fluffymaster
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>>175597748
Yes because she's mine
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Do you think this will be censored/changed when/if they localize the game?
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>>175598357
They will remove the entire EOV game and give up EOMD2 instead.
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>>175598357
What is there to censor?
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>>175598357
They'd just put her in latex beneath the hoodie.

which is lewder?
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>>175598357

zip
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>Panic
>enemy may attack itself/its allies
>can't use skills

>Paralyze
>enemy may not move
>can still use skills

Why ever use paralysis?
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>>175599108
Latex bodysuits are my fetish, but this change would still upset me.
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19 days left until EO3U announcement.
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>>175599990
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GUYS EOV WAS JUST ANNOUCNED CHECK ATLUS TWITTER OMG
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>>175600479
Ok kiddo
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>>175600412
That's the stuff.
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>>175599805
Conditionals
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EOU's and EO2U's obsession with putting shortcuts everywhere is retarded.
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>EOU2 Ronins have problems dealing damage
How does that happen? I would think that's the one thing they should do right.
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>>175601784
Shit numbers
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>>175599805
Paralysis prevents the enemy from evading. Not sure if panic has the same effect in mainline titles.
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>>175602139
It doesn't prevent, just sharply reduces.
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>>175601936
Exactly how does a perfectly optimized Peerless Combo Ronin build with Force Charge and everything compare to other damage dealers exactly by end-game?
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Someone explain me the grimoice chance meme, the skills the character and the enemies used during the chance are the ones that will be in the grimoire? What about passives?
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EO2U > EO3 > EOV > EOU > EO4

This is the objectively correct order, right?
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>>175603441
2U > V > U > 4 > 3
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>>175603441
There is no objectivity in opinions you fuckhead
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>>175603441
EO3 is a shit game, and anybody who puts it high in their listing of EO games has shit taste.
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>>175603441
EOV = EO2U > EO3 = EO4 > EO2 > EO1 > EOU
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>>175603561
>>175603749
>le 3 is shit meme

Man o man contrarians are so fucking cool lol
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>>175603975
3 was great for its time but its outdated and is in need for an overhaul.
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>>175603975
>If you don't like shit balance, pacing and stratum design you're just being contrarian!
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>>175603975
>a bloo bloo someone doesn't like a thing I like
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>>175603975
it's just one faggot.
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Newfag here, I thought that 3 was supposed to be the best starting point in the series. Now I'm learning that its actually shit. What am I supposed to do now?
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>>175604890
3 is the best of the DS era

EOU2 is the best of the 3DS era

That's all you need to know
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>>175604890
Play a better game
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>>175604890
3 was the best starting point because its the most refined DS game. The new best starting point is IV or U1.
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>>175604998
2>3>1
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>>175604806
>more than one person can't possibly dislike a game that I personally like!

wow 3babies sure are delusional huh
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>>175605398
If you stopped posting "3babies" maybe you wouldn't be so easy to spot.
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>>175605591
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>>175605591
>>175605826

3baby BTFO lmao
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>>175605962
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>>175605826
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>>175606229
I was saying you BTFO'd the guy above you. Are you retarded?

We were this close in making the 3babies look so stupid that none of them would have the courage to show their faces around here for the rest of time, and you just had to go and fuck it up. Kill yourself retard and never post here again.
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>>175606557
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I'm wiling to bet 100 bucks that the people hating on EO3 started with EO4.
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>>175607089
i started with u1 and i hate eo4 because its not untold4
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>>175607089
I bet no one actually hates eo3, they just like the reaction they get.
Just like nenehaters
and gayhaters
and literally anyone else in this general
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Please god let me meet him.
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>>175607482
Everyone's opinions are actually the same here. Sometimes we just pretend to like EO3 so there are things to talk about
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>>175603928
>EOU last, even after EO1

why
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>>175603928
EOV=EO2U>EO2>EO4>EOU>EO3>EO1
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>>175599805
Because inflicting Panic after/before inflicting paralysis is way more likely than inflicting Panic twice in a row.
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Lets settle this once and for all.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12875686
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>>175607695
I'm angry. Angry about grimoires.

More accurately it would be on par with or slightly above EO1, but probably not EO2. I wouldn't say any of the games are bad, or anything. The rankings are fairly close, so it's a bit of a tough call.
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>>175608073
>Strawpoll
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>>175608073
>Settle this
please read >>175603576 again.
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>>175607678
I pretend to like EO3 so that by the time EO3U is confirmed I'll have convinced myself that I'm very excited for it.
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>>175608073
Where are the separate polls for best DS and 3DS games?
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>>175608597
Because EO3 is the best EO game
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>EOU1 10f
>2 towering ooze encounters

what the fuck do I even do

It puts my entire team asleep/poisoned, and takes forever to kill due to physical resistances and self heals

wat do
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>>175608845
Accessories
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>>175608951
On everyone? It would cost a ton. Even then, if I don't get poisoned, I get sleeped and vice-versa.
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>>175609290
>>175608951
And I just got wiped after a fuckton of time there due to a blindside with a rare breed.

Fuck this, this game isn't balanced at all.
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>everything online says get immunize, defender, relaxing, and bravery

But that's four buffs
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I like how weapon skills in EOV are actually exetremely helpful.
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>>175608073
How is EO3 winning right now?

What is it that makes it the best?
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>>175610569
It was their first EO game :^)
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>>175610569
It has many best girls.
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>>175610171
axe defender if eo1.
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>>175610569
>best class designs
>most interesting class mechanics
>unbalanced subclass system leads to a huge amount of fun combinations
>best stratum aesthetics
>best music
>best town(s)
>best npcs
>sailing is fun
>most memorable superboss
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>>175607605
no more gays
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>>175610569
unique classes
subclassing
tropical vibe
"fun" vibe music
completely optional yet beneficial seamap
partially may also be "first game" factor
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>>175610569
voting multiple times from proxies, don't forget you're posting on crippling autism: the website
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>>175611079
This.

There's no way that 5 entire people on the internet think that EO3 is the best. It just can't be happening.
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>>175611079
Imagine being this mad.
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>>175611079
>proxies
There are FIVE votes for EO3. You don't even need to manipulate anything to get that with such an insufficient sample size.
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Reminder that the BEST Etrian Odyssey game is your favorite
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>>175611440
you know it
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Let's boost it!
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>>175612121
No
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Why did Himukai use Ricky's face instead of the actual EO2 gunner's face?
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>>175612758
japanese games
copypasted over 1000 times
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>>175612758
I'm not seeing it
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>>175608845
Kill them before they poisoned/asleep you
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>>175612758
cuz ricky must be everywhere
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>>175612758
>he doesn't know

captcha: more virgen
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>>175610569
Its the game with the loudest fans?
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>>175614373
Yes
Also the most annoying ones
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>>175614373
No actually that would be EO2U seeing as how its winning the poll :^)
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>>175612758
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>>175603162
It gets shit on, just with the solitary fact that their force boost does fuck all for damage, while every other damage dealer has at the very least a 1.5x force boost. But hey I mean, at least its not survivalist, even though they can do some crazy chaser shit.
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>hexer and ronin suck in EO1

Are they better in EO2
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>>175614987
In 2 they are OP, in 2U only hexer is good
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>>175614987
They're both part of the cookie cutter team in EO2. I'll let you figure out the rest from there.
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Is EOU1 as hard as the original

>quests giving EXP
>random infinite requests giving consumables and EXP
>grimoires
>these strong effects from the guildkeeper

etc
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>>175615270
>expert
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>>175615362
Expert is the same difficulty as EO1-3 no?
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>>175614987
Ronins in EO1 don't suck though. If you're willing to grind them up they make pretty good damage dealers with Midareba spam.
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>>175615434
No,
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>>175615270
>Immunize
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How do you unlock the final Genetta quest? I've done literally every quest on the list and it hasn't shown up.
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>>175615270
1 and 2 facts are well, try-harding isn't a tough challenge but an annoying matter, I dunno what you mean with the grimoire system but I hate it (I spend 3 months to farming alchemist's analysis skill and never got obtained).
I agree with the last fact, full HP and regenerate HP and SP every turn is very OP.
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>>175616434
封印扉の鍵を持っている
27F到達
うっかりジェネッタクリア
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>>175615613
just use a surv
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>>175618358
Why not both?
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>>175617527
Where's the key gotten?
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>>175620231
From a treasure chest I think.
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>>175622578
In hot competition with NEW Everybody's Golf.
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>>175622578
>The Great Ace Attorney... 2
soooo about localizing the first one
please
damn it I hate it when japan does this
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What if EO is over

What if EOV is the last one and we never get it
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>>175622578
>EOMD2 will come out in japan before V comes out in English
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>>175629287
EOV is in the same predicament P2PEP was. Months and months later everyone is like "don't worry, all the others were localized, this one will too" and to this day still I think Atlus never directly said it wasn't coming
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Why do people hate on EO4's overworld system so much?
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>>175630540
It's barebones and simple while the series is known for depth
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Thoughts?
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>>175630902

Needs more Teach.
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>>175630902
shit monk, no teach
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>>175630902
Better than this abomination.
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>>175630902
Still wondering if kenkaku is a best girl or not.
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>>175630902
Actually nice cover portrait for kenkaku.
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What level should I be to beat the 2th stratum boss in EOU expert?
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Hi, I'm the best EO game of all time, as voted by the Etrian Odyssey general on 4chan.org.
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>>175632362
It's because of the pirates, specifically *scruffy right there.

(*The scruffy pirate is the only male character that isn't a trap that actually has lewds. True fact!)

Plus it's the only game in the franchise that has plushies. (It's been 6/7 years. They aren't gonna make any new ones.)
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>>175632362
You are absolutely correct. EO III is the best in the series.
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>>175632362
middleschoolers flashcart dungeon crawler
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>>175633139
why project so hard
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>>175632362
Damn right
I'm gonna replay the fuck out of EO3 after I beat Ur-Child in EO2U. This time with Princess/Farmer
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>>175632246
Mid 20s.

>>175632362
Hi! Nice to meet you.

You're a pretty nice game, lots of nice music and everything. But the fact that your stratums are so short, your bosses are largely forgettable, your gameplay is mediocre with the sea quests being dumb, and your classes are ridiculously unbalanced makes me realize how many underage newfags we have running around that are trying too hard to look mature and cool by disliking newer games. Nothing against you, of course. But you are easily the worst game in the franchise.
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>>175630902
>only shit characters on the cover
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>>175637003
>worst game
That's eo2u though
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>>175637003
>realize how many underage newfags we have running around that are trying too hard to look mature and cool by disliking newer games.

>25 years old
>started with EO1
>played all games on release day from EO2 on
>love them all
>love the newer games
>still think EO3 is the best and my personal favorite

Why are you so bothered by people liking EO3? Just like what you like and let other people like what they like
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B..But.... If everyone says that 3 is bad and the newer games are bad too.... Which one am I supposed to like!? \(´;Д;`)/
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>>175637872
EO2U is good and anyone saying otherwise is just a bandwagoning meme machine.

But 2 is the best.
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>>175632892
>That party
Where's the damage?
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Can't you just like your games in peace? Why do EO3 fans need to behave like this?
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>>175638343
>not liking a pattern borefest makes you a meme machine
>>175638772
Not there
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>>175638887
Like what? All I see is people hating on EO3 and its fans.
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>>175638772
Ailments.
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>EO5 is back with the shitty "x mastery" skillpoint sink skills

why

>is also back with every skill needlessly having a 10 point cap

WHY
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>>175641090
>waaaah they took away the babbified mechanics 4 had
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>>175641486
>babbified

really
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Which level for Cernunnos in EOU?
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Is it possible to one shot Dryad within 3 turns with a Dragoon?
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>>175603050
Afaik paralysis prevents evading if and only if it eats the turn of the enemy.
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>>175643240
25.
(number of stratum)*10 + 5 is usually a good level to aim for in order to fight a stratum boss.
Unless it's the post-game of course.
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>>175599805
Accumulated resistances as well as panic having generally lower inflictions chances (both on your skill and on the enemy).
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>>175603265
Afaik in EOU it's a skill randomly pulled from enemy skills, passives of the character and the active skill the character uses on the turn of the Chance.
If you use no skill and the enemy has no skill you always get a passive.

EO2U has seperate Grimoire chances for actives, passives and enemy skills and a Premium Chance that works like the one from EOU but gives better results (higher levels).
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Is EOU2 the perfect game? After many tries in many things, it feels like they perfected everything.

Name a flaw, you can't,
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>>175645350
not enough brown girls
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>>175645350
>bloated HP
>patterns fucking everywhere
>stacking on grimoires and still too much rng
>godawful story
>shit stratums, 3 in partucular
>scylla
>autistic shills still pretending their pattern simulator is anywhere even close to good
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Is scapegoating a protector a decent strategy in untold 2?
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>>175645350
see the FOE? here, look at the FOE. this is his gimmick, in case you missed it.
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>>175646521
>using protector in untold 2
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>>175632362
>Sample size: literally nothing
>as voted by 4chan
I don't think this means anything.
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>>175646678
Well i cant equip collars on lolis now can i?
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>>175637872
>Not having opinions of your own
What? Why?
Don't just follow the mass you idiot
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>>175646678
Why not?
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>>175646807
Stop giving attention to dumb 3babies
>>175646865
You can equip handcuffs on yourself pedo
>>175646953
Because beast is better
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>>175647005
>still being this mad
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>>175647005
beast doesn't get sentinel guard 20
it's easy enough to throw hit-taker on your protector
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17 more days.
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>>175645350
I like EO2U very much but it definitely has some flaws especially coming so late in the series.

First, lack of Portraits.
EOIII and EOIV gave us recolors for all portraits and I don't see why the Untolds could not have done the same. Even with the portrait DLC you still only have four characters per class (except for Sovereign) to chose from just in different stances.
Also Beasts and Highlander don't get any additional portraits.

Boss design is pretts repetitive.
You can hate or like the overreliance on patterns but the summons are just annoying - mainly because they are not something you can deal with as you wish since they are a "you lose" condition.
Doubling Flame Demons elemental blast, binding your legs, overclocking dance while also exploding and blasting your entire team with quickly rising elemental damage - these things need to be taken out fast.
Which makes a lot of classes and party compositions no longer viable.
Have two single target melee characters and a Gunner for your damage? Good luck getting rid of backline summons before you die.

Also they had a strange way to work around the huge HP pools.
A lot of HP means long fights and accumulated resistances mean binds and ailments become less and less useful (especially since EO2U's bosses seem to have a lot of immunities).
So instead of lowering HP pools they boosted damage by classes relying on binds and ailments - Dark Hunter and War Magus.
So now controlling your enemy is the single best way to deal damage outside fo feeding Fafnir steroids.

And the high damage average of Fafnir, Dark Hunter and War Magus makes other classes pale an comparison. Ronin, Landsknecht, Highlander and Survivalist damage is not bad (even though Survivalist needs the help of Affection Collar or Power Gel) but they are completely outshined by the characters that rip through massive HP pools like they are made of paper.
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>>175646521
Not really.
You would use two characters to do the work of one character since Scapegoat is only useful at 20 when it redirects 4 instances of damage.
If you want your Protector to Scapgoat himself use Hit-Taker instead.

Generally using Front Guard and the Walls should be enough for your Protector to reduce the damage to manageable levels.
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>>175647185
>sentinel guard
nice meme skill
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Why didn't they use this for the FOE theme?
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>>175647789
>FM
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>>175647789
That's not a good theme. Very forgettable
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>>175630902
Way better than the previous nightmarish titan shit >>175631395 Chibis also look cuter.
Also better than Untold covers.
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>>175649427
What's wrong with it? Sure, It doesn't look like Himukai's style, but it's a happy anime girl, you people like those, right?
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>>175649546
Only things not wrong there are runemaster and hexer
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>>175641090
They have never gone away. And just like in EO4, this time they aren't mandatory either.
Skills are bloated again because there are no subclasses to steal SP away.

>>175641486
Except they didn't, you baby.
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>>175649546
The heads in the EMD cover have almost normal anime proportions. Only the nose it telling that the other adventurers are supposed to be chibi - Runemaster and Hexer specifially look completely normal for an anime style character.
So you have giant Teach and normal sized everyone else.

On EMD2 the heads of the other new classes clearly mark them as chibis so you have a normal character and chibis floating around which works way better.
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>>175649609
>>175649752
Ah I see it now.
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>>175649752
>>175649820
Though, they are still about 2-3 head lengths high, that's basically chibi, ain't it?
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>>175647275
>Good luck getting rid of backline summons before you die
Does any boss but Scylla with her gazillion tentacles do this
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>>175649919
Yes if you're not using op shit or underleveled
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>>175649546
Because Teach's face alone with that gigantic mouth looks creepy as hell.
Chibis try too hard to emulate 3D models that aren't all that cute.
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>>175650032
Yeah, I see the 3d models
Why couldn't they just have gotten Himukai to do the cover anyway?
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>>175650025
Which one? As far as I remember, dragons, Overlord, Flame Demon, Demi-Fafnir and Yggdrasil Core all put summons on the same line as themselves.
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>>175650117
Himukai is a meme
>>175650126
Overmeme only puts core in the same line, satellites are backrow
Pretty sure demon can put the jelly in backline when it spawns multiple
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>>175649919
Flame Demon summons three sets of cubes:
1. one in the front
2. two in the front
3. two in the back
I believe every 25% of her HP. So when the last set comes up you either need to rush though 25% of her HP or deal with backline enemies.

Overlords Satelites are in teh backline. They explode for massive damage whenever dance is used - no matter if it is the Core or non-Core Dance.
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>>175652287
>implying your puny knife can do anything to protector
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>>175652287
>>175652367
Too much VIT, it barely scratches her.
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>>175652531
>tfw you'll never stab browntress with your meat knife
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>>175652629
>browntress
What?
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Why are Dragoons the best class?
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>>175652813
dumb neneposter
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>>175652951
You're making no sense
Am I being juked?
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>>175652629
>-tress
That's a Protector, you heathen.
Her usualy nickname is Peach but you may be forgiven for not knowing every stupid name the EO community comes up with for portraits.
But miss-classing someone is an unvorgivable sin.

Also the only brown Fortress is pic related and this wannabe-Fafnir looking whimp can stay away as far from my meat cleaver as possible.
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>>175653342
Both are sluts with a shield so not like such a little mistake matters
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>>175653342
>But miss-classing someone is an unvorgivable sin
To be fair, it's easier to mistake when EMD when and picked protector but gave them fortress' skillset.
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>>175653501
Same for Landknecht - uses EO and EOII portraits, has Links and Breakers from EOIV.
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>>175653764
Uh... I'm pretty sure this isn't an EO1 portrait.
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>>175653764
Why would you use these if bandana is there?
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>>175653902
That waist to hip ratio.
I know it's distorted by her pose but - damn.
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>>175654150
Himukai is a meme
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>>175653902
I want to marry bandana schneckt
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>>175654270
That's not Himukai.
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>>175654679
not happening
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>>175654679
I want to blow my nose in her bandana.
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>>175655252
>user was linked for this post
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I want to tickle the Etrians
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>>175656561
awful fetish
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>>175656654
>fetish
I'm don't want it for sexual gratification you pervert
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>>175656802
I*
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>>175656802
nice delusions
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>>175655252
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>>175656950
Is she training her mouth to increase cum holding capacity
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>>175656950
Is she pouting or eating something hard or chewy?
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Pet the dog
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>>175659081
cute
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>>175652949
It really bothers me how you can't see levels in battles anymore.
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>>175660694
literally autism
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>>175630902
Her design improves when you cna't see the skimpy bikini.
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>eo not popular enough to find cosplay outfits for it
>attempted to replicate RAquna's jean shorts outfit for sexdoll
>failed
>just have a pile of ruined jean pants and tops
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>>175661746
good, cosplayers are literal cancer
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>>175630902
With all of those EO3 classes are they going to announce U3?
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>>175663509
No more games
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>>175663509
Nope. They used them in order to troll people.
Intro had water - everyone thought EO3U.
City did not like Armoroad but was next to water - everyone at least hoped for EO3U.
The first class picture was a new class, Monk, Farmer, Buccaneer (and less visible Alchemist) - everyone really thought EO3U.
But it was EMD2.

That's how you get hopes up and crush them to generate buzz on social media.

There will never be an EO3U, there will never be an EOVI. The series is dead.
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>>175663580
Turn 2:
>whoosh
NO MORE GAMES!
>guitar start playing
Oh shit, forgot to switch Bertrand back into the front row.
>select switch command
>transformation and music instantly end

Fafnir is so sensitive about people behind him moving. Little scaredy cat.
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>>175664679
>moving Bertrand to back row
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>>175664806
front guard gives no shits about what row the protector is in
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>>175664973
And there's zero reason to put Arianna or Flavio in front or not have 3 characters in frontline
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>>175665192
attack orders hitting everyone with changing rows every god damn fight.
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>>175665447
Orders are not dances, they are targeted
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>>175664806
>>175664973
He is in the back row for turn one so Attack Order hits Fafnir, Chloe and Arianna - it's faster to move him than to move both Fafnir and Chloe.
He gets moved back into the front to get hit more often.
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>>175665750
so? a row is a row.
>faf, bert, chloe
>order front row
>bert does not benefit from attack order
>arianna and flavio do not get attack order

Meanwhile I had Gunner Flavio, Link Order Arianna, Faf in the front row and everyone was having a gay old time benefitting from attack order and Front Guard 10, along with shit like Point Blank.
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>>175665931
>>175666092
>buffing arianna the buffbot
what even for
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>>175666187
>link order arianna
You know Attack Order effects elemental damage, right?
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>>175666249
Like it deals any damage worth mentioning
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>>175666328
Oh they do. dont forget the ELM ATK Up grimoire when you go to try this later.
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>>175666187
>>175666328
Link Order is extremely strong.
It has an awful damage multiplier but that doesn't matter because it copies 40% of the attack that activates it and 50% at 20.
So you get an extra 50% Fafnir damage with a little cherry on top that gets amplified one additional time by Attack Order.
Not to mention Link Order II just melts summons thanks to copying Fafnirs damage.

The only buff Arianna needs to use is attack Order. Prevent Order gets outclassed by Barrier and Protect Order is not needed because Vampire heals enough.
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>>175660694
It's not a useful information in any way.
You don't see monster levels so there is no way to compare them anyways.
And if you have uneven XP you will be reminded about that once you finish the battle.
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>>175667881
It's only a factor when you're looking at screens or video of someone else playing, but it can be seen as useful in those situations.
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I want to lewd this bunny innkeeper.
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>>175668440
I'll give you that.
Thankfully most players that showcase their strats - instead of just doing a video LP - usually show their builds and stats beforehand so you can see the levels there.
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>>175668713
Do it and post your pics here.
At worst we will have something to laugh at.
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>>175668713
No you don't
>these names
kys anytime
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>>175668713
>lmao4刀
>start of the game

You have ambition, I like it.
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>>175668713
"Hi" is such a descriptive name - what class is she?
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>>175670757
>she
>not using only males in your party
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>>175668881
It dosen't look like there's much art of her, this might be difficult.

>>175670757
Dragoon. Typically I spend half an hour struggling to think of good names. That was not the case here. They'll get renamed if I continue.

EO5 seems great, even if I can't really understand most of it. The only annoying thing is the pop-in. It was great to see the 3DS games render everything at once, but not here.
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>>175668713
I'm going to cosplay that bunny.
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18 more days until EO3U reveal
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>>175671624
I heard people got used to the pop-in.

So Hi is your Dragoon? I would have thought Teach would fill that role. So what is she instead?
"lewd" is probably Necromancer and "potato" should be a Shaman to buff your Masurao.
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>>175668713
Did you import a Japanese 3DS to play that or is there some wizardry that allows a 3DS to play foreign games?
>>175672391
EOIII was my first game so I'd be bummed out like hell if its remake didn't get a western release.
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>>175672391
n3v3r 3v3r
...

Doesn't look as nice as neVer eVer so maybe 3U will actually happen.
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>>175672707
>he doesn't know
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>>175672863
I really do not know and am still confused since I read somewhere that the New 3DS thing wasn't region locked a while back but apparently it is? Why is region locking even a thing fuck I'd gladly import EOV but importing a Japanese 3DS would be a pain in the ass.
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>>175671624
>>175672607

You get used to the pop-in, yes.
But the sixth stratum is fucking awful for pop-in. It genuinely makes it difficult to map since:
The whole startum is a series of floating platforms, with no walls seperating them. There could be a corner on that path that looks like a straight line, or even another platform alongside your own and you won't see it.
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>>175672975
What rock do you live under? I'd like to rent it for some peace and quiet.
3DS hacking and piracy is so rampant and cheap that even normalfags know about it.
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>>175673091
>have to do illegal shit to play EOV
nuh uh no way fuck that shit man
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>>175673191
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>>175672707
Lewd is the leggy Warlock and Teach a Fencer. I was dissapointed to discover that all the DLC portraits are for humans, Teach and Mediko do look cool in the new art style though. Somewhat bizzarly, any race can select them too.

>>175672707
I'm going to say yes because i think EO is a series worth buying and supporting. Region locking is on a per-game basis. I have no idea if EOV is locked.
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>>175672975
>>175673191
Just buy a Japanese 3DS. I did, and I'm so glad I did. EOV is fucking great. And what's more, I plan to import more games so I don't have to wait foreVer for localisation, and it's good practice for my moonspeak.
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>>175673375
google isn't turning up if it's region locked or not sheeeeeeeit
>>175673249
fuck you I want to support them even if they don't give a shit if I can read
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>>175671327
Hello fujoshit
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>>175673682
Homebrew allows you to play carts from any region my dude. You don't have to pirate anything.

Also why not just pirate the game and then buy a copy and put it on the shelf or something?
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>>175673375
>Lewd is the leggy Warlock
The one with the slightly bigger boobs or the one with the slightly smaller boobs?
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>>175673375
>>175673682
Pretty sure all 3DS games are region locked, or rather, the 3DS itself is region locked.
Tested with my copy of EOV anyway, and it doesn't work in my EU 3DS
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>>175674145
Aren't the core pokémon games not locked? Or at least their IDs seems to be identical.
Although the reason for that wouldn't be as altruistic as it sounds.
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>>175673682
It should be noted that while some out of region games work, dlc and updates are not cross-region and never work on foreign systems, even if their region matches the game. It's somewhat annoying to get working even on CFW.

Best option is to either buy a Japanese copy for collection's sake and hack your 3ds, or wait for neVer eVer.
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>>175673191
You don't have to do illegal shit, you just have to gain the ability to do illegal shit to also gain the region unlock.
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>>175673375
So you are going for 4kat but not for Sanzu?
Interesting.
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So I just wrapped up Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey and I've still got a hankering for dungeon crawling so I'm at the second stratum in EO III. Now I like it and all but I can't stop wondering if I should just hop on over to EO IV. Should I finish III first or get back to it later if I'm not burnt out after IV?
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>>175675694
IV>III
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>>175675803
Be careful, all 5 people in the internet who think eo3 is the best will come for your head
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>>175675694
EOIV has some elements that are not pure dungeon crawling such as an overworld and side dungeons. Also it only has three floors for the main dungeons.

I prefer it over EOIII as it is technically more sound and way, way better balanced - but it's also the easiest in the series (unless you only run cheese parties in the DS games).
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>>175675694
Both are great. 4 is much easier, but has better balance and QoL features.
It can be hard to return to the DS titles, so maybe you should keep going with 3 if you're enjoying it.
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How is the postgame of EMD?
I'm trying to reach the end of Mountain Cleft and I'm already getting inmensely annoyed by room-wide paralysis, the game not letting me take control of other characters in that state, hipnosis owls literally flying in from nowhere and monsters in hallways, all in combination to make my life miserable.
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>>175675694
Finish what you started, then move on. You should always play a series in release order
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>>175676287
Ain't nobody got time for that, especially in a series where the story isn't continuous
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>>175676280
Welcome to MD
It's even an easy MD game, in actual one you will get your ass raped even harder
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>want to replay EOIII on a fresh save with all the quests etc.
>don't want to delete my 100% clear save because I'm deeply attached to my guild

Whyyyy can't they have multiple save slots
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>>175676501
It's not that it's hard, just annoying. Lots of returning to town because of RNG, lots of waiting for paralysis to run out, lots of stalling with walls of apllette-swapped enemies.
And lots of missing hits. Oh god, I hadn't missed so much since EO3.
It's like the game is trying to stall me in the same place wasting resources for... whatever reason, since it's not like it's short on content either.
I know pokémon is at the bottom when it comes to videogame difficulty but at least its MD variant didn't go out of its way to be annoying and unwelcoming toward those who aren't familiarized and accepting of MD's vices.
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>>175676619
Use TWL Save Tool to backup your 100% save.
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>>175677104
>TWL Save Tool
Do I have to mod my 3ds to do that
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Which EO has the best bosses and which EO has the best stratums?
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>>175677292
4
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>>175676280
When they revealed EMD2, it wasn't it not being EO3U what made me angry.
I don't mind it being a spin-off, or a rogue-like one at that either.
It's that it's a repeat of such a dreadful experience that got me. The only announced EO-skinned game but I won't get to play it because I refuse to go through a Mystery Dungeon game again.

>>175677206
Of course. Actually, no. But since you'll be there you might as well
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>>175677430
I do not want to alter my console. It's my friend.
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>>175677580
Do friends let their friends remain handicapped?
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>>175677430
>3baby is also a whiny casual
pottery
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>>175678134
>hasn't played every EO game
Spealing of casuals...
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>>175678134
What does pottery mean
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>best EO battle theme isn't even from EO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTxJGE8PMEY
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if you hate EMD you're a shitter who let the DOEs reach town
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>>175678456
The art of making vases, jars and other utensils and artifacts with clay.
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>>175678472
eww
why did koshiro-san start with this cheesy 70's tv shit anyway?
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>>175678537
WTF I love poetry now
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>>175678472
Nice try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorl77Ti8rU
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>>175678472
It's a jammin' song but I don't think it's a good battle theme.
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>>175678612
shit track for shit series
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So were all in agreement that EO4 despite being a little too easy is still the best game in the series by a longshot, correct?
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>>175679434
pretty much
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>>175679434
No
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>>175679434
Only if it was your first game.
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I wish there were more EO artists who focus on feet, belly buttons and armpits.
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>>175679434
4babies sure are desperate nowadays for people to like their game huh?
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>>175679434
I don't think /eog/ will ever agree on anything.
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>>175679434
Didn't you hear? It was already decided, with our full force of 29 people!
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>>175679750
>he's still THIS butthurt
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>>175679750
You seem really butthurt
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>>175679750
26*. Numbers are hard for me
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>>175679861
hard kinda like how my dick was inside your mom last night lmao kiddo
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>>175679797
>>175679803
>>175679947
Holy shit what'd I do
I didn't even vote
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>>175680063
They think you're the "3baby" poster most likely.
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>>175679750
Can't we just all agree that the series is really good and that 3, 4, and U2 are the best of the bunch and you're likely to enjoy one as your personal fav?
>>
the anti EO3 fag has been on a roll since he was BTFO a few threads ago.
Then went to /v/ to complain that this general's favorite game is not 4 and has been shitposting since then.

Sad anon.

No one really give a fuck about which one is your favorite game.

All EOs are good, but some are just better.
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>>175679750
Yeah 26 people, so that would be pretty much most of the general

Your point?
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>>175680124
I just thought these "once and for all"-posts are really stupid, my reply was supposed to be taken with a healthy glob of sarcasm
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>>175679750
meawhile, years ago

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16_FynMhYWJdHClcpCm0u3bSsSFTHMmylWTEiUqtBpKI/viewanalytics
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>>175680297
>Then went to /v/ to complain that this general's favorite game is not 4 and has been shitposting since then.

Really? Do you have a link?
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>this general is basically 20-40 people

No wonder they won't bring EO5....
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>>175680454
No, because I saw the thread about a week ago.

They also complained that we are fucking dead and rickyposters.
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Is Untold 1 really that bad?
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>>175680802
Nah it's just meh.
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>>175680879
Whats wrong with it exactly? Is it meh to the point where its skippable or is it still worth playing?
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>>175680802
It's pretty unforgiving adn Grimoires suck hard.
Also class variety is a bit low without the story exclusive classes especially when it comes to elemental and/or ranged damage (as Survivalist is in a really bad spot).
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>>175680802
>>175681019
It's great, but some people really dislike grimoires while others dislike story mode.
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>>175681102
>(as Survivalist is in a really bad spot)
but survivalist is the best support in the game
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>>175681019
Still very much worth playing. It just has some glaring flaws and I don't like replaying it that much.
I still do but when I finish EOIII, EOIV and EO2U I usually am already looking forward for my next playthrough with a different party.
With EOU I am mostly happy that I made it through.
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>>175680802
No. It has the best difficulty curve and class balance of the series.
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>>175680440
Huh, never heard of 7th Dragon. Are those games any good?
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>>175681250
It's a fast healer but anything besides Medicas is pretty costly to use for random encounters.
And I don't think they out-support a Troubadour unless you give them a level 10 Warrior's Song Grimoire (and good look getting that).
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>>175681336
>class balance
lol
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>>175681421
The 1st 7th Dragon is EO in a more standard RPG formular. Topdown view of a four person party.
The beginning is hard but it quickly falls off in difficulty.

The other 7th Dragons are their own thing and have not really much in common with EO anymore.
VFD is utter garbage but some people enjoy the 2020s.
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>>175681596
Not the anon you replied to but "the best" does not mean "perfect".

EOIV only seems balanced because it's so easy anything works and in EO2U comparing Fafnir/Dark Hunter to Ronin shows how much of a gap between strong and weak classes there is.

Not sure if it is the best balancing but it's pretty good, even if the story exclusive classes are a bit strong (bot nowhere near Fafnir level).
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>>175681421
Only the first one
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>>175682026
>puffy vulva
I need to play this game
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>>175681421
2020 is a fairly average RPG but I enjoyed it. VFD was just a total casual fest. Koshiro soundtrack is always a plus.
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>>175682026
Is the white haired one in the middle the Rushe of Kingsblade?
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>>175681858
Wow, been a while since I've seen a post this wrong.

>eo4 seems balanced as its easiest
Got that mixed up, friendo. EO4 actually is balanced, which means team comp doesn't matter nearly as much, and as a result the game feels easier for veterans.

>fafnir is good
Fafnir is fucking garbage for the first 60% of the game, gets slightly better up until 80%, and only becomes a memetic powerhouse in the 5th stratum and postgame. And Dark Hunter? Did you mean to say War Magus?
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Be honest. How much of each game do you look up before playing it?

Do you look up builds? Do you look up conditional drops? Do you look up monster weaknesses as you fight them?

Do you look everything up at the beginning? Or do you beat the main game, then spoil everything during postgame
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>>175685571
I just don't play the games
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>>175685571
No. No. No.
No. Yes.
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>>175685571
I look up stuff once I finish the main game or if I get really stuck.
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So if the Switch really is the 3ds killer and EO is still alive after the 3ds is kill, how would future EO games even work on the switch?
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>>175685571
I generally tend to look for info on classes to avoid getting fucked like with Ronins in U2. Also for shit skills that sound way better in their description, and sometimes for their damage modifiers since the game insists on being absurdly vage about that.
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>>175684581
>EO4 actually is balanced, which means team comp doesn't matter nearly as much, and as a result the game feels easier for veterans.

There is a massive power difference between running a cookie cutter party and weak classes.
A Link party destroys anything in a few turns, other classes have serious trouble bringing even something to the table.

In other games Sniper and Bushi would be straight up garbage while Medic could only be run with Landsknecht sub.
Arcanist probably too because they are really slow.
You just don't notice how much of a power difference there is because anything goes.
Whether you beat the boss with no trouble in four turns or with some a lot of trouble after 12 turns is a massive difference. It just doesn't feel like that because even with weak classes bosses just die too quickly.

>Fafnir is fucking garbage for the first 60% of the game
I wonder why people always insist on that. I recently beat Expert Story mode and Fafnir was a Beast from the moment Chloe and Bertrand joined (and he got his transformation) up until I beat Ur-Child.
The 50% damage bonus in Transformation is great but the real kicker are the skills.
The Waves on 9 deal 560% TEC damage - that is more than a Compressed rank 10 area Formula. Granted Alchemist has better TEC but nothing can deal so much damage so early in the game.
And Delayed Chase and Blade Recoil even increase that damage further.

True, in the second stratum Chloe will slowly catch up if you rush for Ailing Slash but then Fafnir gets a small power boost with Extend.

The third Stratum is the only time he is even or falls slightly behind Chloe - and then he gets Accelerate and becomes utterly and completely broken.

It doesn't matter at all that he sucks outside of his Transformation because unless you waste his skill points on pure physical skills or waste Arianna as a buff character no boss except Scylla even lives for more than single digit turns.
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>>175685571
I look up skill stats/info beforehand and while playing, and check drop info after I've finished the main game.
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>>175684581
>And Dark Hunter? Did you mean to say War Magus?

And I meant Dark Hunter.
Trance and higher multipliers means their damage is completely overclocked.
With a single turn of preperation Dark Hunter can one-shot Storm Emporer on Expert. Many classes can get to that level but not a single one that fast.
If Mirror Shield would use any body part You could kill Blizzard King in three turns but Mirror Shield buys him another turn (which means binds can fall off).
And Red Dragon can also be killed in a single Trance.
Without any Charge effects or Monster Grimoires - just normal Troubadour buffs and Hexer debuffs.
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>>175686646
EO2U tells you what putting a point into a skill will do.

>giant text box
>next: attack up-arrow
Gee, thanks game.
I'm pretty sure there is no possible way you could be any less vague about that. The technology just isn't there.
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>just unlocked ronin
>want to use ronin
>would be a downgrade in damage from chase land + alchemist
>already have buff slots taken by immunize, defender, bravery, relaxing

Help
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>>175689076
>being THIS much of a cookie-cutter fag
holy fuck kill yourself.
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>>175689076
just is it you pussy
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>>175689076
Easy: don't.
You would need to grind her up anyways which is boring af.
Or just try them in low level areas to see how much stances eat up their precious turns.
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>>175689201
I just looked at the classes and picked what I liked and it ended up being cookie cutter. The only thing that was spoiled to me was immunize

>>175689324
I don't mind grinding, I grinded up troubadour when dark hunter wasn't doing so well on my team
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>>175688948
>The technology just isn't there
wat
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>>175689410
If you don't mind grinding than what's the problem?

Get Ronin, grind up Ronin, use Ronin, keep the character you boot for Ronin at the same level and switch out when you feel like you need to.

BTW Ronin has elemental skills you could Chase but that is pretty skill point intensive.
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>>175689812
The problem is that my team is incredibly solid and it will probably be a downgrade
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>>175690307
My main advice has not changed: simply don't.

But if you want to do it then just do it. You are running both Immunize and Defender, nothing can touch you anyways.

And if it doesn't work out it doesn't - since you claim not to mind grinding I still fail to see any problem.
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>>175681421
DS and 2020-II are alright. 2020 is easy and VFD is very easy.
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>>175687486
>Sniper is straight up garbage
It feeds links and is the strongest physical class for two stratums due to the level gating mechanic.
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>>175685571
All I'll do is look at a class's basic abilities though in 5 I looked at their branching skill trees.
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>>175691482
Links and Ice Knifes are also partial physical (to hit stab or cut weaknesses) they scale against VIT and since I can not remember any "decrease elemental damage" buffs or debuffs I don't see any advantage of dealing pure physical damage.

They can attack multiple targets at once and deal full damage to the back line but that has never saved Survivalist.
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What is your favorite dungeon-crawler series besides EO?
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>>175692957
SMT
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>>175692150
Ice Knife falls off and NS's only other alternative is fishing for ailments to use Shadow Bite when you don't have access to Ailment Boost until like halfway through the 4th Stratum depending on how much you grind.

Meanwhile Snipers have their best attack from the 2nd stratum and Stab is a fairly common weakness. They also bring Eagle Eye to the table freeing up the already busy Arcanist to do something else during the set up turns.

Also, unlike Survalists, Snipers can contribute to feeding the cookie cutter chaser build so they're still a positive benefit after their damage falls off at the end.
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>>175692957
Grimrock was great. I was hyped for grimrock 2.
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>>175692957
I liked Wizardry and CoH 1. Dunno if I can consider those my favorites since I haven't played much outside these + EO series in regards to first person dungeon crawlan.

CoH 2 felt incredibly easy and Wizardry games are generally hard to get into to.
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>>175693094
So you play with Spotter in order to get around the need for leg binds?
It can work but if you also run a Runemaster you will have trouble with a Dancer.

Ok, maybe they are not straight up garbage - but I'm still not sure they would be run if the game was harder.
Swift Edge against a blinded or paniced enemy also has the four hits needed for Links and it deals more damage - but needs a frontline position.
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>>175694619
Sniper being the only reliable source of a 100% hit attack in Stratum 2 besides Burst would give them a huge niche.
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>>175695273
I never found Hollows to be that bad. Besides the one fight in which you safe the Medium you only can encounter them in the last half of the 2nd floor before you get Wufan.

But they might be a bigger deal if the game is harder - they can be pretty annoying in Hall of Darkness...
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>>175673852
pls leave me alone.... that wasn't me either.....
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>>175686226
Minimap on the corner, touch/press X to expand, pointer for drawing while docked.
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>>175697138
So there are people in here besides you that are thirsty for the male portraits?
We are more diverse than I thought...
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>>175697464
S h o c k i n g 。
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>>175692957
Wizardry. The japanese ones kinda suck though.
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>>175686226
>future EO games
There will be none.
And even then it's not like the second screen is needed for something other than maps and rpgs have decades of assorted solutions to the problem of fitting the vital info on a single screen.
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>just hacked my 3ds and can't stop playing EO5
>250 word essay due in 2 hours
>worst of all it has to be in Spanish

Fug
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>>175697995
Are there any Wizardry games are worth playing besides 6, 7 and 8?
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>>175698037
>other than maps
Which just so happens a very damn big deal for Etrian Odyssey and quite probably its most distinctive feature.
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>>175698192
Riparoni famalam
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>>175697463
>pointer for drawing while docked

What?
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>>175698274
Return of Werdna :^)
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>>175698192
Doscientas cincuenta palabras no son nada, nenaza. No llega a una página y solo con ese post ya llegas al 10% del objetivo. Tienes que escribir ese post en español diez putas veces.
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>>175698296
And still just dealing with maps is easier than if second scren was actually important for something else
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>>175698192
250 is barely anything, especially in Spanish. I can probably do it in half an hour.
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>>175698668
deport yourself
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>>175698668
Le faltó un 0
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>Conditional: Kill with curse damage
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>>175698706
Of course you can deal with it but it's still a clunky solution. Right now, the switch from exploring to drawing is seamless and you can look around freely while doing the latter. The liberty to see the whole map at any moment once it's complete is also great.
Introducing a menu transition would mess it up. To the point of the game would be better doing away with it entirely, I think. Which would suck.
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>>175698836
Me niego

>>175699003
Time to give up then.
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>>175699134
>Formaldehyde
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>>175699495
I don't have access to it yet.
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>>175699528
Haven't gotten any chest with it either?
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>>175699528
It's not like you can ignore that conditional until you get one
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>>175699134
>looking up conditionals
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Is there anyway Swipe Slash can 1-shot bosses?
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>>175700782
IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?
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>>175701138

BIGGER
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>>175701138
delet this and then yourself
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>>175701138
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>>175700782
Was the EOIV's innkeeper's steam a form of censorship?
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>>175701638
Censorship of what
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>>175701638

Aren't all the girls wearing clothes a form of censorship?
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How come my medic literally always misses circles? Is it res to binds or is he just that bad?
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>>175703113
Low luck. That's why Arcanist/Medic is better
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EO V released in English?
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>>175703683
Ahh, gotcha. I'll keep that in mind.
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>>175703706
neVer eVer
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What're the dlc trade items used for? Post game or smth?
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Who thought Sanzu was a good idea?
https://youtu.be/2CeTuEjsd5w
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>>175708476
It can hurt you, so obviously it doesn't need any further balancing
t.Atlus
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>>175708476
I guess they didn't think people would have an AGI centric party
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Should I use these guildkeeper teas or grimoires in EOU expert? It feels like they're OP and kill the challenge
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>>175709821
Teas/stories/summons aren't as powerful as you might think, except for maybe the +2 in all skills tea. Grimoires, depending on what skills you have in them. For instance, I used them to get gathering skills on my characters to get rare materials without having to spend points into the actual skills.
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Should I give my shaman Wis accesories? Does wis affect passive heals?
Or focus on something more important?
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>>175710765
+30% max HP is pretty damn strong considering you get it so early
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>>175708476
>using shitsona music instead of glorious Koshiro music
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>>175710765
guildkeeper teas aren't honestly that strong. you might think the hp one is powerful but in reality that just means your healer has to put in even more work. tp one is the best but it's still not that great

grimoires aren't also that powerful, you can use it to double up on mastery and if you have a gunner you can throw action boost on everybody but there's really only a few really good things you'll get from them
>>
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>>175709150
If that was the thought behind it then Atlus obviously doesn't play their own games.
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>>175717868
It's Atlus. They think Press Turn and its derivatives are good battle systems, balance is clearly not a priority.
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How is one meant to map the 6th stratum in EOV?
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Anyone know any other skillsims for EO4 besides crazyuncleivans? It's down as of now.
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>>175721045
Without walls.
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>tfw EO3U is announced on the 20th
>tfw EOV is announced for the west shortly after at e3

Its gonna happen fellas. It has to.
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>>175725191
I mean mapping all the teleporters that teleport you a different amount of spaces.
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>>175725494
I just put markers down at their destinations. They worked like the 4th stratum crystals and just push you to the closest one on the opposite side of entry in a line. At least I remember them doing that most of the time.
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>eo4 skill simulator is down

Fug
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How should I go about making a Chain Killer party for Dragon Zombie?
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Kill your guild members, boyo.
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My guild is a bit different.
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>>175729793

BEHOLD, MY GUILD!

>Uses Inferno Rune on Boiling Lizard.
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So we've all come to the same conclusion that the Untolds were blunders beyond redemption and that there is absolutely without a doubt no reason to play them over the originals, correct?
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>>175731217
yeeep
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>>175731217
Yes.

Did you know EO3 is the best game in the series?
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>>175731662
>He's STILL this buttmad
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>>175711106
Affection and Gospel scale with the HP the target has. Bunrei scales with the damage the target deals.
Only Blessing of Heaven and Consoling the Dead scale with WIS.
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>>175701138
THICCER
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>>175725395
neVer eVer

The series is dead and Atlus only wants to use Himukai's designs for spin-offs.

EO2U sold too little, EOV's voice actors were too expensive.
Corporate decisions have claimed yet another victim.
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>>175735623
I can't wait for the 20th so you "le EO is ded guys xD" memers can get BTFO'd when EO3U gets announced.

It'll be even more glorious when EOV is announced for the west at e3.
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>>175735808
I remember how people said that about the last Atlus stream (that was on the actual birthday of EO) and we got EMD2 out of it.

So enjoy your Persona Q 2 with a side dish of crushed hope while I just shrug because I knew what would happen.
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>>175736445
>P5 goes full SMT at the end.
>P5Q goes full EO at the end, whatever that would mean.
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>>175737614
>P5 goes full SMT at the end.
>babbies first free will vs. complete control
>full SMT
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>>175738247

I am content as long as I get to beat the shit out of Gabby and the rest of the archangel losers.
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Bushi is such a great class.
If only they hadn't messed up Blood Surge it would have such an interesting way to play. Buff yourself up like mad and unleash big attack, then reload with normal attacks.

But as it stands they are just sitting on the sideline while everyone steals their buffing without needing to reload because they don't have such a small TP pool.
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>>175736445
>last Atlus stream (that was on the actual birthday of EO)
No it wasn't
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>>175738559
>hating on angels

Chaos fags get out
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>>175740676
You are right, even that one was two months overdue.
They really don't care, do they?
Maybe they hoped everyone would forget the series existed until May so they don't even have to make a stream.
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>>175738559
Michael was a massive cunt without mudo
what an annoying fight
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Tank: Beast
Binds/Ailments: Wildling
Melee Damage: Bushi
Ranged Damage: Hawk Hound
Healer: Dog Hound

Full animal team when?
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>>175743019
All you need is loli wildling.
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>>175743147
Wildlings are sadly only allowed to summon one animal. Yggdroids can summon as many bots as they want, Ninja as many shadows and clones as they want.
But not Wildlings.

So beast queen loli soloing is sadly not possible.
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>>175743267
Man EO3 really has the best classes
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>>175743453
If only the balancing was better.
Not having accumulated resistances be eternal would have improved Wildling and Ninja massively - but it took until EOU for them to figure that out (EOIV only has Releasal Spell but it barely matters because everything dies so fast).
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If the stream is just for announcing PQ2 imma straight up kill myself right on the spot famalams
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>>175743267
So yggdroid wilding is the answer.
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>>175744772
This sounds like smth I'd say lol

What would pq2 even be about anyway? Persona 5 meeting persona 3 and 4???
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>>175744772
>anniversary stream
>PQ2
>Persona 5 anime
>Etrian Odyssey pachinko
>next day
>PQ2 US release date announced
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>>175745628
>spoiler
Anything but that
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>>175745043
Persona 5 characters meet Etrian Odyssey portraits - and they all have annoying and very flat personalities.
Skill system is still the Persona Q crap because actual trees are too much work.
Giving out an underwhelming skill every few dozen levels is so much easier.
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>>175745858
Lazy princess.
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>>175746254
Princesses are allowed to be lazy - they heal people just by being there.
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Why does the EOV story final boss theme sound familiar?
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>>175746431
Genki>kuudere
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>>175746659
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>>175746854
You're ruining her regal radience
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>>175746931

I'll destroy her royal veil.
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>>175747080
You can never take away her nobility proof
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>>175740906
>watching beyond trash tier anime
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>>175743019
>wildling
>hound
>full animal
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>>175747474
>747474
nice trips
it was pretty boring, but the little noises Satania makes made my dick diamonds
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>pirate EOMD out of curiosity
>get to the first miniboss
>it ohkos two of my party on it's first turn
I'm guessing I was meant to go back to town first.
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>>175749028
scrub
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>>175749078
Maybe, I haven't played any mystery dungeon games before. How are you supposed to know if you're ready for the boss though without doing this?
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>>175747556
I don't think we will ever get more animals so animal handlers need to make due.
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>>175749148
If you can trash the dungeon you should be able to trash the boss.
In any way the physical melee unit shouldn't die right away and you should have some leaves/nectars, then the entire battle is move everyone but physical unit one-two steps away and heal it for the whole fight while the retarded boss wails on it pointlessly
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>>175750553
It's just I didn't have time to figure out any of that because I got half wiped after one move. so the amber shot thing is only one tile range?
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>>175750698
It may be more but the AI in mystery dungeon is retarded both ways and between picking the closest target and far away target it will pick closest pretty much anytime and your other units shouldn't be at risk.
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"Hello, I'm a Guard.
Would you help us get some information about some monsters?
But you have to kill them in a specific order because I am too stupid to manage multiple pieces of paper."
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>>175752668
You shouldn't laugh at disabled people
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>>175752798
I wonder how one gets to be a Guard? These guys are getting slaughtered by deer which are no trouble for explorers after two weeks tops.
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>>175753592
>have to guard a town
>from people who slay eldrich horrors
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>>175753592
Adventurers are special, guards are just normal people
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>>175753998
You would think they would actually train their guards if their city is brimming with battle hardened adventurers instead of letting everyone in that can hold a sword on the right end.
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>>175752668
And I made it through on my first try.
I have to say, going wiht a Medic and without a Fortress is kind of annoying - with a Fortress and someone with Bracing Walk you kust let your tank get hit (and restore TP) and heal up naturally between fights. Without this you actually spend a lot of TP.
Not that it makes EOIV hard, just less friendly.
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>>175754328
I wonder how the Guards in Tharsis cope with the overabundance of lolis.

You and the other guards are scared shitless from normal bears and meanwhile this little girl with twintails takes a hit to the face from the king of bears and doesn't even flinch...
It must really suck.
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>>175757978
Why do you think they wear helmets all the time, it's for hiding their feelings
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>>175757978
Etrian Odyssey VI will be on the Switch and it won't release outside of Japan
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>>175759065
>won't release outside of Japan
Just like V
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>>175735808
Man I remember the people that were going "EOV is dead, Atlus hasn't said anything about it since the reveal, which didn't even feature gameplay". The way they were BTFO shortly after was glorious.
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>>175759065
Well, then I won't need to buy a Switch.
Saves me some money.
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>>175759705
Switch is region free
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>>175759065
good thing the switch is not region locked
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>>175759904
moonrunes
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>>175759065
Ha! Jokes on you senpai, Switch is region free.
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>>175589127
> Still no translation patch for EOV

why live
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>>175760192
>>175761213
Just learn jap holy shit it's not that hard
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>>175761213
There will never be a patch. It's too much work to make one.
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>>175761335
Fucking liar, learning how to read Jap is very fucking hard. It's not easy like Spanish or even medium like Arabic, it's fucking hard.
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Why are Olympia and Artelinde friendly towards you at first when they plan to kill you anyways?
Fucking psychopaths.
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How come your adventurers can become some of the strongest humans on the entire face of the planet in less than a year yet there are loads of adventurers who spend years in the labyrinth and barely make it past the 3rd stratum at most?
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>>175761335
>learning pointless language only used by a bunch of useless island racists just for videogames and porn
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>>175766071
Those adventurers are complacent. They don't fight FOEs, they don't fight bosses, they run from battles. They probably explore parts of the labyrinth that you don't see in the game.

Meanwhile your party through their efforts quickly gets a place of importance in city affairs (depending on game), gets tons of rewards, makes friends with the right people at the right time (class unlockable npcs etc.), overcomes foes, overcomes bosses, and continuously advances.

I think the idea is that until your guild comes along, no one is suicidal / brave enough to risk everything over and over just to make it around the corner.

Or you think of it this way, the other guilds don't get a do over when they game over like you do. Maybe you just hop world lines to a world where you didn't game over every time and you beat the game on the one in a million world where you made it.
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>>175766071
How come some autists whine about expert being too easy while a huge load of shitters cannot even deal with picnic?
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>>175766071
That's a good question. I'd love a mechanic where other guilds gain experience and compete with you, Or you could try to fight them in the dungeon for treasure you both want. Maybe comfy chatter in the bar?
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>>175766394
Random Encounters with other guilds would be a cool mechanic though I'm not sure how they would implement it.
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>>175766513
Battles would need 3d models of the competing guild. Maybe every different guild would have a different style of fighting and party. A defensive/support one or a full on offensive party.
Would it be too much like Pokémon then?
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>>175766071
There is one fucking guild in EOIII that is only made up of Farmers and they are treated like a big deal.

And if you have other adventurers in your party and can look at their skills it's always a complete clusterfuck.

Everyone besides Wufan and Baldur is a fucking disgrace in EOIV (and Baldur is cheating by having every skill maxed and some above max level).
Medic sub for Bushi, Runemaster sub for Fortress - if these are the best it's no wonder the world is doomed.

And Marion in EO2U is not much better. Basically every non-axe skill at 5 except Ice Chaser at 10. Also no Grimoires despite her giving you a tutorial on them at the start of the game...

Not to mention the people that seem halfway competent always only form two man groups or go completely solo (EOIII).
Doing autism challenge runs while there are trees to be destroyed. baka
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>>175766750
I think when you send your guild card to another player you should be able to see them in the bar/labyrinth sometimes.
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>>175766949
I didn't think about these before, but now I'm sad they're not in the game
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>>175766071
Unnatural events always happen to the protagonist of any story because otherwise you wouldn't have a fucking story.

Your guild is just fucking hardcore. The rest of the town is just making a living, scraping by, dealing with the first two floors if that.
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>>175766949
Isn't that what's happening in EOV?
There are events in the labyrinth where another guild givey you food and you either get the generic Nenefencer or it pulls from your pool of guild cards.
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>>175767113
>Isn't that what's happening in EOV?
Gee anon, I wouldn't know.
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>>175766394
>>175766750
Lol just name the game 'guild wars' then
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>>175767113
>get the generic Nenefencer
fucking disgusting, now i have to import cards as well
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>>175768165
>>175767113
are there still QR codes?
I'm sure EOG will fill the card roster as soon as the demo drops
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>>175768165
She also gives you her guild card.
So if you don't delete it afterwards she still has a chance to appear even if you get other guild cards.
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>>175768381
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>>175768323
Yes, QR codes still exist.
Since you have no Guild House or Wharf cards are now handled at the Inn.
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>>175769084
Why is her mouth closed? Who is this?
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>>175769378
Blonde, blue eyes - it must be Ricky.
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>>175769543
Ah, I see. That makes sense, thanks.
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Question involving EO4

If say I was a Landsknecht/Bushi and I equip Katana MH and a Sword OH. When I use an ability that requires the sword, will it use my ATK with the Katana's stats in mind or the sword's stats in mind?
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>>175769917
That seems like the sort of think you could easily test for yourself in game
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>>175769917
Afaik you use the actual weapon the skill needs.
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>>175769976
Apparently, it does the sword stats. unless an attack has a damage range of 500+
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>>175769976
>That seems like the sort of think you could easily test for yourself in game
You literally can't test that ingame
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>>175770743
>pick strongest sword you have with weakest katana you have
>test damage
>then pick weakest sword you have with strongest katana you have
>test damage
??
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>>175770809
The damage is not a set number, it always random.
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>>175771001
>do the test multiple times against the same enemy
>compare values
??
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>>175770809
That sounds more reasonable of a test with Rapier/Sword since they have weapons of similar damage (sword has 20dmg lowest and rapier has 17 lowest)

Katana has too high of a lowest weapon to test properly, so just gonna test with rapier/sword to get results that would be incredibly noticeable.
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>>175771141
It uses the Weapon the skill required, so >>175770229
was right, I just didn't know how how to test it. I'm dumb.
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>>175769378
Why don't i ailing slash you, little smartass piece of shit
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>>175771625
But the only ailment I'm suffering from is love.
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>>175771827
love of dicks maybe
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>>175771827
1100% damage modifier
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Rapier Atk:17 Sword Atk:119
Spiral Slice: 618
Penetrate: 83

Rapier Atk: 110 Sword Atk: 20
Spiral Slice: 89
Penetrate: 661

Surprising.
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>>175772326
>inb4 random damage number guy tries to argue this.

I got the same results when it cam eto difference in damage, now I just gotta work with it until I get a stronger Sword.
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>>175766394
At the very least, I'd like to see mentions of this or that guild achieving something amazing ahead of you, or dealing with some crisis. Kinda like thar ronin's guild in High Lagaard but also mentioned when you are not involved.

Unfortunately Etrian Odyssey is a power fantasy so the game is too busy sucking your dick and telling you how super speshul you are to allow any NPC to threaten your spot as the only strong and competent person in the city.
It can get so damn patronizing...
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>>175773097
I remember Skies of Arcadia having this, where other pirates would discover important landmarks before you, if you weren't fast enough, and being able to battle them, as bonus bosses.
Fuck that game was good
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>>175773097
Funnily enough the first game wasn't like this.
At least town NPCs basically gave no shit about you.
And in the end you destroyed the town economic by exploring the labyrinth (because Etrians seemingly only like adventurer and hate scholars and archeologists??)

Then EOII came along and everyone sucked your dick. If you used a password from EO they even called you the heroes of Etria which isn'T even remotely true...
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>>175761335
i'd rather learn a valuable skill instead
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>>175773705
>(because Etrians seemingly only like adventurer and hate scholars and archeologists??)
Or lumberjacks, miners, pharmacists, hunters and literally anyone who makes a living out of natural resources.
It was beyond retarded.
As for the heroes of Etria part, I guess it at least matches with the falseness of "Etria's Nightmare" or however that common monster from Etria was called.
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>>175773813
Define valuable skill.
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>>175761213
Just use google translate on your phone holy shit it's not that hard
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>>175773097
>Unfortunately Etrian Odyssey is a power fantasy so the game is too busy sucking your dick and telling you how super speshul you are to allow any NPC to threaten your spot as the only strong and competent person in the city.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Look I don't mind if my guild is praised if I made it to say the 4th or 5th stratum, but why the fuck is it a huge deal to everyone that I managed to kill the 1st stratum's boss and made it to the 2nd stratum? Though this is mostly a problem I have with EO2, really. In EO1 and EO3 no one gives a shit you managed to kill the big bad of the 1st stratum.
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>>175774142
Chop, take, etc
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>>175774026
It's funny to think that in every other game your characters are noble heroes of justice who always do the right thing no matter what while in EO1 your guild consists of nothing but psychopaths who care only about money and fame.
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>>175775610
The main missions always give money and more importantly sweet, sweet XP.

Also I'm not sure how much justice there is in letting Guild Esbat go their merry way after they confessed murdering dozens of explorers...
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>>175776326
They had a good lawyer.
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>>175777729
The "Artelinde is kind of cute" defense was just too strong.
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Where can you find milk in EOV. This is driving me insane.
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>>175779653
You can get cows with the Animal Husbandry racial passive and then leave them in the Inn.
Every now and then Genetta will then give you milk.
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>>175779915
We don't even know whose milk is that
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>>175781454
bunnymilk
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>>175779915
All I get is eggs and honey. I must have cows, since I've beat every quest. Except this one that I need milk for.
Apparently there's a bug where you can't get milk after you reach the 5th stratum. Can anyone confirm?
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>>175782175
I don't know if you get cows from quests - I believe you just get them from events in the labyrinth.
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>>175774026
>literally anyone who makes a living out of natural resources.
Well what else are you gonna do in the town which only exists because of the tree?
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>>175773097
>>175775382
If you hate getting your dick sucked, just play The Dark Spire so you can have NPC's laugh at you and treat you like an imbecile instead.
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>>175783860
Sell overpriced shit to explorers.

The original EO basically ends with "now that you have explored the labyrinth no more adventurers will come so the town is doomed".
Which is fucking stupid because of all the gathering points for rare materials and the literal treasure trove of artifacts down there.

If anything Etria would be better off than ever now that not only borderline suicidal folks want to go there...
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How are you going to celebrate when EOV is announced for the west?
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>>175785052
Post Nene
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>>175785052
Probably by catching one of those flying pigs.
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>>175783990
That sounds like NPCs being replaced by people form this general.
Might be interesting.
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>>175785052
I might legitimately cry
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>>175785052
By not giving a shit since I'm playing it and am on the 5th statum, maybe by posting what little there is to spoil about the game
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>>175785052
neVer eVer
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>>175785052
Whack it to a Minami star doujin.
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>>175786435
So the same as any other day?
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>>175786576
Yeah but this time I'll be happy doing it.
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>Nintendo Direct E3 2017
>they announce Etrian Odyssey Untold 3, Persona 5 Portable, and show off SMT V, all on Switch
Would you go and buy a Switch?
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>>175787185
How would I map on a switch?
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>>175787185
>Persona 5 Portable, and show off SMT V
Could not give less of a shit

>etrian anything on any console
Would buy the console
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>>175787310
You play it holding the Switch vertically, so you draw on the bottom half of the screen.
Auto-map in reality. Map drawing isn't fun and everyone knows it.
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>>175787538
>Map drawing isn't fun and everyone knows it.
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>>175787538
>Map drawing isn't fun and everyone knows it.

Get the fuck out of my general and never post here again
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>Etrian Odyssey
>Etrian Odyssey II

which is better? The originals, not the remakes
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>>175787538
We do not welcome your ilk here.
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Mapping is artificial fun
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>>175787538
kys my man
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>>175787842
2 is the best game of the whole lot.
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>>175785052
I'm not going to celebrate at all. I don't really care if it is or isn't localized.
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>>175787842
2 is the best game on the DS, and the third best game overall
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>>175791574
Nah more like 5th best sorry bud
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>>175791702
If your opinions are shit, sure.
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>>175791754
U2 > 3 > 4 > U1 > 2 > 1

Any other order is unacceptable.
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>>175792080
>3 above anything other than 1
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>>175792080
>U2 at top
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>>175792268
>>175792412

Here we go again with these EPIC contrarian opinions
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where are EOV and coven?
why do trashier dungeon crawlers make the jump, but not these two
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>>175793641
I've played EOV but still not coven. Let's hope that one gets localized soon.
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>>175792491
>the only retard who likes 2U and keeps memeing
>hurr contrarians
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>>175796791
Actually, I'm not the only one :^)
>>175679750
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>>175787185
I'd get a job just to buy the Switch in this case.
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>>175787538
>Map drawing isn't fun and everyone knows it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYkqmMLONDY
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>>175793641
what's coven?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9zwS3JT8M4
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>ywn fuck a shield slut on her own shield
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>>175802012
2nd best game in that series
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>>175804801
2020 pls go
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>>175804902
2020 is the 2nd worst game just above VFD.
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War Revive
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>>175802012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR1hqmUzHPk
I never finished 7th dragon
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>>175807685
How far did you get?
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>>175810475
I beat the dragon in that tower with the all-women town. I forgot what I had to do now since its been ages since I last played this.
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>>175810990
You're not too far off from the end IIRC. I dropped it a couple dungeons later.
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So how does it feel knowing that Persona Q is better than any EO game ever made?
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>>175813270
It was okay
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>>175813270
Common knowledge. And even if it's not nobody has the will left to argue about it.
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So why are you guys sad that the stream is probably gonna be for PQ2 if the original was better than the other EO games?
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>>175813270
I thought the map in lower screen was ugly desu
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>>175816580
Not an argument you desperate EOfag lmao. PQ objectively has better dungeon design, better combat, better bosses, and to top it all off it has the demon fusion ala SMT.

It pretty much made all of EO irrelevant quite honestly.
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>>175816756
So when's the sequel?
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>>175816862
announcements coming may 20th my man
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>>175816756
I dunno how the game itself is desu the map turned me off that much
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>>175817031
>not playing the best EO game ever made because of how the map looks

lmao kiddo just kill yourself
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>>175817106
I'm not killing myself over being displeased with the visual presentation of a critical element of an SQ game
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>>175816382
Your mom was sad when you crawled out of the abortion bucket, but she still goes on with her life.
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Why are the personafags shitposting?
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>>175817389
dam son u sound kind of mad. maybe u could unwind and relax by playing literally the best EO game ever made, Persona Q?

>>175817492
PQ is EO related, fuck off.
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>>175817573
But it lacks the main thing that makes an EO game an EO game. You can't make your own characters.
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>>175818045
Makes up for it easily with demon fusion. Try again.
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>>175818103
Demon fusion doesn't make up for this.
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>>175817492
They keep getting blown out by the SMT dudes in their thread so they think EO gen is easy prey or something. Hard to get mad when listening to chill as fuck EO BGM in a pretty forest with your team of cute girls.
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>>175816756
Are you here to rival the EO3 and EO2U idiots?
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>>175818834
>He's still this butthurt
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>>175818103
Do people actually like demon fusion?

It's the worst shit.
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>going through hoops to get the skill you want and make an actual viable stat speead/skills
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>>175818548
>implying anyone actually does that autistic shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nfSnDo_p3s
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you're never getting Untold 3
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>>175820925
Who honestly cares? EO3 is dogshit.
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>>175820925
I never wanted any untolds in the first place
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>>175822076
No more gays
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>>175820925
sauce of pic?
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Dungeon RPG is dead torever.
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nene will save eov
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>>175824617
All Nenefags should be captured and put into detainment camps. What happens to them depends on May 20.
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What's better in an elemental chase party - Palmchemist or Ronin?
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>>175824617
"Nene is my greatest work"
-Yuji Himukai 2016
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>>175825448
That's Komori though, it says right there
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>>175825230
dum nig
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>>175825591
Himukai gave him that as a farewell gift.
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>>175826386
He seems like a total qt though
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I want runemaster to be my daddy too... :'-(
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>>175825230
They are both horrible - but if the choice is between bad and worse take Palm-Alchemist.
Even if their damage is low at least they have two hits a turns (and don't have the delay of Ronin).
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What EO game are you playing tonight my dudes?
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>>175829026
EOV
Trying to make an all Warlock party
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>>175828809
what about when teamed with a Chaseshark? I'm running one of those too.

>>175829026
was fiddling around in U2, testing how element chase parties work but I'm goin to sleep now
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>>175829026
the waiting game
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>>175829249
A single Chase is worth 155% STR based damage at max.
A Palm-Alchemist hits for 165% and 206% TEC damage with Palm and Additional Palm (20% more the next turn onward).
So you get 310% STR damage and 371% (or 445%) TEC damage.

A normal Alchemists uses Compression (first turn is usually set-up anyways - I'm sure you would want to use buffs on your Chaser) and either an area attack for a total of 640% damage or a Jar and the food for 880% damage.
You only get 155% STR damage but usually you Alchemist should easily make going the Compression route dish out more damage total.

You could also run a Gunner for their Force Boost and Double Action on everyone (except your tank).
If your Healer is a Sovereign with Link Order you already have 4 elemental hits (two from Gunner, one from Alchemist, one from Sovereign) so a single Double Action procc will max out your 5 Chases.
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>>175829026
Replaying EOIV without a Fortress but with a Medic.
Vanguard Medic is pretty fun they use up so much TP in random encounters.
And while their damage and defenses are ok at the start of the game they fall more and more behind as it goes on so I will soon need to put him into the back.
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>>175817492
>retards are shitposting
Totally unexpected
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>>175828543
Remove fujos
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>>175831189
Noh
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>>175800071
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>>175832212
That shinobi might as well be naked
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>>175832679
Most of them might as well be naked.
Also "Neutral" characters with a visible chest and "Male" characters with a loli chest strab - the artists really used any excuse to draw more female characters...
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>>175832212
Me 4th from the left 3rd from the top
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>>175832212
>All those bell users (male)

japan pls
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How do you get the coffin with the weapon skill Debilitating Breath?
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So when you wipe in eomd you send your backups to reclaim your things, but what happens if you die on a boss floor? Do you have to be able to beat the boss since you can't warp out?
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>>175832212
wow they even made a self-insert character
>>175835684
They probably are spawned on a floor above
You're supposed to carry nether dust to boss fights anyway
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>>175835684
The one time I wiped at a boss, I was not given the choice to go back with a different party. Maybe because everyone was at a fort?
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>>175836219
>>175836347
I dunno, I haven't died yet but I don't know if I'm ready for the boss or if I should run the dungeon again and grind out the secondaries in case I need them

Is Wanderer any good? As much as I like Shiren, and the haste/slow stuff at the end of the tree, a lot of their skills seem underwhelming.
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>>175836574
Wanderer is pretty good but still inferior to landshark
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>>175836685
Is it just for links and the two range stab?
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>>175836861
Links are a very big difference, especially in EMD where they are considered a status
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>>175837972
Artelinde looks so jealous.
She knows bondage play is something she will never have because SHE IS FUCKING IMMUNE TO ALL BINDS AND ALL AILMENTS EXCEPT POISON! WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA? WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?

At least she blows herself up in the end.
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>>175838327
>expecting good decisions from the worst game
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Answer seriously, do you actually want to fuck the characters? Like, they're in the game, they're imaginary. Even then I've seen people post things similar to >>175828543 and >>175656561 before. And worse
That's basically a mental illness, so I assume everyone is just joking.
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>>175839417
>not wanting to fuck your characters
Remove plebs
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>>175841790
What's it with Himukai and poofy pants? Imperials also had those.
And their shoes had blade-like spikes at the top that are now at the bottom...
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>>175843096
Imperial shoes actually had some dumb impractical spikes while masuraos wear tengu-geta for whatever reason
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>>175843096
Why did imperials have those stupid spikes on the front of their shoes? Ruined the design for me
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>>175843498
Aren't they blades? So they can effectively use their feet for cutting enemies.
Then again, why would they need that when they got big ass swords
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>>175843769
Just make the end of the boot sharp like actual medieval armor, that way it just enhances your natural kick ability.
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EOIV
>1st maze mission: kill the red beast
>kill the beast but hear something else roar
>you can not call your mission finished until everything is killed

>4th maze mission: save the medium and stop the emperor
>achieve neither, let him escape with the medium - but a giant robot and yggdrasil are dead
>eh, good enough

Adventurers are only motivated as long as they know what to kill and how to reach it.
The Outland Court knows that and rewards you accordingly.
He has to be smart to keep his city safe because his guard is useless.
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>>175843769
We already had two classes thet punch their enemies - do you think we will ever get a class around kicking monsters?
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>>175829026
EOIV, its true that it's easier than the others. I'm enjoying the laid-back dungeon crawl.
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>>175829026
Etrian Odyssey 1 on ds. I'm in the third stratum
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>>175846343
Is there any reason to play EO1 instead of Untold if you have a 3DS?
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>>175846420
I don't know. I want to play them in release order. When I get to untold 1 it will be nice to see the differences
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>>175846420
Maps and class difference is different.
There are similar mechanics and bosses and the like have similar themes (although barely in some cases - Fenrir got downgraded from a gear check to a tutorial for a mechanic you barely use afterwards) and the story is the same - but from a gameplay perspective you could treat both of them as their own cungeon crawlers.

But EO1 is missing a massive amount of QoL so it's not easy to get into.
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>>175846420
No, don't believe autists
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>>175846420
Sometimes it's just nice to see the original game. The originals have a lot of charm to them, even if the QoL features are missing. Also class and skill balancing is fairly different.
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>>175846420
you get to understand where the memes come from, like mediko going yandere with her mallet
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>>175848087
no one cares about medislut
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>>175785052
I do not know, I forgotten what happiness is.
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>>175849840
good
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>>175849840
>>175850087
You don't need to localize your games if your entire fanbase suicides out of desperation.
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>>175851724
exactly
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Arianna a cute
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>>175853586
>Mary Sue
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>>175853923
no bully
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>>175853586
>hook nosed drunk
Not sure if it should make Arianna that happy that a random creep that never exchanged a word with her gets hard every time she comes by.

After defeating the Calamity even Fafnir had enough of her crying and blasted off towards bikini babes and cocktails.
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>>175853923
Her name is Arianna, not Mary.
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>>175854218
Arianna Sue?
But I thought her last name was "of Caledonia" or something.
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>>175854603
it's arianna the hedgehog
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>>175854838
Doesn't look like her.
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>>175854838
Is she related to the forest Hegdehog of the events in the first stratum?
He is a real bro so if they are a family that would make Arianna better by accosiation.
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>>175855309
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