/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

I hate Megaten!

After getting into a discussion of SMT with some people from my school, I've realised that I've found the only Devil Children fan in the world.

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Rate my girlfriend

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>>175582864
Chaos/10

>>175582864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PV42OEhRIs

What do you want SMT HD to be?

>>175583620
SMTV

>>175583620
The best game ever made.

>>175582096
Play on WAR sicne Conflict is just easy. It's one of those "japs think we are to dumb so our normal is their easy"


Also got my friend into SMT via DDS and he is in the last boss but he says it's kicking his ass way to hard. Its been a while since I played DDS but was the last boss even that hard? I remember killing her after 4 tries or something.

>>175583620
An idol game

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I want to fuck Lena!

>>175583620
Odin's life as he attends high school.

>>175583764
Both DDS final bosses were easy and anti climatic as fuck. He just needs his party members with the elemental Absorb skills and some high damage dealing skills coupled with Charge/Concentrate. Dekaja and Dekunda are a must as well obviously.

Finally got around staring to play Devil Survivor Overclocked.
Had heard cries about the voice acting, but I assumed it was just the Internet overreacting to things, lacking voice acting has never been a real issue for me.
And then my ears spontaneously started bleeding.

>>175584197
Both DeSus have some really PS1-era shit quality VA. Dunno what Atlus USA was smoking when they OK's those.

My demon compendium is at 84% in Strange Journey. How long until I have 100%?

>>175584375
I'd say you got about 16% to go.

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So I'm an hour or so into Persona 2, around when the game starts going and you start encountering demons in the school.
So, basically you can have conversations with demons, but you can't let them join you as personas or anything?
Also, why does it seem like demons and personas are common knowledge? Like when you go to the Raidou Detective Agency, one of the detectives is noted as being a devil summoner, and one of the rumonermongers is known for having a persona.
I haven't played Persona 1, and the only Devil Summoner game I've played is Soul Hackers, and demons seemed to be unknown to the public in that game.
So is the worldbuilding just lazy? Or is it just "lmao rumors coming true"

>>175584375
When you get the last 16%.

>>175584375
16%?

>>175584320
I wonder how original DeSus sold on DS. I could assume that some man with a suit and a chart that says "expected sales" forced team to pick up voice actors that work for breadcrumbs.

>>175583620
Translated on day 1.

>>175582864
>>175583016
>Asherah
>not Tiamat

>>175584514
I think that all Persona users in P2 are ether directly story related, or P1 characters.
And I think it's implied that Persona 2 (and thus 1) is set in same universe as Devil Summoners, which explains the Kuzunoha detective agency, where obviously the boss would be Demon Summoner.

>>175583905

Dream big anon

>>175582864
Your dick is too small to please her

>>175584496
>>175584534
>>175584536
>16% is a measure of time

>>175585659
If that mattered lesbians wouldn't exist

>accidentally saved over my only SMT1 save state at the title screen

FUUUUUUUCK MY MANUAL SAVE IS SO FAR BACK

I'm not redoing that shit should I just move on to SMT2?

>>175585751
I don't think you can measure that in time. It all depends on the missing demons.

Hell, you could be missing just Slime or something and it could take you 20 fucking hours to get one.

>>175585751
Every 0.1% you spend wasting time, you could've finished the compendium.
16% isn't a long period to do it in
Just a couple hours of rank up/down fusions anon

>>175585859
>Not making backups of saves and making a hard save when you stop playing for the day

>>175585973
I was playing it on my phone that would be such a hassle

Anyone else think dungeon crawlers are a huge pain in the ass but can't stop playing them?

>>175584536
>>175584197
What makes me kinda mad is that 4 and final's VAs were pretty fucking good and they got some big names like mercer, cass lee morris, and more

They just deliberately handwaved all that shit for a spinoff, I guess

>>175587882
That's really shame also, as I think that Devil Survivors are pretty strong games in some regards.
I generally like stories told through characters, and DeSus basically take story ideas from mainline and add lot more characters in them. That's something I'd love to see more.

did >>175559364 ever upload the .cia's?

i was planning on making them myself, but if someone had them made already that would be great

i bet you fags never heard of the Kazfiel boss fight in SMT1 at Tokyo Tower

>>175588271
Considering they remade AND added alot of content to both DeSu 1 and 2 I am sure we will get a DeSu 3 in a bit. I just hope its more like the first then the second. Problem with the second is that the cast did not take what was going on as serious as the first one.

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Beat Stephen on War the other day, so now its time to do it on Apoc diffuilcty, what kind of demons do I need to have and any strategies and items? I got the endure ring and the reflect physical chest piece. I plan to farm some Relics of revives as well just in case

>>175591907
Just level to 150 and spam normal attacks

>>175584629
Big Vagina/Boobs > Mechanical Vagina/Boobs

>>175591907
Bring 2 dedicated buff demons, preferably something from chironupu/krishna/david/cleo/xi wangmu/angel (white wings)

Bring a demon with dual pleromas in a specific element, high affinity, pierce, charge/concentrate, and dekaja/dekunda, and a lot of hp/mp . Satan, matador, lucifer, metatron, and the like are all good for this

Ultimately, though, it is up to luck. Just one crit will basically spell game over

>>175591603
The waifu in DeSu 2 weren't too bad at least, you could play as one cheeky motherfucker.

I just hope they give us a good option to make money to fuse shit.

>>175586430
I love dungeon crawlers because of how painful and sadistic they can be sometimes.

>>175592823
Both DeSus have good waifu quality, depending on what you're looking for of course. I just hope DeSu 3 has decent writing.

>Mem Aleph is the "all-mother"
>Mem Aleph spells "ma"

Shin Megami Tensei x Junji Ito

>>175593189
ما
מא

>>175593009
The whole Triangulum campaign was pretty nice, if a little too gratuitous with the waifus and the teasing.

I'd be nice if they continued along that line and maybe increase the numbers of days instead of sticking to a single week. It's not enough time to make the characters endearing.

>>175592726
6tiddies>2 tiddies

>>175593754
8 boobs. Satan was the one with 6 boobs

>>175593490
I still haven't played through Triangulum Arc. I'm still digesting my playthrough of the normal campaign.

I'd wager they intend on having a tight schedule to save the day part of the DeSu spin-offs as a sort of theme. But the days don't matter in the end. They can just cram more content per day and then an extra day to show the aftermath of your choices.

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>>175593873
2 enormous soft tiddies > 8 cold mechanical tiddies

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>>175593873
>8 boobs
You are like babby

>>175592757
>>175592757
Got it thanks my man.


Also does any one have the timeline photo connecting every game? Ik it's fan theory but I think it's kinda cool.

>>175593375
Junji Ito's stories are mostly just "you did the wrong thing fuck you" and then you die so it doesn't work for the game.

Hellstar Remina is the closest it should ever come

>>175594864
He's gotta mean junji Ito's art, right?

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>>175594227
>cold mechanical tiddies with nipple fuck holes for each
>tentacles
Where the fuck is better resolution artwork?

>>175595530
>300x353

That's already higher resolution than the 3DS can handle

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>>175595530

Female protagonist.

>>175597723
>tfw no fem/gay option in P5 so I can never knock up best boy Yusuke

Suffering.

>>175597892
He's a bland character.

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>>175597723
who fights with her thighs

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>>175597723
She's already here.

>>175598045
k

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Starting Nocturne in a moment, should I do Normal or Hard for a blind first playthrough?

>>175598530
Hard is a hassle with increased shop prices and other annoying stuff.
Not worth it in my book.

>>175597723
Play if.

FUCK MIDORI

>>175599180
Gladly

>>175598530
Hard imo. Normal is very easy when you aren't completely new to Megaten games, there will be zero tension there. Hard Mode triples the shop and compendium costs but it's honestly not that big of a deal unless you want to get absolutely every magatama as soon as it becomes available. Eventually you will have plenty of money for everything regardless

>>175599540
Nocturne hard mode is unplaytested piece of garbage.

>>175598530
Normal first

Then hard with this https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/

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>>175598362
>draw a boy (female)
>call it a boy (amle)

Fucking Japan

So how many of you have read the DDS novels?

>>175600103
Not really. It's a lot more balanced than Normal after you get out of the tutorial.
If you enjoy just shitting on random encounters and never having to pay much attention then sure, play on Normal.

>>175600336
I haven't
are they good?

For Devil Survivor 3 what would you all want to see improved?

>>175600428
Question. Does hard make normal fights harder in any other sigificant way than requesting player to exploit weakness more and to use buffs/debuffs more, which are basic standard tactics in the game already.

Because if it's so, then fights will be just going through motions just like in Normal difficulty, there just are more motions to go through.
Which makes the game just more exhausting to play, without actually making it more challenging in a interesting way. Making normal battles take longer means that the game will just be more tedious to play, even more so when increased shop prices drive to do more grinding.

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SMT femanon here; Persona MEN are far more attractive than SMTboiz, truth hurts. PERSONACHADS are strong, dominant, and virile. While SMT boy's are timid, cowardly, and submissive. Us SMT women are more masculine than modern SMT """men""", frankly.

>>175600818
>+ skills
>add Gun damage and split Mystic into Dark/Light
>Hard mode
>better maps
>speedier and more polished UI
>more Races and demons
>good story and writing
>no SL shit like in DeSu 2

Third Raidou Kuzunoha game when?

>>175601235
On Normal it very quickly gets to the point where there are no motions to go through since everything dies in a round of normal attacks.
Hard Mode in Nocturne increases the damage enemies deal by 20%, reduces the damage they take by 20%, increases their HP (how much depends on the enemy), and changes their skill usage to be much more aggressive.
Nocturne is a dungeon crawler, it's not something you play for the story. If you want the combat to get to the point where you don't have to worry about anything anymore and can just mash through to get to the next juicy story segment then it's probably not a game you'd like very much

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>>175601286
posting manliest protagonist

>>175600336
Up to about halfway in the second book.

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>>175601286
I feel like this is a really poor attempt at trolling because most women into SMT would probably be glad that SMT boys are the way they are. But, of course, this poster would not know that.

Honest opinion.

>>175601286
PLEASE BE IN ANTLIA

What's the best way to make money in SMT: A ?I'm one Undine away from Izanami.

Nocturne on hard is fun as fuck but I would not recommend it if it's your first smt desu. That and triple price tag is cancer

>>175599124
I can't.

>>175601286
w-would you like a lifestone

>>175601286
T O Y K O
O
Y
K
O

Should I wait for a sale or buy Apocalypse now?
I just finished 4 and wanted to play the next one, but then I noticed it was still full price.
I know I'm a mega jew, but for Christ' sake, 4 was on sale every couple of days

>>175602752
DLC
relics around minami sunamachi and the southeast world map

>>175603063
>hes still a buyfag when freeshop exists

PFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHA

>>175601582
I hope soon. I don't get why they haven't made it considering how popular action rpg's are now a days.

>>175603224
design does not speak to modern audience

>>175603224

I would kill for a Raidou 3. I absolutely love the setting, the jazz/sax/whatever music and the colorful characters although gameplay wasn't that good in vs souless army but they drastically improved it for vs king abaddon and I do wonder what kind of things they could do for a third game.

Maybe outsource the gameplay to Platinum games while the team behind the first two games handles story and characters? That would make it even more appealing to the masses.

>>175603063
Skip Apocalypse entirely, its literally Awakening of Dark Souls of Persona. Play PS2 ones instead.

>>175603970
>le Platinum Games is good maymay
Don't mesh megaten with these shallow buttonmashing flavor of the season slashers please.

>>175604232
I'll never understand this hate for Platinum

>>175604319
Anything that gets popular is going to be hated by contrarians on here.

>>175604232

But anon, what action game is not a button masher? Really, if it is about picking your poison, i would pick platinum over shit like let's say the kingdom hearts team

>>175604232
People will flock to the Platinium brand more than Atlus.

>>175604319
It's exactly how he said. These DMC-clones of theirs are pretty boring and monotonous games for kids who loves edgy emo/animeshit and 10 seconds long animations of protagonist showing off for no practical reason. Platinum stories are always kindergarten-tier garbage as well, the only thing these guys good for is great choreography that doesn't even make sense most of the time.

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>>175604713
Good. The more exposure Atlus gets the more shitty their games become. Nobody gives a shit about Platinum, they're on the verge of death after Scalebound fiasco and PC ports of retroshit like first Bayo is pretty indicative about that.

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>>175605049
SMT needs cripples

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>>175605549
???

>>175605663

So, what exactly is him? Dude seems to be in the right place at the right time regardless of space and time continuity

>>175605861
Megami Tensei.

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>Fought the Demifiend and his demons to a tie
>Has Pierce
>most fashionable outfit

is he the best SMT protag

>>175604017
Ignore this ignorant poster.
SMT:A was a decent SMT.

>>175606058

Best megaten indeed. Also travels through time and space as if it were natural for him and doesn't need computers or a demonic side to get his demons to follow him.

>>175605049

Are you saying that if Atlus became more mainstream their games would become shittier?

>>175606197
No, its waifupandering unbalanced animegarbage and you belong to /pg/ if you think otherwise.

What's considered the best version of SMT2? I'm getting more into imports lately and figure I should finally play it. I was thinking of getting the PS1 version but I hear the GBA has more content. Not sure if it's worth the downgrade in music and graphics though. I've also heard you can't get everything in that version if you don't have a copy of SMT1's GBA port but I don't know what I'd be missing out on there if it's true.

>>175605049

That would explain why persona went to shit with p3 as it become mainstream shit for casuals and anime waifufags

Is Demifiend the Chaos posterboy?

>>175606556

Good thing the mainline games are too hard for the casuals then.

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>>175606402
That basically what happened to every developer so far.

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>Queen Mab was blasted away!

>>175606787
Atlus is already shit because they added super easy mode in SMT4 and P5.

Wake up.

>>175606784

Even persona for all the effort they put to make the game incredibly easy is hard for the casuals. There's never shortage of casualfags bitching because the mc dying equals gameover or dying because they think status ailments and buffs are worthless as they usually are in other games

>>175606919
Who gives a shit, I play on Hard.
Waifufags pandering is the real problem.

>>175606919
between those games, surely you can find something better to bitch about than optional difficulty settings

>>175607114
I'll take waifu pandering over casuals.

>>175606787

Best little sidekicks for Raidou

>>175606919

>they added super easy mode in SMT4 and P5.

This actually made me wonder. Instead of dumbing down games why don't devs just put easy mode? It's an everybody wins scenarios. The casuals can play the game with no effort and the original fans play normally.

What's Nanashi canon combat style?

>>175606919
They also added Merciless mode, whats your point?

>>175607207
I never played Raidou much, but I remember there was this sad DROPPED Shuvuu in the underground. Raidou picked her up or something?

>>175607329
DEX

>>175607416

Merciless is just a second easy mode. With enhanced weakness hit damage, it becomes even easier and faster to kill enemies

>>175607569
That's Flynn

>>175607554

It was the underground passage below the mansion? I remember there was a Mov Shuvuu there, but I don't remember her lying alone and injured

>>175607762
>alone and injured
Lol what, I mean she said her abusive master dropped her there or some shit.

>>175607938
Must have been Demifiend.

>>175607710
Flynn is a heal slut

>>175607621
That doesn't help out against bosses at all though, they have no weaknesses and kill you much easier

>>175606919
CAN'T WAKE UP

>>175607621
You have no idea what you are talking about. That's only true for random encounters and mini-bosses and only if you swap to Merciless later on and don't play the whole game on it. You'll be so drastically underleveled you need any edge you can get if you play Merciless all the way through without spending hours grinding.

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So im playing SMT Devil Survivor and I was wondering if this is good for the 5th day. I dont know what happens next so i wanna be prepared.

>>175608091
>Nocturne
>Moh Shuvuu
I wish

Is there anything more satisfying in Strange Journey than going neutral, killing Zelenin and Jimenez and then gaming the password system to summon Judge Zelenin and Awake Jimenez to force them to obey you, a human?

>>175607329
sword to silently cut throats with

>>175610064
Going law killing Gore and Jimenez and summoning them to your party after sending them into a vacation trip to YHVH records desu

>>175610064
>>175612520

There's no demon ending where you kill everybody for no reason in Strange journey?

so IS Persona SMT?

>>175612825
yes, but not true SMT

>>175612825
It just features Jack Frost from the SMT franchsie.

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>>175612978

>>175612825
But, is SMT really SMT.

Makes you think.

>>175612825
it's the persona of smt

what more do you want???

>>175613252
when they translate the PS1 port of SMT1 maybe

sick of the encounters

Is the iOS version of SMT1 any good?

>>175613490
I did a complete neutral playthrough on it, it's serviceable. 15fps but the gameplay doesn't suffer for it. Widescreen mode works terribly for controls imo. It uses the PS1 OST with no way to swap to the SNES one, but it's based off the GBA port.

Persona is better than SMT I mean who wants to dungeon crawl 24/7? Are you a masochist?

>>175613869
SMT1 is an almost flawless game besides being able to send demons into shock too easily and the encounter rate

>>175613869
I only like P1 and PQ's gameplay so yeah.

>>175613937
I could point out few more issues.
Like the fact that you could just roll the credits after you get charm bullets.

>>175614120
Please continue

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>>175614120
>IV is very heavily inspired by I
>you could just roll the credits after you beat Medusa
Poetry. Yamai did it again.

>>175614197
Pretty sure it's UI and playability is beneath it's sequel.

Honestly it's been a while since I played SMT 1 and I think that most of my memories of it were written over by the last boss which was about seven years of watching while he every other turn punched himself and every other turn healed himself.

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Why is SMT2's normal battle theme so good?

Playing kmt and this theif wants me to give him all my money for a silver reef I need for hecate. Is this the only way or can I kick his ass later and get all my money back?

>>175614627
I prefer SMT I's.

>>175614627
most SMT2 music is ass compared to the 1st

>>175614865
you have to hand him the money i think

they obviously put this in because they know you'd have a shitload of money at that point

fuck mazurka

>>175614914
what about this part https://youtu.be/TjKrUc_EalM?t=28s

>>175615051
I like the battle theme per se, it's just that I found SMT I's to be a lot more catchier for some reason.

>>175614964
Wow how fucking lame. Like wow dude

>>175615584
don't worry though, making money is easy

also i think you're at the point where you can find the endgame equipment soon so it's not so bad

I'm about to play PQ. What kind of shit am I in for?

>>175615781
Is it possible to miss the equipment? Also I have not seen hecate yet and I don't have the robes to pass the sea of flames I how far am I into the game?

>>175616035
you have to find the robes in the sea of flames itself

for the endgame equipment just make sure to explore well and memorize clues

>>175616035
>>175616113
oh and i believe two endgame items can be bought in the final dungeon

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>>175615892
The Etrian Odyssey of Persona. Really, just that.

>>175616437
I thought Naoto was completely busted OP in PQ

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>Macabre uses Blight

>>175615892
A shitty EO game and a shitty Persona game rolled into one. Its great.

>>175616539
She's great to grind shit mobs but she's easily outclassed in terms of damage output against bosses.

>>175613869
>Are you a masochist?
Is that a rhetorical question?

so, does anyone have any (presumably ancient) experience running the SNES SMT games on a DS flashcart? I've got a newish R4, and was screwing around with it, and while the SMT games run fine speed/sound wise, they have all sorts of weird layer issues on SnemulDS (probably not spelling that right). Like in SMT you can't see any letter while you're picking your name, but KMT runs pretty playable, just without floor/ceiling textures. Did anyone pull this off on the original DS back when flashcarts were hot shit?

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>>175616679
>Hoodlum Horde uses Macca Beam

How is Devil survivor? I'm fine with SRPG but i saw it has lots of teenagers like persona and the starter guide says it has social shit like persona in the second game, and I really, really don't like social shit and retarded teenagers in my games.

Is the gameplay solid enough to diminish all those shitty factors? Are the teenager character more in line with SMT characters and not like those le epic school anime stereotypes persona shitters?

>>175617506
I doubt any of those emulators were ever worked on to a degree to run more obscure games correctly, smt and kmt work on snes9x for 3ds and mobile devices although.

>>175618069

Skip the second one. First one is great.

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>>175618069
Both are kind of easy for SRPGs. In 1, the retarded teenagers are setting-appropriate, trying to cope with the sudden apocalypse but no slice of life or romance bullshit whatsoever. Don't be put off by the characters who don't take it seriously at first.

2 is the opposite and the cast is much more about fanservice and gags with little regard for the fact that the rest of the world is gone.

>>175585859
How far are you into it?

>>175618278
>>175618945

Alright, I will give the first one a try, thanks for the advice.

>>175618278
Yeah, the second one is no good for serious gamers like us.

>>175615051
SMT 2 really felt like they wanted to do CD quality music so they opted for muffle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1MEOaTNz1A

>>175620420
I usually listen to the Sword of Justice arranged versions anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj4ArAaAZ8g

Seems 80s speed metal guitar and sick organ playing seems more fitting for Aleph kicking gods skulls in and such

>>175618197
Thanks, that's what I figured. My 2DS is too high firmware to hack so I guess my Wii will have to do. Maybe a SuperCard DSTWO Plus would do the trick.

>>175620119
smtg's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T_Freypy5A

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>>175621657
Too chill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TimJez_Jj6A

>>175621657
>>175621938
>implying this isn't /smtg/'s theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLcXXz01Tn8

>>175621657

Shit, and I thought the persona games had it bad with happy and cheerful music in the middle of serious shit.

>>175616113
That's pretty hardcore. Not as hardcore as losing all your money but still.

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>>175621657
What was his fucking problem?

>nocturne theme
https://youtu.be/QnS09oQNexA

>>175622231
Was it autism?

>>175622030
>not this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKMRad3df4A

>>175622192
Oh and is hecate in the sea as flames or well

>>175622349
>liking SMTIV enough to make it your avatar

Probably

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>>175622231
Who

>>175622465
nah the sea of flames has no actual boss (well purski is a miniboss)

hecate is really somewhere in mazurka, possibly the 5th floor of the 2nd part or something, i haven't played it in a while

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>>175622532
Flynn from the SMT IV series.

>>175622554
oh wait i'm a fucking idiot you fight set in the sea of flames

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>>175622783
Fucking Flynn

>>175622962

Oi

Waiting for inevetible gachapon

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>>175623573
Speaking of gachapon, I'm sad I maxed out charm before unlocking Akihabara and the maid café in P5. Maybe I'll try it in NG+.

>>175623717
I only visited it a couple times before I maxed charm. It was cute, but not a huge deal.

>Deep Strange Journey is released
>password summon system is removed and replaced with DLC

How mad does this make you?

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Tokyo Mirage Sessions confirmed to make an appearance in Deep Strange Journey!

>>175622335
>lyrics's actually tamer than Nocturne's OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmqbhyS-BK8

>>175624025
>Deep Strange Journey is released
>It's actually just a persona 4 re-release

How mad does this make you?

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>>175616679
Why does this shit do more damage than a Medium Strength physical attack? It fucks you up when used against you and fucks enemies up when used against them. And it has a chance of poison.

I thought it was some programming mistake, but since the skill is busted on both IV and SJ, I don't know anymore.

>>175624263
Thing is that has a 0% chance of happening while my scenario is pretty damn likely.

>>175624224
Should rename that pic to slavshit.png

>>175624025
Not much because I'm gonna pirate that shit. It's time to kill the 3ds for good, SMT deserves better.

>>175624476
3DS won't die until Nintendo decides to finally release its successor

>>175624586
The Switch seems to be both the 3DS and the Wii U's successor though

>>175588701
You don't need CIAs. Just get Snes9x and insert whatever rom you want to play into your SD card.

>>175624586

But switch is already its succesor. It was the final nail in weenie U and 3ds's coffin

>>175624732
>>175624798
I forgot that even existed. I thought WiiU was still the latest thing. Damn I'm finally getting old.

>>175624224
DEEPEST LORE

>>175624917
Did you miss that SMT HD will be on the Switch as well?

>>175625030
Obviously

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>>175624942
>DEEPEST LORE
>DEEP STRANGE JOURNEY

>>175625237
>Truly this was a deep strange journey
Woah

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Are SMT 1,2 and if... still playable?

>>175622554
>>175622913
Alright thanks my man I guess I am half way done with the game. Enjoyed it alot for a classic dungeon crawler with demons.

>>175626164
You can download their ROMs and play them right away.

>>175625237
Deep route is about blowing up other atlus universes confirmed.

>>175626164
No, every copy of those games was destroyed by YHVH

>>175626171
honestly it would be even better if it didn't grind to a screeching halt with mazurka and its enemies that resist absolutely everything

Alright I'm now level 37 with 200STR in SMT4A, what do I level now? MA for MP?

>>175626164
Depends on what you mean by playable. If you are coming from a hardcore dungeon-crawling fan, than its not too bad but if you are coming from just playing FF or Dragon Quest, than its pretty tough and you should end up using a GameFAQs to play it. Or skip it and watch an LP of it.

>>175626472
Agility and Luck

>>175626472
Str until 999

>>175626558
>>175626615
Does MA increase MP or not? I have only like 120 max which is shit trying to use buffs.

>>175626434
They are super weak to Hama and I have a few demons with that move plus heroine so its not that bad. the problem is that I can hardly recruit anyt of them and because you can't see the map of other floors other then the one you are on it makes navigating in Mazurka a pain.

>>175626686
no, accessories increase mp, usually.

why are you trying to buff with nanashi? just go charge + critical eye + strongest physical attack + strongest multitarget physical attack and then maybe magaon or some filler stuff.

>>175627000
you can't recruit any demons of the EVIL alignment, that's for sure

also there are those femme race enemies that are actually invulnerable to anything, i spent most of mazurka just running away from them

>>175627025
I'm using charge, poison claw +9 (waiting for a heavy damage phys move), javelin rain, tarukaja, Magaon and Media +5 for emergencies (getting molested on War). I'm just constantly running low on MP.

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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

vot foe it

>>175627492
why

I sure could use one of those life stones.
Hint hint

>>175627492
Why does Strange Journey have so many votes?

I've been out of the loop for a while, did Tokyo Mirage Sessions turn out to be any good?

>>175627806
>tfw life stones literally clog my inventory in SMT1

>>175627492
>debisama that low
>final over IV
/smtg/ is a disgrace

>>175612740
This was back when summoning demons and killing god was considered edgy enough for the fandom.

>>175627806
>cheat

>>175627806
>Gimme "that"!

>>175627264
the best thing to do is to just fuse up low level demons with skills that you have to easily get skills up to +9. try and get critical eye and replace tarukaja, it's really not needed.

if running low on MP is still an issue, there are apps that give MP while you walk and the like. you also might be running out of mp because poison claw isn't really that strong of a skill and you don't do as much damage on war to begin with. the earliest you get a demon with berserker god (the heavy damage phys attack) is by lord nandou, i believe, which is still a ways off, so maybe you could use something like oni kagura or fatal sword in the meantime

>>175624732
>The Switch seems to be both the 3DS and the Wii U's successor though
>tfw the dual screen format is forever kill

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>>175627914
>Final over IV

Sounds logical considering the mechanics's actually balanced and the designs not so fucked anymore

>>175627874
I unironically had more fun with TMS than with P5.

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>>175628373
>final
>balanced

>>175627914
The only disgrace here is that IV isn't at the bottom like the piece of shit game it is.

>>175627812
memegame

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>>175627806
>tfw use Life Stones for myself
Demons are smart. These things are useful at any point in the games, so they always take them away from you.

>>175628524
really great post, you sure showed him that final wasn't balanced.

>>175627492

>Neo persona that high

All that shit taste. Was it also posted in the persona general? Because if that were the case, i would understand all those casuals voting so hard for it

>>175627874
Dungeons like Digital Devil Saga
Plot like Persona with idolshit instead
Gameplay is kinda uniqueish but it's like Persona's AoA on steroids

>>175627961
An item?

>>175628554
Plot and setting are too good. English VA is probably some of the last to ever be so good since. I think only Digital Devil Saga has better voice acting.

>>175628636
Just look back at how much shitposters love to bait with P5. The difference from the first and the second place make it pretty obvious.

>>175628554
IV's great though you fag

Whenever disco comes on the radio I immediately think of Raidou. Thanks, Boney M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg

>>175628386
I won't shit on you too much for liking it, but I truly wish I could have enjoyed it as well. You accomplished what I could not.

>>175628729
Your virginity

>>175628631
Its not like you need to proove the roundness of the planet earth to everybody on every occasion. You're retard if you think that Final is better balanced than original IV.

>>175628636
I've only posted in smtg.
Unless someone else posted it in pg i dunno.
P1 is the best persona by the way.

How y'all niggas doing


I'm shit because Nyaa.se is dead

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>>175628881
>You accomplished what I could not
Therefore I am stronger than you, and so it is I who will proceed to defecate onto thee. You probably played it on easy, puss.

In KMT 1 and KMT 2 does INT effect negotiations? Luck effects crit I am guessing?

>>175629178
I didn't play it at all because it didn't fall into the category of something I thought I'd enjoy.

>>175629170
Sukebei is gone too ;_;

>>175629216
If you don't dump INT to the protagonist, you will lose your arm and become a trany.

Which is better gameplay-wise, Apocalypse or TMS?

Is Strange Journey good?

>>175629216
INT really does not matter except for the female partner

>>175629273
>>175629170
At least the databases are still there.

>>175629430
Its not that good

none of SMT is that good actually

play a different series

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>>175629545
Like Persona

>P5 is absolute shit
New info on V when?

>>175629540
woah woah woah

>>175629690
Yeah but only 1, 2 and Q.

>>175629720
>P5 is absolute shit

Said no one but the most desperate of SMTfags

>>175627492
no mt2 no vote

>>175629020
>prove the roundness of the planet earth to everybody
Well, I guess I have to do this now.

You're gonna tell me a game that has
>useless str builds because of how well dex scales with physical attacks
>can run every spell/attack on every demon with zero repercussions, even 'unique' skills
>braindead smirking system that's utterly retarded and makes some bosses like minotaur extremely hard for no real reason
>magic being clearly better than phys builds in every regard
>shitty partner system that DELIBERATELY fucks you over in some fights like asura
>mostly a useless assortment of demons at endgame because demons that you grind up from lower levels benefit so much from the stat booster apps, also basically makes you buy the exp DLC by extension
>virtually no hard boss fights even on hard difficulty (which is locked on 1st playthrough for whatever reason) because there are zero gimmicks or anything remotely interesting to almost everyone of them outside of different weaknesses to exploit and then a couple almighty spammers at endgame
>no reason to buy new equipment because A. the game hands out the best shit in the game to you unless you want to grind macca for the ginza stuff and B. it doesn't do anything to your stats anyway and you will barely use your normal attack, ever
>can simply get up to 8 skills right from the get-go
I could go on, but you think that all this (which was all fixed in final) makes it 'better balanced' than final?

I don't really expect any sort of real reply to this, but I did need to bitch about 4's gameplay a little bit

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>>175629793
>personababbies

>>175629793
t. personacuck
Literally everybody here agree that P5 is boring shit. Your series still is a shallow visual novel garbage and no amount of demons model assets will change that fact.

>>175629963
Speak for yourself.
Do you have any reason to hate Persona other than "I like SMT more than Persona, SO I HATE PERSONA >:("?

>>175629947
>>175629963

Pathetic.

>>175629690
Isabeaus new haircut looks great!

>>175630050
>>175629963
I dont know my man seen alot of good praise come out of here.

Atleast he VN stuff is decent/good this time mainly because its, other then the school shoter and the cast, all adults and who knew adults would be more interesting? P4 can go fuck itself with a rake though and P3's story is only good after the half way point but the combat is fucking pure ass.

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>>175629690
>Makotofags

>tfw I've enjoyed every localized MegaTen released
It's great not having your opinions influenced by the internet.

>>175629963
>>175630115
Fellows, please.

We all have to work together and beat up P4 fags for normalizing the series.

I like most of the megaten games I played

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>>175630186
>being this mad over Makotoposting

SAD!

>>175629761
They're from last year, but it's better than nothing.
Nyaa normal: https://ln.steamy.moe/vtzzbc.sqlite
Sukebei: https://ln.steamy.moe/gsipey.sqlite

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>>175630186
Diet Maya is the best girl anyways.

>>175630330
P5 was the first Persona game to sell as much as P1 and P3 was quite popular as well.

>>175630373
Overrated girl, she's nowhere near that good.

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>>175630319
I have enjoyed ~most~ localized/translated Megaten games with a few exceptions but I still think those I didn't enjoy as much have some positive qualities to them and can see why other people might enjoy them more than I did.

>>175630186
>>175630373
>>175630416
>>175630454

>>>/pg/
I don't mind Persona discusions when its about gameplay/story/etc but waifufaggotry goes to /pg/

>>175630319
is this general aimed at mainline or megaten in general? if the latter, why not name it megaten general?

>>175630050
Trash pacing.

I don't even need to mention other shit like pandering and absolute garbage hackshino's story full of contradictory plot elements, since P5 quickly becomes unbearable borefest because of this shit pacing. You literally spend 1-2 hours in dungeon, then you get your easy as fuck boss fight and proceed to spend 4-6 fucking hours of RL time talking with NPCs, watching cutscenes full of traditional japanese talk about fucking nothing and listening to absolute dogshit soundtrack of nuMeguro.

I won't even mention how One More was never a good system, the gameplay part is easy as fuck.

>>175629170
Why aren't you using irc son of man

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This is my wife, Sadayo Kawakami. Say something nice to her!

>>175630175
>other then the school shoter and the cast
Persona 6 about american school full of niggers, bullying and shooting would've been a good start for this series improving.

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Reminder that P4G id literally yhe most megami tensei game in decades

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>>175630476
But we talk about waifus here all the time. Demon waifus, mainline waifus, devil survivor waifus. Even Flynn and Nanashi.

>>175630592
I'm going to marry kawakami

>>175630592
you and your imaginary wife can fuck off back to /pg/

or better yet, into a pit of acid, which is where you fags belong

>>175630716
Demon waifus are a-ok
Persona waifus have their own general and need to fuck off

>>175630679
>if you reverse an slink you kill them
Noice

>>175630592
She makes some nice curry.

>>175630571
Too lazy and autistic to join a circlejerk

>>175630592
Worst girl

>>175630508
MegaTen in general. Even some non-MegaTen games like Maken X/Shao and Catherine.

I think we named in Shin Megami Tensei General because at the time, every (except Persona 1 and Last Bible) localized MegaTen had the Shin Megami Tensei named slapped onto it for marketing purposes. That changed once AtlusUSA dropped the SMT name in P4G and the spin-offs.

>>175630508
Persona is not megaten, its megami ibunroku, so you should back the fuck off matey.

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>>175630476
I can't /pg/ is offended just because mai waifu plays shogi on the church

>>175630916
Name a better girl in P5. Only Tae comes close.

>>175631008
>Persona is not megaten
That's literally wrong though. Persona is not Shin Megami Tensei, but it is part of the Megami Tensei franchise.

Every girl is mai waif

>>175631009
I want to shit on her face and slit her throat afterwards, she's so ugly.

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>>175631031
All of them

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>>175630949
>last bible
Man like this game is so fucking meh and would be a bit better if the used actual demon sprites sine the "monster" sprites are so fucking shit and boring.

>waifufags ruined /pg/ and are now ruining /smtg/

*record scratch* was right

>>175631009
Shoji-san would be an amazing femdom

>>175631091
No, its not. Its not MEGAmi TENsei. Its that simple. Fuck off back to /pg/ shitspouting memer.

Why is DeSu 2 full of teasing? Poor Makoto always bite easy baits.

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>someone mentions P5
>suddenly it's like if a floodgate opened
Like clockwork.

But I can't say I'm surprised, since it works every time.
You fags need to learn null bait.

On the subject of Persona and P5, why is the ONLY HD model that looks weak Metatrons?

>>175631271
Persona has always been allowed but waifuposting has not. P5 is more like a SMT game then DDS (recruiting and fusion) am not saying its a better or worse game but it does have more in common with SMT and IS apart of Megami tensei. Just because the fanbase is cancer does not mean its not MT

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>>175631125
>actually being that edgy

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>>175631091
No, persona is megaibun, not megaten.
No alignments, no demons, no shit.
Its not megaten at all.

>>175631482
>No demons
>no negotions
>what is P1 P2 and now P5
DDS does not have alignments either.

>>175631573
There's no demons on P5 let this meme die. they are shadows inb4 muh models P3/4 also had models when you summon your persona.

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>>175631573
>what is P1 P2 and now P5
Shadows? They looks like a demons to you?
>DDS does not have alignments either.
Try harder next time, lmao.

>>175630949
I've been around for a year and a half, it seemed to me people were only tolerating spin-offs since there's no other place to have a discussion about them on the site. At least, I don't have to bump the thread with lines from Tokyo Revelation anymore.

>>175631737
>>175631774
Yes but the enemies have demon models and being able to recruit them makes them functionally the same as a demon. Would have been much better if they were just demons but its a step in the right direction.

>>175631916
I let the shitposts out Kojiro

>>175631360
>null bait
>implying /smtg/ doesn't already have Drain Bait

So I heard personabros said you can be megaten if there are references to franchise and shit so we like have an amrita and zan and jack frost n shit pls gib acknowledgement TMS is megaten I swear me mom

>>175631476
is this loss

>>175632269
No

>>175631774
P1 and P2 LITERALLY HAVE DEMONS