/fhg/ - For Honor General

Should I get the fuzzy hat or antler Kensei outfit?

Second for Warden plate armor

>>175426009
Everybody have the fuzzy hat, try something more uncomon

>>175426009
Antlers

>tfw everybody used all their steel on crates while i just ran around with default gear and saved my steel knowing that there would be new gear

>>175426037
N E V E R E V E R

Guys help, I restarted everything here : computer, internet, etc

I still can't join a game

>>175426259
> I still can't join a game
Good, you've achieved that state which all of use desire yet few attain

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Old thread died, what the fuck is wrong with my raider?

>>175426651
Horns
Decorative toy axe

>>175426651
he's not black

Also your helmet is ugly

>>175426651
Shitty axe
Shitty ornament
Gross colors

How do you switch targets while in toggle-lock on mode?

>>175426956
alt

>>175427106
Controller?

>>175427157
idk then, google it dude

>>175426947
>>175426759
Spent too much dosh on collecting the vandrad axe
Raider t3 helms only come in gold.

Crow or deathguard?

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>>175427205
google this ya damn jap

>>175427157
R3 or lock on button again

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>>175426651
It's not a Kensei.

>>175427347
>raider t3 helms only come in gold
no they dont

>>175427393
>not using the antlers

come on duder. you got the perfect color scheme for them too

>>175427412
Taben helm is almost identical to avaris helm.

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Need to get more gear for a third, more vanilla setup. How'd I do?

>>175427370
Thanks

>>175427645
right is a cluster-fuck of things going on, delete it
Left is pretty good, but the face engraving is shit on that helm
Also give right's axe to left
Your welcome fag

>>175427552
ik that but they dont all come in gold

So oddly enough For Honor got me into fighting games

How is Guilty Gear Xrd REVELATOR?

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>join skirmish
>Nothing but a premade squad of kniggers ganking you as soon as you spawn
>LITERALLY no counter because of lawbringers hilariously overpowered impale move
>Conq just stunlocks you against the wall
>pk and warden only there to spam heavy and steal the kill.
What a garbage mode.

Why is feint in such a bad button?
L1 is way better.

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>>175428085

Pretty good id wait for a sale though

>>175425672
Isn't macroing bannable though?

Also, I don't have a controller

Haven't followed the game since testing phases. Have they made ranked playlists yet?

>>175428435
n o p e
o p e
p e
e

>>175428479
Ty, anon. Honestly surprised it has lasted this long without it. Did they ever fix the mass connection issues? Balance? Like, any improvements?

>>175428572
Games improved a surprising amount. Balance is improved but still not great, same with connections. Orders have been redone to be less obnoxious and steel rewards have been buffed.

Ubi ain't leaving this game to die, but they're not super quick at supporting it either. Apparently this is a slow burn type of game.

>>175428572
They are currently making a ranked system

>>175428572
Its P2P no fixing that
Warlord is god tier everyone else mediocre
Valk conq and nobushi are unplayable.
Lb is strong
Orochi deflect very strong
Raider is technically the best.

So, can anyone with a macro to AFK farm in For Honor help me out? I have 0 experience with macros, tried using AutoHotKey but for some reason it doesn't detect that the game is open.

>>175428761
Right on. I suppose I'll sit it out until I see a really nice deal on it.
I loved the core gameplay but it was obnoxiously frustrating throughout the testing phases to play and easy to learn what was overpowered in terms of balance.
I can forgive the connectivity because "muh tech/alpha/beta" but when the Open Beta was so close to release and problems had gotten worse I couldn't bring myself to piss 60 bucks on it.

>>175428974
>valk and nobushi unplayable
I understand conq got gutted, but valk and nobushi are serviceable at least.

>>175428974
>Raider is technically best
when did this fucking meme start? Im rep 12 with him, and sure i wreck people but come on

>>175428849
Any word when that will be out or is it still "sometime this year"?

>>175429075
Because tech. Played as intended Raider is garbage. Played with all the bugs in the game, Raider is an unparriable god.

>>175429075
Turns out he get a free overhead heavy if you parry assassin light, and he's the only with a special guardbreak system that give him the ability to tech any and all guardbreak, even if you were middodge.

>>175427368
>we don't have this armor for warden
why

>>175429242
Yeah, and if you parry an Assassin heavy you get jack shit because the GB zone can be teched. Better hope there's a wall nearby.

Unless the wall is too close by, then they'll recover before you can heavy.

Raider is an inconsistent mess. His 90 damage punish is so fucking finicky to get to work. Especially compared to 'Zerkers, its just bad. Does less damage, is much more difficult to pull off, and gives your enemy a free GB on you if they happen to recover from exhaustion while on the ground.

Raider is bad.

>>175428235
??

>Not using L1 for GB

>>175429054
Valk has no mix up and her lights are very easy to parry.
Nobushi has safe mixup but a weak one

>>175429075
Raider is THE parry king
He can gb during dash which fucks over any 50/50's
Outside of duels he does a fuckton of damage and has good light attack chiping.

>>175429540
>fucks over any 50/50's
Not Law's. He can cue up a Long Arm after the shove, and if you dodge early like it was a light it'll catch you. He can also guess what side you're going to and heavy from that direction.

>>175429534
Why would I?
Square is perfectly fine for that.

>>175429242
Wrong
Overhead light parry works on everyone but warlord and conq, there are some odd cases with valk and nobushi but they are rare.

>>175429640
Wrong
Raider cannot get an overhead off a light parry unless it's against an assassin.

For
Some
Fucking
Reason

>>175429379
> Knights design heavily focused on medieval europe
> DUDE ROMAN CENTURION LOL

>>175429439
With normal throw distance it works on left heavy always with negative it works on any guard.

Question. Debuff resistance. Is it helpful? Trying to decide what to prioritize on my helmet

>>175429637
jesus christ whats wrong with you

>>175429872
>playing modes with gear

to get it off, you need to throw them straight behind you, and you need to have already had your guard left. if your guard is top during the throw, you can't get it off: the zone followup can be parried.

>>175429816
I have never seen anyone but warlord conq and nobushi/valk on certain guards block the overhead.

>>175429823
I dont see the problem knightfag

>>175429982
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

>>175428235
>>175429534
>>175429637
Personally use
L1-GB
L2-Dodge
X-lockon
Square-Feint

I main kensei and feel you need dodge somewhere else or you have to get arthritis playing with claw grip.

guys how long do you think this game will live? Is anyone still going to be playing by the 2nd set of heroes?

>>175429886
What are you on about?
There is more than enough time to cgb, so why would I change?

>>175430164
Damn, that would have been so fucking clean if you parried his heavy and just wallbanged him for the kill.

Good run regardless.

>>175430132

As long as the devs keep putting updates out

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>>175429176
ohh buuuugs

>>175429242
yeah i knew the light parry thing

>>175429540
you have to be parry king with Raider. he doesnt have many tools otherwise. After you parry its almost usually a free side heavy.

Is this why i see so many shitters playing Raider now? I always surprise people when i play them with Raider cause they expect anther shitter, but im patient and my attacks do massive fucking damage. It's fun dealing 94 damage on people or killing people in 3 hits and watching them flip

>>175430132
Pc is donezo
Xbox maintains very high activity in dom or 4v4 modes and high in the other.
No idea about ps4.

>>175430378
PS4 is about the same as Xboner. Very High-High in 4v4 modes, brawl is high-medium, duel is usually low

>>175426651
Don't use the unique axe, ever. In this instance it also clashes horribly with your armor and colours.
This is more of a personal opinion too but Kanon/Polaris chest pieces don't usually look too good overall, especially when in a complete set.
You also should use a better matching helmet with that ornament or vice versa. Polaris or Dolynn look much better than Kanon with that ornament.
Deathguard looks much better than the current horns on Kanon.

Rule of thumb for Raider fashion: stick with one theme at a time and always be more inclined to mix sets than to match them.

>>175430378
PS4 is still pretty active, normally have no problem finding games, even late at night.

>>175430132
People has been saying this game will be dead in a week since release.
While it DID loss a really huge portion of its playerbase it's still doing relatively fine on all platforms

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>>175430287
>sold all my other axe pieces
>vandrad completely clashes with raiders rugged look
>literally no way to make vandrad look good.

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>>175430541

Would we have to move to /fgg/ if this general ever dies?

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Its funny when Warlords start headbutt spamming when everything else they have failed.

It stops being funny after they actually kill you with it

>>175430761
But that's the only opener they have.

>>175430851
This argument would hold water if he didn't have more openers than over half the cast.

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>>175430734

Dont suggest something like that

ever again

>>175429874
Debuff is a priority but Revenge Duration can be more important.
Things like Bleed, Stun, and other effects from Feats that effect your hero like will be much less effective with high debuff.

This comes at the cost of Exhaustion Recovery though, which if you're not careful about Stamina management can leave you vulnerable for long periods of time if you don't manage it carefully.
It really comes down to what sorts of passive feats your character has.

>>175430734

/fgg/ apparently likes this game shockingly

>>175430934
So tell the other openers, because as far as I know everything else can be easily blocked.

Idea:

What about a new character that's a dog?

Has the network managed to get even worse?
I haven't been able to finish a single match yet

>>175431158

Did someone let /r6g/ in here?

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>>175430672
Only good thing about Vandrad is dat dagger pommel

>>175431142
The point is most characters don't even have one you mong

>Conq's bash is garbage in neutral
>PK only has fast attacks and flicker
>Law's shove is garbage in neutral

>Raider has nothing
>Berserker has nothing
>Valk has nothing

>Ken has nothing
>Shug now has nothing
>Orochi only has fast attacks and flicker
>Nobushi has nothing

Warlord has 500ms side lights, headbutt, and a decent flicker.

Suck it up and don't act like you're not playing the easiest class in the game.

>>175431034
This would be for the Lawman. I run out of stamina a lot so I want to prioritize exhaustion but also I'm sick of getting tossed by a gb then not being able to get a block on time so I'm torn

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>>175430672
just have all the skulls like me

https://soundcloud.com/sensei-ion/ion-kensei-prod-by-soundlord_diegesis

If you dont play black kensei you are a bad kensei

>>175431368
Why are you acting like you can't dodge the headbutt? And flicker is a bug not a character move lmao

And btw I play Warden.

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>>175431627

This is actually pretty good

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>>175431632
Oh, you're just fishing for (You)'s

I haven't said shit about playing against headbutt. I'm just saying that it's more than most people get.

And I know what flickering is you dolt, but it's still a part of the game and is still a safe opener for the classes that can use it. The fact that I included it is in your benefit because it gives more people safe openers. Take it out and you've got even less of an argument.

Isn't it past your bed time by now?

>>175425892
Got the game today
Had fun with the fat Japanese guy until i leveled up a bit and started fighting nothing but bitches with two swords who kill me before i can land one hit, still managed to 1 hit one with my grab thingy when i was almost dead but i guess i should move to someone who can attack a bit faster and with more range, any recommendations for a newb?

>>175431627
I play a Hispanic Kensei. Can you find me music for that?

>>175432042
Warlord is the easiest place to start. He doesn't have a garbage move in his whole kit.

>Literally everyone in duels is Orochi, Warden or Warlord now

What the FUCK did Ubisoft think would happen when they buffed Warden and gave Orochi an extra, super powerful defensive option. Jesus Christ this is unbearable. You literally can't hurt Warlord, and Orochi and Warden are this hideous 50/50 nigger guessing game.

>>175432384
Play Raider.

>>175432424
Give me advice before you make me dedicate myself to that, my dude.

>>175432054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLt0aBzhRN0

Game sucks but the soundtrack is nice.

>>175432042
PLAY RAIDER. (I'm bias {rep 12}) but seriously. Raider has very little tools and will FORCE you to learn fundamentals (parries, Gb counter, timing, using your attacks effectively, etc). He's very easy to learn, and once you learn him you can play anyone + the special moves that they have. He'll force you to be patient (if you want to use him effectively) this means don't just GB and throw everyone, because that way is how people think how he should be played. This is fake news bro. I promise Raider is a good place to start


>>175432384
>>175432424
Raider is a great counter for roach. Parry any of his moves and its a 90% guaranteed side heavy. the other 10% is people who are fast enough to roll out of the way

>>175432510
Parry and deal a shit ton of damage.
Destroy Roach because you can top heavy off of his lights and kill him in three.
Destroy Warden because you're immune to 50/50s because you can GB tech even during dodges.
Destroy anyone who exhausts themselves because you can unblockable on command, and can feint it.
Still lose to Warlord because everyone loses to Warlord.

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>>175429823
>being such a fucking knightcuck deus vultard you aren't happy to have a badass centurion on your team

Disgusting. So many knights have said this when Centurion was first hinted at prelaunch. You guys don't deserve the glory.

>>175432659
>Still lose to Warlord because everyone loses to Warlord
lmao
but this dude is so right. Killing people in 3 hits is so satisfying.
>Parry, side heavy, side heavy, zone, execution

>>175432659
What do I do after parrying in general? What are my best options? I mainly play Raider so I am used to parrying, the only issue I have with Roach is the fucking flicker means I have to double-predict his lights.

>>175432659
what is teching?

>>175432820
Depends. Heavy parry, GB and either wallsplat for a side heavy or zone. Zone isn't guaranteed against assassins.

If you parry a light, side heavy. If they're an assassin, top heavy.

If it's a Nobushi Heavy or something and they're out of GB range, I don't think you get shit. Maybe a light from whatever guard you were already in.

>>175429823
We knew they were the Knight precursors from the campaign, this isn't news.

>>175432820
the flicker, and top lights are a Raiders bane my friend-o. After parry, go for side heavy (except against warlord or conq, cause shield). after the side heavy gfo for a zone, the animation is slower but it does more damage than the regular one. Mix in some stun tap to throw people off, and lights into side heavies also work.

>>175432927
Counter GB. Term has gotten a bit convoluted because now we have GB tech, like throw tech, and then you have bugs that get called tech.

>>175432384
Parry Warden's top light, it's really easy. Keep guard left so when they zone, free GB. Easy punishes. If you're playing Raider/Zerker, you can punish it/counter it. Otherwise you'll have to interrupt it or prevent it from happening in the first place.

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I haven't played since march so what's changed. I hear law is okay now but did they fix pk

>>175433109
Law is aids now, PK has gotten some slap-on-the-wrist nerfs. I'm not going to run down the past month of balance changes, fucking google it or something ya damn jap.

>Someone just tried to tell me Warlord has a 50/50

Tell me how retarded he was, /fhg/. When I tried explaining the difference between "op bullshit" and a 50/50, he quit.

>>175433416
he DOES have a 50/50
when they're out of stamina you can either dash charge them or gb them off of a sprint

>>175433483
That's not a 50/50, since the headbutt is reaction dodged. The timing is fucked up and hard, but you can do it.

>>175432767
Those are the faggots that hopped onto the Viking bandwagon. Please ignore them. I'm ecstatic to get Papa Centurion on our team.

>>175433537
You need to work on your reading comprehension, buddy.

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>>175433178
Just explain how I can cancer as lawbringer in 2 sentences

>Be in a long and hard fought Dom match
>Enemy Roach quits as soon as his team starts breaking
>The whole game has a meltdown and I get kicked
Ubisoft just needs to fucking make it so that if you quit a game you get a 3 day ban. I'm sick of this dumb bullshit.

>>175433639
Blocking guarantees a shove
Shoving makes the followup light too fast to be blocked, but slow enough to be dodged
Mix up shoves into pokes with shoves into GBs

You get a fucking 50/50 off of every block.

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>>175433753
Is R2 still useless

>>175433537
READ you cretin

i said dash charge, not headbutt

>>175433886
R2 is the button you use to AD MORTEM light parries. It's also the button you use to parry in the first place.

>Try to play Raider against Warden
>Dodge his shoulder charge
>He GBs me
>I can't tech it 90% of the time

Ha ha? XD? Yeah, fuck this. I am never playing against Wardenfags ever again. This is unbearable.

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>>175433969
Parry r2's go straight to the unblockable now? What about parrying heavies

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>>175433109
>>175433639
>>175433886
>avatarfagging the blandest girl in the blandest game on the market

>>175434073
Problem might just be you, friend. Dodge GB is literally a part of Raiders kit. Unless you're getting grabbed out of the very beginning of your dodge, you should be able to tech it.

>>175433619
>>175433949

The guy I was playing against said the headbutt was a 50/50, not the charge. His charge is only a situational 50/50 too that nobody uses.

>>175434142
>What about parrying heavies
parrying heavies isn't guaranteed unless whoever you're fighting is braindead.

>>175434186
Tried it in 2 matches against Wardens. It only worked a tenth of the time or something, I counted. It simply doesn't work reliably.

>>175433886
YOU CAN USE IT OFF A SHOVE TO MIX IT UP, IF THEY DODGE EXPECTING A LIGHT IT WILL HIT THEM.

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>>175434165
>bait
>insulting delicious brown
Typical tricks there schlomo

>>175434142
No you have to top heavy right after a parry. But only light parries are guaranteed. If you're light parrying and there's a wall behind the opponent, impale and top heavy does more dmg. Parrying heavies depend on the opponent. Light riposte now stuns and all parry riposte dmg got a bit of a buff. If you can grab, it's still the best punish for heavy parry.

>>175434395
sorry for caps

>>175434349
>one google search later
twitch tv/videos/127223989

You're absolutely right, it's not reliable at all.

Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean a goddamn thing

>>175434398
her mom is vastly superior

>>175434398
>calls it bait
>still replies
que
>calls those god awful sfm models delicious brown
Pharahposters truly are more autistic than the 5 people that unironically like the street shitter

>>175434349
i think you might just be garbage

>>175434815
>>175434575
Tell me the timing or how I am "garbage". If I dodge when he starts winding up the charge, then he guard breaks me and I can't tech it, what the hell am I meant to do? What is the timing? What are the rules around it?

>>175434165

Avatar-fagging is garbage, but she's the hottest one.

>>175435080
Timing of the dodge doesn't matter. You can GB tech at any point in your dodge window. The part you're fucking up is the tech timing, which is tight as hell. It's pretty much only going to something you reliably do if you're smashing GB before they grab you.

>>175435224
That's what I do.

>>175434239
well he can dodge forward and either GB or headbutt but it's not a godlike 50/50, just a potential one

since you need unholy reflexes to dodge his headbutt it may as well be one

>>175436396
none of these are real 50/50s you have so much more than 2 options. Alot of "50/50s" aren't even real unless you're out of stamina.

>Face someone who isn't a Warden, Orochi or Warlord for the FIRST TIME since the fucking patch
>It's actually fun

You know, the fact that they are OP cockshit is bad enough, but it's not enough to make me truly hate Wardens and Warlords; what makes me REALLY hate them is the fact that the entire game in duels is those two cocksucking faggots, over and over, with no variety. Orochi, too.

Can I turn off joining in-progress games? Where is it, if so?

>>175437129
nope

>>175437329
fuck

>>175436691
The thing, at least in my experience, is that Duel Wardens play totally different from 4v4 lobbies. 4v4 Wardens vortex spam. But Duel Wardens feint and all other crazy shit that blows my water and I actually learn some things. But that might just be me.

>>175438639
Wardens never feint in duels from my experience. They very rarely parry, either, because they know they can just shoulder bash you over and over without any real risk to their safety unless you are playing Raider or are godlike.

>>175438639
>five duels back-to-back where bezerkers/wardens/orochi's just roll the stick back and forth waiting for me to act/tossing out random lights
>on console so input lag+frames makes it hell
>slowly start getting better, start using feints and lights more
Fuck I was pretty salty at first but I felt myself getting better with each loss
Really don't understand why that tactic get's me so pissed

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wow we're dead

Dead general for a dead game :^)

>>175443715
>>175444123
it's the middle of the night, What do you expect?

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>going through campaign
>"Is this some kind of silent movie-type shit?"
>wonder how everyone talking about apoleon and friends know what their motives and stuff were
>see some guy streaming for honor and everyone is actually talking
>TFW accidentally played through most of the knights campaign with voices turned down to 0

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>>175430164
masterfully done mane.

This may sound dumb, but since last patch I had a huge ass general performance drop, the game was definitely run a lot more crappy, so I took down a few graphical option and I think it actually improved my stability a whole fucking lot.
I don't have as much network problems as I used to with the old setting, so if you experience a lot of crash try it out, you never know, the game isn't even that much uglier.

>>175445114
This has been happening to me too.

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>>175429823
I just wanna know why the statue of the knights has a raider axe with a shield.

>>175443715
Sauce on the gif?

>>175444220
There is more than once timezone.
>American education

>>175446905
you fucked it up

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>>175428849
i also want to know when this comes out.

>>175428085
Fantastic, although transitioning from a game with minor fighting game elements to a full blown fighting game, let alone one of the most complicated, will be a tough one.

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Sigh.

>people who think valk is op on console
how can be people be so bad?

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>>175445114
Status update:
Since I changed my graphical settings I had ONE disconnect, compared to literally one match in two before.
Just what the fuck man

>>175445357
Weird thing is, the game really isn't that much different from high/ultra setting to medium/low, the texture look a bit more muddy but that's about it.

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>>175448481
>he doesn't play on the secret ultra-low graphics for optimum framerate and minimal visual distractions

>>175428245
dumb balloon tits

>>175448585
Honestly I wouldn't mind, it doesn't look that bad.
Remind me of pretentious indie game going for muh artsy minimalism, but it's not visually repulsing.
How did you achieved that?

So they fixed doing orders without matchmaking?

>>175425892

DEAD

FUCKING

MEMES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekno3czCXfM

>>175448791
Does not appear so.

>>175448928
Ubisoft is based in Nepal?

>>175448791
>>175448956
Actually, like it has been for me the last couple days, Brawl is still working solo.

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There is literally nothing you can do against a Conqueror as a Lawbringer

>>175449758
Yeah, basically. It's not a winnable fight unless Conq wants to lose.

what changes would you like to see for your main?
i'd like law to no longer have a guaranteed light off a block shove but still have it off a regular shove

>>175450102
Rescind the guaranteed light off block shove, remove stance change penalties.

>>175450102
As a Warden I shouldn't be able to switch my brain off and force people to guess what I'm going to do next in the vortex.

>>175449276

>Tfw I could never into geography but know the world maps of many vidya games inside out
Why would I even care where all those nigger countries I will never visit are?

>>175450195
t. Rep 0 Warden, Rep 11 Warlord

>>175450102
It's not quite guaranteed, but yeah, I agree.

It's really causing lawbringers to be seen as cancer, and I just want to smack people across the map in peace. I play him literally no different from pre-patch.

>>175450102
Just a whole new kit for the conq.

>>175450236
Rep 6 warden actually.

>>175450203
The solution is to get into Grand Strategy. I was the same as you until I picked up Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4.

>>175450102
As a Warden I'd like to see some non-shit helmets and ornaments. Flat top greathelms are shit, where are the bascinets and sallets? And where are the plumes or teutonic horns, instead of these car hood ornaments?

>>175448585
post more please

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>Roach zonememes me to death
>OK!
Beyond fucking mad. When will this character get fixed.

>>175450417
>Flat top greathelms are shit

Wow, it's not often you see someone say something that is 100% objectively fucking retarded and wrong. You must really like cocks, you homosexual.

>>175450476
There's nothing wrong with liking cocks.

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>>175450462
How broken do you think ninjobi's zone gonna be?

>>175450276
they should have just given him a mace
>>175450417
>flat top greathelms are shit
they may be realistically but they look nice

>>175450553
>Spins like a spinning top for 10 seconds with his arms out
>Every hit you take from it deals 35 damage
>Flickers horrifically
>Has super armour during
>At the end he pulls out a gun and shoots you

>>175450539
begone, thot

>>175450102
Current main is PK and I wish her zone wasn't so fucked.
She also deal way too much damages or have too much health.
Either nerf her damages or her health and it can compensate for her speed and mobility

>>175450476
>objectively fucking retarded and wrong
>fell out of use in favor of round-topped ones super fast because concussions are bad

>>175451084
If you are talking about aesthetics, then round ones look worse.

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>>175450417
>Sallets
FUCKING
THIS

Sallets are literally the best helmet both practically AND aesthetically, when the fuck is Warden getting one?
It's even more infuriating when the warden in the trailer actually had one

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>>175451520
Bascinets are aesthetic too... Just imagine painting or engraving this thing.

>>175449758
Dodge shield bash - GB? They can't tech it after a whiff anymore.

>>175450102
Conqueror gets a rework in general.
>side lights buffed to 500ms, top light buffed to 12 damage, range increase on all
This will give Conqueror more incentive to use his lights outside of a shield bash. By letting him set up a faster but weaker light to initiate a chain, it will allow Conqueror to actually use his chains more effectively. In regards to his chains

>chains all reworked/rebalanced
Conqueror's chains are absolute garbage. They do barely any damage, they're slow, and they don't have unique enders. So let's fix that.
>Conscript's Attrition
With the light attack buff, this chain would be a little better. However what would really make it interesting, is making the chain more powerful the longer you use it. Buff the delay, give it heavy block status after a couple hits in the chain, and maybe some chip damage or armor.
>Final Argument
With his infinite chain buffed, Final Argument would be a nice mixup. Buffing the speed that the heavy comes out to 700ms or so would give it a lot of use.
>Reaper's Crush
This chain is ass. I have almost never seen the second heavy hit in my 100+ hours of playing Conqueror, even in the beta. There's no way to make this better without making it gimmicky, so let's do just that but mix it in.
>Reaper's Crush is combined with Final Argument, second hit is a wide swing unblockable if used as a Conscript's Attrition chain ender
By buffing Reaper's Crush, and by more extent Final Argument, you would give even MORE incentive to use Conscript's Attrition and be able to set up a diverse and frightening offense that isn't dash in + shield bash. This will give Conqueror some reason to commit to his chains instead of full blocking at the first sight of trouble.
1/2

>Dodge Nobushi's Kick.
>Go for Grab
>Get hit by light and poisoned.
>Go for heavy
>Get hit by light and poisoned.
>Go for light for 10 damage punish

>>175452330
Story of my life.

>>175452212
>shield is active at all times in the direction Conqueror is blocking, unless he uses a heavy, is guardbroken, or parried
This will allow Conqueror to trade more efficiently. By being able to attack while blocking, it reworks superior block to actually have a use. With all of his other chain buffs, this would make Conqueror very strong offensively, but not in a bad way. By giving him more chain options and more enders, he's just getting a Kensei treatment on his movelist. Without a "safe" option like headbutt or shield bash, it would still be relatively simple to deal with if you know how to parry, but that's more of a mechanical problem with the game in general, not just Conqueror.

>shield bash now works like a deflect, can only be used on dash blocks or full blocks
Shield bash has been the prime reason Conqueror has been a poorly designed character. Originally, it gave him far too safe an offense, and when it was nerfed, it was still the only thing he could use to get in. By nerfing the only thing that made him good, but neglecting to rework it, they kept him in the same spot he was before, just weaker overall. Conqueror players still just shield bash because it's the only thing they can do without getting parried or countered, and even then it's not feasible.

2/3

>>175452330
>Every Nobushi follows kick with light, even on whiff
Just parry my dude

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>>175452783
>mfw picked console version

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>>175452783
If I could parry lights I wouldn't be complaining about them. Have sub 250ms reaction time. Can never actually use them in game because reasons.
I fucking swear if I'm watching someone else play, I can literally pinpoint when you should hit parry button, block lights and shit, but when I play it, it's like my reaction times have now tripled.

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>>175452962
>mfw same issue

>>175452595
>feat reworks
When is the last time you saw a Conqueror that didn't have Shield Basher, Heal on Block, and Catapult for their Tier 2, 3, and 4 feats respectively? Ubisoft hasn't changed any of the feats in the game so far when they're something that really needs some attention in 4v4 in general.. Conqueror's feats all around are decent, but it's because of ONE feat.
>make good feats "worse", make bad feats "better"
>Conqueror now becomes unique to Conqueror, gets a buff
It's a neat little feat, but it kind of sucks ass. Buff it to have Conqueror be able to stop points from giving the enemy breaking points. Conqueror would be more about going to the point that's getting attacked rather than camping one the entire game.
>Heal on Block is fucking ridiculous
As a Conqueror main, I acknowledge that. However I don't think it's a feat that's broken. Make it a Tier 4 feat and take away Regneration. This will make Conqueror players have to decide between taking a very good offensive tool (Catapult), or a very good defensive tool. (Heal on Block).
>other feats
In place of Heal on Block in the Tier 3 slot, give Conqueror Steadfast. By not having to worry about guardbreaks, Conqueror can focus on all out offense. It would maybe shift the meta from Conqueror being a passive feat monster into having some niche active builds. Allowing him to have three different and very useful active buffs would make him strong if he's outnumbered. Having Juggernaut, Steadfast, and Uninterruptible all active at the same time would be fucking insane. But it would using three separate feats and I think it's an insanity that should be encouraged.

3/3, I promise this time

>>175452212
>>175452595
>>175453136
Good shit. I see you posting balance ideas for Conqueror all the time but nobody ever responds. The thing I like is that you actually have some decent ideas, not just "LOL MAKE MY CHARACTER BROKEN" or "LOL MAKE THIS CHARACTER USELESS".

>>175453350
Eh, I'm kind of used to it getting ignored by now, but it's fun to write it down and think about how neat it would be if any of those changes were actually made. Most of the time when I post this shit, it's almost immediately followed by waifufags or a blogpost anyways

>>175451762
If you GB while dodging as LB shove comes out

>>175452939
you can still parry them

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>>175452212
>>175452595
>>175453136
Looks interesting as a conq main myself I've never thought of what he could use so I'll leave that to people like you but I can share my opinions on some stuff.

For the top light it's already 12dmg but I think top heavy will need a dmg buff too and make it only usable when you bash someone on the ground or stagger him against a wall, it's slower but does the same dmg this shouldn't even be a thing.

Also make it so people can't gb us anymore after knocked down. Personally I don't have a problem with this cause I only it use to finish someone off or I'll just use a light.

For the sb when you block out of omniblock looks kinda stupid to me it's already easy to dodge and requires too much stam. The deflect sb only is a good idea but I think the shield active all time will be too strong.

For the feats I would rather have the heal on block as an active stat.

Overall it looks good.

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>fighting orochi in duel
>playing as warlord
>get a guardbreak near a ledge
>"better not be a shitter and throw him off, i'll just R2 him"
>R2 him
>he falls off

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>>175454261
>you're a shitter if you ledge

>>175453795
Gets you a 50/50 at least, but I admit that's worse than a guaranteed GB.

>>175454403
I'm not saying that. I know he'll think that tho and I'd rather not piss people off

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>>175454521
It's a PvP game.
Why do you care about your opponent's feelings

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>>175454568
I get flustered when people get emotional about their games.

>>175454220
>buff top heavy damage
Oh yeah, if top heavy had a big damage buff, like 5 damage more across the board (25 > 30 uncharged, 30> 35 1st charge, 45 > 50 full charge) I think it would make it worth it to use top heavy even though it isn't guaranteed on guardbreak and is slower in general.

>make it so people can't guardbreak us anymore after knocked down
What do you mean by that?

>for the shield bash out of fullblock sounds stupid to me
I thought about giving it the Warden treatment, letting you charge and cancel it.
>the deflect shield bash is a good idea but I think the active shield would be too strong
I don't think so. People can still just feint, and parries are a bigger issue in the defensive meta anyways. Letting Conqueror keep some pressure on offensively while defending wouldn't shake things up much since people can still just turtle against him like they do now.

>I would rather have Heal on Block as an active stat
I'm not really sure what the difference would be. They would just back off then, it loses it's usefulness at that point. If it's active all the time the only thing they can do is try to take you out while they're there.

>>175457175
>>make it so people can't guardbreak us anymore after knocked down
>What do you mean by that?
you get a free gb on conq if conq charges his heavy and hits you

>>175457375
Oh yeah, that. That's just one of the many quality "features" that Ubisoft likes to implement.

>Backdash away from Warlord
>Guardbreak teleports him to me and still gets me
>Backdash from Warlord
>Headbutt teleports to me

Warlord can fuck off

>>175457603
*backdashes you*
heh... nothi-
N-NANI!?

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EVEN FUCKING RAIDERS LIGHTS ARE NEAR UNREACTABLE ON CONSOLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>175458149
no they aren't, stop being bad

>>175428245
Why the fuck did they have to make Baiken a shitty titcow? Fucking horny gooks.

Didn't play since release, why is /fhg/ advising people to play Raider now? Did some new tech come out? Or did they buff him?

>>175458241
Raider hasn't been buffed, but is going to be next patch

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>>175454641
why? you're playing smelly warlord anyway, i get infuriated just seeing him on the opposing side

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>complete this order with a friend at your side
>they all quit after a month of playing
Fuck you ubi stop giving me these orders.

>>175458513
I played with this one guy the entire beta and he quit a week into release when the F2P shitters got weeded out. He played Orochi and couldn't get good so he just stopped playing. Came back a month or two later when Valkyrie was buffed to bullshit tier when nobody knew how to deal with her, still got fucked, quit again. I don't feel bad though, he was the type of guy to complain about everybody else not pulling their weight when all he did was run around and cheese people.

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>>175458513

>complete this order with a friend at your side
>Never had any to begin with

>Been playing warden main and lawman alt.
>Have secretly fallen in love with kensei for the past couple of weeks.

Help i dont want to betray my knightbro's and become a filthy weeb.

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>>175459692
kensei isn't really a weeb character desu

>cant do orders with ai anymore
well fuck you too ubisoft its not like i want to play your game anyway

>>175459887
Of course he is

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>>175460417
>wise weathered honourable warrior aesthetic
>weeb
pk is more weeb than kensei

>>175458750
Mine all quit because we mainly played dominion/elimination and by the 2nd week we were running into full teams of i108. It was the point when i108 warlord turtled as last man alive for 5minutes and self rezed after being killed that all my friends quit. Gear was just too fucking retarded.

>>175460498
>falling for the same setup twice
>trying to parry that and not just dodging or backrolling
>letting Kensei guard break you in the first place

>>175460921
hindsight is 20/20

>>175460498
>>175460921
Just fucking noticed.
>playing Raider so he's immune to guardbreak mixups anyways
Holy christ that dude is just bad

>games getting to the point where everyone is useing cheese

boi

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>>175459692
Kensei and Raider, with nobu as a runner-up, are the LEAST cancerous heroes in the game right now. Prove me wrong.

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SUGGESTION: Warden can no longer cancel the shoulder once he initiates it. Fixed?

>>175460990
t. shitter

>>175461195
But Raider is up there with the most cancerous because of his playerbase, same with Lawbringer. Kensei and Nobushi just have no players at all, and the ones that do play them are either dedicated or are just levelling them.

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>>175461530
ye u right
there's always gonna be someone who complains because x didn't do y z, right?

>>175460498
>getting grabbed through an attack
Why does this sometimes happen and sometimes does not?

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>tfw you can use Warlord entire kit
Why aren't all heroes like that?

>>175461736
you're meant to be able to grab someone at the start of a heavy attack, but it's broken as fuck

>>175461195
Raider usually falls into the lost because my character is bad type of players

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Respectability list.
1 being "No respect for these guys" 10 being "Would enter a bromance with"

Warden: 3
Conq: 5 post nerf, 2 pre nerf
PK: 2 post nerf, 1 pre nerf
Law: 5 post nerf, 10 pre nerf

Raider: 10
Warlord: 4 post nerf, 1 pre nerf
Berserker: 7
Valkyrie: 2

Kensei: 10
Shugoki: 6 post nerf, 2 pre nerf
Orochi: 4, 1 when zone spamming
Nobushi: 7

>>175461796
iirc you can't do that when the dude is out of stamina, the gb just bounces off
learned that the hard way

>>175461991
you can but it's even buggier
it's beyond retarded
i remember i got clobbered over the head by a lawbringer like 4 times in one match cause his heavy just went straight through my guardbreak
especially as someone like kensei where i kinda HAVE to get those mindgame guardbreaks off

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>>175461492

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I'll never stop being salty over being tossed a fucking mile by warlord shoves

>Saving for centurion
>At 7k
>Already tempted to buy an elite outfit
Why am I so shit with ingame money. No matter what game,I am always broke.

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>refuse to use vortex
>Warden can't do an attack without getting parried
What's even the point of those slow ass lights?

>>175462731
They're for vortexing

>>175462869
So should I just spam shoulder like a madman? Is this how you play Warden?

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>>175462950
yes

>3 skirmish orders
>Low activity
Dead fucking game.

>>175462731
>refuse to use character's full moveset
>confused when some moves have nothing to combo with
ur a dummy

>>175461195
Nobushi abusing the unlocked zone are the definition of cancer.

>>175463194
wait you can do a heavy top after a block?

>>175464038
It was a light parry.

>>175464093
it takes longer to recover?

>>175464167
Light parries give a free heavy, heavy parries give a free light but you can also get a free gb into heavy for some reason.

>>175463923
Learn the kensei spin

>playing on controller for a long time
>can't block PK second light
>start playing with M/S
>can block and parry everything
It's just so faster.
Now I just need to get used do GB and feint on Keyboard.

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>>175458750
>>175460639
Mine quit because he couldn't stop being insanely butthurt at everything.
He'd only want to play brawl and at time he'd completely stop fighting midfight because he'd feel cheesed off.

>keep mistaking warden's lights for heavies
>keep missing free heavies because of it

>>175464370
>Play on cotroller
>Can block PK second light

>Tryig to give up smoking
>Reactions are shot to shit and hands are so shaky that I just can't play well

I hope I'm through the worst in time for centurion, this sucks.

>>175464619
Probably I'm just not good using a controller.

>>175464624
Literally only yourself to blame.

>>175464720

After the nerf it's gotten a lot easier too, people say the nerf didn't change her but I have a very easy time blocking her lights now.

>>175464746
I don't recall trying to blame anyone else in my post.

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So as raider, can I only convert an exhausted throw into the side heavy>super zone maximum punish if I can throw them into a wall or somehow have them go short of the usual throw distance?
I have been trying in a custom game on a berzerker bot.
Could it be done with the lowest throwrange from gear?

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>Want to collect every gear piece in purple quality on my main
>Look up how how many gear pieces there are in total
>Not enough space
Why would they do this

>>175466014
conq has the same issue except my max punish is only 50, and enemies randomly stand up and block the second hit

>>175466123
>ubi thinks most people wont play more than 1-3 chars
>still locks gear per class instead of giving a giant pool of 500 slots or some shit

>>175466242
Well, i have been able to get it if the throw is short, but I can only seem to get a single heavy in time if they go the full way because I have to move up to hit him.

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How has no one noticed yet that you can get 2 heavies with warden on an exhausted enemy?
you just have to throw them sideway against an obstacle so they don't go too far and there you go side heavy + top heavy.

>>175466462
it's been a thing since like a week after release

>>175466641
How come i never see anyone do it?

>>175466462
Any character with a heavy chain can, if you don't have a heavy chain you can still go light into heavy.

Holy fuck orochi has some awhul matchups

>conq vs orochi

save me, what tier is oro?

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can love bloom on the battlefield?

>>175467443
Kill your self for playing roach : tier.

Who is Lawbringer best bros with? Who is his love interest?

>>175467587

they are part of the same faction

>>175467969
Centurion and law go way back, his true love is justice.

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>>175467587

*Whispers*
"That's not even my sword"
*retracts her feminine penis*

>>175468157

Its Centurion and Warden

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>>175467587

Shugoki is so boring now. The only fun thing was to be an annoyance with the run and that's gone

>>175468456
Yeah it was real """fun""".

>>175462504
tfw season pass so can buy mythic on release.

>>175468507
Not for others.

>>175468698

You get an outfit for free

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entertain him

why dont people like roach?

other than the flicker glitch?

>>175468889
only elite,i'm hoping the mthic will be good or else I've saved steel for nothing.

>>175469004

Hes the closet thing to an actual samurai

>sypher trying to defend the lb 50/50
>gets hit
>"I wasn't paying attention"
LB mains are pure cancer.

>>175469004
Weeb bait and boring to fight against.

>>175469465
50/50s aren't a bad thing, what's awful though are 50/50 initiations which this game is fucking full of for some stupid reason.

>>175469072
Actual samurai were cowardly mounted archers.

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>Join skirmish
>Attack shugoki
>Notice he doesn't fight back
>He is emoting with our Raider
>Round turns into people friendly murdering each other in 1v1 and occasional ganks while I farm NPC captains
Not bad

damn I need to try warlord next, that nigga can easily 2v1 even with base gear

why did they make him so strong? do you reckon he was one of the first designed maybe?

>>175469970
Seems a lot of the dev team are full blown kangs. After the way they buffed lb I'm not looking forward to raiders buffs. I bet over buff won't even begin to cover it.

>>175469640
But he was trying to prove that it isn't a 50/50 and every time he got hit was because "he wasn't paying attention".

>Volkoff blade
I kinda like that hook but it doesn't make any fucking sense.

>>175470279
I wasn't refuting you, people will defend their horse shit 50/50 initiations to the death. I was just pointing out that 50/50s aren't always a bad thing. For instance a 50/50 at mid combo is very common in fighting games. But when your way in is a 50/50 you don't need to do anything more than rely on that.

>>175468918
http://i.imgur.com/kerBvEf.jpg

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>>175468918
As a man of taste, centurion chooses nobushi wife over filthy warden every time.

>Yet another nobushi went to the finial round of a tournament
>Nobushi mains still act like she's an underdog

Fucking laughable lads.

>dominion
>playing assassin
>enemy is breaking
>take point with a conq
>run to take another point
>he leaves the point we took
>enemy take it back and rally

my fucking god

>>175470852
she is

>>175470852
>tournament

when will this meme stop

>>175470914
What ever helps you feel better about your self man. If it wasn't for warlords nobushis would have won the majority of tournaments by now.

Can you do orders offline again? An entire skirmish match with killstealing out the ass and never dying is basically not a possibility online unless you play a stab-and-run PK.

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>>175469765
>cowardly
check
>can cheese enemy's full health using his ranged feats
check

>>175471204
I'll just assume you don't know about her unlocked game.

>>175471297
i do

>>175471297
>tournamets are an exploiter parade
you've run a full circle boys, time to change the subject

>>175471378
Oh, well my apologies. I'm sure with practice you'll get better.

>>175471460
We'll the devs still haven't addressed any of this exploitive shit so may as well take it into consideration when talking about characters strengths and weaknesses.

>>175471524
>complains about a weak character
>calls others bad
excuse me?