Steel Ocean Admiral /sog/

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which of these guys that you see here are good for a japanese scouting DD? i aint got a lot, so i gotta make due.

>>175402792
Far right, second row 3 star Arashi into your radio seat (headphones) as he provides quite a boost to spotting.

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>>175404019
okie dokie

>>175404370
Cute duck.

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>>175405782
shiRATsuyu

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>>175409182

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>>175410329

>>175404019
wait i forgot to ask, is the rest of the crew good? just switch in arashi?

>>175413083
well part of it is you can pick and choose what stats you want to prioritize but in the case of the Radio seat, some commanders have a significant boost to spotting or sonar when in that seat. Arashi is +500m spotting range. Nott P2W or OP since everybody gets him when they hit T2 Destroyers.

And some other commanders also provide the '+spotting range when in Comms' and you could choose to use one of those if you had them, but I do not believe you do.

Smug-Cybiz-face commander in your engineering seat is liked by quite a few here I think.

And the gunner so could be whatever. For example: You have Gunther, sub commander 4 stars.
He has 1% disguise and Torpedo Ready which is a 'on torp hit = faster reload' which is nice.
And when Gunther was leveled and you ever decided to try out submarines you'd have a great sub commander good to go.

However Chiaki ain't bad for the offensive bonuses he gives such as turret traverse and accuracy, along with 15% more AA&MG damage.

Oh, and Luckner is effectively required on DD's at least because he is the disguise king. While most commanders provide 1-2% disguise passives, he provides 5% and 2% if upgraded to 3 stars, which you have done. AND AGAIN, that isn't Pay to win, or OP because everybody gets him after 1-2 matches.

TL;DR Arashi adds +500m spotting if in the comms seat. Some other commanders do too but you don't have them.

Your other guys are fine enough, maybe consider using Gunther 4* but optional since Chiaki provides some nice bonuses of his own that help a bit against DD's, and quite a bit against planes.

But the choices are yours really regarding what stats to go for besides disguise and +spotting

>>175414971
is there anyone who gives more than 500m spotting? who would you put in comms? ive been trying to get kimura kazuo.

>>175415205
I know a few do +450 or so, but I do not think it goes above +500 for a single passive.

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>Paint yourself as The Incredible Hulk
>Go to wash it off after the fun is over
>It is military grade paint designed for Submarines

How does one even get their hands on that kind of shit?

>>175422192
wew that fuckin sucks

dont let the thread die while NA is schleep, euros

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That size difference though.

>>175415205
If you can get Kazuo to drop he's a great choice

>>175419348
Cute

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Just shut the game down

>>175445029
Just cap and bait the subs to come for you while the DDs >hopefully do their job.

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>>175448876
It's obviously easy.
But it's a shit match regardless.
MM is getting worse by the day.
Servers shut down when?

>>175449617
It's not getting worse, it as shit as always. You're just receiving a fresh reminder about it every time.

>>175450467
The number of retarded matches has definitely been increasing massively. Especially those where MM thinks sub=CV. Sometimes 6 or 7 matches in a row will have these CV/DD/SS shenanigans even when I queue solo.

>>175450903
dude
just play cvs
lmao

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Takao vs Des Moines, is one straight up better than the other? Or should I get both?

Also is the Shimakaze worth it?

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>>175458525
and why do we get the 2AA version instead of the not 2AA version

>>175458525
Just play both lines. Personally I prefer Takao.

Shimakaze isn't dogshit, but all other T9 DDs are better

>>175460025
the sheer number of long lance tops doesn't put it over?

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Bit of history on the Dazzle Camo designs

>>175461678
Torps are useless

>>175464138
>there will never be a bote game where dazzle camo makes your ship easier to spot but the enemy only sees an approximate position

>>175464526
you can do big damage on unsuspecting ships, they're nice to have, especially when you can drop a wall of 15

>3 days of VIP
Not bad I guess.

>>175467497
Nice. Had that occur a few days ago

>>175466135
'no'

>>175470835
so do you guys just not use torps

>>175471227
You just shoot spreads into smoke to maybe force them to move or zone them or use them against subs. As such, the quality of the torps doesn't matter, just that you have some. DDs aren't allowed to have fun in this game, their role for spotting is too vital because most of the time teams will have only a single DD. Trying to deal torp damage to a capital ship will lose you the game. Especially in Tier 9.

The most important attributes for a DD in this game are gun damage and range, spotting range, durability and maneuvaribility. Removing the enemy DD is the best way to win.

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Sometimes it's just sad

>>175471831
so then i should keep playing german DD's but i was told they are some of the worst at spotting.

>>175475047
They have 50m less spotting, that's absolutely nothing

>>175475421
oh. well im gonna become the best torpedoer there ever was to prove a point to nobody at all. i think german DD's are really ugly and have ugly names so id rather play IJN

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Roster is pretty much done, but there's still a bunch of shit I need help with.
1. BaBBy or Flanking BB
2. Thank you for your post and continued support of the game is too long of a name for the maximum of 45 characters. We could go either with abbreviating it entirely like in the pic or shortening it to Thank you for your continued support as I had originally intended.
3. Who's going to be the face of Fap to Botes Day. It was Yodo last season, but I'm considering making a condescending Yodo the face for >60% WR Shitters. Z3 could be an alternative, but I intend to use her for Wunderfloat, unless otherwise desired.
4. Medals. Cat Herder was leading comfortably for captain in the first poll before reset, so I'm not going to put that spot up for contention despite the fact that I voted differently.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc-hb0U4z3DmzjN7frIbRRwYTnAjctBePPZddtHU3fy5W71Jw/viewform?usp=sf_link

Also, since PES 17 has portraits, if there's something in particular that you want to see as a portrait, don't hesitate to tell me.

>>175475654
For the most part, the lines are balanced. So if a particular nation or ships' history interested you, you can choose it without much worry about the line being shit or not.

Each line might have strengths and weaknesses, but usually the weaknesses are not that bad. Like >>175475421
mentions with Ger DD's.

Or Japanese BB's having the highest alpha damage but not the best Penetration and usually slowest BB reload. Keeps it balanced

>>175477530
why not make the portrait of fap to botes shimakaze, isnt that the meme one? the one everyone and their mom jerks off to with or without penis?

>>175478039
Shimakaze is F U T A D I C K S.

>>175478219
oh, iite.

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>>175477530
>Thank you for your post and continued support is precisely 45

Fap to botes day could be a wall or cube-head that some teams use with pic related. And I agree, the Yodo character fits the 60% WR position better.

>>175478219
But if it's got a dick, is Shimakaze male or female? Trap or no trap?

>>175480793
its got a dick...so male. i dont even know why people give shimakaze a penis, maybe its the stocking legging things.

>>175478505
I guess a cube head COULD be used, but that pic would be unintelligible. Single head possibilities I'm considering are Haruna, Akizuki and Bismarck. Alternatively, I guess a cube head with 5 pics of your choice could work.

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do you actually get to use mogami's sheer number of planes in game?

>>175487607
No

>>175488838
is it because its the 1935 version or did the chinese overlords not want to give us that gimmick

>>175489213
dunno

>>175489213
I think it's because of being the 1935

>>175492894
i bet if they made a Mogami 1943 itd make some money, it would be an interesting alternative to the Ise BBV, and maybe make it the ultimate BB buddy.

>>175493102
But we'll never get it.

>>175495926
oh

>>175493102
That would be neat. What tier would it be do you think?

>>175496349
well, it seems to be worse in every way to the 1935 Mogami at the cost of having 11 planes, so maybe a tier less than the one in game.

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>>175496793
forgot to add this to my psot

>>175497037
oh nope wait, we got more AA. i still think it should be a tier less though.

>>175497295
Well that could be an interesting ship then.

Either boosting flight deck size for the purposes of the game, or simply having access to more scouts and AA.

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shootmedead is a fucking cuck

>>175501209
why is that

>>175501209
What happened?

>>175502163
>>175501283
Can you convince him to stop shilling in our general, and getting defensive when we tell him to fuck off.

>>175502416
oh ye i forgot he plays wows. yeah i dunno, i used to play wows and even i couldnt stop his shilling. his dedication/autism knows no bounds and i dont think he will stop until WoWS dies or he can somehow convince a lot of people to come play this game instead.

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>>175410541
Subs a best

does anyone wanna make a fuckbucket platoon, unlocked her, havent played her yet. i know shes easy mode seal clubber but i like to play with pals.

>>175422192
It's probably highly mutagenic too.
Better not have kids and check for cancer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fouling_paint

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>>175505942
>fuckbucket

>>175506152
thats her name dude

>>175505942
In 10-20 minutes maybe.

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>>175506543
ill be here

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Most interesting for anyone into control systems, including those in WW1/2 naval warfare

https://www.media.mit.edu/videos/mindell-2002-12-03/

The above does not properly work in Firefox. Alternate presentation at:

http://techtv.mit.edu/videos/15829-between-human-and-machine-feedback-control-and-computing-before-cybernetics

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>>175506797
>it's actually a seal I haven't seen in ages

>>175508137
ive had the hankering for naval combat and i only got 2 options that doesnt involve strategy games

>>175508137
I thought I recognized this style and lack of capitilization. It really is him

>game crashed

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oy vey

>>175511125
Delete this you antisemite.

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>>175511457

>>175511457
I never realized that Jews are the only ones who still hate the Roman Empire for their handouts of extremist ass-whooping and smalltown-eradication..

>>175501209
>Check the timing of post, and what transpired in WoWSG

That wasn't me m8, I was passed out and sleeping.
1. I don't link directly to the general.
I'm more the one to post in detail, why a person should be open and available to trying both games out instead of following the mindset of most WoWS players of "YOU CAN ONLY PLAY ONE EXCLUSIVELY!!" Despite them both being free to play.

2. If the post takes less than 60 seconds to read according to https://wordcounttools.com/, and doesn't make you think of this scene with each post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl-BizIDeVs
it probably isn't me posting on WoWSG.

Though I had posted a total of three times in your previous thread.
>1st was 94 words
>2nd was 230 words
>3rd was 198 words

TL;DR Not sure who the guy was, but it wasn't me.

what are the highlights of the IJN DD line, aside from the fubuki? i just want the akizuki but maybe the grind will be fun.

>>175515352
Kagero and the ducky are hilariously strong,the rest of the ships are decent so you'll have a fun grind.

>>175517850
what puts the kagero a step above the rest?

>>175518943
T9 guns on a t7, even the easymode wunderfloats respect that shit.

>>175519714
also do you know of any ships that make CV players want to reconsider their choices when they face them? so far ive got

Baltimore
Des Moines
and Akizuki

>>175520056
Iowa
Atlanta
Most of the bong BCs
Yuubari
Ise BBV
Ooyodo makes them consider suicide because it has about the same AA as the Iowa at tier 5.

>>175522159
oh yeah i forgot about the Iowa, need that
already got the Atlanta
>UK
and yuubari, ooyodo and Ise are all premiums right?

>>175522649
wait

>ooyodo
>jap cruiser
>NO TORPS

the fuck

>>175523065
Yeah, Ooyodo didn't have torps.

whats an effective way to use scout planes? i just send them in to find a ship and 10 times out of 10 they get shot down. is that all theyre good for or is it better to try to keep them alive? but the more im looking at the map screen the less im actually shooting at them...or are you not supposed to leave them hovering? i guess spotting them for half a second is good enough to see where theyre at.

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>>175523065
Yodo doesn't have torps but she does have torp bombers to outplay subhumans and BBs that aren't paying attention.

>>175523480
That's pretty much it, scouts die most of the time but you can use them defensively too, like parking it just on the edge of your AA so you can shoot down the enemy scouts at max range while keeping yours safe, or you can send it away as a sentry to a path that you think the enemy will use.

>>175422192
At that point I'd embrace it and make sure the paint job is a good one

>>175527635
Cute.

So is this game dead or what

Can I regularly get full matches

>>175533965
Up to probably T6 or 7 at most times of day you can get quite full matches. Note that truly "full" in this game can be up to 16v16. But 8v8-12v12 is fairly common up to about mid-tier.

As more players reach higher tiers, larger match sizes have been occurring in higher tiers.

But for a new player? Yeah you'll have decent matches.

>>175536636
Beware of statpadding stacks.

Discounts??????

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>sign on
>Not a minute passes and random person saying hello

>>175519714
You wot m8
Kagerou gets blasted by both Somers and Z31

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>>175536636
>As more players reach higher tiers, larger match sizes have been occurring in higher tiers.

>>175548593
Shuddap, you know what I meant! I'd written that shortly after waking up from a Day/NyQuil induced sleep/coma
So my cognitive faculties were definitely hampered.

>>175523480
Scouts and other planes can see through smoke which is one of their strengths.

Ideally your scout lights up a target for long enough to let you or your team get an aimed salvo off at an enemy.

But as a whole, scout planes have the worst life expectancy. But they know the medal's in the mail along with a nice benefits package for their widow/family.

>>175551796
but the things they say when they get shot at/die are so sad...

Is there some sort of resource where I can see every commander in the game and what they do?

Also I remember one time this guy told me about an Iowa commander build he had where he was as fast as the Iowa could go and DD's couldnt outrun him.

>>175556123
Barracks.

>>175556123
It's in the damn OP

>>175556764
the commander calculator? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet and they only give names, I have no idea what any of them do.

>>175557889
It's all there.

>>175558798
oh, there's tabs. told you I don't know how to use a spreadsheet. there's 73 commanders though, how are you sposed to get em all? or the ones you want?

>>175559952
The number of useful commanders is small.
You can buy them with qualification, and buy a few of them for 900 merit in the shop or even get them for free from quests.

For a good roster for DD, BB and cruisers (without shekling out massively) you will only need the following:

- Kaspar Mass 3 star (900 merit, possibly quest reward?)
- Felix von Luckner 3 star (quest reward, 400 qualification to upgrade)
- Isoroku Yamamoto 4 star (2500 qualification) or Doolittle/Horton as cheap alternatives
- Reinhard von Musel 4 star (900 merit, 1000 qualification to upgrade)
- Alan MacMillan 4 star (quest reward, 1000 qualification to upgrade)
- Nakayama Arashi 3 star (quest reward possibly? otherwise 900 merit) Long term you will probably want to replace him with Kimura Kazuo, Wolf Hoffenstein or Arleigh Burke, depending on the unique effect you want most
- Otto Lindemann 3 star (quest reward) Can also get Günter Lütjens (2500 qualification)
- Willys Yang 5 star (300 qualification, 3500 qualification to upgrade) Very expensive, but also the single best upgrade you can get for cruisers

>>175562158
I think I have everyone listed besides Yamamoto and Yang. Yang can only be bought? And how do I get all this qualification? Is this the real grind?

>>175562629
Well, you get 12600 merit total for getting a tier 4 of every class, 2700 merit from the anniversary DLC and 1500 qualification total for getting to tier 6. That should help a lot.

Besides that, it's not even like you can grind for qualification. You're limited to the daily, weekly and monthly quest rewards and monthly FB rewards.

>>175563098
boy do I really not want to play CV's and subs

>>175563584
Good, stay the fuck away from subhumans.

>>175563584
Just use global exp, it's not even 20k

död

>>175562629
>Yang can only be bought
You can roll any commander with merit, just a matter of time/luck

>>175582642
>USS
delet

>>175582642
wtf i hate prinz now

>>175582642
Where's the BLACKED logo?

Reminder to do your weekly Overlord

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>>175583748
>>175585808
>make ship
>shell lithuania like once
>go get nuked

bravo

>>175585910
NUKED

>>175588997
Fuck off, that's a tank.

does anyone wanna play T4

if not im jus gonna go play gran turismo 3

>>175592920
T4 you say? I could go for a few rounds. What ship you working on?

>>175592998
hatsuharu

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>>175593049
Perfect! Name?

>>175593268
heihu, i shall be on within i dunno, now.

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>tfw internet ded

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>>175593614
>tfw romanian

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>>175595206
>tfw Not Romanian

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>>175595206
I do not know this feeling

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>>175600449

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what exactly is this asking of me?

>>175604047
You get qualification points when you buy a t6 ship.

>>175604047
you get qualification and other things for your first ship to T3,4,5,6. But good lord that translation

How can I prepare myself to watch Das Boot the right way?

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>>175622961

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>>175623431
A fine guide

>>175622961
Know any other good sub movies?

>>175610895
Can't get over how derp she looks.

>>175623431
He can't even spell it correctly

>>175631778
Day of the depth charge when.

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>>175651297
>tfw never DC'd anyone in a CL because they always surface

>>175651489
Did you at least ram them?

Someone post a pic I can use as portrait for Mabnetic Torps please.

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>>175651852

>>175651852
Why not the torp with a magnet?

>>175654641
Well yeah that's the blender. But I need a pic to use as portrait.

>>175651689
This is important!

>>175651689
Well, they surfaced beneath me

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Check those stats

>only needed those 5 matches for gun upgrade

>>175661037
>only 4 MVPs

>>175661037
>Thinking that stats under 50 matches matter

>>175661037
Wew

>>175666889
They obviously don't

>>175654880
So pes 2017 wants a picture per player?

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>>175674541
Yeah, like here for instance.

>>175677495
I like it

Are feet battles liv?

>>175681573
no

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0-1 steel ocean
2-3 gran turismo 3
4-5 lego star wars 2
6-7 steel ocean except start a new line
8-9 absolutely nothing

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>>175683301

>>175683301
on the road to shiratsuyu

>>175683301
So where are you?

>>175683974
He was in when I checked.

>>175683974
i am not a man of my word and my friends have asked me to play rainbow 6 siege. do you actually want me to come online and group up or what

>>175684476
no

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>>175684476
nah, go to your friends and lay siege to thine enemies.

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sub removal

iite im done playing siege

whom'st'd've wanna play tier 4 and then 5

>>175691224
Gimme 10 minutes to finish up some portraits.

Please tell me there's someone that has a screenshot of being muted.

>>175692736
I know Salt has quite a number of them

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>>175697173
Meh. I managed to find one eventually. Eventually.

ded

>>175703497
now thats what im talkin about

why is drac0 that anime girl though

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>>175703923
For whatever reason he's compared to a slavic loli i.e. Vernyi.

>>175704240
TL's Note: Hostiles spotted means Ahh nu cheeki breeki i v damke

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>>175703497
beautiful

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>>175704240
I think Drac0 was dubbed as a Slavic Loli because it made his god awful performance with his suicide torp rushing for his first 6-8k matches not quite as painful.
And his english used to be worse.

>>175710040
how many games does drac0 have now? at what point do you get tired of this game? at what point do you actually start getting good at it?

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>>175703497

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>>175710472
Here you go.

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>>175729198
>nearing twenty thousand matches
>still in the low 60%

This is proof that shitters will NEVER EVER learn and should just kill themselves.

>>175729198
That's sad...

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>>175729198
>Has more master cannoneers than many players have total matches
wew

>>175730140
>Posted by someone that probably barely has 50 matches in T9 and got his winrate from clubbing T7

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Starting off the Wednesday early.

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>>175740453
Ah yes, it is Wednesday isn't it? Lovely.

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>>175741350
Fuck off home wrecker

>>175741350
That sausage is too watery.

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I wish I could play just for fun

>>175745465
what else would you play video games for

>>175745910
Trying to be the best in an attempt to compensate for your sad life

WHERE THE FB AT BOIS?

>>175748640
We're kind of lacking the F part.

>>175745949
nobody cares if youre the best at video games you know, try and find something else to be good at. something that is enjoyable.

>>175748640
Not here, and most of all not today

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>>175729198
>tfw better stats

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>>175738409
And I'm still better than you.

>>175757272
rude

what do german CA's offer over every other nation?

>>175774738
Hipper is a regular CA with good range, penetration and RoF. Tier 8 and up they become pocket battleships. Small, weak armor, slow and with actual battleships guns.

>>175775303
i actually only wanted the hipper desu

>>175745465
Cant play for fun too, becouse of the same reasons. I always start a new game in stellaris and play with it 1-2 hours and then restart becouse i think i suck.

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>>175782479

>>175782479
Now this is 40% tier aiming.

>>175782479
This is an abhorrent waste of pudding.

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>>175742408
indeed it appears so.

>>175785227
>chopsticks
STOP

>100k silver and 5 battles
Just fuck my 7th up.

>>175786016
You don't have over 10 million silver?

>>175790175
I don't, but I meant the login reward.

>>175790345
ouch. Think that's one of the worst ones.

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>>175785640
>Not okay with Forks
>Not okay with Chopsticks
So You'd prefer a hands on approach?

>>175786016
>50 gold on 2nd login
:^)

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Thank you for your post and continued support of the game.

Did the TS die?

>>175801952
yes, but it is back up now.

>>175811457
Made for praising.

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These are his stats across all botes. I have not seen him in a group.

>>175816861
>implying he's not cheating

>>175819572
What cheat are yo going to use in a CV?

>>175820353
>the memescript that lets you move all the squads at the same time
>the map revealer that the chinks used on the first months of the game

>>175816861
MM loves to put CVs only on one team these days. Hardly requires cheating if you're really good. I hear he's the number one on chinese server

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>>175822192
NOT CHEATS, U JUST IS OF NOT SKILL! GO BUY BUTTER MOUSE SO CAN CLICK FASTER!

>>175816861
Even with scripts 88 is fucking impressive.
>wiped the whole field once

I'm doing it. I'm starting british CCs.

>>175834209
Renown is suffering

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Oh, apparently got 300 gold from signing in yesterday. Neat.

>>175839550
I got 300 gold from signing in yesterday too

>>175839550
>>175840370
REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>175816861
>Log in
>See this
>What do

>>175840825
make them lose

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>>175841241
>CV says to Go DD
>Have no DD
>Did not listen to the idea of two CV
>Booted

>>175843303
What a surprise

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>>175843372
>Very first match wind up against his team

>>175843854
But did you win?
>Implying

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>Decide to start up jap BBs while I'm starting up Bong CCs
I killed that Kuma twice

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>>175844056
Depends how you look at it Every single match since we ended up sitting in queue for the last 10-12 minutes of the event because the others teams were chased off

But at one point I think we saw 5 teams in queue at the same time when we started in late so that was interesting.

>>175843303
How can RJ keep her twintails that puffy?

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>>175851703
a fine question.

>>175851703
How can any anime do that? Twintails actually use up most of the hair and you should be able to see their scalp where it parts. The hair volume is ridiculous.

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>>175851703
>>175854318
>Maybe she's born with it
>Maybe it's maybelline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AgkAUembtQ

ded

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>>175861448
>more yodoposting

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It's raining hotels.

>>175867919
slut

anyone wanna play t4?

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>>175875982
Sorry, I'm busy setting up to gass subs in Kancolle.

>>175876291
>kancolle

why not play a video game

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>>175876559
Because I still need to get someone to level 155.

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>>175875982
I'll do some T4 if you'd like.
>>175877039
>Going for the expensive Turkey Not a bad choice

>>175877187
awww yeah, be on in under 5

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>>175877579
Nice job in the matches.

>>175890427
thanks dude