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Make a new thread you lazy fucks

>Deck lists, news etc
hearthstonetopdecks.com
hearthpwn.com
hsreplay.com
http://thelightforge.com/it/TierList (Arena)

>Open Tournaments
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>/hsg/ Tournament
Signup Sheet: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSezW_F-LPJ8SRG7HvmDEH9ZqVTzKJMG-6wrVkRNR3BG4U2Yng/viewform?usp=sf_link
Tourney Discord: https://discord.gg/xHRA3Qz
Dates: April 28th-30th NA
May 5th - 7th EU
Prize Pool: 20$ Blizzbucks, a Gallon of Chocolate Milk
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top 100 for tfw someone spectates you and you lose
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Eloise butt
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Guys wanna watch my taunt warrior mirror simulator?
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Brawl and Taunt Warrior shouldn't be allowed to be in the same deck
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>lose my last game to a topdeck On the Hunt
>these are my 11 wins rewards

Just fuck my shit up.
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>>175382647

what did eloise mean by this?
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I beat the game guys.
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>have 4 minions on board
>wariror used both brawls
>fireball goes to my face
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>>175382647
i can see the underwear outline, are they pink or is it just the glare?
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>>175382857
Hacks
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>>175382982

pink or orange pantsu
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>>175382647
What butt? That shit is flat as fuck.
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>tfw still waiting for Intercollegiate packs

Seriously though, why such a wait?

Also, fuck Blizz they are Classic packs anyway fucking arseholes
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why does Reddit always pretend that aggro decks actually take skill to play?
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>>175383374

I'd rather have classic than anything else desu
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>>175383374

I don't mind that they're classic, just gets me closer to that pity timer tbqh
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>>175382850
WMAF confirmed best mix
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>>175383443
why does anyone always pretend that any decks actually take skill to play?
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>>175383443

i..i..it has fewer turns to make decisions!
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What's the kind of person who goes 0-3 in arena, anyway?
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>>175384009

not me
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>Taunt warrior is an anti-aggro deck
>it also beats every control deck

What did blizzard mean by this?
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>>175384009
See all those frogposters and feelsguyposters that frequent this thread, like this guy? >>175384107 Yeah, that's the type of people that go 0-3 in Arena.
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>>175384009
ive gone 0-3 or stopped caring when i picked warrior and got no weapons

not recently though
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>>175384305
I'm a frogposter and I've just gone 11 wins, you racist son of a bitch.
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>>175384009
I've only played arena once and it was when I first started years ago with the free ticket. I went 1-3.
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>>175384009
>he plays arena
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>against pirate warrior
>no crabs by turn two
>lose
>against any other class
>both crabs in starting hand
>lose
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IT'S

A-TEESH

NOT A-TE-ESH

FUCK YOU CASTER
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Koras voice makes me angry
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>>175385274
it's ATI - ESH, sperg
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>>175385470
You mean AMD - ESH
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Can the following people please report to the tournament discord for their matches:

Parasid#1105
Derp#1778
Ragnador#1363
Razorfoot#1368
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>>175385775
no
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>>175385775

No you're not my real dad
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>>175385775
>NA
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>>175386232
It's not like even cheap decks of other classes are any more fun than that.
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>>175384009
>bored
>fuck it i'll play some arena
>lose the first game
>RETIRE
>back to ladder

fuck that game mode. it was proven if you lose early your chances of finishing is substantially harder.
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What is the most degenerate deck and why is it Quest Rogue?
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>>175387035
Why not miracle rogue? Quest rogue is too weak to be degenerate.
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>>175387035
It's quest warrior, actually.
Slam shit on curve, then coinflip to victory.
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>>175387035
It's Jade Druid actuallly.

Literally ruins the entire expansion and makes all control decks unviable until it rotates out.
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>>175382502
How long will quest warrior likely remain a top deck?
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>>175388021
Until people start playing Paladin.

So until a week ago.
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>>175388021
Until it gets rotated out
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>>175388001
>they ACTUALLY thought this would be a fair and balanced card
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wait a minute theres fucking /vg/ tournaments? how does one enter these
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>>175388021
I'm playing Aggro Paladin with Murlocs and I'm completely STOMPING quest warrior.
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>>175388201
first thing you have to do is be a massive homosexual
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Where is this handsome hunk of meat from?
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>>175388201
add Vulenoy#2509 on EU

your Play a Friend quest serves as the ticket

if you don't have the quest and give him 80g, you don't get to play
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>ramp druid is actually pretty fun

why is this deck broken?
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>>175388592
Every single deck is broken at rank 11, anon.
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This card makes Firelands look like a joke in arena
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>>175388201
I have sign-ups every two months or so and we go for a weekend a region. It's fun and we have a banlist so no decks can be oppressive.
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>>175389007

It's fun and we have a secret banlist so no decks can be played.

FTFY
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>>175388934
portal has like 20 more score on heartharena

steed gets obliterated by polymorph/hex/silence
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>>175389243
You clearly haven't been watching the stream then.
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>>175389286
silences aren't usually drafted and 2 classes have access to poly
if they don't have it's a gamewinner
besides with the increased chance every pally has at least 2 of these
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>>175389373

I saw the special discord-only ban yesterday.
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>>175389416
also Sap

two most broken classes in the game (when it comes to arena) have frequent enough answers to this

sap/poly might actually be the things keeping paladin from being #1 in arena this expansion

steed is an amazing card nonetheless
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>>175389007
whats your ban list?
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>>175389631
it'll go down once the bonus to apparition goes down but it's much more likely than the pally has steed than that the other classes have transform removal or sap desu

and if you don't have a perfect answer in hand you get btfo by it
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This is the least interesting tournament set I may have ever seen.
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>>175389697
+Southsea Deckhand

Reaver forgot to add it when he made the NA image.
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every day until you like it
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>>175389789
what are EU bans
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>>175389798
But anon, I already like it.

>>175389853
Look at the picture, jesus christ.
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>>175389853
Are you blind?
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>>175389798
what the FUCK does he have to be so smug about???
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>>175389941
he's just happy to have food
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>>175389918
>>175389928
shut up he said NA in the image so I thought okay just shut up I don't have to take this shit from you
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>>175390132
You're right, you have to learn how to fucking read.
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>>175382647
>>175383138
~~~Flat is justice!!!~~~
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>tfw getting rank 5 on the last 2 days

I always feel like I'm not gonna make it, but I always do
feels good bros

also, what rank are you finishing this season /hsg/?
I've seen some legends around here, post'em
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This kills the pirate
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>EU eyesight
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>>175390264
Feels really good. First time at Legend.
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>>175388193
It still baffles me
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Our guy Tugay is losing boys
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>>175390778
Probably because he sucks.
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>>175390264
How much easier is wild legend, anyway?
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>>175390061
imagine how smug he would be if he also had shelter
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Holy fuck Dog is the last person undefeated in Swiss round, what a good boy.

I'm surprised that Noodle prepared [spoilers] and coin flipped Die Insects [/spoiler] to do very well, but there are a bunch of people at 7-1 and 6-2 I'd like to see do well like Shoop, TerrenceM, and Saiyan at 7-1.
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>>175390989
Why don't you tell us?
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>dog beats reynad

Best feeling

Who is/hsg/ streamer and why is it dog? Everyone else is reddit. Reynad is 9gag
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>>175391283
Pro-tip: You can easily spoiler the desired portions of your post by highlighting them, and pressing [CTRL] + S.
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>>175390989
It depends on whether or not you're playing Pirate Warrior/Renolock, then it's by far the easiest. Pirate Warrior with Death's Bite and Ship's Cannon is obscene
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>>175391309
I've never been legend in standard.
This took less than 200 games and in a bunch of them I wasn't even trying since I didn't plan on hitting legend at first, so I guess it was pretty easy.
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>>175391508
or he could just learn how to spoiler properly instead of being a filthy mongoloid
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>>175391584

Do people have Death's bite instead of Arcanite Reaper?
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>>175391602
That would work too, yeah.
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Whens the hsg tournie
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Chakki vs. TerrenceM rerun confirmed

S C R I P T ED

>>175391508
Tru, although right now I'm a filthy phoneposter
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>>175391758
Day 2 of streaming starts at 5pm EST, so in 10 minutes or so.
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>>175391737
2 Death's Bite, 1 Reaper usually. Look up Controltheboard's list, he literally won 25 FUCKING GAMES IN A ROW to highroll into rank 1 EU the other day.
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I hate tourneys. All the good streamers are gone
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Hot dinosaur on dinosaur action
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>Brawl still exists
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>>175391883
what times for the EU tournament? 'cause I have to be in bed by 22:00
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>>175391952

Thanks, I'll give that a try.
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>>175392441
I think it's next weekend, but someone would have to confirm that.
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>>175392567
yeh, but times

as in

hour
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>Cards that punish you for maintaining a board like the game intends
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Incoming "you throw this or you're fired match" with JustSaiyan vs. Noodle
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>>175392852
2pm EST
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Stream is live. Checking a few things to make sure I got people set up for matches.

Derp - Snacks is our opening match, after that is Firask - UpdateGuy.

twitch.
tv/hsgtournament
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>>175392886
>I played into AoE and got punished
>I didn't make a mistake, snowballing a board should be the only way to win this game
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>>175393169
t. freeze mage shitter who'd rather play solitaire
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>I'm joined by my two sons Noxious and Admirable
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>>175393049
no
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>>175393405
I asked Andy in the discord and that was the answer he gave. So, yes.
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>>175393297
As someone who prefers board centric classes heavily, he's right git gud and learn not to overextend. If you're playing Shaman or Warrior and he has 3 cards on the end of his hand he's not playing, it's probably gonna be a board clear.

Play around Swipe? Yup.
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Got from rank 5 to rank 2 with 26-12 (68%).
How much harder is it to reach legend than 5 to 2?
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>>175393169
>>175393573
Hahah, I played Murlocadin and Midrange Hunter to legend. You play around your opponent's options, this is basic card games.
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>>175393674
Last couple days will be tough, but with that winrate and at rank 2, it's just a matter of time.

What the hell is Keeper of the Grove in that deck for though. I've never seen that in Aggro Druid.
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>>175393535
that's 8 pm for EU fuck that noise dawg
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i have scrooge mcduck amounts of gold stored up and i desperately want to buy all the adventures i've yet to unlock

BUT is there a chance blizzard will discount them in the future? seeing as you can craft the cards in them anyway and adventures as a format are going obsolete. should i hold off for a while or just buy them for the full amount?
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Oh boy! time for the best part of hearthstone!

Quest warrior mirrors!

Woo hoo!

Good job team 5!
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>>175393851

FUCK OFF YOU STUPID SHIT
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>there are people ITT who unironically think this card is balanced
*tips axe*
heh greetings
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>>175393919
dirty rat has just made it way worse
especially now that warrior has a archetype that isnt just aggro
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>>175393317
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>>175393830
>Last couple days will be tough
Oh shit I forgot about that.

>What the hell is Keeper of the Grove in that deck for though. I've never seen that in Aggro Druid.
I just netdecked and added the fledgling for a golakka. But the keeper is pretty good for silencing taunts and doomsayers, sometimes setting up good trades.
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>both nourishes are the bottom five cards in my deck
hehe epic.... guess i just got outplayed...
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1 hour game inc
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Anyone else rope Pirate Warriors?

Dunno why, it just feels like the right thing to do. They're turns are 3~ seconds at most, so it's nice to make them wait so long
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>>175394162
Maybe put some more hate crabs in to eat the people playing Pirate Warrior / Quest Rogue / Murlocadin to try to make the last minute push themselves.
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>card rarity is supposed to be based on card complexity
>"can't attack" is apparently a more complex mechanic than "if your opponent's hand is empty, gain charge"
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>>175394367
Do you think they stare at their screen waiting for you? Everyone alt-tabs.
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haha

golden age of hearthstone

having a great time

team 5 is so great guys
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>>175394420
>card rarity is supposed to be based on card complexity
Who the fuck told you that?
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>when you can't read and end up late to the tourney and your meme decks won't be watched by /hsg/
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>>175393674
Your tech is tank but Aggro Druid is literally the best deck you can play right now to climb considering the late season aggro grind shift and it doesn't really matter what cheap shit you put in the deck, so you'll probably be fine, if you can get a winrate at rank 5 and below like that then you can certainly keep pushing on

>>175393851
>playing Quest Warrior to even allow the possibility of the mirror
>playing Quest Warrior at all

Congratulations, you played yourself. Taunt Warrior has literally been carrying Noodle this tournament
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>>175394613
Quest Warrior is Taunt Warrior you stupid fuck
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>>175394367
I really only do it to someone that spams emotes.
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Do I have any chance of hitting legend from rank 3 with a 59% win rate as midrange hunter? It feels like I get a lot of winstreaks when im not tilted and loss streaks when im tilted.
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>>175389416
>he doesnt pick every spellbreaker he can in the current arena meta
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>>175394885
Most people hit legend through streaks. Even just a streak of 2 or 3 wins during your last push cuts down the required average wins from like 150 to 60 so yeah, definitely go for it
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Daily reminder if you play

>Quest Rogue
>Taunt Warrior
>Freeze Mage
>Jade Druid
>midrange hunter

You are literally the problem as to why the meta has 0 variety
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>>175394589
Blizzard way back when, newfag-kun.
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>people think taunt warrior games are long
you must not remember vanilla wallet warrior or even justicar tank up warrior
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>>175395017
yeah, no
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>>175394885
I switched from Murlocadin to Mid Hunter to make my last push to legend myself. You can pull it off, just play your games out.

>>175395004
>Mentions 5 different decks
>They're not even any of the best decks
>Most diverse meta we've had in ages
>2/10
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digital gymnastics
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>>175395119
Yeah, yes.
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>>175394418
I might do that if they show up more often, but it's actually pretty diverse right now.
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>its a 20 card miracle turn but you fan of knives into a full board of minions with effects and it takes 30 seconds per card drawn
>tfw run out of rope and miss 26 damage
reeeeee cards with effects that work on your opponents turn are the hard counter to this deck
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>JustSaiyan has been let go from Team TempoStorm.
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>>175394885
>>175395181
can you anons post your midrange hunter lists? I'm playing it too, but I'm not sure my deck is that good.
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>>175394162
>>175394613
If you want to increase your winrate a little bit, this is the deck that many people use to get high legend right now. You can replace Eggnapper with Vicious Fledgling if you want but Eggnapper is sweet
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>>175395209
>still no source
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>>175395048
Not only that but why complain about long games at all? Long games have, by the very nature of turns, more interaction. Yes there is often RNG involved because its fucking Hearthstone but over the course of 25 turns versus 7 turns, you make more choices that you can fuck up on.

Patron vs Patron was one of the most skill intensive matchups because of this even though it was long and boring to watch.
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>>175395181
>"""Diverse""" meta

Nice to see the reddit shills have arrived

Also ranks 10-15 don't make a "variety meta"
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>>175395527
Just google it you fucking autistic monkey.

https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/720334509258981376
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>>175395346
This is what I used to make the last push. I switched one Deadly Shot for a Nesting Roc to deal with other aggro better at Rank 1 when there were less Taunt Warriors.

>>175395647
Try Legend, moron.
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>>175388001
>>175388193
>>175390675
>Cucktrol players STILL have seizures at the sight of Jade Idol

It's a fringe deck that barely sees play, stop whining and overreacting like your kind has been doing since the beginning of this fucking game, no one takes you seriously anymore.
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>>175394696
>uses them synonymous in the same post
>THEY'RE THE SAME THING YOU FUCK

What? I'm saying Reynad has been getting lucky with his coin flips
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first time hitting rank 5 that was actually the most infuriating shit ever

how on earth do you guys put up with this game
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>>175395647
Hearthstone's meta is way more diverse than Shadowverse, Eternal, Gwent, and MTG Standard (pre-ban) right now. And this is coming from someone who plays all those games pretty regularly. SV has a 2 deck meta, the rest have roughly a three deck meta with MTG being dominated by CopyCat which was recently banned and then Mardu
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>>175395687
>gut instinct
Jeez, sure is complex
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>>175395814
>Legend
>quest rogue
>le coinflip warrior
>freeze mage
>more le coinflip warrior

yeah it's a party up here :)
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>>175395647
>Secret Paladin
>Shamanstone
>Reno vs Pirates
It's the most diverse meta in a while.
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>>175395912
>moving goalposts
Typical rank 13 pirate warrior.
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>>175395889
Oh my bad, I thought you meant they were different decks.

I still don't understand the syntax of your post though.
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>>175393169
>>175393573
>I have 2 midrange minions to apply pressure without investing too much resources
>Rat+Brawl
>Rat pulls out my late game threath
>Rat survives

I guess that this is my fault somehow. I got outskilled by this control playing gentleman.
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>>175395885
I don't know where you've been, but Jade Druid is now a very relevant meta deck that serves as a counter to many slower decks and Paladin in legend ranks and tournament, it's sometimes preferred over Quest Rogue because it trades slightly less win-more matchups for a Freeze Mage advantage.
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>>175396073
>implying it's not going to narrow down to 3 decks
>implying people aren't to give up control because they can't stop le coinflip garrosh throwing 8 damage to their face every turn
>implying Quests aren't the worst idea since Karazhan cards


The last good time of this game was WoTG
Quests are bad, except for 2 of them (BRAVO BLIZZARD)
This game is dying
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>>175396396
>The last good time of this game was WoTG
Its funny because its true
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>>175396387
How are you supposed to beat Murloc Paladins with Jades? JD is slow as molasses in the early game, you will be overwhelmed by Murlocs, expecially considering that Druid's aoe and removals are shit. Ok, Primordial Drake is a welcome addition, but you will be mostly dead before you can play him
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>>175396580
>TGT highest
kek
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>>175396014
more like
>Paladin
>Egg Druid
>Paladin
>Quest Rogue
>Quest Rogue
>Quest Rogue
>Paladin
>Egg Druid
>Jade Druid
>Freeze :^)
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>>175389789
retard here, why two different banlists for regions?
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>>175396669
Ramp into big taunts is basically how Jade deals with aggro. Primordial Drake is much better on turn 5 or 6.
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>>175396265
It happens. Just cuck them next game, it's an even matchup so you can fuck him up as much as he fucks you up.

My opponent plays cards BabyRage
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>>175395346

Also got Legend yesterday switching from Murloc Paladin to Midrange Hunter.

Could only get Murlocs to Rank 2, after that I dropped to Rank 5, too many people countering. Used Midrange Hunter all the way from rank 5 4/5 to Legend.
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>>175395814
>>175396951
Am I being cucked by rat pack? I just don't have them. or bittertide hydras
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>>175395814
What could I put instead of Kindly Grandmother?
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>>175396396
>implying Paladin and Priest hasn't been pushing Taunt Warrior further out of the meta than it was.

Playrates are dropping for that deck right now, if people start to notice how busted Druid is though we'll start seeing more of him again. Or more Mage. Lots of Freeze Mage.
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>>175396878
I honestly can't see the Druid having the upper hand in that matchup. But I'd be glad to have it around, the thing I loved the most in Gadgetzan was putting the disgusting cucktrol scum in their place with my ever increasing jade cock.
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Token Druid isn't working anymore. Dragon Priest and Burn Mage are working overtime to cuck aggro at my rank. Not sure if its worth it to switch as there's still a decent amount of Paladin too.
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>This is being commentated over
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS STREAM JESUS HAHAHAHA THIS IS SOME GUERILLA TOURNAMENT BROADCASTING
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>>175397186
It was a great add, people use their resources on Hydra too much and one Rat Pack is good enough- just a setup for Houndmaster.

Be careful about rogues and priests when summoning Hydra with a big board- if they copied Unleash the Hounds, they can attack him for game.

Cat Trick was a last add in- running one or even two seems alright with Rogues, Mages, Priests, Druids, Warlocks using spells all the time- even with Paladin. Triggers when they play a Secret, too. But it's optional- I'd probably sub another two-drop if you don't have Cat Trick.
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The only regularly scheduled one charges 20 bucks to attend because they rent out a bar for the night and I don't care enough to make a new account on every phone I can find just to qualify for a fireside.
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We spare no expense
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>>175397186
Rat Pack can be really good, Rat Pack turn 3 into Houndmaster turn 4 is about as strong a board swing as you can get, and it synergizes great with Tundra Rhino / Crackling Razormaw / Scavenging Hyena. I don't run Hydra either. Might run secrets instead.

>>175397236
1400 Gold in Karazhan. It's a good card. But I might run like, Dire Wolf Alpha I guess. They're card 31 and 32 for me.
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>>175396076
>ad hominem
Time to stop posting, mate.
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>Blizzard's spectator client is completely broken and there is nothing anyone can do about it, even at Blizzard tournaments because there's no other way to show the game

Nice.

>>175397236
1 more Crawler, Bow, Trogg Beastrager, Dire Wolf
>>175397186
Vicious Fledgling :^)
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>>175396951
>too many people countering
I found this too. At rank 2-1 everyone is playing Hungry Crab. I had to swap off of it.
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>Kacem "Noxious" Khilaji
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>>175398269
>tfw rogue bounces hungry crab to eat another murloc

truly disgusting
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>Triple Ice Block Hand
>With Ice Block up
Absolutely disgusting.
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>Four Ice Blocks

Great game Blizzard
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lol wtf is this reynad v justdaiyan game, at one point reynad had 4 iceblocks in hand, just sayain has 1 up with 1 in hand, both 3 hp

iceblock bamboo torture
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LOSE WITH 4 ICEBLOCKS BRO?
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>>175399247
>>175399060
>>175399069
>the one with 4 iceblocks lost cause he spent all his mana trying to Alextraza

lmao
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>4 Ice blocks
>Still lose
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>People think Taunt mirrors are the most cancerous
>Not Freeze mirrors
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PSA:
Justsaiyan FIRED from tempostorm
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Reminder, reynad is a shitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_6_wYoi4DY&t=9333s

https://www.twitch.
tv/videos/138119952?t=01h49m32s
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>Strifecro brought Jade Concede Shaman

The madman! Also just announced Justsaiyan has been let go from Tempostorm after that tilter
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>another one with colored hair
frodan contagious faggotry needs to be stopped
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>playing pirate warrior for fun as legend
a-am i degenerate

I never played the deck much and I like how patches comes in and how fast the games are.
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>>175399731
but saiyan won
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>>175399792
classic NA citizens

>Reynad eliminated early
KEK
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>>175399731
guy literally looks like a turtle
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>>175399932
>Reynad eliminated
he's not though
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The ghostly cursor is the best part of the stream
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which commentator was that, like hed been bet to slip in words

"i like my cards to GIDDY UP if you know what i mean" fucking planted pony
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>>175399826

Pirate Warrior feels like a different game entirely to me
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>avenging wrath hitting face 4/6 times with 5 minions on the board for exact lethal

wew lads that was close
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should i dust finja if i dont warleaders?
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>>175399856
>the joke
>your head
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>>175400072
You have mental illness.
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>>175399856
Over his boss which would piss him off, is the joke.

There are only 19 people at 1 or 2 losses at this point and Noodle has a good record, so he's basically guaranteed top 16. Who's at 7-1 and going to choke? I'm rooting for my boy Shoop to make it, Pavel and Eloise might miss the cut on tiebreakers.
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>>175400210
no
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>control shaman mirror
only a strife match
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>>175400328
but i cant do anything with him
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>>175400210
Finja package is great. Craft warleaders instead.
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>this stream

Fuck my life, so slow, roping turn 1, wtf was he going to do, coin+totem?
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>>175400371
>dusting what is one of the best cards for a tier 1 deck

why are you even playing hs
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>>175400419
but i still want lyra
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>>175400250
Not him but you are probably a monolingual plebeian

>>175399932
>implying that's not a more EU thing to do

I guess Sweden and Germany aren't representative of the whole. Or are they?
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if you unironically use the word """"package""""""""" when referring to a specific set of cards I WILL FUCKING FIND YOU AND I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU REDDITORS.
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If I have Kalimos, Hemet, rogue and warrior quest, is there another good lego from UG that I need? I can only think of Lyra.
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>>175400629
Okay then, what group noun should I use then oh great linguistic overlord?
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>>175400629
you're just upset no one wants your package
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>>175400532
im a f2player
i always have to make sacrifices
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>>175400745
Sunkeeper Tarim has proven to be fantastic for both aggressive pressure and tempo board swings.

Elise is being played in Control Priest decks to fish out with Shadow Visions, we'll see if that proves to just be a meme though.

Sherazin is being played in Miracle Rogue to good effect.
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>playing Casual
>play testing Barnabus Druid
>suddenly a golden pirate warrior
>with the fucking GOLDEN CELEBRATION cardback
For those who don't know, the only way to get this is finish in the top 60ish in the Asian servers
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>>175400629
I hated the 'water' term for murlocs more than package. So, whatever.
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>>175400629
Even better is when Admirable constantly uses the word "build" to describe a deck with certain packages/tech cards throughout the match :^)

>>175400745
Tareem, Sherazin
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>>175400893
it's a keeper desu

murlocs will always be good at aggro
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>>175400931
That's not true anymore. Especially if you are playing on the EU/NA servers.

That shit doesn't transfer over.
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>professional childrens card game palyer
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>>175400927

I forgot about Tarim, thanks.
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>>175400931
Just letting the nephew play a game without tanking his rank.
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>>175400893

If you're f2p then finja is arguably the best lego you could have
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>devolve the enemies minions into stronger ones than before
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is there any deck that can hit rank 5 fast?
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>>175401293
the problem is that it bears the requirement of two epics
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>>175401531
Midrange hunter
Token druid

Your usual suspects of just burying someone's face into the floor
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>>175401548

Yeah that sucks but you will have a genuinely competitive deck when you get them.
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>>175401531
Pirate Warrior / Quest Rogue / Murlocadin / Midrange Hunter / Token Druid / Whatever the heck you wanna play.
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>>175400893
You will IMMEDIATELY regret your decision anon, just wait. Lyra is MUCH more replaceable and less relevant than Finja is.

Top 12 Guaranteed:
Dog
Alan
Saiyan
TerrenceM
Astrogation
MrLEGO
Ryder
Reynad
shoop
languagehacker
Eloise
Trump

Chakki is likely in, Amnesia on the edge after this match I think
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>>175401428

Overload minions should not be allowed.
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>gay fag lost
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did they get him a box to stand on
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>>175401920
I want to slap her tits
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If you're constantly queuing into bad matchups, is it viable to just wait a few hours to see if the meta at that rank shifts? I'm seeing the same players over and over. Swapping decks seems like a bad idea.
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>add rando because i liked their deck and gave them the win since im legend already
>they're at rank 3 to 1
>they vent to me their struggles climbing as i watch them play
>feel the rush i had when i was climbing to legend myself
>tfw they take a break from the game after losing enough
>one of the guys i watched gave up for the season even if they're at rank 2
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>>175402427
What rank and what deck? Why don't you think you should swap decks?
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>>175401715
Stop posting lewd Valeera
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>>175400752
NOTHING.
just list the cards in question.

>>175400935
>water
it was SPECIFICALLY Reddit shitters that coined this disgusting term.
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>>175402427
If you're playing against the same players then changing your deck can be a good idea.
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>>175401715
okay well what deck is finja still good in this meta?
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>>175402841

Water rogue is still bretty gud
>>
>dirty rat into brawl
>dirty rat wins
>out of 7 cards


Haha I love it Ben Brode.
Stories to tell my friends
Like how I'll tell them to never play this awful game
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>>175399696
>*coins 3 damage removal in ur general direction*
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>>175402841

token druid
aggro murloc paladin
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>>175403064
isnt he too slow in token druid??
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>>175402973

Yeah but you don't make sad autismal posts about the times that doesn't happen.
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>Woof Boy sole undefeated player in Swiss round

FrankerZ SHIRTS OFF EVERYONE FrankerZ
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>>175403158
Even if doesn't happen it still is a horrible thing

Just play around it :)

Never play cards :)
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Taunt Warrior help?

Already got the Stonehill Defender package, but thinking about adding in Public Defender package?

Not got Karazhan, is the Curator package worth it?

Also, what other packages are good?

Got Fiery War Axe package included, but any other weapon package such as Arcanite Reaper package or Goerhowl package? These packages are kind of weird compared to Fiery War axe package, as if I include those packages I'll probably already have my Sulfuras package. Then again the Sulfuras package eventually breaks, so maybe those packages ARE good?

Card draw feels week sometimes - considering Battle Rage package or Loot Hoarder package. Seen a lot of people run the Acolyte of Pain package, which makes sense as the Whirlwind package and Ravaging Ghoul package have good synergy with that package.

What do?
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is it a good idea to not play swashburglar on turn 1 against priest when you already have sherazin in your hand?

it does increase your chances of drawing patches, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. its another 2 cards you can feed to the corpse flower. it also plays around their turn 1 northshire cleric and denies draws.
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>>175403301
Is this a reddit meme
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>>175403147

at least i've seen them and it's horrible when it works out, warlords healing finja back up, then the buffs. played on empty board it sets up huge swing turn that is hard to prevent.
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>>175403339
>rolling scrubs in casual with your ebin leg-end net deck you found on Leddit XD
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>>175403339
>thinking any of your decisions actually matter in Hearthstone
lol it's just random bro
just play whatever and let the coin flip
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>>175403147
It's come around to being a staple. Water Rogue, Murloc Paladin, Water Druid, Water Warrior are all very good in this format

>>175402668
No, Valeera is for fug
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>>175403339

If they have pot of madness then it's better to be used early than late. It's not a terrible thing to have them healing a cleric in early turns as long as you can take the board.
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>>175403301
>package
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>get legend
>ben brode tells me i can suck his cock now

life is great as a hearthcuck
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>>175403569
>>175403484
oh alright! i crafted the warleaders
i hope murlocs are fun
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>just dicking around at rank 5 0 stars
>seeing all these people with taunt warrior desperately tryharding their way up
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>>175403842
What is it that makes "package" so triggering?
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>>175402579
Rank 2 token druid. I got to rank 1-1star this morning rather easy but its a lot of mage and hunter now which are stopping me really hard. I'm not really sure what to even swap for against that and its pretty typical that when you swap decks, you stop seeing what you expect.
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Is this greatest HS team of all time?
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>add in the Murloc parcel
>remove the Elementals parcel
>suddenly rank 15

Feels good man
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>>175404636
where is Gaara and Hype?
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>>175404528
makes you think about cocks
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>>175404528
Nboody uses "package" anymore, as it has sexist/misogynist interpretations for male genitalia.

Everyone on Reddit is using the neutral "parcel" now
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>>175404528
the """package""""""" terminology is Reddit's attempt to legitimize Hearthstone as a competitive esport.

it's not.
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>Beat multiple taunt warriors by turn 6
>everytime they try to add me afterwards

Is this normal
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>>175403938
Is this the German Santa Clause?
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>>175404709
Hyp3d is dead and gaara apparently isn't important enough for them to fly out.
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>>175404636
>all smart
>all beautiful
>all self-accomplished
they have it all and more. of course they're the best
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>>175404545
Aggro Druid doesn't have much bad match-ups, just stick it out probably.
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>>175403534
>not doing this

>>175403565
it is not uncommon for me to lose a game by 1 damage because i forgot to hit face with a dagger charge 12 turns earlier.

every decision matters.

>>175403614
potion of madness doesn't do much though. the 1/1s are mostly for show (unless they steal thanlos). in control matchups getting value out of sherazin is your win condition, especially against priest where you will rarely draw good value cards from things like hallucinate.
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>>175405024
>>175404636
>reynad literally got rid of all the original TS members and replaced them with asians

kek
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>>175404362
Nothing feels better than getting a Finja nut turn, it's the only 5 drop any aggro deck would ever consider keeping in the mulligan because it's so strong. Water Rogue is more expensive if you don't have Vilespine Slayers and Shaku, but if you are lacking Southsea Captains for Pirate Warrior you can throw that in right now, or play a budget Aggro Druid list (Living Mana helps you win games you otherwise can't without it, though)
>>
>>175405024
Hyped was at dreamhack playing Hearthstone.
>>
>>175390264
I came back after like 6 months and the only standard deck I could make was midrange hunter.
Climbed to 15 from 25 after going 18-4 with it but I'm not sure I feel like climbing more.

Maybe I'll try going to 10 but 5 seems a bit too much right now, considering the season is almost done.
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>>175405254
You can do it, if you've got some time and want that golden epic card.
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>>175405062
>dirty rat priest
idk man, these fucks are determined to make sure aggro doesnt climb right now
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>>175405025
>>all smart
It's a card game, doesn't require too much skill

>all beautiful
>any of them close to 5/10

>any of them close to 5/10
I'll give you Reynad and Trump, the rest aren't even close to accomplished outside of Hearthstone
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>>175405534
>5/10
>Implying Reynad doesn't have the forehead of a Greek God.
>>
i missed everything today.

PLEASE FUCKING EXPLAIN HOW TRUMP MADE THE 16 AND NOT STRIFECRO
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>>175405140
Maybe Shieldbearers do.

Just something pathetic, and almost sad seeing you steamroller someone who probably just installed the game with their Chillwind Yeti on board VS your legendary board like the arsehole you are.

Funny though, he got you to 12 health :^) I doubt you're even a Shieldbearer
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>Hearthstone doesnt take skill

Riddle me this then, how come there are so many well known names in the top 16 out of hundreds?
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>>175405580
>tempostorm aren't playing each other at least once
the fix is in
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>>175405024
What? Hyped quit and is playing OW for Immortals now, although he competed in Dreamhack for fun and cucked some people in bracket anyway. Many EU players didn't go out, including most of G2, Alliance, Virtus.Pro, etc. VLPS crashed and burned in bracket. Eloise IS the future of Tempostorm

>Chakki vs. TerrenceM Ro16
>Dog vs. Amnesia_SC
>catdestroyer vs. Dog

Jebaited
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>>175405240
how many living manas are normally run?
i guess i could dust black knight for one
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>FIrelands portal into a fucking earth elemental

When are overload minions going to be removed from this RNG bullshut?
>>
About to pull the trigger and install the Dirty Rat package into my Priest deck.


You mad fags?
>>
>>175405706
>>175405580
Surely the positioning must be determined by their records, DOG has the best, so he should be playing against the weakest opponent
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>>175405773
People are actually running Black Knight as techs in this meta on occasion. It may finally be this time.
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>>175405534
>Reynad
>accomplished
MTG wash up.
college dropout.
runs a shitty website.
got his ass handed to him by VS Data i.e. the real statisticians when he got uppity about the validity of their meta snapshot.

Noodle is a fraud :/
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>bend down and grab ben brode's cock and try to suck it while he's on a business call
>ben grabs me by the ear before I get to land his cock on my tongue
>"How many fucking times do I have to tell you? You have to get legend in standard to touch my cock, you filthy shieldbearer."
>he shoves me in the basement
>i fall on to the floor crying
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>>175405686
The overall record of the opponents he faced was greater than the Cro's, he was 17th behind Yung Savage, that's how Swiss format works
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU9VXafxdFs

>2017
>not listening to weeaboo tunes
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>>175405876
>college dropout.
reynad didnt even go to college and he barely finished high school
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>>175405870
okay how about i dust cairne? i dont have n'zoth and if he's too slow in this meta, he'll surely be too slow in the next, right?
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>Primordial glyph into move ice blocks
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>>175405987
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>>175405876
You can hate him for being a total asshole like everyone else, but he's a good business man that now runs a pretty successful eSports team. Getting a buy-in to even a challenger LCS spot is a big deal for an organization, and he has huge brand recognition with Hearthstone.
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Dog is so handsome

no homo
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>>175406128
even worse, then.

at least Reynad is a fun, enthusiastic, likable guy.

oh wait...
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>>175405691
gg ez
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>>175406148
I'd just wait and not do something I'd regret personally. But maybe I'm just more risk averse than you.
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>>175405534
when eloise first started streaming she was a fucking 10/10 chinese waifu before she dyed her hair and got chubby. dank memes, not even once.
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>>175406148
Cairne isn't that bad right now. But you do need N'zoth.
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>>175405876
You forgot to mention his most important accomplishment. He comes back to this in his hotel room every night.
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>build my own deck
>on a 6 game win streak

What is this feeling hsg
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Why the fuck are these people writing shit down?
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>>175406518
autism
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>>175406510

This is how it should be
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>>175405773
If you don't have Living Mana yet, don't worry about it, it's still a very strong deck without it, having the water package is way more important and you have it now. The Black Knight is a very handy tech card to hold on to, it's even starting to see fairly common play now.
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>>175406518
They're autistic enough to keep track of their opponents card

It's Hearthstone deck tracker: Pen and Paper edition
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>>175406518
I think they're tracking opponent decks and cards played for reference since they can't use deck trackers. Or make sure they remember what tech cards their opponents are playing.
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>>175406510
feeling of being a low rank shitter
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>>175406639
I'm rank 4 though
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>>175406358
honestly, im kind of desperate for good decks. the best one i have is a mediocre (at best) quest priest that has me stuck at 15
>>175406398
well i only got finja because i knew i was close to my pity timer. maybe im close on old gods
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>>175406628
>>175406625
But, most decks have like 15 at most cards duplicated.

Is there memory that bad?
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Any pics of kelly?
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hydrologist-arcanologist was a mistake.
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>>175406767
It's to keep track of what's played

It's better than stressing out on trying to remember
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>>175406432
True, but I would say there is a 0% chance they have hooked up. Eloise is awkward af and Noodle seems a bit JUST despite being arrogant and doing well financially
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>>175406767
When you've been playing 12 hours of Hearthstone today, absolutely.

Did they play two consecrations this game? Or was it the game three hours ago?
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>>175406742
t. shieldbearer
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>>175406967
Is this the birth of an epic meme?
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>>175406895
>Noodle seems a bit JUST
why hasn't anyone shopped the JUST hair on a picture of Noodle yet?

it seems so obvious.
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>>175406767
It's a blind format, you don't fully know your opponent's deck so it's nice to keep track of their tech decisions to know what to play around/track what the last card in their hand that they are not playing might be
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>>175406008
>that's how Swiss format works

well i don't like it
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>dog banned priest
?
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>Amnesiac winning
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>Control Paladin from Dog
memes
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>>175406510
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>It's balanced because its random
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Is it just me or is this card a bit too strong? It's a stronger and cheaper flamestrike, basically.
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hahaahhahaah holy fuck how is murloc tribal bullshit even balanced

Poor dog, getting beaten by a spastic autistic 16 year old
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Is Amnesiac an idiot? He found the one way to lose.
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>>175407393
I agree with you, I would have much rather seen The Cro's fucking greedy ass lineup in top 16. Nobody outvalues The Cro.

>>175407418
Except maybe dog? He brought an all control/anti-aggro lineup and priest shits on those types of decks with the pack value etc. I wonder what his secret meme tech is?
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>>175408131
...
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>>175408131
wtf I hate amnesia now
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>>175408396
t. reddit
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>one win away from highest rank of season
>get BTFO by some stupid shit
>repeat
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>>175408258
Amnesia knows he's running out of gas and has no chance in the lategame, so he went for it to close it out as quick as possible because he probably thought not having removal now is a better shot than putting up another board. Never lucky rubber ducky.
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>>175408454
Keep us updated if you reach Shieldbearer mate
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So many crabs
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just surrender turn 3
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Dog streamsniping confirmed
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is this autist's name Amnesia, Amnesiac or Amnesiasc. I swear it changes every tournament.
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>>175408774
>Amnesiac
that one,for a long time now
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>>175408634
I hate blizzards balance choices because we have no legitimate side-board, just throw more overstatted anti-deck cards into every deck that when they work they work too well and if they don't its a dead draw that ruins deck synergy.
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>>175408774
his name is The Young Garbage.
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>>175408774
His original name is Amnesia_SC, but it was billed wrong in the Blizzard tournament as Amnesiac that he's forced to queue in other tournaments as that now because everyone already called him that when he won the Winter Prelim last year, kek

He only responds to Yung Savage now TheRinger
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Amnesiac getting bodied. There is Justice in this world.
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Dog is our literal hero
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sick hand
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>>175408867
since when? He was literally amnesiasc at the world championship and some tourney earlier this year
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>>175409134
no, he wasn't
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>Pirate Warrior

Oh well, Autisiac lost
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>good pirate warrior player
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My shaman deck just beat this in a fatigue game, 5 operatives, triple elise pack.
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>aspergers brings all aggro cancer there is
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>>175408267
it also stings that Trump is such an arrogant, rude, unlikable piece of shit.

at least i have someone to root against.
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Dog going full fedora and getting rewarded, interesting. I've already netdecked the list Amnesia is running by writing it down tho, I'm going to fucking wreck my way to rank 5 next season with it.

Yup
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wheres the decklists or are they only public to the players
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Respectful Decks now that I got Legend Edition:

Respectful:
Petal Rogue
Midrange Paladin (no Murlocs save for Hydrologist)
Midrange Hunter
Ramp Druid
Burn Mage
Murloc Shaman
Elemental Shaman
Decks made with under 1k dust and get to at least Rank 10 or higher

Ok:
Aggro Druid
Zoo Warlock
Burn Mage
Lyra Priest
Silence Priest

Cancer:
Taunt Warrior
Pirate Warrior
Murloc Paladin
Crystal Rogue
Freeze Mage

Fun:
Queen Hunter
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>>175409384
you know the decklists are public, right?
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>>175409458
link
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why are we supposed to hate him, again?
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BASED

FUCKING

DOG

MY HANDSOME BOTHER
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>>175409552
they're on hearthpwn
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>>175409246
Do you remember when Chakki, Nostam, etc. literally brought pirate hooks to cosplay at the wotog Spring Prelims? Those guys always bring aggressive lineups because they think they are more consistent to win (I'd do whatever I could to win thousands of dollars).

Just look at the "Muzzy lineup" from Winter Prelims this year (Aggro Rogue, Pirate Warrior, Tempo Mage, Aggro Shaman). He just happened to run into his counter in bracket and got hard punished. TerrenceM is a greedy Kazakus Priest player so I'm sure it will be similar in his match vs. Chakki
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>>175409773
He's a small child who talks shit and thinks much more highly of himself than he's actually capable of playing. Talks shit and immature.
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>>175409184
google amnesiasc world championship 2016 retard

>meanwhile, based dog crushes young garbage
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>>175409773
He's a huge cunt.
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>>175409913
but pavel is a shitter that won blizzcon because of rng

amnesiac isnt wrong about that
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based TJ
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>>175409773
the lighting made it look like he had a skin condition
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>Control Paladin is running hell over a tournament

Never thought I'd see the day
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who is more unlikable amnesiac or xixo?
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>>175409773
>runs agroshit exclusive line up
>will shoot if you are his classmate
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>>175410064
Control paladin is fun on ladder too.
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>>175410017
>trash talking others
>misses super easy lethal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUI8kIaWzuk

young garbage AKA autismsc everyone
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>>175409458
Public as in someone else wrote them down before me, oh well.

Teej still blazed

>>175409184
see
>>175408962
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>>175409913
See
>>175408396

only his btag has the s
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>>175410064
heal is cheat
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>>175410017
Pavel is also a very high consistency player. His luck wasn't that unusual, Amnesiac just got one notable bad shake and was a big baby over it.
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>>175409864
not seeing em
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based dog working the obese reddit smarks
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>>175410076
In general they could come off as unlikeable, but they aight. Xixo is a meme factory though, he's almost an Aussie tier shitposter
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>>175410423
Gonna need you to fuck back off to /asp/
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>>175410434
Rock - Rogue
Paper - Priest/Paladin
Scissors - Shaman
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>>175410076
Trump
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>>175410705
clockwork
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>wasting your nigger intellect on Hearthstone

THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF SMART NEGROIDS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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Fuck Hunters and their repetitive plays and limitless board presence
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Do you like the new mgrgl meta, hsg?
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>>175411281
literally the most honest class in the game
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>game over by turn fucking 3

MURLOCS AM I RIGHT
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>>175410763
>Rogue
>not scissors
>Aggro
>not rock
>Paper
>not Taunt Warrior

C'mon man. Ya blew it.

I love that TerrenceM always spams his emote alongside a golden 4-part Trihex when he is referred to in chat. Nice curve bro
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GOD DAMN IT, PRIEST

ALWAYS BREAKING THE GAME WITH SHADOW VISIONS
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>>175411335
>uses a card that gives charge to cards that shouldn't have it
>honest

Have you forgotten about what happened to patron warrior?
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>>175411510
>C'mon man. Ya blew it.
are you dense
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>>175411524
>It's a 5 mana 2/5
It's a lot more effort for less value than Patrons. It can certainly do good stuff, but you need to play it and get it to stick.
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Someone have a decklist of the "best" dragon priest out there right now?
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>>175411616
I'm just joshing you m80. The triangle obviously is the same no matter how you arrange them.
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>>175411740
There's no consensus on it. I'll show you my list, it's picked up a positive winrate from ranks 3-Legend.
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>>175411524
Except Tundra Rhino requires on board 2-turn setup in almost every relevant case, is a 5 mana 2/5, has been in the game as a relatively neglected option, etc.?
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>>175411968
I made this. I really don't want the inner fire combo stuff
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>>175411968
This is essentially the list that can be teched to your desire. I personally play

-1 Potion
-1 Lyra
+1 SW:D
+1 Primordial Drake or Ysera (on the fence)

You can put an ooze in for pirates, keep 2 potions for token Druid, whatever. I actually think 2 Inner Fire might be really good. It's a pretty refined list with like 25 similar cards between lists, like Pirate Warrior last xpac. It's a fun deck to cuck Warriors and Paladins and Shamans like in this tourney match
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playing against mage feels so pointless

like you aren't playing against a human being or anything
you're just playing against a gigantic roulette

the entire game is going to be decided by random effects and random cards generated
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>>175412403
I like it. Primordial Drake, Twilight Drake, Priest of the Feast, Kabal Talonpriest means you're usually getting some high health minions, Divine Spirit can really get value letting you trade and control the board.
>>
>>175412403
>>175412681
I removed 1 primordial for a golakka
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>>175412115
And Warsong Commander was the most used card in warrior before patron right? Giving charge to things is the most degenerate ability in the game. Don't call it honest when it's not.
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>>175412624
>>175412731
This deck can also make room for playing Crabstone, as well.

>>175412403
>>175412681
But anons, the Inner Fire Divine Spirit combo is fun
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>>175412624
Ysera is a touch too greedy for my taste, but in the right meta could be good.
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>>175412928
yeye I'm sure it's fun, It's not my play style though
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>>175412749
I mean, I don't really care about this whole "honest" meme anyway. Just play around your opponents cards to the best of your ability. It's a game of statistics and tilt, that's all. Burn =/=
"degeneracy" in all cases, Rexxar is just RDW
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>tfw you realize this meta is just who crabs whos pirate/murloc wins
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>>175412947
That's why I switch between the two top end options. It used to be 1 Drake 1 Deathwing, but I felt I never actually wanted to discard my hand and Ysera is even better in grindy matchups, while 2 Drakes is better vs. aggro full stop
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>Get madly tilted on a losing streak
>Finally cave and make a Pirate Warrior deck
>Have been unstoppable since

How the fuck did Blizzard think this is a good idea?

Also, I feel filthy playing this deck. Someone please kill me.
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Jesus fucking christ, these castors are annoying
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>>175413963
Maybe this is what Blizzard planned all along

Make all decks so shitty, people cave in and make a deck so cancerous, everyone will use it

Forces people to disenchant the 'fun' cards to craft these expensive decks or to buy packs

Those evil bitches
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That game was a cheek clencher monkaOMEGA
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>>175414210
But Pirate Warrior is one of the cheapest meta decks, it's just that cheap aggro will always be underestimated/unavoidable in card games without stupid strong control tools that tilts people off the face of the planet, like YGO!
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>all those bounce draws

what a fucking joke lmao
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>>175414214
>fatass picture angle

You cant hide your obesity, cora.
Songbird,more like songhippo lmao
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*inhales*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>175414532
dont worry, blizzard will gut quest rogue after dreamhack, just like they did with patron warrior

all while saying

>the deck wasnt bad it had a 50% win rate

they know it just makes the game look worse in tournaments
and hearthstone cannot handle that>>175396580

that low point between BRM and TGT was patron warrior
>>
The hunter quest is so fucking bad

I can't figure out a fucking way to make it work
>>
>>175414876
>The hunter quest is so fucking bad
>The paladin quest is so fucking bad
>The warlock quest is so fucking bad
>The druid quest is so fucking bad
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>>175414685
the most upvoted post is something like
>well done, sir! May the Brode be with you on your path to legend :^)
isnt it?

And hes probably edited his post to say "Edit: Wow, thanks for all the upvotes :D"
>>
>>175414934
>WotG
>make 3 old gods
>all work

>This hideous travesty
>make quests for all classes
>only 2 are playable
>>
>>175414780
Quests are legit terrible design, and Quest rogue is the pinnacle of everything wrong with them, no interactive, extreme feast vs famine scenarios, flat out shits all over even its counters if it gets a good opener/draws.

I don't think its the end of the world or anything(but you can see it from here), but its only indicative of what the next 2 years is going to be like as every new card is weighed against quests for their value.
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>>175415014
>3 Old Gods
>Anon...
>>
>>175415062
I'm concertned about that the most

Quest rogue will forever be broken for the next 2 years because free 5/5s will always be great value. It never can't be.

The other quests are a little more forgivable but the value of quest rogue is fucking retarded
>>
>>175415014

Clearly not all the Old Gods worked if you can only remember three of the four they made.
>>
>>175415203
>>175415302
Whoops, I actually forgot about n'zoth

But yeah all of them worked in a certain capacity
>>
>>175415203
>>175415302
y'shaarj is shit
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>>175415406
That's the point.

Also, it's not like Yogg-Saron was exactly beloved competitively at release. Painting a very inaccurate picture here.
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>tfw beating control decks on turn 4-5 with beast druid

Thanks for the dirty rat into my 5 drop
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>>175414210
I always think that gif is Kibler
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>/fgg/ makes top 16 of Dreamhack

nice
>>
>>175415820
who's from /fgg/?
>>
>>175415893
Danke, he obviously browses it but he doesn't trip or namefag
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>>175415501
They should have just banned him from tournament play. Nerfing him was fucking stupid.
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>started playing right before gvg;s launch
>first golden legendary
>It's jungle giants
Can I make this card more useful than 1600 dust?
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>>175416074
I can understand why they wouldn't ban cards at competitive play though; they want competition to feel like ladder does too, wouldn't like it if tournaments play a different game with different cards.
>>
>>175415998
And why would you think this? /vg/ is a low volume board with regular posters and there are more people who like fighting games out there...

Boy does /fgg/ sure know their T H I C C tho. Something manlets in this general neglect
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Soon Kripp...

Soon...
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>>175416337
Hold on until the next expansion releases. Really blindside him with it.
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>>175416403
Sounds good.

I can always arena on my ftp account anyways.
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>>175416223
you mean tgt?
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>>175416756
I can hear it now, Kripp moaning when the Booty Bay Bodyguard drops: "That's the FIRST bad card he's played this game, what the fuck,"
>>
>>175416954
>that C'mon maaaaaaan after the flame cannon
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>Play 4 minions with the same name
B-but why did the first novice engineer he played count as 1/4 /hsg/? Shouldnt the second be 1/4?
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is it me or is this card wrong

the way its spelt would make me think if i took 15 damage but healed back to full the card would cost 10
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>>175417185
If you can't count to four, you should go back to school.
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I need 84 wins with Shaman to get the gold portrait.

Is Ele Shaman really the least mediocre shaman deck right now? It's so goddamn boring.
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>>175417341
Wild counts for gold portrait.
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>>175417413
does wild also count for the legendary card back?
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>>175417524
Obviously. But don't run the legend card back
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>>175417581
Why not? I just hit Legend and I'm running it now.
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Why the fuck is Hungry Crab epic?
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>>175417692
>I'm running it now.
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>>175417581
Legend cardback is comfy and has lost all pretentiousness associated with it like two years ago.
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>>175417903
So you buy more packs to tech against decks.
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>>175417903
Most meme cards are epic and crab used to be a meme card.
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>>175417903
It was a ridiculous tech card against a strategy they didn't think would be dominant.
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>topdicks boar for lethal
>MLGstone LUL
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>>175417995
Yeah now it just makes you look like a 35 year old man wearing his 8th grade talent show blue ribbon.
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>>175417581
I wont, I just want it :p using the overwatch back
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>>175417692
I mean you can I'm not going to stop you, it just tends to ring out as the "look at me I reached legend once and will forever use it and be smug at rank 4 because I'm a REAL player" cardback. It does look nice tho, but Tournament Grounds is my calling
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>>175418063
But then the same people made it dominant.
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Danke is about to cry.
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>>175418278
Over three years later. Do you really think Team 5 planned this out that far ahead?
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>watch "professional" hearthstone
>it's the same thing as the ladder
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>>175418405
Of course not. But they could consider old cards when making new cards. Or change old cards when new cards have a negative impact.
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>>175418534
But you get to witness amazing personalities such as <scandinavian autist> or <other scandinavian autist>.
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>>175418682
I look forward to them dancing around every quest going forward. A few will be easy to ignore like mage and Paladin, but the rest? Those will dictate the future card releases.
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>>175418102
It's always nice to think about when you reach legend for the first time. If I may recommend decks, Token Druid crushes the meta right now and Mid Hunter is a medium power level but consistent highroll deck. For wild, Pirate Warrior is literally broken and Ship's Cannon is about as strong in the deck as Edwin is in Miracoli.
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>>175417692
>one-time legend player riding on his only legend climb
>he probably used midhunter or some other braindead curve deck

Yes, anon. Everyone thinks you're veeery good.
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>>175418878
>we fucked up, so now standard rotates with every expansion
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Anyone have any good Quest druid lists?

I invested my next legendary fund into barnabus because I love the idea and wanna make him work

>Suddenly realising I should have death wing, dragon lord, kun and tyrantus in the same deck because they're all big guys

My wallet weeps
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>>175419119
I can honestly see quests hitting hall of fame come 2 months from now or whever the rotation hits. For all their memes on limiting design space, they literally created cards that do nothing but that.
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>>175419007
You can be smugly condescending whatever you want, doesn't take crap away from what I've accomplished.
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>Tempostorm
Legendary plays
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M I S S E D L E T H A L
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>justsaiyan just missed lethal for similar reasons lethal was missed in /hsg/ tourney
wew lads
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>>175418405
>>175418682

You realise blizzard has been pushing murloc every single expansion that has a murloc in it

It just so happens that bow they managed to strike oil and finally get it to work. And its not in the class that recieved a murloc quest, and the class that does run murlocs doesn't bother with the new murloc epic

They just throw cards at the wall to see what sticks
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>>175419429
I'm thoroughly curious
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>>175419308
The point is you are being equally smug for running the cardback. You know you reached legend, anon. Why does your rank 13 opponent have to?
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>>175419293

They won't be worried about that because they'll print new quests in he new expansion

Most of them won't be viable, but commons from the same expansion will make the quests from un goto stronger by accident
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>>175419453
JustSaiyan had 2x Feral Rages for lethal, but he only saw them as Armor (almost dead against Pirate Warrior).

When I missed lethal, it was because Klandri had just Taunted up 2 big guys and my mind completely switched away from lethal at that moment.

Missed lethal: clips.twitch dot tv/HungryDullWoodpeckerPeteZarollTie
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>>175419363
post more eloise~
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>>175419453
Saiyan had 6 damage on board and 2 Feral Rage in his hand, Pirate Warrior opponent was at 14. He tunnel visioned into trading and stacking armor.

If Tempostorm takes it at least let it be the homie
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>>175419739
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>>175419731
Wait... who are you roleplaying as?
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>>175419787
trump is always so flirty
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>>175419731
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>>175419750
>:/
Get out
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>>175419908
>>>/r/eddit
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>>175419908
HE HAD LETHAL
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>>175419923
its the full clip of Saiyan seeing he fucked up - its hilarious

I dont know how to post it without the system thinking its spam. It's just 1 URL link
>>175419750
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>>175419590
Its why quests need to be cut flat out, shit is terrible for the game's overall health. Could you imagine if they printed any decent neutral 1-drops next expansion? Or more random card generation for Mage? Or even better taunt minions?

To add to what you said Imagine if they printed quests that were good enough that you'd actually consider running 2.
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>>175400931
but why wouldnt someone like that have all golden cards as well?
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>>175419876
If you had a dick as big as his wouldn't you be
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>he isn't playing control pirate warrior
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>>175420047
It's a meme you dip.
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>>175419787
her chin is strange as fuck
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>>175419739
Here's my elOCise
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>>175419739
Thank God they introduced new weeb Twitch emotes, I'm not an otaku scum but it's hilarious

Holler at ya girl

>Me and best priest/Druid/autistic in EU @TicTac_HS
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>>175420365
VoHiYo master race
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>>175420270
She probably had that wide fat asian jaw before surgery.
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>>175420365
i swear she always looks amazing. not even a bad hair day
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>>175420270
Jaw shaving.
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>>175417413
Is aggro shaman still a thing in Wild, or has jade shaman eclipsed it completely?
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>>175420481
she does
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>>175420182
control is so based its ridiculous

>inb4 autists think it is saying its a control deck
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>>175420481
She tries really hard with her appearance tho because she's into it tho

She even made the Yung Savage smile
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I want to lick those thighs.
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>Taunt warrior mirrors
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>>175394152
I love this picture.
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>you will never fug an eloise
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T/S boys get in
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eloiseposting is comfy t b h
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>ITT yellow fever
http://www.4chan.org/rules
"You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18."
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>>175420959
love this pic
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>>175421128
Only people with yellow fever are ones who haven't seen them without makeup or met their family.
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>>175421128
>he hasnt taken the yellow pill
she's laughing at you btw
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>these other competitors think they have a chance against me

>>175421128
>>175421518
This isn't aznposting, it's specifically Eloiseposting
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Die, insect!
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>it's another "Taunt Warrior does absolutely nothing yet still highrolls a win" episode
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Is 1 Molten Blade in Pirate War actually legit? It's a pretty cool inclusion but its so dead on topdeck.
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>eloise with tentacles
unnnnffff
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>waifu draws Tentacles for Arms

HEARTHSTONE IS RACIST!
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He took sentry to make the Brawl better idiots, you don't want them bouncing good shit
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>twitch chat screeching about OP quest rogue
>tiger mommy plays one and they start screeching taunt warrior OP
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I have the 80g challenge a friend quest but I'm a loner with no friends. If anyone wants a quick 80g add me Garganfunker #11728
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>>175425056

got it thanks bros
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>3hp vs 54hp
it's over isnt it? :c
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>>175424791
I personally think Crystal Core Rogue is fine, but nothing is more highroll BrokeBack than reducing a long match to rag coin flips. It's not OP, it's just infuriating
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>>175425404
>>175424791
Both aren't fine and both are pure distilled hearthstone cancer. Either you lose to non-interactive charging 5/5's for 15-20 turn 5, or you play a million turns slamming down taunt minions until the end-game becomes a series of rng dice rolls.
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>this is what the world championship finals is going to look like

Hahahaha Blizzard better nerf this shit or theyre fucked
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The problem with this tournament is the fact that paladins are being banned. If paladin was not banned every single game quest warriors would not be dominating like this.
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>>175425645
What, praytell, isn't cancer though? You can call any deck cancer.
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Is pirate warrior fun to play
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>>175425772

Control Paladin
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>>175425835
HURR HURR Healing all day, FOLLOW THE RULES, None may steal our secrets, 4 mana clear the entire board.

See? Cancer.
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>>175425913

>None may steal our secrets

We're not talking Wild decks here.
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>>175425645
What does an interactive deck even look like?
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>>175425772
There is a bit of "bullshit" to every deck in every ccg or tcg. In Hearthstone its these two right now, when I say distilled I really mean distilled. They take every major fault the game has, and multiply it by a factor of 5.

Quests are flat out terrible design, and the current two quests that are actually run are either pure RNG, or Extreme feast or famine.

Like Yogg was bad in the past at making HS competitive look like a joke(I mean...) but this is just as bad. Nothing you can do once the decks hit a certain point.
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>>175425813
not really depends on what kind of person you are
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>>175425645
At least Rogue uses its cards to combo with instead of giving a formerly bad deck an out by granting it a random infinite value machine. Crystal Core invented a new archetype utilizing cards that don't see play otherwise, while Sulfuras is just the Big Stick they gave Garrosh after 3 expansions of failing to push Taunt Warrior into viability.
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>>175426001
does it win fast at the very least

midrangeh hunter is not as good as people are acting
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>>175425813
Only against Pirate Warrrior, funny enough.
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not into hs tourneys, but what happened? Paladin is too OP?
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>>175426058
Granted I can agree with this, but its the manner in which it gets its win condition and the way the game is formatted. 4 procs are retardedly and I mean ridiculously easy to pull off with the current card sets. If the game had instants, or some way to actively manipulate the other players hand sure, keep this shit but as it stands Quest rogue can run over even its most difficult matchups if it has a good opener.
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>>175426068
games are over quick yes
last time i played i got crabbed 3 times in 5 turns so take that as you will
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>>175426278
I hate jeweled macaw
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>>175426220
Paladin is a class that has a lot of shut down cards that provide decent board presence while also maintaining a giant amount of healing to recover from face damage and the like, they also have a hero power that fucks le coinflip warrior every turn from 100% damage to face.

Right now, Control Paladin is stupid
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>>175426068
Yes it wins fast, and it's better than midrange hunter but most people will hate you for playing it. Just jam it anyway, I guess. Rip Eloise
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>>175426220
Paladin is the only "honest" deck that can beat Quests so people ban it out so they can auto-pilot win-conditions that other classes can't beat.
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Just highrolled my way to 600 legend with this aggro shaman.

Any suggestions to make this thing a little less shit? I'm climbing, but I get the feeling it's missing something.
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>>175426220
Paladin almost always banned, Taunt Warrior sweeping.
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>>175426320
is that the one with n'zoth?
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jesus christ taunt warrior in this dreamhack thing is fucking stupid...
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>>175426410
runt sucks dick otherwise it looks fine
the few aggro shaman ive played against recently were always double bloodlust and tokens
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>>175425994
Zoo. Kraken Dragon Priest.
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>>175426380
>tfw can't even put my faith in the light
>truesilver my asshole daddy~
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>>175426257
Basically every deck can win against every other deck, though. The most unwinnable matchup is maybe Freeze vs. Priest but fuck Priest, Quest rogue is very polarizing and Token Druid pummels it like little else in this xpac. It's a buster deck, scissors in RPS, as opposed to something like mid hunter or mid paladi which are hedge deck s with near even matchups one way or the other
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>>175426320
>Right now, Control Paladin is stupid
Isn't everyone playing Midrange with Murlocs? i bump into the occasional control but not that often.
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>>175426621
Druid is about the only class that can consistently beat Quest rogue, but that doesn't make it good design. Shit is terrible design and its only going to cause more problems going forward if they decide to print any decent rogue low cost cards, or neutrals.

When it doesn't work it fails spectacularly, when it does, the opponent doesn't stand a chance. It transcends most matchups if you have the god-hand, or even a simple Swashburglar, shadowstep combo considering it gets class cards for free to boot.
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>>175426410
fun to play?
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Is there some website where I can work out how many wins I'll need to get to rank 5 from Rank 14?

I haven't played properly since Nov
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>>175426842
Because of quest rogue. Control paladin can do next to nothing against quest rogue. If there was another deck that got quest rogue under control, control paladin would be top.
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>>175426410
dude you have the highest rank in the general. why would you ask us advice.
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I see Karazhan can cost either money or 800 gold for the first set. Is it even worth it? Or should I just use my gold on packs, instead?
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>>175427190
Because you can still be a good player that can build good decks without investing the time it takes to hit high legend.
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>>175426410
hammer out for leeroy
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>people complain about certain packages being cancer
>not realizing that Hearthstone itself is the real cancer
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>>175427310
by how will you know it's good if you dont climb with it?
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>>175426410
I would honestly just go full meme and replace runt with a crab of choice.
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>>175427231
Depends. There are definitely decks that pretty much require Karazhan cards. You're probably not playing Rogue without Swashburglar, Shaman without Maelstrom, Hunter without Kindly Grandmother, Mage without Babbling Book.
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>>175426907
Sounds like a combo deck to me, I don't know. I can get why it's frustrating to lose to but I still wouldn't call it """"problematic" to the meta like Jade Druid was last xpac (even though it was shit) or Miracle in Beta. Freeze will always be my least favorite deck to play against. Forever.
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>>175427582
Will those cards ever rotate out of standard?
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what do i watch now
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>>175428284
All cards except classic and Un'goro + later rotate out with the first expansion of 2018.
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>>175428284
next april
a years a long time in hs time though
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>>175428307
>not already watching kripp

these tourneys are usually ass
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>when you just don't give a heck
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>>175428474
idk seeing a guy get gayed so often is pretty annoying
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>>175426621
Quest rogue has to have backstab/Archer/Shiv and VC or pray for prep vanish for token druid, the damage spelless version of quest rogue does really well against taunt and pirate warriors but gets eaten alive by midrange hunter and token druid.

I'm actually thinking of using MC tech to tech against these wide boards and living mana. No matter what you MC, you get a 5/5. Really bad against taunt warrior though.
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>>175428593
I don't know if MCT is really all that great even against those. Rogue you want to beat before they have 5/5s. Living Mana takes 2/2 away from their 5 mana 10/10.
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These people in this pic are all way shorter than you would expect. I think hotMEOWTH is like 5'5

Also, its crazy how different Trump looks in real life vs pictures. Here is the best example I have. This one vs...
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>Quest priest is acting smug spamming "wow" the whole game
>Playing midrange hunter
>Pull out Dire Wolf Unleash the Hounds on his full board for the win
>Spam "wow" and "thanks" before I go for lethal
>Add him to friends
>"Get rekt fgt"
>Delete him from friends
>He adds me back
>Call him a shitter and delete him before he can respond
>He tries to add me again
>Declined
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>>175428995
Wow, you're so cool.
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>>175428938
...this
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>>175428995

Hearthstone and /hsg/ in a nutshell right here.
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>>175428995
Neat
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who is the best hearthstone player ever?
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>>175428995
Jesus Christ, anon. Congratulations.
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>>175429270
me
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>>175429270
The one who knew to quit
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>>175429270
Ask after DH Austin is done, we'll tell you then.
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>>175429270
I dunno, flip a coin :^)
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>>175429270
Xixo and Tyler are the only players to ever hold rank 1 on all three servers at once if that means anything to you. Getting consistent top 8s is usually the metric of a good player in card game circuits. Sometimes certain players just have the meta nailed down.
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>>175429270
kripp
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>>175426559
>an aggro deck that wins based on what was discarded
>"winning with cards not in my deck and an overpowered tribe with laughable prerequisites" the deck

Both of these decks were honestly pure cancer. There's a good reason they put Azure drake into the hall of fame.
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>>175429270
The one who placed the highest without ever spending a dime.
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>>175429270
>who is the best craps player ever?
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>share midrange hunter list I got to legend with
>someone i know is close to legend with my list

feels good contributing to someone else's happiness
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>>175430167
share dat list playboi
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>>175430167
>my list

At least be honest with yourself for one goddamn moment and recognize it's not your fucking list if it's the same or *almost* the same as the list everyone and their fucking grandma also runs.
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>>175428938
oh shit its Lego-Chan !
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>>175429690

Not that hard when you remember Xixo is notorious for jamming the fastest tier S deck possible in any given format as soon as literally possible when a new season starts to get to legend before anyone else, staying up as late as necessary to do it. That has more to do with cheesing and autism than any kind of measurable "skill".

No idea who the fuck Tyler is I just know the ogre brute lookin' guy.
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>>175428938
who's the qt on the far right
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>>175430754
That's what skill looks like in card games. It's a lot of autism, commitment, going through data and finding the most powerful deck. Elementary math and remembering orders is secondary and can be obtained by just playing a lot.

The fact that he memorized the meta of three different servers is actually impressive.
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is a 2 mana 3/2 or 2/3 better in the arena meta?
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>>175431532
2/3
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>>175431532

2/3
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>>175431559
>>175431592
thanks fa m
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>>175430325
here
>>175396951

>>175430330
ok, my s m a l l edit of the deck everyone and their grandma plays, happy anon?

it prob existed before me since the variation is so little from the typical list
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>>175426068
Seems pretty fucking good to me for a 1.3k dust deck.

https://hsreplay.net/decks/348NKZnd3XcQJLRi9lHlkb/#tab=overview
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>>175430754
Tyler is the same, the meme is "he's not a pro he's a grinder". If everyone is playing the best decks at top legend, I don't see how it's different. That's how you become "the best" at a card game.

This nigga used to be a fashion photographer and now he's a pro at a children's card game.
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So I've been tinkering around with EleShaman for about a week or so, and I've mixed up this mess. My main reasoning behind Jade is that Jade Claws is too good not to use, which makes other Jade cards better by proxy, especially Aya. The deck seems decently defensive so far, with all 3-cost Elementals being useful to me, but a lot of the late-game Elementals are terrible if not active, and Fire Fly is my only really cheap way of turning them on. I really want to keep the Mana Tide due to not running any other substantial natural draw, although Servant is filling the niche somewhat well.

Is mixing Jade into this worth it, or should it be ripped out, and what would be a good replacement for it if so? And should I be so worried about draw? I'm seriously considering subbing out a Hex for an Igneous Elemental or another Mana Tide.
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>>175432060

MIIIIISTS, OBEY MY COMMAND!
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>>175427231
If you can afford it, I'd probably spend real money, since it's only $20 for the expansion vs 32k gold. That's a much better $/gold ratio than buying packs.
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Some of you guys are alright

Don't go to EU arena today
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FUck midrange hunter

I must be doing something wrong because its just 50/50
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>>175432834
what dick
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>>175433032
>>175433032
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>meta has 'diversified' from garrosh and valeera to garrosh and uther

fun game
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t. anduin
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>>175433115
What matchups are you seeing where Stampeding Kodo makes a difference?
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>>175433317
Pro-tip: Click on the numbers to respond to a post.
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>>175432290
Your winrate verse all warriors, all rogues, burn mages and silence priests will plummet by 5-10%. Your winrate verse things you're already good at killing will improve by about the same amount.

Pure elemental shaman seems to be much more well rounded and doesn't have any negative match ups.
Get Kalimos if you're serious about playing Elemental shaman, it's a must have against your weaker match ups to stabilize like control warrior and crystal rogue.
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>>175433245

>Valeera, Anduin, Rexxar, Malfurion, Jaina all have decks that are, at worst, tier 2

If you're a Shaman or Warlock player, you got kinda fucked. That being said, this is the most diverse meta this game has seen in a while.

I'm glad Shamans got fucked though.
They owned this game for a year, they can suffer a bit.
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@175433434
thanks
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>>175433415
I figured I would try to slip one in and see what kind of value I can get. So far its been decent actually

Otherwise I just feel like the deck losses steam very fast if even slight board clear happens
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>>175433032
Not him, but I've traditionally been a Rexxar guy and have far more games on him compared to anyone else. I haven't really found a list that "clicked" for me this xpac, so I've been off playing other things instead. I just looked at the Dreamhack top 16 netdecks, and I really really like the look of this list if you want to give it a shot.

SMOrc
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>>175433440
>tier 2

Nobody plays tier 2 between 5 and legend. I'm at 3 and my last 7 games were 3 warriors and 4 paladins. It's fucking boring.
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>>175433556

>nobody plays tier 2 between 5 and legend

Take a look at the calendar and you might see why.

Things will cool off in a couple days, hotshot.
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>>175433556
what are you even saying

rng is just fucking you over
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>>175433536
Maybe I should try this version out, I dunno . I'm this guy

>>175433115
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>>175433697
I'm saying everyone plays tier one decks. I thought that was pretty clear.

>>175433686
You gonna call me kiddo next faggot?
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>>175433830

If you're not gonna tell me I'm wrong, you concede the point, hotshot.
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>>175433556
It's not even "tiers" right now, people are just playing the faster aggressive decks in general because they can fit more games in, and murloc pally and pirate warrior happen to be fast and very good. Lots of Druids and Hunters out, too.
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>>175433930
I know why it's all tier one you retard. You're not imparting any astonishing information here, you're just being a faggot trying to lord over people by calling them your gay ass pet names.
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>>175433438
I have some hesitation about Kalimos due to not wanting the deck to be /too/ high-curve, but the Chieftain would probably make up for that. I imagine Igneous Elemental will be a fine addition in lieu of Aya's tokens, but what's a good functional replacement for Jade Lightning? I could just go with Bolt, but I've found that Overload fucks around with your rollout severely during early turns.

I've also thought about Stone Sentinel to stabilize against Rogues better. Is it worth running alongside double Flametongue, even as a one-off?

>>175433506
Interesting. Do you find that the Battlecry opens up the board for an aggressive finish before your curve drops off, or is it just getting rid of annoying leftover 2-drops?
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>>175433440
Elemental and murloc/aggro shamans are doing fine actually, besides a couple of match up, Even their quest is the 3rd best. The problem is, they're expensive new decks; class legendaries are a hard sell.

Crystal Rogue is annihilating non-aggro shamans right now though, mostly because devolve and hex do nothing against it. A vast majority of players complaining about crystal rogues are midrange shamans(who used to make up 40% of the ladder) because they have zero ways of dealing with a wide board of 5/5s.
Here's one of the few non-aggro shaman decks with a positive win rate verse rogues:

https://hsreplay.net/decks/2Ux5EdtfWJblplh7lUPE9g/
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>>175433782
It honestly doesn't really matter what you run in mid hunter, it will consistently perform about the same desu. That being said, I really like the tech choices in this deck and I'm trying it now to get legend NA (already legend EU), will report back. Just won my first game against Taunt Warrior.
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>>175434149
>Interesting. Do you find that the Battlecry opens up the board for an aggressive finish before your curve drops off, or is it just getting rid of annoying leftover 2-drops?

It just helps pop off the high health shitter minions to keep it open. I haven't hit aggro warrior yet and it won't kill the tar taunt fuckers though, it might not be worth to incliude
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>>175434120

So you came here to bitch about something you already knew, a something that will change in two days and thus totally undercut the exact thing you were bitching about?
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>>175433830
not clear when i've definitely seen more out of these ranks than paladin and warrior. haven't seen paladin- more like a mix of tier 2
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>>175434256
how the fuck do I use rat pack and kindly grandmothers correctly. I feel like I do not
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>>175434307
I came here to complain about the fact that every meta devolves into 2-3 decks and people still give blizzard their money.

>something that will change in two days
Good one.
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>>175434413
Sounds more like you just have a really negative mentality regarding tiers. Un'goro has one of the thinnest gaps between tier 1-2-3 powerlevels the game has seen in a while.
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>play no minions
>win anyway
>Even if you fuck up ice block saves your ass

Freeze mage is an amazing display of bullshit
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I'd hate Quest Rogue a lot less if it didn't change the board to 5/5's and be able to be prepped into.

I'm just salty from 3 bullshit losses in a row. Shitty coin flips, my deck drawing from most mana cost to least so not having anything to do for 3 turns and Quest Rogue having all the pieces to suddenly have a board of 5/5 taunts from bouncing Tidehunter
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>>175434718
Quest should silence your deck
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>>175434756

>Warrior quest now unplayable
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>>175434389
>drop deathrattles if doomsayer's on board
>ram into a minion if you see the time's appropriate to trigger your
>use houndmaster on them
>don't use them early with priest since they have potion of madness all the time and can get multiple with shadow visions
>with tundra rhino ram into enemies with death rattles so they can trigger and you can attack with them
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>>175434831
He means the rogue quest so they're not shitting out 1 mana 5/5 chargers, card draws, and freezes.
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>>175434713

>Punched your way through three Ice Blocks
>They found time to Alex you and deal 5 turn's worth of damage to you
>"You wanna cast a spell? I wanna cast a spell!"
>[? noises]
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>>175433115
Two nesting rocs is what you're doing wrong. Two bats is pretty bad too.
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>>175434718
post deck
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>>175434279
>Fuck Stonehill Defender: the card

Might be worth it, actually. That fucking turtle needs to be shot.

>>175433115
>>175433536
Neither of your lists run Tolvir Warden at all. I love the card from a conceptual standpoint, but is it too slow, even with putting a bit more gas in your hand?
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>>175434546
I don't care how strong the tiers are, I care that 2 weeks into an expansion there are only 3 decks on ladder for the next two years.
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>>175434917
what do you suggest otherwise
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>>175434831
Was going to say only for rogue but sure, fuck quests. It was aimed at them being able to shit out 5/5's with cantrips, charge, freeze and shit like swashburglar.

1 mana 5/5's is already a crazy good reward, having them have riders that do additional things just pushes it overboard.
>>175434910
Remove ice-block
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>>175435017

If I were a betting man, Ice Block is on the chopping block for next year's round of Classic rotations. Either that, or they cap the amount of one card you can possess in a game at 3. This would also keep Stonehill from being a game-breaker by shitting out Tirions.
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I'm salty about Kripp's opponents. They are literally ALL absolute fucking retards. The only reason they have high wins is because their decks are incredible.

I want to root for Kripp's opponents because I want him to lose, but it almost never happens because his enemy is a complete mongoloid fucking idiot who can't make basic plays.
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>>175435006
replace the bats with one hungry crab and one crawler. Even if the hungry crab never eats a murloc 1 mana 1/2s are very strong right now. Try fledglings instead of rocs. They are a pretty high priority kill target since no class can handle a turn 4 of hound master > adapt into windfury > adapt
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>>175435153
Its a shame we have another year of Freeze mage being a complete cunt of a deck that survives not through skillful play(previous freeze mage could be argued) to a deck that now shits out random spells because primordial glyph is fucking busted as all fuck.

But yeah, you should never be able to pull a card into the 3's.
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>>175434713
>3 mana buy a turn is allowed, no downsides whatsoever, also activates Secret synergy like Valet or Arcanist if you want a giggle
>when the Mage quest is 5 mana: Buy a turn and requires you to fuck up your curve with Tomes

I swear to fucking god. Every other card like that from other games has massive drawbacks, but this is apparently fine? Look at the Pact cycle or Glorious End from MtG. Why isn't it like that?

>>175435153
I fully support a cap of 3 per game. No class should be able to repeatedly pull a single threat, ESPECIALLY if Discover is going to continue to be such a prominent mechanic.
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>>175435153
Makes me wonder if they are going to hall of fame Tirion at some point, I don't ever see him not in paladin decks.
I would quit the game
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>>175435376
They should replace it with cauterize. You get one free turn to do something but at the end of that turn you die.
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>>175435530

Probably not, because he's not an auto-include for all classes (he can't be), and for the class he can be auto-include in, he's not dumb damage from hand, which is what got PO and Ice Lance clipped.
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>>175435153
>>175435331
Wouldn't even be mad about freeze mage if it wasn't for all the random bullshit going on. It makes them unbearable to play against in ranked and arena.

Giving them an on-curve secret draw was stupid as well.
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>>175435306
It's pretty bad when you can't see their whole hand, but you still know they missplay.
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>>175435530
Tirion is good but it's neither deck defining nor oppressive. Tirion isn't so good that it makes you not run other 8 drops since lots of people including myself run rag and tirion in the same deck.
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>>175434389
>>175434846
Do this, only don't drop onto doomsayer turn unless you can set up lethal/absolutely need the board presence, the stickiness is handy.

>>175434943
I'm of the personal opinion that the Hunter 5 drop will always be an awkward/weak turn for you, but Tol'Vir Warden is a viable option. I think I saw Trump running 1 Rhino 1 Warden

Man these rank 2 games with >>175433536 against Aggro Murloc paladin have been nutty (and exciting), would post screenshots but I'm on mobile
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>>175435530
I think the opposite would be more interesting, actually. Does /hsg/ think that Blizzard will ever "reprint" a card back into Standard if they think it will be good for a deck archetype they want to promote? It might give an incentive for Wild players to get back into Standard and buy recent expansions if they can partially sub in cards they already have. An immediate hypothetical that comes to mind would be Muster for Battle, seeing as it gives support for a token Paladin deck alongside Tarim, Steward of Darkshire and Lightfused Stegodon.
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should Alexstraza be changed to 20 hp? is she problematice?

it would nerf it for mage, and buff it for control healing

thoughts?
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>>175435848
Brode says its not out of the question.
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>>175435848

>An immediate hypothetical that comes to mind would be Muster for Battle

Would you consider Vinecleaver to be that? It's "a weapon plus dudes". It's slow as shit, but can really turn the tide if your opponent can't/won't dedicate resources to clearing EVERYTHING

And first fucking card on my list of reprints: Loatheb. Dirty Rat can already destroy any minion quest reward and indirectly fuck with Rogue, time to make the spell rewards feel the pain.
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>>175435876
17
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>>175435876
You could also make it only able to target yourself.
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>>175435964
>everyone with a brain tells blizzard to make a rotating core set when they announce standard
>lol no, evergreen standard set
>actually, a few cards will be sent to wild
>actually, we've been toying with the notion of a rotating core set

What a bunch of fucking retards.
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>>175435876
Only target self would be a great way to alleviate burn mage's I win button.
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>Just playing Murlocs in Casual Standard for Quest
>Gonna concede when I've hit 30
>Enemy concedes at 26 when I haven't hit his face once
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>>175435848
They're going to bring a lot of old card effects back through the death knight class.
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>>175435876
30
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Which of these shit leggos?
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>>175436569
>Mage
Genzo or Wrathion. They're about the same.
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>>175436023
Yes, actually! It's funny to me how Vinecleaver is almost directly Muster in reverse: an extremely slow weapon that summons tokens and gives a ridiculous amount of value.

I really hope that Blizzard does start periodically cycling cards back in, mostly because those cards have existing data that Team 5 can use to better understand how those cards fit into decks, in regards to both the archetypes those cards saw play in when the were Standard-legal, archetypes currently seeing play, and archetypes they're currently designing. It feels like this lack of meta-data is directly responsible for a lot of previous archetypes failing, like TGT Taunt Warrior and Inspire (fuck, pretty much all of TGT's big mechanics.)

>>175436569
Wrathion for guaranteed draw.
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>>175436601
>>175436630

Thanks, I immediately got another shit pick, which is it?
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>>175436770
Anomalus can reset everything and requires a very specific answer to play around. Hemet will destroy all Secrets, which can fuck up your late-game response massively depending on what you draft, and Mage has some really good Secrets you will hate having to pass on, as well as most Freeze cards which can buy you time.
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>>175436770
You kidding? Hemet is amazing in arena.
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>>175436770
>Hemet
>bad in arena

Please just delete the deck, you don't deserve it.
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>>175433440
>If you're a Shaman or Warlock player, you got kinda fucked.
Reno warlock and Zoo got some fun cards in wild where they're still viable.
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>get legend the other day
>played a lot of shit decks and conceded a lot when i didn't care to play or was generous
>now
>try to climb
>get rekt
>dropped down around 11k legend and haven't seen another person in legend
>ranking up, I only get up one rank number, literally from like 10002 to 10001
>vsing people in rank 4-2

a-am i a fraud
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There are few words to describe how much I despise playing against mage far more than any other class.... We need a final solution
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>>175438158
Play something that burns Jaina down rapidly.
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>>175438158
Leave it to me, friend.
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>>175438158
>Playan control deck
>Queue into mage

and that's the story of why I play face decks
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>>175438760

What kinda control deck? Mages should get dumpstered by control unless it's their own control variant.
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It should be impossible to get cards from other classes.
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>>175438760
>>175438427
Most board centric decks outside of Pirate Warrior are actually unfavored vs. Mage right now because she fucking locks the board down- Rogue, Aggro Druid, Hunter, etc. The real counter to Jaina's tyranny is ironically Priest now that she can't OTK, thinking of switching to it but the games go slow and I'm trying to climb
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>>175439316
Hunter works vs Mage, dude. Also pic related works too.
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>>175439148
Random out of deck cards is actually one of the major selling points of hearthstone and it's justification for it being digital.

The problem is we don't know what our opponent has, it's impossible to play around. I think all out of deck cards should be revealed, only something like Mind Visions should be hidden.
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>>175439460
It's statistically not favored if the mage isn't retarded, but it's no worse than 60:40, it's just tilting as fuck
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>>175435964
Honestly, this just makes me think that they'll (at some point, after they've backed themselves into a wall with power creep) just announce an old set being put back into rotation instead of making a new expansion.

Imagine expecting Icecrown or something and then getting WHISPERS OF THE OLD GODS TWO!!!! it'd be awful.
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>>175439574
I'm at rank 4 and playing memebuff palla. It's shitting on mages.
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What she mean by this?
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>>175439742
You can use emotes over the phone.
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>get up to rank 1 4 stars
>6 loss streak to rank 2 2 stars
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>>175439549
There are way too many retarded interactions to justify being able to get cards from other classes.
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>>175439814
Can you elaborate?
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>>175439742
>>175439814
>>175439927
It's so they can interrupt you game with an incoming call
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>>175388934
>sap
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>>175440196
I see, thanks faggot
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>>175438158
Play Control Paladin, get Eye for an Eye from Hydrologist, bait out their Alexstrasza so they can't use it on themselves (saving Aldor Peacekeeper for Alex helps), get them to 1 HP. I've legit had several scenarios like these that occured on ranks 5 to 4 and it helped me win the games against Mage niggers without having to tech in Eater of Secrets. If they happen to have Eater of Secrets after you play Eye for an Eye, well, you're fucked. Other than that, Eye for an Eye wins matches in those situations. Same against Quest Warrior. If you can get them to low Health and they use their Reward, they'll eventually hit your face with 8 damage while you yourself are hiding behind other minions and Taunts. Again, this won me several games just because of Eye for an Eye.
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>>175439887
took me like 2 days of bouncing from 1 5 stars to 2 and even 3

i got gatekeeped by the same highrolling 10k legend priest 3 times over the course of like 4-6 hours
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>>175440338
I don't think I've ever felt the physical sensation to hurt someone or violently smash something like I do right now, what the fuck does this game do to me
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>>175440870
>>>/r9k/
literally seek help. Stop playing you manchild.
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>>175440870
its okay friend, same shit happened to me today. Literally got to final boss 3 times, get cucked by dumpster legends, and then drop back down to rank 2, and now back to rank 1
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wew
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neu
>>175441520
>>175441520
>>175441520
>>175441520
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