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In which the denizens waste their lives arguing about whether using an imaginary item on their imaginary character on their pointless three year old singleplayer videogame challenge.

>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f

>Individual Game Pastas
http://pastebin.com/V7MzidCu

>/rlg/'s shared DCSS online account
User: rlgrobin
Password: ownfault (or "robin" on Xtahua)

>Infra Arcana on Windows:
https://pastebin.com/S761eT4B

>PCB challenge
Leprechaun monster race
http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php

Previous Autism: >>175061398
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first for bucklers of {regen slay+5}
also second for crawl is shit
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I'm pretty sure we were talking about comic books
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>>175247210
what might be the most awful webcomic of all time actually
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>>175247282
I think not a roguelike takes the cake
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>>175247392
you'd know all about that wouldn't you fatty
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>>175247392
>implying webcomics arent roguelikes
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Other thread wasnt even on page 10, this is far too fast
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>>175248590
>first for chei
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actually we used to make a thread the moment it hit 750 back in the day
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>>175248652
Yeah and you guys kept sucking crawl dick back then
Tells one enough
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i miss newts
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>>175248652
that's a classic newfag general mistake, it's okay
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post dank new removal changelogs
i need to see it
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Spell Hepliaklqana NiBBa
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>>175249808
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0kyLMbrhiBV
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>>175249808
Hepliaklqana
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How do I get better at this game?

I've read the IVAN pastebin and some of the wiki but I still cannot get past Level 2 - always hitting some insane difficulty spike like leprosy or acute poison or exploding dude.
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>>175251486
did you cut off your head
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>>175251486
>don't get 50 max hp early on - this unlocks dorf exploders
>if you get sores, gb2 the priest in town (that woman alone in tiny house) and pay her to heal you
>unless you piss someone off, you can always safely pray to gods separated by at most 2 alignment "steps" - number of pluses/minuses - for example L++, L+, L, L- means there are 3 steps between L++ and L-
>you can pray every 2 hours + 30 minutes, unless you piss off a given god
>don't be too burdened - you want to grind agility all the time

Overall IVAN is incredibly spoiler-heavy if you want to win not relying mostly on RNG. Read the wiki, don't torture yourself with muh discovery.
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>>175251762
but spoilers are half the fun
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>>175251762

>muh discovery

The greatest thing about bloated roguelikes is playing without spoilers because you eventually come up with techniques and detailed info not found in any wiki or other places of discussion. You can enjoy being the special snowflake only if you work hard
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>>175252162
>>175251861
Having to figure out stupid bullshit like god timeouts, which activity grinds which stat and how much, how does the meme scaling system work and how to not get fucked over by it, how do god offerings work etc. is totally not fun and totally worth skipping.
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>>175251583
Yeah I was pressing everything on the keyboard
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>>175251762
Yeah but how do I earn gold?
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>>175252897
Reach the second city first
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>>175252897
grab a copper/bronze/iron/anything pickaxe from UC. They almost always spawn. Pray to loricatus until he turns it into damascus steel. Go down UC:2 and dig in the empty room with a block of rock in the middle. Discover stairs. Go down stairs. Mine crystals. Sell crystals to shopkeeper in capital. Keep one as infinite and lightweight and unbreakable lightsource.
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>>175253081
>Go down UC:2 and dig in the empty room with a block of rock in the middle.
>spot one crystal golem
>it spots you
>if you go upstairs, it follows you and gets the first turn
>it hits you, most likely in the torso, exploding it instantly
It's much better to just sell shit you come across than risking the crystals. They don't sell for much anyway.
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>>175253292
he said he didn't want to have spoilers
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>Nethack was released 30 years ago
>It's still the best roguelike
Where did everything go so wrong
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>>175253081
What is "UC" and "UC2"?
>>175253045
How do I stop starving to death?
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>>175253509
UT
underwater cave
or tunnel whateve
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>>175253532
I can only visit a cave next to New Attnam. How do I get a boat?
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>>175253576
>How do I get a boat?
are you literally retarded
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>>175253640
???
It's a normal question, sperg.
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I want to become a greater player in Minotaur or Gargoyle. Which one should I go for?
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>>175253820
u dont get a boat fking retard
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>>175253930
hmm or maybe Draconian, hard to choose
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>>175253939
So answer it like a white person you fucking schizo
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>It's a D:3 water mocassin episode
What the christ.
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>>175253930
Whichever you enjoy the most
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>>175253930
Are you going to do 27 trog runs
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>>175254369
>>175254238
I think I enjoy Mi the most. But I think I might get burned out since they really can't do anything but be a fighter, so any of the magic and stealth backgrounds is just a MiBe with a harder start.
While gargoyles and Dracos are a bit weaker up close, they do have some more variety...
On the other hand switching up gods/weapon styles might be enough to keep Mi fresh
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Does anyone ever sacrifice dodge, MR or resistances with ru
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>>175253576
Read the fucking wiki
Don't pretend to avoid spoilers when you're asking people to spoonfeed you
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>>175253930
greaterplayer is all races and all backgrounds won
you mean greatrace
do mummies
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>>175254665

I sacrifice dodging or MR because I don't train/need it anyway
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>>175254797
But i never said i avoid spoilers
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>>175254797
Half the wiki is empty and there's some autist answering instead of me
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>>175254665
Resistances is like 4* piety right away, really worth it
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>>175254965
There's enough to get the basics.
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swords or maces on a formicid?
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>>175254905
this
>>175255362
maces
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>>175254905
But there can only be 1 greater mummy
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>>175255952
What about lesbian families
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No mummys or daddies in a lesbian family, because they can't have kids
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>>175255992
They aren't playing mumo because they consume a lot of consumables.
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>>175256272
but there are tummies
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AROUND YAKS
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>>175256453

No tummies in /rlg/ please. Tummies are bloat.
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Problem with crawl is that stats are basically useless
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>>175256515
>bloated tummies
m-more
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>>175256487
>the many ways to serve yak

>>175256515
please do not bloat the tummies, that's lewd.
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>>175256515
nah tummies are tight yet soft
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>>175256453
I wouldn't call them with the diminutive name.
Have you seen a lesbian couple? They tend to weigh more than bear couples. Grizzly bear couples.
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>>175256487
NEVER RELAKS
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A minute of silence for our dead comrades
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what is this memery level 8 fire single school spell called ignition
is it like lcs single target fire rape or what
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>>175256515

>>175256515

tummies are for gentle massage, not for bloat you 2 (two) int minoghoul
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>>175256805
Died to an ancient lich and his two fiend buddies in Crypt earlier today.

>>175256834
Remember rod of ignition? It's like that, except it triggers on every enemy in LoS instead of one line.
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>>175256834
smite targeted fireball on every single enemy in los
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>>175256805

Why is a deep dwarf 52 AC 20 EV not enough to tab that elf:3 corridor? I don't understand, it's not like my battleaxe +3 elec is lacking
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>>175257946
>20ev
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>>175257946
>tab elf:3
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>>175257946
>52 AC
just quit BG2, reading this feels weird
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>>175257946
>hurr why can't I tab a whole buncha smiters & spell casters
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>>175258512
>smite
>mattering against deep dorfs
damage shaving still is a thing
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>>175258568
he clearly died to smite
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>>175258512

DDs ignore smite
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>>175258692
HE LITERALLY DIED TO SMITE YOU GOAT FUCKER
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>>175258512
DDs dont really care about smite
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>>175258823

Point still stands. That's probably one of the weakest damage in an elf:3 corridor
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>>175258859
INVOVKED
DIVINE
PROVIDENCE

DEAD
Every fking turn eating 30 damage of spites
eventually kills you
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>>175258859
>>175258692
>>175258568
You still need to manage LOS in order to avoid unnecessary smiting, anon.
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>>175258943
Yeah its definitely the smite and not the shit ton of hellfire, torment, lcs and acid bolts flying around
No deep dwarves have to be afraid of smite
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>>175259190
You won't be hellfired or tormented if vulnerable people are in the line of fire.
LCS and acid bolt he has to be adjacent in order for them to shoot it since he's in a corridor.
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>>175259286

>you won't be tormented if vulnerable people are in the line of fire.

lol
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just found the culprit lads
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>>175259286
>You won't be hellfired or tormented if vulnerable people are in the line of fire.
you'd better not be so sure about that, especially when a deep elf demonologist summons something funny
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>>175259765
Yeah that'll do it.
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What the FUCK is this shit now
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>>175262032
have fun
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Do you guys play online or on webtiles? And why?
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>>175262032
use t-t to lure the animals
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>>175262121

I get so horny that I lose my focus ingame when people watch me with their dirty and lewd eyes so I don't play online
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>>175262121
i usually do online console, mostly because it keeps records and keeps itself up to date
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>edmund turns into a steam dragon when he's 1 hit from death
>full hp
>on D:4
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>>175262032
>>175262076
>>175262216
What a shitshow this was, holy fuck
Fuck bennus
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>>175263462
>edmund turns into a steam dragon
stop playing with chaos weapons.
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If you beat up a plant with a weapon of chaos enough times, will it turn into an Oklob?
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>>175263852

removed
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>>175262121
Online webtiles because unlike many other roguelikes with graphics, Crawl has them at a very decent level.
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>>175255362
axes if 3 rune, staff if 15
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>>175263548
now imagine going in and you're not undead and silence didn't spawn in your game.
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>>175265262
I would just ctrl q desu
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>>175265262
Silence is actually worse now in tomb, you need some form of heal to do it
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>>175265476
heal?
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>>175265476
So what's the deal now? Hope you've accumulated enough fog scrolls?
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>>175265476
how does silence affect your ability to quaff !HW
>>175265826
Go Wu Tang and pop storm then punch them all to death in your little death-bubble
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>>175264828
Actually not even in old versions
that happened only with a specific artifact
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>>175266009
plutonium sword?
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Okay listen you chucklefucks.
I must be autistic as fuck because I cannot seem to get into any roguelike other than DCSS. I've tried a few times and I've failed, so I need to ask something from people who have hopefully played these two roguelikes I'm about to mention, along with DCSS.

How does ADOM and Caves of Qud compare? I mean seriously.

I'll straight up mention what I like most about DCSS.
First and foremost, I adore the branching path thing. Lair having 2 of either Shoals, Spider, Snake and Swamp showing up as well as optional places like Slime and Elf which you don't necessarily need to do but can help or ruin you.
I also like that the end of each branch can have a certain theme, like I think in Orc I've had a centaur themed ending? Also an Ogre one.
Shit like that.
Do Adom & CoQ do anything similar in that regard?

Do they have tons of unique enemies that may or may not spawn?

Please respond, I need another roguelike to play and those two are at the top of my radar, but since you've gotta pay for them unlike most other roguelikes I'm not sure if I'll enjoy them.
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>>175265901
They are independent, silence is worse because you get stuck with a 2radius fighting greater mummies at max los
You need some kind of heal to actually make it through all the shit it throws at you
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>>175266374
Adom does have similar shit but its a real shitfest in general and spoiler heavy
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>>175266079
yeah that one
I tried spamming .17 CKs and destroyed a ton of plants, apparently you can only turn plants invisible and banish them
it's only with the plutonium sword that you got those weird miscast effects
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>>175255362

triple sword or ctrl+q
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>>175247704
https://alt.org/nethack/dudley/?1066
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>>175259351
>this snigger seriously doesn't know there are two different kinds of hellfire
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>>175266810
>torment
>hellfire
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>>175266463
how does being silenced stop you from healing
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Does anyone know if you can change the auto-explore feature on the webtiles? I'd like it to be like the download version, instead of instant.

>>175266374
play Gnollcrawl
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>>175267220
literally just read the options file help, you'll thank me later
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>>175266804
>slex.jpg
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>>175266810

embarrassing
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>>175267385
Here you go.
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>>175267749
no I mean seriously that's him playing slex he says it in the comments
you probably posted it yourself
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>>175242693
I honestly find all the oozes immersion-breaking and always kind of disheartening to face since there's often no real good method of approaching them - you can sometimes cut and run, but since they're wallcrawling/stealthy you often have to bash through them and they often just keep on coming. Just thinking about heaps of oozes keeps me from coming back, really.

I'm not sure if that's totally fair - without them your resources would be more abundant, and maybe it's necessary to have a wallcrawler/flanker enemy in the game, but having them be stealthy just makes it so very annoying. What are a bunch of sentient slimes doing in the cult-dungeon, anyway?

>>175245134
finding my edit after returning and being gone for so many months makes me feel a little fuzzy inside, no lie
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>>175267851
the comic even says that its by the amy
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>>175267946
>the comic even says that its by the amy
Who else would play slex?
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>>175255362
Axes all the way, maces are for shitters, they have shit ev to utilize long blades
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>>175268110
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Can you not drink sparkling fountains anymore
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Whats the easiest way to get a demon whip? Pand or hell?
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>>175267220
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt#L715
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You could do that until .13 I think
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>>175268379
Not since 0.14 or so
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>>175268397
Pan's easier, since there will be more Demonspawn there than in Hell. You probably shouldn't be scumming Hell for items in the first place, since it's so dangerous.
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>>175266374
Play Sil. It's seriously brilliant - it has the uniques you desire, but no themed branches. Does get very different the deeper you go, though!

CoQ is all about the random and impersonal, honestly - you mostly dick around and look for neat gear. Get the most broken mutations and some cool dual laser-pistols, something like that.

ADOM is well, ADOM. Spoilers and spoilers, really weird game, honestly. Play it if you love nethack and ballbusting.

Sil, though. Maybe Brogue!
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It's time to stop.
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Are there any other good post-apocalyptic roguelikes other than CDDA and Neo Scavenger
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Anyone playing Elona+? The newest update has living weapons and new goodies spawning like crazy!
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>>175268896
>are there any good [...] roguelikes
no I'm sorry
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>>175268761
I think i should be fine
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>>175268896
CoQ is OK I guess
Other than that though, not really
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>>175269087
Hell effects fucking suck dude
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>>175268896
>>175269131
Oh also get some fucking mods for Neo Scav, there's some great ones
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>>175269131
>>175269220
Thanks, will check'em out
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>it's another coquck shills his shit game episode
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>>175268896
>>175269131
Qud suffers from ADoM's Disease, but is otherwise pretty dank.
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>>175267936
Alright I get how they can be annoying, and I do have experiences from this myself ("More!? Enough already!").

Theme-wise however, sentient crawling oozes seems very appropriate to me in a Lovecraftian setting. I mean this cult half-accidentally called in all kinds of creatures from different worlds, or perhaps the oozes crept up from the depths of the earth. I could imagine a creature with an appearance like a crawling glob of oozing slime.
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>>175270137
Make a boss ooze that serves as the nucleus of the colony
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i'm sorry but why was summon xxx removed i thought it was funny
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>>175265048
retarded advice
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>>175270137
It's just a question of scale, I think. There's just so goddamn many, on basically every level - and with tight corridors you're going to be noticing them, running headfirst into them without recourse.
And, well - compared to locust, mummies, cultists or Colours out of Space I think they're very bland. Maybe I've missed a story but what made Lovecraft as scary as it is was alien sentience, not alien mindlessness - all devouring and thronging, sure, but it's not what comes to mind first. It's more about... cold detachment, and indifference towards your existence, not just 'hungry slime gonna gobble'. It lacks panache.
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>>175271747
It was horrible.
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>>175271747
they removed it?
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>>175271747
it's removed ???? are you fucking serious?
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>>175273065
>>175273242
>>175273242
No more XXX
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https://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/Keye/Keye.txt

What skill should I train next?
Shields to 15? Max maces? More fighting + armour?
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>>175273587
monstrus menagerie is dank as heck
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>>175273587
>summon horrible things
I don't think you know what summon xxx is.
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<---This might be my single favorite game of all time, any genre.
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REMOVE CONTENT remove content
you are worst bloat. you are the bloat idiot you are the bloat smell. return to r/dcss. to our r/dcss cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the zoo….ahahahaha , bloat we will never forgeve you. greaterplayer rascal FUck but fuck asshole content stink bloat sqhipere shqipare..content genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead bloat..ahahahahahBLOAT WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget .15. /rlg/ we kill the king , /rlg/ return to your precious mumo runs….hahahahaha idiot bloat and content smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE CONTENT FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. duvessa+dpeg+lasty+tavern=kill content…you will .15/ 2pak alive in .18, 2pak making rods of .18 . haste gozag 2pak .18. we are hasted and have maxed out rods now hahahaha ha because of 2pak… you are ppoor stink content… you live in a bloat hahahaha, you live in a outdated version

2pak alive numbr one #1 in .18 ….fuck the reddit ,..FUCKk ashol bloat no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur tiles and forum. 2pak aliv and real strong Wz kill all the bloatform sheep with recharged magic now we the .18 rule .brain worm of the zoo presidant lasty fukc the great dpeg and lay egg this egg hatch and minmay wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our content we will crush u lik a skull of pig. .18 greattst version
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>>175265048

>staff

ebin
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>>175273832
turn all your skills on, focus dodging and shields until shields is 15, focus fighting and dodging
turn weapons skill off at min-delay for whatever weapon you're going to be using for the rest of the game, probably an eveningstar.
>>175274057
It's Summon Horrible Things, duh
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>39 damage bolt of magma

and I'm done for today
Guess I shoulda used the haste and w/e
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>>175274441
But summon horrible things is still in the game.
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>>175273832
Shields to 15. That might convince Trog to gift you an eveningstar.

You should consider getting more Dex, probably by using your next few stat-ups at level 15 and 18 to boost it. EV should be a little bit over 9, just for safety's sake. Dodging and removing the shield penalty (by training Shields) should do it.
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>>175274441
thanks senpai
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>>175274210
>remove content
>2pak alive numbr one #1
>fuck the reddit
i do not comprehend
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>>175274694
If you were playing something other than a MiBe I'd get super autistic about swapping around between skills for getting the most bang for your buck immediately but you are so it doesn't matter at all.
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MuMo
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>>175275117
They're not a roguelike
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>>175273832
You might as well finish shields to 15. You should also focus dodging until your EV is like 15 atleast. Afterwards, focus fighting until its equal or higher than your weapon skill. Also, ID those glowing dark potions.
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>>175274676
also, thanks.
I think I tend to underestimate the value of EV and dex.
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>>175275127
What more do you want from me
Begone, you fool
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>>175275359
you're missing another 500 games before you can actually quit
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>>175275275
Tell me, child. Which is better: taking damage, or not taking damage?
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>>175275195

>not a roguelike
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what roguelike lets me be a nigger

seriously what's the best niggerlike, i wanna roleplay as a basketball american from detroit, is CDDA a good choice?
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>>175275602
C:DDA is a good Detroit simulator although it doesn't have as much wildlife as Detroit and the streets are a bit safer.
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>>175275469
198 Actually.
I'm pretty confident I can splat them in a couple hours.

http://crawl.xtahua.com:8080/#watch-SolarFlare
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>>175275793
ca nt watch your shit for some reason
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>>175275793
Takes me to the version choice screen but you're not in it. Also I thought you quit?
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>>175275793
>died and gave up already
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>>175275602
hellmoo?
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>>175276705
moos and muds are not roguelikes
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>>175276843
i know but it sounds closer to what you want than any roguelike i know of
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What's the deal with MuMo and Vampire Convict?
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>>175275793
>die in Crypt

Nigga come on. What would you say your success rate is for at least completing Lair? Things get much easier at that point.
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>>175266374
you dont have to pay for either of those games you retard
both have free versions available on the devs' websites
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>>175275793
>played nearly 5k games of the same combo
>hasn't transformed into the next incarnation of yermak
do you comprehend the concept of learning
does feedback mean anything do you
are you just doomed to repeat the same thing over and over without any improvement
do you even count as a human being
do you even have agency
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>>175277127
honestly anon I've watched him, he dies to shit that is normally escapable but not as a mumo

like what the fuck are you meant to do when you get dropped into the elf 3 vault by accident as a mumo
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>>175277127
how does learning improve you're rng
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>>175277293
>like what the fuck are you meant to do when you get dropped into the elf 3 vault by accident as a mumo
maybe read a scroll of teleportation because you haven't suboptimally wasted consumables i dunno m8 that's kind of a specific situation to have happen thousands of games in a row
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>>175277483
>read tele scroll
>get LCS'd while reading anyway cause game didn't drop shit for scrolls

anyway I'm just saying he dies to a bunch of RNG horseshit that he can't really take on
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>>175277571
>>>get LCS'd while reading anyway cause game didn't drop shit for scrolls
so you get shafted at full health then in the 3 turns it take to teleport you immediately get high damage roll lcs'd from elves that somehow woke up and evade/block none of them yeah i guess that rng is pretty brutal nothing much you can do outside of maybe fog or blink which is even more consumables wasted
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tfw no sheever gf
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Does MuMo anon ever play other combos in DCSS?
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>>175278837
dutch dota personalities are NOT a roguelike
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>>175275602
Sewer Goblet obviously.

https://www.talesofgames.com/related_game/the-sewer-goblet/#
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>>175279059
oh shit sorry i thought this was the gulag
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>>175277025
Vampire convict is a meme challenge
mumo is fun and pure
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>>175279259
Vampire convict is easy, meet me as a CamAmnMalCha+XJ on the Oracle level if you are a man.
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N A G A S
ARE
OP
I did this for you and only you, anon. You know who you are.
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>>175280447
fuck off COBRA
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>>175280120
I'll meet your mum in her oracle level, if you know what I mean.

I have 1000+ hrs in different roguelikes, but I've never played Nethack. Was I a sinner all along?
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Oh yeah sorry I had to go and feed the ducks

Let's try this again
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oh wow that was quick
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>Joseph's new tile shows he is wearing a hat
>He doesn't wear a hat
Devil's team trickery tarries terrifically close to treachery.
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Going all out

How about this I'll let you guys know when I get to level 5
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>>175280612
Nethack is terrible.

Comparing it to a Rubik's cube is apt, but it's more like a 6x6x6 one instead of the usual 3x3x3: once you've "solved" it or spoiled yourself with the solution, there's just no reason to play it ever again, largely because it's so goddamn tedious to play optimally.
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>>175280447
fuck off COBRA
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>>175281613
I have something like thirty crawl wins, too.
This thread still makes me laugh, I have it bookmarked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/54kdyv/psa_if_you_die_to_traps_you_only_have_yourself_to/
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>>175280447

That's a nice tumcount
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>>175282119
Yes, balance the game against turbo autists, nothing could go wrong right?
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>>175282218
I did about 2 zigs. No scumming otherwise.
Had a hat of pondering though because I love it
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>>175281613
>it's so goddamn tedious to play optimally.
I wouldn't say that, apart from sokoban. Nethack's issue is that every character turns out the same, and everything between the castle and astral plane you can basically only die by stupidity.

Unless you're doing multiple conducts, but then what did you expect?
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>>175282361
I streaked a couple of wins and then I realized how incredibly little fun I was having. Now I only play Sil and IA, with a tiny bit of FotM.
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I pity those stuck in the past, who cannot experience the joys of the wutang chessboxing.
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>>175283050
isn't it great fun
Now do it with dragon form
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THIS IS THE BEST STARTING AREA EVER
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Why was a plain old human with a staff of earth guarding the entrance to Orc?
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>tfw taking Quick and Fleet-Footed and realizing NPC meat shields can't keep up with me and I have to wait for them
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>>175284312
>he fell for the fleet-footed meme

get a load of this guy
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>>175281613
>doctor doctor, it hurts when I do this
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>webtiles
>but nobody watches unless you are at pan/hell
Sad
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>>175282119
Is this shit for real?
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MuMo
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>>175285979
Good, isn't it?
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>>175280447
>99.8k turns
kind of low tier desu
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>>175286364
>the turncount autist

dont forget he played offline
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>>175286447
But that was on fucking webtiles anon
You were the one asking for it because "muh offline doesn't matter"
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>>175286447
But you can see right there that he's playing webtiles
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>>175266374
>ADOM
>COQ
Both closed source.
>DCSS
>PCB
Open source. I'm sensing a pattern.
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>>175285371
>when you see a tavern regular logged on and he has five (5) spectators

It's honestly a little sickening. Like, do you plan something like that ahead of time?
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>>175286447
I'm just saying that all you've proved here is that Nagas are sort of average.
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>>175286217
goddamnit I told you to wait tomorrow
if ever
I don't even like playing mumo anymore
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>>175287086
I thought turncout was more about autistically speedrunning through the game instead of just winning
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>>175287261
T U M M Y
U
M
M
Y
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>>175282119
And I thought I had it bad.
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>last 3 games have had snake
Fffffuck nagas.
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>>175287551
just winning is nothing, crawl is an easy game if you rest and don't play mumo
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>>175287551
exactly
turncount literally doesnt matter unless you're doing meme gimmick "speedrun" attempts
and who the fuck speedruns a game where the entire dungeon is RANDOMLY GENERATED -- only retards
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>>175287960
the real funny thing is that he had about the same amount of traps as a normal play so the game probably rolls probability instead of generating traps on the actual map outside of vaults
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>>175283840
yeah, it's brutal
the tentacle always wins
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>>175288338
I sincerely hope people who unblack every tile and rest to full HP all the time don't think crawl is actually a hard game.
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>>175288168
It'll probably be a while until I try MuMo.
I still have some love left for myself
SkMo when
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>>175288535
>undead paladin; undead hunter
>ladies man
this is everything i ever wanted from a skeleton
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>enemies follow you with level changes
Lol fuck this game
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>>175289089
>you die
>still 9 HP left
10/10 good design
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>>175289340
his torso was destroyed though
you also die regardless of hp if head or dick is destroyed
and if you're beheaded your amulet of life saving will fall off before you die and be unable to trigger, lmao
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MuMo
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>Another game is already in progress using this save

what do? webtiles a shit
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Tips and Tricks

If you develop a consistent movement pattern for exploration, corners and other common dungeon features it will make exclusion placing quicker and make travel feel more natural.
Use guaranteed trap-free tiles as much as possible. These include shops, stairs, altars, portal entrances, etc.
While it can be difficult to see the exact movements of fast enemies such as adders, you can usually infer the path they took if you think a little about it.
Don't try to move too quickly or play too sloppily or you will invariably move off the carpet and risk trapping yourself
Use . if you are throwing or using a ranged weapon so that the ammunition falls on a safe tile.
Don't move towards enemies at all over untested terrain - let them come to you and reveal any traps themselves.
Monsters that are chasing you won't care at all about your exclusions. If you're retreating to a stair or doorway, you will need to consider whether it's better to walk on unsafe tiles or let the monster(s) take free swings at you. Letting a yak hit you twice might be better than being shafted or teleported at 50% HP.
Once they are no longer threatening, monsters such as bats and unseen horrors make very good minesweepers. You can wait while they test the area around you.
Monsters with repositioning abilities are uniquely dangerous. Against elephants and the like, you should position in a way that means any tramples will be onto safe tiles.
If you end up in a dire situation where a shaft or teleport trap would be better than what you're presently facing, you should walk on untested tiles as this will increase the chance of escape.
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>>175290083
id rather play mumo by slamming my dick on the kb than do that
how autismal do you need to be
>>
>I will never be so triggered by traps and doors that I descend into a fit of madness, awakening a primal autism that erupts from my very core to wash over a once reasonable human being, transforming me into some kind of cave troll
Feels bad.
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>>175290034

Oh great, just solved it by removing a single random line in the rc. It always has to be about removals
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>>175291119
probably changing the RC had nothing to do with it

last time you were playing you just closed the window instead of using the save command so your old session was still connected. it just took some time for it to realize that session was afk and kick it out
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>>175291290
no it just means his twin clone stopped playing and now he can use the account
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Mara pls go
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>>175285371
>>175287085
>tfw i play on rlgrobin on lantea often
>only get aaaaa to spectate me no matter where i am
;_;
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>>175268834
is that you Sar
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Mara is honestly my favourite unique monster design. What a good monster.
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>>175291290

No, it was just the connection going bonkers and sending me out. Didn't close anything

I tried relogging and resetting the internet but nothing worked. It's the rc
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>>175275602
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Being a ring is pretty great. I don't know why I'd ever play a normal caster after this.
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>Lunge stab a spriggan rider
>blow up both the spriggan and the wasp
CLAN IN THE FRONT
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>>175291705
no it is literally just time
you would have gotten the same result if you didn't touch the rc and spend the same amount of time staring at a wall

you are like those people who get a cold, decide to treat it with an energy-healing homeopathic crystal chakra massage, then when the cold clears up naturally after a day they decide that it must have been cured by the magic hippie bullshit instead of just being the normal result of their immune system working properly
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>>175292141
WAIT
HOLD THE PHONE
are you saying lunges can be used to stab without having to waste turns walking towards the sleeping (resting) monster?
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>>175287960
This one is better since he marked the zot trap on the left as well which i find hilarious as fuck
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>>175292349
Yes. Enemies only explode when you lunge stab them. Wutang is actually a really good god for stealth stabs. Both his abilities facilitate exploding the dudes with your chess boxing.
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>>175292349
You save a single turn because you can both move and attack with the last one
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>>175292349
surely the wutang moves can stab just like any other real attack

if you wanna be real cool get a polevault octuple-stab
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>>175292163

But when I tried to enter the game at almost the same time I re-logged and changed the rc afterwards, it didn't let me in. Are you saying that this is just coincidence? It's just time amirite lol

Oh well I'm not looking for pointless arguments. I'm just leaving this solution here since this worked for me, treat it what you will.
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VsFi of Uskayaw y/n
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>>175277293
>>175277293
>being this much of a ponyposter apologist
come on man
vinnie won in like 10 tries, although he wore a robe in the first two floors on the winning game
implojin won within like <100 tries (can't tell exactly because he played some more mumo after the win)
the dicksman had some great runs within his tens of tries, and he was very close to winning
but ponyposter took thousands upon thousands of tries slamming his face against the keyboard until his head slams traced out a decent mumo
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>>175292843
When I play console and that happens, it does a countdown and kicks out whoever is playing. This works also if somebody else is playing on my account, it kicks them out. They can do the same to me as well, since they have my login in this hypothetical. This only happens on robins.
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>>175292868
VsFi can win with anything.
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Oh, and his Sil move cleaves and stabs too. I don't know that it explodes guys though, since its much harder to do.
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>>175292983
actually he got his with 200 or so so still not bad
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>>175293051
It does not explode dudes, only the lunge does. But the lunge can explode dudes without the stab.
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>>175293153
>explodes without stabs
MY SPIRIT GROWS STRONGER!
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>>175288535
>skunk monk
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>>175293074
who ponyposter? i thought he had at least 500 tries before the first win
even so it really makes u think how come he hasn't been able to repeat it
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first time I've seen this one
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>>175292868
VSFi^Oka and go for 15 rune for those sick boots and stuff
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>>175292868

Yes, go as a stabber in heavy armour.
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>>175293731
wining a mumo challenge even once is pretty dank though, no need to do it again to prove that you can
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>>175291625
I think it's the amy
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>>175294561
u rted
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>>175294456
I thought Vs and Oka sucked in extended? Like isnt Oka basically just a pot of haste that throws trash at you in ext?
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>>175294774
Oka buffs skills which is pretty huge
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>>175292983
>being this much of a ponyposter apologist
What's wrong with it

Also you get to lair with 3 AC
it's annoying
I only cherrypick the best mumos
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>>175294735
i hate and wish to violently beat and rape this so called "the" amy
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>>175294774

Are you saying that its pseudo haste is bad? The full version got removed because it was too good, the same is true even if it's just for melee
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>>175295062
I don't think she'd like that unless you're a girl
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>>175295062
is that what your dad used to do to you

or do you just wish he did
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>>175294748

no u
>>
remember when haste and finesse stacked and someone in this thread said it didn't but then got proved wrong and then he was so buttblasted that he told the devs to remove this interaction so he could be right
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>>175295430
sorry for interjecting but i just wanted to say that girls can't rape
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>>175291625
we are all anon here, anon
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>>175295460

what

Is "the amy" a daddy? We've been tricked!
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>>175295740
>tfw I got something removed
Feels good man.
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>>175295740
i remember fondly
>>
Remember when we the crawl complaining to actual game screenshot ratio was 1 to 1

Now it's something like 10-1
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>>175295740

good times
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>>175295740
it was literally a bug
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>>175296196
complaining about crawl is more fun than actually playing it now
>>
Dcss casters never make sense to me. Do i go full blasty and pick up some melee in lair, or the other way around? Do I try to be hybrid the whole time instead?
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>>175296196
I remember when this thread was almost killed off because some dude kept spamming his shitty uninteresting crawl screenshots
Or maybe he was keeping it alive I don't know
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>>175296196
How about switching over to complaining about SLEX? The Amy cordially invites /rlg/ to list every little thing that is "bullshit" and "should be removed". Except that she won't actually remove anything, unlike the dev team of a certain other game.
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remember when new people would post wins and we would congratulate them and put them in the OP and it was like getting a hug from the general whenever you won
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>>175296591
We still do that.
>>175296547
Amy nobody plays your game but you
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>>175296547
I hate your GUI. It's too little like Dynahack.
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>>175296547
even though i usually don't hold grudges i just wanted you to know i genuinely and i truly dislike you as a person and wish ill upon you in every facet of life because you cultivate an internet identity in an anonymous imageboard
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>>175296591
You'd also get love for the win no matter the game. There was barely a murmur when 2 people killed big J in the same thread recently.
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>>175296419
You can do all three.
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>>175296591
>>175296837
I blame oldfags for not keeping traditions alive.
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>>175296837
Personally I get super pumped whenever the Big J goes down
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>>175296419

When you play an otabber, do you memorize Stone Arrow so you can be a "muh hybrid" and be "efficient" with your unused mana? There's your answer
>>
Remember that one time the thread went fucking nuclear because one guy played dredmor.
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>>175296837
I actually dislike PCB so
>>
If it's not PCB, it's DCSS
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>>175296419
you pick up some melee so you can tab through packs of nonthreatening chaff like green rats without wasting mana on fireballs
>>
We had a really strong Elona+ fotm period after the one way heroics fotm cooled off, and when doom and then demon.
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>>175292983
>bucklers

Not mumos, literally usurpers.
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>>175296419
picking up melee in lair is a meme last resort for when you find 0 books and play no gifting god yet thought it was a good idea to roll a book background and rely on floor rng like dirty memer that you are. ordinarily the only thing you should ever "pick up" aside from spells is evocations so you can use a staff of power and resume your spellcasting.

>>175297265
skilling based on green rats is one of the most idiotic things you can do. instead of wasting exp on popcorn killing efficiency waste it on higher tier spells and stealth.
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>>175294774
Oka is never bad with free haste and free skill increase which is huge
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>>175297619
the point being that if you have to cast fireball on green rats you will be at low mana when some non-green-rat thing comes to investigate the loud-as-fuck noise
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>>175296837
I post flippant responses to PCB winners, like "u did gud" or "try a real combo next time"
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>>175295740
>tfw stacking haste and finesse let you swing a spiked giant club at ~0.3 speed
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>>175297619
skilling melee is literally just an excuse to get fighting and dodging skill, which greatly improves survivability post-lair
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>>175297136
ya tozhe nenavizhu poschengband
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>>175296419
No you just run away from shit you can't kill with your mana pool
>>
how I cataclysm
how I survive the dark days ahead
me hungee
>>
мнe aхyeннa ))))
>>
И MHE
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>>175297619
If you find a staff of <your element>, and you worship Ash, then you basically won already. That's the only time you should pick up melee on a pure caster.
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>>175297792
no it didn't

the bug specifically was just that hastefinesse let you ignore the 0.2-aut attackspeed cap
it didn't make you attack any faster UNLESS you were already being restricted by that cap, aka hastefinesse quickblade
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>>175297886
>spiny frog
RIP
>black mamba
>RIP
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>>175296196
We've played roguelikes to death. The only things left are
>wow look at my wacky situation
>i splatted again
>my 500th win, please fellate me some more
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:3
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stop russian posting i can't even translate it in google or transliterate it into english i feel excluded and bullied
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Can anyone connect to the gnollcrawl.tk server? I've been trying for 20+ minutes now and still no luck.
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>>175298373
to be fair if we all played new roguelikes we'd have more discussion
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>>175298373
to be fair all social media is pretty much this or morality wars
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>>175297752
>>175298291

>when some non-green-rat thing comes to investigate the loud-as-fuck noise
>blah blah can't walk away

You already FAULTed if you let this be an issue at all. Doesn't matter even if it's a centaur warrior or some anaconda or some r*ddit frog, if you've reached that point then you should always ensure you already have tons of options for dealing with them. If you actually reached 0 mana on an unexplored area known for speed 12s away from the stairs then that's also FAULT.
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>>175298525
Put a www in front of it.
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>>175298620
>new roguelikes
Where are they
>>
>>175298507

>>175298014
"i feel fucking good"

>>175298142
"me too"
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>>175298748
slex is a relatively new roguelike nobody has ever played
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>>175298709
>his browser doesn't automatically add the http:// or even the www
fucking terminal players
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>>175298525
http://gnollcrawl.tk:8080

?
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>>175298874
that's because it's shit
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>>175298748
well you can always check out http://7drl.org/

but really he means play roguelikes that are new TO YOU
Only ever played dcss? Give pcb a try.
Ascended 100 tonberries in pcb already? Why not go for ADOM?
Bored after becoming a Troll Archmage? Hey maybe play IA.
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>>175298874
for good reason
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>>175298913
>>175298709
he's obviously talking about ssh not the fucking website you mongoloids
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>>175299026
personally I'm waiting for Jupiter Hell so Kornel can jew me out of some more of my sheckels
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>Be a DEFE^Hep
>have 15/15 HP on Lair: 5
>take """"1"""" step, see a rime drake
>already faulted, shoot a fireball at it
>wake up 10 (ten) spiny frogs
>they croak in the same turn they come into LoS
>wake up 17 (SEVENTEEN) blink frogs
>they croak too
>5 black mambas, 3 water moccasins and Nessos come into view
>Nessos quaffs a haste potion
>They all descend upon your limp elven wrists
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>>175298874
I've played to like level 5 to (literal) shitpost about it.

Which is pretty much the only thing to do with it, really.
>>
so did everyone just realize brogue was rng horseshit and stop playing it?
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>>175299156
then obviously you have to use port 8080 you fucking rtrd (repel turds)
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>>175299156
gnollcrawl doesn't support SSH because the owner is a DIRTY FILTHY WEBTILES CASUAL
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>>175299298
no but i realized that allies getting themselves killed was annoying frustrating horseshit and the game's headroom is too low for you to afford leaving them behind when it gives them to you
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>>175299265
wow that game really has no redeeming feature whatsoever
I wonder if amy has a brain tumor
no sane person would find it good
>>
>>175299156
I'm not actually
>>175298709
>>175298937
I mean, I can go to the site, and I can log in, and I can click the relevant links, and I go to the loading screens, but it stops there; it never loads.

I've tried other servers and they work, it's just gnollcrawl.tk that refuses to.
>>
does amy have autism
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>>175299531
honestly I feel like it was Monty Hall the Roguelike except you'd find out you picked the wrong door after 3 hours
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>>175298239
I remember someone posting pics in here attacking with finesse and haste with gsc and maxed maces and flail with like 0.3
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there are very very accurate online tests you can take to see if you have autism by whether or not you can tell someone's emotional state by looking at their eyes
>>
slex is a game for dykes
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>>175299626
>implying there's anyone on this board without autism
>>
Warning: we will not accept any slex image in this thread.
>>175299913
did you win son
>>
is slex that autismlike with a farting trap?
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>>175299913
where? I'd really like to see if I have the 'tisms.
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>>175299913
I am interested in this and would like a link
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you just don't GET it.
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>>175300124
the more I hear the worse it sounds

does it make you roll for anal circumference too?
>>
just google 'mind in the eyes' there are many such tests and they're used by clinical psychologists
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>>175300447
https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Trap_(Slash%27EM_Extended)#Nasty_traps

the nasty traps are particularly insidious
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Is there an internet test for STD's?
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>>175281158
>>175281353
How do people edit the player sprite like this for crawl?
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>>175300737
Don't worry anon, a little halfing wizard like you is not at risk of having sex. You are therefore, immune to STD's.
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>>175299261
>be a MiFi^Oka
>have 194/194 HP on D9
>fire giant comes into view
>whew good thing I've got rf+++
>just walk away
>6 (six) electric eels come into view
>they each double-zap me 8 times as I approach them
>18 (eighteen) death yaks come into view
>whew good thing I worship Oka
>tab through them all with my +1 mace, electric eels make it go faster
>49 (forty nine) orc sorcerers comes into view
>in the span of one turn 40 greater demons are summoned
>including Dispater
>30 bolts of fire burn me, executioners hit me so many times it takes 25 minutes just to spacebar through the message log
>contemplate whether I should waste piety on heroism
>nah, I'm a MiFi after all
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>>175299905
maybe gsc of speed
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>be Tm of Chei
>move 1 tile
>get rekt by 4 torments from 2 tormentors
>get destroyed by 4 damnations from a single hellion
>get rekt by 2 Brimstone friends casting 4 damnations
>Dispater casts LCS 10(ten) times
>an awoo managed to land a howl debuff
>a naga of Chei answers the summons
>-1000000/260hp
>Chei takes off his mask and reveals the face of a grinning Xom
>+15 stats and dat Slouchâ„¢ amirite lads
>Xom thinks this is hilarious
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>>175298525
>>175299598
https://crawl.project357.org/play/dcss-web-gnollcrawl
this is where i played it
you're probably trying to play on some hacker exploit virus site
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>be NaTm^Chei
>walk into 3 hellions around the corner
>die
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ok so i have an idea for a god hear me out

it's a merchant god that uniquely doesn't care about piety, but instead, uses god to fund abilities

the catch about him is that instead of corpses, when monsters die they leave behind gold, in exchange this god allows you to buy nutrition using the gold you got! it works out so monsters give you more gold than the nutrition cost it took to clear them, so you always have excess gold for abilities, but if you delay too much you run out of gold and starve. this is a metaphor for being forced to engage in a capitalist economy to survive instead of living off the land, as well as an experiment for the potential removal of a hunger clock.
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>>175301929
The gnollcrawl server has a bunch of Crawl forks on it.
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>>175301929
No it's a special site for the weird crawl variants. Like P357 but not in Australia.
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>>175302214
NEW HERO: DAMAGE MAN

Quas: AoE damage that stuns

Wex: AoE damage that hits buildings

Exort: AoE damage that slows

invokeR: AoE damage that's toggled
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>>175302214
0/10 not trog so there is literally no reason to pick him
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>>175302338
edict isnt aoe damage u little shit
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>>175299913

>by looking at their eyes

opinion discarded
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>>175302214

>it's a merchant

redundancy
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>>175302735
anon eye contact is a very important part of socialization, and impaired social abilities is one of the diagnostic criteria for autism spectrum disorder
did you know that in newborn babies aversion from eye contact is a strong predictor of autism? they tested it in a bunch of babies and then did a follow up when they were toddlers (which is the earliest age you can test for autism) and found that the newborn babies who were late in exhibiting eye contact were significantly more likely to test positively for autism
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>>175302646
its damage in an aoe that happens to concentrate on one target but may randomly jump to others hence the aoe
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>>175303258
Can't you just stare at babies for a long time to cure their autism then?
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>>175303258

Yes, eye contact is a very important part of socialization but pedophilia experiments have nothing to do with psychological disorders unfortunately.
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>>175303560
no autism is almost entirely caused by genetics

>>175303606
anon i'm not sure if you understand the experiment or just memeing on me if so please stop
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TES roguelike when? I'd really like to go full @E GHARTOK PADOHME [CHIM] AE ALTADOON and bitch how modal it is
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>>175303560
it's not that avoiding eye contact causes autism
it's that babies with autism avoid eye contact. but you can't test to be actually sure whether they have autism or not until later
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>>175303760
Numidium says NO and you stop existing
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>>175303709

No I'm not. Wake up from reality and stop gobbling information pedophiles forced upon your throat
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>>175303905
>you step into a Grey Maybe trap
>The Numidium is confused!
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>>175304108
Oh no! Landfall!
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How hard is it to make a Roguelike? Is it particularly complicated, or is it more a perseverance issue where the main roadbloack is that you have to add stuff gradually over tome?

It seems like it might be a fun kind of thing to do, is all.
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>>175304084
i don't understand why you question the validity of this information.
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>>175304228

tome is not a roguelike
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>>175304228
ask the amytism, she's prolly the one wth the most experience
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>>175304324
I knew this would happen
I'm committing sudoku now
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>>175304228
It's hard work no matter how you slice it. Forking an existing project means learning the code pretty thoroughly (and maybe improving it); making a game from scratch is exactly that, which is probably much more daunting.

To be fair, you don't have to be a coding genius: if Moria and Hack can be accused of having bad code and creating generations of roguelikes with bad code, it's because their devs were just college kids who felt like making a game to test out what they knew about coding.
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the most obvious sign that "autism" isn't a real thing is that it's actually a spectrum disorder
which means everyone is a little autistic depending on the fucking day of the week
it's retarded
did you know it's bad manners to look at people in the eyes in jap land? so they're all autistic huh
weird
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>>175304332
he should try to start a relationship with amy online as a fellow roguelike dev slowly build up trust and rapport and then goad her into meeting irl at which point he should violently beat and rape her repeatedly so that she may be scarred for life and her psychological damage will profoundly impair her to find happiness and satisfaction as a human being
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>>175301243
Fuck, could have been, yeah
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>>175304748
literally every single disease is a spectrum
do you know the slightest thing about medicine
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>>175304748
man you really are touchy about this eye thing
are you actually autistic
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>>175304872
this post gave me cancer
delete this

>>175304910
you can manually stare into peoples' eyes
it's called faking it until you make it
boom
no more autism
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>>175304748

this is why "psychology" is a joke and should never be taken seriously
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I probably shouldn't post this (because I don't want to be yet-another-""dev""-who-doesn't-follow-through) but I'm seriously considering making a fork of Crawl with one major change:

Simplify or remove Crawl's current skill system

As is, skilling is basically like 66.6% of the game. The major factor behind a lot of encounters isn't "maybe I'll get a good drop" or "I have to kill monster X to get further in the game or to stay alive" but quite simply "I need more XP to reach certain skill level". Especially now that so much flavor has been removed, now that so many different possible playstyles have been removed/nerfed, and now that so much "tedium" has been removed elsewhere, the skill system is one of the last truly tedious elements of the game.

Simplifying the skill system (to the point where players don't really have to think about it, like a Minotaur Berserker's very simple skilling) allows the player to focus on the gameplay itself, which is one of the last bastions of flavor, as opposed to a skill system which is entirely too meta for its own good and takes players out of the experience.

Once that problem has been solved, the developers can bring the focus back to Making Crawl Gameplay Great Again.
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>>175303258
>>175303560
How do you tell the difference between someone who can't connect and someone who disapproves and thereby rejects connections?
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>>175304756
I like the way you think!
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>>175305027
Bouncing off an idea in the last thread (>>175126562 -- about Elementalists), I'm most interested in keeping the "skills" but compacting them to something that makes a bit more logical sense.

Essentially:
1) You'd have, say, 4-5 main skills to worry about instead of all 31 that currently exist. The big ones would be Weapons (weapon skills), Magic (magic schools), and Physicality (armor and dodging; *maybe* fighting). Invocations would be another; "Ranged" might be the last. Evocations, if it still exists, would be defined by the average between Weapon skill, Magic, and XL.

2) With Weapons and Magic (and Ranged), aptitudes for specific weapon types and magic schools would still exist, but they'd work in conjunction with those main skills. So, say you skill Magic to 10: if you have high Conjurations aptitude, you get more Conjuration power/success, and if you have low Fire aptitude, you'd get lower power/success. Same goes for melee: training Weapons to 10, you'd have higher damage/accuracy with things you have strong aptitudes for, and so on.

A major consequence -- hence me thinking of a big fork -- is that classes would need reworking, too.
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>>175305002
the implication that spectrum means "everyone has a little bit of it" is entirely made up by retards like you. a spectrum can contain the value 0 and people can be "off the spectrum" so to speak.
to say that there's something unique about autism being a spectrum belies complete ignorance of medical knowledge because there is literally not a single disease on this planet that doesn't come in varying degrees of severity, therefore by definition, exists on a spectrum.
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What if amy was actually a bear
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>>175305002
do you actually know what autism means in a non-meme context
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>>175305027
that game exists it's called brogue and it kind of sucks sometimes
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>>175305294
bears can be sexually abused after being sufficiently weakened
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>>175305294
TOME EATING WENCH
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Wutang makes tabbing actually interesting.
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>>175305362
it literally just means you're skeptical of the majority beliefs and preferences and prone to doing your own thing or rejecting the patterns that others try to imprint on you

shitty parents get real upset when their child recognizes their bullshit and stops wanting hugs and kisses from someone who displays fundamentally unreliable and often hurtful behavior
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>>175305679
this post could have been much shorter and maintained about the same meaning if your answer was just "no i do not"
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>>175305679
like almost every time someone talks about autism, even professionals, their inventing a disorder by conflating traits from aspergers and OCD while demonizing cognitive independence and rebelliousness for no decent reason other than that the jews need everyone to pay taxes and take out loans
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>>175305807

NO! IIE! TOME. IS. NOT. A. ROGUELIKE! I want IT [REMOVED] [simplified] [purification] from the arelgean Premises! RIGHT NOW!
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>>175305532
You literally turn into doom guy. Is anyone else actually playing roguelikes here?
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>>175306212
explain this
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You know, I preferred the dcss shitposting.
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>>175305679
anon that is not what autism means. clinical psychologists don't just decide on the spot to diagnose kids with autism because the kids' parents whine and complain. the diagnostic criteria for autism is clearly defined in the 5th edition of the diagnostic and statistical manual and they could lose their jobs if they just fuck around.

>>175305892
anon aspergers doesn't even exist anymore and OCD is different from autism because OCD is just about the quirky behavior, while people with autism have profound social disabilities. the only reason you think autism doesn't exist is because you've been memeing too hard on the internet, maybe someone told you they had autism but they were actually high functioning which is only a minority of people with autism. the average person with autism is extremely socially fucked
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>>175306379
someone has made a mistake
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>>175306425
The reason I think it's made up is because reading actual books about autism is like reading a schizophrenic's diary. Whatever Autism actually is, I can only rationalize that it's a symptomatic manifestation of something else entirely, the mechanisms of which are clearly not understood.
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>>175306865
i mean maybe there's some variation in high-functioning/aspergers types

but there are also the low-functioning practically-retarded yes-this-guy-really-obviously-has-a-mental-disorder-because-he-is-20-years-old-and-doesn't-know-how-to-talk-or-feed-himself shit
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>>175306865
there are multiple causes for autism some genetic some environmental but that's generally irrelevant to diagnostic criteria is concerned. you know there are many conditions that have multiple causes and some of which aren't fully understood yet they still exist.
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>>175307149
vaccines arent from environment they are CHEMICALS from a MAN-MADE LAB
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>>175307269
i didn't mean vaccines when i said environment anon vaccines don't cause autism
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>>175307378
GMO crops dont count as real enviroment either though, they also have chemicals
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>>175307583
everything that isn't genetic counts as environment m8
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Everything is chemicals, anon.
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>>175307723
no enviroment is things like trees and flowers and birds and other natural things
chemicals arent natural
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>>175307917
trees and birds are made of chemicals
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>>175308016
i dont mean gmo trees i mean real ones from outside
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ROGUELIKES
O
G
U
E L I K E S
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roguelikes are made of chemicals
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>>175305027
>>175305114
gay
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*Record scratch*
*Freeze Frame*
Yep, that's me. So you're probably wondering right now how I faulted myself in this situation
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>>175308365
unworthy of pearl dragon armour [sic]
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>>175308365
Read fear, you fool.
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>>175308702
I did. Cancellation into fear. It didn't fear the entropy weaver and 1 tarantella. I got confused in the next turn. Same cancellation into fear. Again, entropy weaver and same fucking tarantella resisted. Got confused AGAIN.
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>>175308584
it wasn't just Pearl Dragon armor. IT was a randart PDA with +8 int, rF+ and MR+. I'm actively considering lobotomizing myself after losing this, because I am probably a vegetable in human form and I don't deserve to be playing this game. I'll probably go play SLEX instead and die to a butt trap and then commit sujamma.
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>>175308365
>>175308817
>>175308983
why didn't you ligshaft what the FUCK
i guess autism really is real
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>>175308365
>not hasted
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>>175308817
Christ, what luck. Rip at Pete's anon. You really screwed the pooch on this one. Spider is always rough for an ant though.
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Should I do another zig or not, anon?
You decide.
But only if it's you, you know who you are
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>>175309126
>shafting while lignificated
is this even a legal move in the game formerly known as linley's dungeon crawl
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>>175309318
>fast ant
What did he mean by this?
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>>175309420
COBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>175309502
swift finesse = ant haste
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>>175309440
> linley's dungeon crawl
Don't you dare speak that name again
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>>175309565
I've gotten the hang of webtiles now.
Doing more fighter nagas with shield & 1h axes especially for you
I could already go for 15 runes again I suppose instead of doing this zigg. Didn't even scum once besides this single zig, but frankly, some high zig floors are way more difficult than anything on extended
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>>175305027

smhing my forehead to this simplification autism
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>>175309746
Fuck off COBRA
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>>175309746
COBRA. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to post. There are 387.44 million megabytes of storage space in multiple hard drive layers that fill my computer. If the word 'COBRA' was engraved on each kilobyte of those hundreds of millions of megabytes it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for COBRA at this micro-instant. For you. COBRA. COBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
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>>175310279
Don't you worry, now.
I, for one, shall always love you.
it's not my fault nagas are such a good race
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>>175308365
As a Formicid, you always explore each stairs down you come across to see if they're safe for stairdancing before exploring full level. It can apply to all other normal speed races or slower, but especially to Formicids and doubly so in Spider. You should also avoid exploring that far from stairs, instead trying to go deeper and see if there aren't second stairs up somewhere close there so you can explore from a different point (and stairdance when necessary).
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>>175307149
The same symptoms caused by different mechanisms constitutes a separate illness that probably requires different treatment and is systematically different in some fundamental way.
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>>175307092
Neurologically it makes no sense to put those in the same category. On the one hand you have a person who has raised their concentration and memorization skills outside of normal boundaries by dropping from their attention and learning habits things that normal people do constantly and rerouting their cognitive faculties, while on the other hand you have a person who is literally handicapped and doesn't have the same cognitive resources that others have while also having failures or maladaptations of important brain mechanisms that would probably be essential to life in a natural environment.
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>>175307723
What if your environment can flip the switches attached to dormant genes in your DNA? There is evidence for such a thing, like your DNA changing in a very small and specific way from when you are born to the time you die and these changes being passed on to offspring, probably to enhance survival when migrating to a different climate or other such things.
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>>175309420
you have to do 27 ziggs or you're not a man
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>>175313683
>what is epigenetics
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*blocks your path*
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>>175314318
I don't see how epigenetics rules out micromutation.
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>>175314637
No, I mean you essentially described epigenetics.
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>>175309772
Why?

Most other roguelikes either don't have a skill system at all or simplify quite a bit. It adds *no* flavor to Crawl as it currently stands, and even if it were made to be more flavorful (a la Sil, which I also dislike), it would still take quite a bit of simplification so that the game isn't so oriented around skilling.

One of the least fun parts of Crawl and other RPGs is worrying about skilling and "wasted XP". As a player, I want to focus on the game and interesting situations, not making sure I have N points of XP so I can do action A with efficiency Z. ***And*** it's not as if it's utterly removing those aspects: it's just making them more logical.
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>>175314773
oh you were doing like a jeopardy thing on me
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What is the MiBe of poscheng?
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>>175314368
what does ss mean

safe sex?
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>games so fucking bad and general so fucking dead that people are discussing autism instead of playing
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>>175314368
All I see is [removed].
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>>175315154
android rune knight
tonberry monk of nature
demigod anything
yeek archmage
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>>175315740
I played my ring monster for like 2 hours today shut up
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>>175315740
I did a bunch of wutang fisting. Got 2 runes today.
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>>175315154
>>175315861
Android Rune Knight is kind of hard honestly, RK isn't the best straight up fighting class.

I'd say Attack Steel Dragon monster or Tonberry Berserker, though Berserkers have a lot more problems in PCB.
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>>175315268
straight shota
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>>175316781
>>175315154
>>175315861

weren't balrogs the straight up easiest PCB race?
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YEEK
E
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Yeeks. More like YAWN, amirite guys?
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It's one of those nights, guys. This must be what being female feels like.
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>>175318665
JUST WALK AWAY.
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So, is zigscumming the best way to overinflate your final dcss score?
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Would anyone ITT play a Crawl fork that brought back the old-school EXP pool?
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>>175319019
Not at all.

The best way to get a higher score is to get a lower turn count.

At three runes, that can take your score from 1.8mil to 6mil at the current best, and at 15 runes, a speed run can take your score from 15mil to 75mil at the current best.

Zigscumming is just to feel like you're unstoppable.
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>>175319403
So basically races with faster movement have an advantage here?
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>>175319486
Player action turn counts and aut counts are different.
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>>175317146
Balrog warrior is probably the most straightforward and is very strong, but I think it's contested as straight up easiest. Tonberry nature monk is slightly more complicated in terms of having weight restriction and needing spellbooks, but gets a giant convenient toolkit and doesn't require weapons to get stupid high damage.
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>>175319486
Score is (currently! might change in the near future) based on player turns. So, any player action is considered one turn (a single 15 aut swing of a weapon is 1 turn, as is a single 3 aut swing of a weapon).

Resting is a series of single turns doing nothing, so a speed runner might spend that time wading in water to get fewer player turns per aut.
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>>175319486
currently speedruns are scored based on # of player actions rather than # of auts which leads to some real retarded behavior like

-chei being a good speedrun god
-wielding a loaf of bread or scythe or something and swinging it instead of of pressing 5 when you want to rest. since breadswinging takes 15 auts, you can rest for 300 turns with only +200 to your turncount isntead of the +300 you'd get from pressing 5
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>tfw breadswinging under trogs hand during the berserk slow for those juicy 3 aut turns
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i just found out i'm an autist
which roguelike is the best/most fun for autists?
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>>175317146
Balrog is bullshit hard because they starve to death all the fucking time.
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>>175319245
>Would anyone ITT play a Crawl fork that brought back the old-school
I would prefer a fork of Crawl that was an undo on all the removals that have been made. Bring back divinations, bring back potion evaporation, dwarves, elves, etc etc

Even better if the fork was titled "Dungeon Crawl: Actual Soup" just as the biggest fuck-you to those removal boner retards.
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>>175320559
I just never rest at all. I rest by exploring.
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>>175321367
elona+
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>>175321367
DDA.

Make sure to grow all the oats or build a base that looks like it came out of dwarf fortress.
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>>175321507
kek
this
>>
So what are you lads playing tonight?
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Just wanted to mention that there's a new Tolkien book coming out May 4. It's gonna be the Beren and Luthien part of the Silmarillion put in full, pieced together from Tolkien's notes.

I shall use this as inspiration to actually try to win Sil
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Is FTL welcome here? I didn't see a roguelite general. I made a video.

https://youtu.be/_7kMIUVBRpE
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>>175326729
No.
>>175326606
As always, if you want to beat Sil use a stealth build or rush for and use flanking+dodging.
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>>175326729
yea
other roguelites we like to play here are PCB, DDA, Elona+, IA
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If you activate the Wutang free movement against a sleeping enemy, do you get to do multiple stabs or does the first wake them up?
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Man, I'm really starting to grow on vanilla Angband. It's really comfy, and also nervewracking in just the right ways. Its only weakness is that there are a ton of ways to play, and that the most fun way to play it (which is also among the safer ways to play it) is not obvious, or even stated in the help/manual.

Even though its trunk is still rough and has a lot of kinks in it, it's a *huge* improvement on the kind of tedious/annoying feel of previous versions, particularly their early games. I recommend giving it a try if you've only played 4.0.5 (or earlier versions) and thought they were faulty.

http://rephial.org/nightlies
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You guys complain about the trap guy but yermak lost a streak by getting shafted to d:2 right away next to an adder
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>>175327206
First will wake.
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>>175327773
Good, long streaks shouldn't happen. In some circumstances death should be guaranteed, just like in real life.
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News from the devils team
>Long blade skill is now Short & Long Blades
>Maces skill is now Maces & Axes
>Polearms is now Polearms & Staves
>goal is to make people actually use more than 1 weapon type they decide on at the beginning of the game
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>>175327773
who is the trap guy
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>>175328597
ultraviolent
https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/54kdyv/psa_if_you_die_to_traps_you_only_have_yourself_to/
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how many attacks can you get in a single turn if you are a statueform naga of wutang wading through water, wielding a quickblade, and using the silflanking to attack
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>>175328572
Link?
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>>175327773
It was only 10 wins, but that's not the whole story.

What actually happened:
http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/ttyrec/Yermak/2016-05-13.16:55:30.ttyrec.bz2

>gets shafted straight into Crazy Yiuf's vault (how is it not a bug that you can be shafted behind runed vaults?)
>evokes feet away from Yiuf, who's still asleep
>takes the only path leading out of that vault
>sees two enemies and kills them with magic dart (which isn't silent at such a low level)
>the second enemy is right in front of stairs going up
>rather than getting closer to the stairs, he shoots from far away
>that wakes up an adder
>Yermak is then fucked

He also didn't read either of his two scrolls, and basically banked on being able to kill the adder with Magic Dart, which *almost* happened, but didn't.

The shaft fucked him a little bit, but Yermak was in the wrong at least 40% -- Crawl's damage and success rate RNG is the bigger villain.
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>>175326729
I think the roguelite general got subsumed into the indie general.
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Just stopping by to let you guys, grills, and horses know that there might have been a 4th Pharaoh win.

http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Leszczynek/morgue-Leszczynek-20170115-055137.txt

Found it as a surprise when making a cheeky Sequell query. Someone with more time, more ponies, and a stronger curse can go through and verify it/summon the dicks.

Also, you should really play Hellcrawl. It's the best.
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>>175330593
>regen amulet
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>>175330593
People are going to get up in arms about that regen amulet. Honestly, he should make it on the list with a snarky title about the amulet.
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>>175330593
Dang he only started to use a buckler after 10 shields
Is he the true pharaoh?
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>>175330845
>Honestly, he should make it on the list with a snarky title about the amulet.
I agree. He even left comments in the log about his haram.
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>>175330845
>>175330593
I thought amulets in general were banned
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>>175331028
>that log
Oh man, that is actually hilarious. You can feel his stress seeping through literally every encounter.
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>>175331132
The first rule of MuMo was always to have fun while keeping the spirit of making the ground less soft.

It looks to me from skimming the morgue like this guy kept the spirit of things, but I'm not about to bother with ttyrecs or watching it on footv.

Anyway, three posts in /rlg/ is enough for this year. Smell you later, nerds.
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>>175331362
whooooooooo are you?

who? who?
who? who?
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>>175330593
fucking retard liar shill
he literally posted that a thread or two ago, and it was talked about a couple of times already
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>>175331362
Keep in touch babe.
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Better CDDA when
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Post your winrates. Sub-1% here.
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>>175336667
8%
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>>175335150
Cata 2 soon, anon.
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If you're sub 70% you literally aren't even trying.
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Stabblemage.
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>>175308817
curing removes confusion and you don't need to be uncorroded to read fear/walk away
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>>175301164
non-Mi players BTFO
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>>175315870
oh nice! Wu Tang buddies! I also got two runes.
>>175329123
Until just recently, being slowed would fuck up your Wu Tang attacks. Don't use flanking against single targets either.
>>175337268
I greatly appreciate your JoJo reference, anon.
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>>175338136
>JoJo reference
Very much resent this becoming a meme.
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>>175339525
I wasn't memeing, if I was memeing I would have posted a retarded image along with the text "IS THIS A JOJO REFERENCE??1?" or something equally retarded.
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>>175339590
I still resent it becoming a meme.
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>>175340120
Yeah it's really stupid and annoying. But still, Vampire of Heplia with your stand being named The World is pretty great
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>>175337268
Nice. I did a vampire of hep back when hep was in trunk. Really fun combo, although I went with a warrior. Vampires would be a lot cooler if their blood was less finnicky.
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>>175340496
I foolishly tried to fight mara and died.
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Large shield of protection on a mumo, yes/no? I could go all str instead of all dex.
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>>175341124
fuck yes
and yea dex is overrated on mumo, str actually helps you kill shit, dex is marginal "maybe not die"
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>>175341353
>>175341124
Depends on version
Trunk punishes high dex much harsher than 0.15
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How does faith work with ru
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>>175342258
the bigger the sacrifice the more faith you gain - no need to go past 5 stars of piety, piety doesn't decay
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>>175342317
>- no need to go past 5 stars of piety
retarded, every single ability scales with piety and the counter is like 20% with 5* and 30% with 6
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>>175342258
You sacrifice stuff when he thinks its the right time, bigger the sacrifice, more piety you get
So for example, sometimes you can get like to sacrifice a dex and get a dopey or stupid perma mutation and get 0 or 1 star while at the same time you can sacrifice magic schools of con/fire/trans and get 3 stars.. The point is to sacrifice the things you really wont need and you should be careful with that, just sacrifice the stuff that either you dont need or cripple you a little bit, because whenever you turn off the sacrifice, he takes lot more time until he thinks youre ready for a new sacrifice and the timer increases with every turn off
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What should a long blade char use against hydras
A dagger? 0 skill flail?
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>>175342679
>Resistance, Courage, Arm
>Armour, Dodge, Resistance
>Artifice, Courage, MR-
Typical first 3 Ru offers and then you wont see any for the rest of the game
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>>175342258
both of those faggots answered questions that weren't asked
faith just decreases the time between new gifts
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>>175342689
A mace or luck out onto a fire brand long sword

>>175342801
>tfw you get to sacrifice schools of magic on your first sacrifice for that sick 2 star piety
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>>175342921
>its conjuration, charms and tloc
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>>175342689
>>175342921
Btw if you have a short blade of freezing, use that
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>>175342689
if you have a decent ego shortblade you can use that through crosstraining
or if you dont have a good way to kill hydras without spending consumables just walk away
they're speed 10
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In this episode of Funny Vaults, pic related.

Maybe I should get Invisibility but holy shit does training things on a Mummy takes a bit of time.
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>>175344267
1
SPECTATOR

Also that looks quite tabbable
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>>175336667

2 (two) digit
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>>175344474
It's beem.

Berserked golden dragons and monstrosities keeping you in place are not exactly what I'd call tabbable. Of course it's Gozag so I can just bribe all of them, but I want to save gold for extended, in which I will inevitably die because apparently since Haste spell/wand removal I'm unable to get 15 runes even with a minotaur of TSO.
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>>175330593

Fuck you, your opinions and your shit meme fork
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>>175330593
You know I played this with amulets, right?
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Was item spawn in CDDA nerfed recently? I am no longer finding stacks after stacks of edibles in grocery stores
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>>175312942
not necessarily. there can be multiple reasons why your body fails to produce a certain hormone and a very simple solution (eat hormone pills). there are many such cases where multiple causes are treated the same
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>>175345063
Thats just treating the symptom, but not actually curing the illness
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>>175345181
newsflash lad there's tons of incurable shit out there but people can still live because of treatments
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easy_quests is bugged.
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>>175330593
Anon, please.
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kill yourself
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>>175346173
Sometimes I worry about you.
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>>175346173
(retire)
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>>175344771
yes but how many mumo runs did you do before this
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tummy slaaaash!
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>>175346567
I have 20 MuMo games on that account and 3 of them were after that win, so I guess it was on the 17th attempt.
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>when you find gloves and boots early and then uncle yiff and robin complete the vestments of the pharaoh

>>175346567
He said something around 20, which is an incredibly good amount.
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>>175346740
>He said something around 20, which is an incredibly good amount
Just shows how integral it is to keep regen and bucklers banned
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>>175346938
No I mean his actual mumo run, that died in crypt.
28 tries.
Then again I'm with you with the bucklers.
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True mumo should be completely naked
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>>175347237
>>
>cast tele
>walk into corner to minimize damage taken
>XOM GIVES ME STASIS

thanks xom
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>>175347237
you joke now, but dicks did have an idea that was never implemented to reach lair completely naked even if you found aux armor
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>>175346207
this anthropomorphized creature needs to be sexually abused by homeless men until it tires of living
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>>175348026
What's with you and trying to rape animals anon
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>>175348117
i just think, people i dislike should be sexually tormented until they can't feel comfortable in their own body anymore, i just don't want them to be able to sleep at night and or rest at all, make them perpetually feel physically and mentally exhausted, this stress builds up and slowly their worldview changes, they see every day as a burden and there's no reason for living
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>>175121257
>sludge elves
>ponderous-brand chei. maybe change its interaction with spiderform to be more thematic
>scummelex or maybe just nuMelex right after scummelex
>mountain dwarves, just to spite the devs
>single-level abyss
>keep depths, remove rune-lock on vault
>>
>ash shows me that my branches will be swamp and spider

Well, time to ctrl-q
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>>175348725
weak
>>
>troll is yellow
>giant frog is yellow
is it because they are both green
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>>175349154
i love you
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how do I stop myself from faulting
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>>175349652
just relax m8. if you're calm you never fault
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>XL:10
>enter volcano
>there's a red draconian
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>>175350256
only the draconians with names are scary, if they're just regular draconians they're just big XP Piñatas
>>
Yeah, I'm not gonna go through the whole 5000 deaths thing
I don't really care anymore, we'll leave it at 48somethingsomething
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New Tomb is fucking crazy. I thought Control Undead would be enough. It's not. A lot of characters that were able to do Tomb before will have a very hard time now.
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>>175351147
>read magic mapping
>walk to the stairs
>do tomb as before
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>>175350561
nothing but disappointments
>>
>another fault
And I'm done for the day
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yummy
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>>175351538
>>
>In some ancient version you could drop a longbow in front of Mennas and he would not only pick it up and wield it, but also DROP both his sword and shield. He didn't seem to mind the fact he had no arrows.

tfw I missed good exploit
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>>175352808
hehe ;^)
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>>175352964
no body armor?
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>>175353084
draconian
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>infected start
>starts with antibiotics in the same room
I love this game and hate it at the same time
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My first 15rune, yey, it was a nice run
Heres the morgue as well https://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/rlgrobin/morgue-rlgrobin-20170429-125457.txt
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Omedetou
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>>175355717
congrats lad
>>
MuMo
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRwJmTSei6o
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>>175355717
Congrats. Getting 6 skills to max level as a Ghoul without zigging is a sight to see.
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>>175355816
Ty

>>175356639
Ty, i got a lot of xp in depths, had 3 really weird layouts in there which were just packed with all sort of monsters, had like 5 or 6 juggernauts on depths:3, maybe more not sure and one unarmed combat manual as well which was helpful
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Why are long blades so rare in crawl
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>>175356459
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>>175357208
grunt is a lame language
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>>175357208
freexp
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>>175357208
Haha nice, that isnt an ood from timer, is it?
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>>175357537
Nope
Like the D:6 deep elf from a while ago, the D:3 mocassin and the D:5 hill giant
sometimes crawl just makes really *fun* games
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>>175357665
Nice games
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FoFI, have 6 runes, considering doing Pan next. Do I go TSO or Zin? I already have a weapon of holy wrath
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>>175358189
How much invocations do you have
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>>175358224
22
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>>175358302
GO ZIN
POST SERVER/NAME SO I CAN WATCH
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>>175357537
Its probably a 0 in a vault
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>>175358189
TSO is the greatest postend game and his invo damage ability is far superior to zin's while also providing you with extra SH, dank allies, and most importantly heal on kills and rN+++ to offset the torment menace.
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Camelot = 0, sorcerers = 1
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>>175359335
who the fuck needs to worry about all that boring bullshit when you could just RECITE THE HOLY WORD OF ZIN AT YOUR ENEMIES
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>>175359516
>he's still trying to play a sorcerer
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>>175359612
recite isn't that great lad it takes multiple turns while holy flames can be spammed while hasted to kill everyone
only go zin if you have a lot of gold to tithe gold for piety then clear muts and switch to tso
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>>175359810
Actually recite triggers on every turn not just the last
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>>175360056
for real?
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>>175355717
congrats
>>
>>175355717
>>175360807
For real, 15 rune wins are no easy feat
>>
>>175360850
lol
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>>175360850
any braindead mongoloid can ge ta 15 rune win in otab crawl removed soup nowadays
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>>175360807
Ty

>>175360850
Ty
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well? what did you guys write?
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>>175360963
rude and no
>>
amy start removing your fucking traps you asshole
>>
amy start showing us your fucking asshole
>>
how do i change it so travel is instant in offline mode like it is online? (dcss)
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>>175364394
READ
THE
OPTIONS
FILE
HELP
if you need help finding it, it's called your RC file
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>>175363091

stop being bad
>>
>>175360850

ahahaha
>>
COBRA

can I get a morgue
>>
post some fun ttyrecs
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>>175360101
maybe you shouldn't talk out of your ass about things you haven't tried
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>>175368048
maybe you should suck my dick
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>>175368112
I only suck the dicks of virtuous girls with talents and purpose in their lives, not misanthropic NEETs who make excuses for all their shitty behaviors every day instead of exceeding themselves.
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I am free.

FREE!
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>>175369686
Did you splat 5000?
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>>175369776
I don't think so

Otherwise it'd show 5001

besides all I did was turn autofight_stop to 0 and otab for two hours
>>
>Shelter surrounded on all sides by wolves
>They won't go away
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>>175369686
what's that, a 0.05% winrate?
>>
>>175369886
still missing 2777 games
>>
>>175370065
make a knife spear and stab them all to death
plenty of free survival training when you butcher them
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>>175370078
0.0002
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>>175370214
Makes sense, I was going to wait until night and burn the shelter down while hauling ass.
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>>175370090
No you doofus

5 thousand (5000) is the magic number
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>>175370406
That'll just destroy the safest place you have to sleep while doing nothing about the wolves. Just be glad it's not grim howlers.
>>
welp time time to leave forever
goodbye
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>>175371003
>ponyposter leaving

bye bye chapter of this thread's great history
>>
wtf did ponyposter really win
>>
>>175371478
He is the dumb amulet of regen win
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>>175371653
he isnt
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Too bad it doesnt give exp and I have to sustain the haunt by sucking on clarity rod.
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whew
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>>175362903
Left it blank and something like "stop removing two things for every one you add"
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>People say watch good players to learn from them
>Can't keep up with what they're doing because they're mashing hotkeys faster than a korean on sc2
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>>175362903
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>>175374320
watch ttyrecs
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>+9
I didn't even know this was possible
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>>175368778
>girls
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>>175374382
fucking savage
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>>175371478
ponyposter won mumo a while ago, he's on the list as BoltzmannConstant

he continued to play mumo after winning though because getting internet praise from anonymous strangers is the only thing that gives him meaning in life
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>>175374382
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>>175375346
I forgot to write "Divinations"

oh well
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>>175371125
Would be great but will never happen.
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>>175375346
>liking ood
fuck you
>>
>>175375346
>inventory weight
>item destruction
>butchering knives
>VICTORY DANCING
You have poor taste. Literally just play old crawl.
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>>175376567
maybe you should just stop playing videogames and play real life if you don't like victory dancing

or at least a real simulation like DF
>>
This game needs thirst
Also a tiredness meter
>>
>>175377319
excuse me which game?
this is a video game general we discuss multiple games here
>>
>>175375176
Did he just luck out, how can you not repeat it in 5000 tries
>>
50,000 turncount doomclock
>>
>>175377582
which game might you be referring to?
please specify in your post
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>>175377772
Roguelike
>>
>>175377875
thank you
is it fun? would you recommend this "roguelike"?
>>
>is it fun?
no
>would you recommend
yes
>>
>>175377978
no
the graphics are terrible
>>
>>175377978
Stop talking to me.
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>>175378270
ok
>>
stop it you're not playing by the rules
>>
>>175378429
im playing optimally
>>
fk the rules
and the police
and the democrats
>>
you think this is a game you son of a bitch
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sorry
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i want to bully you gently and sometimes cross the line
>>
let's *not* become /sc2/
>>
Get back to talking about roguelikes or you're banned.
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b-bullying?!
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go on ban me i dare you fagget
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i spectated elliptic once
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>>175378805
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>>175378984
Did you learn how to be good at all roguelikes?
>>
that's nothing one time i spectated elliptic and asked him a question and he gave me attention
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>>175375346
I like the top one
bottom paragraph is shit
>>175376415
Iskenderun is the greatest wizard of all time and you will respect his work
>>175378889
fucking make me faggot
>>
we are now leaving the quoteless zone
quoteful posting is not permitted
thank you for your participation
_______________________________________
>>
>not
did you mean "now"
>>
yeah sorry
maybe so many wonderful quote free posts made me a bit dizzy and slightly lustful
>>
>>175374397
sorry anon I don't have autism and I like the visual clarity of tiles
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>>175381270
What clarity they look like shit
>>
>>175381418
I wish I had a reaction picture of a neckbeard masturbating to fontsets right now
>>
>>175381541
it depends on the game really

dcss tiles are pretty good/clear unless you're playing ^beogh and you recall an entire screenfull of orcs or something

other stuff like tome4 can be pretty bad
>>
>>175381270
>not getting what you want because you need the babby-tier version

eat your damn vegetables, anon, and you'll get ice cream later
>>
>>175377458
Well I've spectated him a few times. In the earlygame he just otabs and dies before level 5 quote a lot, but by the time he gets to level 10 or something he pulls pretty insane shit. The whole deal with using swamp drakes to kill uniques or catoblepas was really interesting. Plus I remember him saying that he kept facerolling mumos to deal with stuff so it might also just be a mood thing, I guess.
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>>175381717
maybe if you weren't such an incompetent fuck you could make vegetables taste good you lazy piece of shit
>>
Antare, stop playing merfolk you fuck I've run into a ghost from you twice now.
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do they mean us with SomethingAwful?
>>
anyone else here a virgin
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>>175384674
naw we're not that bad
>>
>>175382060
It's more efficient to just die on D2 after you've spent 2 minutes getting into dangerous situations, rather than spend 10 minutes per dlvl playing ultraconservatively just to be slowly constricted by orc priests/ogres/hill giants/lack of drops/lack of freexp.
>>
>>175384724
not since I was 0
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what
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>>175385113
don't absorb cursed jewelery you dink
>>
do chinks play roguelikes?
>>
>>175385240
absorbing cursed jewellery doesn't curse you

I got cursed by a paladin
>>
>>175384674
>Something Awful has fallen this far from grace
>>
>>175385397
china is already a roguelike irl
>>
>>175385816
Something Awful was never anything but buttblasted nerds who never stopped being angry about qt asian girls not fucking them in highschool
>>
i am a 23 year old virgin why are you asking
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someone remind me, can you use devices while confused
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>>175386418
devices can be used while confused, they just get a penalty
>>
>SHARTEEZY BARELY STRUGGLING A WIN AGAINST FUCKING BRS
>>
>>175386623
How do people post in the wrong general with the captchas and time buffer nowadays
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>>175386623
Hi /d2g/, i love you anon
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>>175387193
Anime and dota aren't roguelikes you fucking degenerates
what even happened to t diablo 2 general
>>
>>175387319
But the anon posted a dota comment.. I post about roguelikes in /d2g/ so.. And it probably died, like the game itself
>>
>>175387319
Why would a dead game have a general
>>
well how would you feel if I posted about adom in the dota general
>>
>>175387497
>>175387437
>D2
>dying
>>
>>175387539
probably wouldn't give a shit

Adom is not a roguelike anyway so it doesn't belong here but you post it anyway so no change
>>
>>175387702
it was released more than 15 years ago
>>
>>175385816
only reason it's on the list in the first place is because some of the devs have accounts there
>>
>>175384724
Hello I'm a borderline manwhore and it's just not worth it treasure your gift and work on something more rewarding like your cursive or sick skateboard tricks
>>
>>175387319
The further you get away from a new ladder season start the more ded it becomes, and the ladder is incredibly dead right now
>>
>>175389105
What about Sigma
It's gonna be released this year I hear
>>
you better stop posting about non roguelkikes ir i am nogn to start poting about non reouglikes as well and nobodyh would like that
>>
>>175389769
>>175389769
>>175389769

migrate
>>
>*Slow
Last time I fool myself into thinking this won't result in death
>>
>>175363096
How much would you pay?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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