/dfg/ Dwarf Fortress General

First for bee farming

>>175230059
Who are the farmers

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http://www.bay12games.com/robots.txt
Bastard Toady disavowed archive.org. I just wanted to check the old dev.html pages.

>one of my pump operators gets beaten to death by the fortress guard for violating a production order
>mayor currently has no production orders

did it just go away after the sentence was carried out?

>>175230180
For you

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>>175230180
who else would be fit for the job

>>175230520
A bee is fine too.

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>>175230278
Hey man, bandwidth can be a pain. I can't believe how fat my browser felt using ABP instead of uBlock origin, between the "cram thousands of CSS rules in every page" shit and actually loading shit before downloading and blocking it... fuck, I guess they are a bit more obscure but "for advanced users" or not, just turn on the defaults and you're better off than adblock+noscript.

>>175230000
>posts new thread up two posts early
>quads it
Bet you think you're slick huh?

>>175230430
It sentence was issued when it went away. If the production order still existed it wouldn't be violated yet. The "crime" occurs when the order expires unfulfilled.

Just starting df and its easier than I thought it would be. Is most the difficultly just having to look shit up? I mean its annoying but once you learn its easy to repeat ingame

I made a mod that removed all fantasy from the game and replaced it with real life stuff but now the game is too easy, what should i add/change to make the game harder?

Never in my memory has Liberal Crime Squad been a more topical game.

>>175232716
post modern themes like man vs reality

>>175232716
Have you considered adding some fantasy elements?

>>175233790
The whole point of it was to try to mod a realistic dwarf fort.
Turned out it wasnt that fun but making it was.

Should i add zombies/aliens/elder god worshipping cultists now to fill the empty void?

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>>175032573
Here we are!

>>175218223
Thanks!
>>175221202
Will do.

>>175234506
I was joking, but sure.
Aliens could be cool. Xenomorphs, predators, Mars Attacks!-style little green men, Kryptonians, the thing from The Thing... Lots to choose from. Or don't choose and make a space invaders mod. I'd try it. Go wild, fampai.

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>>175236109
>mfw anon makes dwarf fort: SS13 edition

>>175232716
Muslims

>>175235507
feel like drawing the OP's demon doing something creepy like playing chess with humans

Why does the grass have to flash in the wind. I cant play like this

>>175234506
lovecraft plz. i want cultists and elder gods

>>175238047
Thank god, I changed the tileset and the grass no longer flickers. Fuck obsidian or whatever that was

If I don't set the priority to 1 will they not work or something? They are just standing around

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>>175159883

>>175239772

nice, cowboys and dorfs

>>175232716
So it's just medieval earth, but with dwarves? are there goblin towers? What lives in the caverns? Do FB's show up?

I'm intrigued, would almost like to try it. It would also be a great base for modding off of. Definitely at least save a copy of it like that. Too many mods leave almost the entire vanilla game there, plus custom stuff.

beginner here,
just had my first winter without all my dwarf dying of thirst.
Now it is spring, the river is flowing, i wonder if there is a way to stock water in barrel in prevision?

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I can only find tetrahedrite and native gold FUCK

>>175244880
Why water? It's better and easier to make wine and beer.

>>175244880
>>175245814
If you don't know how, see http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Still

Also if you really want water it's probably better to build a well than to store water in a barrel.

>>175244880

There is currently no way to get liquids into barrels. Its probably going to be a feature soon, since you can buy blood filled barrels and stuff from trade caravans.

The only way to store up water is to build a cistern. Which basically involves digging a pit inside the fort and putting a zone over it designated as a "pit/pond" zone. dfwiki should have an article on it

Also, if your dwarves are drinking any water at all, you are playing the game wrong. Don't let your booze stocks dip below 100

>>175245970
>since you can buy blood filled barrels
Never seen this. Can you tell me what happened when you found it?

>>175247103
Not him, but caravans bring them all the time.

They also bring barrels with sweat and tears from various creatures.

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>>175247802
Dragon tears are cute, CUTE!

>>175247802
Are you telling me that elves can bring me BARRELS OF DWARVEN TEARS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>175248636
I think they only bring body liquids from animals hey have as pets.

I also think it implies slaughtering the animal.

>>175248739
/v/starsector

>>175248805
Do entities use traps in worldgen?

>>175249060
because if so than wars between dwarves and elves could have hilarious outcomes as they often do

how long do you guys let worldgen run for and whats the longest you've let it go?

i don't think i've made a world longer than 150 years

>>175248739
I need more crossovers between DF and legend of the galactic heroes
I NEED MORE

>>175200987
stippling

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Found this on Tarn's Wikipedia entry.

>>175252274
Well it doesn't.

In the linked interview, he mainly critised how mainstream games in general, and mmos in particular, have these persistent infrastrucutures for tracking progress (i.e. achievement systems, developing mmo characters as a "persona" that can never die permanently, etc).

In DF, you always start from a blank slate, everytime you gen a new world. Nothing carries over from one world to the next. The soundsense fag implemented an achievement system IIRC, but thankfully, we'll never have one in the base game.

>>175252274
He's not wrong. It's well known that mmos use methods to addict users to the grind and keep them playing the game.

>>175252539
I know, i just found it funny how that line from wikipedia implied that DF players don't have compulsive hoarding traits. Even though the game is literally about hoarding as much value as you can.

>>175248739
Dwarven spaceships would be planetoids with propulsion systems attached, so they could imagine that they were actually just inside the earth and didn't get space-sick.

>>175252774
Now that you mention it, yeah, probably.

Those cockpits, completely surrounded by glass, would probably frighten a dorf beyond belief. They'd feel completely exposed to the emptiness of space, and there would be no cover for them if the spacecraft was lit up from the outside.

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>>175252662
Whats stopping you from making a simplistic Dwarven temple fort, with its beliefs completely rooted into asceticism and making sure that you only have just enough food and water for everybody in the fort and making sure to never trade anything with anybody?

>>175238471
>>175236109

Ive been thinking about this pretty hard but i still cant decide between the two so im making a poll.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12842625
Ive started to work on both of them for the fun of it but i'll start focusing my attention on the winner so i'll have atleast one of them finished in a reasonable time.

>>175242370
Pretty much yes, i removed every fantasy aspect of the game other than the civilized races. Goblins still build towers but that can be changed easily. Stuff like cave bears still exists but its pretty empty.
I couldnt remove hardcoded stuff like vaults, FBs, demons etc but you can disable them in world generation i suppose.

I'll upload the file as soon as possible, right now i dont have access to the computer with the files.

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>>175232838
>We need another slogan!

>>175250893
Huh, that does fit the definition that popped up. Hurray for things I know but didn't know I knew!

>>175253020
Sounds like the Xeelee Nightfighter that Bolder rode in.

Was an open framework with an acceleration couch glued inside and that's it.

Beginner here,
Is there a way to change the size/share of the 3 screens?
i am talking about the detailed view screen where you move the cursor and play, the gameplay screen where you see what you can do with the keyboard, and the overview screen on the right (broader and less detailed view of the area)
Like toggle on/off the overview screen because it is huge and i do not use it much yet

>>175256683
press [tab] a couple of times.
check the wiki sometime too

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Oh wow this is a nice embark.

>>175256772
perfect thanks.
I check the wiki for all the gameplay related stuff, but for settings i prefer to ask you guys, (advise on do/do not)

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>>175257029
It's not as convenient a resource as the wiki but esc > key bindings is where you can see/change all those, they're mostly screen based (so r on one screen can mean "dig a ramp" while on another it can me "repeat this job" and so forth) except for the top couple of headings.

>>175257834
Does the icon guide take creature graphics into account?

>>175256930
Apparently the wiki says i'm pretty lucky to have a sedimentary layer next to my volcano, right off the bat mining hematite. Brought with me 7 miners, going to hollow the volcano out or something. make a sacrificial altar above the volcano

what do you guys do for fun with volcanos or magma?

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>>175241160
thanks!

>>175248739
Very nice.

>>175258359
The in game one? I don't think so, that would be enormous and depend on the graphics set, but if anyone has graphics installed and wants to check, please do so. The one I posted a compilation of is based on an upscaled version of the vanilla 640x300 tileset.

>>175258481
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Magma_piston

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>>175258561
It doesn't, now that I looked.

The militiadorfs show up with the soldier tile because they still take the soldier tile into account, but that's it.

The child shows up as an adult, for example.

How long have you people played this game?

Just started yesterday and im really enjoying myself even though i have no clue what im doing. How do i stop wildlife from harassing/stealing from me though?

>>175253484
My compulsive hoarding tendencies.

>>175258871
For about a year and a half I think, I've lost track.

>How do i stop wildlife from harassing/stealing from me
Take your stuff underground.

>>175258481
Usually a magma moat
At some point you'll notice magma is actually infinite, and goes back up to 7/7 after draining some off the reservoir, and with patience, and careful planning, you'll flood the surface, and heat your fort's walls with magmaducts between rooms

also magma minecart shotguns are a thing probably

>>175258481
magma shotgun

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>>175258871

since its buggy beginning

its come a long way from what it started out as. still i probably wont live to ever see it finished

>>175258871
Build a wall.
Out of wood

>>175259405
Upgrade your defenses, you knife-ear.
http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-2362-superdefenses

>>175259728
I thought magma didn't pressurise?

Or was it different in the past?

>>175258719
Worth a check either way!

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>helpless or hopeless?

>>175258871
Fuck. 8 or 9 years now.

>>175258871
Since the werebeast release.
so 2012 or something

>>175258871
since 2010

>>175260015
I doesn't pressurize from gravity, but pumps pressurize it. It hasn't changed.

>>175232716
diseases. you probably do not have enough diseases. also food poisoning and famine

>>175260015
Pumps+minecarts
>>175259728
>Not digging in to a mountain and building a magma shotgun 4z levels above your entrance.

>>175258871
Well damn, guess it's only been 3 years this July? When was 40.05 release, late July?

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>A vile force of darkness arrives!
>only one actual goblin, the rest are all dwarves
fug xx--DDD

>>175261710
>GREENED.COM

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>>175261850
i dont know what the fuck im doing

>>175261850
more like dorf'd

>>175261710
>>175262431
what is that Graphic set please?

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alright, i think im winning. these two dwarves just killed a whole 2 squads and 2 other dwarves of mine died.

>The main highlight this week is the post-mission report screen. When your dwarves come back, they give you a new sort of report that you can view at your leisure from the 'r'eport list. We based the report viewer more or less on the flight/sub sims we played a long time ago, where you get the exact path of your dwarves unfolding on the world map as time advances uniformly, and it gives you historical events as they come on the side, including who they are tangling with during site raids and what happened. The dwarves do seem to be engaged in some buggy jumps on to islands as short cuts, and we'll try to sort as much of that out as we can, but I'm sure this new level of visibility is going to be a cornucopia of bug-fun after the release. In any case, we're ready now to switch over to fort mode diplomacy for next month!

>>175262904
Isn't that uh, Ironhand?

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>>175262904
phoebus. i used to use some high def ascii tileset which i honestly prefer more to phoebus. but i can't be bothered changing it around

also these dwarves ended up falling into the hole and doing nothing to help the commander. how deep does a hole have to be to hurt someone that falls into it? because these guys aren't hurt at all and its 3z levels down

>>175263128
>>175263239
ok thanks a lot

On a scale from 'graphics set' to 'pure ASCII', how much bragging rights do you guys have?

>>175263656
None.

DF isn't a performance based game. It's extremely easy once you learn the basics.

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well well well what do we have here

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>>175263995
oh boy
this will be fun

>>175259586
>wanted to do this with my new fort as it's 8z to the river
>there was even alligators
>river froze in winter
no more gators :<

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so, the sworddwarf that was with my commander ended up getting a crossbow bolt through the neck and dying but managed to stay alive long enough to kill the attacker. meanwhile my commander managed to not get shot by the remaining marksdwarfs and is currently trying to eat the survivors alive because she lost her mace and actually managed to kill one.

all the while, dwarves are now leaving the fort to gather all the weapons and armour and are left watching the fight go on, not actually helping

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>>175263656
All of them.

>>175263239
Huh, been forever since I saw the phoebus dwarves, thought they were an entirely different blob of pixels.

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>>175264190
>embark
>there's a tent full of goblins
what
what's the odds on this shit

>>175264350
Check again

>there's another tent in the river

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>>175264350
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS EMBARK

>>175264504
Hah, that'll be fun.

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>>175264504
WHAT IN THE NAME OF TOADY IS THIS
AND WHY IS MY DICK SO FUCKING ERECT
also
>visitor
my sides send help

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>dwarf women
is this normal?

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>>175264190
>>175264350
>>175264504
>>175264646
You ded.

>>175264646
>current resident
Lock that door btw, or don't and let it play out.

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>>175264761
>>175264742
REMOVE GREENSKIN
Finally the 5 miner start is gonna be interesting

>>175256930
>that flat mountain plateau with ramps that can be removed to funnel invaders into whichever entrance you want them to go
>that easily accessible volcano perfect for magma shenanigans
>all those trees just asking to be chopped down
>swimming in motherfucking iron

unf. the only way that could be any more perfect would be if it had flux stone, and maybe a brook/stream/river

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>>175264931
oh

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>>175260223

>>175265125
>Surprised
>Not Surprised
>Keksplosion <--

>>175264280
You can control what dropped items are 'F'orbidden by default, like corpses and used ammunition and armor.

Between that and burro'w's, you can stop dwarves from dying like lemmings.

>>175264350
>>175264504
>>175264646
What tileset are you using? That looks comfy as hell.

>>175265762
Wanderlust

Also episode 2 soon, preparing a combat embark

>>175260223
Spicy meme

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>>175265639
i still have no clue how to use burrows. but everything worked out in the end, she ate the poor survivors alive and even managed to get a gelding blow.

she probably isn't going to survive though, because no water and no thread.

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>>175265792
>they're gone by the time I embark again
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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disregard last post about everything working out. shits fucked

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>>175266269
oh yeah, something's coming back

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>>175266748
Fuck x2

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>>175266941
all right playtime is over

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>>175267487
TIME TO DIE

>>175267487
Nice.

>>175258871
Few months.
I like it.
Adventure mode is fun, but I really need to get into Fort mode.

>>175267864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTy-VmgABp8

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>>175267870
>>175267864
Well, it only took 14 dwarves to kill this ogre

>>175268030
So you finally avoided getting... Shrek'D?

>>175268467
Yes, only the militia commander, who gained the title of High Druid, was wounded, and 1 of his 48 dogs.
Now he, and all his dogs are waiting in the field hospital to get patched up.

>>175268030
You reclaimed with 14 dwarves?

>>175269305
No, I had 2 reclaiming attempts

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>>175267487
>>175268030
This is why I come to this general.

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what does he mean by this?

>>175272071
This is the Shady Holes.

>>175258871
Shortly before the first 3D version. My first 2 or so forts were still 2D, then the new version was released. Despite numerous problems and gutted features, I think each release was a massive improvement.
I've gotten so used to the DF release cycle that I catch myself being surprised how "fast" some games release that have been in development for something like 10 years.

>carve a moat out
>build a bridge across the river
>every year the caravan hauls over the bridge and the assorted merchants decided to go through the moat and walk into the river
>invariably get half a dozen dead from drowning and a bunch of free shit
not sure how to feel but i'm worried the mountainhome's gonna blame me for this. might spend the winter mining out the z-ramps on one or both sides

>>175268030
>be howling ogre
>hanging out with my goblin pals and freak of evil (he's a pretty cool guy despite his name, always brings snacks)
>horrifying screams echo from above!
>wake up in the middle of the day to see 7 bearded hobos running around, shitting up my front lawn
>have to crawl out of my cave to chase these fuckers all over the map and break them in half
>a few weeks pass, might as well see if my cyclops pal can come over to-
>horrifying screams echo from above!
>not-this-shit-again.engraving
>a few more weeks pass, maybe those bearded little assholes will leave me alone now
>horrifying barks echo from above!
>what the actual fu-

>>175278681
>horrifying screams
>not drunken laughter
>SonAmDisappoint.statue

>>175279229
>The sound of drunken ranting surrounds you!
>press O
>Odours: Alcohol, Soot.

>>175279229
>drunken laughter
with an embark like that, I don't think they have time to take even one sip of alcohol before being chased around and messily eviscerated

if that's not scream-worthy for a dwarf, i don't know what is

>>175279427
>implying they don't travel drunk

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>>175279540

>>175279229
If I were a dwarf out in the sun, you'd definitely hear long, sustained screaming from me.

>>175279905
Ah that's the odor I forgot, Vomit.

>>175279427
As: >>175279540 notes, they were drunk on arrival, and I guarantee that while her friends were being slaughtered, Olin was over there chugging the last of the rum.

>>175279980
>terrifying retching sounds come from above!

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>nato the violence of crazes
really made me thingk

>>175282671
Gotdanm thats a fuckingj SICK deity

If you want to edit reactions in a currently existing world, you can't add anything new, can you? I just realized that advfort's magmaforge doesn't allow the creation of armor, and I'm trying to add reactions to change that.

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>>175282671
That's real fucking Nato.

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I decided to change my floor tiles slightly, by adding an engraved cross in the middle.

Now they won't look so confusing when looking at item quality and stuff like that. It looks better for the towns on the world map, as well.

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>>175283097
It made the taverns look a lot warmer.

>>175268030
That is not an ogre. It is something far more dangerous. It is a rape monster that is procedurally generated. The are usually an adventure mode exclusive monster but you can fight them in fortress mode if their lair is at your embark.

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>>175284813
Yeah, I know, I just called it by it's monster type.
Also that embark has 2 lairs next to eachother.

Maybe having a pocket world with a 1000 night monsters wasn't the brightest idea, but hey, I have 3 embarks worth of equipment on a single site now, and I run with 3008 point embarks.

>>175284943
>Pocket world
>1000 night monsters

Oh shit this guy is crazy as fuck

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>>175285052
Pic related + 1000 of evil clouds and rains, maxed all numbers on volcanism, no oceans nor poles. It rejects a fuckton of worlds on elevation grounds before actually genning, but eh.

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>>175284813
They're not rape monsters, they're just waifufags
>Tfw it's all the same thing

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>>175283742
>fancy graphics
>nonsquare tileset

my eyes

>>175285367
Are most waifufags born with a STD that causes whatever they fuck to start looking like them?

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What is the name of pic related program that allows me to see size comparison between creatures?

I want to make an expanded library, what should I embark with?

>>175286115
Dwarf portrait or something like that.

Japa's the one making it.

Don't confuse it with that other utility by that fag who never delivered.

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>>175282887

>>175284943
Can you post the legends files somewhere? I want to see that shit.

>>175287019
I'm using a race from a mod, that might be it.

>>175287118
Eh, I'm heading off to bed, so have the entire save
https://mega.nz/#!DI4hQJSS!D_Nb5IvUZMyg99lrGWAGFHYno1O3fOpPhkPav1NJX2M

>>175287150
Yeah because when I try in arena I can't do it, I'm using a modded race there but they're part of an existing civ with access to various gear so I think that's the problem.

>>175258871
Just started yesterday myself.

>>175263128
>In any case, we're ready now to switch over to fort mode diplomacy for next month!
Holy shit, update when you lazy frog

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SEND HALP

How far down can wells go?

Also, what are people's preferred world creation settings. I like to have very high savagery and number of beasts.

>>175287628
I think wells can go infinitly deep down.

It will take longer to get water, though, since the bucket will have to be lowered all the way.

Can I use magma to help pierce an aquifer? like, obsidianize it so fast water will no longer generate? It's only 5 layers thick.

>>175287585
L-lewd.

>>175288209
Why would you waste magma on an aquifer? All you need is two dwarves, a pick, and a screw pump.

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>>175287628
Shit like these: https://pastebin.com/FJ3CpnWT

>>175289102
The fuck am I even looking at?

>>175286694
The same things you would normally embark with. You can make or trade for the other things you need for a library.

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>>175285284
>>175284943
>>175270629
>>175268030
EPISODE 4
HERE WE FUCKING GO LADS
IT'S BARELLY SUMMER FOR FUCKS SAKE FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

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>>175289871
>Loli Bonetightness
o-oh my

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>>175290049
well that was lame
only 2 zombies

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>>175290049
>tfw no cute zombie waifu that I can muzzle and bone whenever I want

>>175289402
Fuck man do people never do map exports and shit from legends mode?

Pull up a world > legends > export detailed maps > sites and biomes.

It's mountains/glaciers/forests/lakes/sites/roads/tunnels.

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>>175290407
>bone
You posted the wrong picture

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>tfw your younger bro disappears for several weeks, and then they find his rotten corpse

Does DF Wanderer not work with 43.05? I can't break down armor and weapons.

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>>175287579
>you

>>175296884
>he he he

>>175296884
Was the original comic the icefrog one or was it the dwarf fortress one? Or was there an even older version?

>>175297847
The original had a cat that was supposed to do some trick or something.

The linework on the frog has similar patterns as the newly added text, so I guess the DF one is older than the other one you mentioned.

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>>175298449
Yeah the original had a cat that was supposed to roll over. I don't know how old the icefrog one is, but it's the same frog with a different colour.

>>175296882
Not sure if it's as updated as adventurecraft or uh, the other one I forget the name of.

>>175296882
it does you have to be under a Carpenter's workshop in order to do most of the stuff

>>175299195

I have the workshop set up but when it tells me to select a weapon, nothing shows up as a regent. And yes, I have the weapon at my feet or in my hands when I try

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>>175278681
>>175279229
Shit status: lost

How do you guys usually set up the entrance to you fort? I need something that would provide the best chance for my marksdwarves to pincushion whatever walks through.

>>175302391
I usually go with a watchtower. It's 2-4z high and is only accessible from inside the fort, and it's placed so invaders have to walk past it to get to the fort's entrance (and hopefully, they'll wander around there for a while when(if) I get the drawbridges up in time).

>>175263128
>We based the report viewer more or less on the flight/sub sims we played a long time ago, where you get the exact path of your dwarves unfolding on the world map as time advances uniformly, and it gives you historical events as they come on the side, including who they are tangling with during site raids and what happened
I swear to god this is gonna be half the screencaps in this general after the update

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>>175302391
Took me about two years to set up, but I walled off my main keep and made the only entrance to the outside cut off by 3 3x10 bridges, dropping down 5z onto sandstone with copper spikes. There's a tower/pillbox watching out from the outer side of the bridge that's only accessible from the fort, and under the bridge there's also firing holes for archers.

Oh and the upper river has a dropping bridge floor to flood the pit with, which then drains out into the lower river.

>>175304286
I haven't had too much experience with the newer versions, are climbing invaders a problem with your setup? Or does the moat stop them from getting close enough to jump?

>>175304581
The moat seems to stop them from trying, and if that isn't doing it, the layer of fortifications on the top does. I have to go through in winter and channel the moat out properly to stop ramps forming because my guests keep trying to take shortcuts through it and drowning themselves.

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>>175276348
just for a year now.

>>175302391
Big and open. Completely unsuitable for defense. Safe forts are boring.

>>175306356
whoops, meant for >>175258871

>>175305828
have you tried restricting it with traffic zones?

I'm not sure whether those work for guests, though.

>>175304286
You should figure out where the level is getting low and put some baffles in to slow the flow. They can only path through the water if it's not deep (5/7 I think? is too deep). If your guests can move through your moat invaders can too.

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>>175309074
3/7.

>04/27/2017
>...In any case, we're ready now to switch over to fort mode diplomacy for next month!
When did this idea come from? Stupid Toady, you promised myths and magic.

Is it possible to make a floor out of gems?
If so, how do?

>>175309415
that's the next release arc.

he isn't done with the artifacts just yet.

New to dwarf fortress here, how do I shift corpses?
A cyclops came and he got into a scrap on my stairwell and died (luckily none of my dudes died) and now his dead ass is just rotting there.
Also I've been getting miasma around my stairwell before he came, but I can't find the source.
Oh and I have a refuse pile that allows corpses.

>>175310638
Dwarves with the refuse hauling labor enabled will haul it to a refuse stockpile (not a corpse stockpile, those are for your citizens) as long as it's not forbidden and generally allowed by standing orders.

>>175311404
Though it will take literally a dick year to haul a big ass fucking cyclops corpse around.

>Be hungover
>Build Kitchen
>Build Still
>Build Hospital
>build tavern
>Build bed

Fort complete

>>175314584
Yeah, even the strongest dwarves struggle with shit that big. Better to just leaving it where died. The miasma will stop eventually and then it's just free conditioning for your dwarves.

dead thread

>>175307712
traffic zones only work for dwarves and other "permanent" residents.

if you really want to make sure people don't drown themselves in a moat or other body of water, make certain that the locations of low-water level are completely covered. at least up to the point where the water level is no longer pathable (without swimming, which doesn't exist for fort mode yet)

there was an issue with water falls where the water level would drop low enough at the edge to where creatures would attempt to walk through the 2-3 water level and get swept over the edge. a partial solution from toady was to remove ramps near the edge, but it can still happen.

simply build a bridge directly over these low-water level areas, so they travel over the bridge instead of in the river.

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>MW. Undead siege
>Dwarfs destroy the cheesemen zombies
>Their parts become friendly

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the wiki doesn't seem to mention it but what's the general guidelines for retiring an adventure in your fortress

>if you make custom-fitted armor will they take it off after you leave in your fort proper?

>what about your adventures companions,will they be added as residents or go back to their original town

>will they be able to enter into squads even if they aren't dwarfs

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>>175319071
in theory the adventurer should "behave" themselves while you're not playing them and the location they're in is not loaded; ie not get themselves killed, lose their equipped items, wander out of the city, etc
however, this is DF and anything can happen... image related.

companions however will probably leave if their form of contract with your adventurer is not being upheld. if you were asking them to rescue lost children in a goblin fortress, and then you decide to fuck off to a human village for a year or ten while you play fortress mode, then yeah they'll probably be gone when you restore your adventurer.

in theory you can petition a retired player fortress to join the guard, and then your adventurer will basically be a hired mercenary which can be assigned equipment and other things, including specially-made fitted armor, which should then be "owned" by that adventurer and kept if you decide to unretire them and then leave.

>>175319654
Also if you either started from, were a stolen unit-turned-adventurer, or as was mentioned managed to join the fortress guard you can wind up moving back there even if retired elsewhere.

What industries do you guys use workflow for? The guide kinda seems to show how to work it instead of how it works.

>>175232669
>hasn't gotten swarmed with FB's yet

>>175232669
the difficulty is entirely in not being an impatient petulent child who screams and runs out of the room if he has to play anything that doesnt have AAA graphix and mouse operated everything

as you can imagine, it's an easy game.

>>175253484
I do this. Only water, food is grown, and there's a simple temple and a library deep under the earth.

>>175324164
I've never used workflow, and I don't know why anyone would after last year's manager improvements.

>>175252539
The soundsense achievements didn't take off anyway.

>>175258871
I played a lot in 40d, so that was maybe a decade ago, but I haven't been playing constantly since then.

>>175325490
Less cancellation spam, probably.

>>175325716
They didn't even work. From what I remember I'd get the 'produced a masterwork item' achievement pretty much every session since it didn't keep track of them after you'd closed the game.

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>>175264995
>it has flux stone

>>175325716
I actually saw a pic in the last thread that had an achievement pop up in it. my exact though was "Why the fuck is that"

What is this Dark Ages 2 Im hearing about?

>>175326963
Mod, can be found on bay12

>>175329001
Yea but is it worth getting?

>>175229942
>friend buys me a copy of Rimworld
>won't shut up about how it's better, deeper and more complex than Dorf Fort
>i try it for a bit, it's ok, pretty fun but just makes me wanna play Dorf Fort more
>he won't shut up about how DF has no content, is a scam and that no graphics are for hipsters
>he is totally 120% convinced that Rimworld is more complex
How do I get him to shut up? He seems to think that because the game has ASCII for graphics that it means it's basic, nooby hipster shit.

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>>175329803
>Free
>Scam

How?

pic unrelated

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>>175329803
>scam
>no content

>>175329803
You're only as good as the company you keep

How should I use my derf fert experience on a resume? I need to pad it. How do I translate managing suicidal drunk beards into real life?

>>175331389
Just list your social skills. Accomplished Liar, Master Intimidator, Dabbling Flatterer, etc.

>>175331389
>train craft until you level up to legendary
You have a yuge selection to pick from. Drink alcohol if unhappy.

>>175331615
>>175331706

By Armok.

How do dorfs still get their ears torn off and get other facial injuries wearing a head veil and iron helms? I have to stop this

>>175333313
Head gear, including masks and veils, doesn't cover facial features. Robes, cloaks, dresses, togas, mail shirts, and leather armor do. It doesn't make any sense, but that's the way it is.

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>>175329803
>How do I get him to shut up?
tell him to read the fucking wiki pages about:

- world gen and fucking soil erosion
- dwarf beliefs /personalities /thoughts
- interaction syndromes and the cats that died from alcohol poisoning
- the randomly generated musical forms and dance forms THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY FUCKING DESIGN AS AN ADVENTURER AND THEN PLAY ... IN REAL LIFE

seriously, i doubt any other game has ever bothered to provide *ALL* of their characters with 33 personal beliefs and then 50 facets which interact with those beliefs, each one a sliding scale of -50 to +50 or a range from 0 to 100
including the useless peasant who is standing on the side of the road watching you pass by, who has had his entire life simulated from birth to (inevitable) (un)death.

even the fucking sims games stopped giving a shit about personalities at around 8-12 very vague sliders.

or instead of doing all that shit

turn the fuck around and walk away from him

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>>175333313
>>175333750
I guess I could've just posted this instead of typing it out.

>>175333874
Thanks.They're also wearing iron chainmail shirts and high quality leather robes but getting their faces and ears busted up is there any solution?

>>175333871
>interaction syndromes and the cats that died from alcohol poisoning
So tired of this being the poster feature du jour for showing the game off to normies. At least when tantrum spirals were the emergent accidental gameplay mechanic that people yammered about in interviews and articles it served to highlight some of the deeper aspects of the game. This is just "HEY GUYS, check out this WHACKY thing in this CUH-RAZY game lol".

>>175334086
Other than letting them train more until their defensive skills are up to snuff, nope. You can add a healing rate to cartilage, which will at least allow their noses and ears to heal if they're still attached, but nothing to prevent the injuries in the first place if the parts are already covered up.

>>175334372
I have never seen it put that way

>>175334372
But the cat alcohol poisoning thing is accidental too and highlights how deep the game is. I don't know how DF is shown off to the public, but you just sound whiny. Most of the game's playerbase is derived from people hearing about dumb whacky shit like boatmurdered, killer carp, MAGMA, etc.

>>175334882
*dumb whacky shit from previous versions

>>175334372
>So tired of this being the poster feature du jour for showing the game off to normies
if the normies would stop being normies, we would stop using it.

>>175329803
Just man up and tell him to keep his sour grapes to himself.

>>175329803
Point out the $30 trash heap he bought doesn't even have z levels.

>>175317919
>thank you, o valiant dwarves!
>by destroying the nefarious force holding us together, you freed us from our enslavement!
>we must go now, but please let us pay you back!
>we'll lend you our helping hands!

Wow adventurers STILL die from broken fingers? How long has this shit been going on now? 7 years? Time to shelve DF for another few years I guess.

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>>175326421
>mfw

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>>175335776

>>175336620
>Meph Tileset

Is there a way to fit individuals with certain armor/weapons

>>175337157
military uniforms on the wiki

you can definitely setup any civilian who is not a miner, a wood cutter, or a hunter to wear even the most rediculous metal plate armor "clothes" all the time. trying to set those professions with a military uniform can interfere with the "job equipment uniform"

... or just strip them down to a pair of shoes, a shirt, and pants (the minimum to prevent bad thoughts from going uncovered or without footwear)

you can even specifically assign a weapon or armor to a specific dwarf, like a named weapon or an artifact.

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I think I found a bug?

When you embark near an ocean it seems like the water is somehow teleporting into random sections of the caverns ;_; it's already flooded into both my tavern & barracks

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>>175339006
Oceans are super weird but not as weird as the random spots where a river is supposed to cross a mountain section but the mountain got eroded away (I think?) and the game still thinks there should be fucktons of water like 20 z above the ground so it fills the available space above where it thinks the ground should be, resulting in huge blocks of water appearing when you enter that embark tile on foot and surprising the ungodly fuck out of you.

>>175335245
>we
The thing is, "we", the DF community, hasn't got shit to do with it. It's the journalists who always pester Toady about it.

Why can't I learn new musical/poetic forms by reading?

>>175264995
also kaolinite

>>175341490
You used up all your lifelong luck in that embark. Rip

>>175341841
Isn't kaolinite on the surface one of the most obvious signs of a sedimentary layer?

If you have kaolinite, you're also very likely to have iron and flux.

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>Toady has simulated an accurate woman

The last time I played Dwarf Fortress was probably around 2011 or so. I remember that by playing around with one of the files, you could play 'Human Fortress' instead if you wanted to (or even 'Elf Fortress', but it wasn't recommended as you weren't allowed to cut down trees). Is this still possible with the current version?

>>175343323
You can add a couple of lines in a creature under creature_standard.txt like uh, [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE] and a couple others and do that, yeah, can also get non-dwarf residents and fort members now.

>>175342968
A bloodsucking, passive aggressive bitch?

Sounds like my ex, heyo!

>>175343476
Ah, that's good. I actually preferred playing 'Human Fortress' because there were significantly greater challlenges trying to build a 'successful' fortress over land, such as not being able to make easy chokepoints/traps and the ever present danger of flying creatures.

I once tried to create a ceiling made of glass to surround my entire fortress to stop flying creatures from getting in, but it didn't end well when one of the main supports got accidentally demolished in a building expansion, causing the entire town to get flattenned by layers of falling glass. I just wanted to do it again, except the burrow mechanics seem useful in forbidding anyone from going anywhere close to the main supports.

>>175343608
ahahaha- YES JHONNY!

>>175343608
There's nothing that implies vampirism in the pic, though.

Vampires usually have a lot of previous entity memberships, and when their "vampire mode" is active, their teeth are described as "long".

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>>175345716
>one of the first of her kind
>appearance of 89
I have one question to ask you.

>>175346132
Are you new?

Those just mean that she was born before the common era. Every dwarf in that anon's fort likely have the exact same descriptors.

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>>175331389
desu, a veteran DF player, as well as many other '''''similar''''' games, probably has a deeper multi-tasking skill
Oh, and performing well under pressure
lateral thinking too

Man, DF actually gives you many abilities

>>175346284
Well if she looks 90, was one of the originals and the current year is past about 100, you've got a fanger on your hands.

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>>175333871
updated

>>175347103
Well, it says she arrived in the 50's. I doubt he has played more than 50 years in that fort.

Can specific weapons be applied to the hammerer? Some kid took a craftsdwarf's station and made a dog bone mace covered in woolen spikes. It's perfect.

>>175329803
Tell him that Rimworld and DF are equally good games in their own right.

If he doesn't agree with you, then simply convince him to play DF for an hour, and see how he reacts it.

>>175329803
lmao dude Rimworld is literally just DF but missing 80% of what makes it cool, you need to get smarter friends

So what do you actually do in Dwarf Fortress? Just survive and expand your fort? How many hours are typically put into a single fort if you are a good player

>>175294303

>shotamused

Seriously?

>>175352005
setting up a working fort with a military, jail and all that is done pretty easily. should only take 2-3 in game years.
After that you just start doing stupid shit like colonizing hell or some crazy mega-project.

>>175351238
>>175329803
I'm transitioning into DF from Rimworld and there are certainly a few things that makes Rimworld enjoyable. Drugs, Guns, Micromanaging people and jobs, comfy lighting. the late game is kind of broken though because of lag and the fact that you eventually just set up hundreds of turrets instead of being able to have interesting gunfights. Its definitely got a long way to go

Does anyone have any generated worlds with cool histories of which they would be willing to post the save files? I want to test legends viewer but my gaming PC got wrecked by a single drop of water so now I am stuck with a PC which can not generate worlds in any reasonable amount of time.

>>175329595
It has some interesting ideas about secrets; all magicians are immune to their own spells, if possible. The crafting system is somewhat inferior to a mod called Adventurecraft but advfort counters that to a large degree.

It has more beasts roaming about, as best I can tell; semimega and megabeasts are more common. Necromancer towers can hold other kinds of wizard too; for example, there's a spiritbinder secret that allows you to summon "banshees", and a vermin secret that allows you to spit magma and resurrect the dead as things that also spit magma.

It's worth a try if you're bored with vanilla but while it's not as ridiculous as Masterwork, it does alter the game noticeably.

Welp, looks like my fort is ded. frozen twice in a row near the same wave. Bug with migrant waves maybe? Giant invasion force?

>start new fort
>lignite
>bituminous coal
>gypsum
>fire clay
just need some iron ore and this embark will be the best I've had in months

when there will be possibility to feed animals and dwarves with corpses and blood, and torture chambers, i want to capture elves and torture them and then make them see how their blood that was spilled from torture is sucked from the floor by giant grasshoppers. ofc this grasshoppers have nothing else to eat, and they can't kill elves, only stare at them, and also copulate in front of them. when elf will die from torturing i'm gonna throw stone block from 10z lvls above on him so his corpse will be smashed and blood will come out for feeding while all other elves will watch. then after few years of torturing i'll free those elves that haven't go insane (for whatever reason) and they will come back to their fortresses or whatever they was sent from and they'll tell the story about blood sucking grasshoppers. giant grasshoppers live only one year so after some time they will have love for blood in genes and then i'll make army of them. army of bloodlusting giant grasshopers. i'll make armor with spikes or maybe blades for them from adamantine so it will be very light and will allow them to jump unhindered while also easily cut enemies and their armor on the way. not to mention all elvish armies will flee in terror once they'll realise what is heading on them in this light-blue shining armors or maybe already heavily stained in blood. they will devastate enemies forces in seconds like locusts do in our world

>>175353756
n-nani??

>>175316790
its a dead game, whatdyu expect?

>>175354047
This happens every time between large updates. The moment Toady One releases the new version the whole fandom will explode like it always does. Dwarf Fortress is a niche game but it is also immortal and there will always be some interest in it.

>>175354272
who?

>>175354320
>"dead game" shitposters don't even know who toady is
really buckles your knuckles huh

>>175353756
>elf hate meme
yawn

>>175353871
well the genes maybe too hard to implement, but implement eating habit is possible i think. so we just need to fire some bolts on the enemy army and then release hungry grasshoppers

>>175354813
b-but dwarf fortress is le edgy CRAZZZZY game where you torture le elves!

all in the name of le !!SCEINCE!!, of course!

>>175354682
Do you know how much dosh Toady One get per year from donations? $80,000 is a lot of money for a dead game.

>>175354813
You must be an elf.

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What does one do with cats and dogs?

>>175355868
Bonecrafts, bolts and meat. Not bad breeding stock. Tie them to a chain outside your entrance to scare off kobolds and stop things sneaking in.

>>175355868
Pasture the cats in your food stockpiles.

They will kill pests there, and reduced pathing costs will increase your FPS.

For the dogs, put one on a leash outside your entrance, and it will spot any intruder. To make it slightly better at defending your entrance, give it war training first.

Keep the other dogs in a pasture for meat and hides.

>>175355868
You should geld the male cats with the exception of a few of them unless you want your frames per second to die. You should train the dogs for war if they are tame. If they are not tame put them on a leash in a pit and throw children in there to turn the children into killing machines.

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>breach the caverns
>mangled troglodytes skeletons everywhere

why can't i carve fortification in natural wall?

>>175357338
you need to smooth it first

>>175357395
thx. also can siege enemies fall down in holes that i have digged for simple irrigation?

>>175353334
Any suggestions? forced a migrant wave through dfhack and it spawned fine, then it stopped about a week or too earlier than the last time it froze. have a close quicksave a few days before it keeps happening, anything I should be looking for? been playing this fort for a week now, I don't want to start again.

Holy shit fuck trolls, he just comes in topples all the workshops and fuck off back into the caves. This is my second fort lads, will walls stop them ?

>>175359148
Eventually. They like to knock walls over while you're in the middle of building them, but once the build is complete, you're fine. There's also the option of cage traps.

>>175359464
Caverns were a mistake, i already had 6 troglodytes run through my fortress , luckily they didn't harm anyone, i guess they just wanted to escape.

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...only an embarrassing memory... that I've already forgotten!

>>175359746
You can seal cavern with walls, you can even build walls inside caverns with only one entrance through yours staircase, only flying creatures will be able to enter. If you want to leave a door to cavern, leave say three doors in row, once one will be broken you'll see announcement.

>>175360256
No, don't just let the doors get busted, put buildings in front that won't get destroyed but just toppled, like workshops or statues. So you can just have a hallway full of statues of trolls making submissive gestures or whatever floats your boat in front of your doorway, so when the building destroyers come to play, you'll still have ample time to react and you won't actually lose the building objects.

What to do with bin full of gems but which dwarves ignore due to a bug? Or they'll eventually will find those gems?

>>175245791
Mod ability to turn gold into weapons and arm them mace/hammer dwarves. Trade for as much iron crap as possilbe from traders - anvils, weapons, armor , whatever and melt it down.

>>175256930
Upload that world, son

>>175359464
Thanks for the help, i tried cage trarps, and i caught 5 troglodytes, what do i do with them now ?

>>175361791
Sell them to people for L O A D S A M O N E Y

>>175361791
Murder them, put them up for display in your meeting spaces, I dunno. I remember that trying to trade them didn't work out very well the last time I tried, but I may have just been doing it wrong (the traders would bring the cage but not the creature, that was fun).

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How do I get the animals to move out. I thought I made a pasture area.

>>175362263
You have to assign them to it

My dwarfs don't remove the animal corpses from the fortress, help.

>>175362575
>>175362575
oh right I see it now.

I can make alcohol out of gathered plants right? How long does it usually take to get a yield out of my crops?

>>175362765
>yes you can from some of them
>depends

Does anyone have the screencap of the guy who came back to his fort after a hiatus and discovered weird shit like a gorilla pasture and a mayor chained up

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>>175363272
i got you

>>175362765
this
>>175363061
but its also pretty fast (compared to how much dwarves eat). a rather small farm plot of plump helmets can feed a whole fortress, while also providing enough for your brewery

4 of my dwarfs got bitten by a wereass, are they wereasses now ?

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Suggestions on stopping this? If insane observe burrows I might just station him on my dumping plank and see if he'll fix himself.

>>175362263
assign animals to the pasture through the very intuitive UI of [i] for zones, hoving cursor over an [n] pasture, press [N] and scroll through a menu with up/down arrow keys and highlight the animals you want pastured there with Enter.