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AM GON.

GRR

very nice EVE ONLINE™ image

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>>175208763
Would you like to play a game?

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>get bullied out of Horde because you're miner
>ASCEE reject you because your essay isn't long enough
>Dreddit won't let you in because you don't have enough karma
>tfw stuck in BRAVE

I know EVE ships are anything but realistic but naked skin in space is too far
additionally amarri women do not wear revealing clothes

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>miner

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>>175209194

I am >>175197656 and still looking for feedback. How to make me less gankable?

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>>175201052
>>I've been down some wormholes in high-sec and seen absolutely no one there at all
>Those are mostly explored with some cloaky campers here and there.

>>175202809
>>Those are mostly explored with some cloaky campers here and there.
>this. for the love of god don't start your wormhole exploration in hisec, especially near any major trade hub. pick a quiet lowsec to venture into and then go for however long you feel like before starting to scan down entrances. any sites in hisec-connected wormholes stand a good chance of being camped by either wormhole residents or other hisec divers who want to take advantage of lazy/inept explorers who didn't get far enough away from jita before jumping in

GUYS
What happened 30 mins after you had posted this was that I was mining rare ores in a high-sec wormhole. I had checked zkillboard and there hadn't been any kills for several days.

After 5 minutes or so mining, I got jumped by a fucking Astero within scramble range that had been cloaked. But I was already aligned, and had my finger on the jump button. The Warp Scramble attempt hit me as I was warping (I think), or maybe it didn't affect me because Venture, so I got away. I don't know if he would have been able to keep me there, though, since I don't know anything about their scrambling capabilities.

f u n

>>175209501
yeah okay can you start posting the male ones now please I don't like this art

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>>175209652
I can post a dragon one if you like?

>>175209528
> I don't know if he would have been able to keep me there, though, since I don't know anything about their scrambling capabilities.
I haven't done it myself but, I heard that gas clouds don't let you cloak. so when you huff gas in a WH, stay in the middle and when an astero cunt tries to gank you, it'll decloak him

also ventures have an inhereit +2 warp resistance, so maybe you blocked the astero's scram

>>175209746
well okay first off I'd doubting that's a dragon
where are the legs and body
also, no, it doesn't
are you telling me there's no pride parade gallente ships HUH

>>175209528
>still looking for feedback
I don't know what your skills are, or how you are even scanning wormholes down with such low scan strength.

Fully fitted ventures are not worth more than 3-4 mil, don't skimp out on empty slots.

Upgrade the damage control from compact to T2, it goes from 1.5mil to 0.5mil.

>>175209834
Right. I am still considering a WCS to be practically un-unwarpable...

I looked up the thing about gas clouds and cloaks, and it seems you /can/ cloak there but just not while harvesting.

>>175211030
>I don't know what your skills are, or how you are even scanning wormholes down with such low scan strength.

I don't really know either... but... I just throw like 8 probes out there, and move them towards the red spots and press "Scan" repeatedly.

Thanks

>boosters and drugs are now legal
Heresy.

do you need the specified ISK in your wallet to set a bounty? can you withdraw bounties whenever?

>>175212892
Everyone just uses the pleb drifter boosters now because they're bad at probability

>>175213101
Yes, you pay the full amount when you set the bounty. No, you cannot withdraw it, BUT it will be returned to you after a few months automatically if the target isn't killed at all (by players) in that time.

>>175209151
Still right now part of best coalition

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>>175213101
>>175213360
>BUT it will be returned to you after a few months automatically if the target isn't killed at all (by players) in that time.

>2012?
>put 100k bounty on some fag called Daniel Audanie
>somehow he keeps racking up higher and higher bounty while losing shitloads of ships
>2017
>he still has 6b bounty on him
>still get kill notifications when he dies 5 years later

>have to write a resume and cover letter and give up your HDD and mac address info to join a corp
>then you have to pay 90% tax and make someone else rich
>forced to mine 40 hours a week

Can't I just some meme corp where everyone just hangs out like wtf

>>175213980
Working as intended. You played yourself.

>>175213360
>No, you cannot withdraw it

You should have told me that before I did, multiple times over

>>175214850
there's nothing impressive about implants and overheating

it's not even cap stable

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>>175215197
>it's not even cap stable

>>175214850
>the only things on that ship that use cap are warp scram and MWD
>isn't cap stable

Minnie ships, everyone.

>>175215778
>3 hardeners

>>175215929
Lot of good those will do in two minutes.

>>175214850
congrats you took a garbage ship and made it even worse

oneiros

how to know what systems are "quiet" or not? zkillboard, I guess. any other sites?

I want to drift alone in space

>>175219778
dotlan

i want Alice to go to heaven when she dies

>not navitas

>>175219970
cheers

>>175219778
use in-game stats with the map open
jumps in the last hour
player kills in the last hour/24 hours
pirate kills in the last...etc

>>175212612
>Right. I am still considering a WCS to be practically un-unwarpable...
To be able to warp you need at least 0 "points" of warp core stability. Ventures have a base +2 while warp disrupters gives -1 and warp scramblers give -2 while also turning off any microwarp drives in use by the scrambled ship. In order for someone to make your Venture unable to warp they would have to inflict -3 points of warp scrambling onto you, so either a warp scrambler and a warp disrupter, 2 warp scramblers, or 3 warp disrupters. While some people fit both a warp scrambler and a warp disrupter specifically to gank Ventures and warp core stabilized ships it is uncommon as it requires you to sacrifice an extra mid slot.

>tfw docked in station modifying orders to under cut buy and sell by .01 every 5 minutes while watching anime

goty

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Do you guys tip your null corp's JF pilot?

I know the name of a WH. It's listed on Ellatha, but when I search it on zkillboard I only find a corp listed. Does that mean that there are no kills in it, or... do I have the wrong number?

Externally: K162, and then X-000 (from inside the WH). Isn't it the X-000 number that I'm supposed to use?

>>175223524
Oh, nvm, I got it now. That's a classification, too

>>175223404
unless he's getting compensated by the corp, i would definitely do so

I cloaky camp faggots every day and theres jack shit you can do about it

>>175224695
Good thing I don't rat or mine for isk.

>>175224858
thats ok I'm sure one of the many retards in your corp/alliance do

>>175224695
>cloaky faggot camps my ratting spot
>move 2 systems away from it
>keep ratting
That was hard.

>>175224929
How fast do you kill a VNI?

>>175225370
depends on how fast I can bridge all these fucking recons, stratios and bombers

>needing help to kill a vni

>>175225558
I do it for my friends in corp.

It doesn't even matter if the VNI is 100mn AB fit, my hunter just has to be there long enough to point, bridge and the other fuckers rush in and get more tackle

Then we sometimes hold the VNI for a bit to see if any of his retarded friends will come to save him then we either kill him and bail or haze the other shitters

Collect salt in local then fuck off to look for another target

I'm not really AFK you faggots

>>175223524
the j-signatures are the ones which are unique. when you look at the hole itself it shows a classification, like you said. exit holes are (99.99% of the time) K-162's. entrance holes will be of basically any other type. in addition, if you look at the hole itself visually, you can get good at identifying exactly what class hole it leads to. all holes to a certain class have centers that look exactly the same, excluding shattered holes. holes to drifter systems and thera also (i believe, i have never actually seen one of either myself) have a distinct look and classification.

>>175225874
you seem mad

I hope you feel better soon

my main is a miner. considering setting up a scanning/recon ship to scout locations (possibly w-space) for my miner, and also possibly use it to loot or salvage shit. probably not relics because I don't like hacking. which one is more profitable?

should I do it on the same acc or a different one? I don't have omega yet, but maybe soon.

I'll just afk dock, nothing you can do

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>I do it for my friends in corp.

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Player-owned_starbases
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/POS_Structures

these articles are a bit confusing to me

what I'm wondering is: how fast can I build some basic place where I can dock (possibly store some ore) and/or have lots of guns that can protect me and friends - in both k/w-space? how much does the most basic platforms cost?

do I manufacture them myself from blueprints?

whats that website that gives your the prices of everything being sold in the entire game in real time

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wew this is why my first 3 mins are spent in a shuttle scouting the anoms before ratting

>>175230331
player owned starbases are sovnull bullshit. POSes are being phased out. you're looking for an astrahus, they start around 800m before fittings iirc.

>Once deployed a Citadel will take a full 24 hours to anchor.

>After the 24 hour anchor period, there will be a 15 minute window of vulnerability where the player will need to defend the Structure. If the structure will not be attacked during this 15 minute timer, it will gain 100% Armor/Shield/Hull when the timer ends. If it will be attacked while vulnerable, the structure will enter into Repairing state and the standard vulnerability mechanic will follow.

how difficult is it to live solo in a wormhole?

>being in a wormhole without ur gf

kinetic locked

>tfw an NPC mining op cucks your belt

>>175232314
huh. what about mobile depots? seems like a really comfy thing to have, especially if combined with a gsc somewhere maybe.

>>175234051
mobile depots are mini-structures you can anchor to refit. they have no docking or defensive capabilities, whereas citadels can fit ewar, bombs, missiles, and field flights of drones. if you're thinking of living somewhere you want an astrahus

>em/thermal lock

>kin/therm lock

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Anyone have any ideas of Alliances that are recruiting? My Corp finally wants to join one.

I could use some advice about this from any CEOs here too though, I doubt there are many.

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>>175230658
When the fuck do these things warp away?
There's one hogging the Drone Horde anom for the past 8 hours

How does cloaking in covert ops ships work? They just aren't detectable for a longer time after warp??

>>175235958
The covert ops cloak allows you to warp while cloaked and has no movement speed debuff. With it you can warp all over a system without being detectable. The only time you have to be decloaked while using one is going through a gate.

>>175236043
Or interacting with anything.

>>175236043
>>175236120

I see, so are you really vulnerable if you get right up to the gate before using it? Or is it just "people know you're there"

Also can you be attacked while cloaked on the other side if people are 100% sure you were.

>>175236246
The only time where you're actually semi vulnerable is after taking a gate.

>>175236445
>>175236246
or a wormhole. and unless you are nullified, you are actually fairly vulnerable to people who know what they're doing and are equipped to decloak you while you try to burn out of a bubble. a frig is generally fine, but when you're slowboating a covops cruiser out of a bubble it can get a little dicey.

>>175236246
>I see, so are you really vulnerable if you get right up to the gate before using it?
You can take gates from 2,500m away and you can still be cloaked as long as you're not within 2,000m of another object, so if you're slowboating to a gate you're pretty safe, just get between 2-2.5km away, decloak, and immediately hit jump. If the gate isn't bubbled and you're warping to it to jump you're invincible to anything but smartbombs, just make sure you drop cloak before you land out of warp as if you land while cloaked it won't jump right away, you'll approach the gate for a few seconds while it drops cloak before jumping.

After you take the gate you'll be gate cloaked and invincible for 60 seconds like any other time, and you can use your cov ops cloak as soon as you drop gate cloak, so you can typically select something, hit align, immediately hit your cloak, then hit warp when you're at 75% speed and you'll only be visible for one tick. The only way for someone to get you in that circumstance is with smartbombs or if they are able to burn to within 2km of you, decloaking you, and point your before you warp.

Now that I'm in nullsec, is exploration decent for money making?

>>175237847
Yes. Especially in Catch/Stain/Providence/Esoteria/Paragon Soul

>good luck finding sites in Provi/Stain, and good luck not getting killed by TEST/TEST pets in Catch/Esoteria/Paragon Soul

Target Painter II

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>"guys i got blops'd and lost my rattler"
>what happened?
>"when i saw the neut in local I had a panic attack and didnt know what to click or what to warp to"

>>175241563
??

>Want to do more PVPing
>End up spending most of my time ratting to grind for skill injectors to skill into PVP ships

How will I break this cycle?

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>no player owned star gates you can lock
>no way to close all wormholes
>can't prevent anyone from anchoring a citadel or pos unless you stumble upon it
What's the point of sov when you can get hotdropped by some wh corps super alts even tho you're in deep null?

>>175243185
>>175243141

>>175243185
Yeah why cant you just sit in your carriers afk for 24 hours a day and make ISK. Makes you wonder. Nullbears are amusing.

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>>175243485
>log on your krab hole alts for a few hours and make billions
>multiply your Isk with risk free trade and industry income
>have some autist roll your holes for free teleport to your region of choice
>watch anime until he points something
>log on your super or blops alt
>make even more Isk from loot
>go back to krabbing or blob some drake with 50 t3cs
>why are nullbabbies so risk averse?

someone give me the quick rundown on making money with industry

>>175245068
Get BPs, make things, sell things for profit. If you mine it then its free, never forget that.

>>175245186
a lot of blue prints seem like the materials cost more than what you produce so even if you mine it would be better to just sell that directly. Anything I see with good profit has market movement of like one item per day or something.

is the economy ded?

whats a good bp to milk right now for a poor bro :(

>>175245068
download eve isk per hour, find a market (BRAVE, Horde etc), find an ore supplier, click buttons

>>175245254
>whats a good bp to milk right now for a poor bro
If you have to ask, you cant do it.

>>175234840
How much XP in what fields? How mans are you If null and good experience in pvp: CO2, Medium FCON, medium/low TEST, total garbage: BRAVE

>>175245357
post it and let me find it ;)

>>175245390
Sure, make a public contract containing 5 plex at 1 isk and I'll tell you.

>>175245254
>whats a good bp to milk right now for a poor bro :(
Fighters

>>175245365
If FCON has higher corp standards than TEST why are they so bad?

>fedoras constans

any reason why you would not always have your buy orders be 40 jumps instead of station? what does this option even mean?

720 'Jolt' Artillery I

'Delineative' Warp Scrambler

>tfw someone bought out all of this items stock 3 days ago and repriced it from 50k to 500k
>tfw riding this wave for ez 1000% profit

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>>175248785
lel

>mfw using j5b on ceptors

>>175245032
Yeah keep complaining how WHrs have it easy while having local, intel channels, accurate map of the region, moongoo, easy access to all sorts of gas and ore,cap fleet that you pussies drop on anything that wants to fight you....

The only thing you should probably get is a notification when someone anchors shit in your sovspace. Thats about it.

Anyone from Oruze Cruise here?

Also, anyone here who's unhappy with their current corp and has the stats and free time to train into being a CEO of a large corp?

I may have a plan for something big, and I'll need as many anons as possible, from /eog/, /vg/, /v/, hell, even the mouthbreathing retards in /b/ (I guess I will be needing cannon fodder/f1 monkeys after all)

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>>175250581

>>175250719
Those fags on Leddit and Something Awful have alliances based out of those sites, why can't we?

We can't just let those fags out-fag us.

>>175250957
1, Beats the purpose of anonymite
2, We had and they died or became trash redditors

>>175248574
Maybe you don't want to pick up something 40 jumps away.

Is Xenuria in icelandic prison or doing community?

>>175248696
It is actually a good module.

>>175230658
But carriers don't appear in initial spawns.Why do you even scout.

>>175214850
>Note: Atron with neut
>Note 2: like 10M

>>175223234
or, y'know, faction scrams

wondering about venture or prospect for WH huffing. seems like the prospect is quite overkill. I guess I'll just go with a cheap and disposable Venture. then I can focus on mining, and not have to try to survive in a prospect every fucking time

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>join a WH corp
>it's full of absolutely incomprehensible jargon
>get the hang of the labeling
>don't feel like calculating and memorizing hole flipping
>nobody will just tell you what to bring and what to do
Fuck WHs. Spoiler: I can help CCP out by reporting sellers and get a PLEX for like $10.

>>175230396
LMGTFY, Eve market prices. I like eve-markets because of the history feature.

200M to the best demographic showing how much SP limits gameplay, content, and new player uptake into veterancy.

>>175255927
Venture is really easier desu
Prospect is obviously optimal but like you said Ventures are disposable

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>>>
Newbros, reminder to not click the current OP referral, as it's not linked to anybodys name, and you won't get a cent from it.
Referral yourself, a friend, or find one linked with a name.
>>>

>>175256512
yeah. I really like the concept of the Prospect though, but I have no idea what to use it for

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>>175243035
Characters used to be much less ISK/SP, but SP amount has increased, and injectors have raised the price (not to mention potentially fewer characters with large amounts of SP for trade?).. It's like $600 to get a 100M SP character through RMT prices -- $1,200 for store.

..Content that should already be available in a subscription game.

When that PL corp asks whether you're australian or danish, is it because they don't like danes?

>>175251293
>beats the purpose of anonymous
The site is still anon.

>b-but tried before
Not logical. The game's with a lot of fresh content and design now.

I need a WH corp that has good memes

>>175258161
>>175258161
>>>175251293
>The site is still anon.
Buy the game isn't, and I'm gonna get there will be faggots ruining it for everyone, finding their mains and causing trouble.

>Not logical. The game's with a lot of fresh content and design now.
Literally nothing has changed since the last time we tried.

I don't know what you expect to achieve here, if you are a good leader, making a new Corp will be easy for you.
Making this discussion pointless.

If, in the other hand you are just here to meme and expect people to rally under a Corp with no name and do all the work for you, well..
I'd say, go back to Weddit

>>175258918
3rd party advocacy: How about opsec / access being as limited or open as you find OK..

How about Alpha accounts, citadels..

It's expectable to have even just Alphas rally under a single corp (with or without a full KB), not to mention one of the top social forums. It's purely a positive proposition.

>one of the top social forums

>>175259512
Socialization is probably top 3 reasons most are here, and in game, whether they realize it or not.

>Socialization is probably top 3 reasons most are here
your retarded, stop posting

>t. alpha venture who can't use mining drones

What should I put in my drone slut? I warp away before my hobgoblins can do shit against gankers

>>175259751
It's scientific. It's an MMO, and why most aren't playing single player.

>>175259993
Hobgoblins

>>175245254
Work on material efficiency
Get your mining reprocessing skills up to 80+%
Research t2 modules

Find some that are in high demand and sell them
If you are in a nullcorp become the main distributer for most of the commonly used modules and ships (look up what fittings your buddies use for exhumers/mining barges/ratting ships/corp-approved fleet fittings for ships that idiots lose often) and sell them at a 20+% increase compared to jita prices (they will still go like hotcakes and you worry a lot less about jews undercutting you)
???
Profit

If your corp is big enough and has enough idiots you can make billions steadily

It takes time research and effort tho so just ratting in a dominix/vni is easier

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Let's say the most powerful corporation assimilates all the relevant players into their ranks after years of wars ... what then? What's gonna be the endgame besides pursuing newbies who have not yet been assimilated?

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>>175262598
The endgame will come when drama starts to brew and factions are spawned again, just to create content.

That's the beautiful thing about EVE.
People don't hold back like it's Readit, they will show their true colors and they will hate each other just like in real life.

>>175262598
Not likely because of time zones. Russians play together, et al.

You get to edit/improve any single niche of the game, from the following:

Economy
PvP
PvE

What is it, and what is the design consisting of now?

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>>175262780
What if the leaders are smart and dont create drama and drama only happens in the lower ranks because theyre dumb and only an insignificant number of player leave?

I ask because I'm working on a similar game with factions, lose everything when you die and boundless power. I'm wondering if the players would even dare try to make their own factions considering the risks unless it's one of the leaders who split up the faction and took a big chunk of the power with him.

>>175263215
this will never happen because the players want to fight each other because it's fun

>>175263160
Disable PvP because it's mean

>>175263601
but LOL it's the whole game you retard

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>eve is a pvp game

>inb4 30 posts autistic screeching about how every aspect of eve is pvp because it might somehow somewhen involve other person

>>175263160
>PvP

If you get podded, that's it, you are dead forever. And your account gets deleted.

>>175264827
If you die ingame you die in real life

>>175263215
It has literally happened many times before.
When people hate each other, no amount of intelligence can save it

The closest thing you can get for what you're talking about is everyone blueing each other when they are neighbors just to hold sov from outsiders.

After that, there is no peace.

>>175263160
I would institute regulated markets like IRL
POS and citadel markets would get to be regilated heavily by the players themselves where the owner could either tax certain luxuries more (such as boosters) or subsidize some commodities to incline a greater volume of it being traded (no tax or artificially inflated buy prices for some minerals in order to promote corp members to mine more of those, the extra payment would go out of the corp wallet and you would have only a limited ammount of money for it, so it couldnt be abused, it would dissapear when the need is met, much like irl)
It would create some interesting micro-economies and make smuggling, black markets (to avoid taxes) viable

Npc stations would tax specific things by default depending on the owning corp.
It would also mean that not everything could just accumulate in jita and everyone would be forced to travel around for specific commodities for reasonable prices

>>175265135
>pvp increases by 500%

>everyone would be forced to travel around for specific commodities for reasonable prices
biomass irl

>>175264827
>SP is now removed

>>175265207
Protip: that's an awful way to increase goods stations. I've already mentioned SP, but removing it would allow anybody to craft and sell anything anywhere.

>>175265151
>The closest thing you can get for what you're talking about is everyone blueing each other when they are neighbors just to hold sov from outsiders.

what does that mean

i dont play the game

>>175265718
Then fuck off

>>175265207
Just to expand more on the idea, imagine that your corp is preparing for a large invasion, the CEO could reward people for producing capital modules and increase the tax on things that exist in excess so industry jews couldnt keep flooding the market with items unhelpful to the cause.
>>175265349
It does suck that 90% of the people do all of their buying in one place, this would diffuse the jita population and increase traffic in high/lowsec
Making ganking more interesting and populating all other systems more evenly so carebears need to stay on their toes more.

It would be harder to accumulate all that you need, but then again that would only force you to play the game more instead of just sitting in jita flipping spreadsheets and spamming scams.

It would also make null-economies for alliances a lot more important since the convenience of JFs would be impacted as well and people who do proper hauling/trading/contracts would also have a lot more work in more diverse locations.

>>175265151
This seems to already happen. Fozzies dream of all these dinky small alliances taking their own personal sovereignty was bulks hit. Entosis is literal fucking cancer and takes even longer to do than the last system. It's even worse when you have massive indexes up. It can take over 2 hours just to rf one node assuming you don't get jammed by some faggot in a griffin that you cant do anything about.

That's how sov is defended, with cheap Griffins so you can jam the entosis ship. No one fights over these nodes. No one splits up to cover the bases. You just get everyone in a fucking Griffin go jam the defenders and dock up for another half hour while their warm up cycle goes off.

If you do take sov you're probably in some coalition of blues whether you be in delve, deklein, or the Russians out in drone lands

>hey we have this cool market place where you can buy everything so you can SAVE LOTS OF TIME
>no, let's fuck everything up for no reason
All you fucking memeeconomists with your retarded ideas should be gassed. Jita split will never ever happen no matter how hard are you trying to push your retarded utopias

>>175265789
please

>>175266469
No way

>>175266281
Hey now.

Some of use use kitsunes.

>>175266281
The only way to resist Griffins is to drop a triage apostle or a dreadnought and immediately siege when a griffin lands on grid. You'll be here way fucking longer though because your warm up cycle is over 30 minutes bring tons of extra strontium clathrates

>>175265718
It's where everyone paints their ships blue so they recognize eachother

>>175263682
it was an joke, anon

>>175223234
thanks for clearing that up for me.
my venture is now fitted with a stab I.

I hope that will suffice for most encounters

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>AdVenture
Whoa...

Remove local from null

Remove null

Is it bad manners if i go around rat sites and bookmark any that have people clearing them
Then pop back in after 15 minutes and scoop up all the wrecks? Does your typical ratter bother salvaging these? Or is it okay?

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>>175269047
>advent tour
Wow..

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>>175270316
No, but sounds pretty newbie.

Is FW the best ISK/hr that isn't scanning/RNG?

>>175270631
>tfw no tier 5
Is that better for missions also?

>>175270631
Idc if its newbie or not
In a destroyer with 7 salvagers i clear a site in a few minutes and 10+ mil in components that i make into t1 rigs

Its very profitable for no effort and skill

Do you guys know anything about these regions:
- Impass
- Heimatar
- Placid

Are they.. dangerous or... close to some good locations or what?

>>175273050
impass is dead, other 2 are lowsec busy zones

Can I make a bookmark for some other person to go to? Can I share them somehow?

I want to make a recon/scout, and provide my alts with location data. best ship for this?

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>tfw space poor

>>175273779
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=humblebrag

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting

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>There are two genders in EVE Online because that's what's hard coded into the character creator - based on the two standard genders for the human race that are recognised scientifically, male and female.

>>175275529
based as fuck devs

I need help fellow anons. Got people saying EvE is shit, no content, muh spreadsheets etc. Give me good arguments and points to show him the error of his ways.

>>175275993
have you tried telling them to kys irl wowbabby themepark shitters

I love scanning, /eog/, because it feels like you can access all those places where few others go

what's the best way to make good profit from there? hacking? relics? salvaging?

>>175276345
being able to get money from everything around where you live is nice. what's good depends on where you live, for example lowsec relic sites are trash, but mid tier combat sites dropping those deadspace medium items are good

>>175273779
I spent more than that just fitting MY HEL. Get on my level :^)

>>175276615
cool. are there any places that offer more of a technical challenge (in terms of scanning and finding it, and hacking/scanning things locally) rather than just fighting all kinds of rats?

I'd prefer to just specialize down this tech-stealth-hacker route

>>175276081

I tried that. they said it's better to ride a rolercoaster then to do homework for fun.

>>175277746
And it's better to shit in someone else's cheerios than to make yourself a bowl

>>175277180
Fit a T3C with Covert Ops Reconfiguration and Emergent Locus Analyzer and nullify it, then fit probes, T2 relic and data analyzers, and a cloak. Every other slot is up to your choice, but I recommend an MWD and cargo scanner in the mids.

After you're all fitted up, go to nullsec and just roam around looking for sites, doing every ghost, sleeper, and relic site you find.

>>175277832

They Still Think FFXIV is better, and that EvE Players just can't handle the difficulty of Raiding. I explained Incursions, and they say sounds like parking lot simulator.

>>175278478
You are arguing with children.

Give them a referral link, then gank them repeatedly.

>>175278478
Your imaginary friends are jerks.

>>175278478
>pve

pve is for fags. this game is pvp

>>175256280
this website sucks

doesn't even tell me where people are selling them from. I saw a website that listed highest and lowest of everything while also posting on what station. I can't remember the website tho.

>>175275993
It's the best space / air-submarine space physics for multiplayer games that are actually played -- Evochron though :) --, if you like to go fast, or to fly big ships.

>>175279310
eve-central.com

>>175279390
no that site looks like it was meant to do that but it shows blanks if you try to get it to show you stations. Dumb geocities tier site.

I found it

https://eve-marketdata.com

>>175278341
Awesome. I'll try this out. What would be the best beginners alpha ship to start out with down this route? brand new character

>>175277746
There aren't really any roller coaster levels of fun in MMOs right now unless you just stop thinking about comparisons. You're not going to take out citadels or bling'd damp ships with WoW.

>>175279502
Oh, that one. The API is incredibly bugged and is sometimes quite delayed. It might as well be broken and outdated by now

t. someone who tried to spreadsheet with that API

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>>175280293

not goin good with them

>>175281009
>t. poor in eve and poor afk

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>>175281009

uhh...yeah i think i give up

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>>175281468

Help...

well your first mistake was installing discord

>>175281663
why would people who have never played eve dislike it so much? they sound like they unironically play other mmos and are therefore retarded

>>175275993
There are no spreadsheets on my hecate. I undock, I pew pew, I usually come back with the ship. Faggots only want to focus on what they WANT to think eve is.

>>175281663
If my hel goes down, I'm out £500+ that I will never get back.

Conversely, if I kill someone elses super, like a nyx I helped kill last week, then THEY are ouy that much. Adds a bit of spice.

If i destroy mobile tractor units of some ratters will they know it was me?
They are in my alliance and I want to punish them for leaving those up undefended for hours

>>175282482
yes, they make killmails

>>175281663
Dig out the dominion trailer.

>>175282482
Yes, it generates a killmail.

Do it anyway.

>>175282482
Yes. MTU's generate kill mails and can show on zkillboard.

>>175282570
Thats a shame
>>175282613
I'm tempted but it would probably summon the autistic rage of the ceo if I were to do it
So maybe on my alt that noone knows exists.

Im not sure if its worth the 3-4 mil in modules though, probably not

>>175281663
>play wow
>align to mob and cast abilities on on cooldowns

it's literally all the same thing. All mmos are the same shit reee.

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>>175282824
Destroy them!

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>mfw 200 Russians can't kill my link ship

>>175282969
B-but anon
They could be yours

>>175283483
DESTROY THEM YOU LIMP DICKED MINMANIGGER

>>175282212
It's not their fault, it's CCP's. CCP uses quite an aggressive advertising model where pretty much everything is either overhyped or presented in a faulty way. One example was them doing a "class" summary on the website, and one of those classes was a Bounty Hunter with a description below which promised you to "hunt enemies for money!". Little did the new players know that bounty hunter actually means NPC ratting.

Stuff like that, specifically the faulty advertising, is a short-term gain over a long-term loss. Players get hyped for a trailer and rush to buy the game for the new release, realize that they've been scammed by the ads and proceed to never again touch the game due to how disappointed they were. The assdevastation is so severe in some cases that they go out of their way to shit on the game's reputation on any forum they post.

That's where those "people who have never played the game" come from - pretty much day one or two disappointment.

>>175283856
>faulty advertising

Yeaaaah
>here's this incredibly elaborate tutorial with moving pictures and everything
>you are an hero, now go out and never experience anything like this ever again xD

>>175283856
>le bounty hunter meme

tell me they aren't still doing this

your friends should still all kill themselves though desu

>>175283760
I'm amarr and also a girl

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> I'm amarr and also a girl

>>175284084
>your friends should still all kill themselves though desu
Wait, you actually remember the rant I wrote here a year or two ago explaining how my friends got baited with the bounty hunter meme and quit in disappointment? Woah

>>175284357
no, I remember the post you wrote half an hour ago about how you don't know how to tell your grind mmo fag friends that they are wrong. if that's not you then w/e

>>175284497
Oh, I'm not that guy

>>175284147
amarr have no girls, only sluts.

>>175284283
I even play a male capuleer so noone even suspects it.
>>175284561
No. I'm a catholic

>>175281468
>>175281663

See >>175282861 .. IDK what they're on about.

>>175284283
me too

>tfw too afraid to join a corp because people are going to ask me why I'm both a girl and amarr when I'm neither

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thinking about pimping out a shiny BS maybe 5-6bil.
Sin, Panther, or Kronos what do you think?

>>175285115
Nobody cares m8. My character is a STRONG INDEPENDENT BLACK WOMAN and I am none of those things :^)

>>175285628
Send a bil my way and I'll tell you

>>175285723
suck a fart oughta my ass you poor faggot

>>175285713
I looked up that name, and it does exist. There is also a strong independent manlet that is a member of the secret jewish society [JEW-S]

>>175285839
that escalated quickly

>>175286982
Just like my dick ejaculated quickly down your soft throat bb

>>175287936
l e w d

>>175287936
that's gay

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>mfw smartbombing an interceptor fleet

Real men fly 800mm plate

>>175289293
real men apparently have 3 minutes align

>>175289293
Quad 1600 or go home.

>800mm plate
>not fitting 2 400mm plates and saving hundreds of powergrid

>>175259371
>How about Alpha accounts, citadels..
These have existed for both the rise and fall of Moot's Last Jihad and the clusterfuck that was the most recent iteration of All-Out.

At least do your research jesus fucking christ.

>>175275529
wtf I love Falcon now

>>175291643
>please research corps that supposedly don't exist anymore

>>175293263
lurk moar newfriend

>>175293448
Or you could stop hiding behind an array of post content that isn't likely to be reflected in every future post.

Point stands.

>there are people who have a shit ton of liquid isk sitting instead of doing buy orders and playfor re sale for 2-50% gain returns

I hope you guys don't do this in real life and don't invest either

>>175294921
>I hope you guys don't do this in real life

there are very few arbitrage opportunities in real-world markets.

also, not just having money sitting is basic personal finance

>>175295610
>there are very few arbitrage opportunities in real-world

You only need one

day trading boyo ez 2% gains daily. Just go to /biz/ and invest in memes while using your own common sense. Literally free money to flip into plex and buy isk and day trade on eve to flip into RMT to trade for irl stocks into an ourouboros infinite cycle of infinite money.

I haven't worked since eve launched lel

Haha I docked up and stopped playing my videogame so I wouldn't die! I sure showed that pesky pvper!

>he undocks

twoeiros

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how to share location bookmarks? ?

Gonna try to find some good stuff out there.

Should I focus on ARCHAEOLOGY (relics) or HACKING (data modules)?

>>175297005
corp bookmarks or contracts

>>175297869
relics

>>175297869
Relics.

Hell, most people flat out refuse to do data sites because more often than not they're worth like 2 mil combined.

>>175297869
the only good data sites are ghost sites and sleeper caches. the normal ones are toilet

>be alpha
>want gallente ships
>rolled amarr
>tfw you can't transmogify

ree

>wanting gallente ships

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If I join a good faction will they give me free shit?

>>175304572
Most large alliances will have newbie packs which include stuff like free t1 ships, skillbooks, etc. Some also have ship replacement programs where if you lose a ship in a PvP fleet they'll replace it.

>No, really. Find a corp.
>You don't want to be that guy.

Whats wrong with staying in Pator Tech?

>>175297005
Drag the bookmark from youre alt-e window (people and places, I think) into your cargo or station hold. It turns into an item. trade as usual (contracts, mainly).

>>175276345
You'll generally be told relic sites are the best. I guess its true but data sites are decent cash too for a newbie. I took estimated 16m from 1 data site, which at my level is awesome. Try to find a wormhole into nullsec for the best sites (wormholes too i suppose but they seem to be more dangerous than the null regions I've explored).

>>175305627
>a wormhole into nullsec

so you can travel from Not-WH System 1 to Not-WH System 2, through a WH? I thought there was only one way into the WH, and one way out.

Are the WH-into-nullsec systems only accessible through the WH?

>>175273050
Heimatar is generally the Matar capital, as I see it. Contains Rens, currently the 4th biggest trade hub according to eve-marketdata.
Its pretty much my home region and I like it. I don't know much of the local politics though.

>>175298036
>>175305134
thanks

>>175306169
That thing doesn't include citadels. Rens and Hek are probably below Perimeter and possibly the goon HQ system too.

>>175306054
I thought so too but it turns out you can get all sorts of connections. A wormhole takes you to either 'K-Space', for 'known' (high, low and null) or wormhole space.

>>175306570
>>175306054

To clarify, you can take a highsec wormhole direct to lewsec or null, or any combination, without entering 'wormhole space'. Known space to known space connection. I've found a few highsec-highsec wormholes leading from trade hubs to trade hubs within 8 jumps, total. Made a decent trade run the first time I found that. I tried to sell the bookmarks but noone seemed interested.

Want to try cloaky camping
I assume a stratios can kill a VNI fine?

So today my exploration Probe was destroyed by a Manticore. I saw him on D-scan but inexperience told me "He probably wont attack me, that thing fires torpedos which'll be useless against a frigate". I entered the relic site, dropping some junk at 0 warp-in hoping it'll trip his cloak if he turned up. I took the risk and lost my ship. He must have had a bookmark at range. No big deal, but I don't really feel like I've learned anything. trust your instinct I guess, but no real actionable knowledge.

How can an alpha explorer counter, or at least put up a fight, against stealth bombers? Particularly the Probe which seems ill suited to combat.

I need to know a ship I can take out and gank VNIs.

But I dont want to kill the VNIs.. just kill all the small tackle thats comes to help them.

Something that can kite too, but I dont want to fly an orthrus.

>>175308028
>I entered the relic site, dropping some junk at 0 warp-in hoping it'll trip his cloak if he turned up. I took the risk and lost my ship. He must have had a bookmark at range.
You can right-click scanned sites and select warp to 10/20/30/50/70/100 KM. There's no way you can fight a stealth bomber with a t1 exploration ship, so your best bet is trying to disengage. Most stealth bombers will use warp disrupters, not scramblers, so try overheating your MWD to burn out of range. The sig boom will make you take more damage from the torps but if they already have you warp disrupted there's no other chance to get away. Alternatively you can fit warp core stabilizers or agility lows to try and resist their disrupters or warp out before they can rupt you. That or just don't go to sites when you know there's a stealth bomber in system.

>>175308028
[Probe, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Gyrostabilizer II

Relic Analyzer I
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Initiated Compact Warp Scrambler

Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
150mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I, Republic Fleet EMP S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Small Memetic Algorithm Bank II

Warrior I x2

This will take any out bomber fit ever created. Just pulse your Medium Ancillary Booster wisely (don't pulse it when you're at full).

You can't kill asteros or combat ships that aren't bombers, generally.

>>175308357
Stratios. Be the meme.

>>175308028
>no real actionable knowledge
When you know there's a cloaky faggot around, don't do sites and move on to a different system?

All of the exploration frigates are shit at combat, especially when fit for exploration. You could make a combat fit to bait faggots in stealth bombers if you really want to.

>>175274767
?

Is defensive plexing worth it?
In gallante fields it seems like defensive systems are 20% contested at most
So even though there is basically 0 risk to plexing them, the lp payout it 4 times lower than that in offensive areas
When people say FW is profitable they dont mean this, do they? 5-7k lp per site doesnt seem like much to me
But im new to this

What would be the *typical* gallente lp to isk conversion rate? So I can put my time investment into perspective

>>175306817
Sounds awesome.

Do everyone see the same (unscanned) cosmic signatures as everyone else? I don't know if that's something that's affected by some skill. Or do many people simply not give a fuck about scanning and finding wormholes?

what kind of difference does one attribute make when it comes to sp time? Shit is so unclear ree.

I figure I might as well spend this lp on the shitty +1 implants.

>>175311826
http://lpstock.ru/corp.php?corpid=1000181

>>175311941
Everyone can see the signatures. A lot of people arent interested in any kind of wormhole because they just dont know how to profit off them.

>tfw mining any kind of hi sec ore gets you 700k in a venture regardless of what the ore is

fug

>>175312567
Thanks for spoonfeeding me
1000isk per lp on average isnt half bad
7mil for 15 minutes is good for my standards

>>175313056
Alright. Seems like the dangers of wormholes is a bit exaggerated imo. I go into some in quiet lowsec systems, and I literally see no one

>>175313103
yes. then you should step out of hisec for a while and mine some rarer ores. it's not hard, or particularly dangerous.

>>175313209
They're pretty safe in my experience, just be wary of WHs with HS connectons since bored people might camp those.

>>175313415
Yes, that's exactly what happened the other day. Got attacked by an Astero. But now I'm exclusively in low/null WHs where the system activity on dotlan is low (~5 jumps per hour or less)... that's low, right

>>175258161
>>175258918
>>175259371
It's simple: we all make fresh accounts, use the default male/female body, all wear the same clothes, and name our accounts 32 character long strings of 1s and 0s

No-one, in corp or out, will be able to tell any individual member apart.

>>175314209
my nick would have quads though

>>175313110
FW missions are much better if you can run them, even lvl3s are probably 200m/hour and you can probably run them in a VNI

>>175314367
And so would 1/16th of the corp, because quads in binary isn't that difficult.

>>175311941
Aye. Everyone has a scanner overlay which shows you scannable signatures and cosmic anomalies (besides other things like landmarks and citidels). Anomalies are accessible to everyone, while signatures are only accessible via scan probes. I think anomalies are combat sites while sigs are data, relic or gas. You're safe sitting in a signature site so long as anyone else doesn't have a probe launcher or bookmark to the site.
I don't know why more people don't exploit wormholes or signatures. I guess its to do with risk, comfort zones, conditioning, etc.

From my experience wormholes are generally safe, so long as you're careful to watch d-scan and don't accidentally fly into a sleeper site. You'll be able to gauge what's dangerous on d-scan through experience. I've watched a small frigate using core scanners before and judged him no threat. Occasionally I see a miner or hauler moving about, scan them down and watch them run back to their PoS.

So I used to play this game some years back (the only spreadsheet I still have says 2012) and seem to remember buying a plex or two before quitting.
Is the game still the same shit?
As in sea of blue, fights are about who has the biggest blob, sov grind is a pain in the ass because nobody likes timers and shooting structures. Actually fun skirmishes between somewhat equal fleets never happen.

I remember spending less and less time in null and more and more time watching my hisec alt drill roids while waiting for my market flipping to happen. It may have paid for my account but it sure wasn't fun.

should I explore in a venture with a relic scanner and 16 drone dps/900 ehp?

>>175314429
I can fly a vni but my skills arent yet at a level where I can do so effectively
Ive just tried offensive plexing in my shitfit atron and I cant even kill the state frigates. They do almost no damage to me but my blasters are so short ranged i can't get close enough to damage them either. So yeah, I'm shit
I dont think that level 2 missions are worth doing considering that I still can make 40-ish million per hour while mostly afk

Getting started off it pretty brutal, I seem to suck at everything way too much to make a reasonable profit.

Ive only gotten killed once so far, and it was by some faggot in a 60 mil pirate faction frig
An atron can't really compete

>>175316095
Depends where you go and who you're with.

I mean, fuck, I'm in goons, and I flat out refuse to go on the 1000+ man blobfests, I fly with one of thier subgroups for ~50-70 on ~50-70 kind of fights.


You don't actually need to resub your account to log bck in and give shit a whirl in a t1 frigate nowadays, so give it a shot and see.

>>175316425
Fly a Tristan.

>>175316583
I have
Drones V
Drone nav III
Drone durability II
Light drone op. IV
Med drones III
Drone avionics III
Drone sharpshooting III
Drone interfacing II

Does that really justify piloting a mini droneboat?

Getting all of those to V will take forever it seems
I just want to be able to pop an injector or two

For future reference, is the comet any good? Or is a tristan the safest bet for a rookie? I was told that atron was good (mine has 90dps almost 5k eHP but optimal range 650m) and the range is really screwing me hard

>>175317165
It's a t1 frigate. You have drones V, and a flight of t1 [your choice of lights] will work fine.

The atron is more of a tackle boat, the tristan is or killing things.

The cmet is fun, but I don't knowif it's actually good yet. Mostly I just use mine for roleplaying as WOOP WOOP IT'S THE SPACE POLICE

>>175317361
Alright then
Thanks, I'll try to make a working fit and start prioritising my drone skills asap.
Navy issue maulus also seems to be a drone frig, but I dont think I've ever seen anyone use it. So it sucks I guess?

>>175317651
It's kind of a specialist tackle hull, iirc. I've debated getting one for going after stabbed faggots in fw, but I'm lazy. Stick to t1 hulls till you can afford a dozen of whatver faction boat you like.

>>175317361
comet is overpowered as fuck in aids sec

I just came back after about a year off. why does CCP hate fun. i dont know if i can make myself love this game like i used to.

You can't love it, bu you can't quit

Can't wait for the new muninn remodel, its gonna be exciting, imagine new warp transitions.

Do you get an alert (similar to when someone on your buddy list logs on/off) when someone makes a killright they have on your public?

>>175320236
yes

>>175320932
Cool, thanks.

>tfw thinking of writing a guide for my alliance

>muninn

just why. rupture is ok though

>>175321675
I have a munin that literally cant fuckin die. it's been in possibly hundreds of fleets. I dont get it. the ship itself isnt anything to write home about but it just cant die.

>>175322519
god what a garbage fit

>>175322519
>core solidifier
>with ancil reppers

sovnull vs WH war when?

>>175323905
As an insider I can tell you this much:
[Spoiler] sooner than any nullbaby expects it [/spoiler]

I'm quitting EVE. Giving out my last plex for only 1 isk.

[Plex - 1 isk]

>>175324821
lol

>>175324917
Say that to my Vanquisher and not to my face, and see what happens

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61897927/
Explain?
Wouldnt blockade runners be preferred for hisec? Cloaked warp and no worrying about bubbles

>>175325547
Yes, probably just a retard.

How many m3 is all those Geckos?

>99 geckos dead

>>175325547
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61574459/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58942468/
He seems quite good at losing shit.

>>175326273
lol
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59752738/

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On how many layers of risk aversion are you?

>>175327458
>nullified, cloaky Loki
>all lows filled with stabs

So I already have a main subcap pilot and a fully trained ice mining alt, which I use to get ISK. I live in a good region of null and I can mine mine ice for like 3h a day with a hulk with boosts and compression from a friendly rorqual, which gives me around 300m a day. I'm thinking of training an orca alt with max mining drone and boost skills, but how should I go around this? Any skill plans you can recommend me /dog/?

>be goon
>barely any content makers
>even pinged fleets are scarce as fuck lately
>join the "small gang" group
>most of the time they're just gatecamping
>20 or so in combat ships ready to jump on anything
>10-15 man fleet with similar ships is coming
>"fuck this, we're out"
I want to get out of this shithole but I dont know where to go.

>content makers

>>175328958
>>even pinged fleets are scarce as fuck lately

What definition of scarce are we going by? A few times a day seems pretty good to me.

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who /semen demon/ here?

>>175329453
>who /down's syndrome/ here?

>>175329124
I see like 5 pings or so in average during the weekdays unless shit hits the fan. Maybe its my fault for barely playing during the EU tz. I dont really find those fleets fun though since they're anchor+f1.

>>175330847
Holy fuck did you choose the wrong alliance.

>>175330847
Roam yourself, scout whs.

>>175257787

skills aren't really content. I dunno I wouldn't buy a runescape subscription and expect to get 50 in every skill.

I'm too scared to go into low sec.

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>>175331704
Join us in Dronelands, that's where half of us are

>The game warns you if you accept a distribution mission and try to undock without the cargo
The fuck is this casual bullshit?

>>175332229

Where?

>>175332438
>game warns you if the module uses to much CPU
What is this bullshit?

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its cap stable thats the latest meme right?

am I gonna make it