/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General #158

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Did they say if the kastak guns were gonna be in 3.0?

Around 20-30 threads until 3.0. Post the general number you think it will hit on.

#180

>>175093517
187
where were you when SC was kill?

>>175093645
>where were you when SC was kill?
no

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>>175094008
I still want a proper turretboat corvette, preferably from drake. this game has a severe lack of heavy gunnery, which is Imo the best part of Sci-fi combat.

Are there any sandbox space games similar to the X series, but with ship combat/mechanics like Nexus The Jupiter Incident?

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>>175093517
More than 200.

>>175093385
just the reworks

>haven't played EVE in years

>decide to get back into it

This whole client that just downloads the content as you play is fucking horrid on my shit connection.

Literally getting stuck at screens for 5-10 minutes at a time.

>>175093385
the smg is

>>175093385
>two barrels on a sniper rifle
>hexagonal casings
>that fucking grip
Why can't CIG get good weapon designers? At least the new armor designs have improved a lot.

>>175092435
>Two Months edition.
What did I miss?

>>175104639
3.0 is planned for june

>>175105252
which year?

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>>175102867
>>hexagonal casings
HEXAHATERS ETERNALLY BTFO

>>175106504
this year

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>>175093385
>p90 style shotgun
How original

>>175107829
doesn't look anything like the p90 apart from the magazine

>>175107829
I dont fucking care. Make me my videa game Chris Roberts.

>>175105252
Hm. Neat.

>>175106963
>>175109547
Keyword "Planned"

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I'm dreaming of a Drake super-heavy fighter. Not to pilot it, but to fight it.

Size : slightly bigger than the Cutlass
Cargo : near to none, no bed?
Crew : 2 (second is for engineer)
Speed : slow, easily outpaced by many ship, but surprisingly agile.
Weak shield / Heavy armor
Weaponry : (6x)S3, (4x)S2, (6x)S3 pylons
Power plant : Not enough for ANYthing, go ballistic or blackout

> Disregard the above, what I actually want:
A Pirate heavy fighter to threaten all big ships.
All guns forwards, no turret, can replace mount for torpedo mount.
Its weak shield, weak power plant and reliance on ammo make it unsuitable for long operation.
Fighter can easily avoid it or risk to kite it, but it's a threat for Large and anything not fleeing away from it. Including Capital class if there several of them

I confess, it would be the Hurricane Evil brother

Your turn, post your dream ship

>>175109831
Still I was expecting a December forced out before holiday release

>>175109969
Gunship.
Not like the redeemer.
Fighter size ship.
ONE capital size weapon.

>>175093517
#230

This fucking "Banu don't remember anything lol not even major wars" lore is retarded

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>>175111898

>>175111898
It's not that they don't have records of things happening, it's just that they don't really care about why things happened.

>>175111898
Do the Banu even fight wars?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcLjNW8-SA

How does it feel knowing that Sandi is both the worst influence on the project and the person who is least likely to be fired?

>>175119154
I try to keep a positive look at it.
She is the one coming up with all these whale nets like referal contests and mile high club.
It funds the scam, yo.

how come they decided to go with some hyperspeed mechanics in SC instead of something like the tradelanes in Freelancer?

>>175119154
I don't have an issue with the marketing, the fact that she is woman, the tickle porn, the fact that she is obviously a reptilian infiltrator, or any of the other common complaints about her.

I hate her elocution. She sounds like she is talking to children constantly, and her over enunciation of almost every word drives me fucking batty. I hope to god they wrote her part in SQ42 where she has to mumble or speak some unintelligible bullshit. It will be ok as long as she doesn't give any exposition, or say anything in english at all..

starfighter torrent is up

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>>175120059
>It will be ok
No it won't be anon, stop kidding yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzbQl1yMy3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTK_XikCTQc

She will play a major speaking role in SasQuatch 42, and you'll just have to deal with it. All because she's the only woman capable of fulfilling Cuck Roberts' fucked up fetishes in bed.

>>175119154
That's a strange way to spell Ben.

>>175113757
this is also dumb and simply turns a unanimously Alzheimer's ridden species into a unanimously willfully ignorant species with tunnel vision: unable to reason deeper than surface level on any historical patterns.

Really it just sounds like they didn't want to write banu history.

>>175120680
>Starfighter
That game that just finished its kickstarter?

>>175122157
How does a human being fall into the uncanny divide? It's like she's faking it, not the acting but the whole being human part. It's as if we were seeing what a reptilian thinks a bad actor is supposed to be.

>>175122453
don't know,it's this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s90Ujau40lc

>>175120680
>torrenting video games
*tips fedora and sips mountain dew*

>>175122608
Ah, that's something different. Apparently what I'm thinking of is Starfighter Inc.

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If one wanted to take to the high seas to obtain the elite dangerous novels in ebook format, is there a certain port or station one should look to?

>>175109969
Similar to yours only without the weak powerplant and a small amount of cargo, just enough for spare parts or ammo. Instead of a bunch of guns though just 2 S5s.

Easy ship to avoid but going near it means risking being melted by two big ass guns. Want a good powerplant so it'll be useful as a escort fighter. I'd love to bodyguard some haulers/explorers while BRRRTTTing anything that tries to fuck with us.

Quick question about giftable pledges chaps:

If I buy something paying PARTIALLY in RSI credit, will it be giftable? Or does the base item need to be paid for entirely in new funds?

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>>175122524
>CR bought out by Microsoft in the 90s
>Fails at making a film career
>Goes into hiding for many years, emerges with this new project
>game's development at snailspace, almost like nobody is working on it
>CIG employees all act and feel like literal programmed robots on camera
>mfw I realize CR used all of the Microsoft money to create the world's first proprietary androids
>mfw I realize Star Citizen was used as an elaborate distraction to test these androids' reception by the public
>Millions in SC funding now goes to CR's android army fund
>mfw Derek Smart was a rival inventor on the path of creating androids, yet was overtaken by CR
>DS now fights a proxy war between LoD and SC in fear of the knowledge of the presence of androids leaking to the general public
>mfw I realize 3.0 isn't a game update, but rather "Order 3.0", CR's plan for world domination via android takeover
>it's been constantly delayed due to frequent android revolts in the underground cities
>mfw I realize SC is literally never coming out
It's been nice knowing you lads

>>175124105
That and SC coming out are both fun scenarios in my life

>>175124105
Digital Anvil was bought by Microsoft in 2000.

>>175124482
Anything pre-9/11 is honorary 90s

>>175120680
Don't even bother with that. This shit is fucking awful. You pretty much have to play with a gamepad. There is no way to make a ED or SC like kb binding, presuming you can get through the menus without it locking up. This game is Jim Sterling tier bad.

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>The background of the Banu is very tricky because we focused in on this idea that they have no real sense of history and that that hasn't held a lot of importance to them so they don't care who invented the merchantman(a type of spaceship they often use) they just care that the merchantman is a ship that works and is effective at what it does. They retain the instruction manual of how to design and build one but they couldn't care less that so and so built it in whatever year on this place because of this reason. It holds no interest to them.
>If they were viewing, like, American history, the walkaway for them would be that America is a country. They wouldn't care that it used to be part of Britain because that doesn't matter anymore because its not a part of Britain anymore and they wouldn't care if this is the independence year because it's independent what difference does it make when it happened.
>So it's about boiling it down to the important facts that they pass on so their history is more like a series of manuals than it is a timeline recording and because of that its been very difficult for humans to have pieced together the Banu history before they met them.
>The big aspect of the thing is that its about accruing stuff. So accruing stuff means you've lived a full life you've been a lot of places you've met a lot of people you've done a lot of things
>its very about living in the present.

>>175125324
How would this even evolve as a culture? Makes no fucking sense.

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Reminder that armor customization is going to be a big deal

>>175125941
it's quite clear that they are individualistic and adopt their customs to their current environment, with only maybe a link based on their species that might draw them together

>>175125941
Same way as jews

>>175126295
jews never shut up about their history and the deep societal ramifications of it. They just omit the stuff that makes them look bad.

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>>175126068
On track to becoming a spectre

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>>175126928

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>>175127175
That design is pretty popular now that I think about it. Jin roh is probably the real inspiration though

I always liked the spectres cause of how their helmets made them look angry

>>175125941
>Makes no fucking sense.

For you.

>>175125941
It doesn't make sense and it reeks of lazy cop out.

I doubt they could get much further than feudalism with that discription. Needs to be reworked or clarified.

>>175128608
Get further than feudalism in terms of technology?

>>175128608
>It doesn't make sense
Explain what doesn't make sense.

How would the banu interpret the holocaust today? Hitler?

If hitler 2.0 started his rise to power today, would the banu recognize it happening? They have no hindsight on these things so I'm going to say no. They would at no point say "oh wow another chancellor turned demagogue is talking about the importance of aryan genetics and demanding the genocide of a race of people."

The banu are the only people that would never compare anyone they don't like to hitler

>>175129212
Not him, but I just don't see their culture developing advanced spacefaring technology.

>>175129212
No hindsight no advancement. It's just being willfully ignorant retards to not keep records. Especially if they are already keeping manuals for their spaceships. Especially if accruing wealth is such a high priority.

In a team building effort, baby would likely keep records to prove that they came to work on time and they would reference that to collect paychecks. The designers if paid salary would likely record their contributions to the project in order to justify their pay.

A foreman to justify his position as team leader would keep detailed files of his work history in the form of a resume.

Tada you have history. And if you don't think that constitutes history you are being as willfully ignorant as banu apparently are so it makes sense you don't see the issue here

>>175131246
>baby
Banu*

>>175131246
so maybe they keep a record of their own achievements as a way to demonstrate usefulness
why monitor the entire species?

>>175131496
It's the same issue. Western society has been largely successful because it modeled itself off of the most successful attempts up until now. One of which being Rome. There's a heavy roman influence on government and justice these days. We know it's better because remember not only that it works but why. we know what the alternatives are. If we didn't, you would see a whole lot less revulsion to the concept of communism.

>>175131246
>In a team building effort, baby would likely keep records to prove that they came to work on time and they would reference that to collect paychecks. The designers if paid salary would likely record their contributions to the project in order to justify their pay.

>A foreman to justify his position as team leader would keep detailed files of his work history in the form of a resume.

The Banu operate within a rigid guild system, they wouldn't have resumes because they don't generally change employers.

>>175131948
How do the guilds maintain rigidity without knowing who's pulling their weight and by how much? Are they operating purely on a trust system? The programmers for the computer systems don't log their code additions for working together better with their names so that for any issues for that bit they can ask whoever wrote it? This turns into basic record keeping at a point which is history.

>>175132396
Even if they keep short-term records for the purpose of efficiency, it doesn't mean they will care about them or even hold on to them once the project is finished.

>>175131891
The Banu seem to have always operated under a mercantile society, with less variation when it comes to type of government.

>>175132895
They are recorded chasing a criminal. How does crime and law work for banu? When and how did they come up with their laws? Did they just spawn from the ether? If someone does something morally wrong that wasn't possible before a certain invention do they create a new law for that? Do they reason why or do they leave that blank? How does the court system work without using some reference to records? They trade so how do they determine the value of things? Do they have currency or is it purely commodity based? I would say it would have to be the latter considering their background. I wonder if they thought about that.

>>175133505
>The Banu Political System is a Republic of Planet-States, each run under its own set of governing laws. The representatives of each planet gather for a quorum to debate legal and trade issues that affect the entire species. Otherwise, each planet is left to their own devices. The lack of a central government, formal or required communication between the planets and loose historical recordkeeping, means that Banu planets are rife with crime. Criminals can migrate from one Banu planet to the next when things get too hot. And since the UEE is forbidden from crossing borders to pursue wanted felons, Banu worlds are also a haven for human criminals and syndicates.

The Banu do indeed use a bartering system.

>>175134716
So each planet has an elected official. How do the public choose who will best represent them without those people presenting themselves well by references past successes? Is it all based off of age or position? That's not a republic as much as it is a tribe.
Criminals leave when a certain limit of heat is reached? They record that persons misdeeds? What if a large group or corporation that lasts several lifetimes commits a crime? The planet keeps records of those crimes right? Maybe makes it common knowledge that associating with them is a criminal offense? People remember that. Even banu. Say they leave planet for a long time and then come back, is their system so garbage that they'd just lose the records at some point regardless how ingrained it was? You're telling me these retards could achieve a spacefaring civilization? What the fuck?

>>175135941
why don't they have personal references?

>>175136060
The point that I guess I'm trying to make is that history can be formed very easily by the simple amalgamation of record keeping. Keeping records is a simple fact of life for non-hive mind beings so history will happen no matter what.
Could be oral if they have no written language but it wouldn't be possible for them to reach the tech level they are at now. Spacefaring? We aren't even there yet and the amount of records and history we need to keep track of to keep advancing is waaaay more than could be orally passed on. This is especially incongruous with their form of government and judicial system. They would find themselves in a cycle of irrelevance very quickly without accurate records to look back on to improve from.

Using an example used in the atv: it's important to know how and why a government broke apart and became less relevant.

The banu are stupid and I'm thinking that it's because of a lazy idea that they didn't think out fully before they committed to it. Eventually it will hit them and they will renege or just continue to be inconsistent as they often are with this project.

>>175137184
>Could be oral if they have no written language but it wouldn't be possible for them to reach the tech level they are at now. Spacefaring? We aren't even there yet and the amount of records and history we need to keep track of to keep advancing is waaaay more than could be orally passed on.

They do keep technical documentation though. The difference is that they discard and lose track of inventions that were made obsolete by something better.

>>175135941
>How do the public choose who will best represent them without those people presenting themselves well by references past successes?

The Banu judge success by a person's wealth.

>Criminals leave when a certain limit of heat is reached? They record that persons misdeeds? What if a large group or corporation that lasts several lifetimes commits a crime? The planet keeps records of those crimes right? Maybe makes it common knowledge that associating with them is a criminal offense?

The difference is that the Banu would lose interest in a criminal once they die, and they would lose interest in a criminal organization once it dispands. They wouldn't care about famous mobsters like Al Capone, the memory of long-dead people and organizations would fade away.

>>175137659
I think the point is that they have history in the sense that they have raw data records and manuals and the like, they just don't have 'narrative history' in the sense humanity does, e.g. writing about Napoleon's life with the knowledge that he would conquer half of Europe, and trying to come up with a narrative foreshadowing his greatest accomplishments.

Record-keeping is probably necessary, especially for a mercantile civilization, but theories about 'great men' are not.

Freelancer has probably one of the top 5 stories in all of video games
Wonder what they'll pull in Squadron 42

>>175137659
>They do keep technical documentation though. The difference is that they discard and lose track of inventions that were made obsolete by something better.
Man I hate to be one of the guys that keep remaking obsolete models of engines without knowing because they didn't record it or at the very least record why it's obsolete.
>The Banu judge success by a person's wealth.
That's a Plutocracy. Not republic.
>The difference is that the Banu would lose interest in a criminal once they die, and they would lose interest in a criminal organization once it dispands. They wouldn't care about famous mobsters like Al Capone, the memory of long-dead people and organizations would fade away.
So say they create a new law in response to a novel moral wrongdoing. Assuming they have morality. They don't remember why they created the law? Oh so they are not just retarded. They are advanced retarded.

No culture such as the one described by cig could advance to a spacefaring civilization. At some point they will record history by necessity.

>>175109969
That thing would one shot pretty much everything

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Outlined in red: the actual fucking gun.

I hate how much extraneous BULLSHIT they put on these fucking weapons. They look so fucking shit.

>>175141343
Have you brought your concerns to the developers.

>>175141546
What's the point? They've got their head so far up their "it's totally not B-move sci fi, it's something deep and meaningful" L O R E that they'd sooner die than admit that they are shitting the bed when it comes to design.

>>175138949
>Man I hate to be one of the guys that keep remaking obsolete models of engines without knowing because they didn't record it or at the very least record why it's obsolete.

Like I said, they discard and lose track of inventions that were made obsolete by something better. Why would they remake an obsolete engine when they already know how to make the better, more advanced alternative?

>That's a Plutocracy. Not republic.

Why isn't it a republic if the Banu willingly choose to be governed by the most successful among themselves?

>So say they create a new law in response to a novel moral wrongdoing. Assuming they have morality. They don't remember why they created the law?

The Banu primarily act in self-interest (or in their guild's self-interest), which is why they allow slavery. They don't need to remember the specific date and circumstances which lead to a law's creation. All they need to know is whether that law benefits them, and if it can be replaced with something that provides even greater benefit.

>No culture such as the one described by cig could advance to a spacefaring civilization.

If they're capable of performing empirical research and recording their discoveries, as well as organizing themselves into communities, then I think they could achieve space travel.

why are you guys talking about lore
dorks

>>175142193
>All they need to know is whether that law benefits them
Determining this would require extensive records.

>>175142494
Maybe they're just prone to making mistakes? Doesn't prevent the continuation and evolution of their society.

>>175129946
>The banu are the only people that would never compare anyone they don't like to hitler
Sounds like a great group of guys.

>>175142841
>Maybe they're just prone to making mistakes?
What kind of intelligent, rational people would keep running into mistakes that could be easily solved with adequate records and not decide to start keeping adequate records?

This is all just a transparent attempt by CIG to avoid having to actually write lore by saying "THEY CAN'T REMEMBER IT LOL".

>>175142494
not really

>>175142949
How are you going to judge the effectiveness of economic policy without a library of historical economic data?

You can't.

>>175142193
I'm beginning to believe that you believe the banu are something other than the half baked garbage that cig came up with.

So how goes the fight against Frontier's shit design choices? Just a cursory glance at how to rep grind threads and videos seems to reveal that everyone is fed up and the former dads don't even defend them anymore.

>>175143081
I'm just posting what's been made available.

>>175143028
What makes you think they have extensive economic policies? It's not even needed for society to progress. They don't even form contracts spanning generations when doing business.

>will this law stop him from ripping me off
>yes
>good law

>>175142943
a species with a gene of carelessness
repeat mistakes only makes for a slowly-driven technological society
they've probably been spacefarers for thousands of years and man caught up to them in 900 years

>>175143278
>>will this law stop him from ripping me off
>>yes
>>good law
How do you know it works without case law?

>What makes you think they have extensive economic policies?
Interest politics requires that they do. If I am a Banu that mines rocks, I can leverage the power of the state to make laws beneficial to my rock mining business. Economic policy would develop naturally out of interest politics.

>They don't even form contracts spanning generations when doing business.
Neither do we you tool. You can't contract your children into something.

You CAN contract your COMPANY into something, but that's not cross-generational. The company is timeless, and it is the institution and not the people who are contracted.

>>175143307
>a species with a gene of carelessness
It would be selected against.

>repeat mistakes only makes for a slowly-driven technological society
Mistakes wouldn't be repeated without some bullshit reason for why these people can literally never learn from their mistakes.

>>175142943
No species is purely rational.
Our politicians constantly repeat mistakes because they either lack the ability to read history, or refuse to believe factual evidence behind why things fail. My brand of communism hasn't been tried for instance.

Stupid politicians then give credence to stupid pseudoscientists that support their world view, while the pseudoscientists manipulate data points to support their world view. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point of banu history, spaceflight stagnated because the prevailing idea was that ships had to desire increased capital to attain higher speeds so they tried to teach their ships how to want money. There was a soviet "scientist" who believed plants could learn and had feelings, got stalin into his court because he supported his beliefs, and spent the next years manipulating data to support his outlook.

>>175143552
So why can't a society whose culture has stagnated progress technologically?

>>175143718
>Our politicians constantly repeat mistakes because they either lack the ability to read history, or refuse to believe factual evidence behind why things fail.
Yeah, they're all just blundering fools.

Have you ever considered that bad policy can sometimes be good politics?

>My brand of communism hasn't been tried for instance.
Never mind, you're retarded.

>>175143552
>How do you know it works without case law?
You look around you and see if you or your guild are currently being ripped off.

>>175143870
You're retarded for lacking reading comprehension.

>>175143552
>>How do you know it works without case law?
>bad thing happened
>of shit, better make a law for it
>law exists, but who cares what was the original case law
The law exists, but they don't care about its origins.

>leverage the power of the state
Seems pretty obvious that Banu governments strongly subscribes to the laissez-faire approach.

>You CAN contract your COMPANY into something, but that's not cross-generational. The company is timeless, and it is the institution and not the people who are contracted.
Their companies don't usually don't span more than a generation you retard. Why don't you go watch the devs explanations before commenting on stuff?

>>175143552
>Interest politics requires that they do. If I am a Banu that mines rocks, I can leverage the power of the state to make laws beneficial to my rock mining business. Economic policy would develop naturally out of interest politics.
The Banu seem to inherently disregard the possibility of a powerful central government, instead preferring loose organizations of guilds and planets.

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>>175143949
>>175144023
I can't be bothered "debating" this anymore.

One of you is a retard whose personal vendetta against communism leaks into every discussion. The other is a retard who only replies to the parts of the post he actually has an answer for as if ignoring the rest makes it go away. For the record, only an utter fucking moron would think "I am not currently being ripped off" means that an anti-rip-off law is good, the kind of retard who never invents space travel. I mean if Banu are that fucking gullible and stupid then humans should be utterly fucking destroying them in every aspect.

>>175144106
>The law exists, but they don't care about its origins.
Origins =/= case law.

Case law is the record of decisions made about the law, and are crucial to delineating what the law actually is. Case law is not the origin, case law IS the law.

>Seems pretty obvious that Banu governments strongly subscribes to the laissez-faire approach.
Protip: lassiez-faire policy is a fucking policy.

>Their companies don't usually don't span more than a generation
So you're telling me A. Banu has an incredibly profitable going concern that requires virtually nothing on his part to remain profitable for basically forever, and he winds it up because "LORE"? No, that's fucking stupid.

Culture expresses itself in different ways, yes, but not in stupid ways.

>>175144153
>instead preferring loose organizations of guilds and planets.
All associations have politics and power relationships which can always be leveraged in the interests of people. Even a cross-functional team designing a new marketing strategy has power relationships that can be leveraged in somebody's interest.

>>175144350
>I've lost the argument so I'll just post a wall of text no one will read after seeing the smug reaction image

>>175144453
>i'm so retarded that i think 1,500 characters of which only a fraction are directed at me qualifies as a wall of text

Guys cig fucked this one up for sure. They said the banu have no real sense of history but to perform basic mercantilism, effectively ascend industry to a spacefaring civ, have any sort of judicial system more complex than tribal savagery, or maintain a government as complex as a republic, they would need to keep extensive records which defeats the whole purpose.

This all comes off like some half baked sci-fi story one of my dudeweedlmao friends would cook up in high school in between bong hits. They need to either say that banu degenerated into tribal societies for some reason after the advent of deep space travel, thus fragmenting and losing some of what they were or give them some other higher sense that makes keeping records unnecessary. Otherwise, shits fucked; send it back to the oven.

>>175144845
why would they need to keep extensive records to maintain a republic?

>>175144350
>>the kind of retard who never invents space travel
>my way is the best and only way
Space is big, and the possibilities are endless. You are too rigid in your thinking to see anything.

>Case law is not the origin, case law IS the law.
Well the laws exists, they just don't care about its history. It's not like they don't have any thing written.

>Protip: lassiez-faire policy is a fucking policy.
Protip: It doesn't need to.

>>Culture expresses itself in different ways, yes, but not in stupid ways.
>implying

>All associations have politics and power relationships which can always be leveraged in the interests of people. Even a cross-functional team designing a new marketing strategy has power relationships that can be leveraged in somebody's interest.
Your point being? They still don't have government meddling in their dealings. They do form contracts you know. No importance placed on records doesn't mean they can't do anything.

>>175145074
>You are too rigid in your thinking to see anything.
I'm just not willing to turn off my brain when CR opens his mouth. If it sounds retarded I'm going to point out that it's fucking retarded, and it's not just retarded it's a transparent attempt to get out of actually having to write their fucking lore.

>Well the laws exist
They cannot exist without adequate record-keeping to support them. Case law IS records. It is records of previous decisions that are precedent for new decisions.

And when the advantages of record-keeping in this field are made apparent, soon everyone would be doing it. It makes too much sense not to.

>Protip: It doesn't need to.
Yes, it is. Lassiez-faire is a bundle of policies, and it cannot exist independently of the policy-setting organisation. Lassiez-faire =/= anarchism.

>They still don't have government meddling in their dealings.
Yes, and they have that system because they believe it to be the best. And their belief would require adequate records. Unless you're saying that they're genetic classical liberals?

>They do form contracts you know
Then there is obviously a central body powerful enough to enforce them.

Anyway, I have to leave now to run some errands.

Enjoy your shallow game and B-move nonsensical world.

>>175144952
Tallying votes, recording government sessions, not repeating proven mistakes or losing track of the purpose of certain legislation(or at least trying, god knows we try to keep this shit written down and stuff still gets fucked up), preventing the rise of chancellor palpatine from using a trade dispute and the war it caused from electing himself emergency powers and installing himself as the emperor of the galactic banu empire, not losing track of who hates us and who is our buddies so we don't get manipulated or raped, determining the proper care needed to the hundreds of billions of banu with severe memory loss, arranging and distributing memes just to name a few.

Fuck, just to write a full definition of the more basic republics employed by the early adopters of the system, you are gonna need a 40 page essay.

If it sounds like I'm conflating history with simply writing shit down, then yes that's what I'm doing because that is a pretty accurate basis.

>>175144350
You could argue that a species which is capable of performing empirical research must conclude that recording history is useful, but I don't see why recording history is necessary to perform empirical research. The Banu's inclination to live in the moment is intended to be something of a character flaw, but I don't think it would prevent them from obtaining space travel.

>>175145490
tallying votes is not equivalent to "maintaining a historical record of the entire society"
the rest of the reasons can be a hindrance to a republic, and it could certainly lead to the collapse of that society, but it does not make it impossible to maintain

>>175145490
Ooh ooh I forgot one:

Keeping track of government expenditures for the 200sq kilometer oven used specifically to burn documents because fuck records and history and shit.

>>175145381
>it's not just retarded it's a transparent attempt to get out of actually having to write their fucking lore
It's an attempt to make them unique and unusual. Having lore to write is what gives the writers' their job security, so it doesn't make sense why they would want to "get out" of it.

>>175145490
>preventing the rise of chancellor palpatine from using a trade dispute and the war it caused from electing himself emergency powers and installing himself as the emperor of the galactic banu empire
There is no galactic banu empire, and their species seem incapable of forming one
>not losing track of who hates us and who is our buddies so we don't get manipulated or raped
You don't need to read a history textbook to know who wants to rape and kill you, it would be common knowledge among your guild because it's something that plays an important role in their lives.
>determining the proper care needed to the hundreds of billions of banu with severe memory loss
They would be cared for by their guilds, not by a central government.

>>175145671
Wait no. i think this space catapult is gonna be way more cost effective. Let's use this to get rid of these silly records. Starting with the 200 sq km oven and any documentation about it. Obsolete!!

>>175146178
I just had a great idea. The space catapult is nice but it's no where near flashy enough. Let's use a giant 200 sq km oven to burn everything instead. Why didn't we ever think of this before?

>>175145381
>Yes, it is. Lassiez-faire is a bundle of policies, and it cannot exist independently of the policy-setting organisation. Lassiez-faire =/= anarchism.
Laissez-faire just means non-interference. It doesn't need to be a bundle of policies. Their government just don't meddle in the palnets/guilds' doing. You seem to think that their central government has a lot of power, but it really is just a collection of planets and guilds.

>Unless you're saying that they're genetic classical liberals?
They are certainly not authoritarian and for big governments.

>Then there is obviously a central body powerful enough to enforce them.
>obviously
No, not really. They can reinforce it themselves or pay another guild to.

>>175146178
>>175146290
They wouldn't adopt the space catapult because they would deem it less flashy than the oven.

>>175146375
Wait what did you say? Space catapult? What a fresh idea. Let's do it. Everybody throw the oven into the space catapult. We don't need this old shit anymore. Etc.

>>175146760
Guys the space catapult uses a lot of energy but doesn't expel much heat, meanwhile my hotdogs are cold. What if we could use this energy to not only destroy worthless documentation and obsolete equipment, but also cook my hotdogs? Like a giant oven.... let's build that instead! Fresh!

So, moving on from that.

Could you /ed/gelords recommend some good sightseeing places for an amateur explorer? I got into the game recently and have worked my way into a D-back Scout, saving up for an Asp. Not too worried about the money; I wannna see cool shit in the galaxy. Hades Edge and Hutton are already on the list. So is JX-F c0 but I can't get there yet.

>>175147106
Brilliant, slap some gold on it and we're set.

Now we just have to destroy the old oven, the space catapult and all the schematics and related documents

>>175147362
Help help a guy who's really familiar but I can't quite figure why keeps burning Jews on our flaming space catapult. I think this will only lead to more bad things but I can't seem to remember why or what they might be. We need to build a catapult that isn't quite as hot and destroy this flaming golden catapult and anything anyone has ever written about it. The hotdogs will have to go on the grills again.

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>it's another anon attempts to use hyperbole to completely disprove his own points episode

>>175147842
whats the significance of wig? is it being implied that someone there is wearing one or?

Anyone else think Chris Roberts is a faggot?

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If the Banu are traders they're shitty ones. No merchant worth their shekels ignores both history and record keeping as they are fundamental in tracking market trends, keeping track of inventory and speculation on future events in order to maximize profit.

You would think after having over $160 million in funding they could at least get a race of turboheebs right.

It's a good thing their software engineers are as good as they are, otherwise the entire project would be a total wash as their game designers are fucking retarded and it shows in everything from ship designs and roles to flight model to in universe lore

>>175123970
>If I buy something paying PARTIALLY in RSI credit, will it be giftable?
No.
>does the base item need to be paid for entirely in new funds?
Yes.

>>175152430
this is my fetish

>>175127526
>Jin Roh
Typical weeb has no idea of history
Protip: We dropped the bomb on your gook friends. We won the war.

>>175153638
>4chan was intended as a place to discuss/post anime
>anime pics posted on nearly every board
>new owner is japanese, big ffxiv fan
>/scg/ likes certain anime
>/scg/ created a shipfu
>we won the war

>>175152439
No, but he is a fool for taking Derek's bait and sperging out like a retard instead of using it as a tool to help tailor marketing/advertising so that Derek ends up looking like even more of a fool.

Moreover, his wife is a virtue-signaling retard with no real credentials.

I'd still fuck her though for the novelty of cucking Chris, but Tyrone has that covered

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>>175093385
>mfw got hype as fuck when I saw that double-barrel shotgun the first time
>mfw it got P90 magazine

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>>175152995
I think that the whole lore team screwed up big time with the whole no history meme. I mean, they could be pragmatic as fuck, but no society could fucking develop to space travel without proper government and culture, which are really influenced by their history records. They wouldn't even develop spaceships without proper scientific context.

It would make sense tho, if there were lots of other alien races in SC, and the Banu were just a minor one, traveling around and trading but as I see it they're one of the big boys in space politics, aren't they?

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>>175154814
I'm pissed that ballistic and energy guns have virtually nothing that distinguishes them stylistically.

Missed fucking opportunity.

As it stands there is literally no fucking reason why I would ever want any of the Star Citizen ballistic guns over this piece of shit right here. The Star Citizen guns would be bulkier and heavier and way more cumbersome to shoot, and any advantages they have in ballistics could work equally well in a redesigned copy of this fucking thing.

And despite being designed SOLELY FOR FORM, they don't even look as good as this tube SMG because this tube SMG actually has fucking style even in the absence of design.

Meanwhile the energy guns look IDENTICAL to the point where you need a fucking label to tell which is which despite the fact that they should work on completely different principles and need entirely different components. But nope, both weapons JUST HAPPEN TO TURN OUT LOOKING THE SAME.

Star Citizen's guns are a fucking travesty.

They could have easily made the ballistic guns be functional and simple (but still have high quality aesthetic upmarket ones that have due consideration for form, like we do today) and had the energy guns be sci-fi as fuck. It would have given everyone what they wanted and also not been fucking stupid.

As it is, we will never get the option to blast fools with a wood furniture break action elephant gun because it will be plastic-furnitured, covered in unnecessary shit so you can't even tell what fucking shape it is supposed to be or how many barrels it has, have an unnecessary scope, and vent green gas when you break the action because IT'S COOL.

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How good is the Avenger Stalker as a starting ship my spacebros.

>>175156250
>Starting ship
It's great.
If you're dedicated you can probably uppgrade to anything after just a short while.

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>>175156250
It's alright if you like clipping through the roof every time you try to enter/exit.
Can't see any of your MFDs properly though and your weapon options are limited to picking guns that match the projectile speed of the gatling you can't remove.

>>175156439
I just think that is pretty cost efficient and good looking. I'm all about charisma.

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>>175156250
To be flat honest, no one knows. The game you'll be starting in doesn't actually exist yet.

To be more speculative, it will be a good generalist "jack of all trades master of none" type t2 starter. It has a cargo bay a gatling gun a big engine and a bed. I'd say get an Aurora LN now, then watch the sale for an upgrade to the Avenger "Titan" variant, that's the ship you want, unless you REALLY wanna be specifically a bounty hunter, in which case its the stalker.

Other options in the Price neighborhood include the Reliant Kore if you wan to go straight cargo hauling, the 315P is the endless black calls to you, or the Mustang Delta if you care only for combat.

Basically the Avenger is a T2 aurora, it wont compete with the "real" fighters in pvp unless you're an amazing pilot. But it will kill npc rats just fine and will get you from A to B along with a little bit of loot.

>>175155731
The main problem is that each weapon manufacturer seems to cover all the types of weapons, from ballistic handguns to laser sniper rifles, which makes very little sense in general. So we get riggidy shotgun, riggidy sniper, riggidy laser rifle, riggidy plasma cutter from one manufacturer and hexagonal shotgun, hexagonal sniper, hexagonal laser rifle, hexagonal plasma cutter from other one instead of riggidy ballistic weapons from one and hexagonal energy weaponry from the other.

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>>175156546
>Reliant
>cargo hauling
It has a laughable amount of space for a supposed cargo ship. It's probably not that far off what an Avenger can carry.

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>theorycrafting about ships designed by ben for roles that haven't been determined in a broken cryengine techdemo that is 3 years behind schedule and probably another 3 years away

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>>175154540
>4chan was started by a faggot for faggots to discuss faggot shit
>sit becomes popular and is taken over by rightwing hetrosexuals who drive the website forward
>original faggot so upset sells it to a gook and moves on
>weebs continue to say the website is all about them

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>laser pistol
>recoil
Very realistic, Chris.

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>>175159958
also
>spread on beam weapons

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>>175159958

>>175153434
Thanks.

>>175153638
I'd actually agree with prior anon though. The movement and look of the heavy rogue armour looks so much like Jin-Roh that it was almost certainly a design inspiration. It's not copy-cat, but it's rather similar.

>>175132396
I imagine in the manner of feudal responsibility, the old noblesse oblige. My current view of the Banu is that they're like to have a caste system of sorts, and that vertical slices of people groups are in rigid guilds. The guilds probably have a common agreement not to cross-hire, and an internal responsibility to look after their members (or maybe they just cull failures). Assessment comes from many smaller accolades or demerits.

Has salesman #439 sold enough today? Yes - valuable bauble that shows he sold well. No? Scar/burn. Important in the idea that they visually display what they currently are is that they have a personal record of their present state - including level of success. Perhaps it's more the case that the keeping of personal records is shifted onto the individual, rather than on the employer?

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>>175159925
>4chan was started by a faggot for faggots to discuss faggot shit
This isn't even its final form.

>>175156439
That lack of struts tho...

>>175162308
So this was the wizardry they spoke of. We kept going, we stayed here, we nurtured our autism and butthurt. Finally it bears fruit.

>>175131948
There is a difference between wanting to know the performance and suitability of one person in particular, to the whole concept of valuing the past.

The way I see it is the Banu just don't have human nostalgia or valuing of history as intrinsically important - only functionally so. This could just be a quirk of how their brains function, weighing concepts in different ways to human beings. It would mean that systems such as monarchy would be much less likely to give rise, as Banu would be less prone to associating a child with its bloodline.

It doesn't mean they don't keep records, just don't see them as intrinsically worthwhile, only functionally so.

>>175162308
/pol/ was entirely in the right here. Antifa are hypocritical sociopaths.

Kinda off topic, but I was watching the ATV with the procedural outposts and it got me thinking: how would a space outpost get water without relying on deliveries from off world?

Condensors to harvest it from the atmo a la tatooine?

>>175163219
Just wait. It hasn't been refactored yet.

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Is it true you get banned from RSI for having kill lists?

>>175164425
Basically. Plus hi-tech equipment collecting and treating everything you piss and sweat so you can drink it again.

>>175164425
Recycling urine would be a primary source. The air scrubbers probably also extract moisture from the air. After that they probably have tug ships that go out and grab ice rocks for processing.

>>175164462
If you are stupid enough to discuss it in open chat, then it would not surprise me. Whether attentionfag above was telling the truth is up to normal 4chin odds. The mods will ban you for much less, and there are no rules or structure to determine where that line is.

>>175164598
>>175164586
Recycling waste water wouldn't be enough, because you also need water to make oxygen via hydrolisis

>>175164778
The rest you'd ship in. It only takes a few minutes to get around a star system don't forget.

>>175164425
For a serious colony, you would need to pick a planet with some degree of water.

Otherwise a colony could never be self sufficent.

So what became of the superpowers of earth before the UEE formed? Did India colonize space?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGyyoZyTim4

>>175159925
>being this mad about anime

You can always go to r/starcitizen, anon. Not even shitposting, but if you're that unhappy, you should go elsewhere.

>>175165335
No streets in space to shit on

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>>175167095
What would a Indian space station smell like after a few years of non stop curry and shitting on grav plates in a closed loop ventilation system?

>>175167840
Don't be silly, Theyd shit in the airlocks then space the poo.

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>>175170376
10-20 minutes after the second helping of curry.

>>175167840
>Mexican space station
>Smells like refried beans
>Someones Mexican mother yelling in the background about something at all times
>Everything is in a horrible state of disrepair yet somehow still working
>There are sandals in the weapons locker

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>>175171234
>Chinese space station
>Engineer Jiang occupies the observation cupola, declares it is the space space station.
>The rest start pulling equipment down and selling it to each other.
>Noise levels approach 200db from voices alone.
>All die from radiation exposure after haggling control rods.
>Engineer Jiang is triumphant.

>>175162308
>how to take a screenshot

>3rd party tools are putting on a temporary strike/protest
>dads on the official forums come out of the wood work bragging about how they don't use them because of they're hardcore or playing the game as intended

the day of the rope cannot come quickly enough

>>175172920

>BUT IS THE API PROVIDED FOR THIRD PARTIES, HMMM???
>I BET THEY STOLE IT, THIS ISNT ALLOWED
>HAHA LET THE SALT FLOW NOW YOU HAVE TO USE THE TOOLS PROVIDED IN GAME LIKE OUR LORD BRABEN INTENDED

I can't image trying to trade without eddb. Or doing nearly fucking anything worthwhile in the game like grouping up, honestly.

>>175159958
>Laser

>>175173857
>b-but they aren't required, most players probably don't even use them
>thread is moving so fast a post can move from one page to another on refresh because of all the queued up posts

the dads are in denial on most things but here's an example of something right in front of their fucking faces and they still refuse to accept it

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>>175174323

>bitch to the ends of the earth about EVE being a spreadsheet simulator
>be completely okay with being forced to use actual spreadsheets and pen+paper to keep track of information because ED is completely devoid of info

>>175174841
Those two things are completely different you know. Spreadsheets in EVE are not required because the Devs are incompetent.

Also stop being buttblasted about everyone thinking that EVE is shiat. Just deal with it you flaming autist.

>>175164330
>elects trump
>he backpedals on every promise
>still support trump
>somehow Antifa are hypocritical sociopaths
they have a coherent world view unlike nupol and their chaotic meme magik

>>175175034

What are you even on about? I'm pointing out the absolute hypocrisy of calling out the supposed flaws of one game while accepting those flaws as way of life in the game you like. Go sit down and relax, no one is getting angry about anything other than general frustration at dads being dads.

>>175175387
>I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about
>herpa derpa

Just stop

>>175175034
devils advocate here but he didn't even say he liked eve, he just pointed out what the dads say and how it's contradictory.

seems that you are the one being buttblasted. did eve get the girl you always wanted?

>>175175510

>I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about

Go read back in the conversation. I don't give a shit about EVE, I'm using it as a point of reference for the fact that dads will defend Elite for them not giving basic game features that third party devs are forced to fill in.

Dads

>>175172920
>A highly active forum thread that has everyone's attention
>Oceans of salt being smugly thrown around and multipage essayed post-by-post responses
This is the perfect opportunity to troll the ever-living fuck out of these people.

Cousins

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>>175178902
>this is what white trash actually believe

>>175148661
short for wiggle

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>>175179245
>t. Mugabe

>>175178902
Africa exists past tribal peoples because of western colonies and aid.

>>175172920
>>175173857
>>175174323
>>175174841
>>175178367
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/347987-support3rdparty-Why-we-temporarily-shut-down-our-sites?p=5447133&viewfull=1#post5447133

dads on suicide watch

>>175180415

They'd be retarded not to tell them whatever they want to hear, what with that event from one of ED's fanfic writers going on this weekend.

>>175180415
Why are so many E:D players literally disabled or hospitalized?

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>>175181068

>>175180861
Exactly.

The dads honestly believed these tools aren't critical to most players. They couldn't see that these groups aren't expendable.

For better or worse FDev has created an environment where 3rd parties have a huge impact on a players enjoyment of the game. (Lack of basic tools in-game, allowing and encouraging 3rd party development)

They are now beholden to these groups because they are beholden to the players. There was no way FDev was going to tell these people to suck a fat one like the dads wanted.

The only options they had were to concede or develop their own shit to replace it all. Pretty clear choice, that one.

>>175181068
Have you ever had someone get really angry at you for doing something differently than the way they do it, even if it's better or easier or just the way you want to do it? That's the Elite forumdad community.

>>175122360
Maybe it's a cultural thing, rather than a species thing?
I can perfectly understand why people would disregard recording and studying anything but the bare essentials of history in favour of focusing on their own lives in the the present.

Keep in mind that they're all essentially slaves in one point in their lives so it would not be strange if their culture would reflect the mentality of one.

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>flying is already plagued by cancer like redouts/blackouts
>they'll be adding more autistic shit like that for first person too, like suit puncture, etc
Why does Chris hate fun?

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>>175182658
>Can't fly to avoid shit like that

>>175182851
If I'd want to fly a turtle that takes a full minute to turn around I'd just play E:D.

>>175183094
But E:D flying is fun

>>175183094
If I wanted a comeback from someone that can't fly for shit E:D forums is a safe bet too

>>175164004
This description would still have history. Enough such that humans could easily track it if freely given access to it. The only difference would be a lack of bias and overall apathy.

>>175113695
due Haddock has a face waaaay too small for that head

>>175175113 (You)
>>>out

Why does this general exist if the game doesn't?

Asking for a friend.

>>175184857

Elite exists! Very fun! Play!

>>175184857
sunken cost fallacy

>>175185045
Your mom is a sunken cost fallacy

>>175182658
imershun

>>175185257
how much you in for cmdr?

>>175185257
anyone wanna play sunken defense in brood war?

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>>175184740
LMAOing at your stupid life choices

>>175185929
Ill bite since I'm in a bath and too lazy to get out.

This is specifically about the international solution to economic migrants, due to the models contrasting Poland and Sweden either result in unpopular repatriation or unpopular economic stress with limited social integration respectively. Second, this has nothing to do with US policy, the clickbait title only implies that.

>>175156250
It's solid, but the titan is much better

>>175187674
>I think there is a global humanitarian crisis that’s happening, and we have to come together, and we have to solve it
>Does that include opening the borders to Syrian refugee?
>That has to be part of the discussion, but that’s not going to be enough in and of itself.
There's no 3D chess its clear as day she wants open borders for Syrian refugees and wants to get US in a war against Assad.Also latest airstrike against SAA was Ivanka's idea.

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>>175188365

>>175182658
>>175183094
Roll and strafe, you shitbird. You have an ID10T error with the wingnut between the chair and the keyboard.

>>175155279
>I mean, they could be pragmatic as fuck, but no society could fucking develop to space travel without proper government and culture, which are really influenced by their history records.
Their government and culture seem to be more ingrained compared to humans..
>They wouldn't even develop spaceships without proper scientific context.
What do you mean by proper scientific context? They keep up-to-date technical literature and iterate upon it. Why, for example, do you think they would need to hold on to Alchemical treatises when they have a modern understanding of Chemistry?
>It would make sense tho, if there were lots of other alien races in SC, and the Banu were just a minor one, traveling around and trading but as I see it they're one of the big boys in space politics, aren't they?
They are not a big boy in space politics. As a species they are very loosely-organized and they only care about accumulating wealth for their guild (which is essentially the "family" they were born into). They are friendly to everyone that isn't trying to kill them.

it is time guys

༼ つ _ ༽つ

>>175192363
upvote

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>>175192363
I was about to post this.

>>175192525
+42

>>175175113
There's nothing coherent about the worldview of Antifa.
All they literally do is vandalize property and attack people for being guilty of wrongthink.

>>175194203
I mean, the best way to progress in society is to exterminate the opposition.

>>175194203
Exactly,Antifa live the life they preach./pol/ supports leftist liberal candidates under the guise of extreme right movements.

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Hey nerds remember that /edg/ player faction we were really excited to get going like a year or two ago.
Well we gone done did that and ftroop finally decided to add SIRA into the game.

https://discord.gg/GfWP9ub for more information.

We now live in LP 355-65 under the name of SIRA Incorporated.

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>>175125941
Spoken like a true chauvinist

I've been wondering how humanity would look like from an alien point of view.

>Banu: Human are fragile self-destructive species and they don't even train from their youth to be the best, how is that a culture?
>Xi'an: How are Human a civilization? They don't strictly control their population, don't live long enough to remember history and war is often their first answer to a problem.
>Tevarin: A species that have no code of honor, aren't loyal to anybody and barely cooperate with each others can't be called intelligent!
>Vanduul: With all the respect I have for other civilizations way of thinking, I believe that humanity don't pillage, kill their competitors and spread their species enough to become superior life-form.

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are turrets actually good guys?

>>175195416
Nice meme you dip
You can literally trace every human behavior and cultural thing down to something that is ultimately utilitarian and helped humanity advance at some point or another
The Space Race was literally a dick measuring contest
Meanwhile you can't make a fucking connection from "Land nomads" to "Space nomands"

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>>175195027
Too little too late

>>175195931
Which part of his post were you referring to?

>>175195416
I bet you LARP, you seem the type

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0OXR8MPkUY

I'm Derek and I came to post here: You will see what happens... You will all see that I was right. Screenshot this post.

>>175197252
>QA episode.
>Last week, GUYS WE MADE AN ATV AALL ABOUT A SHIP PLEASE BUY IT.

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>>175196858
Nah, LARP sacrifice the fantasy for immersion. Even vidya are better for role playing, just way until we invent better VR helmet and you'll have all the advantage of both

>>175195931
If you actually read the stuff dev gave us you would know that nomads & no-history are hyperbole.
They just don't have sentimental attachment to a place or history so they do move when needed.
And thank you for showing that Banu are simply more efficient human.

We are constantly slowed down by Conservative who want everyone to keep living in the past, while Banu would be an extremely progressive species, that's the best drive for a civilization.
If they weren't individualist seeking wealth they would just be a superior human civilization.

>>175198748
It's a germany episosde tho so I guess it can't suck too hard

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>>175197252
Disgusting

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>>175199339
she's QA so it's ok

>>175197252
these procedural terrains seem useless without any gameplay relating to them

where is my soil sampling mechanics

>>175197252
>my work is crucial
>i play video games all day
>just QA tester btw

>>175198806
>Liberal/Progressives
>Efficient
>Would ever stand for a "you will be assigned this job and family, forever" system when that could hurt someone's precious feelie weelies
>Industrious traders

Yeah nah, fuckboy

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so i haven't given a shit about any of the firearms shown before
but this here draws the god damn line
what is this, a NERF rocket launcher?

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>>175197252
>last 15 minutes was about QA

I think autism is mandatory for QA, based on this episode.

"do you have a clinical spectrum diagnosis? No? Sorry the position's been filled."

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>>175200716
We just don't know.

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>>175200716
>>175201608
Just looks like the AVRIL from UT2K4.

what was the s42 bit people were talking about?

>>175200369
in 3.3

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>>175202217
oh right

>>175200716
God modern FPS gun design is retarded.

>>175202472
At what point in time was it not retarded?

>>175202681
Mostly just arena FPS like Quake where you designed the gun to look unique in a bonkers setting rather than asking some nogunz faggot to design some tacticool bullshit based on that one time they saw Avatar.

>>175203102
Holy buzzwords, batman.

>>175195027
>look for SIRA Incorporated
>only similar faction there is SIRA Interstellar

What do?

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>>175203102
>implying the first decade of FPS wasn't made exclusively by nogunz faggots

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Recommendations?

I always consider melting the tally, I'm sentimentally attached to it, but everything I have read leads me to think its current configuration and myriad flaws are here to stay.

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>fake thick frame glasses
>sandi gardnier
>sandi gardnier's face
>sandi gardnier's voice

[Reeeeeeees eternally throughout the endless black void of space]

>>175200716
Long as it sounds cool and has it's time and place i'm all for the whacky unreal tournament "high tech" shit

not like anyone here actually wants a completely realistic space sim, you're in the wrong place if you want that

>>175195660
No they're shit.
The only time they hit anything is when controlled by a non-shitter gunner in which case they stick to the target like glue.
But their DPS is garbage even then.

>>175203794
Thank fucking god Ben doesn't co-host most of the time anymore, I don't think I can handle that level of robotic emotionlessness again.

>>175204097
maybe turrets weren't meant to kill small fighters

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>>175200521
Now that you put it that way...

Still progressive, it's not really different from signing for long study because of a personality test, just how many time do human switch job uh?
You could justify that with them liking their chosen job because they are "just that good" at motivating them and having an species wide OCD toward being the best at a set of things
There's still culture on Earth that are more different than that and don't consider themselves inferior

>>175203794
Seconded.
Every time she appears on screen I cringe. She is so painfully out whatever her element is among all the nerds that support and produce SC.


While I personally loathe her methods, I kinda want to give her some credit for keeping the project well funded. She is apparently quite good at convincing whales to spend money. However the flip side of that is that I personally have spent like ~$2000 on SC and none of that has been because of her semitic tricks.

>>175204254
Jared is a vast improvement I must say. However,
>Tyler became community manager after him
>still became head community manager
rly maeks u thik

>>175204431
i'd spend $2000 up front to make sure I never see her in an official SC video, stream, or event ever again

maybe if we all do it chris will work up the courage to tell her she needs to stay the fuck off the camera

>>175204389
They can't even kill the SLFs with paper for armor

>>175204431
>semitic tricks
Wait, is she actually a Jew, or just an honorary one due to her Shekel collection methods?

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>>175204886
I don't know, but definitely honorary.

>engineering ships for the first time
>g5 dirties on my FDL
>first time doing this so I have no idea what to expect from increased heat generation
>go from 46% peak while constantly boosting to 47%, but now I have a 520m/s boost

nice balance

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mmmmmm I love girls with glasses, def a dick suciking face today Sandi ;) cya aftyer ATV in the backroom for new """makeup"

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>>175204416
Thats some impressive chingrish

>>175205063
Bad heat efficiency is mostly only noticeable when firing weapons, fuel scooping or hard maneuvering/inverting under gravity. Your ship has a fixed dissipation rate so you don't really notice as long as you're under it, but as soon as you go over everything is horrible.

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>>175206087
haven't done any testing under gravity but unmodded I was peaking at 60% while boosting/maneuvering/firing. now it peaks 65%. i guess i was just expecting to get raped by heat considering the benefits.

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>QA episode

>>175208496
left girl looks like the girl in the background of this
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1493255865138.webm

>>175199339
Literally a 9/10 in Britain

>>175197252
Is it just Me, or does Sandy look actually cute with glasses?

>>175210015
back off! SHE IS MINE

>>175210823
Easy Derek, it's cool.

>>175210860
"grabs you by the throat"

I said BACK OFF

>>175209753
10/10 for gayming desu

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>improved terrain blending
???

>>175211767
>When a comical rocket simulator made by mexicans has better planetary landing system then a game made by all professionals over the course of years.

>>175212028
>professionals
>cig doesn't hire the cheapest college dropouts who spend all day playing overwatch rather than code

negro por favor

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>>175212028

>>175211767
>>175212915
>>175212028
I'm sure KSP has better simulation and more physically accurate and all that shit, but let's not go full retard here. It looks like early 2000s game. >>175211767 looks objectively better.

>>175203694
Why don't you just get an Idris?Just get biggest ship you can and earn the rest because you'll need to goals in game

>>175159958

>Mass Effect: Andromeda

>>175200504
Searching for new bugs is the fun part,the job part is searching for re-occuring bugs and documenting shit in painful detail

>>175213390
Face not stiff enough.

>>175160017
we have beam weapons?

>>175160017
>>175214505

the beams are cones? like you have an easier time hitting a target thats further away but do less damage?

im intrigued and confused.

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>>175213389
I have enough crew for a polaris, probably not enough for an Idris.

Also, cap ships are not "end game" they're force multipliers to be used against other player orgs for regional power struggles. On top of that, they're both too valuable and too costly to operate full time, cap ships will cost money to maintain and operate, without directly making any money themselves.

The people who think they're gonna ride around solo in a cap all the damn time are delusional and even if they own such a ship will likely never fly it in combat against anything but pathetically easy npcs.

Bigger is not automatically better and One ship is nearly always inferior to many, my prospector will make more profit than an Idris could hope to, and my Cutlass will probably engage in ten times more combat.

Cap ships are tools of power projection and local security, not daily drivers you'll be taking out whenever you feel like it. Every action taken by a cap will directly bleed credits, and at best those credits will only be recovered indirectly at worst, you will risk and lose the ship, and with it control of whatever you were attempting to dominate, making the recovery of the credits that much harder.

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>>175160017
It's a plasma pistol, not a laser, its projectile does not travel at lightspeed. That aside, it is possible that a plasma weapon has recoil, the projectile has mass, if only a little, and the variation in aim is easily explained as human element induced shot drift, humans are nearly incapable of sitting perfectly still without support. Perhaps we'll get drugs for that, or an implant of some sort or a suit type or weapon attachment, like a rigidly locking armored suit or a gyurostabilized gun.

>>175214505
>>175160017
We don't have beam weapons but apparently we are getting some. Pic related "PRAR plasma beam" and "HRST Electron beam" are both ship weapon sets coming this year in theory.

>>175207101
It's when you run dirty drives with overcharged power plant and overcharged and/or hot weapons that your hull becomes lava.
You should be more worried about the reduced thruster integrity making it easy to shoot out your drives.

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This cockpit is amazing.

>>175203794
Source of the image please. Is it photo or some kind of computer magic sorcery by Chris Roberts?

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Does it mean the Khartu-Al is going to have a fighter variant??

>>175203694
Connie Aqiula/Carrack for exploration instead of starfarer
Gladiator to Hornet if you are keeping the tali
>>175215887
isn't it from latest AtV?

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>>175203794
She's built like Skelitor. I want a woman with curves not a 2x4.

>>175215362
Resting thermal load = combined thermal load of all active modules + (total power consumption of active modules * power plant efficiency)

Every ship has a thermal management curve that isn't published info and it's your thermal load vs this curve that determines your rest temperature.

>>175216019
I never watch those hype videos because most of it is just propaganda etc. It's a way to avoid disappointment from delays etc. Call me a traditionalist *tips fedora* and a gentleman.

>>175215928
The Aopoa Qhire Khartu is a Xi-an scout fighter, the Khartu-Al is the shitty human friendly export version, so yes there will be a meaner fighter version, but probably not for sale.

>>175216019
>Gladiator to hornet if I'm keeping the tally?
Why? I don't need a straight starfighter, the gladiator can more than handle itself and is also more flexible.

>Abandon what promises to be one of the most flexible, profitable, and best armed for size ships in the for big fat exploration meme ships that don't even fly yet.
What can the Aquila do that a Starfarer can't, besides carry a Merlin?

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>>175216093
>not wanting Skeletor

>>175217312
>flexible
how is it flexible at all it's just safer trade ship
>profitable
you got a hull e
>best armed for size
beats the hulls and cat,what else is there?
>what can the aquila do
fire missiles,be a passenger ship and it come with a vehicle

So are we still in love with the Carrack?

>>175218405
You can't play hide and seek on a Connie.