Dueling Network General - /dng/

>buying physical cards

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Now that we're done with Subterrors and SPYRAL what are your opinions on them /dng/? This isn't asking which is better or anything like that, just your opinions on them as a whole.

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Here for jews and jewing

PLEASURE THE RAT

Doki doki no waku waku /dng/.

>>174935053
>buying virtual cards

>We let a Rule 63 fag make the thread
so this is what we've come to

>>174935581
>/dlg/

>>174935636
Would you rather have a Bara thread or maybe a Balloon thread?

>>174935636
/a/fags just won't leave and remake their own general already

>>174935146
Subterror art is easily my favorite of the whole game and the MACR support is so good that i dont have to use the shitty Tarotrei engine anymore, kinda wish the Behemoths had gotten better effects overall but i guess i'll make do with Ultramafus, Umastrix and Stalagmo.

>>174935395
whut?

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Reminder that Aoi pleases old men for

>>174936613
life points.

>>174936613
thanks bud this REALLY helps me out

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>heroglacier
>HERO Glacier

new hero confirmed?

>>174936613
no really, go die

If all of these aren't in the collection pack I'll fuck
Performapal Odd Eyes Dissolver
Performapal Odd Eyes Synchron
Performapal Odd Eyes Priest
Performapal Five Rainbow Magician
Scales Magician
DDD Superdoom King Whitest Armageddon
Superheavey Samurai Swordsmith
Abyss Actor Curtain Riser
Twilight Ninja Kagen
Amazoness Pet Liger
Gladiator Beast Andabatae
Gladiator Beast Tamer Editor
Destiny Hero Dustkutopia

>>174936613
Rare cards.

Is this Maximum Overjew

>You can go into plus 4 then possibly into toadally awesome in fortune ladies now thanks to spellbook of rudra

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>>174938320

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Why are those gishki cards still limited?

>>174936613
RPS wins.

>>174938514
Looping shit

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>>174934961
ima koso hitotsu ni

>>174938871
go back

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Anyone else secret-ly enjoy when every card in an archetype is foiled out? It's so nice having every opening hand shimmer in the sunlight.

>>174939275
>falling for their plans
>"cosmic" eye faggotry
shitcord die

>the real Maximum Crisis was Konami's bottom line all along
wow

>>174940017
it was their hint before links

>>174935146
Subterror Behemoths have really cool art, shame you have to use the Nemesis cards, I'll probably end up building them eventually, bit put off by £10 for a bloody field spell though

>>174939275
No, because paying $40 for a secret is obnoxious enough as is, much less the $70 we all know it's going for. And yugioh foiling is terrible, the cards curl in even the tiniest humidity.

>>174940173
yuro detected

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Guess who's laughing now, Draco players.

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I want to Link my balls to Aoi's tongue.

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And Z-Arc is a secret.

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post top quality cardfus

>>174941167
Lyca sit on my face!

>>174941384
You start.

>>174941384
I've played subterrors since the beginning, when they where complete ass. Fiendess belongs to me, and me alone.

>>174941503
Name a better girl than Fiendess.

>>174941623
Archer.

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>>174941623

>>174941707
word

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>>174941707
She is also acceptable.

>>174941623
The OP

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>>174941384
High Quality

>>174939435
Hi gorror. Shame I missed the $200 Tourney.

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>>174941384
One of the best

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>>174941623
blue eyes white dragon

>>174941909
>tfw this drawfriend hasn't replied to my things so I can get TGU drawn

>>174940173
euros pls go back to bed

>>174941785
>>174941707
>>174941623
These are claimed
i have not given you permission as these girls pimps
>>174941612

>>174941921
Can we all agree tourguide is the worst of waifus?

>>174942062
Yes, whoreguide a shit.

>>174942062
Yes.

>>174941953
that's not kisara you ingrate
go the fuck back already

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>>174942062
That's just like, your opinion man.

Jonathan Moore, are you reading this thread?

yo fuck ironcore

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>>174941994
He still hasnt gotten back to you yet?
Its like he just fell off the world or something

>>174942062
No cause dmg still exists

>>174942348
It happens, maybe he'll get back around eventually.

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>>174942454
Hopefully. It'd be nice to see more art of her.

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>>174942623
I'll just have to crawl through Pixiv, and probably get other commissions as well,

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>>174942730
Damn that sounds like a chore. Well goodluck with that anon. and godspeed

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>Every single True Draco card is either Ultra Rare or Secret
>Even Draius who no-one uses
Does the greed of Konami know no bounds?

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>>174942762
CAN'T WAKE UP

>>174943076
they learned after rat

>>174943330
>The rat twins won't ever bully your penis.

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>>174943414
Werent they triplets?

Slot Machine - 777
>3 Level 7 monsters
>Deatch 1, Graceful Charity on legs

y/n

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>>174943076
Nothing personal goy, i just want your money for these shiny cards.

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Post ur techs

>>174943545
I miss when Pendulums had the "You cannot Pendulum summon monsters except >this archetype"

>If this card is Special Summoned by the effect of a "Jurrac" monster
None of them do this?

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>>174943914
Top sekrit do not steal

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Name an edgier archetype.

>>174943978
I think they mixed in evol

>>174943978
I'm really gonna miss Performapals once the link format is installed on Ygopro, they're attack and defense manipulation is fun, I'm doing shit like summoning card Card Guardna, then swiping it's defense with it's attack, then raising said attack, then attacking with Odd Eyes while Odd Eyes unicore is in the scale and Plant Radish has already used it's attack lowering effect on my opponent's monster. Performapals really know how to tak advantage of Odd eyes pendulum dragon's effect.

>>174943690
OPT: Roll a dice to determine 1 of 3 effects.
•Graceful Charity
•Monster Reborn
•Self Destruct
You can detach 1 to choose the outcome of a coin flip or dice roll. When it's destroyed, draw cards equal to how many Xyz Material it has.

Seven Completed
Equip
Boost machine by 700
When equipped to a xyz it can become Xyz material
When sent to the graveyard you can flip a coin, if heads return it to your hand.

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Can we all agreed that DMG is cutest waifu?

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>>174944210

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>>174943978
Huh I could have sworn there was a jurrac that summoned other jurracs. But i guess I'm remembering wrong

>>174941342
Wow it's not called Supreme King DRAGON Zarc?
Watch, one day they'll make a card that searches cards that have Dragon in their name and he'll be the next frog the jam

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>>174944438
Both Jurrac Velo and Guiba summon other Jurracs with 1700 or less attack

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>>174944210

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>>174944378
No, go away

>>174944432
Wasn't this meant to go together with the Knife and Fork archetype?

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>>174944551
Oh well that works then.

>>174944692
The Malcevourous things? I think it was but im not sure

>>174944810
This card is actually really good.
I would've preferred it if it was "Level 9 or lower, ignoring its summoning conditions", but pickers can't be choosers.

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>>174944995
Im guessing so you can get out Jurrac Titano huh.

Man Dinosaurs have been getting good generic stuff but Jurracs and Evol's are just left behind

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>>174945151
Aeolo is now worth more than gold, and Titano got all it could ever ask for, at least.

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>>174945368
Meh i guess so, But who am I to talk, I cant make a deck worth a shit so, im just happy for new cards no matter what they are for

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>blah blah blah give B.E.S. field spell xaxaxaxa :)))))))
>yadda yadda yadda Amazoness need better swarming extrathic xdxd
>[Column joke goes here]
>Genex is worst thing ever1!11!!!!

Is there anyone more BTFO than rank10?
>B.E.S. get a field spell that makem playable at all
>All that new amazoness support
>Link Summoning is making card placement relevant
Side note, expect people rulesharking because you moved a monster out of its place in tournaments, assuming there will be tournaments after this game crashes and burns.
>Genex curbstomps everyone in his little circlejerk tournament

>>174945453
>Ritual Pendulums never ever
>Extra Deck Pendulums probably never ever again
It's truly the end of an era

>>174945525
>btfo
>not realizing that he is literally flowing with raw Meme Magic
>or that he's a mole for Konami
baka

>>174945525
The man is cursed, but at least he had the foresight not to review Jurracs and Evols before details of the Dinosaur Structure Deck were shown.

We need him to joke about Construct and Stratos and whatever else should be released.

>>174945675
Well i'm hoping Genex takes the real win and that makes Tewart looks like "oh yugitubing is clearly our new selling spot for goys!" and then looks at rank10ygo videos then makes the next TCG archetype be Genex support that supports the entire archetype, as in genex, r-genex and genex ally

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>>174945525
>Side note, expect people rulesharking because you moved a monster out of its place in tournaments, assuming there will be tournaments after this game crashes and burns.

This is my biggest worry for the Links format, early tournaments are going to be a cheaters and rulesharkers paradisethanks to the importance of card positioning.

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>>174945594
Theres alot of things that we will never get

>>174945812
Yeah i have to admit, the guy knows his shit sometimes, at least judging by his video of the almost worthless but its funny to see how the shit he says backfires on him.

Also he did make a joke about stratos in (ironically) the genex video.

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>>174946063
>Monarch
>Level 4
Do you even MANarchs, son?

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>>174946263
The effects pretty good for a level 4 though. Also tthey made extra deck monarchs for some reason

>>174946425
>Extra deck Monarch
You a nigger, mate.

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>>174946510
Ay, Im not the one who made them. People seem to want ED monarchs for whatever the fuck reason

>>174946425
Why do so many CaC refer to the 'banished zone'? Is that even an official part of the field?

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>>174946668
These are really old CaC i think, back when Mega Monarchs were first becoming a thing so the CaC were extra bad

>>174945525
Trust me, B.E.S. is far from "playable" (at least as a 'pure' build). Now that they have the field spell they are in the step before "playable", whatever its name is.

>>174947198
Mediocre is far better than being a bunch of shitty tribute monsters with putrid stats and shitty counter gimmick on top of one of their primary cards (boss rush) gimping all of them because they get counters when normal summoned (except for MK2) with no coherent playstyle, at least Zelos made them swarm the field and be an actual boss rush, the only thing they need is a searchable option that can protect the field spell of literally anything

>>174947648
KoA was a mistake. The sad part is that they can completely get away with it because KoA gives zero fucks so long as they make bank.

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are wight monsters/skull servants fine where they are atm?

>>174947648
I'm okay with the elevated rarities. It means there won't be as many people at my locals playing Zoodiacs and Dracos.

>>174947648
they just take the metatard "Winning is fun" and turn it into "Making Money is Fun"

congratz yugibaobabboon you played yourself

>>174947846
Apparently they're still pretty good. That would make them even better.

>>174947648
Capitalism isn't a mistake, jews controlling capitalism is.

/pol/ shit aside, my biggest problem with KoA, or mainly the TCG is more like them being imcompetent as fuck, shitty localization department consisting of "hurr lets make random scissors SHINY! think of the children!!!!" [meanwhile Leo Dancer is allowed to spread her THICK LION THIGHS and Silent Magician exposes her soft hips] and "puns for names xdxdxd toadally awesome xdxdxd SPYGAL" while also keeping a fuckton of good cards stay in the OCG despite their archetypes being in the TCG for a damn while, judges being head deep in their asses on top of having a BBC loving bitch be their top judge who knows nothing about the game and refuses to give answers or take feedback about shit and leaves rulings be confusing as fuck we sometimes have to use OCG rulings but wait that's OCG which is an imaginary format amirite :v) and lastly, the rarity bumps, i can accept that they make the top tier shit be secret rares worth a damn lot but short prints and bumping a random engine just because of random hype (See wind witches). KoA would be better without Tewart, Jerome and Julia

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>>174947995
Wights just seem like that archetype that everyone enjoys

>>174947648
Its just KoJ using KoE and KoA to make the money they would lose doing these nice things for their Japanese consumers so that they even out.
KoA surely is the mistake being the money hole for KoJ, seeing how they truely priortize money first and leave everything else unless if said thing would benefit their sales figures.
If anything they should let the tcg side of things fall into the hands of someone else like upper deck, probably not upper deck but another company that has people who know how to run shit properly.

>>174947428
Yeah, some kind of RotA clone would make the deck almost good, shame that if it ends up happening we will have to wait another 5 years since that's more or less the amount of time Konami takes to release random obscure archetype support

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>>174943914

>>174948153
True, KoA does seem to be REALLY incompetent. They must be making enough good decisions as to not get fired though. I want to see sales reports.

>>174948342
OK
JEWART GETS FIRED
BUT WotC PICKS UP YUGIOH

>>174948471
Literally who

>>174948428
>Jewart gets fired
Nothing else even matters. So long as EA, Blizzard or Memetendo doesn't pick up the game, anyone else could do a better job.

>>174948567
>video game companies taking ownership of KoA
rofl

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>>174948549
a fucking faggot that wont go away already

>>174948567
>Blizzard
I would like to see what they'd do

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Would a skull servant extra deck monster benefit the deck?

>>174948676
>Yugioh gets bought by Alphabet who uses it to shill AR Tech and does a release of Google Glass under the name Zexal Glass

>Duel Links becomes Pokemon Go 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>174948676
>company known for ruining everything they touch
>what is Hearthstone and WoW TCG
>what are E-Reader cards, and Amiibo cards and figures

>>174948838
There is an Xyz that benefits skull servants, his name is Lavalval Chain, and he is innocent, he did nothing wrong, unchain the chain.

>>174948892
Battle City irl when

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>>174948926
Is Lavalval still deserving of its ban now that links are coming out or can it come off the list now?

>>174948895
-EA to my knownledge, only buys videogame studios, and then murders them
-Garbage
-E-Reader cards were NEVER relevant and amiibo shit is just for their nintendo shit, what nintendo would end up doing is just make yugioh games be switch exclusive

>>174949021
>link format
>2 level 4
>send Dandylion to the graveyard for free 2 tokens

>>174949241
And then what?
Your EMZ is already occupied

>>174948926
>generic r4 toolbox with foolish burial and manipulate card draw effect
stay banned forever

>>174949241
I would welcome an OPT errata on Lavalval. Loops are cancer and should be squashed.

>>174949462
You're mad only because of Nekroz PTSD, Nekroz is fucking dead, Lavalval chain needs to return

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>>174948895
>forgetting pets
do you even chip

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>>174949035
>NEVER relevant
maybe outside of jp

>>174949406
You can use Lavalval Chain as Material for a Link Summon too

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Is there a good website or something for rouge decks? I'm looking for some fun things.

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>>174949021
Why are skull servants so fun?

What is more frustrating?
> decent support for your favorite archetype that isn't QUITE good enough to push it all the way due to some design choice, restrictions or simply not enough cards
>overpowered support that turns the deck into an engine that is abused by existing meta decks, while not making the original theme able to compete with the now even better meta decks

>>174950481
Definitely the latter

>>174950481
>>overpowered support that turns the deck into an engine that is abused by existing meta decks, while not making the original theme able to compete with the now even better meta decks
The second one is the worst. It usually changes the entire playstyle of the deck and is actually good so if you liked the original playstyle and decide not to adopt the new cards, people will (rightfully so) question as to why you play an inferior deck. It such a shitty position to be in.

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>>174950473
Its probably the puns.

I wish there was more pumpkin support though

>>174950481
The former. In the latter case that shitty archetype was at least able to contribute to something. In the former case, nobody wins.

>>174950753
Your mum is shitty.

>>174949509
Qli is also fucking dead. Skill Drain and Vanity to 3 when?

>people didn't think diagram would be maximum foiled

Anyway, how do we drain the swamp that is KoA?

>>174951285
By stop playing Duel Link

>>174951285
You cut off the head and hope the two new heads that pop out aren't shit, if they are cut them again until it's all sunshine.

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>people thought it was going to be anything but a generic rank 4

>>174951285
How much do we reckon Diagram is going to cost? Considering it's essential in two top meta decks I'm guessing it'll put Barrage to shame.

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>Generic Rank 4 2-mat MST during either player's turn for no cost but 1 detach

Diamond Dire officially powercreeped.

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The Japs are just so superior when it comes to hobbying

>Esprit Lord - Asakujaku
>4 WIND ATK/2000 DEF/2000
>Winged Beast / Ritual / Spirit / Effect
>You can Ritual Summon this card with "Esprit Awakening". Must be Ritual Summoned, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. If this card is Ritual Summoned: You can add 1 "Esprit Lord" Ritual monster from your Deck to your hand, except "Esprit Lord - Asakujaku" , this effect becomes that monster's effect when that monster is Ritual Summoned. Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned this turn: Return it to the hand, and if you do, Special Summon 1 "Esprit Bird Tokens" (Winged Beast-Type/WIND/Level 4/ATK 1500/DEF 1500).

How do we stop the rank 4 menace

>>174951429
>>174951464
So is every new good xyz just going to be generic rank 4 now? I guess I'll Konami isn't bothering to pretend anymore.

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>>174950072
>rouge deck
This guy looks pretty red to me.
Serious answer, try looking at compilations of decks at regional tournaments.
I don't think there are any collections that ONLY have rogue decks.

>>174951464
>>174951429
MAXIMUM TOOLBOX ACHIEVED.

>>174951435
Barrage was $90 US right?

$120 for Diagram, I guess.

Followed by the sharp drop to $30 when the surprise banlist hits

>>174951429
>>174951464
Rank 4 better man's Totem Bird?

>>174951435
More than Lawnmowing, less than desires.

>>174951429
For fuck's sake.
Why does Konami love rank 4 so much?

>>174951464
Is there literally anything the R4 toolbox can't do or out right now?

Jesus, I haven't seen a mechanic/card type be this overloaded in forever.

>>174951429
good card, but did we really need a generic 2 material mst rank 4? the art is nice though

>>174951506
The main problem with the Shinobird rituals is that they don't have an easy way to recycle the Ritual Spell when their main play relies on it hard. This card doesn't fix that at all.

>>174951464

Do you think they did this because they were upset that Theseus turned out to be a pile of dogshit and not the best card of 2017?

>>174951691
In this age of Field Spells dominating the game, it's a welcome addition.

>>174951665
Because Level 4 monsters are too good. Even generic supports for Ritual (Manju, Senju Sonic Bird) are all Level 4.

>>174951680
>Is there literally anything the R4 toolbox can't do or out right now?
That's the point.
Most good monsters are level 4, so why shouldn't they give most good Xyz to rank 4? Putting an essential answer tool in a difficult to access rank would be pointless.
It just becomes an issue when rank 4 becomes its own win condition and eclipses every deck's own goals and bosses, like what happened with Ptolemaios.

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>>174951429
>>174951464
Fucking Konami.

>>174951797
They just need to git gud at designing cards. I swear none of the designers in this game playtest, ever.

>>174951821
A fifth of all CARDS in the game are Level 4 monsters. They shouldn't be able to best the other four fifths.

>>174951429
This is the laziest fucking card design.

>>174952030
Why is it lazy?

Just got back in after leaving when Monarch structure deck was topping YCS

what decks do i get into now before links come in?

>>174941167
It's going to be fucking Zoodiac Chakanine in the TCG isn't it?

>>174952030
>Generic ass name
>Generic ass rank
>Generic ass mat
>Generic ass effect

I mean, it's wyrm instead of dragon so there's that

>>174951429
This is like the final thing a r4 deck couldn't do well, jesus christ.

>>174941167
How many Ultras are in this damn set?

>>174952137
Generic 2 mat r4 MST on legs is basically babies first CaC.

>>174951793
Shinobird King Vassal
1900 beater
can be used as full tribute for a wind ritual
and when he is sent to the grave or a monster on the field returns to the hand, you can add 1 ritual spell in your grave to the hand.

>>174952147
You wouldn't be able to afford it if you want to play meta.

Otherwise, anything with extra deck mechanics. This'll be the last few months to have fun with them on their own merits.

>>174952207
Generic rank 4 is still all answers and no threats. You can't win games with generic r4 alone unless your engine is busted enough to summon three of them every turn. So I don't see the issue.
>>174952272
So it's something people have wanted for a long time and felt was needed. What's your point?

>>174951429
>2100/2000
>MST on legs

>>174952370
>Answer to everything isn't a win condition

Well all those decks that totally rely on their field spells to work all just kind of suck now.
Oh well.

>>174952370
>you can't win games with generic r4 alone unless you win games with generic r4 alone

>>174951793
>recycle the Ritual Spell
I think some protections against negation for Hime/Hiko is more important.
The current format is too fast so usually you don't really need Ritual summon more than 3 times.

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>>174951464
>>174951429
I mean, Rank 3 has like 3 different generic ways to pop s/ts. But still being a quick effect is so good.

>power creep is fun

>>174952495
EMEm would have been stupid as a rank 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8 deck.

>>174952470
>tt doesn't exist
You have to draw into TT

Fuck this shit, I'm getting back into GOAT format

>>174951429
>stole generic r3's best ability and one-upped it
It's not fucking fair.

>wah wah rank 4
You can't even summon more than one of them anymore, quit whining.

>>174952650
>r3's best ability
>Not a cost 3mill
>Not ss 1 earth warrior or BW from deck

>>174952725
Niceu baitu

>>174952725
>a perfect toolbox is fine lol, you can't even summon multiple at a time anymore :^)

>>174952725
(You)

>>174952759
>ss 1 level 4 earth warrior
Rank 3's best card is still just a stepping stone for rank 4.

>>174952759
Minerva already does that and no one gives a fuck. Invoker is good but nowhere near as generically useful.

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>>174952370
>>all answers and no threats

>Summon Tornado Dragon
>Draco/Dino player activates Diagram
>Tornado Dragon pops Diagram
>Draco/Dino player ends their turn
>Win

Furthermore
>Tornado Dragon
>Wyrm
It's a fucking tcg exclusive, how do you fuck that up from the getgo

>>174952882
>Ghost Ogre
>Ghost Ash
>the billion different MST variants
But no, the MST that requires two fucking monsters is the problem

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>>174951464
>>174951429
mfw Dire Wolf

>>174952882
>Popping diagram advances your gamestate in some meaningful way

>>174952370
Removing everything your opponent plays, then swinging for 2000~ is a win condition mate.

>>174952980
It's the one thing that allows those decks to make plays or else they die

>>174953010
Removing everything your opponent does with one rank 4 per turn?

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>>174953101
Gday mate, fancy a fight?

30 cards Extra Deck when?

>>174953163
>banned
>legal in the OCG but barely ever relevant

>>174953173
>30
20first, small steps

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>>174953239
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little bitch

>>174951464
>>174951429
Well at least I can pop that fucker Imperial Order easier

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NO
I CAN STILL DESTROY MONSTERS
I CAN STILL BE RELEVANT GUYS
PLEASE GIVE ME A CHANCE

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>>174953407
>pop a beast warrior and another card
Make me float doggy

Lol, Subterror gets okay support that might have made the deck playable then gets hard countered by generic 2 mat rank 4 exclusive.
Pretty sure this hoses Spyral too.

>>174953407
Can you pop Skill Drain?

>>174953556
Resort means they're popping that or nothing.

>>174953556
I love it. Fuck petdeck shitters, this is Zoo country. Bow down to your rank 4 masters.
>>174953589
No Resort equals ded Spyral.

This Rank 4 MST is good, but Extra Deck is too tight for now. The Lighting, Castel and Abyss Dweller are still the best.

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>>174953652
>Implying Zoos aren't a petdeck

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>>174953556
>Tornado Dragon only destroys spells/traps
>All the new Spyral and Subterror spells and traps don't float
>All the new True Draco spells and traps do, which requires Cosmic Cyclone to get rid of them
>Tornado Dragon is a secret
>The True Dracos are ultras and secrets
>Subterrors and Spyrals are supers
>Cosmic Cyclone is a secret

>>174951435
I JUST WANTED TO PLAY TRUE KINGS GODDAMMIT KONAMI
True Kings might as well be "summon a bunch of massive dragons" so I was pretty interested when VFD and all that got announced

>>174952882
> not activating terraforming after that

>>174953810
Me too, I was hoping to play both Dracos and Pure Kings, but at this rate I might as well make a few proxies and just play Kings at my mega-casual locals.

Let's make our own Rank4s

>Terra Dragon
>Rank 4 EARTH Wyrm-type
>3000/2500
>1 monster
>During either player's turn, you can activate 1 Field Spell from your Hand, Deck or Graveyard.

>>174953652
>No Resort equals ded Spyral.
Im fucking plying. All resort does proactively is be themed RotA, everything else is reactive and protective. Plus I can just play another.

>>174953776
>>All the new Spyral and Subterror spells and traps don't float
>Rescue doesn't float and isn't a trap that you can chain to tornado
>Fully armed doesn't float into a super agent
Hm

>>174953854
That's not how it works dude, you play the terraforming first to make your opponent think that's your only copy, then drop the second field if/when he removes it

This is basic gameflow shit, just like when people attacked directly with smaller monsters first in fear of Gorz

>>174953982
>3k
You're not even trying

>>174953021
>he doesn't know that the deck has plays outside of Diagram
The deck topped all this weekend without Diagram, they don't even need it senpai.

>>174954060
typo, its supposed to be 5k

>>174953407
You're good in link format and in ABC since you remove yourself from the field. DDW really wasn't powercreep'd.
>>174953556
>>174953652
Expect Drident, GOSR and Ash already exist. Tornado is a shittier Drident who has some cute interactions with your own S/T.

>>174954087
>Pfft, what's consistency, I don't need consistency to play

>>174953982
>Exiled Dragon
>Rank 4 WATER Wyrm-type
>0/0
>2 Level 4 monsters
>Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can target 1 card your opponent controls; Shuffle your Deck

>>174954087
The deck may not strictly NEED diagram, but it is undeniably better with it.

>>174951464
>>174951429
>Wyrm rank4 XYZ

any cheeky shit that this could lead to

>>174954129
Tornado Dragon works twice and isn't 0/0 and doesn't require two ED spots if being used outside of Zoodeads

I come with a choice /dng/

You may either have the current rank 4 toolbox including banned cards or have it replaced with every other Xyz (they are now all r4 but other requirements stay the same). Which do you take?

>>174954138
Obviously it's still fairly consistent considering it's already topping in the TCG without MACR cards.
>>174954193
I know, but people saying "It's Diagram or Bust" are fucking retarded.

>>174954228
>Rank 4 UF/Magnus

>>174953979
Given Lithosazim has like doubled in price, and now this shit is secret I'll probably sit out on True Kings for a while and play them later when stuff gets cheaper (hopefully)

>>174954228
How about you reword your fucking question

>>174954232
>TCG
>Mattering

>>174954228
Everything else being r4. Big eye and dracosack at r4 are nice

>>174951429
>>174951464
>quick effect
>can destroy your own cards
itstimetostop.jpg

>>174948153
Jerome isn't as bad as Jewart and Julia though.

Yeah he overhyped a vanilla tuner IF target but he generally keeps himself as irrelevant background noise.

Also YGO's names both sides of the world have become bad puns as much as I agree Magical Something and Toadally Awesome are dumb.

>>174954284
>Got a playset of Agnimazud just because he did me well at the TDIL sneak peaks, before he was 20 dollars
>Traded a Lawnmowing for 3 Bahrastos and 6 Lithosazim
Hopefully Mariamune isn't too valuable.

>>174952967
You mean the MST you don't have to search is the problem.

>>174948428
Things get slightly better but expect jew practices anyway since YGO has no real opposition in the west.

>>174954228
Take the field. It'd be more fair if it was just like r1-r3 plus r5-r7. Rank 10+ shit breaks it.

If you want to stop Trueking then why not just summon an Abyss Dweller.
Tornado is useless if opp uses a Kaiju or Raigeki before activate their field spell.

>>174949509
>Needing 2 level 4s to do everything

Meh, even the OCG let Chain die in a hole

>>174954539
>jerome finally gets a shot
>fucked over by links
when will he get another chance
who knows what other ideas he has

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>generic r4 s/t removal
>it's a fucking quick effect too
>not hard opt either
I thought maybe, just maybe with the right deck and some smarts, I could still manage to play Pendulums in the new format.

I thought wrong.

Do you think we could get Japan to trade us Number 41 for Tornado Dragon?

>>174951615
Nah, it'll be 60 then drop to ~30 once no buys the thing like the all the zoo shit.

>>174954540
Oh what the fuck I did not know Agnimazud spiked, good thing I already have him and Bahrastos. Might end up picking up Litho, VFD, and the like if they're cheap just to be safe in case they end up going up later or something

>Seller is selling 3 Dante for $10
>Listing says Gold version
>Buy it
>Get package
>It's 3 1st edition Duelist Alliance versions

Amazing. Same happened with a Deneb listing. Listing was for Mega tin version but it was 3 1st Edition Alliance versions.

>>174954745
Pends were doomed the moment Pepe/EMEm was born.

>>174954887
VFD is only a Super rare so he'll be pretty obtainable.

>>174954224
>Tornado dragon works twice
Still OPT and doesn't protect itself from monsters like Break Sword. It has it's merits but I wouldn't call it broken.
>>174954598
You mean a MST that you can't even use when your opponent is going first?

>>174954974
Yeah I'm fairly optimistic about VFD not breaking the bank, shame about Diagram though

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>>174954887
>Litho if they're cheap just to be safe in case they end up going up later

EVERYBODY POINT AT THIS GUY AND LAUGH

>>174955020
Not saying it's broken, just not worse than Drident

Is there any reason at all to buy Maximum Crisis now? The set was literally just True Dracos + odds and ends
now the only thing you'll pull is the odds and ends because the True dracos only come in the two highest rarities.

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Alright, /dng/ I absolutely have to know

What CAN'T Rank 4 do?

Someone host a duel.

>>174955135
Can't floodgate against tributes

YET

>>174955135
Out Vanity's fiend.

>>174955135
Non-targeting non-destruction removal

>>174955135
Banishing mill your opponent's cards face-down

RotA for Psychics/Rituals/Wyrms

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>>174955135
Destroy spel--
Break 3000 atta--
Attack without trigge--
Wipe the fi--
Floodga--
Well, they can't lock down monster zones.

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>>174955253

>>174955135
Change of Heart

>>174955137
Okay

>>174955269
>what is number 57?

>>174955218
>This Xyz summon is not considered a Special Summon
Let's do it

>>174955253
Tiaramisu says hi

>>174955135
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS
Konami in disguise looking for future ideas.

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>>174955320

>>174955135
Full power Dragon rulers

>>174955135
Can't steal or lock-down monster zones.
no way to out a 5000+ attack thing that's immune to card effects.
No good banishing effects.

>>174955135
Banish a card from the opponent's hand

>>174955135
Get me a gf

>>174955519
Not generic

>>174955638
>i-it doesn't count!

>>174955638
He didn't ask for generic

>>174955519
Are "lswarm" worth playing on a petdeck level? I know a place I can assemble the deck for cheap.

>>174955135
Don't think they have banishing Hand-rape or something that stuffs up your opponents monster zone.
Generic searching for types that aren't reptiles.
outs to 5000+ attack cards that are immune to card effects.
Floodgating tributes.

>>174934961
why is titty yugi so hot

>>174955135
Be Soul Charge in monster form

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>>174955568

>>174955519
>it's permanent
lvl 4 terrortop +tako that copy ophion's name in the extra so you can summon this, when?!??!

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>>174955748
Is this close enough?

>>174955135
Know why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

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>>174955135
Float into a different rank

>>174955691
Not really.

>>174955135
>What CAN'T Rank 4 do?
Have waifus

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>>174955568
>no way to out a 5000+ attack thing that's immune to card effects.
It'll cost ya

>>174955568
>number 57
>rise falcon
>S39

>>174955908
d-dont start

>>174955924
5300 maximum and is a "towers" when alone, shame that this guy is stupidly situational.

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>>174955908

>>174955924
>With pends now being in s/t, you have to destroy 4 monsters, 5 backrow, and a field to punch over 5000
fug

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>>174955825
Goddammit D/D/D Xyz are disappointments outside Kali Yuga.

>>174955885
>Ptolemaeus

Seriously I'm annoyed 3 mat R4s are Dildo Chair memes/niconico tier gimmick loops or are literally degeneracy incarnate like pic related and Shock Meister

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>>174955908

>>174956035
The cook goes in the EMZ, just fill the MMZ's and STZ's with i don't know, some duston shit then blow everything and get your 5300 cook

>>174956083
Ah right
That means he can hit 5600
Too bad the cook is kinda shit.

>>174956130
I dunno, i find him hilarious in decks that have floating effects

>>174956019
5900. 5 MZ, 1 EMZ (extra link), 5 S/T and field.

>>174955691
Not as long as XYZ and eventually links pop up. In case you haven't really noticed, there's not a lot of good decks that would struggle with Ophion cockblocking them.

>>174956054
That's not what float means. You destroy Ptol it isn't gonna come back as CDI thankfully.

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So how are subterrors looking post-support? What cards should I pick up now or wait on price drops from potential reprints?

To be completely honest, I just want to use a deck that runs Archer.

>>174956075
>>174956021
J-jokes on you, i only said that because i want to see r4nk cardfus, please post more r4nk cardfus so i can masturbate to the tought of them doing degenerate acts like holding hands

>>174956487
You can probably make an okay stun deck with a minimal Subterror "engine" and a bunch of goodstuff.

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>>174956502
>Having a Rank 4 as your waifu
Pitiful

>>174955924
If his atk gain were permanent that would be real neat

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>>174955908
>one card orgy

>>174956487
Hidden City is a must have at 3. Archer might be a decent investment too but i would run at most 2 of her now (and that's pushing it really) with the MACR support.

>>174956768
That ain't right.

>>174956620
Why is 21 so cute but so useless?
Eisbahn turbo with her?

>>174956853
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>174955924
>>174956019
>>174956035
>>174956083
>>174956225
READ THE DAMN CARD

ATK GAIN IS FROM MONSTERS ONLY

Darkly Big Rabbai
DARK/Spellcaster
Level 13
?/?

Cannot be normal summoned/set. Must first be special summoned (from your hand or graveyard) by banishing 5 "Forbidden one" monsters with different names from your hand and cannot be special summoned by other ways. Unaffected by other card effects. This card's ATK and DEF is always equal to twice the ATK and DEF of the monster with the highest ATK and DEF on the field (except "Darkly Big Rabbai")

>>174957386
So many niggas who dont read bruh.

>>174957710
dies to kaiju

Exiled Vanquisher
Level 4 EARTH Warrior, 1900/500
This card's Summon cannot be negated. Your opponent cannot Summon or Set monsters. If your opponent activates a card or effect: You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it, then shuffle your Deck.

There, is this a good card?