/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

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For any drawfags who may be lurking this thread:

Requesting this, but with Tails instead of Sonic.

>Reminder that this is the official translation, not a fansub

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Wow! My head's spinning!

>>174809602
Not too surprising. He said "shit" in the 2nd episode.

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SLOW

>>174809409
Added the game project folder to the OP.

Running out of space on the OP, so probably will whittle down down the general interest section as more news and eventually releases come in.

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This is a Blaze thread now, motherfuckers

>>174809409
>Fixed the OP
Thank you based anon

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Sonic's clothes look so stupid. I really wanna bully that dumb blue rat.

>>174809772
Good shit.

Though I bet a solid Lost-World-esque "ball" form would be harder to include than a general rolling animation. It would be nice to include to signal you're moving fast enough to perform certain maneuvers or something along those lines.

>>174809409
That background reminded me of Saved by the Bell.

fuck I feel old

>>174809772
>>174810267
I kinda wanted the slightly-luminescent ball from Unleashed or the opening cutscene from Lost World to come back, too.

>>174810120
Any's pretty cute.

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>>174810267
Hmm... Currently the dust trail is meant to convey just that, but perhaps something a bit more gradual like some speed lines that slowly build up would also help.

>>174810492
If you've played GHP you know that I love me some glowy shit. I'll see what I can do.

By the way, since the Drive folder is in the OP now (much obliged) there's a link to the current prototype for you to play! Just make sure you play with a controller, okay? That's what I'm using to test, so the controls are built around a controller setup.

>>174810757
Just make sure to periodically backup said folder.

>>174810757
The dust trail is a bit unclear, as it's an effect that's common in most platformers. The different running animations do a better job of conveying speed, since 90% of the time your character is either going to be the focus of the screen, or in very, very close peripheral vision while the path ahead is the focus.

>>174809772
>>174810757
I will say I'm a bit disappointment with how slow Spindash goes at the moment, but I'm assuming that'll be fixed later, right?

Please post cute NiGHTS art.

>>174811084
So you're saying something on top of the different running animations would be preferable?

>>174811151
Buff the Spin Dash? Can do.

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Unpopular opinion: Heroes' engine is underrated.

It has a solid blend of speed, platforming, exploration, and combat, but its beat-em-up-style level progression does detract from the former three, the aspects that characterized earlier titles in the Sonic series. But nevertheless, its engine allowed multiple playstyles within a single level, and presented a venue in which every single character could work not only consistently, but effectively.

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>>174809409
Love that art, holy cow.

>>174811387
Not him, but if I wanted to convey high amounts of speed without dust clouds, I'd slightly distort the screen and add a lighter, miniature version of the Boost effect around the front of Sonic's body.

Also, in regards to Spin Dash, would it be easy to bind it to X as well as B?

>>174810757
3D Animation anon here. I've been futzing around with this model all morning. While the lack of controls is a bit jarring I do think I can pose it.

Out of curiosity are you making any animations as well? And do you have the current Lost World textures? Or would you prefer I just send you untextured animations (it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things)

>>174811387
It shouldn't be high priority, but maybe the legs blurring like CD or Lost World would help give the feeling of the speed at which you're traveling. The "solid ball" concept is the same principle, but for rolling instead.

can you tell I'm trying to channel Shaymay?

>>174811508
Heroes in general is somewhat underrated to me. And that isn't to say it's a masterpiece or devoid of fault.
But it's a fucking LOFTY game with OODLES of content, and is perhaps the ONLY mainline sonic game that managed to keep combat somewhat interesting.

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>>174811508
Sonic Heroes was good, maybe even a great game. (For Sonic standards AYYYYYYY)

But it being the game that added weird shit like health bars like you were playing a goddamn beat em up game was so wrong. Yeah, let's play a platformer known for it's speed and add button mashing shit. It came to it's ultimate head in Sonic Unleashed: Ghost of Sparta but at least they seemed to learn from their mistakes.

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>>174809409

>>174811686
You know? I might just have a particle effect from a previous project that could do the trick pretty nicely. I'll give that a shot. As for X button as well, that shouldn't be an issue. Just fine the bit of code that asks for the B button and then include X as well.

>>174811727
Good to have you on board. Thank you, Anon. At this point I'm beginning to block out level design among other things. I'm an okay animator, but my focus is on other aspects of the project at this time. Finally, non-textured would actually be preferable. Less baggage to lug around.

>>174811802
An even higher top speed animation would be pretty neat. We have the full-tilt animation now, but what if there were a level even above that where his feet go full-on anime? That would be interesting, indeed.

>>174811876
>>174811909
I agree it really didn't play like a Sonic game, but fuck if it didn't work well.

I feel that the next game, Shadow, actually built on this engine well, and the ring count=health bar mechanic felt like a really clever decision. Both games' gameplay had a noticeable amount of sudden starting and stopping, but the level progression of both felt fluid and straightforward while at the same time had a decent amount of open areas for exploration.

Overall, I think that Heroes and Shadow had one of the most versatile and interesting engines in the entire series, and I wish they could've done more with it. perhaps this type of gameplay is the third one for Forces? It would make sense if we could test custom characters' abilities with it.

>>174812335
not so fast. yes, pun intended Remember that the speed does need to cap at somewhere in order for the player to keep track of what exactly is going on in the game.

>>174812335
I just have a couple more questions. First, is Eggman going to be the only one that gives information about the exhibits, or will every Sonic character have a role? And second, how good are you with in-game lighting?

>>174813070
Break down for me exactly what you're suggesting. I'm a little lost. Keep track of what they're doing in what regard?

>>174813173
We might be having other characters chime in as well, but that's still up in the air. as for lighting, I feel that I'm pretty good at setting up lights and dealing with real-time lighting, but I'm relatively inexperienced when it comes to Unity's baked lighting system.

>>174812335
If you want a max-speed animation just have Sonic distort a little and have his figure-8 go nuts like with LIMIT?!

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>>174809825

I agree. I have the advantage, they have NOTHING!

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>>174813573
Will other characters make physical appearances?
I just want an excuse to see/play as my waifu.

>>174813734
That's all up to the animators to decide.

>>174813573
>>174814153
I was curious about this as well. I don't want you to be overworked in regards to all of the characters, voices and animations as long as Sonic works and is fun to play as, but at the same time, imagine how cool it would be to unlock other playable characters.

>>174814153
>>174814417

I dunno yet. That's for waaay down the line after the level itself is pretty much done.

>>174813734
>>174814283
I'm not quite sure how to implement the Peelout style figure 8. I mean I can have his feet run in the pattern certainly but I don't know how to add the effects of the blur.

>>174814153
Your waifu a shit

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>>174814545
I would shrink down Sonic's legs such that they go into his belly and replace them with two large, triangular ribbons to represent the feet. Then animate the ribbons similar to CD' Special Stage sprite.

The original Hedge Physics model does something similar. Hang on. I'll pull up a picture.

>>174811276
No one?

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How does this make you feel, /sthg/?

>>174815171
They wasted money on a tattoo, big whoop.

>>174815005
To be innovative, you can probably achieve the same effect by distorting the model of sonic's feet into those exaggerated shapes. Which would also help maintian the feeling of it being a blur of Sonic's feet.

>>174815171
it's nice.
Hardly anyone is gonna know it's from a vidya. Most will assume its some random tribal shit like everyone else has.
Only true Sanic/Shad fans will know the truth from 50 years ago....

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Here's it from the back...

>>174815171
What >>174815410 said

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If you had a billion dollars /sthg/ but you could only spend it on Sonic related stuff, what would you/how would you spend it?

Side.

>>174815736
A Metal Sonic of my very own

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>>174815758
Oh, come on. The image didn't upload

>>174815736
Pay a bunch of scienticians to genetically create and grow a Sonic, a Amy, a Cream, etc, and raise them, love them, train them all for the ultimate goal -
Live action Sonic movie but with real mobians.

That or do the same but for Chao.

>>174815736
Fund a fighter, commission a bunch of stuff.

>>174816385
wew.
>perky

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>>174815736
I would buy that giant Sonic parade balloon. Also make me a Sonic room with a lot of stuff inside.

I still want to do the latter at some point.

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>>174815736
A fully animated Sonic hentai series over 20 episodes long featuring every girl from the series getting banged and impregnated by human men.

>>174816519
Imagine if Zonetan wasn't a hypocrite and bothered to make even one Sonic flash

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>>174816519
yes

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>>174815736
Funding a game that will meet my incredibly specific standards

What would be the weight/strength equivalent of ""Miles Per Hour"?

>>174816519
It should be like Totally Spies doing something new every episode

>>174815736
I would give the money to sega and in exchange they would have to create several teams of developers to create games for the big three types (boost, adventure, classic) while having me in charge

>>174816519
my echidna

>>174817004
Specifically, if the name "Miles Prower" was derived from the measurement of speed "Miles Per Hour", what would be the equivalent for a name derived from a measurement of power/strenght/weight/whatever?

>>174816519
>>174816814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v15U2uaV6k

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>>174816519

>>174817649

>measurement of power

Joules

>>174818392
>I've gotta find the Joules Emeralds!

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>>174816265
This
>Make an account called "Unofficial SOA" across all sites
>Commission so much shit from so many artists people immediately recognize the name
>Commission tons of lewd as well, just to fuck with people
>Donate the most to fundraiser streams and such to gain good P.R
>Newssite begin to pick up on the phenomenon as it's a slow day
>Donate an excessive amount to Patreons from the Sonic comunity
>Donate the most to struggling streaming artists
>Donate most to fundraisers for Sonic community events
>People start thinking you work for SEGA
>Never confirm or deny it
>SEGA denies it but theories start being thrown around anyways
>Commission C.W and hire a bunch of the Mania Devs to make more fangames
>They're so good people once again think they're official
>Rehire past voice actors to voice the cast
>Fuck it even bribe SEGA to re-publish the comics continuing from where they left off
>Once again never confirm or deny working for SEGA
>The day when you decide to reveal yourself comes
>LIGHTS
>CAMERA
>ACTION
>A 11/10 model comes into the screen, people begin thinking Unofficial SOA is some bombin babe
>Actually just some model you hired to pretend to be you
>Few days later she disappears
>You gave her enough money to start a new life and to never speak of anything
>Days past with no news as people come to think Unofficial SOA is dead
>Few days later an account called, "Unofficial SOJ" pops up
>Process repeats until money dries up and you fade into obscurity

>>174818392
"Joules Prower" would be accurate

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>>174816519
That sounds great. Don't forget to only post a few screenshots and never the full thing.

>>174816071
Correct answer here.

>>174815736
>buy Sonic IP
>sit on the IP and do nothing with it
Just like SEGA did with all their other cool IPs!

>>174818619
now i'm mad the comics never once used this

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A moment of silence for Archie comics. They will be remembered

>>174818619
Joules Per Hour?

>>174819260
>no more dastardly devious Eggman
>Tassel boy forever shelved away and not properly made an example
Fuck

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Yo /sthg/ if I made a Sonic fighting game should i use M.U.G.E.N. engine or a completely original engine.

Pic related: remember when I made this when this general was born?

yfw I know jack shit about making a fighting game

>>174818619
>>174818392
I was referring to more of a physical strength kind of power. Like Knuckles' power.

>>174819260
I'll never forget when Mighty and Honey were actual characters with personalities who weren't shelved after their initial game appearances.

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https://youtu.be/JvBooDKQoUQ

Its a damn shame that Jun didn't use the official Soundfont of the Original Sega Genesis/MegaDrive for Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Ep 1 and 2.

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>>174813793
Blaze stop posting you're drunk.

>>174818479
That's a nice pic.

>>174815736
I would commission Sonic inspired hospital decor like a bed that looks like the ground in Green Hill Zone, cabinets that look like palmtree tops, chairs and tables that look like totem poles, colorful wall murals, curtains that look the clouds, etc. I would try to get companies to mass produce these and have them donated or at least rented out to hospitals with terminally ill children and terminally ill adult sonic fans

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>>174819467
I don't remember that for some reason. Huh.

>>174819990
aww
thats really sweet idea senpai

>>174819467
I don't think it matters if you don't know what you're doing.

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>>174819260
I haven't finished the comics yet.

I'll be sad when I do, though, I'm enjoying it so far.

>>174810757
Dunno anything about game design, but there's a load of free textures 'n stuff to use here I guess
https://www.gametextures.com/free-materials/

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>>174818392
>>174818619
>>174819398

>>174820286
Noted. Thanks.

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>"See if you can make it through here, Sonic!"

This is now my favourite Sanic gif (until the next one)

Always knew lil' Eggman was lower quality, but never seen him up close before.

How are they getting these?

>>174820852
What's going on here?

>>174820852
I wanna see Blaze's reaction to this

>>174820852
sonic sneaking a selfie with a sleeping blaze

guy has balls.

>>174813573
Meaning that the presence of both the character and the level ahead of them allows the player to get their bearings on their position, as well as to determine how to react at what's coming at them.

And since the character is always in or near the focal point of a player's vision, highly noticeable changes to the character's appearance (figure-eight legs, solid ball spin) would act as something of a speedometer.

If you're planning on re-incorporating Mach State or other techniques that can only be used when traveling at high speeds, animations such as these could be used. But I'm just taking the idea from Shaymay's vids, in which he suggests that homing attacks can be executed from anywhere, but only if the player is traveling fast enough and there is an enemy on which to use it.

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>>174820324
he's dead, jim

>>174815736
I would have a house built in the shape of something just vaguely Sonic-related enough to qualify, with the rest of the money going to my living expenses for the rest of my life.

>>174821415
>Sonic Team logo-shaped house
As in, it looks like the logo from the air. That would be sweet.
But I figure you mean something even less sonicy.
Like a sexy-ass house, but the doorbell has a small sonic sticker on it or something.
Got quite the ambitions, eh anon?
Actually, it's a smart idea if the offer comes up.

>>174815736
Have the following made:
>a TRPG
>a DRPG
>Rush 3 with Naganuma on music
>Genesis style ports of the Advance trilogy
>an artbook in Advance/Rush style
>a theme park featuring different zones, even though I don't like theme parks
>a hotel

>>174821176
For the sake of simplicity, I think it would be best to go with a simple Adventure-style moveset with a bit of GHP/Utopia thrown in such as a momentum-carrying Homing Attack and rolling down hills being a prevalent method of gaining speed. The hook of this project should be, in my opinion, the level itself rather than Sonic's mechanics. We've seen innovative and interesting design concepts with GHP, Worlds, Utopia and ShayMay's video series, but I feel that simple fun should be the focus for this particular project.

The simpler Sonic's moveset is the easier it will be to design levels around it.

I will say, however, that the more run cycles and effects we have at our disposal, the more accurately we can portray Sonic's current speed.

>>174818479
>>174819860
It's all wrong

>>174821963
Alright. That makes sense.
Though, minor question, are elemental shields going to be involved?

>>174822098
Must be Percival

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>>174819637

Honey didn't even really GET her initial game appearance, really. She wasn't finished and only existed as data on the disc, wasn't officially put into the game till the PS3 version.

Looks like she's getting another story though. That's cool

>>174822252
They currently are not implemented in the engine, so probably not. Let's focus on simple, Adventure-style gameplay with some Classic-style slope physics. I honestly think that's all we need to make a compelling Sonic level. Sonic's physics are so dynamic that those alone open us up to a lot of possibilities.

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>>174820631
That's discrimination!

>>174822352

Nobody tell this anon.

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>>174809409
Might as well remove the word Speedrunning from the OP. For the past 10 Generals for /sthg/ there hasn't been a lick of spit talking about speedrunning at all.

But we can continue talking about how a rich autist bought an autist creation though
>>>/v/374625554

Because thats how shitty the /sthg/ has been.

>>174822352
Pretty wishfull talk there, anon.

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>>174822352
>Looks like she's getting another story though
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this.

>>174822537
So far I get the feeling that this level is gonna be a lot of "inside a large building" area, which is cool but-
Don't suppose there'd be room for a smaller, outside area? Something with greenery and water perhaps? Just to off set the internal building atmosphere. I dunno if many museums have garden areas or anything....
I can give some concept art a go too if need be.

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>>174822741
>>174822789
>>174822823

Tell me what

>>174823082
see >>174821220

>>174823082
Anon, I......

>>174823190
>Orange control pad
>Round start button, not triangle

my mum first picked up a dreamcast controller and held it upside down, with the wire coming out the top ala sega genesis/NES. Made sonic run backwards. It was funny stuff, She never played 3D sanic again.

>>174822873
Hmm... This is meant to be a museum of Sonic, so why not have a historical greenhouse? The Green Hill flowers and palm trees, the block trees from Windy Hill, stuff like that.

>>174823082
Your waifu is a dead. DEAD!!!

>>174823615
That IS a sexy idea!
I love the idea of a greenhouse area too. That way it can show the outside easily enough without having a massive outside area to create too.
I'll see what I can mock up.

>>174823929
Do it!

>>174822257
Agreed. Blaze doesn't have the paws to give him a kiss

>>174823615
Are the eyes just a texture? I ask because there aren't really any irises on the model itself.

>>174820997
Guess it's this >>174824649

>>174824698
Sonic's eyes on the Lost World model are just textures, yes.

>>174819637
>Missing Red Sonic and a character who literally doesn't exist.

How tragic.

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>>174824920
Amy a shit

>>174824936
anon, the whole point was that the comics were what made them memorable, unique, and likeable.

>>174825031
Rude.

>>174825350
Mighty was basically Sonic but strong and Honey was a nothing in the games themselves since she was a scrapped character.

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>>174825608
>>174824936

>>174825608
But what you said about Mighty was wrong, and we're not even talking about the games.

>>174824920
I need more Advance Amy animations

>>174825031
Shut your mouth.

>>174825697
We need Bump instead of Sonic in that pic
>>174825764
N-Nani?!

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>playing Sonic Time Twisted
>decent fun so far, level design is gay though
>get to Galacnic Gauntlet
>the final boss is legit fucking Eggman-Galactus
>you kill him by tearing his face off and then bursting through his torso
I wish I could say "FUCKING DROPPED" but i literally already beat the damn game

>>174825796
>But what you said about Mighty was wrong
Tell me what differentiates him from Sonic in comics. For fuck sakes, he even has a Tails.

>>174824920
She's aware of us.

>>174815171
So subtle it actually works.

>>174826006
There's nothing. People only like Mighty, Honey, and the rest o the literal whos to look cool, they're just shit and deserve to be forgotten

>>174826785
Except Fang.

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>>174825995
I already raised an eyebrow when i found out Eggman died and Metal Sonic was trying to revive him but when he turned into Galactus it was so ridiculous it almost seemed like a deviantart fanfic.
The entire bossfight and ending were abysmal and it was a shame too since i had fun with the rest of the game, but it just left a sour taste in my mouth.

>>174826006
Isn't Mighty a peaceful dude in the comics, who tries to not fight & helped Sonic calm down while he was in his Werehog form?

>>174826929
Nah, he's dumb too. We already have a million rivals, we don't need another

>>174827006
I avoid playing it all together just to play Hallow Knight/Spark the Electric Jester instead.
Both of their games sounds better and plays better then Time Twist.

>>174826006
>Mighty is strong but not super fast
>Sonic is fast but not super strong
>Mighty believes he needs control and guidance
>Sonic believes he always has control and can do things himself
>Mighty is civil and courteous towards authority
>Sonic is lax and informal
>Mighty has serious anger issues when his friends get hurt
>Sonic just gets serious
>Mighty is humble and modest
>Sonic is cocky and braggadocious
>Mighty is peaceable and takes things slow
>Sonic likes shit FAST

Literally the only things they share are that they travel, are good people, and have a sidekick (and even then, Ray happens to share little with Tails himself). Come on anon, it's like you didn't even read the comics.

>>174827116
Fang isn't a rival. He's a villain.

>tfw no one streaming sonic lost world

why live

>>174827132
I can attest that Spark was amazing and Hollow Knight was being very fun (though I got bored and stopped midway)

>>174825995
>>174827006
>>174827132
Reminder that Time Twisted took 12 years to make.

>>174827251
>Lost World

Why?

>>174827191
We have enough of those too

>>174827251
Lost World sucks. I thought we knew this?

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What if this moment was the beginning of the comic ending?

>>174827292
He should've never bothered. 12 years of his life, wasted on garbage

>>174827337
>We have enough of those too
But all we have is Eggman.

>>174827458
When Sega saw the cover of "Alone".

>>174827251
>>174827447
im autistic

>>174827617
>But all we have is Eggman.
And that's all we need

>>174827251
I mean I could have another go at it.
But I already completed it.

So you rather I make a new file for it or just completely run thru the game with Super Sonic already Unlocked?
Streambroseph Luck

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>>174827292
>12 years to make
Please tell me this was solo.

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>>174827617
Don't fall for bait, anon.

Anyways, post some of your favorite character interactions in the series.

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>>174824395
Done.
Sorry for lack of artistic quality. I used my limited skills and resources lol even the gf made one (bottom pic)
But this is sorta what I saw in my head.
Largeish greenhouse-style room, with sanic trees, plants and stuff.
Added some real location pics as ideas/reference too, since can't draw at all.
Chao garden coconut and/or different fruit trees could be used too.
Just got a hard-on for the idea of being able to see a beautiful, sunny day outside whilst being inside a grey concrete building. the additon of nature is cool too.
Feel free to add it to the Drive.

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>>174828014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdrLC3nqhw
this has yet to be topped after all these years

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>>174828014

>>174828928
Eggman is my light in life

>>174828642
Yes... Yes! This is all very nicely done! I like this a lot! I have a bunch of leftover models from GHP, so the Green Hill models are taken care of, at the very least.

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>>174828014
.

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>>174816385

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>>174828014

>>174829265

Amy is Pac Man in the first panel.

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>>174829204
Awesome.
Thanks senpai

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>>174829837
KNOCK KNOCK

>>174829265
so that's what that lewd picture was based off of

>>174830779
>that lewd
imgur link?

>>174825995
>>174827006
I remember playing Sonic Time Twisted demos long time ago, they looked beautiful and nothing like the final product.
You can check them here.
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Time_Twisted

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Anyone play the recent prototype yet? How's the camera feel? Is it easy to get Sonic up to speed on that Hot Wheels track?

>>174830934
Awesome pic
>Sanic smirking as they prepare to cook lunch using the roasting corpse of Eggman or Shadow or *insert most-hated character here*

>>174831172
>that Rouge fanart
Anyone got the image? I seem to not have it

>>174831172
>tfw can't play demo as have a toaster
hopefully gonna get a nice shinny new pc soon.
Any chance the demo can get a low-quality setting or something?

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>>174831172
>that wood texture
please fix it. it's triggering me as an artist. the blaze pic has the top and bottom correct but not the sides.

>When video game icon Sonic The Hedgehog debuted on the SEGA Genesis in 1991, he shook up the action-platform genre with his signature speed and rebellious attitude. More than 44 million units later, Sonic celebrates his 15th anniversary and blazes his way onto the next generation consoles for an epic adventure designed to deliver the most intense sensation of speed experienced to date. The game is set in So Leanna, the beautiful city of water. In his first adventure set in the human world, Sonic meets a beautiful princess named Elise, whom he quickly befriends; but Princess Elise is abducted by none other than the calculating Dr. Egg man who is working under dark and sinister motives to destroy this special kingdom of hers. In order to restore safety and serenity, Sonic must maneuver his way through a series of adventures and challenges where he will encounter and interact with a bevy of allies and enemies, and ultimately go head to head against the menacing doctor to thwart his malicious plans. Along the way, Sonic encounters a mysterious character named Silver. Blocking him with unique supernatural powers, even the Blue dude with 'tude will find it difficult to out-maneuver the enigmatic Silver! As Sonic speeds through the huge kingdom, the mysteries unravel. Sonic The Hedgehog melds top-tier animation production values with next generation art, physics and game design to create the most intense, high velocity Sonic adventure yet! Featuring interactive 3D environments, a large cast of new and returning characters, and a blistering sense of speed, get ready for the reinvention of Sonic The Hedgehog!

>>174831000
artist is senshion. go to e621

>>174831741
The program already has a settings page the boots up when you open it. Just play the game at a tiny resolution and you should get a decent framerate out of it at the expense of it looking like Sonic Jam.

>>174831741
The artist who made the models will likely be able to properly UV map the frames. It shouldn't be a problem for too much longer.

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>>174831172
>Korps! shit
Fucking disgusting.

>>174832131
Hi Korps, how's it going

>>174828014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn-XlVTnyE

Can't help but feel bad for Sonic in this scene.

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>>174832173
>you hate that artist that means you are that artist!
That makes no sense...

>>174832131
Meh, I like Korps stuff

>>174832029
lel
Thanks

>>174832131
what's wrong with korps ?

>>174832131
Wait, what's wrong with korps?

>>174830247
So that's what Cream would look like if her ears were pointed the correct way. Kinda cute.

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>>174832131

>>174832352
Many of our drawfags hate themselves.

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So, how fast should a fully-charged Spin Dash be? Should it take Sonic up to max speed? Should it be slightly under the Peel Out threshold? Slightly over?
What do you think?

>>174833181
It should be like the one in Sonic Adventure, not Adventure 2.

>>174830934
is this a 3D render or a painting? I honestly can't tell

>>174833328
I second this. Adventure's spin dash was perfect, I loved using the momentum to find shortcuts.

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How different would things have gone if they just used Mighty instead of Knuckles for Sonic 3

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>>174833462
Painting

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>>174832652
>>174832815
He is Hotred 2.0.

>>174833649
So Mighty is somehow the guardian of the Master Emerald.

>>174833738

Nah. Let's have him just come back sick of Sonic's showboating and try to one up him to find the treasure first.

>>174827292
Is the gameplay hood at least? It isn't like I'm playing Sonic for the story

>>174833708
That's not really saying much.

>>174825995
>you kill him by tearing his face off and then bursting through his torso
wait what?!

>>174833953
It's decent.

>>174833708
>he's (artist name) 2.0
>he's another (artist name)

explain this to me. why is this a problem when it comes to lewds?

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Animation is a harsh mistress.

>>174834105
As Super Sonic, you slam into his face, ripping it up, and then fly through his chest, destroying him and sending body parts flying everywhere.

>>174834253
Perfect. Keep it like that.

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>>174833181
>>174833328
>>174833558
Let's make this easy:

http://www.strawpoll.me/12813108

>>174833708
Who?

>>174834253
Makes for a dance animation I guess.

>>174834253
lel
Could always render and submit to Dumb Running Sonic

>>174834109
Cool

>>174788260
>>174788284
We can continue to talk about the comics even if they get canned. We don't JUST have to talk about new stuff.

>>174809338
lewd

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>>174834253
I'd be lying if I said that I haven't seen this before. Trying to work with ripped models and rigs can be a challenge, to say the least.

>>174834253
keep a copy of that somewhere. it would be a good joke unlockable

>>174834543
It should be fine. I've barely touched the graph editor. But 3D animation's pretty time consuming when you're rusty.

>>174834498
>We can continue to talk about the comics even if they get canned. We don't JUST have to talk about new stuff.
No, fuck that, The comics are ded and there's no point in talking about something that will never change. What good is speculating on shit that will never happen? It's as sad as those fucks in the megaman general theorizing on what could of happened in Megaman Legends 3 or how the classic series transitioned into the x series and so on into the ZX series, It's easier to move on when you're not constantly stuck in the past.

>>174834790
>What good is speculating on shit that will never happen?
I don't know, people seem to love shipping.

>>174833953
Physics are luckily very very accurate (unlike Before/After The Sequel). However the level design is like 20 times worse.

>>174834498
At some point, the interest takes a dive without something new adding to the conversation. Old stuff just won't work forever. After Forces, there's a good chance there will be absolutely nothing new to talk about for quite awhile, especially if SEGA really is gonna not rush games out the door now.

>>174835015
We can try doing more in-community stuff here.

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>>174831758
It's not impossible to get wood like that IRL, although I think it would look better as painted wood as opposed to bare wood. On that note, the inside area was supposed to be a matte, separate in colour from the frame. Whoops. Fixed it here.

>>174834342
I'l be closing the poll at the half hour mark. Feel free to jump in, folks. The power behind the Spin Dash will dictate how level design will be handled moving forward, so this is a REALLY important decision. I'd like to have as many participants in this particular poll as possible.

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>>174834046
>>174834179
Both are major assholes and attentionwhores who only come to /sthg/ to boost their follower count.
Hotred for his paid stream and patreon and he was suspected to be behind the great drawfag purge. /sthg/ discussed his scams and overall behaviour right before the mass report of drawfags happened.

Korps is on a good way to be just like him. If not, then he will most likely switch his Sonic style for Sonic heads on anime bodys just like MTD, who started off as a Sonic style fanartist too.

>>174835228
those are some sweet images for the frames anon.
Good jurb.

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>>174828014

>>174835374
You sound like a moron.

>>174835374
If they weren't attention whores, they probably wouldn't be drawfags. That's the whole reason I do it, at least.

>>174834935
I remember those, the games were made by Spark Jester's creator right? Well, if physics are bett-
>level design 20 times worse
... well, worth a shot while I wait for Mania and Freedom Planet 2

>>174835374
>who only come to /sthg/ to boost their follower count.
Well fucking duh.

>>174819467

If there is ever another Sonic fighter, more than likely it would be Sega-All Stars with a modified VF engine.

>>174833065
I kind of like Korps's stuff

>>174827458
This looks like the nerdy kid defending his fan art that the bully called "gay"

>>174835569
I think the level design is a bit coherent in mostly they are sort of mazelike. In which one has to flow thru the levels in sort of paths that the game offers you.
Speedrunners like SuccinctandPunchy and others seem to go thru them pretty quick making the game complete-able under 2 hours. Much longer then Freedom Planet which can be completed under 50 Mins.

>>174835374
>major assholes
So are most people that browse this place.
>attentionwhores
Could say the same about drawfags in general to some degree.

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>>174827458
That was a fun stream

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>>174832131
>>174832352
>>174832652
>>174832815
>>174833065
>>174833105
>>174833708
>>174834046
>>174835374
>>174835528
>>174835537
>>174835710
>>174835908

Jeez. Fellas. I'm sorry that I used this guy's work as an example texture for a picture frame. I didn't mean to start a shitstorm.

>>174835374
From what I remember, all he ever did was ask for requests and do them. Repeat like five times and then died since the beginning of the year.

Did he hurt you personally or something?

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>>174835374
>artists desire attention

>>174836313
>I didn't mean to start a shitstorm.
It's what we do best.

>>174836085
>Hesse
>woop
>woop
>woop!
kek

>>174836313
Leave it in, literally only one anon is having a shit fit for whatever reason.

>>174836313
It's just one autist. Don't pay it any mind.

>>174836313
What? I don't mind it, I was just wondering why that one anon always flips out. This is hardly shitstorm worthy.

>>174835993
Nice. Gonna try it later

>>174836085
Three of these people have done official art for the comic.

>>174836313
I said I liked it though?

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Otp

10 minutes left on the poll, just as a reminder.

>>174836998
how do you accidentally steal something? Sounding like goten accidentally ascended to super saiyan

>>174837994
That's the joke.

We have a winner! The Spin Dash will be powerful, but not overly-so. It will get the player well up to speed, but not so powerful that you are able to reach full "Limit?" speeds. Cool. I'll make the necessary adjustments!

So the comics are dead now right? 100 percent fucking dead and people finally have a straight answer now right?

No more false hope?

>>174838779
No. Maybe. Possibly.

>>174818527
You are overestimating what you can do with only a billion dollars.

>>174838779
More like 90% dead

>>174838779
well ya never really know, but when we know, you'll know, ya know?

>>174815736
I'd get a decent Sonic the Hedgehog action figure line going, all in 6-inch scale and with sturdy but versatile joints, not to mention multiple accessories.
I'd make sure we make every character we possibly could, until either the money runs out or we run out of characters.
Whichever comes first.

>>174838779

Ask again in another five days.

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>Tfw we will never get a good sonic anime

>The world has been 99% dominated by Eggman who obtained a new power… Now Sonic and his allies confront the crisis as the resistance! Stop Eggman’s rule with supersonic high-speed action!

>And a powerful helper from another time – ‘another Sonic’! How and why did he come to this world?

>In addition to two Sonic and two styles, there will be another new style! Master the 3 styles to frustrate Eggman’s ambitions and take back the world!

>Q: When and how did the planning of Sonic Forces start?
>A: Whie the American team was developing games based on the ‘Sonic Boom’ TV show, we, as the Japanese Sonic Team, wanted to provide an evolved version of the standard Modern Sonic game, hence the planning started. It was right after the development of ‘Sonic Lost World’ finished, so about 3 years ago.

>Q: What is the origin of the title name?
>A: The word ‘force’ has strong meanings, such as ‘power’ and ‘army’. Just like this word, two massive powers, Sonic and his allies against the Eggman army, will collide with each other. In order to represent this worldview, we decided on ‘Forces’.

>Q: What can you tell us about the world in which Sonic and his friends will stand up against Eggman?
>A: Stories of past Sonic games had this format: Eggman plans something evil in a peaceful world, and Sonic’s side fights him off. This time the concept is different; Eggman has already taken over most of the world, so Sonic’s side is a minority and has to fight against much a stronger power as the resistance.

>Q: So they will be releasing the world piece by piece from Eggman’s hands?
>A: I cannot say much about the story yet, but since we did not have any titles where Sonic is involved in a serious story similar to ‘Sonic Adventure’ recently, this time we made the story also enjoyable while playing the game.

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>>174835537
>>174835710
Hold on a fucking second, I don't drawfag here because I demand attention like a toddler, I drawfag because I like drawing Sonic characters doing shit and this is the only place I can share them without vitriol. You're severely undermining my contributions by making blanket statements like that.

>>174839724
All we need.
>drawn animated Sonic characters
>cool adventures
>no humans

Is that so hard? Sonic X almost had it right with their pilot concept.

>>174840221
>no humans
Humans aren't a problem.

>>174840134
>Q: What was the intention of the surprise appearance of Classic Sonic?
>A: Modern Sonic and Classic Sonic co-starred for the first time in ‘Sonic Generations’, but this impossible coexistence occurred due to the festive concept of Sonic’s 20th anniversary. This year is not an anniversary year, but we added Classic Sonic as a playable character because we wanted to let him join the resistance team of Sonic and his friends who are going to fight against a powerful enemy. How and why he came to this world… I cannot tell you yet.

>Q: Will there be any difference between Modern and Classic Sonic’s gameplay styles?
>A: Yes. As a Sonic Team product after a long time, we wanted to provide users with at least these two gameplay styles: 3D Sonic’s high-speed boost action, and 2D Sonic’s classic gameplay. We are co-starring these two to respond to long-time fans’ feelings, so I think we can meet their expectations with these gameplay styles.

>Q: There is also the third style; what will it be?
>A: Sonic Forces has 3 gameplay styles, and Modern Sonic has 3D high-speed action with boost, while Classic Sonic has the 2D type. Each style has its optimal stages that makes their action fully enjoyable. Some fans were speculating that ‘since there are Classic and Modern, the third character will be Boom Sonic’, but that is wrong *laughs*. It’s most likely a character no one can imagine. I would just say that this third character will become the key of the story, and is also the one who represents the general characteristics of the game.

>2017
>still no Sonic & awesome Possum crossover
It will never come, will it?

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>>174840331
>We are co-starring these two to respond to long-time fans’ feelings,

Then what the fuck is the point of Sonic Mania?

>>174840331
>Some fans were speculating that ‘since there are Classic and Modern, the third character will be Boom Sonic’, but that is wrong *laughs*.
>Literally laughing at Boom fans
BTFO

>>174840671
I think they were just laughing at the fact that people thought Boom was gonna be in Forces. And as someone who likes Boom, people were fucking stupid to think that was ever gonna happen.

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>>174840331
>The new game engine provides beautiful and unique footage

>Q: The revealed gameplay footage showed a rather severe worldview, such as a city on fire; will the whole game have a serious tone?
>A: As a mainstream Sonic game, our policy is to make the story thick in order to differentiate it from Sonic Boom’s comedic tone. This time we showed the burning city to introduce the game’s image directly, but there will also be brighter stages.

>Q: The footage had huge Death Egg robots, making it look like a massive army.
>A: Eggman had thousands of minion robots until now too, but with this time’s concept of fighting against Eggman’s huge army, we made the robots’ design more military-like while keeping the animal motives as always. Not only the huge Death Egg robot in the footage, but enemies in the stages also have military based design added to the traditional Eggman taste.

>Q: What is the design concept of the stages?
>A: There is no particular country set as concept, but the stages must match the Sonic series’ worldview. As a concept, we adopted the look from ‘Sonic Lost World’ and told the team to create a worldview that is not too realistic. It may look fairly realistic due to the high resolution, but if you look closely at the details, you’ll notice that the worldview is rather cartoonish. The silhouette of trees are simplified as needed, too.

>Q: What is the change from using the new game engine, the ‘Hedgehog Engine 2’?
>A: We created the first-gen Hedgehog Engine powered by ‘Global Illumination’ when we developed ‘Sonic Unleashed’. From then, we continued using it through the series with minor updates. What we announced as ‘Hedgehog Engine 2’ this time is not something we built up from scratch, but a stepped-up version powered with a new rendering engine to optimize it for next-gen hardwares such as PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch.

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>Q: The impression the footage gave is very different; it’s much more photo-realistic.
>A: The greatest difference is that in addition to Global Illumination, it has physically-based rendering which physically calculates actual light, enabling optimal lighting for each objects just by preparing values for light source, weather and so on, without the need of artists painting objects one by one. Sure, the stages in twilight have over-expressed color, but this engine reproduces the real existing lighting. Also, the fast-paced movement is necessary in Sonic series, so we don’t use a general purpose game engine, but the one specially designed with our longtime know-how for high-speed processing.

>Q: Is it time-consuming to create expressions unique to game characteristics with the general purpose engine?
>A: Yes. There is no other game that moves so fast like ‘Sonic’, you know. It is better to make the engine by ourselves than asking for it outside. There is a team formed exclusively for game engine development inside the Japanese Sonic Team.

>Q: How is the development going?
>A: Right now, the Japanese Sonic Team is working very hard every day. The development is going smoothly so that we can deliver it to you as scheduled. Please be assured.

>Q: Finally, please send a message to Sonic fans anticipating Sonic Forces.
>A: ‘Sonic Forces’ is being developed by the Japanese Sonic Team, and it is becoming something that is for sure enjoyable for everyone who enjoyed the previous 3D Sonic games. The development is proceeding smoothly that the game is already playable from start to end. Through the whole game, each of the three playstyles enables refreshing ‘Sonic-like’ gameplay and evolvement, with which I am sure to meet your expectation. Please look forward to it.

>>174840826
>As a concept, we adopted the look from ‘Sonic Lost World’ and told the team to create a worldview that is not too realistic. It may look fairly realistic due to the high resolution, but if you look closely at the details, you’ll notice that the worldview is rather cartoonish. The silhouette of trees are simplified as needed, too.
I think I'm going to vomit.

>>174840134
>>174840331
>>174840826
They sure do like the word "worldview".

>>174840164
You should probably not take it too personally if it doesn't apply to you.

>>174841008
Don't worry, anon. It just means that Sega is going to hybridize both the realistic style of Colors and Generations with the more cartoony style of Lost World, such as the trees in the background.

>>174840164
You want to share them because you want people to see them, though.
I mean. You can draw sonic by yourself, look at it yourself and show NOBODY.

You want people to see your art. You want people to say "I like this". You would literally not post your art anywhere if you didn't want attention. Wanting attention isn't a negative trait as long as you're not obnoxious about it.

>>174840268
Name me one human in Sonic X that had a good personality and wasn't on the muh feelings route.

Human's may not be a problem but I don't want Sonic X tier inclusion happening again, so it'd be best to not include any of 'em except for Eggman and maybe if anyone wants, Snivy.

>>174841068
If people keep saying drawfags are merely attention whores with a pleasant aftertaste, that's all people are going to expect after a while even if it doesn't apply to me.

>>174841043
That's just another work for "look" or "feel". Japanese tends to have single words mean multiple similar things, such as 'kokoro' or 'ki'.

>>174841162
Please stop using western furfaggtry as a basis for how humans shouldn't be in the Sonic series. They should be like how Archie had it in the reboot. Humans and animals living side-by-side.

>>174839724
Unpopular opinion here, but I don't think anime fits Sonic. Anime is about detailed imagery but little movement (usually). Sonic is all about movement and action.

The Sonic CD animated intro was great along with the OVA but those were short, especially compared to a typical anime. The cost of producing an anime with that quality of animation would be astronomical.

Look at what we got with Sonic X. There couldn't have been much of a budget for it and it shows. Sonic barely moves. He's constantly off model, as is everyone else. The backgrounds are bland. Everything just looks and feels bad (except for the episodes with Super Sonic, but again, I'm sure the budget wasn't there for having the whole show animated like that).

I could be wrong but I feel like if we did get another Sonic anime anytime, it would be another Sonic X. Maybe not as bad in terms of characters and plots but probably as bad in terms of animation and quality. Sega just doesn't have the budget to pay for something like what we want.

I'd rather just have another Western cartoon with anime aspects. Anime-like expressions and character designs, careful attention to music and ambience, highly detailed backgrounds, etc. Combined with fluid Western animation and humor, I think it would end up being good. Probably not as good as "/sthg/'s perfect fantasy Sonic anime" but it would probably the best we could feasibly get with Sega's current financial status and Sonic's popularity

>>174841507
See, I'd agree with this, but the thing is, there ARE studios that can tackle something like Sonic. It's just a matter of being able to get htem to do it. I think Studio Bones or Studio Madhouse could take a Sonic anime and make it look so good it makes the OVA look like Underground

>>174841216
If anything it'd just be a vocal minority, and even then, so what?

>>174837994
Force of habit

>>174840221
Also no PonGraff level horse shit that the Sonic Boom and Dimensions turned up to 11

>>174841359
I thought Sonic X was made by Japanese producers.
Or were the Japanese version humans miles better than the English representation?

>>174842017
japanese sonic x is just better period.

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can any one give me a mod that increase sonics boost in generations?

>>174842387
>increasing Sonic's boost in a game where you nearly never run out of boost

>>174840994
>>Q: The impression the footage gave is very different; it’s much more photo-realistic.
Bullshit. Unleashed looked better.

>>174819260
did the series end?

>>174835374
Niggas gotta eat you fadger

>>174841507
The problem with that is is the assumption that all anime is like that.
I'd argue there's plenty of anime that has lots of movement and action.

Just like there's plenty of western cartoons that are incredibly stiff and bland.

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>>174842909
Then why not get a real job?

>>174809772
The camera angle needs to be higher so we can see a little farther ahead. Good shit though.

>>174842745
He's saying compared to Lost World.

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>>174835374
>behind the great drawfag purge

im new here whats a drawfag and why was it purged?

>>174840235
Sonic, Knuckles, idk Silver?
>>174840398
Amy, Rouge, Sticks?
>>174840561
Big, Blaze, Cream

>>174843283
False. He's saying in comparison to the first Hedgehog Engine (Unleashed and Generations), the second one might look a lot more photo-realistic to some people, but it's just the lighting.

>>174842580
i meant the speed of his boost sorry.

>>174843361
A drawfag is a guy who draws for a certain board and/or general. Apparently, hotred pulled a Palpatine and decided they should be purged from the general, possibly to draw more attention to himself.

>>174842145
it's still amazingly shit animation where sonic is off model 90% of the time he appears. The plots are still garbage. There are still pacing issues. Chris is still obnoxious and completely unnecessary. The only thing Japanese Sonic X does better is music and voice acting.

>>174843612
>hotred pulled a Palpatine and decided they should be purged from the general, possibly to draw more attention to himself.
I don't remember this happening and I've been here for 4 and a half years. Are you sure they didn't all just leave because people are generally cunts to drawfags?

>>174843575
Overpowered sonic