/tosg/ - Tree of Savior General

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1st for cute traps.

>>174729746
>https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/207018
>and.. to make neets 'futureproof', if some need 2 in the future

That would require synergy between classes/skills to be something IMC remembered and not fallen to the wayside like server vs server gvg, lodge customization, and treasure chests.

Has PD 2 been nerfed?

>>174730282
True.. but neets should be accurate

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>>174730120
when will kim let us use female outfits on male characters?

>>174730461
Never. Chinks hate fags and whiteys

>>174730301
In ktest clerics aren't allowed to do damage anymore unless they are monks.

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>>174730461
Because it's already possible to be a cute cleric girl (male) in the game.

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>I'll just go farm those recipies
>1 hour later
FUCK OFF KIM

also how do I get rid of dat poison in the poison room?

>>174730818
Black Colifly Mages can give you a buff, rarely, when killed.

Just walk in the poison room with it.

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>>174730461
when will kim let us use alternate skin or outfit colors?

honest question here,
how many of you would jump games if someone made an unique and actually good RO clone?
What about if someone made a GOOD Tree of Savior?

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Uhmmm, where are all the cute clerics(males)?

>>174730818
You can cheat by using Scout Cloaking/Cleric fade before entering the room, it stops the poison from applying to you and you can do the puzzle as long as you have the buff. Once it runs out you have to run out, buff again, and run back in to interact again though.

Should I gem in yellow or red gems into my virtov set? I'm full int and lacking in health so I'm tempted to gem in health but I fear I then won't have enough defense to get 1's.

>>174732014
I'd play RO with ToS classes.

>>174732014
>how many of you would jump games if someone made an unique and actually good RO clone?
Nope

>What about if someone made a GOOD Tree of Savior?
Maybe

>>174732014
People don't actually like RO, they like their shitty private servers with x1000 drop rates and 24/7 WoE that die in a month and those people keep trying to force that private server design onto this game.

>>174732097

yellows, you don't need hp if you're taking 1s

>>174732212
True, but I'm full INT and walking around with 10k health. I feel vulnerable as fuck.

>>174732097
I got 2 Virtov Pants/Tops at my full INT wiz atm. Yellows do better overall atm.
(but i also have HP+Dmg Hats. and use squire camp for 'harder' stuff)

>>174732014
Now that Silute is back on SA and the server is finally stable and we'll get a good rework of classes and combat system, I'd say the game will finally be perfect in a few months.

>>174732356

Have you levelled up the plate attribute and are you using a shield? I only had 50 con and I still had nearly 20k on my warlock around 315ish using rhevsians

>>174732595
>shield
>rhevsians
are you a tank?

>>174732654

No I just enjoy not getting fucked in the ass by r8 monsters.

>>174732595
>>174732654
>>174732823
Speaking of gearing up, which do you think is better for a PD2: Skull Smasher or Heart of Glory? Also do you reckon anyone would trade a Skull Smasher recipe for a Heart of Glory?

they killed the pleague doctor dps build?

>>174733019
Right now Skull Smasher is, post update the Heart is better. I doubt anyone would trade SS for Heart atm.

Can a corsair C3 shinobi be a thing?

>>174733019

unless you already have one of the recipes I highly suggest not making an orange weapon for now, ktest is too liable to fuck you in the ass.

>>174733213
Unless they add Hexen Dropper to the list of skills that clones can use, no.

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on ktest
>Wiz1> ? > ? > Thaum3 > WL2

>>174732014
I'd jump on both occasions.
They're not going to happen though.
>>174732195
I hate private servers just because of the extra amount of shit they add, I can never understand how someone goes
"yes, this is what the grindan game needs"

>>174732014
>jump games if someone made an unique and actually good RO clone?
If you mean Diablo 2 where I could play as kawaii anime shoujos and smash cute blobs and humanoid monsters, then yes. If you mean anything else, then no.

>What about if someone made a GOOD Tree of Savior?
I don't even know what a good Tree of Savior would even be anymore. If they kept the class system and world idea but made more towns, less but larger fields, and made it more sandboxy and somehow upped the exploration and killing random things in a field aspects I'd play it. It'd be nearly a completely different game though.

This game is fine if they would just add something to fucking do. You can't even grind random mobs because you're wasting time not running instances and being max level in a week and there aren't that many mobs around anyway and all that's besides that is dailies, which keep getting made more and more brainless because no one wants to actually botehr pending time playing the game at all.

>>174729808
QS >>> Ranger

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>buy animus
>go farm white chains
>realize I farmed on the wrong character
>can't trade recipe or the chains to one person
fuck

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>>174733924
>buy animus

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>>174734075
it was 900k, wat? I wanted it for future rebalance hp regen memes.

>>174734075
>Implying full con animus builds aren't going to be a thing again

Look at how much fucking HP regen con gives now.

>>174733924
Why can't you trade the chains or recipe?

>>174733924
White chains are tradeable now.

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>>174734329
>>174734367
thank you, I didn't know

>>174732014
A good RO clone wouldn't be a RO clone to begin with.
And to make a good TOS the first step is to fucking abandon this terrible game engine and either use of the standard game engines everybody uses like UE4. I dare say you could make something better even using Unity, but those dumb korean devs are too fucking dumb to try a project outside their comfort zone (which they left a decade behind).

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>>174734225
>again

>>174732014
>RO
no
>GOOD Tree of Savior
what does this mean? If its the exact same graphical assets but with everything fixed, added content, and more cute things, then yes, in a heartbeat

>>174734472
>MMOs
>on unity
>or fucking UE4
never post again
NEVER

>>174735169
Post a better engine retard

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>>174734472
>A good RO clone wouldn't be a RO clone to begin with.
???

>>174733289
what should we do with our old sw-barb-cor-nobis?

>>174735334
Sometimes the answer you seek is already inside you, anon.

>>174735248
>>use unity
>have to rewrite the whole engine, including especially the networking protocol
>C#, aka "your project is decompiled 3 minutes in by someone random and every nook and cranny vulnerability is revealed in seconds"
>>use unreal
>unrealserv performance and instability, issues up the ass, NA tera 2.0, server limits and inefficient handling of UDP
There's a really good reason why most MMO developers use their own engines, even if they're complete and utter shit.
N E T W O R K I N G

>>174735248
You don't use a cookie cutter pleb engine to make an MMO dumbass. Unity and UE4 are already aids when making singleplayer or co-op games, and you want an MMO on it? Never post in a vidya thread again, you're corrupting the youth

>>174736201
>N E T W O R K I N G
EVERY FUCKING TIME I WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING TO MY ROUTER FIVE OTHER THINGS BREAK, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO STOP GRINDING TO ENJOY A LITTLE RISK OF RAIN
FUCK

>>174736201
>say a generic engine would've been better than the in-house shit they use
>lol no they must use an in-house because networking
Yeah, their netcode really proved you right.

Just getting back into the game. I have an elememe<warlock. I understand they aren't that good anymore. I hear there's a rank reset getting released soon. How is cryomancer? I want that cute costume.

I also have a swordsman3. What can a swordsman3 go into?

>>174736459
Sword 3 cata 3 goon 2 is a good PvP build that is usable in PvE as well for supporting other melee. Elementalist locks are not that bad except compared to Pyros which are ludicrously overpowered atm. Cryomancer is ok but people have been starting to favor Linker, although linker got nerfed and I think balance is shifting toward Cryo again.

>>174736785
Sorry, i meant rune caster. That is the cute costume I want.

Also, I dont really have any interesting in PvP. Anything else?

>tfw character is so fun that you don't mind farming some kill counts while questing

>>174736452
Netcode from a player perspective =/= netcode efficiency.
For example, the average bandwidth usage per player for most MMOs is about 1 kB/s, while an Unreal Engine match will go up to 120kB/s or higher.
Also the engine that Tree of Savior uses is actually pretty good, it was one of the earlier MMO engines to actually grasp multithreading and multicore usage (was sponsored by AMD in korea!), and despite it not being enabled in Tree of Savior for some reason, it was already found to be still sitting inactive in the engine.
The issue here is that they're putting newbie developers with no previous experience on the engine itself to work with no documentation or no handholding on what to do.

Thauma buffs going stat % as well??

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Uhmmmmmmmm...

>>174737619
>He settled for +5 and 9* gems

>>174737619
*deals 1 damage to missile hole*

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>>174737619
DINA
BEE
FARM
LMFAO
DUDE
HOW
DOES
IT
WORK

>>174737276
INT and SPR scaling

>>174737867
Say that to my 1200% butt stroke.

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>>174738240
>>174737276

>>174737619

this guys is the ultimate autist

>>174738402
I'm asking about KR test version, how much do you get from your thauma buffs?

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>>174738526
>>174738402
without thaum skills

>>174738402
>>174738612
Holy shit.

>>174738402
>with thaum skills: 53 FPS
>>174738612
>without thaum skills: 82 FPS
never letting a thaum into the party

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>>174739236
true
and you'll look... weird

>>174739530
Girl, you're so hot you don't even need thaumaturge magic to swell my dick.

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I asked this earlier, but here's a follow up: I have the Grynas here. Reason I made Virtov was the health bonus. Full INT characters tend to have very little health. Should I slap Red Gems or Yellow Gems into the Virtov while considering that I still have the Grynas to fall back onto in-case I can't get the damage to 1's right now? I do use a shield, but it's just a Didel Tower one right now.

tl;dr - considering I got this grynas, should I put red gems into this virtov instead?

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>EQ15 meme is alive
this in only Lv5 with Lv30 Attri

and it did double hit back then? i forgot how

>>174740221
>and it did double hit back then? i forgot how
Cast lethargy on the enemy and it'll hit double.

>>174740221
Test it again with this:
https://tos.neet.tv/items/142105

>>174740775
the tiny m.att should be way less dmg

i will try EQ15 maxAttri another day. no resets atm

>>174740221
Thats only high because its a low lvl monster and the log variable is high

>>174740047

yellow on virtov.

4x yellow gem + aspersion = 1 damage from almost any mob up to 300

>>174741603
this

>>174741791
what about 2x yellow and 2x red?

pour one out for wiz1pyro1linker2chrono3, the smartest build ingame

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100.000 EQ, not even maxed

EQ15 meta soon

>>174741603
yes ofc

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>>174742009
Hell yeah my african american sibling

build will be mega trash in the new patch

Thinking about starting this game. What's the most popular class and what's the most popular r7 of that class?

>>174742390
currently Wiz1,Pyro2,Link2,Thaum2

>>174742390
C2>P2>Monk3

Is it worth awakening armor yet at all?

>>174743735
You can get HP or HP rec on it.

>>174743735
barely
>>174743898
and property dmg (not rly high rolls)
but you can and will also get a lot of bad/weak stats

>>174744623
I thought you could only get property damage on weapons and sub weapons while armor got prop resistances.

>>174744960
I'm not sure there's any limit, just weights.

>>174744623
There's a tendency to either def/mdef/elem def, hp, or recovery for armor though. But you have a few durability to kill with armor anyway.

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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?

>>174745643
Will Murbish notice me if I start playing Wugushi?

started playing this game again

I have a Wiz3 Ele2, is warlock viable?
do i have to skill reset? I have freezing sphere and full lethargy

Can anyone recommend a warlock build? is that good? http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/wko0ggi14p/

>>174747302
Sorry anon, but that rabbit is already carrying my child.

Is the spawn rate somehow longer in time than it was before? I remember not waiting more than 5 or 10 minutes for Cafrisun when I was playing a while ago, somehow now it's taking way longer. Did they decide to "combat botting" once again?

>>174747670
Looks alright.

>>174747568
see >>174747670

Elem is not best meta anymore but can be 'ok' with good gear

>>174748559
Should I just make a new wiz?
This one is like 2 levels til c3

>>174748936
Maybe, yea. Leveling is fast now.

>>174749190

If I wanna make moeny, which one should I go?

>>174749459
>>174742456
>>174742390

>>174734203
900k? Damn it's good to play on slut server, i bought one for 200k yesterday.

a good doppel build?

>>174749743
Klai is obsessed with "efficiency" and players basically only farm raw silver; it is difficult to actually buy items.

>>174749879
?

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>Sorcs
uhmmm

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>>174750162
Wh-what's going on there?

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alive chore!

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>>174750289
I dont know.. i left instantly.. i dont want to know!

>>174750568
Too late, you're pregnant.

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>>174750623
I dont think it works like that.. nothing touched me.

What is in those new HG cubes besides the new 315 weapons? I doubt you get a 315 every time so what's the booby prize?

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>>174751061
cube drop rate is low

>get Blue Armor cube
meeh

>get Blue Weapon cube
meeh

>get Purple Armor cube
>has minimum sockets
meeh

>get Purple Weapon cube
>has minimum sockets
meeh

>get Purple ___ cube
>has good sockets
>is trash item nobody wants
meeh

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>>174742009
FCBC

>>174750112
Ye i didn't understand him either

>>174751980
>80 essence for an offhand
hahah and you people still play this shit

>>174751980
>Lolo/miki weapons cost same as a Pract or two in reroll costs
>Pract weapons require 2 pract, your firstborn son in r8 mob matts, and sacrifices to Satan to get the recipe
>People would still rather make the orange Pract weapons

Somebody please explain this shit to me.

>>174752274
It's pretty easy to buy all the shit you need to craft your orange 315 off the market.
ET mats are untradable.

>>174752274
lolo weapons have shit stats
no one has time to run solmiki like a retarded autist everyday

>>174752517
How long does Solmiki 20-40 take? Never been in there but can't imagine the time commitment is much worse than leveling 2 char to near max, waiting a month to get pract you need, and then farming one matt per hour or two-tree matts a day if you buy them with bee money.

>>174752517
>shit stats
>literally better than orange 315s and anvil upgrades are over twice better

>>174752867

https://tos.neet.tv/items/254108
https://tos.neet.tv/items/254111

wat

>>174752991
I think he means on Ktest. 20f weapons except rapier are pretty pointless in our current version.

>>174752991
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/254108
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/254111

Lolo/miki aren't worth in iToS right now, except the rapier but that's because there is no orange rapier. Some of them will be better when the new patch arrives never.

>>174752867
Load roll Panther

Min. Level 270
Classes Warriors series , the wizard series , clergy Series
Stats

Magic Attack 1162
Greater Attack Rate 1
Magic Amplification 72
SP recovery 98
Additional land property damage 41
Potential 13
Durability 40
Sockets 0 / 2
Amulet Sockets 0 / 1
Enhancement

Level Magic Attack Price

10
+665


Heart of Glory

Min. Level 315
Classes Warriors series , the wizard series , clergy Series
Stats

Magic Attack 1206
Intellect 88
mental 13
Physical Defense 132
SP recovery 127
Potential 13
Durability 45
Sockets 0 / 3
Amulet Sockets 0 / 1
Enhancement

Level Magic Attack Price

10
+618

>>174753219
>ktest
>wands
next you're gonna say wugushi is a boss killer

most Lolo are shit and will stay shit. they are old content and outdated

>>174742009
>>174742202
>>174751960
this looks fun, is it fun?

>>174751980

RAPIER

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4oxowhisna/

is a good build? i want to be a pve god

>>174753797
Yes

Expect to pay 200+ USD in chinese silver selling sites at first though

Do I need more than one card on the Necromicon? What are my options?

>>174753797
It's average at best.

>>174754737
can you recommend a build?

>>174754854
Whatever makes you have the most fun

>>174754378
No. It doesn't really matter because IMC gave up working on it. Just get a gray golem card and stick it in, since it has one of the highest defenses.

>>174755337
Does it matter if it's lvl 1 or lvl 10?

>>174755521
10% more attack and def per star

>>174755639
Ohh, then I'll level one Golem then. Thanks!

>>174755883
Don't do it, its not worth the money

give me some cool builds before the event ends

>>174756258
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141899e7

>>174753585
its a support build, not a damage build. It can solo through rank6 content, rank7 and 8 questing will require friends and hand holding. Is very welcome in groups and grind parties

>>174742202
>>174751960
yerrrrrrrrp
>>174753585
you get in there and do your work
>>174756792
support part is true, but underestimating pyro1 is a deadly mistake

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squad

Still looking for info on what to do with my old barb-corsair shinobi?

>>174757867
Wait for the event and reroll it.

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I miss you, CuteNotLewd!

>>174759232
I miss them too

>>174759232
>>174759330
who got kicked now?

When you enhance maces and armor on ktest what happens exactly? Is the enhancement value that say a same rank rod would get split between the two stats, or is it the same bonus added to both stats and Maces just have significantly higher stat totals?

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>>174759232
When will the cute come back to CuteNotLewd?

Gonna ask again how can I salvage this?
Feeling like I fucked up with my first time playing.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133.254555.354765

19str/45con/2int/19spr/6dex

What should I do with my sword3? I was planning on going sword3>High>Corsair3 a year ago but I haven't played since I finished my PD1. I don't do any PvP and have no interest in it either cause I don't like mini games.

>>174759437
Sorry but all the cute is in cute

>>174759461
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133.254555.354765
Rode3Shinobi/Murm

Put all of the rest of your points into DEX and wait for the patch that lets us reset builds.

>>174759650
top kek, that certainly isnt the case.

>>174759650
The cute was in Futureproof all along. Almost all the real cuties are dead now.

>>174756631
Looks fun, I wonder if it's any good though.

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>>174759650
>>174759954

Holyshit. I just spent a week making a fencer. Rapiers are the gayest things in all of existence. Is there any way i can reskin the rapiers I use into... a less homosexual sword or am I cursed to kiss boys?

>>174760429
>she doesnt like rapiers

look at this fag without a sense of style. Reroll into a doppel you barbarian.

>>174760429
>male character
>fencer
You wanted to kiss boys from the start.

>>174760429
You can reskin it into other Rapiers.

>boy
kys faggot

What do I do at rank 8 with a corsair c3?

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Is this for real? Does anyone have a list of cards that are actually worth anything? I have a bunch, including like 20 Nuaele cards and a couple of Warewolf cards that I don't plan on using.

>>174760882
Maybe Shinobi depending on the rest of your build

>>174760919
Those Nuaeles are cheap. SEAmonkey server prices those at around 14m-20m

>>174760919
I don't know how many people actually buy Werewolves and I have no idea why people think they're worth so much. Nuaele cards are actually worth that much though yeah.

>>174761304
If that's true I'm going to become filthy rich

>>174760948
there's a corsair C3 shinobi in 2v2 TBL who plays pretty well.

>>174761490
You might want to consider not selling your cards they're super rare and inflation in this game is awful.

>>174761304

You can't farm werewolves cards anymore in game

>>174761304
Werewolf cards are build enablers for STR Archers so guessing they sell.

>>174761846
Don't they drop from the one at the end of Crystal Mine?

>>174761952

Yeah but at an abysmal drop rate

Is it true that all 0CD skills have been nerfed to 5 overheat?

>>174763025
I think they changed it back for Double Punch but for everything else I think so.

What weapon should I get to hold myself over from 220 to endgame as a Doppel?

I'm kinda new and there's nothing on the market to buy anymore as an upgrade. I heard the best thing is to get a 4slot hunting ground weapon but I can't find one. Are these reasonable to farm a ton of and roll until I get 4s or am I better off just doing something else?

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>>174760548
>>174760539
>>174760753
Okay. I understand now. Let me rephrase the question. What is the least homosexual rapier in the game? My girlfriend is moving in this this monday and I don't want her to see the abomination that is my character's weapon.

>>174763696
He probably does not mind any Rapier.

>>174763696
Get this one
https://tos.neet.tv/items/313102
It's the least faggy of the bunch
But you're literally playing a pencildick class

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trying to play this but it doesn't start
any help? (pic related)

>>174764460
just wait, it's working but that patcher won't show you any progress and it's slow too
It can take up to 20-30 minutes

>>174760753
not him, but I read you can only reskin weapons into others with the same number of stars. is that true?

>>174765306
Not sure if that is still the case.
But it costs 1 potential and you can lose (or gain) a little % of the base dmg.

>>174765213
oh ok thanks anon

>sword3
>sword2hop1
>sword2pelt1
>pelt1hop1
which one into
>cata3goon2
or
>cata3doppel1lancer

>>174764260
man, honestly, it didn't hit me till I hit r6 that I was playing pencil dickeroo. I kind of regret it.

>>174766095
sword3 cata3 doppel lancer. Lancer is really underestimated

>>174765938
if you keep posting this shit they will eventually fix that bug you know

>>174765715
>>174765938
What about weapon types? Can you reskin a one hand sword into two hand or something like that?

>>174766331
thanks, will do
need con/str or just pump everything into dex? just want to play comfy while going fast, not really building it for pvp

>>174766337

True.. I don't want alchemists to lose that ability.

>>174766449

No you can't

>>174766205
I feel you bro, I first wanted to make a badass duelist dude too and make a fencer but then I saw one of them ingame in combat and I was NOPEing out of that and just remade to something cooler

>>174766449
Nope. Only same type.
And not shields.

>>174766337
Maybe it is not a bug (soon). Items dont even show starts in ktest anymore.

>>174766498
Just dont post screenshots of bugged out weapon
That shit gets around much quicker than word of mouth
I'm too fucking paranoid because I want them to at least keep that bug in before the class reset event happens

>>174766541
stars*

>>174766541
shows me stars in ktest neet tv but maybe they want to get rid of that mechanic
You got any pics of that?

>>174766095
I'm personally doing Sword2Pelt1Cata3
I was considering Lancer but to make this work I'd have to go GoonLancer so I'll probably just go Goon2

>>174766484
dex. Until the rebalance, str is just shit after rank6 and not a good long term investment.

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>>174766723

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>tfw server rotting more each day

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>>174766943
Let me guess: you're from Klai. Right?

>>174766920
I remember you change into an alchemist
You tried briquetting on it?

>>174767136
Anything not named Silute or Telsiai is rotting

>>174767241
I didnt think about trying that.
Only reskin'd my Kupole Rod (neets says its 5star) with a 170 Rod, but these items we weird.

Maybe in a few days again.

>>174767269
Thanks to the successful operation on Silute re-allocation, we might see a green number on steam charts this time.

http://steamcharts.com/app/372000

When are you guys moving to one of the two populated servers?

>>174766943
>>174767136
>>174767592
>server war and samefaggoty
go back to bed C*lnigger

>they think they're server matters in the general

at least the rodent blogposts

>>174767676
Who is this celnigger and why does he shitpost so much
Is he salty about something Klaipedians did to him?

>>174767729
I dont know or care. But he needs to fuck off.

>>174767729
just don't give him atention, anon, thats the point of the "*"

>>174767873
I dont think the * does much
Honestly its obvious whoever it is is samefagging but it so pathetic that it seems like his mother got raped by Klaipedia or some shit
Possibly some discord drama?

So whens the mobile version?

>>174767729
the most autistic poster on Fedimian
>Is he salty about something Klaipedians did to him?
He is salty about something he and only him thinks the rodent did to him

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Oh, I'm really sorry for remembering you guys are playing in a ded server with overpriced shit in the market, Klaicucks. Hey, have you spent your daily free TP on megaphones already? You'll need them to beg for people to join your party for Solmiki.

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>>174768095
I see...
That's really a little amusing to be honest, thanks for giving me the rundown

priest2/bokor3/miko/plague2
or
priest2/diev3/miko/plague2
Also, should I lvl deprotected zone?

>>174767729
Before they added regional servers, he was constantly spamming the official forums and writing gigantic autistic essays demanding a European server. He flipped his shit if anyone posted IMC's population statistics while he was busy claiming Europe was the most populated region. Now Fedimian is a ghost town and he's having a breakdown, so he blames people for playing on the NA server.

>>174768174
>feditard calling others for playing on a dead server when numbers proved multiple already his server is the most dead one
pottery, even without the BRs NA is more populated than EU, it's sad desu

>>174768349
>priest
cleric I mean

>>174768341
Honestly the people who had to play with him started to thinks he was under meds too, guy is really autistic.
Shouldn't even give him this much attention now

>>174768364
Oh that makes more sense
The thing is europe is varied region, there is lots of crazies out there

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You know... It's funny, because we've been playing on our "dead" server for a long time now, but it's been two days since the Silute was reallocated and you're already losing your shit.

lmao, why don't you just chill?

nothing changed for me so far, queue times as fast usual at almost all level ranges

Stop samefagging C*lnigger

Does Bloodstealer actually drop from cardboard cube or is it just a weird thing people noticed in the files?

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Don't you guys get tired of pretending that picture related isn't happening to this game, on ALL servers?

>>174769515
Not in Telsiai and Silute, together they are the 95% of the iToS population

lol this guys like a dog being happy waggling his tail cuz he's getting some attention for once
my b for asking who he was

https://tos.neet.tv/items/222483

Where can I get my hands on this shield? I need it now.

What does everything think is a better option? I can't decide between:
Cleric2>Dievdirbys1>Paladin3>Monk1>Inquisitor1
or
Cleric2>Priest1>Paladin3>Monk1>Inquisitor1

It's essentially the difference between a 20% CDR statue, or a Ressurection.

>>174769829
priest1 because fucking monstrace giving you 30% more dex

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>>174769558
English servers aren't THAT dead, although it is fact they have much less people. BRs and Seamonkeys were the target audience for this game from the start(despite IMC fucking them over).

However, fact stands that player count is dropping across the board, and almost no new players come in. Pretty much everyone who tried out the game says it's shit and it's been exposed as a false prophet because everyone wanted 3D Ragnarok but got a 2D skinned modern MMO instead.

I know everyone is excited about this "Renewal" patch and everything, but please don't forget that IMC is working on multiple other games right now, including a mobile port of ToS that will replace the main game in very short order.

>>174769829
2nd one, monstrance also boosts your crit rate by a lot, you don't get ridiculous natural crit rate like archers do and res is nice.

>>174769952
>Mobile game will replace main game

Mobile is literally auto combat idle game it's not in the least bit comparable except that it will use assets. This game is a lot like RO in a lot of ways, the only problem is the dailies but to be frank everyone would have quit a long time ago without them because players are casuals and can't handle dailies not giving them structure and a clear progression path.

I forgot to ask this earlier, but how do I actually reskin weapons? I heard this is an alchemist function? I've never seen a stall for it though

>>174770274
You have to have a trusty Alchemist friend who you will trade your weapon too (if you have token) and he will do it for you for a fee or the material costs

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>>174770207
You've nailed both matters, you just haven't realized it yet. They'll turn it into a mobile game precisely so you can leave it in auto-play and not have to do dailies.

If that mobile port ever comes out, the PC version will be doomed.

>>174770207
>because players are casuals
>complains about daily chores

anon i'm not saying dailies are garbage but those people that autism grind those dailies are sure as shit not casuals in the slightest. The dailies are the only bit of content the game has.

>>174771190
ah shit i meant that the dailies are garbage.

>>174771190
>those people that autism grind those dailies are sure as shit not casuals in the slightest
>dailies
That's the definition of casual.

>>174771602
casuals dont grind saalus+290 on ten or more chars

>>174771602
No no I agree with the guy
Doing your dailies meticulously everyday like a maniac just to stay in game is definitely not casual

A casual is someone like me who barely plays 1 or 2 hours a day, never does fucking dailies, maybe once or twice a week and just keeps making alts for fun

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>see ktos art contest
>good art, class variety, no repetitive trash and actual professionalism on the winner picks
>see itos art contest
>miko miko miko miko XD

>>174774713

post some ktos art

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gesti is so sexy

How is this game? I forgot all about it. Do they add actual content to the game every now and then, or is it one of those games where they just add cash shop items every other month or so and do nothing?

>Other team has kinos
>Teammate either refuses to stop following you as if joined at the hip, or is nowhere to be found when you're raised alone and both opponents are just wailing on you, leaving him completely free to do something

>>174776213
>How is this game?
It's okay, actually pretty cute and not very pay2win. The class system is fun and really the only shining point about the game.

>Do they add actual content to the game every now and then
Korean ToS regularly was getting new content and changes, though the new content wasn't really anything that incredible as it was mostly new items and some buffs or changes to classes.

>or is it one of those games where they just add cash shop items every other month or so and do nothing?
This was and still is the current state of the international version of ToS. Though right now the game is currently going through some major changes on the korean test server. The game recently got the original director back as the main director so hopefully after all these changes to fix the balancing of the game we'll see some actual content made for the game. So i guess in short the game is currently pretty shit but changes are happening that have been giving the players a lot of hope for its future.

>>174776881
That sounds fair enough, hopefully good things happen. I love the aesthetic of this game. Maybe I'll check it out.

>>174777416
Well, It's great time to do that now. There is an event for new accounts with a bunch of exp tomes and dungeon resets.

Hey guys, i am making a QS3>Wugu3 because its fun to kill early bosses only using AA, but i dont know how viably this build is in end-game, the author of the build said that is pretty shitty.
My question is: If i use Didel Grand cross (+2 to skills QS) + 2 gem to boost Running & shooting my DPS will still be good for end game?

>>174778715
>but i dont know how viably this build is in end-game, the author of the build said that is pretty shitty.
On boss everythiny would outdps you and ypu would do fuck nothing in ET
You can solo farm and Saalus/290 comfy with it though
>My question is: If i use Didel Grand cross (+2 to skills QS) + 2 gem to boost Running & shooting my DPS will still be good for end game?
Your DPS would be better but still pretty shit in any party content

>>174778923
Well, at least its a easy class to level...
I will wait for the reset at july so i can change to a better DPS class.

I am leveling a C2>P3>Oracle>P.D.2 but i dint like (i am still at P.D.1 and cant "debuff" enemies), and a Sword3>Peltast>Corsair>Fencer3, but from what you said these two will do better than this QS, so i will focus more leveling then.

The problem with fencer is, rapier's prices is to high for new players, venier is 11kk+ in my server...

>>174779526
Fencer is garbage

>>174779603
I know inst "top tier" but is really garbage? the only DPS classes i know that is good for end-game is PyroLinkerCancer, DievMikoP.D and ArcherRangerFlecther crit.
I dont really like any of then, but i think i should do one of these to "farm" end-game.

>>174779603
>>174779718
Fencer is top-tier for boss dps.
Literally the best right now when properly used.

For AOE though... well you have a pencil.

>>174779718
Doppel is a great dps.

>>174779892
Fencers are only good if you can get a lolo rapier and once the rework hits they'll be dogshit.
I wouldn't invest in a Fencer right now.

>>174780259
Leather armor and green gems on an offhand waepon can still get you great crit rate. Just got to stack crit rate gear as a fencer now. You can probably reach 50% crit rate as fencer and that's still amazing damage. Not to mention all weapons are getting a boost in their base attacks including pencil sticks.

>>174780314
>You can probably reach 50% crit rate
Yes.

>that's still amazing damage
No it's really not.

>>174780314
Fencer needs 90%+ crit rate to be playable

>>174780314
The point is, if you do white damage on fencer you do no damage
They can boost the base stats of the rapiers but they will always do pencil damage and have to crit and right now Fencers after the changes won't crit often enough

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With the exception of ones that look like the original loading screens, like this, the Korean load screen arts are shittier than ours.

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>>174781415
>Korean load screen arts are shittier than ours
Yeah right

>>174781790
That's at least cute.

you guys are boring.

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>sunday
>thread on life support

Is corsair 1 viable? I just want flag and dust really. Unless Iron Hook + Keel Hauling is good?

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>sunday

>>174783846
Iron hook is god tier pvp

>>174783784
This thread has been on life support since the start

>>174783897
Sounds good. Any other good 1rank classes for Swordsman? We don't seem to have many.

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I don't have any reason to log in until balance changes
What i should do?

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>>174783784
>>174783861
who >waiting ktest balance patch here?

>tfw removing any itch to play by putting twitch and youtube streams

>>174786406
Playing that 1 hour/day for do few saalus counts?

>>174786667
>unironically falling for the play the game meme

>>174786324
log in for dailies

>>174786324
Amass silver so you're character is strong when new patches hit.

>>174786406
lose weight

Has this game gotten any better since release?
I played it on EU release and determined it was just a shitty grindfest with 0 originality.

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>mfw still need to level up 6 chap cards to 10

>>174787853
it's not a grindfest
It's a daily chore simulator saince nothing in the game matter but how many blessed shards and silver in your account you have
And EU is barely on life support

do the brown tini magicians in the 240 HG (netanmalek mausoleum) drop brown tini horn?

>>174787980
ok so not worth reinstalling
thx

I wish they removed the quests and filled the maps to the brim with monsters.

>>174786324
Farm me orange mats. I'll pay with shards.

let's organize open gvg like the old times

>>174787224
>losing mass

silly retard, i dont want to be lanky

>>174788995
stop eating shit fato it's time to get fit

>>174789039
im try but cardio kill my gains

>>174788770
I killed a CnL nigger with my car in 2016. Score one for the good guys.

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These daily chores are making me hate this game again. I was promised fun.

>>174789671
When I am crowned king by divine right, I will personally execute all CnL niggers in this general

>>174790425
Deus Vult CnL when?

>>174790470
soon, brother

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>make a new char
>reach that 317 level
>get that stupid box
>"what do I do now?"
"chores"

>fencer is rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQe9wAUGvWM
*crits you 450k*

>>174792171
>450k burst
>then literally tickles Mole to death
That's still dogshit.
Not to mention that he seems to have less than 50% critrate, so critting on prep'd AaF was very lucky.

>>174792368
>waaah waaah but it's not 50x 450,000 dmg waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i can't spam 200,000 0 CD +2 ablities anymore waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
pencildick users everyone

>>174792368
Nobody is bursting the mission bosses in seconds anymore from what I've seen so far and this fencer is probably undergeared since it's just a test server.

>>174792442
You're retarded.
Fencer used to be a low burst but constant dps class.
Now it's just a class relying on pure luck for crits.

>>174792507
An equally geared doppel killed it in 1 cyclone.
Mole is also leather.

>>174792606
No, you're retarded. The guy has 600ms ping and doesn't even know how to play Fencer properly and was able to kill the mole relatively fast.

With decent ping and in the hands of a good Fencer player, it's still a strong class.

>>174774713
Thank god that weebshit and the classes most commonly paired with it are getting a boot up their ass.

>>174792901
>The guy has 600ms ping
Why is this relevant?

>doesn't even know how to play Fencer
How so? He comboed abilities perfectly, at least in the beginning of the video.

>>174774713
Submit your own art?
Oh wait you can't because you're a lazy american sack of shit who can't produce anything of value and can only complain

>>174792171
>>174792442
Anons is it true?

That Doppel is all about class and grace in the battlefield?

While Fencer is all about becoming the personification of brute force?

that Doppel is about knowing your pace, taking only 2-3 enemies at a time

while Fencer is about taking them all at once

that Doppel is literally the virgil of this game, silent, cold and sophisticated

while Fencer is the dante, rushing head on into armageddon

that Doppel is muhammad ali, "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"

while Fencer is mike Tyson "I'm gonna fuck you till you love me faggot"

that Doppel is my chemical romance

while Fencer is poison

that Doppels are vampires

while Fencers are werewolves

that Doppel lifts for aesthetics

while Fencers lifts for strength

that Doppel is crossft

while Fencers are SS

Doppel is griffith

Fencers is Guts

Doppel is Hashirama

Fencer is madara

Doppel is bleach

Fencer is one piece

Doppel is vegeta

Fencer is goku

Doppel is the 2nd silent edgy motherfucker protagonist

Fencer is the main NAKAMA DATTEBAYO NEVER GIVE UP protagonist
is this true?

>>174793151
>Why is this relevant?
You've never played Fencer with bad ping, did you?

These guys playing on the ktest server are from Silute. He's not as bad as Bong TOS, but a good Fencer player can see he doesn't know how to chain his skills fast.

>>174793423
this copy paste is shit please stop spaming this forced meme.

>>174793543
>You've never played Fencer with bad ping, did you?
Ping is only relevant to Composee, which you CAN'T spam anymore anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14HAtgogFB0

Thaum 3 looks pretty decent.

>>174793623
Yes, its really strong. But they didnt nerf Mastema yet.

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>>174793423

>>174793619
>Ping is only relevant to Composee
Like I said, you've never played Fencer or any other class with bad ping.

>>174794647
>or any other class
That's the point, bad ping would hold back any class so it's not relevant at all.

>>174794818
Except that not every class is heavily affected by ping issues. But, you've never experienced bad ping before, so you wouldn't know that.

>>174793623
really wondering if they want to have a spr thauma build or if the bonus on swell head is just to make lifeline more attractive

>>174771190
>>174771676
Dailies were created solely for casuals and demanded by casuals. They were originally invented as a way to forcibly stop hardcore players from playing more and ensure that everyone would progress at a similar rate.

Saying dailies aren't casual is like saying a pink razor sold on shelves right between the conditioner and tampons is for men just because competitive swimmers discovered it gives the closest shave and they need it to minimize drag.

Blessed shards were originally untradable, which meant nobody could get ahead by doing it 10x a day. The people who demanded tradable shards were casuals who complained about how many years stage 10 would take and wanted to sell shards for silver instead of transcending.

Daily dungeons were demanded by casuals, who were asking for the limit to go up to 5 instead of 3. They claimed they couldn't be bothered to spend time grinding and forming grind parties so they needed more auto-queued instances.

Furthermore, alt raising is a casual activity. Focusing all your attention on a single character is by definition hardcore, while casuals like to try out different builds instead of min/maxing a single one. In conclusion, running saalus every day on 10 characters is the most purely casual activity imaginable in a video game. It's exactly what casuals always asked for and the opposite of what hardcores asked for.

>>174794818
Bad ping means nothing to classes that rely entirely on long cooldowns. It only matters to people who chain skills quickly or use autoattacks heavily.

>>174795142
>you've never experienced bad ping before, so you wouldn't know that.
Stop projecting retard.

>>174795172
full SPR is not doing a very huge difference
maybe its just random shit IMC does

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Ummm.... Kim?!

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When they will fix MOUSE mode, i hate keyboard and controller. We cant select a target and lock (the button for that is buggy), we cant select object's (quest's and teleport)...

>>174796228
Show your build, senpai, I want to be like you.

>>174795606
yeah thats what im figuring
you literally have pyro3>thaum3>ench with spells with spr, but with new better scaling of int it might not be a good idea

>>174779892

>fencer can't aoe
>preparation
>balestra
>hitcap 10 targets
>linker


wowowow

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>>174797560
>pyro3>thaum3>ench
that sounds not bad

>>174798027
I don't think prop damage from enchant lightning benefits from skill multipliers anymore.

>>174798136
It is a decent buff, but that >>174798027 build has barely dmg skills (and some have long cd)

I have 3h on a Rank Reset and not sure what (wiz) build to try now

>>174798263

kino 3 ele 3

>>174797571
>>linker

>>174798263
I just assumed I'd hellbreath most things to death since its no longer % based and ill have a TON of spare SP to burn. the fact it would tick both EL an EF every time too.

>>174798536
>hellbreath
is not bad, but does not do high numbers. and ofc some asshole mobs cancel it with range or skills